/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/06/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Hobbseeanother missing feature of ubotu02:35
Hobbseethe meeting stuff02:35
Seeker`the @now thing?02:36
naliothSeeker`: yes02:37
Piciyes02:39
Piciits in the webcal plugin02:40
axod3Hi, the mibbit client from mibbit.com seems to be banned from entering the channel #ubuntu . , Can this behavior be changed ?04:42
axod3As it is possible now within the client to ban users from ident.04:42
axod3Attention to this matter would be very aprciative .04:42
axod3If the mibbit client could be unbaned from #ubuntu and afiliations , do to new identify structure and LP that is now inplace i would be greatful for any consideration in this matter.04:44
tonyyarussoaxod3: the bots automatically grant an exeption to any users that follow the instructions given by said bots in #ubuntu-proxy-users04:45
axod3Hi Tony, mibbit is not an ordinary web 2.0 application as it has full ident support as of april 1st. , A channel operator need only ban by identify for any user should they need to.04:46
axod3User's IP and Hostname are clearly visible within there perninent information.04:47
tonyyarussoThe point is that there are more abusive users than legitimate ones, so it makes more sense to start with the ban and grant exceptions, rather than the other way around.  Given that the exceptions are automated, this shouldn't be a problem.04:47
axod3There are also flood controll in place that are very strict.04:48
axod3Tony, Given ubuntu's large user base however it may deter the applications new users from using said service.04:49
axod3Although I do not disagree with you on the matter .04:49
tonyyarussoFlood control doesn't stop a single user...04:50
axod3..04:50
axod3There are also other backend refineries being implimented that stops users from spaming and becoming beligerant .04:51
Hobbseeaxod3: btw, do you work for / contribute to mibbit?04:51
axod3Please take into account your channels popularity at the time being.04:51
axod3Hobbsee, Yes both . Thank you for asking.04:52
Hobbseeright04:52
Hobbseeaxod3: what are the backend refineries being implemented?04:52
Hobbseetonyyarusso: they can only abuse with mibbit once, i suspec.t04:53
axod3We are working on vulgarity and link controll constructs for new users and constructs of the same for newly registered members and non registered members.04:54
axod3All brewing in the fire so to speak.04:54
Hobbseedo you also do flood control?04:54
tonyyarussoHobbsee: with static IP at least.04:54
axod3Yes. we have server end flood controll.04:55
Hobbseetonyyarusso: well, yeah.04:55
* Hobbsee nods04:55
axod3We also have no cloaking of any kind , not even for myself.04:55
Hobbseeaxod3: so mibbit could be censoring the content that goes through.  interesting.04:55
axod3Hobbsee, only for non registrations04:55
axod3ATM.04:55
Hobbseevery interesting.04:56
axod3As mentioned earlier all these features are brewing in the fire . , Non have been implemented yet.  Mibbit is a entry level web 2.0 project build on java neo.04:56
Hobbseeaxod3: how long until they are implemented?04:57
Hobbsee(estimate)04:57
axod3Testing is still perninant , If i where to make a rough guess I would says within mid to early summer.04:57
axod3say* scuse me04:58
Hobbseeaxod3: are you in the northern or southern hemisphere?04:58
Hobbseegiving an answer as a season is annoying, and is ignoring half the planet.04:58
axod3Northern  , Servers are located in washington DC as well04:58
Hobbseegive an answer as a set of months, to avoid ambiguity :)04:58
Hobbseeright, so that's my winter.  a few months.04:59
axod3:) With regards to ambiguity .04:59
axod3May i ask who is the seniour operator in this channel ?04:59
Hobbseethere are multiple04:59
axod3And the seniour among them ?05:00
Hobbseethe actual council is made up of LjL, nalioth, elkbuntu and PriceChild 05:00
Hobbseethat being said, i can't imagine allowing it until you've implemented the aforementioend features.05:01
axod3If i may make a suposition , PriceChild  is the seniour operator ?05:01
tonyyarussoThere is no single person.05:01
Hobbseethere is no singular senior operator.05:01
Axod4There is also no idling allowed as my server is still in beta and I have a strict 24 hour idle policy.05:05
Axod4Sqaters are booted so to speak05:05
Axod4Squaters*05:05
Axod4I would apreciate any aprehension in these matters . , Thanks for the time.05:05
Axod4Take care.05:06
* tonyyarusso didn't understand the usage of half those words05:06
ScottKSomeone named flyback is being insulting and difficult in #ubuntu-server.  I'd appreciate it if someone would kick him.05:07
tonyyarussoScottK: nobody here has access.05:08
ScottKOdd.05:09
Hobbseecall staff?05:09
ScottKWe don't get a lot of trouble in #ubuntu-server.05:09
ScottKI guess.05:09
ScottKMaybe it just hasn't come up before.05:09
tonyyarussolikely.05:10
tonyyarussoHobbsee: staff isn't on the list either.05:10
tonyyarussoOnly infinity, soren, lamont, mathiaz, and thom.05:10
ScottKOK.  Thanks.05:12
ScottKSee you later then.05:13
bazhangis tr0gdor a bot? !uptime made him respond with something about windows vista06:27
mneptoklooks like an uptime script06:30
mneptokHost 'snowwhite', running Linux 2.6.20-16-server - Cpu0: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu1: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu2: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu3: Intel 2660 MHz; Up: 79d+12:53; Users: 12; Load: 0.58; Free: [Mem: 6247/16241 Mio] [Swap: 1901/1906 Mio] [: / Mio] [/boot: 173/236 Mio]; Vpenis: 688.3 cm;06:30
mneptoklike so :)06:30
bazhangwow; should k him/it?06:30
mneptokwarnif he does it again, kicka nd ban after?06:31
mneptok*warn if06:31
bazhangokay thanks06:31
mneptokblah. me and <spacebar> are fighting06:31
mneptokand we used to be so close06:31
mneptokwell, as close as space gets.06:31
bazhang:)06:31
bazhanghe turned it off 06:34
bazhangmneptok, you around?07:30
bazhangor others using chanserv.py :)07:32
MyrttiWTH07:33
Myrttilook at ot07:33
MyrttiI'm reaaaaallly starting to think fujisan and piero are the same person07:34
bazhangdont think I have operatpr in there07:34
Myrttiyou probably don't07:34
bazhangor operator ;(07:34
Myrtti@login07:35
ubottuMyrtti: The operation succeeded.07:35
Myrtti!vista is ~= s/the the/the/07:36
ubottuBut vista already means something else!07:36
Myrtti!vista ~= s/the the/the/07:36
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:36
Myrtti*sigh*07:36
Myrttidoes anyone remember how that was done?07:36
bazhangthought it was !no such and such is blah07:37
Myrtti!no vista ~= s/the the/the/07:38
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:38
MyrttiWHAT THE HELL07:39
Myrttihe plays with the bot in pm with useless factoids?07:39
bazhangmy mistake sorry07:39
bazhangdo you use chanserv.py Myrtti ?07:40
MyrttiI'm an irssi girl07:41
bazhangaha :)07:41
Myrtti[09:41] Irssi uptime: 67d 23h 59m 33s07:42
bazhangwow :)07:42
Myrttithat's peanuts07:42
Myrttiirssi is on as long as the server is07:43
Myrttiand the server is in a server hotel in Espoo with UPS's, carbon dioxide extinguishing etc.07:43
Myrtti/me huggles ssh, screen and irssi07:44
bazhanghaha07:44
Myrttievery hardcore irc user should give irssi a shot07:46
bazhangI just switched to xchat from konv07:46
Myrttiit's magnificent on it's own, but running on a server connectable with ssh, inside screen that keeps it on all the time...07:47
Myrtti<307:47
* jussi01 huggles quassel07:47
bazhangusing the python script chanserv.py to do stuff; a kick is just a kick right? not a ban, i.e. users can then rejoin?07:47
jussi01Myrtti: you forgot is...07:49
Myrtti!no vista is ~= s/the the/the/07:49
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti07:49
Myrttithanks jussi01 07:49
jussi01:)07:50
jussi01!vista07:50
ubottuvista is ~= s/the the/the/07:50
jussi01hrm07:50
Myrttidanghhhh07:50
Myrttigoddammit07:50
jussi01*cry*07:50
Myrtti/me fixes07:50
Myrtti!no vista is <answer> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:51
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti07:51
Myrtti!vista07:52
ubottuvista is <answer> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:52
MyrttiGGGGGRRRAAA07:52
Myrtti!no vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:52
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti07:52
Myrtti!vista07:52
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:52
Myrtti/me takes a few steps back07:52
bazhangconvered07:53
Myrtti!Vista07:53
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:53
Myrtti!-Vista07:53
ubottuvista aliases: windowsvista - added by Seveas on 2007-01-30 21:00:0607:53
Myrtti!no Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows07:54
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti07:54
jussi01having fun Myrtti?07:55
Myrttijussi01: not exactly, as there's something broken07:56
jussi01Myrtti: what do you want it to say?07:57
Myrttiit now says what it should07:57
jussi01ok07:57
bazhangexcept for the spelling error convered :)07:57
Myrttibut the replacement and the <answer> thing worked just few days ago07:58
Myrtti*shrug*07:58
jussi01Myrtti: <reply> only works after a !no07:58
Myrttioh07:59
MyrttiI'll get me coffee07:59
jussi01:)07:59
ikonia_zcz in ubuntu07:59
ikonia_spamming07:59
ikonia_bad07:59
tonyyarussobahaha08:00
jussi01heh08:00
bazhanghe can rejoin though correct? absent a ban?08:01
ikonia_thanks08:01
tonyyarussoyes, but not anymore.08:02
bazhangapparently so :)08:02
Myrtti[10:02] <zCz> Myr††i08:02
Myrtti[10:02] *** zCz [n=~zCz@88.227.78.135]08:02
Myrtti[10:02] ***  ircname  : øne †urk Agains† †he WørLd ! ! !08:02
Myrtti[10:02] <zCz> yøu †røJan08:02
Myrtti[10:02] <zCz> I wiLL send08:02
Myrtti[10:02] <zCz> AScûg¢SAcÛÐASc¢sa08:02
Myrttihe's asking for a k-train08:03
* jussi01 sighs08:05
Myrttianyone else got that?08:05
jussi01not I08:10
=== ikonia_ is now known as ikonia
ubottuIn ubottu, ikonia said: !no officialdocs is "Before doing anythin you don't know about in ubuntu check the official ubuntu document reposority and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the ubuntu community for the ubuntu OS, This will give you a tried and tested and most importantly, SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward08:17
ikonias/anythin/anything08:18
bazhangtried, tested and most importantly08:18
ikoniabetter08:18
bazhangperhaps also eliminate 'about in'08:19
ikoniayes, thats bad english08:20
bazhangand repository :)08:20
ikoniacommunity for Ubuntu. This will give you atried, tested and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward08:22
ikoniaoops08:22
ikonia!no officialdocs is "Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward08:23
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !no officialdocs is "Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward08:23
ikonianice one bazhang 08:24
ikoniamuch better08:24
bazhangthanks ikonia :)08:24
Myrtti!officialdocs08:25
ubottuFactoid officialdocs not found08:25
Myrtti!officialdocs is <reply> officialdocs is Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward.08:26
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:26
jussi01Myrtti: only after a no... add it first with out the <reply>08:26
MyrttiDAMNIT08:26
jussi01Myrtti: may I?08:27
Myrtti!officialdocs08:27
ubottuofficialdocs is Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward.08:27
Myrtti*colabwurp*08:27
Myrttisure, go ahead ;-)08:27
jussi01!no, officialdocs is <reply>Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward.08:28
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0108:28
jussi01!officialdocs08:28
ubottuBefore doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward.08:28
jussi01how sdoes that look?08:28
bazhangnice :)08:28
Myrttinow where was I08:29
ikoniathats good for me08:29
ikoniathank you08:29
* elkbuntu sighs at piero trolling -offtopic with the vista factoid *again*08:45
ikoniawhat is the problem with !visa factoid, I thought it was quite good now ?08:46
Myrttithere was double the08:47
ikoniais that troll worthy ?08:47
Myrttiwhich is why I tried s/the the/the/08:48
ikoniait looked ok when we put it in, did ubotu bork ?08:48
Myrttiprobably not08:48
ikoniajust something we missed 08:48
elkbuntuikonia, yes... but the whole "1. join, 2. ask if there's ops or mods around, 3. !vista" thing is getting old08:49
ikoniaelkbuntu: no no, I understand that, but the content of it now is not worth trolling08:49
ikoniaeg: there is no argument08:49
ikoniait's polite, factual, helpful08:50
ikoniaeg: !vista.....errr errrr, oh its good08:50
elkbuntuyes, but he does it because it gets reactions from the mere mention of 'vista' in a linux channel08:50
ikoniaahhhhhha08:50
Myrttiyes08:50
ikoniayes, that is a pain "don't mention microsux in a linux channel" etc08:50
elkbuntuhe's using it to stir08:50
ikoniaI don't understand why people bash it08:50
Myrttihe could do it in a) pm to the bot b) pm to an op he's done business with before c) here08:51
Myrttibut no08:51
Myrttihe does it in -ot08:51
elkbuntuMyrtti, he's not after the information at all08:51
Myrttinope08:51
Myrttijust trolling08:51
elkbuntuhe's after the reaction08:51
ikoniawhats the status of the mediaubuntu repo's are they supported ?08:51
elkbuntunot sure, you'd have to ask cluey people such a -motu08:52
jpatrickikonia: supported by the Ubuntu team?09:06
ikoniajpatrick: in any aspect09:07
ikoniaI was under the impression it was dropped09:07
jpatrickHmm, as I understand only the Medibuntu developers (https://launchpad.net/~medibuntu-maintainers) has rights there09:09
bazhangthe exiztens guy is back :)09:09
jpatrickbazhang: don't you just love it when they come back for more09:10
Myrttiwhut where09:10
bazhangmain channel 09:10
Myrttioh09:10
bazhangjpatrick, :)09:10
ikoniajpatrick: thank you, thats as I understood it also09:10
jpatrickikonia: by the look of their LP announcements, they've prepared packages for Hardy09:11
ikoniayes they have09:12
ikoniaI've seen mixed results from people, hence my question09:12
ikoniajpatrick: too many people pointing at it as an easy fix09:12
jpatrick-> http://lists.medibuntu.org/pipermail/announce/2008-April/000001.html - they do have interesting highlights09:12
ikoniaI like what they are trying to do 09:13
ikonianot calling them for it09:13
Myrttiheads up Xcell09:22
elkbuntuugh09:25
elkbuntuwhere?09:25
Myrtti#ubuntu09:25
Myrttihe might be a different person though09:25
Myrttijust noticed the nick09:26
bazhangno its him09:26
ikoniaDaviey: do you have some sort of issue with me asking a quesiton about a bot in -uk ?09:29
ikoniaDaviey: I'm asking here as I don't want to ask / make an issue in channel09:30
ikoniaDaviey: please enlighten me as to what was wrong with asking about the bot ?09:32
Seeker`AIUI, bots are allowed in channels as long as the channel owners agree09:32
ikoniaI didn't say they didn't09:32
ikoniaughh09:32
ikoniaI didn't say they where not09:33
ikoniaI've never seen the bot do it, and it was spewing out content from a site I've just had to spend time fixing with someone, so I asked if it was meant to advertise non-ubuntu links as solutions09:33
Davieyikonia: This is OT for this channel.  #ubuntu-irc is the correct place, or pm09:34
ikoniafine, I'll join #ubuntu-irc or a pm, your choice? 09:34
Nafallohi. seems I have joined to many channels. can I get that extended?09:53
DavieyNafallo: you need to speak to a freenode stafer, #freenode might be better09:54
Davieystaffer*09:54
Nafallooh. thought they where here and due to my ubuntu-cloak I would go through here not to bother upstream as much.09:55
Nafalloalso, I can't join #freenode :-P09:55
Daviey /wc THEN /j #freenode :)09:56
Davieyoh, these noobs :)09:56
Nafallohave no channel I want to quit ;-)09:57
Nafalloactually. there is one.09:57
elkbuntu!noob10:53
ubottuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.10:53
Mezn00b != acronymn11:11
Seeker`n00b = statement11:15
stdinMyrtti/jussi01: for sed like replacement it's =~ not ~= (I know, why?), or you can use <sed>11:33
jussi01stdin: thanks! was wondering that11:34
Myrttioh, I had it the other way around then11:35
stdinI do ~= a lot too, I may even edit the code to allow ~= sometime11:36
jussi01stdin: can you give me an example?11:36
stdin!test =~ /Failed/Failed!/11:36
ubottuI'll remember that stdin11:36
stdin!test11:37
ubottuFailed!11:37
jussi01ahh, thank you very much :)11:37
Mezand (carrying on conversation from earlier) - noob is allowed dependant on the context11:42
MyrttiI still have the ongoing promise that a person giving rtfm as a sole answer is kicked11:45
Myrttiit applies atleast on the -fi channels when I visit them11:46
Myrttirtfm is the reason I'm using ubuntu11:46
Myrttiand the reason I'm not using debian11:46
naliothHobbsee: tonyyarusso: axod is the owner of mibbit, so next time he arrives here, ask him to identify when making requests  ;)12:12
naliothhe has been very open to our suggestions in the past12:12
jussi01Ok peoples, we now have functional the intrepid package search :)12:13
jussi01!info waon intrepid12:13
ubottuwaon: A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB12:13
Myrtti!info waon12:16
ubottuwaon: A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB12:16
Myrttijussi01: oh puhLEEZE12:16
Myrtti/me larts jussi01 12:16
stdinMyrtti: I think ~= should work now too12:16
Myrttistdin: cool12:16
stdin!test ~= /Failed!/Failed/12:16
ubottuI'll remember that stdin12:16
stdin:)12:17
jussi01Myrtti: thats my package, of course Im going to use that one :P12:17
Myrttijussi01: you did intrepid before you made gutsy the default.12:17
Myrtti-_____-12:17
jussi01huh?12:18
jussi01hardy is the default...12:18
Myrttioh damn12:18
MyrttiI'm still living on a pre hardy time zone12:18
jussi01hehe12:18
MyrttiI'll get me coffee12:18
* jussi01 hands Myrttia strong coffe12:18
jussi01I got to run. see you all later12:19
lucentI've been advised to show up here and apologize for my behavior in #ubuntu14:07
bazhanglucent you have an issue?14:07
lucentnot really, I don't get paid to help out in #ubuntu, I would do it on my own time14:08
lucentit's fine with me if I don't fit in there14:08
PiciWe're all volunteers there.14:08
bazhanglucent, none get paid14:09
lucentthe way I was ejected from the channel a few minutes ago was unsavvy 14:09
bazhanglucent you were not banned; you may rejoin14:10
lucentwhy would I return?  I was not made aware of what I did wrong14:10
naliothlucent: #ubuntu is a support channel for the Ubuntu OS14:10
naliothnon support discussion should take place in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere14:11
lucentso I've been told a dozen times already14:11
lucentit really says nothing to do with me14:11
lucentwhat I've joined here to say, is that it really bothers me a person would be treated this way, especially on the "main" IRC channel resource for Ubuntu14:14
naliothlucent: don't feel singled out, we ask that all off topic chatters take their topics to #ubuntu-offtopic 14:15
lucentno one addressed the guy who was asking about Ubuntu being slow and crashing, I offered some advice14:15
lucentI've been asking about P+Q writing because it's something I want my OS to be able to do14:16
lucentand hard disks might be off topic but I'm only addressing a reply to an existing topic of discussion14:16
lucentI worked for 9 months in a datacenter and know a thing or two about failure rates of hard disks, so I'm offering a valuable contribution to a discussion in place14:17
lucentif you think that's worthy of kicking a person out of the channel, while the oper responsible is talking about unlocking iPhones and other dubious matters?14:18
lucentit doesn't add up.14:18
bazhanglucent that was directly related to getting a smartphone to work with ubuntu; another op said you were offtopic to which you responded to him 'you got a problem'?14:19
lucentyeah14:19
lucentwell did he?14:19
lucentI don't know who's reading into this too much14:19
lucentI'm asking what am I doing wrong14:19
lucentsomeone tells me to "calm down"14:20
lucentI wasn't upset then, I was very confused why I'm being bot'ed with the rules14:20
naliothbecause you were seen to be off topic14:23
jriblucent: the durability of seagate hard drives is offtopic, it's not a support issue.  I asked that you move this to #ubuntu-offtopic.  For some reason, you are taking this as a personal attack.  It's not.  We're just trying to make sure that people get help with ubuntu issues in #ubuntu14:23
lucentthat's fine, I wish I'd known that it was my remark about seagate drives before I was kicked from the channel14:23
lucentwhich is a topic of discussion from someone else14:24
lucentbut whatever14:24
lucentI got singled out.14:24
jribsometimes we miss things, that doesn't mean that you weren't offtopic14:24
bazhanglucent it was the abuse you offered subsequent to that14:24
lucentabuse?14:24
jrib"what the hell?"  "jrib: got a problem?"  seems more aggressive than "What exactly was offtopic?".  Maybe you didn't mean it to be aggressive, but that's how it seems14:26
lucentI don't know, you take that personally?   It's just text on a screen to me14:26
jribNope, I don't take it personally14:27
lucentI should hope not, it was only intended as stated.14:27
jribwhich can be interpreted differently than what you intended.14:28
bazhangindeed14:28
lucentI'm not nice to people who spam me, okay? Sorry your being offended.14:30
bazhangbest to ask for clarification then to immediately move to confrontation lucent14:31
PriceChildlucent: we ask that everyone in the very busy channel #ubuntu tries to stay on topic - ubuntu support. I hope we can move on?14:31
PiciIts bad etiquette otherwise.14:31
lucentyeah I don't consider this worth the time it's taking14:31
jribagreed14:32
Picialrighty14:32
bazhangtoo hasty?14:32
ikoniaodd that someone is offended by getting text from ubotu, but then says "its no big deal it's just text to me"14:32
Hobbseeunsolicited text, probably14:33
PiciSome people dont like listening to bots.14:34
ikoniaubottu is getting better14:34
LjLuh what?14:34
jribhe's evolving14:34
LjLmy drive says it's got 685 hours usage14:34
Hobbseei'ts not permanent, though.14:34
LjLbut that's not even a month on14:34
jribLjL: integer overflow?14:35
LjLjrib: dunno, the raw attribute is "233"14:35
LjLsorry no that's the normalized attribute maybe14:35
LjLwell so maybe overflow, but why do they make something that counts time able to overflow in a drive's lifetime? >:14:35
LjLthey didn't make my car's mileage counter overflow14:36
naliothLjL: did you have a meeting time and date preference ( to discuss bots and bantrackers )?14:36
LjL25:00, february 2914:36
Hobbseehah14:37
jribLjL: I hope that's not the case, it was more of a joke :)14:37
MyrttiI'm getting tired over that one feller at ot14:46
Myrttithe joke is getting old14:46
bazhangvista?14:47
Myrttino, Xcell14:47
bazhangwow I had to have a chat with him earlier too14:47
Hobbseehe's still banned in #ubuntu, afaik14:48
bazhanghe was there earlier today14:48
Hobbseehmm, i thought he was supposed to only come back in a week14:49
Hobbseeompaul and LjL did it, iirc14:49
bazhangunless there are two xcell's14:49
LjLi don't remember the nick14:49
MyrttiXce11 != Xcell14:49
naliothno, they are the same14:49
MyrttiI know14:50
naliothxceII and xcell14:50
Hobbseejussi01: can you add ubottu to #ubuntu-x please?14:50
Myrttibut banwise they're not the same14:50
tjaaltonHobbsee: thanks :)14:50
Picix?14:50
bazhangthe one from ubuntu seemed the same when I talked to him today via PM14:50
HobbseePici: yes, the one that draws pictures on hte screen.14:50
PiciHobbsee: Ahh.. I thought it was some country code that I wasn't familiar with.14:51
HobbseePici: :)  Xantarctica.14:51
bazhangserious 040 in offtopic15:06
jussi01ubottu: join #ubuntu-x15:06
jussi01Hobbsee: ^15:06
Hobbseethanks15:07
jussi01:)15:07
tjaaltonthanks :)15:11
bazhangxcell ;[15:32
tonyyarussonalioth: sure :)15:57
jdaviesjussi01: could we get the bot in #ubuntu-meeting and the Webcal calendar on?16:04
jdaviesjussi01: Webcal plugin that is16:05
jussi01ubottu: join #ubuntu-meeting16:05
jussi01@now helsinki16:05
ubottujussi01: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 06 2008, 18:07:2216:05
jussi01hrm16:05
naliothjdavies: as you know, the bots are not up to spec yet16:05
jussi01oh, just a bit slow16:05
jdaviesnalioth: doesn't it have the old plugins?16:05
naliothjdavies: depends on who's running it16:06
jussi01@list16:06
ubottujussi01: Admin, Alias, Bantracker, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Encyclopedia, Filter, FreenodeAuth, Geekquote, Lart, Misc, Owner, Reply, Services, User, Utilities, and Webcal16:06
jussi01webcal is loaded...16:06
jdavies@search Webcal16:07
ubottujdavies: supybot.plugins.Webcal, supybot.plugins.Webcal.public, supybot.plugins.Webcal.url, supybot.plugins.Webcal.filter, supybot.plugins.Webcal.topic, supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic, and supybot.plugins.Webcal.defaultChannel16:07
jdavies@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.url16:07
ubottujdavies:  16:07
jdaviesjussi01: should be http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/ical I think ^16:07
jussi011 sec16:08
jussi01@now helsinki16:08
jdaviesand supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic = True16:08
ubottujussi01: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 06 2008, 18:10:57 - Next meeting: Community Council in 5 hours 49 minutes16:08
jussi01:)16:08
jdavies@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic True16:09
jdaviesIt hates me :(16:10
Hobbsee@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic16:10
bazhangwow jono is in the channel :)16:10
Hobbseeubottu: whoami16:10
jdaviesbazhang: he has been since ages...16:10
Hobbseemethinks it went silent.16:10
bazhangjdavies, first time xchat user-->the jono has joined was a first for me :)16:11
jussi01@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.url True16:11
jussi01:/16:11
jdaviesjussi01: not the .url the .doTopic16:11
jussi01:/16:12
Hobbsee@help16:12
jussi01ok, leave it for a min16:12
jdavieshi JonathanS or... D16:12
ubottujdavies: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.16:13
ubottuHobbsee: False16:13
ubottuHobbsee: hobbsee16:13
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.16:13
ubottuHobbsee: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.16:13
jdavieserrrr16:13
Hobbseethere we are...16:13
Hobbseelaggy bot16:13
jussi01bleh16:13
jdaviesjussi01: @config supybot.plugins.Webcal.url http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/ical16:14
jussi01@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic True16:14
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.16:14
* jussi01 waits...16:14
jussi01jdavies: done already...16:14
jdaviesjussi01: it's back in business in -meeting16:15
jdaviesOH DAMN16:15
Hobbseehey, it just did it in every channel.16:15
Myrttisomeone is flooding it badly16:15
jussi01:/16:15
Picisomeone?16:16
jdaviesdamn, we forget:  supybot.plugins.Webcal.defaultChannel16:16
LjLare the flooding it, or is it just trying to join too many channels now?16:16
* Hobbsee suspect it trying to change topics in every channel wouldn't have helped.16:16
Hobbseedidn't manage -motu though16:16
jdaviesLjL: it changed every channel without +t16:16
PiciHobbsee: That was probably it16:17
Myrttiwell for instance, Piero_Scaruffi showed a screenshot him using ubottu to get !love !hate and whatnot16:17
LjLnice16:17
* jussi01 sighs :/16:17
Hobbseegah, piero.16:17
MyrttiI expect there might be some other users that just abuse it16:17
jdaviesjussi01: best do @config supybot.plugins.Webcal.defaultChannel #ubuntu-meeting16:17
Picithe bot might need a real reset16:17
jdaviesor just edit the config by hand16:18
bazhangubottu :(16:19
Pici...16:20
jussi01ok, Ill kill it and restart it16:20
Picijussi01: You may want to clear the set topic config from the config file after you kill it so16:21
jussi01sure16:22
Myrttipoor ubottu16:26
jussi01should be coming back up now... :(16:29
jussi01ok, leave it for a moment while it syncs16:30
Myrtti/me waits16:30
jussi01!test16:31
ubottuFailed16:31
jussi01ok then.16:31
stdinjussi01: did you set the ical URL?16:32
jussi01@now helsinki16:33
ubottujussi01: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 06 2008, 18:35:10 - Next meeting: Community Council in 5 hours 24 minutes16:33
Piciwoo16:33
jussi01yep16:33
jdaviesand the .defaultChannel?16:33
jussi01no, havent touched that yet... taking it slow...16:33
jussi01:D16:33
stdin@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.defaultChannel16:33
ubottustdin: #ubuntu-meeting16:33
jussi01@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.defaultChannel #ubuntu-meeting16:33
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.16:33
jussi01:)16:34
jdaviesOK16:34
Picidotopic is a channel specific value, so you need to either specify ubuntu meeting or do the command there16:34
Pici@config list plugins.webcal16:34
ubottuPici: #doTopic, #filter, #topic, #url, defaultChannel, and public16:34
Pici@config channel #ubuntu-meeting dotopic16:35
ubottuPici: Error: 'supybot.dotopic' is not a valid configuration variable.16:35
PiciI think you just need: @config channel #ubuntu-meeting plugins.webcal.dotopic true16:36
jussi01@config channel #ubuntu-meeting supybot.plugins.Webcal.doTopic True16:38
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.16:38
jussi01seems ok... :)16:39
stdinjussi01: you should run ntpdate once in a while16:40
stdin6 May 18:42:26 ntpdate[993]: step time server 91.189.94.4 offset -126.290227 sec16:40
jdavies...16:41
HobbseeCalendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 16:42
Hobbseeis still missing16:42
PiciI suspect thats the topic fields16:43
Picis/fields/field/16:43
stdinmaybe that's something to do with supybot.plugins.Webcal.topic16:44
Picistdin: Thats what I was trying to refer to16:44
stdintry settings it to, 'Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | %s'16:45
jussi01@config supybot.plugins.Webcal.topic 'Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | %s'16:46
ubottujussi01: The operation succeeded.16:46
stdinthere it goes16:47
jussi01ok, Im heading out for abit. hopefully ubottu behaves herself17:16
Myrtti!ubotu17:20
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)17:20
Myrttiso ubottu's a girl and ubotu was a boy17:20
Myrttigood to know17:20
stdinit's temperamental, of course it's a girl17:21
* stdin ducks17:21
Myrttischmuck17:21
ubottuDaviey called the ops in #kubuntu (kurt)17:50
mneptokuh.18:07
Picimneptok: uh?18:07
mneptoknick above18:08
Myrttimneptok: don't scare us like that18:08
Picikurt?18:08
mneptokaye18:08
mneptok /w mneptok18:08
mneptokread that Daviey call and then read it again.18:09
mneptokthat was merely the ocular processing. the brain worked on it 4-5 times before it sank in.18:09
* jdavies hugs mneptok 18:09
MyrttiI need better glasses18:11
MyrttiI scrolled up and down #ubuntu and couldn't see Daviey calling ops at all18:12
Myrtti>____<18:12
jdaviesMyrtti: #kubuntu18:12
Myrttijdavies: well, d'oh18:12
MyrttiI said I need better glasses18:12
mneptokMyrtti: my groping in blindness seems to be communicable.18:13
PiciPerhaps someone needs better ears18:13
ubottuunop called the ops in #ubuntu ()18:18
jdaviesMyrtti: odd, did I /remove him before I +o?18:19
Myrttiyes you did18:20
stdinI see you op, /remove and deop18:20
Myrtti[20:20] < sortudo_78> <><> Please! Why Ubuntu 8.4 does not detect my PCMCIA  modem, when i type lsusb     ?18:21
MyrttiLOL18:21
Picilspcmcia18:22
Myrtti*bwurp*18:24
Myrttigetting bad wibes of -ot18:33
Picijussi01: ping19:10
Nafallobecause there is not 8.4, 8.04 though :-)19:10
jussi01Pici: pong19:11
Picijussi01: Is http://jussi01.com/web/factoids.cgi okay to give out to a user to search within ubottu's factoid?19:11
Picijussi01: or would you rather that stay private until we figure out whats going on with the bots?19:12
jussi01Pici: yes, however after some thought, its not something we want to put on the bot yet19:12
Picijussi01: so... yes?19:12
jussi01yes19:12
jussi01Pici: if it starts to get too hammered, Ill be taking it down19:13
Picijussi01: Understood19:13
Picifde: How can we help you?19:37
fdeCould someone please change the topic in #ubuntu to reflect issues with the main server? Also, could you suggest a factoid for further information, or advise what should be said?19:38
jussi01!slow19:38
Pici!lag19:38
ubottuThe Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.19:38
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag19:38
ompaulis it something like this ?  http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/19:38
fdejussi01: thanks! 19:39
ompaulmain server? please choose a mirror or some such that is closer19:39
fdeompaul: it's effecting many people... even <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com is having issues...19:39
ompaulor has more bandwidth -- for example choose the Irish Mirror ie19:39
ompaulthat has so much bandwidth it shifts more per day than kernel.org19:40
jussi01funet is good here19:40
fdeompaul: I have been advising to use a mirror, but I don't know if that's advisable, and I've typed it around 5 times in the last 20 mins... heh19:40
ompaulheanet.ie19:40
ompaulfde, it is most certainly advisable19:40
Nafallofde: what mirror are you using at the moment?19:40
ompaulfde, that is how we get the internet not to stop ;-)19:41
jdong*sigh* Dear Interwebs: Planet Ubuntu, IMO, is not an appropriate place for wanted placards.19:41
fdeompaul: Can you create a factoid for the issue that I can use for people in the channel advising System > Administration > Software Sources method for that?19:41
fdeNafallo: I'm using osu's mirror, but I didn't know if I should be advising others to use another mirror...19:41
ompaul!repos19:42
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories19:42
Myrttisystem - administration - software sources - ubuntu software ... download from Other ... Select Best Server19:42
Nafalloah. us. no diea then.19:42
Nafalloidea even19:42
ompaulhmm19:43
Myrttijdong: I was thinking about the same, though, the only gripe I've got is the cusswords19:43
fdeMyrtti: Can you make that into a polite factoid for ubotu and friends please? 19:43
ompaul!chrepo is <reply> system - administration - software sources - ubuntu software ... download from Other ... Select Best Server19:43
ubottuompaul: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:43
MyrttiI think there already is a factoid for it19:43
* ompaul looks at the bot19:43
MyrttiI just can't remember which19:44
ompaul!search  best19:44
ubottuFound: good, vnc, nickfork-#ubuntu-offtopic, synergy-#ubuntuforums, manuals, polls, favorite, repomirror, better, favourite19:44
Myrtti!repomirror19:44
ubottuGo to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the closest mirror to you automatically.19:44
Myrttithere you go19:44
fdeMyrtti: thank you  :)19:44
Pici!enablesources19:44
ubottuEnable the standard Ubuntu repositories by going to System > Administration > Software Sources - See !repositories for detailed information19:44
ompaulPici, chrepo short for change repo one alias please19:44
fdeMyrtti: Care to add that to the topic also, so some people can catch it before asking?19:44
fde(not that most actually read the topic, but some might... heh)19:45
Piciompaul: I didnt add anything, enablesources has been there since january19:45
MyrttiPici: since you did the previous topic change...19:46
Myrttiah, the repomirror still has that error19:47
Myrtti!repomirror ~= /closest mirror to/fastest mirror for/19:48
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, Myrtti said: !repomirror ~= /closest mirror to/fastest mirror for/19:48
Myrtti@login19:48
ubottuMyrtti: The operation succeeded.19:49
Myrtti!repomirror ~= /closest mirror to/fastest mirror for/19:49
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti19:49
Myrtti!repomirror19:49
ubottuGo to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the fastest mirror for you automatically.19:49
Myrttias silly as it sounds, when I was using HDSPA, the fastest mirror was in Estonia19:49
ompaulPici, na 19:50
Myrttiwhen in contrast the closest was in Finland19:50
ompaulwhat I meant was 19:50
ompauladd a chrepo factoid as an alais 19:50
ompaulalias even19:50
* ompaul desk heads cos that is all his head is useful for today 19:50
Myrttiompaul: have a cookie19:51
ompaulback to mucking with 3g modems19:51
ompaulthanks19:51
Myrtti/me pours ompaul a mug of chamomille infusion19:51
Pici!chrepo is <alias> enablesources19:51
ubottuPici: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:51
Pici..19:51
ompaul!help19:52
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)19:52
ompaul:-(   /cs m ubottu arrr shutup then  19:53
Myrtti!chrepo <alias> enablesources19:53
Myrttinothing?19:53
Myrtti!chrepo19:53
ubottuFactoid chrepo not found19:53
Myrtti!chrepo is <alias> enablesources19:53
ompauland I did not do any magic 19:53
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:53
Piciubottu: don't worry, no one thinks that19:53
* ompaul goes back to a huawei E22019:54
ompaulgame set and match to Pici 19:54
Seeker`ubottu: chrepo is <alias> enablesources19:55
stdin!chrepo is foo19:55
ubottuI'll remember that, stdin19:55
stdin!no chrepo is <alias> enablesources19:55
ubottuI'll remember that stdin19:55
stdinstupid bot19:55
ompaulstdin, understatement 19:55
ompaul:)19:55
stdinI'll try to fix that, as soon as I figure out what's happening, what's not happening and what I want to happen :/19:56
ompaulstdin, the last is more important :)19:58
ompaulright there goes half an fsckin CD download horray 19:59
* ompaul apologises - today is not happy bunny day for ompaul - you might have guessed19:59
* ompaul goes to play some real loud music 20:00
ompaul:)20:00
jdaviesKraftwerk!20:04
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
ompaulna20:10
ompaultoday it is the 80s20:10
ompaul Marillion20:10
ompaulwoops this is not -ot20:12
jussi01hehe20:17
jribwhat the heck is floodbot doing?20:38
jdaviesliving up to its name20:42
jdaviesLjL: please take a look into http://paste.ubuntu.com/10592/ (what jrib refers to... I think)20:44
Picijdavies, jrib, LjL: just ban whatever hostname that that user is coming from (announced in #ubuntu-ops-monitor) if they are abusing mibbit20:46
jribhow do I get voiced there :)20:47
jdavieshave a ubuntu/member/* cloak :)20:48
Picijrib: poke nal I suppose, he has access20:48
jribk20:49
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
Meztemporary voice :D21:15
jdaviesMez: ? in -monitor he means21:25
Mezah, jrib you need an ubuntu cloak21:26
jriberm21:27
jdaviesjrib: /cycle21:27
jribthanks21:28
Myrttihow can one make aliases for another channel?21:32
ompaultere is -channel iirc 21:33
ompaulthere even21:33
Myrttixubuntu needs altered one21:34
Myrtti*yawn*21:34
ompaulPici, ^^21:34
Myrttimy chamomille infusion  hasn't yet cooled21:34
Myrttiapplications - system - software sources21:34
* ompaul needs someting21:34
ompaulI think some mint tea21:34
* ompaul goes to watch a kettle boil21:34
ompaul:-)21:35
MyrttiI'll have to go buy more orange juice from lidl in glass bottles21:35
Myrttitheir necks are wide enough to stuff two teabags in the bottle and even getting them out21:35
Myrttiand since the bottle tops are normal metal ones, I could even vacuumize the tea21:36
MyrttiI could have gazillion bottles of cool mint or chamomille infusion ready21:36
ompaul* ubuntuser (n=ubuntuse@ubuntu/member/ubuntuser) has joined #ubuntu-meeting /me thinks there is a self referential comment in there somewhere21:42
ikoniado you think he uses ubuntu ?21:43
ompaulikonia, got to be a gentoo user has to be21:43
* ompaul chuckles21:43
Myrttisee -ot21:44
ikoniayes, certainly gentoo21:44
Myrttinotice Winkies ident and host?21:45
ikoniais that the right nick ?21:45
Myrttithere's something fishy21:45
ikoniamega fisy21:45
ikoniaunless he' making a personal statment21:45
ikoniaask him to change it21:46
ikoniasee how he responds21:46
ompaulthe domain21:46
ikoniait could be an inocent thing21:46
Myrttithere's something fishy that all those channel newbs became vocal all of a sudden21:46
ikoniathere is a uk domain regisered in the camen isleands21:46
ikoniaisland21:46
ikoniathat works at as "trashbat.co.ck"21:46
ompauluk ?21:46
ikoniaso it could be something as inocent as a teenage fan21:46
ikoniaompaul: camen islands21:46
Myrtticayman?21:47
ikoniathats the one21:47
ompaulahh21:47
ikonia.co.ck21:47
ompaulohh21:47
ikonianow you see it21:47
* ompaul blind21:47
ompaulhahahaahaha21:47
ikoniawhat I mean is it could be something as inoccent as that21:48
ikonianot appropriate, but the same idea21:48
ikoniaI guess how he reponds to "could you change it" would guage that21:48
ikoniaMyrtti: did you mean for caps ?21:50
Davieycook islands21:50
Myrttiyes21:50
ikoniaDaviey: is it cook, I thought it was caymen ?21:50
ikoniacould be cook21:50
stdinhmm, bunny in -meeting21:52
ikoniaI'll take questions afeter the meeting starts ?21:52
gnomefreakwhy do i have a feeeling i didnt read ageda that closely after someone removed him from here :(21:52
ikoniawho is bunny ?21:52
ompaulI did21:52
Davieyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ck21:52
ompauland he tried trolling me21:52
ompaulin #gnewsense21:53
ikoniaDaviey: nice find, thats the one21:53
jdonghands on *what*?21:54
jdongcrap wrong channel21:54
gnomefreakhis logs are not complete21:54
gnomefreakthat cant be good for him21:54
ikoniaI'm very dissapointed with bunny's topic21:55
ikoniaI think this will be an interesting discussio21:55
gnomefreak+121:55
ikoniadiscussion21:55
ikoniait's almost like it was written by someone else......21:55
ikoniasomneones gone to a reasonable level of effort to register tatterdmoons.org anonymously21:57
gnomefreakis bunny paladine?21:58
gnomefreakor is he just spamming the meeting?21:58
gnomefreakshould this be brought up to mdke prior to meeting?21:59
ikoniaa lot of the information on the page carries no eveidence22:00
ikoniasuch as the use of bad language22:00
ikoniaeg: 12:55 bum bum bum22:00
ikoniasee I can falsly put that into a html doc22:00
naliothi find it very amusing22:01
gnomefreakthey are all taken out of context in his "logs"22:01
ikoniaexactly22:02
ikoniaI could put a page up saying "X is a known troll 12:55 blah blah"22:02
ikoniabut it doesn't ammount to anything22:02
ikoniaor get anyone anything22:02
gnomefreakim wondering if i shouldnt ping one of the members and say he didnt add his point to ageda i would like all of it ignored22:02
gnomefreakuntil he puts it on ageda22:03
naliothwe do not know who, exactly, bunnyrevolution is, gnomefreak 22:03
gnomefreaknalioth: he spammed -meeting with his page22:04
gnomefreakstaff can ID him?22:04
naliothgnomefreak: let us watch our language.  just because _you_ may not like it, it's not spam22:05
naliothi think the sabdfl and crew can properly parse it for what it is22:05
* gnomefreak goes back to watching :(22:06
ompaulmneptok, ping on the side pm please22:07
gnomefreakhis name is supybot that is why we removed him personally :)22:08
ompauland as a side comment - seen in burges - I live in the city that farrell is from and we do talk like that ;-) it is the vernacular as they say 22:10
stdinthe page says the author is unknown and the logs have clearly been edited, their fore, worthless22:10
gnomefreakhe is someone we know well just need to ID him because he went out of his way very out of his way to protect his ID22:11
ompaula bunny revolution - spin a bunny on a spit over an open fire - after you used your knife and shotgun ;-)22:12
ubottusoundray called the ops in #ubuntu (Sypher)22:13
stdinand what's *eenode? how many are there?22:13
tonyyarussogleenode:  For all of you barbershop quartet discussion.22:14
tonyyarusso*your22:14
gnomefreakwho is cristal22:16
Seeker`what page are poeple talking about?22:16
gnomefreakcrystel22:16
gnomefreaksxehe doesnt have one anymore he stated hobbsee removed his comments22:16
gnomefreakSeeker`: ^^^22:16
naliothgnomefreak: head of freenode staff22:17
ikoniahow do you interupt politly within the meeting, eg: what is the polite thing ?22:17
gnomefreakoh ok22:18
gnomefreakah i remember her now 22:18
tonyyarussoikonia: put it in parenthesis maybe?  Or, if you can figure out who's keeping things on schedule, PM it to them to bring up at a more appropriate time.22:19
ikoniaa tad late, but noted 22:19
ikoniathank you22:19
gnomefreakah wgrant new nick :)22:20
wgrantgnomefreak: I've had this for over a week now.22:22
gnomefreaklast i saw your old name was over 3 months ago :)22:22
wgrantI guess it would have been.22:22
Myrtti/me rolls eyes22:25
* gnomefreak still scrolling to find where i lefft off22:26
Seeker`I dont think this meeting can achieve anything22:27
MyrttiI honestly feel sick.22:27
gnomefreakits not going to its just a bunch of this that this that22:28
* gnomefreak hands Myrtti a barf bag22:28
juliuxin ubuntu-de we learned just ignore them;)22:28
MyrttiFCOL22:31
tonyyarussoSeeker`: I highly doubt it as well.22:33
wgrantWe'll see - don't lose all faith just yet.22:33
MyrttiI've given up already22:33
tonyyarussotrue enough22:33
MyrttiI'm too emotional and stuff for this22:33
Myrttimakes my heart break22:34
Myrtticome hell or high water, I don't want to be there anymoe22:38
fdeI'm trying to add a factoid to ubottu "chmirror is If your current mirror is slow, please try going go System > Administration > Software Sources, in the "Ubuntu Software" tab, towards the middle, you will find "Download from:" and a drop down list, select "Other" and browse to a mirror near you or simply click "Select Best Server". Thank you."22:42
wgrantWhat good is the meeting if all the ops leave? :(22:42
jrib!repomirror22:42
ubottuGo to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the fastest mirror for you automatically.22:42
fdeHowever I'm not on its list of allowed editors or whatever, so could someone that does have permission add that?22:42
jribfde: already there I think?22:43
fdeI'm dumb, thanks jrib 22:43
Myrtti!no chmirror is <alias> repomirror22:43
ubottuI know nothing about chmirror yet, Myrtti22:43
Myrtti!chmirror is <answer> temp22:43
jribfde: no problem, thanks all the same :)22:43
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:43
Myrtti!chmirror is temp22:43
ubottuI'll remember that, Myrtti22:43
Myrtti!no chmirror is <alias> repomirror22:43
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti22:43
Myrtti!chmirror22:43
ubottuGo to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the fastest mirror for you automatically.22:43
Myrttithere we go22:43
Myrttiwgrant: I just couldn't be there anymore22:44
ikoniaHobbsee: are you here please 22:47
LjLhardly at this time i'm afraid22:47
ikoniadblast22:47
Myrttididn't someone just break their system using ubuntugeek tutorials?22:48
juliuxLjL, don't worries22:49
juliuxLjL, we hade a smiliar issue in the german channels22:49
LjLi'm not worrying22:49
LjLi was worrying before i left22:49
juliuxLjL, drink a beer and read the log22:50
juliux;)22:50
LjLthe logs won't be updated for some hours i think22:50
ikoniaMyrtti: yes22:51
ikoniaI request ubuntu-uk's bot stop advertising it22:51
Myrttisince doug_ just linked to it22:52
juliuxLjL, do you know the story about neoxan?22:54
PiciI'd appeciate some more ops being in meeting, I really don't have enough information to answer some of these questions. 22:55
LjLjuliux: sort of22:56
LjLPici,22:56
juliuxLjL, so cool down;)22:56
LjLif i'm in a position to answer questions,22:56
PiciLjL: I know you were there, I saw you leave22:56
LjLthen i'll join and answer questions.22:56
LjLotherwise,22:56
LjLi won't join or answer questions.22:56
stdinikonia: the -uk bot just posts links to blogs from planet ubuntu-uk, so you'd need to get them removed from the planet22:58
ikoniastdin: yes, I've made that request22:59
ikoniathat it's considered as a tool about what/how it outputs22:59
ikoniaI only saw it today for the first time, but it's a know bot and gives out good content normally22:59
Seeker`afaik, he has been removed from the uk planet23:01
ikoniaoh, I didn't want that to happen23:02
ikoniaI wasn't asking for him to be removed23:02
Seeker`ikonia: it was popeys decision23:18
ikoniafair enough23:19
ikoniait's his channel23:19
ikoniathat wasn't my intention though23:19
Seeker`its not permanent - he'll be readded if he cleans up his tutorials23:19
gnomefreakikonia: watch it dont go overboard in there23:20
ikoniaI'm out23:21
LjLi'd say "overboard" is the very definition of it all23:21
gnomefreakjust a freindly warning thats all23:21
PiciI'm glad that we're getting back to a more civilized discussion23:22
PiciRather than the free for all before23:22
gnomefreakLjL: i agree i wasnt here for all of this i caught the backend of emma in -party and she went at hobbsee but thats the first and almost las t i heard about it 23:22
LjLfor almost all23:23
popey23:19:06 < ikonia> it's his channel23:23
popeyit isnt23:23
gnomefreakbut honestly most of the complaints against emma have been documented in !commands for a long time example pm23:23
popeyi just removed it from the planet and asked him to clean up his how-tos23:23
popeyhe said he would23:23
popeyso the community is working with gogs to clean up his how tos23:23
popeyi see this as the best way forward23:24
Seeker`popey++23:24
ikoniapopey: I didn't mean your personal channel23:25
popeyok23:25
popeyi just wanted to clarify that it wasnt my opinion that it _was_ my channel, thats all23:26
ikoniapopey: bad choice of words23:26
ikonia"your one of the main points of contact" would have probably been more factually correct23:26
jribha, ubuntu-sucks.com goes to launchpad :)23:28
tonyyarussoused to go to ubuntu.com23:28
gnomefreakbrb smoke again23:29
Seeker`gnomefreak: put the fire out?23:29
gnomefreakthat would mean quiting :(23:29
Picijrib: I think it should forward to bugs.ubuntu.com. :P23:31
tonyyarussohaha, that works23:32
PiciThat was sarcasm.23:33
* juliux feels with all other irc ops23:34
* Pici gives Mez some buckets and a bilge pump23:43
jdonga WHAT?23:46
jdongoh *bilge*23:46
Myrttiwhat on earth is going on at -ot23:48
PiciMyrtti: dunno, watching -meeting still23:49
PriceChildWell I think that went well?23:59
tonyyarussoSeems to.23:59
tonyyarussoGotta run to class though, more thoughts later perhaps.23:59

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