[02:35] another missing feature of ubotu [02:35] the meeting stuff [02:36] the @now thing? [02:37] Seeker`: yes [02:39] yes [02:40] its in the webcal plugin [04:42] Hi, the mibbit client from mibbit.com seems to be banned from entering the channel #ubuntu . , Can this behavior be changed ? [04:42] As it is possible now within the client to ban users from ident. [04:42] Attention to this matter would be very aprciative . [04:44] If the mibbit client could be unbaned from #ubuntu and afiliations , do to new identify structure and LP that is now inplace i would be greatful for any consideration in this matter. [04:45] axod3: the bots automatically grant an exeption to any users that follow the instructions given by said bots in #ubuntu-proxy-users [04:46] Hi Tony, mibbit is not an ordinary web 2.0 application as it has full ident support as of april 1st. , A channel operator need only ban by identify for any user should they need to. [04:47] User's IP and Hostname are clearly visible within there perninent information. [04:47] The point is that there are more abusive users than legitimate ones, so it makes more sense to start with the ban and grant exceptions, rather than the other way around. Given that the exceptions are automated, this shouldn't be a problem. [04:48] There are also flood controll in place that are very strict. [04:49] Tony, Given ubuntu's large user base however it may deter the applications new users from using said service. [04:49] Although I do not disagree with you on the matter . [04:50] Flood control doesn't stop a single user... [04:50] .. [04:51] There are also other backend refineries being implimented that stops users from spaming and becoming beligerant . [04:51] axod3: btw, do you work for / contribute to mibbit? [04:51] Please take into account your channels popularity at the time being. [04:52] Hobbsee, Yes both . Thank you for asking. [04:52] right [04:52] axod3: what are the backend refineries being implemented? [04:53] tonyyarusso: they can only abuse with mibbit once, i suspec.t [04:54] We are working on vulgarity and link controll constructs for new users and constructs of the same for newly registered members and non registered members. [04:54] All brewing in the fire so to speak. [04:54] do you also do flood control? [04:54] Hobbsee: with static IP at least. [04:55] Yes. we have server end flood controll. [04:55] tonyyarusso: well, yeah. [04:55] * Hobbsee nods [04:55] We also have no cloaking of any kind , not even for myself. [04:55] axod3: so mibbit could be censoring the content that goes through. interesting. [04:55] Hobbsee, only for non registrations [04:55] ATM. [04:56] very interesting. [04:56] As mentioned earlier all these features are brewing in the fire . , Non have been implemented yet. Mibbit is a entry level web 2.0 project build on java neo. [04:57] axod3: how long until they are implemented? [04:57] (estimate) [04:57] Testing is still perninant , If i where to make a rough guess I would says within mid to early summer. [04:58] say* scuse me [04:58] axod3: are you in the northern or southern hemisphere? [04:58] giving an answer as a season is annoying, and is ignoring half the planet. [04:58] Northern , Servers are located in washington DC as well [04:58] give an answer as a set of months, to avoid ambiguity :) [04:59] right, so that's my winter. a few months. [04:59] :) With regards to ambiguity . [04:59] May i ask who is the seniour operator in this channel ? [04:59] there are multiple [05:00] And the seniour among them ? [05:00] the actual council is made up of LjL, nalioth, elkbuntu and PriceChild [05:01] that being said, i can't imagine allowing it until you've implemented the aforementioend features. [05:01] If i may make a suposition , PriceChild is the seniour operator ? [05:01] There is no single person. [05:01] there is no singular senior operator. [05:05] There is also no idling allowed as my server is still in beta and I have a strict 24 hour idle policy. [05:05] Sqaters are booted so to speak [05:05] Squaters* [05:05] I would apreciate any aprehension in these matters . , Thanks for the time. [05:06] Take care. [05:06] * tonyyarusso didn't understand the usage of half those words [05:07] Someone named flyback is being insulting and difficult in #ubuntu-server. I'd appreciate it if someone would kick him. [05:08] ScottK: nobody here has access. [05:09] Odd. [05:09] call staff? [05:09] We don't get a lot of trouble in #ubuntu-server. [05:09] I guess. [05:09] Maybe it just hasn't come up before. [05:10] likely. [05:10] Hobbsee: staff isn't on the list either. [05:10] Only infinity, soren, lamont, mathiaz, and thom. [05:12] OK. Thanks. [05:13] See you later then. [06:27] is tr0gdor a bot? !uptime made him respond with something about windows vista [06:30] looks like an uptime script [06:30] Host 'snowwhite', running Linux 2.6.20-16-server - Cpu0: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu1: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu2: Intel 2660 MHz Cpu3: Intel 2660 MHz; Up: 79d+12:53; Users: 12; Load: 0.58; Free: [Mem: 6247/16241 Mio] [Swap: 1901/1906 Mio] [: / Mio] [/boot: 173/236 Mio]; Vpenis: 688.3 cm; [06:30] like so :) [06:30] wow; should k him/it? [06:31] warnif he does it again, kicka nd ban after? [06:31] *warn if [06:31] okay thanks [06:31] blah. me and are fighting [06:31] and we used to be so close [06:31] well, as close as space gets. [06:31] :) [06:34] he turned it off [07:30] mneptok, you around? [07:32] or others using chanserv.py :) [07:33] WTH [07:33] look at ot [07:34] I'm reaaaaallly starting to think fujisan and piero are the same person [07:34] dont think I have operatpr in there [07:34] you probably don't [07:34] or operator ;( [07:35] @login [07:35] Myrtti: The operation succeeded. [07:36] !vista is ~= s/the the/the/ [07:36] But vista already means something else! [07:36] !vista ~= s/the the/the/ [07:36] Myrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:36] *sigh* [07:36] does anyone remember how that was done? [07:37] thought it was !no such and such is blah [07:38] !no vista ~= s/the the/the/ [07:38] Myrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:39] WHAT THE HELL [07:39] he plays with the bot in pm with useless factoids? [07:39] my mistake sorry [07:40] do you use chanserv.py Myrtti ? [07:41] I'm an irssi girl [07:41] aha :) [07:42] [09:41] Irssi uptime: 67d 23h 59m 33s [07:42] wow :) [07:42] that's peanuts [07:43] irssi is on as long as the server is [07:43] and the server is in a server hotel in Espoo with UPS's, carbon dioxide extinguishing etc. [07:44] /me huggles ssh, screen and irssi [07:44] haha [07:46] every hardcore irc user should give irssi a shot [07:46] I just switched to xchat from konv [07:47] it's magnificent on it's own, but running on a server connectable with ssh, inside screen that keeps it on all the time... [07:47] <3 [07:47] * jussi01 huggles quassel [07:47] using the python script chanserv.py to do stuff; a kick is just a kick right? not a ban, i.e. users can then rejoin? [07:49] Myrtti: you forgot is... [07:49] !no vista is ~= s/the the/the/ [07:49] I'll remember that Myrtti [07:49] thanks jussi01 [07:50] :) [07:50] !vista [07:50] vista is ~= s/the the/the/ [07:50] hrm [07:50] danghhhh [07:50] goddammit [07:50] *cry* [07:50] /me fixes [07:51] !no vista is Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:51] I'll remember that Myrtti [07:52] !vista [07:52] vista is Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:52] GGGGGRRRAAA [07:52] !no vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:52] I'll remember that Myrtti [07:52] !vista [07:52] vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:52] /me takes a few steps back [07:53] convered [07:53] !Vista [07:53] vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:53] !-Vista [07:53] vista aliases: windowsvista - added by Seveas on 2007-01-30 21:00:06 [07:54] !no Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows [07:54] I'll remember that Myrtti [07:55] having fun Myrtti? [07:56] jussi01: not exactly, as there's something broken [07:57] Myrtti: what do you want it to say? [07:57] it now says what it should [07:57] ok [07:57] except for the spelling error convered :) [07:58] but the replacement and the thing worked just few days ago [07:58] *shrug* [07:58] Myrtti: only works after a !no [07:59] oh [07:59] I'll get me coffee [07:59] :) [07:59] zcz in ubuntu [07:59] spamming [07:59] bad [08:00] bahaha [08:00] heh [08:01] he can rejoin though correct? absent a ban? [08:01] thanks [08:02] yes, but not anymore. [08:02] apparently so :) [08:02] [10:02] Myr††i [08:02] [10:02] *** zCz [n=~zCz@88.227.78.135] [08:02] [10:02] *** ircname : øne †urk Agains† †he WørLd ! ! ! [08:02] [10:02] yøu †røJan [08:02] [10:02] I wiLL send [08:02] [10:02] AScûg¢SAcÛÐASc¢sa [08:03] he's asking for a k-train [08:05] * jussi01 sighs [08:05] anyone else got that? [08:10] not I === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [08:17] In ubottu, ikonia said: !no officialdocs is "Before doing anythin you don't know about in ubuntu check the official ubuntu document reposority and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the ubuntu community for the ubuntu OS, This will give you a tried and tested and most importantly, SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward [08:18] s/anythin/anything [08:18] tried, tested and most importantly [08:18] better [08:19] perhaps also eliminate 'about in' [08:20] yes, thats bad english [08:20] and repository :) [08:22] community for Ubuntu. This will give you atried, tested and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward [08:22] oops [08:23] !no officialdocs is "Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward [08:23] In #ubuntu-ops, ikonia said: !no officialdocs is "Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly SUPPORTED way to resolve your issue and move forward [08:24] nice one bazhang [08:24] much better [08:24] thanks ikonia :) [08:25] !officialdocs [08:25] Factoid officialdocs not found [08:26] !officialdocs is officialdocs is Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward. [08:26] Myrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:26] Myrtti: only after a no... add it first with out the [08:26] DAMNIT [08:27] Myrtti: may I? [08:27] !officialdocs [08:27] officialdocs is Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward. [08:27] *colabwurp* [08:27] sure, go ahead ;-) [08:28] !no, officialdocs is Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward. [08:28] I'll remember that jussi01 [08:28] !officialdocs [08:28] Before doing anything you don't know about, check the official Ubuntu document repository and wiki pages at https://help.ubuntu.com These guides are created by the Ubuntu community for Ubuntu. This will give you a tried, test and most importantly *SUPPORTED* way to resolve your issue and move forward. [08:28] how sdoes that look? [08:28] nice :) [08:29] now where was I [08:29] thats good for me [08:29] thank you [08:45] * elkbuntu sighs at piero trolling -offtopic with the vista factoid *again* [08:46] what is the problem with !visa factoid, I thought it was quite good now ? [08:47] there was double the [08:47] is that troll worthy ? [08:48] which is why I tried s/the the/the/ [08:48] it looked ok when we put it in, did ubotu bork ? [08:48] probably not [08:48] just something we missed [08:49] ikonia, yes... but the whole "1. join, 2. ask if there's ops or mods around, 3. !vista" thing is getting old [08:49] elkbuntu: no no, I understand that, but the content of it now is not worth trolling [08:49] eg: there is no argument [08:50] it's polite, factual, helpful [08:50] eg: !vista.....errr errrr, oh its good [08:50] yes, but he does it because it gets reactions from the mere mention of 'vista' in a linux channel [08:50] ahhhhhha [08:50] yes [08:50] yes, that is a pain "don't mention microsux in a linux channel" etc [08:50] he's using it to stir [08:50] I don't understand why people bash it [08:51] he could do it in a) pm to the bot b) pm to an op he's done business with before c) here [08:51] but no [08:51] he does it in -ot [08:51] Myrtti, he's not after the information at all [08:51] nope [08:51] just trolling [08:51] he's after the reaction [08:51] whats the status of the mediaubuntu repo's are they supported ? [08:52] not sure, you'd have to ask cluey people such a -motu [09:06] ikonia: supported by the Ubuntu team? [09:07] jpatrick: in any aspect [09:07] I was under the impression it was dropped [09:09] Hmm, as I understand only the Medibuntu developers (https://launchpad.net/~medibuntu-maintainers) has rights there [09:09] the exiztens guy is back :) [09:10] bazhang: don't you just love it when they come back for more [09:10] whut where [09:10] main channel [09:10] oh [09:10] jpatrick, :) [09:10] jpatrick: thank you, thats as I understood it also [09:11] ikonia: by the look of their LP announcements, they've prepared packages for Hardy [09:12] yes they have [09:12] I've seen mixed results from people, hence my question [09:12] jpatrick: too many people pointing at it as an easy fix [09:12] -> http://lists.medibuntu.org/pipermail/announce/2008-April/000001.html - they do have interesting highlights [09:13] I like what they are trying to do [09:13] not calling them for it [09:22] heads up Xcell [09:25] ugh [09:25] where? [09:25] #ubuntu [09:25] he might be a different person though [09:26] just noticed the nick [09:26] no its him [09:29] Daviey: do you have some sort of issue with me asking a quesiton about a bot in -uk ? [09:30] Daviey: I'm asking here as I don't want to ask / make an issue in channel [09:32] Daviey: please enlighten me as to what was wrong with asking about the bot ? [09:32] AIUI, bots are allowed in channels as long as the channel owners agree [09:32] I didn't say they didn't [09:32] ughh [09:33] I didn't say they where not [09:33] I've never seen the bot do it, and it was spewing out content from a site I've just had to spend time fixing with someone, so I asked if it was meant to advertise non-ubuntu links as solutions [09:34] ikonia: This is OT for this channel. #ubuntu-irc is the correct place, or pm [09:34] fine, I'll join #ubuntu-irc or a pm, your choice? [09:53] hi. seems I have joined to many channels. can I get that extended? [09:54] Nafallo: you need to speak to a freenode stafer, #freenode might be better [09:54] staffer* [09:55] oh. thought they where here and due to my ubuntu-cloak I would go through here not to bother upstream as much. [09:55] also, I can't join #freenode :-P [09:56] /wc THEN /j #freenode :) [09:56] oh, these noobs :) [09:57] have no channel I want to quit ;-) [09:57] actually. there is one. [10:53] !noob [10:53] Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [11:11] n00b != acronymn [11:15] n00b = statement [11:33] Myrtti/jussi01: for sed like replacement it's =~ not ~= (I know, why?), or you can use [11:34] stdin: thanks! was wondering that [11:35] oh, I had it the other way around then [11:36] I do ~= a lot too, I may even edit the code to allow ~= sometime [11:36] stdin: can you give me an example? [11:36] !test =~ /Failed/Failed!/ [11:36] I'll remember that stdin [11:37] !test [11:37] Failed! [11:37] ahh, thank you very much :) [11:42] and (carrying on conversation from earlier) - noob is allowed dependant on the context [11:45] I still have the ongoing promise that a person giving rtfm as a sole answer is kicked [11:46] it applies atleast on the -fi channels when I visit them [11:46] rtfm is the reason I'm using ubuntu [11:46] and the reason I'm not using debian [12:12] Hobbsee: tonyyarusso: axod is the owner of mibbit, so next time he arrives here, ask him to identify when making requests ;) [12:12] he has been very open to our suggestions in the past [12:13] Ok peoples, we now have functional the intrepid package search :) [12:13] !info waon intrepid [12:13] waon: A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB [12:16] !info waon [12:16] waon: A Wave-to-Notes transcriber. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 84 kB, installed size 240 kB [12:16] jussi01: oh puhLEEZE [12:16] /me larts jussi01 [12:16] Myrtti: I think ~= should work now too [12:16] stdin: cool [12:16] !test ~= /Failed!/Failed/ [12:16] I'll remember that stdin [12:17] :) [12:17] Myrtti: thats my package, of course Im going to use that one :P [12:17] jussi01: you did intrepid before you made gutsy the default. [12:17] -_____- [12:18] huh? [12:18] hardy is the default... [12:18] oh damn [12:18] I'm still living on a pre hardy time zone [12:18] hehe [12:18] I'll get me coffee [12:18] * jussi01 hands Myrttia strong coffe [12:19] I got to run. see you all later [14:07] I've been advised to show up here and apologize for my behavior in #ubuntu [14:07] lucent you have an issue? [14:08] not really, I don't get paid to help out in #ubuntu, I would do it on my own time [14:08] it's fine with me if I don't fit in there [14:08] We're all volunteers there. [14:09] lucent, none get paid [14:09] the way I was ejected from the channel a few minutes ago was unsavvy [14:10] lucent you were not banned; you may rejoin [14:10] why would I return? I was not made aware of what I did wrong [14:10] lucent: #ubuntu is a support channel for the Ubuntu OS [14:11] non support discussion should take place in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere [14:11] so I've been told a dozen times already [14:11] it really says nothing to do with me [14:14] what I've joined here to say, is that it really bothers me a person would be treated this way, especially on the "main" IRC channel resource for Ubuntu [14:15] lucent: don't feel singled out, we ask that all off topic chatters take their topics to #ubuntu-offtopic [14:15] no one addressed the guy who was asking about Ubuntu being slow and crashing, I offered some advice [14:16] I've been asking about P+Q writing because it's something I want my OS to be able to do [14:16] and hard disks might be off topic but I'm only addressing a reply to an existing topic of discussion [14:17] I worked for 9 months in a datacenter and know a thing or two about failure rates of hard disks, so I'm offering a valuable contribution to a discussion in place [14:18] if you think that's worthy of kicking a person out of the channel, while the oper responsible is talking about unlocking iPhones and other dubious matters? [14:18] it doesn't add up. [14:19] lucent that was directly related to getting a smartphone to work with ubuntu; another op said you were offtopic to which you responded to him 'you got a problem'? [14:19] yeah [14:19] well did he? [14:19] I don't know who's reading into this too much [14:19] I'm asking what am I doing wrong [14:20] someone tells me to "calm down" [14:20] I wasn't upset then, I was very confused why I'm being bot'ed with the rules [14:23] because you were seen to be off topic [14:23] lucent: the durability of seagate hard drives is offtopic, it's not a support issue. I asked that you move this to #ubuntu-offtopic. For some reason, you are taking this as a personal attack. It's not. We're just trying to make sure that people get help with ubuntu issues in #ubuntu [14:23] that's fine, I wish I'd known that it was my remark about seagate drives before I was kicked from the channel [14:24] which is a topic of discussion from someone else [14:24] but whatever [14:24] I got singled out. [14:24] sometimes we miss things, that doesn't mean that you weren't offtopic [14:24] lucent it was the abuse you offered subsequent to that [14:24] abuse? [14:26] "what the hell?" "jrib: got a problem?" seems more aggressive than "What exactly was offtopic?". Maybe you didn't mean it to be aggressive, but that's how it seems [14:26] I don't know, you take that personally? It's just text on a screen to me [14:27] Nope, I don't take it personally [14:27] I should hope not, it was only intended as stated. [14:28] which can be interpreted differently than what you intended. [14:28] indeed [14:30] I'm not nice to people who spam me, okay? Sorry your being offended. [14:31] best to ask for clarification then to immediately move to confrontation lucent [14:31] lucent: we ask that everyone in the very busy channel #ubuntu tries to stay on topic - ubuntu support. I hope we can move on? [14:31] Its bad etiquette otherwise. [14:31] yeah I don't consider this worth the time it's taking [14:32] agreed [14:32] alrighty [14:32] too hasty? [14:32] odd that someone is offended by getting text from ubotu, but then says "its no big deal it's just text to me" [14:33] unsolicited text, probably [14:34] Some people dont like listening to bots. [14:34] ubottu is getting better [14:34] uh what? [14:34] he's evolving [14:34]