[00:03] <platyhelminth> I lost the sound few minutes ago, I dont understand why ( I use generic kernel ) Can you help me ?
[00:06] <crimsun> platyhelminth: run the alsa-info.sh script from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[00:06] <crimsun> platyhelminth: then, tell me the url
[00:09] <platyhelminth> crimsun where is alsa-info.sh ?
[00:10] <crimsun> platyhelminth: see the URL I just gave you
[00:11] <platyhelminth> this doesn't work
[00:12] <platyhelminth> I didn't see bash: alsa-info.sh was downloadable
[00:17] <platyhelminth> http://pastebin.com/m2e0e6325
[00:17] <platyhelminth> crimsun
[00:18] <crimsun> platyhelminth: sec.
[00:23] <crimsun> platyhelminth: well, the levels are either zeroed and/or muted.
[00:24] <platyhelminth> where to remove mute
[00:24] <crimsun> platyhelminth: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset
[00:24] <platyhelminth> thank
[00:25] <platyhelminth> * Resetting ALSA...                                                     [ OK ]
[00:25] <platyhelminth> sound works
[00:26] <platyhelminth> thank again
[00:26] <crimsun> np
[00:27] <platyhelminth> But now how canHow does levels can be zeroed or muted olone ?
[00:28] <platyhelminth> How does levels can be zeroed or muted alone ?
[00:29] <crimsun> platyhelminth: by using amixer with the appropriate element string.
[00:31] <platyhelminth> amixer ?
[00:31] <crimsun> e.g., amixer set 'Master' unmute
[00:32] <crimsun> you can also use alsamixer, kmix, aumix, etc.
[02:06] <KindOne> I just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, and now i can not see my other hard drive... can someone help ?
[02:09] <Stroganoff> is it listed in /etc/fstab
[02:09] <Stroganoff> ?
[02:10] <KindOne> I dont have that folder
[02:11] <Stroganoff> that is a file
[02:12] <KindOne> where should i paste the contents of that file ??
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> !paste
[02:13] <KindOne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9898/
[02:17] <arko> hi
[02:18] <arko> how can I stop nm-applet asking for password?
[02:21] <Stroganoff> arko, add nm-applet or NetworkManager to the sudoers file..
[02:21] <arko> hmmm
[02:21] <arko> how can i do that?
[02:22] <Stroganoff> KindOne https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[02:22] <Stroganoff> arko https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[02:23] <KindOne> sudo apt-get install nm-applet
[02:23] <KindOne> arko type that inthe terminal ^^^
[02:24] <Stroganoff> i dont think so :p
[02:25] <KindOne> -.- rofl didnt work
[02:31] <cody-somerville> arko, What password?
[02:31] <cody-somerville> When does it ask you for a password and for what?
[02:37] <cody-somerville> arko, When you get back from being away, just say my full nickname to get my attention again.
[02:39] <q_a_z_steve> hey, can someone really quickly tell me the best way to use dd to backup /usr ? I need syntax using bzip, and noerror I think... HELP?
[02:41] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Hello.
[02:41] <cody-somerville> Is there any particular reason you need to use dd to do that backup?
[02:44] <cody-somerville> dd is nicknamed Data Destroyer :)
[02:44] <q_a_z_steve> bit for bit backup...
[02:45] <cody-somerville> But why not use tar?
[02:46] <q_a_z_steve> I suppose I can, but I need it to end up in bz2
[02:46] <Stroganoff> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip.....
[02:47] <Stroganoff> do you need bit for bit backup because of file corruption or what?
[02:47] <q_a_z_steve> let's say yes.
[02:48] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, the safer command would be: tar -zcf usr_backup.tar.gz /usr
[02:48] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, ...
[02:48] <q_a_z_steve> Stroganoff:  would you mind expanding that to the end
[02:48] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Why don't *you* tell us what you're trying to accomplish exactly?
[02:49] <Stroganoff> add j to the tar attributes to use bzip
[02:51] <q_a_z_steve> bit for bit backup of /usr and /home, which partitions have been zeroed out by dd if=/dev/zero of=/blah ...and... of=/home/blah
[02:51] <cody-somerville> Stroganoff, oops. :)
[02:52] <Stroganoff> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c > file.bz2
[02:52] <Stroganoff> wheres hda1 is.....
[02:52] <Stroganoff> whatever
[02:52] <Stroganoff> btw i'm not 100% sure if this works :D
[02:53] <Stroganoff> you can use partimage instead, FY
[02:53] <Stroganoff> I
[02:54] <q_a_z_steve> Stroganoff: not on /usr, partimage would backup the entire / partition
[02:54] <Stroganoff> dd backups the entire partition, too
[02:54] <q_a_z_steve> not if=/usr that will only do that directory, and it's children
[02:55] <Stroganoff> k i wasnt sure if it also works like that
[02:55] <Stroganoff> whether.
[02:55] <q_a_z_steve> will gzip do bzip2 then, are you sure about that?
[02:55] <Stroganoff> oops no
[02:56] <Stroganoff> use bzip2 -c > file.bz2
[02:56] <q_a_z_steve> I can pipe to | tar -jzcf file.bz2 can't I? with '-' ?
[02:58] <q_a_z_steve> or better not?
[02:58] <Stroganoff> no tar does not read from standard input
[02:59] <Stroganoff> its no use anyway to tar ONE huge byte stream
[03:16] <q_a_z_steve> next question: If I have used partimage split to backup another area, how do I check those files?
[03:21] <q_a_z_steve> bz2.000 and so on...
[03:22] <q_a_z_steve> Stroganoff: ??
[03:23] <Stroganoff> unzip them?
[03:24] <q_a_z_steve> with what gui app? well I first want to see the contents gui if at all possible
[03:27] <q_a_z_steve> Stroganoff:
[03:29] <Stroganoff> dont know
[03:29] <Stroganoff> go to #linux
[03:29] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville: can you help with that?
[03:29] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, What format is the file?
[03:31] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville: I have used partimage to bzip the partition
[03:33] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, There is a GUI tool
[03:34] <cody-somerville> Just open it - should work.
[03:34] <cody-somerville> What will probably happen is that it'll show just one file (the uncompressed ISO) and you can just open that file with the same program.
[03:36] <q_a_z_steve> ark doesn't like even like these, I've tried archive-manager and 7zip...
[03:37] <q_a_z_steve> this is when I pull up a piece.
[03:37] <q_a_z_steve> I assume your plan would work, if it would evaluate the whole file... 000 thru 006
[03:38] <q_a_z_steve> I'll be back later, but keep the suggestions coming
[03:39] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, file roller says it supports ISOs
[03:56] <Stroganoff> cody-somerville an ISO is something else
[03:57] <cody-somerville> Stroganoff, I thought partimage generates ISO files
[03:57] <Stroganoff> ISO is a file system
[03:58] <Stroganoff> its used for cd images
[03:58] <Stroganoff> partimage creates images of your filesystem (i.e. ext3)
[04:46] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville: Stroganoff partimage would create ISO if I didn't have it BZIP
[04:47] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, right... so decompress it and you'll have the ISO, right?
[04:48] <q_a_z_steve> atleast a 10G iso, possibly, how do I decompress, without pumping partimage back onto a drive?
[04:48] <q_a_z_steve> seriously, I can't even start...
[04:49] <arko> back
[04:50] <arko> how can I activate system sounds in Xubuntu?
[04:50] <cody-somerville> arko, There are none.
[04:50] <arko> oh
[04:50] <arko> that is sada
[04:50] <arko> sad
[04:50] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, What do you mean by "pumping partimage" back onto a drive?
[04:50] <cody-somerville> arko, Just make noises with your mouth when you click things ;p
[04:51] <arko> cody-somerville: nice idea
[04:51] <arko> thanx
[04:52] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville: nothing will open these files, so far that I've tried...
[04:52] <q_a_z_steve> as though I have to trust the partimage...
[04:53]  * cody-somerville grins at arko :)
[04:54] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, What is the file name?
[04:54] <q_a_z_steve> wheels.bz2.000 , wheels.bz2.001 --- 006 "Wheels" is my computer name
[04:55] <cody-somerville> Ah!
[04:56] <q_a_z_steve> split bz2 file
[04:58] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, Did you use the fixed size option?
[04:58] <q_a_z_steve> yeah 2037MB
[05:04] <q_a_z_steve> cody-somerville: ...
[05:06] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, I'm researching :P
[05:07] <arko> cody-somerville: my wife is asking which kind of wierd sounds I am shouting here.
[05:07] <cody-somerville> arko, Ah. That must be a bug. :P
[05:07] <arko> hahahaha
[05:08] <cody-somerville> :)
[05:10] <Odd-rationale> couldn't you just install ubuntu-sounds ?
[05:10] <cody-somerville> q_a_z_steve, the only solution I see is to md5sum check the before and after.
[05:10] <cody-somerville> Odd-rationale, Those are for the gnome desktop.
[05:11] <arko> http://www.xfce-look.org >> System Sounds
[05:11] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville: well, you could still use the .wav files. like in gdm. I like the drums... :)
[05:11] <cody-somerville> Yes.
[05:12] <cody-somerville> The only system sounds you'll get are the ones from gdm when logging in and what not.
[05:14] <arko> how can I set these drums in gdm?
[05:15] <arko> found
[05:16] <cody-somerville> arko, :)
[05:16] <arko> hmmm
[05:16] <arko> where are drums?
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> arko: look in /usr/share/sounds
[05:17] <arko> it is not there
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> arko: no startup or login wav?
[05:18] <arko> nope
[05:18] <Odd-rationale> did you install ubuntu-sounds?
[05:18] <arko> only alsa sounds (speaker-test) and a directory called purple.
[05:19] <arko> not yet.
[05:19] <arko> installing now
[05:19] <Odd-rationale> ok. the "african drum" login sounds are in that package...
[05:19] <arko> thanx
[05:21] <arko> done... it is called "question".
[05:23] <arko> nite
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> bye1
[07:53] <lemon> hello. I cannot watch DVDs. What am I suppose to install in order to do that?
[08:03] <mcisbackuk> Hi all, I'm having a MAJOR problem installing Xubuntu on a 233MHz 64 MB RAM and 10GB HD old PC. I've got so far after 5 hours, but for the past 2-3 hours its been 'configuring language-pack-en-base' it's hung, although the hard drive is going.....any ideas??
[08:12] <Wizard> good morning
[08:12] <Wizard> i have small question
[08:13] <Wizard> is there a way to install ubuntu as 'cli only' system?
[08:13] <Wizard> which mean as minimal as possible?
[08:21] <Wizard> j #ubuntu
[08:58] <pafnucy> hello, system upgrade broke on me
[08:59] <pafnucy> basically, when I log in with gdm it stops at blank screen (xfce's desktop background colour) and a mouse pointer
[09:00] <pafnucy> now I am logged on a vt and started the session with startxfce4
[09:02] <Wizard> pafnucy: patrzyłeś w log gdma?
[09:04] <pafnucy> Wizard, http://pastebin.ca/1006781
[09:04] <Wizard> nic tam nie ma :|
[09:05] <Wizard> spróbuj zrobić tak
[09:05] <Wizard> stwórz plik ~/.xsession
[09:05] <Wizard> w środku coś takiego:
[09:05] <Wizard> #!/bin/sh
[09:05] <Wizard> exec startxfce4
[09:05] <Wizard> potem zmień sesję w gdmie
[09:05] <Wizard> btw, próbowałeś startować sesję failsafe albo coś podobnego?
[09:06] <pafnucy> nie, zaraz sprobuje
[09:06] <pafnucy> zauwazylem tez, ze po wystartowaniu przez startxfce4 policykit jest dla mnie zupelnie niedostepne
[09:06] <pafnucy> zastanawiam sie czy to efekt czy moze przyczyna
[09:06] <pafnucy> brb
[09:13] <pafnucy> Wizard, dzieki, dziala :) musialem wybrac Xclient jako domyslny skrypt startowy
[09:14] <Wizard> to jeszcze się dowiedz co się zjebało, że tamto nie działa
[09:14] <Wizard> po mojemu dziwne, że tylko jedna sesja nie startuje
[09:14] <pafnucy> to naprawilo tez polkit - przypuszczam ze w Hardym to jakis wrapper script do odpalania srodowiska z uwzglednieniem polkita
[09:15] <Wizard> ja tam nie wiem
[09:15] <pafnucy> na razie nie mam czasu zeby w tym mieszac, jeszcze raz dzieki za naprowadzenie na wlasciwa droge i znikam
[09:15] <Wizard> wczoraj wywalilem xubuntu
[09:15] <Wizard> nie ma sprawy
[09:30] <holyguyver_> could someone please help me, my sound works fine, but my micraphone doesn't work
[10:16] <Abominus69> Hello, I upgraded to 8.04 and now I cannot see my second hard drive.  It was working before.  Any suggestions please?
[10:18] <ere4si> does it show when you type   fdisk -l   in a terminal?
[10:19] <Abominus69> Yes it does.
[10:20] <ere4si> in the file /etc/fstab is it listed?
[10:21] <Abominus69> No it is not.
[10:22] <ere4si> so it is not set up to be mounted at boot - you can manually mount it
[10:24] <Abominus69> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA
[10:24] <Abominus69> Would that do it?
[10:25] <Abominus69> Oh, wait, I need to add some file system stuff in there...
[10:26] <mcisbackuk> Hi all, I'm having a MAJOR problem installing Xubuntu on a 233MHz 64 MB RAM and 10GB HD old PC. I've got so far after 5 hours, but for the past 2-3 hours its been 'configuring language-pack-en-base' it's hung, although the hard drive is going.....any ideas??
[10:27] <ere4si> it would have to be sudo mount -t ext3-or-ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA
[10:29] <Abominus69> mark@Xubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA
[10:29] <Abominus69> mount: mount point /media/DATA does not exist
[10:29] <ere4si> mcisbackuk: leave for ages - that really isn't enough memory - it will take forever but will happen
[10:29] <ere4si> Abominus69: sudo mkdir /media/DATA
[10:29] <ere4si> then mount
[10:32] <mcisbackuk> oh god i restarted it.....would i have any better luck with 6.10 maybe and then dist-upgrade to 8.04??
[10:33] <Abominus69> Getting there!  I've made a folder on my desktop.  How do I link it to /media/DATA ?
[10:33] <Abominus69> (If I go straight to /media/DATA I can access the drive)
[10:35] <ere4si> Abominus69: sudo ln -s /media/DATA ~/Desktop/foldername
[10:35] <Abominus69> Or can I just mount it straight to the folder on my desktop instead?
[10:36] <ere4si> mcisbackuk: with 64mb memory I would recommend damn small linux or puppy - hardy uses that amount of memory just to paint the desktop
[10:36] <mcisbackuk> oh dear...... lol
[10:36] <ere4si> Abominus69: you can mount it where you like :)
[10:37] <mcisbackuk> do both/either of them have web browser, or option to install, and do they have GUI, like gnom, kde etc?
[10:38] <ere4si> mcisbackuk: they have everything - just are set up for low end comps
[10:38] <ere4si> mcisbackuk: you can ask in #puppylinux
[10:39] <mcisbackuk> ere4si: Brilliant, cheers :)
[10:39] <ere4si> mcisbackuk: and #dsl
[10:41] <Abominus69> How do I give permissions for user 'mark' to access the folder, so that I don't always have to enter the su password every time I want to do something with the drive?
[10:43] <Abominus69> chown mark /home/mark/Desktop/DATA    ?
[10:43] <ere4si> I would try  sudo chown -Rv mark:mark /media/DATA ( or whereever you mounted it)
[10:50] <Abominus69> Holy outrageousness, I just wrote to the drive.  Thanks very much.  Now the tricky part, fstab to make it do this on boot.  My attempt:
[10:50] <Abominus69> /dev/sdb1 /home/mark/Desktop/DATA ext3 defaults 0 0    ?
[10:51] <ere4si> looks good
[10:55] <Abominus69> Okay, will attempt a reload.  Thanks for your help so far.
[10:56] <ere4si> good luck
[11:00] <Abominus69> ere4si just wanted to come back on to say thank you very much for your help.  Everything is working now, and I'm very happy.  Cheers!
[11:00] <ere4si> well done Abominus69
[11:01] <Abominus69> On the contrary, well done to you.
[11:01] <ere4si> :)
[11:37] <Elrood> hi folks. i'm having some trouble setting the display resolution here after the upgrade to hardy. is there anyone who could help?
[11:46] <PsynoKhi0> hi, I'm trying to recover grub using hardy's alternate cd, according to the instrcutions at the bottom of the page there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:47] <blacklabelsk8>  hello, I'm having trouble getting xorg properly configured on a Voodoo3 2000, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg goes through some reconfiguration but never mentions any resolution or colour depths, and looking at /etc/X11/xorg.conf shows a pretty empty file, nothing really detailed, what am I doing wrong?
[11:48] <Elrood> similar problem here
[11:48] <PsynoKhi0> when I get the option to choose install grub I only get more error messages, and the instructions using the prompt just feel way outdated
[11:49] <blacklabelsk8> oh yah Elrood?
[11:49] <Elrood> yup, black
[11:49] <blacklabelsk8> at least I'm not alone, have you learned anything about it?
[11:50] <blacklabelsk8> are you working with a voodoo as well?
[11:50] <Elrood> not really, that's why i'm here. sorry. nope, no voodoo magick ;) got problems changing the resolution
[11:51] <PsynoKhi0> I edited my xorg.conf manually and entered the corresponding lines myself, but there are probably other ways
[11:52] <blacklabelsk8> hmm
[11:52] <blacklabelsk8> frustration
[11:54] <blacklabelsk8> really I just wanted to see if I could get compiz running under a voodoo3..
[11:55] <Elrood> PsynoKhi0: SubSection "Display" ?
[11:55] <PsynoKhi0> blacklabelsk8: from what I've read you can't
[11:56] <blacklabelsk8> I've read different, wish there was some official source
[11:56] <PsynoKhi0> compositing effects in Xfce work, that I know
[11:57] <PsynoKhi0> Elrood: can't remember, looks like Xubuntu's alternate CD mistook the "Keep" option during HDD partitioning as "mess up every f*cking file on the root partition"
[11:58] <blacklabelsk8> think you could pastebin your xorg.conf PsynoKhi0 ?
[11:58] <blacklabelsk8> I've got to at least get this to 1024x768, this 800x600 is unusable
[11:58] <Elrood> PsynoKhi0: it's a fresh installation here
[11:59] <PsynoKhi0> what I mean is that that retarded installation might have wiped my X11 folder
[11:59] <PsynoKhi0> so no xorg.conf left here
[12:00] <blacklabelsk8> I used this same disc on a system with a geforce2 and had no probs with compiz or xorg for that matter
[12:00]  * blacklabelsk8 boggles
[12:00] <PsynoKhi0> geforce2 qnd voodoo3 aren't the same hardware generation though :)
[12:01] <blacklabelsk8> well yeah hehe
[12:01] <blacklabelsk8> I dunno whats up though, xorg should be able to do more than this.
[12:06] <PsynoKhi0> http://pastebin.com/m6efd4fed highlighted the lines you might be interested in
[12:07] <PsynoKhi0> the HorizSync and VertRefresh should match your screens' specs though
[12:07] <Elrood> thanks, ya, that does look pretty much like the settings i just entered here
[12:08] <PsynoKhi0> I setup my VertRefresh at 75 max as you see, cause I use iceWM as my default
[12:09] <PsynoKhi0> and I dunno how to change refresh rate on the fly in it
[12:10] <Elrood> no refresh rates here, but i manually entered the display subsection.. works :)
[12:10] <Elrood> not exactly optimal or comfortable for a newb, but at least it does the trick
[12:12] <PsynoKhi0> cool
[12:12] <Elrood> :)
[12:12] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[12:13] <Elrood> no idea why this isn't possible via some easier to find autoconfig routine or gui, though
[12:14] <PsynoKhi0> I'm sure you can
[12:15] <PsynoKhi0> X -config I think but I get weird messages when I try, haven't bothered looking into it though
[12:15] <Elrood> at least i couldn't find it, and that usually isn't a good sign :)  um.. btw, why do you use icewm?
[12:18] <Elrood> would you recommend it? anything that might make someone try it as an alternative to xfce? or just personal preference cause you're more used to it or sth?
[12:18] <PsynoKhi0> this comp has loads of probs with hardy
[12:18] <PsynoKhi0> I saw a sizeable decrease in performance in Xfce upgrading from gutsy
[12:20] <Elrood> mhm.. so you'd say it would be worth a try for a really dated machine?
[12:20] <PsynoKhi0> iceWM is minimalistic, if if you like that and you don't mind having to configure your desktop through text files, you ccan give it a try
[12:20] <PsynoKhi0> Elrood: definitely
[12:20] <Elrood> thanks, i'll have a look then
[12:21] <PsynoKhi0> it's in synaptic
[12:22] <PsynoKhi0> you can d/l the iceme package too if you want, it's a small utility to edit menus and stuff in iceWM
[12:23] <Elrood> merci, i'm at it
[12:23] <PsynoKhi0> "merci"?
[12:24] <Elrood> thank you, french
[12:24] <PsynoKhi0> oh
[12:29] <PsynoKhi0> any luck blacklabelsk8?
[12:31] <blacklabelsk8> not really, I got to a slightly different configuration window from within xfce after rebooting after putting in changes to xorg.conf manually,  still looked like it was running at 800x600, though the font was different
[12:32] <PsynoKhi0> can you choose any other resolution in the display settings?
[12:32] <blacklabelsk8> I think you're right though, hardy is maybe not so great for older hw
[12:33] <blacklabelsk8> just down from 800x600
[12:33] <Elrood> you edited your xorg.conf to include a 1024x768 setting?
[12:33] <blacklabelsk8> yeah
[12:34] <Elrood> and your display settings gui shows 640x480 800x600 and a default?
[12:34] <blacklabelsk8> correct
[12:34] <Elrood> which one's selected, default?
[12:35] <blacklabelsk8> yeah
[12:35] <Elrood> what do you get if you call 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' in a terminal?
[12:36] <Elrood> does it list a 1024x768 resolution?
[12:36] <blacklabelsk8> this is the screen I got after I manually changed xorg.conf and rebooted, it said some old blah blah about how it couldnt start x properly
[12:37] <blacklabelsk8> no 800x600 and lower
[12:37] <Elrood> hm, that's strange.. you didn't forget to log out and in again after editing your xorg.conf, did you?
[12:38] <Elrood> if you did, that might be something to try
[12:38] <blacklabelsk8> I restarted x with ctrl+alt+bksp?
[12:38] <blacklabelsk8> I dunno if thats the same thing?
[12:38] <Elrood> not entirely sure myself. if in doubt, just log out and in to make sure
[12:39] <Elrood> if that resolution still isn't listed then i'm out of clues
[12:45] <Elrood> blacklabelsk8: any success?
[12:46] <floating> is there any app isntalled by default on xubuntu for .ppt files ?
[12:46] <blacklabelsk8> bleh none, its like its not even looking at xorg.conf
[12:46] <Elrood> that would be a powerpoint presentation, if i'm not mistaken. openoffice should be able to handle those. not sure if it's installed by default, though
[12:47] <floating> not installed i think
[12:47] <Elrood> blacklabelsk8: could you post your xorg.conf, just for comparison?
[12:47] <floating> blah do i really have to install open office ? :/
[12:47] <blacklabelsk8> sure
[12:48] <Elrood> floating: if you want to do some serious work with your machine you won't regret it ;)  don't know if any other app is able to handle those files
[12:49] <blacklabelsk8> http://pastebin.ca/1006874
[12:50] <Elrood> floating: have a look at http://icosahedron.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/viewing-powerpoint-on-linux/
[12:50] <blacklabelsk8> its all those "configured blah blah device" entries that freak me out
[12:50] <blacklabelsk8> I've never seen that in an xorg.conf
[12:53] <Elrood> blacklabelsk8: this is mine http://pastebin.ca/1006875
[12:54] <Elrood> afaik the monitor id and the monitor listed in your screen section should be the same. don't know if that'd make a difference here, with no special settings
[12:56] <blacklabelsk8> they look pretty much the same
[12:56] <Elrood> apart from that, you might want to try to set a device via 'sudo displayconfig-gtk'
[12:57] <blacklabelsk8> well see there it says "Voodoo3 tdfx" so thats what it should be
[12:59] <Elrood> in the one you pasted it just says Configured Video Device, without any settings. but i'm really just guessing here, i'm not one of the linux gurus
[13:00] <floating> elrood yeu thx this tonicpoint is nice
[13:00] <Elrood> floating: np, google is your friend ;)
[13:01] <blacklabelsk8> hmm, might of gotten the monitor set right via displayconfig-gtk
[13:02] <blacklabelsk8> seems to have gotten stuck while testing the new res
[13:02] <floating> i wonder how i could open a .ppt file directly with that.. hmm hmm, something like java tonicpoint.jar  and i can open that tonicpoint, but how can i open something with java and then with that that opens up, i open something like ppt
[13:03] <floating> wonder if anyone got what i meant :P
[13:03] <Elrood> not really *g
[13:03] <floating> that tonicpoint is simple .jar file and i have to open tonicpoint with java
[13:03] <blacklabelsk8> OOo would open it no prob, otherwise I'd say try the Microsoft Powerpoint viewer through Wine
[13:04] <floating> how can i open ppt with tonicpoint that has to be opened with java
[13:04] <floating> tonicpoint.jar is not executable
[13:04] <floating> it says
[13:04] <Elrood> java -jar tonicpoint.jar ?
[13:05] <blacklabelsk8> haha, okay I changed the monitor from unknown to my model and logged out and logged in with the hopes of 1024x768 only to get a green flashing 'D' in the middle topleft of my screen :P
[13:06] <Elrood> you know you can get to a console via ctrl-alt-f1, do you?
[13:07] <blacklabelsk8> wouldnt let me switch to any virtual terminal
[13:07] <floating> Elrood: what thta do ? i got some errors (unknown source) and stuff
[13:07] <floating> i can open up tonicpoint.jar with java runtime in xfce, but if i want to open ppt directly :(
[13:08] <floating> would be nice trick to learn how
[13:08] <blacklabelsk8> wow :\  looks like the whole install is fried now
[13:08] <Elrood> floating: sorry, can't really help there
[13:09] <blacklabelsk8> I rebooted and it seems to have gotten stuck trying to start x....no virtual terms, nothing displayed on the screen
[13:09] <floating> okz, ill look around thx for the app^^
[13:09] <Elrood> np, have fun and good luck
[13:12] <Elrood> hm.. you should always be a ble to get to a term, no matter how badly the settings for x got damaged. sorry, no clue, black
[13:12] <blacklabelsk8> hehe yeah, its got me, never seen a distro act like this, no matter what its been installed on
[13:13] <TheSheep> blacklabelsk8: what graphics ard? intel? nvidia?
[13:13] <blacklabelsk8> 3dfx, voodoo3
[13:14] <TheSheep> omg, that's old
[13:14] <blacklabelsk8> haha I suppose so
[13:14] <TheSheep> blacklabelsk8: wasn't it, like, an addition to a graphics card?
[13:15]  * TheSheep has voodoo2 lying around somewhere
[13:15]  * Elrood feels like black magic is creeping into the channel
[13:15] <blacklabelsk8> I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean, its a completely contained 2d/3d card
[13:18] <TheSheep> blacklabelsk8: it doesn't have a second video socket to connect a real video card?
[13:18] <blacklabelsk8> not that I'm aware of, it cant do SLI like Voodoo2's
[13:20] <TheSheep> I see, sorry, got em confused
[14:40] <coldhak> workspaces are awesome, does vista have em?
[14:41] <TheSheep> no
[14:41] <TheSheep> new osx is supposed to have them
[15:10] <slow-motion> hi
[15:15] <PsynoKhi0> has anyone tried to recover grub using the alternate Hardy cd?
[15:22] <slow-motion> i did not do something like it
[15:22] <slow-motion> where are the settings what atarter are in the bars?
[15:23] <slow-motion> i wanted to install alls new and delete the settings. but somehow they are still there
[15:30] <TheSheep> slow-motion: what's atarter?
[15:30] <slow-motion> starter
[15:30]  * TheSheep blinks
[15:30] <TheSheep> slow-motion: can you rephrase the sentence? I think I'm dumb today
[15:30] <slow-motion> where are the settings what starter are in the bars?
[15:31] <slow-motion> i wanted to install all new and delete the settings. but somehow they are still there
[15:31] <TheSheep> starter in teh bars?
[15:31] <TheSheep> you mean panel plugins?
[15:31] <slow-motion> yes
[15:32] <TheSheep> ~/.config/xfce4/panel/
[15:32] <slow-motion> i deleted the .config folder
[15:32] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: are you sure?
[15:33] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: yes, there is a panels.xml file that lists the plugins and panel settings, and a bunch of .rc files that lists the settings of particular plugins
[15:33] <PsynoKhi0> there might be some stuff trailing in the .cache folder
[15:33] <slow-motion> i see them there. but i'm shure before the installation i deleted the whole .config folder
[15:34] <TheSheep> slow-motion: I think they are created from defaults when the directory doesn't exist
[15:34] <TheSheep> slow-motion: defaults are in /etc/xdg/xfce4
[15:35] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: because just like slow-motion, I got rid of the .config folder before reinstalling xubuntu and the applets were exactly the same when I first logged in after that
[15:35] <slow-motion> or maybe xfce wrote them back while it was still running and so they are had been there while installation
[15:36] <TheSheep> PsynoKhi0: there is nothing about panels in the .cache
[15:36] <TheSheep> slow-motion: yes
[15:37] <slow-motion> ok. then i have to leave xfce and delete them from a terminal the next time i dont want them
[15:37] <TheSheep> or kill the panel first
[15:39] <slow-motion> i will take a look at it another time. but thank you for your help
[15:40] <slow-motion> playing the-mana-world at the moment *g*
[15:42] <TheSheep> slow-motion: seiken densetsu?
[15:42] <slow-motion> what?
[15:43] <TheSheep> slow-motion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiken_Densetsu_3
[15:43] <TheSheep> ah, sorry
[15:44] <slow-motion> http://themanaworld.org/ < TheSheep
[15:45] <TheSheep> slow-motion: ah, it was a little empty last time I checked it...
[15:46] <slow-motion> it is still a little empty, but interesting
[15:47] <TheSheep> I only plaed ragnarok before, so it's pretty bleak in comparison
[15:47] <TuxCrafter> does anybody here have inconsistent fonts rendering in thunderbird compared to the complete rest of the gtk desktop environment?
[15:48] <TuxCrafter> ( i know thunderbird is not a gtk app)
[15:48] <TheSheep> TuxCrafter: oh, hello, you got that display issue solved?
[15:48] <TuxCrafter> i was just wondering if i was the only one
[15:49] <TheSheep> TuxCrafter: if not, try dsabling TVOUT with xrandr
[15:50] <TuxCrafter> xrandr --output TV --off
[15:50] <TuxCrafter> why do you think the issue is with tvout
[15:50] <TuxCrafter> btw it did not help
[15:54] <TuxCrafter> TheSheep: http://imagebin.ca/view/hwwsTfY.html
[15:55] <TuxCrafter> is there a bug report somewhere or do you not know?
[15:59] <suriro> TuxCrafter: is that TB installed from ubuntu repos?
[16:00] <TuxCrafter> suriro: jups
[16:00] <suriro> tried with a different profile?
[16:00] <suriro> thunderbird -ProfileManager
[16:01] <TuxCrafter> suriro: the same
[16:01] <TuxCrafter> i just deleted the old one
[16:01] <TuxCrafter> restarted firefix
[16:01] <TheSheep> TuxCrafter: I don't know
[16:01] <TuxCrafter> same issue
[16:02] <TuxCrafter> it looks so terrible ugly
[16:04] <TuxCrafter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/224810
[16:06] <TuxCrafter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/224810
[16:06] <TuxCrafter> should work
[16:07] <suriro> it just miscalculates DPI, but that's an old bug of TB. I'm surprised it still lingers
[16:07] <suriro> what's the value of layout.css.dpi in config editor in TB?
[16:10] <TuxCrafter> suriro: it was -1
[16:11] <suriro> it has two other possible values, 0 and 1, but I dont remember now the semantics
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> xdpyinfo | grep resolution
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> xdpyinfo | grep dimension
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> resolution:    89x89 dots per inch
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> dimensions:    1440x900 pixels (410x256 millimeters)
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> changed the dpi to 89
[16:12] <TuxCrafter> but its still ugly as hell
[16:12] <suriro> where did you change DPI?
[16:14] <TuxCrafter> suriro: how do you mean
[16:14] <suriro> set layout.css.dpi to 0, restart TB
[16:14] <TuxCrafter> ﻿ok
[16:15] <TuxCrafter> suriro: its the same as with dpi 89
[16:16] <suriro> ok, one more try
[16:16] <suriro> set it to <85, restart TB
[16:16] <suriro> 83 for example
[16:17] <TuxCrafter> suriro: its a bid smaller
[16:17] <TuxCrafter> still ugly but far less than first
[16:17] <TuxCrafter> i can live with it
[16:18] <TuxCrafter> thunderbird is broken by design
[16:18] <TuxCrafter> so no need to fix it
[16:25] <suriro> it could be a shared library problem
[16:25] <suriro> do you have some non-repo installations around?
[16:25] <slow-motion> bye
[16:28] <TuxCrafter> suriro: nope i dont have a non-repo installation around
[16:28] <TuxCrafter> but i will download it know
[16:29] <TuxCrafter> nwo
[16:29] <nikolam> Hi. Does anyone uses raid1?
[16:29] <nikolam> How do I make my raid1 use truely 2 Hdds?
[16:29] <nikolam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9993/
[16:35] <TuxCrafter> bash thunderbird
[16:35] <TuxCrafter> libxpt: bad magic header in input file; found '', expected 'XPCOM\nTypeLib\r\n\032'
[16:35] <TuxCrafter> libxpt: bad magic header in input file; found '', expected 'XPCOM\nTypeLib\r\n\032'
[16:35] <TuxCrafter> libxpt: bad magic header in input file; found '', expected 'XPCOM\nTypeLib\r\n\032'
[16:35] <TuxCrafter> suriro: it is the same
[16:42] <suriro>  /usr/bin/thunderbird is a shell script, and it should fork /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin . Do you see that in ps ax output?
[16:50] <TuxCrafter> suriro: yes it was thunderbird-bin
[16:54] <nikolam> :)
[16:57] <suriro> can you paste the output of ldd /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin
[17:04] <KlrSp1> ﻿Does anyone know how to restore default config files for apache? i did a purge and reinstall, and it's not placing a conf file there and apache won't start because of this
[17:16] <jarnos> Help! I can not unmount my external USB hard disk.
[17:19] <jarnos> This was temporary as it worked now, but before that I tried to umount the disk several times, and got this: "/sbin/umount.hal: disk is not recognized by hal"
[17:20] <KlrSp1> ﻿Does anyone know how to restore default config files for apache? i did a purge and reinstall, and it's not placing a conf file there and apache won't start because of this
[17:30] <OrganStoff> KlrSp1 download the deb file:
[17:30] <OrganStoff> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/apache2.2-common
[17:30] <OrganStoff> (bottom of the page)
[17:30] <OrganStoff> extract .conf file from .deb archive
[17:30] <OrganStoff> you can use the .deb file in /var/cache/apt, too
[17:31] <KlrSp1> OrganStoff: i figured it out
[17:31] <KlrSp1> ﻿the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted.  You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>;
[18:10] <dean_> hi guys
[18:10] <dean_> any NVIDIA guys in?
[18:12] <cheeseboy> anyone here know how to setup network bridge?
[18:54] <slow-motion> re
[19:42] <Myrtti> has anyone tried using screenlets on xubuntu hardy?
[19:42] <BunnyRevolution> not yet
[19:43]  * BunnyRevolution powers up virtual box
[19:43] <Myrtti> I can get the screenlets daemon running, but I can't make it start any screenlets on startup
[19:43] <Myrtti> it makes a silly Autostart directory to the desktop
[19:44] <Myrtti> I'm not that well acquainted with Screenlets so I don't know how to fix it or what it should do
[19:46] <Myrtti> the second thing I've been pondering about is is there any way of changing the colouring of the themes in xfce4?
[19:46] <Myrtti> I've currently got blue scrollbars etc and I'd like to get them in pink or green :->
[19:47] <BunnyRevolution> i do lug presentations for an area lug.  primarily in kubuntu and xubuntu.  i'll need to now this soon for my presentation next thursday
[19:48] <BunnyRevolution> *know
[19:52] <PsynoKhi0> Myrtti: which screenlets?
[19:52] <BunnyRevolution> you need composting options enabled for screenlets to work properly
[19:53] <BunnyRevolution> settings manager, window manager tweaks
[19:54] <slow-motion> bye
[19:54] <Myrtti> yeah, I've got that on
[19:55] <Myrtti> PsynoKhi0: the clock basically
[19:56] <PsynoKhi0> from the gDesklets package?
[19:56] <Myrtti> no, from the screenlets package
[19:57] <PsynoKhi0> ah
[19:57] <BunnyRevolution> user interface pref - use saltlake or stellar
[20:04] <Myrtti> mmmm Murrina Rose looks nice
[20:07] <BunnyRevolution> it would appear that you would need to dig deeper into gtk theming to set the scrollbar specifically.  there are several tutorials on the web on xfce themeing.  this is deeper than any presentation we do in our area wide lug, therefore, this is where my research ends
[20:18] <TheSheep> actually, if you use a murrina theme, then the scrollbars have a separate option in it
[20:19] <BunnyRevolution> thx TheSheep
[20:19] <Myrtti> well the scrollbar was only an example
[20:19] <Myrtti> the general colouring was blueis
[20:19] <Myrtti> h
[20:23] <coldhak> do linux screensavers have options like windows ones do?
[20:23] <HACKhalo2> yessir
[20:23] <HACKhalo2> most of them need OpenGL though
[20:23] <TheSheep> no, they usually have different options :)
[20:23] <coldhak> know how i can get at these options?
[20:23] <HACKhalo2> well, besides the whole Terminal thing
[20:23] <TheSheep> coldhak: settings->settings manager->screensaver
[20:24] <coldhak> TheSheep, i'm there. see no options. i'm guessing they're in a text config somewhere?
[20:24] <TheSheep> hmm? they should be here, wait a minute
[20:26] <coldhak> "screensaver settings" allows selection, but no parameter settingo
[20:26] <Myrtti> settings - screensaver
[20:26] <Myrtti> settings - settings manager - screensaver sets gnome-screensaver
[20:27] <Myrtti> I noticed xubuntu however seems to use xscreensaver by default?
[20:27] <coldhak> i don't have gnome. I have Xfce
[20:27] <Myrtti> coldhak: neither do I have gnome
[20:27] <Myrtti> some software in xfce is from the gnome project and named as such
[20:27] <coldhak> ok :)
[20:28] <HACKhalo2> word of advice, XFCE doesn't run xscreensaver by default
[20:28] <Myrtti> just type gnome and hit tabulator and be suprised
[20:28] <HACKhalo2> ok, what files do i need to run VNC?
[20:29] <coldhak> HACKhalo2, server or client?
[20:29] <HACKhalo2> both
[20:30] <HACKhalo2> mind you im running a VM
[20:30] <Myrtti> x11vnc for server
[20:31] <TheSheep> coldhak: sorry, I forgot xubuntu switched to gnome screensaver
[20:31] <TheSheep> coldhak: this screensaver doesn't have options
[20:31] <coldhak> :( fail
[20:31] <HACKhalo2> xscreensaver does
[20:32] <HACKhalo2> xscreensaver ftw
[20:32] <Myrtti> I once hacked it to be launched based on if my mobile was within a bluetoothable distance from my computer
[20:33] <HACKhalo2> nice
[20:33] <Myrtti> s/launched/launched and locked/
[20:33] <TheSheep> Myrtti: there is a ready gnome app for this now
[20:33] <TheSheep> well, not really gnome
[20:33] <Myrtti> there's a page describing the procedure someplace
[20:33] <HACKhalo2> what VNC do i need for client? x2VNC?
[20:33] <Myrtti> TheSheep: probably the same one I used
[20:33] <TheSheep> blueproximity or something
[20:33] <Myrtti> HACKhalo2: vnc-viewer?
[20:34] <HACKhalo2> that was a stupid question...
[20:34] <TheSheep> Myrtti: no, no, all graphical and stuff
[20:34] <TheSheep> there are no stupid questions
[20:34] <Myrtti> HACKhalo2: mind you, there seems to be vnc-server package too
[20:34] <HACKhalo2> i see that
[20:34] <Myrtti> HACKhalo2: I don't know how that differs from x11vnc
[20:35] <HACKhalo2> Link between MS-Winderz and X display
[20:35] <Myrtti> I used x11vnc ages ago and found it quite simple to set up, I don't know if there are better solutions around
[20:35] <HACKhalo2> i need to set up chatzilla in my VM
[20:46] <HACKhalo2> Myrtti, is x11vnc a terminal program?
[20:47] <Myrtti> I guess
[21:29] <TuxCrafter> hi guys how do i solve this message
[21:29] <TuxCrafter> A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal").
[21:29] <TuxCrafter> i cant mount my usb storage device
[21:30] <TuxCrafter> sudo mount works fine btw
[21:36] <floating> where can i edit the stuff that is in /etc/inittab in suse ?
[21:36] <floating> how the system boots... default run level
[21:40] <TuxCrafter> nobody that has a direct solution?
[21:42] <TuxCrafter> got to leave now
[22:36] <raps_> hello all}
[22:36] <raps_> I need sdome help with my video card
[22:36] <raps_> I have just installed xubuntu 8.04
[22:37] <raps_> I seem to have a problem with my video card, I get no full screen resolution
[22:37] <raps_> it keeps using 800x600, My card is a trident
[22:37] <raps_> and I have read a bug in launchpad https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-trident/+bug/200411
[22:38] <raps_> I was wondering if anyone could help me find a way for me to enable the trident driver, as of now I only use the VESA driver
[22:39] <MythGuy> Can someone help me? I'm having trouble enabling my NVIDIA drivers.
[22:42] <MythGuy> hello?
[22:42] <TheSheep> raps_: try setting the horizontal and vertical refresh rates of your monitor properly
[22:43] <raps_> TheSheep,  mmm how could I do that... before I used to do that directly in xorg.conf, but now that is not longer used in ubuntu 8.04
[22:44] <raps_> not used for changin video settings
[22:46] <TheSheep> raps_: what do you mean it's not used?
[22:46] <TheSheep> Myrtti: you need to describe your problem
[22:46] <Myrtti> /me hides
[22:47] <raps_> not used for changin video settings "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[22:47] <raps_> and I could pick the driver. this is not longer tru in ubuntu 8.04
[22:48] <raps_> I also edited the xrog.conf   but the sections   monitor and screen cannot be modified like before... where I would add modes or horizontal an vertical parameters for the monitor
[22:49] <raps_> TheSheep,  you suggested I change the horz and vert parameters, where would I do that?
[22:49] <TheSheep> raps_: you can modify them exactly the same way as befgore
[22:49] <TheSheep> raps_: the syntax of that file didn't change
[22:50] <TheSheep> MythGuy: you need to describe your problem
[22:50] <safrikan> hello
[22:50] <TheSheep> Myrtti: :)
[22:50] <TheSheep> raps_: you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p0 xserver-xorg' to do it using menus
[22:50] <safrikan> I have a question, can I ask?
[22:51] <MythGuy> I keep checking the enable box on the restricted hardware drivers section, then I restart and check it again and it's still disabled.
[22:51] <TheSheep> MythGuy: do you have the restricted repositories enabled in software sources?
[22:52] <MythGuy> I don't know. How would I check?
[22:53] <raps_> TheSheep,  the command I just rand led me to the xorg configuration I use frequently but it does not refer to anything related to video
[22:56] <safrikan> I need advice on a minimal, super-sleek xubuntu install on a sumicom
[22:58] <MythGuy> TheSheep: I found software sources and yes, I do have access to restricted drivers.
[22:58] <MythGuy> or repositories...
[22:59] <MythGuy> maybe my internet connection was bugy.
[22:59] <raps_> TheSheep,  no change at all in x's. how can I change my monitor settings graphically in xuibuntu
[23:00] <TheSheep> raps_: try running 'displayconfig-gtk'
[23:00] <TheSheep> MythGuy: you can try installing the nvidia-glx package manually
[23:05] <MythGuy> TheSheep: what was that you said? I was restarting just as I saw it.
[23:05] <TheSheep>  MythGuy: you can try installing the nvidia-glx package
[23:05] <TheSheep>                   manually
[23:06] <TheSheep> MythGuy: normally the restricted drivers manager would install it
[23:06] <raps_> TheSheep,  fixed
[23:06] <MythGuy> ah. I'll try that/
[23:06] <TheSheep> raps_: great
[23:06] <raps_> thanks
[23:06]  * raps_ didn't know he could use the nift gnome config app for xubuntu
[23:07] <TheSheep> raps_: it doesn't display in the menu due to a bug
[23:07] <raps_> right
[23:26] <floating> my xubuntu is never really using my swap. always like 80mb/620mb in use
[23:27] <floating> guess 620mb is too much.. i have 752mb ram
[23:27] <zoredache> why do you want it to use swap?  If you have ram available it should use that
[23:28] <floating> just thinking if i were in situation to install xubu again in similar system, i could choose like 256mb ram easily
[23:30] <zoredache> disk space is pretty cheap... It seems like it is easy to have swap available in the rare case you need it
[23:32] <floating> :) i have a couple years old weak laptop with 256mb and 512mb memory pieces in, 60gb hd so almost 500mb could make difference in capacity... well, actually its not really but
[23:32] <floating> using an external hd is not smth i would consider
[23:42] <MiKa|> my question: what is the rofs folder used for? if i were to backup the system, is it necessary to backup this folder too? because the file size of the folder itself is rather big..
[23:53] <TheSheep> Myrtti: 'rofs'?
[23:54] <TheSheep> Myrtti: sorry
[23:54] <TheSheep> MiKa|: 'rofs'?
[23:54] <MiKa|> yes
[23:54] <MiKa|> in my case, im running xubuntu off a livecd
[23:54] <MiKa|> and i get this folder in my file system
[23:55] <MiKa|> it seems to have a complete copy of the whole file system, and a google search told me that it is a 'read only file system' (rofs)
[23:55] <TheSheep> ah
[23:56] <TheSheep> it's the livecd itself
[23:56] <TheSheep> why would you back up a livecd?
[23:56] <MiKa|> well
[23:57] <MiKa|> once u work around a while with the live cd (make changes, install programs...) eventually i have to turn off the computer, but i want to make a backup of the changes so that i can restore it when i install it fully next time
[23:59] <MiKa|> i have never installed the whole xubuntu itself yet, so i was wondering: does this folder exist in your file system which u have installed xubuntu fully?
[23:59] <TheSheep> MiKa|: hmm.. you only need to backup your /home and the list of installed packages -- you can get it with dpkg -l
[23:59] <MiKa|> but, i have other changes...