[00:00] <MiKa|> made in /etc/
[00:00] <TheSheep> then trhow in /etc :)
[00:00] <MiKa|> and probably some other folders
[00:00] <MiKa|> which means i would rather backup the whole system
[00:00] <TheSheep> why would you ever need to modify anything outside /home and /etc?
[00:00] <MiKa|> but the rofs folder is exceptionally large
[00:00] <TheSheep> it probably contains itself :)
[00:01] <MiKa|> another thiing is i wouldn't feel like redownloading the files
[00:02] <MiKa|> oh well, i think i will make my own tests to find out
[00:10] <Macskeeball2> Hi. I just pressed ctrl-alt-escape just to check that is was the graphical xkill, but I don't actually want to kill anything right now. How do I get our of it?
[00:11] <Macskeeball2> *out
[00:14] <TheSheep> Macskeeball2: right-click
[00:15] <Macskeeball2> Whew. Thanks.
[00:22] <TheSheep> this is kind of a finger-of-doom feeling :)
[00:35] <navetz> hey has anyone here got dualscreen working with a intel i810 ?
[00:38] <maxamillion> navetz: i don't think the i810 will do dual screens ... doesn't it only have 1 vga out?
[00:38] <navetz> maxamillion: well I am trying to do it with my laptop
[00:39] <navetz> maxamillion: so my laptop as one screen, and an extrenal monitor as another.
[00:39] <maxamillion> navetz: ah ... hmmm, nope i've had no success with that (granted i haven't done much digging) ... but if you do find it please let me know, i have a laptop that i would find that to be useful with
[00:41] <navetz> maxamillion: i know it is possible, I almost had it set up before. This time I am getting blank screens and I can't figure out how to fix it.
[00:41] <maxamillion> oh ... huh :(
[00:41] <maxamillion> navetz: have you checked the ubuntu wiki? there's normally good stuff there
[00:47] <navetz> maxamillion: yea I followed it but its not working :(
[00:48] <maxamillion> oh ... :(
[00:55] <zero-cool> Good morning
[01:02]  * jms1989_xp is away: I'm busy
[03:21] <Mannequin> hi
[03:21] <zoredache> hello
[03:21] <Mannequin> the XFCE panels (the desktop panels) have disappeared after rebooting
[03:21] <Mannequin> I've clicked on Settings -> Panel setting, but it doesn't brings the panel dialog
[03:22] <zoredache> try running xfce4-panel
[03:23] <Mannequin> I've tried login with my girlfriends users, and her desktop has the panels there
[03:24] <Mannequin> zoredache: sorry, didn't see your messages
[03:24] <Mannequin> thanks
[03:24] <Mannequin> the panels are back
[03:24] <Mannequin> :)
[03:34] <Mannequin> zoredache: ok, panels are back, but for some reason, all the output of Quicksynergy (a gui app) is appearing on the terminal
[03:35] <Mannequin> I've also tried running xfce4-panel from the Run command (alt+f2) dialog
[03:35] <Mannequin> but it's the same
[03:35] <Mannequin> other apps doesn't seem to be redirecting any output to the terminal, just quicksynergy
[03:45] <zoredache> Mannequin: I don't know what that is.. but you might try logging out and in again
[03:45] <Mannequin> yes, I will, thanks
[03:46] <zoredache> I suspect it may just be a one-time glitch... do make sure you choose to save your session when you logout
[03:54] <Overand> (Xubuntu 7.10) - I changed themes, and new messages in pidgin no longer make the status bar thing blink.
[03:54] <Overand> Not the 'tray'/notification icon- but the ..
[03:54] <Overand> Heck, I'm missing the terminology.
[03:55] <Overand> wait - I stan corrected, it's just ad ifferent style of blinking that I don't notice as clearly.
[03:56] <zoredache> nuts.... I was going to ask you how to make the blinking stop  It annoys the hell out of me
[04:18] <Roy_Mustang> good night!!
[04:19] <Roy_Mustang> i'm looking for help, should i simply drop my question here?
[04:22] <zoredache> yes
[04:22] <zoredache> !ask
[04:22] <|Killabuntu|> hey guys whats the best burning program for xubuntu?
[04:24] <zoredache> |Killabuntu|: I use cdrecord and mkisofs directly, but I suppose you where hoping for a gui
[04:24] <|Killabuntu|> yes
[04:24] <|Killabuntu|> i am half human still
[04:25] <Roy_Mustang> Question: i've downloaded xubuntu 8.04 alternate cd for my p3750 128Mb ram 20gb disc, liberated 2gb with Partition magic from WinXP. burned the cd, but afeter it loads gets me a md5 sum error on debian-installer, burned twice and the result it's the same, md5sum after download is correct, is there any issue that i missed or just bad luck? thanks!!
[04:26] <|Killabuntu|> try a diff mirror if not an official one? save to a diff directory, ues a diff browser
[04:26] <Roy_Mustang> done, 2 diff mirros, 2 diferent browsers
[04:26] <zoredache> Roy_Mustang: it sounds like your cd-drive may be dieing?
[04:26] <|Killabuntu|> buy a new computer
[04:27] <zoredache> since the md5 of the iso checked out it is unlikely you had a bad download
[04:28] <Roy_Mustang> |Killabuntu| xDDD sure, i'll give my account numbre you can loan me some euros xDD. the cd-drive is a DVD recorder, only 6 month use
[04:28] <zoredache> you could try investigating alternate install methods like booting off a usb disk if your computer supports it
[04:29] <|Killabuntu|> guysss
[04:29] <|Killabuntu|> whats a good burning prog for xubuntu
[04:29] <|Killabuntu|> tell me so i can pee on winxp
[04:30] <zoredache> |Killabuntu|: you could look through the add/remove programs and simply try things
[04:30] <|Killabuntu|> no theres no net on this box yet
[04:30] <|Killabuntu|> im gonna use it to just burn progs for now
[04:32] <Roy_Mustang> mmm i found that i can't boot my pc from usb, i need a new pc, but i can boot from floppy and install from USB, i'll try that onde, thanks guys!
[04:33] <|Killabuntu|> pcs are so cheap
[04:33] <|Killabuntu|> i saw amd phenom proc 3gbram, 500 hd so cheap
[04:35] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache how do u add stuff via command line
[04:36] <Roy_Mustang> jejeje, the thing is that i live in argentina, and here pc arent so accesible to everyone, i got this one for almost 7 years, and never get to buy another one
[04:36] <|Killabuntu|> why
[04:36] <|Killabuntu|> i thouht argentia is very progressing
[04:36] <|Killabuntu|> didnt know u guys are like a village
[04:37] <zoredache> if you are asking how you install things you can use 'apt-get install {package}' or if you have downlaod the correct .deb files then you use 'dpkg -i {filename.deb}'
[04:37] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache i mean
[04:37] <|Killabuntu|> how do u add stuff to a command line burner
[04:38] <zoredache> you use mkisofs to build an iso.. then you use cdrecord to write that to the drive
[04:38] <Roy_Mustang> only in certain pats of the country, around Capital its quite accesible, but when u get far from it, its hard to get things, plus inflation and lots and lots of economic problems, anyway, thanks for the help ;)
[04:39] <zoredache> Roy_Mustang: another though might be to use the mini.iso   It is a lot smaller and so might work
[04:39] <zoredache> !mini
[04:41] <Roy_Mustang> i dont think it works, i have a usb modem that it's a pain in the *ss it already hard to find the drivers for linux i dont think it works in the installer
[04:42] <zoredache> ah... :|
[04:43] <Roy_Mustang> yea, i think i'm gonna go crazy before getting xubuntu installed xD
[04:44] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache how do u brun a bunc hof mp3s, etc
[04:45] <Roy_Mustang> Question: wubi supports Xubuntu instalation?
[04:46] <|Killabuntu|> wats wubi
[04:46] <|Killabuntu|> a new teletubby member
[04:47] <Roy_Mustang> Wubi is an installer that uses a process similar to what described in this page, but the installation takes place within a file inside Windows, and hence, differently from the other approaches, it does not require to modify the partitions. In any case, if you later want install it to a dedicated partition, you can do it. See  http://wubi-installer.org.
[04:47] <|Killabuntu|> :(
[04:47] <Roy_Mustang> ¬¬ anyway i cant execute it xDDDDD
[04:49] <|Killabuntu|> XDDDDD
[04:50] <Roy_Mustang> i'm getting frustrated
[04:54] <|Killabuntu|> xubuntu is dl at 40kb/se
[04:54] <|Killabuntu|> bs mirrors
[04:55] <Roy_Mustang> i'm gonna use UNebootin
[04:56] <|Killabuntu|> ok
[04:56] <Roy_Mustang> it's a program that installs linux by making a partition on the disk and installing from there
[04:56] <Roy_Mustang> im going to sleep now, thanks guys
[05:20] <|Killabuntu|> anyone here use HTC phones
[06:16] <vietnow> Hi, I restarted my computer, and when I got to my desktop my top panel disappeared?? and when I put in "xfce-setting-show" into the terminal and click "panel" nothing pops up
[06:17] <vietnow> but everything else works, like "display" and "sessions and start up"
[06:17] <vietnow> what command do I type into the terminal to restart xfwm4
[06:18] <ere4si> try   xfce4-panel &
[06:19] <vietnow> Thank you so much :D
[06:20] <vietnow> thats what I was looking for... a quick google didn't display anything
[06:20] <vietnow> hmmm so when I close the terminal, the panel disappears
[06:21] <vietnow> how do I add it to start up?
[06:21] <ere4si> close the terminal by typing exit
[06:22] <ere4si> it should restart as you would use the same session
[06:22] <vietnow> thanks alot
[06:34] <Myrtti> morning folks
[08:02] <Xerxes> Can someone help me with a display problem in Xfce.?
[08:07] <zoredache> !ask
[08:08] <zoredache> !night
[08:13] <poisonblack> Alrite..Here's the problem I face in Xubuntu.Sometimes, after the loading screen at boot-up, I have no display on monitor.
[08:14] <poisonblack> The problem occurs randomly and I don't recall doing anything to trigger this sort of thing.
[08:17] <zoredache> when you have no display does the console still work?
[08:17] <zoredache> ctrl-alt-f1
[08:19] <poisonblack> Never tried accessing console when there is no display.I restart the PC when no display and the thing boots up fine.
[08:19] <zoredache> my random guess would be that there is some screen resolution auto-detection that isn't guessing right some of the time
[08:20] <zoredache> I am not sure where to set it, but perhaps look something to force the resolution/color depth
[08:20] <poisonblack> I have following resolutions in xorg.conf
[08:20] <poisonblack> "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[08:20] <poisonblack> This is for my 15 inch HCL monitor
[08:22] <poisonblack> default color depth in xorg.conf is set to 24
[09:30] <mstef> im running the live cd for 8.04 and the text in the menus and application windows is enormous
[09:30] <mstef> whats the deal with that
[09:34] <mstef> ?
[09:35] <ere4si> mstef: what is the screen resolution?
[09:35] <mstef> i dont know..i cant naviagate any windows..but the bottom task bar looks perfect
[09:35] <mstef> wallpaper looks fine
[09:36] <mstef> each word is like 20% of the screen
[09:37] <ere4si> mstef: is it a nvidia vid card?
[09:37] <mstef> dont know..its not my computer..its an older toshiba notebook
[09:40] <ere4si> mstef: open the applications - system settings menu - you can hold down the alt key and use the mouse to drag a window up - open desktop I think it is and check the default font size
[09:43] <mstef> i unchecked 'use system font size'...made custom font size 4 and nothing changed
[09:45] <ere4si> mstef: you might need to restart x - open a terminal and type   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:47] <mstef> nope
[09:48] <ere4si> try hitting  ctrl+alt+bksp
[09:49] <mstef> what do you use to login the live cd
[09:49] <ere4si> gdm
[09:49] <mstef> still big
[09:49] <ere4si> sorry
[09:49] <ere4si> ubuntu and leave the password blank
[09:50] <mstef> it logged back in automatically
[09:50] <mstef> font is still huge
[09:51] <ere4si> ok - more terminal work - type   ls /usr/share/fonts/X11 and tell us what's listed pls
[09:53] <mstef> k one sec
[09:55] <mstef> 100dpi, 75dpi, encodings, misc, Type1,
[09:56] <ere4si> hmmm
[09:58] <ere4si> open a menu with the large fonts and hold down the ctrl button and move the scroll wheel back and forward slow and see if the size changes
[09:58] <mstef> no scroll wheel
[09:58] <mstef> laptop
[09:58] <ere4si> kk
[09:59] <ere4si> I'm out of ideas - maybe someone else can chime in...
[09:59] <ere4si> ohh - was the cd checked with the md5 ?
[09:59] <mstef> no
[10:01] <ere4si> !bot
[10:01] <ere4si> !md5
[10:01] <ere4si> mstef: ^^
[10:01] <mstef> k
[10:04] <mstef> its good
[10:04] <mstef> and i have the livecd checking the cd for defects
[10:06] <mstef> its fine
[10:12] <ere4si> mstef: one min
[10:13] <mstef> k
[10:13] <mstef> think i might just cut my loses
[10:13] <ere4si> mstef: can you use firefox? - see if this helps - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3609621
[10:13] <mstef> yea im on my main computer now
[10:15] <mstef> its on a live cd though..and its xubuntu, not ku or ub..
[10:15] <mstef> maybe ill just install then try to fix
[10:17] <mstef> thanks..
[10:17] <ere4si> k godd luck
[10:27] <Finnisher> so is there a way of calibrating a notebook battery in xubuntu, or at least making the tool say that there's 100% battery left instead of 82% (in my case)
[11:15] <latitu> hi, i have dsl on one lan card and another lan card connected to an other pc. how can i make the other pc share the internet ?
[11:20] <suriro> latitu: install firestarter, use it
[11:21] <latitu> i have fs
[11:21] <latitu> theres an option to share internet
[11:21] <latitu> but how do i assign a static ip to the other computer
[11:21] <latitu> ?
[11:22] <ere4si> latitu: you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:24] <latitu_> but how do i assign a static ip to the other computer
[11:25] <latitu_> i was disconected. sory........
[11:25] <ere4si> latitu: that is the comp you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces on - then /etc/hosts on this comp
[11:26] <ere4si> latitu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[11:28] <latitu_> ok
[11:28] <latitu_> thanks
[11:28] <latitu_>  what is 'enable dhcp for local network' in firestarter means?
[11:28] <ere4si> it means to have any ip address set - not static
[11:29] <ere4si> latitu: ^^
[11:30] <latitu_> ic
[11:30] <latitu_> so if i want to share my internet with another computers i should enable both options ? enable internet connection sharing and enable dhcp for local network?
 or ony one>?
[11:31] <latitu_> i need to check enable internet connection sharing ..
[11:31] <latitu_> but dhcp is an option..
[11:31] <latitu_> right?
[11:31] <latitu_> and if i dont check dhcp. how should i assign ip to the computer. or how will it work?
[11:32] <ere4si> latitu: I only ever use static ip addresses
[11:44] <latitu> how to set the ip manually ?
[11:44] <suriro> network manager
[11:45] <ere4si> latitu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[11:45] <ere4si> latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what?
[11:46] <latitu> ere4si if i want to use firestarter. with dhcp. it says device etho2 is not ready
[11:46] <ere4si> latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what?
[11:46] <latitu> ere4si kubuntu. etho1 dsl.     ethho 2  my other pc
[11:46] <ere4si> latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what?
[11:46] <latitu> kubuntu
[11:46] <latitu> dsl
[11:47] <latitu> the other pc is windows
[11:47] <ere4si> latitu: so which comp runs an ubuntu type os?
[11:47] <latitu> i think static is better. if i use static ips. i can limit bandwidths to each pc by its ip.. right. ?
[11:47] <latitu> mine run it
[11:48] <ere4si> latitu: you may need to ask in #dsl or ##windows
[11:48] <latitu> what about ubuntu .. mine as server?
[11:48] <latitu> fs says etho2 is not up.
[11:49] <latitu> how do i configure it|?
[11:49] <ere4si> latitu: you are confusing me - connect dsl to windows?
[11:49] <latitu> wait
[11:50] <latitu> dsl>dslmodem>lancard,etho1>mypc(ubuntu)>i use it too >lancard 2 , etho 2 > other pc for sharing (windows.
[11:51] <ere4si> latitu: I don't know how dsl and windows work - sorry
[11:52] <latitu> iam not asking that
[11:52] <Freddo_frog> Hey guys i am having a few problems
[11:52] <latitu> iam asking about my computer that has linux
[11:52] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: you just ask away in here :)
[11:53] <Freddo_frog> thanks
[11:53] <ere4si> :)
[11:54] <Freddo_frog> well i installed ubuntu 8.04, and then i installed xubuntu-desktop. and now when i try to load xfce in the session thing in GDM, it just hangs
[11:54] <ere4si> ohh
[11:56] <Freddo_frog> ere4si: any idea what is going on?
[11:56] <ere4si> I've never had that - suriro ?
[11:56] <Freddo_frog> what is suriro?
[11:57] <ere4si> a person
[11:57] <ere4si> he was here before
[11:57] <Freddo_frog> ohh ok
[11:58] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: is the entry in sessions xfce or xubuntu?
[11:58] <velky> did you install from xubuntu disk or xfce onto an ubuntu install?
[11:58] <Freddo_frog> ere4si: it says xfce session
[11:58] <ere4si> yep cool
[11:58] <Freddo_frog> i installed xubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu install
[11:59] <velky> ....and at login you can chose xfce?
[11:59] <Freddo_frog> i can choose it
[11:59] <velky> but it does nt work?
[11:59] <Freddo_frog> yea
[11:59] <Freddo_frog> it seems to just hang
[12:00] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: I'd try in ubuntu   sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop   then   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   a reinstall so to speak
[12:00] <velky> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[12:01] <Freddo_frog> ere4si: thanks
[12:01] <ere4si> good luck Freddo_frog
[12:01] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: read velky 's link
[12:02] <latitu_> http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[12:03] <ere4si> latitu: you have three comps and two addresses?
[12:07] <suriro> Freddo_frog: some gnome stuff is locking display, it goes away if you kill X and retry.
[12:07] <Freddo_frog> suriro: really?
[12:07] <Freddo_frog> hang on
[12:07] <suriro> ctrl-alt-bkspace to kill X
[12:08] <ere4si> he beat you to it suriro
[12:08] <ere4si> hehe
[12:10] <Freddo_frog> suriro: it did not work
[12:10] <velky> quick question - from latitu s png - how do you know "three comps and two addresses" (be gentle i am relatively noo
[12:10] <suriro> Freddo_frog: you should press ctrl-alt-bkspace when it hangs, did you do so?
[12:11] <ere4si> velky: addresses 100 to 101
[12:11] <Freddo_frog> suriro: i pressed it when i left
[12:11] <ere4si> velky: and above he said he had 3 comps
[12:11] <Freddo_frog> then it loaded up the xubuntu gdm
[12:11] <velky> yep - cheers
[12:11] <Freddo_frog> but it still hangs
[12:12] <suriro> Freddo_frog: switch to console when it hangs, login as the user and check contents of .xsession-errors
[12:14] <Freddo_frog> suriro: how do i switch to the console
[12:14] <suriro> ctrl-alt-f1
[12:14] <Freddo_frog> hang on
[12:14] <Freddo_frog> i cannot log in there?
[12:14] <Freddo_frog> it is just a black screen
[12:16] <suriro> try f2, f3.. press enter
[12:16] <Freddo_frog> ok
[12:16] <Freddo_frog> ok i tried it
[12:17] <Freddo_frog> not working
[12:17] <Freddo_frog> where is .xessions-error
[12:17] <ere4si> ~/.xsessions-errors
[12:18] <suriro> Freddo_frog: sth's not right. You should get a login prompt.
[12:18] <Freddo_frog> suriro: i am aware of this lol
[12:18] <suriro> I suggest you stop here. Login to gnome session, remove gnome-screensaver package, then retry loging into xfce
[12:19] <Freddo_frog> could that be the problem?
[12:19] <Freddo_frog> hang on
[12:19] <suriro> my guess is gnome-screensaver is causing that locl
[12:19] <suriro> but I'm not entirely sure
[12:19] <suriro> you can reinstall it later
[12:19] <Freddo_frog> how do i remove that package sorry i am new to ubuntu
[12:20] <suriro> system>admin>synaptic package manager
[12:20] <Freddo_frog> lol
[12:20] <Freddo_frog> ok
[12:21] <Freddo_frog> i will be back in a sec
[12:23] <ere4si> suriro: thnx for coming in and helping - I was at the end of my knowledge with that :)
[12:23] <Freddo_frog> It works
[12:23] <Freddo_frog> =]
[12:24] <Freddo_frog> thanks suriro
[12:25] <ere4si> screensaver killing xfce hah - whoda thunk it?
[12:25] <velky> Horay!! i was just going to sugest get an xubuntu CD & start over!!!
[12:26] <Freddo_frog> Hey again
[12:26] <velky> collective sigh of relief....
[12:27] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: heh!
[12:27] <ere4si> or hay!
[12:27] <Freddo_frog> lol
[12:28] <Freddo_frog> what do you people like about ubuntu?
[12:28] <ere4si> the support and packaging does it for me
[12:29] <Freddo_frog> yeah
[12:29] <Freddo_frog> ere4si: what DE do you use?
[12:30] <velky> me too - been a bit of a distro tart since starting with linux - open suse - mandriva - there is a lot of help out on internet
[12:30] <ere4si> Freddo_frog: mostly fluxbox on dapper server 'cause I like light weight
[12:32] <Freddo_frog> yeah
[12:32] <Freddo_frog> velky: have you ever tried archlinux?
[12:33] <velky> freddo;: no - heard adout it.....
[12:33] <Freddo_frog> it is impressive
[12:35] <ere4si> takes a while to set up I've read
[12:37] <Freddo_frog> depends what you want to setup i guess
[12:37] <velky> lightweight i see - im looking for something light for a friend who wants to try linux on an old laptop - tend to think xubuntu would be good or ubuntu with fluxbox for sopport reasons and remote fidling - my main puter at the moment is linux mint so ubuntu based
[12:38] <ere4si> velky: there is the minimal cd
[12:38] <ere4si> !minimal
[12:39] <ere4si> velky: install cli from that then the wm and apps you need
[12:39] <Freddo_frog> i will brb
[12:39] <velky> i think the non graphic install would be best - laptop has only 128 ram.
[12:40] <velky> will check out link...
[12:40] <ere4si> !alternate
[12:42] <velky> we will probably give it a try with a live cd first to check out wireless and stuff - the alternative install - i have had problems installing graphic install on low ram puters
[12:43] <ere4si> velky: 192mb mem for xubuntulive cd
[12:43] <ere4si> *xubuntu live cd
[12:43] <Freddo_frog> i must admit ubuntu has got a few things right
[12:44] <velky> is that for install or could it manage a live session to check out hardware - no need for speed just checkout driver support
[12:44] <ere4si> velky: it would be way slow but should work - maybe
[12:44] <velky> then install from alt version after
[12:45] <ere4si> yep - or the live cd - just leave it overnight hehe
[12:46] <velky> i have a selection of cd to try DSL - puppy - Vista live - penultimate......
[12:46] <velky> we sfall give em a try
[12:57] <vidd> is there a freenode op here?
[12:58] <ere4si> vidd: do   /msg nickserv "stuff"
[13:02] <vidd> ere4si, are you a freenode op?
[13:02] <vidd> nickserv cant unban an IP
[13:02] <ere4si> vidd: not an anything op :)
[13:07] <Nebuchan> Hello
[13:07] <vidd> hello Nebuchan
[13:07] <Nebuchan> How are we?
[13:07] <vidd> could always be better.....
[13:08] <Nebuchan> As always :D
[13:08] <vidd> know any freenode ops?
[13:10] <Nebuchan> I have a problem... I cant mount removable devices. It comes up with an error "Only root can mount device". Any ideas?
[13:10] <vidd> yeah...sudo mount ....
[13:10] <Nebuchan> hmmm
[13:10] <vidd> only root can mount devices
[13:11] <vidd> so you must usesudo to mount them
[13:11] <Nebuchan> Is that done via terminal?
[13:11] <vidd> yes
[13:11] <Nebuchan> dang
[13:11] <vidd> why?
[13:11] <Nebuchan> i hate terminal
[13:11] <Nebuchan> is why
[13:11] <vidd> what are you trying to mount?
[13:12] <Nebuchan> What removable devices?
[13:12] <vidd> sure
[13:13] <Nebuchan> Well for one, its not a local device
[13:13] <Nebuchan> thats a plus
[13:13] <vidd> is smb installed?
[13:13] <Nebuchan> let me see
[13:14] <Nebuchan> I haven't hade much luck with xubuntu so far. I keep messing things up by accident
[13:15] <Nebuchan> FuseSMB?
[13:15] <vidd> remote shares is not my strong suite
[13:16] <vidd> i am not 100% sure
[13:17] <ere4si> Nebuchan: why not plug it in  the comp you're on?
[13:17] <Nebuchan> Well the last thing i screwed up was windows manager and i was left with no windows at all
[13:17] <Nebuchan> ummmm ok
[13:17] <vidd> you might try http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:1UrmNpOFClMJ:www.internet-matrix.net/xubuntu-samba.pdf+mount+remote+media+xubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[13:18] <vidd> nalioth, you around?
[13:19] <vidd> kloeri, can i ask your assistance?
[13:19] <Nebuchan> Damn i'm in no mood for syntax atm
[13:20] <Nebuchan> might aswell give up
[13:20] <vidd> Nebuchan, sorry...as i said...its notsomething i do alot
[13:20] <Nebuchan> :(
[13:20] <ere4si> Nebuchan: what filesystem nis on it?
[13:20] <vidd> in fact, i NEVER did it
[13:20] <ere4si> *is
[13:20] <Nebuchan> NTFS
[13:21] <ere4si> Nebuchan: and how is it listed in /dev - fdisk -l will tell
[13:21] <Nebuchan> -fdisk... as in format disk?
[13:22] <ere4si> fdisk -l as in list partions on all disks
[13:22] <Nebuchan> ok ok
[13:23] <ere4si> Nebuchan: might need sudo fdisk -l
[13:23] <Nebuchan> call me neb, its shorter
[13:24] <Nebuchan> ok, i'll try
[13:24] <ere4si> Nebuchan: I type neb and hit the tab key
[13:26] <Nebuchan> ok, so im a noob. No shame. I want to sudo a remove disk im pretty sure its sda1 whats the syntax for sda1 sudo?
[13:27] <ere4si> Nebuchan: remove is unmount?
[13:27] <Nebuchan> well its never has been mounted
[13:27] <ere4si> then sudo umount /dev/sda1 - but sda1 will be the first partition on the first hard drive
[13:28] <ere4si> so mount then
[13:28] <Nebuchan> Only have one local drive so i guess that makes it easier then
[13:29] <Nebuchan> and partition
[13:29] <ere4si> Nebuchan: you need to make a folder to mount it to first
[13:29] <ere4si> sudo mkdir /mediaq/somename
[13:29] <ere4si> oops
[13:29] <ere4si> Nebuchan: sudo mkdir /media/somename
[13:30] <latitu_> i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[13:30] <ere4si> Nebuchan: then sudo mount -v /dev/sda1 /media/somename
[13:30] <Nebuchan> The current mount dir is root/media/sda1
[13:30] <ere4si> oops again
[13:30] <Nebuchan> Its ok
[13:31] <ere4si> Nebuchan: sudo mount -vt ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/somename
[13:32] <latitu_> help
[13:34] <Nebuchan> Is "somename" the device name?
[13:35] <ere4si> Nebuchan: that is a folder that you will mount it to - somename = something you want to call it - could be anything
[13:36] <Nebuchan> Oh ok. Thanks
[13:42] <vidd> latitu_, what do you need help with
[13:42] <latitu_> i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png   please see this ?
[13:44] <vidd> is the second eth device actually named eth2?
[13:44] <vidd> what does ifconfig say?
[13:45] <vidd> it looks like there isnt anything plugged into eth2
[13:46] <vidd> do you have another computer connected (direct connect needs a cross-over cable)
[13:46] <vidd> (unless things have changed recently)
[13:46] <kloeri> vidd: hiya
[13:47] <vidd> kloeri, i had a freind put TOR on one of my machines(without consulting me first so i could tell him "Dont do it!")
[13:47] <vidd> and now the IP is banned
[13:48] <vidd> TOR has been removed
[13:48] <vidd> what do i need to do to get the IP unbanned?
[13:48] <kloeri> hmm, it takes a while before it's removed from our list of tor nodes
[13:48] <kloeri> how long has it been?
[13:49] <vidd> i removed it today
[13:49] <vidd> maybe an hour
[13:49] <velky> latitu_: where is eth0 - is that important and as ere4si said earlier you have only addresses 100 to 101 - am new to this but it may be important?
[13:49] <kloeri> ahh, it'll probably still be in our list then
[13:49] <kloeri> /msg me the IP and I'll remove the kline but it'll get added again automatically if it's still in our list when you reconnect
[13:49] <latitu_> velky ya. i have 2 pcs only
[13:50] <vidd> how long does it take to get off the list?
[13:51] <ere4si> latitu_: heh dsl = damn small linux mostly
[13:52] <latitu_> how do i setup eth2 ere4si
[13:52] <vidd> latitu_, first off....what does ifconfig tell you the eth device names are?
[13:53] <ere4si> latitu_: do the two cards show when you do   lspci   in a terminal or konsole?
[13:53] <latitu_> dont you think http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php will help completely?
[13:53] <latitu_> vidd how to see ifconfig?
[13:54] <vidd> open terminal and type it
[13:54] <latitu_> ere4si i can see both cards
[13:55] <vidd> and what are they named in ifconfig?
[13:55] <ere4si> latitu_: and what does   ifconfig   say?
[13:55] <latitu_> its a one page
[13:55] <vidd> usually, you will see eth0, eth1, and lo
[13:55] <latitu_> which one should i pase
[13:55] <latitu_> ya.
[13:55] <latitu_> i see all
[13:55] <vidd> eth0, eth1, and lo?
[13:55] <latitu_> but eth1 2 lo
[13:55] <vidd> or eth1, eth2, and lo?
[13:55] <latitu_> but eth1 2 lo
[13:56] <latitu_> eth1, eth2, and lo?
[13:56] <vidd> ok...
[13:56] <latitu_> eth1 is dsl. works fine.
[13:56] <ere4si> should be an etho 0
[13:56] <latitu_> how i setup eth2 ?
[13:56] <latitu_> nop
[13:56] <vidd> ere4si, there are some situations that eth0 is not shown
[13:56] <vidd> usually from changing a NIC
[13:56] <ere4si> latitu_: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:56] <vidd> anyway
[13:57] <ere4si> !paste
[13:57] <vidd> are you using a cross-over cable in eth2, or a normal cable in eth2?
[13:57] <latitu_> auto lo
[13:57] <latitu_> iface lo inet loopback
[13:57] <latitu_> address 127.0.0.1
[13:57] <latitu_> netmask 255.0.0.0
[13:58] <latitu_> ignore this. its changed since i changed my connection. but this is not changed. iface eth0 inet static
[13:58] <latitu_> address 192.168.3.175
[13:58] <latitu_> netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:58] <latitu_> gateway 192.168.3.1
[13:58] <latitu_> auto eth0
[13:58] <latitu_> iface eth2 inet static
[13:58] <latitu_> address 192.168.0.1
[13:58] <latitu_> netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:58] <latitu_> auto eth2
[13:58] <latitu_> thats al
[13:58] <ere4si> !paste | latitu_
[13:59] <ere4si> latitu_: what about the one you use now?
[14:00] <latitu_> what do you mean
[14:01] <vidd> there is nothing for eth1
[14:01] <ere4si> it looks all wrong
[14:02] <ere4si> and what's that about ignore this bit?
[14:02] <latitu_> eth1 is dsl. dhcp
[14:02] <ere4si> latitu_: use the pastebin
[14:02] <vidd> but it is not shown
[14:02] <vidd> anyway....
[14:03] <vidd> latitu_, are you using a crossover cable on eth2??????
[14:03] <latitu_> whats crossover?
[14:04] <vidd> it is a special type of cable used to dirrectly connect one computer directly to another
[14:04] <maxamillion> swing and a miss
[14:04] <ere4si> I'm off to bed - good luck vidd
[14:04] <latitu_> vidd yes.
[14:04] <vidd> if you are not using a cross-over cable it will NEVER work
[14:04] <latitu_> iam using a cable that has to pcs with 2 lan cards
[14:05] <latitu_> at both ends.
[14:05] <vidd> have you verified it is a crossover cable?
[14:05] <latitu_> ill buy  switch if i need more pcs
[14:05] <latitu_> yes
[14:05] <latitu_> how to i setup static ip for the other pc. and the connection on my pc
[14:05] <vidd> so it is different from the one that goes to the DSL?
[14:05] <latitu_> thats the prob
[14:06] <vidd> latitu_, no...that is not the problem
[14:06] <vidd> the broblem is, your machine is not seeing the second machine connected to it
[14:07] <vidd> expand the dhcp range, and try connecting via dhcp
[14:07] <vidd> ill bet you dollars to donuts that it still fails because you are using a standard cable instead of a crossover cable
[14:08] <latitu_> what do i put in eth2 configs?
[14:08] <latitu_> on my pc
[14:09] <vidd> if you hold the ends of the cable side-by-side, are all wires in the same order? (same color in the same location)?
[14:09] <latitu_> yes
[14:09] <vidd> looks like the settings are correct
[14:09] <vidd> latitu_, then you are NOT using a cross-over cable and it will NEVER work
[14:10] <vidd> get a switch, plug this into the uplink and the other into a jack, and it will
[14:10] <vidd> but as it is right now, it wont work
[14:11] <vidd> its a hardware issue, not a config issue
[14:11] <latitu_> hm
[14:11] <latitu_> k
[14:12] <vidd> and if your going to buy a switch, might just as well get a router, and forget all the headaches!
[14:13] <vidd> =]
[14:14] <vidd> you can tell if the cable is a cross-over cable by holding the ends together....the order will be different....not completely oposite, but different
[14:14] <latitu_> hm
[14:15] <latitu_> ok
[14:15] <vidd> they are usually marked differently (red or orange in color, or have odd colored ends
[14:16] <vidd> you local computer hardware store should be able to assist you in finding the appropriate cable
[14:28] <latitu_> its working
[14:28] <latitu_> i followed http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[14:28] <vidd> glad to hear it
[14:28] <latitu_> :)
[14:28] <latitu_> i dont know what i did my self. but its working
[14:28] <latitu_> ^_-
[14:28] <killsalad>  hi i've got a problem with unlock button in users-admin
[14:28] <vidd> what is the issue?
[14:29] <killsalad> is blocked - user is in proper groups
[14:29] <vidd> which group is that user in?
[14:29] <killsalad> i've tried some workarounds but with no effect
[14:29] <killsalad> adm,admin,policykituser
[14:29] <latitu_> vidd now how can is assigne ips of my choice. so that no other ip can be used by the other computer(s) and how can i limit each pcs banddwidth? or make a combined bandiwdth limit for 2 computers?
[14:30] <vidd> latitu_, no clue
[14:30] <vidd> i use a router for that stuff
[14:31] <latitu_> i use linux >my pc
[14:31] <vidd> asfar as setting IP's, you should be able to set the static IP normally
[14:32] <latitu_> the client seems to set any ip he wants.
[14:32] <latitu_> i dont want that.
[14:32] <killsalad> any clue with my problem?
[14:33] <vidd> killsalad, did you reboot?
[14:34] <killsalad> right now
[14:34] <vidd> latitu_, you cant stop a pc from saying "i am xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[14:34] <killsalad> well it's LTSP server and there's no real acces to this machine
[14:34] <vidd> you can only say "if this MAC addess does not equal xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx you shall have no access"
[14:35] <vidd> killsalad, that is outside the scope of my experience
[14:35] <vidd> =\
[14:35] <latitu_> vidd  i set the static ip in the pcs lan settings. but if i set any ip... it uses it. that means the client can set any ip.  i dont want that
[14:36] <vidd> latitu_, that is unfortunant...you cannot stop that
[14:37] <latitu_> oh. ic
[14:37] <latitu_> no way?
[14:37] <latitu_>  i want to restrict the ip. and then force my band limits for each ip....        some ips get 20k/s some 10k/s  got the idea?
[14:37] <vidd> i can tell my local machine its IP address, netmask, and gateway are whatever i wont
[14:38] <latitu_> is there a way that the server. me. wont allow any ip from out of a rang i define?
[14:38] <vidd> doesnt mean my gateway will accept the data and pass traffic
[14:38] <vidd> oh...yes
[14:38] <vidd> you say "this IP has this setting, that IP has that setting
[14:39] <vidd> or better yet...this MAC address has this setting, that MAC address has that setting
[14:39] <latitu_> how do i say that
[14:39] <latitu_> ya . mac is better?
[14:39] <vidd> get nice and cosy with your firewall software documentation
[14:39] <latitu_> nice?
[14:39] <latitu_> cosy?
[14:39] <vidd> yes...MAC is always the same, IP address can change
[14:39] <velky> latitu; not read it but this may help http://lwn.net/1998/1119/shaper.html
[14:40] <latitu_> velky ok
[14:41] <latitu_> vidd or how about allowing them as many ips thay wana use. but use a proxy on my machine to control bandwidth and pcs. one user name and pass. that has a limited band?
[14:41] <latitu_> what is the better idea?
[14:41] <latitu_> or any other?
[14:42] <vidd> latitu_, this is all stuff outside my expertise (AKA nothing ive ever tried b4)
[14:43] <latitu_> hm
[14:43] <latitu_> ok
[14:43] <vidd> my advise would be akin to the blind leading the deaf
[14:43] <vidd> maxamillion, you have any input for latitu_ ?
[14:44] <latitu_> someone said i need wondershaper
[16:32] <sugardrunkk> hello
[16:33] <sugardrunkk> how do I change the charset in terminal or/and shell terminal?
[16:37] <Myrtti> sugardrunkk: irssi problems?
[16:37] <Myrtti> or more than that
[16:47] <sugardrunkk> help
[16:47] <sugardrunkk> :D
[16:48] <sugardrunkk> I need a way to change my charset on XFCE Terminal (xterm?)
[16:49] <zoredache> edit->prefs->appears ?
[16:49] <zoredache> appearance*
[16:50] <sugardrunkk> nothing... :)
[16:50] <TheSheep> sugardrunkk: just export apropriate LANG or LC variable
[16:51] <TheSheep> sugardrunkk: locales gives you a list
[16:51] <TheSheep> sugardrunkk: locales -a gives you a list of possible values
[16:51] <sugardrunkk> "Terminal itself does not (yet) include builtin support for switching encodings on the fly in a terminal session. But since Terminal implements an UTF-8 mode, you can use the Luit application to switch between different character encodings within a terminal session."
[16:51] <sugardrunkk> XFCE4 terminal...
[16:51] <sugardrunkk> I think I'm just going to change it..
[16:53] <Myrtti> sugardrunkk: are you having problems with connecting to your screened irssi session on a remote server or are you having other problems as well with charsets?
[16:56] <sugardrunkk> yes with the shell, i can type Ä and Ö in there, but not read them on screen
[16:57] <Myrtti> did you attach your screen with screen -U
[16:58] <sugardrunkk> i Can always connect with Konsole (KDE) or suchs, as I can change the encoding in GUI
[16:58] <sugardrunkk> but with the terminal I don't know how
[16:59] <Myrtti> sugardrunkk: did you reattach your irssi session with -U
[17:00] <sugardrunkk> Won't help
[17:00] <Myrtti> well that was only the first step
[17:00] <Myrtti> then you need to set your irssi with the correct options
[17:00] <sugardrunkk> Myrtti: the shell and screened irssi both work without -U work with Konsole
[17:00] <sugardrunkk> Myrtti: as I set the encoding to iso8859-1
[17:01] <Myrtti> sugardrunkk: exactly
[17:02] <Myrtti> install luit then
[17:02] <sugardrunkk> :)
[17:02] <Myrtti> if you want to set it from the terminal
[17:03] <Myrtti> it's not the exactly right way of doing things, and you'd get better results configuring your irssi correctly, but since you don't want to do it like that, install luit or use some other terminal
[17:05] <sugardrunkk> hmm but my irssi works fine on zenwalk, mac and  windows XP, but maybe I just set them also in the "luit" way :D
[17:05] <sugardrunkk> what's wrong with me :D
[17:06] <sugardrunkk> Myrtti: thanks :)
[17:06]  * sugardrunkk is less confused about the world right now :)
[17:37] <MythGuy> can anybody help me with a sound problem?
[17:38] <Myrtti> there's no way of knowing before you elaborate on your question a bit more
[17:38] <Stroganoff> if it isnt xubuntu specific i'd ask in #ubuntu
[17:38] <MythGuy> oh.
[17:38] <MythGuy> ok.
[17:38] <Stroganoff> you dont have to
[17:39] <Stroganoff> !elaborate | MythGuy, just
[17:39] <MythGuy> I will if this channel doesn't help.
[17:39] <MythGuy> When I run an mp3 file the player freezes and I have to force quit it.
[17:40] <MythGuy> I also don't have system sounds or anything.
[17:40] <duse|> Hello all -- I have a desktop running on Xubuntu right now, no internet. I'm going to grab a wireless adapter hopefully not a card because they are a bit expensive, im gonna buy something for about $30-40 What is a good one that will surely work with linux?
[17:40] <MythGuy> (and yes, I have checked that my speakers are plugged in, on, and connected to the proper place.)
[17:41] <Stroganoff> check if
[17:41] <Stroganoff> oops
[17:41] <Stroganoff> reinstall alsa-base
[17:41] <MythGuy> ok.
[17:41] <Stroganoff> !wifi | duse|
[17:42] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:43] <duse|> Stroganoff 	It has to be on the Atheros chipset?
[17:46] <MythGuy> Stroganoff: what should I do after that?
[17:48] <MythGuy> I've re-installed alsa-base. Do I need to restart or anything?
[18:05] <redwhitewaldo> ﻿how can i know what my computer is using for its sound manager (whether pulseaudio or something else)? thanks
[18:50] <spinx> hi guys
[18:50] <spinx> i just burned the xubuntu cd and tried booting. and it says "boot: cannot find kernel linux"
[18:58] <Stroganoff> spinx use the alternate cd and/or burn at lower speed and/or verify the burn
[18:58] <spinx> theres nothing i can type on it?
[19:15] <floating> is there a gui to download/upload from ftp in default xubuntu ?
[19:15] <floating> when i type in thunar: ftp://url  it doesnt work..
[19:22] <Volkodav_> try gftp
[19:26] <floating> aa^^ i have tried this before yeah this is oki
[19:31] <floating> hmm dangg... i wonder how i can associate mms:// to a program in firefox, it jus says it not associated. maybe i outa edit about:config or so ai?
[19:32] <Stroganoff> floating: gconf-editor2
[19:32] <Stroganoff> no
[19:33] <Stroganoff> or maybe yes
[19:35] <Stroganoff> gconf-editor -> desktop -> gnome -> url-handlers
[19:35] <Stroganoff> floating
[19:36] <Stroganoff> i'd try there first
[19:37] <floating> but i would need to install that first
[19:38] <Stroganoff> maybe
[19:40] <floating> okz, there is already mms with entry totem "%s" and is tagged enabled
[19:41] <floating> firefox doesnt know how to open this program since the protocol(mms) is not associated with any program
[19:41] <floating> s/program/address
[19:44] <floating> ah, about:config needs a value
[19:44] <floating> strange
[20:11] <duse|> how can i play mp3 files in xubuntu --- when the computer doesn't have a internet connection? is there something i can transfer over via usb and install?
[21:05] <slider2800> Hi all.
[21:05] <Odd-rationale> hello, slider2800
[21:06] <slider2800> um... can someone help me with a tricky one? i try to get Metacity and its themes working under Xubuntu 8.04... i'm hangin on google since early in the afternoon...
[21:06] <slider2800> but only found stuff how to replace metacity with xfwm4
[21:09] <slider2800> is it even possible?
[21:10] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: so you want to replace xfwin4 with metacity?
[21:10] <slider2800> yes
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: do you have metacity installed?
[21:11] <slider2800> yes
[21:11] <slider2800> i just isntalled it with apt
[21:11] <slider2800> and it actually works too.
[21:11] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: try alt+f2 and type in "metacity --replace" ?
[21:11] <slider2800> but i don't know how to set the themes AND make it the default window manager
[21:11] <slider2800> um... never knew about that :P lol
[21:11] <slider2800> i try
[21:12] <slider2800> well... it works now...
[21:13] <slider2800> hmm...
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: a crude way would be to run "metacity --replace
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> "
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> on start up
[21:13] <slider2800> oh. so --replace doesn't make it default?
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: no.
[21:13] <slider2800> damn.
[21:14] <Odd-rationale> or you could fine where xfce start xfwm4 and replace it with metacity...
[21:14] <slider2800> yea... that could be a good idea.
[21:14] <slider2800> where are the startup scripts for the GUI ? any ideas?
[21:15] <slider2800> i'm still somewhat a n00b when it comes to this kind of stuff
[21:15] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: i dunno... let me see...
[21:15] <slider2800> k
[21:21] <Odd-rationale> hey, cody-somerville_! Do you know where the file that start xfwm4 is located?
[21:22] <cody-somerville_> /usr/bin/startxfce4 ?
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> slider2800 wants to replace it with metacity...
[21:23] <cody-somerville> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:23] <deserteagle> hello all
[21:23] <cody-somerville> hiya
[21:23] <slider2800> um. would that be a good idea on an old PII Compaq Deskpro? i've got 128Mb Ram + a 400Mhz CPU
[21:23] <deserteagle> i'm trying to install xffm, but it won't run
[21:24] <deserteagle> i installed the deb, but it reports some error with glib
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: i guess the easiest way to do it would be to go to Applications --> Settings --> Settings Manager --> Autostarted apps and create one for metacity --replace
[21:25] <slider2800> i see...
[21:25] <ere4si> xfce4 does compositing - why use metacity?
[21:25] <Odd-rationale> slider2800: yes. and the best way would be to stick to xfwm4 ;)
[21:26] <slider2800> because xfwm can't use the ones i liked in metacity.
[21:26] <slider2800> i don't really care about compositing atm.
[21:26] <ere4si> slider2800: aahhh you want a theme
[21:26] <slider2800> besides. that would slow my machine down.
[21:27] <slider2800> yea.. but i've been trough with xfce-look.org several times.
[21:27] <slider2800> didn't find any really useful theme there
[21:28] <slider2800> or... is there a way to use metacity themes in xfwm4 ?
[21:28] <deserteagle> anyone else had issues running xfce under regular ubuntu?
[21:28] <ere4si> deserteagle: you need to install xubuntu-desktop to use it right
[21:28] <deserteagle> oh
[21:29] <deserteagle> thank you, i'll try it out
[21:29] <ere4si> good luck :)
[21:29] <deserteagle> oh, btw, can i run xffm under openbox?
[21:29] <ere4si> I wouldn't know
[21:30] <ere4si> bye
[21:31] <deserteagle> anyone know of a minimal yet decent looking file manager?
[21:31] <slider2800> ookay. i think i sleep over the whole thing and try again tomorrow.
[21:31] <slider2800> thanks anyway for the help
[21:31] <slider2800> goodnight guys!
[21:31]  * danielm loves thunar
[21:47] <MythGuy> how do I search?
[21:48] <zoredache> search what?
[21:48] <MythGuy> for files.
[21:51] <TheSheep> MythGuy: with the commands 'locate' and 'find', depedning on what you want to search for
[21:51] <TheSheep> MythGuy: also 'grep'
[21:51] <MythGuy> thank you
[21:52] <TheSheep> MythGuy: you can also install tracker to keep an index of your files and do very quick searches
[21:52] <TheSheep> MythGuy: it comes with a gui
[21:52] <MythGuy> I'll likely do that.
[22:13] <zoredache> is the displayconfig supposed to be on the menu somewhere?
[22:14] <Myrtti> it's not even in ubuntu
[22:16] <Volkodav_> what's the gui program to convert video to dvd format
[22:22] <Odd-rationale> Volkodav_: dvdauthor ?
[22:23] <Volkodav_> well I try qdvdauthor and it will error on any video I try to add to it
[22:23] <Volkodav_> and my cam outputs .mov files in mpeg2
[22:24] <PsynoKhi0> Hi, is PulseAudio known for not liking ISA soundcards?
[22:29] <crimsun> not particularly.
[22:30] <crimsun> meaning it should work just fine with them given ALSA loads the appropriate (correct) driver.
[22:33] <PsynoKhi0> I had Gutsy perfectly stable, but in Hardy, it's lockups galore
[22:35] <xubuntuser> I'm running xubuntu as a guest in virtualbox. How do I increase the screen resolution? (The "display preferences" in "Xfce settings manager" only has "default" and "640x480@60" as options)
[22:39] <crimsun> PsynoKhi0: can you isolate the lockups?
[22:39] <crimsun> PsynoKhi0: namely, what's(re) the common denominator(s)?
[22:39] <PsynoKhi0> crimsun: not sure yet
[22:40] <Roy_Mustang> goooood evening everyone, question: i've installed Xubuntu 8.04 on my pc, runing along with my crappy XP, 3 dif partitions, 1 xp, 1 for storage,1 for xubunut+swap, how should i do to acces my xp and storage partitions from xubuntu? thanks!!
[22:41] <Roy_Mustang> xp and storage are NTS partitions
[22:41] <Roy_Mustang> *NTFS
[22:42] <PsynoKhi0> crimsun: they tend to happen faster if I have my wired connection up and running
[22:44] <PsynoKhi0> crimsun: stuff that makes the comp lock up: mp3s, AVIs (tried both Totem and VLC), OpenArena, Wesnoth... stuff that doesn't: Pidgin, browsing (haven't tried any flash stuff though), standard office apps, Egoboo, Znes
[22:46] <PsynoKhi0> Roy_Mustang: check that you have ntfs-3g installed (you should have it) then look at your /etc/fstab file
[22:47] <Roy_Mustang> PsynoKhi0: i'll reboot and check, back in 5min :P
[22:49] <Roy_Mustang> now i'm here, if i gat ntfs-3g instlled, i should add something like this on fstab: /dev/sda1 /Windows1 ntfs ro 1 0
[22:49] <Roy_Mustang> am i correct¿
[22:50] <WildChild7> hello there
[22:50] <WildChild7> I was in #ubuntu and they suggest me to use xubuntu instead of ubuntu since I have only 368mb of ram and 1100MHZ cpu
[22:51] <WildChild7> why is xubuntu lighter and less hungry than ubuntu ?
[22:51] <PsynoKhi0> Roy_Mustang: isn't there anything about that in your fstab?
[22:51] <WildChild7> why should I use xubuntu instead of ubuntu ?
[22:51] <PsynoKhi0> WildChild7: lightweight apps in xubuntu
[22:51] <Roy_Mustang> i didnt check, so im gonna do that right now, i'll be back 8-)
[22:52] <PsynoKhi0> compared to ubuntu
[22:52] <xubuntuser> also Xfce instead of gnome
[22:52] <PsynoKhi0> mostly the desktop environment
[22:52] <WildChild7> xubuntuser: and Xfce is sommehow lightweight ?
[22:53] <xubuntuser> lighter than gnome anyway.
[22:53] <WildChild7> but firefox 3 beta is included ?
[22:53] <xubuntuser> yes
[22:53] <WildChild7> I have this integrated card sis
[22:53] <WildChild7> I think
[22:53] <WildChild7> how can I check if it's compatabile and has full support
[22:53] <WildChild7> sis == graphic caard
[22:53] <WildChild7> card*
[22:55] <xubuntuser> if you have a copy, you have enough ram to try a xubuntu live boot
[22:55] <WildChild7> xubuntuser: erm... I'll install with alternate
[22:56] <WildChild7> I'm loading it as we speak
[22:58] <PsynoKhi0> installing from Xubuntu's LiveCD "only" requires 192MB unless I'm mistaken
[22:58] <WildChild7> I have graphic card SiS 300/305/630/540/730 (16 MB)
[22:58] <WildChild7> how would I know if it's on a support list
[22:59] <WildChild7> I really wouldn't like to run vesa or smth..
[22:59] <PsynoKhi0> your best bet would be googling for "sis ubuntu" :)
[22:59] <WildChild7> PsynoKhi0: maybem but with alternate I will install faster
[23:00] <PsynoKhi0> uh... not that big a difference really
[23:00] <PsynoKhi0> IMO
[23:01] <WildChild7> PsynoKhi0: force of habit.. I have an ati on my lappy and I had to install it with alternate cause of xorg problems..
[23:03] <WildChild7> damn it..
[23:03] <WildChild7> not looking so good :(
[23:03] <WildChild7> sis is not well supported in linux
[23:03] <WildChild7> well at least SiS motherboards
[23:04] <WildChild7> My computer board is: Matsonic MS7308E and only graphic card is SiS
[23:04] <WildChild7> or is  this the same
[23:05] <PsynoKhi0> bbl
[23:06] <xubuntuser> How do I increase the screen resolution in xubuntu?
[23:16] <floating> $ tar -cf neural\ networks\ and\ agent\ technologies\ exercises/
[23:16] <floating> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[23:16] <floating> Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.
[23:16] <floating> why not tar ?
[23:18] <ere4si> read man tar - you have to give a filename to tar to
[23:18] <floating> i read my unix teachers guide page
[23:19] <floating> there it says tar -cf packet file
[23:19] <floating> i mean hm dir
[23:19] <floating> aeh..hmm
[23:19] <floating> i cant compress a directory ?... pretty strange
[23:20] <ere4si> you gave the dir but not file
[23:20] <floating> tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/ tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[23:20] <floating> yeah i dont want exernals file
[23:20] <floating> maybe that works
[23:20] <floating> ah oh
[23:20] <floating> :)
[23:20] <ere4si> :)
[23:24] <Roy_Mustang> i'm back! i 've asked about the NTFS partition on xubuntu like 15min ago, i chequed and i DONT have instaled ntfs-3g and i DONT have any line in fstab pointing to the ntfs partitions, any clue?
[23:26] <Roy_Mustang> there's a package to install in the package manager, but everytime i try to install it it asks me to connecto to internet, thing that i can't do right now from xubuntu
[23:27] <ere4si> Roy_Mustang: what version of xubuntu are you using?
[23:27] <Roy_Mustang> 8.04
[23:28] <ere4si> Roy_Mustang: without being able to install ntfs-3g you might have some trouble accessing that patition - can you get the net working?
[23:31] <Roy_Mustang> isnt a way to download the package in my runing XP and copy it via USB devide or floppy discs?
[23:33] <ere4si> Roy_Mustang: you can try but you might miss some dependencies and then it won't work...why not plug the cable from the xp machine into the xubuntu one?
[23:34] <Roy_Mustang> cause there is only one machine :P that's why i got to reboot, cause both systems are in the same pc... this one :P
[23:34] <xubuntuser> ntfs-3g is supposed to come with xubuntu. it's in /bin
[23:34] <Roy_Mustang> i'l try bringing to life the net ;)
[23:36] <ere4si> that's what I thought
[23:37] <Roy_Mustang> ok, im reboooting... once again, and as i get it working ill come to tell, thanks all!!
[23:50] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, ping
[23:50] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: pong
[23:50] <cody-somerville>  /^([^\n\r]*?)\r?\n(.*)/s
[23:50] <cody-somerville> How can I modify that to also find [[BR]]
[23:50] <cody-somerville> Also, what does it currently find? :P
[23:51] <TheSheep> this is some adness
[23:51] <TheSheep> madness
[23:52] <TheSheep> bascially, the first paren is a line, the second is everything that follows that line
[23:52] <TheSheep> the pattern is very clumsy and inefficient
[23:53] <xubuntuser> How do I change resolution in xubuntu?
[23:53] <TheSheep> xubuntuser: settings->setting manager->display
[23:54] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: not sure what the s flag does in perl
[23:54] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, This is for PHP
[23:54] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: php uses perl syntax
[23:54] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: at least for regexps
[23:55] <cody-somerville> According to my regexp cheat sheet
[23:55] <xubuntuser> That has only two options, Default, and 640x480@60. I got up to 1280x800 in Ubuntu on the same hardware. How do I get more resolutions?
[23:55] <cody-somerville>  /s means treat string as single line
[23:55] <TheSheep> xubuntuser: try setting your card with 'displayconfig-gtk' from terminal
[23:56] <TheSheep> xubuntuser: put a gksu in front of it