[01:29] Note to self: mention to Keybuk: [01:29] http://www.netsplit.com/2008/04/27/upstart-05-events/ “instance TTY” [01:40] http://www.netsplit.com/2008/04/12/upstart-05-job-lifecycle/ “ANd” [10:34] hi all [10:40] can i query what services are running somehow? [10:41] ok, got it [10:41] oh, initctl list is not what i'm looking for [10:41] it doezsn't list dbus, etc. [10:43] doesn't [11:37] soul9: As long as you’re using Upstart just to start the old sysvrc scripts, Upstart doesn’t know about services started by said scripts. As soon as they’re converted to actual Upstart jobs, Upstart will know about them. [11:46] ok, so the old sysvrc didn't know how to list the running jobs, right? [11:48] Yeah [11:48] It has no concept of something that is still running after the init script exits. [11:49] on hardy, though, i need to make a script that get run after an internet connection is established. is upstart a good place to look for? [11:49] /etc/network/if-up.d [11:49] oh [11:49] thank YOU!!! [11:50] In the future, hopefully stuff like that and ACPI events etc. are also transformed to Upstart jobs. [11:52] ion_: this is a bit off topic, but do you know if i could put something in /etc/network/if-preup.d to make NetworkManager ignore a new device matching certain criteria? [11:53] i only ask because you mentioned if-up.d [11:56] I don’t know. Perhaps add an udev rule so that it always gets the same interface name and define that interface in /e/n/interfaces. [11:56] well thats the problem.. i want something that i can package.. [20:36] Keybuk: internet troubles? [20:40] good answer [21:47] :)