[00:15] <Sergeant_Pony> has anyone had an issue transferring there pgp keys from one machine to another?  I used the export feature and it didn't transfer the secret keys
[00:15] <Sergeant_Pony> maybe I need to try it commandline?
[00:16] <fta> --export-secret-keys
[00:16] <fta> that is, with gpg
[00:21] <Sergeant_Pony> gpg --export-secret-keys  ? and that's it? what about the passphrase?
[00:22] <fta> gpg --export-secret-keys --armor > some_file
[00:22] <fta> then transfer this file to your other box and import it
[00:24] <Sergeant_Pony> ok.. will try it
[00:25] <Sergeant_Pony> hmm.. I did gpg --list-secret-keys and it did list them on the new copmputer
[00:25] <Sergeant_Pony> for some reason when I send an email I get an error...
[00:32] <Sergeant_Pony> figured it out... it's trying to use an old key that is no longer on the system... can this be fixed?
[00:35] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: change the key to be use in tbird openpgp settings
[00:38] <Sergeant_Pony> where at? in preferences?
[00:42] <Sergeant_Pony> I didn't think it was going to be hard to have the same set of keys on 2 computers...
[00:52] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: you most likely selected a key explicitly once _or_ have not set the email address you are trying to use as identity in the gpg key
[00:52] <asac> Sergeant_Pony: the setting is in account settings ... there should be a opengpg thing where you can select a key
[00:59] <Sergeant_Pony> ok, got it, thanks
[01:01] <Sergeant_Pony> cool, it worked
[05:18] <victory747> Hi, I'm having problems with chinese localization and need some help figuring this out
[05:20] <victory747> I'm running a zh_CN.UTF-8 locale, but it's using zh_TW localization that is coming from the language-pack-gnome-zh-base package
[05:21] <victory747> why is there mozilla localization in langauge-pack-gnome-zh anyway?  Why does it not use mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn first?
[05:22] <victory747> removing the language-pack-gnome-zh package means firefox only uses English
[05:22] <victory747> and will not use the firefox-locale-zh package
[05:31] <victory747> is any of the localization working properly?
[08:48] <asac> hi
[09:41] <JenFraggle> hey guys
[09:41] <JenFraggle> i'm getting a problem with firefox since the upgrade to hardy
[09:44] <asac> JenFraggle: ?
[09:45] <JenFraggle> I play a game called kingdom of loathing.  I have 2 characters and before I was able to play them in 2 separate tabs but now firefox seems to be confused and mixes up the characters
[09:45] <JenFraggle> i can be playing 1 character and all of a sudden it changes to the other one
[09:45] <JenFraggle> i'm not sure whether it is a firefox problem or not so thought i'd check here first
[09:47] <asac> sounds strange
[09:48] <JenFraggle> if anyone would know what to do it will be mozilla team
[09:48] <asac> JenFraggle: you sure that it still works with ffox 2? maybe site upgraded the software by coincident at the same time and its broken now?
[09:48] <JenFraggle> can i install 2 alongside 3?
[09:50] <asac> JenFraggle: you can instlal it ... but before running you should backup your .mozilla directory - just in case
[09:50] <asac> Jazzva: install firefox-2 package
[09:50] <asac> JenFraggle: ^^
[09:53] <JenFraggle> ok
[09:55] <JenFraggle> doing
[09:57] <JenFraggle> does the same to me in 2
[09:57] <JenFraggle> looks like their problem then?
[09:58] <asac> yeah
[09:58] <asac> JenFraggle: you could create two profiles in firefox
[09:58] <JenFraggle> ok
[09:58] <asac> and run two browsers with setting MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1
[09:59] <asac> (otherwise the same browser/profile will open a new window)
[09:59] <asac> or use firefox + epiphany
[09:59] <JenFraggle> ok
[09:59] <asac> to workaround ;)
[10:00] <JenFraggle> thanks.  I knew coming here would sort things out
[10:07] <victory747> is firefox 3 the officially supported firefox of hardy, or is it firefox 2?
[10:13] <asac> ^^^ yay, instant support request
[10:13] <asac> :)
[13:23] <gnomefre1k> its in main we support it, asac as for the profiles it seems just the first time you run them both everything gets lost after that you can switch without losing anything atleast that is what i experienced
[13:43] <gnomefreak> we are subscribe to kaz bugs now
[13:46] <gnomefreak> fta_: you around?
[13:49] <fta2> yep
[13:49] <gnomefreak> are you planing on updateing kaz anytime?
[13:50] <fta2> i thought it was imported from debian now ?
[13:50] <gnomefreak> 5.2 crashes 5.3 fixes crash 5.4 is latest
[13:50] <gnomefreak> oh i dont know if it is or not
[13:50] <gnomefreak> 5.2 is a nasty crash when clicking on prefferneces
[13:51] <fta2> iirc, there's some work needed to make it work with xul 1.9
[13:51] <fta2> otherwise, it's one of the last xul 1.8 deps
[13:51] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[13:51] <gnomefreak> thats not ideal
[13:53] <fta2> xul 1.8 could probably be dropped from intrepid at some point.. don't know how realistic it is.
[13:54] <gnomefreak> i would like it if possible. if possible = if nothing depends on it why keep it around
[13:54] <gnomefreak> supported xulrunner 1.9 detection.(Kouhei SUTOU)
[13:55] <gnomefreak> thats for 5.2
[13:55] <gnomefreak> 5.3 re did xul support :(
[13:55] <gnomefreak> xulrunner support is being inplemeted. It maybe do not work.(Shunichi Fuji, Hiroyuki IKEZOE)+
[13:58] <fta2> in 5.2, it was not working for sure, donno for 5.3
[13:58] <fta2> but i don't have time right now. maybe asac could have a look
[13:59] <gnomefreak> maybe thats why they re-did t in 5.3
[13:59] <gnomefreak> i may do it i was just wondering if you had plans on it
[13:59] <gnomefreak> today wont be happening im extreamly busy today
[14:45] <fta2> i don't know if it's gcc3 or what but xul1.9 is emitting zillions of bad warnings at build time
[14:46] <fta2> gcc 4.3 is mean
[14:46] <fta2> I
[14:46] <asac> most likely
[14:46] <asac> example?
[14:46] <fta2> tons of comparisons of unsigned int to negative values
[14:48] <asac> fta2: maybe we have a different set of default CFLAGS? like -Wall ?
[14:48] <fta2> warning: invalid access to non-static data member ‘nsCSSSVG::mMarkerMid’ of NULL object
[14:48] <fta2> warning: (perhaps the ‘offsetof’ macro was used incorrectly)
[14:50] <fta2> hm, there's -pedantic
[15:56] <gnomefreak> !info pork gutsy
[15:57] <gnomefreak> !info bitchx gutsy
[15:57] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[16:23] <gnomefreak> asac: java 6 work in firefox on 64 without nspluginwrapper?
[16:24] <gnomefreak> make that gutsy
[16:27] <gnomefreak> never mind hes on 64bit running a ps3 ppc too many vars. to help with that
[16:46] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... ppc + java is problem :)
[16:46] <gnomefreak> ppc + ps3 + 64bit + java == big ass problem
[16:47] <gnomefreak> ppc and java always been issues as i recall
[16:48] <gnomefreak> but he would tell me one peice at a time first was 64 bit when i asked than it was i forgot to tell you its ps3 + ppc
[16:48] <gnomefreak> so you cant give me everything i need to know you can go find help other places :)
[16:49] <gnomefreak> ok im goin gto continue my day before it gets too damn hot out
[16:56] <Sergeant_Pony> is there a new mail notifier for tb under linux?
[16:58] <gnomefreak> the package mail notifier or any mail notifier?
[16:59] <Sergeant_Pony> either... I niticed that tb for windows has a new mail notifier
[16:59] <gnomefreak> and as for linux we cant confirm but under ubuntu last i heard the u-m-e team was working on one i believe but i cant remember
[17:00] <Sergeant_Pony> ok.. I use 4 desktops so I don't always know when I get new e-mail
[17:00] <gnomefreak> looking to make sure
[17:04] <gnomefreak> Sergeant_Pony: i cant find any of the extension pages its seems they are not made as sub page of mozillateam might want to ask one of them Jazzva might know
[17:04] <Sergeant_Pony> ok, thanks
[17:20] <asac> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions ?
[17:21] <gnomefreak> asac: its not in the cat. for mozillateam
[17:21] <gnomefreak> Sergeant_Pony: see asacs link he gave me
[17:22] <asac> gnomefreak: no idea why its not there
[17:22] <gnomefreak> maybe the tital
[17:22] <gnomefreak> title
[17:26] <gnomefreak> on /win 10
[17:27] <gnomefreak> its not the title of it either
[17:27] <gnomefreak> not sure maybe i overlooked it but i got to get going
[17:36] <Sergeant_Pony> don't see any new mail notifier's in there
[17:40] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: I think it's missing Category field in the page... I'll add it nopw
[17:40] <Jazzva> *now
[17:44] <Sergeant_Pony> I saw 1 mail notifier but it required installing a server and client... shouldn't need to do that.
[17:44] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: It's ok now...
[17:55] <asac> bug 194710
[18:27] <cwong1> clear
[20:04] <gnomefreak> asac: you busy yet?
[20:26] <gnomefreak> asac: when you show back up let me know if you plan on taking PPA sunbird 0.8 adding bird icon to it and push to Intrepid or do you want me to take your build from PPA and remove the line that says "not for regular use" or whatever it says and add icons and build The icons are in the package just they <people from bugreport> wanted it to be used by default replacing the calendar icon.
[20:26] <gnomefreak> im gonna go and get other things done.\
[20:27] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: thank you but it wasnt important for it to have them i forgot to bookmark it
[20:39] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: no problem :)
[21:31] <cwong1> asac: ping
[22:27] <asac> cwong1: ?
[22:28] <asac> gnomefreak: tell me where the icons are ... then i can use that as menu icon
[22:29] <cwong1> asac: hey..  I still couldn't solve the urlbar problem that I told you about last week
[22:30] <cwong1> asac: can you tell me which routine that change the url to the full name?
[22:31] <asac> hmm ... not without looking. i would suspect that its a property of a XBL template
[22:32] <cwong1> i  looked at the urlbarbinding.xml and that looks ok to me
[22:32] <cwong1> I examined all the midbrowser xul files and they look fine to me
[22:33] <cwong1> I have also replace the midbrowser.xul with Firefox's browser.xul and I still see the same problem
[22:33] <cwong1> but if I built the regular browser, it works just fine.
[22:37] <cwong1> asac: got any suggestions on what I can try next?
[22:38] <asac> hmm
[22:40] <cwong1> looks like the url gets updated/changed during the loadURI call  but I am not sure where
[22:42] <asac> i would say window.location.href
[22:42] <asac> but unsure why its different when you have multiple tabs open
[22:43] <cwong1> yeap, that is really strange... I would thought the code is the same for handling urlbar regardless of tabs
[22:46] <asac> onLocationChange
[22:46] <asac> tabbrowser.xml
[22:47] <cwong1> ok, I will look at tabbrowse.xml and see what I can come up with
[22:48] <asac> and browser.js
[22:48] <cwong1> ok
[22:48] <asac> i would try to see if onLocationChange is claled in both cases
[22:49] <asac> if so, i would narrow down where onLocationChange is processed differently
[22:49] <cwong1> gotit
[22:49] <asac> and so on
[22:49] <cwong1> thanks
[22:49] <asac> let me know
[22:49] <cwong1> will do
[22:49] <asac> cool
[22:57] <fta> strange, my xul crashes in realpath, 100%
[22:57] <fta> plain b5, unpatched
[23:03] <fta> gnomefreak, just got my 1st intrepid nightmare, X no longer starting after a reboot :P
[23:06] <gnomefreak> no updates for me :) thanks
[23:07] <fta> you're back in hardy ?
[23:07] <gnomefreak> nope
[23:09] <asac> fta: realpath? followlink?
[23:09] <fta> yep, to find the gre home
[23:09] <fta> i've patched it but it's weird
[23:09] <asac> fta: is that a link to a link to a file?
[23:09] <fta> no
[23:10] <asac> so just one level?
[23:10] <fta> just to get the full path of a relative path
[23:10] <gnomefreak> asac: ill look in source for icons now
[23:11] <gnomefreak> what size do you want? 196x196?
[23:11] <gnomefreak> or around that
[23:12] <gnomefreak> nomefreak/sunbird_builds/lightning-sunbird-0.8+nobinonly/debian is one that says Sunbird but thats not the one i meant
[23:13] <asac> gnomefreak: no idea about the size, but i think 32x32 is ok for the menu
[23:13] <gnomefreak> fta: do you know what update did it?
[23:13] <asac> or 24x24 even
[23:13] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb1.png
[23:13] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb2.png
[23:13] <gnomefreak> ok ill let you know once i unpack it
[23:14] <gnomefreak> thats odd there is a browser dir in source
[23:14] <asac> most likely a full copy of xulrunner+firefox :)
[23:14] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb3.png
[23:15] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0.13pre is all that is in it
[23:15] <gnomefreak> you would think they would have removed it
[23:20] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb4.png
[23:20] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb5.png
[23:20] <gnomefreak> ummmm png right?
[23:21] <fta> ?
[23:21] <gnomefreak> fta: i have the update issue on pastebin im looking at. but icon for sunbird should be a .png right?
[23:21] <asac> gnomefreak: png is fine
[23:22] <asac> svg is better ... but unlikely that there is one
[23:22] <fta> desktop icon ?
[23:22] <gnomefreak> asac: ok thanks i found the bmp but still looking cant remember where i saw it but the bpm or whatever is in Windows dir
[23:22] <asac> gnomefreak: there is most likely a branding dir somewhere
[23:23] <asac> that should ship the right icons
[23:23] <fta> svg or png, but don't use the extension in the *.desktop file; let gnome decide
[23:24] <gnomefreak> i dont see branding dir but im running a search now
[23:24] <gnomefreak> found the blue ones
[23:25] <fta> hm, small player too: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb6.png
[23:25] <gnomefreak> found it
[23:26] <gnomefreak> asac: png or .xpm are pretty much it
[23:26] <fta> png
[23:26] <gnomefreak> /home/gnomefreak/sunbird_builds/lightning-sunbird-0.8+nobinonly/mozilla/other-licenses/branding/sunbird
[23:26] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^^ path to all of them
[23:26] <gnomefreak> /home/gnomefreak/sunbird_builds/lightning-sunbird-0.8+nobinonly/mozilla/other-licenses/branding/sunbird/mozicon128.png
[23:26] <gnomefreak> asac: full path with icon
[23:28] <asac> looks reasonable
[23:28] <gnomefreak> fta: what version is your libffi4
[23:28] <gnomefreak> firefox-2 recommmends ubufox?
[23:29] <gnomefreak> i thought it was installed with it
[23:30] <gnomefreak> oh shit this is the gcc-4.3 that is underlying cause i bet
[23:30] <gnomefreak> everything will have to be respun for gcc-4.3
[23:30] <gnomefreak> before you have working X
[23:32] <fta> libffi5 now. libffi4 was shipped by gcc 4.2, but not anymore
[23:32]  * gnomefreak wonders if there is a simple less time taking way besides respinning everything on 4.3
[23:32] <gnomefreak> fta: source package for that is gcc-4.*
[23:32] <fta> for X, i just had to downgrade libxfont, nothing else
[23:32] <gnomefreak> fta: it didnt remove everything?
[23:33] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.ca/1008740  <<< example i got from someone
[23:33] <fta> i have a bunch of gcc 4.2 and perl 5.10 packages unupgradable
[23:33] <gnomefreak> lol i dont even have that package
[23:34] <fta> don't accept that upgrade ;)
[23:34] <gnomefreak> lets see what it says for me
[23:34] <gnomefreak> im not going to
[23:34] <fta> i only do regular updates, no dist-upgrades
[23:34] <gnomefreak> just running update
[23:34] <gnomefreak> thatsd all you should be doing this early in devel cycle
[23:35] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.ca/1008753  :)
[23:38] <fta> yep, something like that
[23:38] <fta> shitty license http://paste.ubuntu.com/10343/
[23:39] <gnomefreak> i just informed idleone that never do dist-upgrade he said he did it all through hardy and i told him why dont do it
[23:39] <gnomefreak> fta: you got a linux binary?
[23:39] <fta> 10+ years of debian unstable so I know ;)
[23:39] <gnomefreak> for songbird?
[23:39] <fta> yes
[23:40] <gnomefreak> ive been running devel versions since before i knew what sudo wasa
[23:40] <gnomefreak> was
[23:40] <gnomefreak> where did you find linux bin?
[23:40] <fta> i've packaged it
[23:40] <fta> from sources
[23:40] <gnomefreak> oh
[23:41] <gnomefreak> without xulrunner-1.9 i take it
[23:41] <fta> without, it needs to be patched
[23:41] <gnomefreak> ah
[23:41] <fta> so i've made another xul 1.9, embedded
[23:41] <gnomefreak> you posting them to ppa? i would like to see what all the fuss is about
[23:42] <fta> it's not finished, and iirc, the license is not acceptable
[23:42] <fta> so i'm not sure what to do next
[23:43] <gnomefreak> acceptable from Ubuntu standards but can you change lic. in source on own or would mozilla need to change it
[23:44] <gnomefreak> not sure if this falls under moz lic or not  (the 3 licenses that moz use gpl, one moz only lic and another one)
[23:44] <fta> bug 94494
[23:44] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[23:46] <fta> debian bug 412437
[23:46] <gnomefreak> asac: 18:45 <         IdleOne > gnomefreak: maybe you can pass this on. nm-applet  needs a disconnect from network option
[23:47] <fta> jcastro, any news from the songbird guys ?
[23:47] <gnomefreak> asac: 18:47 <         IdleOne > I mean if I want to switch from wifi to w2ing at once  connections gored it connects to both so I have t
[23:47] <gnomefreak> thats all smoke time
[23:50] <jcastro> fta: they want a logo exception thing like for ff
[23:50] <jcastro> which as I understand isn't what we want
[23:51] <fta> their license is far from clear to me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10343/
[23:51] <jcastro> fta: yeah, we should just discuss this @ UDS I think
[23:51] <fta> that's from a svn snapshot i've packaged today