[00:34] <_polto_> liblivemedia is ultra out of date on ubuntu :( 
[02:38] <Kyral> How would one go about getting mirror information corrected on Launchpad?
[02:40] <jamesh> Kyral: could you be more specific?
[02:40] <jamesh> distribution mirror, branch mirror, vcs import?
[02:40] <Kyral> Someone registered Mirror.clarkson.edu (which I am the admin of) and the info is all wrong
[02:40] <Kyral> archive mirror
[02:44] <Kyral> i guess
[02:49] <jamesh> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror-clarkson-edu
[02:49] <Kyral> yah
[02:49] <lifeless> elmo: who admins that stuff ?
[02:49] <jamesh> salgado is one of the Launchpad devs, so he probably registered it when we migrated the archive mirror management into Launchpad
[02:50] <jamesh> lifeless: you don't see any "change ownership" links on that page?
[02:54] <lifeless> checking
[02:55] <lifeless> change owner link
[02:55] <lifeless> Kyral: whats your launchpad account name?
[02:55] <Kyral> kyral
[02:56] <lifeless> Chris Peterson ?
[02:56] <lifeless> sorry, Peterman ?
[02:56] <Kyral> Yup!
[02:56] <lifeless> done
[02:56] <Kyral> thanks
[03:06] <jamesh> lifeless: while you're around, could you transfer ownership of https://edge.launchpad.net/psycopg to the psycopg team?
[03:06] <jamesh> (it is currently owned by registry admins)
[03:30] <lifeless> we should allow people to do that themselves
[03:31] <lifeless> jamesh: done
[04:02] <bd_> long PPA queue today... I really wish those language packs would build on amd64/lpia as well as i386 :|
[04:28] <Amaranth> https://edge.launchpad.net/~espastai-ubuntu <--offensive name
[04:43] <lifeless> mm, do we have a policy on that ?
[05:39] <rlaager> This is probably obvious, but I can't figure it out. How do you create a team in Launchpad?
[05:41] <jamesh> rlaager: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam
[05:42] <rlaager> jamesh: Thanks!
[05:45] <rlaager> Next question: How do I request someone with magical Launchpad rights make said team the owner/driver of a Project (which should then make its members see that project as a Related Project on their launchpad page).
[05:52] <poolie> rlaager: if you're already the owner of the project you can change it yourself
[05:53] <rlaager> poolie: I'm not the owner. I'm trying to make a team to represent the upstream developers (of which I am one).
[05:53] <poolie> could you ask the owner to change it?
[05:53] <rlaager> If that's not the Launchpad Way, I'm open to other suggestions.
[05:53] <rlaager> I don't know how to find the owner.
[05:54] <poolie> rlaager: what project is it?
[05:54] <rlaager> Pidgin
[05:54] <poolie> btw no it's not very obvious how to create a group, there's a bug open on that, it annoys me every time :/
[05:55] <poolie> Amaranth/lifeless: you can open a quesntion in answers.launchpad.net/launchpad for offensive content
[05:55] <rlaager> Speaking of which, it seems there is still a Gaim project in Launchpad that should really be merged in or something.
[05:56] <poolie> rlaager: hm that's kind of a bug too
[05:57] <poolie> anyhow it's https://edge.launchpad.net/~tsetsbold
[05:58] <rlaager> What the heck? Who is he?
[05:59] <jamesh> someone who hasn't obviously done anything else on LP
[06:00] <lifeless> rlaager: whats your launchpad username, and how can I tell you're an upstream dev (before I go and change the owner for you)
[06:01] <poolie> rlaager: i filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/227601
[06:02] <jamesh> it is visible in a portlet
[06:02] <jamesh> which is collapsed by default
[06:02] <rlaager> lifeless: If you're running Pidgin, Help -> About. If you're not, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/rlaager is somewhat compelling (based on the fact that I actually have tickets assigned to me). If you want to be super hard core about it, we can trade e-mails to rlaager@pidgin.im or I can put something on pidgin.im itself that's not in the wiki or whatever.
[06:03]  * rlaager just realized how hard it is to "prove" something like that easily.
[06:04] <rlaager> lifeless: Oh, and I'm rlaager in Launchpad, too.
[06:04] <lifeless> have you created the team ?
[06:04] <poolie> i am running it 
[06:04] <poolie> hey there you are!
[06:04] <rlaager> lifeless: Not yet. I was about to and realized I should probably make sure this is the right way to do it first.
[06:04] <poolie> thanks, i use it all the time
[06:04] <lifeless> rlaager: create the team, let me know the name and I'll update the project owner for you
[06:05] <poolie> jamesh: no, it's not
[06:05] <lifeless> rlaager: yeah its hard to prove, which is why I didn't ask for proof per se :)
[06:05] <poolie> i think it used to be, maybe it was just removed?
[06:06] <jamesh> poolie: the "registered by:" bit in the lifecycle portlet is the project owner
[06:06] <jamesh> (for better or worse)
[06:06] <poolie> aiui the registrant and owner are different
[06:06] <poolie> maybe they are not distinct for projcets
[06:07] <lifeless> they are not
[06:07] <lifeless> only branches
[06:07] <rlaager> lifeless: The team is pidgin-developers.
[06:08] <lifeless> rlaager: its all yours
[06:09] <rlaager> lifeless: thanks
[06:09] <lifeless> you are welcome
[06:13] <rlaager> lifeless: Any ideas what we should do about the gaim project in launchpad?
[06:14] <lifeless> not sure if we have project merge code handy; please open a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[06:21] <jamesh> we've generally just deactivated the duplicate
[06:21] <jamesh> but there are bugs, questions and branches associated with each
[06:54] <rlaager> So if I wanted to start doing "official" upstream packages for Ubuntu (to address user requests for newer packaged versions of Pidgin in between Ubuntu releases), would a Team PPA be an appropriate way to do that?
[07:02] <jamesh> rlaager: that would work
[07:02] <jamesh> rlaager: although official is whatever the upstream says is official.
[07:02] <jamesh> If you want to use the PPA infrastructure to do the builds, you're welcome to :)
[07:03] <rlaager> jamesh: Well, sure. It's either that or we do our own repository at pidgin.im. I'd rather not do that if it can be avoided, both for load reasons and because doing a repository is annoying (I have one hackily setup at work.).
[07:03] <jamesh> the only thing to keep in mind is that the PPA builds will only cover i386, amd64 and lpia
[07:04] <jamesh> if you need greater architecture coverage, that will need to come from somewhere else
[07:07] <rlaager> Does Ubuntu support anything else?
[07:08] <bd_> yes, but xen doesn't, and PPA relies on Xen for security isolation
[07:09] <rlaager> bd_: What other archs? sparc?
[07:09] <RAOF> rlaager: Sparc and PPC are both supported by Ubuntu but not the PPA system.
[07:09] <jamesh> rlaager: depends what you mean by support
[07:09] <rlaager> In the end, I guess I don't really care. Doing a PPA is an easy way to help most people that are interested in such things.
[07:09] <jamesh> rlaager: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy lists hppa, ia64, powerpc and sparc as unofficial ports
[07:10] <rlaager> Is the PPA download system robust enough to handle a big wad of users (in case this gets popular)?
[07:10] <jamesh> but all the official ports are supported by PPA
[07:10] <jamesh> it should be.
[07:11] <bd_> rlaager: theoretically :)
[07:11] <bd_> note that you can't sign PPA archives yet
[07:11] <jamesh> PPAs aren't included in the Ubuntu mirror network though, so downloads go through the Canonical data centre only
[07:12] <rlaager> Well, I guess if it becomes a problem, we pull it or find another solution. The lack of signatures is problematic, though.
[07:12] <jamesh> if it becomes a problem, we'll need to fix it
[07:12] <jamesh> signed archives is coming
[07:12] <rlaager> Well, I won't let that stop me. I likely won't get to this immediately anyway.
[07:13] <jamesh> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/125103
[07:14] <rlaager> oh sweet, I could build in SILC support and all the people wanting that could use the PPA as well
[07:18] <bd_> https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart <-- April 2008 has passed :)
[07:19] <bd_> jamesh: and yeah, I'm subscribed to that bug actually :)
[09:07] <doko> is there a way to show bug reports targeted for a release, but already closed?
[09:10] <Hobbsee> yes, but you need to know the magic number of the milestone.
[09:10] <Hobbsee> oh wait, perhaps you don't.
[09:11] <Hobbsee> doko: it's an advanced search on b.l.n/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:11] <Hobbsee> doko: use the firefox search to find the milestone you want, out of the few hundred that are there.
[10:26]  * Hobbsee wonders what's up with rothera
[10:28] <\sh> I wonder why I get bad sigs on release.gpg 
[10:28] <\sh> while mirroring
[10:28] <wgrant> \sh: From a.u.c?
[10:28] <wgrant> Some mirrors do stupid things.
[10:29] <\sh> wgrant, yepp...from a.u.c
[10:29]  * \sh doesn't use other servers then a.u.c
[10:29] <\sh> and everytime it's then when " Archive-Update-in-Progress-leningradskaya.canonical.com " appears
[10:30] <\sh> and on the other servers...(which are mentioned in RR record of a.u.c.) sometimes it works
[10:38] <popey> uhm, there seems to be an issue with the canonical shop & openid
[10:38] <popey> it's repeatedly prompting for openid
[10:39] <laga> yes.
[10:39] <laga> very annoying
[10:39] <laga> and it really shouldn't be prompting for an ID at all if you just want to browse the goods
[10:40]  * wgrant got in fine without an OpenID, and with an OpenID.
[10:40] <Hobbsee> wgrant: isn't that because you had your own openid?
[10:41] <popey> seems better now
[10:41] <popey> but it was prompting repeatedly for 3 different users
[10:41] <wgrant> Hobbsee: I used LP OpenID.
[10:41] <wgrant> I believe one has no choice with the Canonical store.
[10:45] <gmb> It's probably due to demand. We had a similar problem when the first edition t-shirt went on sale.
[12:24] <mrevell> barry: Hi, do you have time to answer a mailing list question?
[12:28] <barry> mrevell: a few minutes.  almost time to start getting the family up :)
[12:30] <mrevell> barry:  Cool :) andrea-bs do you mind explaining the situation to barry?
[12:30] <andrea-bs> mrevell: sure :)
[12:31] <andrea-bs> barry: I'd like to change the name of a team and to rename the mailing list address too: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/31628
[12:33] <barry> andrea-bs: hi ya!  we can do team renames manually in this case.  i'll need help from our lp admins though, so i'll check with them when they get online later today.  thanks for the question id, we'll use that to track this
[12:33] <barry> andrea-bs, mrevell gotta run now, but i'll check back on this channel in a bit in case you have follow ups
[12:34] <andrea-bs> barry, mrevell: thank you for help!
[15:47] <trondhuso> hi room. As I don't really know where to ask this question, I decided that IRC probably was kinda like the best place to ask: Is the Icons used in Launchpad Open Source / Freely available? Who's behind them? I thought it was a Tango-thing, but now I am not sure.
[15:51] <intellectronica> Rinchen: do you happen to know the answer to trondhuso's question?
[15:52] <Rinchen> hi
[15:52] <Rinchen> trondhuso, the icons that are currently in the LP code base were designed expressly for LP and therefore are of the same license as LP.
[15:54] <Rinchen> trondhuso, https://help.launchpad.net/Legal
[15:54] <Rinchen> trondhuso, so, screenshots are currently ok.  Reuse is discouraged. 
[15:55] <trondhuso> ah. Ok. Some of the icons are nice for other webapplications. Thanks for the information Rinchen. Launchpad is really a nice tool.
[15:56] <Rinchen> trondhuso, glad you like it!  We're always fiddling around trying to make it better. We use it too. :-)
[15:58] <trondhuso> Rinchen: LP looks like something that could be used as an Intranet-solution like SharePoint.
[15:59] <Rinchen> trondhuso, interesting that you say that. statik ^^
[16:00] <trondhuso> Rinchen: It was the first thing that came to mind when I looked more at Launchpad. I am "unfortunately" working at a company that is very MS so I won't be able to get it in here, but .... :)
[16:01] <Rinchen> trondhuso, we've tossed around the idea a bit.  Our main focus has been on improvements and some other features that would enable a wider use in the future.
[16:01] <statik> hmm, when I've used sharepoint it was as a CMS, like Plone
[16:01] <Rinchen> you mean, LP isn't plone? ;-)
[16:01]  * Rinchen runs.
[16:01] <statik> there are some surface similarities, but it's different enough on the  backend that I don't think it would be a good replacement for sharepoint
[16:02] <statik> I've deployed plone before to replace sharepoint, and that works  pretty well
[16:10] <trondhuso> I am looking more at the document-handling of SP. I haven't really used SP that much, nor have I used LP that much, but look and feel - very similar. It would be cool if LP - or a fork of it - could become a SP-killer. :)
[18:19] <Wo0dy> hello, does anyone know if there is a channel for the rescuetime project?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/rescuetime-linux-uploader/ #rescuetime channel is empty
[18:30] <fbond> Hi, would someone mind removing .diff.gz and .dsc from my PPA?  I need to drop pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy.diff.gz, pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy.dsc from forest-alittletooquiet's PPA.
[18:31] <fbond> (I cannot use the delete function in launchpad because this version was superseded; it has the wrong series -- hardy, should be gutsy)
[18:39] <fbond> (or will dput --force cause the files to be overwritten?)
[18:42] <bd_> fbond: you'll need to use a new version number
[18:43] <bd_> if you put another version to hardy you might cause the old one to be dropped, but it'll take a few days
[18:43] <bd_> just add a pytasks_0.2.0-0ppa1gutsy2 or something
[18:45] <fbond> bd_: eh, I was hoping to avoid that.  The original version got superseded at the same time it was uploaded, because I accidentally had "hardy" in both packages changelogs...
[18:45] <fbond> bd_: But, okay, that seems harmless enough.
[18:49] <fbond> bd_: thanks
[18:50] <bd_> fbond: you can copy from the gutsy PPA to the hardy one, too, in the future
[18:50] <bd_> make sure you wait for it to build, and copy binaries, though
[18:50] <bd_> (due to LP#225331)
[18:51] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders!
[18:54] <beuno> goood evening?
[18:54] <beuno> mpt, so you've moved  :)
[18:54] <beuno> you're timezone suddenly makes sense
[18:55] <mpt> beuno, moved 3 weeks ago
[18:57] <beuno> mpt, enjoy London  :)
[18:58] <beuno> you've got one hell of a view
[19:00] <mpt> ayup
[19:22] <gnomefreak> is there a help page for bzr-svn?
[19:23] <gnomefreak> i cant find --help or man page i dont remember seeing one on LP either for bzr-svn
[19:26] <thekorn> hi, is there some documentation on the new PPA copy feature somewhere? is it possible to copy between diffenrent versions of ubuntu?
[19:26] <thekorn> are dependencies resolved correctly in this case?
[19:28] <andrea-bs> thekorn: I hope this will help you: https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart#copy
[19:31] <bd_> thekorn: It won't pull in any dependencies, and /make sure to copy binaries/ if it's within the same PPA
[19:31] <bd_> as otherwise the binaries will never be built
[19:32] <thekorn> first of all: I'm new to packaging :) but my question is:
[19:32] <thekorn> what about magic like   ${python:Depends}, ${misc:Depends},   in control files?
[19:32] <thekorn> are they changed when I copy from hardy to gutsy for example?
[19:33] <thekorn> I think it does not work in bug 226949
[19:42] <gnomefreak> is there any docs on bzr-svn?
[19:42] <beuno> gnomefreak, you'll probably have more luck in #bzr with that
[19:42] <beuno> (specifically, pinging jelmer)
[20:06] <gladk> Hi all
[20:07] <gladk> I have a question on translation
[20:07] <gladk> When I translate anything, I use a filter and choose "untranslated" to escape repeatings
[20:08] <gladk> But in "suggestion" there are good translations sometimes, so is it really neccessary to dublicate translation in this case or not?
[20:50] <gnomefreak> im getting firegpg is already used by another project when i try to register firegpg project in LP but when i search for it i get No projects matching “firegpg” were found. 
[20:51] <gnomefreak> what can i do to get Lp to accept it as a project since the 2 comments conflict
[20:53] <gnomefreak> i searched with and without caps so im not sure what to do at this point
[21:00] <gnomefreak> also how do i set up auto sync?
[21:12] <gnomefreak> ok is someone updating or maintain work on LP?
[21:14] <kiko> no maintenence is ongoing right now, no.
[21:15] <gnomefreak> kiko: LP wont allow me to register a project saying its in another project but searching for it give no results
[21:15] <kiko> gnomefreak, project's been disabled.
[21:15] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:15] <kiko> what's the name?
[21:15] <gnomefreak> firegpg
[21:16] <kiko> 1 sec
[21:16] <gnomefreak> thanks kiko 
[21:16] <kiko> gnomefreak, do you want to own it?
[21:17] <gnomefreak> i would likie mozilla-extensions-dev team to own it
[21:17] <kiko> one sec.
[21:17] <kiko> gnomefreak, https://edge.launchpad.net/firegpg -- done!
[21:17] <gnomefreak> kiko thanks so much 
[21:18] <asac> gnomefreak: err ... mozilla-exensions-dev team own it? i thought bout mozillateam :) and extensions-dev the bug contact
[21:18] <asac> but i think we can still change it ;)
[21:18] <gnomefreak> asac: ok either way i will change it if i can
[21:18] <asac> ok ;)
[21:19] <gnomefreak> asac: mozillateam as driver
[21:20] <asac> gnomefreak: i changed the registrant to mozillateam now
[21:20] <gnomefreak> how and where
[21:20] <asac> gnomefreak: change maintainer ;)
[21:21] <gnomefreak> i subscribed m-e-t to bugs now i would like to add them to bug contact but cant find it atm
[21:21] <gnomefreak> kiko how would i go about setting up auto sync after i start the branch?
[21:22] <gnomefreak> think i found it
[21:26] <kiko> gnomefreak, specify it in the trunk series
[21:26] <gnomefreak> i did
[21:26] <gnomefreak> kiko thanks for all your help
[21:26] <kiko> no worries!
[21:31] <gnomefreak> kiko how do i set bugs to use LP
[21:32] <kiko> gnomefreak, +edit
[21:33] <gnomefreak> thanks so thats how you got in :)
[21:35] <kiko> aha
[23:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hello folks, when a branch is proposed to be merged and it is queued
[23:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> when will it be merged?
[23:06] <dasdsdsadsdasd> anyone time to answer my question, please?
[23:06] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, right now it needs to be merged manually
[23:06] <kiko> the landing control is something thumper's team is working on in the next 2 months
[23:06] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ah, ok
[23:07] <kiko> the queue needs to be processed by an individual
[23:07] <kiko> this will change
[23:07] <kiko> but it's not quite there yet!
[23:07] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok, thanks
[23:08] <dasdsdsadsdasd> an how do i merge it then
[23:08] <kiko> well, in essence, using bzr merge.
[23:08] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i am the "individual" ;-)
[23:08] <kiko> :)
[23:08] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok
[23:08] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i'll have a try
[23:08] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i thought it would be possible through the webfrontend
[23:15] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, soon, soon! poke thumper if you want more details.
[23:16] <dasdsdsadsdasd> oh, it's ok...i am fine 
[23:16] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i'll be patient ;-)
[23:23] <thumper> dasdsdsadsdasd: it's coming.... real soon now....
[23:23] <thumper> :)
[23:49] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hi there, it's me again
[23:49] <dasdsdsadsdasd> is it possible to delete a release
[23:49] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ?
[23:54] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, hmmm. well. yes. but it needs to be done by an admin
[23:54] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, so, see /topic; file a requestion. :)
[23:54] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hm, damn...i was just playing around
[23:55] <dasdsdsadsdasd> same with packaging information?
[23:55] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, that can often be deleted by you in the +source page
[23:55] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, if you wanna play around, note we have staging.launchpad.net!
[23:56] <dasdsdsadsdasd> sure, i know...i was not thinking about ir
[23:56] <dasdsdsadsdasd> it
[23:56] <nickellery> hey guys... for some reason, much of my translation for Ubuntu Hardy now appears as a 'suggestion', when before, they were automatically accepted
[23:56] <nickellery> this is being done for en_CA
[23:56] <nickellery> does anyone knwo why?
[23:56] <nickellery> I'm still on the en_CA translating team
[23:58] <dasdsdsadsdasd> can you tell me where i can delete it in  my +source page
[23:58] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i must be blind
[23:58] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, what did you add to it
[23:58] <kiko> nickellery, that's kind of odd. can you ask a Question (see /topic?)
[23:59] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i think, i added a branch to a ubuntu release
[23:59] <nickellery> kiko, what do u mean /topic?
[23:59] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hardy