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_polto_liblivemedia is ultra out of date on ubuntu :( 00:34
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KyralHow would one go about getting mirror information corrected on Launchpad?02:38
jameshKyral: could you be more specific?02:40
jameshdistribution mirror, branch mirror, vcs import?02:40
KyralSomeone registered Mirror.clarkson.edu (which I am the admin of) and the info is all wrong02:40
Kyralarchive mirror02:40
Kyrali guess02:44
jameshhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror-clarkson-edu02:49
Kyralyah02:49
lifelesselmo: who admins that stuff ?02:49
jameshsalgado is one of the Launchpad devs, so he probably registered it when we migrated the archive mirror management into Launchpad02:49
jameshlifeless: you don't see any "change ownership" links on that page?02:50
lifelesschecking02:54
lifelesschange owner link02:55
lifelessKyral: whats your launchpad account name?02:55
Kyralkyral02:55
lifelessChris Peterson ?02:56
lifelesssorry, Peterman ?02:56
KyralYup!02:56
lifelessdone02:56
Kyralthanks02:56
jameshlifeless: while you're around, could you transfer ownership of https://edge.launchpad.net/psycopg to the psycopg team?03:06
jamesh(it is currently owned by registry admins)03:06
lifelesswe should allow people to do that themselves03:30
lifelessjamesh: done03:31
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bd_long PPA queue today... I really wish those language packs would build on amd64/lpia as well as i386 :|04:02
Amaranthhttps://edge.launchpad.net/~espastai-ubuntu <--offensive name04:28
lifelessmm, do we have a policy on that ?04:43
rlaagerThis is probably obvious, but I can't figure it out. How do you create a team in Launchpad?05:39
jameshrlaager: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam05:41
rlaagerjamesh: Thanks!05:42
rlaagerNext question: How do I request someone with magical Launchpad rights make said team the owner/driver of a Project (which should then make its members see that project as a Related Project on their launchpad page).05:45
poolierlaager: if you're already the owner of the project you can change it yourself05:52
rlaagerpoolie: I'm not the owner. I'm trying to make a team to represent the upstream developers (of which I am one).05:53
pooliecould you ask the owner to change it?05:53
rlaagerIf that's not the Launchpad Way, I'm open to other suggestions.05:53
rlaagerI don't know how to find the owner.05:53
poolierlaager: what project is it?05:54
rlaagerPidgin05:54
pooliebtw no it's not very obvious how to create a group, there's a bug open on that, it annoys me every time :/05:54
poolieAmaranth/lifeless: you can open a quesntion in answers.launchpad.net/launchpad for offensive content05:55
rlaagerSpeaking of which, it seems there is still a Gaim project in Launchpad that should really be merged in or something.05:55
poolierlaager: hm that's kind of a bug too05:56
poolieanyhow it's https://edge.launchpad.net/~tsetsbold05:57
rlaagerWhat the heck? Who is he?05:58
jameshsomeone who hasn't obviously done anything else on LP05:59
lifelessrlaager: whats your launchpad username, and how can I tell you're an upstream dev (before I go and change the owner for you)06:00
poolierlaager: i filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/22760106:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 227601 in launchpad "project owner not publicly visible" [Undecided,New] 06:01
jameshit is visible in a portlet06:02
jameshwhich is collapsed by default06:02
rlaagerlifeless: If you're running Pidgin, Help -> About. If you're not, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/rlaager is somewhat compelling (based on the fact that I actually have tickets assigned to me). If you want to be super hard core about it, we can trade e-mails to rlaager@pidgin.im or I can put something on pidgin.im itself that's not in the wiki or whatever.06:02
* rlaager just realized how hard it is to "prove" something like that easily.06:03
rlaagerlifeless: Oh, and I'm rlaager in Launchpad, too.06:04
lifelesshave you created the team ?06:04
pooliei am running it 06:04
pooliehey there you are!06:04
rlaagerlifeless: Not yet. I was about to and realized I should probably make sure this is the right way to do it first.06:04
pooliethanks, i use it all the time06:04
lifelessrlaager: create the team, let me know the name and I'll update the project owner for you06:04
pooliejamesh: no, it's not06:05
lifelessrlaager: yeah its hard to prove, which is why I didn't ask for proof per se :)06:05
pooliei think it used to be, maybe it was just removed?06:05
jameshpoolie: the "registered by:" bit in the lifecycle portlet is the project owner06:06
jamesh(for better or worse)06:06
poolieaiui the registrant and owner are different06:06
pooliemaybe they are not distinct for projcets06:06
lifelessthey are not06:07
lifelessonly branches06:07
rlaagerlifeless: The team is pidgin-developers.06:07
lifelessrlaager: its all yours06:08
rlaagerlifeless: thanks06:09
lifelessyou are welcome06:09
rlaagerlifeless: Any ideas what we should do about the gaim project in launchpad?06:13
lifelessnot sure if we have project merge code handy; please open a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad06:14
jameshwe've generally just deactivated the duplicate06:21
jameshbut there are bugs, questions and branches associated with each06:21
rlaagerSo if I wanted to start doing "official" upstream packages for Ubuntu (to address user requests for newer packaged versions of Pidgin in between Ubuntu releases), would a Team PPA be an appropriate way to do that?06:54
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jameshrlaager: that would work07:02
jameshrlaager: although official is whatever the upstream says is official.07:02
jameshIf you want to use the PPA infrastructure to do the builds, you're welcome to :)07:02
rlaagerjamesh: Well, sure. It's either that or we do our own repository at pidgin.im. I'd rather not do that if it can be avoided, both for load reasons and because doing a repository is annoying (I have one hackily setup at work.).07:03
jameshthe only thing to keep in mind is that the PPA builds will only cover i386, amd64 and lpia07:03
jameshif you need greater architecture coverage, that will need to come from somewhere else07:04
rlaagerDoes Ubuntu support anything else?07:07
bd_yes, but xen doesn't, and PPA relies on Xen for security isolation07:08
rlaagerbd_: What other archs? sparc?07:09
RAOFrlaager: Sparc and PPC are both supported by Ubuntu but not the PPA system.07:09
jameshrlaager: depends what you mean by support07:09
rlaagerIn the end, I guess I don't really care. Doing a PPA is an easy way to help most people that are interested in such things.07:09
jameshrlaager: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy lists hppa, ia64, powerpc and sparc as unofficial ports07:09
rlaagerIs the PPA download system robust enough to handle a big wad of users (in case this gets popular)?07:10
jameshbut all the official ports are supported by PPA07:10
jameshit should be.07:10
bd_rlaager: theoretically :)07:11
bd_note that you can't sign PPA archives yet07:11
jameshPPAs aren't included in the Ubuntu mirror network though, so downloads go through the Canonical data centre only07:11
rlaagerWell, I guess if it becomes a problem, we pull it or find another solution. The lack of signatures is problematic, though.07:12
jameshif it becomes a problem, we'll need to fix it07:12
jameshsigned archives is coming07:12
rlaagerWell, I won't let that stop me. I likely won't get to this immediately anyway.07:12
jameshhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/12510307:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 125103 in soyuz "ppa archives are not signed" [High,Confirmed] 07:13
rlaageroh sweet, I could build in SILC support and all the people wanting that could use the PPA as well07:14
bd_https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart <-- April 2008 has passed :)07:18
bd_jamesh: and yeah, I'm subscribed to that bug actually :)07:19
dokois there a way to show bug reports targeted for a release, but already closed?09:07
Hobbseeyes, but you need to know the magic number of the milestone.09:10
Hobbseeoh wait, perhaps you don't.09:10
Hobbseedoko: it's an advanced search on b.l.n/ubuntu/+bugs09:11
Hobbseedoko: use the firefox search to find the milestone you want, out of the few hundred that are there.09:11
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* Hobbsee wonders what's up with rothera10:26
\shI wonder why I get bad sigs on release.gpg 10:28
\shwhile mirroring10:28
wgrant\sh: From a.u.c?10:28
wgrantSome mirrors do stupid things.10:28
\shwgrant, yepp...from a.u.c10:29
* \sh doesn't use other servers then a.u.c10:29
\shand everytime it's then when " Archive-Update-in-Progress-leningradskaya.canonical.com " appears10:29
\shand on the other servers...(which are mentioned in RR record of a.u.c.) sometimes it works10:30
popeyuhm, there seems to be an issue with the canonical shop & openid10:38
popeyit's repeatedly prompting for openid10:38
lagayes.10:39
lagavery annoying10:39
lagaand it really shouldn't be prompting for an ID at all if you just want to browse the goods10:39
* wgrant got in fine without an OpenID, and with an OpenID.10:40
Hobbseewgrant: isn't that because you had your own openid?10:40
popeyseems better now10:41
popeybut it was prompting repeatedly for 3 different users10:41
wgrantHobbsee: I used LP OpenID.10:41
wgrantI believe one has no choice with the Canonical store.10:41
gmbIt's probably due to demand. We had a similar problem when the first edition t-shirt went on sale.10:45
mrevellbarry: Hi, do you have time to answer a mailing list question?12:24
barrymrevell: a few minutes.  almost time to start getting the family up :)12:28
mrevellbarry:  Cool :) andrea-bs do you mind explaining the situation to barry?12:30
andrea-bsmrevell: sure :)12:30
andrea-bsbarry: I'd like to change the name of a team and to rename the mailing list address too: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/3162812:31
barryandrea-bs: hi ya!  we can do team renames manually in this case.  i'll need help from our lp admins though, so i'll check with them when they get online later today.  thanks for the question id, we'll use that to track this12:33
barryandrea-bs, mrevell gotta run now, but i'll check back on this channel in a bit in case you have follow ups12:33
andrea-bsbarry, mrevell: thank you for help!12:34
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trondhusohi room. As I don't really know where to ask this question, I decided that IRC probably was kinda like the best place to ask: Is the Icons used in Launchpad Open Source / Freely available? Who's behind them? I thought it was a Tango-thing, but now I am not sure.15:47
intellectronicaRinchen: do you happen to know the answer to trondhuso's question?15:51
Rinchenhi15:52
Rinchentrondhuso, the icons that are currently in the LP code base were designed expressly for LP and therefore are of the same license as LP.15:52
Rinchentrondhuso, https://help.launchpad.net/Legal15:54
Rinchentrondhuso, so, screenshots are currently ok.  Reuse is discouraged. 15:54
trondhusoah. Ok. Some of the icons are nice for other webapplications. Thanks for the information Rinchen. Launchpad is really a nice tool.15:55
Rinchentrondhuso, glad you like it!  We're always fiddling around trying to make it better. We use it too. :-)15:56
trondhusoRinchen: LP looks like something that could be used as an Intranet-solution like SharePoint.15:58
Rinchentrondhuso, interesting that you say that. statik ^^15:59
trondhusoRinchen: It was the first thing that came to mind when I looked more at Launchpad. I am "unfortunately" working at a company that is very MS so I won't be able to get it in here, but .... :)16:00
Rinchentrondhuso, we've tossed around the idea a bit.  Our main focus has been on improvements and some other features that would enable a wider use in the future.16:01
statikhmm, when I've used sharepoint it was as a CMS, like Plone16:01
Rinchenyou mean, LP isn't plone? ;-)16:01
* Rinchen runs.16:01
statikthere are some surface similarities, but it's different enough on the  backend that I don't think it would be a good replacement for sharepoint16:01
statikI've deployed plone before to replace sharepoint, and that works  pretty well16:02
trondhusoI am looking more at the document-handling of SP. I haven't really used SP that much, nor have I used LP that much, but look and feel - very similar. It would be cool if LP - or a fork of it - could become a SP-killer. :)16:10
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Wo0dyhello, does anyone know if there is a channel for the rescuetime project?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/rescuetime-linux-uploader/ #rescuetime channel is empty18:19
fbondHi, would someone mind removing .diff.gz and .dsc from my PPA?  I need to drop pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy.diff.gz, pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy.dsc from forest-alittletooquiet's PPA.18:30
fbond(I cannot use the delete function in launchpad because this version was superseded; it has the wrong series -- hardy, should be gutsy)18:31
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fbond(or will dput --force cause the files to be overwritten?)18:39
bd_fbond: you'll need to use a new version number18:42
bd_if you put another version to hardy you might cause the old one to be dropped, but it'll take a few days18:43
bd_just add a pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy2 or something18:43
fbondbd_: eh, I was hoping to avoid that.  The original version got superseded at the same time it was uploaded, because I accidentally had "hardy" in both packages changelogs...18:45
fbondbd_: But, okay, that seems harmless enough.18:45
fbondbd_: thanks18:49
bd_fbond: you can copy from the gutsy PPA to the hardy one, too, in the future18:50
bd_make sure you wait for it to build, and copy binaries, though18:50
bd_(due to LP#225331)18:50
mptGooooooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!18:51
beunogoood evening?18:54
beunompt, so you've moved  :)18:54
beunoyou're timezone suddenly makes sense18:54
mptbeuno, moved 3 weeks ago18:55
beunompt, enjoy London  :)18:57
beunoyou've got one hell of a view18:58
mptayup19:00
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gnomefreakis there a help page for bzr-svn?19:22
gnomefreaki cant find --help or man page i dont remember seeing one on LP either for bzr-svn19:23
thekornhi, is there some documentation on the new PPA copy feature somewhere? is it possible to copy between diffenrent versions of ubuntu?19:26
thekornare dependencies resolved correctly in this case?19:26
andrea-bsthekorn: I hope this will help you: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart#copy19:28
bd_thekorn: It won't pull in any dependencies, and /make sure to copy binaries/ if it's within the same PPA19:31
bd_as otherwise the binaries will never be built19:31
thekornfirst of all: I'm new to packaging :) but my question is:19:32
thekornwhat about magic like   ${python:Depends}, ${misc:Depends},   in control files?19:32
thekornare they changed when I copy from hardy to gutsy for example?19:32
thekornI think it does not work in bug 22694919:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 226949 in python-launchpad-bugs "[GUTSY] unmet dependency for python-launchpad-bugs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22694919:33
gnomefreakis there any docs on bzr-svn?19:42
beunognomefreak, you'll probably have more luck in #bzr with that19:42
beuno(specifically, pinging jelmer)19:42
gladkHi all20:06
gladkI have a question on translation20:07
gladkWhen I translate anything, I use a filter and choose "untranslated" to escape repeatings20:07
gladkBut in "suggestion" there are good translations sometimes, so is it really neccessary to dublicate translation in this case or not?20:08
gnomefreakim getting firegpg is already used by another project when i try to register firegpg project in LP but when i search for it i get No projects matching “firegpg” were found. 20:50
gnomefreakwhat can i do to get Lp to accept it as a project since the 2 comments conflict20:51
gnomefreaki searched with and without caps so im not sure what to do at this point20:53
gnomefreakalso how do i set up auto sync?21:00
gnomefreakok is someone updating or maintain work on LP?21:12
kikono maintenence is ongoing right now, no.21:14
gnomefreakkiko: LP wont allow me to register a project saying its in another project but searching for it give no results21:15
kikognomefreak, project's been disabled.21:15
gnomefreakoh21:15
kikowhat's the name?21:15
gnomefreakfiregpg21:15
kiko1 sec21:16
gnomefreakthanks kiko 21:16
kikognomefreak, do you want to own it?21:16
gnomefreaki would likie mozilla-extensions-dev team to own it21:17
kikoone sec.21:17
kikognomefreak, https://edge.launchpad.net/firegpg -- done!21:17
gnomefreakkiko thanks so much 21:17
asacgnomefreak: err ... mozilla-exensions-dev team own it? i thought bout mozillateam :) and extensions-dev the bug contact21:18
asacbut i think we can still change it ;)21:18
gnomefreakasac: ok either way i will change it if i can21:18
asacok ;)21:18
gnomefreakasac: mozillateam as driver21:19
asacgnomefreak: i changed the registrant to mozillateam now21:20
gnomefreakhow and where21:20
asacgnomefreak: change maintainer ;)21:20
gnomefreaki subscribed m-e-t to bugs now i would like to add them to bug contact but cant find it atm21:21
gnomefreakkiko how would i go about setting up auto sync after i start the branch?21:21
gnomefreakthink i found it21:22
kikognomefreak, specify it in the trunk series21:26
gnomefreaki did21:26
gnomefreakkiko thanks for all your help21:26
kikono worries!21:26
gnomefreakkiko how do i set bugs to use LP21:31
kikognomefreak, +edit21:32
gnomefreakthanks so thats how you got in :)21:33
kikoaha21:35
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dasdsdsadsdasdhello folks, when a branch is proposed to be merged and it is queued23:04
dasdsdsadsdasdwhen will it be merged?23:04
dasdsdsadsdasdanyone time to answer my question, please?23:06
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, right now it needs to be merged manually23:06
kikothe landing control is something thumper's team is working on in the next 2 months23:06
dasdsdsadsdasdah, ok23:06
kikothe queue needs to be processed by an individual23:07
kikothis will change23:07
kikobut it's not quite there yet!23:07
dasdsdsadsdasdok, thanks23:07
dasdsdsadsdasdan how do i merge it then23:08
kikowell, in essence, using bzr merge.23:08
dasdsdsadsdasdi am the "individual" ;-)23:08
kiko:)23:08
dasdsdsadsdasdok23:08
dasdsdsadsdasdi'll have a try23:08
dasdsdsadsdasdi thought it would be possible through the webfrontend23:08
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, soon, soon! poke thumper if you want more details.23:15
dasdsdsadsdasdoh, it's ok...i am fine 23:16
dasdsdsadsdasdi'll be patient ;-)23:16
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thumperdasdsdsadsdasd: it's coming.... real soon now....23:23
thumper:)23:23
dasdsdsadsdasdhi there, it's me again23:49
dasdsdsadsdasdis it possible to delete a release23:49
dasdsdsadsdasd?23:49
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, hmmm. well. yes. but it needs to be done by an admin23:54
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, so, see /topic; file a requestion. :)23:54
dasdsdsadsdasdhm, damn...i was just playing around23:54
dasdsdsadsdasdsame with packaging information?23:55
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, that can often be deleted by you in the +source page23:55
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, if you wanna play around, note we have staging.launchpad.net!23:55
dasdsdsadsdasdsure, i know...i was not thinking about ir23:56
dasdsdsadsdasdit23:56
nickelleryhey guys... for some reason, much of my translation for Ubuntu Hardy now appears as a 'suggestion', when before, they were automatically accepted23:56
nickellerythis is being done for en_CA23:56
nickellerydoes anyone knwo why?23:56
nickelleryI'm still on the en_CA translating team23:56
dasdsdsadsdasdcan you tell me where i can delete it in  my +source page23:58
dasdsdsadsdasdi must be blind23:58
kikodasdsdsadsdasd, what did you add to it23:58
kikonickellery, that's kind of odd. can you ask a Question (see /topic?)23:58
dasdsdsadsdasdi think, i added a branch to a ubuntu release23:59
nickellerykiko, what do u mean /topic?23:59
dasdsdsadsdasdhardy23:59

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