[00:00] made in /etc/ [00:00] then trhow in /etc :) [00:00] and probably some other folders [00:00] which means i would rather backup the whole system [00:00] why would you ever need to modify anything outside /home and /etc? [00:00] but the rofs folder is exceptionally large [00:00] it probably contains itself :) [00:01] another thiing is i wouldn't feel like redownloading the files [00:02] oh well, i think i will make my own tests to find out [00:10] Hi. I just pressed ctrl-alt-escape just to check that is was the graphical xkill, but I don't actually want to kill anything right now. How do I get our of it? [00:11] *out [00:14] Macskeeball2: right-click [00:15] Whew. Thanks. [00:22] this is kind of a finger-of-doom feeling :) [00:35] hey has anyone here got dualscreen working with a intel i810 ? [00:38] navetz: i don't think the i810 will do dual screens ... doesn't it only have 1 vga out? [00:38] maxamillion: well I am trying to do it with my laptop [00:39] maxamillion: so my laptop as one screen, and an extrenal monitor as another. [00:39] navetz: ah ... hmmm, nope i've had no success with that (granted i haven't done much digging) ... but if you do find it please let me know, i have a laptop that i would find that to be useful with [00:41] maxamillion: i know it is possible, I almost had it set up before. This time I am getting blank screens and I can't figure out how to fix it. [00:41] oh ... huh :( [00:41] navetz: have you checked the ubuntu wiki? there's normally good stuff there [00:47] maxamillion: yea I followed it but its not working :( [00:48] oh ... :( [00:55] Good morning [01:02] * jms1989_xp is away: I'm busy [03:21] hi [03:21] hello [03:21] the XFCE panels (the desktop panels) have disappeared after rebooting [03:21] I've clicked on Settings -> Panel setting, but it doesn't brings the panel dialog [03:22] try running xfce4-panel [03:23] I've tried login with my girlfriends users, and her desktop has the panels there [03:24] zoredache: sorry, didn't see your messages [03:24] thanks [03:24] the panels are back [03:24] :) [03:34] zoredache: ok, panels are back, but for some reason, all the output of Quicksynergy (a gui app) is appearing on the terminal [03:35] I've also tried running xfce4-panel from the Run command (alt+f2) dialog [03:35] but it's the same [03:35] other apps doesn't seem to be redirecting any output to the terminal, just quicksynergy [03:45] Mannequin: I don't know what that is.. but you might try logging out and in again [03:45] yes, I will, thanks [03:46] I suspect it may just be a one-time glitch... do make sure you choose to save your session when you logout [03:54] (Xubuntu 7.10) - I changed themes, and new messages in pidgin no longer make the status bar thing blink. [03:54] Not the 'tray'/notification icon- but the .. [03:54] Heck, I'm missing the terminology. [03:55] wait - I stan corrected, it's just ad ifferent style of blinking that I don't notice as clearly. [03:56] nuts.... I was going to ask you how to make the blinking stop It annoys the hell out of me [04:18] good night!! [04:19] i'm looking for help, should i simply drop my question here? [04:22] yes [04:22] !ask [04:22] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [04:22] <|Killabuntu|> hey guys whats the best burning program for xubuntu? [04:24] |Killabuntu|: I use cdrecord and mkisofs directly, but I suppose you where hoping for a gui [04:24] <|Killabuntu|> yes [04:24] <|Killabuntu|> i am half human still [04:25] Question: i've downloaded xubuntu 8.04 alternate cd for my p3750 128Mb ram 20gb disc, liberated 2gb with Partition magic from WinXP. burned the cd, but afeter it loads gets me a md5 sum error on debian-installer, burned twice and the result it's the same, md5sum after download is correct, is there any issue that i missed or just bad luck? thanks!! [04:26] <|Killabuntu|> try a diff mirror if not an official one? save to a diff directory, ues a diff browser [04:26] done, 2 diff mirros, 2 diferent browsers [04:26] Roy_Mustang: it sounds like your cd-drive may be dieing? [04:26] <|Killabuntu|> buy a new computer [04:27] since the md5 of the iso checked out it is unlikely you had a bad download [04:28] |Killabuntu| xDDD sure, i'll give my account numbre you can loan me some euros xDD. the cd-drive is a DVD recorder, only 6 month use [04:28] you could try investigating alternate install methods like booting off a usb disk if your computer supports it [04:29] <|Killabuntu|> guysss [04:29] <|Killabuntu|> whats a good burning prog for xubuntu [04:29] <|Killabuntu|> tell me so i can pee on winxp [04:30] |Killabuntu|: you could look through the add/remove programs and simply try things [04:30] <|Killabuntu|> no theres no net on this box yet [04:30] <|Killabuntu|> im gonna use it to just burn progs for now [04:32] mmm i found that i can't boot my pc from usb, i need a new pc, but i can boot from floppy and install from USB, i'll try that onde, thanks guys! [04:33] <|Killabuntu|> pcs are so cheap [04:33] <|Killabuntu|> i saw amd phenom proc 3gbram, 500 hd so cheap [04:35] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache how do u add stuff via command line [04:36] jejeje, the thing is that i live in argentina, and here pc arent so accesible to everyone, i got this one for almost 7 years, and never get to buy another one [04:36] <|Killabuntu|> why [04:36] <|Killabuntu|> i thouht argentia is very progressing [04:36] <|Killabuntu|> didnt know u guys are like a village [04:37] if you are asking how you install things you can use 'apt-get install {package}' or if you have downlaod the correct .deb files then you use 'dpkg -i {filename.deb}' [04:37] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache i mean [04:37] <|Killabuntu|> how do u add stuff to a command line burner [04:38] you use mkisofs to build an iso.. then you use cdrecord to write that to the drive [04:38] only in certain pats of the country, around Capital its quite accesible, but when u get far from it, its hard to get things, plus inflation and lots and lots of economic problems, anyway, thanks for the help ;) [04:39] Roy_Mustang: another though might be to use the mini.iso It is a lot smaller and so might work [04:39] !mini [04:39] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [04:41] i dont think it works, i have a usb modem that it's a pain in the *ss it already hard to find the drivers for linux i dont think it works in the installer [04:42] ah... :| [04:43] yea, i think i'm gonna go crazy before getting xubuntu installed xD [04:44] <|Killabuntu|> zoredache how do u brun a bunc hof mp3s, etc [04:45] Question: wubi supports Xubuntu instalation? [04:46] <|Killabuntu|> wats wubi [04:46] <|Killabuntu|> a new teletubby member [04:47] Wubi is an installer that uses a process similar to what described in this page, but the installation takes place within a file inside Windows, and hence, differently from the other approaches, it does not require to modify the partitions. In any case, if you later want install it to a dedicated partition, you can do it. See http://wubi-installer.org. [04:47] <|Killabuntu|> :( [04:47] ¬¬ anyway i cant execute it xDDDDD [04:49] <|Killabuntu|> XDDDDD [04:50] i'm getting frustrated [04:54] <|Killabuntu|> xubuntu is dl at 40kb/se [04:54] <|Killabuntu|> bs mirrors [04:55] i'm gonna use UNebootin [04:56] <|Killabuntu|> ok [04:56] it's a program that installs linux by making a partition on the disk and installing from there [04:56] im going to sleep now, thanks guys [05:20] <|Killabuntu|> anyone here use HTC phones === ere4sli is now known as ere4si [06:16] Hi, I restarted my computer, and when I got to my desktop my top panel disappeared?? and when I put in "xfce-setting-show" into the terminal and click "panel" nothing pops up [06:17] but everything else works, like "display" and "sessions and start up" [06:17] what command do I type into the terminal to restart xfwm4 [06:18] try xfce4-panel & [06:19] Thank you so much :D [06:20] thats what I was looking for... a quick google didn't display anything [06:20] hmmm so when I close the terminal, the panel disappears [06:21] how do I add it to start up? [06:21] close the terminal by typing exit [06:22] it should restart as you would use the same session [06:22] thanks alot [06:34] morning folks === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [08:02] Can someone help me with a display problem in Xfce.? [08:07] !ask [08:07] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [08:08] !night [08:08] It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds. This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question. Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake. This is particularly true in the quieter channels. [08:13] Alrite..Here's the problem I face in Xubuntu.Sometimes, after the loading screen at boot-up, I have no display on monitor. [08:14] The problem occurs randomly and I don't recall doing anything to trigger this sort of thing. [08:17] when you have no display does the console still work? [08:17] ctrl-alt-f1 [08:19] Never tried accessing console when there is no display.I restart the PC when no display and the thing boots up fine. [08:19] my random guess would be that there is some screen resolution auto-detection that isn't guessing right some of the time [08:20] I am not sure where to set it, but perhaps look something to force the resolution/color depth [08:20] I have following resolutions in xorg.conf [08:20] "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" [08:20] This is for my 15 inch HCL monitor [08:22] default color depth in xorg.conf is set to 24 [09:30] im running the live cd for 8.04 and the text in the menus and application windows is enormous [09:30] whats the deal with that [09:34] ? [09:35] mstef: what is the screen resolution? [09:35] i dont know..i cant naviagate any windows..but the bottom task bar looks perfect [09:35] wallpaper looks fine [09:36] each word is like 20% of the screen [09:37] mstef: is it a nvidia vid card? [09:37] dont know..its not my computer..its an older toshiba notebook [09:40] mstef: open the applications - system settings menu - you can hold down the alt key and use the mouse to drag a window up - open desktop I think it is and check the default font size [09:43] i unchecked 'use system font size'...made custom font size 4 and nothing changed [09:45] mstef: you might need to restart x - open a terminal and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [09:47] nope [09:48] try hitting ctrl+alt+bksp [09:49] what do you use to login the live cd [09:49] gdm [09:49] still big [09:49] sorry [09:49] ubuntu and leave the password blank [09:50] it logged back in automatically [09:50] font is still huge [09:51] ok - more terminal work - type ls /usr/share/fonts/X11 and tell us what's listed pls [09:53] k one sec [09:55] 100dpi, 75dpi, encodings, misc, Type1, [09:56] hmmm [09:58] open a menu with the large fonts and hold down the ctrl button and move the scroll wheel back and forward slow and see if the size changes [09:58] no scroll wheel [09:58] laptop [09:58] kk [09:59] I'm out of ideas - maybe someone else can chime in... [09:59] ohh - was the cd checked with the md5 ? [09:59] no [10:01] !bot [10:01] I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;) [10:01] !md5 [10:01] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [10:01] mstef: ^^ [10:01] k [10:04] its good [10:04] and i have the livecd checking the cd for defects [10:06] its fine [10:12] mstef: one min [10:13] k [10:13] think i might just cut my loses [10:13] mstef: can you use firefox? - see if this helps - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3609621 [10:13] yea im on my main computer now [10:15] its on a live cd though..and its xubuntu, not ku or ub.. [10:15] maybe ill just install then try to fix [10:17] thanks.. [10:17] k godd luck [10:27] so is there a way of calibrating a notebook battery in xubuntu, or at least making the tool say that there's 100% battery left instead of 82% (in my case) [11:15] hi, i have dsl on one lan card and another lan card connected to an other pc. how can i make the other pc share the internet ? [11:20] latitu: install firestarter, use it [11:21] i have fs [11:21] theres an option to share internet [11:21] but how do i assign a static ip to the other computer [11:21] ? [11:22] latitu: you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces [11:24] but how do i assign a static ip to the other computer [11:25] i was disconected. sory........ [11:25] latitu: that is the comp you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces on - then /etc/hosts on this comp [11:26] latitu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html [11:28] ok [11:28] thanks [11:28] what is 'enable dhcp for local network' in firestarter means? [11:28] it means to have any ip address set - not static [11:29] latitu: ^^ [11:30] ic [11:30] so if i want to share my internet with another computers i should enable both options ? enable internet connection sharing and enable dhcp for local network? [11:30] or ony one>? [11:31] i need to check enable internet connection sharing .. [11:31] but dhcp is an option.. [11:31] right? [11:31] and if i dont check dhcp. how should i assign ip to the computer. or how will it work? [11:32] latitu: I only ever use static ip addresses [11:44] how to set the ip manually ? [11:44] network manager [11:45] latitu: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html [11:45] latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what? [11:46] ere4si if i want to use firestarter. with dhcp. it says device etho2 is not ready [11:46] latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what? [11:46] ere4si kubuntu. etho1 dsl. ethho 2 my other pc [11:46] latitu: what os's you running? - dsl and what? [11:46] kubuntu [11:46] dsl [11:47] the other pc is windows [11:47] latitu: so which comp runs an ubuntu type os? [11:47] i think static is better. if i use static ips. i can limit bandwidths to each pc by its ip.. right. ? [11:47] mine run it [11:48] latitu: you may need to ask in #dsl or ##windows [11:48] what about ubuntu .. mine as server? [11:48] fs says etho2 is not up. [11:49] how do i configure it|? [11:49] latitu: you are confusing me - connect dsl to windows? [11:49] wait [11:50] dsl>dslmodem>lancard,etho1>mypc(ubuntu)>i use it too >lancard 2 , etho 2 > other pc for sharing (windows. [11:51] latitu: I don't know how dsl and windows work - sorry [11:52] iam not asking that [11:52] Hey guys i am having a few problems [11:52] iam asking about my computer that has linux [11:52] Freddo_frog: you just ask away in here :) [11:53] thanks [11:53] :) [11:54] well i installed ubuntu 8.04, and then i installed xubuntu-desktop. and now when i try to load xfce in the session thing in GDM, it just hangs [11:54] ohh [11:56] ere4si: any idea what is going on? [11:56] I've never had that - suriro ? [11:56] what is suriro? [11:57] a person [11:57] he was here before [11:57] ohh ok [11:58] Freddo_frog: is the entry in sessions xfce or xubuntu? [11:58] did you install from xubuntu disk or xfce onto an ubuntu install? [11:58] ere4si: it says xfce session [11:58] yep cool [11:58] i installed xubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu install [11:59] ....and at login you can chose xfce? [11:59] i can choose it [11:59] but it does nt work? [11:59] yea [11:59] it seems to just hang [12:00] Freddo_frog: I'd try in ubuntu sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop a reinstall so to speak [12:00] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu [12:01] ere4si: thanks [12:01] good luck Freddo_frog [12:01] Freddo_frog: read velky 's link [12:02] http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png please see this ? [12:03] latitu: you have three comps and two addresses? [12:07] Freddo_frog: some gnome stuff is locking display, it goes away if you kill X and retry. [12:07] suriro: really? [12:07] hang on [12:07] ctrl-alt-bkspace to kill X [12:08] he beat you to it suriro [12:08] hehe [12:10] suriro: it did not work [12:10] quick question - from latitu s png - how do you know "three comps and two addresses" (be gentle i am relatively noo [12:10] Freddo_frog: you should press ctrl-alt-bkspace when it hangs, did you do so? [12:11] velky: addresses 100 to 101 [12:11] suriro: i pressed it when i left [12:11] velky: and above he said he had 3 comps [12:11] then it loaded up the xubuntu gdm [12:11] yep - cheers [12:11] but it still hangs [12:12] Freddo_frog: switch to console when it hangs, login as the user and check contents of .xsession-errors [12:14] suriro: how do i switch to the console [12:14] ctrl-alt-f1 [12:14] hang on [12:14] i cannot log in there? [12:14] it is just a black screen [12:16] try f2, f3.. press enter [12:16] ok [12:16] ok i tried it [12:17] not working [12:17] where is .xessions-error [12:17] ~/.xsessions-errors [12:18] Freddo_frog: sth's not right. You should get a login prompt. [12:18] suriro: i am aware of this lol [12:18] I suggest you stop here. Login to gnome session, remove gnome-screensaver package, then retry loging into xfce [12:19] could that be the problem? [12:19] hang on [12:19] my guess is gnome-screensaver is causing that locl [12:19] but I'm not entirely sure [12:19] you can reinstall it later [12:19] how do i remove that package sorry i am new to ubuntu [12:20] system>admin>synaptic package manager [12:20] lol [12:20] ok [12:21] i will be back in a sec [12:23] suriro: thnx for coming in and helping - I was at the end of my knowledge with that :) [12:23] It works [12:23] =] [12:24] thanks suriro [12:25] screensaver killing xfce hah - whoda thunk it? [12:25] Horay!! i was just going to sugest get an xubuntu CD & start over!!! [12:26] Hey again [12:26] collective sigh of relief.... [12:27] Freddo_frog: heh! [12:27] or hay! [12:27] lol [12:28] what do you people like about ubuntu? [12:28] the support and packaging does it for me [12:29] yeah [12:29] ere4si: what DE do you use? [12:30] me too - been a bit of a distro tart since starting with linux - open suse - mandriva - there is a lot of help out on internet [12:30] Freddo_frog: mostly fluxbox on dapper server 'cause I like light weight [12:32] yeah [12:32] velky: have you ever tried archlinux? [12:33] freddo;: no - heard adout it..... [12:33] it is impressive [12:35] takes a while to set up I've read [12:37] depends what you want to setup i guess [12:37] lightweight i see - im looking for something light for a friend who wants to try linux on an old laptop - tend to think xubuntu would be good or ubuntu with fluxbox for sopport reasons and remote fidling - my main puter at the moment is linux mint so ubuntu based [12:38] velky: there is the minimal cd [12:38] !minimal [12:38] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [12:39] velky: install cli from that then the wm and apps you need [12:39] i will brb [12:39] i think the non graphic install would be best - laptop has only 128 ram. [12:40] will check out link... [12:40] !alternate [12:40] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [12:42] we will probably give it a try with a live cd first to check out wireless and stuff - the alternative install - i have had problems installing graphic install on low ram puters [12:43] velky: 192mb mem for xubuntulive cd [12:43] *xubuntu live cd [12:43] i must admit ubuntu has got a few things right [12:44] is that for install or could it manage a live session to check out hardware - no need for speed just checkout driver support [12:44] velky: it would be way slow but should work - maybe [12:44] then install from alt version after [12:45] yep - or the live cd - just leave it overnight hehe [12:46] i have a selection of cd to try DSL - puppy - Vista live - penultimate...... [12:46] we sfall give em a try [12:57] is there a freenode op here? [12:58] vidd: do /msg nickserv "stuff" [13:02] ere4si, are you a freenode op? [13:02] nickserv cant unban an IP [13:02] vidd: not an anything op :) [13:07] Hello [13:07] hello Nebuchan [13:07] How are we? [13:07] could always be better..... [13:08] As always :D [13:08] know any freenode ops? [13:10] I have a problem... I cant mount removable devices. It comes up with an error "Only root can mount device". Any ideas? [13:10] yeah...sudo mount .... [13:10] hmmm [13:10] only root can mount devices [13:11] so you must usesudo to mount them [13:11] Is that done via terminal? [13:11] yes [13:11] dang [13:11] why? [13:11] i hate terminal [13:11] is why [13:11] what are you trying to mount? [13:12] What removable devices? [13:12] sure [13:13] Well for one, its not a local device [13:13] thats a plus [13:13] is smb installed? [13:13] let me see [13:14] I haven't hade much luck with xubuntu so far. I keep messing things up by accident [13:15] FuseSMB? [13:15] remote shares is not my strong suite [13:16] i am not 100% sure [13:17] Nebuchan: why not plug it in the comp you're on? [13:17] Well the last thing i screwed up was windows manager and i was left with no windows at all [13:17] ummmm ok [13:17] you might try http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:1UrmNpOFClMJ:www.internet-matrix.net/xubuntu-samba.pdf+mount+remote+media+xubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a [13:18] nalioth, you around? [13:19] kloeri, can i ask your assistance? [13:19] Damn i'm in no mood for syntax atm [13:20] might aswell give up [13:20] Nebuchan, sorry...as i said...its notsomething i do alot [13:20] :( [13:20] Nebuchan: what filesystem nis on it? [13:20] in fact, i NEVER did it [13:20] *is [13:20] NTFS [13:21] Nebuchan: and how is it listed in /dev - fdisk -l will tell [13:21] -fdisk... as in format disk? [13:22] fdisk -l as in list partions on all disks [13:22] ok ok [13:23] Nebuchan: might need sudo fdisk -l === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [13:23] call me neb, its shorter [13:24] ok, i'll try [13:24] Nebuchan: I type neb and hit the tab key [13:26] ok, so im a noob. No shame. I want to sudo a remove disk im pretty sure its sda1 whats the syntax for sda1 sudo? [13:27] Nebuchan: remove is unmount? [13:27] well its never has been mounted [13:27] then sudo umount /dev/sda1 - but sda1 will be the first partition on the first hard drive [13:28] so mount then [13:28] Only have one local drive so i guess that makes it easier then [13:29] and partition [13:29] Nebuchan: you need to make a folder to mount it to first [13:29] sudo mkdir /mediaq/somename [13:29] oops [13:29] Nebuchan: sudo mkdir /media/somename [13:30] i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png please see this ? [13:30] Nebuchan: then sudo mount -v /dev/sda1 /media/somename [13:30] The current mount dir is root/media/sda1 [13:30] oops again [13:30] Its ok [13:31] Nebuchan: sudo mount -vt ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/somename [13:32] help [13:34] Is "somename" the device name? [13:35] Nebuchan: that is a folder that you will mount it to - somename = something you want to call it - could be anything [13:36] Oh ok. Thanks [13:42] latitu_, what do you need help with [13:42] i have a dsl working. i want to share my internet connection to another pc by an other lan card etho2. how do i configure etho2 to give the other pc a static ip? http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9729/41823606xq6.png please see this ? [13:44] is the second eth device actually named eth2? [13:44] what does ifconfig say? [13:45] it looks like there isnt anything plugged into eth2 [13:46] do you have another computer connected (direct connect needs a cross-over cable) [13:46]