[00:00] <dwidmann> FuzzyTheBear: come to think of it, I see something very similar albeit it was with Ubuntu 7.04
[00:00] <FuzzyTheBear> ?
[00:00] <FuzzyTheBear> url ?
[00:00] <mefisto__> _dennister: I suppose those packages aren't important to me. I haven't noticed
[00:01] <_dennister> ok, samba...amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-engines...to name a few
[00:01] <FuzzyTheBear> are you filing bug reports for all of those ?
[00:01] <mefisto__> mefisto__: they all work fine for me. maybe I have different repos enabled
[00:01] <monkeybritches> endoftheinternet: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:02] <ejupin> How can I restart KDM? Since a reboot I can no longer log into KDE
[00:02] <dwidmann> http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Installing-Debian-Dell-2950-ftopict284011.html FuzzyTheBear
[00:02] <FuzzyTheBear> dwidmann : thanks .. im looking ..
[00:02] <nohelphere> guess what? I fixed it!!
[00:02] <monkeybritches> Also try sudo dpkg-configure kdm
[00:02] <mefisto__> ejupin: see monkeybritches message ^^
[00:02] <_dennister> on one machine it names the wrong optical device as dvd (certified, verified bug) on another it keeps telling me I can't fish onto other servers or use samba to access the files...no folders exist...yet I can access those exact folders with "fish://server/path" and "smb://server/path"
[00:02] <monkeybritches> To reset it as default
[00:03] <ejupin> mefisto: that was the first thing I tried on my own.. said something about no KDM in system
[00:03] <_dennister> one of those 2 servers is on gutsy, other a little-bit-better-hardy
[00:04] <nohelphere> all I had to do was start Kicker and change a setting
[00:05] <_dennister> sorry to complain, but this is the worst experience with a k/ubuntu distro release I've ever had...and I lost a 300G hdd less than 2 years old...freezer trick got me my data tho :)
[00:05] <FuzzyTheBear> hold on a second .. the message in that post shows  ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist   ... but mine is a straight ALERT  does not exist .. like it dosent know where to look ..
[00:06] <_dennister> obviously that hdd isn't the distros fault...but u can see why i'm not a happy little girl
[00:06] <mefisto__> FuzzyTheBear: did you get the uuid right in the kernel line?
[00:06] <FuzzyTheBear> dwidmann .. that more or less confirms that my grub entry would not be right ?
[00:06] <FuzzyTheBear> i never had a uuid for that drive ..
[00:06] <FuzzyTheBear> in fact .. im trying to find how to determine the uuid for a drive
[00:07] <mefisto__> sudo vol_id /dev/sda1  (or whatever partition you have kubuntu installed on)
[00:09] <FuzzyTheBear> ID_FS_UUID=b7f39389-d992-47ac-95be-8a27b12d892c
[00:09] <FuzzyTheBear> so that part worked .. great
[00:09] <FuzzyTheBear> vol_id /dev/hdd1 in my case ..
[00:10] <x-X-x> is it a good idea to buy a laptop from america for the uk ??
[00:10] <FuzzyTheBear> if you dont care about the euro sign ..
[00:10] <x-X-x> huh?
[00:11] <FuzzyTheBear> the euro .. us laptops dont have that symbol on the keyboard ..
[00:11] <FuzzyTheBear> plus they're made for 60 herts 120 volt .. so .. again you check that
[00:11] <monkeybritches> It would only be a slight inconvenience.
[00:11] <FuzzyTheBear> might need a different adaptor
[00:12] <monkeybritches> Most notebook power adapters have built-in voltage switching so that *shouldn't* be a problem.
[00:12] <FuzzyTheBear> power cords plugs ?  :)
[00:12] <mefisto__> or the ₤ sign. It won't have that on the keyboard
[00:13] <monkeybritches> The brick that comes with it. :)
[00:13] <monkeybritches> ♪
[00:14] <mefisto__> oh, and the US govt will track your every move :P
[00:14] <monkeybritches> They do that already.
[00:14] <dwidmann> I woudln't be surprised ...
[00:15] <mefisto__> we're getting slightly off topic
[00:15] <monkeybritches> But the level of incompetence in government is comforting. :)
[00:15] <monkeybritches> They are probably not using Kubuntu.
[00:16] <dwidmann> monkeybritches: not really. Stupid has done a lot of damage in recent years
[00:17] <dwidmann> !offtopic
[00:19] <dreams_> ok i have created a new account and deleted the old account on my system now when i try to add a new user in user management it will not let me me have admin when i type my ppassword in HELP
[00:21] <dwidmann> dreams_: that's because your new acccount isn't a member of the right groups
[00:21] <dreams_> how do i fix?
[00:21] <dwidmann> dreams_: reboot into a recovery, and add yourself to the following groups: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[00:22] <dwidmann> dreams_: (it follows the following format for the command: addgroup username groupname .... one group at a time)
[00:22] <dreams_> i av to be in recovery?
[00:23] <dreams_> what a pain in the bum this just because i accidently deleted my desktop folder in my home directory would be so much easier to reinstall
[00:23] <dwidmann> dreams_: Yes..
[00:23] <stoffer> in reference to KDE's font settings, what is "anti-aliasing"?  and what will forcing a higher dpi do?
[00:23] <dwidmann> dreams_: reinstalling would take a lot longer.
[00:24] <dreams_> yeah if you knew what you were doing lol
[00:24] <mefisto__> dreams_: think of it as a learning experience
[00:24] <FuzzyTheBear> mefisto__ : got the UUIS in the line now .. im going to try again .. thank you gentlemen for your help .. trying to boot kubuntu now ..
[00:24] <FuzzyTheBear> thanks
[00:24] <dwidmann> stoffer: it blurs the edges of your fonts to make them look smoother.
[00:24] <dreams_> lol
[00:25] <stoffer> dwidmann, and forcing the font?  KWD crashed when I set it to 120
[00:25] <monkeybritches> Forcing a higher DPI only increases the font size
[00:25] <stoffer> dwidmann, I mean the dpi
[00:25] <stoffer> oh
[00:25] <stoffer> ok cool, thanks!
[00:25] <dwidmann> stoffer: sounds like a bug that needs reported
[00:25] <monkeybritches> Better to keep it at 96 unless you're visually impaired.
[00:25] <mefisto__> and forcing a higher dpi will make most fonts look more awful, might make some awful fonts look less awful
[00:25] <Frederick> folks I got some powe falirues and now kdm wont star what can have been messed up?
[00:26] <dreams_> well i am glad i have you to help mefisto
[00:26] <dreams_> one more thing shall i use the shell or user management gui?
[00:26] <monkeybritches> Freferick: What error messages is it giving you?
[00:26] <monkeybritches> Frederick, sorry :)
[00:27] <monkeybritches> dreams_: Use the GUI if it makes it easier for now, the shell if you want to be a Grandmaster someday.
[00:27] <dreams_> shell then :) be back soon
[00:28] <mefisto__> Frederick: so kubuntu boots, then the login screen doesn't show?
[00:31] <JuJuBee> Frostwire is telling me that java is not installed, but it is.  What should I do?
[00:32] <Frederick> mefisto__: yes
[00:32] <Frederick> oki I can startx manually Im re-running the envy scripts
[00:33] <Frederick> brb
[00:33] <navetz> hey has anyone here got dualscreen working with a intel i810 ?
[00:36] <stoffer> firefox won't let me install any addons.  It says to look in the Error Console log for details.  Any ideas to where it is?
[00:37] <monkeybritches> It's under 'Tools'
[00:38] <stoffer> Error: installLocation has no properties - Source File: file:///usr/lib/firefox/components/nsExtensionManager.js - Line: 7647
[00:38] <stoffer> ???
[00:39] <mefisto__> stoffer: try reinstalling firefox
[00:40] <richard__> having a problem finding my printer on my home network
[00:41] <ere4si> !cups
[00:41] <navetz> !dualscreen
[00:42] <dwidmann> !dualhead
[00:42] <stoffer> mefisto__, didn't help
[00:43] <mefisto__> same error?
[00:44] <stoffer> mefisto__, yes
[00:46] <mefisto__> line 7647 in that file reads:   var installLocation = this._em.getInstallLocation(id);        don't know what it means, but it might be worth looking at yours at that line number
[00:46] <shareefas> hi all
[00:47] <monkeybritches> Hi
[00:47] <stoffer> mefisto__, the bug report online says that removing my profile directory will fix the problem.  Isn't there stuff in there that I need?
[00:49] <mefisto__> stoffer: you'll lose your firefox setup, extensions, bookmarks, themes, etc. you can back up your bookmarks (bookmarks.html) and make a list of the extensions you want, then delete the profile and start again.
[00:50] <mefisto__> just put bookmarks.html back where it was after FF has created a new profile dir
[00:51] <stoffer> in that case I already have my bookmarks backed up, but after removing the profile folder (just cut it and put it somewhere else) firefox won't start
[00:51] <stoffer> keeps saying I have to kill other firefox processes, of which there are 0 running
[00:51] <stoffer> my profile directory name was rp4yocat.default, that sounds right, right?
[00:52] <stoffer> just removed profiles.ini too and now it starts
[00:52] <stoffer> gonna try an addon
[00:53] <mefisto__> you reinstalled FF, and have a new profile, should work like new
[00:53] <stoffer> ok, now it works
[00:53] <stoffer> cool
[00:53] <stoffer> thanks
[00:53] <stoffer> weird that it had that bug with the default profile
[00:54] <mefisto__> stoffer: was it FF3 or FF2?
[00:54] <stoffer> 2
[00:54] <stoffer> I've used 2 before and I never had the issue
[00:54] <stoffer> I just did a clean install of Hardy a few days ago
[00:55] <stoffer> kde 3.5
[00:56] <navetz> hey has anyone here got dualscreen working with a intel i810 ?
[00:57] <ere4si> navetz: looked into xinerama?
[00:58] <richard__> My printer is an the home network running XP, I still can't see it
[00:58] <richard__> i can see the network but not the shared printer
[00:59] <richard__> i was able to share files
[00:59] <ere4si> richard__: did you check out this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows ?
[01:02] <navetz> ere4si: yea I tried to get it working, but I just get 2 blank screens
[01:02]  * ahmed is listening to Amarok 1.4 Welcome by Matthias Ettrich [Amarok]
[01:02] <navetz> ere4si: I was hoping I could find someone who got it working and look at their xorg
[01:02] <ahmed> Sysinfo for 'AHMED': Linux 2.6.24-16-generic running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUT5250@1.50GHz at 1000 MHz (2992 bogomips), , RAM: 795/2025MB, 140 proc's, 44.24min up
[01:02] <richard__> i am new to ubuntu, how do i connect to system>Administration>Printing
[01:02] <ere4si> navetz: sorry - I don't use it
[01:03] <ere4si> richard__: that is in your menu
[01:03] <richard__> when i click on system, there is no heading called administration!
[01:04] <Jucato> ere4si, richard__: that's in the GNOME/Ubuntu menu
[01:04] <ere4si> of course doh
[01:04] <ere4si> kcontrol?
[01:10] <hellhound> is there a program that can be used with kde4 to create themes?
[01:11] <cathoderaytube> how do i defrag?
[01:13] <dwidmann> cathoderaytube: you don't
[01:29] <Frederick> can I use a pendrive as swap in kubuntu?
[01:31] <p_quarles> Frederick, why would you want to do that?
[01:31] <p_quarles> (it's easy, but kind of pointless in most cases)
[01:44] <the__doctor__> I did something to the KDE panel & now I can't access minized apps...how do I get them to appear on the panel again?
[01:47] <p_quarles> the__doctor__, right-click on kicker (the panel), select "add applet," and choose "task manager" (iirc)
[01:50] <the__doctor__> p_quarles: Thanks :)
[01:52] <bulgdog> hola
[01:53] <bulgdog> soy nuevo con el ubuntu
[01:53] <bulgdog> me aconsejan
[01:53] <p_quarles> !es | bulgdog
[01:53] <bulgdog> if
[01:53] <bulgdog> I say
[01:56] <bulgdog> hello
[02:08] <will00> what would be the best way to restrict the websites people can access?
[02:14] <hellhound> does anyone know if kubuntu already has webcore fonts and freetype with BCI installed?
[02:21] <KevInAlaska> Quick Question here... I hope!  Is there any strong reason NOT to install Kubuntu with KDE 4 remix or install with KDE 3?
[02:26] <dek> I accidentally Ctrl+Alt+Esc and then click over my KDE bar, what process do I launch to bring it back?
[02:27] <coreymon77> KevInAlaska: 3.5.9 is more stable
[02:27] <KevInAlaska> I remember doing that and I just did ctrl alt backspace and it came back
[02:27] <coreymon77> dek: kicker
[02:28] <KevInAlaska> thank you :)
[02:28] <dek> coreymon77: thanks, I didn't know that was the name :)
[02:28] <coreymon77> thats what we are here for
[02:28] <donald_duck> when are we gonna get updates???
[02:28] <coreymon77> quack!
[02:29] <hellhound> does anyone know if kubuntu already has webcore fonts and freetype with BCI installed?
[02:30] <KevInAlaska> hellhound.. can you give me an easier question like "which key is the letter comes after A B C ... ? ... :)
[02:31] <KevInAlaska> er.. not key letter.. goes to show I never had my nap today like I wanted and needed
[02:31] <KevInAlaska> oh well (sigh)
[02:31] <hellhound> ahhh found the answer.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:33] <KevInAlaska> going to read the link you sent though. :) so thanks for the bit of knowledge.
[02:33] <donald_duck> is kde4 stable now/
[02:33] <KevInAlaska> not AS stable... how much less I don't know.
[02:34] <BonesolTeraDyne> donald_duck: It's marked stable, but I have yet to see any proof to that claim
[02:34] <KevInAlaska> I guess define stable..
[02:34] <donald_duck> stable like kde 3.5.x
[02:35] <KevInAlaska> probably not.. was KDE in the 3.1 area ever considered stable?
[02:36] <donald_duck> idk was it?
[02:37] <dthacker> donald_duck: my short answer is no.  4.1 will be better than 4.0 was, but there are bound to be bugs and gaps in functionality.
[02:38] <dthacker> read the reviews
[02:38] <adrock358> what's the best bit torrent client?
[02:38] <dthacker> !best
[02:39] <adrock358> gee, thank you for that automated enlightenment.
[02:39] <KevInAlaska> heh
[02:39] <dthacker> np :)
[02:39] <donald_duck> i like ktorrent as it writes out zeros for the file to prevent fragmentatio n
[02:39] <adrock358> cool.  thanks man.
[02:39] <adrock358> deluge keeps crashing.
[02:40] <KevInAlaska> interesting feature
[02:40] <BonesolTeraDyne> adrock358: I also reccomend KTorrent.
[02:40] <adrock358> i would install ktorrent now, but I'm installing updates for my newly installed Hardy.
[02:40] <adrock358> Thank you.
[02:41] <donald_duck> but you have to set the option to make it write out zeros though
[02:41] <adrock358> Thank you guy  Have a great night.  Donald_duck.  Oh, ok.  Thanks man.
[02:42] <donald_duck> if i want to try kde4 should i install the core package first?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> hmm - is there a kde4-desktop meta package ?
[02:43] <donald_duck> there is a core package
[02:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> Dr_willis: "kubuntu-kde4-desktop", I believe
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:45] <donald_duck> wow i only have 7% free space left and i only have 647 non-contiguous inodes
[02:46] <KevInAlaska> so if I have KDE3 and I want to have KDE4 I can install both and choose which to run?
[02:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> KevInAlaska: Yes
[02:47] <donald_duck> can kde 4 apps be run in kde3?
[02:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> donald_duck: Yes
[02:49] <Pollywog> why does the symlink to /dev/cdrom keep disappearing after reboots in Hardy?
[02:49] <Pollywog> I need the link
[02:49] <KevInAlaska> so then, because I have 'user account' setup, all of these files share the same Desktop under both KDE versions?
[02:49] <Pollywog> for grip and amarok
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Pollywog,  set grip and amrok to use the actual /dev/entry ?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Ive not noticed the link vanishing however. I will keep an eye on it.
[02:56] <Pollywog> Dr_willis: I discovered the problem with grip is that some audio CD's are using a funky format
[02:57] <Pollywog> and as for Amarok, I don't know how to get it to read /dev/cdrom1
[02:57] <Pollywog> the configs don't seem to have a place to change that
[02:57] <Dr_willis> funky format audio cd? Hmm.. that seems.. odd...
[02:57] <Pollywog> yes
[02:57] <Dr_willis> makes one wonder how a cd player can play them then.
[02:57] <Pollywog> it reads one of the cd's and not the other
[02:59] <Pollywog> is there something other than grip for ripping?
[03:00] <Pollywog> Okay I found the place to fix Amarok
[03:00] <Pollywog> :)
[03:02] <Dr_willis> This is linux - thers always 12+ ways to do the same thing. :)
[03:02] <Pollywog> okay I am trying out this sound juicer
[03:02] <Dr_willis> I do like Grip.
[03:02] <KevInAlaska> Dr_willis CD players can be just blind to other partitions and formats they do not use... so they are almost invisible to the cd players
[03:02] <Pollywog> seems to see the disk fine
[03:02] <Pollywog> Dr_willis: ty
[03:02] <D_Eagle> !lock
[03:03] <Dr_willis> KevInAlaska,  the old 'put a cruupted data track at the start of the disk ploy' eh?
[03:03] <D_Eagle> !lock
[03:03] <Pollywog> the CD that grip is not seeing is 12 yrs old
[03:03] <D_Eagle> !adept
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Pollywog,  i would check for dirty disks. :)
[03:03] <Pollywog> clean :)
[03:03] <D_Eagle> !reconfigure
[03:04] <Pollywog> I should clean it anyway
[03:04] <Pollywog> even though it looks clean
[03:04] <Dr_willis> use dd to dd it to a image file.. then try ripping from the image file perhaps.
[03:05] <D_Eagle> !apt
[03:05] <Pollywog> oh, apparently juicer does not make mp3 files
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Work time for me. Bye all
[03:05] <Pollywog> Dr_willis: bye and thanks
[03:05] <Dr_willis> Pollywog,  it proverly has a setting. :)
[03:06] <dwidmann> I say try K3b with paranoia level 3 if possible.
[03:06] <Pollywog> k
[03:06] <KevInAlaska> Dr_willis, I am no expert but for a time (about 8 years or so ago) I did some detailed learning on CD contruction (most of it lost) but one thing I remember now is that there were just over 40 different formats in a CD creation and to put it short... it gets VERY confussing
[03:06] <D_Eagle> "Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?".... what to do ??
[03:07] <KevInAlaska> 40 different types of formats a CD 'could be' formated as or a combination of formats.  besides there are newer types now I am sure.
[03:07] <nonewmsgs> my frostwire isnt workinghttp://pastebin.com/m29fe78fb
[03:08] <D_Eagle> !adept
[03:08] <nonewmsgs> d_eagle was that for me???
[03:09] <D_Eagle> how to set proxy in aptitude ?
[03:10] <D_Eagle> anyone who can help :D
[03:14] <D_Eagle> "Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?".... what to do ??
[03:14] <D_Eagle> !lock
[03:14] <D_Eagle> !sudo
[03:15] <D_Eagle> !lock directory
[03:15] <ere4si> D_Eagle: use sudo before the command
[03:15] <D_Eagle> i did
[03:15] <Pollywog> D_Eagle: are you using sudo to start aptitude?
[03:15] <D_Eagle> yeah
[03:15] <ere4si> !proxy
[03:15] <D_Eagle> sudo aptitude install ....
[03:15] <D_Eagle> i did  it
[03:16] <D_Eagle> may be some problem with lock file
[03:16] <D_Eagle> there is a command to fix it, but i forgot that
[03:16] <D_Eagle> our ubottu can tell that, but i forgot that command too :D
[03:16] <Pollywog> you sure you don't already have an aptitude process active?
[03:16] <D_Eagle> yes i m quite sure
[03:17] <Pollywog> k
[03:17] <ere4si> D_Eagle: try this - http://havratips.blogspot.com/2007/06/make-wget-apt-get-and-aptitude-use.html
[03:17] <D_Eagle> it is a fresh install
[03:20] <D_Eagle> ElectricKetchup: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[03:20] <D_Eagle> E : Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)E : Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[03:20] <ere4si> !aptfix
[03:20] <D_Eagle> oh thanx
[03:20] <D_Eagle> :D
[03:20] <ere4si> D_Eagle: ^^
[03:20] <ere4si> np
[03:23] <D_Eagle> ere4si , so i put that environment, will it also work for adept manager?
[03:23] <D_Eagle> i mean the proxy
[03:24] <ere4si> D_Eagle: from the site I linked you?
[03:24] <D_Eagle> yeah, but it did not say that it will work for adept package manager too
[03:25] <travioso> has anyone installed ieee80211 in hardy?
[03:25] <ere4si> D_Eagle: I don't know - it only mentions command line apps but adept is just a front end for apt so I suppose...
[03:26] <D_Eagle> ok, thnx again :D
[03:26] <ere4si> np
[03:36] <nonewmsgs> frostwire isn't working http://pastebin.com/m29fe78fb
[03:38] <dwidmann> Is there a tool available for formatting a partition as udf, I'm looking but not seeing.
[03:39] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: can you browse to this file - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/motif21/libmawt.so
[03:39] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: to see if it is there?
[03:41] <ere4si> dwidmann: from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDF - Universal Disk Format, an operating-system-independent file system commonly used on DVD and other digital media
[03:42] <dwidmann> ere4si: I think I found what I need already ... mkudffs ... took me a while, I must be slow today.
[03:42] <ere4si> k
[03:42] <nonewmsgs> ere4si:  i do not see a motif21 directory
[03:43] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: that's why java can't load frostwire or the other way 'round
[03:44] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: using suns' java?
[03:44] <nonewmsgs> ere4si: yeah
[03:44] <nonewmsgs> the latest version in the repos
[03:45] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: might have to purge and reinstall frostwire
[03:45] <nonewmsgs> ere4si: i just installed it.  what was weird was frostwire is no longer in the repos
[03:46] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: where did you install from?
[03:46] <nonewmsgs> frostwire.com
[03:46] <ere4si> !info frostwire
[03:47] <BluesKaj> good , it's a POS
[03:47] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: there are other p2p progs
[03:47] <zhopoyeb> how's kde4-desktop?
[03:47] <nonewmsgs> anything good?
[03:47] <ere4si> !kde4
[03:47] <BluesKaj> for the birds
[03:47] <ere4si> !p2p
[03:48] <ere4si> nonewmsgs: ^^
[03:50] <shamu> can anyone install kmag from kubuntu-dapper?
[03:50] <shamu> I think it's a zero-length file but I can't be sure
[03:53] <bobi_bogor> hallo
[03:54] <ere4si> hi
[03:54] <bobi_bogor> can anyone tell me how to install java?
[03:54] <ere4si> !java
[03:54] <bobi_bogor> thanks
[03:54] <bobi_bogor> i have another problem
[03:55] <bobi_bogor> im using acer laptop that use suyin as the webcam
[03:55] <bobi_bogor> how to install the driver for my cam?
[03:55] <ere4si> !webcam
[03:55] <shamu> if a file is corrupted on kubuntu dapper, who do I mail?
[03:55] <bobi_bogor> ok
[03:56] <bobi_bogor> thanks again
[03:56] <shamu> guess there's no 'kubuntu-help' channel
[03:57] <ere4si> shamu: how do you know it is corrupt?
[03:57] <shamu> anyone running kubuntu dapper drake who can confirm/deny this for me?
[03:57] <shamu> I tried aptitude installing it and it shows up as empty
[03:57] <BonesolTeraDyne> shamu: file a bug on http://www.launchpad.net if you feel it's neccessary
[03:58] <shamu> ok
[03:58] <shamu> I can log an ubuntu bug under kubuntu ?
[03:58] <gianfranco> hola!
[03:58] <shamu> I can log a kubuntu bug under the 'ubuntu' project?
[03:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> shamu: yes, but you have to make sure you point out the correct package.
[03:59] <shamu> ah; it's a http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper package, not  a plain old dapper package
[04:25] <zhopoyeb> i installed  kubuntu-kde4-desktop alittle while ago, and i tired to apt-get remove it but its still on my system how do i remove it completely?
[04:26] <DreadKnight> movie time
[04:26] <Tidus> zhopoyeb: re-install it thru aptitude (sudo aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop) then remove it
[04:26] <Tidus> thru aptitude
[04:26] <zhopoyeb> ok
[04:26] <Tidus> aptitude tracks the dependencies of what you install and if you remove it, it'll remove anything that it installed but is no longer required because nothing depends on it
[04:27] <DreadKnight> test
[04:27] <Feijo_BR> positive, the son is yours
[04:27] <alucardromero> Anybody know how to make WICD connect on boot?  For some reason it's not doing it on 8.04.
[04:28] <Tidus> and i have a question.  is there any scriptable way to quickly toggle desktop compositing under kde4? I play some opengl games and when compositing is enabled the game gets about 5 frames/second
[04:28] <alucardromero> Whoa.
[04:29] <Tidus> i have the same performance issue under windows vista when aero is enabled, but there is an option in the launcher properties that can disable aero when that program starts
[04:30] <Tidus> i know that doesn't exist in kde4 (yet) but i'd be willing to have a shortcut on the desktop that i can click on to quickly turn it on / off instead of having to slog thru systemsettings
[04:31] <ere4si> Tidus: someone in #kubuntu-kde4 might know
[04:32] <bleaked> Tidus: search kde-apps.org.. there is actually a plasmoid in the shape of a lightswitch which does just that..
[04:32] <Tidus> hm... thanks bleaked
[04:34] <nonewmsgs> i can mount and unmount my ipod but how do i set it to safetly remove "eject"?
[04:35] <Feijo_BR> right click?
[04:36] <nonewmsgs> in media it acts like a 60gb hard drive.  i can do it with rhythmbox but in the media window it no longer allows safetly removing (which was there in gutsy)
[04:38] <ere4si> !ipod
[04:39] <Tidus> bleaked: that actually works wonders :) :) thank you :)
[04:40] <bleaked> Tidus: yea no problem.. just noticed it the other day.. glad i took note.. :D
[04:41] <_dennister> hey folks...got a faulty installation of gutxy here...did everything but the kernel...how in the heck can I recover from this problem while in livecd mode here?
[04:42] <_dennister> I've already mounted the hard drive partitions here, and took a stab at simply copying kernels into /boot, then manually editing grub's menu.lst, but haven't been too successful
[04:42] <spine55> ls
[04:43] <_dennister> anyone? have any idea?
[04:45] <hellhound> does anyone know where I can download the new firefox 3 theme?  I would like to edit it, but keep some of the OS interegration stuff
[04:49] <hellhound> when i change the font colors in kde4 it does not seem to change in all places.  for example d3lphin's left bookmark text is left the same for unselected and in several applications the txt on buttons is not changed either... does anyone know how to make sure that these are all the same?
[04:52] <Tidus> hellhound: that's because d3lphin is qt3 (and kde3)
[04:52] <Tidus> if you're on kde4 you should be using dolphin/kde4
[04:52] <monkeybritches> hellhound: http://spuler.us
[04:54] <dwidmann> I can't seem to get it to let me create a filesystem on my DVD-RAM disk :(
[04:54]  * dwidmann kicks linux
[04:55] <jMerliN> are there any guides on ubgrading from KDE 3 to KDE 4?
[04:55] <ere4si> !kde4
[04:56] <dwidmann> jMerliN: they can be install concurrently
[04:56] <dwidmann> *ed
[04:57] <jMerliN> dwidmann: which packages then would be recommended?
[04:57] <dwidmann> jMerliN: kubuntu-kde4-desktop for starters
[04:58] <dwidmann> jMerliN: then just search the packages by name for "kde4" and you'll see a lot of others that you might be interested in
[04:58] <dwidmann> jMerliN: I'd personally also recommend yakuake-kde4, kdegames-kde4, kget-kde4, and koffice-kde4
[04:58] <firecrotch> Alright, I know that I know how to do this because I've done it before, but I forget how so.... how do I install packages that are held back?
[04:59] <jMerliN> ty :)
[04:59] <hellhound> Tidus: what is the command for dolphin versus d3lphin?
[04:59] <dwidmann> firecrotch: I would just try to apt-get install the packages that were held back - maybe an apt-get dist-upgrade wouldn't hurt either.
[05:00] <dwidmann> hellhound: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin
[05:00] <nimrod> hello
[05:00] <dwidmann> hi
[05:00] <nimrod> :)
[05:01] <nimrod> i'm new on linux
[05:01] <firecrotch> dwidmann:  Thanks, dist-upgrade works :)
[05:02] <dwidmann> firecrotch: awesome
[05:02] <hellhound> dwidmann: I got no such file or directory
[05:02] <dwidmann> hellhound: then you might need to install it first if you don't already have dolphin installed
[05:03] <firecrotch> Hello, nimrod! Welcome to #kubuntu
[05:03] <nimrod> somebody who can tell me how to compile a sourcecode in python...i cant seem to find information on google, just talk around
[05:03] <nimrod> thanks, firecrotch
[05:04] <dwidmann> nimdrod: python code isn't compiled, it's interpreted (well, it's a bit of both really, but short story, you don't have to compile it like you would a C program)
[05:04] <hellhound> dwidmann: i have dolphin 0.9.2... the actual command for it is d3lphin though... I do not think there is a differance because dolphin (d3lphin) is within my kde4 menu
[05:05] <nimrod> i see, dwidmann
[05:05] <Tidus> hellhound, no, d3lphin != dolphin
[05:05] <Hydrogen> d3lphin = dolphin for kde3
[05:05] <Hydrogen> oddly enough
[05:05] <dwidmann> hellhound: dolphin = v 1.0.2
[05:05] <Tidus> dolphin 1.0.2 here
[05:05] <nimrod> so, how can i make a executable file of the sourcecode?
[05:06] <Tidus> and the command to start it is actually 'dolphin'
[05:06] <dwidmann> hellhound: sudo apt-get install dolphin-kde4
[05:06] <Tidus> hellhound: what version of kubuntu are you on? 7.10 or 8.04?
[05:06] <dwidmann> nimrod: it's already executable, just like a bash script, just run it like "python /path/to/file"
[05:06] <jMerliN> what's the command for the install-time partition manager?  i forget -.-
[05:07] <dwidmann> jMerliN: you're probalby referring to qtparted
[05:07] <nimrod> ah
[05:07] <hellhound> Tidus: 8.04... ok I see now... so should I just uninstall the other d3lphin. and only have kde4's or do I need them both?
[05:08] <nimrod> i would try it then
[05:08] <nimrod> brb
[05:08] <dwidmann> hellhound: dolphin >>>>> d3lphin .... no reason not to use it all the time :)
[05:10] <Tidus> hellhound: uninstall d3lphin
[05:10] <Tidus> you wont need both
[05:11] <Tidus> in my opinion it was a waste of coding time to backport dolphin to kde3
[05:11] <hellhound> dwidmann: Tidus: I see in adept installer (add remove programs) that KDE4 was not installed.. can i safely install this now?
[05:11] <Tidus> hellhound: install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[05:11] <TeslaTony> Does anyone know how Ubuntu reacts to customized versions of programs that differ from what's in the repositories?
[05:12] <hellhound> Tidus: ah thank you.... will this also fix the font colors inthe default firefox theme?
[05:13] <ere4si> TeslaTony: you might have dependency probs
[05:13] <nimrod> why doesn't python want to start :/
[05:13] <Tidus> hellhound: it should... not sure though
[05:13] <dwidmann> nimrod: what does it say?
[05:13] <Tidus> i just use konqueror as my browser
[05:14] <nimrod> it doesn't say anything, it just show hour-glass, and then it disapare
[05:15] <dwidmann> nimrod: pull up konsole, and run the command from there
[05:15] <Hydrogen> nimrod: how are you trying to start it...
[05:15] <nimrod> ok, would tyr that, dwidmann
[05:15] <TeslaTony> ere4si: I'm mostly worried about issues when a new version comes out. I don't want to get the program accidentally overwritten
[05:15] <hellhound> Tidus: when i change the font colors in kde4 it does not seem to change in all places.  for example d3lphin's left bookmark text is left the same for unselected and in several applications the txt on buttons is not changed either... does anyone know how to make sure that these are all the same?
[05:16] <nimrod> hydrogen: i only click the icon
[05:16] <hellhound> Tidus:  opps  i meant..
[05:16] <hellhound> install: missing destination file operand after `kubuntu-kde4-desktop'
[05:16] <hellhound> Try `install --help' for more information.
[05:16] <ere4si> TeslaTony: put the file in your home folder and a link in /usr/bin then
[05:17] <Tidus> hellhound: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[05:17] <nimrod> how do i start a program in the Konsoll?
[05:17] <dwidmann> nimrod: just type "python /path/to/the/program" and press enter (replacing /path/to/the/program with the actual path)
[05:18] <nimrod> ah
[05:18] <nimrod> thanks
[05:18] <jMerliN> ooo kde4 is pretty
[05:18] <TeslaTony> ere4si: I'll give that a shot. Thanks
[05:18] <ere4si> k
[05:19] <hellhound> Tidus: thank you that is working
[05:20] <jMerliN> kde4 reminds me of vista, anyone else? o.O
[05:20] <nimrod> "Please switch to the wx package as soon as possible" it says
[05:20] <dwidmann> jMerliN: maybe it'd have reminded me if I'd have ever used it ...
[05:21] <nimrod> when i try to open pype in the konsoll
[05:21] <jMerliN> lol
[05:21] <dwidmann> IMO the artwork has stepped up a notch. That's probably a lot of what you're seeing jMerliN
[05:22] <jMerliN> function > form for me
[05:22] <Hydrogen> jMerliN: I'm not all that impressed with the default look
[05:22] <Hydrogen> I love the transparent plasma themes though :)
[05:22] <dwidmann> jMerliN: but both can be nice ... especially seeing as the people who do the artwork are generally not the people who do the code anyway.
[05:22] <ISS_student> I tried KDE4 and hated it, so I went back to 3.5.9
[05:22] <jMerliN> i'll run both
[05:23] <jMerliN> i'm repartitioning atm, I need more space for my linux partition lol
[05:23] <nimrod> i would try to restart the pc
[05:23] <nimrod> brb
[05:23] <ISS_student> I had to switch to the 64 bit version so I could get full access to my 4 gig of memory lol
[05:24] <dwidmann> ISS_student: I think that'll be happening a lot more over the course of the next couple of years.
[05:24] <Hydrogen> 32bit can access 4g of mem..
[05:25] <ISS_student> When I did a free in 32 bit it only showed 3 gig
[05:25] <TeslaTony> Hydrogen: Sometimes a 32 bit OS will only show 3-3.5 gigs
[05:25] <dwidmann> Hydrogen: doesn't that = memory remapping = performance hit?? I haven't done much reading on it, but I do recall seeing something along those lines
[05:25] <Hydrogen> No, 32bit can access 4g, anything > 4g it can't
[05:25] <Hydrogen> afaik
[05:26] <ere4si> I thought the limit was 3.2G
[05:26] <dwidmann> I forget how much 64-bit can access, but it's *A LOT*
[05:26] <ISS_student> I figured as long as the 64 bit version runs ok I'll ujse it
[05:26] <TeslaTony> Hydrogen: Hypothetically true, yes, but not the case in reality. Something to do with how memory controllers are made or something
[05:26] <jMerliN> dwidmann: 16 petabytes
[05:27] <TeslaTony> Exabytes
[05:27] <dwidmann> yeah, I thought it was up in the exabytes ... at any rate, yeah, a lot.
[05:27] <jMerliN> petabytes > exabytes -.-
[05:27] <TeslaTony> Either way, an amount of ram we are unlikely to see for some decades
[05:28] <dwidmann> TeslaTony: unlikely but not impossible
[05:28] <ISS_student> I remember the comodore 64 lol now I have 4 gig in a laptop
[05:28] <jMerliN> TeslaTony: log_2(32) * ~2 = 10, roughly 10 years from now we'll be using that much memory in our desktops
[05:28] <jMerliN> (at least if the trend holds)
[05:29] <dwidmann> I wonder about hard drives though, they seem to be approaching their limits ... I wonder what will replace them in the future.
[05:29] <TeslaTony> Wow...really? I knew processing power was going up like crazy, but I didn't think Moore's Law held for RAM
[05:29] <jMerliN> dwidmann: holographic storage
[05:30] <dwidmann> jMerliN: oh?
[05:30] <TeslaTony> Holographic of flash...flash in the near term
[05:30] <jMerliN> holographic has the theoretical capability of storing hundreds of terabytes in the size of a single harddisk (as we know now) and having terabytes/s bandwidth speeds, with almost 0 seek time
[05:30] <jMerliN> but it's expensive as hell to manufacture atm :P
[05:31] <dwidmann> jMerliN: buy me one ... lol
[05:31] <TeslaTony> Not to mention impossible to manufacture with more than a few kilobytes right now, too (it may be megabytes now...)
[05:31] <ubuntu> i need help
[05:31] <ISS_student> Price will drop just like memory has. I got 4 gig of 5300 DDR 2 for 75 bucks
[05:31] <TeslaTony> ubuntu: You're in the right place. Ask away
[05:32] <jMerliN> so, is the 32bit vs 64bit argument valid in linux as it is windows?
[05:32] <ISS_student> Yes
[05:32] <dwidmann> ISS_student: much cheaper than I got off with ... cost me $300 for 4 gig of DDR3
[05:32] <ubuntu> install lilo  in ubuntu hardy, no have dvd hardy, waht comand
[05:32] <ubuntu> ?
[05:32] <jMerliN> i just got 4gigs of ram in my laptop lol
[05:32] <jMerliN> was cheap
[05:32] <dwidmann> jMerliN: me too :) ... cheap indeed, I think it was $85ish
[05:33] <ISS_student> JMelin so did I and that's why I switched to 64 bit Kubuntu
[05:33] <ubuntu> i play dvd kubuntu live cd, i need comand install lilo in hardy, no have dvd live
[05:33] <jMerliN> well i *WOULD* switch to 64bit linux
[05:33] <jMerliN> but
[05:33] <ubuntu> i write aptitude install lilo, but need dvd live
[05:33] <jMerliN> there is only one thing stopping me: drivers
[05:33] <jMerliN> i have to use ndiswrapper for my wireless (go broadcom!)
[05:33] <dwidmann> jMerliN: for?
[05:34] <TeslaTony> ubuntu: Two questions: Did you already install Kubuntu, or are you still on the livecd? Secondly, what's your native language?
[05:34] <jMerliN> and the windows installation I have is 32bit, so I can't pull the drivers off of it for ndiswrapper like I'm doing for the 32bit ones
[05:34] <dwidmann> jMerliN: poor you .... I've got intel 3945 .... works flawlessly out of the box :)
[05:34] <jMerliN> unless I use wine to unpackage the installer from dell
[05:34] <ubuntu> kubuntu is live cd
[05:34] <ubuntu> mi native linguage is portuguese
[05:35] <jMerliN> dwidmann: i do believe I have the dell 1385 aka broadcom 4385
[05:35] <ubuntu> i mount hardy drive, but no have comand install lilo, i no have cd live ubuntu hardy
[05:35] <jMerliN> ndiswrapper made very short work of making the drivers work, but I tried to use native methods for a while with no luck
[05:36] <ubuntu> mi system in hd is hardy
[05:36] <ISS_student> I've got a Intel wireless and works great with Kubuntu. I think the Linux community has done a much better job with 64 bit than Windows has
[05:37] <jMerliN> well of course
[05:37] <ubuntu> what execute terminal for gmount iso function
[05:37] <jMerliN> but drivers are the only things holding me back from 64bit :z
[05:37] <TeslaTony> ubuntu: The grub bootloader should be automatically installed for dual booting, but if you want lilo it should be "sudo apt-get install lilo"
[05:37] <jMerliN> i'd actually like to learn x64 instruction set, I still use x86 to do assembly stuff :\
[05:38] <ubuntu> i have cd live hardy in iso
[05:38] <dwidmann> Doing better than the bottom of the barrel isn't hard though ISS_student
[05:38] <ISS_student> True dwidmann but unfortunately there are still some things I have to use Windows for
[05:39] <dwidmann> I play a few games in Windows ... that's about it. I wish Vmware would get video hardware acceleration nailed, then I'd never have to reboot again :)
[05:39] <Tidus> that's ok.  i have to deal with a marvell chipset on my wireless card :P
[05:39] <Tidus> dwidmann: what games?
[05:40] <holycow> hasn't marvell open sourced everything?
[05:40] <jMerliN> dwidmann: we just need wine to be better
[05:40] <holycow> they are supposed to be the good guys
[05:40] <jMerliN> and for game developers to make their engines run on linux natively
[05:40] <jMerliN> :\
[05:40] <Tidus> holycow: not for my wlan card... have to use ndiswrapper
[05:40] <TeslaTony> !pt | ubuntu
[05:41] <ISS_student> Is there a linux codec or something I can get to allow me to play bluray in Linux
[05:41] <jMerliN> it's kindof hard when microsoft pays incredible amounts to companies for exclusitivity of development, tbh just-another-monopolistic-tactic from microshit :\
[05:41] <TeslaTony> ubuntu: you might find one of those rooms slightly more helpful
[05:41] <ubuntu> thx
[05:41] <dwidmann> Tidus: FEAR, Q4 (has a linux version available, but it just doesn't perform as well for reasons unknown), Diablo 1, Red Alert 2
[05:41] <NickPresta> ISS_student, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[05:42] <TeslaTony> ubuntu: Come back if you stump them
[05:42] <Tidus> dwidmann: Q4 runs beautifully here on linux, diablo1 runs on wine quite well, i think FEAR does too, not too sure about RA2
[05:42] <jMerliN> wine is horrendous really
[05:42] <jMerliN> I worked with the dev team for a few months
[05:42] <Tidus> dwidmann: i play WoW on linux using just straight up wine... better performance than actually using windows
[05:42] <dwidmann> Tidus: last I checked I couldn't get D1 to run in wine,maybe this has changed, FEAR was silver at best last time I looked it up, RA2 was crashy last time I ran it in WINE
[05:43] <jMerliN> I've done win32 development for years and years, I'm so familiar with all of the APIs and I've done a lot of low-level development and undocumented stuff, including looking at windows rdisassemblies
[05:43] <jMerliN> but the problem with wine is their development strategy
[05:43] <jMerliN> it's what causes the inherent bugs
[05:43] <dwidmann> Tidus: I play other games that I haven't mentioned because I use them in WINE
[05:43] <Hydrogen> topic...
[05:43] <Hydrogen> this is not on it
[05:43] <ISS_student> Well later all time for me to run
[05:43] <TeslaTony> Tidus: Can you give me a link to getting WoW running under Kubuntu? My brother likes that game, and it'd be cool to avoid rebooting my computer every time
[05:44] <TeslaTony> (that, and the potential to be windows free at last...)
[05:44] <Hydrogen> !wow
[05:44] <Tidus> TeslaTony: it's a gentoo page, but most of the steps are the same, except replace 'emerge' with 'sudo apt-get', and lemme find it
[05:44] <NickPresta> TeslaTony, the page at WineHQ should have basic instructions for getting WoW to run
[05:44] <Hydrogen> no need to use the gentoo page
[05:44] <Hydrogen> It's pretty straight forward :)
[05:44] <TeslaTony> Thanks
[05:44] <Tidus> TeslaTony: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine ... gives you the tweaks to eek out another 20fps
[05:45] <Hydrogen> just install wine, make sure your using propriatry drivers
[05:45] <Hydrogen> and run wine on the installer
[05:45] <Hydrogen> the opengl registry edit is actually out of date
[05:45] <Hydrogen> Theres another hidden option for nvidia users
[05:45] <Hydrogen> that gives even more performance
[05:46] <Tidus> and that would be?
[05:46] <TeslaTony> !autocad
[05:47] <Hydrogen> Option "MultiGPU" "true"
[05:47] <Hydrogen> in the device section of xorg.conf
[05:47] <Tidus> only works if you have SLI tho dont it?
[05:48] <Hydrogen> no
[05:48] <TeslaTony> Outside of a few games, autocad, MS Office, and a program for accessing my phone (motorola RAZR), I never use windows
[05:49] <Tidus> TeslaTony: there's a way to access the filesystem on motorola phones in linux, use OO.org instead of office, and the other two i dont know about
[05:49] <Hydrogen> OO is pretty not-that-satisfactory, regregtabbly
[05:50] <TeslaTony> I use OpenOffice most of the time, but sometimes I gotta have MS
[05:51] <Tidus> i'd be linux only except for one reason...
[05:51] <TeslaTony> The last time I used the KDE motorola tools my system crashed
[05:51] <Tidus> my woman-friend... she can't grasp the concept of using gnome or KDE
[05:52] <Tidus> so i keep xp around on my laptop for her
[05:53] <SCOFeeTroll> Hello, I am here by command of Dark McBride and Joseph Stalin.
[05:53] <SCOFeeTroll> PAY YOUR $699 SCO LINUX LICENSE FEE, YOU COCK-SMOKING TEABAGGERS!
[05:53] <SCOFeeTroll> That is all.
[05:53] <dthacker> using bash, how do I send a newline in an echo statement?
[05:54] <SCOFeeTroll> \n
[05:54] <TeslaTony> Tidus: For basic use, I've found KDE and Gnome very easy...
[05:54] <SCOFeeTroll> I am from Slashdot.
[05:54] <dwidmann> SCOFeeTroll: good for you
[05:55] <dthacker> echo "foo\n" gives me foo\n
[05:55] <dthacker> not a newline
[05:56] <dwidmann> dthacker: try using an actual line break, you'll need to use quotes of course
[05:57] <dthacker> ok, I'll give that a shot.
[05:57] <Relativista> [Auto message: I'm away]
[05:58] <viperserv2> there anyway to setup a root with admin access?
[05:58] <dwidmann> !away | Relativista
[05:58] <dwidmann> viperserv2: you *could* unlock your root account, why do you need to?
[05:59] <TeslaTony> An admin account is just about as good as a full root account, especially on the command line
[05:59] <TeslaTony> (sudo, su, fortune...)
[06:00] <Micronovell> Muahahaha
[06:00] <Micronovell> SCO was purely a distraction. Mr. Ballmer, the Penguin is now our's!
[06:01] <Tidus> TeslaTony: i use kde4 lol
[06:01] <TeslaTony> Tidus: Same here
[06:01] <Micronovell> Pay your $699 Windows license fee, you linux-using tea baggers!
[06:01] <Tidus> viperserv2: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[06:01] <jMerliN> so has anyone here ever played with LFS?
[06:01] <Micronovell> jMerliN: Yes.
[06:01] <Tidus> !ops Micronovell
[06:01] <Tidus> craps
[06:02] <Tidus> that didn't work
[06:02] <jMerliN> Micronovell: how was it?
[06:02] <dwidmann> !language | Micronovell
[06:02] <TeslaTony> Tidus: In some ways it's easier to adapt to KDE4 than to OSX
[06:02] <Tidus> TeslaTony: i'd use osx over kde4, more features
[06:02] <Micronovell> jMerliN: Wait until you have three days of nothing to do.
[06:02] <jMerliN> but was it worth it / did you learn much? lol
[06:02] <Micronovell> Of course.
[06:03] <jMerliN> i may do it after my exams
[06:03] <jMerliN> have plenty of free space to partition off for a go
[06:05] <azzco> I'm having some problems with my portable hd. when I plug it in, I get a device /dev/sdc, but I can't use it. for example sudo fdisk /dev/sdc, unable to read
[06:06] <azzco> Any ideas anyone?
[06:06] <Relativista> [Auto message: I'm available]
[06:06] <Tidus> Relativista: please turn that off in here
[06:07] <ere4si> azzco: what sort of file system is supposed to be on it and did you you disconnect it withoutunmounting it at some stage?
[06:11] <viperserv2> how do i get build tools?
[06:11] <holycow> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:12] <azzco> ere4si: It's supposed to be a few partitions. ext2 and fat32, I don't believe I removed it without umounting it...
[06:13] <Tidus> azzco: so sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc fails out? (that's a lowercase L, not an I or 1)
[06:13] <ere4si> azzco: removing it without unmounting can wreck the file table
[06:13] <prince_jammys> zsh
[06:13] <azzco> Tidus: What does the -l flag do? (BTW tidus, FFX?)
[06:14] <Tidus> azzco: lists partitions on the disk, and yes :P
[06:14] <azzco> Well the command gave no answer =/
[06:14] <Tidus> try 'sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc'
[06:14] <Tidus> err... sdc
[06:14] <azzco> I guess my documents are gone forever =/
[06:14] <Tidus> blah... not used to everything being sdx
[06:15] <azzco> Fatal error, can't read disk drive :s
[06:15] <TeslaTony> azzco: You might also just try rebooting with the drive hooked up
[06:16] <Tidus> azzco: does the disk work on another machine?
[06:16] <azzco> Tidus: It worked a few days ago in school
[06:16] <Tidus> hm...
[06:16] <azzco> Maybe I should try that reboot before I have to leave. be back in a bit
[06:16] <Tidus> try TeslaTony's idea
[06:16] <Tidus> reboot with it hooked up
[06:16] <viperserv2> hmm i can't do anything without root
[06:17] <Tidus> viperserv2: type 'sudo -i' then push enter
[06:17] <Tidus> type your password, push enter
[06:17] <Tidus> voila, you're root
[06:17] <travioso> question for everyone..  i'm using hardy and tried installing ieee80211 1.2.18 to be enable to run rtap interface on my ipw2200 wireless..  halfway through it runs into errors after it already removed symbolic links etc from kernel..  how would i go about repairing this so i can have wireless again?
[06:17] <TeslaTony> viperserv2: What are you trying to do?
[06:22] <TeslaTony> viperserv2: If you need root on the command line, sudo will do the trick (just use it with every command you want it to apply to). If you need it for your GUI, hit alt+f2 and type kdesudo <program>
[06:22] <TeslaTony> azzco: Any luck?
[06:22] <Tidus> TeslaTony: sudo -i will give you a root prompt
[06:22] <azzco> TeslaTony: Nope =/
[06:22] <TeslaTony> Ow
[06:23] <azzco> I really expected the drive to live a bit longer... at least more than 2 years, it hasn't even been a year sincve I bought it yet =o
[06:23] <TeslaTony> Last time I ran into this problem, I basically just waited and it went away, so I wouldn't give up hope *just* yet
[06:24] <viperserv2> how do i delete stuff with ssh?
[06:24] <azzco> Should I try smashing it?
[06:24] <TeslaTony> If it makes you feel better...
[06:25] <TeslaTony> Or if you can turn it into a really funny YouTube video...
[06:26] <Hydrogen> hard drives are much more difficult to smash than you might believe
[06:29] <TeslaTony> Hydrogen: Thermite is always good. Barring that, use a barbeque
[06:30] <holycow> or just pop th etop open, put a rag on top of the platters and lightly press
[06:30] <azzco> Foudn the recite, almost 8 months old. No wonder it broke, I mean 8 months that's a long time for hardware..
[06:30] <holycow> they shatter into glass
[06:30] <holycow> if you want data gone
[06:31] <azzco> Hydrogen: Well they're called hard drives because they are hard. I think it was (It was something as silly as that at least)
[06:31] <azzco> Even my usb sticks lasts longer, had a usb stick for at least 2 years now =o
[06:31] <viperserv2> how do u delete stuff in ssh?
[06:32] <TeslaTony> azzco: Seriously, though. If you have data on there that you want, don't give up
[06:32] <azzco> viperserv2: Are you asking how to delete stuff in cli?
[06:32] <genii> viperserv2: rm <name>
[06:32] <viperserv2> ah hmm how bout a dir?
[06:33] <genii> viperserv2: ls
[06:33] <genii> viperserv2: rename = mv
[06:33] <ASUS-tek> bout a dir?---> what does taht mean
[06:33] <ASUS-tek> that *
[06:33] <viperserv2> well theres a folder i want to delete
[06:33] <genii> viperserv2: to rm a dir:   rm -r <dirname>  or rm -rf <dirname> to force
[06:34] <viperserv2> cd ..
[06:34] <ASUS-tek> ??
[06:34] <ASUS-tek> ahhhhhh ...... am feeling sleepy
[06:34] <viperserv2> dual monitors hehe
[06:35] <viperserv2> i didn't click on my ssh
[06:35] <azzco> Thanks for the help TeslaTony and Tidus, gtg
[06:35] <ASUS-tek> ist kde or gome better
[06:35] <ASUS-tek> gnome8
[06:36] <ASUS-tek> is kde of gnome better
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ASUS-tek: you're asking a loaded question in a support channel for the kde-centric release of ubuntu
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> take it to offtopic or stop talking about it
[06:36] <genii> ASUS-tek: There is no "better" just different according to how you like to work and what you find you like
[06:36] <ASUS-tek> ok
[06:36]  * genii hands Daisuke_Ido a coffee
[06:37] <ASUS-tek> tell me more about kde
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, thank you
[06:37] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: Anytime :)
[06:37] <ASUS-tek> kde
[06:37] <ASUS-tek> is it easy to use
[06:38] <ASUS-tek> as gnome
[06:38] <ASUS-tek> or complecated like vista
[06:38] <viperserv2> hmm something is wrong
[06:38] <ASUS-tek> where
[06:39] <genii> ASUS-tek: Again you're asking subjective question
[06:39] <holycow> closer to vista than gnome
[06:39] <holycow> but hes right its subjective
[06:39] <ASUS-tek> ok et ]
[06:39] <ASUS-tek> okey *
[06:39] <ASUS-tek> ok then i will aks objective guesting :P
[06:39] <holycow> kde4 is closer to gnome than vista tho
[06:39] <ASUS-tek> ok and
[06:39] <holycow> with marked improvements over gnome
[06:39] <ASUS-tek> tell me more
[06:40] <ASUS-tek> jmprovements like
[06:40] <holycow> you are going to haveto install it your self and try it
[06:40] <ASUS-tek> is kde 4 version stable
[06:40] <genii> ASUS-tek: Not yet
[06:40] <ASUS-tek> ya i tryed kde 4.1
[06:40] <ASUS-tek> ok
[06:41] <ASUS-tek> ok is any one know is pclinuxos of kubuntu fast at boothing u[
[06:41] <ASUS-tek> or*
[06:42] <ASUS-tek> ok does any one know is pclinuxos or kubuntu fast at boothing up
[06:42] <ASUS-tek> i only tryed pclinuxos in live mode
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> Linux Journal gave PCLinux good marks
[06:44] <ASUS-tek> okey thx dude
[06:44] <ASUS-tek> which linux u using
[06:45] <ASUS-tek> ??
[06:45] <viperserv2> how do i move stuff in ssh?
[06:46] <viperserv2> like a dir to another dir
[06:46] <ere4si> mv?
[06:49] <ASUS-tek> viperserv2 u running server on kubuntu
[06:50] <viperserv2> yeah
[06:50] <ASUS-tek> nice
[06:50] <ASUS-tek> well how is it like running ubuntu server
[06:50] <ASUS-tek> is it a web server
[06:50] <viperserv2> i got scp/ssh/freenx working
[06:50] <ASUS-tek> ok nice congrates
[06:51] <sorteal> Is there a way to switch 8.04 to Konqueror from Dolphin?
[06:51] <viperserv2> well the server is at a data center
[06:52] <ASUS-tek> ok nice to know that i and even nicer to know taht it runs on ubuntu
[06:52] <ere4si> !konquerer
[06:52] <ere4si> !konqueror
[06:53] <prince_jammys> !dolphin | sorteal
[06:53] <ASUS-tek> is konqueror the fast browser
[06:53] <sorteal> Thanks
[06:53] <ere4si> that's what I was looking for ;)
[06:54] <prince_jammys> ASUS-tek: konqueror is a file-browser, web-browser, and more ...
[06:54] <ASUS-tek> ok
[06:54] <ASUS-tek> nice but how fast is it iam using opera
[06:55] <ASUS-tek> one more thing i am using 1 gb ram does 64 bit ubuntu make any difference
[06:57] <ASUS-tek> does any one kows how to register for freenode
[06:57] <Fujisan> Hello i have a problem with kopete in kubuntu i get this message: Kopete could not connect to any of the servers in the network associated with this account (freenode). Please try again later.
[06:57] <Fujisan> can anyone help me fix it
[06:57] <prince_jammys> !register | ASUS-tek
[06:58] <ASUS-tek> « /nick <nickname>
[06:58] <ASUS-tek> but there is no link for registration
[06:58] <ASUS-tek> i am uisng opera chat
[06:59] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: you don't need a link, you do it by messaging nickserv
[06:59] <ASUS-tek> ok can u tell me how to do that
[06:59] <TeslaTony> "/msg nickserv register <password>"
[07:00] <ASUS-tek> how to send that
[07:00] <ubuntu> hi
[07:00] <ASUS-tek> "/msg nickserv register <password>"    to the freende server
[07:01] <TeslaTony> Replace <password> with whatever you want your password to be, and remove the "
[07:02] <ASUS-tek> i dont know hwo to do taht as i am using opera
[07:02] <ASUS-tek> which software u using
[07:03] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: you type that command (the one starting with /msg) where you are typing this.
[07:04] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: /msg is used to message other users, or in this case, the nickserv bot.
[07:04] <ASUS-tek> ok
[07:05] <ASUS-tek> ya it got me registered now how to enter the password
[07:06] <ere4si>  /msg nickserve password
[07:06] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: if that got you registered, then the password is already set.
[07:06] <dwidmann> ere4si: no e
[07:07] <ere4si> ahh
[07:07] <prince_jammys>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY yourpassword
[07:07] <ASUS-tek> wow ok thx man it got me registered
[07:07] <ASUS-tek>  ;)
[07:08] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: 64-bit will perform better particularly with things that involve a lot of number crunching, though there is a slightly increased memory overhead.
[07:08] <ASUS-tek>  though there is a slightly increased memory overhead---> i didnt get that
[07:09] <ASUS-tek> what is memory overhead
[07:09] <genii> ASUS-tek: Uses more RAM
[07:09] <ASUS-tek> ok
[07:09] <ASUS-tek> will it make differenc for watching mves surfing on the web with lots of tabs open
[07:09] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: no
[07:09] <ASUS-tek> and using messanger
[07:10] <ASUS-tek> ok
[07:10] <ASUS-tek> and for compressing files and trasfering data on lan
[07:10] <dwidmann> It might speed up file compression, I'd have to double check that though
[07:11] <ASUS-tek> ok humm.. thx is 64 bit more stable then 32 bit
[07:11] <ASUS-tek> like in case of ubuntu 64 bit and ubuntu 32 bit
[07:12] <ASUS-tek> will it make any difference using compiz effects
[07:12] <ASUS-tek> on 64 bit system and os
[07:12] <dwidmann> shouldn't make any difference stability wise
[07:12] <ASUS-tek> ok
[07:13] <ASUS-tek> which linux i nice to watching vdo fast boot up
[07:13] <ASUS-tek> is *
[07:13] <ASUS-tek> and very stable
[07:13] <ASUS-tek> and consumes less ram
[07:14] <ASUS-tek> or processing power
[07:14] <holycow> you don't know much about computers do you?
[07:14] <ASUS-tek> yup
[07:14] <ASUS-tek> i dont know about compute with linux installed
[07:14] <holycow> okay first forget worrying about ram
[07:14] <holycow> ram is there to be used
[07:14] <ASUS-tek> ok
[07:14] <holycow> your system should be using as much as possible as long as its not leaking memory
[07:14] <holycow> which is a separate issue
[07:14] <holycow> it should be using ram INSTEAD of hard disk as much as possible
[07:15] <ASUS-tek> what about watching vdos and boot up fast
[07:15] <ASUS-tek> which linux is nice
[07:15] <holycow> second, using processor, thats just not really anything to worry about
[07:15] <ASUS-tek> besides ubuntu
[07:15] <holycow> third they all boot up fast and ubuntu is the fastest
[07:15] <ASUS-tek> okey
[07:15] <ASUS-tek> humm..
[07:15] <holycow> lastly, i have no idea what a vdo is?
[07:16] <zeeon> i think he ment video :)
[07:16] <ASUS-tek> ok have u tryed puppy linux    vdo --> videos
[07:16] <nimrod> hey
[07:16] <holycow> if you want to watch videos ubuntu is your best bet
[07:16] <holycow> its the easiest to install codecs on
[07:16] <holycow> and frankly at the end of the day
[07:16] <holycow> all the linux flavours are the same
[07:16] <ASUS-tek> ok humm..
[07:16] <holycow> they all have the same kernel
[07:16] <holycow> they all have the same libraries
[07:16] <holycow> they all have the same software
[07:16] <holycow> they just mix them up differently
[07:16] <ASUS-tek> humm.. k..
[07:16] <holycow> pick one that you like and learn it
[07:17] <nimrod> anybody know if www.getautomatix.com is down?
[07:17] <ASUS-tek> ok u  using kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:17] <holycow> yes
[07:17] <holycow> that project is dead
[07:17] <holycow> please stop using automatix
[07:17] <holycow> and use damned repos
[07:17] <dwidmann> ASUS-tek: videos-wise, vlc is a solid performer across multiple platforms including linux
[07:17] <nimrod> repos? whats that?
[07:17] <ASUS-tek> and what do u feel about m player
[07:17] <dwidmann> !automatix | nimrod
[07:17] <holycow> repositories
[07:17] <holycow> as in ubuntu repositories
[07:17] <holycow> if you run ubuntu you gotta know what that is, right?
[07:18] <dwidmann> !punctuation
[07:18] <zeeon> Question im trying to run cumpiz but i get an error saying no glx is present? i might be mistaken but shouldn't that come along when i installed my nvidia drivers?
[07:18] <holycow> !screwoff
[07:18] <holycow> oh wait
[07:18] <zeeon> compiz*
[07:18] <Fujisan> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9307/ubottuve0.png <-- my pm slave this ubottu
[07:18] <Fujisan> how useful :P
[07:18] <holycow> zeeon: install the right nvidia drivers
[07:18] <zeeon> i did
[07:18] <holycow> zeeon: there are free nvidia drivers that dont include 3d acceleration
[07:18] <nimrod> ubotu? is that a automatix alike program?
[07:19] <ASUS-tek> i guess i installed automatrix to run real media on ubuntu
[07:19] <dwidmann> zeeon: did you run "nvidia-xconfig" after installing the drivers?
[07:19] <Fujisan> its the bot
[07:19] <holycow> if you have nvidia-glx or whatever the new ones are you should have it yeah
[07:19] <Fujisan> !love
[07:19] <Fujisan> !bot
[07:19] <ASUS-tek> does any one plays counter strik and otehr games on ubuntu
[07:19] <nimrod> ah
[07:20] <Fujisan> where can i download voices for KTTSMgr?
[07:20] <Fujisan> voice synths i mean
[07:20] <nimrod> but, what program should i use instead of automatix?
[07:20] <Fujisan> synaptic
[07:20] <Tidus> nimrod: automatix development has ceased
[07:20] <zeeon> i downloaded the nvidia drivers from nvidia's homepage ver. 169.12 with 3d acc. and no i did not as for some reason i have trouble with kdm crashing when i do i simply altered xorg.conf with Driver   "nvidia" and glxinfo | grep rendering returns Rendering yes
[07:20] <dwidmann> nimrod: adept would be a good one to use
[07:20] <Fujisan> automatix will break your system
[07:20] <nimrod> ok
[07:20] <Fujisan> its not supported here
[07:20] <ASUS-tek> ok does any one over here use vine with ms office 2007 installed
[07:21] <Fujisan> :)
[07:21] <nimrod> thanks for the information guys
[07:21] <Tidus> zeeon: you can just use the restricted drivers manager to install the nvidia drivers
[07:21] <Fujisan> no probs
[07:21] <Tidus> zeeon: or sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[07:22] <zeeon> Tidus not that great as WoW will not run then :)
[07:22] <Fujisan> i have some questions about the Text-to-Speech Manager
[07:22] <Tidus> zeeon: um, not true
[07:22] <Fujisan> can i use it to speak IM messages for me?
[07:22] <dwidmann> zeeon: the easiest way to go about it is to use "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new && sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[07:22] <Tidus> zeeon: i run WoW on kubuntu 8.04 with the stock kxubuntu nvidia drivers
[07:23] <Tidus> and getting better performance out of it than i did in winsucks
[07:23] <zeeon> hmm...i will come back and smack you if the screws up my wow :P
[07:23] <Tidus> zeeon: i take it you remembered to do this to your Config.WTF? (SET gxApi "opengl")
[07:24] <Fujisan> Tidus WowSux
[07:24] <Fujisan> D:
[07:24] <zeeon> yes of course but prior to installing the nvidia driver i had around 5 fps
[07:24] <Fujisan> a subscription based game
[07:24] <Tidus> Fujisan: gtfo ... it's a video game that i prefer to play over others
[07:24] <Fujisan> with a monthly fee is fail
[07:25] <Tidus> zeeon: disable all desktop effects and your fps will go up to ~40
[07:25] <Tidus> i have that problem too
[07:25] <zeeon> who says you need to pay for it? google WoWscape ;)
[07:25] <latitu_> Linux-Hawk i think when it anounces (next update in 30 mins  thing)  the speed is decrease after that..
[07:26] <nimrod> whats the best torrent-program for kubuntu?
[07:26] <zeeon> Tidus im gonna give it a try thanks
[07:26] <latitu_> ktorrent
[07:26] <nimrod> ok
[07:26] <nimrod> thats what i heard from my msn-friend to
[07:27] <Tidus> cool
[07:27] <Tidus> zeeon: i hate playing private servers because woohoo, everything's changed from retail
[07:27] <nimrod> can i change the skin on this irc-program?
[07:27] <Tidus> if a private server was running same as retail i would go private
[07:28] <zeeon> Tidus: I don't play private either how ever it is a way of playing the game for free :)
[07:28] <Kite_DH> hey guys i need some help with my logitech headset, i know how to plug it in but i have no idea whats next. please help me
[07:28] <Fujisan> where can i download voices synths of the KDE Text-to-Speech?
[07:30] <dwidmann> nimrod: that's awfully vague of you .... which irc program?
[07:32] <nimrod> konversation irc....i wish to get dark skin and light text only
[07:33] <nimrod> Konversation irc client (thats the name of the program i use
[07:34] <dwidmann> nimrod, I know it lets you change many of the colors in the settings dialog
[07:34] <dwidmann> nimrod: background color included
[07:34] <nimrod> ah
[07:35] <nimrod> thats what i meen
[07:40] <latitu> i use ktorrent. after sometime of downloading. all downloads get stailed and irc get disconnected. why?
[07:41] <Kite_DH> latitu: because torrent takes all your bandwidth and doesnt let space for other programs, so they cant find the connection to their servers and die
[07:41] <latitu> Kite_DH ok but why the torrent itself gets stailed
[07:41] <latitu> every time
[07:42] <Kite_DH> because there maybe are no seeds, i dunno
[07:42] <ASUS-tek> ur bandwith might be capped or the torrents protocal might be blocked
[07:42] <ASUS-tek> or ur ports might be blocked by ur isp provider
[07:42] <latitu> Kite_DH everytime i restart the torrent . or stop resume each file. it works good in the start
[07:42] <holycow> what ASUS-tek said
[07:43] <latitu> ASUS-tek if its blocked. i shouldnt work at all
[07:43] <holycow> not true
[07:43] <latitu> holycow ok
[07:43] <ASUS-tek> ok some of the isp providers only block only some torrents ports on all
[07:44] <holycow> torrent blocking isn't a simple yes / no kind of thing unfortunately.  they first haveto sniff it out, identify it then they try to throttle it down first
[07:44] <holycow> not just disable it
[07:44] <nimrod> do i only need PyPE to create a program?
[07:44] <Kite_DH> hey guys i need some help with my logitech headset, i know how to plug it in but i have no idea whats next. please help me
[07:44] <holycow> also what ASUS-tek said is true as well
[07:44] <latitu> hm
[07:44] <latitu> how can i see graphical display of all internet / ethernet activites. each ip and each application and how to limit bandwidth of each ip and and each application iam using.?
[07:44] <ASUS-tek> in INdia where i live the block port i dont know about peer resttting and tcp and other things
[07:45] <ASUS-tek> u will have to check out with ur firends using the same isp
[07:45] <latitu> hm
[07:45] <ASUS-tek> that will bgive u an idea
[07:46] <ASUS-tek> or else catch hold of isp provider
[07:46] <latitu> ok
[07:46] <latitu> how can i see graphical display of all internet / ethernet activites. each ip and each application and how to limit bandwidth of each ip and and each application iam using.?
[07:46] <ASUS-tek> ok i know that what u are saying but i gues its all professional sollutins not for end users
[07:47] <Kite_DH> could somebody help me? =(
[07:49] <latitu_> sory disconencted
[07:49] <Tidus> Kite_DH: what's your issue
[07:50] <Kite_DH> i need some help with my logitech headset, i know how to plug it in but i have no idea whats next. please help me
[07:50] <nimrod> i found that i can use a external harddrive(ntfs) if i rightclicked on the disk and clicked properties
[07:50] <latitu_> any app that lets me make priority internet speed or a limit for some apps. or ips on internet. show graphical gui graphs of trafic for each app and ip.?
[07:51] <Fujisan> lol
[07:51] <Fujisan> this bot is freaking me out
[07:51] <Fujisan> i made it speak :/
[07:51] <nimrod> hehe
[07:51] <Fujisan> now it is talking all kinds of werd stuff
[07:51] <nimrod> nerd stuff xD
[07:52] <Fujisan> its reading some text
[07:52] <Fujisan> i need some help to configure this
[07:52] <Fujisan> it wont stop
[07:52] <Fujisan> and its totally invisible for me
[07:52] <nimrod> i dont know much about network
[07:52] <Fujisan> its the speak app
[07:52] <Fujisan> :/
[07:52] <nimrod> ah
[07:53] <Fujisan> kttsmgr
[07:53] <Fujisan> i kept clicking it
[07:53] <Fujisan> :/
[07:53] <nimrod> that i have not tried yet
[07:53] <Fujisan> and now it wont stop
[07:53] <Fujisan> talking
[07:53] <pteague> what does k3b use to rip dvd isos?
[07:54] <Kite_DH> ok, i have time..
[07:54] <nimrod> brb ..must brush my teath
[07:55] <Kite_DH> ASUS-tek: welcome back
[07:56] <ASUS-tek> humm.. :D
[07:56] <Fujisan> how do i configure kttsmgr?
[07:56] <ASUS-tek> am getting read to give my final engineering exams
[07:56] <ASUS-tek> now in few mins i  will be goan
[07:57] <Fujisan> good luck ASUS-tek
[07:57] <ASUS-tek> thx dude !
[08:03] <viperserv2> how do i see my task?
[08:04] <nimrod> what task?
[08:04] <viperserv2> all
[08:06] <viperserv2> like task manager in windows that show your proccesses
[08:06] <nimrod> ah
[08:06] <nimrod> that i dont know...i'm a nooby to linux
[08:08] <nimrod> looks like the people who can help you has left or is idle
[08:08] <TeslaTony> viperserv2: Which desktop environment are you using?
[08:09] <monkeybritches> viperserv2: Try ksysguard
[08:09] <tzd> viperserv2: ctrl Esc
[08:09] <Kite_DH> viperserv2: its called performancemonitor
[08:09] <Fujisan> how do i configure kttsmgr?
[08:09] <monkeybritches> or that
[08:10] <nimrod> yes, ctrl esc works fine :)
[08:10] <Fujisan> i configured it and now it wont display the main window for configuration
[08:10] <viperserv2> hmm how do i install build-essential
[08:10] <Fujisan> someone help me please
[08:10] <jussi01> viperserv2: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <monkeybritches> Sorry Fujisan, I haven't used it
[08:12] <Kite_DH> i still need some help with my logitech headset...
[08:13] <jussi01> Kite_DH: whats the problem?
[08:13] <Kite_DH> well, i plugged it in and i dunno what to do next
[08:14] <nimrod> i used a program called cheese to install my logitech webcam, i think
[08:15] <Kite_DH> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/69 here, if that helps in any way
[08:15] <Kite_DH> and i got this headset http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/playstation_3/devices/3228&cl=de,de
[08:16] <jussi01> Kite_DH: so what the problem?
[08:16] <alexbobp> ﻿After I already had Kubuntu installed, I installed gentoo to another partition.  Since Ubuntu can automagically setup grub's menu.lst for other OSs on install, is there a way to make it automagically add an entry for gentoo?
[08:16] <Kite_DH> jussi01: it doenst work and i dunno how to get it to work
[08:17] <jussi01> Kite_DH: USB?
[08:17] <Kite_DH> USB.
[08:18] <Kite_DH> forget it, it works
[08:18] <jussi01> hehe, what did you do?
[08:18] <nimrod> :)
[08:25] <nimrod> how can i install the new aMSN?
[08:29] <izzyb> How do I tell which version of kubuntu I'm running?
[08:29]  * izzyb thinks it's hardy, but want to double check
[08:30] <TeslaTony> Is there any way to turn the volume up through Alsa?
[08:32] <nimrod> what's alsa?
[08:32] <TeslaTony> Alsa is a sound handling program for linux
[08:33] <nimrod> ah
[08:33] <TeslaTony> RIght now I have my speakers cranked waaay up, and the sound is just about right
[08:33] <nimrod> ok
[08:33] <TeslaTony> Nevermind...it seems Kmix had the front speakers at 80%
[08:34] <nimrod> i use only xmms and amarok
[08:34] <TeslaTony> Yes, but how do they get the sound to your speakers?
[08:35] <nimrod> that i dont know
[08:35] <TeslaTony> xmms, exaile, amarok, etc., are players
[08:35] <jussi01> !version | izzyb
[08:35] <TeslaTony> Alsa is for getting the music from players and other noisemakers to your speakers
[08:35] <jussi01> TeslaTony: alsamixer in terminal :)
[08:35] <izzyb> jussi01, thanks :)
[08:36] <izzyb> so, anyone have experience with xen under hardy?
[08:36]  * izzyb having problems getting the bridge working
[08:36] <jussi01> TeslaTony: have a look at the PCM volume, its usually the culprit
[08:36] <izzyb> in dom0
[08:36]  * jussi01 knows nothing about xen
[08:36] <nimrod> only kubuntu 7.10 here
[08:37] <izzyb> I had assumed that out of the box it would just work, but for some reason I can't ping to the gateway even
[08:38] <TeslaTony> jussi01: Yeah, I found it. I thought I had kmix cranked to the max, but instead a hidden bit was keeping it at 80% or so
[08:38] <jussi01> TeslaTony: :)
[08:38] <izzyb> /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp contains (network-script 'network-bridge netdev=eth0')
[08:39] <izzyb> which is what you need to activate the bridge if I understand correctly
[08:42] <jussi01> izzyb: you may want to try in ##xen
[08:42]  * izzyb nods
[08:44] <nimrod> what program do i use to execute a rpm ?
[08:44] <nimrod> to load a rpm*
[08:45] <llutz> nimrod: use alien to convert it into a .deb
[08:45] <TeslaTony> nimrod: If it doesn't just open on a double-click, try "sudo apt-get install alien"
[08:45] <nimrod> ah
[08:45] <TeslaTony> Then listen to llutz
[08:45] <nimrod> many thanks :D
[08:46] <nimrod> tesla and llutz
[08:46] <TeslaTony> You might also try finding that program in the repositories, too
[08:46] <llutz> nimrod: try to get a real-deb of that software before
[08:46] <nimrod> yes, but it's flash-player
[08:46] <jussi01> !flash
[08:47] <jussi01> nimrod: ^^
[08:47] <TeslaTony> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:47] <TeslaTony> Although the rpm is easily a more recent version...
[08:47] <jussi01> nimrod: really, installing rpm's can really screw with your system
[08:48] <jussi01> !alien> nimrod
[08:49] <rockets> I've got a stock Ubuntu install. What metapackage do I need to install to get the full KDE4 desktop with all the apps it normally comes with
[08:49] <TeslaTony> Y'know, I feel like I'm insulting you when I say your name. "Just type sudo fortune, nimrod"
[08:49] <TeslaTony> rockets: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[08:49] <rockets> kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[08:49] <rockets> ok thanks
[08:49] <rockets> well im going to use synaptic :-P
[08:49] <rockets> but thanks
[08:49] <TeslaTony> Either works
[08:50] <jussi01> rockets: also, kubuntu kde4 help in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:50] <nimrod> no problem Tesla
[08:50] <TeslaTony> I prefer synaptic for when I go hunting, command line for when I know the name
[08:50] <rockets> im glad they finally made kopete not look awful :-P
[08:50] <rockets> tanks jussi01
[08:50] <rockets> thanks*
[08:52] <nimrod> but i cant find deb-package on flashplayer
[08:52] <nimrod> Jussi0
[08:53] <rockets> i prefer to avoid the terminal when im not working on a server
[08:53] <rockets> i want things to "Just Work TM"
[08:53] <TeslaTony> nimrod: You can get flash from the repositories
[08:53] <jussi01> nimrod: as TeslaTony said, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:54] <TeslaTony> You don't need a deb or anything
[08:54] <nimrod> ok, jussi0 and Tesla
[08:54] <nimrod> i would try that :)
[08:54] <jussi01> !tab | nimrod
[08:55] <TeslaTony> nimrod: If that doesn't work for you, or you want to make it harder for yourself, try downloading the source and installing that way ;)
[08:55] <jussi01> TeslaTony: dont confuse him...
[08:55] <nimrod> i dont know how to install source
[08:56] <jussi01> nimrod: dont worry about it right now
[08:57] <nimrod> ok, jussio1
[08:57] <TeslaTony> nimrod: Installing from source is a kind of baptism by fire for linux users...it leave 9 out of 10 jibbering blasphemies against Linus Torvalds and all penguins
[08:58] <TeslaTony> (at least the first time)
[08:58] <nimrod> but i cant find the deb-package
[08:58] <nimrod> ok, Tesla
[08:58] <nimrod> hehe
[08:59] <nimrod> i want to learn to install from source
[08:59] <monkeybritches> It wasn't so bad. More like waterboarding.
[08:59] <TeslaTony> It's worth doing, certainly, but it is a headache
[08:59] <nimrod> ok :P
[09:00] <nimrod> when i try to download flash-player - this is what i see: "http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"
[09:02] <TeslaTony> Why not use the console?
[09:02] <nimrod> ah
[09:03] <TeslaTony> Ah
[09:03] <nimrod> that i must try
[09:03] <nimrod> hehe
[09:03] <TeslaTony> hit alt+f2, type konsole, then hit enter
[09:03] <alexbobp> ﻿After I already had Kubuntu installed, I installed gentoo to another partition.  Since Ubuntu can automagically setup grub's menu.lst for other OSs on install, is there a way to make it automagically add an entry for gentoo?
[09:03] <nimrod> yes
[09:04] <TeslaTony> Then type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, hit enter again, type your password, and follow the prompts
[09:04] <TeslaTony> (which will probably be Continue? (Y/n)
[09:04] <nimrod> ok
[09:04] <nimrod> yeees
[09:04] <nimrod> it works
[09:04] <jussi01> :)
[09:05] <TeslaTony> Any time you know the package name, just type "sudo apt-get install <name>" and it's yours
[09:05] <jussi01> alexbobp: yes, sudo update-grub iirc
[09:05] <nimrod> Flash Plugin installed.
[09:05] <nimrod> ok, Tesla
[09:05] <TeslaTony> If you want a bunch of stuff, type sudo apt-get install <item1> <item2> <item3>
[09:05] <nimrod> thanks for the help :-)
[09:06] <TeslaTony> No problem
 etc excaxtly?
[09:06] <TeslaTony> Now a question for you...any idea how to get the aftertaste of smoked gouda out of ones mouth>
[09:06] <TeslaTony> ?
[09:07] <nimrod> maybe eat some garlic
[09:07] <TeslaTony> Ooh...I like you
[09:07] <nimrod> :)
[09:07] <nimrod> or turkey pepper
[09:07] <jussi01> TeslaTony: hot chocolate.(but if you will continue this discussion, please head to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:08] <alexbobp> jussi01: Thanks.  It looks like that did update menu.lst, but it didn't find my gentoo.
[09:08] <TeslaTony> On a more serious note...can you change the background of konsole to an image?
[09:09] <jussi01> alexbobp: hrm, you could try the process if you lost grub after windows, that should get it for you
[09:09] <jussi01> !grub | alexbobp
[09:09] <jussi01> TeslaTony: Im pretty sure you can
[09:10] <TeslaTony> I did it with whatever gnome uses, but can't find the Konsole option
[09:11] <alexbobp> jussi01: thanks
[09:12] <jussi01> :)
[09:14] <alexbobp> jussi01: apparently that how-to covers reinstalling grub and adding the windows bootloader option.  I think I'll check Gentoo's howtos for how to add the option properly.
[09:15] <Tidus> alexbobp: it's completely different in debian-based systems than it is gentoo
[09:16] <dondon> i have a raid array (SATA) that kubuntu runs off of, i just put in a second disk (IDE) but /dev/hda doesn't exist and when i fdisk -l it lists nothing. im lost
[09:16] <alexbobp> Tidus: the things you need for boot options are completely different?
[09:17] <Tidus> alexbobp: menu.lst is set up a bit weird, but the correct option is already there in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:17] <Tidus> just commented out
[09:17] <Tidus> dondon: an IDE disk will still show up in newer kubuntu as /dev/sdx...
[09:17] <Tidus> in your case, probably /dev/sdb
[09:18] <alexbobp> how would the correct option be there?  I installed gentoo after installing ubuntu.
[09:18] <Tidus> ah
[09:18] <Tidus> well what hard disk is windows on?
[09:18] <llutz> alexbobp: you installed gentoos grub into partition? use chainload
[09:18] <alexbobp> I didn't let gentoo install grub.
[09:19] <alexbobp> It looks now like that was a mistake.
[09:19] <Tidus> now i'm confused
[09:19] <llutz> it's easier
[09:20] <dondon> Tidus: thanks, it was sdc (raid array took up sda/sdb)
[09:21] <alexbobp> Here's my menu.lst entry: http://pastebin.ca/1007879
[09:21] <alexbobp> When I boot, I get an error about the filesystem being broken.
[09:21] <llutz> alexbobp: UUID=e3a52da1-469a-4e7e-b2ab-0426d2666ede  = /dev/sdb5?
[09:22] <alexbobp> yes.
[09:22] <llutz> what filesystem?
[09:22] <alexbobp> ext3
[09:22] <alexbobp> actually, though, I might want to recheck that uuid.  How can I do that?
[09:22] <llutz> sudo blkid
[09:23] <Arelis> Why does Ubuntu support more hardware than Kubuntu?
[09:23] <alexbobp> btw, I just ran fsck to make sure, and it said it was squeaky clean
[09:23] <alexbobp> Arelis: I don't think that's the case.  What hardware are you talking about?
[09:23] <alexbobp> Ubuntu and kubuntu use the same drivers, afaik
[09:24] <alexbobp>  /dev/sdb5: UUID="e3a52da1-469a-4e7e-b2ab-0426d2666ede" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[09:24] <alexbobp> Silly IRC thinking that's a slash command...
[09:24] <Arelis> alexbobp: a digital camera
[09:25] <alexbobp> Arelis: is it really unsupported by kubuntu?  I do know that sometimes Gnome gives desktop icons for certain hardware and KDE does not.
[09:25] <alexbobp> You might still be able to access it if you run some camera-related software.
[09:25] <Arelis> alexbobp: It's a Sony Cybershot, and via USB it doesn't do much on Kubuntu.
[09:26] <alexbobp> Arelis: what program did you use to access it on Ubuntu?
[09:27] <Arelis> alexbobp: i haven't done it there yet, but searched Google and found people having problems with it on Kubuntu but not in Ubuntu
[09:27] <alexbobp> This might help, from a forum: Right click on the desktop, and select "Configure Desktop" -> "Behaviour" -> "Device Icons"
[09:29] <rishi_> hi
[09:29] <nimrod> good bye
[09:29] <alexbobp> Arelis: let me know if that works
[09:30] <Arelis> alexbobp: okay, hold on, let me get the camersa
[09:30] <Arelis> camera*
[09:30] <alexbobp> good luck!
[09:30] <Arelis> thanks :)P
[09:31] <Arelis> alexbobp: i'll do it sometime else. Right now i want to do other things. And the camera is not mine
[09:31] <ccc4> im a newbie can any help me plz i downloadead wow on to my pc took a day  then i played it and it keept freezing was soo slow
[09:31] <alexbobp> ccc4: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[09:31] <ccc4> can any help help me to make it faster or whats causing it to slow down
[09:32] <ccc4> not sure
[09:32] <ccc4> but its kubunto
[09:32] <alexbobp> anybody here know how to check your graphics card?
[09:33] <rishi_> alexbobp:yes
[09:33] <alexbobp> odd, ccc4 pm'd me and then quit.
[09:33] <ccc4> bck
[09:33] <alexbobp> ah.
[09:33] <ccc4> odd. ? im newbiee soz
[09:33] <rishi_> alexbobp:u can check your graphics card
[09:33] <alexbobp> ccc4: If you have an nvidia graphics card, you'll want to install proprietary drivers.
[09:33] <ccc4> i got
[09:33] <ccc4> nvidaa i fiink
[09:33] <ccc4> cleanead ma pc y.daii
[09:33] <ccc4> was dustyy woooow
[09:34] <alexbobp> ccc4: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[09:34] <llutz> clean keyboard too :)
[09:34] <rishi_> alexbobp:under your sytem settings
[09:34] <alexbobp> ccc4: "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[09:34] <alexbobp> rishi_: thanks
[09:34] <alexbobp> ccc4: You might try looking up your graphics card like rishi_ said if you're not sure what kind it is
[09:35] <ccc4> fanks allex
[09:35] <rishi_> alexbobp:ur welcome
[09:36] <alexbobp> you might also try checking your typing before sending.  You can add something like 20 IQ points just by using the correct letters in words.
[09:36] <ccc4> how
[09:36] <ccc4> doo i look it up
[09:36] <ccc4> alex? sudo nvidia-xconfig with that
[09:36] <ccc4> when i run the konsole?
[09:37] <ccc4> Ok thank you for your info better
[09:37] <alexbobp> run those in a command line
[09:37] <alexbobp> like konsole, xterm, or whatever
[09:38] <GortiZ> hi to all.. someone could help me with kdevelop and qt linguist?
[09:38] <ccc4> alex i did it now what nuffing seemd 2 happen
[09:38] <GortiZ> is there a way to make them work together
[09:38] <alexbobp> ccc4: so the first command, ﻿"sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", should give a lot of output.  Did it not?
[09:38] <ccc4> yes it did
[09:39] <alexbobp> okay.  The second command should give one line of output.  Did it?
[09:39] <rishi_> GortiZ:pls explain
[09:39] <ccc4> it gave me loads then it said setting up nvidi-glx
[09:39] <alexbobp> did it give an error message?
[09:40] <ccc4> no
[09:40] <ccc4> dont think so
[09:40] <alexbobp> good.  Now, you will need to log out, and hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart your x-server.
[09:40] <alexbobp> If it worked, you will see an nvidia logo.
[09:40] <ccc4> http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/restricted nvidia-glx 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4
[09:40] <alexbobp> Then, log back in, and it your games should run a lot better.
[09:40] <ccc4> whas dat
[09:40] <Arelis> alexbobp: What applications do i need for Linux to create 2D animations?
[09:40] <GortiZ> I'm working to a multilanguage application and I need to use qt linguist to translate it, I don't want to run lupdate and other commands form shell and so i was searching a way to do everything into kdevelop as for qt designer
[09:40] <Arelis> alexbobp: I run Flash in wine but it doesn't support my tablet
[09:41] <alexbobp> Arelis: sorry, I wouldn't know.  I'm not an artist.
[09:41] <GortiZ> rishi_: could you help me?
[09:41] <Arelis> alexbobp: okay
[09:41] <RurouniJones> Arelis, hang on. Your tabler works in Linux right?
[09:42] <rishi_> GortiZ:i try my best pls explioan me
[09:42] <GortiZ> rishi_: I'm working to a multilanguage application and I need to use qt linguist to translate it, I don't want to run lupdate and other commands form shell and so i was searching a way to do everything into kdevelop as for qt designer
[09:43] <alexbobp> ccc4: I don't even know what you're asking.  You'll have to try harder than "whas dat"
[09:43] <ccc4>  alex ok well the konsole ran 4 sure then it said proccesing now takin place
[09:44] <alexbobp> GortiZ: If kdevelop doesn't support that (and I don't know if it does), then running the other tools externally is the only option.  You might be able to save time by writing a bash script to do it, though.
[09:44] <alexbobp> ccc4: Okay, now you need to restart your xserver so it uses the new one.
[09:44] <alexbobp> The easiest way is to just restart your computer, I guess.
[09:44] <rishi_> GortiZ:do you have any readme or manual of that programme???
[09:45] <alexbobp> You could also log out and then hit ctrl-alt-backspace.
[09:45] <GortiZ> alexbobp: ok, I was only trying first to search a way to do it internally
[09:45] <alexbobp> GortiZ: then sorry, I don't know.  I have no experience with kdevelop.
[09:45] <GortiZ> rishi_: qt linguist is not a part ok kdevelop so in the manual there isn't anything about kdevelop
[09:45] <GortiZ> alexbobp: no problem
[09:46] <ccc4> k than you alex i will try that
[09:46] <alexbobp> GortiZ: some development tools I've used, though, do let you set up tasks to run whenever you build or whatever.  If it has a feature like that, you could use it to call the needed commands.
[09:47] <alexbobp> I doubt it will have a feature specifically for qt linguist.
[09:48] <GortiZ> well.. for qt designer it has, so i hope that it is so also for qt linguist
[09:48] <GortiZ> gh! sorry my english is not so good
[09:48] <GortiZ> :)
[09:49] <rishi__> GortiZ:but one thing u should do
[09:49] <rishi__> GortiZ:u just open the programme
[09:50] <rishi1> GortiZ:an d check the help of it or check options
[09:50] <GortiZ> i'm already searching into the program and into internet..
[09:51] <rishi1> GortiZ:but i am really soory that i have no idea about it
[09:51] <alexbobp> If ccc4 doesn't come back soon, I'm gonna start to worry that I broke his computer...
[09:51] <GortiZ> rishi1: ok do not worry.. I'll continue my researches and if i'll find nothing i'll do it manually :)
[09:52] <rishi1> GortiZ:if u find anything so pls tell me also
[09:52] <rishi1> GortiZ:thank u
[09:54] <GortiZ> rishi1: ok i will
[09:59] <GortiZ> rishi1: found! It was easyer than you can immagine.. -.-'! there was a TRANSLATION voice under the qmake assistant and so right click->add translation :)
[10:02] <rishi1> GoritZ:great
[10:03] <rishi1> GoritZ:thanks
[10:03] <GortiZ> bye
[10:04] <konrad> dont upgrade ubuntu from Gnome
[10:26] <mike-kubuntu> hey, how do i start the awn?
[10:26] <mike-kubuntu> i installed it, but i cant find out how to actually run it
[10:29] <ronnie> I looked in k-infocenter but don't know what to look for?, how can I see if my agp slot is 4x or can it be only 2x? cause it's an old pentium4 desktop = )
[10:30] <osh_> I want to upgrade to Hardy since my experience from it is that it's much better than gutsy.
[10:31] <osh_> However, the vmware-server is a "must have" on this computer so how can I find out if the vmware-server is included in Hardy?
[10:31] <osh_> I've looked at http://packages.ubuntu.com but I don't see anything there.
[10:32] <ronnie> why not just boot from the live cd & check it out without changeing anything = )
[10:33] <osh_> ronnie: I've done that. It's not in the default distro. Previously you had to enable some "partner repo" to get it to work, but I see nothing like that in Hardy...
[10:35] <ronnie> oh k just a thought oh well , I had to load the packages , at first nothing was there = )
[10:36] <osh_> ronnie: Ok. Thanks for helping anyway. If you figure it out, feel free to let me know. =)
[10:38] <ronnie> hey anyone know how I can find out my agp slot, 4x is just my guess, it's a pentium4 netvista desktop, my geforce 5200 4x card works great, but the heatsink on it gets sooo hot ya can't even touch it!!  is this normal for video cards or am I going to fry it in like a week or 2?
[10:39] <bentob0x> how do you install a 9600GT on Kubuntu 8.04
[10:39] <bentob0x> ?
[10:40] <osh_> bentob0x: that's a gfx-card?
[10:41] <bentob0x> yep
[10:41] <osh_> !gfx
[10:41] <bentob0x> wasn't recognised out of the box from kubuntu
[10:41] <bentob0x> 8.04
[10:41] <bentob0x> I used the restricted drivers before and it worked like a charm
[10:42] <bentob0x> now it doesn't even offers me the choice to 'check' the nvidia restricted drivers, they just don't appear in jockey
[10:42] <osh_> bentob0x: Odd. You should probably file a bug-report then.
[10:42] <bentob0x> ah ok
[10:42] <bentob0x> where can I do such a thing?
[10:42] <osh_> launchpad.net
[10:42] <bentob0x> hehe, k
[10:42] <bentob0x> will do so
[10:43] <osh_> if it worked before it should work now. regressions should not be allowed. ;-)
[10:45] <bentob0x> yea, regressions are a bitch
[10:45] <bentob0x> what's best to install on an AMD machine, kubuntu standard or the 64 bits version?
[10:46] <jussi01> !bug | bentob0x
[10:54] <agridesa> set
[10:56] <ere4si> and match
[11:03] <red5> hello all
[11:03] <red5> how do i enable the partner repository in adept
[11:04] <red5> 8.04 hh
[11:04] <red5> !info opera
[11:09] <red5> !info win32
[11:09] <red5> !info codecs
[11:10] <RurouniJones> !win32codecs
[11:10] <jussi01> red5: it should be available under adept - manage repositories - third party repositores iirc..
[11:11] <jarle> Could anybody help me with a default sources.list for Kubuntu 8.04 64bit?
[11:11] <fabian_> hey
[11:11] <fabian_> anybody there?
[11:11] <jussi01> lots of us...
[11:11] <fabian_> very good
[11:12] <fabian_> when i open my "media" folder, i cannot see any icons
[11:13] <fabian_> it says "folder is loading 0%" (or something simmilar, i'm using the german version)
[11:13] <fabian_> via bash i can access the folder
[11:14] <latitu> hi, i have dsl on one lan card and another lan card connected to an other pc. how can i make the other pc share the internet ?
[11:17] <fabian_> any ideasß
[11:17] <fabian_> ?
[11:20] <fabian_> seems that everybody here is idle
[11:20] <emilsedgh> !patience | fabian_
[11:20] <emilsedgh> !night | fabian_
[11:22] <rockets> fabian_: are you fabian from brainlink by any chance
[11:22] <fabian_> your kiddin??? it's 12.30am :-D
[11:23] <rockets> never mind
[11:23] <fabian_> brainlink?
[11:23] <fabian_> (i mean 12.30pm)
[11:24] <latitu_> hi, i have dsl on one lan card and another lan card connected to an other pc. how can i make the other pc share the internet ?
[11:24] <Coggz> what is the question, 10:24am here
[11:25] <latitu_> i was disconected. sory........
[11:25] <fabian_> someone just sent me a little text about "night" and that atm many are asleep
[11:26] <nonewmsgs> a brit?
[11:26] <nonewmsgs> i just rolled out of bed here
[11:27] <nonewmsgs> 6am
[11:27] <fabian_> ah
[11:27] <fabian_> k
[11:27] <nonewmsgs> he wants to do the internet conection sharing
[11:27] <latitu_> what is 'enable dhcp for local network' in firestarter means?
[11:28] <nonewmsgs> dhcp is the way most highspeed interenets give you an ip
[11:29] <nonewmsgs> ack
[11:29] <latitu_> oh the auto ip assigning thing?
[11:29] <nonewmsgs> it means the router gives you the ip
[11:29] <nonewmsgs> yeah
[11:30] <latitu_> so if i want to share my internet with another computers i should enable both options ? enable internet connection sharing and enable dhcp for local network?
[11:30] <latitu_> or ony one>?
[11:30] <latitu_> only*
[11:31] <nonewmsgs> try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[11:32] <latitu_> thx
[11:32] <latitu_> i need to check enable internet connection sharing ..
 but dhcp is an option..
 right?
 and if i dont check dhcp. how should i assign ip to the computer. or how will it work?
[11:32] <nonewmsgs> the first computer gets dhcp the 2nd one doesnt
[11:33] <nonewmsgs> pc #2 gets a static ip
[11:38] <nonewmsgs> latitu_ i wish you good luck but i have to start getting ready for work.  the good news is people who are much more knowledgable than me should be here soon
[11:41] <Tidus> darn and right as i was fixing to answer the question lol
[11:42] <ErkiDerLoony> Hi!
[11:42] <Tidus> hi
[11:42] <ErkiDerLoony> ﻿My xine does not find any plugin to handle mp3 files.
[11:42] <ErkiDerLoony> ﻿Although I have libmad0 and libxine1-ffmpeg and libxine1-plugins installed.
[11:42] <osh_> What's a good project management (or portfolio management) program for Linux? Best one I've found is KPlato but it's sorely lacking in features...
[11:42] <ErkiDerLoony> ﻿There also exists a /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.20/xineplug_decode_mad.
[11:42] <ErkiDerLoony> ﻿It seems xine only cannot associate mp3 with this libmad.
[11:43] <ErkiDerLoony> I'm using the recent 8.04 release.
[11:43] <Tidus> so am i, and xine is playing .mp3 just fine
[11:43] <ErkiDerLoony> The most funny thing is that mp3 support worked well until I rebooted this morning.
[11:43] <ErkiDerLoony> Here only mplayer does.
[11:43] <ErkiDerLoony> But xine (and amarok as it relys on xine) does not!
[11:44] <Tidus> i'm on kubuntu 8.04/KDE4
[11:44] <ErkiDerLoony> Mplayer uses libmad as far as i can tell from the console output.
[11:44] <ErkiDerLoony> Im using KDE3
[11:44] <latitu> how to give it a static ip?
[11:44] <ErkiDerLoony> but also Kubuntu 8.04.
[11:44] <Tidus> latitu: sudo apt-get remove networkmanager, then man interfaces
[11:45] <latitu> hm
[11:46] <Tidus> ErkiDerLoony: so i take it you have libxine1-plugins installed...
[11:47] <ErkiDerLoony> Yes.
[11:47] <Tidus> that's just an empty package by the way
[11:47] <ErkiDerLoony> I also already purged and reinstalled the whole amarok/xine thing.
[11:47] <ErkiDerLoony> Ok.
[11:48] <Tidus> did you get my pm?
[11:48] <ErkiDerLoony> It installed libxine1-ffmpeg and libxine1-misc-plugins.
[11:48] <ErkiDerLoony> Yes.
[12:02] <latitu_> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[12:06] <KR-data> how do I make the tilt wheel function in my mouse work with imwheel
[12:07] <Tidus> latitu_: eth2 must carry a static ip of 192.168.0.1, netmask 255.255.255.0, no gateway
[12:08] <keisangi> hi there
[12:08] <keisangi> i was wondering if there was kde4.1 alpha package for kubuntu .. or svn package ?
[12:08] <Tidus> no 4.1alpha packages exist
[12:09] <keisangi> Tidus, no packages ?
[12:09] <Tidus> none
[12:09] <keisangi> ic ..
[12:10] <TeslaTony> Does anyone know how to set the amount of time KTorrent allows idle peers before kicking them?
[12:31] <francesco_> !it
[12:33] <francesco_> !it
[12:49] <zeeon> hey
[12:50] <kristian__> hi zeeon
[12:51] <zeeon> so i got kde4 up and running got my gfx and so on but for some reason i can't get transparent window in konsole i have no idea i can change the settings and every thing works except for transparency no error message..any ideas?
[12:51] <ere4si> zeeon: try in #kubuntu-kde4 they'll know
[12:51] <fabian_muc> how can i change the XF86AudioRaiseVolume-command?
[12:52] <zeeon> ere4si: ok
[12:52] <SomeOneNamedBob> does kubuntu run on 64bit intel cpus?
[12:53] <kristian__> i have my kubuntu running on 64 amd
[12:54] <stdin> SomeOneNamedBob: it does
[12:54] <kristian__> but i whish i had installes 32 bit version
[12:55] <SomeOneNamedBob> should i download the amd64 to for my intel cpu?
[12:56] <kristian__> think about you really need 64 bit.
[12:56] <stdin> SomeOneNamedBob: the amd64 version is for all 64bit CPUs
[12:56] <SomeOneNamedBob> i need support for more than 4 gb
[12:56] <kristian__> i thing for 32 you got more programms und stuff running
[12:56] <SomeOneNamedBob> of ram
[12:56] <kristian__> ah ok
[12:57] <kristian__> i thing there is just 1 64bit kubuntu so must be for amd ans intel
[12:57] <leroy2> I have tried 64, but now use 32 and it seems to work ok for me
[12:58] <SomeOneNamedBob> does the 32bit version use all 4gb's of ram?
[12:58] <stdin> it will, yes
[12:58] <kristian__> ? dont know
[12:58] <SomeOneNamedBob> xp only shows 3gb, and that sucks
[12:59] <stdin> well XP sucks in general
[12:59] <kristian__> yes  i heard about that
[12:59] <SomeOneNamedBob> hehe
[13:00] <kristian__> thats the reason they sell here in germany just till. 3 gb ram pc
[13:01] <kristian__> here 98 % of pc i see in shops have windows there diffrent in america ?
[13:02] <leroy2> ms still has the market
[13:02] <stdin> I know that have some supermarkets selling cheep linux PCs, and then the's Dell of course
[13:03] <kristian__> ah ok
[13:03] <leroy2> linux has been a long time coming, but ubuntu is getting there
[13:04] <leroy2> i still have to do my taxes on xp
[13:04] <kristian__> hope for linux it not get broken
[13:04] <kristian__> yes same i her here in germany
[13:04] <kristian__> hear
[13:04] <leroy2> that is a problem, for the common user
[13:05] <kristian__> maybe ubuntu has the balls to get big
[13:05] <leroy2> if xp breaks, slap in the recovery disk and renew the system
[13:05] <leroy2> i hope so
[13:06] <leroy2> i am looking foreward to the day that i don't need xp
[13:06] <kristian__> mee too
[13:06] <Dr_willis> I dont need xp now.. :)
[13:07] <ere4si> never needed xp here...
[13:07] <kristian__> i heard apple is ig in america too
[13:07] <leroy2> the apple is a sweet maching
[13:07] <leroy2> machine
[13:07] <Dr_willis> You dont want to get me started on my apple rants...
[13:07] <kristian__> ok
[13:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:08] <kristian__> what is apple rants
[13:09] <kristian__> ?
[13:09] <ubunturos> !irssi
[13:10] <SomeOneNamedBob> has anyone tested amd64 version on a core 2 duo system?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> kristian__,  100% markup on hardware for one.. and thats is where i will stop.. since its Off topic.
[13:11] <curtis> hello
[13:11] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[13:11] <SomeOneNamedBob> nevermind, i saw the answer.
[13:11] <curtis> i have a wireless card that kbuntu is not compatable with
[13:12] <curtis> do you think that later versions will support it?
[13:12] <SomeOneNamedBob> thanks for the help and see ya in linux land soon
[13:12] <Dr_willis> what versions are you refering to?
[13:12] <Dr_willis> 8.4 just came out a few weeks ago
[13:12] <curtis> trl8187b
[13:12] <curtis> like 8.10 and further on
[13:13] <Dr_willis> try 8.10 and see i guess. a lot depends on the specific chipset of the card.
[13:13] <Dr_willis> !wireless
[13:13] <curtis> okay thanks for the help.
[13:25] <rbrunhuber> does auto identify in konversation work?
[13:27] <jussio1> yes
[13:28] <Dr_willis> fabian__,  yes we are all asleep.
[13:29] <fabian__> :-D
[13:29] <fabian__> someone sent me that !night-thing
[13:29] <latitu_> i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[13:30] <fabian__> Dr_willis: do you know, how i can solve that problem?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> I dont use dolphin fabian__  so Not really.
[13:30] <fabian__> i do not want to always go to terminal and mount my drives manually
[13:30] <fabian__> it's not a dolphin-issue
[13:31] <fabian__> it's the same with konqueror
[13:31] <Dr_willis> All this 'idiot proofing' and 'auto-this-and-that' stuff just adds more issues and problems and things to break.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> clarify the problem again to the channel, and perhaps check the forums. would be the best thing.
[13:31] <fabian__> and in my oppinion that "media:/"-thing is only a symptom
[13:31] <fabian__> how does the automount work?
[13:32] <fabian__> maybe i can find the problem by myself
[13:32] <latitu_> help
[13:33] <jussi01> !ics | latitu_
[13:34] <latitu_> jussi01 thanks
[13:34] <jussi01> :)
[13:35] <francesco_> !it
[13:39] <kalib> hi people
[13:39] <kalib> does anyone here has a macbook?
[13:40] <kalib> i was just thinking on it... i wanna buy one... but i wanna know how is going this friendship (macbook & linux)
[13:43] <latitu_> i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[13:43] <Dr_willis> if you want a linux laptop - you might want to check into the Dell laptops that come with Linux
[13:44] <francesco_> !it
[13:45] <Dr_willis> latitu_,  a dhcp server gives out the ips' or you just configure the 2nd machine with a static ip. and dont use a dhcp server
[13:46] <latitu_> Dr_willis ya i want it to be static. but how do i configure eth2. the one conencted to the other pc?
[13:47] <Dr_willis> kde has the various gui network config tools somewhere in the menus.
[13:48] <Dr_willis> I would check out the ip-masquerading howto. and that  !ics url given earlier. I havent done ICS in ages
[13:49] <Dr_willis> looks like the !ics guides says....            sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1       :)
[13:50] <Dr_willis> so for eth2 it would be sudo ifconfig eth2   whatever.ip.you.want
[13:54] <ere4si> Dr_willis: he's in xubuntu now - he's not really listening at all
[13:54] <Dr_willis> Oh well.. im off to eat cake!
[13:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:54] <Dr_willis> 'the cake is a lie!'
[13:54] <ere4si> hehe
[13:55] <christopa> Hello all, can someone help me with a newly installed kubuntu 7.10?
[13:56] <christopa> please?
[13:57] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ask | christopa
[13:57] <ere4si> christopa: you just ask about the prob here
[13:58] <christopa> thanks, well since its new, im gona need all the updates etc. what sudo code should i write in konsole?
[14:00] <BonesolTeraDyne> christopa: do you have a little box with a triangle-shaped sign in your taskbar, near your clock?
[14:00] <BonesolTeraDyne> and by box, I mean a packaging box, not a square.
[14:00] <christopa> oh yes i do bonesolteradyne
[14:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> click it. that's the GUIn updater
[14:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> GUI*
[14:01] <ere4si> christopa: sudo apt-get update   then  sudo apt-get upgrade  to install the latest for 7.10
[14:01] <christopa> i did that, should i click fetch list of updates?
[14:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> yes
[14:01] <christopa> ok
[14:12] <KR-data> how do I make imwheel understand my mouse buttons?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> KR-data,  i found a program/server called 'bntx' (i think) that makes it a lot easier to use extra mouse buttons then imwheel.
[14:15] <Dr_willis> btnx bntx, somthing like that..
[14:15] <Dr_willis> bbl.
[14:16] <v6lur> in an if-then statement, what's the equivalent of "-eq" if i want to match it against text, not number?
[14:18] <dreisinger> For some reason kontact moves certain inbox messages with imap and gmail to my all mail folder, when I move them back to the inbox they get automatically moved back to all mail again, any suggesstions?
[14:20] <christopa> when i run sudo apt-get update it tells me E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[14:20] <christopa> what should i do
[14:20] <christopa> i tried running that commend, but it said that i need superer priviledges
[14:21] <adrian_> ciao
[14:22] <KR-data> christopa, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[14:22] <stdin> christopa: prefix with sudo
[14:23] <v6lur> nevermind, found it already...
[14:28] <christopa> Whats the sudo code to download Flash player, Java, Wine Hq, And firefox? please :)
[14:30] <latitu_> iam sharing internet connection to 2 or 3 computers. how can is assigne ips of my choice. so that no other ip can be used by the other computer(s) and how can i limit each pcs banddwidth? or make a combined bandiwdth limit for 2 computers?
[14:31] <christopa> and if its possible, how to download World of warcraft from konsole.. anyone? :P
[14:32] <christopa> Whats the sudo code to download Flash player, Java, Wine Hq, And firefox? please :)
[14:33] <fabian__> download? or install?
[14:34] <christopa> install
[14:35] <christopa> by the way, if i download something, like adobe reader, how do i install it? if i get the file to my desktop?
[14:37] <BonesolTeraDyne> christopa: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras wine firefox' (without the single quotes, of course)
[14:37] <fabian__> omg
[14:38] <BonesolTeraDyne> christopa: as for your other question, I never use Adobe reader. KDE comes with a perfectly useable PDF reader, kpdf, so I don't worry about it.
[14:38] <fabian__> christopa: there is adept_manager
[14:38] <christopa> what about Flash
[14:38] <christopa> if i want to go to youtube for example, i need flash
[14:38] <BonesolTeraDyne> fabian__: or the 'Add\Remove Programs' link
[14:39] <Leiska> is it possible to emulate cd/dvd with wine?
[14:39] <BonesolTeraDyne> christopa: kubuntu-restricted-extras installs flash, java, and the restricted codecs
[14:39] <fabian__> just go to your "start-menu" (the K-symbol in the lower-left-corner), then "system" then adept package manager
[14:39] <fabian__> BonesolTeraDyne: well i do not like that thing
[14:40] <fabian__> BonesolTeraDyne: i tried to uninstall something and it wanted to uninstall essential parts of my x11
[14:40] <fabian__> BonesolTeraDyne: i must say it wanted to uninstall x11 itself :-D
[14:40] <BonesolTeraDyne> fabian__: did you file a bug report on that? That's a serious issue.
[14:42] <Kiruwa2> That usually only happens if you asked to install a different version of X11 or something (usually indirectly)
[14:42] <fabian__> BonesolTeraDyne: well, it has to do with the dependencies
[14:43] <felicia> hello
[14:43] <christopa> look guys, i installed restricted drivers... but java dont work
[14:43] <christopa> hello felicia
[14:43] <fabian__> BonesolTeraDyne: it seems that X needs i.e. python
[14:45] <BonesolTeraDyne> christopa: You know, now that you mention it, someoen was complaining about that on livejournal. Sorry, I can't help you in that area. I don't use Java in my browser.
[14:45] <christopa> oh ok, can u just tell me where is my Conquerors Plug In Folder?
[14:45] <christopa> how do i access it :P
[14:46] <Kiruwa2> christopa: Settings->Configure Konqueror...
[14:46] <Kiruwa2> You're probably looking for the Java tab
[14:47] <Kiruwa2> (there is a plugins tab, way at the bottom)
[14:48] <ASUS-tek> yoo
[14:54] <christopa> Whats the code to play Encrypted/restricted Dvds?
[14:54] <stdin> you need libdvdcss2
[14:54] <stdin> !dvd
[14:59] <achille> hi i'm looking for the "depot" for have: "make sure that Qt 4.3+ development packages are already installed"
[15:00] <stdin> achille: those are in libqt4-dev
[15:04] <achille> stdin: txh
[15:05] <stdin> *BT-Note* temp ban
[15:06] <jonathan__> hello!
[15:06] <jonathan__> i've a question :)
[15:06] <jonathan__> how can i apply themes to kde?
[15:07] <jonathan__> i downloaded a zip-file, but i didn't find a place where i could select it
[15:07] <stdin> !changethemes
[15:07] <stdin> !changethemes =~ /ubotu/ubottu/
[15:10] <nainef> ubottu has almost every canned response for every problem heh
[15:10] <nainef> it could prolly install the os on its own heh
[15:11] <stdin> !install-my-os
[15:11] <stdin> nope ;)
[15:11] <nainef> heh
[15:11] <nainef> darn
[15:11] <nainef> its just a matter of time though
[15:11] <sacha_> !install | nainef
[15:12] <nainef> omg
[15:12] <nainef> that one is pretty close
[15:12] <sacha_> automate?
[15:12] <stdin> !automate
[15:13] <nainef> whoa
[15:13] <nainef> !kitchen-sink
[15:13] <sacha_> !toaster
[15:13]  * nainef falls outta his chair
[15:13] <jpatrick> !botabuse
[15:14] <nainef> sorry :(
[15:14] <foormea> hi. i think i've found a bug in kubuntu hardy kde 3.5.9... my system language is english, i need french support and chinese support. english and french work like a charm without chinese activated. when i activate chinese: i cannot type accentuated french characters that require a modifier (ex: cannot type ê, it will type ^e), and chinese will only work in KDE apps. if i "im-switch -z <mylocale> -s scim" instead of "-s scim-bridge", then everything wor
[15:14] <foormea> ks fine, but katapult won't work anymore......
[15:14] <foormea> oops sorry for the huge message
[15:15] <foormea> if anyone had had a similar problem before, please tell me ; i've been looking for info on that and couldn't find anything. i might as well report a bug
[15:16] <jhutchins_> foormea: Why would you be typing French characters in Chinese?
[15:16] <foormea> jhutchins: :) no what i meant is that i need the support for the 3 layouts
[15:17] <foormea> okay let me try to re-explain properly, sorry :)
[15:17] <foormea> i need 3 keyboard layouts : french, english, chinese
[15:18] <foormea> if i don't install chinese, then     french and english    work like a charm. can type what i want in the 2 different layouts, the layouts work fine
[15:19] <foormea> if i install chinese support/scim, then, when i want to type french (i mean french, and not type chinese using azerty instead of qwerty...), then i cannot type those 'special' french characters that need a modifier
[15:20] <foormea> if i ""im-switch -z <mylocale> -s scim" (default seems to be " -s scim-bridge" under hardy?), then it works fine again, BUT katapult won't 'receive' anything i type into it
[15:20] <foormea> i hope i'm clearer now :)
[15:21] <foormea> (other problem is: with the default settings, i can only type chinese in kde apps. with the im-switch trick, i can type chinese everywhere)
[15:21] <christopa1> hey guys, i got a old pc, a fujitsu siemens skaleo L, and when i Play Flash objects, Its Very laggy, should i get a new Grafic card ? or is there a Solution to this?
[15:21] <foormea> so basically, i need to change from the default settings (what i have currently, but katapult broken) ; or find a way to repair the default settings
[15:25] <Red_Tear> hmm... can i turn a window? change its angle?
[15:26] <foormea> jhutchins, any idea?
[15:26] <christopa1> hey guys, i got a old pc, a fujitsu siemens skaleo L, and when i Play Flash objects, Its Very laggy, should i get a new Grafic card ? or is there a Solution to this?
[15:31] <v6lur> Red_Tear, on mandriva's metisse, yes. on anything else, no idea.
[15:33] <christopa1> hey guys, i got a old pc, a fujitsu siemens skaleo L, and when i Play Flash objects, Its Very laggy, should i get a new Grafic card ? or is there a Solution to this?
[15:37] <apostol> драсти
[15:37] <apostol> всем
[15:37] <apostol> ))
[15:37] <apostol> Hello all
[15:37] <apostol> ))
[15:37] <tekteen> hi
[15:37] <christopa1> hey guys, i got a old pc, a fujitsu siemens skaleo L, and when i Play Flash objects, Its Very laggy, should i get a new Grafic card ? or is there a Solution to this?
[15:38] <tekteen> christopa1:  that is probably not a graphics card issue
[15:38] <christopa1> what issue is it then?
[15:39] <tekteen> christopa1:  what web browser? are you using hardy?
[15:39] <christopa1> kubuntu 7.10
[15:39] <tekteen> ok and web browser?
[15:39] <christopa1> firefox and konqueror
[15:39] <tekteen> both are laggy?
[15:40] <christopa1> yeh
[15:40] <tekteen> christopa1: are you using up most of your ram? what are the specs of the computer?
[15:41] <christopa1> well its not my pc after all, its a friends of mine, im tryina make it for him... so i dont know but its a really really old pc
[15:41] <christopa1> its got some next I895 intergrated grafic memory i think its something with 64mb :P
[15:41] <christopa1> and the rams pretty low i guess
[15:41] <tekteen> christopa1: flash is a memory hog. It may just be you specs
[15:41] <tekteen> WOW
[15:42] <mkultras> hey i'm trying to install intel 915 graphics module i downloaded from dri.freedesktop.org and it says cannot be compiled without the latest kernel modules
[15:42] <tekteen> are you trying to run kubuntu?
[15:42] <christopa1> so.. u think i should get a new ram and grafic card for it ?
[15:42] <mkultras> anyone know what packages i need to get so i can compile
[15:42] <christopa1> yea
[15:42] <tekteen> christopa1: kubuntu will not run well on 64 megs of ram
[15:42] <christopa1> lolz, so should i upgrade?
[15:42] <tekteen> christopa1: you must be using swap alot
[15:43] <christopa1> what swap do u mean
[15:43] <tekteen> christopa1: yeah... mostly the ram needs upgrading
[15:43] <christopa1> oh oki
[15:43] <tekteen> christopa1: swap is virtual ram on the hard drive
[15:43] <christopa1> oho ki
[15:43] <christopa1> oki'
[15:44] <tekteen> christopa1: nm
[15:44] <tekteen> christopa1: I just re read something you said earlier
[15:44] <christopa1> yes?
[15:44] <tekteen> christopa1: I meant ram on the computer
[15:44] <tekteen> not the graphics card
[15:45] <christopa1> so i should upgrade my ram
[15:45] <tekteen> christopa1: 64mb of computer ram would be terrible
[15:45] <christopa1> i know this is!
[15:45] <tekteen> christopa1: how much ram do you have?
[15:45] <stdin> mkultras: you know it's pre-installed?
[15:45] <christopa1> it is some low ram im not sure how mutch it is
[15:45] <christopa1> but its basically... as low as possible
[15:46] <tekteen> christopa1: ok... the issue is not the graphics card. It should run without any 3d acceleration
[15:46] <christopa1> oh
[15:46] <tekteen> christopa1: I ran flash fine when using the VESA driver
[15:46] <christopa1> :D
[15:47] <tekteen> christopa1: The issue is that flash is a resource hog.
[15:47] <christopa1> well the thingy is, im trying to install WoW on this linux... but i doubt he'll be able to play it
[15:47] <tekteen> christopa1: you need a better computer
[15:48] <christopa1> cant i run WoW on this if i upgrade my grafic card and ram?
[15:48] <tekteen> christopa1: it has to run in wine. Not to mention that WoW is a full 3D game
[15:49] <christopa1> i know
[15:49] <tekteen> christopa1: I think WoW will work as long as you have an ok cpu 780MB of ram and that graphics card
[15:50] <tekteen> christopa1: WoW just needs too much :-)
[15:50] <christopa1> lolz
[15:50] <christopa1> ill just try getting a new computer then
[15:50] <christopa1> thanks alot
[15:50] <tekteen> np
[15:52] <noam_> hey... i'm having trouble with microphone configuration and such. audacity won't record anything ("Error while opening sound device. Please check the input device settings and the project sample rate.") and sound recorder doesn't work either ("Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings.")
[15:55] <massimo> hola
[15:55] <tekteen> hola
[15:55] <massimo_> b
[15:56] <massimo_> qualcuno per favore mi spiega come funziona
[15:56] <tekteen> !es | massimo_
[16:00] <noam_> should i try to install esound?
[16:14] <advanced> !compiz
[16:16] <noam_> coupld you please help? sound recorder says "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." but the microphone does work under wine
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> I got Kubuntu 8.04 installed but can't get the Parallels Tools to work, this is on a Mac.  There is this error: Found xorg version . Installation for xorg.. not found.  Any ideas?
[16:20] <rmeson> hi
[16:20] <ShawnRisk> hi
[16:28] <mistiipu> i have kubuntu os and some windows clients. i have a dsl on my pc and i have shared the internet to another pc by static ip giving. ill soon buy another lan card or a dlink switch if i have to link more computers.
[16:28] <mistiipu> i want a powerfull application (on my linux os only) that can limit bandwidth for the other pcs. (combinely e.g pc1 +pc2= 20k/s or independatly. ) give priorities. and do the same for my computer and my applications like ktorrent , etc. i also want to avoide clients geting the cable and using multiple computers directly from my switch . (static ip limiting and control) . how can i do it?
[16:28] <DexterF> !bugs
[16:29] <DexterF> kdm always comes up with the wrong resolution in 7.10 and sometimes it stays in it when KDE starts.
[16:29] <DexterF> known bug? what to do? how can I edit the kdm res?
[16:33] <BonesolTeraDyne> What's the easiest way to remove OpenOffice without breaking everything? If I "sudo aptitude remove openoffice.org-core", it wants to remove several langage packs.
[16:36] <kaminix_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10251/ Anyone who can help? Hal/policykit problem
[16:39] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ahh topicops arrive
[16:43] <mistiipu> i have kubuntu os and some windows clients. i have a dsl on my pc and i have shared the internet to another pc by static ip giving. ill soon buy another lan card or a dlink switch if i have to link more computers.
[16:43] <mistiipu> i want a powerfull application (on my linux os only) that can limit bandwidth for the other pcs. (combinely e.g pc1 +pc2= 20k/s or independatly. ) give priorities. and do the same for my computer and my applications like ktorrent , etc. i also want to avoide clients geting the cable and using multiple computers directly from my switch . (static ip limiting and control) . how can i do it?
[16:44] <kaminix_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10251/ Anyone who can help? Hal/policykit problem
[16:46] <BluesKaj> mistiipu, take an IT course ?
[16:46] <mistiipu> hm
[16:46] <zeeon> im looking for a performance monitor for kde 4.0 something like MBM to give an idea... any suggestions? something with a little "eye candy" would be nice
[16:47] <Pennycook> mistiipu: Something like this http://blog.kovyrin.net/2006/04/06/5min-guide-to-linux-shaping-htb/ ?
[16:47] <mistiipu> ok
[16:48] <mistiipu> which app can limit bandwidths for client ips as a whole, for my current applications on my box by name, like ktorrent, kopete. and set priorities. for any?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> mistiipu, IP tables is prolly worth looking into
[16:51] <T3> hey guys. despite i hate java, i'm dealing with it these days, and, when i hit the upgrade from 7.10 (and kde3) to 8.04 (kde4), eclipse start crashing everytime it needs to use /usr/bin/java command. Anybody have an idea about what i have to do intending to have java working properly here?
[16:51] <mistiipu> BluesKaj its difficult?
[16:52] <mistiipu> BluesKaj its difficult? thats why easy 3r p apps exist
[16:52] <viperserv2> t3 r u on a t3?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> mistiipu, dunno , I've never tried IPTables, but I do know it works well
[16:53] <T3> i tried with kubuntu eclipse package and, without success, goes to eclipse from eclipse website. no success again. i'm pretty much convinced is java issue
[16:53] <T3> viperserv2: not actually hehe
[16:53] <mistiipu> k
[16:53] <jhutchins_wk> !u
[16:53] <T3> viperserv2: ibm lenovo tp60
[16:54] <Kiruwa2> "government officer"?
[16:54] <Kiruwa2> "government officier*"?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> jhutchins , what about "cuz" etc
[16:55] <andyt> 1337
[16:55] <jhutchins_wk> BluesKaj: Ask ubottu.  cuz for because would be pretty sloppy.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> I use it all the time
[16:56] <BluesKaj> !cuz
[16:56] <BluesKaj> !b/c
[16:56] <jhutchins_wk> Well, it is a conversational contraction, more properly spelled 'cause, but the point is that AOL-speak is discouraged.
[16:57] <mistiipu> BluesKaj and how can i do the combined band limit. ip1+ip2=20k/s  ?
[16:58] <jhutchins_wk> Grr.  Windows wants to re-boot? Fine.  Back to a real OS.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> dunno mistiipu , i suggest reading the man page , in the terminal type ,'  man iptables '
[17:00] <advanced> I need flash player for Mozzilla :(
[17:00] <advanced> but i download sound dont works
[17:01] <mkultras> u have to put the .so file in the plugins directory for mozilla
[17:01] <mkultras> and reload mozilla
[17:01] <mkultras> for flash player advanced
[17:01] <Pennycook> Does anybody know where I can find a .so file for Java 64 bit for Firefox? I can't use Java apps
[17:05] <Tokeiito> i'm editing one of Karamba widgets, it just dont work with Kubuntu cause writen fro Mandriva. How i can get network status, like upload, download speed in console?
[17:09] <zetheroo> why do the kipiplugins not work with the new Gwenview?
[17:13] <louist> hey i'm on ubuntu hardy, how do you install kde4 via terminal?
[17:14] <BonesolTeraDyne> louist: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop" (sans the quotes)
[17:15] <louist> bonesolteradyne:  that will only install the desktop right?  I don't really want a lot of the apps
[17:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> louist: Oh, then sorry. It will install the apps
[17:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> I'm not sure what the core package is
[17:16] <louist> haha no worries
[17:16] <louist> is it kde4-core?
[17:16] <louist> does anybody know how to install the kde4 desktop without apps?  just the core?
[17:17] <BonesolTeraDyne> It's "kde4base" in Gutsy
[17:17] <louist> i'll give that a shot
[17:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> !info kde4base
[17:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> !info kde4-core
[17:18] <louist> yeah it's kde4-core
[17:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> That's probably it
[17:18] <louist> i thought i already tried it.... i guess not
[17:18] <louist> haha alright thanks anyway guys!
[17:18] <Fizzer> iltaa
[17:19] <Fizzer> hello
[17:19] <BonesolTeraDyne> hi
[17:19] <Fizzer> i think i instal kubuntu and i have some questions to ask
[17:20] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ask
[17:20] <Fizzer> ok
[17:21] <Fizzer> first, how will ati radeon work whit kubuntu?
[17:21] <BonesolTeraDyne> Fizzer: Usually depends on the model. However...
[17:21] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ati
[17:22] <Fizzer> thnx
[17:24] <pascalfr> @now
[17:25] <Aw0L> what is it I need to do so that kde prompts for tasks that require root privileges actually ask for the root password instead of the user password?
[17:27] <advanced> !wine
[17:27] <BonesolTeraDyne> Aw0L: Maybe the sudo bot command has somethign.
[17:27] <BonesolTeraDyne> !sudo
[17:27] <zetheroo> anyone?
[17:27] <zetheroo> ﻿why do the kipiplugins not work with the new Gwenview?
[17:28] <advanced> i have problem with wine
[17:28] <advanced> http://obrazok.eu/files/6ztogge20cae8o5mj8nr.png
[17:28] <Mr_Pan> advanced, drink water :D :P
[17:28] <BonesolTeraDyne> advanced: what, exactly, is the problem?
[17:29] <Pennycook> Looks to me like your Wine is opening World of Warcraft. I wouldn't recommend running it.
[17:29] <advanced> colour up :D
[17:29] <advanced> green
[17:29] <BonesolTeraDyne> Okay... *has never played WoW, and never wants to after seeing that screenshot*
[17:30] <advanced> :D
[17:30] <Aw0L> BonesolTeraDyne, there is a file that needs to be edited, but I don't recall which - I dont' think it's /etc/sudoers though
[17:31] <BonesolTeraDyne> Aw0L: probably. I usually just run base installs, so I don't really mess with it.
[17:31] <Aw0L> aaah
[17:31] <BonesolTeraDyne> ah, looks like a netsplit
[17:31] <jussi01> oh yay
[17:31] <emonkey> jep
[17:32] <emonkey> \o/
[17:32] <aasdfas> anyone here uses paltalk or recommend using paltalk? what about skype? are they trying to screw up my speaking skills?
[17:33] <aasdfas> anyone here uses paltalk or recommend using paltalk? what about skype? are they trying to screw up my speaking skills?
[17:33] <jussi01> !repeast | aasdfas
[17:33] <jussi01> !repeat | aasdfas
[17:34] <jussi01> aasdfas: usually its polite to only ask in 1 channel at a time also.
[17:34] <advanced> how to close quickly program ?
[17:35] <jussi01> advanced: most programs use alt+f4
[17:39] <hanedera> I have a /etc/kde3 dir with default configs. however, it does not seem like the settings there are taken into account'!
[17:40] <hanedera> Possibly the reason for that is, env KDEDIRS missing
[17:40] <hanedera> What is the correct place to set this env var for all users?
[17:49] <ASUS-tek> so may ppl comming and going answer his question naa for u all are comming for
[17:56] <Quetzlcoatl> need a little bit help. i want to share a folder from my linux box. i want to be able to read that folder from a win box how do i do that ?
[18:00] <juliojj14> hello, I have a big problem with my DVD in a Vostro 1400, I am not able to activate DMA in it with Ubuntu. The hardware controller is ICHM8
[18:04] <jonathan__> hello!
[18:04] <jonathan__> I#ve a question!
[18:05] <jonathan__> i'm searching for a program that loggs ALL activities on my pc... that means the open and close of windows or the letters that were enteres on my keyboard...
[18:05] <jonathan__> does anyone of you know such a program?
[18:06] <juliojj14> ok, an easier question.. I try to play a list of short movies with mplayer and repeat them all the time with loop 0, how can I do so the player don't do a big stop between movies?
[18:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, but i'm sure the PRC has one.
[18:07] <jonathan__> prc?
[18:17] <_Angelus_> man
[18:18] <_Angelus_> why doesn't linux show webpages good like other operating systems?
[18:18] <_Angelus_> i never figured this in a year using it :?
[18:18] <rgreening> thats browser dependant not linux specific
[18:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> _Angelus_: How so? It's usually based on the rendering engine and fonts, not the OS
[18:18] <_Angelus_> well...
[18:18] <_Angelus_> i use firefox on 3 OS
[18:19] <_Angelus_> they are, Mac OS X , Windows XP , Windows Vista , Linux...
[18:19] <_Angelus_> i meant 4 :p
[18:19] <rgreening> have you got the full suite of fonts (specifically the MSS Core Fonts)
[18:19] <_Angelus_> only on linux webpages show different... on the other OSes it shows good
[18:19] <rgreening> if not, that's prob 100% your prob
[18:19] <BonesolTeraDyne> !info msttcorefonts
[18:19] <_Angelus_> rgreening: try playing dragonfable or adventure quest on linux for example
[18:19] <_Angelus_> :p
[18:20] <rgreening> are they flash? then thats adobes fault
[18:20] <_Angelus_> yeah but again...
[18:20] <_Angelus_> on Mac it shows good, on Winxp and vista too
[18:20] <rgreening> Adobe releases a second rate player for linux
[18:20] <_Angelus_> but on linux no :S
[18:20] <_Angelus_> hmm...
[18:20] <_Angelus_> and i think you are write...
[18:21] <_Angelus_> cause only webpages that contains flash show different from other oses..
[18:22] <mael_> bonjour, j'ai un probleme de password quand je suis dans une console. Quelqu'un peu m'aider svp?
[18:22] <rgreening> Since Adobe Flash is proprietary, not much we can do. If they release a better version for Linux it would be great. As it stands, it's GTK locked and has issues. And not 100% a clone of the won version (AFAIK)
[18:22] <_Angelus_> GTK locked?
[18:22] <_Angelus_> what does that mean?
[18:24] <rgreening> They use GTK specific stuff in the code that doesn't play nice with KDE (at least in my experience), I get random crashes with the plugin in Konqueror for no apparant reason. I believe it has to do with something in GTK and the Adobe embed feature
[18:24] <potty> does ext3 journal metadata by defualt or hournal everything?
[18:24] <living_joke> hey everybody!
[18:24] <BonesolTeraDyne> !fr | mael_
[18:25] <living_joke> may i ask you something guys?
[18:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ask
[18:25] <living_joke> okok :D
[18:26] <_Angelus_> guys
[18:26] <_Angelus_> anyone tried the new beta of Gnash ?
[18:26] <_Angelus_> on kubuntu
[18:26] <_myrtille_> hi, i've got a problem with the tex-plugin for kopete. Should i ask for help here, or is there a specific channel?
[18:26] <living_joke> alright, I'm on a Windows PC but I was actually thinking about migrating to Kubuntu. The problem is that i got a wireless network at home and i fear that my wifi controller card isn't supported by Kubuntu
[18:27] <BunnyRevolution> living_joke: kde
[18:27] <living_joke> kde?
[18:27] <BunnyRevolution> living_joke: sorry wrong nick
[18:27] <living_joke> alright ;)
[18:28] <BonesolTeraDyne> _Angelus_: Gnash is okay, but I don't consider it ready for constant use. Adobe's Flash player still blows it out of the water.
[18:28] <_Angelus_> yeah i tried the alpha BonesolTeraDyne but im reading now that they released the beta version
[18:29] <_Angelus_> still has some missing features, but can play youtube and such
[18:29] <BonesolTeraDyne> _myrtille_: you might want to ask in #kopete
[18:29] <_myrtille_> thx :)
[18:29] <BonesolTeraDyne> _Angelus_: I might give it a shot, then. I haven't played with it since downloading the last alpha.
[18:29] <_Angelus_> yeah me too
[18:29] <_Angelus_> i'll give a try tonight
[18:30] <_Angelus_> maybe it shows nicer webpages on linux
[18:30] <_Angelus_> xD
[18:30] <_Angelus_> laterz for now, gonna go play playstation 2
[18:31] <BonesolTeraDyne> later
[18:31] <living_joke> Can anybody help me?
[18:31] <living_joke> :P
[18:32] <BonesolTeraDyne> living_joke: what kind of wifi card is it?
[18:33] <living_joke> It's called "Netgear rangemax wireless-g 108 pci adapter wpn311"
[18:33] <living_joke> pretty long name, uh? :D
[18:34] <BonesolTeraDyne> yeah, and I don't see it on the WifiDocs wiki page.
[18:34] <living_joke> shit
[18:34] <BonesolTeraDyne> Might be able to use ndiswrapper
[18:35] <living_joke> what does it mean?
[18:35] <BonesolTeraDyne> !ndiswrapper
[18:35] <BonesolTeraDyne> that's not what I thought it would do...
[18:35] <BonesolTeraDyne> ndiswrapper uses the windows driver
[18:36] <living_joke> and does it work?
[18:36] <matthew_> I cannot install vmware on kubuntu, because I do not know which kernel header files package to install.
[18:36] <BonesolTeraDyne> the stuff in that link might help, and it might not. Sadly, I couldn't help you beyond that.
[18:36] <matthew_> Anyone know?
[18:37] <BonesolTeraDyne> Wireless support in linux-in-general is sketchy right now
[18:38] <usamahashimi> How can I install xmms?
[18:39] <BonesolTeraDyne> usamahashimi: "sudo apt-get install xmms" in a konsole window
[18:41] <ubuntu> hi all! how can i set up my wifi in kubuntu? i've an asus 52rl notebook...can anybody help me?
[18:42] <usamahashimi> BonesolTeraDyne: It installed xmms2, a command line
[18:42] <ubuntu> there is an "atheros" card in it
[18:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> !info xmms
[18:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> O_O;
[18:43] <Mr_Pan> ubottu, xmms project is dead in hardy
[18:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> That's just cruel. Who decided to take XMMS out of hardy?
[18:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> Mr_Pan: that's a bot
[18:44] <Mr_Pan> lol :)
[18:44] <Mr_Pan> right
[18:44] <BonesolTeraDyne> Still, that can break several things, and I like XMMS
[18:44] <ubuntu> !wifi
[18:46] <hellotello> can anyone tell me that how can i install xmms in kubuntu 8.04?
[18:47] <ubuntu> how can i set up wifi on my asus laptop?
[18:47] <eagles05> hellotello: sudo apt-get install xmms
[18:47] <eagles05> !games
[18:47] <BonesolTeraDyne> eagles05: XMMS doesn't exist in the hardy reops
[18:48] <eagles05> BonesolTeraDyne: oh
[18:48] <eagles05> !info xmms
[18:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> told you
[18:48] <ubuntu> !atheros
[18:48] <kaminix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/224541  Oh come on, it's happened me three times already... I can't be the only one!
[18:48] <eagles05> BonesolTeraDyne:  could he compil from source
[18:49] <BonesolTeraDyne> eagles05: It might not work. It all depends on weither or not he has the right versions of the needed libs
[18:49] <BonesolTeraDyne> XMMS is very old
[18:49] <eagles05> gptcha
[18:50] <eagles05> gotcha
[18:51] <hellotello> eagles05: xmms is not in repos
[18:51] <p_quarles> the xmms forks are available though: audacious and bmpx
[18:51] <BonesolTeraDyne> isn't there another one?
[18:52] <hellotello> is there anyway to install xmms (even it is not in repos)?
[18:57] <GothicD3vil> hi, can somebody help me with the installation of realplayer?
[18:57] <Freku> why dont use vlc to play rm files
[18:58] <GothicD3vil> because i use realplayer to hear music like from amazon, hottopic and that stuff before i buy a cd
[19:06] <matthew_> What package must I install for linux headers, so I can install software that needs to compile driver modules?
[19:08] <matthew_> there are many such packages listed and I don't have a clue which one I need..
[19:09] <matthew_> The description is the same for all of them
[19:09] <jussi01> matthew_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:10] <matthew_> I will try that.. thank you!
[19:10] <jussi01> matthew_: :)
[19:11] <matthew_> jussi01: it tried to install the same one I installed already--the generic.  Those headers don't work.. cannot compile drivers using them.
[19:12] <jussi01> matthew_: are you sure thats what you are missing?
[19:12] <jussi01> or is the driver you are trying to compile not looking in the right place?
[19:12] <matthew_> jussi01: I am rerunning the vmware installer now, to see the exact error messages...
[19:13] <jussi01> ok
[19:14] <stdin> vmware looks in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build which should be a symlink to the headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:14] <jussi01> matthew_: ^
[19:16] <stdin> and you'll probably have to google "vmware any-any patch" to actually get the damn modules to build anyway (not like vmware haven't had enough time to fix it them selfs already) </grumble>
[19:17] <matthew_> jussi01: oops.. the model built and loaded perfectly, according to the installer... the actually error is: /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/userif.c:636: error: ‘const struct sk_buff’ has no member named ‘h’
[19:17] <razor49_> Bonjour, j'ai un problème et je voudrais quelques informations.
[19:17] <stdin> matthew_: yep see my grumble ^
[19:17] <jussi01> matthew_: I suggest you take stdin's advice
[19:17] <stdin> !fr | razor49_
[19:18] <matthew_> stdin: ok.. thanks..
[19:20] <matthew_> stdin and jussi01: ok, but I noticed exactly such a symlink already exists there.
[19:21] <jussi01> matthew_: go grab the the any-any patch, should fix your problem
[19:23] <mith_> can anybody help me about madwifi?
[19:23] <ScorpKing> mith_: what card do you have and what exactly do you need help with?
[19:26] <mith_> ScorpKing: atheros card, and i can't use my wifi at home
[19:27] <ScorpKing> !wifi
[19:27] <ScorpKing> take a look at that and see if it helps ^
[19:28] <mith_> ScorpKing: i've seen those but doesn't help for me...but one moment a found a good tutor about this
[19:30] <ScorpKing> hmm.. i don't have my laptop close by to check but what does lshw | less show about the card?
[19:33] <ScorpKing> i want to edit the livecd and add some programs. i can't remember the factiod and !remaster is not it. can someone give me a link?
[19:34] <stdin> !remaster
[19:34] <stdin> nope
[19:34] <ek> Anyone here using an EVGA graphics card with an AMD64 version of Kubuntu?
[19:34] <kaminix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/224541  Oh come on, it's happened me three times already... I can't be the only one!
[19:36] <DexterF> guys I'm installing 8.04 on a Celeron/512meg laptop and it takes FOREVER around 95%+ removing a bazillion OOo packages - that normal?
[19:36] <stdin> ScorpKing: try http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility
[19:37] <ek> DexterF: For the most part, yes. I've had some systems take over an hour to install on.
[19:37] <ScorpKing> stdin: ah nice! thanks :)
[19:39] <DexterF> ek: seriusly..? I mean, I installed 7.04 in less than half an hour on an old athlon xp, and what totally weirds me out is that it keeps telling me about how it removes packag.... finished this moment :D
[19:40] <ek> DexterF: Yup. Seriously. In fact, it took over an hour installing on a P4-2.4GHz with 2 gigs of RAM with 7.10.
[19:41] <ScorpKing> kaminix: did you try changing the filename? what does vlc do?
[19:41] <ek> But, 8.04 on the same machine seemed to whiz by.
[19:42] <DexterF> ek: well, this is 8.04 on that laptop. I don't quite get why it *installs* all the OOo stuff and *then* removes it again
[19:42] <ScorpKing> kaminix: launch it from konsole and maybe something will show up
[19:42] <kaminix> ScorpKing: 1) The first filename has no strange characters at all, the one in crash one. 2) The bug only appears a little now and then, and I do not know when. =/ Would've installed the debug packages and stuff if I did
[19:42] <elias> what is the best/appropriate place for env vars for all users?
[19:43] <elias> does kubuntu set the KDEDIRS var?
[19:43] <ScorpKing> kaminix: weird.. still looking at the attachments
[19:43] <stdin> elias: that's set in the startkde script iirc
[19:43] <elias> my /etc/kde3 dir is not looked at by my kde apps.
[19:44] <stdin> elias: what kde apps are you expecting to look there?
[19:44] <elias> kmail
[19:44] <wad> My friend runs debian unstable. He did "apt-get install simutrans", and got a cool game. I tried to get it, but the package doesn't exist. Am I just out of luck until someone make a kubuntu package for it?
[19:44] <kaminix> Thanks ScorpKing, would be nice if this bug could be fixed. =/ It's quite annoying. :p
[19:45] <ScorpKing> kaminix: hehe.. i'm no pro but if i notice something i'll let you know ;)
[19:45] <stdin> elias: no, they look in /usr/share/config.kcfg/ or ~/.kde/share/config/
[19:45] <elias> I do not have kubuntu-desktop installed but some kde apps (kontact, kmail).
[19:45] <stdin> /etc/kde3/ is for some kde globals and KDM
[19:45] <kaminix> ScorpKing: Nice, do you agree with my guess regarding the libs being the cause of problem?
[19:46] <elias> stdin: This used to work. I had a default kmailrc in /etc/kde3
[19:46] <elias> but now the KDEDIRS env var does not seem to be set
[19:46] <stdin> elias: if you want to set a var for all uses /etc/environment is the best place
[19:47] <Boingo> Hello everyone.  It seems that since I upgraded to 8.04 (KDE3.x version) that when I launch k3b that the dvdrom drive no longer functions until I reboot.
[19:47] <elias> could you have a look if it is set for you on your systems?
[19:47] <Boingo> I cannot eject with the button, or with "eject" from terminal.
[19:47] <ScorpKing> kaminix: could be. so far it looks like the file is invalid but the player/libs does not report or fix it. still looking though
[19:47] <Boingo> I have been googling for an hour at this point and am a bit stumped.
[19:48] <kaminix> ScorpKing: The movie file? It played fine when I restarted got back into KDE though.
[19:48] <elias> stdin: I'll try that!
[19:48] <Boingo> The drive works with the button when KDE boots, and can read discs in dolphin, but once I lauchk3b it stops working.
[19:50] <ScorpKing> kaminix: yeah. weird
[19:51] <kaminix> ScorpKing: Yes, that's what puzzles me most. :s Otherwise I'd guess it was just the xine library
[19:52] <ScorpKing> kaminix: i wonder what this is from - kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1)
[19:53] <kaminix> ScorpKing: Thing is, I think there are loads of small errors in those logs which are pretty much harmless. :p
[19:53] <ScorpKing> ah
[19:54] <jmg_> salut
[19:55] <iode> Can someone tell me what the command is in terminal to get the latest version of bitchx?
[19:55] <iode> get something, blah blah
[19:55] <ScorpKing> kaminix: i don't see much else that could cause it. did you try it in vlc? it usually reports errors better from what i've seen
[19:56] <kaminix> ScorpKing: I don't use VLC much, but as I've said, the bug only comes a little now and then. So far no VLC problems.
[19:57] <ScorpKing> kaminix: i see. sorry but i'm out of ideas
[19:57] <iode> Can someone tell me what the command is in terminal to get the latest version of bitchx?
[19:57] <kaminix> ScorpKing:  :(
[19:58] <iode> anyone?
[19:58] <fizzer> hello
[19:59] <fizzer> !theme
[19:59] <ScorpKing> iode: sudo aptitude install bitchx or download and compile the latest source
[19:59] <fizzer> !changethemes
[19:59] <iode> I see
[19:59] <fizzer> hmm
[20:00] <iode> Also, another question
[20:00] <fizzer> i dont found that system preferences anywhere
[20:00] <iode> I installed eggdrop from synaptic, and when I open terminal and type "eggdrop" to run it
[20:00] <iode> I get
[20:00] <ScorpKing> fizzer: press <alt>+<f2> and run kcontrol
[20:01] <Gioacchino> ragazzi ma e' vero che divilinux ha abbandonato definitivamente kde ???
[20:01] <iode> Eggdrop v1.6.18+SSL (C) 1997 Robey Pointer (C) 2006 Eggheads
[20:01] <iode> [14:59] --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.18+SSL (Mon May  5 2008)
[20:01] <iode> [14:59] Tcl error in file '.':
[20:01] <iode> [14:59]
[20:01] <iode> [14:59] * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[20:01] <fizzer> thnx
[20:01] <ScorpKing> !paste | iode
[20:01] <Gioacchino> per passare a xcfe ?
[20:01] <Gioacchino> sorry
[20:02] <fizzer> ScorpKing: then i write sudo system or?
[20:02] <ScorpKing> Gioacchino: language?
[20:02] <ScorpKing> fizzer: no, just kcontrol
[20:02] <fizzer> ok
[20:02] <Gioacchino> sorry... I joined on #kubuntu-it and I not understand that it send me here..
[20:03] <fizzer> ScorpKing: thnx alot
[20:03] <hanedera> was known as elias before. tried to set KDEDIRS and it is there, but still the configs are not read.
[20:03] <fizzer> btw why you guys dont got channel in quakenet?
[20:03] <ScorpKing> fizzer: you're welcome :)
[20:03] <ScorpKing> fizzer: i kinda like this one here but you'll have to ask the ops ;)
[20:04] <fizzer> ok
[20:06] <fizzer> ScorpKing: what is best plase to find themes
[20:06] <ScorpKing> fizzer: www.kde-look.org
[20:06] <fizzer> ty
[20:06] <ScorpKing> yw
[20:07] <ScorpKing> fizzer: there is also www.kde-apps.org btw
[20:10] <fizzer> why there is no theme file in themes what i try download :/
[20:11] <DexterF> what's it with "GDebi"? is that usable? I just treid to show a friend how to use a non-repos package and GDebi sits at 0% and stalls
[20:12] <mefisto__> is the non-repos package intended for ubuntu? where did you get it?
[20:13] <fizzer> ScorpKing:  do i need to download that kdm theme manager ?
[20:13] <fizzer> or
[20:13] <ScorpKing> fizzer: it makes things easier
[20:13] <fizzer> ok
[20:13] <fizzer> i download it now
[20:14] <DexterF> mefisto__: Opera9.27 for ubuntu 8.04, known to work
[20:14] <froud> Anyone have a solution to reading dvd-rw mini discs finalized from a sony camcorder?
[20:15] <DexterF> froud: hmm... cinelerra..? kino...?
[20:16] <fizzer> ScorpKing: do you us quakenet ?
[20:16] <jimmy51vinsky> i'm wanting to compile/build stuff under kubuntu 8.04.  what pacakges do i need to install?  i've already got build-essential, gawk, ncurses-dev, bison, texinfo
[20:16] <ScorpKing> fizzer: no
[20:16] <fizzer> ok
[20:16] <ScorpKing> jimmy51vinsky: it depends on what you need to compile
[20:16] <fizzer> well soon i go wach ice hockey so, i think tomorrow i come back here and ask some questions again :P
[20:17] <froud> DexterF: Hmmm, need to be able to mount it before you can use any app
[20:17] <jimmy51vinsky> trying to compile binutils 2.17
[20:17] <froud> DexterF: problem is I cannot mount it
[20:17] <fizzer> that kdm theme manager downloading wont work its jsut gives me error
[20:18] <dotancohen> Can the old kcontrol still be found in KDE 4.x, or just the Mac OS X lookalike?
[20:18] <mefisto__> DexterF: I installed opera from repos. I have "deb http://archive.canonical.com hardy partner" in my sources.list
[20:18] <PhilRod> dotancohen: I think it's still there. What does Alt+F2 -> kcontrol give you?
[20:19] <dotancohen> !PhilRod: It gives me the mac lookalike
[20:19] <dotancohen> @ubuttu: no worries
[20:19] <jimmy51vinsky> ScorpKing:  trying to compile binutils 2.17
[20:19] <papat> hi, I can't see icons in my desktop in one user. If I tell kubuntu to put an app icon onto the Desktop, it works, but the former stuff I had does not show. Any ideas?
[20:20] <papat> (kubuntu Hardy)
[20:20] <ScorpKing> jimmy51vinsky: do you get errors about missing libs?
[20:20] <papat> (kde4)
[20:20] <ScorpKing> !kde4
[20:21] <jimmy51vinsky> ScorpKing:  here is my output:  http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5466
[20:22] <jimmy51vinsky> ScorpKing:  it looks good to me until line 261.  Then i get warned to get texinfo (which i have already installed)
[20:22] <crweb> I've just installed kubuntu 8.04 and updated. Now everytime I open up dolphin i get: The desktop entry file (... amarok_addaspodcast.desktop  has an invalid menu entry as addAsPodcast
[20:23] <crweb> this happens 20-30 times each time I want to select or right click a file.
[20:23] <crweb> or even if i just click the white background
[20:23] <mefisto__> DexterF: if you want to so your friend how GDebi works, you can search for another ubuntu .deb at http://www.getdeb.net
[20:24] <mefisto__> *show
[20:24] <ScorpKing> jimmy51vinsky: if you didn't modified a `.texi' or `.texinfo' file it should be ok.
[20:24] <jimmy51vinsky> ScorpKing:  you mean the compile worked?  The errors at the bottom scare me
[20:25] <ScorpKing> jimmy51vinsky: i'm not 100% sure but i get that when i compile stuff and it still works
[20:25] <mefisto__> crweb: rename or remove /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[20:26] <mefisto__> crweb: that is, rename it to amarok_addaspodcast.desktop.backup or something, in case you find you need it
[20:26] <crweb> mefisto__: ok thanks
[20:28] <ScorpKing> stdin: btw, this is the link i was looking for - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization - can you add a factiod (!remaster) for that please?
[20:28] <stdin> !remaster
[20:29] <stdin> !remastering is <alias> remaster
[20:29] <stdin> err
[20:29] <crweb> I also have this problem that if my system is under any load at all, no matter how small firefox stops responding until all work is done.
[20:30] <stdin> !no remastering is <alias> remaster
[20:30] <stdin> silly bot
[20:30] <_dewd> firefox under hardy sux anyway white pages are green :-S
[20:30] <crweb> its a core 2 duo E6700 with 6 gigs of PC1066.. shouldn't ever hesitate.
[20:30] <_dewd> does anyone have that white = green problem with firefox under hardy
[20:30] <stdin> nope
[20:31] <_dewd> had the same problem with iceweasel under gutsy
[20:31] <stdin> is about:blank green too?
[20:31] <hanedera> what I am still batteling with is to get KDE read /etc/kde3 for default configs. having a env var KDEDIRS="/etc/kde3" does not seem to do the trick.
[20:31] <_dewd> yes
[20:31] <crweb> I don't have white = green issue.  Only issue i see is firefox not redrawing its window if I'm doing any disc i/o
[20:31] <stdin> how about any white graphics?
[20:32] <_dewd> anyway when I type that it doesn't stay in the url thingy
[20:32] <stdin> it won't about:blank is the default empty page
[20:32] <djdarkman> a friend of mine had gutsy then he upgraded it to hardy and because of the new kernel he can`t use his PC because it`s for some strange reason won`t work, he filed a bug with a kernel log, and they responded that it`s not a bug
[20:32] <_dewd> also some pages are green when they should be white
[20:32] <djdarkman> this kind of doesn`t make sense to me
[20:32] <crweb> djdarkman: system is to slow to use?
[20:33] <_dewd> I guess when white is not specified as background it defaults to green
[20:33] <djdarkman> crweb: system doesn`t boot
[20:33] <_dewd> google's white is just white
[20:33] <djdarkman> minimal console and nothing more (not bash that would be luxury)
[20:33] <_dewd> I had the same problem with iceweasel under gutsy
[20:33] <crweb> I thought my problem with firefox was: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188226   but i've fixed this and it still won't respond
[20:34] <djdarkman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/226965
[20:34] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks. can you take a look at this and add it there maybe? ;) http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[20:34] <_dewd> thought it was the use flags or something
[20:34] <djdarkman> don`t understand this, why is it not a bug?
[20:34] <_dewd> also fldigi's waterfall is not working after the upgrade to hardy
[20:35] <_dewd> really no clue how to fix it
[20:35] <_dewd> not easy to find on google as well firefox +green +white + problem or something doesn't lead to an solution
[20:36] <_dewd> perfectly reproduceable on two systems with different procs etc
[20:36] <djdarkman> I mean If it`s clearly visible that your system doesn`t even boot with a kernel and works with the previous version, why it`s considered not a bug but a support question?
[20:36] <_dewd> weird and _very_ irritating
[20:36] <stdin> !remaster > ScorpKing
[20:37] <crweb> djdarkman: there could be many things that are also incorrect
[20:37] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks again :)
[20:37] <stdin> np :)
[20:37] <DexterF> where do I enabled mouse gestures for konq?
[20:37] <DexterF> -d
[20:37] <crweb> djdarkman: example, one kernel has working nvidia driver buit, the other does not makes it look like it didn't boot but it did, etc
[20:37] <crweb> djdarkman: i think it is reasonable to move the topic to support to discuss and locate the real issue, so the real bug can be found
[20:38] <djdarkman> crweb: but it boots into a minimal shell(busybux i think)
[20:38] <crweb> djdarkman: exactly.  doesn't sound like a kernel issue
[20:39] <djdarkman> but what`s got to be the problem if even bash can`t start?
[20:39] <crweb> djdarkman: have to locate the actual bug before the bug can be fixed and as the bug report says this should be done through support.
[20:40] <crweb> djdarkman: there are to many problems to list that "could" be the actual problem
[20:40] <ere4si> djdarkman: is it the 386 kernel you're using that won't work? - di you have a generic kernel to boot with?
[20:40] <ere4si> *do
[20:40] <djdarkman> ere4si: generic kernel
[20:40] <ere4si> k
[20:41] <_dewd> so noone has an green about:blank in ff ?
[20:41] <crweb> djdarkman: i'm just trying to offer you an answer as to why they say its not a bug currently.  I don't have answer to actual issue.
[20:41] <_dewd> crappy hardy :-(
[20:41] <djdarkman> I understand
[20:41] <crweb> _dewd: indeed.
[20:42] <crweb> _dewd: i wish kubuntu didn't have to live on top of the flailing of the ubuntu team.
[20:42] <crweb> not sure where else they would live though ;)
[20:42] <ASUS-tek> lol
[20:42] <_dewd> is it possible to downgrade ?
[20:42] <ASUS-tek> ??
[20:42] <_dewd> 2 programs I really need just don't work
[20:43] <ASUS-tek> which ones
[20:43] <crweb> well, for sure firefox
[20:43] <_dewd> that and I don't have an fucking capital I when I type I
[20:43] <stdin> !language | _dewd
[20:43] <ASUS-tek> ok clean install ubuntu
[20:44] <ASUS-tek> cnweb u ther or u just vanished
[20:44] <crweb> ? i'm here
[20:44] <jussi01> !u | ASUS-tek
[20:44] <ASUS-tek> try formatign and try installing it clean
[20:45] <crweb> ASUS-tek: this has only been installed for 15 minutes
[20:45] <crweb> same for this time, the time before that, and before that too ;)
[20:45] <crweb> firefox is responsive and works great in 7.10, and in 8.04 any i/o load brings firefox to its knees.
[20:45] <ASUS-tek> ok try using opean
[20:45] <crweb> and i mean *any*
[20:45] <ASUS-tek> opera *
[20:46] <crweb> which isn't part of ubuntu ;)
[20:46] <ASUS-tek> use opera naa
[20:46] <mefisto__> I don't have any of these problems with firefox in hardy
[20:46] <ASUS-tek> lol install it its nice me to now on opera
[20:46] <ASUS-tek> there might be soem hard ware config
[20:46] <ASUS-tek> it happends
[20:47] <attila_> Can't change my intel 845 GCard from i810 driver. Any help would be appreciated (n00b here)
[20:47] <ASUS-tek> crweb
[20:47] <crweb> yes?
[20:47] <ASUS-tek> install and use opera its a nice software i have been using opera since 4 yrs
[20:47] <ASUS-tek> and it rocks
[20:47] <crweb> sorry, I'm an open source user.
[20:47] <ASUS-tek> lol i thought about that
[20:48] <crweb> and that doesn't solve my complaint about ubuntu ;)
[20:48] <ASUS-tek> ok then use konqurer then or kmelen
[20:48] <mefisto__> that ubottu nitpicking about U not being a pronoun, it has a spelling error.
[20:48] <ASUS-tek> kmeleon
[20:48] <ASUS-tek> or just wait for am update
[20:48] <ASUS-tek> an *
[20:49] <ASUS-tek> crweb u developer
[20:49] <crweb> whoops, worng command ;)
[20:49] <ASUS-tek> hahah
[20:50] <ASUS-tek> y u r compelling ur self to open source only
[20:50] <crweb> ASUS-tek: yes, i'm an embedded qt developer
[20:50] <ASUS-tek> what is qt now
[20:50] <ASUS-tek> me motor vehical engineer age22
[20:50] <ASUS-tek> heheh
[20:51] <FFForever> how do i install keypassx
[20:51] <FFForever> ?
[20:51] <crweb> ASUS-tek:  qt is the toolkit kde/kubuntu is based on
[20:51] <ASUS-tek> ok sounds kool
[20:51] <ASUS-tek> i dont know much but hope u get ur problem solved
[20:52] <stdin> ASUS-tek: y, r and u are not words, please use words
[20:52] <ASUS-tek> u personally dont know ur other friends using the same thing
[20:52] <ASUS-tek> nope i wont
[20:52] <stdin> this is not AOL, sorry
[20:52] <ASUS-tek> stdin
[20:53] <ASUS-tek> but what differece it make
[20:53] <ASUS-tek> u can understand right
[20:53] <mefisto__> ASUS-tek: it's hard to read
[20:53] <crweb> you are much harder to read
[20:53] <ASUS-tek> hehehh
[20:53] <stdin> it will make us take you seriously and no, it 's not easy to understand
[20:54] <ASUS-tek> but i dont wnat be be serious this one of the lots of thing i do
[20:54] <mefisto__> ASUS-tek: I'll still take you seriously, but I won't like you
[20:54] <mefisto__> :P
[20:54] <ASUS-tek> :D
[20:54] <stdin> 15 7h15 3a5y 2 r3ad?
[20:54] <ASUS-tek> american ppl are sure strange
[20:54] <ASUS-tek> :P
[20:55] <stdin> use real words if you want to interact with real people
[20:55] <ASUS-tek> slience at last
[20:55] <ASUS-tek> humm.. i am a lazy
[20:55] <ASUS-tek> and very lathargic
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> u all developer by the way
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> is there any one desides taht
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> that *
[20:56] <stdin> syntax error near: "all"
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> heheh
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> :P
[20:56] <ASUS-tek> :D
[20:57] <ASUS-tek> is ther any one in computer hardware
[20:57] <andyt> !qq
[20:57] <ASUS-tek> using ubuntu
[20:57] <ASUS-tek> with thine clients
[20:57] <stdin> if you were in computer hardware, it'd have to be big hardware or a very small person
[20:57] <ASUS-tek> thin *
[20:58] <stdin> !ltsp
[20:58] <ASUS-tek> lol am haivng poor english understanding skils i cant or didnt understand what u just typed
[20:58] <ASUS-tek> ok and udottu
[20:59] <Tecumseh> hi guys, I have a major problem with k3b. It is unable to finalize the dvd's I'm trying to burn
[20:59] <ASUS-tek> have u tryed it on mesh networking
[21:00] <ASUS-tek> kool man @ubottu those articals were nice
[21:00] <ASUS-tek> u know more info about then
[21:00] <stdin> ASUS-tek: ubottu dones't know anything, it's a computer program
[21:01] <ASUS-tek> ok super kool
[21:01] <ASUS-tek> stdin thx telling me
[21:01] <ASUS-tek> stdin what else u doing besides developing software
[21:02] <stdin> today, fixing broken software mostly. like that bot there
[21:02] <ASUS-tek> ok related to firefox i guess
[21:03] <ASUS-tek> i was asking do u all in to stock markets , commditys
[21:03] <ASUS-tek> other open source related activitys
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> like promoting at school level
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> high school level
[21:04] <stdin> it's better if you ask non-support questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> telling teacher s to use linux
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> hahah
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> i am very new in irc
[21:04] <ASUS-tek> i jsut starting using it today
[21:05] <stdin> just click on the channel name and you'll join it, or type in /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <ASUS-tek> we all ahve lan here in MUmbai we dont need irc and all
[21:05] <Tecumseh> could someone help me with the burninng issue, since I have installed Hardy I can't burn cd's or dvd's anymore. Hardware and media hasn't changed
[21:05] <ASUS-tek> i might the first person doing that eating u all ppls head
[21:05] <ASUS-tek> stdin he is asking u some thing
[21:06] <ASUS-tek> u the developer naan
[21:06] <stdin> ASUS-tek: he's asking the channel, and I don't work on k3b and I don't burn many disks
[21:06] <stdin> now if you want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to do it
[21:06] <ASUS-tek> ok dude kool dont get angry
[21:06] <crweb> ASUS-tek: this is more of a public forum for discussion
[21:07] <crweb> discussion & support of issues
[21:07] <ASUS-tek> i didnt get u
[21:07] <ASUS-tek> ok humm.. but i find u ppl every less active here
[21:07] <ASUS-tek> most of then inactive
[21:07] <ASUS-tek> them*
[21:07] <stdin> this is #kubuntu, the official Kubuntu support channel, for non-support related discussion please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <hanedera>  I don't get my KDE apps to read KDEDIRS=/etc/kde3 for default preferences.
[21:08] <ASUS-tek> what is that
[21:08] <Tecumseh> I must agree to that ASUS-tek, I have asked the same question a couple of days in a row now
[21:08] <crweb> ASUS-tek: everyone has their own specialties, if someone sees the answer to something they know, they reply
[21:08] <ASUS-tek> ya i know what happen arround here all this kind of places i am here for time pass
[21:09] <froud> sigh ... anyone know how to read mini-rw finalized by a sony handcam?
[21:09] <stdin> ASUS-tek: then join #ubuntu-offtopic, it's more active there
[21:09] <ASUS-tek> i will learn new psychology  reated thing
[21:09] <ASUS-tek> u there
[21:09] <ASUS-tek> stdin
[21:10] <ASUS-tek> say fast man
[21:10] <stdin> I'm everywhere
[21:10] <ASUS-tek> its 2 oclock in the morning here
[21:10] <ASUS-tek> ok i am also comming in off topic also
[21:10] <T3> after upgrade to hardy, i'm facing problems with encoding when using arrows in vi/vim. i tried reinstalling vim (vim-common, vim, etc), but still have problems with
[21:10] <T3> any guess?
[21:10] <djouallah> hello, i have a small problem, adapt don't fetch update from the internet
[21:12] <ASUS-tek> stdin am to in offtopic
[21:15] <mefisto__> djouallah: have you tried changing download server in adept > manage repositories ?
[21:16] <DexterF> laptop (Toshiba Satellite L40-170, wifi chip unknown)  - what are the basic steps to configure wifi?
[21:16] <djouallah> mefisto__:  will try now
[21:16] <ASUS-tek> stdin
[21:17] <ASUS-tek> yoo hail victoria
[21:17] <ASUS-tek> :P
[21:20] <ASUS-tek> hail victoria
[21:20] <ASUS-tek> :P
[21:21]  * nainef notes that downioadling packages seems slower today.....
[21:21] <djouallah> mefisto__:  i changed but nothing, is there a way to use a command line
[21:21] <the__doctor__> anyone happen to know why everything in WINE shows up black and unreadable?
[21:22] <nainef> !wine
[21:22] <nainef> right? :)
[21:23] <nainef> the__doctor__ (love your show by the way) but if you cannot find your answer here trey #wine channel
[21:23] <mefisto__> djouallah: sudo apt-get update  (but make sure you close adept first) and then, sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:23] <the__doctor__> nainef: cheers :)
[21:24] <nainef> good luck, wine is very cool....
[21:24] <ASUS-tek> yoooo
[21:24] <mefisto__> wine is ok, but there are no good apps for it
[21:25] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, that depends on what you want to run
[21:25] <djouallah> hm apt-get update has erros can't fetch files ( i am using proxy to acces the net)
[21:25] <mefisto__> BluesKaj: I was trying to make a joke. It's a common complaint you hear about linux
[21:26] <ubuntu> alguien ke sepa spanish
[21:26] <BluesKaj> if you mean games as good apps , then I guess you're outta luck
[21:26] <_myrtille_> !es
[21:26] <BluesKaj> !es
[21:26] <ccc4> im a newbiee can any one help me download windows live messeneger
[21:26] <Nitro> what libs will I need to change the qt theme?
[21:26] <Nitro> (I'm not using ubuntu, but I wish to change the qt theme)
[21:26] <potty> wens hardy getting updates?
[21:26] <BluesKaj> ccc4, dunno if there's a linux version
[21:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ccc4: pidgin.
[21:27] <ccc4> blueskaj do u use a msn
[21:27] <BluesKaj> pidgin might run it
[21:27] <Daisuke_Ido> or kopete, if you're so inclined.
[21:27] <Daisuke_Ido> both work fine with messenger
[21:27] <ccc4> i use wine ma mate did it 4 me
[21:27] <BluesKaj> I use kopete for IMs
[21:27] <Nitro> ccc4: I'd recommend emesene
[21:28] <ccc4> nitro how do i get it but i heard live messenger is better
[21:28] <Nitro> ....
[21:28] <Daisuke_Ido> Nitro: they've made some pretty significant advances lately, haven't they?
[21:28] <Nitro> emesene? indeed.
[21:28] <Nitro> it's a really active project atm.
[21:28] <Nitro> a lot more active than I thought :--o
[21:28] <ccc4> not suree is there a video about emessne
[21:28] <Nitro> ..
[21:28] <Daisuke_Ido> it's an instant message program
[21:28] <Nitro> ccc4: in linux, with packages it's really easy to install and uninstall things
[21:28] <Daisuke_Ido> what good is a video?
[21:28] <Nitro> there's no problem in installing and removing it afterwords
[21:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i mean really...
[21:29] <Nitro> ccc4: are you using ubuntu or kubunt?
[21:29] <ccc4> kubunto
[21:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ccc4: live messenger is only better if you like (pardon the language) bloated crapware
[21:29] <potty> is kde 4 stable?
[21:29] <Nitro> I assume apt-get works on kde?
[21:29] <ccc4> IM NOT USED TO KUBNTO OR UBUNTO I  JUST GOT OFF WINDOWS XP
[21:29] <Nitro> ccc4: calm down.
[21:29] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa there pardner, no need for the caps
[21:30] <maduser> potty: kde4 is uasable
[21:30] <ccc4> lol u lot think im shoutin im not
[21:30] <ccc4> lol
[21:30] <Nitro> Daisuke_Ido: what's the packages manager for kde?
[21:30] <Nitro> adept?
[21:30] <maduser> yes
[21:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Nitro: if you're CLI oriented, you can use apt-get, or adept if you like crashiness :)
[21:30] <ccc4> is jus i feel usless with kubntoo i dnt know any codes
[21:30] <Nitro> no, I mean.
[21:30] <Nitro> I use the command line really often
[21:30] <Nitro> I'm talking about ccc4
[21:30] <Daisuke_Ido> i'd stick with synaptic for a gui
[21:31] <Nitro> mmm.
[21:31] <Daisuke_Ido> but adept is already there and installed :)
[21:31] <Nitro> well, sudo apt-get install emesene
[21:31] <ccc4> nitro: wha u got ubutno or kubunto
[21:31] <Nitro> neither
[21:31] <ccc4> k ill try it
[21:31] <Nitro> I got Ubuntu.
[21:31] <Nitro> do that.
[21:31] <Nitro> it's good imo.
[21:31] <ccc4> ok thanks
[21:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Nitro: how is it for file transfers?  i know pidgin's a bit slow
[21:31] <hellhound> does anyone know why i cannot change the icon theme in openoffice?
[21:31] <Nitro> Daisuke_Ido: usually that doesn't depend on the software
[21:32] <Nitro> that depends mostly on your tubes and M$ tubes.
[21:32] <ccc4> nitro it says
[21:32] <ccc4> it couldnt find pacake emesene
[21:32] <Daisuke_Ido> Nitro: it does, though.  the protocol isn't documented for the new versions, making pidgin's implementation quite slow
[21:32] <Nitro> ccc4: in that case, hang on
[21:32] <ccc4> k
[21:32] <Nitro> strange. it should be.
[21:33] <ccc4> im using shell konsole
[21:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's in the repos, i just installed it...  uni/multiverse?
[21:33] <Nitro> yeah.
[21:33] <ccc4> well it says
[21:33] <ccc4> E: Couldn't find package emesene
[21:33] <Nitro> hm.
[21:33] <Nitro> well.
[21:33] <Nitro> that's not a problem, hang on
[21:33] <ccc4> ok
[21:34] <djouallah> adapt can't access the net ?
[21:35] <nainef> anyone ever use PCSX2?
[21:35] <zeeon> this maybe a stupid question but does kubuntu/kde-4 come with a firewall of sorts im trying to download the 32 bit version of kubuntu but im not getting any incomming connections
[21:35] <ccc4> nitro: 1 more question how doo i find my usb lead i cant seem to find it i plucked my ipod in and i dnt find it
[21:36] <Nitro> hmm.
[21:36] <ccc4> help ... :-(
[21:36] <Nitro> is the file storage mode enabled for the ipod?
[21:36] <ccc4> not only for ipod even a normal usb lead dont work
[21:37] <Nitro> ccc4: about emesene, do "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:37] <Nitro> without the "
[21:37] <Daisuke_Ido> zeeon: there's a firewall but no rules enabled by default, check your port forwarding
[21:37] <ccc4> there aint the
[21:37] <Nitro> then, add "deb http://apt.emesene.org/ ./" to the bottom of the file
[21:37] <ccc4> ok
[21:37] <Nitro> then, after you've done that and saved
[21:38] <Nitro> do "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get install emesene"
[21:38] <zeeon> Daisuke_Ido: i did its forwarded as i it should in my router...
[21:38] <ccc4> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-chris" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[21:38] <ccc4> Error: "/tmp/kde-chris" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[21:38] <ccc4> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-chris" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[21:38] <Daisuke_Ido> zeeon: no clue then, but unless you've set up firewall rules, that's not what's stopping it
[21:38] <DexterF> ok, seems I got a laptop here with internal RTL8187B via USB, so it doesn't show up in lspci. now - how do I conf thsi thing in 8.04?
[21:39] <Nitro> ccc4: sudo apt-get update isn't working?
[21:39] <zeeon> anyway to find out whats stopping it?
[21:39] <ccc4> nitro the update worked
[21:39] <ccc4> but hte intall didnt
[21:39] <Nitro> :>
[21:39] <Nitro> hmm
[21:39] <Nitro> that's strange
[21:40] <Daisuke_Ido> Nitro: and please, recommend kdesudo instead of sudo for gui apps - reason being that sudo uses root preferences, kdesudo uses the user preferences - especially if editing files in the home directory, using suo can *really* screw up permissions.
[21:40] <ccc4> thanks for your help
[21:40] <Nitro> try "sudo adept install emesene"
[21:40] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo*
[21:40] <Nitro> mkey.
[21:40] <nainef> shouldn't netstat show all connections?
[21:40] <ccc4> dont work
[21:40] <Nitro> :/
[21:40] <Nitro> odd, what's the error?
[21:40] <ccc4> it wont read it dont work
[21:40] <Nitro> won't read?
[21:40] <ccc4> nitro how long u been using kubunto
[21:41] <Nitro> did you do "kdesudo adept install emesene"?
[21:41] <Nitro> ccc4: less than 3 hours.
[21:41] <ccc4> soo u are a pure genius lol
[21:41] <Nitro> ccc4: however, I've been using ubuntu for several years
[21:41] <ccc4> K
[21:41] <Nitro> I can't stand kde
[21:41] <Nitro> :P
[21:41] <ccc4> lol
[21:41] <ccc4> soo do u know python
[21:41] <zeeon> ok got it working now apparently ktorrent is a bit slow to register new settings :)
[21:41] <ccc4> and rubin or java script
[21:42] <ccc4> nitro my friend uses ubunto aswell
[21:42] <Nitro> some very very basic python
[21:42] <Nitro> for instance, print() :--o
[21:42] <ccc4> lol nitro i dnt knoww a thing im learning it
[21:42] <Nitro> :>
[21:42] <Nitro> well, it's strange that it won't install
[21:42] <Nitro> could you pastebin the error you get?
[21:43] <Nitro> www.pastebin.org
 Error: "/tmp/kde-chris" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0
[21:43] <dasp> 1
[21:43] <dasp> проверка связи
[21:43] <ccc4> wha is paste bin ??
[21:44] <dasp> всем привет
[21:44] <Nitro> pastebin is a pin for pasting errors, logs, text, code, cookies you name it.
[21:44] <dasp> недавно перешел на платформу lunix
[21:44] <Nitro> regarding your error, I've never had that problem so I don't know a solution
[21:45] <dasp> и есть вопрос, у меня в вернем углу окон пропали кнопки, закрыть, востановить
[21:45] <Daisuke_Ido> !ru | dasp
[21:45] <ccc4> nitro ok
[21:45] <dasp> !ru
[21:45] <ccc4> nitro where you from?
[21:46] <DexterF> any chance of getting an rtl8197 wifi nic to work in 8.04?
[21:47] <ccc4> Nitro: u there?
[21:47] <nosrednaekim> !realtek
[21:47] <dasp> !help
[21:49] <BluesKaj> !ru | dasp
[21:49] <jose> hola
[21:50] <dasp> я просто не знаю как правильно поставить вопрос
[21:50] <jose> hola
[21:51] <jose> quisiera formetear el disco que tenia con windows a ext3 como lo ago
[21:51] <_myrtille_> hola :)
[21:51] <_myrtille_> !es
[21:51] <BluesKaj> dasp, Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[21:55] <raymears> hey, people. i have a non-kubuntu related issue; it's crontab related. can anyone offer me some assistance?
[21:56] <raymears> i have a script in /etc/crontab and it just doesn't get executed. even though it has the right permissions and everything
[21:59] <raymears> oh, screw me. i'm such an idiot:D the permissions weren't right after all. thanks anyways...
[22:06] <ubuntu> I just installed kubuntu to an usb hd. I did not install the bootloader, because I was afraid that it would put it on the internal hd. Now I want to install the boot loader on the first usb hd. How do I do this?
[22:07] <udi> can anyone help me to set up a parallel/local printer as a network printer for WINDOWS machines on my lan?
[22:09] <Plummet> sorry, can't help you udi.  i'm installing linux for the first time (windows native), is there anything i should keep in mind?
[22:09] <JoshOvki> udi: hardy or gutsy?
[22:09] <udi> hardy
[22:10] <udi> should really be called Hardly
[22:10] <Plummet> is hardy heron worse?
[22:10] <jpatrick> !install | Plummet
[22:11] <JoshOvki> just different, im using hardy with kde4 so its very different to do stuff
[22:11] <udi> no-- worst
[22:11] <udi> (at least IMHO)
[22:11] <Plummet> why do you think its so bad
[22:11] <bipolar> Hardy has been much better for me then Gutsy was.
[22:12] <mefisto__> this discussion happens every six months
[22:12] <udi> UPGRADE failed; Installed from the CD-- I am having a lot of problems
[22:12] <udi> for instance-- SAMBA does not seem to work
[22:12] <udi> printer installation takes for ever
[22:12] <udi> Thunderbird does not fire up the browsers when I click on a url
[22:12] <Daisuke_Ido> mefisto__: and i say the same thing every six months - there's always some grumpy people that are extremely vocal about issues that affect a very small subset of users.
[22:12] <udi> etc. etc.
[22:12] <DexterF> did the mirrors just die? can't update anymore
[22:13] <udi> suddenly it decided to switch itself to 640X480.... need I go on?
[22:14] <JoshOvki> udi: seems like your having awfull luck with it
[22:14] <Daisuke_Ido> udi: so go back to gutsy, it's still supported, you did a clean install from cd anyway, it's not going to kill you.
[22:15] <udi> and every 6 months I find some clever guy who is telling me why I should not point out difficulties which an innocent user discovers through using the systtem as it was meant to be used
[22:16] <mefisto__> DexterF: I doubt they all died. you could try a different mirror
[22:16] <udi> I made a backup of my HOME directory, so all the setup files are available, and I am still having a lot of trouble
[22:17] <mefisto__> udi: maybe that's the problem? have you tried creating a new user and logging in with that?
[22:18] <Daisuke_Ido> all the "setup files"?
[22:20] <Daisuke_Ido> udi: settings?
[22:21] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you changed usernames when you did a new install, that shouldn't have been a problem to keep those
[22:21] <udi> Settings for what?
[22:22] <udi> Mefisto-- I did not blindly copy old conf files into new directories
[22:22] <Daisuke_Ido> you mentioned setup files, were you talking about program settings and such?
[22:22] <udi> in fact, I installed twice (reformatting the disk in between) because the first CD installation was so bad
[22:23] <udi> I am not even using the bleeding edge KDE4
[22:23] <udi> just the rock solid KDE3.something
[22:24] <mefisto__> udi: it's just a suggestion. It's easy to try. If a new user/home dir doesn't have the same problems, you'll know it's a problem somewhere in the user config
[22:24] <JoshOvki> loads like a major case of EBKAC to me
[22:24] <cosmo> nice, had a transformer blow in my area
[22:24] <neXyon> hello
[22:25] <udi> just as an example: "The user management tool could not be loaded"...
[22:25]  * Daisuke_Ido shrugs
[22:26] <JoshOvki> definutaly a EBKAC
[22:26] <hexidigital> Hello everyone
[22:26] <mefisto__> what's EBKAC?
[22:26] <JoshOvki> error between keyboard and chair :D
[22:26] <spanther> JoshOvki: lol
[22:26] <hexidigital> JoshOvki:  I occasionally experience the "ID10T" error
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> if basic fundamental parts of his install aren't working at all, i can't put the blame entirely on Hardy
[22:26] <JoshOvki> hexidigital: dont we all
[22:27] <hexidigital> :)
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> something was done somewhere to something.
[22:27] <JoshOvki> ah well, they hav gone now
[22:27] <zeeon> I am looking to install an ftp server with ssl on my desktop computer any suggestions to an easy to use ssl ftp server?
[22:27] <fiyawerx> zeeon, vsftp?
[22:28] <jarle> Could anybody help me with a default sources.list for Kubuntu 8.04 64bit?
[22:28] <hexidigital> zeeon:  proftpd is decent, imo
[22:28] <notsomeonesnick> can someone tell me how to change my video driver?
[22:28] <hexidigital> notsomeonesnick:  you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[22:29] <zeeon> i've  tried one once which utilises the user in  the system
[22:29] <hexidigital> notsomeonesnick:  both assume you have the proper driver available
[22:29] <zeeon> users*
[22:29] <spanther> hexidigital: idiot error nice thing it is *g*
[22:29] <notsomeonesnick> hexidigital: yeah i just had to reinstall kubuntu and forgot how i made all the changes needed
[22:29] <hexidigital> spanther:  i'm a constant victim ;)
[22:30] <hexidigital> notsomeonesnick:  ah.. then the latter should suffice
[22:30] <zeeon> hexidigital and fiyawerx thanks i'll look into them
[22:30] <spanther> hexidigital: lol :P
[22:40] <notsomeonesnick> hexidigital: is there another way to edit this file?
[22:41] <_Angelus_> guys
[22:41] <_Angelus_> could someone help me?
[22:41] <notsomeonesnick> isn't there a walkthrough or something that will let me select what i want to in xorg.conf?
[22:41] <_Angelus_> im gonna burn some data to a dvd
[22:41] <_Angelus_> and i dont want to close the session
[22:41] <kaminix> Preparing to replace kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu7 (using .../kdelibs4c2a_4%3a3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1_i386.deb) ...     <--- what's new?
[22:41] <_Angelus_> what do i do ?
[22:42] <notsomeonesnick> _Angelus_: I think in k3b before you burn its in the options..
[22:43] <liveoutloud2day> #ubuntu-support
[22:46] <aos101> kaminix: Looks like a security fix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/
[22:46] <kaminix> Thanks aos101 :)
[22:46] <kaminix> Tried aptitude changelog but got nothing :s
[22:47] <venik>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <landa0>
[22:47] <Odd-rationale> venik: heh thanks!
[22:47] <kaminix> Wah, I really like the codename Intrepid Ibex :)
[22:48] <aos101> kaminix: Yeah I get that sometimes.  The changelog just doesn't load.
[22:49] <venik> can anyone guide me through installing my local parallel printer as a network printer for the WINDOWS machines on my LAN?
[22:49] <kkathman> kaminix:  isnt an ibex like a mountain goat?
[22:50] <kaminix> kkathman: It is according to Wikipedia. I've also looked up intrepid but forgot what it meant. Still, the name is cool :p
[22:50] <TopicFascist> way too long
[22:50] <venik> I think I did it correctly, but the WINDOWS machine does not see that printer
[22:52] <mefisto__> TopicFascist: what? the topic?
[22:53] <TopicFascist> no, intrepid
[22:55] <kaminix> TopicFascist: Intrepid Ibex(12)  Gutsy Gibbon(11) :p
[22:55] <TopicFascist> Intrepid (8) gutsy (5)
[22:55] <kaminix> Meh, it's still easy to say :)
[22:56] <mefisto__> if you count the syllables, intrepid is breaking a tradition
[22:57] <kaminix> It is?
[22:57] <kaminix> Hm, it is. :o
[22:57] <mefisto__> 2 syllables each
[22:57] <kaminix> Yeah, I got thinking. :) Took a while to remember anything but hardy and gutsy :p
[22:58] <mefisto__> so it better be a good release!
[22:58] <kaminix> mefisto__: It will be as usefull as an extra syllable!
[23:02] <nimrod> hello
[23:12] <Plummet> 5 minutes left on my kubuntu 8.04  download :) i am excited
[23:17] <nimrod> 8.04 doesn't work for me
[23:18] <mefisto__> what's wrong, nimrod
[23:19] <woddf2> Hello
[23:19] <the__doctor__> hello....has anyone ever done a remote connection to a windows 2003 server machine in kubuntu?
[23:19] <woddf2> In 8.04 LTS Hardy Heron, how do I install KDE 4?
[23:19] <nimrod> i dunno
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> woddf2: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[23:20] <woddf2> Thanks
[23:40] <mike-kubuntu> hey, i have some questions about kicker in kde4
[23:41] <mike-kubuntu> is there a way to disable it or get it to hide or get windows to overlap it? i'm trying to use avant-window-manager in kde 4 but i cant get kicker to go away, it seems like you can do everything kicker does through desktop widgits as well which would also be cool
[23:43] <mefisto__> !kde4
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> !mono
[23:45] <mefisto__> I can't access my home dir. can't get a file list in konqueror or konsole
[23:46] <mike-kubuntu> mefisto__: thanks!
[23:48] <Choreboy> How can I install Firefox 3b5? I installed via adept on another system (was in repository) but I can't find it available anymore.
[23:49] <_Angelus_> guys
[23:49] <_Angelus_> will Gnome program work well with the "Mac OS X Toolbar" in kde?
[23:50] <BonesolTeraDyne> _Angelus_: The "Mac OS X Toolbar"? I doubt it. I think that's for KDE apps only. I mean, I know SeaMonkey doesn't work with it.
[23:51] <_Angelus_> aMSN doesn't work with it neither
[23:51] <_Angelus_> but i tought thats because aMSN is TCL/Tk
[23:51] <_Angelus_> i tought GTK apps would work
[23:52] <BonesolTeraDyne> I just tried it with SeaMonkey, and it didn't work.
[23:53] <_Angelus_> too bad :(
[23:54] <mike-kubuntu> anyone know how to add launchers to avant window navagator, i'm trying to do it through the configuration thing, but it never opens any dialoge box when i click "add launcher"
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> mike-kubuntu: #awn
[23:56] <mefisto__> mike-kubuntu: don't know for sure, but I think that config thing is a separate program you have to install
[23:57] <mefisto__> mike-kubuntu: awn-manager
[23:58] <mike-kubuntu> thanks
[23:58] <firecrotch> mike-kubuntu, mefisto__: awn-manager, last I recall, is severely crippled in Kubuntu unless GNOME is also installed
[23:58] <mike-kubuntu> firecrotch: thanks, sounds like its probably it
[23:59] <firecrotch> mike-kubuntu:  Last time I bothered to try using it, I installed GNOME and it worked just fine though
[23:59] <mefisto__> I have xfce installed too, so maybe I didn't notice anything because of that. But I don't really use awn, just wanted to try it out