[00:00] ok this is gonna be a long night i think [00:00] * gnomefreak puts on helmet and joins -ops [00:00] http://hourly-archive.localgho.st/linux.html is the hourly site i'm a hmm, I thought I told cf he could increase the archives [00:10] <[reed]> localgho.st is mine ;) [00:11] i remember your name was mentioned but it's no longer there [00:12] gnomefreak: troll-alert? [00:12] [reed], how do I convert those dates into bonsai dates ? 2008-04-12-04 and 2008-04-13-04 [00:12] no a bunch of complaints agains ops [00:13] <[reed]> fta: 2008-04-12 04:00 [00:14] oh, the timezone is the same then [00:14] <[reed]> PST/PDT always [00:21] hmmm, not sure. maybe one of mozilla bug 408096 428288 292789 [00:21] Mozilla bug 408096 in MailNews: Backend "& not escaped as & in href when creating plaintext url html" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408096 [00:21] mozilla bug 428288 [00:21] Mozilla bug 428288 in Embedding: Docshell "[@ NS_GetInnermostURI - nsDocShell::ValidateOrigin]" [Blocker,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428288 [00:21] mozilla bug 292789 [00:22] Mozilla bug 292789 in General "SCRIPT tags can access chrome" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292789 [00:25] ok, it's the last one [00:25] Security Error: Content at http://saiki.cocolog-nifty.com/shoka/2005/08/post_99f6.html may not load or link to chrome://rikaichan/skin/popup-blue.css. [00:31] [reed], any magic to work around that ? ^^ [00:32] <[reed]> contentaccessible=yes [00:32] <[reed]> I believe [00:37] hm, where ? in chrome.manifest ? [00:37] hmm ... accessing EXT3 from windows? reality or a tale? [00:37] bug 220991 [00:37] Launchpad bug 220991 in thunderbird "Thunderbird corrupts attachments from IMAP exchange server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220991 [00:38] http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ [00:39] i can't stop being really scared about users doing that to share a thunderbird profile [00:39] its very unsafe but fairly easy to set up im told [00:40] ntfs on linux is not better i guess [00:40] yeah ... thats a quite bad combination: [00:40] easy + unsafe ;) [00:40] fta: agreed ... i don't want tbird profiles to be shared at a ll :/ [00:41] but otoh, i somehow believe more in ntfs support in linux than this thing for windows [00:42] a sync tool would be nice. I'm still using mutt because i can access it from anywhere through ssh, and kill it remotely with a killall if i forgot to shut it before leaving. I never corrupted my spool in ~12/13 years [00:43] so, where should i put this contentaccessible=yes ? [00:47] ok, found it, works fine [00:51] asac, does cvs works for you ? [00:51] didnt try ;) [00:51] gnomefreak, could you please try this: make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/firefox-3.0.mk get-orig-source DEBIAN_DATE=20080506t1400 [00:51] i am on hardy if that matters [00:51] running make -f client.mk checkout [00:52] looks good so far [00:52] i get a bunch of updates [00:52] is it working? [00:52] not yet finished, but so far looks good [00:52] * gnomefreak has low memory if i dont say good night it means it locked up and ill be back in morning [00:52] actually it feels faster than ever ;) [00:53] done ... mozillla tree updated [00:53] here we go [00:53] still writable segment [00:53] intrepid issue i guess [00:53] maybe rebuild cvs [00:53] locally [00:53] an i here [00:54] ah [00:54] slow as shit [00:55] sorry, router crashed [00:55] i stopped at i am on hardy if that matters [00:55] fta: all worked fine for me ... faster than ever i said [00:56] and the moz tree update was indeed really quick [00:56] snappy [00:56] hm [00:56] fta: i asked gnomefreak to rebuild cvs or depends [00:56] so it's an intrepid thing ?... [00:56] yes [01:01] asac: can you please post that command that fta did [01:01] i locked up before i could copy it to a file [01:01] * gnomefreak testing on Hardy [01:01] make -f /usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/firefox-3.0.mk get-orig-source DEBIAN_DATE=20080506t1400 [01:02] thanks [01:02] copying to file first [01:05] my fucking show isnt on tonight :( damn elections [01:06] what show ? [01:06] NCIS [01:07] fta_: what version of cvs do you have on intrepid? [01:07] cvs: [01:07] Installed: 1:1.12.13-9 [01:07] on Hardy [01:07] 1:1.12.13-10 === fta_ is now known as fta [01:08] that one ubuntu change messed it up? i doubt its cvs issue [01:08] maybe something in toolchain [01:08] i've rebuilt it, same thing [01:09] i guess make would be what cahnged to make it fail on intrepid [01:09] what package since make isnt really a package but a command [01:10] asac: was right this is fast and no lock ups not even really any lag but once [01:10] zlib issue? [01:11] not sure [01:11] make is the only thing that would have changed from hardy to intrepid since its ina package in toolchain [01:15] anyway ... off <6h till meeting starts. great [01:15] its done here [01:15] night [01:15] night asac [01:15] wtf is platform team [01:27] fta: is sunbird set up for nobinonly from devscripts as well? [01:27] hm, i think so [01:27] i didnt see it in the help or --help [01:28] it's automagic [01:28] ah ok [01:40] fta: i saw you updated bzr does that mean your sending to PPA or should i build it [01:41] i was planning to sync my ppa today for ebverything but i've stopped because of this cvs bug [01:41] ah ok [01:41] i can quickly do m-d [01:41] if not i will build them in morning its not that big of a deal i just want to see tb3 update [01:52] oh, my router didn't crash, it was a firmware update pushed by my isp [01:54] lol [01:54] strangely, i got a page in ff3 saying "don't power it down, don't reboot it, wait for it to back in 15min, etc.." [01:54] damn [01:54] no idea how it ended up there [01:54] someone needs to fix blam :( [01:54] maybe ill try that one [02:00] pushing tb3 [02:01] fta: thanks [02:01] im trying to find a way around this email+key+LP [02:09] pushing sm2 [02:10] :) [02:12] still no ETA for intrepid ppa :( [02:12] maybe UDS [02:12] pushing to hardy or just intrepid? [02:13] both [02:13] you have ppa for intrepid [02:13] ah ok [02:13] yes but it's not building [02:16] ah [02:18] if i add an email to my key can i than use that email to sign emails like for replying to bugs? [02:23] http://www.spicebird.com/ [02:24] hm, yes, i think so [02:32] fta: why is firefox lang packa nd xulrunner gb fr both not compatiable [02:32] with latest ff3.0 prior to your push [02:36] ah new version od devscripts too [02:36] because the lang packs have a maxversion fixed to 3.0b5, and it's 3.0pre [02:36] ah [02:36] it shouldnt hurt anything anyway [02:37] it does. some strings are not translated creating xul errors [02:37] so you'd better not force those [02:38] i don't really care myself, all my computers are in english [02:41] too bad those langpacks are bundled with gnome ones, i can't easily push updates to my ppa (to match the apps) [02:41] i have no intention of installing them atm [02:41] fta: i hate the idea of them being bundled tbh [02:41] me too [02:44] http://www.spicebird.com/demos/spicebird.html [02:51] i like the idea of spicebird sounds like seamonley a little unless they usse official tb braning [02:59] ok that is frigging sweet [03:01] ok time for bed night fta [03:02] night [03:22] anyone awake? [03:23] I just sent an email and got an error... could not copy to sent folder, compact folders. I have 20 gig empty on my drive why would I have to do that? [07:39] asac, I tested your -proposed languague-pack [07:39] asac, language-pack-gnome-zh and it works fine as far as I can tell [07:44] victory747: great. please comment on bug [07:44] victory747: its bug 222673 [07:44] Launchpad bug 222673 in language-pack-gnome-zh "language-pack-gnome-pt-base has pt-br translation" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222673 [07:51] asac, btw, what time zone are you in? [07:52] @now Berlin [07:52] asac: Current time in Europe/Berlin: May 07 2008, 08:52:20 - Current meeting: Platform Team [07:52] victory747: ^^ [07:53] ok - I had tested it this morning but was waiting until i thought you were up [07:53] yeah. usually i am not up yet, but i had to attend the platform team meeting (see the time line above) [07:54] i hope the time is still bearable for you now ;) [07:55] it's only 3PM - still at work :) [07:56] asac, ok, commented on your bug [08:08] ok, IO bustage fix is now in hardy-updates [08:08] bug 215728 [08:08] Launchpad bug 215728 in xulrunner-1.9 "[MASTER] Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215728 === asac_ is now known as asac [12:18] what the hell is the command to add emails to gpg keys? i tried gpg --edit-key , i tried without i also tried gpg adduid [12:18] from man page the gog --edit-key should havedone it [12:19] also just tried with email instead of keyID still doesnt work [12:19] * gnomefreak wonders if it is intrepid breakage [12:26] nvm i forgot adduid is after you get gpg prompt :( [12:40] YES it worked :) [12:42] asac: when you get a minute can you take a look at bug 227689 im thinking it s a feature but you would know a way to change the setting in ubufox as i have never had to do that and cant see anything that would effect it [12:42] Launchpad bug 227689 in firefox-3.0 "Using Ubuntu-Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5, there seems to be no way I can clean out the address bar autocomplete. If you respond, hope you will start me from Ubuntu or Firefox taskbar, eg click on Edit-Preferences, etc. " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227689 [12:44] also where do i find the ummmm whats it called spelling help for Tbird 2.0.0.x [12:46] gnomefreak: thats a question, not a bug [12:46] you can make a question out of it [12:46] and forget about it [12:46] ill send him to answers.Lp.com [12:46] or mailing list [12:49] ok done now where do i find tbird spelling help dictionary type pack? [12:55] spelling help? [12:55] i think you want the hunspell dictionary [12:59] asac: yeah thats it ill grab it i wasnt sure if it was packed into l-p-g [13:01] asac: um that cant be good [13:01] it wants to remove tbird-gnome-support along with thunderbird [13:01] wtf is this? [13:02] asac: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/1010451 [13:03] it seems its because of hunspell-en-us that causes that === jw2328_ is now known as james_w [13:05] yes, bogus conflicts afaict [13:06] but hunspell works :) thanks [13:07] could you test it with thunderbird? [13:07] test what? hunspell? [13:08] with tbird yes [13:08] it works i did test it :) [13:09] my biggest fault is separate i spell it seperate and that is what i tested but it told me my last name was spelled wrong [13:09] but i expect that [13:13] hehe [13:20] gnomefreak: didn't myspell-en-us work with thunderbird? [13:21] asac: it removes thunderbird [13:21] so i highly doubt it would work with it ;) [13:21] http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/1010451 is the result of trying to install it [13:22] * gnomefreak wonders why it has a conflict on most of those packages in the pastebin [13:22] oh myspell [13:22] i didnt try that [13:23] lets see if it installs [13:23] myspell-en-us is already the newest version. [13:23] i will remove hunspell and see [13:25] yes it does work [13:25] hmmmm [13:26] i never saw the spell checker in the tool bar [13:55] ff3 now asks to accept the EULA license at startup [13:55] it does? [13:56] fta: i didnt see that in any of them [13:56] yep, the new one i've pushed yesterday [13:56] fta: no it doesnt maybe from fresh install? [13:56] but upgrade didnt ask me that it just failed to find those 2 lang packs [13:57] nope, i've upgraded my laptop, and bam, a new ui popped up [13:57] fta: why? we don't distribute it under that eula [13:57] at least thats my understanding [13:57] i didn't change anything [13:57] * gnomefreak hasnt seen that from point releases [13:58] hmm [13:59] i dont think having that is a great idea as people are already and have been since early dev hardy are pissed off that ff3 is in main let alone installed by default. seeing the EULA lic. may provoke that even more :( [13:59] it's possible to set a key to have that accepted by default [13:59] sorry ff in main has been since debian went to ice* and we aggred to mozilla terms [14:00] but it may be better to not build that [14:01] maybe there is a configure switch? [14:02] fta: you said you were getting weird output from gcc-4.3 while building something? someone mentioned 08:53 < awalton__ > gnomefreak, -Wno-strict-aliasing was broken in gcc-4.3 [14:02] was that the issue? [14:02] nope [14:03] i think setting browser.EULA.override should be ok [14:04] there's no knob in configure [14:04] in our pref [14:04] yes, that pref is the knob from what i see [14:05] yep, i know, i've read the code yesterday when i've seen the commit [14:05] we should punch a ubuntu.js into /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/defaults/preferences/ and ship that in debian/ [14:06] could that be because you have ubufox installed? since im hearing its not installed with ff but a recommends/suggestions [14:06] gnomefreak: no [14:06] unrelated [14:06] oh ok [14:07] its 0900 EST and im already thinking about jack and coke [14:11] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/eula.png [14:11] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/eula2.png [14:12] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/eula3.png [14:14] gnomefreak: what is jack? [14:14] fta: you have a screen for the new cert exception page? [14:16] the ui or the page ? [14:17] asac: jack daniels its bourbon/whiskey [14:17] at 9am ? [14:17] but i have jim beam(same as jack daniels for most part) and pepsi [14:17] waoo [14:17] fta: i will only have 1 glass [14:18] gnomefreak: think about your health :/ [14:18] asac: i do thats why i havent drank in 2 years [14:18] good time to start now? [14:18] cheers ;) [14:18] i used to have 2 a night after work to unwind but had to stop per doctor [14:20] asac: eh maybe not best time but i figure one wont kill me. doctors in usa say 1 glass of wine/beer/whiskey is healthy to prevent heat problems [14:21] not sure where else they say that but they always change things every year one year its good next its very bad than its good again :( [14:22] same goes for eggs, coffee, and a bunch of others [14:25] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/bad_cert.png [14:26] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/bad_cert2.png [14:35] asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10730/ [14:40] that looks normal to me [14:41] ? [14:41] the cert invlaid [14:41] yes [14:41] only the icon changed recently [14:42] ah [14:43] isnt that what people have been complaining about in one of the bugs ive seeen atleast [14:45] fta: ok if i post them to a -devel-discuss thread? [14:45] (formally asking) [14:46] it's volatile, no guaranty it remains there for long. [14:46] i copied it :) [14:47] ok then [14:49] asac, you may refer to this: http://www.dria.org/wordpress/archives/2008/05/06/635/ [15:09] asac: was bug 67667 fixed? im going through bookmarks fro 2 exports and making one file out of them and some old bugs im running into [15:09] Launchpad bug 67667 in firefox "I can't use my own application to manage syndication" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67667 [15:36] asac: myspell-en-us doesnt seem to work right the more i use it i missspelled conveince the option it gives is convince the correct spelling is convenience. is there a way to train myspell or hunspell for that matter? [15:36] im gonna chek with hunspell installed with myspell-en-us [15:53] asac: ok it works great with hunspell isntalled with myspell-en-us so maybe we can use hunspell or hunspell-en-us as default and get rid of myspell since hunspell is smarter/has more definitions? [15:56] gnomefreak: we should look into it for intrepid. sure [15:56] actually i always thought that hunspell is default already [15:56] but most likely that was in debian and so i forgot ;) [15:57] i thought we did that for gutsy [15:57] i can swear we did but for some reason myspell-en-us is installed with tbird since i never installed it [16:01] gnomefreak, apt-cache rdepends myspell-en-us [16:02] going out for some fresh air, i'll try to make a preview of songbird later today, if in can figure out that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10730/ [16:05] for tbird 1.5 we used depends on hunspell or beta 2.0 but we changed them i remember because we had an issue with hunspell versioning with debian or something like that [16:06] fta: find out if it happens in hardy as well but it shouldnt since bzr versioning is same in hardy intrepid [16:06] !info bzr-builddeb hardy [16:07] bzr-builddeb: bzr plugin for Debian package management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.93ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 88 kB, installed size 600 kB [16:07] yep same [16:27] fta: most likely due to change gcc defaults [16:28] fta: there were a bunch of defaults added (maybe only planned) ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilerFlags [16:29] fta: if you find the intruder, bug keescook in -devel about it [16:29] i suspect: [16:29] -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 [16:29] First enabled in Ubuntu 8.10. Provides compile-time best-practices errors for certain libc functions, and provides run-time checks of buffer lengths and memory regions. Only activated when compiled with -O2 or higher. Most problems are related to common unsafe uses of certain libc functions. [16:29] fta: ^^ [16:29] I apologize if this is the wrong place for this, but is it possible to get Java 1.4 and xulrunner-1.9 to get along without breaking the software index? I have yet to have a crash problem and I absolutely need Java 1.4 and don't want to have an old, possibly insecure version of xulrunner installed. [16:29] fta: you could also try to build with -Os [16:30] not -O2 ... which is known to be better on decent archs [16:30] Leftmost: java 1.4 is not buildable anymore. so i am sorry, but 1.4 is not available anymore [16:30] you could try the latest from sun [16:31] that might still work with xulrunner-1.9 [16:31] bug #205388 [16:31] Launchpad bug 205388 in devscripts "Dch won't allow non-Ubuntu distros for -D option" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205388 [16:31] asac, I can install 1.4 just fine on my own. When I do so, however, Update Manager goes haywire and everything starts complaining about a broken package. [16:32] Leftmost: you should uninstall the package [16:32] whatever 1.4 package you had installed [16:32] I can't. I absolutely need it for work. [16:33] Leftmost: uninstall the package + install java 1.4 from sun ... thats the only advise i can give you [16:37] I'm using a package built with java-package from the Sun package. Apparently this builds the package to provide j2re1.4. Is there no better way to manage the package conflict? I apologize if I'm beating a dead horse but I'd prefer not to have unmanaged packages floating around. [16:38] Leftmost: java-package? does that still exist [16:38] let me check [16:40] ok [16:42] we dropped 1.4 from repos [16:42] afair [16:42] * gnomefreak thinks asac acked that one too [16:43] yes the blackdown package [16:43] Leftmost: can you paste apt-cache show PKGNAME of your produced package please [16:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com [16:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10761/ [16:49] Leftmost: ok i can fix the java-package. but i have to go now, so it has to wait till tomorrow - or maybe in a few hours [16:50] asac, alright. Thank you for your help. Let me know if I can do anything. [16:52] Leftmost: yeah ... stay in this channel ;) ill come back [16:52] Heheh. I'm here for another seven hours. No need to worry on that count.:) [17:26] back [17:27] asac, the thing is, i've already fixed 2 crashes in realpath. [17:27] the code looks like: [17:27] char exePath[MAXPATHLEN]; [17:27] realpath(argv0, exePath); [17:27] MAXPATHLEN = 1024 [17:28] strlen(argv0) ~ 130 [17:28] yet, doing this fixed it: [17:28] - char exePath[MAXPATHLEN]; [17:28] + char exePath[MAXPATHLEN * 10]; [17:42] mozilla bug 432492 [17:42] Mozilla bug 432492 in Phishing Protection "rate limit long-running safebrowsing updates" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432492 [17:59] gnomefreak, found the cvs bug [17:59] this was yesterday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10623/ [18:00] this is noww ith a patched cvs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10777/ [18:01] [reed], cvs has a corrupted file in mozilla/browser/themes/gnomestripe/browser/places/ [18:03] I don't suppose anybody happens to have a stack trace of the crash 432492 caused? [18:04] bug 432492 [18:04] mozilla bug 432492 [18:04] Mozilla bug 432492 in Phishing Protection "rate limit long-running safebrowsing updates" [Normal,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432492 [18:05] i don't, sorry [18:05] k === Leftmost is now known as Lunchmost [18:41] hello? [18:45] fta: where was it? [18:45] ah i see [18:46] read what you wrote about it :) [18:46] Jazzva: you around? [18:46] gnomefreak: Yep... [18:46] asac: could use you as well [18:46] Jazzva: what lic. are we looking for in extensions? [18:46] Jazzva: i found one i would like to try [18:47] gnomefreak: Trilicense, mpl, gpl, lgpl, apache 2, bsd, mit are listed on Firefox3Extensions wiki... [18:47] one of them is fine? [18:48] or some combo? [18:48] One of them is just fine :) [18:48] should be easy enough :) [18:48] Go for it ;) [18:48] i hope this is easier than i think [18:48] And please add the extension info to the wiki page, if you already didn't ;) [18:49] i will once i figure out what im doing :) [18:50] i lost the frigging link and cant remember name of it damn [18:50] fta: there? [18:50] fta: i summoned you in #developers [18:51] asac: are we carrying ff2 in intrepid seeing as i dont think intrepid will be released before EOS for ff2 [18:51] gnomefreak: for now we can keep it ... we will probably remove it before we release [18:52] asac: ok [18:59] unstable extensions are ok or no? [19:01] gnomefreak: what are unstable extensions? [19:02] asac: firegpg isnt stable yet [19:02] http://getfiregpg.org/?page=install&lang=en [19:02] i have xpi im about to unpack and make sure it fits everything [19:02] if its useful and doesn't crash browser right away its ok for ubuntu [19:03] asac, i don't have time right now. in a nutshell, prism build system requires full xul sources, so our sdk doesn't work. i've clone (extracted and patched) the build system from xul so sources are no longer needed and our sdk works [19:03] we have some time to stabilize it if we package it early [19:03] asac: ok ill start on it and see if i can do this [19:03] fta: ok thanks ... ill forward that to plasticmillion ... and tell him to sync up with you in case he wants this [19:04] thats strange they took a .xpi.gz and packed it inside the .xpi :( [19:05] i lied they took .xpi packed it into a .xpi.gz and packed that into a .xpi [19:09] that was my fault i unpacked it and repacked it :( [19:12] gnomefreak: hehe :) [19:12] you should unpack the .xpi before creating an upstream branch [19:12] e.g. create upstream branch from unpacked xpi + unpack chrome .jar files [19:12] then start packaging from there [19:12] well it has everything so far i can tell [19:12] like outlined in wiki [19:13] i want to package it into a .deb or .xpi [19:13] the idea is not to add a .xpi or .jar file to bzr ... only in extracted/source form [19:13] gnomefreak: you want to package the upstream .xpi (unless they release sources) to produce the sources (orig.tar.gz) required to build our package (.deb) [19:14] they have a source package [19:14] this is gonna be a bitch :) [19:14] gnomefreak: they have? [19:14] then import that as a .upstream branch [19:14] yes but i havent grabbed it [19:14] and use the Packaging guide for firefox3extensions [19:14] asac: i have to make a debian dir than [19:14] im reading it [19:15] gnomefreak: no ... first create .upstream branch ... then create a .ubuntu branch from that ... and create debian/ dir in there [19:15] use the debian/ dir from XPI.TEMPLATE as a template [19:15] ok [19:15]