| killsalad | stgraber: ok but nowadays most 'old' computers have a burner alredy ;) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| killsalad | i'm talking about 3-4 years old machines | 00:00 |
| killsalad | but i must agree with you | 00:01 |
| killsalad | ok - diferent question : will webcam work with client? | 00:02 |
| ogra | neither webcam, nor burning nor microphones work yet, patches happily accepted ;) | 00:10 |
| ogra | burning should be the easiest to implement as long as the burner has burnproof support | 00:11 |
| killsalad | ogra: so only USB sticks and printers ? | 00:13 |
| ogra | scanners with some fiddling (see ltsp.org docs) | 00:13 |
| ogra | but yes | 00:13 |
| ogra | block devices of any kind and printers atm | 00:14 |
| killsalad | ok - just few words like edubuntu rules, and i can send my paper to editor ;) | 00:17 |
| stgraber | ogra: what's the problem with microphones and pulseaudio ? is it only working for output ? | 00:17 |
| ogra | stgraber, a proper pulse setup is needed for capturing, we dont have that yet | 00:18 |
| ogra | stgraber, i have two things on my list for intrepid ltsp, cleaning up th epulse setup is one | 00:18 |
| ogra | (localapps is the other) | 00:19 |
| ogra | i'll talk to the kernel guys in prague about iscsi, we can probably get burning going or at least have a spec for intrepid+1 | 00:20 |
| stgraber | in my opinion, webcam should be higher priority than CD burners as most "real" thin clients just don't have a CD burner but have a USB plug. (even if I don't quite have an idea of how we could make a webcam to work) | 00:22 |
| ogra | there is an old ltsp 4 tgz that implements that for the old 4.2 we just have ot take a look :) | 00:23 |
| ogra | (and probably need to improve) | 00:23 |
| stgraber | I just had a quick look at something called ltspwebcam, it's basically about installing camserv in the chroot which then open a TCP port sending a batch of jpeg images taken from the webcam | 00:27 |
| stgraber | that's release 0.1 though, maybe there was a better implementation | 00:27 |
| ogra | no, i think thats it | 00:28 |
| ogra | we can look at how thats doing it and can make it work with gstreamer ;) | 00:28 |
| stgraber | I used some tools some time ago to create multiple /dev/videoX from the same video stream but applying various effects (face detection). Maybe it's possible to create a /dev/videoX device based on a network video stream. | 00:30 |
| stgraber | that would make it work with just all softwares using a standard V4L interface | 00:30 |
| ogra | hmm, on kernel level ? | 00:30 |
| killsalad | sorry for interrupting but wouldn't it be better if there was somethig like network device, it probably would be hard to implement | 00:30 |
| ogra | well, it would make sense to have the compression on the client to not saturate your network | 00:31 |
| ogra | but i think gstreamer pipes can do that | 00:31 |
| killsalad | i mean that terminal could forward a device, and server would see it as /dev/ndev/usb/sth1 | 00:31 |
| ogra | heh | 00:32 |
| ogra | if it would be that easy we would lobe to do it that way even for usb keys :) | 00:32 |
| ogra | *love | 00:32 |
| stgraber | yeah, I did some streaming with gstreamer, it's easy to get it working. The problem is to then have the video stream used in desktop apps | 00:32 |
| ogra | well, it would cretainly restrict you to gstreamer apps | 00:33 |
| ogra | but thats better than nothing | 00:33 |
| stgraber | most apps I have written using gstreamer to access webcams directly use the v4lsource or v4l2source so accessing /dev/videoX. You can easily replace that source by a network stream but the software would have to propose this option. I don't think you can easy make v4l2source to use a network stream instead of a real /dev/videoX device | 00:34 |
| stgraber | (except if there is an abstraction layer like "webcamsource" that I'm not aware of) | 00:34 |
| ogra | hmm | 00:35 |
| navetz | hey has anyone here got dualscreen working with a intel i810 ? | 00:35 |
| ogra | LaserJock, btw, i uploaded the "final" hardy classmate image today in case you want to try | 00:36 |
| ogra | with full suspend/resume support now | 00:36 |
| LaserJock | I might just do that | 00:40 |
| LaserJock | I've had a heck of a time getting time to install the images | 00:40 |
| LaserJock | but I got the starter replaced in my car and the wife is at a party | 00:40 |
| ogra | its not urgent .. intel found some testers as well finally | 00:40 |
| ogra | (even though thats slightly late for the dev cycle :P) | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | heh | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | seems like I'm late for everything these days :( | 00:42 |
| ogra | oh, come on, you did a lot | 00:42 |
| ogra | dont underestimate your work | 00:43 |
| ogra | anyway, bed time for me | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | night | 00:44 |
| ogra | night :) | 00:44 |
| humbolto | do I need to install ldm for a proper ltsp environment? | 01:01 |
| humbolto | what else? | 01:01 |
| humbolto | I started with the Hardy Server CD. | 01:01 |
| humbolto | Probably not the right choice. | 01:01 |
| humbolto | installed ltsp-server-standalone so far, fixed /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf and started to build a client environment. | 01:02 |
| humbolto | wasn't there supposed to be an app helping me with all that? | 01:02 |
| humbolto | I probably should have started with the alternate CD, right? | 01:03 |
| johnny_ | ltsp-build-client does all the work | 01:07 |
| neil_d | hi, I have a ltsp setup with separate dhcp and tftp servers, now the client boots :) but it hangs at 'verifying password' which service handles this ? | 01:42 |
| johnny_ | ssh on the ltsp server | 01:43 |
| neil_d | johnny: are you sure ? I thought ssh was just a secure shell | 01:44 |
| neil_d | ogra: are you there ? | 01:46 |
| achandrashekar | johnny: okay other apps are responding fine..firefox is very slow..especially going on youtube..after installing flash for 32 bit. | 01:54 |
| achandrashekar | johnny: I killed sound..and still it seems sluggish. | 01:55 |
| achandrashekar | have you run into such an issue? | 01:55 |
| neil_d | my system has separate dhcp and tftp servers, now the client boots :) but it hangs at 'verifying password' which service handles this ? | 02:11 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: i believe that has to do with ssh key s | 02:18 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: ssh keys | 02:18 |
| neil_d | achandrashekar: I just installed the ltsp yesterday, and built the client system, so I don't think the ssh keys could be out of sync. | 02:22 |
| johnny_ | unless you changed the ip | 02:32 |
| neil_d | johnny: the IP of the two servers can't change | 02:47 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: i believe a ctrl-alt-f7 will let you in on where its hanging....johnny might be able to confirm that. | 02:48 |
| johnny_ | it's easier to disable the splash and quiet options in /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default | 02:53 |
| neil_d | achandrashekar: johnny_: its just won't verify the name/password :( how is this done ? | 02:54 |
| johnny_ | i told you | 02:55 |
| johnny_ | ssh | 02:55 |
| johnny_ | ldm is just a fancy front end over ssh | 02:55 |
| johnny_ | for user accounts on the ltsp server | 02:55 |
| johnny_ | heading home .. i'll be back online in a fewz | 02:56 |
| neil_d | so is there any way to test this is working ? how do I find out what is going on ? | 02:57 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: where is the ltsp end of things installed? | 02:59 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: whereever that is a check in /var/log/syslog might tell you what is happening. | 03:01 |
| neil_d | achandrashekar: /opt/ltsp etc. is on the tftp server | 03:01 |
| neil_d | sorry got to go now. bye! | 03:02 |
| achandrashekar | neil_d: okay...and if you do do the sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys it certainly cant hurt right...and then try again..or have you done that? | 03:02 |
| neil_d | achandrashekar: not yet | 03:02 |
| achandrashekar | id try that first | 03:02 |
| johnny | is there anything in gutsy that requires the 2.6.24 kernel? | 03:34 |
| johnny | err | 03:34 |
| johnny | hardy | 03:34 |
| johnny | kinda wondering about seeing if that makes my internet problems go away | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | what do you mean by "requires"? | 03:50 |
| johnny | uhmm | 03:59 |
| johnny | same as how if you wanted certain things to work in gnome for file changes, you wanted a kernel with inotify | 04:00 |
| johnny | which didn't come until 2.6.13 | 04:00 |
| johnny | i want to test if reverting to 2.6.22 solves my network issue | 04:01 |
| johnny | then i can verify whether it is kernel bug or not | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | johnny: ah, I doubt it'd do much | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | if you grab the Gutsy kernel and module packages if you need them | 04:04 |
| sicarri | hello | 04:04 |
| sicarri | what r the system requirements for 8.04 | 04:05 |
| johnny | they should still be there LaserJock | 04:06 |
| johnny | this isn't a new install | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | johnny: ah, then that's easy :-) | 04:07 |
| johnny | yeah. i just wanted to make sure there wasnt' something new in 2.6.24 that was needed | 04:09 |
| johnny | seems to lock up the network reliably once a day | 04:09 |
| johnny | not the same time | 04:10 |
| johnny | but only once a day | 04:10 |
| neil_d | hi, I have a ltsp installation, with a seperate DHCP server, the client boot into gdm, where it asks for a name/password, it then says 'verify' and waits around for a while (a couple of minutes) then goes back to the name/password request. why doesn't it continue ?? | 07:27 |
| neil_d | ogra: hi | 07:27 |
| johnny | it is not gdm | 07:32 |
| johnny | it is ldm | 07:32 |
| johnny | are you sure you typed in the user name and password of an account that exists on your server? | 07:32 |
| johnny | test it out.. | 07:32 |
| johnny | ssh user@servername | 07:33 |
| neil_d | johnny: yep there is only one. | 07:35 |
| johnny | was that ssh successful? | 07:36 |
| neil_d | no! | 07:37 |
| johnny | what did it say? | 07:37 |
| neil_d | it said "ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.10 port 22: Connection refused" | 07:38 |
| neil_d | maybe I need to install the ssh meta package ? | 07:40 |
| johnny | hmm.. it should have been installed | 07:40 |
| johnny | package should have depended on openssh-server | 07:40 |
| johnny | is sshd running? | 07:41 |
| neil_d | the openssh-server package isn't installed :( | 07:41 |
| neil_d | it looks like I need it should I install it ? | 07:42 |
| neil_d | johnny: I installed openssh-server now I get the message 'this workstation isn't ortherized to access this server' :( how do I fix this ? | 07:50 |
| johnny | run ltsp-update-sshkeys | 07:50 |
| johnny | it would have happened when you built the client, if you would have had openssh-server already | 07:51 |
| neil_d | i did, then reset the client, still no joy | 07:51 |
| johnny | oh.. you have to rebuild the image too | 07:51 |
| johnny | ltsp-update-image | 07:51 |
| neil_d | no! I will now | 07:51 |
| johnny | it copies files into the client chroot.. but since ubuntu uses nbd,.. the image needs to be updated to include it | 07:52 |
| neil_d | 9% and counting | 07:53 |
| neil_d | looks like the hardy ltsp package is missing a dependancey | 07:55 |
| neil_d | 39% and counting | 07:56 |
| * neil_d opps 29% | 07:56 | |
| neil_d | johnny: i'm in great, thanks a lot. | 08:01 |
| neil_d | ogra: are you there ? | 08:55 |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| killsalad | hi i've got a problem with unlock button in users-admin | 14:15 |
| killsalad | the button is locked and i can't unlock acces - it was fine after fresh install | 14:16 |
| RichEd | hi dtrask | 14:41 |
| RichEd | sorry about my slackness in reponses | 14:41 |
| karboxifene | bonjour | 14:42 |
| karboxifene | quelqu'un parle francais ? | 14:42 |
| karboxifene | hi, i need help for LTSP on edubuntu | 14:43 |
| karboxifene | ??? | 14:44 |
| karboxifene | nobody ? | 14:46 |
| killsalad | what kind of help? | 14:47 |
| karboxifene | oooops | 15:00 |
| killsalad | hi i've got a problem with unlock button in users-admin - it is greyed for user who is admin | 15:00 |
| karboxifene | i have some trouble for use ITALC under edubuntu 8.04 | 15:00 |
| karboxifene | i have some trouble for use ITALC under edubuntu 8.04 with LTSP | 15:01 |
| karboxifene | quit | 15:15 |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| hanedera | how can I speed up my LTSP environment? | 17:43 |
| hanedera | ogra once told me, you where about to include a no-encryprion/no-compression option for ssh to speed things up? did that make it into hardy? | 17:44 |
| johnny | yes | 17:45 |
| johnny | LDM_DIRECTX=Y in lts.conf | 17:45 |
| === juliux_ is now known as juliux | ||
| hanedera_ | Do I need to activate LDM somehow? Or does it get used as soon as it is installed. | 18:46 |
| hanedera_ | I have been cut offline, so I did not get any of your answers ... if there were any. | 18:47 |
| hanedera_ | Sorry, when I repeat myself, but I have no idea if my questions came through | 18:48 |
| hanedera_ | I have some default settings in /etc/kde3 but it seems they are not used! Seems like I have to set the env var KDEDIRS for that, right? Where do I set that? | 18:48 |
| hanedera_ | Do I have to activeate XDMCP in gdm in order to make use of LDM_DIRECTX=Y? | 18:48 |
| hanedera_ | johnny: you still there? | 18:53 |
| johnny | it doesn't use xdmcp | 18:53 |
| johnny | ldm is in the chroot | 18:53 |
| johnny | it should come up on client bot | 18:53 |
| johnny | boot* | 18:53 |
| johnny | it's the default | 18:53 |
| johnny | unless you changed SCREEN_07 | 18:54 |
| hanedera_ | johnny: Ah, I see. | 18:56 |
| hanedera_ | johnny: And LDM_DIRECTX=Y, what does that do actually? | 18:56 |
| johnny | doesnt' encrypt the actual X stuff via ssh | 18:57 |
| johnny | just uses ssh for auth | 18:57 |
| hanedera_ | but the traffic does still go through the ssh tunnel? | 18:58 |
| hanedera_ | johnny: do I still need to enable Localdev and sound in lts.conf these days or is this done by default now? | 18:59 |
| johnny | by default | 18:59 |
| hanedera_ | great! | 18:59 |
| johnny | since gutsy i think | 18:59 |
| hanedera_ | and for sound I do not even have to activate any pulseaudio server stuff by hand? it will just work? | 19:00 |
| johnny | uhmm..i'm guessing so | 19:01 |
| johnny | none of my terminals have speakers | 19:01 |
| johnny | i plugged in my laptop once, and i heard the ubuntu startup sound | 19:02 |
| johnny | but i didnt' check anywhere else | 19:02 |
| hanedera_ | everything is working! great! | 19:20 |
| privet | I am correct with saying that NBD is prefered over NFS? | 19:38 |
| stgraber | yep | 19:39 |
| privet | in my console when the client is booting I see: | 19:41 |
| privet | - getting IP etc. | 19:41 |
| privet | - rootserver: 192.168.22.1 rootpath: 192.168.22.2:/opt/ltsp/i386 | 19:42 |
| privet | file: | 19:42 |
| privet | - Error: Connect: Connection refused | 19:42 |
| stgraber | you seem to still use NFS | 19:42 |
| privet | what is trying to connect where? | 19:43 |
| stgraber | that 192.168.22.2:/opt/ltsp/i386 option is the NFS path, it doesn't exist with NBD | 19:43 |
| privet | aha | 19:43 |
| * privet is checking his DHCP setup | 19:43 | |
| stgraber | NBD is basically a daemon running on TCP port 2000 and exporting a whole filesystem, so no need of the rootpath option with it | 19:43 |
| ogra | the rootpath option doesnt matter, its simply ignored in nbd, no need to change your dhcp setup | 19:44 |
| privet | dhcp-vendorclass=pxe,PXEClient | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-vendorclass=eth,Etherboot | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-boot=net:pxe,/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0,pion,192.168.22.2 | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-boot=net:eth,/ltsp/i386/nbi.img,pion,192.168.22.2 | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-option=17,192.168.22.2:/opt/ltsp/i386 | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-option=48,192.168.22.2 # font-servers | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-option=49,192.168.22.2 # x-display-manager | 19:45 |
| privet | dhcp-option=66,pion # tftp-server-name | 19:45 |
| * privet should use pastebin with the next paste! | 19:45 | |
| privet | that is the DHCP config on openwrt with dnsmasq | 19:46 |
| stgraber | aren't you missing a next-server line ? (I'm not sure of how dnsmasq's config work though) | 19:46 |
| johnny | option 66 is the equivalent i think | 19:47 |
| privet | stgraber: I used ltsp 4.2 until last week with that config | 19:47 |
| johnny | you don't nee 48 or 49 privet | 19:47 |
| privet | the DHCP server is just pointing to where the LTSP server is | 19:47 |
| stgraber | ok, so maybe you have a problem with NBD on the server | 19:47 |
| stgraber | what's the result of : grep ltsp /etc/inetd.conf | 19:48 |
| privet | stgraber: this | 19:49 |
| privet | egrep "ltsp" /etc/inetd.conf | 19:49 |
| privet | 2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img | 19:49 |
| johnny | sure you don't have it firewalled or somethin? | 19:49 |
| stgraber | hmm, okay so nbd is correctly enabled | 19:49 |
| stgraber | can you try connecting to your 2000 port ? telnet localhost 2000 for example | 19:50 |
| privet | firewais clean | 19:50 |
| privet | notghing is listening on port 2000 | 19:50 |
| privet | sudo /etc/init.d/nbd-server start | 19:51 |
| privet | ** (process:20996): WARNING **: Could not parse config file: Could not open config file. | 19:51 |
| privet | ** Message: Nothing to do! Bye! | 19:51 |
| privet | nbd-server. | 19:51 |
| ogra | is your inetd up ? | 19:51 |
| ogra | eek, dont ! | 19:51 |
| privet | stgraber: okay- so that looks like a problem, yes? | 19:51 |
| ogra | nbdrootd is resposible for nbd in ltsp | 19:51 |
| johnny | it's served via inetd.. don't need that startup script | 19:51 |
| privet | aha. | 19:51 |
| ogra | it gets started by inetd (as you can see in your config line you grepped) | 19:51 |
| privet | ogra: okay- so that is fine. | 19:52 |
| privet | and xinetd is running | 19:52 |
| privet | but, should I not have a ndb/ltsp" entry in /etc/xinetd.d/ | 19:52 |
| ogra | xinetd doesnt use /etc/inetd.conf (and we dont actually support it in ltsp since its undistributable) | 19:52 |
| johnny | undistributable ? | 19:53 |
| stgraber | IIRC Ubuntu is using openbsd-inetd for LTSP which uses /etc/inetd.conf | 19:53 |
| ogra | there are fedors scripts for xinetd | 19:53 |
| ogra | *fedora | 19:53 |
| johnny | i'm using xinetd myself .. since we dont have anyting with /etc/inetd.conf in portage | 19:53 |
| privet | I am talking about the include directory /etc/xinetd.d/ | 19:54 |
| johnny | privet, unless you're using xinetd for something else. don't bother with it | 19:54 |
| johnny | stick with the ubuntu method | 19:54 |
| privet | johnny: sure. | 19:54 |
| johnny | the ubuntu ltsp scripts rely on it | 19:54 |
| johnny | otherwise you have to self manage it | 19:55 |
| privet | johnny: agreed- I do not want to do that. | 19:55 |
| privet | so doing telnet to port 2000 should make xinet start the ndb server, yes? | 19:55 |
| johnny | no.. it should make openbsd-inetd start the nbd server :) | 19:56 |
| stgraber | yes, that works fine with openbsd-inetd and not with xinetd if you don't have a custom config done | 19:56 |
| stgraber | so the best way to fix your issue if you don't need xinetd is to simply install openbsd-inetd | 19:56 |
| ogra | johnny, the xinetd license is GPL incompatible ... that keeps it off any ubuntu CD | 19:57 |
| johnny | hmm... ok | 19:57 |
| johnny | suprised it's shipped anywhere then | 19:57 |
| ogra | privet, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/wtogami%40redhat.com-20080430174825-lpp79bxfg3vtz4fy?file_id=nbdrootd-20080113202835-qh04blxjlipc6m7w-2 | 19:58 |
| ogra | i have no clue if it works though | 19:58 |
| privet | <click> | 19:58 |
| ogra | especially i have no idea how it would get the image name and path | 19:59 |
| privet | ogra: okay, I simply iinstalled openbsd-ientd and got rid of xinetd | 19:59 |
| privet | telnet localhost 2000 | 19:59 |
| privet | Trying 127.0.0.1... | 19:59 |
| privet | Connected to localhost. | 19:59 |
| privet | Escape character is '^]'. | 19:59 |
| privet | NBDMAGICB��S c ^] | 19:59 |
| ogra | yeah | 19:59 |
| ogra | thats it | 19:59 |
| stgraber | try booting your client now, it should work fine | 20:00 |
| ogra | johnny, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FSF_approved_software_licenses for reference | 20:00 |
| johnny | ogra, it's too bad i can't make nbd support work yet.. due to limitations in our initramfs builder | 20:01 |
| johnny | i hope i can convince somebody to help me come up with a solution | 20:01 |
| johnny | and even get my current code integrated :) | 20:01 |
| ogra | johnny, nbd upstream added initramfs suport recently | 20:01 |
| johnny | uhmm? | 20:01 |
| johnny | i probably have to create an initrafms overlay | 20:01 |
| ogra | probably | 20:02 |
| ogra | no clue how gentoo works in that area | 20:02 |
| johnny | some silly custom thing.. it's mostly used to build kernels for the livecd, and for folks to get bootsplash | 20:02 |
| johnny | ogra, i switched my ltsp server back to kernel 2.6.22 | 20:03 |
| johnny | seeing if that solves the issue | 20:03 |
| johnny | if it goes 2 days without needing to be restarted, then i can verify it's a kernel bug | 20:03 |
| ogra | that would actually be good, so we can fix it for 8.04.1 | 20:04 |
| privet | getting the same "connection refused" | 20:04 |
| privet | directly after that I get | 20:04 |
| johnny | privet, firewall? | 20:04 |
| privet | mount: Mounting /rofs on /root/rofs failed: invalid argument | 20:04 |
| privet | johnny: nope- no FW | 20:04 |
| johnny | ogra, i just hope people at the store are straight with me.. about rebooting :) | 20:05 |
| ogra | yeah, thats fallout if it cant mount the image | 20:05 |
| privet | johnny: I can telnet to that port from other PCs n the LAN | 20:05 |
| privet | ogra: so what is "rofs"? | 20:05 |
| ogra | the nbd image | 20:06 |
| ogra | or rather /rofs is the mountpoint where it shows up on the client | 20:06 |
| privet | checklist... | 20:07 |
| privet | - dhcp is fine (I can get IP and etc.) | 20:07 |
| privet | - tftpboot is fine, I can see it talking to it | 20:07 |
| privet | cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf | 20:08 |
| privet | [Default] | 20:08 |
| privet | XSERVER = auto | 20:08 |
| privet | SERVER = 192.168.22.2 | 20:08 |
| privet | SCREEN_02 = shell | 20:08 |
| privet | that is my complete lts.conf file | 20:08 |
| ogra | drop SERVER | 20:08 |
| privet | huh? | 20:08 |
| ogra | drop XSERVER (auto is default) | 20:08 |
| johnny | and XSERVER .. | 20:08 |
| privet | oooh | 20:08 |
| ogra | SCREEN_02 = shell will keep X from stating, not sure thats what you want | 20:09 |
| privet | ogra: right now, I will settle for that. | 20:09 |
| privet | all I get now is a "ash" prompt | 20:09 |
| privet | should I be seeing things like "running /scripts/nfs-top" and "running /scripts/nfs-bottom" | 20:11 |
| privet | ? | 20:11 |
| hanedera | what else can I improve LTSP performance? I have already activated LDM_DIRECTX | 20:11 |
| hanedera | my users complain that LTSP was more performant under feisty than it is now under hardy. | 20:12 |
| johnny | privet, yes that is normal | 20:13 |
| privet | johnny: okay. | 20:14 |
| privet | when booting the client, I do not see anything from a tcpdump for port 2000 | 20:14 |
| privet | that is a problem... | 20:15 |
| hanedera | Are there any more tweaks? In my opinion Hardy LTSP is the best ever, I don't want to go back. The sound support is perfect!!! | 20:15 |
| johnny | hanedera, you haven't specified your performance metric .. | 20:15 |
| johnny | what's slower | 20:16 |
| johnny | you need many more details before asking what to tweak | 20:16 |
| johnny | need to identify the bottleneck first | 20:16 |
| hanedera | hmm, windows are drawn more slowly. | 20:17 |
| hanedera | general responsiveness. however, I can watch video and it looks perfect. | 20:17 |
| hanedera | when I resize the window to fullscreen, this takes a while on the contrary. | 20:18 |
| johnny | try 2.6.22 kernel | 20:18 |
| hanedera | client or server? | 20:18 |
| johnny | on the client first i guess | 20:18 |
| johnny | 2.6.24 has been very slow on certain operations for me | 20:18 |
| johnny | i can hardly compile stuff in the background now without it skipping my music | 20:19 |
| johnny | altho it's better with 2.6.25 | 20:19 |
| hanedera | kernels are getting worse these days! | 20:19 |
| hanedera | I had better multimedia performance with a -ck 2.4 kernel on an old i586 than I have today on my 3 year old laptop. | 20:20 |
| hanedera | sucks! | 20:20 |
| johnny | ck is good .. | 20:20 |
| johnny | you should try 2.6.25 if you're that familiar | 20:20 |
| johnny | i just figured reverting to somethign you had previously would be easier | 20:21 |
| hanedera | ah, just remembered I have a k7 but not the k7 kernel installed. Will try that first. Don't want to use non-supported kernels if possible. | 20:23 |
| hanedera | johnny: do you have any other hints where I could look for bottelnecks? | 20:23 |
| johnny | i think you should start with that | 20:23 |
| johnny | i haven't had a chance to play with mine much since upgrading to hardy | 20:24 |
| hanedera | hmm, just see -k7 does actually install the generic kernel. | 20:25 |
| hanedera | have the server kernel currently I think | 20:25 |
| johnny | yes.. generic is what ubuntu ships now | 20:26 |
| johnny | iirc | 20:26 |
| hanedera | installed from server cd | 20:26 |
| hanedera | what I am still batteling with is to get KDE read /etc/kde3 for default configs. having a env var KDEDIRS="/etc/kde3" does not seem to do the trick. | 20:31 |
| johnny | sorry.. don't know anything about kde | 20:41 |
| johnny | most of the people just use gnome | 20:41 |
| hanedera | me too. just have a couple of users still on kmail | 20:43 |
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