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steel2hola00:13
william_how would I set my user acc to sudo?00:13
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wirechiefnosrednaekim: the alsa sound script blows out for me at line 255, i wonder if i am missing something.00:16
wirechiefnosrednaekim: the alsa sound script blows out for me at line 255, i ver.0.4.43 alsa-info.sh00:17
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madHi i just installed kubuntu and it overwrote my MBR for windows is there any way to get the old MBR back or something? ( the windows MBR is on a fake-raid 5 disk )00:25
madOr boot from windows and fix it there? ( the MB can handle reading from the disk up until a OS takes over )00:25
piquadratHi! Does anyone here know if there's a specific reason to why Amarok is compiled without support vor MP4/AAC tag editing support?00:29
crimsunmp4/aac support requires support from universe; amarok is in main00:30
crimsuna main source package cannot build-depend on binary packages in universe or multiverse00:30
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* ubuntu_ 00:30
* ubuntu_ is betta00:31
ubuntu_betta than kubuntu00:31
piquadratcrimsun: so are there any options for me to get AAC support besides building amarok myself?00:31
wirechief!paste00:32
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crimsunpiquadrat: check the motumedia ppa and medibuntu?00:32
maduserah00:34
piquadratcrimsun: dang, I always forget adding medibuntu to my repository list after I install a new kubuntu release. Thanks :)00:35
mrmonkeymananyone know of a program like treesizepro that can be used in linux?00:35
trident523mrmonkeyman: what does treesizepro do?00:41
dwidmann_This configure script is crazy .... make is clearly in my path and it says it isn't :(00:41
mah_hi i cant browes with my kongueror any body can help?00:41
mah_hi i cant browes with my kongueror any body can help?00:42
trident523mah_: Okay... are you using the computer now?00:42
mrmonkeymanits like baobab00:42
mrmonkeymanshows disk space in a nice tree view00:42
mrmonkeymanvery convinient00:42
mah_yes and cdma connection00:42
trident523mrmonkeyman: what's wrong with baobab then?00:43
dwidmann_crimsun, with regards to medibuntu, I have a slightly offtopic yet slightly related question, ...If I set pin origin="Ubuntu" to >1000 and upgrade, and I have medibuntu packages, shouldn't that downgrade the packages to the Ubuntu repo versions?00:43
stdinmrmonkeyman: try kdirstat00:43
trident523mah_: Uh, try a different browser00:43
mrmonkeymanthe way you can go into folders and see the free space of the folders00:44
egorka perl script complains about missing /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8. Perl is installed.00:45
mrmonkeymani mean they're the same in a lot of ways, i've just always found that treesize would give me more information00:45
mah_i dont have00:45
alexbobpIf I have installed more operating systems since I installed kubuntu, how can I get kubuntu to use it's magic to detect the OS and add an entry to grub's menu.lst?  I tried adding it manually, but I seem to have done it wrong.00:46
crimsundwidmann_: no.00:47
mrmonkeymanThanks though, baobab is the closest to what i'm looking for00:47
mah_my browser doesnt know my connection00:48
billrkde4!00:49
billroh well00:49
billrI need to ask some questions about kde4 - where's the best place for that?00:50
FenixReignbillr: read topic00:50
Tm_Twhat is?00:51
dwidmann_crimsun: hmm, that's the impression man apt_preferences gave :( ..... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4abad63400:51
alexbobpoops, I'll ask again later.  I have to go.00:52
crimsundwidmann_: you haven't actually show us your apt_preferences.00:54
crimsunshown*00:54
dwidmann_I think this is the right one (it's on the second page of my klipper, so I hope so) http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6f4363800:55
dwidmann_@crimsun:00:58
crimsundwidmann_: well, first, you've misunderstood what "Origin" is.01:01
dwidmann_crimsun: Hmm :\01:01
dwidmann_crimsun: lets correct that so I should understand it in the future :)01:02
crimsundwidmann_: pick a binary package that you have installed from Medibuntu.01:02
crimsun(and say it here)01:02
dwidmann_I do know it's in the /var/lib/apt/lists*Release files though ...01:02
dwidmann_amarok01:03
crimsunok, now pastebin `apt-cache policy amarok && apt-cache show amarok'01:03
dwidmann_http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d38722a3d01:04
crimsundwidmann_: ok, so you didn't paste everything that I asked for, but what you have there is sufficient to demonstrate my point.01:06
crimsundwidmann_: note the distinct lack of an Origin for the medibuntu package.01:06
dwidmann_erm, copy+ pasteness will get me every time ... guess it only piped part of that in, oh well, I can grab the rest this time around if you'd like01:07
crimsundwidmann_: not really necessary at this poin01:08
crimsunpoint*01:08
dwidmann_yeah, I had noticed that, so, what purpose is the "origin" portion of the apt_preference tags then if not to be used this way?01:08
crimsunit _is_ meant to be used that way.01:08
dwidmann_Now I'm confused.01:08
crimsununfortunately, it has been clear for some time that medibuntu's usage in the Release file is not appropriate01:08
dwidmann_one second01:08
crimsuni.e., don't use Origin, because it's often _not_ set appropriately01:09
crimsunnot every apt repo creator is vigilant01:09
dwidmann_So this isn't correct crimsun? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4d9c88e01:10
crimsundwidmann_: if it's not ending up in the cache, no.01:11
dwidmann_Hmmm, gotcha01:11
dwidmann_crimsun: okay, I see where it's supposed to show up in the apt-cache show now ... things are so much clearer now.01:13
dwidmann_I think I can come up with a viable alternative, I was just frustrated at how it wasn't working ... sad that it was that obvious  and I didn't see it01:14
dwidmann_crimsun: another question about apt_preference while I've got your attention, seeing as you can do like "release a=blah", can you also keep going like "... b=blah c=blah d=blah...."?01:16
thehizzgeneral consensus..... should we be updating to 8.04 lts????01:18
stdinyou mean Ubuntu Gnome LTS01:18
dwidmann_in other words kubuntu 8.04 = non-lts01:19
crimsundwidmann_: on the same line?  I wouldn't do that.01:19
crimsun(for various reasons)01:19
crimsundwidmann_: but yes, order is vital01:19
dwidmann_crimsun: It's a one use deal for the most part.01:20
dwidmann_crimsun: still doesn't seem to want to downgrade the medibuntu packages .... bah01:20
dwidmann_ah, wait, that might be why ....01:21
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alfredoWhat you mean by Kubuntu 8.04 = non-lts?01:22
izzybis there a link that explains all the kubuntu/ubuntu release names?01:27
dwidmann_There we go, much,much better.01:27
coreymon77alfredo: kubuntu hardy is not an lts01:27
coreymon77alfredo: only ubuntu hardy is01:27
izzybsimilar to http://www.us.debian.org/releases/01:27
dwidmann_!names01:27
ubottuUbuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames01:27
izzybthanks01:27
dwidmann_Debians names are fun ...hehehe, Sid01:28
coreymon77alfredo: with kde4 still not being fully stable, it wasnt thought right to be making hardy a lts release01:28
* izzyb makes note of the bot keyword also :)01:28
alfredoUbuntu was many bugs to be a lts but Kubuntu not01:28
curtisi would like to burn a avi file to dvd?01:28
seledechola01:28
curtiscan anyone recomend a program01:28
curtis?01:28
alfredoThe kde 3.5.9 is like a rock01:29
curtisalfredo, is that for me?01:30
alfredocurtis, not for you01:30
curtisalfredo, avi burn to dvd and watch on dvd player what can i use?01:30
santiagohola como les va01:31
dragon64hola01:31
alfredocurtis, You whant to know a program to play DVDs01:31
alfredo?01:32
curtisalfredo, no i have an .avi file that i want to burn to a dvd and play on my dvd player.01:32
alfredocurtis, you have the k3b burning program or Brasero01:33
curtisalfredo, i have the k3b01:34
curtisalfredo, ?01:35
curtisare you there?01:36
curtis?01:37
curtis?01:37
curtis?01:37
curtis?01:37
alfredocurtis01:37
curtisyes what can i use?01:37
curtis?01:38
alfredocurtis, you have to install eMox and use it with conjunction with k3b01:38
alfredocurtis, i supose01:38
fernandohi01:39
dwidmannughhhhhh, amarok won't play anything ..... not even ogg files :(01:48
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dwidmanncome to think of it, kaffeine doesn't want to either ..... xine issue .... gah01:51
Sakuianyone used quasar?01:51
carlm01:52
carlanybody no how to statically assign a wireless nic in kubuntu gutsy without knetworkmanager fucking up01:53
izzybhow do I restart kicker?  seems to have crashed (non responsive01:53
Sakuikick it :P01:54
izzyblol01:54
jatiwhat's up all01:54
jatihello carl?01:55
carlhello mate01:55
carlfirst time used this01:55
carlheard bought it01:55
jatime to carl01:56
jatiwhat do u come from?01:56
jaticarl?01:56
carlcoventry01:56
izzybhmm, I killed the kicker process and ran it again and get this output and kicker pops up and vanishes again01:56
jaticarl?01:56
izzyb*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice01:56
jaticoventry??????01:56
carlengland01:56
jatiwow england?01:56
jatiwhat time in england now?01:57
p_quarles!topic01:57
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carlyeh do u know how to statically assign ip adress in kubuntu gutsy without knetwork mager doing 101:57
carlit is 1.57.am01:57
carlits a big bug01:58
carlcant seem to sort it01:58
jatioh im sorry, i newbie in kubuntu...01:59
carlme too01:59
shaharame too01:59
shahara:D01:59
carlbut i no some command line01:59
carlbeen thru sum distros01:59
jatihello shahara...01:59
shaharahello01:59
carlmy eyballs are strained02:00
jatiwhat do u come from?02:00
carlthru all the reading02:00
shaharaindonesia02:00
jatirealy?02:00
billydSe TX02:00
shaharayup02:00
jatime too02:00
shaharai see02:00
jatishahara kota mana?02:01
carlim going thanks newaay bye02:01
jatibye carl02:01
shaharaJakarta02:01
jatijakarta?02:01
shaharaiya02:01
jatipke kubuntu juga?02:02
sepeckis there a gui fro kron in the latest?02:02
sepeckcron not kron02:02
shaharaiya baru02:02
SteelRomano?02:02
SteelRomanoQue?02:03
jatikerja, kuliah, atau sekolah??02:03
SteelRomanowhat?02:03
shaharakerja02:03
stdinEnglish only in here02:04
shaffycan someone tell me how to install firefox 2.xx in kubuntu 8.04?02:04
stdinshaffy: install "firefox-2"02:04
shaffystdin: "No candidate version found for firefox-2"02:05
wirechief!paste02:05
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stdin!info firefox-202:05
ubottufirefox-2: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 8974 kB, installed size 26044 kB02:05
stdinshaffy: ^02:05
shaffywell, i still get the same thing :S02:06
SteelRomanoShaffy: Adept02:06
jatiim out.....02:06
jatibyee.....02:06
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stdinshaffy: enable universe02:07
shaffythanks stdin and SteelRomano.  i got it working now.  universe wasn't enabled.02:10
billydI was wrong when I left old configs iwhen I upgraded from 70.4 to 7.10 and have problems with FireFox.  Thinking of un-installing Firefox just befor I upgrade to *.04 and the install it again02:14
billyd8.0402:14
billydIs there any reason NOT to install KDE 4.0 rrright after I upgrade to 8.04??02:15
stdinnone that I can think of02:15
Jucatothere is one reason...02:16
billydI may well tire my tired old butt to the LogOn Cafe in Beaumont and do both Monday afternoon.  Figure on 3 hours or less of computer time.02:16
billydWhat is the reasom jucato02:17
Jucatoone reason not to install KDE 4.0 is if you don't want to install it :)02:19
billydOK02:19
Jucato:P02:19
contrast83Greets, everyone...02:20
contrast83Upon installing Hardy, my sound card (Intel) and wifi card (Cisco Aironet) didn't work. I compiled my own kernel (2.6.25) and that got my wireless working, but still no sound. Any ideas?02:20
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billydNo - I look forward to it.  Kontact/KPilot sposed to be able to cope with multiple PalmPilots and their OS % (Garnet??)  Also maybe be easier to humor HDA-Intel sound chips.  I'm lucky to have stereo ONLY sound right now02:21
billydPalm OS 502:21
stdinthere's no KDE PIM packages in 4.002:22
asobiis it mandatory to upgrade to hardy?02:22
Jucatobillyd: well there's another reason ^^^ :)02:22
Jucatoasobi: no02:22
contrast83asobi: Nope02:22
asobiwhen does support stop?02:22
contrast83asobi: 18 months after its release02:22
Jucatoasobi: 18 months after release02:22
billydcontrast - if that the HAD-INTEL card or chip it has caused TONS of problems02:22
billydHDA-INTEL02:22
Jucatoasobi: meaning 1 more year02:22
asobican i upgrade to v9 while skipping 8?02:23
Jucatono02:23
stdinonly with LTS -> LTS upgrades can you skip versions02:23
asobiso essentially i have to upgrade to 802:23
Jucatoand it's not "v8" or "v9"02:23
contrast83billyd: "$ lspci | grep audio" yields this: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)02:23
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contrast83billyd: So it's a known problem - wait for the fix, or is there a current workaround?02:24
caxondilloola?02:24
billydTHere is a bunch of stuff  here        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61684502:24
stdinasobi: the next after hardy will be 8.10 not 902:24
contrast83billyd: Awesome, thanks a lot!02:24
billydIt may not be the same.  THat designation covers several chips ,ine is ALC83302:25
asobiwhat comes after 8.1?02:25
Jucato9.0402:25
stdinasobi: not 8.1, 8.10. it's <year>.<month>02:25
billydThe numerals after thew decimal arew for months02:25
Jucatoasobi: the version numbers stand for year and month, and we always release in April and October02:26
Jucatoso it's always .04 and .10 per year02:26
stdinexcept dapper, but dapper is "special" :p02:26
asobiso 8.10 then 9.04?02:26
billydAnd it seems Kubuntu and Ubuntu aren't in step this time on LTS version either02:26
billydUbuntu 8.04 is LTS02:27
stdinasobi: yep02:27
contrast83billyd: Just going over the first part of that thread... Not sure if that's got me on the right track - My sound card doesn't seem to be recognized at all (which was never an issue with any other release/distro). Is that problem addressed in that thread?02:27
stdinbillyd: that was canonical's decision02:27
billydAnd it we have a 9.08, it will coincide with my last car note :-)02:27
asobiif i skip 8.04 and 8.10, can i upgrade to 9.04?02:27
stdinno02:27
asobiso in a way, it's mandatory02:28
billydI'm going through thta now02:28
contrast83asobi: In a way, yes. But you decide when. ;-)02:28
Jucatoasobi: *if* you want to upgrade to a much later version02:28
stdinmandatory every 18 months if you want a supported version02:28
asobisupport is good isn't it?02:29
contrast83Support = critical security patches, etc. Not much else, from my experience.02:29
asobicritical patches is good ~_~02:29
stdinwe can't possibly support every version ever made with community support, commercial support and security patches02:29
billydhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting              look at this contrast02:29
asobiright02:29
contrast83billyd: Will do, thanks.02:30
asobii wait for 8.1002:30
asobithanks02:30
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izzybis it possible to restart kicker without logging out of kde?02:41
stdinizzyb: if I remember it right "dcop kicker kicker restart" from konsole should do it02:41
izzybhmm, did something, but still dies02:42
billydIs there more 3rd party documantation for LTS versions??  I sorta get the impression there is.  I've been thinking an LTS version might be best for people new to Linux02:43
izzybdon't know if it's dieing or if its just not bouncing back up from a hide02:43
izzybis there a way to manually turn off kicker hiding?02:43
stdinthere's a setting somewere in kcontrol I think02:44
stdinor set "AutoHidePanel=false" in section "[General]" in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc02:45
Jucatostdin: I win this time :P02:45
stdinif I want to restart the panel I have to kill plasma :p02:46
Jucatostdin: kquitapp02:46
Jucato:D02:46
stdins/kill/quit/02:47
stdinI actually use qdbus :)02:47
stdinreminds me of the dcop days02:47
Jucatokquitapp --help: Quit a D-Bus enabled application easily02:47
* Jucato guesses it's actually calling qdbus :)02:47
stdinprobably easier than "qdbus org.kde.plasma /MainApplication quit" though02:48
Jucato:D02:49
Jucatomaybe not... I mean.. "kquitapp plasma" has got to be harder02:49
shaffy!xine02:54
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shaffy!gxine02:54
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shaffy!kubuntu-202:54
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Jucato!msgthebot | shaffy02:54
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Walzmynwe can add factoid to that bot?02:55
shaffyhow do you look up a package with the bot?02:55
stdinyou can suggest them and the bot will send it off to be reviewed02:55
Walzmynah02:55
Walzmyn!topic02:56
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Jucatoshaffy: !info package_name02:56
shaffydamn.02:56
shaffythanks02:56
shaffyhehe02:56
Jucatoshaffy: or you might want to use http://packages.ubuntu.com02:56
stdinor apt-cache search02:56
Walzmynthe bot gives info about stuff other than just packages, it's got one for !netinstall for example02:57
Jucatothose would be factoids02:57
Walzmynah, I see his question was specific for packages, my bad02:58
shaffy!info xine02:59
ubottuPackage xine does not exist in hardy02:59
osirisi just have to say that kubuntu has provided me a way better experience than trying to run ubuntu.  Hardy has a few issues, being new and all, but the application set in kde makes things much easier to deal with02:59
* Walzmyn bites his tongue about kde being better than gnome03:00
stdinkeep it bitten ;)03:00
Jucatoshaffy: you will have to provide the *exact* package name03:00
Schuenemanndoes anybody here have an ipod? How is ubuntu support for it?03:00
shaffyis there something wrong with the package servers? i've been getting a lot of download errors03:01
donald_duckhow do i defrag?03:01
stdindonald_duck: you don't need to03:01
stdinever03:01
Jucatoshaffy: there might be, depending on the particular download error and the server you are using03:01
Jucato!defrag03:01
ubottuThe default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.03:01
Jucatodonald_duck: ^^^03:01
JucatoSchuenemann: I heard quite ok, specially with amarok...03:01
Jucato!ipod | Schuenemann03:01
ubottuSchuenemann: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod03:01
Walzmynman, that thing is handy as side pockets03:02
Schuenemannhmm I don't have one yet, was just wondering how it would go03:02
Schuenemann!iphone03:02
ubottuFactoid iphone not found03:02
Schuenemannwhat happened to the other bot?03:03
stdiniphones are lame, don't get one :p03:03
donald_ducknot defrag my ext3 partitions but defrag my fat32 partition which is on my external drive? Its VERY slow03:03
Schuenemannstdin, I don't plan getting one... it's just the wiki said ipod touch and iphone aren't supported, I wanted to know if there is a plan of doing so :-)03:03
Walzmyndonald_duck, if it's external, plug it into a windows box and defrag it03:04
donald_ducki dont have a windoze box =D03:05
stdinSchuenemann: I don't know, I only have an ipod (original nano) because it was a gift, but it now runs linux and rockbox so works perfectly with kubuntu :)03:05
Walzmyndonald_duck, you don't have a friend or one at work or something? the things are like roaches, they're everywhere.03:05
donald_duckI suppose i could go to my library and plug the drive in a defrag03:05
Schuenemannstdin, can it play ogg?03:05
stdinSchuenemann: yep :D03:05
stdinall my music is in ogg03:05
Schuenemannthat's interesting03:05
stdin!rockbox03:06
ubotturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!03:06
Schuenemannthanks03:06
stdinit indeed does rock :)03:06
Schuenemannheh03:06
billydYou can even put different or altered OS in phone if you know what you are doing - at least I have heard that03:06
stdinand you can use it on win/mac as it'll just be seen as an external HD, so just drag+drop music onto it03:06
Schuenemannhmmm03:07
Schuenemanndoes itunes work?03:07
stdinitunes is evil03:07
stdinso no03:07
stdin:p03:07
wesley__lol03:08
Schuenemannheh... yeah, I was just curious. I don't like that encrypted stuff03:08
stdinin fact, itunes will likely break support with linux03:08
wesley__theres enough evil on the world like vista03:08
wesley__!vista03:08
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stdinit'll update the firmware just so it no longer works with linux, it's evil03:08
wesley__is that not bad stdin03:08
donald_duckwhy dosent my konquerors internet work??03:08
Walzmynthe internet dosen't belong to your konqueror03:09
donald_duckfirefox works03:09
Walzmynsorry, donald_duck, what's it doing?03:10
wesley__stdin will kubuntu update kde4 the 7th ?03:10
donald_duck An error occurred while loading http://google.com:Could not connect to host http://google.com/.03:10
stdinwesley: we'll have 4.0.4 on the day03:10
wesley__cool03:11
Walzmyndonald_duck, i'm not sure, since FF is working. I'd reboot and see what I got03:11
Walzmynmight not be the best answer, but it's what I always try :)03:12
billyddonald_duck - could you possibly have konquerot switched to work offline?03:12
wesley__going upgradeit right away ever stable kde4 update is nice and kde4.1 wil be much faster03:12
Schuenemannstdin, do you still get a cool UI with rockbox?03:12
stdinSchuenemann: a configurable UI03:12
stdinI have quite an old version on my ipod, from around 1.5 years ago, I may update it soon03:13
donald_duckkonqueror is online mode.03:13
Schuenemannhmm03:13
SchuenemannI'm checking the features... who the hell would want to play doom on the mp3 player?03:14
Jucatoit's a "classic" test among geeks. :)03:14
Schuenemann=]03:15
Walzmynit's not who would want to play doom, it's can me make it run.03:15
Jucatoalong the lines of "a gadget is not worth it if it can't be made to run DOOM"03:15
egorkhi, where should I start looking for what is called when a multimeda button is pressed on my keyboard?03:15
Jucato!keys03:15
ubottukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts03:15
Jucatoegork: try that ^^^^03:15
egorkthanks Jucato03:16
egorkJucato, I can not find Input Actions anywhere, is there a way to call it from the command line?03:24
Schuenemannegork, it's under regional settings03:27
Schuenemannegork, or accessibility, depending if you're in kcontrol or systemsettings03:28
donald_duckwhere do i report bugs03:28
Schuenemannbug in what?03:29
donald_duckkonqueror03:29
Schuenemannbugs.kde.org03:29
donald_ducknot launchpad?03:29
Schuenemannas a KDE application, I guess it would be at kde.org03:30
Mr_SonomaI'm having a little trouble with samba shares, specifically sharing a printer hooked to my machine with a windows machine. the windows machine can see the printer but when i try to print a test page it shows "access denied" and will not print.03:32
egorkMy problem is, the volume buttons work but only parially and I can not find where they are configured to fix it.03:33
Tw|sTok, I finally got v8.04 installed to 2 systems.  Nice release, but... I noticed that the boot-to-install function is kinda buggy.  However, the knoppix-like boot to desktop then install from icon works perfectly03:35
Tw|sTanyways, I still give the Kubuntu teams mad props for another great release.  considering how well things have gone with 8.04 overall, I'll be migrating my servers to it within the next month ( as soon as I can schedule adequate time to do so).03:39
PovAddictI just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz03:39
karl_i have a usb audio input device (microphone on my usb webcam) which works under skype, but I don't think that it has a mixer associated with it or is mapped as a device (/dev/). I would like to use it over flash, which supports this. Anyone know how to map the device someway for alsa to recognize it?03:39
PovAddictI'm getting some strange display corruption03:39
PovAddicthttp://imagebin.ca/view/gt7Z--R.html03:39
PovAddicthttp://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html03:40
PovAddictinactive titlebars usually don't even show03:40
PovAddictie. unfocused windows (usually) have no titlebar or borders03:40
yuriyTw|sT: buggy in what way? please file bugs on this.03:42
Tw|sTwill do, asap.03:43
Tw|sTthe bug was a disconnection to the installation media.  after this, using the same hardware, I ran a hd test (via Ultimate Boot CD) then ran a media check from the kubuntu disc.03:44
Tw|sTall turned out A-ok03:44
Tw|sTevery attempt at a direct install failed03:44
Tw|sTbut, when I booted into desktop mode, and installed via the desktop Icon, everything went as expected.03:45
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Agent_bobwhat happens if you don't register windows vesta ?03:59
fildo_they send the cops to ur house03:59
fildo_a03:59
fildo_asking for cash03:59
PovAddictask in ##windows03:59
Agent_boblol   and how whould they know ??04:00
Eruaranthey use it ?04:00
fildo_ur ip addy04:00
fildo_the track it down04:00
PovAddictAgent_bob: if you don't register it, it will enter Crippled Mode, basically04:00
fildo_anyways, stop asking ridiclous question, goto #windowblows04:00
PovAddictI just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz; and I'm getting display corruption on the window decorations04:01
fildoSysinfo for 'broken': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DualCPUE2180@2.00GHz at 1200 MHz (4014 bogomips), , RAM: 511/2027MB, 115 proc's, 51.4min up04:01
fildoops04:01
PovAddicthttp://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html04:01
PovAddicthttp://imagebin.ca/view/gt7Z--R.html04:01
midgardhi everyone04:02
Agent_bobPovAddict yes as i see.      crippled mode as you call it.  means  it will start internet explorer only   lol04:03
Dr_willisthat way it can still get spyware!04:03
Agent_bobright :)04:03
EruaranIt IS spyware04:03
Agent_bobyes drm and all04:03
Eruarana number of processes 'phone home' to a couple of microsoft addresses04:04
Dr_willispeople at work can not understand how i can 'legally' give away kubuntu/ubuntu and other linux cd's04:04
Eruaransend them to the FSF website04:05
Agent_bobDr_willis now that's sad.   i can't understand why it would be illeagle to give away windows cd's     like aol cd's ... ?04:05
Agent_bobwould/could04:05
Dr_willisOnw guy eas wanting a word processor. but dident want to pirate Word.. so i gave him an OpenOffice cd. :)04:06
Dr_willisWith OOo and Abiword both on it for windows. Did all the tasks that  he needed.04:06
EruaranImagine if a good book came with a licence and a seal stating that buy opening it and breaking the seal you agree to the publishers EULA...04:06
PovAddictAgent_bob: because each person has to pay for Windows04:06
redmoonWhat is the Site for wine?04:06
PovAddictwinehq.org04:07
PovAddictIIRC04:07
redmoonk04:07
Agent_bobPovAddict correct.  "each person" is paying for windows.   not only the users thereof04:07
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redmoonwait... is that the site for the emurl wine? or.. a " wine drink " site?04:08
Dr_willis>hic<04:08
PovAddicttry it and see04:08
redmoonahm...........04:08
redmoonits not the right one ><04:09
PovAddictit is04:09
PovAddicthttp://www.winehq.org/04:09
Dr_willis!wine04:09
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.04:09
redmoonthats what i put in.... =.=04:09
Agent_bobEruaran better still, Imagine if every one that opened their mouth to speak started with the words "by listening to the following, you will be accepting the EULA of the entire speach"04:09
redmoonit didnt give me the right site04:09
PovAddictbtw, W.I.N.E. = Wine Is Not an Emulator04:10
EruaranAgent_bob: heh04:10
tales_2010I downloaded and installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy, but I can't configure my network conection.. it says my default gateway is wrong, but it's not!04:10
Agent_bob!wine | redmoon04:10
ubotturedmoon: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.04:10
PovAddictAgent_bob: http://bash.org/?57745104:10
Dr_willisWine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X, OpenGL, and Unix.    first line on    http://www.winehq.org/04:10
Agent_bob!appdb | redmoon04:11
ubotturedmoon: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org04:11
tales_2010I downloaded and installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy, but I can't configure my network conection.. it says my default gateway is wrong, but it's not, and my connection does not work.. anyone knows why?04:11
redmoonI dont care what if its an emulator or not i need it04:11
redmoon>.>04:11
Dr_willisThen install it?04:11
PovAddicterm04:11
* Agent_bob doubts that you "need" wine, and rather supects that you "want" it.04:12
redmoonIm trying but im having the same complications =.=04:12
PovAddictyou'll kill me for asking this, but04:12
PovAddictdoes Kontact support syncing with PalmOS devices? :)04:12
redmoonI dont want it... I need it04:12
redmoonstupid >.>04:12
Agent_bobyou need air water and food.  you want everything else.04:12
redmoonNot really...04:13
redmoonYou also need a job to buy your water and food04:13
redmoonso bleh04:13
redmoonnot everything is wanted04:13
redmoonmind your own buisness please and i'll be fine04:13
PovAddictyou need air water and food; a job is just a way to get them04:14
Agent_bobwho poste that bash.org url   lol04:14
redmoonNo... you NEED a job04:14
redmoonyou can live with just food and water.. its no good unless you have shelter04:14
Agent_bobredmoon many people have lived without them04:14
redmoontherefore not everything is wanted04:14
redmoonw/e im not gonna argue with an idiot =.=04:15
redmoonLike i said ill be fine if you mind your own buisness >.>04:15
Agent_bobwhy not?  i have been04:15
redmoonhar har har04:15
redmoonim no idiot =.=04:15
Agent_bob:)04:15
Agent_bob#!ops | would show me to the door please, i'm arguing with an idiot04:16
tales_2010I downloaded and installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy, but I can't configure my network conection.. it says my default gateway is invalid, but it's not, and my connection does not work.. anyone knows why?04:16
redmoonIm not an idiot tyvm04:16
redmoonYour the idiot... not everything is wanted04:16
PovAddictright04:16
PovAddicteveryone has the right to own a computer...04:17
redmoonNo... that my friend is something we want04:17
PovAddictso is Wine04:17
redmooni said not everything is wanted i never said nothing is wanted04:17
redmoonor w/e04:17
Agent_bobtales_2010 umm is that in kdenetwork manager?04:17
redmoonWine is wanted04:17
redmooni need it04:17
redmoonsomeone else can want it.. But i need it04:17
Agent_boberr knetwork manager i mean ?04:17
neoni am trying to install themes from kde=look.ork but noluck is there a tutorial i can read on how to, thx04:17
Dr_willis!info wine04:18
ubottuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.59-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 11455 kB, installed size 53620 kB04:18
Dr_willisEnable universe repository, install wine.04:18
redmoonas i said before........ if you mind your own buisness i wont have a problem >.<"04:18
PovAddictredmoon: why are you in the channel?04:18
redmoonBecause Im busy doing multi things04:18
redmoonmulti-tasking04:18
redmoonim  adding different servers04:19
redmoonand talking in multiple chatroom04:19
redmoonchatrooms*04:19
redmoon=.=04:19
redmoonhave a problem with that?04:19
PovAddictyea so why did you join this one04:19
redmoonIdk.. it was already there04:19
redmooni just clicked it04:19
redmoonOnce again.......... if youd mind your own buisness id be fine >.>..04:19
redmoonthere are other people in here for you to torment04:20
PovAddictif we minded our own business, we wouldn't have told you where to find Wine website04:20
redmoon=.="..... It was a simple question because i forgot to add it to my favs so i wouldnt have to look for it =.= I asked a simple question and got smart ass remarks instead04:20
Agent_bobredmoon enough already.    if you stop insulting others you will be treeted much more hospitably04:20
neoni am trying to install themes from kde=look.ork but noluck is there a tutorial i can read on how to, thx04:20
redmoonIdc how im treated... im treated terrible everyday... Even tho ive never done anything to anyone.. spoken to anyone... Its just a racist thing i guess....04:21
Dr_willisneon,  theres a factoid04:21
redmoonso... being treated like crap over the internet dont bother me any04:21
Dr_willis!installthemes04:21
ubottuFactoid installthemes not found04:21
Dr_willis!themes04:22
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:22
PovAddictif you're treated badly by everyone, the problem might be you...04:22
Dr_willis!changethemes04:22
ubottuTo change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes04:22
redmoonThe problem isnt me...04:22
redmoonI dont even interact with people04:22
redmoonretard >.>04:22
PovAddictyou are, right now04:22
neonthx04:22
redmoonThats because its internet04:22
redmoonand idc who says stuff about me over itnernet04:22
redmoon=.=04:22
redmoonThere is a diff between... being treated badly by people your surrounded by everyday... and random people over the internet who dont even know who you are =.=04:23
BluesKajredmoon, sorry , we have no resident shrinks here04:23
fildolol04:24
redmoonI never said i needed a srhink >.>04:24
PovAddictredmoon: then quit the channel04:24
redmoonY would i do that?04:24
redmoonLike i said.. it doesnt bother me over the internet =.=04:24
redmoonit just gets annoying04:24
BluesKajand for us too04:24
PovAddictI thought bother and annoy were synonyms04:24
redmoonthen ignore it04:24
Agent_bobcalling people things like "idiot" and "retard" is expressly against the freenode.net CoC  it could result in a kline.04:24
redmoonSo?04:25
PovAddictredmoon: why don't YOU ignore it instead of asking us to mind our own business? mind yours and ignore us04:25
redmoonIm minding mine tyvm04:25
redmoonyou should ignore it instead of retaliating04:25
redmoongenius >.>04:25
Dr_willisPlus it tends to  make people want to help you less...  so whatever.. Im off to do other things for a while.04:25
baudthiefhaving a strange problem after shutting down - I had to (literally) take a screenshot: http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/04052008037.jpg04:25
baudthiefany ideas?04:25
baudthiefit just hangs there04:25
redmoonI could care less.....04:25
* Agent_bob notes that "retaliating" is a propper word there. 04:25
thechrisdoes 8.04 support installation from linux04:26
thechrisand if so, what additional kernal paremeters are required to get past usbcore.c04:27
Agent_bobbaudthief one idea on a workaround, use restart and then the power button before it boots again?04:27
BluesKajbaudthief, try this site , it may help, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/3204:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118605 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "[fglrx] freezes upon Logout or Switch user [patch]" [High,In progress]04:27
Agent_boboh good,  patch in progress04:28
baudthiefAgent_bob: I had to do the whole "REISUB" thing, I didnt think it'd be safe to just hard reset04:28
baudthiefBluesKaj: thanks, checking it out04:28
BluesKajbaudthief, ATI graphics I bet04:29
baudthiefnope04:29
baudthiefnVidia actually04:29
BluesKajoh04:29
Agent_bobbaudthief yeah, i'm talking the restart option rather than the shutdown option04:29
BluesKajhmm04:29
thechrisi'm getting /dev/ram does not exist when attempting to install04:29
baudthiefI'm 90% sure its due to samba shares I added - but still the question remains, why?04:30
BluesKajbaudthief, sorry I should have asked first , before posting that site04:30
baudthiefnp :P04:30
thechrismaybe this will work -- i'd like to install linux, but assume i don't have a CD drive04:31
Agent_bob!install | thechris04:31
ubottuthechris: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate04:31
Agent_bobsee the last url04:32
thechrisok, but those aren't up to date04:32
baudthiefBluesKaj: I guess I can just deal with it until I need to reinstall or whatever, things started getting really ugly after a failed upgrade to Hardy. Now I manually have to invoke 'mount -a' to mount my samba shares after logon, shutdown doesnt work, compiz is a bit choppy, etc04:32
Agent_bobnothing is uptodate in the software world04:33
Agent_bob!uptodate04:33
ubottuFactoid uptodate not found04:33
Agent_bobbah used to be a good one on that.  said something like do you mean what the code monkeys are about to write right now ?04:33
BluesKajbaudthief, is there a default restricted driver for your nvidia card ?04:34
PovAddictI just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz; and I'm getting display corruption on the window decorations04:34
PovAddicthttp://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html04:34
baudthiefBluesKaj: I think so, after I upgraded to hardy it didn't make me install manually, just worked right away04:34
Agent_bob!compiz | PovAddict if this helps,04:34
ubottuPovAddict if this helps,: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:34
baudthiefBlue: usually X dies saying it cant open a display, and i have to re-download and install a restricted driver manually04:35
PovAddictAgent_bob: so "it's not supported, you're on your own if it doesn't work"?04:35
baudthief* BluesKaj:04:35
Agent_bobPovAddict the "further help in #compiz-fusion" part of that post   ^04:35
|TroubleMaker|I am having trouble with samba shares, my windows machine (vista) can see my 8.04 machine but when trying to print to the printer connected to the linux box i get an error saying "Access denied, Unable to connect" any suggestions?04:35
baudthief|TroubleMaker|: try adding "Map to bad user = Guest" to your smb.conf04:36
Dr_willis|TroubleMaker|,   you might want to make the printer 'public' also.04:36
Agent_bobPovAddict as far as my helping can go on compiz you are totally on your own, but that's not by choice; that's of necessity.  sorry.04:36
BluesKajbaudthief, ok my symptoms were a shutdown hang , so I had to use the 3 finger salute to shut down after installing the restricted driver , but it was automatic after I chose theoption to do so.04:36
|TroubleMaker|make the printer public in cups?04:37
BluesKajautomatic install that is04:37
Dr_willisHmm.. samba shared printers are disabled by default? golly.. checking the smb.conf on my system right now.04:37
baudthiefBluesKaj: sounds ugly :P04:38
Dr_willis|TroubleMaker|,   guest ok = no            Change to yes.. Might help.04:38
BluesKajbaudthief, after following the tip on the site i posted earlier , the shutdown is normal04:38
sirmike1970mdhi all witch samba thing do i need to install to for the server so i can share files with my windows in k04:38
Agent_bobBluesKaj bar keep,  i'll have a three fingures of salute please  :)04:39
baudthiefBluesKaj: hmm :\ I think i'll deal with it for now heh - the "disappearing checkbox" bug is as annoying as hell though04:39
BluesKajwell, it's sacktime for me gents & gentilles... nitey nite04:39
|TroubleMaker|under the printers section of the smb.conf file guest ok = yes right?04:40
baudthiefhah, sacktime :P04:40
baudthief|TroubleMaker|: yup04:40
|TroubleMaker|ok that was already done04:40
|TroubleMaker|and just verified that one.04:40
GothicD3vilcan somebody give me a little of help?04:41
baudthief|TroubleMaker|: try adding "Map to guest = bad user" under [global]04:41
Dr_willisi alwyas make a windows user and linux user with the same name and password. making a samba password for the linux user with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'   - for my printing needs.04:41
baudthiefwithout quotes of course04:41
|TroubleMaker|this is my wifes laptop and she has a log on with my machine with the same user name..so that issue is already done Dr_willis ...... i'll run the smbpasswd command though (i think i've been down that road too though)04:42
GothicD3vilcan somebody give me a little of help?04:42
baudthiefGothicD3vil: Don't ask to ask, just ask :P04:43
GothicD3vilok, my question is i'm looking for a user friendly os, right now im using fedora (not friendly) and i want to know how is kubuntu or ubuntu or mandriva04:44
Alexmankubuntu04:44
Alexmankubuntu 100%04:44
baudthiefagreed04:44
GothicD3viland how easy is for get programs and games?04:44
Alexmani started out on SuSe and then switched to ubuntu04:44
Alexmanjust run synaptic package manager04:44
Agent_bobGothicD3vil last i compared mandriva was as uf as any.  but that has been a few years now.04:45
Alexmanvery easy04:45
GothicD3vilbecause fedora is everything is yums04:45
baudthiefGothicD3vil: but dont take anyones word on it, download :P It runs straight from the CD, so you don't need to install to test04:45
baudthiefBUT WAIT THERE'S MORE04:45
* baudthief goes away :(04:45
Dr_willisInstalling new stuff = run the packatge manager tool, click a few things, click intall...04:45
Agent_bobGothicD3vil in mandriva everything is urpm  and in ubuntu everything is apt04:45
GothicD3vili wish fedora was like that, i dont have mind for that too much sand in my brain to think in that04:46
|TroubleMaker|ok ran the smbpasswd and made the map to guest change, restarted samba and no joy04:46
baudthief|TroubleMaker|: :\04:46
GothicD3vilso you recomend kubuntu?04:46
baudthiefGothicD3vil: what answer would you expect from #kubuntu :P04:46
Dr_willis|TroubleMaker|,  try having the user connect to their home shares?04:46
Agent_bobGothicD3vil i recomend debian,  but you would probably like kubuntu better yes.04:47
|TroubleMaker|i dont have home shares enabled..just wanted to share the printer04:47
GothicD3viljajajaja i dont know maybe you run two different programs04:47
|TroubleMaker|guess i could uncomment those lines and try it though04:47
Alexmanhow do i get my ip?04:47
Agent_bob!whatsmyip04:47
ubottuFactoid whatsmyip not found04:47
|TroubleMaker|but i can see the printer in the windows machine's network browser04:47
Dr_willisAlso you might want to enable more verbose logging in the samba config, to see what its saying is going on.04:48
baudthiefwww.whatsmyipaddress.com04:48
GothicD3vilthanks for the help04:48
Dr_willisIt may be some CUPS issue, not a samba issue.04:48
Alexman!whatsmyip04:49
ubottuFactoid whatsmyip not found04:49
|TroubleMaker|http://paste.ubuntu.com/9917/ thats my smb.conf file04:49
Alexmanumm04:50
Alexmanthat website also says i live near washington :-p04:50
|TroubleMaker|it may be Dr_willis but i havent seen what i missed with either service....thats why im here asking questions maybe we will stumble on my error04:50
Dr_willisMy smb.conf from my old printserver ---------> http://paste.stgraber.org/315304:51
GothicD3vilkubuntu have compiz by default?04:52
Dr_willisGothicD3vil,  No it does not04:52
Dr_willis!compiz04:52
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion04:52
Dr_willisTakes all of 5 min to setup.04:53
GothicD3vilthanks04:53
thechrisanyone here install 8.04 from something other than a CD/DVD?04:55
Alexmani did!04:56
thechrisAlexman: how?04:59
Alexmani did the update manager04:59
|TroubleMaker|i tried yours Dr_willis .... no joy either (ofcourse i changed your MSHOME workgroup to WORKGROUP to match my wife's setup)05:01
Dr_willisI always have to change the default workgroup to mshome. :P05:01
Dr_willisCan she connect to her home shares?05:01
Dr_willisif so - then we can say its not a samba issue.. (I think(05:01
thechrisAlexman: ok, but i don't have a previous version of ubuntu05:02
Alexmanooh05:02
Alexmanthen do a cd05:02
Alexmanor order one05:02
Dr_willisthechris,  you might want to clarify what you Are wanting to do exactly.05:03
Dr_willisThere are several alternative isntall methods05:03
Dr_willis!install05:03
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate05:03
thechrisDr_willis: without using a CD, and without currently having windows or ubuntu on my box, but with having another distro of linux, as well as grub and a small CD-sized partition available, as well as a network, install 8.0405:05
Dr_willisYou can set up a 2nd linux box to do a netboot/install I belive.05:05
Agent_bobscript  getmyip.sh   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4f1779db05:06
Dr_willisThat way the intalling-to-box dosent need a cd/dvd at all.05:06
_mats_Why is Kontact trying (and failing) to connect to the server for my offline imap email account when I start it up? I have turned off all reasons I can think of for it to do that.05:06
|TroubleMaker|Dr_willis, actually i dont see a home folder when looking at the linux box from this laptop05:06
thechrisDr_willis: it seems very sad that there is no way to install 8.04 without a CD05:06
Dr_willisthechris,  thers are ways to isntall without a cd.05:06
Dr_willisnet boot, is one way. You can make a 'install able' usb-thumbdrive also.05:07
Agent_bobi thought i posted the factoid on that hours ago05:07
Agent_bob!install05:07
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate05:07
Dr_willisYou could set up  a system where you dont even Need to Install on the client box. it could totally boot/run off a server.05:07
Agent_bobthere is a word for that05:08
Agent_bobi just can't remember it.05:08
thechrisWell, i'm really trying to install in the most painless non-CD way.  which should be to simply use a partition to hold the data from the ISO and use grub to boot it05:09
thechrisbut that doesn't work05:09
thechrisalso, "dumb terminal"05:09
Alexmanwhats a "linux box"?05:09
thechrisany computer running linux05:09
Dr_willisIve heard of that being doable also thechris  but ive never used that method so cant help any more.05:10
Dr_willisOne stillneeds a way to get grub to boot the .iso file.05:10
thechriswell, no you mount the iso and copy the files to the partition.05:10
Agent_bobthechris you could copy an install from a desktop to the laptop using the liveCD05:10
Alexmanwhy dont you jsut order a free cd? O_O05:11
thechrisi just have 2 computers, neither with working CD burners, nor any blank cdrs05:11
Dr_willismounting the .iso will not work that way, since the installer does a lot of other things, for one reason.     proberly  a dozen other reasons also.05:12
Dr_willisNo 'usb thumb drives' either ?05:12
thechrisi might have one somewhere05:12
Alexmanorder a cd05:12
Dr_willishttp://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html05:12
Agent_bobi.e. install on a desktop,  boot the lappy with any good live linux cd,   (good being a relitive term there)    partition the hd on the lappy,  mount an fs on the lappy and use tar over ssh to copy all files from the installed desktop to the lappy   edit the fstab and menu.lst  install grub and boot05:12
Dr_willisbasically sets up Grub on your HD to boot the .iso file.05:13
thechrisno, i can't install on a desktop05:13
thechrisi have no cd.05:13
Agent_bobthechris go to shipit and order one05:13
Agent_bob!shipit05:13
ubottushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Hardy (8.04) CDs05:13
_mats_To answer my own question: I had checked "the server supports sieve". It was trying to connect to the sieve port!05:14
Agent_boband well see you in a month or two05:14
thechrisno, i'm fairly sure they will take more then an hour to send me the CD05:14
thechrisand if i can fix this in an hour...05:14
Agent_bobyou are not going to fix it in an hour,  case closed05:14
Agent_bobnext05:14
thechrisnot sure about that05:16
* Agent_bob checks timestamp on his irc logs...05:16
|TroubleMaker|Dr_willis, if it was a cups issue what else should i check?05:17
* |TroubleMaker| is still puzzling over the situation05:17
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Sakui /msg NickServ IDENTIFY anime05:20
pascalFRaie aie aie :)05:20
Odd-rationalethanks!05:20
Alexmanlol05:20
Alexmanomg05:20
AlexmanROFL05:20
Sakuilol05:20
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Sakuihehe05:21
Sakuiwhat is the program for kde's window manager?05:22
Sakuithe default05:22
Odd-rationalekwin05:22
* Sakui sighs05:24
chisiyuanhello?05:24
Sakuihi05:24
Alexman?05:24
Odd-rationaleSakui: kwin05:24
Sakuiit's not loading05:25
Odd-rationaleSakui: try alt+f2 and type in "kwin --replace" ?05:25
Agent_bobdon't you need some switch   --replace05:25
Agent_bobyeah what ^ he said05:25
Agent_bobhmmm my kernel does NOT recognize vga=770    ;/05:26
Sakuialt+f2 doesn't work05:28
Bria3Hi! Can I ask something?05:29
Agent_bobyou just did.05:29
Agent_bobdo you mean something else ?05:29
Sakuihow do remove all of these unneeded fonts?05:30
Bria3yes. How to install KDE 4 to Kubuntu Hardy?05:30
Agent_bobSakui package manager05:30
Agent_bob!kde4 | Bria305:31
ubottuBria3: KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:31
Bria3why my name becomes bria3?05:31
Bria3oh05:31
SakuiI just have Kfontview installed05:31
thechrisAgent_bob: well, i somehow fixed it.  moved grubs root to the same partition as grub and copied over the kernel.  no reason this should have fixed anything, but i'll take my victories where i can05:33
ubuntuHey.... Im running the live version of Kubuntu for the first time... Oh and it is 7.10 still. Are there any games on Kubuntu???05:33
PovAddictI just changed a "Window behavior" setting05:34
PovAddictand kde-window-decorator crashed05:34
viperserv2hello05:34
PovAddictrestarted it, changed a delay by 1ms and back to old value, clicked Apply, crashed again05:34
viperserv2i tried the doc on vnc server installation and the files arent there05:34
viperserv2when i use the get command to install05:35
ubuntuhello05:35
viperserv2hmm is there another way to install vnc server through ssh?05:35
Dr_willisviperserv2,  what files are you refering to? theres several vnc varints.05:36
ubuntuHELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO05:36
Dr_willisviperserv2,  i normally install the vnc4server package and clients05:36
viperserv2hmm it says no installation candidate05:38
viperserv2sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd05:38
viperserv2i tried that05:38
Dr_willis!info vnc4server05:38
ubottuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 1063 kB, installed size 2484 kB05:38
Dr_willis You might not have the universe repository enabled.05:38
Jack3how come when im in terminal on the live cd and type dolphin it says its not installed but it is?05:38
Dr_willisJack3,  perhaps thats not the proper name for it?05:38
viperserv2hmm how do i see if it's enabled?05:39
PovAddictDr_willis: it is, works for me (in my installed Kubuntu)05:39
Dr_williswhich dolphin  gives --> /usr/bin/dolphin05:39
Jack3none of the programs start from konsole on the livecd05:39
Jack3konqueror doesnt work either05:39
PovAddictecho $PATH05:39
Dr_willisI hate dolphin. i perfer konsole.   Couldbe the path is incorrect on the live cd.05:39
Dr_willisviperserv2,  what ubuntu release are you using?05:40
Dr_willis!repo05:40
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories05:40
viperserv27.04 desktop05:40
azzcoI've got multimedia keys on my beyboard, volume up/down are allready assigned, for global sound. Where do I unbind them?05:40
Dr_willisviperserv2,  fire up  the packatge manager tool and enable the universe and other  repositories like the guides say.05:41
PovAddictwhat package contains kde-window-decorator? I can't get apt-file to work05:42
bibekhi my server has load average: 5.69, 4.11, 2.9305:42
fildo!eggdrop05:42
ubottuFactoid eggdrop not found05:42
viperserv2hmm u can do that through ssh?05:42
bibekshould i be worried?05:42
azzcoPovAddict: compiz-kde maybe?05:42
Dr_williscompiz-kde - OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator05:42
PovAddictI wonder if there is any -dbg package for it05:42
PovAddictI'm having kde-window-decorator crash as soon as I change any setting05:43
PovAddictand stackdump says no symbols05:43
Jack3im trying to fix something with gurb using the live cd, and it says, 9) Run "grub --device.map=device.map" , but that says unrecognized option05:43
Dr_willisviperserv2,  if you are on a Linux box youc an 'ssh -X' to the remote and run apps.. or you can do all this via the command line.05:43
azzcoLaunch the decorator from cli?05:43
bibekload average: 5.69, 4.11, 2.93 is dangerous? my server is so slow05:43
PovAddictbibek: mine is at 3.03, 2.53, 2.4605:44
PovAddictby choice :)05:44
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine       On how to add repositories from the command line.05:44
PovAddictat least 2.00 of that is solving a math problem05:44
PovAddictwith both cores05:44
bibekPovAddict: :) oh05:44
bibekmine is a server on old redhat system05:44
bibekand migrating to ubuntu-server seems a real pain05:45
PovAddictazzco: not much05:45
PovAddictnicolas@ubuntu:~$ kde-window-decorator05:45
PovAddictKCrash: Application 'kde-window-decorator' crashing...05:45
viperserv2well my only option is remote cause the server is far05:45
azzcoI get a big OSD whenever I touch any of my volume up/down keys. Anyone know how to unbind them (It's only kubuntu that has this feature with my kbd iirc)05:46
PovAddictnote after I restart kde-window-decorator, whatever settings I changed *are* in effect05:46
Dr_willisviperserv2,  if it has the X stuff installed, you can ssh -X in, and run apps. or you can do all this from the command line.05:46
PovAddictif I disable compiz, it crashes too but at least it restarts itself05:47
Gokee2Hello all I am trying to get xdmx to work.  I can`t seem to find the package I need I tried getting libdmx1 but that was already the newest version.  Anyone know where I should go to get Xdmx?05:47
Agent_bobis there any form of sshd for that "other os" ?05:48
azzcoAgent_bob: putty05:48
Agent_bobazzco thought that was client only ?05:48
PovAddictAgent_bob: sshD? useless, you can't do much from a command line on "that other os"05:48
Gokee2Does putty do sshd?05:48
viperserv2well ssh -x bring me to ssh usage options05:49
azzcoAgent_bob: Sorry just jumped right out of my mouth without thinking. Yeah it's only a client from what I know05:49
PovAddictAgent_bob: but I think cygwin has a ssh server05:49
Agent_bobPovAddict irrelivant.   just want a way to ssh into it.05:49
Gokee2Agent_bob, Whats the point if you can`t do anything?05:50
Agent_bobGokee2 if you can't do anything ?      that's way to open ended05:50
PovAddictkde-window-decorator still consistently crashing05:51
Gokee2Hmmm....05:51
Dr_willisviperserv2,  its -X not -x05:51
Dr_willisviperserv2,  are you on a linux box right now?05:51
Agent_bobGokee2 you can't do anything in that other os anyway, so what's the point in having it       is just as factual and relavent05:52
Matt1728can anyone help me install flashplayer on opera05:52
viperserv2i can only remote05:52
viperserv2they box is at a data center :(05:52
Dr_willisviperserv2,  it may or may not have X on it then.  Use the command line  howto/guide to enable the extra repositories then is proberly the best bet.05:53
Sakuiwhere are the system fonts located?05:53
Dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine       On how to add repositories from the command line.05:53
Dr_willisviperserv2,  basicially you edit 1 file and remove the # comment at the front of a few lines. :)05:54
FlyByeHi - I am looking for help with a wubi installation on a system which already has xp(x86) and vista(x64) on it .. anybody with experiance of doing this?05:54
Gokee2Agent_bob, Its handy for IE to make your website look right to people who use it05:54
Gokee2Although I am thinking of setting up IE in wine05:55
FlyByeright now even if I put the desktop cd iso in the same folder as wubi it does not find the iso and crashes05:55
viperserv2well it seems it installed vnc now05:56
Dr_willisviperserv2,  which vnc did you isntall. :)05:56
viperserv2vnc4server xinetd05:56
FlyByeIs there a wubi- guru in the House???05:56
Dr_willisif using vnc remotely over the internet. it would be safest to set up some ssh tunnles.. but thats beyond me.05:56
Dr_willisviperserv2,  you might want to install some very minimal desktop to use with vnc also. Kde can be rather slow.05:57
Dr_willisviperserv2,  ALSO if you are doing Linux to linux only. that 'freenx'  tool may work better for you then vnc.05:57
Dr_willis!freenx05:58
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX05:58
FlyByenobody keen to have a shot at a wubi- installer problem...06:00
Dr_willisI avoide wubi like the plague.06:01
Dr_willis!wubi06:01
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.06:01
Dr_willisthats the extent of my Wubi knowledge. :)06:01
Jack3with vi how do i move the cursor to the right side of a letter?06:02
FlyByeHi Dr. Wi... jeah - kool - I got that far myself hehehe06:02
Agent_bobmaybe i should install windows in a vertual machine so i can install wubi ???06:02
Dr_willisArrow key?  of course ubuntu defaults to the vim-tiny - so that may not be enabled in that.06:02
Dr_willisthere is a 'vimtutor' program that gives you a vi 101 basics training. :)06:03
Agent_bobJack3 press [ins]  then use the arrow keys06:03
Dr_willisl = moves right in vi :)06:03
Agent_bobin command mode yeah06:03
Agent_bobin insert mode l = l06:04
Dr_willisOf coruse I recvall in the vim-tiny in INSERT mode. the arrow keys kick you out of insertmode and print out some escape codes.06:04
Dr_willissince its in vi compatability mode. (i think) I have my vim so tweaked its scary06:04
FlyByeAgent .. that is a somwhat perverse idea... heheh06:05
Dr_willisHmm.. hardy seemes to have fixed that quirk. Yea!06:05
Agent_bobFlyBye heh  yeah06:05
dthackerwhoa!  hardy means no more control codes with arrows!  That's been bugging me for a year.06:06
FlyByeso where the f- am I gonna find some help on this wubi thing...?06:06
dthackerin vi that is06:06
azzcodthacker: control codes?06:06
dthackeror escape codes.06:06
Agent_bobFlyBye well it's not kde specific so maybe in #ubuntu   maybe in #wubi  maybe in ##linux or ##linuxhelp06:06
Agent_bob!wubi06:07
ubottuWubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.06:07
* dthacker needs to do some vi tweaking06:07
* Agent_bob never did learn to like vi06:07
Agent_bob</ducks>06:07
Dr_willisdthacker,  :) thats what vim.tiny and the compatability mode caused.06:07
PovAddictheh06:07
Dr_willisdthacker,  a 3 min fix. :)06:07
PovAddictmy iPod touch is seen as a *camera*06:08
Fujisan!vista06:08
ubottuVista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows06:08
Agent_bobhmmm going to have to cat zero to sda1   "scandisk" found all sorts of disk errors....06:09
Dr_willisuse dd may be faster. :)06:09
Agent_bobthink so ?06:09
Fujisani see an error06:09
Fujisandouble the06:09
Dr_willisbe sure you dont use sda1 when you mean sda, and so forth also.06:09
Fujisan;o06:09
Fujisanthundercats hooooooooooooooooo06:09
Agent_bobDr_willis no just a partition     (yes that laptop has them, unlike all my other boxen)06:10
Fujisan!beer06:11
ubottuFactoid beer not found06:11
Fujisan!love06:11
ubottuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.06:11
Fujisan!hate06:11
ubottuhate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy06:11
Agent_bobYEAH! "ice-weasel"06:11
Fujisanhehe06:12
PovAddictstop playing with the bot and fix my OS06:12
PovAddictlol06:12
Fujisan!help06:12
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)06:12
Agent_bobDr_willis i'm timming it.  i'll do both cat and dd to see which is faster06:12
FujisanD:06:12
PovAddictlol @ !help06:12
Fujisanbaba06:12
Fujisannalioth06:13
viperserv2i installed nxserver but it's not in the dir06:13
Fujisan:)06:13
FujisanJucato06:13
Fujisanwake up :P06:13
Fujisani need ya'll06:13
PovAddictargh06:13
PovAddictI keep having kde-window-decorator crash on me when I change any setting06:13
PovAddict*and* titlebar display corruption when compiz is in use06:14
Fujisanlol06:14
naliothFujisan: there are 296 other people here that can help you06:14
Fujisanwhich kde version?06:14
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  use /dev/random also :)06:15
PovAddictFujisan: KDE 3, Kubuntu 8.0406:15
Fujisansorry nalioth06:15
PovAddictno! /dev/random will be slow as hell06:15
PovAddictuse /dev/urandom06:15
Dr_willisheck use /dev/dsp ! :)06:15
Agent_bobDr_willis that would be cheeting.  i'll use zero on both06:15
FujisanPovAddict that could be caused by lots of things06:15
viperserv2oh the package isn't there anymore06:16
Agent_bobthat never would finish...06:16
Fujisan-i am novice newb-06:16
Fujisani just boot into kubuntu whenever i want to be white and nerdy :P06:16
Agent_bobcli only and i'm not playing sound06:16
Agent_bobmaybe psaux tho  :)))06:17
Fujisankubuntu via andLinux is my preferred medicine :)))06:17
viperserv2hmm will other version of freenx work on ubuntu?06:17
FujisanPovAddict but according to nalioth there are 296 other people here that can help you06:17
Fujisan:)06:17
Agent_bobFujisan you can't be white and nerdy in kubuntu,  you can only be nerdy cause it's international06:18
Fujisanhehe06:18
Dr_willisviperserv2,  yep. you may want to check the official freenx web site - see if they have newer packages06:18
Fujisanit was a reference to the song06:18
FujisanAgent_bob06:18
Fujisanthe werd al song06:18
Fujisani didnt mean anything negative just a reference to that tune06:18
Agent_bobwho's werd al ?06:19
Fujisanweird Al Yankovic06:19
Agent_bob:)06:19
Fujisancant be bothered with spelling06:19
* PovAddict points at #kubuntu-offtopic06:19
FujisanPovAddict life is offtopic06:19
Fujisan:)06:19
Fujisanhence why it is temporary06:19
Agent_boblike duh,  i even got it without the 'i'06:20
Agent_bob:)06:20
Agent_bobPovAddict was someone working on something ?06:21
PovAddictAgent_bob: wtF06:21
Agent_boboh man,  shots fired!  be back when.06:21
Dr_willisviperserv2,  https://launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive     seems to have some. No idea how reliable they are.06:21
PovAddictyeah I bet people around the world are working on something06:21
viperserv2hmm how do i install a source?06:29
Odd-rationale!compile | viperserv206:29
ubottuviperserv2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)06:29
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: you can download the nxserver .deb from nomachine.com06:30
viperserv2.deb is that a binary version?06:31
Odd-rationaleyes06:31
Fujisanhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9307/ubottuve0.png<-- this is a pic of me and ubottu hitting it off =p06:31
PovAddicteww vista06:32
FujisanPovAddict06:32
Fujisanno06:32
Fujisanits a theme06:32
Fujisanborders06:32
PovAddictso what06:32
Fujisanits not vista06:32
PovAddictI know it's not06:32
PovAddictyou're making it look like Vista06:32
Fujisanyes06:33
PovAddictI'm sick of themes that are just like Vista with a color or two changed - no originality anymore?06:33
Odd-rationaleyou can make linux look like whatever you want. who cares?06:33
PovAddictOdd-rationale: and I can say "eww" to whatever I want. who cares?06:34
FujisanPovAddict you have a chip on your shoulder matey06:34
Fujisanbe nice :)06:34
Odd-rationalenot me... :P06:34
Fujisanbe well be liked :D06:34
PovAddictwell been asking questions here for a while, I'd say not a single useful answer so far06:34
PovAddictand you just go offtopic06:35
PovAddictthen tell me to "be nice", when I'm not saying anything wrong...06:35
viperserv2hmm i am not sure what to get off that site06:35
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: let me show you...06:35
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: first, what have installed so far and from where06:36
Dr_willishttps://launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive        had some debs and lines for the sources.list for hardy.06:36
Odd-rationale?06:36
FujisanPovAddict the virtue of patience is a virtue you still need to master young paddawan06:36
Dr_willisuse at your own risk  - of course.06:36
yao_ziyua1can anyone suggest faster solutions than tor?06:36
viperserv2i installed vnc server ealier06:37
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: did you install any nx, freenx stuff?06:37
viperserv2not sure if it's runner06:37
viperserv2no06:37
viperserv2the server is a core2due with 4gb of ram i think. would vnc lag it down much?06:38
Dr_willisvnc needs a little bit of setting up. and it does not run by default as a service.06:38
Odd-rationalenot too much06:38
Dr_willisthe issue with vnc  is the connection between machines - which can make the desktop laggy06:38
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: are you running 32bit?06:38
viperserv2freenx is the same thing but smoother?06:39
viperserv2not sure06:39
Dr_willisfreenx is a similer tool. but supposed to be faster06:39
Dr_willisI only use vnc on local lans.06:39
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: or are you running 64bit?06:39
viperserv2how do i get what os and system info?06:39
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FujisanJucato :D06:40
Fujisanmy tagalog linguel expert :)06:40
Dr_willislsb_release -a      viperserv206:41
Agent_bob-d06:41
viperserv2says nothing about the bit06:42
viperserv2so it might be the normal version06:42
Agent_bobDr_willis it isn't finished but i can already tell you that  cat * > *    is more than twice as fast as  dd if=* of=*06:42
Odd-rationalewell, if you don;'t know, then you are probably running 32bit...06:42
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: download the client, the node, and the server, and install them in that order.06:43
Odd-rationalehttp://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=506:43
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: got that?06:46
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  there may be the reason one always sees dd used with a blocksize argument.06:46
viperserv2yeah06:46
viperserv2i am ul the nod and server to the server06:47
Agent_bobDr_willis can't see that it would matter,  it defaults to bs=51206:47
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: ?06:47
Dr_willisHmm.. i cant figure out freenx. :() lol. thats proberly why i always used vnc06:47
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: what are you doing?06:47
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  i  just recall always seeing dd examples with some bs options.  I normally just dd from cd/dvd disks to iso files.06:48
Agent_bobDr_willis but doesn't dd 1.read write read compare 2.read write read compare 3....  ?06:48
viperserv2still ul those to the server06:48
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: what is ul :?06:48
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  i ALSo recall a special recovery dd variant for imaging bad disks that i think skiped some steps :)06:49
Agent_bobwhereas cat readZ and the out is redirrected to the device...06:49
Odd-rationaleupload?06:49
viperserv2yeah sorry06:49
Agent_bobDr_willis hmmm   well the clock is still running and it looks like dd is at least three times slower than cat >  by defautl06:49
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: let me know when all is finished installing. (just double-click the .deb to open with gdebi-kde)06:50
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  file a bug! :)06:50
viperserv2well odd theres a problem06:50
viperserv2i can only ssh06:50
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: what is that?06:50
Agent_bobwhy?  it seems to be functioning like it was designed to Dr_willis ;/06:50
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: np06:50
joneehello how are you able to set up wep in kubuntu?06:50
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: just do "sudo dpkg -i /pathto.deb06:51
Agent_bobDr_willis or did you mean on your advice  :)))06:51
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  reading up on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd    they  state the trade offs of using a small vs a large block size06:52
Dr_williswriting TO your disk  like you are a large BS would help a lot.06:52
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  Hmm. that url has some neat dd tricks. :)06:53
Agent_bobi still doubt that it can compair to cat >06:54
Jack3can someone that is good with grub take a look at this and possibly help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78115706:55
viperserv2dirno go06:55
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: ready for the next step?06:55
Agent_bobjack3 i'll look but i'm not claiming any grateness.06:55
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  im guessing theres some reason tht i see NO 'examples' or suggestions to use cat, over dd..  Heck i cant even find any examples on google with using 'cat' to do it.06:56
Agent_bobJack3 do you have a live linux CD ?    booted in that system ?06:57
joneecan anyone help me setup my wep key in kubuntu?06:57
viperserv2it didn't install for some reason06:57
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: what did it say?06:57
viperserv2dpkg: error processing /pathto.deb (--install):06:58
gwenGreets, everyone...06:58
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: you were suppose to replace /pathto.deb with the corecct file path to the .deb file06:58
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: hold on...06:58
Agent_bobDr_willis getting close to 4x the time...   and you said it might be faster :)))06:59
* Agent_bob razzes the good doctor while he can hehhe06:59
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  from the guide i just saw using the bs=40whatever the speeds should be identical06:59
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: the computer you want to be the nxserver, is not the computer you are on now?06:59
viperserv2no it's a server at a data center07:00
Agent_bobDr_willis i'll test it when this one gets finished.   and it's 409607:00
Odd-rationalean you want to remotely control that server with nx?07:00
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  some inte4ersting info on http://www.kernel.sg/roller/eugene/entry/cat_1_is_as_fast    also07:00
gwenI just installed Kubuntu Hardy on my aunt's desktop and GRUB is failing to load Windows XP - My menu.lst: http://www.pastebin.ca/1006731 - Any ideas?07:00
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  also it appears that one 'cat' is not always the same as another disrtos cat. :)07:01
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: an you want to remotely control that server with nx from you local computer?07:01
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: I'm tryin to understan your situation...07:01
Agent_bobDr_willis it finished    exactly 4x as long.   i'll test with bs=4k now.07:01
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  then post a report.. :)07:01
Dr_williswith powerpoint graphs07:02
Agent_boblol07:02
Agent_bobnot a chance07:02
viperserv2yes07:02
Dr_willisThen try with bs=1gb07:02
Dr_willis:)07:02
viperserv2this computer is using vista07:02
* Agent_bob wonders where jack3 went07:02
viperserv2server ubuntu 7.0407:02
Dr_willisI will have to rember to set the bs when i dd from cd/dvd disks to iso in the futyre also.07:02
Agent_bobDr_willis why not 22g  seeing that's the partition size ;/07:02
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: right now, you are on your local (vista) computer, connecting to the remote computer via ssh?07:03
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  use 30g see ifyou can enlarge the disk07:03
Agent_bobummm aren't cd's some wierd 1008 or something size ?07:03
viperserv2yes07:03
viperserv2i also have winscp connected07:03
Agent_bobDr_willis i already know enough about dd to know that that will fail07:04
Jack3Agent_bob, oh gosh im sorry i totally forgot :(07:04
Agent_bobJack3 do you have a live linux CD ?    booted in that system ?07:04
Jack3Agent_bob, yes i have a kubuntu bootable cd07:04
Agent_bobok07:04
Jack3should i start it up?07:04
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: so you donwloaded the three .deb files already?07:04
viperserv2yeah there in the /home dl07:05
Agent_bobjack do this in a terminal and pastebin the results for me please     "cat /proc/partitions"    and what is the linux installation location ?07:05
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: thay are on your locale machine or the remote machine?07:05
Agent_bobjack3   yes running linux   do that  ^07:05
viperserv2both07:06
ttreadgwen, can you access the Windows partition ok from Kubuntu?07:06
Jack3Agent_bob, linux is on a partition of the 120gb that is the first primary master drive during post.07:06
Jack3it is /dev/hde107:06
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: where are they on the remote machine? what folders?07:06
viperserv2./hom07:06
viperserv2./home07:06
Agent_bobJack3 ok but, just because you change the order of disks in bios; it does not mean that you change them in linux.   it does however mean that you changed the order in grub.  so we need to see where linux sees the disks and where bios sees them.  k07:07
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: ok so put the entire path to file. sudo dpkg -i /pathtofile07:07
Odd-rationaleget it?07:07
gwenttread: Yeah... And it shows up in the boot menu, but when I select it, it just says something to the effect of "Now starting..." and just hangs indefinitely (10+ minutes).07:08
Jack3Agent_bob, okay, sec live cd is still startin07:08
Agent_bobk07:08
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: remember to install the nxclient first.07:09
Agent_bobDr_willis i'll know in less than a minute if it's as fast with bs=4096 or not07:09
viperserv2ah how do i install it?07:09
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  Im seeing no rhyme or reason or logic to the differnt bs= options  on these guides.07:10
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: do "sudo dpkg -i /path to nxclient.deb"07:10
Dr_willisive seen them from 1024x1 x2 x3 and even a few with bs=200m :)07:10
Agent_bobDr_willis i'm still thinking that the reason for the time differance is that dd tests it's write.07:10
gwenIs FreeNX/NXClient even available on Hardy yet? I tried earlier today with the Gutsy packages (the latest available from NoMachine's site) and was getting dependency issues.07:10
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Odd-rationalegwen: really? I tried them them too and it worked...07:11
Agent_bobDr_willis it's only slightly longer with bs=   it's 32 seconds longer than cat07:11
Agent_bobthat for 22g write07:11
gwenOdd-rationale: All three (client, node and server)?07:11
Odd-rationalegwen: yes.07:11
Agent_bob31.44 seconds actually07:12
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  from what i am gathering also.. any bs over 1mb can be slower then a smaller bs count07:12
gwenStrange. -_~07:12
Odd-rationalegwen: + the web plugin07:12
gwenHmm07:12
Agent_bobDr_willis 4k is optimum on hdd's07:12
JurgentjeHi... I've got a problem: I can't mount my EXT3-drives from the Kubuntu Live CD (my system hangs, would like to alter my grub.conf file)07:12
Agent_bobmost hdd's07:12
JurgentjeI get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 99907:13
gwenOdd-rationale: Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it another go, I guess.07:13
Agent_bobyou want to write a full sector at a time.07:13
gwenttread: Any ideas? :-)07:13
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: got it? or still won't install?07:13
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  yep. also there is  mention of sync and async. issues. but thats from one hd to another from what i gather in the posts07:13
Jack3http://pastebin.com/m18567a0b07:13
ttreadgwen: Not off the top of my head, I'm googling around07:13
Jack3Agent_bob, thats for you haha07:13
Agent_bobDr_willis yes should not matter at all on char device to block device07:13
Agent_bobjack3 looking07:14
Dr_willisI wonder if 4k is optimal for reading from a cd/dvd - I imagine so...07:14
gwenttread: Same here. Thanks.07:14
Sir_CorgiHello, can someone please help me?  I recently re-installed Firefox 2.0.0.14 after unstalling the 3b5 that Hardy installed, and now my Java plug-ins won't work.  I've tried uninstalling and re-installing them, but they still don't work.07:14
Agent_bobDr_willis i think that at least cda is a funny size 1008 or some such07:14
Agent_bobJack3 did i miss the   fdisk -l  post ?07:15
Agent_bobjack3 sorry if i over looked it some place   but i'd like to see it to07:16
Jack3okay ill grab it07:17
Odd-rationaleviperserv2: hey, sorry. but I really got to go now. I'm sure others will be able to help you set it up. Good Luck!07:18
Jack3Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m11f0611607:19
ttreadgwen: You could try changing the menu.lst so that the root (hd0,0) command in the windows section to rootnoverify (hd0,0) instead07:20
ttreadgwen: see http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_toc.html#TOC1407:20
Agent_bobJack3 in the terminal  do    sudo -i07:20
Jack3okay07:20
Jack3whats that do?07:21
Agent_bobJack3 now do   mount /dev/hde1 /mnt07:21
gwenttread: Cool, I'll give that a shot. Thanks a lot! :-)07:21
Jack3k done07:21
Agent_bobJack3 grub-install --root-directory=/mnt07:21
Agent_boberr sorry07:22
Agent_bobJack3 grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hde07:22
Jack3just hde or hde107:23
Agent_bobhde07:23
Agent_bobMBR of that disk.07:23
Agent_bobit will probably report a warning,  warnings are ok  errors are not.07:24
viperserv2freenx not working?07:24
viperserv2well it don't work for ubunto?07:24
Jack3Agent_bob, i messed with the device.map on that disk too,, i will  pastebin the original and the new one.07:24
Agent_bobjack3 only the new one    will be fine07:25
Jack3Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m57baca707:25
Agent_bobk07:25
gwenttread: No joy, thanks anyway though...07:26
Agent_bobJack3 if your bios boots hde first you need to put it like the old one07:26
Jack3k will do07:27
Agent_bobJack3 lets see  /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst too07:27
Agent_bobJack3 /mnt/boot/grub/device.map  and  /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst     when you get done editing the device.map07:28
ttreadgwen, too bad07:30
* Agent_bob cautions Jack3 to not forget the /mnt/ we don't want to work on /boot/* it's in ram07:30
Jack3Agent_bob, i know that atleast ;) :D07:31
Agent_bobwasn't trying to imply that you didn't,   jsut that anyone can overlook that.07:31
Agent_bobmany have  ;/    specally old linux hands.    habbits formed in the installation can make for mistakes in the liveCF07:32
Agent_bobcd even07:34
Jack3hehe :D07:34
* Agent_bob == typo king of channel07:34
Agent_bobi stole that title from intelikey07:34
Sakuiargh07:35
Jack3Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m3ee53ac307:35
Agent_boblooking07:36
Sakuikde window manager is crashing when I edit something in kcontrol >:(07:36
Agent_bobJack3 ok change (hd2,0) (hd0,0)   in menu.lst07:37
Jack3Agent_bob, all traces of hd2,0 change to hd0,0?07:39
viperserv2how would i go about taking 2 drives out of marrior with ssh?07:39
Agent_bobJack3  yes,   and you have windows on hdf1 ?   and sdb1 ?    if so  you'll have to change the  listing for Microsoft Windows XP Professional shows to be on the same partition as your linux install  hde107:40
Jack3Agent_bob, non working windows partitions, i dont want them booting07:41
Agent_bobit is really on (hd3,0)      and you can comment them out and leave them there if you want.07:42
Agent_bobnot (hd0,0)   ^  the XP line07:42
Jack3how do i do the # sign in vi?07:45
Agent_bobJack3 [ins]  enters insert mode    i think07:46
Agent_bobthen it's normal type writer07:46
Agent_bob[esc] brings you back to command mode    iirc07:46
viperserv2i have 2 hds in raid1 there anyway to get them into raid0 or unraid them with ssh?07:47
Jack3Agent_bob, when i press shift + 3 it screws up07:49
Agent_bobJack3 here's a thought for you from my own config http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1555fbb1  notice the last four enterys "bounce" to the next disks boatloader   that way if you install say windows on sdb you can let it install it's boot loader on the MBR of that disk and just switch the bios to boot from your linux disk once installed   then to boot windows you select the disk and let it's own boot loader take over07:49
Agent_bobJack3 use nano   /07:49
Agent_boblike i said,  just a thought.07:50
* Agent_bob has three bootloaders on his box07:51
Agent_boball three of which can "bounce" to the other two, meaning i can bootload bootloaders all day if i want...07:53
Sir_CorgiYES!!!! w00t!07:54
Jack3Agent_bob, how do i save in nano?07:54
Sir_CorgiI finally have Java on FF2!07:55
Agent_bob[ctrl]+X07:55
Agent_bobthe menu is at the bottom of the screen07:55
Agent_bob^ == [ctrl] key07:55
joneewhich is better wpa2 enterprise or personal?07:57
Jack3Agent_bob, after all that still error 17 :'(07:58
Agent_bobJack3 you do have bios set to boot hde first ?07:58
Agent_bobnot the sata but the ide disk07:59
Jack3yes i do07:59
Agent_bobok boot the the menu and hit [esc]08:00
Jack3im there08:00
Agent_bobselect the ubuntu08:00
Agent_bobhit e08:00
Agent_bobnot enter.  the e key08:00
Agent_bobyou there ?08:01
Jack3Agent_bob, wait boot what?08:02
Agent_bob[esc]  (select ubuntu)  [e]  (select root) [e]   change  (hd0,0) to  (hd2,0)   [enter]  [b]08:02
Jack3when booting the computer?08:03
Jack3it just goes straight to error 17 ...08:03
Agent_bobyes at grubs menu        that's the full instructions to test08:03
Agent_boboh..08:03
Agent_bobok  ummm we have to find a way to tell it where grub really is.08:03
Jack3yeah esc doesnt do anything08:03
Agent_bobJack3    what is happening to you is this.   you boot the live CD and the bios is not the same as when you later try to boot the linux install.     i have fought with this before.    it's never fun tho.     not any chance you can disable the sata disks and install grub then reconnect them is there ?08:05
Jack3Agent_bob, i dont ahve sata, its an pci IDE card08:06
Jack3i can take that card out though...08:06
ek247hello08:07
Agent_boball but the hde and hdf   ?08:07
ek247I am new to the chat08:07
ek247is everyone here use linux08:08
Jack3Agent_bob, yeah io can08:08
ek247hi rosco08:08
Agent_bobjack that might be the easiest08:08
ek247hi jack08:08
ek247hi agent jack08:09
viperserv2well it seems i can shutdown a array08:09
ek247do you have private chat person 2 person08:10
ek247hi dekans08:10
Agent_bobsteps are like this  1. disable the other disks   2. boot the live CD    3. mount the hde1 on /mnt    4. grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hde  "shouldn't need to change the config this time. but you might back it up."   5. power down reconnect the other disks   6. test   @ jack308:11
Agent_bobi need a marble to lay on the f key on this lappy so i don't have to press f ...08:12
Dekansek247: hello08:14
viperserv2there anyway to disable raid in ssh?08:14
viperserv2raid1=back :(08:15
viperserv2bad08:15
ek247hi dekans08:16
ek247are you a regular here08:16
ek247dekans08:17
ek247iam trying to register so i can do a prvate one on one08:18
ek247dekans08:18
ek247this linux system is fairly new to me08:19
ek247and i came here to seek some help/advice08:19
ek247dekans08:19
Agent_bobek247 actually pm=private messaging   without being invited is kinda frowned upon.  if you just want to chat there are channels for that.   #kubuntu-offtopic is ont.08:19
Agent_bobone08:19
Agent_bobek247 if you have help related questions feel free to ask.08:20
ek247yes I read i need to register first08:20
Agent_bob!patience08:20
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:20
Agent_bobek247 only to PM people.  and you probably don't need to do that yet.08:21
Agent_bobbut that's not my choice, it's yours.08:21
ek247is this a help chat room08:21
Agent_bob!register | ek24708:21
ubottuek247: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.08:21
Agent_bobyes it is ek24708:21
ek247ok you all are administer08:22
ek247i'll be back08:22
Agent_bobek247 oh.  and welcome to ubuntu.08:22
viperserv2hmm i killed my raid08:23
viperserv2how do u mount sata hds?08:23
ek247is this for developers or individuals pls08:24
Agent_bobviperserv2 sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt    where 'a' is the disk and 1 is the partition   fdisk -l  will list them for you08:24
ek247ty bob08:24
Agent_bobek247 for both developers and normal user   to help each other with kubuntu issues.08:24
ek247ok08:25
ek247brb08:25
Agent_bob!kubuntu08:25
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE08:25
Jack3Agent_bob, i am an idiot08:26
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Jack3the drive that i set to have the bios boot first, is SDA1 not HDE108:27
Agent_bob:)     sorry   :)08:27
HeliosDoes anyone knows how can i install a virtual drive on my kubuntu so i can mount .iso or nrg images?08:27
HeliosDoes anyone know how can i install a virtual drive on my kubuntu so i can mount .iso or .nrg images?08:28
Agent_bobJack3 not to rub salt in an open wound   but if you don't answer my questions correctly,  i can't help you  :)08:28
ek247I am confused now cause i can't seem to find the registration08:28
Agent_bob!register | ek24708:29
ubottuek247: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.08:29
dalgohello all linux users :)08:29
ek247i am not a group or oganization08:29
LynoureHelios: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/yourmountpoint08:29
emonkeyHelios, with kiso you can mount an iso08:29
Agent_bobek247   /msg nickserv help register08:29
Agent_bob/msg nickserv help register08:30
Lynourebut gone now08:30
Agent_bobek247 ^ that will help you.08:30
Heliosthanks08:30
viperserv2hmm i unmounted md208:30
GothicD3vilhi08:30
dalgois in latest Kubuntu dvd includes Emerald Theme manager and is it work on kubuntu?08:30
GothicD3vilhow can i install a .deb file like limewire?08:31
ek247ok ill try08:31
Agent_bobLynoure i don't know if you caught my binary exit message    glad to hear that you got it streight with so simple of a command,   i did make a note  xrandr --auto08:31
nautBest tv client software?08:31
llutz!best | naut08:32
ubottunaut: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.08:32
shaffycan someone tell me how to run a scandisk/filesystem check on an external usb hd?08:32
xt828i don't suppose it's possible to upgrade from an x86 to x86_64 install?08:32
GothicD3vil!limewire08:32
ubottulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.08:32
kristian__hi08:33
Boyke_buntuplease anyone help me08:33
Boyke_buntui cannot startx with my account08:33
Boyke_buntuit says cannot write to /temp08:33
Agent_bobshaffy fdisk -l  to list the fs addressing   and    fsck /dev/<that address>08:33
Boyke_buntuwhat should i do?08:33
shaffyAgent_bob: thanks you :)08:34
Agent_bobshaffy example might look like:    sudo fsck /dev/sdb208:34
Boyke_buntuwhat should i do?08:34
llutzshaffy: make sure the drive isn't mountet08:34
Agent_bobor  sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdc1   or something.08:34
llutzd08:34
cahuezboyke, are you in console mode..?08:35
Boyke_buntuhowbout me?08:35
Boyke_buntuya08:35
Boyke_buntuno08:35
Boyke_buntuim using root08:35
Boyke_buntuand it start the x08:35
viperserv2anyone good with raid here?08:35
cahuezok..08:35
cahuezbut you started well a kde session right..?08:35
Boyke_buntuya08:36
Agent_bobBoyke_buntu    ls -l /tmp08:36
Helioshey i upgraded from kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 KDE4 Remix...08:36
Boyke_buntuyes08:36
Boyke_buntuand08:36
Agent_bobBoyke_buntu sorry   ls -ld /tmp   and show me.08:37
Boyke_buntuhow to show u?08:37
Heliosthe problem is that after i installed it... when i installed an application which requires the cd... it did not recognise my cd...08:37
Boyke_buntujust copy and paste?08:37
Helioscan anyone help me please?08:37
sirmike1970mdcan someone help  i stopped something in k and i cant get a internet connection08:37
Agent_bobit will only be one line08:37
Boyke_buntualot08:37
Agent_bobnot form    ls -ld /tmp08:38
Boyke_buntudrwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:17 139255085108:38
Boyke_buntutotal 2408:38
cahuezboyke, test it ls -ls /tmp in console ..08:38
Heliosi had to disable the cd rom repository to be able to install the packages...08:38
Agent_bobBoyke_buntu no. cahuez -ls ?   no    -ld08:38
Agent_bob  ls  -ld   /tmp08:38
cahuezyeap..08:39
Agent_bobone line of output form that  ^   i want to see it.08:39
cahuezmine> drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4096 2008-05-04 01:37 /tmp ..08:39
Agent_bobcahuez that's correct.08:39
shaffyAgent_bob: fdisk -l doesn't give me anything08:39
Agent_bobi'm thinking his is not.08:39
Boyke_buntudrwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:17 139255085108:39
Boyke_buntubash: drwx------: command not found08:39
cahuezhumm..!08:39
Agent_bobBoyke_buntu ok    sudo chmod 1777 /tmp08:40
Agent_bobthat should fix you08:40
Agent_bobshaffy   fdisk -l /dev/sd*08:40
dalgo<dalgo>is in latest Kubuntu dvd includes Emerald Theme manager and is it work on kubuntu?08:40
xt828is it possible to upgrade from an x86 to an AMD64 install?08:40
Agent_bobshaffy and it may spit out errors08:40
Boyke_buntudone08:41
Agent_bobxt828 upgrade  no.   reload yes08:41
cahuezxt828, you need a amd_64 distro as well..08:41
Boyke_buntucan i re login with my account?08:41
Agent_bobBoyke_buntu  just type   startx  to test it.08:41
Boyke_buntuok08:41
Boyke_buntuthanks08:41
shaffyAgent_bob: i used to use a command "blkid" and it use to spit out all the partitions and drives.  but it doesn't seem to work in 8.04?08:41
cahuezaroaroux..!08:41
Agent_bobor are you in X now ?08:41
xt828how do you mean 'reload'?  is there a walkthrough or something?08:42
Gokee2Why is xdmx here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+package/xdmx with packages but not in the repository?08:42
Agent_bobshaffy yes but i think you'll have to supply a switch to "reread" the disks with blkid      ?08:42
emonkeyI've got a problem, my knetmanager isn't anymore in the control list since the update to hardy, I see the pricess with ps -A|grep knet and it do not help if I kill it and start a new one. any suggestions?08:42
emonkeys/pricess/process/08:42
Agent_bobxt828 i mean reinstall.   there's not a supported way to upgrade from one architecture to another08:43
Choreboycan someone answer something for me... I want to install Kubuntu 8.04, is there a way to get i686 instead of i386?08:43
xt828Agent_bob: righto, so how could I do that while keeping my settings and suchlike?08:43
ccc4odd help plz08:44
Agent_bobChoreboy there's no i686 optimization  no.  it's generic i386 for all x86 versions08:44
ccc4how do i find ma usb in kubunto08:44
ChoreboyI could swear I read somewhere that there was... oh well.08:44
ccc4im a newbiee08:44
shaffyAgent_bob: after fdisk -l /dev/sd*, how do i know which is the one i want to fsck?  they are ambiguous.08:44
Agent_bobxt828 $HOME will not be affected if it's on a seperate partition08:44
xt828Agnet_bob: time to find out how to migrate /home to a seperate partition then08:45
Agent_bobshaffy umm size ?    partition type ?     use the command    mount  to see what's mounted where.08:45
xt828cheers08:45
boyke_buntuim back08:45
boyke_buntuim still cannot login with my accounts08:45
boyke_buntunow im using root08:45
sirmike1970mdi'm stuck by accident i closed something in my tray and now i cant connect to the net08:45
boyke_buntustill the same problem08:46
xt828sirmike1970md: i'm pretty sure you're connected to the net right now08:46
boyke_buntucannot write to /tmp08:46
Agent_bobxt828 cd / ; sudo tar -czvf my_home.tgz  /home    then store /my_home.tgz file anywhere08:46
ChoreboyIs there any reason I can't install Kubuntu on a XFS file system?08:46
sirmike1970mdsorry from my other comp08:46
Agent_bobxt828 but it may be big.08:46
Agent_bobChoreboy no.08:46
Choreboyok thanks08:47
Agent_bobboyke_buntu ok   lets see what you have mounted there.   mount | grep tmp08:47
boyke_buntuvarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)08:48
boyke_buntuvarlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)08:48
boyke_buntuudev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)08:48
boyke_buntudevshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)08:48
boyke_buntulrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)08:48
Agent_bobok.   i guess i should have used a /08:48
cahuezboyke, do a > whoami ..08:48
xt828Agent_bob: is there any reason that I can't just copy-paste everything from within Konquerer - I have showing hidden files and folders enabled08:49
Agent_bobboyke_buntu or     sudo echo boo08:49
boyke_buntuboo08:49
Agent_bobxt828 umm to where ?08:49
xt828to a ready partition08:49
Agent_bobboyke_buntu ok  and you did     sudo chmod 1777 /tmp08:50
Agent_bob?08:50
Agent_bobxt828 what fs ?08:50
xt828ext308:50
Agent_bobxt828 k   that's fine.08:50
Agent_bobxt828 you do know that /home != $HOME  /08:50
Agent_bob?08:51
Agent_bobi.e.  $HOME = ~ = /home/$USER   by default anyway08:51
Adapter48!seen catweazle08:51
ek247i keep get refefered back to group registration, i'm an idividual trying to get some help with my ubuntu08:51
viperserv2anyone here use mdamd?08:52
Agent_bobek247 so why register then ?   just suscently desctibe the issue you are having in here,  if anyone knows the information you need they will answer you.08:52
Agent_bobmdadm ?08:52
ek247do I have to use ok08:52
boyke_buntusorry08:53
viperserv2for raiding drives08:53
boyke_buntuagent bob i did sudo chmod 1777 /tmp08:53
Agent_bobboyke_buntu ok  lets see the results one more time of     ls -ld /tmp08:53
ek247well my ubuntu froze up when I installed a linux version of explorer08:53
boyke_buntudrwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:42 /tmp08:54
xt828Agnet_bob so if i set the home partition to be what i currently have mounted as /media/sda3 then my home path would be in /media/sda3/xt828 or /media/sda3/home/xt828 ?08:54
Agent_bobboyke_buntu ok that's correct now.   and   startx    still doesn't work for you?08:54
boyke_buntuno if im using ordinary accounts not my root08:54
Agent_bobthe former xt82808:54
Agent_bobthe current /media/sda3 will be mounted on /home so that anything in /media/sda3/  will then appear in /home/08:55
xt828Agent_bob, cheers, that's what i thought08:55
boyke_buntuit said must be check08:56
cstorstensonI hope this isn't rude, I'm kinda a n00b, but I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand getting screenlet manager to run in kubuntu 8.0608:56
boyke_buntu2 files08:56
Agent_bobboyke_buntu wait?    you can or can not login as normal user ?08:56
boyke_buntuyes08:56
Agent_bobyes can ?08:56
boyke_buntui can login08:56
boyke_buntubut i cannot start x\08:56
Agent_bobboyke_buntu but you can not as root ?08:56
boyke_buntubut i cannot start x08:56
ek247mil are you avail08:56
Agent_bobboyke_buntu is x already running ?08:56
boyke_buntuif im using root i can start x08:57
boyke_buntubut if im login as a normal user it said cannot write to /tmp08:57
ek247melkart r u avail.08:57
boyke_buntuand cannot start the x08:57
cstorstensonI mean 8.0408:58
ek247I AM SO LOST HERE???08:58
Agent_bobboyke_buntu ok.  try this.    sudo killall -9 X ;sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;sudo rm /tmp/* -r08:58
ek247CAN'T TELL WHO IS STAFF OR WHO IS PLAIN USER08:58
Agent_bobboyke_buntu then try   startx08:58
boyke_buntuok08:59
SSJ_GZek247: What's the problem?08:59
Agent_bobek247 most are user.08:59
boyke_buntuhow to change user?08:59
SSJ_GZek247: What does it matter who is staff and who are users?08:59
ek247your kiddingme!08:59
ek247bob08:59
Agent_bobek247 no he's not.08:59
cstorstensonnot trying to flood, but I could use some help getting screenlets manager working if anyone has experience.09:00
Agent_bobek247 you are new to opensource ?09:00
chisiyuan i need a lightweigh music player either of GUI or in command line. Anyone has an idea?09:00
ek247i gues i need 2 b programmer to b here09:00
SSJ_GZek247: Again, most people here are users.09:00
ek247yes 4 months new09:00
SSJ_GZek247: What problem are you having exactly?09:00
ek247well my other computer with ubuntu froze09:01
Agent_bobek247 my first question would be this.   did you get the system "unhung"  and my second question would be "why on earth are you trying to install 'explorer' in linux"    and my third question would be do you know anything about debian packages yet ?09:02
Agent_bob!apt | ek247 please read this09:02
ubottuek247 please read this: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)09:02
Agent_bob!Adept | ek247 following that.09:02
ubottuek247 following that.: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:02
ek247don't know what un hung means09:03
Agent_bobno longer "froze" as you put it.09:03
ek247know this is really my system and my friends system froze09:04
ek247she wanted to put IEon not me09:04
ek247I know linux and microsft don't get along09:05
xt828there's a linux version of IE?09:05
Agent_bobek247 there is also the possability that english may not be your first language,  if so you can check for a kubuntu help channel of your language with  !??  where ?? is the two letter country code   like this09:05
Agent_bob!es09:05
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:05
ek247I know about the adept manager09:05
ek247it's the techno terms that lose me that is all09:07
Jack3Agent_bob, i fixed it,. i am a huge idiot09:07
Agent_bobok.  just trying to help all i can.09:07
Jack3i had confused which physical drive i actually installed linux on lol09:07
Jack3i found out it was the maxtor 120gb09:07
Agent_bobJack3 welcome to the club.  but get in line, :)))09:07
Jack3so i made that master and everything and it works fine now09:07
ek247I appreciate all u helping09:07
Jack3thanks a lot for the help Agent_bob09:08
Agent_bobwelcome09:08
ek247just frustrated a little09:08
prince_jammysek247: describe in detail what you did, and what happened09:08
Agent_bobek247 understandable.   at least we don't make you talk to a recording to calm you down like some companies/orgenizations...09:08
ek247we have intall ubuntu 3 times09:09
prince_jammysek247: you installed something called IEs4Linux ?09:09
ek247I like ubuntu I do but my roomate doesn't09:09
ek247they won't spend the money for the windows09:10
Agent_bob    side note.  nothing i know of ticks me off more than an automated system calling my house late at night ...   "is this so and so <pause> i'm sorry i didn't understand you, is this so and so <pause> ok would you ask so and so to come to the phone <pause> "  and i haven't said even hello yet....     really ticks me off.    i refuse to talk to any machine.09:11
ek247I hate vista and anything microsoft related personally09:11
* Agent_bob likes ek247 already :)09:12
ek247feelings mutual09:12
ek247I really not techy but want to be09:13
ek247I wish linux had a school09:13
Agent_bobprince_jammys you here for a while ?   i have things i need to do.09:13
prince_jammysi'm off pretty soon09:14
Agent_bob;/09:14
prince_jammysit's late09:14
Agent_bobheh it's early09:14
ek247I would go so I could teach linux at regular school about linux09:14
prince_jammysit's getting so late over here, it's about to be early09:14
Agent_bobtz matters i guess.09:15
Agent_bobprince_jammys well maybe someone can fill in for us.  i'm out.09:16
Agent_bobshalom !09:16
prince_jammysbye09:16
ek247bob09:16
ek247jak09:17
ek247anybody09:17
ek247are we closing the channel09:17
xt828i'm not real skilled, but i might be able to help09:17
xt828what exactly is the problem?09:17
ek247well i told bob that I was tryin to get some help with seeing some images and hearing sound on the web page09:19
ek247it is not showingup09:19
ek247hi synergy09:20
ek247the flas won't install right09:20
Jack3does kubuntu come with compiz?09:20
ek247sure!!09:21
ek247I haven't installed it yet09:21
Jack3! compiz09:21
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:21
Jack3lol09:21
Jack3guess not09:21
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ek247yes compis09:22
morphius_I am getting the following error: "trying to create local folder //.kde/share: Permission denied"09:22
xt828ek247: so did you install the Kubuntu restricted extras and Macromedia Flash packages from within Add/Remove Programs?09:22
morphius_any idea how to resolve?09:22
ek247not the restricted no09:23
ek247first off I have ubuntu 8.0409:23
xt828the restricted extras includes the plugins for stuff like mp3 playback and flash09:23
xt828ubuntu or kubuntu?09:23
ek247ubuntu09:24
ek247its the new version09:24
xt828you know that this is the kubutnu channel, right?  #ubuntu deals more with ubuntu-specific stuff09:24
viperserv2how do u unraid?09:24
ek247oh, i feel stupid09:24
ek247sorry?09:25
viperserv2well your not the only linux n00b here hehe09:26
xt828what do you mean, unraid?09:26
Jack3are there any repositories for hardy?09:26
ek247so is this irc for regular people or developers09:26
ek247sure09:26
ek247there are?09:27
xt828this is the IRC for users of Kubuntu09:27
viperserv2both09:27
ek247I wish they gave you a list tof recomended software you need09:28
viperserv2if there was only dev in here without ops we would be helped by now hehe09:28
ek247my friend and I will probably reinstall09:29
xt828i don't know about ubuntu, but kubuntu comes with everything that you need that is under a free license09:29
ek247is kbuntu like kde desktop09:29
xt828it's essentially ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, iirc09:30
ek247what do you know about fedor809:30
xt828very little09:31
xt828in a practical sense09:31
ek247fedora 809:31
ek247oh?09:31
ek247we tryed it09:31
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holyguyver_If you are asking about fadora8 I would say you are in the wrong irc channel :p09:31
holyguyver_!off-toppic09:32
ubottuFactoid off-toppic not found09:32
ek247was to where are the other channels09:32
holyguyver_try #fadora09:32
ek247the channel directory09:32
xt828the fedora website would probably have some information on an irc channel you could use for help09:33
ek247thaks every one I am swichin to another channel to help with specific problem09:34
holyguyver_anyway my sound works fine, but my micraphone doesn't work, & I have tried to different working mics so it is obviously not the mics, so is there anything I can do since it must be on the chips side of things?09:35
holyguyver_Also what is the terminal cammand to show me what all of my hardware is?09:36
ere4silshw09:36
holyguyver_So here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/ anything to help me be able to record things with my mic?09:39
holyguyver_Also is my amount of ram good?09:41
wayneandleanneanybody got any ideas on enabling the second audio output on a asrock k7vt4a+ motherboard09:42
holyguyver_similar problem to me, but I need to figure out how to get mic input to work :p09:42
wayneandleannewhats the board09:43
holyguyver_I gerentie it is different from yours since I am on a 1998 gateway09:43
holyguyver_Here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/09:44
wayneandleanneholyguyver: check in kmix, when i installed kubuntu the mic ws muted and switched off in switches09:44
holyguyver_I already checked that & unmuted the mic a few days ago, & still nothing09:44
wayneandleannemic boost?09:45
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wayneandleannestupid question time, does the mic work?09:46
holyguyver_Yes, I even bought a brand new second mic & I tried them both in windows & they work09:46
holyguyver_As for mic boost, what is that?09:46
TeslaTonyDoes anyone know how to change the font size in the terminal (what you see when you type ctrl+alt+F1)?09:48
wayneandleannere: mic boost, it boost's your voice by 20 Db09:49
holyguyver_As I said how do I activate it?09:49
wayneandleannedoes the mic work in windows?09:49
wayneandleannesorry two secs09:49
holyguyver_I jyst said they both work in windows09:49
wayneandleannesorry multiple chats going on, geting confused09:50
holyguyver_I said "I tried them both in windows & they work"09:50
foormeahi09:50
holyguyver_O Okay :p09:50
carlhelo does anybody know how to set a static ip in kubuntu gutsy without network manager messing up09:50
carlfor wireless09:51
carlit works with dchp09:51
holyguyver_Yes I forgot to mention that I am on Gutsy as well.09:51
wayneandleanneright click on kmix and select show mixer windows, kmix will appear, select switches mic boost will be there09:51
holyguyver_just to let you know I am on xubuntu :p09:51
foormeamy kde system is in english. i need keyboard support for french and chinese. i don't know how i managed to get that but now i can switch english/french with ctrl-alt-K. problem is, french accents only work properly in a few programs... any idea how to fix that?    other problem: chinese: in some programs, such as xchat, i cannot switch to chinese input... any idea?!    (these keyboard layouts work fine under gnome)09:52
wayneandleannehmmmm xubuntu, gimme two secs09:52
holyguyver_I found it :)09:52
Jucatoholyguyver_: no help in #xubuntu ? :)09:52
holyguyver_same process with switches :p09:52
holyguyver_No help in xubuntu, but don't worry it worked the same :p09:52
holyguyver_I clicked on show switches & it was there :p09:53
holyguyver_Alright let me give it a try now :p09:53
wayneandleanneok, let me know either way,09:53
holyguyver_Nothing, just made the static louder :p09:54
holyguyver_I also tried both mic 1 & 2 switch & mix & mic switch in the switches09:56
wayneandleannehmm humor me, are the speakers and mic plugged in correctly??09:56
holyguyver_Yes silly :p09:56
holyguyver_I was actually listening to music right before testing this :p09:56
wayneandleanneok, just to rule that out09:57
holyguyver_Also my original question said "my speakers work fine, but I can't get my mics to work"09:57
wayneandleannetrue09:57
wayneandleannewhat sound system are you running?09:57
wayneandleanneoss, alsa ?09:58
holyguyver_What are you asking for? would you like me to give you my hardware again?09:58
holyguyver_Alsa09:58
wayneandleanneno this is a software thing, what were you playing music in?09:58
holyguyver_totem09:58
holyguyver_as said I am using alsa09:59
wayneandleannecheck if you can confgure alsa in totem09:59
wayneandleanneare we talking about 3.5 milli jack plug mic's?09:59
shaffydoes anyone know how to get the audio to work in 3gp video files?  (using any player)09:59
holyguyver_we are talking about ones that their blugs are like those of walkman headphones10:00
wayneandleanneye 3.5 mm,10:00
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wayneandleanneso that rules out usb-audio, is the xubuntu a live cd?10:01
holyguyver_Anyway I am trying to record in Audicity, shouldn't I try & see about configuring it in that?10:01
malik__i installed new kde4 kubuntu but i cant access my ntfs partitions .........can any1 help?10:01
holyguyver_No this is a full install10:01
TeslaTonyshaffy: Have you installed any of the medibuntu packages?10:02
droetker@shaffy:   i got it work with mplayer.10:02
droetkerbut i think not the ubuntu one, but the one from their homepage.10:02
holyguyver_I would hate to have been using a live CD for the past 2 weeks :p10:02
wayneandleannetry and grab a live cd, (bandwidth allowing) to test if something went wrong during install10:02
wayneandleanneno not are you running a live cd, did you install using a live cd10:03
holyguyver_Yes, I did install using a live CD10:03
casper__hey....is there a way of getting my gnome to look more like kde....withought actually installing kubuntu?10:03
cahuezcasper, switch between kde/gnome but, I like more kde stuff..10:04
hellhoundi have just upgraded to kubuntu hardy heron and noticed that on secondary windows (windows that open within an application such as setting preferences) that I get black on black so that I cannot see the text.  I know this is part of my theme, but I want to know how to change this while keeping my theme.  The text color are correct in all other places10:04
wayneandleannetry booting the live cd, to rule out a install problem10:04
holyguyver_I already did, & no, it doesn't work in the live CD either tragicly10:05
casper__i like it 2, but very use to my gnome, so want to give kde a try..what is the best approach?10:05
shaffyTeslaTony: i've installed only the kubuntu-restricted-extras10:05
shaffydroetker: do you know the steps you took to get it to work?10:05
holyguyver_Anyway I have tried using OSS too10:06
TeslaTonyshaffy: OK. Are you using 7.10 or 8.04?10:06
cahuezcasper, using right now kde..?10:06
wayneandleannethis has got me stumped, have you got a spare soundcard?10:06
shaffyTeslaTony: 8.0410:06
holyguyver_Well I showed you my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/10:06
cahuezcasper, did you come from gnome world..?10:07
casper__still in gnome world...just formatted into ubuntu heron10:07
TeslaTonyshaffy: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu10:07
wayneandleanneye,  ive just re read your specs, can you beg / steal another soundcard  just to rule out that your Ensoniq card doesnt work underl linux10:08
cahuezcool casper, then..10:08
holyguyver_But if it didn't work under linux then wouldn't I not get sound either?10:08
cahuezwhen you start ubuntu, is there at login screen some options just to select another desktop environment..?10:09
cahuezyou know, i do kubuntu as well..!10:09
holyguyver_Also as stated all of my hardwhere (except my DVD drive) is from 1998.10:09
TeslaTonyshaffy: Once you've enabled the repositories, there's a package or two to install, which I'm trying to find10:10
holyguyver_Also I do not know anything about soddering on microchips so I wouldn't know how to change soundcards anyway10:10
casper__yes there is....i have tried the sudo apt instal kubuntu method, then choose kde as my defualt session, but there were soo many program, i got scared, tried unistall kde, but it left all the programs, so formatted, but i want to try it again10:11
wayneandleanneif your Ensoniq sound card is built into your motherboard if you were to insert a pci sound card your pc's bios would diasable the bult in10:11
casper__am i the only one scared of kde ?10:12
wayneandleannedo you have anyother pc's in the house?10:12
holyguyver_I don't know the first thing about PCI, but as I said if my sound works doesn't that mean that my 10 year old sound card works?10:13
cahuezlet me check casper...10:13
cahuezyour distro is kde enclosed, is kubuntu..?10:13
holyguyver_Yes I do have other PC's but all of their soundcards are built in to their motherbords too as it is a 1995 (one before this one)10:13
wayneandleannemaybe, maybe not. some hardware is known to be stubon, can you beg / borrow a sound card from a mate?10:14
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ChoreboyCan you install Kubuntu 8.04 with LILO from the liveCD?10:14
ChoreboyI want to use XFS instead of EXT3 and it recommends LILO instead of GRUB10:15
holyguyver_Sure, here I go, mayeandleanne , do you have a soundcard, a pci one that I can barrow? also can you come to Arizona & install it for me?10:15
wayneandleanneinstaling it is the easy bit, i will find a document that you can print to walk you through installing the soundcard if you can get one?10:16
holyguyver_well can you give me yours?10:16
holyguyver_Honostly I have no friends10:17
holyguyver_plus as said my sound card works10:17
Choreboyanyone? Lilo? yes?10:17
holyguyver_choreboy I have never gotten lilo to work10:17
Choreboyugh bogus.10:18
ChoreboyWell can I still use GRUB then? It says GRUB hangs when you install on XFS10:18
wayneandleannenot a chance!!, are you anywere near arizona state university?10:18
Choreboymoi?10:19
MrBogushello10:19
Choreboyif by Arizona State University you mean Tampa, FL then yes.10:19
MrBogusi installed ubuntu but i only got in console mode10:19
MrBogusany help? thanks10:19
wayneandleanneholyguyver_: are you anywere near arizona state universitity?10:20
holyguyver_No, I am in Northern Arizona in the town of Chino Valley near the town of Prescott10:22
holyguyver_& I have no friends10:23
holyguyver_As said this computer is 10 years old though & if the sound out works then surely there must be some way to get the sound in to work too10:23
wayneandleannegoogle to see if any linux user groups are near you, see if you can take the pc to them to see if they can help ( i cant dig around in your configuration from the uk!10:25
holyguyver_understandable :p10:25
holyguyver_But what if I want to yahoo the query insted though?10:26
holyguyver_or how about if I want to do a web search engine search for it?10:26
wayneandleanneunless you want a large bill from ups !!!, sure use yahoo if you want10:26
pascalFRping10:26
wayneandleanneit's your choice10:26
holyguyver_Anyway thanks :)10:27
wayneandleannesorry i couldnet help resolve this one10:28
wayneandleannetype10:28
holyguyver_Hey we can't fix all of the worlds problems, & this is such a miner one :p10:28
holyguyver_Plus if I really want to record badly I can just restart my computer & boot into windows since I am dual-booting :p10:29
wayneandleannetrue, but bloody anoying10:29
holyguyver_Yes I agree10:29
holyguyver_But my scanners, I own 3 of them & none of them suply linux drivers & the linux scanner driver project has been unable to crack them either, so when I need to scan something I need to boot into windows anyway :p10:30
wayneandleannetrust me i know how anoying it is having no mic, ever try'd having a voice chat in secondlife without a working mic !!!!!!!10:30
holyguyver_no, because I don't play video games :p10:30
holyguyver_I don't even play card games :p10:31
holyguyver_The closest thing I have to a game is GIMP :p10:31
wayneandleannethink about it!, no mic in a voice chat10:31
holyguyver_Yes I know10:32
khajxHi..10:32
wayneandleanneso what do you do on your pc all day long then?10:32
khajxcan anyone help with finding a good dock for kubuntu?10:32
holyguyver_I use OO.o write, & OO.o draw, & GIMP, & listen to music, & chat on message forums & Bulliton Boards & partisipate in a fe newsgroups & mailing lists.10:33
ere4siholyguyver_: have you tried typing alsamixer in a konsole and using the right arrrow to see all options?10:33
holyguyver_nope, trying that now10:34
wayneandleanneere4si: never thought of that, durgh10:34
holyguyver_I already had all of those options in the xubuntu sound gui10:35
cahuezhello to all.."10:35
cahuezhumm, i need some help just to install> http://sheltermanager.sourceforge.net/linux_deb.php ..!10:36
cahuezjust give it a check, please..10:36
ere4siholyguyver_: I have a mic boost option in mine - your card might not support it tho10:37
holyguyver_As you can see wayneandleanne my computer use is like office use :p even though it is a home computer. I have just never been one for games.10:37
holyguyver_As I said I also have a mic boost option in mine & I tried it & it only made the static louder10:38
wayneandleannehmmm, still thinking#10:39
cahuezapt-getting sinaptic...10:39
shankygood morning10:39
shankyI have just installed kubuntu-hardy-kde410:40
shankyduring installation or livecd, x works great10:40
wayneandleannenope sorry i'm stumped10:41
shankybut after installation at hte first boot I can't start x10:41
shankyI get a "No screens found" error messages10:41
shankyis there any command line x setup tool?10:41
ere4sishanky: do you get a login?10:41
ere4sishanky: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:42
holyguyver_As said Wayne you really don't need to worry about it, I will just boot into winXP10:42
wayneandleanneok10:42
holyguyver_I will however do a web search (I prefer yahoo) for getting my soundcards mic input to work ;)10:43
wayneandleannekk10:43
shankyere4si: I get the same error after dpkg-reconfigure10:43
wayneandleannemay  i sugest google.com/linux10:43
holyguyver_Sure :p10:43
holyguyver_I will try that :p10:44
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hluowho10:45
ere4sishanky: can you do  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and paste what is in the screen section?10:45
the-ermAnyone in here run php in cli on this channel?10:47
the-ermscript.php& isn't working any more, and I'm wondering what changed.10:47
the-ermIt basically just exits.10:47
khajxcan anyone help with finding a good dock for kubuntu? and how to add shortcuts to the desktop (hh8.04+kde4)10:47
ere4si!dock10:47
ubottuFactoid dock not found10:47
ere4si!kiba-dock10:48
ubottuFactoid kiba-dock not found10:48
malik_how do i make kubuntu show my ntfs partitions coz i cant see em its giving errors when i try to click on it n also they are absent in /etc/fstab10:48
ere4sikhajx: try kiba dock and right click the desktop to add shortcuts10:48
holyguyver_!unotu10:49
ubottuFactoid unotu not found10:49
holyguyver_!ubotu10:49
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)10:49
ere4sishanky: when you did the dpkg xserver what did you select for the vid card driver?10:50
khajxere4si: is kiba dock stable on kubuntu? and do i need something else to use it? its a fresh installed copy.. one more thing, i got add widgets when i right click the desktop, and i tried to add icons but i cant make it a shortcut...10:51
malik_!ntfs partitions10:51
ubottuFactoid ntfs partitions not found10:51
shankyere4si: nop10:51
shankyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9944/10:51
ere4sishanky: do the dpkg again and select  vesa  for the vid card driver10:52
shankyere4si: but, it did not aske me the driver10:53
shankyit just asked me to use framebuffer or not, and keyboard settings10:53
ere4sishanky: forgot that hardy was a barstard like that - don't know how to get around that yet - sorry10:55
faisalhi all, i just installed kubuntu, i hvae downloaded some packages from cnr.com. Plese let me know how to install them?10:55
shankywhat I can't understand it is why during installation, or using live-cd works fine10:56
shankyere4si: using xorg.failsafe it looks to work10:57
ere4sikhajx: shanky great10:58
ere4sikhajx: nothing about a shortcut when you right click the desktop?10:58
ere4sioops10:58
khajxere4si: lol, no10:58
khajxso less user-friendly then ubuntu..10:59
ere4sikhajx: is it kde3 kubuntu or kde4?10:59
khajxkde411:00
ere4sikhajx: try in #kubuntu-kde4 - I don't use it11:00
khajxi downloaded the latest kde4 remix release..11:00
khajxok11:00
khajxThanks11:00
khajxere4si ^11:00
ere4sinp11:00
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khartahkhi there11:19
khartahkcan anyone here help me to change mime type icons in kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix version11:20
ccoffeyHi all.11:23
khartahkhi11:24
ccoffeyI'm having an issue upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. The kernel doesn;t want to install. here's the pastbin: http://pastebin.com/m1603ad6511:24
ccoffeyjust wondering if it's a common error11:24
khartahksorry, I don't know11:26
ccoffeyok, no problem. thanks for looking11:26
Pennycookccoffey: Have you tried following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu11:32
xt828what's the command to force the package system to recheck itself again?11:33
jimHey what program do i use to open .bin files ?11:34
jimi am trying to install realplayer for linux ! i have downloaded it from the site but i cant open it for some reason11:34
ccoffeyjim: vlc should play them11:35
jimwhat a vlc >11:35
jim?11:35
ccoffeyPennycook: Yup. but  i did a google now and found a thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671796 , hopefully some luck there11:35
ccoffeyjim: or mplayer. vlc is videolan.org, a fairly fantastic media player11:36
jimah ok11:37
ccoffeyjim: should be able to just sudo aptitude install vlc, if not let me know11:37
jimreason why i am chosing realplayer is becuase i am trying to listen to HHUK  Rave music from the website but it only wants windows media or realplayer ! that why11:37
Dr_willisI thought gmplayer, or vlc with the right plugins/browserplugins could play realplayer11:38
Dr_willislast i heard the official 'realplayer' linux binaries - where total.. well... doo doo. :)11:39
ccoffeyDr_willis: afiak not all the realaudio stuff but i could be wrong11:39
Dr_willisYour Mileage may vary. :)11:39
jimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/9950/11:39
viperserv2anyway u can un raid raid1?11:39
Dr_willisRealplayer REALLY dropped the ball.. they were the BIG name.. and now look at them. :)11:40
ccoffeyDr_willis: actually thinking a bit hardeer now i think i am wrong, remember having a lot of success with kaffeine a few months back11:40
ccoffeyviperserv2: without data loss?11:40
viperserv2well aslong as the os is ok11:40
ccoffeyviperserv2: is it linux software raid?11:41
viperserv2/dev/sdb1 * 1 392 3148708+ fd Linux raid autodetect11:41
viperserv2/dev/sdb2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect11:41
viperserv2/dev/sda1 * 1 392 3148708+ fd Linux raid autodetect11:41
viperserv2/dev/sda2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect11:41
viperserv2it might be hardware11:42
ccoffeyviperserv2: I's day you possibly could. I've done it under solaris software raid, but that's no comparisson really. Is there much on google? I's day someone has tried. Can you expieriment?11:43
viperserv2well google teaches how to raid11:43
ccoffeyls -l /dev/mapper. anything in there?11:43
viperserv2total 011:44
viperserv2crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 63 2008-05-04 05:09 control11:44
ccoffeyhmmm, do a lspci and see if there is any raid sounding devices there11:45
ccoffeyjim: something else is using apt. is there any packmanagers open?11:46
viperserv2v 01)11:47
viperserv200:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Co11:47
viperserv2i goes it's either bios or software11:48
ccoffeyviperserv2: i think that's just a standard sata chipset. i could be wrong.11:49
ccoffeywhat's is / mounted from?11:49
viperserv2root11:50
viperserv2/dev/md1 3.0G 573M 2.3G 20% /11:51
blekoshello could u tell me the command to check if my nvidia is enabled?11:51
ccoffeyblekos: as in the gpu?11:52
malik_what should i put in my fastab file so that i can access my ntfs partitions in kubuntu 8.04 kde4 so that i can acess em?11:52
viperserv2there a md2 that i unmounted11:52
ccoffeyviperserv2: I think that is software raid. do a lsmod | grep -i mdadm11:52
blekosyes11:53
mefisto__can I mount a hard disk formatted in TinyUDF (from a digital TV recorder) with kubuntu? Has anyone here tried?11:53
Dr_willisI always remove the 'nologo' option that Ubuntu for some odd reason loves to put in the xorg.conf file. That way when i start X - i See the nice nvidia logo and Know the driver is working. :)11:53
viperserv2root@ns356979:/# lsmod | grep -i mdadm11:53
viperserv2Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory11:53
ccoffeyblekos: loomk at your .etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver it is using, it';; be nv or nvidia. the latter is the non free driver blob11:53
viperserv2hmm says that dir isn't there11:54
Dr_willismefisto__,  totally depends on what file system it is.. Ive never heard of TinyUDF. - I thought UDF was a dvd rom filesystem - you could always try mounting it manually with the udf filesystem11:54
malik_Jucato: u there mate?11:54
tomekghi all I have a problem with compiz fusion in Kubuntu 8.0411:55
ccoffeyviperserv2: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-05-04 11:54 /proc/modules11:55
tomekganobydy wishes to help me?11:55
Dr_willisstate the exact problem and lets see11:55
tomekgok11:55
xt828i need to reconfigure my apt or dpkg11:55
malik_what should i put in my fastab file so that i can access my ntfs partitions in kubuntu 8.04 kde4 so that i can acess em? can any help me there?11:56
ccoffeymalik_: do you want read write supprt?11:56
Dr_willis /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 011:57
Dr_willis            <------------- example entry from my servers fstab11:57
viperserv2now it's saying command not found11:57
mefisto__Dr_willis: tinyUDF is, as far as I can tell, based on UDF. < http://www.storagelabs.com/products/tinyudf/ > I don't have the disk yet, considering buying a DVR that uses this filesystem, hoping I can get to the files with kubuntu11:57
Dr_willisOr you can use the uuid or label.              LABEL="XPBoot" /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 011:57
viperserv2command-not-found: error: no such option: --r--r--r--11:57
viperserv2-bash: --r--r--r--: command not found11:57
Dr_willismefisto__,  i would do some researching befor spending too much ##11:58
Dr_willisviperserv2,  that was not a command to run.11:58
Dr_willisit was the output from the ls command. :)11:58
ccoffeyviperserv2: that's was just the ls -l of my /proc modules, not a command. i was getting worried for you there. do you have the file /proc/modules?11:58
tomekgI read many faqs and tutorials about compiz, and they didnt work until last - uninstalling all compiz and isntalling new one. Some effects works fine (i.e. windows animation) but Desktop Cube and many other doesn't work. Besides the ccsm doesn't show any picture off plugins... (nude ccsm).11:58
viperserv2theres no module dir there11:59
ccoffeyviperserv2: it's a file in /proc, not a dir. you should be able to cat it11:59
malik_ccoffey: yes i have that installed or atleast it is showing me in adept that i have its just that fstab is missing all my ntfs partitions12:00
Dr_willistomekg,  compiz and ccsm can be buggy. Its working very well under Feisty here.12:00
malik_ccoffey: i guess thats what happens when u install bleeding edge distro12:00
viperserv2nothing12:00
viperserv2there is a mdstat tho12:00
ccoffeymalik_: you'll have to construct it by hand. it's not too hard.12:00
ccoffeymalik_: use file -s on your /dev/sd?? to find the ntfs partitions, and then add them  to your fstab. don't forget to make the mount pint12:01
malik_ccoffey: i know its just i dont know how to set up read write permissions for all the users12:01
ccoffeys/pint/point12:01
blekoscan i chanbe the hz of my screen from to 50 to 60? also i see that my nvidia driver is installed and in use. But in the monitor settings the driver is: standard and greyed out12:02
ccoffeyblekos: is  it a tft?12:02
tomekgthanks Dr_wills. I rember it work well on 7.10. That's why I asked12:02
blekosit is a laptop12:02
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blekosdell 153012:02
ccoffeyblekos: i don't think there a need for 60hz on a tft panel. it's not like a crt.12:03
blekosi c12:03
tomekgI have one more question - how can I change a resolution of text mode (terminal) in Ctrl+Alt+F1 screen12:03
tomekgI just want to see more text12:03
llutzblekos: set "DynamicTwinView" "false" and it will report  60 or 75Hz, its a bug in nvidia-drivers, don't worry12:04
Dr_willistomekg,  enable the framebuffer support, and set a vga=MODE that you like in the menu.lst file12:04
llutzblekos: even if it reports 50Hz, it will use the correct freq12:04
francesco!it12:04
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:04
kaminixHello, I'm trying to install proftpd. Anyone who can help me set it up?12:04
blekosaa ok12:04
tomekgmenu.lst file - where can I found this?12:04
mefisto__Dr_willis: how do you enable framebuffer support?12:05
viperserv2hmm i know mdadm is what made this raid1 i think12:05
viperserv2should i just kill the partition and make new one?12:05
ccoffeytomekg: it's in /boot/grub12:05
tomekgthanks12:06
Dr_willis!framebuffer12:07
ubottuInformation about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub12:07
ccoffeyviperserv2: if it's not critical, you could just change the mount points in your fstab to the single disks rather than the mirror. i.e. from /dev/md1 to /dev/sda1 anf see what happens. have a live disk nearby to rescue it though!12:07
ccoffeyviperserv2: Not sure if it'll work with mdadm but i've done it on other distros12:08
viperserv2saying permission denied12:10
ccoffeyyou need to do it as root.12:11
viperserv2i am12:11
ccoffeyyou have the potential to really screw things up though, sounless you are comfortable with recovery/reintsalling i wouldn't try it.12:11
ccoffeywhat command gave you permission denied?12:12
kaminixIs there any simple way to make .-folders unavailable via the proftpd-server?12:12
lidyahoj12:14
viperserv2./dev/md1 to /dev/sda112:15
odinsbanegood morning.  I am trying to install kde3.?? and I am wondering what is the name of the package I should install. (ubuntu hardy heron)12:22
neo_kde312:22
neo_kde12:22
neo_kde12:22
neo_apt-get install kde12:22
stdinodinsbane: kubuntu-desktop is the preferred package12:23
odinsbaneIll try this for now.  I might reinstall ubuntu for kubuntu.12:24
dentukhello12:25
viperserv2i wish i could reinstall my ubuntu box12:25
viperserv2but its 4k miles away12:25
dentukI installed python-qt4-doc but I don't know how to read the documentation now...12:28
dentukcould someone help me ?12:28
JackWinteris there a newsreader for kontakt?12:28
viperserv2hmm where was ssd at again?12:29
viperserv2sshd12:29
JackWinternever mind found it myself.  called knode ;)12:32
viperserv2i found sshd also12:35
MarcoPauI see there's no more xmms in the hardy repos, except for this xmms2 which seems to be text only...  what shall we use as a sober music player?12:35
Dr_willisfire up the package manager and look at all the other media players.12:40
Dr_willisxmms2 has several gui front ends.12:40
pavsI forgot the word, but what are hidden features/pranks in software called?12:42
Dr_willis Easter Eggs ?12:42
pavsthanks12:42
pavs:)12:42
stdinapt-get moo12:42
stdin^that's a famous one12:42
pavsI know thanku very much it was killing me :)12:42
Dr_willisi recall some abussive option somewhere also12:42
viperserv2hmm is there something i should put befor this?12:42
viperserv2./dev/md1 to /dev/sda112:42
pavsI just couldnt remember it12:42
Dr_willisviperserv2,  what are you trying to do exactly?12:43
Dr_willisIf thats a bash command.. it meaningless.12:43
Dr_willis:)12:43
viperserv2changed a raid1 into normal hds12:43
Dr_willisYou mean 'convert' or 'delete' or  what exactly?12:44
viperserv2convert would be best12:44
Dr_willisi would backup stuff from the raid system to another location, for the safest way.12:44
viperserv2well the only thing on it is the os mostly12:45
Dr_willisIf theres no imporntant data.. whipe it out. :)12:45
Dr_willisyou could backup your /etc/ configs I guess.12:45
MarcoPauDr_willis: I'm also here :)12:45
Dr_willisMarcoPau,  you stalker!12:45
Dr_willis:P12:45
MarcoPauLOL12:46
viperserv2aright12:46
MarcoPauI'm sorry for xmms, I think I used it for some ages, and actually had no problem with it.  is there anything similar to it for kde?12:47
Dr_willisThres literally DOZENS of media players for songs under linux...12:48
Dr_willisamarok is popular  :)12:48
Dr_willisbmpx,   mpd, others.. depends on your needs12:48
MarcoPauyeah I know there are a bunch of them, and I tried already a few, but can't find anything as essential as xmms12:48
anoblehelllo12:49
viperserv2when i convert it will destroy the os?12:49
MarcoPausmall, light, to be put on the corner12:49
anoblehey do all security tools like Nessus work on Kubuntu?12:49
Dr_willisIn theory - yes12:51
anobleok, shound i get gnome?12:51
viperserv2hmm same with converting raid1 to raid0?12:51
anobleDr_willis: should i get Gnome?12:52
Dr_willisconvert is a vague term. :)12:52
Dr_willisanoble,  i dont know.. do you want gnome?12:52
MarcoPauDr_willis: amarok is definitely huge according to my use12:52
Lynoureanoble: there is no should, you can have it on side by side with kde if you are curious about it12:52
anobleDr_willis: yes, only reason im using Kubuntu is bec it reads the graphics card, and Ubuntu Doesnt12:52
Dr_willisMarcoPau,  then fire up the package manager and try out others.12:52
anobleDr_willis: *i think it does12:53
Dr_willisanoble,  kubuntu and ubuntu both use the identical core. There should be no differeance in the graphics card.12:53
anobleDr_willis: lol well Ubuntu wont go over 800x60012:53
Dr_willisIf you want gnome then install it. :)  install 'ubuntu-desktop'  for the full gnome/ubuntu  system12:53
BobDHI need instructions for installing Creative Soundcard XFi 32/64 drivers. I have the tar file downloaded from Creative.12:53
MarcoPauDr_willis: also bmpx is enormous. all I want is a small player that can fit in the little free corner on my desktop, on top of kvirc12:53
Dr_willisanoble,  compare the xorg.conf files perhaps. There should not be any differances.12:53
MarcoPauDr_willis: if you know anthing that can look like that, please let me know12:54
viperserv2i think ill take the gamble12:54
Dr_willisMarcoPau,  go explore the  package manager..........12:54
Dr_willisMarcoPau,  or use a command line tool. :)12:54
anobleDr_willis: well Ubuntu is gone from this computer, im running Ubuntu on one computer and Kubuntu on this one12:54
Dr_willisanoble,  i normally install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop on all my machines.12:54
MarcoPauDr_willis: well that I'm not really into, althou I used quite often the -e (enqueue) option from xmms command line12:55
MarcoPauwhen hacking in the shell12:55
Dr_willisMarcoPau,  you might want to check out mpd, or the other features of xmms2  if you want to controll the player with scripts.12:55
Dr_willisother players may even have similer or identical features. I tend to 'play all, random' and let them play for hours on end.12:56
Dr_willis!info mpd12:56
ubottumpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.1-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 143 kB, installed size 428 kB12:56
viperserv2./dev/md1 to /dev/sda112:57
viperserv2oh12:57
viperserv2mkfs /dev/md1 to /dev/sda112:57
viperserv2that didn't work either12:58
Dr_willisviperserv2,  those are jibberish command line commands...12:58
MarcoPauDr_willis: it seems to be a small little thing. I'll try that out, hope it can play flac and other crap like that12:58
Dr_willisif you want to format sda1 then you mkfs /dev/sda112:58
pavsoff-topic anyone knows the originality of apt-get moo?12:58
Dr_willisIve got no idea wher eyou got this '/dev/md1 to /dev/sda1' being a command from. :)12:59
viperserv2ccoffey12:59
Dr_willisI would bet you misunderstood what he said.13:00
stdinpavs: bored developers I'd guess13:00
Dr_willis<ccoffey> viperserv2: if it's not critical, you could just change the mount points in your fstab to the single disks rather than the mirror. i.e. from /dev/md1 to /dev/sda1 anf see what happens. have a live disk nearby to rescue it though!13:00
viperserv2ah13:00
Dr_willis You change the lines IN the fstab file to change the device mounted... this is not converting the drives at all13:00
Dr_willisthats just changing the mount point/info13:01
Dr_willis!mount13:01
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter13:01
viperserv2it refused to format13:01
Dr_williswhat was the exact command you used?13:01
viperserv2.mkfs /dev/sda113:02
Dr_willisYou could just delete the partitions on sda1 and other sd## disks  that are in the raid and reboot and restart the installer13:02
viperserv2that hd is there13:02
Dr_willisYou just have 1 hd?13:02
pavsstdin makes sense ;)13:02
viperserv2213:02
Dr_willisviperserv2,  also think.. :) if formating a disk.. thats a big system task.. so you will want to use 'sudo' to do it as the root user.13:03
Dr_willissudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda113:03
Dr_willisfor example.13:03
Dr_willisBe sure you want to get rid of sda1... that will whipe it out13:03
viperserv2/dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!13:04
Dr_williswell it would be best to not try to format the disk you are running the system from. :)13:04
viperserv2yeah i only have ssh access13:04
Dr_willisviperserv2,  You may manage to totally screw things up then... and make the system unbootable.. How are you goign to reinstall?13:05
viperserv2would have to get someone from the data center todo that13:05
Dr_willisviperserv2,  so.. whats the point of all this then?   have them reinstall, and l the raid when they install.13:06
Dr_willisand disable the raid.. i mean..13:06
viperserv2ah thats the only way then13:07
Dr_willisall you are going to manage to do is trash the system.13:07
viperserv2yeah too bad they have it raid1 instead of 013:07
Dr_willisI dont even mess with raid any more. It wasent worth the hassle.13:08
viperserv2no u don't need raid unless u need to ul stuff at 1gbits or more13:08
Dr_willisi was testing it out for 'game speed boosts' :)13:09
viperserv2or that13:09
Dr_willisfaster loading and so forth. - wasent worth the effort.13:09
viperserv2games load faster13:09
Dr_willismany of the newer games.. have done some major optmizing in that area. Bioshock could load faster.. but givben the size/details of the levels.. it was ent too bad.13:10
Dr_willismost of the MMORPGS i play - you dont even notice the loading any more13:10
viperserv2hmm what mmo r u able to run on ubuntu?13:10
rdwhi folks. what about java 6 support for amd64?13:10
Dr_willisviperserv2,  i dont. :) but many of them do work with Wine13:11
ealxciao a tutti13:11
viperserv2whats the command for system specs?13:12
ealxsapreste dirmi se è possibil fare in modo che le icone del system tray siano visualizzabili in più righe13:12
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ealxrisparmiando spazio del pannello13:13
stdin!it13:13
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!13:13
rdwwhat about java 6 support for amd64?13:13
stdinrdw: what about it?13:14
rdwhow do i upgrade some package in kubuntu 7.10?13:15
rdwbuild Blackdown-1.4.2-0213:15
Dr_willissudo apt-get update   then sudo apt-get upgrade      for the latest from the repos13:15
Dr_willisif its not in the repos.. use the source.13:15
rdwrepos is old stuff13:21
Dr_willisThats often the case13:22
Dr_willisone of the problems with 6 mo release cycles.13:22
stdinactually 6 was recently updated13:22
Dr_willisi never use the blackdown java.. since a lot of apps dont like it.13:24
corbanis it possible for a hdd without an active parition not to be picked up by the bios13:24
stdinyou can try the icedtea-java7-* packages too, but they are slightly less complete atm13:24
corbana sata drive13:24
Dr_williscorban,  i wouldent think so.13:24
Dr_willisthe bios menus should show it no matter what.13:24
Dr_willisunless the power is unplugged, or sata cable is loose. or somting like that.13:24
stdinbios just detects hardware, not partitions13:24
corbanwierd13:25
rdwok here's the deal -  i had it installed. i only didn't know about update-java-alternatives command!13:25
corbancoz i have a SATA hdd in another computer and after i had plugged i a master IDE drive and unplugged tge master IDE hdd it's no longer detected as a primary hdd13:25
corbanany ideas13:26
corbanthis computer i'm working on no matter if you set it to boot only from the HDD it tries to boot from CD/DVD13:27
ubuntu__Ubuntu smell shit, archlinux is the  Best13:27
Jucato!language | ubuntu__13:28
ubottuubuntu__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:28
asdfehey Jucato, icecruncher here13:29
Jucatohi13:29
* Jucato has to go afk in a while13:29
stdinubuntu__: if you don't like ubuntu, then /part13:30
Jucatooh good stdin's here13:30
Jucatoafk now :)13:30
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flexibleubuntu is for babies13:31
stdinI guess he should know..13:32
Jucatobuhbye :)13:32
viperserv2anyone get freens working befor?13:33
LhademmorQUESTION: Can somebody tell me what I need to do to get either Konqueror or Firefox to enter this page: https://www.netbank.nordea.dk/netbank/index.jsp and display a login box correctly?13:39
nico_.13:41
nico_hello everyone13:42
* JoshOvki is either too suspisious or correct that the above link just doesnt seem right13:43
LhademmorJoshOvki - what do you mean?13:43
JoshOvkijust looks like the sort of thing you get in a phishing email13:43
LhademmorIt's my online bank!13:43
LhademmorOr rather "my bank, online"13:44
mefisto__Lhademmor: do you have java installed? Firefox asked to confirm if I want to run the java on that page. then when I said yes and refreshed the page, the login boxes are there13:44
LhademmorYes, I think that I have java installed, at least with Firefox 3.013:45
JoshOvkiLhademmor: im too suspisious then ;)13:45
LhademmorI installed Firefox 2, and now it suddenly asked me to install JRE, which I'm trying to do from suns homepage now13:45
nonewmsgssudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop13:45
nonewmsgslhandemmor jre is in synaptic13:46
Lhademmornonewmsgs: Weird...13:47
LhademmorSynaptic states that I have both sunjava5-jre AND sun-java6-jre installed...13:48
nonewmsgslhademmor maybe uninstall 5?13:48
nonewmsgsi just have jre6 and everything is working properly13:48
Jurgentjeyeah, well... Firefox doesn't really gets its info from apt... apparently it creates its own info13:48
JucatoFirefox needs sun-java6-plugin13:48
JoshOvkieven after java is installed dont you then need to install the plugin for ff?13:48
nonewmsgsoh josh0vki is right13:48
nonewmsgsyou need that too13:49
nonewmsgssorry i just woke up13:49
LhademmorJucato, I have that one too...13:49
nonewmsgsalso jucato was right too13:49
JucatoLhademmor: what does "about:plugin" in Firefox say?13:49
Jucato(if you're using Firefox 3 beta, I'm not sure if it works)13:50
Lhademmornonewmsgs, unfortunately I need Java 5 in order to get Oracle's JDeveloper working. But that's something else13:50
LhademmorJucato, in Firefox 2 it says that the URL is not valid and couldn't be loaded...13:51
Jucatoer.. about:plugins I think13:51
sacha_yeah it is pluginS13:51
JoshOvkiLhademmor: you using FF2 or FF3?13:52
Lhademmorjucato, I've got Shockwave Flash installed - it says13:52
Jucatowe're looking for Java :)13:52
LhademmorJucato, nothing13:52
LhademmorJoshOvki, I was using FF3, but then I only got a grey box at the abovementioned link. In FF2 I at least get a request to install additional plugins13:53
Jucatoweird...13:53
mefisto__I'm using FF3 beta 5 on hardy, and I can see the login (after reloading the page)13:53
LhademmorI guess you're all running KDE,  right?13:54
nonewmsgsi runs em all13:54
LhademmorI'm removing java5 now13:54
nonewmsgshow do you set kmail to check for new mail every x minutes?13:55
x-X-xi used firestarter on ubuntu gnome, can anyone reccomend me a good firewall manager like firestarter for kde or qt ?13:56
LhademmorIn FF3, the statusbar tells me "Applet com.ibm.cbt.thinclient.netbank.LogonApplet started" but I 0only get a grey box13:56
x-X-xanyone can help me ? ^13:57
stdinx-X-x: try guarddog13:57
Jucatononewmsgs: Settings -> Configure -> Accounts (forgot the exact name) -> Receiving tab -> Modify the account and set the fetch interval13:57
x-X-xstdin = god13:58
x-X-xthnx man exactly what i was looking for13:58
stdinI don't want to be god, too many people asking you for things ;P13:58
Jucato(or you can keep on using firestarter if that's what you prefer or if that works better for you :D)13:58
x-X-xlol13:58
nonewmsgsjudcato i dont havea  recieving tab??13:59
LhademmorNobody's able to help...?13:59
x-X-xjucato yeh but i wanted to have something which integrated better with kde13:59
x-X-xfirestarter was easier than abc to use but i want to try something else13:59
nonewmsgsoh there it is13:59
cbrhello, my Kubuntu Intrepid fails to start X server, the logs say it can't find the FIXED font13:59
cbrwhat's going on?14:00
nonewmsgsthanks jucato14:00
Lynourecbr: Intrepid support is on #ubuntu+1 if even yet there14:00
jussi01!tab | nonewmsgs14:01
ubottunonewmsgs: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.14:01
LynoureI didn't think it was even developed yet14:01
stdinit's not14:01
stdinuse it and you FAIL14:01
x-X-xlol14:01
LhademmorI take that as a no14:03
mefisto__Lhademmor: what happens when you reload, or try changing to the second tab, then back to the first?14:04
Lhademmormefisto__: Absolutely nothing14:06
mefisto__do you see the two tabs in the page, or just a grey box?14:07
LhademmorI see the two tabs14:08
ganastasiouhello everyone14:11
faderhvalGreetings14:11
ganastasiouanyone uses kopete for msn client?14:11
LhademmorQUESTION: Where is the Firefox plugins directory?14:11
ganastasioui have a problem with slow file transfer14:11
ganastasiounoone has experience with that?14:13
faderhvalIm trying to get DRI enabled on my gfx (Gefore 6800 LE PCI-E) so i need the "restricted" drivers and i looked up how to acces them but i can't find anything for kubuntu 8.04 anyone able to point me in the direction??14:13
faderhvalpreferably the right direction ;)14:14
Lynoureganastasiou: sure, plentu with slow servers :)14:14
Quetzlcoatldid you tried the nvidia site ?14:14
Lynoures/plentu/plenty/14:14
faderhvalyeah i did but i can have anohter look if you think there should be something there14:14
trident523Hey #kubuntu, how could I get skype working on an x64 install?14:17
mefisto__Lhademmor: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/    and also (but not always)   ~/.mozilla/plugins/14:18
faderhvalso i get a *.run file but as im not to familiar with more than the pretty basics of installing applications on linux im not entirely sure what to do with it :)??14:18
trident523Try dragging it into konsole, and hitting enter.14:19
LhademmorHaha, I used Suns (braindead) instructions for installing Java manually and linking it to my Firefox 2 browser and NOW, finally, I can see the box!14:19
LhademmorPraise tha lord!14:19
trident523!lord14:19
ubottuFactoid lord not found14:19
trident523ubottu does not yet know.14:20
trident523Kay, the forums knew what I wanted to do.14:22
faderhvalso didn't help dragging and pressing enter... how ever i tried the dpkg function but as it is not a *.deb i get an error14:23
jcfp!nvidia | faderhval14:23
ubottufaderhval: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:23
faderhvalthanks14:23
jcfpfaderhval: yours is an nvidia card14:24
faderhvalwill look into it at once14:24
Quetzlcoatlfaderhval: sudo sh Nvidia......run14:24
faderhvaljcfp: i looked into that but there are no instrictions for 8.04 and i have the package from nividia i wanna use14:25
faderhvalinstructions*14:26
Quetzlcoatland you need to install nvidia kernel source14:26
faderhvalQuetzlcoatl: uhm..hehe yes okay i'll have to google that thanks ^14:26
Quetzlcoatland if i remember well you have to  install also libc6-devel...anyway nvidia installer will tell you what you need14:27
faderhvalok got the kernel source! i'll try running the driver app. and see whats missing14:28
faderhvalsee ya soon seems it doesn't allow X to be running :)14:29
Quetzlcoatlok. good luck !14:29
faderhvalworked like a charm, thank you Quetzlcoatl14:35
Quetzlcoatl:)14:35
faderhvalnow to test if rendering is working ^^14:35
faderhvalwell i'll be...it does :)14:36
Quetzlcoatlgreat !14:36
faderhvalonly thing left is WoW and wine -.-14:37
Quetzlcoatl:))14:37
xtremejuicehey whta  going on bruss?14:38
xtremejuicewht up dawg??/14:38
Alfred-AUhi14:40
peixotoHi all14:43
peixotoIs there an advanced tellico user around ?14:44
peixotoGot a problem14:44
mefisto__I love tellico, don't know if I'm "advanced"14:44
peixotoI Love it too, but now I am getting trouble tring to get a printed version of my collection14:44
peixotoI just want a printout list of the titles14:45
raymearshi, everyone. small issue: just installed the kde4 meta-package on hardy and everything seems to work fine, except for the window decorations, which are missing. any suggestions as to what i could do to get them working?14:45
mefisto__never used it to print the reports. what's wrong, peixoto?14:46
peixotobut the problem is that the report tool from tellico doesnt know how to break pages correctly, so that some line are cut in the middle...14:46
charlywenas14:46
peixotoI tried to export the list to CSV and open in OOficce, but it misbehaving interpratating the comments of the films14:47
peixotoI exported using the ṕ character, but even this way OOfice cant separate the fields correctly....14:48
peixotoIs it so hard to get a printed list of my films ?14:48
Mak2Would anyone know how to install 32-bit compatibility in Kubuntu 8.04 amd64 or am I screwed and need to install the 32-bit version instead?14:49
faderhvalwhats the option to get dpkg install a package with dependecies?14:49
sacha_linux32 lets you run 32-bit binaries mak214:50
Mak2So simply apt-get install linux32 ?14:50
sacha_its in the package: util-linux14:50
Mak2Ok, that package is already installed, sacha_. But SecondLife refuses to run.14:50
astanhey. kubuntu does not include the rar plugin for ark in the kdeutils package? is it because of licensing or something?14:51
sacha_Mak2, run it like:   wine secondlife14:51
sacha_but, linux32 secondlife14:51
Mak2Ah, ok.14:51
astan(kdeutils-kde4 4.0.3)14:51
Mak2Apparently linux32 secondlife doesn't work, sacha_14:52
sacha_what does it say?14:52
Mak2linux32: secondlife: No such file or directory14:52
sacha_:P   linux32 /path/to/secondlifebinary14:52
Mak2When I do that, sacha_, second life claims it cannot find bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin which is clearly in the bin/ folder. >_>14:53
Mak2An error message which baffles me for the simple stupidity that the program cannot find something which is clearly there.14:54
sacha_oh, how are you meant to run secondlife if not directly? (i havent run it before)14:55
raymearshelp, anyone: just installed the kde4 meta-package on hardy and everything seems to work fine, except for the window decorations, which are missing. any suggestions as to what i could do to get them working? (just discovered that if i start kwin manually, it works...)14:56
mefisto__peixoto: is it cutting off the top of the page because of the filename and page number header?14:56
Mak2One runs the secondlife binary in the main folder which then runs the bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin and configures it properly, I guess.14:56
sacha_oh.. hmm14:56
Mak2The secondlife binary in the main folder has a bunch of config settings in it.14:57
Mak2Well, not really a binary. >_> It's a config script thing.14:57
sacha_linux32 /home/mak2/secondlife/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin     <-- like this?14:57
sacha_ahhh, it's a script? you can open that script in a text editor and just add "linux32" to the part where it runs secondlife14:57
Mak2I'll give it a go.14:58
Mak2Hang on14:58
peixotomefisto: no, it is cutting in the middle of line (randomly, in fact). It produces a long page, that doesnt fit in an A4, so when I print it cut some lines...14:58
Mak2export SL_CMD='$LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'14:58
Mak2Should I edit that one? >_>14:58
sacha_can try: export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'14:59
mefisto__peixoto: have you tried printing to a pdf file instead of your printer, then printing the pdf?14:59
peixotomefisto: yes, it gives me the same result...14:59
peixotomefisto: the PDF itself is cutted...15:00
Mak2linux32 $LL_WRAPPER bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:00
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Mak2linux32: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:00
Mak2I'm adding the full folder address to it now15:01
sacha_ok15:01
Mak2Nope. And even when changing the order of $LL_WRAPPER and linux32 no go15:02
sacha_when is SL_CMD executed?15:02
Mak2Er.. about 60/70% down in the thing?15:03
sacha_whats that line say15:03
Mak2# Run the program15:03
Mak2eval ${SL_ENV} ${SL_CMD} ${SL_OPT} || LL_RUN_ERR=runerr15:03
Mak2I could change that to ${linux32 SL_CMD} ? Maybe that works?15:04
peixotomefisto: I thought it was more common problem (at least I want a printed list when I go shopping:-) )... I'll drop a line to the author, to see if he has a solution, but thanks anyway15:04
sacha_no that wont work15:05
sacha_mm thats confusing. anyway, there are 64-bit versions of secondlife for ubuntu15:05
Mak2But do those work with RestrainedLife?15:05
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sacha_no idea lol15:05
ShawnRiskI am trying to install parallel tools for Parallels on my Mac to run Kubuntu 8.04 and I get this error: Found xorg version . Installation for xorg.. not found    Any ideas?15:06
mefisto__peixoto: it seems to not like A4 size15:06
sacha_Mak2: what is SL_ENV set to15:06
Mak2export SL_ENV='LD_LIBRARY_PATH="`pwd`"/lib:"`pwd`"/app_settings/mozilla-runtime-linux-i686:"${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}"'15:07
stdinShawnRisk: try installing xorg-dev15:07
sacha_what happens when you run the script normally? with nothing changed15:08
Mak2with or without linux3215:09
Mak2?15:09
sacha_without15:09
Mak2./secondlife15:09
Mak2./secondlife: line 92: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:09
Mak2*** Unclean shutdown. ***15:09
ShawnRiskstdin: trying15:09
sacha_im just curious since it said it didnt know where bin/do-not-run.. was before.. maybe it doesnt know it normally15:09
sacha_yeah15:09
sacha_so the linux32 thing did work.. its just that file really doesnt exist15:09
Mak2But it does15:10
Mak2It shows in konqueror15:10
sacha_what directory are you running secondlife in?15:10
slow-motionhi15:10
Mak2/home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/15:10
peixotomefisto__: I tried Letter, and it worked now (I dont know if it was by chance, but it worked anyway).... I'll try a couple more reports...15:10
sacha_and what directory is the do-not-directly-run.. in?15:10
Mak2/home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/15:10
sacha_ok for SL_CMD line make it this: export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'15:11
sacha_with full path.. maybe itll get it then15:12
Mak2$ ./secondlife15:12
Mak2./secondlife: line 92: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:12
Mak2*** Unclean shutdown. ***15:12
sacha_try this:  ls ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/15:12
Mak2$ ./secondlife15:13
Mak2./secondlife: line 92: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:13
Mak2*** Unclean shutdown. ***15:13
Mak2Still the same error.15:13
sacha_no i mean, try running this command:  ls ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/15:13
ShawnRiskstdin: installed should I restart?15:14
Mak2er15:14
Mak2That gives me a list15:14
TheGateKeeperhow do you upgrade from dapper 6.06 to the latest version (Full Upgrade button in adept is greyed out) ??15:14
Mak2the bin directory is blue15:14
sacha_ok good15:14
sacha_$ ./secondlife  <-- where are you running this from? are you sure this isnt /home/maki/ ?15:14
stdinShawnRisk: you don't need to reboot, just try installing parallel tools again15:14
Mak2download and burn the iso and run the install CD, TheGateKeeper.15:14
ShawnRiskstdin: did, still same error15:15
Mak2I'm pretty sure of that, sacha.15:15
Mr_SonomaA little help with a SAMBA/CUPS issue? trying to print from a windows vista machine to my linux box (kubuntu 8.04) so far i can browse printers on the windows box, and when i attempt to print a test page it shows in the "jobs" page of CUPS but goes no further. suggestions, ideas?15:15
Mak2maki@Kokoro:~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5$15:15
TheGateKeeperMak2: you can't do it over the net?15:15
sacha_mm why would it say file doesnt exist?15:15
stdinShawnRisk: I don't know then, it usually means it want's the dev files and what's why you installed. unless it's looking in the wrong place15:15
Mak2Not to my knowledge, TheGateKeeper.15:15
Mak2See, that's what puzzles me as well, sacha_.15:15
Mak2The file IS there. I even reinstalled the thing to try and see if that works.15:16
sacha_Mak2: can you `cd bin` and then ./do<TAB><TAB> and run it?15:16
TheGateKeeperMak2: you are talking about an upgrade & not a fresh install ?15:16
ShawnRiskstdin: no other ideas?15:16
Mak2Er15:16
Mak2I fresh installed, TheGateKeeper, so I dunno.15:17
stdinShawnRisk: I've never tried to install it, so I don't know. have you looked on the forums?15:17
Mak2$ ./do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:17
Mak2bash: ./do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:17
ShawnRiskstdin: yes15:17
sacha_thats just weird15:18
Mak2I upgraded from 7.04 to 8.04 with my /home/ on a different partition, TheGateKeeper.15:18
Mak2Yes, sacha_15:18
sacha_a file that is there that .. isnt?15:19
Mak2I'm dumping a copy to /home/maki/restrainedlife/ and see if it runs from there.15:19
Mak2Might be the Capitals or the dots or something.. I dunno15:20
crazy_busis there any program that will allow me to view a folder of images one after another length wise on the same page.  Because I have a whole bunch on book snippits and I want to view them as a page with only a small gap between each one15:20
Jucatocrazy_bus: gwenview?15:20
viperserv2hello15:20
Mak2Nope, doesn't work either. It gives me the same 'No such file or directory' error when running from that folder.15:20
BluesKajhiyas all15:20
Mak2As I said: It worked fine in 32-bits 7.0415:21
viperserv2is there anyway to convert a raid1 into raid0 or normal hds with ssh?15:21
sacha_the 32-bits/64-bits doesnt matter at all15:21
Mak2Ok15:21
xtremejuicefuck ypu15:21
sacha_thats some freaky thing going on where it cant see a file that is there15:21
Mak2So 7.04 runs fine and 8.04 chokes to death. >_>15:21
stdin!language | xtremejuice15:21
ubottuxtremejuice: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.15:21
crazy_busJucato: so the kde3 version can do that?  As I only currently have the kde4 version installed15:21
sacha_Mak2: are you sure there isnt some symlink in there that got lost when you copied something?15:21
sacha_crazy_bus: kde4 one does that15:22
Jucatoso does kde 315:22
Jucatoby lengthwise I presume you mean "vertical"?15:22
crazy_bussacha_: how do I make it do it.  I only get a single image, or lots of previews at a time15:22
Mak2sacha_ I am pretty sure that after I installed 8.04, the /home/ directory being on a different partition from / and swap that I kept the files as they were in 7.04 and upon trying to run secondlife it failed majorly with the errors I showed you.15:23
crazy_busJucato: yes vertical15:23
ShawnRiskanyone else can help me?15:23
Mak2Being that it can't even find the darned file I am pretty sure, also, that it's nothing to do with audio or video driver issues or anything and am completely baffled.15:23
Jucatocrazy_bus: well, if you're viewing book pages as images, why not just go to View image mode (one image at a time) then press Space/Backspace to navigate the images sequentially?15:24
ShawnRiskI am trying to install parallel tools for Parallels on my Mac to run Kubuntu 8.04 and I get this error: Found xorg version . Installation for xorg.. not found    Any ideas?15:24
crazy_busJucato: not book pages.  More like three line images and it's hard to concentrate going going forwards individually15:25
sacha_Mak2: ls -alF /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/ | grep not15:25
Mak2$ ls -alF /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/ | grep not15:25
Mak2-rwxr-xr-x 1 maki maki 35847120 2008-04-05 01:06 do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin*15:25
sacha_what colour is it in15:25
Mak2huh?15:26
sacha_the file15:26
Mak2er15:26
Mak2green15:26
ShawnRiskI am out of here15:26
sinkzhow do i join Quakenet?15:26
BluesKajsinkz, quakenet has it's own server , youll have to set it up on your IRC client15:27
Jucatocrazy_bus: this is the only way I can think of. in Gwenview's Browse mode, there is a slider in the toolbar at the top, beside "Thumbnails with Info on Bottom". slide that up way left to increase the preview size to 256x25615:27
sacha_Mak2: bash SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:28
sacha_oops15:28
Mak2er15:28
sacha_Mak2: bash ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:28
Mak2$ bash ~/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:28
Mak2/home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: cannot execute binary file15:28
crazy_busJucato: unfortunately their not big enough in my version.  Maybe I'll try imagemagick15:29
Jucatocrazy_bus: both kde4 and kde3 versions seem to have that max "preview" size15:30
Mak2The error persists throughout SL versions, sacha_15:31
sacha_weirdest thing ever :P15:31
Minnozz!kmilo15:31
ubottuFactoid kmilo not found15:31
Mak2RestrainedLife-1.10.5.2-SL-1.19.1.4 does the same.15:31
Minnozzdoes anybody know how to fix KMilo for my Logitech keyboard?15:31
crazy_busJucato: I found how to do it perfectly by stitching them together into a pdf.  Thanks for all your help ( sacha_ too )15:34
sacha_Mak2: well if this doesnt work i dunno whats going on:   export SL_CMD='linux32 $LL_WRAPPER /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin'15:34
Mak2$ ./secondlife15:35
Mak2linux32: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:35
Mak2*** Unclean shutdown. ***15:35
Mak2$ linux32 /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin15:36
Mak2linux32: /home/maki/SL/RestrainedLife-1.10.4-SL-1.19.0.5/bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory15:36
Mak2>_>;15:36
Mak2sacha_15:37
Mak2I tried installing several versions of the RL viewer as well as the SL viewer to several different folders, repeating what you told me.15:38
Mak2They all come out on not being able to find the bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin binary15:38
sacha_maybe they did some cray voodoo thing so you cant run their file directly15:38
Mak2heh15:39
Mak2I wouldn't know how to edit a binary to check, sacha_15:39
Mak2But since the secondlife script executes the binary, wouldn't that still need to work somehow cause it did before? o.O;15:40
TheGateKeeperNeed to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.  <<< what is OB ?15:42
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velhoi need some help, please. i've just installed lasted kubuntu version with kde4, and after making some changes, now kde doesn't start!15:43
velhocan i restart kde to default installation version or something?15:44
BluesKajvelho, describe doesn't start15:44
MinnozzTheGateKeeper: not much15:45
Minnozz( zero bytes )15:45
velhox loads and ask me to put my name and password. by trying to load kde, it stops in the middle and restart to the logion window15:45
velho*login15:46
BluesKajvelho,15:46
faderhvalcan someone point me to a man/guide where i can read a bit aobut the directory structure in kubuntu/linux can't find much on google15:46
BluesKajyou have to choose wich desktop in the menu, if you have kde3 and415:46
Minnozzfaderhval: type 'man hier'15:47
hydrogen!fhs15:47
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview15:47
TheGateKeeperwell looks like nothing has changed, upgrading from one version to the next seems like you still have to trash everything and start again from scratch15:47
faderhvalMinnozz: and hydrogen thanks..15:48
BluesKajTheGateKeeper, not really15:48
velhoBluesKaj: when i choose KDE4, it doesn't start. i'm in "Failsafe" now... :S15:48
Minnozzyou're welcome :)15:48
BluesKajvelho, do you have kde 3 installed ?15:48
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: ok so how do I upgrade from 6.06 ?15:48
velhono, i guess not15:48
hydrogenTheGateKeeper: "You can only directly upgrade to Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) from Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon)"15:50
velhoBluesKaj: i have the latest kubuntu version with kde4. is this a kde4 bug?15:50
dhqhello guys ... i just installed kubuntu 8.04 but the problem is it uses vesa drivers when i install the propariety drivers i get the white screen of death15:50
BluesKajTheGateKeeper, you made a blanket statement , but din't mention that you were 4-5 releases behind the curve15:50
hydrogenBluesKaj: well.. one would expect that it would be possible to updat from LTS to what should have been a LTS15:51
BluesKajvelho, it could be your hardware doesn't work with kde415:51
hydrogenas it is on nonkubuntu15:51
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: hydrogen you should be able to upgrade from one LTS version to the next15:51
hydrogenTheGateKeeper: however, kubuntu 8.04 is not a lts15:51
velhoBluesKaj: but it WAS working15:51
BluesKajhmm is Hardy is an LTS ?15:51
hydrogenwhich means everythings going to be thrown off15:51
hydrogenBluesKaj: it is for ubuntu, not kubuntu15:52
TheGateKeeperhydrogen: I thought it was15:52
BluesKajvelho, so what has changed since it was working ?15:52
Mr_SonomaA little help with a SAMBA/CUPS issue? trying to print from a windows vista machine to my linux box (kubuntu 8.04) so far i can browse printers on the windows box, and when i attempt to print a test page it shows in the "jobs" page of CUPS but goes no further. suggestions, ideas?15:52
velhoBluesKaj: i was changing the K menu15:53
BluesKajvelho, you changed the kicker ?15:54
BluesKajMr_Sonoma, so which pc is the printer actually connected to ?15:55
Minnozzany help with the case "Logitech keyboard vs. kmilo" ?15:55
velhoBluesKaj: exactly15:55
velhoBluesKaj: can i pu kicker in default mode?15:56
BluesKajvelho, dunno how to help , maybe change it back ?15:56
Mak2sacha_ still alive?15:56
sacha_hi15:56
Mak2Hehe15:56
velhobut can i change back the kicker? by a command line or something?15:57
Mak2You just went silent all of a sudden, sorry. I'm still not quite sure what to do. Should I install the 32-bit version of 8.04 or see if there's a solution for this problem I have in the amd64 version?15:57
viperserv2is there anyway to convert a raid1 into raid0 or normal hds with ssh?15:58
Mak2I mean, if the binary isn't supposed to be run by itself, but can't run without linux32 or something.. as far as I understand now.. it might be that it would work in the 32-bit version because it doesn't depend on working with linux32?15:58
sacha_naah it has nothing to do with 32/64 bits15:59
sacha_it doesnt run even without linux3215:59
Mak2Then I'm stumped15:59
Mak2So how do I solve it?16:00
Mak2Backtrack to 7.04?16:00
sacha_no idea16:00
sacha_its just completely weird. never seen a file that is there but not there before16:00
Mak2Me neither.16:00
Mak2But as I said: It happens to other installs as well.16:01
Mak2do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin just doesn't exist on disk but exists regardless. >_>16:01
Mak2And is 34.2 MB or (35,847,120 B) on said disk. >_>16:01
ccc4some one help am a newbie:)16:02
sacha_lol16:02
genii!ask | ccc416:02
ubottuccc4: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)16:02
geniiccc4: eg: State the nature of your kubuntu emergency ;)16:03
ccc4well16:03
ccc4i put ma usb device in and ma kubunto wont read it or i dnt find it ? help16:03
sacha_kde3 or kde4?16:03
sujithhi I want to  how can I voice chat in ubuntu16:03
ccc4its kubunto16:04
sujithyes16:04
geniiccc4: What is the usb device you plugged in?16:04
ccc47.1016:04
ccc4genii its a normal 116:04
Lynouresujith: there are many ways, skype, lots of other voip software, some messaging software16:04
ccc4just with pictures16:04
sacha_a flash drive16:04
velhocan i restart the default kicker in kde4? i guess i can't acess kubuntu because i changed the kicker. help?16:04
BluesKajvelho, maybe you should ask in #kubuntu-kde416:05
plinio_what is new in ubuntu 804?16:05
velhoBluesKaj: thanks16:05
geniiccc4: OK, so storage device. What filesystem? Was it used before with a windows system?16:05
ubottuplinio_: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 382, column 8416:05
geniihmm16:05
sacha_lol16:06
sujithanybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account16:06
geniiMak2: What is your 32/64 bit dilemma?16:07
Mak2Well, sacha_ sorta ruled out it was a 32/64 bit problem, genii16:08
geniiI just got here so sorta need a recap16:08
sacha_genii: konqueror and `ls` show that a file exists.. but if he attempts to run the file, it says file or folder doesnt exist16:09
Mak2Apparently the file do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin in the /bin/ folder in pretty much all versions of the SecondLife and RestrainedLife viewers I tried so far doesn't exist. Yet still takes up about 30 MB worth of room and shows in both Konsole and Konqueror and is executable and can be manipulated..16:09
Mak2I'm a she, sacha_.16:09
sacha_oh sorry16:09
* Mak2 pets softly. "No problem."16:09
sujithanybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account16:09
sujithanybody pls help me which messenger is available for voice chat other than skype for yahoo and gmail account16:09
hydrogenpatience16:10
rootsnatchhey guys so I want to have the output of a shell command appear on my desktop, is that possible?16:10
sacha_sujith: MSN?16:10
rootsnatchI have tried conky but I can't get conky to work without it flickering whenever I put something on the desktop or take it off the desktop16:10
rootsnatchany other ideas?16:10
sujithboth yahoo and Gtalk client in linux for voice chatr16:11
geniiMak2: What does ls -l of the file show?   (executable, is it a symlink(to a nonexistant target), ownership, etc)16:11
Mak2sacha_ & genii I solved the problem!16:11
sacha_genii: its a green file (executable) and not a symlink16:11
sacha_how did you solve it?16:11
sujithsacha can u help me??16:11
BluesKajrootsnatch, whynot just copy&paste the output to a text file16:12
sacha_sujith: what is the problem?16:12
rootsnatchok then can I display the text file on the desktop16:12
Mak2I just installed wine and dependencies and now the do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin does work. I think it has something to do with the dependencies. The following packages came with wine: binfmt-support ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32gcc1 lib32ncurses5 lib32stdc++6 lib32z1 libc6-i38616:12
sujithi want to know is ubuntu supports voice chat for yahoo and gtalk16:12
sacha_BluesKaj: i think he just wants a console on his desktop16:12
sacha_sujith: yeah, yahoo, gtalk and msn16:12
rootsnatchBluesKaj: pretty much, or at least just the output of a command on the desktop16:13
sujithcan u please let me which application16:13
Mak2Now I just need to figure out how to get the proper video drivers for my ASUS EN6200LE TC1G to work. >_> Cause SL gave me a window creation error. XD16:13
sacha_binfmt-support would be it16:13
BluesKajwell desktop to me is a "desltop not TTY prompt or shell prompt16:13
BluesKajdektop16:13
sujithsacha binfmt is the answer for me??16:13
* BluesKaj ties to clean L+KB 16:13
sacha_sujith: no16:13
astanrootsnatch: i think you could use root-tail (aptitude install root-tail)16:13
sacha_sujith: have you tried kopete for msn?16:14
BluesKajKB is in bad shape here ...bbl16:14
sacha_and yahoo16:14
sujithyes16:14
sacha_sujith: also, there is Skype for Linux16:14
sujithgeneral chat support16:14
sujithno voice chat16:14
sujithya skype works fine16:14
sacha_theres voice chat in my kopete16:14
sujithare sure??16:15
sacha_also, google has a list with all linux clients that work with it:16:15
sacha_http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html  <-- none of them do voice sorry16:15
sacha_(for google talk)16:15
astanrootsnatch: if you put "yourcommand > /tmp/cmd-output" in a shell script somewhere, and then root-tail --reload 1 /path/to/shell/script /tmp/cmd-output16:15
astanrootsnatch: (note i've not tried this myself, just going by the root-tail manual).16:15
sujithok16:16
rootsnatchthanks!16:16
astannp.16:17
sujithsacha anyway thanks for u r support16:17
sujithalso one more quory how can we remove startup programs in linux16:17
sacha_~/.kde/Autostart has startup programs, there would be more in the method used to start kdm (xinit/startx), there are also services16:18
melania123456que c hago16:19
sacha_you can configure them all in SystemSettings->Advanced16:19
sacha_sujith: i believe the latest version of Pidgin now supports voice with google talk16:20
Mak2Hasta la vista baby! XD16:20
sacha_sujith: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/34 <-- in here it details about what pidgin voice support is currently16:21
sujiththanks sacha16:21
sacha_sujith: aMSN also boats voice support16:22
sujithsacha how can i remove startup programs16:23
sujithis there any commands16:23
sacha_sujith: in System Settings application go to Advanced and then Service Manager16:24
arkegood evennig. :)16:24
arkeerr16:24
arkeevening16:24
* arke can't type16:24
arkeany suggestions for decreasing the base system's RAM footprint?16:25
sacha_what is it now and what are you trying to decrease it to?16:25
sacha_there are different distros that specialise in low memory footprints16:25
sacha_i think kubuntu aims at 256-51216:26
mefisto__arke: you could disable any services you don't use/need16:26
sujiththanks sacha for ur support16:27
sujithi am just biginner in linux16:28
sacha_its ok. its hard with so many different applications for one purpose all with varying features16:28
sujithso I dont know much abt the utilities16:28
sujithok16:28
sujithI couldnt find any suitable application for voice chat16:29
sujithhow can i upgarde pidgin16:29
geniiarke: The biggest hog is usually the window manager, lighter window managers lighten the load. For systems where ram is tight, ppl usually go with fluxbox or xfce (fluxbuntu or xubuntu)16:29
sujithis it like windos?16:29
sacha_sujith: sudo apt-get install pidgin16:29
BluesKajsujith, what do like doing with your pc , what were you doing in windows or mac that you want to do in linux too ?16:29
sacha_sujith: or, if you prefer a graphical interface, open up adept_manager16:29
sacha_BluesKaj: he just wants voice chat in google talk or yahoo16:30
sujithya its showing the pidgin is the latest version16:30
sacha_sujith: alt+f2 and then type in: pidgin16:31
BluesKajyup sacha_'s right ..pidgin is prolly the best bet16:31
sacha_im not sure really because they lost voice and webcam support after the name change from gaim. hoping they got it back recently16:31
sujithsacha i think still it does nt support that16:32
sacha_not working?16:33
sujithya no voice options16:33
sacha_ah ok, mmm16:34
sacha_and kopete didnt work for you?16:34
BluesKajis voice and webcam, that important to users..i thought cellphones &  pda's and the like were what "happening dudes and dudettes" were using nowadays  :)16:34
sujithya16:34
sacha_voice and webcam works fine in msn on pretty much every client (except pidgin) :P16:34
sacha_not sure about yahoo though, on kopete, because i dont have a yahoo16:35
sujithBluesKaj I was using windows and just learning linux16:35
sujithI want to try all services in linux tooo16:35
sujithok16:35
BluesKajright , welcome to linux , sujith16:35
sujiththanks BluesKaj16:36
sujithIam just a beginner so iam distubing u people with questions16:36
sujithsorry for that16:36
geniiThe pidgin devs have no plans for webcam or voice support16:36
genii(reference http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/34 )16:37
BluesKajkopete is a good client for the regular IMs from my experience anyway..not a yahoo user tho16:37
sacha_ekiga does voice but not sure what protocols it uses16:37
sujithsame command works for ekiga16:38
sujithsudo apt-get install ekiga??16:38
llutzekiga uses SIP and h32316:38
sacha_yes sujith16:38
sacha_this thing looks dodgy but it has voice support for yahoo: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/16:39
mefisto__how can I do a bulk rename? I want to change .JPG to .jpg16:42
llutzmefisto__: krename16:42
llutzor mmv16:43
mefisto__you mean mv ?16:43
llutzmefisto__: nope  mmv16:43
llutzmmv - Move/Copy/Append/Link multiple files16:44
sacha_mefisto__: rename -v 's/\.JPG$/\.jpg/' *.JPG16:45
sacha_mefisto__: dont worry bout the scary slashes and stuff, just regex16:45
mefisto__but I do worry about regex. I'll get around to learning it one day :)16:46
sacha_did that work?16:46
sigma_1234whats a good program to convert a dvd to a high quality avi file?16:46
llutzsigma_1234: dvd:rip, k9copy16:47
viperserv2hmm i hate raid116:48
viperserv2waste hd space16:48
mefisto__sacha_: didn't work. filename already exists. so it doesn't seem to differentiate uppercase and lowercase16:48
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sigma_1234thanks16:48
sacha_sigma_1234: well, mencoder.. but you want a graphical frontend for mencoder16:48
sacha_sigma_1234: which is like acidrip or dvd::rip16:48
sigma_1234yeah i need one16:48
sacha_mefisto__: thats weird.. it definitely does differentiate between those16:49
sigma_1234acidrip doesnt work anymore16:49
sacha_mefisto__: but maybe the filename really does exist? changed some names already?16:49
viperserv2hmm there no safe way to deraid?16:49
sigma_1234hope dvd rip does16:49
sacha_oh dvd::rip is a frontend for transcode16:49
sacha_sigma_1234: takes about 8 hours for dvd->avi high quality16:50
sigma_1234whats the difference?16:50
sacha_differet backends are different code which means completely different results16:51
Lynoureviperserv2: from raid 1? hw, software, something else? Basicly you already deraid if you pop out the second disk, but it will be unhappy into your logs :)16:51
viperserv2well i only have ssh to work with16:51
Lynoureviperserv2: hardware or software raid?16:52
sujithsacha one more help16:53
sujithi have a tar.gz file16:53
sujithi dont know how to install this file16:53
sujithcan u help me16:53
therionHi all, how i can install compiz without installing also gnome libraries or dependencies?16:53
sacha_sujith: tar xvf filename.tar.gz16:53
sacha_sujith: that extracts the file to a directory called filename (whatever it was called)16:54
sujiththis is a them file16:54
Lynoureviperserv2: if it's hardware raid, you are pretty much out of luck unless you have a ipmi card that lest you talk to the hardware raid management...16:54
sacha_you can also open .tar.gz with the extractor program, Ark16:54
sacha_sujith: oh right, i think you can use themes directly from the tar.. go to System Settings->Appearance->Themes16:55
sacha_and then Import...16:55
viperserv2hmm its md1 and md216:55
Lynoureviperserv2: that's software raid then... :)16:56
viperserv2hmm there is a safe way to get rid of it then?16:56
viperserv2well sda1 and sdb1 r the drives16:58
mobilehas any one had any experiance ATI binary driver and catar?lyst control cente16:58
Lynoureviperserv2: not very safe, but at least it should be doable. I would not try to walk you through it remotely, too many variables and if you'd mess it up it would be sad. If you really have only remote access, I wholeheartedly recommend sticking to raid1 unless it's a throwaway system. I know, it feels useless until one of the disks break16:59
mobilewith kunbuntu16:59
sujithsacha i couldnt find a theme options in appearance window16:59
sujithsacha i couldnt find a theme options in appearance windo17:00
mobileHELP17:00
sujithanybody pls help me how can I install tar.gz file17:02
beandon are you there17:03
Lynoureviperserv2: sooner or later one of them will and then with raid1 your data is still safe and fine, which raid0 or no raid it's just gone (better have good backups).17:03
geniiIt eludes me why raid0 is even used at all17:04
geniiIt's like a step backwards17:04
pramodI just upgraded to kubuntu 8.04 and am not able to play sounds... :(17:04
viperserv2well if the drive is cooled it wont fail17:04
geniipramod: Please report result of command (in Konsole): lspci -v | grep Audio17:04
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pramodokok17:05
geniiviperserv2: All drives fail. Thats why they have MTBF ratings17:05
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sujithanybody pls help me how can I install tar.gz file17:05
mobileCan anyone help me with a ati graphics driver for linux unbuntu and kunbuntu.17:06
pramodeven my konsole has crashed...17:06
pramodgot to restart pc... i will be right back17:06
sujithsacha r u there17:07
sujithcan u help me?17:07
mobileCan anyone help me with a ati graphics driver for linux unbuntu and kunbuntu.17:07
geniipramod: Make sure you run the Konsole version of the kde you are in17:07
Lynoureviperserv2: if you still want to unraid, I'll pastebin you something might work, no promises it will not end up with tears, I would not do it remotely, or on an non-backed up system, myself.17:08
viperserv2well if there is a small partition for the os it shouold be ok to delete a partition17:08
pramodi am using kde 3.5.917:08
beani,m not vayant17:08
sujithI want to install a file with extn tar.gz17:08
sujithhow can I install that17:08
pramodeven i installed upgraded to the KDE 4 version.... it's still on KDE 3.5.917:09
stdinsujith: tar.gz is a compresses file you extract, it usually contains source files you need to compile17:10
stdin!compile17:10
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)17:10
viperserv2\i will try it17:10
pramodam not able to play get sounds on the Kubuntu 8.0417:14
viperserv2md2 is unmounted17:15
viperserv2/dev/md1 3.0G 573M 2.3G 20% /17:15
viperserv2varrun 2.0G 48K 2.0G 1% /var/run17:15
viperserv2varlock 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /var/lock17:15
viperserv2udev 2.0G 48K 2.0G 1% /dev17:15
viperserv2devshm 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /dev/shm17:15
ArelisHow do i turn a series of images into an animation with a set FPS rate?>17:16
pramodi just upgraded to kubuntu 8.04 and am not able to play sound.. :(17:16
mefisto__pramod: did you upgrade from gutsy?17:17
pramodyeah17:17
geniipramod: Again. Please report the sound card type with the result of command: lspci | grep Audio17:17
pramodfron gutsy 7.1017:17
pramodah ok thaks i was waiting for that17:17
mefisto__I was reading in ubuntuforums yesterday about the upgrade installing -386 instead of -generic linux images, and that was causing some people to lose sound.17:18
freitasxola17:19
geniimefisto__: Also a lot of ppl on < 8.04 ran the !intelhda fix forgetting they did so, and need to re-do it17:19
pramod80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)17:19
hellhoundin Hardy Heron, what program is used to search the words of files within a folder.  for example I want to search for files containing a specific word in a folder and its subfolder17:20
rishihi17:21
rishii want to ask17:22
pramodgenii: 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10)17:22
geniipramod: Ok, now to get device code, :   lspci -nn | grep Audio17:22
freitasxalquem sabe se o ug do virtualbox ja foi corrigido17:22
Lynoureviperserv2: if you have only 3G, is that a VPS?17:22
pramodgenii: 80:01.0 Audio device [0403]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller [1106:3288] (rev 10)17:22
geniipramod: That will tell us vendor/device identifiers which can be useful to find chipset, etc17:23
geniipramod: OK, give me a minute (or 3) for research17:23
rishiis ubuntu 7.01 is compatilable with windows vista????17:23
pramodok thanks you... :)17:23
Lynoureviperserv2: don't even try if it is, ask the supplier to move you to raid0 or something. And you still have 80% of it free!17:23
freitasxsomebody speak portuguese????17:23
jonfhancockDude... so far, I'm more irritated than impressed with KDE417:24
jpatrick!pt | freitasx17:24
ubottufreitasx: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:24
rishiis ubuntu 7.01 is compatilable with windows vista????17:24
pramodyeah true... KDE 4 still has some bugs... i wonder whether i did the right thing by downloading the KDE4 Remix version... :S17:24
rishipls tell me17:24
jpatrick!windows > rishi17:25
Lynourerishi: compatible in what way? You can have both 7.10 and vista on same system...17:25
rishiyes17:25
pramodrishi: Ubuntu is installed in dual boot in another partition... it has no relationship with its compatibility with vista...17:26
rishipramod:are u from india???17:26
pramodnope... Mauritius...17:26
rishiok17:27
viperserv2well it has 2 750gb drives17:27
viperserv2but i unmounted the md217:27
jonfhancockrishi: do you mean: Can the grub bool loader boot windows vista?17:27
jonfhancockif so, then yess17:27
pramodrishi: The only compatibility issue is with it's hardware...17:27
rishiwhat about the ububtu 817:27
jonfhancockI got the remix cd too..  I was irritated that it didn't come with amarok17:27
jonfhancockor konversation17:27
rishipramod:i am asking because17:27
jonfhancockand I hate the new panel/widgets17:28
rishipramod:i installed17:28
rishiubuntu 7.1017:28
rishion a hp pavalion dv6700017:28
rishilaptop17:28
Lynourejonfhancock: well, go back to kde3? kde4 support is on #kubuntu-kde4 anyway :)17:28
rishiwhich have vista on it17:28
rishiwjen i finished17:28
jonfhancockLynoure: I probably will17:29
rishiinstallation17:29
rishiand restart laptop17:29
rishithen grub start showing17:29
rishitwo option for vista17:29
viperserv2if i de partition md2 that would be enough?17:29
Lynourejonfhancock: it's possible to have both too, that way you can occasionally go take a look at the side you normally don't use17:29
rishiand when i boot my vista17:29
geniipramod: I'm not having much success with google. But it seems that this chipset is somehow tied up with winmodem HSF driver, a lot of reverences to this. PErhaps due to bundled VIA chipset.17:29
Maximilian001hi guys17:29
Maximilian001is there something like .kde/Autostart  but for the END of the session?   I need to define a command which has to be executed by logging out17:29
rishithen it will not boot17:29
rishibut ubuntu working currectly17:30
jonfhancockrishi google vista grub17:30
rishipramod:so wht's the problem???17:30
jonfhancockLynoure: good point17:30
parkinmy adept manager doesnt start, it just loads for a while and then closes17:30
rishijonfhancock:so what the problem with my vista???17:31
viperserv2yeah i want to gamble things cause tech support will just install a new os at the data center17:31
pramodrishi: the problem is with vista... not ubuntu.... u might have deleted an essential partition in vista...17:31
pramodrishi: while making partition for ur ubuntu...17:31
rishiit has only two partion17:32
rishione for recovery and one for vista17:32
rishiand i just resize vist partion17:32
jonfhancockYou resized the partition?17:32
jonfhancockhmm17:32
rishiyes17:32
rishiso what??17:33
viperserv2/dev/sda1 * 1 392 3148708+ fd Linux raid autodetect17:33
viperserv2/dev/sda2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect17:33
viperserv2/dev/sda3 91137 91201 522112+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris17:33
viperserv2/dev/sdb1 * 1 392 3148708+ fd Linux raid autodetect17:34
viperserv2/dev/sdb2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect17:34
viperserv2/dev/sdb3 91137 91201 522112+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris17:34
jonfhancockrishi can you post your /boot/grub/menu.lst to pastebin.com?17:34
stdin!paste > viperserv217:34
mefisto__rishi: can you mount the vista partition in kubuntu?17:34
geniipramod: Please report result of : lspci -nnv -s 80.01.0    (pastebin and not here please)17:34
rishiat the time i have not that laptop so i acn't17:35
rishican't17:35
jonfhancockah17:35
Lynoureviperserv2: Like I said, I won't walk you through it, but you can use http://pastebin.com/d32b68a4a as inspiration, but not recommended at all to be done remotely or on a system with unreplacable data, and you'll need to figure out yourself what device is which. (Read: not recommended at all) Good luck.17:35
rishijonfhancock:but17:35
rishiwhen i go to hp services17:35
rishithen they tell17:35
rishime that there is an17:35
jonfhancockrishi: make sure the line to boot vista in your menu.lst looks like this http://www.pronetworks.org/forum/about78184.html17:36
stdin!enter | rishi17:36
ubotturishi: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!17:36
rishiok17:36
geniipramod: I *suspect* you have an ATI SoundBlaster SB450 attached to a VIA bus but want to know for sure17:36
rishispecial think with dv series of hp that they only support vista17:36
jonfhancockrishi: Past that, you may have damaged your windows partition when you resized it.  If you're desparate, use the vista CD to repair the vista boot loader and try that17:37
viperserv2none of them work17:37
pramodgenii: WAt's pastebin??? :S17:37
parkini can get the adept manager to start17:37
genii!pastebin | pramod17:37
ubottupramod: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:37
rishii tryed to install a new vista on my laptop but when i boot my system from taht dvd then it cant boot with it17:37
parkinits just loads then dissapears17:37
pramodgenii: i have no soundblater card...17:37
Lynoureviperserv2: and you'll prolly need to edit mdadm.conf in the end to do away with nagging which you'll get if the md is still there17:38
geniipramod: It will be a builtin card on the motherboard but not immediately recognised17:38
pramodgenii: hmmm the card i am using is an integrated one...17:39
rishiok i see that on that url it is clearly written that do not resize vista partion17:39
rishiso my mistake is that by mistake i resize vista partion17:40
geniipramod: A more exact model is what we are trying to find here, along with how it is attached17:40
pramodit's integrated on the mainboard...17:41
jonfhancockrishi: If you can mount the vista partition in linux, you can salvage the data17:41
pramodgenii: a realtek soundcard17:41
geniipramod: builtin=integrated    The card may report as some VIA thing but instead be made by another maker and sort of spliced in.17:41
rishijonfhancock:my ubuntu doesn't showing vista partions17:42
narothepharohim having a problem with wine17:42
pramodgenii: ok i will try to research it and tell you about it... :)17:42
jonfhancockrishi: you may have to mount it manually17:43
jonfhancock!fstab17:43
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions17:43
jonfhancock!mount17:43
ubottuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter17:43
geniipramod: OK. Get back to me when you have a better idea of the exact card, etc.17:43
pramodok... thanks...17:43
rishibut i want to ask that when i boot my laptop from a fresh dvd of vista for a new install why it can't boot17:43
narothepharohi recently updated to 8.04 and now when i try to browse the c drive in wine it says url not supported17:44
rishiand that dvd working coorectly on others17:44
jonfhancockrishi: that is an hp/vista question.17:44
rishiok17:44
parkin.17:44
rishii am just asking because if u have any idea about it17:44
jonfhancockrishi: I'm affraid I don't17:45
jonfhancockI don't use vista.17:45
rishii also hate windows17:45
jonfhancockbecause Ubuntu kicks vista's rear17:45
rishiand i am building my own linux17:45
rishiit will comes to market soon17:46
narothepharohanyone have any ideas?17:46
rishiwith name ILINUX17:46
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: what file browser are you using?17:46
faderhvalsomething good have happent with kubuntu 8.04! i can actually install and update World of warcraft with no major problems go Kubuntu17:46
jonfhancockkonqueror or dolphin?17:46
pramodrishi: how u build ur own linux?17:46
geniijonfhancock: I need to keep Vista on my laptop for warrantee purposes, but I've booted up to it a total of 3 times17:46
narothepharohit is thunar17:46
rishii am just download the latest kernel17:47
rishithen compilie all pakages17:47
narothepharohjonfhancock i believe it is dolphin17:47
rishiand all basic utils17:47
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: hmm not familiar with that one.  try it in another browser.  mine opens ok in konqueror17:47
rishifirst i make a temporary minimal syatem17:47
rishiwhich is able to boot my system only nothing else17:48
pramodrishi: there is a site called linuxfromscratch... i want to use that....17:48
narothepharohjonfhancock: how do i get konqueror17:48
fildo!games17:48
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php17:48
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: you're in kubuntu right?17:48
rishipramod:great that a good one17:48
narothepharohjonfhancock: yes17:48
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: it should be installed already17:48
rishipramod:do u use it before??/17:48
jonfhancockunder internet in the menu17:49
geniipramod: It is a very good site if you want to get in-depth. Although I have not visited there now in a few years17:49
narothepharohit uses the thunar file browser17:49
narothepharohi dont know how to change that17:49
pramodrishi: not yet... currently busy with exams... will complete exams first... then will take a look at it... :)17:49
pramodHey guys got a question...17:50
pramodAm a student of computer science and engineering... With ur experience... which linux distribution u recommend me to use?17:51
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: hmm mine opens in dolphin too... I'm not sure what to tell you17:51
narothepharohjonfhancock: i have tried to uninstall and install too17:51
rickeyadept manger keep frezing up17:52
jonfhancockpramod: I'm a cs student too.  I've settled on kubuntu17:52
jonfhancocknarothepharoh: you mean uninstall and install wine? or kubuntu?17:52
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mefisto__how to make konqueror default file browser? is that the problem jonfhancock and narothepharoh?17:52
rishiif follow lfs then it's very good17:52
pramodok.. thanks... Kubuntu is felxible... and can play a lot with it even if it's risky... :P17:52
jonfhancockrickey: use apt-get on the command line.  it's easier and faster17:52
narothepharohmefisto: yes17:52
rishipramod: u  can find me in the channel of lfs-support also17:52
rishiwith name peeyush17:52
narothepharohjonfhancock: wine17:52
geniipramod: The programming tools in KDE like KDevelop make Kubuntu preferable for the *buntu set of linux if you plab to do programming, etc17:53
genii*plan17:53
rickeywhat is the reset command17:53
mefisto__narothepharoh: first, start konqueror (alt-F2, then type konqueror)17:53
genii!aptfix | rickey17:53
ubotturickey: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:53
jonfhancockpramod: I'm also using eclipse for developing in Java, C++ and PHP17:53
BluesKajmefisto__, Open Konqueror/Settings/Configure Konqueror/File Associations/ under "Known Types" choose Inode/System Directory/Application Preference Order , move Konqueror to the top , click apply, close konq configure.Then open Konqueror Settings on the toolbar and choose "Configure View Profiles",choose "File Managaement",then save17:53
jonfhancockpramod: which is nice because it's cross platform17:53
rishipromod:do u want to ask any question abot linux from scratch??17:54
mefisto__what BluesKaj said ^^17:54
narothepharohmefisto: The command "konqueror" failed to run:17:54
narothepharohFailed to execute child process "konqueror" (No such file or directory)17:54
pramodrishi: Thanks for the help... will really need you...17:54
viperserv2i hate raid1 so much17:54
genii!helpersnack | BluesKaj17:54
rishiok thak u17:54
ubottuBluesKaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:54
pramodrishi: currently i got exams... so will look at it after exams...17:54
rishiok17:55
sujithHi can anyone help me with how can i install tar.gz file17:55
pramodrishi: can i get ur contacs? msn...17:55
BluesKajmefisto__, the same goes for 'system directory '17:55
sujiththis is a theme file17:55
jonfhancocksujith: you don't really install a tar.gz, you just unzip it17:55
rishiyes17:55
sujithya i unzipped it17:55
jonfhancockso what was inside?17:55
narothepharohmefisto: i am installing it now17:55
geniisujith: Firstly: Was it some program thet you could not install by the package manager that you need this tar.gz file for17:55
rishiu can contat me on my email17:55
sujithi want to install a theme file which is in tar.gz format17:55
rishicpeeyush@gmail.com17:56
mefisto__narothepharoh: did you remove konqueror?17:56
narothepharohmefisto: no17:56
sujithi want to install a new theme rishi17:56
sujithit is tar.gz format17:56
rishipramod:in which standered u r studying????17:56
narothepharohmefisto: i dont think so unless when i updated it did it17:56
sujithi unzipped it17:56
rishisujith:u just untar it17:56
sujithya17:57
pramodrishi: final year.. University of Mauritius...17:57
BluesKajmefisto__, one more thing , choose directory in the inode tree as well as sytem directory17:57
sujithbut i dont know how to install in linux17:57
rishisujith:then17:57
jonfhancocksujith: is there a README or INSTALL file in the folder that was created?17:57
sujithit is theme file17:57
pramodrishi: BSc... :D17:57
mefisto__BluesKaj: it's narothepharoh that needs help with konqueror17:57
sujithbut i think i need to compile it17:57
sujithright?17:57
rishipramod:ok i am a first year student from india17:58
rishii am doing B.TECH in computer science17:58
jonfhancocksujith: maybe, but maybe not.  It may just be one of those things you drop into a folder, or run a script17:58
jonfhancocksujith: compiling can be complicated17:58
rishisujith:is there any reame file??17:58
geniisujith:Fast theme install instructions in KDE http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Install-KDE-Themes/Icons17:58
sujiththere is no readme file17:59
rishisujith:ok17:59
pramodrishi: cool... great ambitions... ;)17:59
rishiso just follw genii url17:59
rishiit's better17:59
rishipramod:thank u17:59
rishisujith:r u using KDE???18:00
BluesKajoops sorry mefisto__ ;) I hope he read my post18:00
sujithyes18:00
BluesKajtoo many tasks18:01
pramodGot to reinstall Linux 8.04 in the end of next month?18:01
rishiok then follow that url18:01
mefisto__BluesKaj: he was having trouble even starting konqueror. narothepharoh, is konqueror working now?18:01
narothepharohi am still getting this error  Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c".   The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported.18:02
BluesKajtrying to open konq in wine ?18:02
rishisujith:that url has complete refrence for u just follow it18:02
narothepharohmefisto_: i have konqueror all set now and still this18:02
rishigenii;thank u for that url18:03
BluesKajnarothepharoh, in wine ?18:03
mefisto__BluesKaj: trying to navigate to the wine c: drive directory, in konqueror18:03
narothepharohblueskaj: i did what you wrote to make konqueror default18:03
fideliohi18:03
narothepharohi dont know whats up with wine18:04
BluesKajnarothepharoh, ok good18:04
fidelioanybody knows the command to list hda devices?18:04
narothepharohit was working fine before i updated to 8.0418:04
geniirishi: np18:04
mefisto__narothepharoh: what if you replace the ~ with /home/narothepharaoh/ ?18:04
Lynourefidelio: not sure what you mean,  ls /dev/hda*  maybe18:05
BluesKajnarothepharoh, what are you trying to run on wine ?18:05
fideliothanks Lyn: this command does not work unfortunately18:05
narothepharohBlueskaj: a windows game marine sharpshooter or anything18:06
narothepharohnothing works18:06
Lynourefidelio: can you tell in different words what you want?18:06
mefisto__narothepharoh: go to your ~/.wine directory and make sure the drive_c dir is still there18:07
fideliolist all my hda devices to get info on my external HD18:07
BluesKajnarothepharoh, you don't need to use konq to navigate to the game18:07
mefisto__fidelio: what about ls /dev/sd*18:09
Lynourefidelio: that command I gave you should list all devices (partition device nodes) for hda, if there is none, the system might not see hda at all18:09
BluesKajnarothepharoh, find the game-install.exe and  , right click on it , choose install with , choose wine18:09
rishiok buy buy to all18:09
narothepharohBlueskaj: it works to install it but when i try to run it i get nothing18:10
rishii just ask one more intersting thing18:10
mefisto__narothepharoh: is it a directx game?18:10
rishiububtu i totally free even shiping also18:10
narothepharohmefisto_: yes18:10
rishiso how any orhanizer of all thise earn money for it???/18:11
fidelioLyn: this is what i get -ls: cannot access /dev/hda*: No such file or directory18:11
narothepharohwine18:11
mefisto__narothepharoh: I've never got wine to run anything directx18:11
BluesKajnarothepharoh, open it with wine as well18:11
MkopI'm trying to setup printers, but there is no printers module in KControl18:11
asdasdqweqweqw I am unable to drag windows from one virtual desktop to another after installing compiz. Is there something I am missing? I tried several methods I found using google, but none worked18:11
mefisto__fidelio: try ls /dev/sd* instead of hda18:12
narothepharohBlueskaj: i try to open it with wine but nothing happens18:12
pramodWhere can i get some idea about Fedora Linux?18:12
rishipramod:u cah go to fedora site18:13
rishior join chnnel of fedora18:13
BluesKajmaybe mefisto__ has a point , about it requiring directX , there maybe a workaround but Ican't recall now what that is18:13
pramodwat's the fedora channel?18:13
fidelioLyn:/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda4  /dev/sda518:13
rishipramod:u can find it in IRC channel list18:13
rishieasily18:13
Lynourefidelio: so no hda at all.18:14
rishipramod:or use fedora forums18:14
rishipramod:on fedora web site18:14
pramodok thanks18:14
Mkopdoes anyone have any ideas for me?18:14
rishiMkop;pls tell ur problem18:15
narothepharohwell what do i do about this?   Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c".  The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported.18:15
Mkopthere is no Printers module in KControl18:15
MkopI should point out, I'm using andLinux and whatever KDE stuff I have I installed via Synaptic18:15
rishiMkop;so u want to use printer???18:16
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mefisto__Mkop: printers is under the peripherals section in kcontrol. Also in systemsettings18:16
rishipromod:http://fedoraproject.org/18:16
rishipromod: http://fedoraproject.org/18:17
Mkopit's supposed to be under peripherals, but isn't18:17
BluesKajnarothepharoh, the forums all seem to suggest installing cedega to play directX games on wine18:17
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pramodrishi: thanks i got it...18:17
mefisto__narothepharoh: what about ~/.wine  ??  does that exist? is there anything inside that dir?18:17
rishipromod: ok so find it there18:18
BluesKajok errands to do , BBL18:18
rishiMkop:is problem is solved???/18:18
narothepharohBlueskaj: how do i get cedega? i tried sudo apt-get but it says couldnt find it18:19
rishiis any one have any idea about MANDRIVA??18:19
Mkoprishi: no18:19
mefisto__narothepharoh: cedega is a commercial version of wine18:19
Mkopthe module is not there - peripherals contains Joystick, Mouse, and Storage Media18:19
rishiMkop:r u using root???18:20
pramodwell after seeing the net... and looking everywhere... i think Kubuntu is the best option...18:20
Mkopyes18:20
mefisto__Mkop: what about in systemsettings?18:20
geniinarothepharoh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega             the CVS link18:20
pramodit's been more popular than fedora18:20
rishipromod: ok18:21
Mkopdo you mean System Administration in KControl?18:21
Mkopthere's no printers in there18:21
rishipromod: is ur printer is supportaable to linux18:21
mefisto__Mkop: in kmenu, system settings, or type systemsettings in konsole18:21
rishipromod: soory i am just asking to Mkop18:22
LynoureMkop: and you are in kde3?18:22
rishiMkop: is ur printer is supportaable to linux18:22
Mkopbash: systemsettings: command not found18:22
MkopI haven't even gotten to the part of adding the printer itself yet18:23
rishiMkop: is ur printer is supportaable to linux???18:23
Mkophow do I know what version of kde I have?18:23
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mefisto__Mkop: are you running kubuntu?18:23
MkopI'm running andLinux, and I should be able to access the printer via samba18:23
geniiMkop: in Konsole:      lsb_release -a18:23
Mkopno, I'm running andLinux with some KDE stuff installed18:23
geniiOh KDE ver18:24
Lynourewhat is andLinux?18:24
Mkopit's a thing to run linux natively in Windows18:24
geniiMkop: rightclick KMenu..Panel Menu..Help...About KDE18:24
tales_2010is there a way to change the way you open applications or files on kde4? I want to change it to double-click instead of only one..18:25
MkopI'm using KDE release 3.5.818:25
rishitales_2010;u go to the system seetings18:26
LynoureMkop: http://www.andlinux.org/faq.php point "Printer Setup"18:26
mefisto__Mkop: but it's not kubuntu, right?18:26
Mkopno, it's not kubuntu18:26
LynoureMkop: and next time maybe #andLinux18:26
rishitales_2010:then u can easily find it there18:26
MkopI'm trying to follow the instructions there, but there is no Printers Module in KControl18:27
geniiMkop: How did you decide #kubuntu was the place to get kde/andLinux support?? ;)18:27
MkopI was in #ubuntu and they suggested I ask here18:27
tales_2010rishi: oh that's right, thank you18:27
MkopandLinux is running on/in/around (I'm not sure which) ubuntu18:27
mefisto__Mkop: you could try installing kde-systemsettings, if your distro is ubuntu-based18:29
freitasxhello18:29
rishitales_2010:ok18:29
rishitales_2010:ur welcome18:30
rishifreitasx;hi18:30
freitasxhello18:30
freitasxI'from Brazil18:30
rishifreitasx:can i help u???18:30
freitasxand I don speak english well18:31
freitasx:)18:31
rishifreitasx:so what????18:31
pramodfreitasx: do not worry.. we speak english well.... :)18:31
freitasx:)18:31
freitasxI know18:31
genii!br | freitasx If you ask clearly in English here we may be able to assist, otherwise18:32
ubottufreitasx If you ask clearly in English here we may be able to assist, otherwise: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:32
tales_2010freitasx: or speak to me in pm and I'll translate your question :P18:32
freitasxok18:32
geniiRemember to register if you haven't already to be able to PM18:32
MkopOK, I installed kde-systemsettings, but there's no printers item in there either18:33
freitasxI was using the virtualbox  but I discoverd that it was a bug because my system dont work very well18:33
rishifreitasx:pls exlian18:34
rishiexplain18:34
pramodCan anyone tell me wat's the virtualbox???18:35
freitasxthe system before some minutes no boot more18:35
freitasxvirtualbox-ose18:35
faderhvaluhm...any work around the Audio driver crash when restarting X in 8.04 ? or is a reboot the only solution?18:35
freitasxthereÅ› a book this program18:35
freitasxthere Å› a bog in the kernel 2.618:36
rishifreitasx:i thnk no18:36
mefisto__faderhval: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart18:36
rishifreitasx:pls tell commplete version of kernel18:37
freitasx2.6.24.16-generic18:37
faderhvalthanks18:37
rishifreitasx:wait for while i am jst checking it18:38
freitasxIḿ install again windows Xp with virtualbox18:38
rishifreitasx:why???18:38
freitasxbecause I can boot my virtualsystem18:38
freitasxcan't18:39
to0omhi all18:39
to0ommy kded has a continous cpu usage of 100%, does anyone know why?18:39
mefisto__Mkop: does "kcmshell printers"  do anything?18:39
faderhvalmefisto__: thanks but it didn't work i still get "Xine was unable to initiallzie any audio drivers"18:40
Mkopkcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'printers'.18:40
rishito0om:what linux u r using??18:40
to0omrishi: kubuntu hardy heron18:40
rishito0om:tell me configratioj of ur system18:40
rishito0om:configartion18:41
to0omrishi: nothing special, i run kde with (mostly) default settings18:41
to0omrishi: and i'm using dualhead18:41
mefisto__Mkop: is kdeprint installed? I'm out of ideas after this one18:41
Mkopno, it wasn't18:42
MkopI'm installing it now18:42
rishito0om:dualhead???18:43
to0omrishi: 2 monitors18:43
to0omrishi: i have a notebook and an external dvi display attached18:43
Mkopok, that fixed it :-)18:44
rishito0om:i am just asking confrigation of ur cpu18:44
rishito0om:e.g. processer,ram etc18:44
geniiMkop: I think "printers" is a module which is bundled in kde-guidance metapackage18:44
to0omrishi: cpu configuration? intel core 2 duo 2x2.0 ghz, 2 gb of ram18:44
to0omrishi: asus a8js notebook18:45
rishito0om:ok18:46
rishito0om:is this problem comes last days or comes regularly18:46
to0omrishi: yesterday, i migrated to hardy, and since then i have this problem18:47
rishito0om:do install any new software or a new hardware???18:48
rishito0om:do u install any new software or a new hardware???18:48
to0omrishi: well, yesterday i installed kubuntu and after first boot, i installed lots of things, such as apache, php, mysql server, thunderbird, ...18:48
to0omrishi: no hardware changes18:49
rishito0om:ok18:49
rishito0om:there is something in ur softwares which is unsupported or courrepted18:49
to0omrishi: and why should that lead to 100% cpu usage of kded?18:50
rishito0om:i don't understand what is kded is u mean kde???18:51
to0omthanks rishi for you help, but i guess you don't know what i'm talking about18:52
geniiI noticed this 100% usage with kded will happen if you are trying to run for instance a kde4 app from in kde318:52
to0omrishi: kded is the KDE daemon18:52
rishito0om:ok18:53
rishito0om:i am asking because i am just confused18:53
to0omgenii: there's no kde4 app running18:53
rishito0om:so go to control centre or in system settings as root18:53
to0omi don't even have the libs at this time18:53
SSJ_GZto0om: I think I heard somewhere that device auto-mounting can cause 100% kded CPU usage with KDE3.5.918:53
rishito0om:and check out about any running services18:54
to0omSSJ_GZ: that could be the problem18:54
to0omSSJ_GZ: i'm using device automount18:54
slow-motionre18:54
SSJ_GZto0om: explore in Section~\ref{sec:stubbornsetswith_h}.18:54
SSJ_GZoops18:54
SSJ_GZto0om: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdelibs/+bug/19447418:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 194474 in kdelibs "[hardy] kded in loop (100%CPU) when using 'mount automatically'" [Undecided,In progress]18:54
SSJ_GZStupid Klipper!18:54
to0omSSJ_GZ: sounds like my problem18:55
to0omok i'll dig into it18:55
to0omthanks for you help guys18:55
SSJ_GZnp:)18:55
darkmatterhi18:57
rishigenni:so what the solution of that problem???18:57
darkmatteris it true that Dolphin for 3.5.9 is not maintained?18:58
geniirishi: When I had that kded issue I just forcibly killed it.18:59
SSJ_GZdarkmatter: It's certainly not maintained by the guy who started the project.18:59
darkmatterSSJ_GZ that's rather diplomatic answer :)18:59
rishigenni:but that's not the solution dude18:59
SSJ_GZdarkmatter: Also the correct one ;)19:00
albuntuis there any gui manager for lamp in kde ?19:00
geniirishi: I know :)19:00
darkmatteri just come across the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/136695 and I was shocked19:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 136695 in kdebase "Cutting and pasting files with Dolphin does not work properly" [Unknown,Fix released]19:01
rishialbuntu:lamp meams???19:01
darkmatteraha, ubottu knows more19:01
geniialbuntu: No. server comes without gui for security. Instead, install a web control panel for which program you prefer gui control of.19:02
albuntugenii: ok you mean like phpmyadmin , webmin and things like this ? will them do the trick ?19:03
fdovingdarkmatter: yeah, you should change the default filemanager back to konqueror. dolphin-kde3version is broken and won't be fixed.19:04
fdovingit just looks rather good.19:04
fdovinga nice alternative file manager.19:04
darkmatterfdoving: i've done that already... except... why is it set up as default in KDE3 Heron, which came out 2 weeks ago?19:05
melkorhello I have just installed kde3 and I am wondering how do I make the small 4x4 application launchers19:06
fdovingdarkmatter: the majority wanted dolphin to be the default. it was discussed early in the development cycle. for the record, i voted against it beeing default.19:06
darkmatterfdoving: it is not very fortunate...19:08
darkmatterfdoving: i consider it showstopper for recomending system to newbies19:09
darkmatterfdoving: nevermind, thanks to info19:10
fdovingdarkmatter: it is, but changing back to konqueror is rather simple, even for new users. (right-click folder -> properties -> wrench -> move konqueror to the top of the list)19:10
rishi_dhingraalbuntu:lamp meams???19:10
stefan-f!usb19:10
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:10
rishi_dhingratherer is a network problem soory for delay19:11
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darkmatterfdoving: well, it is PR disaster..."try this cool system, but do not forget to change default file manager for a one more reliable"...19:13
darkmatterfdoving: anyway, it is not your fault19:14
melkorIs there a problem with dolphin19:14
fdovingdarkmatter: yep.19:14
D_Eaglei m facing serious problem in kubuntu, I can't shutdown my computer ! :(can any body help ?big problem while shutting down... i always hard shutdown my computer :(19:15
D_Eagle just blank screen appears and stays like that19:19
jussi01D_Eagle: what happens when you do: sudo shutdown -h now19:21
jussi01?19:21
wojci_hi all19:21
D_Eaglejust blank screen appears and stays like that19:21
darkmatteryou can at least try ALT SYSRQ R , S, E, I, U, B ke combination to avoid cold reboot19:22
D_Eaglein that blank screen, if i press ctrl + alt+ backspace, login screen appears from where if i shutdown, kubuntu shutdowns.. but still my computer doesn't turn off19:22
BluesKajD_Eagle, are you running hardy with an ati graphics card ?19:22
D_Eaglenope19:22
wojci_how can i add repositories to kubuntu 7.04?19:22
D_Eaglein  hardy19:23
fdoving!repositories | wojci_19:23
ubottuwojci_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories19:23
D_Eaglebut with intel 945 chipset19:23
D_Eagleit used to be okay before19:23
wojci_thanks19:23
D_Eaglebut.. after i installed few things. like avant window navigator and made few changes in login manager thenthe problem started19:23
BluesKajahh, kde4 ?19:24
D_Eagleyeah kde419:25
D_Eaglebut the problem is there in kde3 too19:25
BluesKajok, perhaps the ppl at #kubuntu-kde4 can help19:25
D_Eaglei just been thru there19:26
rishi_hi19:26
D_Eagle:D19:26
rishi_i am back19:26
D_Eaglethey referred me there19:26
D_Eaglehere19:26
wesley!adeptfix19:27
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:27
BluesKaj!avant19:28
ubottuFactoid avant not found19:28
MintLarsHi, I need some help debugging. The X-server crashes with sig11 when trying to log into first class client. However, there's at least a third party involved, since login in fcc doesn't cause the crash when it's the only app running on the desktop. I need to know what to do to send some relevant bug info.19:28
francesco!it19:32
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:32
viperserv2how do i install freens?19:32
darkmatter!fstab19:32
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions19:32
D_Eagle!shutdown19:35
ubottuFactoid shutdown not found19:35
D_Eagle!halt19:35
ubottuFactoid halt not found19:35
faderhvalanyone in here been succesfull with WoW on 8.04 hardy??19:39
D_Eagle!logout19:40
ubottuFactoid logout not found19:40
alexmanhello19:42
alexmani have a question19:42
BunnyRevolutionask19:42
D_Eaglethen u shud ask :D19:42
alexmani recently discovered my monitor supports 1600X1200 res, but once i enabled my nvidia drivers in linux it doesnt support my res19:42
alexmanso my prob is how do i get my nice 1600X1200 res?19:43
BluesKajD_Eagle, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for aline that says "composite = 0" , change that line to "composite = enable"19:44
alexmananyone?19:45
D_Eaglethere isn't any line like "composite"19:46
BluesKajSection "Extensions"19:47
BluesKaj  Option "Composite" "Enable"19:47
BluesKajEndSection19:47
D_EagleBluesKaj, my xorg.conf doesn't even contain "composite" word :S19:47
BluesKajcopy and paste those lines to the bottom of the file and save , if you have permissions19:47
D_Eagleoh sure19:48
D_Eagleokie..hope this solves my problem :)19:48
D_Eaglethnx for  everything19:48
BluesKajthank me if it works19:48
viperserv2hmm with freenx what windows should i use?19:49
viperserv2kde or gnome19:49
alexmangnome19:49
alexmani recently discovered my monitor supports 1600X1200 res, but once i enabled my nvidia drivers in linux it doesnt support my res19:50
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Walzmyn!dolphin19:54
ubottuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.19:54
bindeslt19:54
PovAddictI have compiz, and I set it to use the desktop cube19:55
PovAddicthow do I add more desktops?19:55
Fujisantrivia: Which scifi movie stars Bill Clinton?19:55
FujisanPovAddict oh man i missed ya19:55
PovAddictif I go to Configure desktops and change the count, the change doesn't take effect19:56
WalzmynPovAddict, are you using the gui?19:56
Fujisandid you miss me too PovAddict?19:56
Fujisan=p19:56
darkmatterfstab now looks unfamiliar, what does the <pass> parameter means?19:56
PovAddictand I can't find it on CompizConfig either19:56
WalzmynPovAddict, compiz calls their desktops viewports - that's what your looking for.19:57
PovAddict"Viewport switcher" has no option for number of viewports19:57
FujisanPovAddict listen to Walzmyn19:57
wayneandleannecan somebody help me please, on running mythtv-setup i get an error "cannot login to database" can anybody help?19:58
PovAddictfound it - it's in General Options :)19:58
FujisanPovAddict you are welcome19:59
Fujisan:)19:59
Fujisanwe are friends now PovAddict?19:59
PovAddictalthough the pager on the KDE panel still shows two20:00
claydcon someone point me in the right direction to set up dual monitors (spanned desktop)20:01
FujisanPovAddict20:02
Fujisanmy best friend on the globe20:02
Fujisanbye20:02
FujisanNicolas20:02
FujisanAlvarez20:02
giacomo!it20:04
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:04
wayneandleanneis there anybody here with any experiance with mythtv?20:05
claydany ideas on dual screen setup.  i dont know why i can find this.  I am using 8.0420:07
ekAnyone here know why my sound would stop working once I try to play music via Amarok or MPlayer?20:07
ekWhen I log into KDE, it works fine. All KDE sounds work. But, as soon as I open Amarok nothing works anymore.20:07
ekclayd: http://www.astahost.com/info.php/help-using-dual-monitors-kde-kubuntu_t12101.html20:08
ekThat help?20:08
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European-Africanhey guys, just installed kde-desktop for ubuntu, and i am very confused? like where is the synapic package manager?20:09
claydyou have to install it.20:09
claydsudo apt-get install synapic20:09
claydsomething like that20:09
European-Africandoes it not come preinstalled20:09
claydno20:10
European-Africanwhat is adept20:10
claydi just installed it this morning20:10
p_quarleswell, Adept comes preinstalled20:10
faisali want to learn about installing grub and playing with it. Plz help me20:10
p_quarlesthat is the KDE graphical apt manager20:10
jussi01!grub | faisal20:10
ubottufaisal: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto20:10
claydwhat the last person said :)20:10
European-Africanwhat is the best package manager for kde20:10
faisalThx alot dear20:11
European-Africanthe one that comes with it?20:11
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: adept is the equivalant20:11
claydi like synapic20:11
European-Africanor the spm20:11
p_quarlesEuropean-African, it depends on the distro20:11
BunnyRevolutionadept works well20:11
p_quarlesfor Kubuntu, adept is the best; some people like synaptic, but that requires Gtk libs20:11
usamahashimiHello Everyon!20:11
ubuntumy kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron linux is not playing .mp3. Can anyone help in teling how to configure Amarok?20:11
fdoving!mp3 | ubuntu20:11
ubottuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:11
European-Africanok, will try adept, this is all so confusing coming from gnome!20:12
usamahashimiHow can I install my (restricted) nvidia driver?20:12
claydso my turn.  any ideas on setting up multiple screens20:12
European-Africanthanx20:12
p_quarlesEuropean-African, you can also use aptitude (an ncurses program) or just command line apt20:12
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: actually, i think you'll enjoy it20:12
acemocan i configure the volume of flashplayer or firefox..?20:12
faisalHow to get the classical KDE menu?20:12
BunnyRevolutionacemo: configure?20:12
usamahashimi!nvidia20:13
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:13
European-Africanok thanx agian20:13
BunnyRevolutionfaisal: i assume your using kde420:13
faisalya20:13
BunnyRevolutionthere is an option for that20:13
acemoBunnyRevolution: the sound of flash is about 3 times as loud as all other sound20:13
faisalplz20:13
claydthanks20:13
faisalwhere is the option of KDe clasic menue?20:14
usamahashimican anyone tell me that how can i install (restricted) nvidia driver?20:14
European-Africanhow do you filter apps in adept? like just to games?20:14
jussi01!nvidea | usamahashimi20:15
ubottuFactoid nvidea not found20:15
jussi01!nvidia | usamahashimi20:15
ubottuusamahashimi: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:15
usamahashimijussi01: I check that but I can not find the restricted driver option in control panel20:16
usamahashimijussi01: its missing20:16
graholaA!!!20:16
jussi01!es | gra20:16
ubottugra: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.20:16
European-AfricanBunnyRevolution: could u help me. how do you filter apps in adept? like just to games?20:16
ifroog_European-African, Simply search for "game"20:16
jussi01usamahashimi: did you look in the advanced section?20:16
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: there is a menu "add/remove programs"20:16
BunnyRevolutionon you K menu20:16
BunnyRevolutionthere is a game's menu there20:16
usamahashimijussi01: yes, i know that it used to be there but in kubuntu hardy heron, its missing20:17
European-Africanok thanx20:17
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: something you might consider is looking at different linux game sites on the inet20:17
jussi01usamahashimi: are you on kde3 or 4?20:17
European-Africanok will do20:17
BunnyRevolutionthat way you can peruse thier sites and find games that suits you before trial and error install20:17
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: what kind of games are you looking for?20:17
usamahashimijussi01: i am using kde 320:17
European-African3d multiplayer shooter20:18
ifroog_BunnyRevolution, whats the best  lan game out there ?20:18
BunnyRevolutionah, there are several i can recommend20:18
jussi01usamahashimi: install jokey-kde20:18
Nix3rrriam using ktorrent. when i launch it. it downloads at good speed. then after some time it decreases and gradually to zero speed. stailed. why?20:18
jussi01!info tremulous | European-African20:18
ubottueuropean-african: tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-4 (hardy), package size 645 kB, installed size 1512 kB20:18
usamahashimi jussi01package jokey-kde not found20:19
acemois there a way to lower the volume of flashplayer in firefox? atm flashplayer is about 3 times as loud as the rest of the system20:19
administratorh20:19
jussi01usamahashimi: my bad, jockey-kde20:19
European-Africanubottu: i have installed it? but dont know how to use it:)20:19
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: i assume like CTF, Quake, UnReal Tourney20:19
usamahashimijussi01: jockey-kde is already the newest version20:19
ifroog_European-African, Nexuiz20:20
jussi01!bot | European-African20:20
ubottuEuropean-African: I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)20:20
Nix3rrriam using ktorrent. when i launch it. it downloads at good speed. then after some time it decreases and gradually to zero speed. stailed. what can be wrong?20:20
European-Africanok will try your suggestions, just looking on the net now20:20
usamahashimijussi01: ok download started, thanks20:20
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jussi01usamahashimi: :)20:21
mwewhat package provides X includes?20:21
European-Africanlol20:21
mweI'm trying to compile a window decoration style and ./configure complains about missing X includes.20:21
ifroog_European-African, http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/20:21
jussi01!info nexuiz | European-African20:22
ubottueuropean-african: nexuiz: A fast-paced 3D first-person shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4-1 (hardy), package size 657 kB, installed size 2080 kB20:22
jussi01!games20:22
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php20:22
European-Africanifroog_and ubottu: ok will try, looks good20:22
BunnyRevolutionnexuiz is a good first person shooter20:23
fitzgeraldanyone else having trouble enabling the desktop cube in compiz fusion through simple-ccsm?20:23
European-Africanstill trying to learn how to use the package manager and everything20:23
jussi01European-African: its simple, open adept, search for the package, click install, cliack apply20:24
European-Africani was playing alien-arena but it had problems20:24
European-Africanjussi01: it is not a particular package i want, i like to browse20:25
European-Africangnome had a good browsing environment20:25
jussi01European-African: use the tags on the right - they help :)20:26
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: i suspect your talking about firefox?20:27
BunnyRevolutionas a browsing environment?20:27
European-Africanwhen i click them they do not filter the apps20:27
jussi01European-African: drag and drop to the i want/i do not want boxes20:27
European-Africanno, browsing the apps, like on adept or spm20:28
faderhvalhey again peeps...im having some troubles with my video driver: I can install it in a terminal with out X of course and then start x back up again how ever if i reboot i can\t load KDM and I am forced into recovery mode and do an xfix to reconfigure my xorg.conf  any ideas_20:28
faderhval?20:28
fitzgerald anyone else having trouble enabling the desktop cube in compiz fusion through simple-ccsm?20:28
jussi01fitzgerald: you may want to ask in #compiz-fusion20:29
fitzgeraldK20:29
BunnyRevolutionEuropean-African: you may be comfortable with synaptic.  you can install this if you wish.20:29
BunnyRevolutionas that is what your used to.  you need to do what's comfortable for you20:30
ekHrm. This really is rather strange.20:30
ekI don't understand what happens.20:30
European-AfricanBunnyRevolution: i think it is still on from gnome setion, will try find it20:30
koen_hello20:31
BunnyRevolutionyou can open up a terminal and type in "sudo aptitude install synaptic"  be aware that it will install other programs you would not normally use in kubuntu20:31
BluesKajsynaptic works just fine in kubuntu. I use it more than adept20:31
BunnyRevolutionhi koen_20:31
BunnyRevolutionek: what is strange?20:32
koen_how is it going out there?20:32
BluesKajit goes20:32
BunnyRevolutionfor me, great.  sunny weather, and a lazy afternoon20:33
koen_nice  :d20:33
European-Africanok found it20:33
European-Africanthanx20:33
BunnyRevolutionnp.  your welcome20:33
koen_are there people here who work with ubuntu ultimate edition?20:34
koen_???20:35
Matt1728can someone tell me what is the best browser20:35
koen_ are there people here who are familiarwith ubuntu ultimate edition?20:35
jussi01!mint | koen_20:36
ubottukoen_: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate20:36
European-Africani cant find the control center button they keep talking about, is it the systems setting button?20:36
jussi01!best > Matt172820:36
DragnslcrMatt1728- lynx, by far20:37
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powertool08what are the different ways to get an embedded terminal?20:38
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Matt1728cool thanks ill try lynx20:38
BluesKajEuropean-African, system settings/advanced20:38
jussi01Matt1728: lynx is a terminal browser...20:38
Matt1728really?20:38
jussi01yes...20:38
jussi01!info lynx20:38
ubottulynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 1140 kB, installed size 4880 kB20:38
Matt1728so just plain text?20:39
jussi01yes20:39
Matt1728ahh20:39
European-AfricanBluesKaj, there is no system>>settings20:39
Matt1728is there anything better than firefox because it crasher for no reason on my computer20:39
jussi01Matt1728: what are you looking for in abrowser? then maybe we can help you?20:39
European-Africanthere is system>>services20:40
Matt1728like a firefox type20:40
BluesKajEuropean-African, look in the k-menu20:40
jussi01!browsers | Matt172820:40
ubottuMatt1728: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)20:40
European-Africanok found it20:40
jussi01Matt1728: try some of those and find what you like20:40
dhqcould anyone help me with my nvidia 8600m gt20:40
Matt1728thanks :)20:40
European-Africanthanx BluesKaj20:41
ifroog_dhq, No, No one can help !..20:41
ifroog_:D20:41
dhqifroog_: lol20:41
dhqifroog_: howcome ur not on #20:42
ifroog_dhq, Wazap !20:42
European-AfricanBluesKaj, i do not think that is the control center, i want the one that loads when u type kcontrol in the terminal20:42
Tokeiitoevening20:42
European-Africanthey said there was a button on the kmenu20:42
European-Africanbut i cant find it20:43
dhqifroog_: how ya doin20:43
ifroog_dhq, cool !20:43
jussi01European-African: there is no menu icon for kcontrol20:43
mefisto__European-African: you can edit the menu and add kcontrol20:43
BluesKajEuropean-African, alt+f2, type kcontrol20:43
Tokeiitodoes KDE4 has pannel similar to Vista where i can store widgets/plasmoids, or similar to OSx where i can call widgets/plasmoids by moving mouse to the edge of screen?20:43
European-Africanok thanx20:43
dhqifroog_: i upgraded to hardy20:43
European-Africanis there another way of getting to it20:44
European-Africanother than through the terminal20:44
jussi01European-African: alt+f2 kcontrol20:44
European-Africanjussi01, i think that is just a small terminal20:45
European-Africanbut thanx anyway20:45
dhqthere seems to be a problem with the nvidia graphics driver in the propritary corner20:45
ifroog_dhq, remix ?20:45
BluesKajit's the run command box , not the terminal20:45
ekBunnyRevolution: This sound card issue.20:45
European-Africani want one so i do not have to type20:46
ekBunnyRevolution: When I would log into KDE, it would play the login sound and such. No problems.20:46
dhqifroog_: naa kde320:46
ifroog_dhq, cool..20:46
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ekBunnyRevolution: Even the 'Test Sound' would work. But, once I opened Amarok, it would stop working.20:46
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ifroog_dhq, So whats the first diff you noticed ?20:46
ekUnless, I logged out and back in again.20:46
ekSo, I wasn't able to play any music.20:46
ekI'm about to test again as MPlayer seems to be working.20:46
BunnyRevolutiongreat20:46
European-AfricanBluesKaj, i think it is just a interface to the terminal20:46
dhqifroog_: well it was kinda smooth20:47
European-Africana one command terminal20:47
mefisto__European-African: right-click the Kmenu and "edit menu". Then you can add kcontrol wherever you want it to appear in the menu20:47
European-Africanmefisto__: thanx doing now20:47
ekYup. Okay. Figured it out. Just had to manually add the snd-via82xx to the /etc/modules I guess.20:48
ek*shrug*20:48
dhqifroog_: well i cant use nvidia propriaty drivers i am using vesa it sux20:48
ekAnyhow, creating playlists and finishing my unpacking. :p20:48
ifroog_dhq, Check bugzilla on this issue20:49
dhqifroog_: i have been there20:49
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European-Africanguys, do any of you know how to use tremulous?20:53
European-Africanthe keys and all20:53
European-Africanor point me to a help file20:53
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mefisto__European-African: sudo apt-get install tremulous-doc20:55
European-Africanand then where do you find it?20:55
European-Africanin the game itself?20:55
mefisto__don't know, maybe. or try typing "man tremulous"20:56
European-Africank20:56
European-Africanthanx again :)20:56
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Hacker007how to join yahoo voice chat rooms? plz if any body could help21:02
Hacker007how to join yahoo voice chat rooms? plz if any body could help21:04
BluesKajHacker007, goto yahoo.com21:05
ganastasiouhi everyone21:05
Hacker007how ti install source files in kubuntu?21:05
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ganastasioui have an ati carf and with ubuntu the tvout was working with kubuntu a black screen apears...21:05
ganastasiouanyone has a solution?21:06
mefisto__is it still working in ubuntu?21:06
ganastasioui have removed ubuntu21:07
ganastasioubut i used to have tv out with this...the same conf...21:07
ganastasiounow tv out is just a black screen21:07
mefisto__did you reinstall with kubuntu? or you just removed ubuntu-desktop?21:08
ganastasioureinstall21:08
ganastasioukde3 if u want to know21:08
mefisto__so it's not the same conf at all. are you using the proprietary driver? (Hardware Drivers in Kmenu if you have hardy)21:10
ganastasioui use the ati drivers...21:10
ganastasioui have hardy but with kde321:10
mefisto__so in Hardware Drivers, it shows the ati driver enabled?21:12
ganastasiouyeap21:13
faderhvalgood evening21:13
Mystrivengood evening21:13
faderhvaljust a quick question how do i "purge" my sytem of all nvidia display drivers?21:14
gtthow can i get my flash to work correctly, every time.21:14
jb_good evening21:14
jb_i just re-installed kubunto21:14
jb_i forgot many things21:14
jb_i want to create a file in /etc/modutils, but i can't ! ?21:15
jb_#ubuntu21:15
mefisto__ganastasiou: I think the aticonfig command can set up xorg.conf to do TVout. Try "man aticonfig" or "aticonfig --help", and take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI21:18
tzdHi, I'm trying to automount my ipodShuffle as vfat in my fstab config but once I'm in kubuntu I'm unable to mount it as user even though I'm using the parameter "user". Can someone please help?21:21
DiViN3hello there i need a resolutions for the error message : sudo: must be setuid root21:22
DiViN3anyone here nows how to resolve that as i cant seem to inst all anything with out that21:22
jb_hi, i'd like to run dolphin as super user21:23
tzdjb_: there should be an option on your right hand side saying "run/open/edit as root"... be careful with running as root though! You should know what you're doing before playing around as superuser21:24
acemothought there was a button for that in dolphin?21:24
LynoureDiViN3: you could boot in the single user mode (called Recovery mode or something) then setuid root sudo binary21:24
DiViN3Lynoure : i dont get wat u mean21:24
European-Africanhey guys, just played tremulous and i could not move, how do you frickin move?21:24
DiViN3Lynoure : Dont mind plz elaborate21:25
|Dreams|can any 1 tell me why my folders in my documents are greyed out?21:28
GothicD3vilis there any program that i can run mac os applications in kubuntu?21:28
mefisto__DiViN3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21976721:30
LynoureDiViN3: sorry, I was away for a bit21:31
mefisto__DiViN3: there's a typo in there. It should be "chown" not chwon21:31
simion314hi, in ubuntu 8.04 the video card configuration in xorg.conf had been moved in other place? now there is just a configured device21:31
tzdGothicD3vil: as far as I know you can use VMware or Virtualbox which emulates the whole mac os x... I'm not sure if there is anything similar to wine though21:32
DiViN3adminghs@divine:~$ chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo21:32
DiViN3chown: changing ownership of `/usr/bin/sudo': Operation not permitted21:32
DiViN3i m getting this error may i know how to resolve it21:32
LynoureDiViN3: mefisto__'s link looks good, though I don't think you need to boot with livecd, choosing the Recovery (or what was it called) option from grub menu should worrk21:32
GothicD3viltzd, but i need to have mac installed?21:33
mefisto__DiViN3: you have to do it as root, but since you can't sudo, you need to boot in recovery mode (which gives you root access --you don't need to type sudo) read that thread and make some notes, then reboot in recovery mode21:33
DiViN3isnt there anyother way beside going into recovery mode as i m concerned abt my uptime21:34
tzdGothicD3vil: for VMware you need to have mac operative system installed yes. Pretty sure that's the case with Virtualboc as well. With wine (which is for windows) you don't need to have the whole operating system installed21:34
|Dreams|DiViNe sudo chown user:group /usr/bin21:35
GothicD3vilthanks21:35
tzdGothicD3vil: yw21:36
neville_hello, I dunno what I did but on booting, everything goes fine, except when it's starting KDM, it just shows a busy cursor (the spinning white one) on a black screen for a short time, then dumps me to a prompt. Stopping KDM then starting it again fixes it, but that is a bit of a pain in the bum, is there another way to do it?21:37
arturjuma!help21:38
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)21:38
arturjuma!rules21:38
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:38
|Dreams|? display21:38
|Dreams|?display21:38
mefisto__neville_: try looking for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log  or see if you have a xorg.conf backup that you can restore21:41
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melkor_I'm having a little difficulty figuring out where to configure my desktop21:42
melkor_How do I turn off my touch pad.  'touch to click'21:43
neville_okay, there aren't any errors listed in the log, not even in the old ones21:43
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archconf@melkor - I'm not an expert - could that be something to do with X11.conf perhaps?21:44
archconfone of the X11 config files?21:44
melkor_I think there is a graphical one.  In gnome there is a settings panel21:45
mefisto__neville_: what about xorg.conf backups in /etc/X11 ??21:45
archconfoh - that sounds more like it, yes21:45
archconfhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/21:47
nichedoes anyone here use virtualbox?21:47
ttreadniche, I use virtualbox21:47
archconf@melkor - does that help?21:48
melkor_checkin21:48
neville_Everything looks okay, but I'll try a fresh one just quickly21:48
neville_brb21:48
nichettread, is it exactly like running the OS (save for minor performance) or are there any driver/configuration issues?21:49
archconfhas anyone here upgraded to Kubuntu 8.04 ?21:50
archconf(from 7.10)21:50
mefisto__yes21:50
|Dreams|wish i hadnt have had nothing but problems21:50
archconfI had a bit of trouble - I used the Upgrade button21:50
archconfafter restarting, "kernal panic"21:51
archconfand "not syncing"21:51
ttreadniche, it's very nice and is close to running the OS natively.  I've had no driver/configuration issues.21:51
|Dreams|well my kde thinks that my home folder is my desktop :|:|:|21:51
archconfand "cannot find /etc/arch.conf" and such things...21:51
archconfI just wanted to ask if anyone else has had similar problems...21:51
neville_okay it must have been something in xorg.conf, as a new one has fixed the problem21:52
archconfIt looks as though I need to buy a new hard disk!21:52
mefisto__archconf: did the upgrade complete normally?21:52
neville_thanks for the guidance =]21:52
nichevery good to know ttread (i'm assuming you're running xp in that virtual box though)21:52
ttreadniche, yes running Win XP Pro21:52
ttreadI was using VMWare and switched to Virtualbox because it's open source21:52
dasosmy wireless card doesn't seem to automatically prompting me for drivers (broadcom in a laptop) on my fresh install of kubuntu 8.04-kde4, any suggestions on how to get it? nothing is showing up in hardware manager21:53
nichethank you21:53
DiViN3ok thanks guys21:54
DiViN3i hv solve the problem21:54
mefisto__DiViN3: did you chown /usr/bin directory, or just /usr/bin/sudo ?21:55
DiViN3errrr....i cant remember that mefisto__21:56
archconfwell, I guess most people have not had any problems with 8.04, then...21:56
DiViN3all i can rem is that i follow from th e web21:56
DiViN3but now i can sudo already21:56
ttreadarchconf, I wiped the drive and installed clean, cuz I was in the mood to start fresh anyway21:57
ttreadso I can't offer advice on upgrade21:57
DiViN3mefisto__ : now i get this error - [04:57] * CAN'T WRITE TO TEMP DIR21:57
ttreadbut can't you just start over and install fresh?  You do have a backup right?21:58
mefisto__DiViN3: another ownership problem? at least you have sudo to fix it now21:59
DiViN3ok how to fix that now21:59
DiViN3mefisto__ : wats the command to fix the problem22:00
archconfthanks ttread - that is probably the best strategy :)22:00
DiViN3mefisto__ : i cant seem to load my bots or make my stuff work22:00
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mefisto__DiViN3: I think it's sudo chown root /tmp (change ownership of /tmp to user:root)22:04
mefisto__DiViN3: what user:group does it show for /tmp when you ls -l /22:05
mefisto__it should be root root22:06
DiViN3-rw-r--r--   1 root     root22:07
DiViN3this is wat it shows22:07
geoffreydesplains22:07
DiViN3mefisto__ its still the same22:08
mefisto__DiViN3: mine is   drwxrwxrwx  16 root root      if you don't have that d at the front, it means it's not a directory. can you cd to /tmp ?22:08
DiViN3mefisto__ : is it possible for u to just gv me the commands directly as i m not sure22:09
mefisto__DiViN3: I'm not too sure either. Just trying to work it out22:09
DiViN3mefisto__ : drwxr-xr-x   2 adminghs adminghs22:10
DiViN3i get this22:10
|Dreams|how can i reinstall kde please?22:14
DiViN3mefisto__ : is it possible for u to log into my shell n help me fix it plz22:14
DiViN3mefisto__ : you there22:17
|Dreams|ok my desktop is showing the entire contents of my home folder how i do fix?22:18
mefisto__DiViN3: I think it's this: sudo chmod 1777 /tmp22:19
mefisto__|Dreams|: did you have a crash during upgrade?22:20
DiViN3mefisto__ : it worked22:20
|Dreams|no i delted the desktop icon by mistake and without realising empties the trash22:21
DiViN3mefisto__ : i really appreiciate it thanks22:21
mefisto__np DiViN322:21
DiViN3mefisto__ : dont mind can u pm me now plz22:21
mefisto__|Dreams|: you mean you deleted the Desktop folder in your home directory?22:22
|Dreams|yep22:22
|Dreams|and i am thinking i am going to spend hours reinstalling because of this22:23
mefisto__have you tried recreating it? mkdir /home/your-username/Desktop22:23
|Dreams|yeah and rebooted didnt make a difference22:23
Walzmyn!mpeg22:24
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:24
mefisto__|Dreams|: you could create a new user and log in with that. that would probably work. Then you might want to move your old home dir files to the new home dir22:25
|Dreams|and then delete the olde username and recreate it and move it back?22:26
Walzmyn!wmv22:26
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:26
|Dreams|wouldnt sudo apt-get install kde --reinstall work?22:27
|Dreams|kde-desktop even22:27
mefisto__|Dreams|: you could rename the old home dir, then delete and recreate the username, then move everything back to the NEW old home dir22:29
mefisto__|Dreams|: but first try logging in with a new user, to see if it works. May be something else22:30
|Dreams|okie22:30
|Dreams|thanks for ur time n help22:30
faderhvalanyone got some experiance with themes/style for KDE/KDM under hardy??22:31
DiViN3mefisto__ : Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )22:33
mefisto__DiViN3: are you registered?22:35
WalzmynWhy do we have noatun and kaffine?22:35
selocanhi22:35
Walzmynhello22:35
mefisto__why? why not?22:35
Walzmynthey seem to do the same thing.22:36
selocanwhat is going on here?22:36
WalzmynI'd never heard of noatun until it just started opening when I tried to play an mpg22:36
mefisto__Walzmyn: they do the same, but differently22:36
selocanis there anybody from turkey22:36
Walzmyn<< USA22:36
Walzmynmefisto__, how so?22:37
DiViN3mefisto__ : i m not registerd so how do i register22:38
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mefisto__Walzmyn: kaffeine is probably more configurable. double-click goes to fullscreen mode, keyboard shortcuts can be customised, plays virtually any kind of media file22:39
WalzmynDiViN3, the opening little spill from the server when you log on tells you the website to go to22:39
mefisto__DiViN3: follow that freenode link, it explains how22:39
Walzmynhmm, is there a way to see a preview of my movies in dolphin? al la that other OS?22:40
Walzmynmefisto__, thanks22:40
mefisto__where does the preview play?22:41
DiViN3mefisto__ : i hv regiterd my nick sometime back so how to retrivev the password22:41
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Walzmynmefisto__, no, i mean the icon for the file. I'd like for it to show an image from the vid so I can tell them apart.22:42
mefisto__Walzmyn: I don't think dolphin can do that, but konqueror does when you hover the mouse over a file, or if you have previews on and the icons are large enough22:44
monkeybritchesThere's another OS?22:44
Walzmynmefisto__, i tried konqueror, but didn't hover. i'll give it a whirl22:44
Walzmynmonkeybritches, yeah, i saw some just at work using it. looked painfull though22:44
Walzmynjust = guys22:45
mefisto__Walzmyn: no, I'm wrong. you can switch to preview mode in dolphin. Ctrl-3 is the kb shortcut22:45
Walzmynmefisto__, i'm in that view, but all i see is the generic mpg icon, not an image from the vid22:45
monkeybritchesI'll avoid it then. I'm squeamish.22:45
Walzmyngood call, monkeybritches22:46
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monkeybritches:D22:46
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Cain_nodwhat client of irc do u use? :D22:50
monkeybritchesI like Xchat22:52
endoftheinternetI am in a failsafe sessino right now since Compiz make sthe X Server crash22:53
endoftheinternethow do I fix this?22:54
Cain_nodmonkeybritches: basicaly why?22:54
WalzmynXchat here22:54
Walzmynendoftheinternet, uninstall compiz?22:54
endoftheinternetwhats the package name?22:54
Walzmynendoftheinternet, looking22:55
endoftheinternetit says compiz isn't installed22:55
Walzmynendoftheinternet, looks like it's just "compiz"22:55
endoftheinternetwell... according to apt-get it doesn't exist22:56
endoftheinterneti need to start adept but I can't22:56
Walzmynok, if you pop your CD back in, there's an option as it boots up to fix your X config, you might try that22:56
endoftheinternetcan't remember which cd was it22:56
endoftheinternetit was*22:57
Walzmynwarning- it will overwrite a bunch of settings22:57
endoftheinterneti might be back hold on22:57
mefisto__you can get that xfix in recovery mode in hardy22:57
endoftheinternetmaybe oit is trying to find compiz but ti can't so it's failing22:58
Walzmynoh you can? that's nice.22:58
BluesKajsudo apt-get install compiz22:59
endoftheinternetmaybe kdm isn't running I did sudo killall kdm...23:00
endoftheinterneti think23:00
Cain_nodbye i love u all23:00
narothepharohhow do i open a .package file in the new 8.04?23:13
faderhvalim going nuts here anyone got time to help med with compiz ?23:13
faderhvalme*23:13
mefisto__narothepharoh: a .deb file?23:14
narothepharohmefisto: it just says .package23:14
mefisto__where did you find it?23:15
curtiswhat is a good program to manage an ipod?23:15
coreymon77curtis: itunes :P23:15
coreymon77!ipod23:15
ubottuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod23:15
mefisto__curtis: amarok23:16
curtismefisto, will that hold and play all the music?23:16
coreymon77curtis: look at ubotu23:16
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mefisto__curtis: yes, it's a great music player/library thingie23:16
nohelpherei'm not sur eif KDM is running how do you START compiz?23:16
_Angelus_guys23:17
_Angelus_can kubuntu read from Mac Os X partitions?23:17
coreymon77i believe so23:18
stdin!hfs | _Angelus_23:18
ubottu_Angelus_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE23:18
mefisto__compiz --replace23:18
curtisi am banned from the debian chat23:19
curtishow can i get back in?23:19
curtis?23:20
endoftheinternetmayeb now I hsould uninstall compiz23:20
stdincurtis: you'd have to contact one of their ops and ask23:20
endoftheinternetis there a way I can repair X from a terminal?23:21
narothepharohmefisto_: it just says .package23:21
curtisstdin, can i just change me ip adress?23:21
mefisto__narothepharoh: what is it? what are you trying to install. normally you install .deb packages23:22
stdincurtis: evading bans is against freenode policy and could earn you a k-line23:22
PhilRodcurtis: using technical means of getting round bans is not a good way to make friends23:22
narothepharohmefisto_: it is vdrift23:23
curtisi would just like to get back in that chat my best friend is in it.23:23
endoftheinternettyping compiz make sit compile then restart X23:23
mightymangreetings... can someone help me "aliening" an rpm to deb on a 32bit system? :$ please :)23:24
endoftheinternetcompile something then restart X23:24
endoftheinternetwhat do I type when I attempt to reapir X?23:24
BluesKajok curtis question , you were banned for a reason. care to share it with us ?23:24
stdincurtis: contact one of their ops then, best place to ask about this is in #freenode23:24
BluesKajmightyman, what app ?23:25
mightymanit's a driver... and I'm on a amd6423:25
mefisto__endoftheinternet: if you have hardy, reboot in recovery mode, at the end of boot process you'll see a menu, one item is xfix (attempt to fix X server).23:25
mightymanand can't do that...23:25
mightymanBluesKaj, would you mind helping me? please please please :)23:26
BluesKajmost drivers are linuxwide23:26
BluesKajwhat is the driver23:26
mightymanyeap... except this... :D can't turn the rpm to deb23:26
endoftheinternetrecovery mode on the CD or the recovery kernel?23:26
mightymanepson multifunctional driver...23:27
mefisto__recovery kernel23:27
endoftheinternetby the way I think my Vid card is failing23:27
endoftheinternetgot flashing color changing lines during boot then screen went black then everything is fine23:27
BluesKajmightyman, are there any drivers that fir your needs that end in .run ?23:28
mefisto__endoftheinternet: does it happen with livecd?23:28
endoftheinterneti might be back23:28
mightymannope..23:28
narothepharohmefisto_: it is vdrift i downloaded it from the vdrift site23:28
mightymanthe problem is that the rpm is created for 32bit systems... I've 6423:28
mightymanand I can't convert it as well to work23:29
BluesKajI've never had luck with RPM>deb23:29
mightymanI've created a lot of times....23:29
mightymanthere was no problem...23:29
mightymanexcept this23:30
mightymancan't help me ?23:30
mightymanit's not even a minute...:)23:30
dwidmann!punctuation > mightyman23:32
mightyman:|23:32
endoftheinternetxfix didn't work23:32
BluesKajmightyman, intel CPU ?23:33
endoftheinternetcan I re-install KDM?23:33
draikHow do I get k3b to accept mp3 files to burn onto an audio CD?23:33
endoftheinternetI need to delete ALL trace sof compiz23:33
endoftheinternethow do I repair KDM?23:33
mightymanBluesKaj, anything...just 32bit23:33
BluesKajwhat cpu do you run23:33
endoftheinternetme?23:34
mightymanamd23:34
BluesKajthere's an ia32 utility for intels but dunno if they work on amd23:34
endoftheinternetnothing happened until I messed with desktop effects23:34
mightymanwhat utility? that can convert an 32bit rpm to a 64bit deb ?23:35
mefisto__narothepharoh: http://autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/   (found that link on the vdrift website)23:36
BluesKajmightyman, it 's called microcode.ctl in adept and synaptic23:36
narothepharohmefisto_: I am looking at the same site right now thanks though23:36
mightymanBluesKaj, thanks I'll give a try23:37
BluesKajdoesn't do the conversion directly23:37
FuzzyTheBearGreetings , seems my kubuntu grub entry in the grub.conf of my gentoo dist is wrong .. any good document on the peculiar requirements of kubuntu for boot somewhere ? cant seem to locate a clear document ..23:37
BluesKajbut may support it23:37
mightymanbut?23:37
mightymangreat :)23:37
BluesKajdunno23:38
endoftheinterneti removed compiz23:38
endoftheinternethow do you reinstall something from apt-get?23:39
mightymanit's not the thing I'm looking for... but thanks indeed23:39
endoftheinterneti'll be back23:39
BluesKajendoftheinternet, sudo apt-get install "application" , in the terminal23:39
mightymanthanks BluesKaj, bye23:40
BluesKajgood luck , mightyman23:40
endoftheinternetis there ANY wa to reinstall KDM?23:41
endoftheinternetwill GDM work with KDE?23:41
mefisto__endoftheinternet: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm23:42
mefisto__and yes, gdm will work, but you'll have the gnome login screen23:42
FuzzyTheBearmefisto__ : is there a perticular channel to discuss grub issues with kubuntu ?23:42
* mefisto__ shrugs23:43
FuzzyTheBearthat bad eh ?  :D23:43
endoftheinternetdo I need to restart my compute rafter re-installing KDM?23:45
FuzzyTheBearyou only restart a computer whne the kernel is concerned .. restart the KDM service23:45
endoftheinternethow?23:46
endoftheinternetwait... kill it23:46
FuzzyTheBear-.-23:46
ttreadFuzzyTheBear, the grub entry for kubuntu is not unusual, I can copy the lines here if you want23:48
FuzzyTheBearthat would be most appreciated23:48
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endoftheinternetnote to self: don't kill kdm23:48
ttreadtitleUbuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic23:48
dwidmannendoftheinternet: why not?23:49
ttreadroot  (hd1,0)  <or whatever drive you installed kubuntu on>23:49
FuzzyTheBearup to now .. simple .. and i got that part23:49
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ttreadkernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=25fd4e1a-fb4f-404a-b9b5-0395339ed781 ro quiet splash23:50
endoftheinternetwell... what happened was nothing screen went crazy23:50
dwidmannendoftheinternet: though, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop|restart would be much more appropriate23:50
endoftheinternetyeah23:50
ttreadthe UUID would be different for your drive23:50
FuzzyTheBearuuid of the drive i installed on i suppose ?23:50
ttreadyes23:50
endoftheinterneti might switch to GDM23:51
FuzzyTheBear.. ill have to find that .. we cant use the drive designation ?23:51
ttreadinitrd  /initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic23:51
endoftheinternetsince i restarte dmy system and it still doe sthe same thing23:51
ttreadyes I think you can use the drive designation but I'd have to look up how23:51
endoftheinternetall I did was change desktop settings23:51
endoftheinternetcan I get a normal session in failsafe instea dof just a terminal?23:52
ttreadquiet     <last line of menu.lst entry>23:52
FuzzyTheBeari tried that and the boot hangs at the splash with the cursor coming back and forth and just stays there .. which is why i was asking23:52
endoftheinternetwhat I need to do Is get to the configuration for compiz so I can disable it23:53
endoftheinterneti NEED to23:53
endoftheinternetthe Desktop Effects configuration23:53
endoftheinternetbut I cant get to it within terminal23:54
ttreadFuzzyTheBear: are you sure this is a grub problem?  Sounds like it's booting into the kernel ok23:54
FuzzyTheBearwell here's the story so far ..23:54
endoftheinternethow can I start adept from terminal?23:55
FuzzyTheBeari had to edit the grub line for kubunto so's i wouldnt get the splash .. it seems to boot fine .. but sfter it finds all the drives and most hardware has been found .. i get a message23:55
dwidmannendoftheinternet: adept_manager23:55
FuzzyTheBearCheck ROOT = Boot..23:56
FuzzyTheBearcat /proc/cmdline or missing modules , devices23:56
FuzzyTheBearcat /proc/modules ls /dev ALERT does not exist23:57
FuzzyTheBearthat's the end result ..23:57
_dennisterhow's the feedback on hardy coming along? is the general consensus like mine? ie. tired of all these broken packages and ready to return to gutsy?23:57
endoftheinternetwait... I can open dolphin and save my conf files23:58
_dennisteralmost nothing seems to work as its supposed to23:58
endoftheinternetwhat command is it to start dolphin?23:59
mefisto___dennister: I think hardy is just a little more stable than gutsy23:59
ttreadwell you could try running grub-install from the kubuntu live cd23:59
dwidmannFuzzyTheBear: is that what it says verbatim, or what you remembered or something? (I'm googling)23:59
ttreadI take it you don't have a backup of menu.lst?23:59
endoftheinterneti think I fixed it23:59
endoftheinternetwhat commmand restarts KDM again?23:59
_dennistermefisto__: how can you say "stable" when so many important packages are broken, and stay broken?23:59
FuzzyTheBearit's redacted from the message i had .. so unless i forgot caps  etc .. it's 98% accurate id say ..23:59

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