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ToddBrandtStevenK: have you seen this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/20637303:46
ToddBrandtI'm considering removing the installtion of our moblin-time applet in favor of just allowing gnome-system-tools 2.22.0's time-admin program to handle things03:47
ToddBrandtthe gnome-system-tools version is integrated with policykit and, despite the fact that it requires ume user login, appears to at least function where the moblin-time version can't because it's prevented from accessing liboobs functions for some reason03:48
ToddBrandtStevenK: what do you think?03:48
StevenKOr you could change moblin-time to call the same functions that g-s-t does?03:50
inkynoobI did a ctrl-c in the middle of an 'apt-get install <list of packages>', before anything was downloaded. Now apt-get wants to install those packages even though I don't want to. Does anyone know how to make apt-get forget them?05:51
persiainkynoob: `apt-get remove $(list-of-packages)`06:00
persiaEssentially, you need to unmark them as being desirable for installation.06:00
inkynoobhmm, maybe I'm doing something else then. I was trying to get openoffice off the list of packages. It might be that it's a dependency of some other package I'm installing06:03
persiaMost likely.06:05
inkynoobthanks for the help. I'm going to have to look at this closer tomorrow. Good night!06:05
persiaWhat are you installing?06:05
persiaRight.  Tomorrow then :)06:05
dholbachgood morning06:55
horacelilool, ping08:31
horaceliStevenK, ping08:38
StevenKhoraceli?08:39
horacelihi, StevenK08:39
StevenKhoraceli: Pinging in two channels is pointless, I'll see it at the same time anyway. :-)08:40
StevenKhoraceli: What's up?08:40
horaceli:-), yep, just for double insurance08:40
horaceliI was told you are the buildmaster.08:40
horaceliand I am fixing a bug of marquee-plugins.08:40
horacelia patch has been generated but I have no idea where to put it.08:40
StevenKhoraceli: Is there a bug open?08:41
horaceliI know lool maintained a separate marquee-plugins for Hardy08:41
horaceliyes, it is a open bug08:41
horacelibug #21336408:41
horacelihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-ui-framework/+bug/21336408:41
horacelihere is the link08:41
StevenKhoraceli: Date and time launched from the marquee should be a modal dialog." ?08:46
horaceliyes08:46
horaceliand I applied the second suggestion that add a 'Close' button on dialog08:46
horaceliset it to modal might have other side-effect08:46
StevenKRight, there's a marquee-plugins 0.22-0ubuntu1 in Hardy. There doesn't look to be one in the PPA.08:47
horacelino, it doesn't08:47
StevenKhoraceli: Does your patch apply against 0.22?08:48
horacelineither does it in bzr08:48
horaceliyes, based on 0.22-0ubuntu108:48
StevenKhoraceli: That bug is listed against Moblin Applets, not Moblin UI Framework, though.08:49
horaceliand I don't know where the source is maintained08:49
horaceliyes, it was originally considered as moblin applets bug08:49
horacelibut since it is a marquee-plugins, then Todd suggested to regard it as ui bug08:49
StevenKSo it should be listed as affecting Moblin UI Framework, and marked as Invalid for Moblin Applets08:50
horaceliyou mean on the bug page?08:50
StevenKRight08:50
horaceliyep,  you are right.08:51
horacelisomeone only updates the bug owner08:51
horacelibut not update its category08:51
horaceliStevnK, it is updated now08:52
horaceli:-)08:52
horaceliStevenK08:53
StevenKhoraceli: Okay, so the next step is to say in the bug you've got a fix, and you're attaching a patch to correct it.08:54
StevenKThere's a field in adding a comment to add a attachment too08:54
horaceliyes, I have patch.08:56
horaceliso you suggest I append a comment with my patch attached?08:56
horaceliStevenK08:56
StevenKhoraceli: Exactly.08:58
horaceliok, but after I attached my patch, will there be someone help to handle it?09:00
horacelisince the owner is bob, which is the same as I own the bug. :-P09:01
StevenKhoraceli: Yes, me.09:01
StevenKHeh, oops.09:01
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StevenKhoraceli: I wasn't aware you and Bob were the same person. :-)09:01
horaceliahoh, StevenK, I dropped my connection09:01
horaceliah. I don't mean that, StevenK09:01
horacelipoor english of me.09:02
StevenK[18:02] < horaceli> since the owner is bob, which is the same as I own the bug. :-P09:02
StevenKhoraceli: I know, I'm making a joke. :-)09:02
horaceli:-)09:02
horaceliyep, that is a good one.09:02
horaceliStevenK, that will be good, I am updating now09:02
horaceliand let you know once it is done.09:02
StevenKhoraceli: Upload your patch, and either me or lool will look at it.09:02
StevenKSince lool joined while your connection reset.09:03
StevenKAh, no, his connection just dropped and came back. Oh well.09:03
horaceliStevenK, it is done09:07
horaceliplease refresh the page.09:07
* StevenK does so.09:08
StevenKhoraceli: Okay, so I'm going to add your patch to the marquee-plugins package and test it. I might even upload it if you're very lucky. :-)09:11
StevenKhoraceli: I'd suggest you get the same patch commited in git so that when we update marquee-plugins, we can drop the patch.09:12
StevenKhoraceli: How do I bring up the dialog box that you added the Close button to?09:20
horaceliStevenK, you could click on the clock plugin area on marquee panel to launch up date & time dialog09:49
horaceliand once dialog is launched up, it can only be closed by clicking 'Close' button.09:50
horaceliStevenK, when you said 'get the same patch committed in git', does it mean git repo on Moblin.org?09:50
horaceliI will add my patch to Moblin.org. :-)09:51
StevenKhoraceli: Yes, I did mean that.09:55
horaceliStevenK, okay, I have pushed my patch to git repo, master branch.09:56
horaceliif you have any questions on verifying the patch, just feel free to let me know09:56
loolhoraceli: Heya; sorry my connection is flaky10:00
lool(what you people see connecting and disconnecting is my remote irssi on a colo server, but I was disconnected at home)10:01
horacelilool, :-), never mind. I have talked to StevenK10:02
loolhoraceli: Yup, I see the backlog10:02
horaceligreat.10:02
loolhoraceli: We only have bzr trees for modules we imported from maemo's svn10:02
loolhoraceli: For the moblin modules, we simply keep the packaging in the "archive", either hardy or the ppa10:02
loolThe reason there's nothing in the ppa is that the version of hardy had everything we needed and we didn't need to fork it10:03
horacelilool, I found marquee-plugins is deleted from ppa10:03
loolBut now that hardy is frozen, we will upload to the ppa10:03
horaceliI see10:03
horacelithat will be better, since I then could know how to do to update the package. :-)10:03
loolhoraceli: Someone, probably me, uploaded a new marquee-plugins superseding all previous ones to hardy and there was no need to keep it in ppa10:03
loolhoraceli: You could update it in ppa too if you wish, you would have taken it from hardy, applied your patch, and pushed to ppa10:04
horaceliwhat about the version naming.10:04
loolhoraceli: That ppa versus hardy upload story is complex, it's because we're not aligned with Ubuntu cycles10:04
loolhoraceli: There's a wiki page on version numbering, but for purely mobile modules you don't need to care10:05
loolIt's particularly important to get it right when we fork non-mobile modules like say cairo or pango or xorg or whatever10:05
loolFor purely mobile modules, we just have to be careful not to reuse version numbers so that it's unambiguous10:05
horaceliokay, I see10:06
loolThe traditional way to get changes in Ubuntu is to file a bug and attach a patch, or when you're a MOTU/core dev, upload10:06
loolBut in the case of mobile, we have this ppa as a "fork" place and everybody can upload to it, so the rules aren't really the same10:07
loolBut it should really go away next cycle10:07
loolIt's quite painful to deal with10:07
horaceli:-). you must suffer a lot.10:07
horacelilool, I will put a marquee-plugins package with my patch to ppa10:08
loolYes, I'm rolling on the floor and crying10:08
loolhoraceli: Ok10:08
loolToddBrandt: Hmm you mention moblin-applets 0.60 in #224123, but I don't see the tarball in /releases on moblin.org?10:18
StevenKhoraceli: I have a marquee-plugins prepared.11:05
StevenKhoraceli: I just need to test it before I upload.11:05
theseinfeldhowdy11:29
theseinfeldis it me, or the ports.ubuntu.com is down?11:30
theseinfeldyes11:30
theseinfeldsorry11:30
theseinfeldit is me :)11:30
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stuporglueI installed the ubuntu-mobile package, and compared the list of packages it installs to the packages installed in an image created by the Moblin Image Creator. There are a lot of packages that aren't installed by the ubuntu-mobile package -- should this be the case?15:18
loolstuporglue: Other packages are pulled by so called FSets15:19
loolThis is a concept of the tool used to create images, MIC15:19
lool(moblin-image-creator)15:19
loolI'm not too hot about using FSets, they are simply a way to list packages to install in a file15:19
loolIt probably makes sense to have such a concept to customize builds / images for use cases, such as hardware platforms15:20
loolMost of the software stack should be pulled by ubuntu-mobile though15:20
stuporglueAre fsets supposed to pull in platform specific packages, or specific use case packages? Eg. Openoffice is installed by MIC (samsung target), but not the ubuntu-mobile package15:20
loolSo this is typically inappropriate; I think the software stack shouldn't be influenced by the choice of target platform15:21
loolWe could imagine having things like ubuntu-mobile-mid and ubuntu-mobile-subnotebook in the future when we want to switch between multiple stacks, but it's a very future thought15:21
stuporglueI see. It still seems that the ubuntu-mobile package is missing stuff though. eg. it includes a launcher for pidgin on the desktop, but doesn't include the pidgin-mameo package, and the hicolor icon theme isn't included which makes the volume/brightness icons not appear. 15:23
loolIt's quite likely that it is indeed missing stuff15:24
StevenKThe ubuntu-mobile package in Hardy doesn't include pidgin-maemo because pidgin-maemo isn't in Hardy.15:25
StevenKThe ubuntu-mobile package in the PPA does, because the PPA includes pidgin-maemo.15:25
loolOh good point; stuporglue: make sure you check the ubuntu-mobile pacakge in the ppa15:25
loolThe builds aren't based on hardy alone, but on hardy + ppa15:25
stuporgluegotcha. I may have added the ppa sources after I installed ubuntu-mobile. Sorry about that15:26
stuporglueI'll do an install and make sure I have the ppa sources, then look at this again. 15:27
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Bert_2hi, can someone help me with installing/Xnesting ubuntu-mobile as I don't really get what I'm supposed to do if I look at the wiki16:49
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