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xubuntuserscreens and graphics crashes. I'll reboot and try again00:15
OverandI changed themes, and this new one's 'notification' is apparently making the 'taskbark' thing bold and blinking the border02:59
Overand...taskbar?02:59
OverandRegardless, I'd like to try to ake it more 'obvious' ala the whole thing flashing, etc.  Suggestions?02:59
OverandPanel notification i guess03:04
OverandLike... with MurinaStormCloud, pidgin blinks black/white - but with Xfce-cadium, it's like the border blinks.03:19
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Brent^I have a computer that has 128 MB of RAM and it keeps freezing trying to install xubuntu desktop... any way around this?04:33
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dthackerBrent^: regular CD or alternate install CD?04:49
Brent^BOTH04:51
Brent^I was gonna give it a try because XP didnt like to work anymore04:51
Brent^it would never work though because that computers hard drive is almost dead04:52
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TeslaTonyKDE has kdesudo, Gnome has gksudo...what's the Xfce version for root in graphical?05:48
b3nwhi, how does one disable the alt+click = drag window around in xfce4 ?06:00
ere4siTeslaTony: xfce4 uses gtk so it is gksudo or gksu06:28
TeslaTonyere4si: Thanks06:40
ere4sinp06:40
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Keulehi there! how many space does xfce need for the installation into a gnome environment?07:38
ere4si!info xubuntu-desktop07:39
ubottuxubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.66 (hardy), package size 14 kB, installed size 40 kB07:39
ere4siKeule: ^^07:39
Keuleere4si: whats up?07:39
ablomen40kb.. that doesnt seem right07:40
Keulei want to try xfce...07:40
ere4siKeule: try xubuntu-desktop it will work better07:40
ere4si!info xfce07:40
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ubottuPackage xfce does not exist in hardy07:40
ere4si!info xfce407:41
ubottuxfce4: Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.4.2 (hardy), package size 5 kB, installed size 48 kB07:41
Keuleere4si: okok - but i think its not the whole environment... isnt it?07:41
ere4siKeule: yes07:41
ere4siit is07:42
Keuleok ere4si 190MB for the whole thing07:43
ere4siKeule: 40mb for xubuntu-desktop that has xfce4 or 48mb for xfce4 on its' own07:44
Keulexubuntu has a lot of stuff wich is connectet.. and i dont know what is neccessary..07:45
ere4siKeule: that's why installing xubuntu-desktop is the go - you using ubuntu?07:45
Keuleere4si: ill try the live cd... i think thats better07:45
Keuleyepp gnome environment07:46
ere4siKeule: it's your choice - have fun :)07:46
Keule:) :P thx i have a working system - so.... i dont want to kick it ere4si ... but i have my probs with gnome... and i dont like kde - so... i dont know... but never the less ... thx for your help07:47
ere4siKeule: that's ok - the xubuntu-desktop package is designed to fit in with ubuntu - it will work fine07:48
Keuleere4si: thanx - i will keep it in mind :)07:49
ere4si:)07:49
fiya_werkindepending on what you don't like about gnome, xubuntu may put you off at first, its customized to look just like it07:58
fiya_werkinI always get a jolt at first07:58
Keulefiya_werkin: :)08:00
ere4sifiya_werkin: they both use gtk so thet'll never look too diff08:00
fiya_werkini mean the panels, mostly08:00
Keuleits not the look - its the speed and some things like nautilus i dont really like08:00
Keulei hope xfce is faster08:01
fiya_werkinthink it depends on your machine really08:01
fiya_werkini dont notice much of a difference between all 308:01
Keulehmm ok i'll try08:01
ere4sion any machine xubuntu "should" be faster08:01
fiya_werkinbut with newer machines, 'faster' can be relatively a small matter when even gnome flies08:02
Keulei thougt it that xfce is faster...08:02
fiya_werkingenerally speaking it is08:02
alado2has anybody here been able to get voipstunt/voipbuster etc. to work with ubuntu?08:37
WildChild7alado2: what is voipstunt/voipbuster ?08:44
WildChild7is this something like IP telephone or similar08:45
alado2yep, for free08:45
WildChild7alado2: we are going to get IP telephony now..08:45
WildChild7and ur saying that every computer can have a telephone or microphone ?08:45
WildChild7and I can call through computer to any other IP telephone for free ?08:46
alado2no, to landlines, and of course ip telephones08:46
WildChild7alado2: I mean, I put my headset on my head and I can call my friend which has IP telephony, but not computer. Only IP telephony... ?08:48
alado2WildChild7: sure08:49
WildChild7sexy08:49
WildChild7alado2: what program do u use ?08:49
WildChild7skype ?08:49
alado2sure that woks, isn't free to call though, as i said, voipstunt is08:49
WildChild7voipstunt is open source ?08:50
alado2nope, but u can useopensource apps with the voipstunt settings, and thats what im asking about08:50
WildChild7alado2: ohh08:51
WildChild7if u find anything helpful share with us :)08:51
TeslaTonyBefore I installed xubuntu-desktop, to get to my gui (from tty1, etc), I'd hit ctrl+alt+f7. Now I have to hit ctrl+alt+f9. Are the two related, and should I be concerned?08:56
alado2WildChild7: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450394&page=308:58
alado2the first post there works08:58
WildChild7thanx alado209:02
ochosihi, i have a problem with my ipw3945 wireless card suddenly not being detected anymore (says there is no device eth1)11:01
ochosistill, lspci correctly lists my wifi card11:01
ablomenochosi, shouldnt it show up as wlan0 and wmaster0?11:01
ochosiablomen, up to now it always has been eth111:02
ochosiablomen: also, wlan0 doesn't exist11:02
ochosiablomen: (and wmaster0)11:02
ablomenok11:02
ablomenwell i cant help ya, no wifi experience11:02
ochosik11:03
ochosithx anyway11:03
ochosianyone else?11:05
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daurnimatormmm12:11
daurnimatorI can't use my keyboard and my mouse at the same time12:11
daurnimatorany idea why?12:11
ere4sidaurnimator: are they bluetooth?12:12
daurnimatorno12:13
ere4sidaurnimator: sorry - no idea then :)12:13
ere4siunless it's hardware based12:14
daurnimatorna12:16
daurnimatorits only in linux12:16
daurnimatorand only regular keys12:16
daurnimatornot ctrl, shift etc12:17
daurnimatordefinently some setting somewhere no one wants12:17
daurnimatorfixed12:20
daurnimatorhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-417089.html12:20
ere4sidaurnimator: well done - google?12:21
daurnimatoryeah12:21
ere4si+1 google hehe12:22
maiG6etab002hello12:29
maiG6etab002when I read the webpage http://www.xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release there is some old? text at the section "PulseAudio" ....12:30
ere4sihi12:30
maiG6etab002it says "The release candidate comes preinstalled with the  PulseAudio sound server, ..." only the the RC or allso the final 8.04 ?12:31
ere4simaiG6etab002: having issues with firefox and another app not playing audio at the same time?12:31
ere4simaiG6etab002: the final too12:32
maiG6etab002oh... I havne't downloaded yet :-)12:32
maiG6etab002I just read up a little while downloading the iso.12:32
ere4simaiG6etab002: firefox is working on the issue I mentioned12:32
maiG6etab002aha. ok12:32
ere4sithe final has pulse audio12:33
maiG6etab002I guess there will be an update for firefox soon then.12:33
ere4simaiG6etab002: the final for ff3 should be this month12:34
maiG6etab002some should update the webpage there.. I see that it says "The release candidate includes...." on the kernel section too, and a whole section about bugs in the RC (that probably are fixed now)12:35
maiG6etab002aha12:35
maiG6etab002the sound issue, is that in both ff2 and ff3 ?12:36
ere4simaiG6etab002: just ff3 from what I've heard12:36
maiG6etab002ok.12:37
maiG6etab002about firefox, are there any problems or special things I have to do if I want to have both installed? in the next 10 years or so I will probably want to check with both when I do pages. at least.12:39
fiyawerxmaiG6etab002, i have 2 and 3 installed fine13:04
fiyawerxmaiG6etab002, http://browsershots.org/13:04
fiyawerxall you need for testing pages :)13:04
maiG6etab002ok13:06
mcisbackukHi can someone help with my 8.04 install please? It appears to have hung at "storing language", I've run tail -f /var/log/syslog to check what its doing, but all I got is "loalechooser: Generating locales...            localechooser:  en_GB.UTF-8..." any idea guys??13:14
mcisbackukIts running on a Pentium I 233 with 64 MB RAM, so does anyone have any rough idea how long it will take, unless obviously it HAS hung totally...any help appreciated thanks :)13:16
gNewPowerHi, I am having a weird problem.  I switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu (i.e. I am now using XFCE sessions).  Everything works to perfection except that each time I turn to computer on I need to go to Xfce->Settings->Setting Manager and choose "allow xfce to manage my desktop" .  If I do not do this I look my desktop background.  How can I fix this?!  Thanks.13:18
suriromcisbackuk: you dont meet min. sys. reqs. for graphical install13:21
mcisbackuksuriro: I'm using the alternate install....13:22
suriromcisbackuk: I suggest you a minimal install, then pull packages via apt-get. But you still dont meet min reqs of xubuntu desktop http://www.xubuntu.org/get13:27
mcisbackuksuriro: How do I do a minimal install?13:27
maiG6etab00264MB should be enough for the alternate cd, even if the graphic card is stealing say 8Mb of that, right?13:28
surirohttp://www.xubuntu.org/get <-- read13:28
mcisbackuksuriro: If you mean the alternate CD install, thats what I'm using13:29
suriroSo you dont care about this statement: "Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB RAM"13:30
mcisbackuk:| where the hell was that! i must have missed it.........13:31
maiG6etab002hehe.. yeah when you read it, it is kinda funny. sort of: "you can install this (with the alternate cd) with only 64MB ram, but you can't run it if you have less then 192. (the livecd can be run with 128Mb though)"13:38
maiG6etab002ok "Xubuntu can run with 192 MB RAM" doesn't really say that it is impossible to run with less than 192 but, it is easy to read it like that :)13:40
soroushwhich packages should i install to have an xfce desktop?13:57
soroushin ubuntu for sure13:58
jimmy51vinskyxubuntu-desktop14:04
jimmy51vinskysoroush: xubuntu-desktop14:04
jimmy51vinskyso, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop14:06
* soroush is installing xubuntu-desktop14:15
tunnelblickwhat does "iwconfig"?14:30
tunnelblickforget it14:30
tunnelblick^^14:30
fiyawerxwireless14:30
tunnelblicki was reading an old post...14:30
tunnelblick*sigh*14:30
abdorez1hi14:56
abdorez1can you help me?14:56
abdorez1i cant install driver vga card14:56
abdorez1soroush: salam14:57
abdorez1soroush: hi14:57
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roymustang_hello!!!17:15
zoredache!hi17:15
ubottuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!17:15
roymustang_wiiii i've configured my keyboard!!!17:20
roymustang_quiestion: can i use apt-get to install Opera Browser?17:20
zoredacheif you add a non-default repository I believe so17:21
zoredache!opera | roymustang_17:21
ubotturoymustang_: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser17:21
roymustang_thanks! zoredache17:22
roymustang_!mp318:05
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:05
jimmy51vinskywhen i try to run vnc config, i get an error saying "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"18:06
jimmy51vinskyapt-file doesn't show that file in any package.... what should i do?18:07
Ultraputzis there anything i should know about enabled extended attributes on xu/hardy with the encrypted disc feature>?19:41
zoredacheare you talking about the filesystem extended attributes?19:43
zoredacheit doesn't seem like filesystem level stuff would have anything to do with dm-crypt19:43
Ultraputzi wasn't sure -- i was hoping to put beagle to work w/o sqlite19:46
Ultraputzsez turn on extended attributes to do that, just wondered if there were any caveats.19:46
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apgob> how come when i do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras i get: "Couldn't find package xubuntu-restricted-extras?20:34
apgobi cant install xchat etc either it says couldnt find package20:34
apgobanyone here20:40
zoredacheapgob: yes, it is just a very quiet channel20:45
zoredacheanyway do you have the universe/multiverse repositories enabled?20:45
apgobzoredache i m not sure i dont think so here is my sources list:20:47
apgobhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1059420:47
apgobzoredache u there20:57
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zoredacheI am only half here21:07
WildChild7hello there21:09
WildChild7I've installed xubuntu on my box21:09
WildChild7where can I change resolution ?21:09
zoredacheapgob: this is what I have - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10600/ - make sure you run 'sudo apt-get update' after you make changes to the sources.list21:09
zoredacheWildChild7: maybe try running gksu displayconfig-gtk21:10
WildChild7hm21:13
WildChild7strange21:13
WildChild7I have 17" monitor but there is no option for 1024*768 resolution21:13
kdtcan anyone tell me what the equivelent of "sessions" in ubuntu is in xubuntu? I want to run a program at startup21:14
TheSheepWildChild7: maybe it's autodetected bad, try setting the refresh rates manually21:14
apgob~[ zoredache ]~ Can't open file to write21:14
TheSheepkdt: settings->setting manager->autostarted apps21:14
kdt:-D thanks thesheep, been looking all over21:15
WildChild7TheSheep: and buy manually u mean with xorg.conf ?21:15
TheSheepWildChild7: yes, you can also use the wizard with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'21:15
TheSheepWildChild7: also, make sure you use the right driver for your card, not the 'vesa' fallback one21:16
WildChild7TheSheep: I have sis card integrated21:16
WildChild7some old graphic card21:16
WildChild7oh21:19
WildChild7I'm trying to watch videos on youtube21:19
WildChild7and it points me to adobe flash player and there I can choose .tar .yum .rpm21:19
WildChild7what should I donwload ?21:20
zoredacheyou probably should install the flash player from the repository21:20
WildChild7zoredache: what's the package name ?21:20
WildChild7so I won't have to update it manually21:21
zoredacheflashplugin-nonfree or if you want to get all the common non-free stuff get  xubuntu-restricted-extras21:21
TheSheepflahplayer-nonfree21:21
TheSheepflashplayer-nonfree21:21
TheSheepah21:21
TheSheepsorry21:21
WildChild7hm21:22
WildChild7interesting21:22
WildChild7I have no driver selected for my sis card21:22
WildChild7so can I choose sis from the list?21:22
WildChild7Is there a package for skype for xubuntu ?21:27
WildChild7for 8.0421:27
TheSheepWildChild7: probably in the partners repository21:29
WildChild7TheSheep: Ok. I'll try21:30
WildChild7don't know why update is taking so long21:30
crimsunbecause the main archive is broken.21:30
crimsuntry using another mirror in your country code21:30
crimsun(unless you're in the USA, in which case you'll want to try gb.archive.ubuntu.com)21:31
WildChild7crimsun: I'm in slovenia, but server is located in GB21:31
Myrtti!repomirror21:31
ubottuGo to "System",  "Administration", and "Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the fastest mirror for you automatically.21:31
WildChild7erm..21:31
WildChild7can't see any system :D21:31
Myrttithat's for gnome21:31
WildChild7yep21:32
Myrttibut applications - system - software sources21:32
WildChild7thanx21:37
WildChild7oh is there any music program installed by default in xubuntu ?21:37
WildChild7for listening the music ?21:37
TheSheepWildChild7: no, just totem21:39
TheSheepWildChild7: it will play audio files, although technically it's a movie player21:39
TheSheepWildChild7: there is a large number of audio players available though21:40
WildChild7TheSheep: What is the leightest for xfc ?21:41
WildChild7TheSheep: leightweight*21:41
TheSheepWildChild7: if you liked the classic winamp, then you will enjoy audacious21:41
WildChild7TheSheep: I'm set up ing xubuntu for my sister :)21:42
WildChild7I need to make it as automaticaly as I can21:42
TheSheepWildChild7: don't underestimate her leet skillz ;)21:43
WildChild7shee needs skype, youtube, audacious, of caurse writer and codecs for movies, and transmission for torrents21:43
WildChild7TheSheep: yea well.. I'll try but sis graphic card is making some problems..21:44
WildChild7arh no skype package name in partner repository21:50
ere4siI think it is in medibuntu21:50
ere4si!medibuntu21:51
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org21:51
WildChild7ere4si: let me check so I can comment back partners repos yes ?21:51
ere4sik21:52
WildChild7works21:57
WildChild7now..21:57
WildChild7How can I configure my sis graphic card so there will be actual driver for it :D21:57
ere4siWildChild7: :)21:57
ere4siWildChild7: which sis card? - there isn't great support for sis21:58
WildChild7ere4si: at lest so much support that sister can watch movies and youtube flash movies21:59
WildChild72d would be great :D21:59
WildChild7ere4si: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 21)22:00
WildChild7ere4si: don't know if it's 630 ir 73022:00
WildChild7ir==or22:00
ere4siWildChild7: I can do that with my sis card - that should be supported ok22:00
WildChild7ere4si: when I run gksu displayconfig-gtk tehre is no driver enabled for my card, But it says that my card is sis 63022:01
ere4siWildChild7: the way they do the graphics cards in hardy has changed - I don't know how to work it yet - maybe someone else can chime in22:02
TheSheepere4si: what changed?22:04
ere4siTheSheep: used to be able to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but now that doesn't give an option for the vid card22:05
WildChild7let me try smth22:07
WildChild7omg22:12
TheSheepere4si: it doesn't? what about with -p0 ?22:13
WildChild7I choose manually dirver by model and now I'm running in 640x300 o_O22:13
thegreyspotHow can I have ubuntu items in xubuntu?22:13
thegreyspot(menu Items) like networkmanager22:14
ere4siTheSheep: haven't tried it with that - if it needs that somethings changed then...?22:14
thegreyspot?22:16
TheSheepthegreyspot: isn't it displayed in the system menu?22:18
WildChild7ere4si: any clue of how can I get my resolution to 1024x76822:19
thegreyspotno it is. But all the menu items like networkmagaer, or shutdown. is there.22:19
WildChild7looks like sis drivers are even more broken that default one22:19
thegreyspotI think they are called items?22:20
ere4siWildChild7: try editing the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and manually adding the resolutions there - I haven't had much luck with the way the graphics are now...22:21
WildChild7ere4si: well a Älittle problem ther. By default in xorg.conf there is no resolutions what's so ever :S22:23
WildChild7where is normally put 1024*76822:23
TheSheepWildChild7: it's normally detected automatically based on your graphics cards, amunt of memory on it and your monitor22:24
thegreyspotAny ideas?22:24
ere4siWildChild7: see why I have probs... - don't know how it works anymore - sorry22:25
WildChild7ere4si: that's strange :S22:27
WildChild7TheSheep: how can I check how much ram has graphic card ?22:27
ere4siWildChild7: xorg.conf has always shown resolutions but now it mostly doesn't22:27
TheSheepWildChild7: you can examine the /var/log/xorg.0.log to see the whole detecting process22:29
WildChild7TheSheep: it is 64MB of ram... I think that's for more than just 1024*768...22:29
WildChild7http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiS_630/73022:30
WildChild7TheSheep: what's the name of editor default in xubuntu for txt22:30
chronitismousepad22:31
WildChild7TheSheep: hm I've looked into it but it's empty22:31
TheSheepWildChild7: maybe I got the file name wrong22:32
TheSheepXorg.0.log22:33
TheSheepwith capital X22:33
WildChild7damn it. This graphic card has even 3d support!22:33
WildChild7TheSheep: lemme check22:33
WildChild7TheSheep: what am I looking for exactly. http://pastebin.ca/1009788  this is the Xorg.0.log22:35
TheSheeplook at around line 36022:37
TheSheepit's not using these modes because it thinks your monitor cannot support it22:37
apgobhey when i apt install something it says "Waiting for headers" and takes ages befoer it continues why is it so slow?22:37
TheSheepWildChild7: set the hsync and vrefresh in your monitor section of xorg.conf to values apropraite for your monitor screen22:38
ere4siapgob: it is making the internet connection - with a new release and updates it will be slow for a while :) - he left...22:40
DaftpunkHi there22:41
ere4sihi22:41
thegreyspotCan some help me get items for the Menu bar on top. ones like in ubuntu. Networkmanager sound Shutdown etc...22:42
Daftpunkit's very quiet here22:43
ere4sithegreyspot: right click the panel and select add22:43
DaftpunkIs there anybody here who is not a newbie looking for help? :D22:43
groundzer0yes me22:44
thegreyspotYa and whats there? NOTHING!22:44
Daftpunklol j/k22:44
groundzer0After this operation, 20.3MB of additional disk space will be used.22:44
groundzer0Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y22:44
groundzer00% [Waiting for headers]22:44
Daftpunkcause I am22:44
groundzer0takes a long time after that -- Why?22:44
thegreyspotAre you telling me that if i want to shutdown my computer I have to log out first?22:44
groundzer0that's for anything i try to do22:44
DaftpunkJust installed xubuntu and I am a bit lost for the mo22:44
thegreyspotIf i want to find out my IP address I have to got to network tools in system?22:44
ere4sithegreyspot: you get nothing - a list should pop up starting with "launcher"22:44
thegreyspotYa but there only about 10 items with nothing I want. Ubuntu has better one right? or am I wrong?22:45
DaftpunkDoes anybody know if there is Zend studio for linux?22:45
ere4sigroundzer0: it will be like that - everyones updating atm22:45
WildChild7TheSheep: can u paste your xorg.conf.. don't know the syntax of setting hsync22:45
groundzer0groundzer0, what do you mean, when will it be 'normal'22:46
WildChild7or anyone else if it has in xorg.conf hsync and vrefresh22:46
groundzer0ere4si, when will it begin to calm down22:46
ere4sigroundzer0: I have no idea - soon is the best I could offer22:47
WildChild7nevermind I found one22:47
ere4sigroundzer0: I'm updating atm with d/load at 15kb/s...22:47
groundzer0ere4si,  what u updating22:48
thegreyspotSome one once told me that I could install ubuntu items. Is that true?22:48
ere4sithegreyspot: you can search for plugins in synaptic22:48
ere4sigroundzer0: hardy - some updates have come out recently22:49
groundzer0ere4si,  can you be more specific, which ones22:49
ere4sigroundzer0: nope - there were 115 of them - I haven't updated for a while22:50
TheSheepthegreyspot: you mean the panel applets?22:50
groundzer0ere4si, wow i just got about 25.22:50
thegreyspotYes thats right the sheep22:50
ere4sigroundzer0: I haven't been using my hardy box alot lately22:50
groundzer0ere4si,  whats ur other box22:50
thegreyspotTheSheep:I believe so...22:51
TheSheepthegreyspot: you need to install them, then you can insert them in your xfce panle by using the xfce4-xfapplet-plugin22:51
groundzer0ere4si, i'm updating right now @ 25kb/sec :(:(:(22:51
ere4sigroundzer0: I have a "testing" box with hardy - the others run dapper server with fluxbox and apps22:51
TheSheep(you need to install that too)22:51
groundzer0ere4si,  nice -- anyways i'll be going now. See ya around.22:52
ere4sigroundzer0: bye22:52
thegreyspotOk TheSheep and ere4si I will do so22:52
thegreyspotbye-bye22:52
ere4sithegreyspot: bye and good luck22:54
maiG6etab002hello/good evening23:03
maiG6etab002what is the little small white ring that is to the right of the icon in the titlebar of windows?23:03
WildChild7does the tube size means: inches ? like 17"23:04
DaftpunkmaiG6etab002 lol I would like to know that as well23:05
ere4siWildChild7: I would think it would23:05
maiG6etab002I assume that the window will not get circular when I press it :-O23:05
maiG6etab002:-)23:05
ere4simaiG6etab002: if you click it it will put the window on all workspaces23:06
ere4sitry it :)23:06
maiG6etab002aha! ok23:06
Daftpunkalright23:06
Daftpunklookin good23:06
maiG6etab002(no I haven't finishing downloading of the iso yet, I'm still just looking at screenshots)23:07
Daftpunkere4si I downloaded  mozilla sunbird but there was just a folder23:07
WildChild7I only know about my monitor, that it's 17" and it writes on it: ADI microscan. So how can I get info about hsync and vrefresh if on this page: http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitors/adi/  says that my monitor woold be ADI microscan something.23:07
DaftpunkI cant run anything, how can I install it.23:08
ere4siDaftpunk: I don't know about sunbird sorry - what is it?23:08
Daftpunkere4si calendar and organizer from mozilla23:09
sjefen6Hi. I am installing Wine to try and run games on it, but I am unable to get it to create the .wine directory structure in my home folder. What am I doing wrong?23:09
maiG6etab002WildChild7: normally there is more info on the back of the monitor too... what model etc, if the software can't find out by asking it.....23:09
Daftpunksjefen6 I especially installed xubuntu to run away from games, and youre telling me you can play on this system :D?23:10
maiG6etab002yeees.23:10
sjefen6hehe, yes :P23:10
ere4sisjefen6: for wine help you might need to ask in #winehq23:11
sjefen6https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft23:11
sjefen6oki, thanks ;)23:11
ere4sinp23:11
maiG6etab002Daftpunk: there goes all the productivity you dreamt about, eh ? ;-)23:11
Daftpunklol23:11
DaftpunkWOW on linux23:11
Daftpunkso the world has come to an end after all23:12
ere4siDaftpunk: is there a readme in the sunbird folder?23:12
maiG6etab002if you start playing wow, you quickly get dependent on it you know. just like other drugs :-)23:12
Daftpunkyeah but it just says to go to their web site where i downloaded it23:13
Daftpunkthere is sunbird-bin23:13
ere4siDaftpunk: got a link?23:13
DaftpunkFor information about installing, running and configuring Sunbird23:13
Daftpunkincluding a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,23:13
Daftpunkrefer to: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/23:13
Daftpunkall this was in the readme23:14
maiG6etab002about wow... isn't it possible to play wow for free just a day or so (without saving your person etc) ?23:14
DaftpunkmaiG6etab002 I know the games are after me23:14
maiG6etab002:-D23:14
DaftpunkmaiG6etab002 the only solution will be probably to downgrade my computer23:15
DaftpunkmaiG6etab002 so I cant play it.23:15
ere4siDaftpunk: did you do this? - Build Sunbird23:16
ere4si   1.23:16
ere4si      Add the following line to your .mozconfig23:16
ere4si      . $topsrcdir/calendar/sunbird/config/mozconfig23:16
ere4si   2. Build as per the instructions on the Mozilla build pages.23:16
ere4si   3.23:16
ere4si      Once that's done you can run Sunbird by executing23:16
ere4si      dist/bin/sunbird23:16
zoredache!pastebin23:16
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:16
Daftpunkoh ok23:17
DaftpunkI will try it23:17
maiG6etab002Daftpunk: hehehe... I did had kinda drug-relation to SimCity back then.... you know when we used 386's with 320x200 ega.... you can't escape games by downgrading......23:17
ere4siDaftpunk: from this page - http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/build.html23:18
maiG6etab002and there is allways mud....23:18
Daftpunkthanks ere4si23:18
ere4sik23:18
DaftpunkIs open office good app?23:19
DaftpunkIam just installing it23:19
zoredacheit is useful for some things23:19
zoredacheI wouldn't use it as a programming editor though...23:19
Daftpunkhow is it compared to MS office?23:19
maiG6etab002nooohh... it is a huge memory and disk eating monster.23:20
Daftpunkzoredache and what do you use for programming editor? I am looking for something like Zend studio23:20
maiG6etab002Daftpunk: that depends of wich version of ms office you compare with. Word2.0 was nice....23:20
Daftpunklol23:21
zoredacheDaftpunk: it is somewhat kinda useful as an ms office replacement... Of course I hate MS office so something that is similar doesn't impress me23:21
zoredacheDaftpunk: scite23:21
zoredacheor vi/gvim23:21
Daftpunkwill check them23:21
Daftpunkthanks23:21
Daftpunkzoredache but its usefull when you need to write something23:22
zoredacheif you don't need a heavily formated document abiword is usually good enough if you need to write something23:23
DaftpunkI am installing soft for couple of hours now. How can I check drive space?23:23
zoredacheWhen I have a complex document I like to go to html.  Other people like things like latex23:23
DaftpunkDoes any1 know please?23:23
maiG6etab002how come the text editor in xubuntu is called *mouse*-pad?23:23
zoredacheDaftpunk: 'du' a terminal23:24
ere4siDaftpunk: I use   df -h23:24
zoredachemaiG6etab002: the Xubuntu mascot is a rat isn't it?23:24
maiG6etab002oh!23:24
zoredacheor xfce mascot rather23:24
maiG6etab002I should have thought of that23:24
Daftpunklovely thanks23:25
Daftpunkis there like a help in terminal with the list of all commands?23:25
DaftpunkmaiG6etab002 and what is the difference between ubuntu a xubuntu?23:26
zoredache!cli | Daftpunk23:26
ubottuDaftpunk: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:26
Daftpunkok thanks23:26
zoredacheDaftpunk: I also really like learning_the_shell.php23:26
maiG6etab002hmm... if you go to https://launchpad.net/fluxbuntu and click [List all packages] shouldn't it list everything that is installed when you install xubuntu?   - the page is empty :-/23:27
zoredachebut the short answer is no.  There is single reference or no help that will list everything you can do at the command line.23:27
maiG6etab002oh.. sorry, wrong window23:27
maiG6etab002(but are there a similar page for xubuntu perhaps?)23:28
zoredacheack23:29
maiG6etab002if you ask a true unix person he whould say you can do *everything* at the command line. including painting ;-)23:30
DaftpunkDoes anybody here have an EEE PC?23:33
Daftpunkfrom Asus?23:33
WildChild7maiG6etab002: There is some info. And there is Model No. VD-697 I can't find any adi microscan with that model :S23:36
ere4siWildChild7: lists it here - http://www.tradeloop.com/m/products/product_detail.cfm?cat=109%7C72%7C27623:41

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