| neil_d | ogra: are you there | 02:56 |
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| johnny | neil_d, please stop being people directly | 03:02 |
| johnny | you are very less likely to get help that way | 03:02 |
| johnny | it is bad ettiquette | 03:02 |
| johnny | that is.. unless they ask you to | 03:03 |
| neil_d | johnny: I was wanting to talk to ogra as he helped me before, and I wanted to inform him/her about the progress | 03:04 |
| johnny | just ask your question | 03:05 |
| johnny | the people who can help, will | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | neil_d: he should be asleep | 03:05 |
| johnny | always ask your question to the room , unless you were told otherwise | 03:06 |
| johnny | howdy LaserJock ... how's hardy? | 03:07 |
| * johnny testing possible ubuntu kernel bug | 03:07 | |
| johnny | with a network driver of all things.. | 03:07 |
| neil_d | johnny: I know that, I wasn't going to ask, I was going to inform. | 03:07 |
| johnny | only thing he wants to be informed of.. is "thanks, everything works now" :) | 03:08 |
| johnny | neil_d, people ping him so often, most never get a response | 03:08 |
| johnny | including me..and i actually work with him on ltsp stuff :) | 03:08 |
| neil_d | johnny: I didn't know that, I will hold off. | 03:09 |
| johnny | cuz he'll just see his chat client lit up on that channel.. but he doesn't have time to look for ever time somebody said his name in the list | 03:09 |
| johnny | i'm just glad people don't ping me that often | 03:10 |
| neil_d | I am looking for some docs. on setting up a printer on a client | 03:24 |
| neil_d | the file /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf says I should use /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf instead, but this file doesn't exists :( is there something wrong with my setup ? | 03:39 |
| privet | neil_d: on my new system that file also does not exist. | 05:16 |
| privet | neil_d: so, I assume, you need to create it if you need modifications from the default | 05:16 |
| neil_d | privet: yes, it seems so. | 05:24 |
| neil_d | I have a usb printer (epson cx3700) connected to my client, I setup the 'PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0' for the client, and a raw print queue to socket://192.168.1.20:9100, but when I try to print I get the message "printer xx may not be connected" :( what can I do to fix this ? | 06:00 |
| johnny | i think i heard something about hardy ltsp install missing jetpipe | 06:02 |
| johnny | i could be wrong.. can't check atm | 06:03 |
| neil_d | johnny: can you tell me how to check ? | 06:03 |
| johnny | lookfor that file ? | 06:04 |
| johnny | in the chroot? | 06:04 |
| johnny | i'm fighting a printer right now myself.. just not ltsp or ubuntu related :) | 06:08 |
| neil_d | johnny: find /opt/ltsp/i386 -name "*jetpipe*" didn't find anything | 06:08 |
| johnny | check launchpad, see if it is a registered bug | 06:09 |
| neil_d | johnny: it is there :) Bug #224259 there is a fix as well which I think I can do myself, thanks | 06:14 |
| neil_d | ok I fixed up that according to the instructions, now the printer did at least do a head clean, but it still isn't printing. | 06:50 |
| johnny | i've never once printed from a thin client.. my printer is attached to my server :( | 06:52 |
| johnny | so i don't know howit should work | 06:52 |
| neil_d | johnny: ok | 06:52 |
| johnny | please don't say my name everytime | 06:53 |
| johnny | itmakes my chat client blink | 06:53 |
| johnny | then again.. on a busy channel.. it can be necessary | 06:54 |
| johnny | so.. use your best judgement .. | 06:54 |
| neil_d | when I set the 'PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0' how does it know what printer driver to use ? | 08:50 |
| johnny | it's always jetpipe i think | 08:50 |
| johnny | maybe the server side takes care of the actual driver for printing | 08:51 |
| johnny | one day i'm gonna try it | 08:51 |
| johnny | neil_d, you shyould come here at different times.. | 08:51 |
| johnny | it's a bit early for the rest of the crew to be about | 08:51 |
| * neil_d ok | 08:52 | |
| neil_d | I am trying to get a usb printer going on a client, I started up the client with a local shell with "SCREEN_02 = shell" and confirmed that the 'usblp' module is loaded, but I still can't print, :( can anyone help ? | 10:15 |
| ogra | neil_d, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/224259 | 10:51 |
| neil_d | ogra: handled that one, by the way I found out what was wrong yesterday, the motherboards bios seems to have a bug in the pxe booting code, tried a different card and all worked fine. | 10:58 |
| saxonwold | hiya all - we came across a really weird issue, seems gcompris, tuxpaint and tuxmath runs in the back even though none of the users opened or using the app | 11:10 |
| saxonwold | he is currently chowing 100% of our cpu and memory | 11:10 |
| ogra | ps aux|grep gcompris | 11:10 |
| ogra | check which user it is running as | 11:10 |
| saxonwold | ogra:all of them | 11:11 |
| saxonwold | i used htop to view wazup | 11:11 |
| saxonwold | ogra: tuxpaint is all users, tuxmath and gcompris several | 11:17 |
| ogra | well, they cant start on their own unless the users or you did something to make them do that | 11:17 |
| ogra | i.e. they saved their session with one of them running ... or you added them to the /etc/xdg/autostart dir | 11:18 |
| ogra | thas the only two ways i could imagine to cause such a situation | 11:18 |
| saxonwold | i tried killing them using htop but it fails to kill them | 11:19 |
| ogra | use sudo htop :) | 11:20 |
| ogra | you cant just kill other users processes ... root can though | 11:20 |
| saxonwold | i did that | 11:21 |
| saxonwold | ogra how else can i kill them | 11:21 |
| saxonwold | without using htop] | 11:22 |
| ogra | sudo pkill gcompris | 11:22 |
| saxonwold | weird they are still there | 11:25 |
| ogra | you are aware that htop default to show you all threads for a user process ? did you change that setting to only show the main thread ? | 11:26 |
| neil_d | from a 'shell' on a client is there a command I can run to test the printer ? | 11:26 |
| ogra | (with f2 i think) | 11:26 |
| ogra | neil_d, just print a testpage from the print dialog instead ? | 11:27 |
| saxonwold | ogra: it is not in autostart, i can't kill them, what might be the issue | 11:29 |
| ogra | beyond them bein in a saved session i have no idea, really, | 11:30 |
| saxonwold | hmm | 11:30 |
| ogra | did you switch off the threading in htop ? | 11:31 |
| ogra | and are you sure they are not zombies ? (tagged with a Z in the ps output) | 11:31 |
| bimberi | [p]kill -9 ?? | 11:32 |
| neil_d | on the server the printer has all 'print test page' button etc. are all ghosted. | 11:32 |
| * bimberi doesn't stuff around :) | 11:32 | |
| saxonwold | bimberi: so ??=gcompris | 11:36 |
| neil_d | can I test the printer from the 'shell' on the client ? | 11:41 |
| ogra | neil_d, on the client console you mean ? just check if jetpipe is running | 11:46 |
| ogra | if thats the case the port is forwarded for setting it up in the print manager | 11:46 |
| bimberi | :/ (I was a bit obscure there) | 11:50 |
| neil_d | it is running with the args "/dev/usb/lp0" "9100" | 11:50 |
| ogra | that looks wrong, there shouldnt be a slash, check if that device really exists like that or if its rather /dev/usblp0 (if yo, fix your lts.conf entry) | 11:51 |
| ogra | s/yo/so/ | 11:51 |
| neil_d | i have a "crw-rw--- 1 root lp 180, 0 May 7 07:49 /dev/usb/lp0" | 11:55 |
| ogra | ok, then thats right | 11:56 |
| ogra | so setting up a jetdirect printer in the print dialog should give you a proper testpage | 11:56 |
| neil_d | ok so I setup a jetdirect printer, with the generic raw socket device, on socket://192.168.1.20:9100 and the 'print test page' button is still ghosted. | 12:06 |
| neil_d | it going now :) | 12:32 |
| ogra | yay | 12:40 |
| neil_d | is it possible to set up a different default printer on a per user basis ? | 12:51 |
| neil_d | found out how | 13:02 |
| comete | hi | 14:56 |
| Tuneap | can anyone recommend, or point me in the right direction? to software to monitor the clients activities, similar to VNC, to remotely view a clients display in 8.04 please... | 16:31 |
| Tuneap | that is, I using edubuntu 8.04..... | 16:31 |
| ogra | do you have edubuntu-desktop installed ? | 16:32 |
| ogra | (that puls in the italc client into all user sessions, install italc-master to control them) | 16:33 |
| Tuneap | installed the from the alternate cd, then loaded the add-on CD.. clients will be PXE booting.. I'll check out italc, many thanks! | 16:35 |
| ogra | not ethat you need a special port for the clients to connect to in ltsp if you add computers in italc master (<external server ip>:<10+last bit of the client> ) if you add computers to italc | 16:36 |
| ogra | s/last bit of the client/last bit of the client ip/ | 16:37 |
| Tuneap | they all use the same port, I guess?.. | 16:37 |
| ogra | no | 16:41 |
| ogra | each client uses its own | 16:41 |
| ogra | 10+the last byte of the clients ip | 16:42 |
| ogra | i.e. if your client shows 192.168.0.220 on the login screen the port would be 10220 | 16:42 |
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| denvergeek | this may be a dumb question, but I'm experiencing quite the performance issues with edubuntu in an LTSP setup, with GNOME as the display manager. Is there anything non-essential that can be disabled, as far as fancy effects and sound go? | 23:17 |
| johnny_ | is this with hardy? | 23:22 |
| johnny_ | i personally noticed that the 2.6.24 kernel hasn't been friendly to my computer :( | 23:22 |
| denvergeek | still back a release | 23:25 |
| denvergeek | 7.10 | 23:25 |
| denvergeek | haven't had a chance to upgrade yet | 23:25 |
| johnny_ | hmm.. i never had a problem with that | 23:28 |
| johnny_ | i doubt sound is causing you a performance issue | 23:29 |
| johnny_ | and no graphics effects were enabled by default iirc | 23:29 |
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