[12:44] <mantiena> hi all
[12:45] <mantiena> I have one question about squashfs/lzma - is lzma enabled in final hardy kernel ?
[12:46] <mantiena> I mean - could I use lzma compression when compressing filesystem.squashfs
[12:46] <alex_joni> mantiena: the customize wiki page specifically says to use -nolzma
[12:47] <alex_joni> that said, I'm not sure if lzma is enabled or not in the kernel
[12:48] <alex_joni> mantiena: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/177634
[12:48] <alex_joni> mantiena: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2008-March/002201.html
[12:48] <alex_joni> I guess that means lzma is not available
[12:48] <mantiena> alex_joni: I've noticed -nolzma in customization wiki, but there was no info why don't use lzma :)
[12:48] <mantiena> alex_joni: thanks for info
[14:01] <BenC> rtg: any chance you have updated configs for non x86 arch's for > 2.6.24?
[14:09] <rtg> BenC: you mean for Intrepid? I don't think I finished the configs until after I dumped all the non x86 arches.
[14:09] <BenC> rtg: Ah, np then
[14:09] <BenC> Trying to finish up this linux-ports package
[14:10] <rtg> BenC: there might be some from really early in the Intrepid tree.
[14:11] <rtg> BenC: thinking about reviewing all of the SRUs today, then rebasing Intrepid to -rc1
[17:00] <qense> did your forget to package the new kernel modules for virtualbox or is it still in the planning?
[17:00] <qense> it's not very good for business users who depend on virtualbox that suddenly it isn't supported anymore by the newest kernel and they have to compile the module all by theirselves
[17:33] <blueyed> qense: you are using hardy-proposed then, not? I'm in the process of building/updating it..
[17:34] <qense> oh :P
[17:34] <qense> my bad
[17:34] <qense> yes, I'm using ti
[17:34] <qense> I'd like to help Ubuntu with testing this before it's released :)
[17:34] <qense> now I understand
[17:34] <qense> when will it be ready?
[17:36] <blueyed> qense: in a few hours.
[17:36] <qense> ok, thx
[17:36] <qense> btw, have you heard about the request form lenovo, HP, dell and some others at the linux dev summit?
[17:37] <qense> they've strongly asked their component manufacturors to create better/good (open-source) linux drivers to be included in the kernel
[17:37] <blueyed> no?
[17:37] <qense> so I hope we'll notice that in the next kernel release :)
[17:37] <BenC> qense: We've seen some promising results from that
[17:37] <BenC> intrepid should have interesting drivers because of it
[17:38] <qense> yeah, I'm really looking forward to it
[17:38] <qense> the reason why I wanted to use virtualbox was too test interpid already
[17:38] <BenC> be hard core and test it on real hardware :)
[17:38] <qense> maybe I'll isntall it over my windows installation ;)
[17:40] <qense> when will catlyst 8.4 be included in Ubuntu btw?
[17:41] <SEJeff> BenC, Do you think Intrepid will *actually* see anything because of that? Seems like to me it would be Intrepid+(1|2) will see the results
[17:41] <qense> I think we'll see a tiny bit of it in 2.6.26
[17:42] <SEJeff> step 1 vendors hire oss developers and/or release docs, step 2 drivers are written, step 3 drivers are tested, step 4 distros ship them
[17:43] <qense> well, I'm looking forward to 9.04 ;)
[17:43] <qense> and 9.10
[17:43] <qense> and all other Ubuntu releases
[17:44] <SEJeff> qense, I dont think we'll see anything that hasn't been already been happening behind the scenes with Greg Kh's linux driver program
[17:44] <qense> I know
[17:44] <SEJeff> Linux always evolves. Look at Warty vs Hardy. It is amazing
[17:44] <qense> yes
[17:44] <qense> linux is one of the greates software projects in the world
[18:09] <BenC> rtg: why did you upload the kernel to hardy-proposed?
[18:10] <BenC> rtg: SEJeff I know for a fact intrepid will see some benefit of that
[18:10] <BenC> s/rtg/SEJeff/
[18:10] <BenC> SEJeff: Dell et al announcing that was way after they actually started doing it
[18:11] <SEJeff> BenC, Alright, you have better contacts than I (Canonical). Thats great news
[18:11] <SEJeff> I see announcements as fluff. Only the code and contributions matter
[18:11] <BenC> That announcement was more than fluff
[18:12] <SEJeff> Well then it is seriously good news
[18:12] <BenC> We've had ODM's contacting us directly as a result of pressure from OEM's like Dell
[18:13] <BenC> some of them have even been put on a timeline for getting open source drivers out, by the OEM (note, I can't say any names at all)
[18:13] <SEJeff> Of course, NDAs both ways. That is fantastic though and means a lot for open source
[18:14] <SEJeff> BenC, Any luck in SRUs for new hardware support? Doubtful, but is it a possibility?
[18:14] <BenC> SEJeff: Only for Hardy, and only in line with out first point release (which is in about 3 months)
[18:18] <SEJeff> Thats great news for OSS as a whole
[18:31] <rtg> 406-443-5357
[18:31] <rtg> BenC: ^^
[18:38] <mantiena> doko: hi
[21:55] <PeP`> Hello, I have a litle question about a kernel message that makes me wonder... "message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub-path wlan0" ... why this redhat occurrency?
[22:08] <johanbr> PeP`: I think that's actually from network-manager. It's just a dbus name used by n-m, probably since it was originally coded by a RH guy. 
[22:09] <PeP`> uhu... thank you johanbr