Whippet | hi all | 03:05 |
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Whippet | wondering if anyone could help me with cairo-dock? | 03:06 |
Whippet | it installed ok, but will not launch | 03:06 |
Whippet | using ubuntu 8.04 | 03:07 |
Whippet | installed by launching the cairo-dock*.deb and cairo-dock-plug-ins*.deb | 03:07 |
Whippet | files show up in right places | 03:08 |
Whippet | but /usr/bin/cairo-dock wont launch | 03:08 |
Whippet | says it's there but no launchy :-( | 03:08 |
Whippet | specific error msg. is Failed to execute child process "cairo-dock" (No such file or directory) | 03:09 |
Whippet | which is puzzling as the files and directories exist and the cairo-dock is marked as executable | 03:10 |
Whippet | any help would be appreciated | 03:10 |
DShepherd | does anyone else find the tracker-applet notification icons not very intuitive? | 04:50 |
dholbach | good morning | 06:55 |
huats | moring everyone | 09:37 |
seb128 | pochu: did you read my reply to your comment about the gtk-vnc update? | 10:01 |
pochu | seb128: yeah, I'll look at them | 10:03 |
seb128 | thanks | 10:03 |
pochu | soren: gtk-vnc is a sync for Intrepid, right? | 10:04 |
seb128 | let me know if you need some testing, etc | 10:04 |
pochu | thanks | 10:04 |
soren | pochu: AFAIR, yes. | 10:05 |
pochu | from the changelog it looks like ;) | 10:05 |
pochu | soren: it adds a new binary package, mozilla-gtk-vnc (--enable-plugin=yes), is that ok? | 10:08 |
soren | pochu: For intrepid? Sure, sure. | 10:09 |
soren | I looking forward to that one, actually :) | 10:09 |
pochu | heh | 10:11 |
pochu | seb128: can you sync gtk-vnc for Intrepid? | 10:11 |
seb128 | yes | 10:11 |
pochu | good morning slomo_! | 10:14 |
seb128 | pitti: the pending sru code seems to pick upstream bug numbers too, it doesn't use Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed? | 10:18 |
pitti | seb128: it only looks at the actual changelog | 10:19 |
pitti | seb128: I started with parsing for LP: #1234 | 10:19 |
pitti | seb128: but that didn't catch a lot of mis-formatted bug numbers | 10:19 |
seb128 | hum | 10:19 |
pitti | so I made it more flexible | 10:19 |
seb128 | pitti: looks at the evolution bugs list for example | 10:19 |
pitti | of course that means getting false positives, but that's better than not showing all LP bugs IMHO | 10:19 |
seb128 | ok | 10:20 |
seb128 | I should clean the upstream numbers next time then | 10:20 |
pitti | hehe, yea | 10:20 |
pitti | seb128: no, please keep them, they are useful | 10:20 |
pitti | seb128: it's quite clear that those are upstream #, not LP # | 10:20 |
seb128 | ok | 10:20 |
pitti | seb128: well, I have started to reject packages with invalid changelogs (missing bug #), etc. | 10:20 |
pitti | if we become consequent with that, I can make the parsing stricter again | 10:21 |
seb128 | I was not sure if you were aiming at "all green" on this list before copying to updates or something | 10:21 |
pitti | seb128: oh, no; only the LP ones | 10:21 |
seb128 | ok, as long as you can figure which ones are lp or not that's fine I guess ;-) | 10:21 |
pitti | once we hit the 3xxxxxx range, it becomes harder, of course | 10:22 |
pitti | I try to train myself to not be forgiving about wrong SRU changelogs now | 10:22 |
mantiena | hi all | 10:27 |
mantiena | Is this channel correct place to ask about strange behaviour of hal and policy-kit ? | 10:27 |
mantiena | or it's better to ask at ubuntu-devel ? | 10:28 |
mantiena | anyone here? | 10:32 |
seb128 | hi mantiena, you can always ask | 10:33 |
mantiena | seb128: :) | 10:33 |
mantiena | so, question is - why policy-kit doesn't allow to upgrade hal package in chroot ? | 10:34 |
mantiena | root@linux-desktop:/# dpkg --configure -a | 10:34 |
mantiena | Setting up hal (0.5.11~rc2-1ubuntu8) ... | 10:34 |
mantiena | * Reloading system message bus config... [ OK ] | 10:34 |
mantiena | polkit-read-auth-helper: needs to be setgid polkituser | 10:34 |
mantiena | polkit-auth: NotAuthorizedToReadAuthorizationsForOtherUsers: uid 0 is not authorized to read authorizations for uid 111 (requires org.freedesktop.policykit.read) | 10:34 |
mantiena | I've found which hal.postinst line couses this message: | 10:35 |
mantiena | # Allow hal to query the PolicyKit database to enforce privileges | 10:36 |
mantiena | if ! /usr/bin/polkit-auth --user haldaemon --explicit | grep -q 'org.freedesktop.policykit.read'; then | 10:36 |
mantiena | /usr/bin/polkit-auth --user haldaemon --grant 'org.freedesktop.policykit.read' | 10:36 |
mantiena | fi | 10:36 |
mantiena | So, is it bug in hal package or bug in policy-kit ? | 10:36 |
pochu | seb128, soren: gtk-vnc uploaded and built at https://edge.launchpad.net/~pochu/+archive, with the 3 fixes. | 10:41 |
soren | pochu: Awesome! | 10:41 |
pochu | seb128: I'll ask for testing in the 3 bug reports | 10:42 |
seb128 | ok, thanks | 10:42 |
pochu | wait | 10:42 |
seb128 | pochu: it's not listed there yet, maybe you need to remove the 0.3.5 candidate? | 10:42 |
pochu | right, I just got a rejected mail | 10:42 |
pochu | anyway, it built fine on my desktop ;) | 10:43 |
pochu | bah I guess it will take some time for the ppa to remove the package... | 10:45 |
seb128 | should not | 10:45 |
soren | Er.. Yes. | 10:46 |
soren | It's done by a nightly cron job. | 10:46 |
pochu | I thought that was already fixed, but looks like not | 10:46 |
soren | At least it used to be. | 10:46 |
pochu | at least it's dissapeared from the UI but it's still at http://ppa.launchpad.net/pochu/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-vnc/ | 10:46 |
pochu | so I guess a new upload will be rejected again | 10:47 |
pochu | seb128, soren: anyway, I've put the diff.gz & .dsc at http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/, you know where to get the orig from ;) | 10:47 |
seb128 | ah ok | 10:47 |
pochu | feel free to play with it :) | 10:47 |
seb128 | pochu: can you attach the debdiff to one of the bugs rather? | 10:47 |
pochu | ah, sure | 10:47 |
seb128 | pochu: that's what is required for a sure anyway | 10:47 |
seb128 | s/sure/sru | 10:48 |
pochu | seb128: attached at bug 206227 | 10:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 206227 in gtk-vnc "vinagre fails to connect" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206227 | 10:50 |
seb128 | pochu: thanks | 10:50 |
pochu | anytime | 10:51 |
pochu | bbl | 10:51 |
seb128 | see you later | 10:51 |
seb128 | soren: want to give it a try and do the sponsoring? | 10:51 |
soren | seb128: I won't get around to it today, then. | 10:52 |
soren | seb128: I can do it tomorrow or the next day. | 10:52 |
seb128 | soren: well, no hurry, before 8.04.1 would be nice though ;-) | 10:52 |
soren | I think I can manage that :) | 10:53 |
seb128 | thanks | 10:57 |
mantiena | seb128: so, could you tell me anything about hal updating problem? It appreard when I upgrading hal from hardy-updates... | 12:01 |
seb128 | no | 12:05 |
seb128 | I've no clue about this one | 12:06 |
mantiena | pitti: maybe I should talk with you about hal updating problems ? | 12:13 |
pitti | mantiena: sure | 12:13 |
mantiena | pitti: should I repeat my lines or you can look at the history of this channel (I've post 2 hours ago) ? | 12:35 |
pitti | mantiena: I have scrollback, give me another 5 mins | 12:35 |
pitti | (I'd like to finish my current task) | 12:36 |
mantiena | ok | 12:37 |
pitti | mantiena: oh, hal in a chroot? I guess that will break in more than one way | 12:38 |
pitti | mantiena: do you have policykit running in the chroot? | 12:38 |
mantiena | pitti: I don't think so, but in any case - I think there should be a way to upgrade hal package in chroot | 12:39 |
mantiena | pitti: I'm remastering Ubuntu LiveCD and wanna have to update latest packages | 12:40 |
pitti | mantiena: does it help to stop the 'outside' hal and policykit, and restart the ones in the chroot? | 12:41 |
mantiena | pitti: I can try, didn't this break my internet connection or something ? | 12:41 |
pitti | yes, it might (network-manager) | 12:42 |
pitti | I don't see a way how to sensibly run two hals on the same machine at the same time | 12:42 |
mantiena | pitti: but I don't need to run hal inside chroot, I just need to update hal package | 12:42 |
pitti | mantiena: oh | 12:42 |
pitti | mantiena: using policy-rc.d might help then, but it'll proably stumble over the polkit-auth call | 12:43 |
mantiena | I've found which hal.postinst line couses this message: | 12:44 |
mantiena | # Allow hal to query the PolicyKit database to enforce privileges | 12:44 |
mantiena | if ! /usr/bin/polkit-auth --user haldaemon --explicit | grep -q 'org.freedesktop.policykit.read'; then | 12:44 |
mantiena | /usr/bin/polkit-auth --user haldaemon --grant 'org.freedesktop.policykit.read' | 12:44 |
mantiena | fi | 12:44 |
mantiena | are these lines needed for upgrading hal package ? | 12:45 |
* mantiena is not policy-kit guru ... | 12:45 | |
pitti | mantiena: actually only for the first installation | 12:45 |
pitti | so those could be wrapped into | 12:46 |
pitti | if [ -z "$2" ]; then | 12:46 |
mantiena | pitti: so, should I report a bug against hal package ? | 12:47 |
mantiena | :) | 12:47 |
asac | pitti: | 12:47 |
asac | merging country code en | 12:47 |
asac | merging country code es | 12:47 |
asac | merging country code pt | 12:47 |
asac | merging country code zh | 12:47 |
asac | i guess for those few it makes sense to manually upload lang packs? | 12:47 |
pitti | mantiena: no need to, I just fixed it in trunk: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/hal/ubuntu/revision/235 | 12:48 |
* pitti hugs asac | 12:48 | |
pitti | asac: yes, I think so; that should be done in the update packages | 12:49 |
asac | pitti: update package? will that work? | 12:49 |
pitti | asac: you need to update them anyway, since version(base) == version(update) ATM, and base version X depends on update version >= X | 12:50 |
pitti | asac: so you can as well put them into the updates only (they Replaces: -base) | 12:50 |
asac | yes ... i thought ill punch the new tarballs in base and upload update with bumpbed depends | 12:50 |
asac | pitti: ok i see .. problem is that in en we have "en" + "en_GB" ... i would like to remove "en" from that | 12:51 |
pochu | seb128, soren: gtk-vnc is now in my ppa in the correct version (the debdiff remains the same): https://edge.launchpad.net/~pochu/+archive | 12:51 |
mantiena | pitti: oh, you don't wanna increase my karma in launchpad .... | 12:51 |
asac | i think its not important. | 12:51 |
asac | so i can go for update package only | 12:51 |
seb128 | pochu: cool, thanks | 12:51 |
pitti | mantiena: heh; if you insist, you can file it anyway :) | 12:51 |
pitti | mantiena: (or if you need it for tracking purposes) | 12:51 |
pitti | asac: I agree; fewer packages to touch, and testing this scenario is good anyway (it's supposed to work) | 12:52 |
pitti | asac: scenario> update packages providing newer translations than -base | 12:52 |
* mantiena wanna to become ubuntu member, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MantasKriaučiūnas | 12:52 | |
mantiena | pitti: maybe you wanna write testmonial into my wiki page ? | 12:53 |
mantiena | ;) | 12:53 |
asac | pitti: ok fine. how about moving things to language-support when 3.0 RC1 comes out. people kick me all the time :/ | 12:53 |
pitti | asac: to language-*support*? heck, we just got rid of that? | 12:53 |
asac | pitti: err, no idea how the package is called. i mean move it from -gnome- to a common package | 12:54 |
pitti | asac: ah, I see; if Riddell is ok with that, sure | 12:55 |
asac | pitti: ok, ill talk into him :) | 12:55 |
asac | anyway ... i am doing the langpack updates as discussed for now | 12:55 |
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pitti | asac: great | 12:56 |
mantiena | pitti: so, what about your testmonial into my wiki page ? ;) | 12:59 |
asac | pitti: all three packs in bug 222673 are waiting for approval i guess | 13:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 222673 in rosetta "language-pack-gnome-pt-base has pt-br translation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222673 | 13:38 |
pitti | mantiena: what do you mean? | 13:43 |
pitti | asac: great, so it worked correctly? (replacing files, etc.) | 13:43 |
asac | pitti: for me the result looks ok. there are no conflicts when installing and the problems are fixed | 13:44 |
pitti | cool | 13:46 |
asac | pitti: all files replaced are identical to the ones in -base ... so i cannot check that easily if he replace worked properly | 13:46 |
asac | but i hope that dpkg still works :) | 13:47 |
asac | at least the new files are now in there ... and thats what i wanted | 13:47 |
pitti | processing | 13:47 |
pitti | asac: accepted; so what did you change in the po2xpi scripts now? can we roll this out to rookery as well? | 13:50 |
asac | pitti: i produced it on rookery | 13:51 |
pitti | asac: ah, so there's just one language tarball now? awesome | 13:51 |
* pitti hugs asac | 13:51 | |
asac | so its already rolled there ... i added merge logic to the mozilla-rosetta/rosetta_xpi_to_sources script | 13:52 |
pitti | asac: I'll check the next set of automatic PPA updates then | 13:52 |
pitti | ah, I see | 13:52 |
asac | pitti: you run daily PPA updates? | 13:53 |
pitti | asac: twice a week, rather | 13:53 |
asac | just note that for the next few days the .po files for firefox and xulrunner are bogus because a fix landed in launchpad and we have to reimport translations | 13:53 |
pitti | oh, good to know | 13:54 |
pitti | asac: I was planning to copy the PPA to -proposed next Monday | 13:54 |
asac | ill let you know once everything is fine again | 13:54 |
pitti | but then I'll hold off | 13:54 |
pitti | thanks | 13:54 |
asac | yeah ... i just got to know about this today | 13:54 |
asac | but jtv is on it | 13:54 |
asac | but there is good news ... the xulrunner-1.9 update triggered the auto import this time. so at least that appears to work finally now | 13:56 |
pochu | seb128: hey, could you sync gstreamer0.10 for Intrepid? | 14:04 |
pochu | slomo_: ^^ | 14:04 |
slomo_ | :) | 14:04 |
pochu | \o/ | 14:04 |
pochu | yah for the GStreamer stuck in sync with Debian! | 14:04 |
seb128 | "stuck"? | 14:05 |
pochu | err, stack :) | 14:05 |
seb128 | ah ;-) | 14:05 |
seb128 | what was the change there? the symlink upgrade cdbs thing? | 14:05 |
pochu | slomo_: what would you think if I find a new contributor willing to learn and do merges? you have a lot to do and I don't think I'll be able to take care of all of them as I did when Hardy opened | 14:06 |
pochu | seb128: yup | 14:06 |
pochu | and this one | 14:06 |
pochu | debian/libgstreamer.symbols: | 14:06 |
pochu | + Don't use the binary registry for now, too intrusive change for | 14:06 |
pochu | hardy and we'll switch after release. | 14:06 |
seb128 | synced | 14:06 |
seb128 | ok | 14:06 |
pochu | thanks! | 14:06 |
ember | heya | 14:06 |
asac | pochu: you have a list of merges you would like to give away? | 14:08 |
asac | pochu: i have someone in mozillateam who needs more on his list for MOTU application :) (jazzva) | 14:08 |
seb128 | pochu, slomo_: do you know if some of the gstreamer updates are bug fix versions we should consider for hardy updates? | 14:10 |
pochu | asac: I have tracker and liferea, feel free to ask him to give them | 15:09 |
asac | pochu: ok ill ask once he shows up | 15:10 |
mantiena | pitti: I mean than you could recommend me :) I'm good bugreporter :) | 15:27 |
mantiena | pitti: or you could mention me at least in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/hal/ubuntu/revision/235 :) | 15:35 |
* mantiena wanna to become ubuntu member, so, I need to document my contributions to Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MantasKriaučiūnas | 15:35 | |
pitti | mantiena: aah, I see | 15:39 |
mantiena | pitti: btw, maybe we need to forbid hal to query the PolicyKit database to enforce privileges in hal.postrm if we "allow hal to query the PolicyKit database to enforce privileges" in hal.postinst ? | 15:39 |
pitti | mantiena: I'll put a blob on your page | 15:40 |
mantiena | pitti: thanks | 15:43 |
hggdh | seb128: good morning | 15:53 |
seb128 | hello hggdh | 15:53 |
seb128 | hggdh: so the cpu issue seems to be due to the e-a-n run? | 15:53 |
hggdh | seb128: yes, it seems so. I sort of expected that, but we still do not know why | 15:54 |
seb128 | no | 15:54 |
seb128 | I'm pondering dropping the autostart desktop if upstream doesn't respond to the issue | 15:54 |
hggdh | a bypass is to take out e-a-n from the suto start-up, but this would break notifications everywhere | 15:54 |
hggdh | s/suto/auto/ | 15:54 |
seb128 | well, we added it for this reason | 15:54 |
seb128 | I've the impression upstream doesn't care a lot about non evolution users | 15:55 |
hggdh | now that I am home, I will set up one system I have to try to get it | 15:55 |
seb128 | or rather they use evolution so they don't miss notifications because it has not been started | 15:55 |
hggdh | I agree -- chats I had upstream... they tell me to get more data, | 15:55 |
hggdh | but we have gotten a lot of data already | 15:55 |
seb128 | right, I'm wondering what exactly they want now | 15:56 |
seb128 | we got debug stacktrace, strace logs, we know it's triggered for users not using evolution | 15:56 |
hggdh | interesting is that only Ubuntu seems to have been hit so far | 15:56 |
hggdh | it is triggered for evo users also | 15:56 |
seb128 | well, the autostart desktop is an ubuntu patch | 15:56 |
hggdh | ah | 15:56 |
seb128 | so not so surprising | 15:56 |
seb128 | upstream relies on evolution being started and running e-a-n | 15:57 |
hggdh | ah... so there! | 15:57 |
seb128 | who do you speak to about this issue upstream usually? | 15:57 |
hggdh | anyone online, mchra, mbarnes, srag | 15:58 |
seb128 | ok | 15:58 |
hggdh | AFAIR mbarnes and mchra were the last | 15:58 |
hggdh | now one thing I do not understand: if e-a-n is used elsewhere in Gnome, why isn't e-a-n autostarted on every distro? | 15:59 |
hggdh | also, what would happen is we autostarted e-d-s before e-a-n? | 16:00 |
seb128 | hggdh: other distros get no calendar notifications until somebody starts evolution | 16:05 |
hggdh | seb128: so... either Gnome sports (and announces) calendar notifications, or officially drops this to only Evo users | 16:06 |
seb128 | well, that's something GNOME should look at fixing yes | 16:08 |
seb128 | hggdh: starting e-a-n before e-d-s causes no issue on my box, e-d-s is just autospawned as it should | 16:08 |
seb128 | hggdh: I just tried several evolution --force-shutdown && /usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-alarm-notify | 16:09 |
hggdh | seb128: I have been trying also, and never got it -- but, then, all I had was linux64 | 16:16 |
hggdh | seb128: this is why I want to install hardy32 on one of my machines | 16:16 |
hggdh | my hunch of being related to one single CPU did not pan out :-( | 16:17 |
seb128 | I'm using only 32 bit installs | 16:17 |
hggdh | darn! another hunch goes down the drain! | 16:17 |
seb128 | I don't think it's so low level issue | 16:18 |
mantiena | /me wonders why pitti wanna put Binary Large OBject (BLOB) on my page... | 16:18 |
seb128 | must be a race somewhere in the e-d-s code | 16:18 |
hggdh | what is weird is that some users have it occasionally, and others almost always (secretlondon, for example) | 16:18 |
seb128 | races can be weird ;-) | 16:18 |
hggdh | yeah | 16:18 |
hggdh | on one of the loops all that I could see were very fast poll () -- like glib got lost | 16:19 |
hggdh | and continuous poll() with a timeout of zero would indeed cause some CPU use | 16:20 |
seb128 | right | 16:20 |
hggdh | now this is why I still think it is related to glib -- applications do not have that low access to poll, or g_hash_* | 16:21 |
seb128 | that's weird that nothing else trigger the issue if that's a glib bug | 16:24 |
hggdh | I also agree. Must be something on how e-a-n starts up. But the e-a-n code is quite simple, and looks very much (to my ignorant eyes) like a standard glib usage | 16:25 |
hggdh | so we go back to e-a-n and e-d-s iteraction -- and, still, glib | 16:26 |
hggdh | because glib is the glue between both | 16:27 |
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pochu | ember: feel free to ping me if you need sponsorship for your exaile merge ;) | 17:43 |
pochu | ember: or if you can't do it, let me know, I'll find some new contributor willing to do it! :) | 17:51 |
pochu | there's people on ubuntu-motu-mentors asking for merges so should be trivial | 17:51 |
pochu | ^-- that's for everybody in the channel, if you don't want to do your merges... although you will have to help the new contributor if he has issues with it ;) | 17:52 |
ember | yeah i think you can give that merge to one of those people | 17:52 |
ember | i'm waiting till i get a chroot of intrepid created (because of perl bug) | 17:52 |
pochu | ah, ok | 17:53 |
pochu | well actually I have requested some syncs without test-building them, but this soon in the cycle I don't think that's very important... as they built in Debian and the auto-syncer doesn't test-build them prior to sync packages :) | 17:54 |
pochu | and I don't think I'm the only one here ;) | 17:55 |
pochu | actually cdbs seems to be uninstallable in the buildds | 17:55 |
ember | if nobody looks for exaile i can do it later at night | 17:57 |
ember | but you can sync evolution-rss | 17:59 |
ember | :p | 17:59 |
doul_doul | Hello ! | 19:42 |
doul_doul | Can you help me about gDesklets (is #ubuntu-desktop the good channel ?) | 19:43 |
doul_doul | I would like to put a desklet always on top | 19:43 |
doul_doul | is anybody here ? | 19:44 |
andreasn | doul_doul: you can try #ubuntu , this is a development channel | 19:46 |
andreasn | I have no idea how to do it myself | 19:46 |
doul_doul | okay, thank you | 19:52 |
mantiena | pitti: May I expect your blob on my ubuntu wiki page, which you mentioned at 17:40:54 ? | 19:57 |
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mpt | Ugh, it's pretty annoying that the Screen Resolution window doesn't fit in 640x480 | 20:21 |
seb128 | mpt: because other applications do fit nicely on that? ;-) | 20:28 |
mpt | seb128, I'm testing applications that don't, and it would be nice to be able to use the mouse to go back to my normal resolution afterwards :-) | 20:28 |
mpt | (testing, and providing design fixes for) | 20:29 |
seb128 | mpt: I was just reading bug #224229 | 20:31 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 224229 in gnome-control-center "Quite hard to change screen resolution back to normal when resolution is set very low" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224229 | 20:31 |
mpt | seb128, +1 to Bryce's comments | 20:33 |
mpt | The "Detect Displays" button taking up as much room as it does is ridiculous | 20:33 |
mpt | GTK should refuse to make any button more than 250% the width of its label ;-) | 20:34 |
andreasn | mpt: did the Brasero bug where it asked if you wanted to set it as default get solved? | 20:34 |
mpt | andreasn, according to the Bugzilla comment yes. I haven't confirmed it myself. | 20:35 |
seb128 | mpt: I'm not sure those will be enough to get it fitting on screen though | 20:35 |
seb128 | mpt: you would like better an non expansed button there? | 20:35 |
seb128 | that would look weird no? | 20:36 |
andreasn | mpt: I just noticed evolution throws up a pretty similar icky dialog, so I wanted to check that it was technically possible to insert "Current Application X" | 20:36 |
mpt | seb128, sure, it would look weird either way, which is a clue that it's in the wrong place | 20:36 |
mpt | andreasn, I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if the Brasero peeps had implemented that detail | 20:36 |
cody-somerville | gicmo, looks like we're room mates in Prague. | 20:37 |
seb128 | mpt: still, I'm not sure it's possible to make GNOME works correctly on 640x480, and who is used that on normal installations anyway? | 20:37 |
andreasn | mpt: right | 20:37 |
mpt | seb128, people with subnotebooks | 20:37 |
mpt | like that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepc | 20:37 |
seb128 | mpt: I wrote "normal" on purpose, mobiles are a different target and have adapted interfaces | 20:38 |
mpt | subnotebooks != mobiles | 20:38 |
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