[00:03] I lost the sound few minutes ago, I dont understand why ( I use generic kernel ) Can you help me ? [00:06] platyhelminth: run the alsa-info.sh script from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems [00:06] platyhelminth: then, tell me the url [00:09] crimsun where is alsa-info.sh ? [00:10] platyhelminth: see the URL I just gave you [00:11] this doesn't work [00:12] I didn't see bash: alsa-info.sh was downloadable [00:17] http://pastebin.com/m2e0e6325 [00:17] crimsun [00:18] platyhelminth: sec. [00:23] platyhelminth: well, the levels are either zeroed and/or muted. [00:24] where to remove mute [00:24] platyhelminth: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset [00:24] thank [00:25] * Resetting ALSA... [ OK ] [00:25] sound works [00:26] thank again [00:26] np [00:27] But now how canHow does levels can be zeroed or muted olone ? [00:28] How does levels can be zeroed or muted alone ? [00:29] platyhelminth: by using amixer with the appropriate element string. [00:31] amixer ? [00:31] e.g., amixer set 'Master' unmute [00:32] you can also use alsamixer, kmix, aumix, etc. [02:06] I just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, and now i can not see my other hard drive... can someone help ? [02:09] is it listed in /etc/fstab [02:09] ? [02:10] I dont have that folder [02:11] that is a file [02:12] where should i paste the contents of that file ?? [02:12] !paste [02:12] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [02:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9898/ [02:17] hi [02:18] how can I stop nm-applet asking for password? [02:21] arko, add nm-applet or NetworkManager to the sudoers file.. [02:21] hmmm [02:21] how can i do that? [02:22] KindOne https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [02:22] arko https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers [02:23] sudo apt-get install nm-applet [02:23] arko type that inthe terminal ^^^ [02:24] i dont think so :p [02:25] -.- rofl didnt work [02:31] arko, What password? [02:31] When does it ask you for a password and for what? [02:37] arko, When you get back from being away, just say my full nickname to get my attention again. [02:39] hey, can someone really quickly tell me the best way to use dd to backup /usr ? I need syntax using bzip, and noerror I think... HELP? [02:41] q_a_z_steve, Hello. [02:41] Is there any particular reason you need to use dd to do that backup? [02:44] dd is nicknamed Data Destroyer :) [02:44] bit for bit backup... [02:45] But why not use tar? [02:46] I suppose I can, but I need it to end up in bz2 [02:46] dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip..... [02:47] do you need bit for bit backup because of file corruption or what? [02:47] let's say yes. [02:48] q_a_z_steve, the safer command would be: tar -zcf usr_backup.tar.gz /usr [02:48] q_a_z_steve, ... [02:48] Stroganoff: would you mind expanding that to the end [02:48] q_a_z_steve, Why don't *you* tell us what you're trying to accomplish exactly? [02:49] add j to the tar attributes to use bzip [02:51] bit for bit backup of /usr and /home, which partitions have been zeroed out by dd if=/dev/zero of=/blah ...and... of=/home/blah [02:51] Stroganoff, oops. :) [02:52] dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c > file.bz2 [02:52] wheres hda1 is..... [02:52] whatever [02:52] btw i'm not 100% sure if this works :D [02:53] you can use partimage instead, FY [02:53] I [02:54] Stroganoff: not on /usr, partimage would backup the entire / partition [02:54] dd backups the entire partition, too [02:54] not if=/usr that will only do that directory, and it's children [02:55] k i wasnt sure if it also works like that [02:55] whether. [02:55] will gzip do bzip2 then, are you sure about that? [02:55] oops no [02:56] use bzip2 -c > file.bz2 [02:56] I can pipe to | tar -jzcf file.bz2 can't I? with '-' ? [02:58] or better not? [02:58] no tar does not read from standard input [02:59] its no use anyway to tar ONE huge byte stream [03:16] next question: If I have used partimage split to backup another area, how do I check those files? [03:21] bz2.000 and so on... [03:22] Stroganoff: ?? [03:23] unzip them? [03:24] with what gui app? well I first want to see the contents gui if at all possible [03:27] Stroganoff: [03:29] dont know [03:29] go to #linux [03:29] cody-somerville: can you help with that? [03:29] q_a_z_steve, What format is the file? [03:31] cody-somerville: I have used partimage to bzip the partition [03:33] q_a_z_steve, There is a GUI tool [03:34] Just open it - should work. [03:34] What will probably happen is that it'll show just one file (the uncompressed ISO) and you can just open that file with the same program. [03:36] ark doesn't like even like these, I've tried archive-manager and 7zip... [03:37] this is when I pull up a piece. [03:37] I assume your plan would work, if it would evaluate the whole file... 000 thru 006 [03:38] I'll be back later, but keep the suggestions coming [03:39] q_a_z_steve, file roller says it supports ISOs [03:56] cody-somerville an ISO is something else [03:57] Stroganoff, I thought partimage generates ISO files [03:57] ISO is a file system [03:58] its used for cd images [03:58] partimage creates images of your filesystem (i.e. ext3) [04:46] cody-somerville: Stroganoff partimage would create ISO if I didn't have it BZIP [04:47] q_a_z_steve, right... so decompress it and you'll have the ISO, right? [04:48] atleast a 10G iso, possibly, how do I decompress, without pumping partimage back onto a drive? [04:48] seriously, I can't even start... [04:49] back [04:50] how can I activate system sounds in Xubuntu? [04:50] arko, There are none. [04:50] oh [04:50] that is sada [04:50] sad [04:50] q_a_z_steve, What do you mean by "pumping partimage" back onto a drive? [04:50] arko, Just make noises with your mouth when you click things ;p [04:51] cody-somerville: nice idea [04:51] thanx [04:52] cody-somerville: nothing will open these files, so far that I've tried... [04:52] as though I have to trust the partimage... [04:53] * cody-somerville grins at arko :) [04:54] q_a_z_steve, What is the file name? [04:54] wheels.bz2.000 , wheels.bz2.001 --- 006 "Wheels" is my computer name [04:55] Ah! [04:56] split bz2 file [04:58] q_a_z_steve, Did you use the fixed size option? [04:58] yeah 2037MB === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [05:04] cody-somerville: ... [05:06] q_a_z_steve, I'm researching :P [05:07] cody-somerville: my wife is asking which kind of wierd sounds I am shouting here. [05:07] arko, Ah. That must be a bug. :P [05:07] hahahaha [05:08] :) [05:10] couldn't you just install ubuntu-sounds ? [05:10] q_a_z_steve, the only solution I see is to md5sum check the before and after. [05:10] Odd-rationale, Those are for the gnome desktop. [05:11] http://www.xfce-look.org >> System Sounds [05:11] cody-somerville: well, you could still use the .wav files. like in gdm. I like the drums... :) [05:11] Yes. [05:12] The only system sounds you'll get are the ones from gdm when logging in and what not. [05:14] how can I set these drums in gdm? [05:15] found [05:16] arko, :) [05:16] hmmm [05:16] where are drums? [05:17] arko: look in /usr/share/sounds [05:17] it is not there [05:18] arko: no startup or login wav? [05:18] nope [05:18] did you install ubuntu-sounds? [05:18] only alsa sounds (speaker-test) and a directory called purple. [05:19] not yet. [05:19] installing now [05:19] ok. the "african drum" login sounds are in that package... [05:19] thanx [05:21] done... it is called "question". [05:23] nite [05:23] bye1 === daurnimas is now known as daurnimator [07:53] hello. I cannot watch DVDs. What am I suppose to install in order to do that? [08:03] Hi all, I'm having a MAJOR problem installing Xubuntu on a 233MHz 64 MB RAM and 10GB HD old PC. I've got so far after 5 hours, but for the past 2-3 hours its been 'configuring language-pack-en-base' it's hung, although the hard drive is going.....any ideas?? [08:12] good morning [08:12] i have small question [08:13] is there a way to install ubuntu as 'cli only' system? [08:13] which mean as minimal as possible? [08:21] j #ubuntu === Mattz is now known as matBoy [08:58] hello, system upgrade broke on me [08:59] basically, when I log in with gdm it stops at blank screen (xfce's desktop background colour) and a mouse pointer [09:00] now I am logged on a vt and started the session with startxfce4 [09:02] pafnucy: patrzyłeś w log gdma? [09:04] Wizard, http://pastebin.ca/1006781 [09:04] nic tam nie ma :| [09:05] spróbuj zrobić tak [09:05] stwórz plik ~/.xsession [09:05] w środku coś takiego: [09:05] #!/bin/sh [09:05] exec startxfce4 [09:05] potem zmień sesję w gdmie [09:05] btw, próbowałeś startować sesję failsafe albo coś podobnego? [09:06] nie, zaraz sprobuje [09:06] zauwazylem tez, ze po wystartowaniu przez startxfce4 policykit jest dla mnie zupelnie niedostepne [09:06] zastanawiam sie czy to efekt czy moze przyczyna [09:06] brb [09:13] Wizard, dzieki, dziala :) musialem wybrac Xclient jako domyslny skrypt startowy [09:14] to jeszcze się dowiedz co się zjebało, że tamto nie działa [09:14] po mojemu dziwne, że tylko jedna sesja nie startuje [09:14] to naprawilo tez polkit - przypuszczam ze w Hardym to jakis wrapper script do odpalania srodowiska z uwzglednieniem polkita [09:15] ja tam nie wiem [09:15] na razie nie mam czasu zeby w tym mieszac, jeszcze raz dzieki za naprowadzenie na wlasciwa droge i znikam [09:15] wczoraj wywalilem xubuntu [09:15] nie ma sprawy [09:30] could someone please help me, my sound works fine, but my micraphone doesn't work [10:16] Hello, I upgraded to 8.04 and now I cannot see my second hard drive. It was working before. Any suggestions please? [10:18] does it show when you type fdisk -l in a terminal? [10:19] Yes it does. [10:20] in the file /etc/fstab is it listed? [10:21] No it is not. [10:22] so it is not set up to be mounted at boot - you can manually mount it [10:24] mount /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA [10:24] Would that do it? [10:25] Oh, wait, I need to add some file system stuff in there... [10:26] Hi all, I'm having a MAJOR problem installing Xubuntu on a 233MHz 64 MB RAM and 10GB HD old PC. I've got so far after 5 hours, but for the past 2-3 hours its been 'configuring language-pack-en-base' it's hung, although the hard drive is going.....any ideas?? [10:27] it would have to be sudo mount -t ext3-or-ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA [10:29] mark@Xubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/DATA [10:29] mount: mount point /media/DATA does not exist [10:29] mcisbackuk: leave for ages - that really isn't enough memory - it will take forever but will happen [10:29] Abominus69: sudo mkdir /media/DATA [10:29] then mount [10:32] oh god i restarted it.....would i have any better luck with 6.10 maybe and then dist-upgrade to 8.04?? [10:33] Getting there! I've made a folder on my desktop. How do I link it to /media/DATA ? [10:33] (If I go straight to /media/DATA I can access the drive) [10:35] Abominus69: sudo ln -s /media/DATA ~/Desktop/foldername [10:35] Or can I just mount it straight to the folder on my desktop instead? [10:36] mcisbackuk: with 64mb memory I would recommend damn small linux or puppy - hardy uses that amount of memory just to paint the desktop [10:36] oh dear...... lol [10:36] Abominus69: you can mount it where you like :) [10:37] do both/either of them have web browser, or option to install, and do they have GUI, like gnom, kde etc? [10:38] mcisbackuk: they have everything - just are set up for low end comps [10:38] mcisbackuk: you can ask in #puppylinux [10:39] ere4si: Brilliant, cheers :) [10:39] mcisbackuk: and #dsl [10:41] How do I give permissions for user 'mark' to access the folder, so that I don't always have to enter the su password every time I want to do something with the drive? [10:43] chown mark /home/mark/Desktop/DATA ? [10:43] I would try sudo chown -Rv mark:mark /media/DATA ( or whereever you mounted it) [10:50] Holy outrageousness, I just wrote to the drive. Thanks very much. Now the tricky part, fstab to make it do this on boot. My attempt: [10:50] /dev/sdb1 /home/mark/Desktop/DATA ext3 defaults 0 0 ? [10:51] looks good [10:55] Okay, will attempt a reload. Thanks for your help so far. [10:56] good luck [11:00] ere4si just wanted to come back on to say thank you very much for your help. Everything is working now, and I'm very happy. Cheers! [11:00] well done Abominus69 [11:01] On the contrary, well done to you. [11:01] :) [11:37] hi folks. i'm having some trouble setting the display resolution here after the upgrade to hardy. is there anyone who could help? [11:46] hi, I'm trying to recover grub using hardy's alternate cd, according to the instrcutions at the bottom of the page there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [11:47] hello, I'm having trouble getting xorg properly configured on a Voodoo3 2000, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg goes through some reconfiguration but never mentions any resolution or colour depths, and looking at /etc/X11/xorg.conf shows a pretty empty file, nothing really detailed, what am I doing wrong? [11:48] similar problem here [11:48] when I get the option to choose install grub I only get more error messages, and the instructions using the prompt just feel way outdated [11:49] oh yah Elrood? [11:49] yup, black [11:49] at least I'm not alone, have you learned anything about it? [11:50] are you working with a voodoo as well? [11:50] not really, that's why i'm here. sorry. nope, no voodoo magick ;) got problems changing the resolution [11:51] I edited my xorg.conf manually and entered the corresponding lines myself, but there are probably other ways [11:52] hmm [11:52] frustration [11:54] really I just wanted to see if I could get compiz running under a voodoo3.. [11:55] PsynoKhi0: SubSection "Display" ? [11:55] blacklabelsk8: from what I've read you can't [11:56] I've read different, wish there was some official source [11:56] compositing effects in Xfce work, that I know [11:57] Elrood: can't remember, looks like Xubuntu's alternate CD mistook the "Keep" option during HDD partitioning as "mess up every f*cking file on the root partition" [11:58] think you could pastebin your xorg.conf PsynoKhi0 ? [11:58] I've got to at least get this to 1024x768, this 800x600 is unusable [11:58] PsynoKhi0: it's a fresh installation here [11:59] what I mean is that that retarded installation might have wiped my X11 folder [11:59] so no xorg.conf left here [12:00] I used this same disc on a system with a geforce2 and had no probs with compiz or xorg for that matter [12:00] * blacklabelsk8 boggles [12:00] geforce2 qnd voodoo3 aren't the same hardware generation though :) [12:01] well yeah hehe [12:01] I dunno whats up though, xorg should be able to do more than this. [12:06] http://pastebin.com/m6efd4fed highlighted the lines you might be interested in [12:07] the HorizSync and VertRefresh should match your screens' specs though [12:07] thanks, ya, that does look pretty much like the settings i just entered here [12:08] I setup my VertRefresh at 75 max as you see, cause I use iceWM as my default [12:09] and I dunno how to change refresh rate on the fly in it [12:10] no refresh rates here, but i manually entered the display subsection.. works :) [12:10] not exactly optimal or comfortable for a newb, but at least it does the trick [12:12] cool [12:12] :) [12:12] :) [12:13] no idea why this isn't possible via some easier to find autoconfig routine or gui, though [12:14] I'm sure you can [12:15] X -config I think but I get weird messages when I try, haven't bothered looking into it though [12:15] at least i couldn't find it, and that usually isn't a good sign :) um.. btw, why do you use icewm? [12:18] would you recommend it? anything that might make someone try it as an alternative to xfce? or just personal preference cause you're more used to it or sth? [12:18] this comp has loads of probs with hardy [12:18] I saw a sizeable decrease in performance in Xfce upgrading from gutsy [12:20] mhm.. so you'd say it would be worth a try for a really dated machine? [12:20] iceWM is minimalistic, if if you like that and you don't mind having to configure your desktop through text files, you ccan give it a try [12:20] Elrood: definitely [12:20] thanks, i'll have a look then [12:21] it's in synaptic [12:22] you can d/l the iceme package too if you want, it's a small utility to edit menus and stuff in iceWM [12:23] merci, i'm at it [12:23] "merci"? [12:24] thank you, french [12:24] oh [12:29] any luck blacklabelsk8? [12:31] not really, I got to a slightly different configuration window from within xfce after rebooting after putting in changes to xorg.conf manually, still looked like it was running at 800x600, though the font was different [12:32] can you choose any other resolution in the display settings? [12:32] I think you're right though, hardy is maybe not so great for older hw [12:33] just down from 800x600 [12:33] you edited your xorg.conf to include a 1024x768 setting? [12:33] yeah [12:34] and your display settings gui shows 640x480 800x600 and a default? [12:34] correct [12:34] which one's selected, default? [12:35] yeah [12:35] what do you get if you call 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' in a terminal? [12:36] does it list a 1024x768 resolution? [12:36] this is the screen I got after I manually changed xorg.conf and rebooted, it said some old blah blah about how it couldnt start x properly [12:37] no 800x600 and lower [12:37] hm, that's strange.. you didn't forget to log out and in again after editing your xorg.conf, did you? [12:38] if you did, that might be something to try [12:38] I restarted x with ctrl+alt+bksp? [12:38] I dunno if thats the same thing? [12:38] not entirely sure myself. if in doubt, just log out and in to make sure [12:39] if that resolution still isn't listed then i'm out of clues [12:45] blacklabelsk8: any success? [12:46] is there any app isntalled by default on xubuntu for .ppt files ? [12:46] bleh none, its like its not even looking at xorg.conf [12:46] that would be a powerpoint presentation, if i'm not mistaken. openoffice should be able to handle those. not sure if it's installed by default, though [12:47] not installed i think [12:47] blacklabelsk8: could you post your xorg.conf, just for comparison? [12:47] blah do i really have to install open office ? :/ [12:47] sure [12:48] floating: if you want to do some serious work with your machine you won't regret it ;) don't know if any other app is able to handle those files [12:49] http://pastebin.ca/1006874 [12:50] floating: have a look at http://icosahedron.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/viewing-powerpoint-on-linux/ [12:50] its all those "configured blah blah device" entries that freak me out [12:50] I've never seen that in an xorg.conf [12:53] blacklabelsk8: this is mine http://pastebin.ca/1006875 [12:54] afaik the monitor id and the monitor listed in your screen section should be the same. don't know if that'd make a difference here, with no special settings [12:56] they look pretty much the same [12:56] apart from that, you might want to try to set a device via 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' [12:57] well see there it says "Voodoo3 tdfx" so thats what it should be [12:59] in the one you pasted it just says Configured Video Device, without any settings. but i'm really just guessing here, i'm not one of the linux gurus [13:00] elrood yeu thx this tonicpoint is nice [13:00] floating: np, google is your friend ;) [13:01] hmm, might of gotten the monitor set right via displayconfig-gtk [13:02] seems to have gotten stuck while testing the new res [13:02] i wonder how i could open a .ppt file directly with that.. hmm hmm, something like java tonicpoint.jar and i can open that tonicpoint, but how can i open something with java and then with that that opens up, i open something like ppt [13:03] wonder if anyone got what i meant :P [13:03] not really *g [13:03] that tonicpoint is simple .jar file and i have to open tonicpoint with java [13:03] OOo would open it no prob, otherwise I'd say try the Microsoft Powerpoint viewer through Wine [13:04] how can i open ppt with tonicpoint that has to be opened with java [13:04] tonicpoint.jar is not executable [13:04] it says [13:04] java -jar tonicpoint.jar ? [13:05] haha, okay I changed the monitor from unknown to my model and logged out and logged in with the hopes of 1024x768 only to get a green flashing 'D' in the middle topleft of my screen :P [13:06] you know you can get to a console via ctrl-alt-f1, do you? [13:07] wouldnt let me switch to any virtual terminal [13:07] Elrood: what thta do ? i got some errors (unknown source) and stuff [13:07] i can open up tonicpoint.jar with java runtime in xfce, but if i want to open ppt directly :( [13:08] would be nice trick to learn how [13:08] wow :\ looks like the whole install is fried now [13:08] floating: sorry, can't really help there [13:09] I rebooted and it seems to have gotten stuck trying to start x....no virtual terms, nothing displayed on the screen [13:09] okz, ill look around thx for the app^^ [13:09] np, have fun and good luck [13:12] hm.. you should always be a ble to get to a term, no matter how badly the settings for x got damaged. sorry, no clue, black [13:12] hehe yeah, its got me, never seen a distro act like this, no matter what its been installed on === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [13:13] blacklabelsk8: what graphics ard? intel? nvidia? [13:13] 3dfx, voodoo3 [13:14] omg, that's old [13:14] haha I suppose so [13:14] blacklabelsk8: wasn't it, like, an addition to a graphics card? [13:15] * TheSheep has voodoo2 lying around somewhere [13:15] * Elrood feels like black magic is creeping into the channel [13:15] I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean, its a completely contained 2d/3d card [13:18] blacklabelsk8: it doesn't have a second video socket to connect a real video card? [13:18] not that I'm aware of, it cant do SLI like Voodoo2's [13:20] I see, sorry, got em confused [14:40] workspaces are awesome, does vista have em? [14:41] no [14:41] new osx is supposed to have them [15:10] hi [15:15] has anyone tried to recover grub using the alternate Hardy cd? [15:22] i did not do something like it [15:22] where are the settings what atarter are in the bars? [15:23] i wanted to install alls new and delete the settings. but somehow they are still there [15:30] slow-motion: what's atarter? [15:30] starter [15:30] * TheSheep blinks [15:30] slow-motion: can you rephrase the sentence? I think I'm dumb today [15:30] where are the settings what starter are in the bars? [15:31] i wanted to install all new and delete the settings. but somehow they are still there [15:31] starter in teh bars? [15:31] you mean panel plugins? [15:31] yes [15:32] ~/.config/xfce4/panel/ [15:32] i deleted the .config folder [15:32] TheSheep: are you sure? [15:33] PsynoKhi0: yes, there is a panels.xml file that lists the plugins and panel settings, and a bunch of .rc files that lists the settings of particular plugins [15:33] there might be some stuff trailing in the .cache folder [15:33] i see them there. but i'm shure before the installation i deleted the whole .config folder [15:34] slow-motion: I think they are created from defaults when the directory doesn't exist [15:34] slow-motion: defaults are in /etc/xdg/xfce4 [15:35] TheSheep: because just like slow-motion, I got rid of the .config folder before reinstalling xubuntu and the applets were exactly the same when I first logged in after that [15:35] or maybe xfce wrote them back while it was still running and so they are had been there while installation [15:36] PsynoKhi0: there is nothing about panels in the .cache [15:36] slow-motion: yes [15:37] ok. then i have to leave xfce and delete them from a terminal the next time i dont want them [15:37] or kill the panel first [15:39] i will take a look at it another time. but thank you for your help [15:40] playing the-mana-world at the moment *g* [15:42] slow-motion: seiken densetsu? [15:42] what? [15:43] slow-motion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiken_Densetsu_3 [15:43] ah, sorry [15:44] http://themanaworld.org/ < TheSheep [15:45]