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nixternaluploading the final kde 4.0.4 core package to hardy-backports!!!00:12
Riddell_Sime, sebas: I'm going to put my kde 4 power of guidance power manager in kdereview and get into extragear for kde 4.100:16
nixternalRiddell: I just need to do the extragear packages now and all of 4.0.4 will be in backports...should be a couple of hours for total completion00:20
Riddellnixternal: you rock00:21
nixternalRiddell: we have 2 new packages as well:  kio_gopher and skanlite - how do we get these in?00:21
Riddellnixternal: maybe I should let through kdelibs and see how long it takes00:21
Riddellnixternal: package and upload if you want, it'll land in New00:22
nixternalk00:22
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LeeJunFanDid something change with konq in hardy or am I just missing a package for konquerors tool menu that used to have a lot of useful stuff like browser identification and archiving pages?00:34
RiddellLeeJunFan: works for me00:35
Riddelltry installing konq-plugins00:35
Riddell_Sime, sebas: on the other hand, I've no idea how to compile xf86misc with CMake00:36
LeeJunFanRiddell: yeah, that's it. It got removed when I installed the kdebase-kio-plugins with the fix for automount. thanks.00:38
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* vorian waves01:22
voriananything this n00b can do to help?01:24
Riddellhi vorian01:24
vorianheya Riddell :)01:24
Riddellplenty merges to be done01:24
vorianexcellent01:25
Riddellkio-apt for example to pick a small one01:25
nixternalbah, kgraphviewer for 4.0.4 deps on qt 4.4 :/01:28
Riddellho hum01:30
Riddellmoan on kde-packager I guess and move on01:30
Riddellmoan politely :)01:30
nixternalmoan politely to toma? no way! :)01:36
nixternalonly a couple more extragear packages to struggle through and 4.0.4 is complete!01:54
nixternalkdebindings even updated smoothly01:54
nixternalwhile I mowed the lawn it chugged along and built01:55
* JontheEchidna throws cookies nixternal's way01:55
nixternalmmm, I just had a lovely piece of salmon, homemade tator salad, a bit of salad, some asparagus, and...not wine, but a nice Goose Island Honker's Ale01:56
nixternalmmm mmm good01:56
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JontheEchidnaI had a pack of instant noodles and a soda01:56
JontheEchidnamalnutrition ftw01:56
JontheEchidnaBut!01:57
JontheEchidnaI also had a full day's supply of vitamin C01:57
nixternalhaha01:57
nixternalargh, looks like another app with some trunk/ lovin', this time on the plasma side01:57
JontheEchidnaThey made 4.0.4 plasma depend on some parts of trunk? o_o01:58
nixternalnot plasma, but an extragear app02:00
JontheEchidnaah, I see.02:00
nixternalall of the core packages built w/o any probs, just needed to update some sonames in the .install files to 4.0.402:00
JontheEchidnaI've ran into similar problems with some kde-look plasmoids02:01
JontheEchidnaWell, similar to the degree that they sometimes use trunk-only functions02:01
JontheEchidnaSpeaking of which, I should probably upload my packages to revu...02:02
voriannifty02:16
vorianthis may take a while :)02:17
* Riddell snoozes02:18
voriannn02:18
nixternalni ni Riddell02:20
JontheEchidnaI can has revu?02:29
JontheEchidnahttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=coremoid02:29
JontheEchidnahttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=toggle-compositing02:29
JontheEchidnahttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=plasma-wifi02:29
nixternalprobably not for a few days :)02:30
JontheEchidnaok, things gonna get busy pretty soon?02:30
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nixternalyup, I am the new REVU Coordinator, so I am going to start setting up REVU days02:31
vorianholy moly nixternal, that's gonna be a rather large workload02:33
nixternalvorian: you think? :)02:35
vorian:)02:43
vorianyeah02:43
* JontheEchidna sleeps03:03
voriannn03:05
voriandiff vs debian version and ubuntu version requried for review then?03:16
nixternalScottK: you around at all?03:35
ScottKSort of03:36
ScottKnixternal: What's up?03:36
nixternalhey, kde 4.0.4 has 2 new packages, how do I go about setting them up for Hardy?03:36
nixternaldo I just add them to ~hardy1 / hardy-backports and upload and they will go into the new queue?03:37
ScottKYes.03:37
nixternalI have scoured the crap out of the wiki03:37
nixternalOK, thanks!03:37
nixternaljeesh, created a bunch of backport reports these past 2 days03:38
ScottKnixternal: If you find a good spot to mention it, please fix the wiiki.03:38
nixternalI will do that03:38
vorianwhat is this warning?03:45
vorianW: kzenexplorer source: debhelper-script-needs-versioned-build-depends dh_icons (>= 5.0.51~)03:45
ScottKvorian: Make sure the pacakge build depends on debhelper (>= 5.0.51~)04:03
ScottKPretty much what it says.04:03
vorianhmm04:05
vorianthanks ScottK :)04:05
ScottKvorian: If you don't know how to handle what lintiain is telling you, run it again with -i and it will give you more detail.04:06
vorianlemme see ....04:07
vorianexcellent!04:11
nixternaland let the Intrepid development begin!!!!04:32
* nixternal creates a new chroot and pbuilder04:32
* nixternal forgot to enable -updates and -backports for Hardy04:32
nixternalderr04:33
nixternalooh, only 4 merges with my name on um04:33
nixternalyeeehaw!04:33
vorian^504:35
nixternalW: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/intrepid/build/11964/. dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb04:37
nixternalwth04:37
voriannight05:00
ScottKdist-upgrade your hardy pbuilder05:01
nixternalderr05:02
nixternalthat is what I forgot to do05:02
nixternalgrab the new pbuilder05:02
nixternalhrmm05:03
nixternalnevermind that05:03
nixternalvorian: I just gone ahead and requested a sync for kvirc as our changes can be dropped for the time being05:16
nixternalthat may change as I go through and do bug triage on kvirc...kvirc is a tricky beast05:17
nixternalalso, have you touched any of my other packages? you might want to give the original uploaders a heads up as well that you are working on one of their packages, so we don't duplicate efforts05:17
nixternaloi, smb4k is going to be a super fun one05:18
nixternalheh, actually it was just another sync05:24
nixternalyay! only 1 merge baby05:25
yuriymornfall: just e-mailed you a couple patches and a backtrace for a crash06:43
apacheloggerRiddell: hehe, I was as surprised as you ;-)07:14
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Seregahi there10:12
jpatrickhi Serega10:14
voriannixternal: roger11:19
RiddellHobbsee: please raise the build priority of kde4libs in backports11:58
HobbseeRiddell: got a URL on you?11:58
Hobbseeoh, found it11:59
* Hobbsee waits for launchpad11:59
HobbseeRiddell: done12:01
ArbyRiddell: I merged kdeaccessability this morning if you get time to take a look12:06
Arbyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaccessibility/+bug/22683912:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226839 in kdeaccessibility "merge kdeaccessibility 3.5.9-1 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed]12:06
Riddellthanks Arby , can't look until this evening though12:11
Arbyno problem12:11
Seregahi Riddell how it's going with my patch?12:22
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nixternalRiddell: can you get my dot password for me? I seem to have lost it16:48
nixternalRiddell: nevermind, now my password works16:49
nixternalhrmm16:49
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nixternalRiddell: mind looking at the KDE Italia article on the dot for me, I have made some changes..thanks16:59
nixternalOK, after further discussion about backporting with pitti, I think anything else we do with Hardy needs to be done 100% properly and not whinged at all.17:58
nixternalI would like to go for core-dev, but having poorly done a backporting process, I think I will hold off so it doesn't come back to bite me during the membership process17:58
ScottKnixternal: For my big backporting excercise (clamav), I built tested in a PPA first and then pushed the backports.17:59
nixternalthat was what I wanted to do initially18:01
nixternalI built and tested locally and then pushed to -backports18:01
ScottKServes you right for listening to people like me who said don't bother.18:01
nixternallol18:01
nixternalbackporting the way we did was understandable, but not correct18:02
nixternalpitti understood that the reason for the direct backport was because we were planning on following the 4.1 branch with Intrepid18:02
yuriyso what is incorrect? that you backported a package that's not already in the dev release?18:04
nixternalwell, that isn't so much incorrect, but that is the proper way18:08
nixternalthe bug reports I filed were really for a paper trail, and were not done per "backporting rules and regulations"18:08
nixternalthey really shouldn't have been backported, but more than likely SRU'd18:09
nixternalbecause of the bug fixes and what not18:09
nixternalbackporting is really more about functionality than bug fixes18:09
ScottKIf you'd uploaded to Intrepid and then backported, you'd have been fine.  I think your approach was reasonable given we don't really care about 4.0 in Intrepid.18:12
nixternalya, pitti understood that18:14
smarteris desktop-effects-kde maintained in a bazaar branch?18:47
smarterRiddell: ^19:00
Arby Riddell: kdeaddons merge to add to the list when you have time19:09
Arbyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/22700419:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 227004 in kdeaddons "Merge kdeaddons 4:3.5.9-1 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed]19:09
holaaholaa20:41
nixternalhow can I set how much my multimedia keys control volume? ie. isntead of increasing/decreasing volume by 10, I would like to do by 521:28
nixternalgah, never mind21:29
nixternalctrl+volup/voldown will do 1% steps21:30
ArbyNoooo.21:48
Arby2.5h testbuilding a package and it dies due to lack of space :(21:49
nosrednaekim:(21:49
Arbyshould have made a bigger VM21:49
jpatrickArby: you build a kde* package?21:53
ArbyI was trying to build koffice21:54
Arbyand it appeared to be working21:54
jpatrickyou _poor_ thing21:54
* jpatrick points Arby at https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart21:54
* Arby points jpatrick at the rejected e-mail he got for not being an ubuntuero21:55
jpatrickArby: so, sign the CoC and become one?21:55
Arbyis ubuntero not the same as ubuntu member then?21:55
jpatrickno21:56
jpatrickUbuntero = someone who has sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct21:56
Arbyahhh, I thought they were21:56
Arbywhere do I sign it?21:56
jpatrickwhat's your LP id?21:56
Arbyrbirnie21:56
jpatrickArby: https://launchpad.net/~rbirnie21:57
Arbyyep that's me21:57
jpatrickArby: check the left sidebar for "Code of Conduct" and follow the tips there21:57
Arbyok21:57
jpatrickafter that PPA will be all yours22:00
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Arbyjpatrick: thanks, signed.22:02
jpatrickyou're welcome22:03
RiddellScottK: did you try debootstrap backport?  an intrepid chroot doesn't seem to include apt-get22:11
Arbyjpatrick: ppa is rejecting with22:13
ArbyRejected:MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive22:13
Arbyany idea what I've done wrong?22:14
jpatrickArby: uploading the tarball?22:14
ArbyI was following the quick start guide so I did:22:15
Arbydput my-ppa koffice_1.6.3-5ubuntu1_source.changes22:15
Arbyas shown on the page you gave me22:15
jpatrickArby: that's odd as your PPA doesn't appear to have anything22:16
jpatrickArby: change the changelog entry's version to 1.6.3-5ubuntu1~ppa1 and 'debuild -S -sa -k$YOURKEY' it and reupload22:17
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Arbytrying now22:18
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  I'm using the backported debootstrap.22:22
RiddellScottK: and you have an intrepid chroot with apt-get?22:22
ScottKRiddell: I dist-upgraded a Hardy chroot and it worked when I did it.  Let me try and update it and see if it works.22:23
* apachelogger pokes jpatrick with http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kgrubeditor22:23
Riddellthat's not the same thing at all22:23
ScottKRiddell: OK.22:23
ScottKRiddell: I upgraded a hardy chroot to intrepid and I created a new hardy chroot.  Both worked last I checked.22:24
ScottKI'm updated my Sid chroot several times.22:24
ScottKSo except for creating a Intrepid chroot, I think I'd done all the normal operations one might expect.22:25
ScottKIncluding I logged into the Hardy chroot and used apt-get from within the chroot.22:26
jpatrickapachelogger: GPL v2 is /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 on Debian22:26
jpatrickapachelogger: "Exec=gksu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kgrubeditor," ?22:27
apacheloggerjpatrick: kgrubeditor is providing 2 desktop files, one for KDE and one for xfce/gnome22:28
apacheloggertherefore gksu fullpath22:28
jpatrickOK22:28
jpatrickapachelogger: maybe kgrubeditor, conflicts and replaces: qgrubeditor instead of epoch?22:29
apacheloggerjpatrick: I would need a dummy package in order to get a proper transition22:30
apacheloggerand since qgrubeditor's version > kgrubeditor's the transition needs an epoch22:30
apacheloggerbesides, I always wanted to use an epoch ;-)22:30
jpatrickapachelogger: +1, however I cannot log into REVU right now (not on my computer)22:32
apacheloggerjpatrick: I'll +1 for you ;-)22:32
jpatrickgo ahead (you have logs for proof)22:33
ScottKRiddell: When I try to update it now, I get a Perl transition related problem.22:33
awen_ScottK: I have a fix for bug 207473 that didn't make it into hardy ... how should i go by getting it into hardy-updates?22:33
jpatrickapachelogger: I assume you've built it tho?22:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 207473 in hal "Screen brightness double level changes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20747322:33
ScottKRiddell: This one http://www.bebt.de/blog/debian/archives/2008/05/02/T07_25_25/index.html22:33
apacheloggerjpatrick: nope22:33
apacheloggergoing to do that before uploading22:33
* apachelogger is kinda busy with school these days22:34
* jpatrick too22:34
ScottKawen_: First step is get the fix in Intrepid.22:35
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ScottKawen_: Then we R!ddell if he thinks it's worth an SRU.22:35
jpatrickapachelogger: problem with epoch is that Debian may decide to package it and they don't have it..22:36
apacheloggerthen they would need to apply an epoch in order to be compatible with ubuntu I guess22:37
Arbyjpatrick: still no luck22:38
Arbydput my-ppa koffice_1.6.3-5ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes si still rejected22:38
awen_ScottK: okay ... i'll have a debdiff ready shortly22:38
jpatrickArby: go to your LP PPA thing and see if you can delete your last upload22:38
jpatrickapachelogger: lovely22:38
Arbyjpatrick: there's nothing there to delete, it's empty22:39
jpatrickArby: weird22:40
Arbyindeed22:40
ArbyI'm pretty sure this is a pebkac but I don't know what I'm doing22:40
jpatrickArby: try explaining the situation in #launchpad and maybe someone there knows what could be up22:40
* apachelogger is wondering why two people have to block ppa with kernel builds at the very same time -.-22:40
* jpatrick => bed22:41
jpatricknight everyone22:41
apacheloggernini jpatrick22:41
apacheloggerArby: what is the rejection reason?22:41
jpatricknacht apachelogger22:41
awen_ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu17.debdiff ... if you have a spare moment some time22:42
Arbyapachelogger: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive22:42
apacheloggeruh22:42
apacheloggerthat sounds cool22:42
ScottKawen_: Just about to leave for now, so maybe later tonight or tomorrow.22:42
Arbyor not22:42
apacheloggerArby: just raise the ppa version22:42
apacheloggerppa222:43
apacheloggeror 1.122:43
apacheloggersomething like that22:43
awen_ScottK: just perfect, thanks22:43
Arbyapachelogger: OK, I'll try. seems odd since there is no existing ppa version22:43
apacheloggerArby: well maybe your pipe broke earlier so ppa received a broken file22:44
* SiNiESTrO is away: Ausente por ahora.22:50
jpatrickArby: I suggest asking in #launchpad would be best22:51
awen_can anybody remember the alternative powermanager / guidance tools that was being talked about to be interesting to look at for intrepid?22:51
ArbyI was about to22:51
* jpatrick => really at bed22:51
RiddellArby: what are you uploading to your ppa?22:52
ArbyRiddell: I was trying to use it to testbuild packages22:52
ArbyI tried to testbuild koffice earlier but it failed due to lack of space in an intrepid VM22:53
Arbyppa was suggested as an alternative22:53
Riddellawen_: powermanager, I've ported guidance one to kde 4, chap in kde-utils-devel is doing one that uses solid22:54
RiddellArby: intrepid seems a bit broken at the moment, koffice didn't compile because cdbs wouldn't install, should be ok just to test with hardy22:54
Arbyoh, OK22:54
Arbythat would explain why pbuilder was also being unfriendly22:55
awen_Riddell: do we have a testbuild already? ... if not i was thinking about doing one22:55
* awen_ wonders if the meeting saturday was dropped ... can't seem to find the logs22:57
Riddellawen_: of what?22:58
Riddellawen_: nobody turned up22:58
awen_Riddell: of whatever powermanager util we might be considering for intrepid ... i remember there was a talk about sticking with current g-p-m and porting it vs. some alternative application23:00
Riddellawen_: still is23:01
Riddellawen_: it's in bzr under launchpad.net/guidance23:02
awen_Riddell: ahh, cool ... do you remember what the alternative was also?23:04
Riddellawen_: nothing yet, but read up about thomas gillespie I think it is on kde-utils-devel23:05
awen_Riddell: found it ... looks cool23:10
awen_Riddell: if you need some help on specific areas in it ... or when the port is ready enough for a clean-up, i wouldn't mind looking through it23:12
nosrednaekimuhh oh... i'm grabbing a Suse liveCD for 4.1 :)23:19
nosrednaekimoh NM... too big <_<23:32

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