[00:12] <nixternal> uploading the final kde 4.0.4 core package to hardy-backports!!!
[00:16] <Riddell> _Sime, sebas: I'm going to put my kde 4 power of guidance power manager in kdereview and get into extragear for kde 4.1
[00:20] <nixternal> Riddell: I just need to do the extragear packages now and all of 4.0.4 will be in backports...should be a couple of hours for total completion
[00:21] <Riddell> nixternal: you rock
[00:21] <nixternal> Riddell: we have 2 new packages as well:  kio_gopher and skanlite - how do we get these in?
[00:21] <Riddell> nixternal: maybe I should let through kdelibs and see how long it takes
[00:22] <Riddell> nixternal: package and upload if you want, it'll land in New
[00:22] <nixternal> k
[00:34] <LeeJunFan> Did something change with konq in hardy or am I just missing a package for konquerors tool menu that used to have a lot of useful stuff like browser identification and archiving pages?
[00:35] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: works for me
[00:35] <Riddell> try installing konq-plugins
[00:36] <Riddell> _Sime, sebas: on the other hand, I've no idea how to compile xf86misc with CMake
[00:38] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: yeah, that's it. It got removed when I installed the kdebase-kio-plugins with the fix for automount. thanks.
[01:22]  * vorian waves
[01:24] <vorian> anything this n00b can do to help?
[01:24] <Riddell> hi vorian
[01:24] <vorian> heya Riddell :)
[01:24] <Riddell> plenty merges to be done
[01:25] <vorian> excellent
[01:25] <Riddell> kio-apt for example to pick a small one
[01:28] <nixternal> bah, kgraphviewer for 4.0.4 deps on qt 4.4 :/
[01:30] <Riddell> ho hum
[01:30] <Riddell> moan on kde-packager I guess and move on
[01:30] <Riddell> moan politely :)
[01:36] <nixternal> moan politely to toma? no way! :)
[01:54] <nixternal> only a couple more extragear packages to struggle through and 4.0.4 is complete!
[01:54] <nixternal> kdebindings even updated smoothly
[01:55] <nixternal> while I mowed the lawn it chugged along and built
[01:55]  * JontheEchidna throws cookies nixternal's way
[01:56] <nixternal> mmm, I just had a lovely piece of salmon, homemade tator salad, a bit of salad, some asparagus, and...not wine, but a nice Goose Island Honker's Ale
[01:56] <nixternal> mmm mmm good
[01:56] <JontheEchidna> I had a pack of instant noodles and a soda
[01:56] <JontheEchidna> malnutrition ftw
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> But!
[01:57] <JontheEchidna> I also had a full day's supply of vitamin C
[01:57] <nixternal> haha
[01:57] <nixternal> argh, looks like another app with some trunk/ lovin', this time on the plasma side
[01:58] <JontheEchidna> They made 4.0.4 plasma depend on some parts of trunk? o_o
[02:00] <nixternal> not plasma, but an extragear app
[02:00] <JontheEchidna> ah, I see.
[02:00] <nixternal> all of the core packages built w/o any probs, just needed to update some sonames in the .install files to 4.0.4
[02:01] <JontheEchidna> I've ran into similar problems with some kde-look plasmoids
[02:01] <JontheEchidna> Well, similar to the degree that they sometimes use trunk-only functions
[02:02] <JontheEchidna> Speaking of which, I should probably upload my packages to revu...
[02:16] <vorian> nifty
[02:17] <vorian> this may take a while :)
[02:18]  * Riddell snoozes
[02:18] <vorian> nn
[02:20] <nixternal> ni ni Riddell
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> I can has revu?
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=coremoid
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=toggle-compositing
[02:29] <JontheEchidna> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=plasma-wifi
[02:30] <nixternal> probably not for a few days :)
[02:30] <JontheEchidna> ok, things gonna get busy pretty soon?
[02:31] <nixternal> yup, I am the new REVU Coordinator, so I am going to start setting up REVU days
[02:33] <vorian> holy moly nixternal, that's gonna be a rather large workload
[02:35] <nixternal> vorian: you think? :)
[02:43] <vorian> :)
[02:43] <vorian> yeah
[03:03]  * JontheEchidna sleeps
[03:05] <vorian> nn
[03:16] <vorian> diff vs debian version and ubuntu version requried for review then?
[03:35] <nixternal> ScottK: you around at all?
[03:36] <ScottK> Sort of
[03:36] <ScottK> nixternal: What's up?
[03:36] <nixternal> hey, kde 4.0.4 has 2 new packages, how do I go about setting them up for Hardy?
[03:37] <nixternal> do I just add them to ~hardy1 / hardy-backports and upload and they will go into the new queue?
[03:37] <ScottK> Yes.
[03:37] <nixternal> I have scoured the crap out of the wiki
[03:37] <nixternal> OK, thanks!
[03:38] <nixternal> jeesh, created a bunch of backport reports these past 2 days
[03:38] <ScottK> nixternal: If you find a good spot to mention it, please fix the wiiki.
[03:38] <nixternal> I will do that
[03:45] <vorian> what is this warning?
[03:45] <vorian> W: kzenexplorer source: debhelper-script-needs-versioned-build-depends dh_icons (>= 5.0.51~)
[04:03] <ScottK> vorian: Make sure the pacakge build depends on debhelper (>= 5.0.51~)
[04:03] <ScottK> Pretty much what it says.
[04:05] <vorian> hmm
[04:05] <vorian> thanks ScottK :)
[04:06] <ScottK> vorian: If you don't know how to handle what lintiain is telling you, run it again with -i and it will give you more detail.
[04:07] <vorian> lemme see ....
[04:11] <vorian> excellent!
[04:32] <nixternal> and let the Intrepid development begin!!!!
[04:32]  * nixternal creates a new chroot and pbuilder
[04:32]  * nixternal forgot to enable -updates and -backports for Hardy
[04:33] <nixternal> derr
[04:33] <nixternal> ooh, only 4 merges with my name on um
[04:33] <nixternal> yeeehaw!
[04:35] <vorian> ^5
[04:37] <nixternal> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/intrepid/build/11964/. dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[04:37] <nixternal> wth
[05:00] <vorian> night
[05:01] <ScottK> dist-upgrade your hardy pbuilder
[05:02] <nixternal> derr
[05:02] <nixternal> that is what I forgot to do
[05:02] <nixternal> grab the new pbuilder
[05:03] <nixternal> hrmm
[05:03] <nixternal> nevermind that
[05:16] <nixternal> vorian: I just gone ahead and requested a sync for kvirc as our changes can be dropped for the time being
[05:17] <nixternal> that may change as I go through and do bug triage on kvirc...kvirc is a tricky beast
[05:17] <nixternal> also, have you touched any of my other packages? you might want to give the original uploaders a heads up as well that you are working on one of their packages, so we don't duplicate efforts
[05:18] <nixternal> oi, smb4k is going to be a super fun one
[05:24] <nixternal> heh, actually it was just another sync
[05:25] <nixternal> yay! only 1 merge baby
[06:43] <yuriy> mornfall: just e-mailed you a couple patches and a backtrace for a crash
[07:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: hehe, I was as surprised as you ;-)
[10:12] <Serega> hi there
[10:14] <jpatrick> hi Serega
[11:19] <vorian> nixternal: roger
[11:58] <Riddell> Hobbsee: please raise the build priority of kde4libs in backports
[11:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: got a URL on you?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> oh, found it
[11:59]  * Hobbsee waits for launchpad
[12:01] <Hobbsee> Riddell: done
[12:06] <Arby> Riddell: I merged kdeaccessability this morning if you get time to take a look
[12:06] <Arby> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaccessibility/+bug/226839
[12:11] <Riddell> thanks Arby , can't look until this evening though
[12:11] <Arby> no problem
[12:22] <Serega> hi Riddell how it's going with my patch?
[16:48] <nixternal> Riddell: can you get my dot password for me? I seem to have lost it
[16:49] <nixternal> Riddell: nevermind, now my password works
[16:49] <nixternal> hrmm
[16:59] <nixternal> Riddell: mind looking at the KDE Italia article on the dot for me, I have made some changes..thanks
[17:58] <nixternal> OK, after further discussion about backporting with pitti, I think anything else we do with Hardy needs to be done 100% properly and not whinged at all.
[17:58] <nixternal> I would like to go for core-dev, but having poorly done a backporting process, I think I will hold off so it doesn't come back to bite me during the membership process
[17:59] <ScottK> nixternal: For my big backporting excercise (clamav), I built tested in a PPA first and then pushed the backports.
[18:01] <nixternal> that was what I wanted to do initially
[18:01] <nixternal> I built and tested locally and then pushed to -backports
[18:01] <ScottK> Serves you right for listening to people like me who said don't bother.
[18:01] <nixternal> lol
[18:02] <nixternal> backporting the way we did was understandable, but not correct
[18:02] <nixternal> pitti understood that the reason for the direct backport was because we were planning on following the 4.1 branch with Intrepid
[18:04] <yuriy> so what is incorrect? that you backported a package that's not already in the dev release?
[18:08] <nixternal> well, that isn't so much incorrect, but that is the proper way
[18:08] <nixternal> the bug reports I filed were really for a paper trail, and were not done per "backporting rules and regulations"
[18:09] <nixternal> they really shouldn't have been backported, but more than likely SRU'd
[18:09] <nixternal> because of the bug fixes and what not
[18:09] <nixternal> backporting is really more about functionality than bug fixes
[18:12] <ScottK> If you'd uploaded to Intrepid and then backported, you'd have been fine.  I think your approach was reasonable given we don't really care about 4.0 in Intrepid.
[18:14] <nixternal> ya, pitti understood that
[18:47] <smarter> is desktop-effects-kde maintained in a bazaar branch?
[19:00] <smarter> Riddell: ^
[19:09] <Arby>  Riddell: kdeaddons merge to add to the list when you have time
[19:09] <Arby> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeaddons/+bug/227004
[20:41] <holaa> holaa
[21:28] <nixternal> how can I set how much my multimedia keys control volume? ie. isntead of increasing/decreasing volume by 10, I would like to do by 5
[21:29] <nixternal> gah, never mind
[21:30] <nixternal> ctrl+volup/voldown will do 1% steps
[21:48] <Arby> Noooo.
[21:49] <Arby> 2.5h testbuilding a package and it dies due to lack of space :(
[21:49] <nosrednaekim> :(
[21:49] <Arby> should have made a bigger VM
[21:53] <jpatrick> Arby: you build a kde* package?
[21:54] <Arby> I was trying to build koffice
[21:54] <Arby> and it appeared to be working
[21:54] <jpatrick> you _poor_ thing
[21:54]  * jpatrick points Arby at https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
[21:55]  * Arby points jpatrick at the rejected e-mail he got for not being an ubuntuero
[21:55] <jpatrick> Arby: so, sign the CoC and become one?
[21:55] <Arby> is ubuntero not the same as ubuntu member then?
[21:56] <jpatrick> no
[21:56] <jpatrick> Ubuntero = someone who has sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[21:56] <Arby> ahhh, I thought they were
[21:56] <Arby> where do I sign it?
[21:56] <jpatrick> what's your LP id?
[21:56] <Arby> rbirnie
[21:57] <jpatrick> Arby: https://launchpad.net/~rbirnie
[21:57] <Arby> yep that's me
[21:57] <jpatrick> Arby: check the left sidebar for "Code of Conduct" and follow the tips there
[21:57] <Arby> ok
[22:00] <jpatrick> after that PPA will be all yours
[22:02] <Arby> jpatrick: thanks, signed.
[22:03] <jpatrick> you're welcome
[22:11] <Riddell> ScottK: did you try debootstrap backport?  an intrepid chroot doesn't seem to include apt-get
[22:13] <Arby> jpatrick: ppa is rejecting with
[22:13] <Arby> Rejected:MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[22:14] <Arby> any idea what I've done wrong?
[22:14] <jpatrick> Arby: uploading the tarball?
[22:15] <Arby> I was following the quick start guide so I did:
[22:15] <Arby> dput my-ppa koffice_1.6.3-5ubuntu1_source.changes
[22:15] <Arby> as shown on the page you gave me
[22:16] <jpatrick> Arby: that's odd as your PPA doesn't appear to have anything
[22:17] <jpatrick> Arby: change the changelog entry's version to 1.6.3-5ubuntu1~ppa1 and 'debuild -S -sa -k$YOURKEY' it and reupload
[22:18] <Arby> trying now
[22:22] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  I'm using the backported debootstrap.
[22:22] <Riddell> ScottK: and you have an intrepid chroot with apt-get?
[22:23] <ScottK> Riddell: I dist-upgraded a Hardy chroot and it worked when I did it.  Let me try and update it and see if it works.
[22:23]  * apachelogger pokes jpatrick with http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=kgrubeditor
[22:23] <Riddell> that's not the same thing at all
[22:23] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.
[22:24] <ScottK> Riddell: I upgraded a hardy chroot to intrepid and I created a new hardy chroot.  Both worked last I checked.
[22:24] <ScottK> I'm updated my Sid chroot several times.
[22:25] <ScottK> So except for creating a Intrepid chroot, I think I'd done all the normal operations one might expect.
[22:26] <ScottK> Including I logged into the Hardy chroot and used apt-get from within the chroot.
[22:26] <jpatrick> apachelogger: GPL v2 is /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 on Debian
[22:27] <jpatrick> apachelogger: "Exec=gksu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kgrubeditor," ?
[22:28] <apachelogger> jpatrick: kgrubeditor is providing 2 desktop files, one for KDE and one for xfce/gnome
[22:28] <apachelogger> therefore gksu fullpath
[22:28] <jpatrick> OK
[22:29] <jpatrick> apachelogger: maybe kgrubeditor, conflicts and replaces: qgrubeditor instead of epoch?
[22:30] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I would need a dummy package in order to get a proper transition
[22:30] <apachelogger> and since qgrubeditor's version > kgrubeditor's the transition needs an epoch
[22:30] <apachelogger> besides, I always wanted to use an epoch ;-)
[22:32] <jpatrick> apachelogger: +1, however I cannot log into REVU right now (not on my computer)
[22:32] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I'll +1 for you ;-)
[22:33] <jpatrick> go ahead (you have logs for proof)
[22:33] <ScottK> Riddell: When I try to update it now, I get a Perl transition related problem.
[22:33] <awen_> ScottK: I have a fix for bug 207473 that didn't make it into hardy ... how should i go by getting it into hardy-updates?
[22:33] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I assume you've built it tho?
[22:33] <ScottK> Riddell: This one http://www.bebt.de/blog/debian/archives/2008/05/02/T07_25_25/index.html
[22:33] <apachelogger> jpatrick: nope
[22:33] <apachelogger> going to do that before uploading
[22:34]  * apachelogger is kinda busy with school these days
[22:34]  * jpatrick too
[22:35] <ScottK> awen_: First step is get the fix in Intrepid.
[22:35] <ScottK> awen_: Then we R!ddell if he thinks it's worth an SRU.
[22:36] <jpatrick> apachelogger: problem with epoch is that Debian may decide to package it and they don't have it..
[22:37] <apachelogger> then they would need to apply an epoch in order to be compatible with ubuntu I guess
[22:38] <Arby> jpatrick: still no luck
[22:38] <Arby> dput my-ppa koffice_1.6.3-5ubuntu1~ppa1_source.changes si still rejected
[22:38] <awen_> ScottK: okay ... i'll have a debdiff ready shortly
[22:38] <jpatrick> Arby: go to your LP PPA thing and see if you can delete your last upload
[22:38] <jpatrick> apachelogger: lovely
[22:39] <Arby> jpatrick: there's nothing there to delete, it's empty
[22:40] <jpatrick> Arby: weird
[22:40] <Arby> indeed
[22:40] <Arby> I'm pretty sure this is a pebkac but I don't know what I'm doing
[22:40] <jpatrick> Arby: try explaining the situation in #launchpad and maybe someone there knows what could be up
[22:40]  * apachelogger is wondering why two people have to block ppa with kernel builds at the very same time -.-
[22:41]  * jpatrick => bed
[22:41] <jpatrick> night everyone
[22:41] <apachelogger> nini jpatrick
[22:41] <apachelogger> Arby: what is the rejection reason?
[22:41] <jpatrick> nacht apachelogger
[22:42] <awen_> ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu17.debdiff ... if you have a spare moment some time
[22:42] <Arby> apachelogger: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive
[22:42] <apachelogger> uh
[22:42] <apachelogger> that sounds cool
[22:42] <ScottK> awen_: Just about to leave for now, so maybe later tonight or tomorrow.
[22:42] <Arby> or not
[22:42] <apachelogger> Arby: just raise the ppa version
[22:43] <apachelogger> ppa2
[22:43] <apachelogger> or 1.1
[22:43] <apachelogger> something like that
[22:43] <awen_> ScottK: just perfect, thanks
[22:43] <Arby> apachelogger: OK, I'll try. seems odd since there is no existing ppa version
[22:44] <apachelogger> Arby: well maybe your pipe broke earlier so ppa received a broken file
[22:50]  * SiNiESTrO is away: Ausente por ahora.
[22:51] <jpatrick> Arby: I suggest asking in #launchpad would be best
[22:51] <awen_> can anybody remember the alternative powermanager / guidance tools that was being talked about to be interesting to look at for intrepid?
[22:51] <Arby> I was about to
[22:51]  * jpatrick => really at bed
[22:52] <Riddell> Arby: what are you uploading to your ppa?
[22:52] <Arby> Riddell: I was trying to use it to testbuild packages
[22:53] <Arby> I tried to testbuild koffice earlier but it failed due to lack of space in an intrepid VM
[22:53] <Arby> ppa was suggested as an alternative
[22:54] <Riddell> awen_: powermanager, I've ported guidance one to kde 4, chap in kde-utils-devel is doing one that uses solid
[22:54] <Riddell> Arby: intrepid seems a bit broken at the moment, koffice didn't compile because cdbs wouldn't install, should be ok just to test with hardy
[22:54] <Arby> oh, OK
[22:55] <Arby> that would explain why pbuilder was also being unfriendly
[22:55] <awen_> Riddell: do we have a testbuild already? ... if not i was thinking about doing one
[22:57]  * awen_ wonders if the meeting saturday was dropped ... can't seem to find the logs
[22:58] <Riddell> awen_: of what?
[22:58] <Riddell> awen_: nobody turned up
[23:00] <awen_> Riddell: of whatever powermanager util we might be considering for intrepid ... i remember there was a talk about sticking with current g-p-m and porting it vs. some alternative application
[23:01] <Riddell> awen_: still is
[23:02] <Riddell> awen_: it's in bzr under launchpad.net/guidance
[23:04] <awen_> Riddell: ahh, cool ... do you remember what the alternative was also?
[23:05] <Riddell> awen_: nothing yet, but read up about thomas gillespie I think it is on kde-utils-devel
[23:10] <awen_> Riddell: found it ... looks cool
[23:12] <awen_> Riddell: if you need some help on specific areas in it ... or when the port is ready enough for a clean-up, i wouldn't mind looking through it
[23:19] <nosrednaekim> uhh oh... i'm grabbing a Suse liveCD for 4.1 :)
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> oh NM... too big <_<