[00:00] <komputes> ubuntu: SATA or IDE?
[00:00] <ubuntu> komputes: SATA
[00:01] <ad> hi , is there a BrainStorm developer here !?
[00:01] <JoCo> How do I install the flash plugin for firefox?
[00:01] <ikonia> JoCo: install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[00:01] <komputes> ubuntu: try quiting gparted and getting bacxk into it through a terminal by running "sudo gparted"
[00:01] <ikonia> JoCo: you can do that through your favourite package manager
[00:01] <bazhang> Aruza, what about modprobe ide-disk what does that return
[00:01] <djhash> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[00:02] <ikonia> djhash: has, thats not the suggested way of installing
[00:02] <ad> where can i get help for ubuntu.brainstorm.com
[00:02] <ubuntu> komputes: Done. No diffrence.
[00:02] <JoCo> ?
[00:02] <ikonia> djhash: that would casue issues outside the package manager
[00:02] <bazhang> ad just sign up no help needed-->just a brain ;]
[00:02] <Aruza> bazhang: nothin except a new prompt
[00:02] <ikonia> JoCo: open your package manager (normally synaptic) and install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[00:02] <bazhang> Aruza, okay good
[00:02] <ad> bazhang, i need Dev-Help
[00:03] <ikonia> ad: in what respect ?
[00:03] <bazhang> modprobe ide-generic Aruza
[00:03] <komputes> ubuntu: what does cfdisk show?
[00:03] <ad> ikonia,  i am installing brainstorming @ my local site and have issues
[00:03] <Aruza> bashang: now i have a few lines saying I/O resource not free and ports already in use
[00:03] <bazhang> ad ah sorry for the levity then
[00:03] <ubuntu> komputes: The truth, all of my partitions including the NTFS, FAT32, ext3 and swap
[00:04] <ad> bazhang,  is there a dev channel for ubuntu ?
[00:04] <ikonia> ad: what are the issues installing ?
[00:04] <bazhang> ad probably nothing to do with brainstorm though and not a support channel
[00:04] <komputes> ubuntu: we're talking about this one disk which gparted shows as unformated
[00:04] <ad> ikonia, i have problems customizing on a local domain other than ubuntu one
[00:04] <ikonia> ad: can you expand on that ?
[00:04] <ubuntu> komputes: That we are
[00:05] <fde> ad: your topic would be off topic for that... if you're talking about a program, please see if they have support setup
[00:05] <ikonia> ad: where did you get the source for brainstorming ?
[00:05] <Creationist> I am trying to get my backup of my FF2 settings from Feisty to work with FF2 in Hardy.  But after purging Firefox from Hardy and installing Firefox 2, I copy my backup of ~/.mozilla/ to my home directory.  When I start Firefox, all my bookmarks are there and the extensions are listed, but none of them work.  This has worked perfectly with other upgrades... what am I missing?
[00:05] <komputes> ubuntu: ha, what does cfdisk show concerning this one disk which gparted shows as unformated
[00:05] <ad> ikonia,  there is a howto site in the wiki , i am off for a smoke , will be right back
[00:05] <ikonia> Creationist: define non work
[00:06] <kitche> Creationist: that the ubuntu firefox is not the standard firefox from their site most likely
[00:06] <komputes> Creationist: has this .mozilla dir been used in FF3?
[00:06] <Creationist> ikonia: Well, they're listed in the Add-Ons window, but they have no options under Tools,
[00:06] <babolat> hello
[00:06] <Aruza> bazhang: now i have a few lines saying I/O resource not free and ports already in use
[00:06] <nubbie_> Creationist: why not just reinstall all of the plugins manually? ie. delete the contents of the plugins folder within ~/.mozilla and install them one by one from mozilla's site. there isn't much effort involved.
[00:06] <Creationist> komputes: No.
[00:06] <ikonia> Creationist: not all the plugins / addons work in ff3
[00:06] <kbrosnan> Creationist: delete your extensions.rdf from ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[00:06] <Creationist> nubbie_: I have about 20 of them :)
[00:06] <bazhang> Aruza, I saw that still looking for a solution hang on
[00:07] <Creationist> ikonia: I know... I've never used Firefox 3 with this .mozilla/ directory.
[00:07] <Aruza> bazhang: kk =)
[00:07] <ubuntu> komputes: All partitions on the disk
[00:07] <ikonia> kitche: firefox3 beta is the beta from the mozilla site, packaged for ubuntu
[00:07] <komputes> Creationist: did you remove FF3 before purging firefo*?
[00:07] <kitche> ikonia: umm ok not sure what that has to do with FF2
[00:07] <Creationist> komputes: Yes, I did.
[00:07] <ikonia> kitche: ok, firefox2 is firefox from the mozilla site
[00:08] <komputes> ubuntu: ok, reinstall FF3 and FF2 and then follow the instructions i gave you
[00:08] <Creationist> komputes: But again, this entire /.mozilla/ directory is from a backup... a totally separate heirarchy of the tree so it wouldn't have been touched by FF3.
[00:08] <komputes> since you removed and didn't purge FF3, you system still thinks your FF2 is FF3 and it will b buggy
[00:08] <ubuntu> komputes: What's FF2 and FF3?
[00:08] <kbrosnan> Creationist: please find and delete your extensions.rdf from your firefox profile folder
[00:08] <komputes> Creationist: I understand what happened
[00:08] <ikonia> ubuntu: firefox 2 and version 3
[00:08] <komputes> sorry
[00:08] <komputes> that was a msg for Creationist
[00:09] <ubuntu> komputes: Thought so, it was a little irrelevant :P
[00:09] <Creationist> kbrosnan: I don't have one under /.mozilla/
[00:09] <komputes> ubuntu: can you post a screenshot of them side by side gparted/cfdisk?
[00:09] <ubuntu> komputes: http://static.pici.se/pictures/cIrJoyaMP.png
[00:09] <ubuntu> komputes: Way ahead of you
[00:09] <komputes> ha
[00:09] <dnlacero> hello, having trouble to automount my sony digital camera via usb, i just revert to the 'full speed' mode (slower) by unloading ehci_hcd, but i still have the camera unmounted, any idea? by the way lsusb shows the camera on one usb port..
[00:10] <hostname> someone has to work aicrack with the intel 4965
[00:10] <kbrosnan> Creationist: in one of the subfolders? ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/...
[00:10] <komputes> ubuntu: :O
[00:10] <ubuntu> komputes: I too am surprised.
[00:11] <crunchybumble> question : somehow windows sh@t all over my ubuntu install
[00:11] <crunchybumble> i've never experienced this
[00:11] <babolat> crunchybumble: how so
[00:11] <Creationist> komputes: So I reinstalled FF3, then purged firefo*.  Now I should be able to reinstall firefox-2 and then copy my backup .mozilla/ over, right?
[00:11] <Y-Town> I cannot get the talkd daemon to run on one of my  laptops.... is there a way to see if its running or start it?
[00:11] <crunchybumble> but i recovered some lost partitions on a couple of old IDE drives
[00:11] <kindofabuzz> since i can't browse the network using Thunar, what can i use?
[00:12] <crunchybumble> (to do this, i had to get a new drive, SATA, and load some ubunutu flavour on it
[00:12] <dnlacero> question:hello, having trouble to automount my sony digital camera via usb, i just revert to the 'full speed' mode (slower) by unloading ehci_hcd, but i still have the camera unmounted, any idea? by the way lsusb shows he camera on one port..
[00:12] <Creationist> On that note, why WAS beta software chosen to be installed by default into an LTS version?  Seems VERY anti-user friendly...
[00:12] <crunchybumble> then run testdisk against my partition table
[00:12] <crunchybumble> which worked great
[00:12] <JoCo> ikonia, it says I have the latest version but nothing that uses flash in firefox works :/
[00:12] <JoCo> it is greyed out with a play button on it
[00:12] <crunchybumble> but when I booted off of those recovered drives, something ... for lack of better term happened
[00:12] <bazhang> Aruza, what is the exact error message you get (or something close) that drops you into busybox shell
[00:12] <ikonia> JoCo: what version / platform are you using ubuntu on
[00:12] <ikonia> 8.04/32bit ?
[00:12] <babolat> !repeat | dnlacero
[00:12] <kbrosnan> JoCo: uninstall the flashblock extension
[00:13] <komputes> Creationist: it worked for me
[00:13] <babolat> dnlacero: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725301
[00:13] <crunchybumble> and now windows boots off of my SATA device, which never had windows loaded on it
[00:13] <JoCo> ikonia, 8.04
[00:13] <kindofabuzz> Creationist: talking about FF?  because it's very close to final release and over 16000 bugs have been fixd since firefox 2
[00:13] <ikonia> JoCo: 32bit ?
[00:13] <JoCo> ikonia, yea
[00:13] <komputes> ubuntu: ok i'm looking
[00:13] <bazhang> Creationist, you have made your displeasure clear; either try the solution I offered or move on thanks
[00:13] <soundray> JoCo: have you restarted firefox?
[00:13] <JoCo> i dont have the flashblock extension
[00:13] <ikonia> JoCo: you've not installed flashblock
[00:13] <JoCo> soundray, yea
[00:13] <Creationist> bazhang: Using a different application isn't exactly a solution, it's a workaround :)
[00:13] <ikonia> JoCo: you just installed the flash plugin - thatsi t
[00:13] <komputes> kindofabuzz: "very close" isn't it end of july?
[00:13] <crunchybumble> i haven't access to another device, but just what in all get out could have happened
[00:13] <JoCo> No i have had it installed
[00:13] <Creationist> bazhang: Thats like telling someone to use Exaile instead of Amarok when their Amarok is buggy.
[00:13] <dabbill> any one have problems with gmount in Hardy? I wont do any thing for me, doesnt even give any error messages.
[00:14] <ikonia> JoCo: you've got flash block installed ?
[00:14] <bazhang> Creationist, nonetheless carping about it now wont fix it thanks
[00:14] <babolat> crunchybumble: it's going to be easier for the people in this room if u put all those detail in one message u know
[00:14] <JPSman> Hey, what does the guided partition slider MEAN?
[00:14] <JoCo> ill check 1 sec
[00:14] <Aruza> bazhang: i dont see an error it goes right from the Ubuntu loading screen into the shell
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> komputes: not for sure, but ff 3 b5 is much better than stable firefox 2
[00:14] <Creationist> bazhang: I was just curious about the decision, that's all.  kindofabuzz answered it for me.
[00:14] <komputes> ubuntu: do you get the same error from the live CD? This is on Hardy 8.04 or Gutsy 7.10?
[00:14] <starcannon> dnlacero I'm not sure with a Sony camera, but if your just wanting to get the pictures off of it, I reccommend using a card reader, I have an old junker camera here that won't work right in Ubuntu, but I can pull the flash card out of it and get the stuff off of it that way
[00:14] <JoCo> I dont have flashblock installed but I do have ubuntu firefox modifications 0.5
[00:14] <komputes> kindofabuzz: FF2 more stable, therefore what i use
[00:15] <sectech> Just a general question... Is there such a things as a removal blacklist? Where synaptics or update-manager won't be allowed to remove a package?
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> komputes: 3b5 faster, less buggy
[00:15] <ubuntu> komputes: Same problem on LiveCD 8.04 and installed 8.04
[00:15] <djhash> Aruza: type exit or ctrl+d in busybox and it'll tell you what error it encountered
[00:15] <ikonia> JoCo: can you give me a url of a site that is failing please.
[00:15] <komputes> kindofabuzz: less buggy? have you seen launchpad?
[00:15] <Aruza> bazhang: i found it, had to load recovery, ALERT! /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk does not exist
[00:15] <dnlacero> thanks starcannon and babolat
[00:15] <JPSman> Heya, I am installing linux and need help with partitioning?
[00:15] <starcannon> sectech theres something called pinning your system
[00:15] <bazhang> Aruza, okay you need to reboot wubi, and then enter the grub menu and add that (e to edit the kernel it will boot) all_generic_ide to the end of the boot parameters (near quiet, splash, etc) then d then b to boot
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> komputes: over 16000 bugs have been fixed since firefox 2
[00:16] <starcannon> sectech which accomplishes what your talking about
[00:16] <JoCo> any site like digg.com the ad in the upper right is grey with a play button on it
[00:16] <sectech> starcannon, I am trying to triage a bug... I never heard of a removal blacklist
[00:16] <djhash> JPSman: whats up
[00:16] <fde> sectech: it is possible, /j #debian-bots and /msg dpkg hold
[00:16] <JoCo> and when i click it it loads
[00:16] <dabbill> any one have problems with gmount in Hardy? I wont do any thing for me, doesnt even give any error messages.
[00:16] <kindofabuzz> yes there are new bugs but..
[00:16] <JoCo> but video and sound doesnt work
[00:16] <dnyy> err, i had vista on one partition & ubuntu on another.  instead of uninstalling ubuntu like i should have, i just deleted the partition. now, when i try to boot, it gets stuck on 'loading grub, please wait..'  is there a way to get rid of grub or what? :<
[00:16] <fde> sectech: It won't let you talk to the bot unless you're in one of the debian channels though...
[00:16] <kindofabuzz> komputes: try the nightlys
[00:16] <crunchybumble> point. i've dispowered the IDE devices, and booting solely from the SATA device, to which I've never installed windows, is booting XP. I don't know how this could have happened I didn't copy over the partition table. I copied over some of the data off of corrupted/lost ext2/3 partiitons. But I have no idea how I got windows over this install. Has anyone ever seen anything like this, and is there a way to read the partition table from w
[00:16] <ikonia> JoCo: and installing the flashplugin-nonfree package is the ONLY way you've tried to install flash. yes/no ?
[00:16] <starcannon> I've only pinned out a system once though, so I'd be terrible to walk through, maybe someone here knows how if not, thats what you want to search google for or the www.ubuntuforums.org
[00:16] <Creationist> komputes: Oh well...same issue.
[00:16] <djhash> dnyy: Boot from Vsta DVD/CD and do a repair
[00:16] <JPSman> djhash: what does the Guided slider MEAN?
[00:17] <kindofabuzz> anyone know how to browse the network using Thunar??
[00:17] <dnyy> djhash alright, thanks. :]
[00:17] <bazhang> dnyy, you plan on reinstalling ubuntu? or is this going to be windows only for you from now on
[00:17] <LadyNikon> can anyone see me?
[00:17] <ikonia> LadyNikon: sure
[00:17] <JPSman> djhash: is it the space ubuntu will use?  or what?
[00:17] <dnyy> i'm reinstalling ubuntu
[00:17] <nubbie_> dnyy: create a grub installation floppy and reinstall it. it should detect your windows installation. if I were you i would have just left grub. make sure you install grub to the MBR.
[00:17] <JoCo> ikonia, no previously when i started firefox for the first time it asked me to install the flash plugin and there were 3 options and i think I clicked the wrong one, the 3rd one down
[00:17] <darek> jest
[00:17] <ryanakca> Why is it that opening "http://www.google.com" in Firefox takes minutes, while going 'telnet google.com 80' followed by 'get index.html' takes a fraction of a second?
[00:17] <bazhang> dnyy, the reinstall will fix grub
[00:17] <darek> are you girl
[00:17] <babolat> !grub | crunchybumble
[00:18] <starcannon> yeah reinstall to fix grub is over kill, just run grub from the live cd
[00:18] <JoCo> I want to get back to that menu if thats possible
[00:18] <agro1987> help: i've downloaded the .deb and all the required .exe for msttcorefonts. Now, how do I do an offline install?
[00:18] <nubbie_> darek: does that matter?
[00:18] <ikonia> JoCo: please close all firefox windows, and in a shell do the following "sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[00:18] <bazhang> ryanakca, you have tons of rss feeds and/or extensions? that might be a factor
[00:18] <komputes> kindofabuzz: improvements in development yes, but many are buggy. Personally I had issues with FF3 and flash. check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0, many open bugs...
[00:18] <djhash> JPSman: yes.. how much of the Harddrive to use for the new OS
[00:18] <dnyy> yeah but also, when i go to reinstall, it won't resize the partition
[00:18] <crunchybumble> @ubottu, but I didn't reinstall, that's the damndest thing
[00:18] <cgentry72> I am trying to use a projector but the projector keeps saying "searching" is there anything I need to do special for it to work?
[00:18] <kindofabuzz> ryanakca: check your dns server
[00:18] <dxdt> ryanakca: there are reports floating of a new ffox bug.  For me the bug makes ffox basically useless.  You might want to try installing epiphany and seeing if that gets there quickly and stuffs.
[00:18] <cgentry72> I am using Ubuntu Hardy
[00:18] <ryanakca> bazhang: RSS feeds, no. And its only that page, the rest are fine... *looks at extensions*
[00:18] <bazhang> dnyy, just install on the partition you deleted
[00:18] <zyx386> how can i fix this error http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212483/  ?
[00:18] <dnyy> bazhang it's all one partition now :x
[00:18] <komputes> Creationist: that's really bizzare, have you thought about starting from zero, just importing bookmarks?
[00:18] <Gerinych> my num/caps/scroll lock lights don't light up in ubuntu but they do in vista
[00:19] <martiner_33> tomcat+java(JSP) anybody can help?
[00:19] <JPSman> djhash: how can I make that smaller?
[00:19] <bricenow> somebody can help me out.... how to record a cd witdh ubuntu 5.04
[00:19] <bazhang> ryanakca, that is odd, www.google.com/ncr loads fine here
[00:19] <Fishscene> lol
[00:19] <djhash> dnyy: If you are re-installing you can do Manual in partition...
[00:19] <JPSman> djhash: the smallest it goes is 50 gigs, I want to only 10
[00:19] <Creationist> komputes: That's what I've resorted to doing... just a pain because I routinely use about 20 extensions :)
[00:19] <Creationist> I'll also lose all my saved passwords.
[00:19] <Requim> Maybe this is an ignorant question, but if I run Ubuntu from the live CD, and if I make changes to the system, how does Ubuntu keep track of any changes during the session if it can't write to the Live CD? Or is it simply not possible to make any changes that require writing to the disk?
[00:19] <djhash> JPSman: Slide it down.. how small do you want the partition to be?
[00:19] <nubbie_> zyx386: you're going to need to include more information if you hope to solve that.
[00:19] <kindofabuzz> ryanakca: i bet it's your dns servers
[00:19] <bazhang> dnyy, then it will resize the partition for you and fix grub
[00:19] <dnyy> bahzang i can try, i don't know much about it ;o
[00:19] <dabbill> any one have problems with gmount in Hardy? I wont do any thing for me, doesnt even give any error messages.
[00:19] <zyx386> nubbie_, and how?
[00:19] <Creationist> Requim: Any changes you make are lost when you reboot.
[00:19] <djhash> JPSman: use the manual option
[00:20] <dnyy> ah, well ill go to it. thanks :]
[00:20] <martiner_33> clear
[00:20] <cgentry72> I am using Ubuntu Hardy
[00:20] <bazhang> dnyy, the installer will do it
[00:20] <cgentry72> I am trying to use a projector but the projector keeps saying "searching" is there anything I need to do special for it to work?
[00:20] <nubbie_> Requim: changes are written to RAM, and are therefore temporary.
[00:20] <crunchybumble> @requiem, i think it keeps it all in RAM, right?
[00:20] <komputes> ubuntu: check puttputt's 3rd post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627930
[00:20] <nubbie_> !patience | cgentry72
[00:20] <JPSman> djhash: ok going manual now.  Do I write a new partition table?  or do I mount to a partition?
[00:20] <Requim> Creationist, nubbie: OK, but what if I try to download and install a program for that session? Is it all done in RAM?
[00:20] <ubuntu> komputes: Will do
[00:20] <bricenow> i have de .ISO file of ubuntu 8.04 but today is my first day on this...
[00:20] <starcannon> Requim there are ways to save your sessions, but I haven't messed with them, sounds like you might be ready to go a step further and try a wubi install perhaps
[00:20] <djhash> cgentry72: if you have a monitor and a projector, you might need to tell ubuntu to search for new monitors in the screen resolution settings
[00:20] <Creationist> Requim: ALL done in RAM, yes.
[00:20] <babolat> cgentry72: are u doing this from a laptop?
[00:21] <cgentry72> nubbie_, sorry pressed enter by mistake
[00:21] <nubbie_> Requim: yes, as well as any swap space you have on any drives connected.
[00:21] <lmosher> Can someone help me figure out how to adjust the priority of my audio IRQ? I'm trying to make my system good 'nuf for audio processing and atm I get fuzz and blips. Someone suggested the audio IRQ priority as a place to sart.
[00:21] <martiner_33> good evening ..anybody can help my tomcat+JSP java?
[00:21] <cgentry72> babolat, yes
[00:21] <ryanakca> kindofabuzz: I doubt it, see my previous comments,  I can connect to google.com by telnet and get index.html in a fraction of a second. Firefox remains at "Waiting for google.com", unless Firefox randomly decides to use DNS servers different that the system...
[00:21] <Aruza> bazhang: followed your directions and it still didnt boot. now when i get into the shell and press ctrl-d i dont get any error message
[00:21] <mad_max02> I get an error in mplayer: Too many video packets in the buffer: (48 in 8391306 bytes). What does that mean ??
[00:21] <martiner_33> i got problem with java libraries in ubuntu 7.10
[00:21] <djhash> JPSman: first of all.. are there data on the drive you don't want to lose?
[00:21] <nubbie_> martiner_33: unless you have a problem with ubuntu you're in the wrong channel.
[00:21] <ikonia> lmosher: I don't think that sounds like an IRQ issue
[00:21] <fde> lmosher: A better place to start would be to look into jack... 'apt-cache show jackd'
[00:21] <Prez00> i am on hardy and all look great, now, using tracker i look for stuff and only get back email hits, no document hits
[00:21] <Creationist> How do I run rm on the results of find?
[00:21] <JPSman> djhash: yeah
[00:21] <kindofabuzz> ryanakca: try it in safe mode
[00:21] <lmosher> fde, I'm running jack. It was on #jack that the suggestion game :)
[00:21] <martiner_33> why in wrong channel .. this channel is about ubuntu right?
[00:22] <babolat> cgentry72: and Fn + F5 or something didnt work?
[00:22] <starcannon> Requim or maybe a thumbdrive install would be to your benefit, lets you have a bootable drive with you, and save your stuff to it.. probably about a dozen ways to skin your particular cat
[00:22] <Requim> nubbie, starcannon: So will Ubuntu automatically look for any available "swap space" and use it? Or do I have to set up something like that?
[00:22] <nubbie_> Prez00: how long have you been running hardy? it takes time for tracker to build it's databases.
[00:22] <cgentry72> babolat, that rebooted by computer for some reason
[00:22] <nubbie_> Requim: yes, it's all automatic.
[00:22] <djhash> JPSman: Do not use the installation partition.. any drive you do direct partition on you will LOSE ALL DATA...
[00:22] <kindofabuzz> ryanakca: http://forums.mozillazine.org
[00:22] <lmosher> fde, ikonia: I adjusted the sample rate and buffer size all around on jack, can't get the blips to go away. My system can definately handle audio processing, I do it a lot in vista.. trying to migrate everything over to nix
[00:22] <Prez00> nubbie_: over a day... and it seems to have all my email, just no docs
[00:22] <komputes> Creationist: the live cd can't save, if you make changes, you can make changes to your mounted hard disk files but not changes to the cd, i.e. if you install an app it is only in ram, so once you reboot it is gone
[00:22] <ubuntu> komputes: Seems a little overkill. But I guess I'll have to do it. Thanks alot for the help!
[00:22] <zyx386> can every one tell how can i fix this problem?
[00:22] <ikonia> lmosher: are you running the real-time kernel ?
[00:22] <djhash> i dont think the partitioner in ubuntu install preservesthe data
[00:23] <bazhang> Aruza, what other partitions do you have and what format are they in or just the vista one
[00:23] <nubbie_> Prez00: did you set up tracker to monitor your home directory?
[00:23] <martiner_33> nubbie_: why in wrong channel? this channel names ubuntu ..yeah?
[00:23] <Prez00> nubbie_: it's checked
[00:23] <JPSman> djhash:how do I create a new partition then?  I am not seeing the option
[00:23] <kindofabuzz> anyone know a program so i can browse my network.  i use Thunar and it doesn't have that ability
[00:23] <babolat> cgentry72: well check this -->http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78570.html tell me if u need help with it
[00:23] <Aruza> bazhang: i do have vista installed also and thats ntfs
[00:23] <Creationist> How do I delete all files found by "find?"  I tried piping rm into the find search, but that just gave a syntax error for rm.
[00:23] <komputes> Creationist: that's dangerous but use xargs. find _______ | xrags rm <options>
[00:23] <lmosher> ikonia, I was informed that if I change my /etc/security/limits.conf to allow audio applications access, it would be OK. I tested kernel 2.6.22-14-rt, but it doesn't work with my system (you might remember me, my system is fussy about the kernel.. or perhaps the other way around)
[00:23] <bazhang> Aruza, hmm that is odd
[00:23] <Requim> nubbie: So Ubuntu will automatically look for some sort of swap drive on my HD and use it without telling me? I like to know what's going on behind the scenes. :)
[00:23] <cgentry72> babolat, ok
[00:23] <bricenow> Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a38   somebody can use this ????  i just tried so much without success.....
[00:23] <ryanakca> kindofabuzz: same issue. And, Konqueror
[00:23] <Prez00> nubbie_: could it be a problem with old tracker stuff, from previous version?  should I just re-index everything?
[00:24] <komputes> ubuntu: i'm still looking and thinking of opening a bug, are you on launchpad?
[00:24] <nubbie_> Prez00: you can induce tracker to refresh it's databases from the command line... i just don't know how off the top of my head. in a terminal type "trackerd --help" and i think it may have more information for you.
[00:24] <dabbill> how can i mount ISO's in linux? Gmount doesnt seem to work in Hardy x64
[00:24] <LjL> Creationist: "find" has a -remove or -delete (not sure what it's called) option
[00:24] <djhash> Aruza: do ls /dev/disk/by-uuid and see how many entries are there
[00:24] <LjL> Creationist: otherwise, use -exec
[00:24] <ikonia> lmosher: yes, I'm stilling looking at that issue
[00:24] <lmosher> ikonia, When I ran the realtime kernel I got no audio or networking. Don't know why.. didn't fuss with it, I just rebooted P
[00:24] <zyx386> this ERROR http://pastebin.com/m16c2ef5b
[00:24] <jurek> jak
[00:24] <ikonia> lmosher: I was wrongly maybe under the impression you needed the rt kernel to use jack properly
[00:24] <ubuntu> komputes: I think so. Achoth is the nick (if I am there).
[00:24] <ere4si> !iso | dabbill
[00:24] <nubbie_> Prez00: try reindexing. if that doesn't work i don't know what will.
[00:24] <Creationist> LjL: That did it... it was -delete.  Thank you.
[00:24] <agro1987> help: i've downloaded the .deb and all the required .exe for msttcorefonts. Now, how do I do an offline install?
[00:24] <s3a> imagemagick seems to have a limit on how many pages a pdf can have for it to convert it to multiple jpegs...how can i disable this limit? cuz i have a skool book in many many pages as a pdf file and want it as jpegs so i can study on my psp
[00:24] <Y-Town> .
[00:24] <djhash> JPSman: Ok.. you want to shrink a partition and leave yourself 10Gigs for Ubuntu.. right?
[00:24] <kindofabuzz> ryanakca: i'm not gonna install another file manager just to browse the network, especially not one that starts with a K =)
[00:25] <ryanakca> kindofabuzz: as you wish
[00:25] <JPSman> djhash: yeaup :OD
[00:25] <lmosher> ikonia, I've read that before, but the #jack people said it was ok just specifically enable audio apps to adjust their own niceness
[00:25] <kindofabuzz> there's gotta be an actual program or something
[00:25] <marik> anyone got dmraid set up and working?
[00:25] <ikonia> lmosher: thats never been my understanding of it, but I'm sure the jack guys know better
[00:25] <marik> dmraid -ay doesn't produce errors for me, but it doesn't do anything either. output here: http://rafb.net/p/zqGufW93.html
[00:26] <Creationist> kbrosnan: I found the extensions.rdf files and removed them.  That did the trick... thank you!
[00:26] <JPSman> djhash: ya know what?  screw it.  I'll go with 50 gigs
[00:26] <nubbie_> s3a: I don't have the solution to your question, but i have a solution that will get you the results you want. you can use that pdf editor to split it into several files, and then use imagemagick.
[00:26] <djhash> JPSman: You can download a CD/USB image called "Parted Magic".. boot from it, and resize your partitions in the HDD just like PartitionMagic (if u've ever used it)
[00:26] <dabbill> ere4si, thanks
[00:26] <JPSman> djhash: THANK YOU for your help so far
[00:26] <ere4si> np
[00:26] <komputes> ubuntu: try to register launchpad.net, i can't find you...
[00:26] <Requim> nubbie: I mean how does Ubuntu determine what is swap space or a swap partition on my HD? Couldn't it accidentally use my Windows partition for swap space? I would like to have some control if it is going to use my HD without me knowing it.
[00:26] <Aruza> bashang and djhash: i got it working, aparently vista marks partitions if it isnt shutdown correctly and that was causing the problem, i restarted vista and shutdown and it worked
[00:27] <ubuntu> komputes: Alright
[00:27] <ikonia> Requim: you tell it to in guided/manual mode
[00:27] <djhash> Aruza:.. glad it worked..
[00:27] <djhash> works*
[00:27] <lmosher> ikonia, Any tips on getting the rt kernel up and running? i've heard it does wonders.. I'd love to use it, it just won't boot. Don't get why, it's the same version as my existing setup
[00:27] <djhash> JPSman: just make sure you dont end up losing files you need..
[00:27] <ikonia> lmosher: I've been working that through for about 6 hours now (on/off) for you
[00:27] <nubbie_> Requim: swap space is a specially formatted (or non-formatted if you want to be technical) space which ubuntu finds at boot time. you can also use "swapon /dev/hdx#" to use additional swap space.
[00:28] <nubbie_> Requim: where /dev/hdx# is a swap partition.
[00:28] <ikonia> nubbie_: technicall /dev/hdX doesn't exist anymore
[00:28] <crunchybumble> @nubbie - does that open the entire device as swap?
[00:28] <JPSman> djhash: if I go with the guided slider, then it won't erase important files right?
[00:28] <bricenow> hey people.... somebody can give me at least a web adress to find the basic steps on linux ??/
[00:28] <komputes> ubuntu: do you have specifications on the hard disk? brand, make/model
[00:28] <nubbie_> ikonia: if you use sata that is.
[00:28] <ikonia> bricenow: http://www.tldp.org
[00:28] <ikonia> nubbie_: no, if you use any harddisk
[00:29] <bricenow> thks ikonia
[00:29] <s3a> nubbie_: that might work :) thx...is the limit 200 pages?
[00:29] <lmosher> ikonia, I greatly appreciate your help there.. I think the realtime kernel is unrelated, though.. The kernel boots, but I don't get sound. The other kernels won't boot. I'm using the same version number, just -rt instead of generic.
[00:29] <ubuntu> komputes: I'm already registered, nick IS Achoth
[00:29] <marik> anyone got a raid going?
[00:29] <ikonia> nubbie_: libata referes to all disks as scsi
[00:29] <Alp`> hi there, i got a problem. i reinstalled hardy over gutsy today. and know i got a weird behaviour with maximized windows (compiz is enabled): every maximized and focused window randomly restores and maximizes again after almost each click in that window... result is a complete weirdness with constantly "moving" windows
[00:29] <nubbie_> ikonia: is that so? i thought it was just a sata tihng.
[00:29] <ikonia> marik: sure
[00:29] <stdin> there are some strange types of IDE that still shows as hdx, but it's not common
[00:29] <ikonia> nubbie_: used to be just sata, now all disk idea/sata/scsi/usb etc
[00:29] <ubuntu> komputes: Oh yes. Samsung SpinPoint 320gb
[00:29] <ikonia> stdin: only things like the old compaq controller that don't show as "disks"
[00:29] <marik> ikonia, dmraid?
[00:29] <nubbie_> s3a: i have no idea, i just know it's possible to split pdf files into several files of a set page size. then you can keep using the method you're currently using.
[00:29] <babolat> Alp`: try disabling compiz then reenabling it
[00:29] <bazhang> Aruza, okay, got a bit further-->can you check /proc/partitions
[00:29] <frogscott> hello has anyone here installed virtual box and knows which modules to install?
[00:30] <redd0t> hello
[00:30] <djhash> JPSman: the guided slider is just asking for how big you want the partition to be.. so it might re-partition the entire drive then give you what you want.. which means losing files..
[00:30] <Alp`> babolat: compiz --replace ?
[00:30] <crunchybumble> @swap space people -- you mean that it actually shows as hdX; that X wasn't a variable?
[00:30] <lmosher> ikonia, Don't worry about it I have to go for now anyway, I'll work on this issue later. It'll be here for me when I get back, heh :)
[00:30] <s3a> nubbie_: k, thx, at least u got me started for sumtin ;)
[00:30] <komputes> ubuntu: send me the url of your launchpad page so I can subscribe you
[00:30] <ikonia> marik: no, I strongly advise you not to use dmraid or "fake raid" due to poor linux support and a weak technology in general
[00:30] <ikonia> lmosher: not giving up on it
[00:30] <babolat> Alp`: nope.. just go restart it
[00:30] <starcannon> djhash doesn't gparted allow for non destructive partition resizing?
[00:30] <Alp`> babolat: how? sorry i dont know
[00:30] <marik> ikonia, and if i don't have hundreds of bucks to blow on a real raid?
[00:30] <SniZ> hi, in gnome 2.22 i see very useful improvement: transfer\copy\move window, which contains info about speed, any how many files. question: can it window write which file it copy and other infos?
[00:30] <redd0t> does anybody know of a good usb TVR that I can use with a laptop
[00:30] <ikonia> marik: software raid
[00:31] <ubuntu> komputes: https://launchpad.net/~tobias-hultgren
[00:31] <fde> bricenow: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/newtoubuntu/C/index.html <-- might be what you're looking for.
[00:31] <marik> ikonia, well i've already got fake raid working and i want to keep those partitions. (a different distribution)
[00:31] <bazhang> redd0t, hardware?
[00:31] <marik> ikonia, for some reason, the problem seems to be with ubuntu
[00:31] <ikonia> marik: thats your decision to do so
[00:31] <djhash> starcannon: I think so.. but I usually do my own partitions using Parted Magic.. i dont know how the Guided Partitioning in the ubuntu install is setup.. never used it.. lol
[00:31] <zcat[1]> don't be fooled, 'dmraid' or 'fake raid' is just software raid, with none of the advantages of proper software raid...
[00:31] <ikonia> marik: it's not with ubuntu, the technology it's self is flawed
[00:32] <redd0t> bazhang: ? i need a tvtuner for a laptop. and i need dvr capabilities and such.
[00:32] <marik> ikonia, the problem is with ubuntu when it is the only distribution it doesn't work with
[00:32] <frogscott> hello has anyone here installed virtual box and knows which modules to install?
[00:32] <yowsh2> does anyone know where i can get alsa and NOT alsa-base?
[00:32] <starcannon> djhash gparted has a livecd out as well for setting up partitions apart from the ubuntu cd
[00:32] <bazhang> redd0t, best ask in #hardware
[00:32] <yowsh2> i am trying to manually up[date my alsa stuff but i need alsa and not alsa-base
[00:32] <redd0t> bazhang: i asked here b/c i need it to be supported in linux
[00:32] <komputes> ubuntu: in that case you nick is tobias-hultgren on LP and Achoth on the wiki
[00:33] <bazhang> !hcl | redd0t  try here then #hardware
[00:33] <djhash> starcannon: Parted Magic, uses gparted with a gui.. but also it allows you to mount partitions and move files around before partitioning etc.. and it has USB boot image too..
[00:33] <starcannon> djhash anyway wasn't sure exactly what the goal is, so just thought I'd throw that out there, gparted has a nice gui thats very easy to use
[00:33] <ikonia> djhash: gparted is a gui
[00:33] <Alp`> babolat:
[00:33] <cgentry72> Ok, I have video now on the projector but everything is all over the place and bunched up
[00:33] <starcannon> djhash nice, i'm gonna dl parted magic and check it out, had only used the gparted livecd up till now
[00:33] <ubuntu> komputes: Oh, I see, I specified Achoth on the install anyways
[00:33] <Alp`> babolat: i killed compiz and started it again, no change
[00:34] <nubbie_> cgentry72: use the screens utility to set the resolution.
[00:34] <babolat> Alp`: try restarting X then
[00:34] <Sirjames> can someone help me i can not figure out how to do the cube
[00:34] <cgentry72> nubbie_, I believe i have the output is not right at all. not like the resolution is off or something
[00:34] <komputes> ubuntu: the install has nothing to do with your web accounts, ok i found the bug and a solution
[00:34] <ubuntu> komputes: *registration, not install
[00:34] <djhash> i didnt know gparted was a gui.. lol.. i just saw parted magic and people mention that it has a gui for gparted so it got me confused.. lol
[00:34] <komputes> k
[00:34] <Reck> I am looking for some simple software to make a simple website with, just HTML, a pictures, and text.  anyone know any that runs on Ubuntu or GNU/Linux
[00:34] <frogscott> hello has anyone here installed virtual box and knows which modules to install?
[00:34] <SniZ> hi, in gnome 2.22 i see very useful improvement: transfer\copy\move window, which contains info about speed, any how many files. question: can it window write which file it copy and other infos?
[00:35] <ikonia> Reck: screem
[00:35] <bazhang> aruza you need to manually mount your windows partition by mount /dev/??? /root
[00:35] <ikonia> SniZ: do you mean can it write to windows disks ?
[00:35] <Reck> Thanks!
[00:35] <Reck> ikonia, thanks!
[00:35] <ubuntu> komputes: So what's the solution?
[00:35] <ikonia> Reck: no problem
[00:35] <SniZ> ikonia, no, info while i copy\move\deleting something
[00:36] <ikonia> SniZ: it has a status bar
[00:36] <starcannon> Sirjames you'll need to install advanced desktop settings from synaptics, then look around through its menu's its pretty straight forward, you'll need 4 desktops setup instead of the default 2 (just right click on the desktop switcher and bump it up to 4)
[00:36] <djhash> JSPman: Any form of partitioning has risks in it... you might get a power surge during it and loose the HDD.. etc.. kinda like surgery there is always a risk even though minimal.. The guided partition might not remove your data.. but its always better to be safe than sorry
[00:36] <ikonia> Sirjames: install the package "ccsm" it's a very easy tool to use
[00:36] <_polto_> liblivemedia is ultra out of date on ubuntu :(
[00:36] <bazhang> !ccsm | Sirjames
[00:36] <SniZ> yes, i know. but it only write speed, how many files arrived
[00:36] <munoz321> hi all
[00:36] <ikonia>  SniZ what info do you want ?
[00:36] <SniZ> i wanna see which file it copy ^)
[00:37] <ikonia> SniZ: currently I don't think it does that
[00:37] <SniZ> not only progress
[00:37] <LadyNikon> so i just found out
[00:37] <LadyNikon> I dont have a cd drive
[00:37] <babolat> Alp`: workeD?
[00:37] <LadyNikon> bleh
[00:37] <komputes> ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/96976
[00:37] <ikonia> !install |ladynikon
[00:37] <nubbie_> ikonia: it's not actually called ccsm in repositories, it's called something like compizconfiguration-settings-manager
[00:37] <ikonia> nubbie_: searching for ccsm shows it
[00:37] <babolat> Alp`: did it work?
[00:37] <marik> ikonia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/136804
[00:37] <LadyNikon> well.. i guess i dont have to ask my question now
[00:38] <LadyNikon> thanks ikonia
[00:38] <fde> SniZ: gvfs is still young, the current implementation is more a proof of concept and has most functionality supported, and you can expect more polish in later releases
[00:38] <komputes> ubottu: also you should change you irc nick to Achoth so ppl can talk to you...
[00:38] <ubuntu> komputes: Nice, thanks
[00:38] <ikonia> marik: and?
[00:38] <bazhang> ubuntu-telepathy ;]
[00:38] <SniZ> fde, tnx
[00:38] <end-user> I just downgraded to Firefox 2, and now ubuntu isn't calling Firefox for links, for example, in email. Any ideas?
[00:38] <Alp`> babolat: no, i got a crash instead
[00:38] <marik> ikonia, that's my bug. works fine in fedora 9, knoppix, gentoo, but ubtuntu: no go
[00:39] <babolat> Alp`: crash? how so
[00:39] <Alp`> babolat: did you write anything?
[00:39] <Exteris> end-user, preferred applications
[00:39] <ikonia> marik: look at the kernel versions
[00:39] <ikonia> marik: it's not an ubuntu version
[00:39] <MagoonD> whats the best way for copying my gutsy system from an ibm laptop to a dell laptop?
[00:39] <komputes> ubuntu: next time you see me, let me know if the workarround works...
[00:39] <babolat> Alp`: not really..
[00:39] <marik> ikonia, i'm sorry?
[00:39] <end-user> Exteris: Thank you! But Firefox is no longer listed there. The drop down list only has "custom" in it
[00:39] <ikonia> marik: the bug is with the kernel
[00:39] <Alp`> babolat: i clicked on a channel in konversation when suddenly the login screen appeared...
[00:39] <fde> SniZ: Gnome has time based releases, so they were trying to rush out the first version in time for feature freeze, rather than making it better for the end user I'm afraid.
[00:39] <ikonia> marik: look at the versions fedora 9 are using
[00:39] <nubbie_> MagoonD: install ubuntu on the new laptop and copy over your /home directory.
[00:39] <Exteris> end-user, use custom then, with firefox
[00:39] <ajonat> MagoonD, clone the system?
[00:39] <SniZ> fde, tnx
[00:39] <ubuntu> komputes: Will do!
[00:40] <nubbie_> ajonat: that would not be wise.
[00:40] <MagoonD> ajonat, no i think nubbie_ has the right idea
[00:40] <babolat> Alp`: i dont think that had anything to do with what we were doing..
[00:40] <ubuntu> komputes: Thanks again for the help
[00:40] <MagoonD> nubbie_, just the /home directory nothing else?
[00:40] <user___> If I set ubuntu up to be a thin client server, can my clients connect to it w/o it being the dhcp server?
[00:40] <end-user> Exteris: Custom is selected, with the command firefox -new-tab "%s"
[00:40] <marik> well it works in 2.6.23 and 2.6.24 in other distros.  i'm on the hardy livecd right now, which is 2.6.24, and it doesn't work
[00:40] <Alp`> babolat: me neither. i'm trying to ignore it :)
[00:40] <komputes> ubuntu: or you can post your result to that bug, i'll subscibe...
[00:40] <ikonia> marik: which 2.6.23 distro ?
[00:40] <marik> gentoo
[00:40] <nubbie_> MagoonD: /home has all of your information. when you install ubuntu create a separate partition for your /home folder.
[00:40] <ikonia> marik: quite heavily patched
[00:40] <babolat> Alp`: did u get my msg when i said try restarting X?
[00:41] <Exteris> end-user, that should work
[00:41] <MagoonD> nubbie_, ok
[00:41] <Alp`> babolat: no, i could test that now
[00:41] <Alp`> just a sec
[00:41] <babolat> Alp`: yes pls
[00:41] <nubbie_> MagoonD: there is also a program which will make a list of all packages installed. you can then use that list to create an identical system.
[00:41] <ikonia> marik: you can always add your information/details to the bug report to help get it fixed
[00:41] <ikonia> marik: the more info the better
[00:41] <MagoonD> nubbie_, any chance you know the name of that package?
[00:41] <ubuntu> komputes: Yeah, I'll post in that thread when I've fixed the problem/failed
[00:41] <ksoviero> is there a way to burn a cd in 2 drives simultaniously?
[00:42] <end-user> Exteris: Hmm...well it isn't working. Is there anyway to make Ubuntu rebuild the list of applications for preferred applications?
[00:42] <ikonia> ksoviero: not really
[00:42] <bazhang> ksoviero, a single cd?
[00:42] <komputes> ubuntu: thx
[00:42] <wotten>      /msg nickserv register mack0822
[00:42] <ajonat> !
[00:42] <ikonia> ksoviero: 2 cd's burning at once cause issues
[00:42] <Exteris> end-user, dunno about that
[00:42] <nubbie_> MagoonD: not off the top of my head no.
[00:42] <ksoviero> no, 2 cds at once in 2 different drives
[00:42] <zChris> wotten: akward!
[00:42] <MagoonD> nubbie_, ok thx for ur help
[00:42] <bazhang> ksoviero, likely not
[00:42] <nubbie_> MagoonD: no problem.
[00:42] <ksoviero> oh well
[00:42] <ajonat> MagoonD, nubbie_, remastersys?
[00:42] <nubbie_> ajonat: yes?
[00:43] <MagoonD> ajonat, yes
[00:43] <ajonat> nubbie_, the name of the program
[00:43] <nubbie_> ajonat: oh lol, i'm not sure.
[00:43] <silas428> what is a good chatroom for networking?
[00:43] <ikonia> silas428: #networking
[00:43] <user___> ##networking
[00:43] <silas428> thnx
[00:43] <user___> How does one create an ubuntu thin client boot cd
[00:44] <nubbie_> user___: you could set up a server and netboot.
[00:44] <user___> I know how to do PXE boot but the pc in question does not support this
[00:45] <ikonia> user___: you'd have to make your own bootcd, basiclly containing the info you want to boot - and thats it, but as it's a think client you'd be better with netbooting
[00:45] <ksoviero> raise your hand is you have heard of a company called system76?
[00:45] <ikonia> ksoviero: offtopic for this channel
[00:45] <ksoviero> no, i was wondering is anyone had one?
[00:45] <ikonia> ksoviero: offtopic for this channel
[00:45] <ikonia> yes
[00:45] <zyx386> how can i fix this fehler http://pastebin.com/m7e6d448b
[00:45] <zyx386> ??
[00:45] <ksoviero> ok, sorry
[00:45] <ikonia> ksoviero: thanks
[00:45] <nubbie_> user___: i'm sure there are some very small linux distributions which could netboot regardless of whether or not your motherboard supports it.
[00:46] <user___> ikonia: nubbie_ ok, I'll be honest. The reason I can't do it is because I don't have the ability to make the central pc a dhcp router, so basically I need a decent way around that issue
[00:46] <ikonia> user___: do a minimal install
[00:46] <ikonia> user___: rather than booting it
[00:46] <nubbie_> user___: what problems are you having with DHCP?
[00:46] <zyx386> everyone help???????+
[00:47] <nubbie_> user___: perhaps somebody could help you solve the DHCP issue.
[00:47] <ikonia> !patience | zyx386
[00:47] <ikonia> nubbie_: happy to
[00:47] <djhash> zyx386: missed your problem.. whats ur problem?
[00:47] <Alp`> hmmm
[00:47] <user___> nubbie_: not unless they can insert an extra nic card in my pc and run ehternet wires in my house :)
[00:47] <bazhang> zyx386, what is pygame
[00:48] <zyx386> djhash, that is http://pastebin.com/m7e6d448b
[00:48] <ksoviero> is there a "talk about anything" area?
[00:48] <Alp`> babolat: no change
[00:48] <user___> I just need a way of telling my PC to load a netboot image from a desktop pc rather than expecting a dhcp response
[00:48] <bazhang> !ot | ksoviero
[00:48] <ikonia> user if your not on a lan, how do you expect to use a thin client ?
[00:48] <babola1> Alp`: got disconnected
[00:48] <zyx386> bazhang,  is with this software "svn2swf" screerecording
[00:48] <nubbie_> ikonia: an interesting and valid question :P
[00:48] <Alp`> babola1: no change, didnt work
[00:49] <bazhang> !screencast | zyx386  try these
[00:49] <babola1> Alp`: one momenty
[00:49] <crunchybumble> wait. so hollup. it takes xp 10 gigs to install, and ubuntu can run off the live disk in RAM
[00:49] <crunchybumble> wtf mate?
[00:49] <user___> ikonia: I'm on a lan but my ltsp-server isn't the dhcp server, it is simply another client
[00:49] <djhash> zyx386: have you setup a password for the computer ur VNCing to?
[00:49] <ikonia> !wtf | crunchybumble
[00:49] <nubbie_> crunchybumble: yeah basically.
[00:49] <ikonia> user___: it dosn't have to be "the" dhcp server, any box can be a dhcp server
[00:49] <xbj9000> if I have kubuntu, and want to also add xfce/xubuntu, what is the best way?
[00:49] <ikonia> user___: it just needs a valid ip
[00:49] <user___> ikonia: oh
[00:49] <zcat[1]> xp needs 10 gigs? I'm sure I've installed it in 4 or less
[00:50] <zyx386> bazhang, that is not new for me
[00:50] <nubbie_> crunchybumble: it's because linux programs use library linking instead of building the libraries into each program.
[00:50] <babola1> Alp`: u there?
[00:50] <zcat[1]> vista probably needs 10 gigs
[00:50] <albuntu> xbj9000: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:50] <user___> well, in that case, how does it figure out where to load the image from, does it just check all connected computers?
[00:50] <zyx386> djhash, what you mean?
[00:50] <Alp`> babola1 yes
[00:50] <bazhang> xbj9000, install the desktop xubuntu or kubuntu-
[00:50] <xbj9000> thanks albuntu
[00:50] <nubbie_> xbj9000: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:50] <babola1> Alp`: go to System -> Preference -> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings -> General Options -> Display Settings
[00:50] <crunchybumble> @nubbie. I thought thats what .DLLs were
[00:50] <marik> ikonia, all info i have is nearly duplicate of the info that's there. i would just be wasting their time making them read it. the configurations are the same.
[00:50] <ikonia> user___: you have a pxe server offering the boot image (which acts as a boot server), but you use the dhcp info to assign an address and point at the pxe server
[00:50] <ikonia> marik: no problem
[00:50] <djhash> zyx386: try to vncviewer to the computer you're trying to vnc2swf to...
[00:51] <nubbie_> crunchybumble: you're right, except i believe many windows executables build the DLLS into the exe itself.
[00:51] <Alp`> babola1: ok i'm there
[00:51] <zcat[1]> PXE booting requires a DHCP server.. and the DHCP server tells it what binary to load as well as things like IP and DNS addresses
[00:51] <babola1> Alp`: Uncheck "Detect Outputs"
[00:51] <user___> ikonia: hmmm, ok
[00:51] <Alp`> babola1: it's already unchecked
[00:51] <babola1> Alp`: it was *already* unchecked or u have unchecked it?
[00:52] <zyx386> djhash, i ihave no vncviewr
[00:52] <babola1> Alp`: it was *already* unchecked or u have just unchecked it now?
[00:52] <sevillian> a
[00:52] <jaffarkelshac> does anyone know of citrus, the alarm program for windoze, is there seomthing similar for ubuntu
[00:53] <nubbie_> jaffarkelshac: cron
[00:53] <babola1> Alp`: u there? crash again?
[00:53] <djhash> zyx386: stupid question: do you have a vnc server installed on the computer you are trying to connect to?
[00:53] <sevillian> ds
[00:53] <ikonia> jaffarkelshac: it's called "windows" please show it the respect by calling it by it's proper name
[00:53] <nubbie_> jaffarkelshac: you can also set up alerts in evolution.
[00:53] <Sirjames> were in synaptics do i find advanced desktop setting
[00:53] <bazhang> english please sevillian
[00:53] <ikonia> Sirjames: thats not in synaptic
[00:53] <jaffarkelshac> i can call it what i want
[00:53] <scottwebber> i had made changed to xorg earlier and it stated that a backup was made. Where is this backup and how do i restore it?
[00:54] <ikonia> Sirjames: thats in systme --> prefernces
[00:54] <Alp`> babola1: yes, again :(
[00:54] <Alp`> babola1: ubuntu hardy seems to be more unstable
[00:54] <babola1> Alp`: it was *already* unchecked or u have just unchecked it now?
[00:54] <babola1> Alp`: not from where i am ;)
[00:54] <nubbie_> jaffarkelshac: type this in: /msg ubottu etiquette, and then leave the channel if you choose not to obey the rules.
[00:54] <jaffarkelshac> nubbie_: i forgot, i can use cron to execute a audio file, cheers
[00:54] <Sirjames> i got to install it first right now i don't have it
[00:54] <Alp`> babola1: already unchecked, couldnt make a change
[00:54] <zyx386> djhash, if you dont understand the Q, dont answer plz, i say vnc2swf is screenrecording program not vncviewr, also
[00:54] <jaffarkelshac> stop making fuzz ok
[00:55] <babola1> Alp`: ok.. what's your screen resolution set to right now?
[00:55] <crunchybumble> @jaffarkel**** that's my alarm clock, dude
[00:55] <ikonia> djhash: a google search shows it as a player as you suggeted also
[00:55] <zcat[1]> scottwebber: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 or similar.. you just copy it back to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:55] <sevillian> ahmad' :are you there?
[00:55] <ikonia> jaffarkelshac: please, just show things respect
[00:55] <Alp`> babola1: i have 2 outputs, because of dual screen twinview. overall resolution is 3200x1200
[00:55] <bazhang> zyx386, please be polite
[00:55] <djhash> zyx386: vnc2swf is a recording tool to record VNC connection sessions.. you need VNC to use vnc2swf
[00:55] <scottwebber> zcat[1], thank you so much :)
[00:55] <babola1> Alp`: do they have different resolutions?
[00:55] <nubbie_> jaffarkelshac: free speech does not apply in this channel. follow the rules.
[00:55] <Bodsda> calm down guys
[00:56] <bazhang> Bodsda, ;]
[00:56] <Alp`> babola1: no, two similar monitors
[00:56] <Bodsda> bazhang, takin after you dude ;~)
[00:56] <djhash> zyx386: atleast a VNC server should be used on the computer you are connecting to.. even if it is the same computer you wan to record..
[00:56] <babola1> Alp`: what's Outputs showing?
[00:56] <gaten> anyone using hardy having trouble with firefox crashing *alot* when flash is present on a page?
[00:57] <nubbie_> gaten: "meeee!!!"
[00:57] <ikonia> gaten: various people have reported that
[00:57] <babola1> gaten: YES
[00:57] <Alp`> babola1: 1600x1200+0+0 and 1600x1200+1600+0
[00:57] <bazhang> gaten yes is an adobe bug see this-->http://markusthielmann.com/blog/defusing_one_most_annoying_bugs_ubuntu_hardy_heron_stop_flash_killing_firefox
[00:57] <nubbie_> gaten: provide us with solution to problem NAOW! heheh jk
[00:57] <babola1> Alp`: and Detect Outputes is *unchecked* ?
[00:57] <Alp`> babola1: yes it is
[00:57] <gaten> nubbie_, use opera
[00:57] <Wannabe> any one know why i can only get a 16 kb dl rate...? usually it's 600
[00:58] <Wannabe> on apt-get
[00:58] <nubbie_> gaten: opera is a dirty pos imo.
[00:58] <babola1> Alp`: try setting your monitors to 1600x1200 both
[00:58] <ikonia> Wannabe: busy repo
[00:58] <bazhang> Wannabe, security repo?
[00:58] <djhash> ikonia: they should've called it vnc2swfandviewer lol
[00:58] <zcat[1]> weird fault here; mobo boots up, does POST, detects drives.. but just won't boot. BIOS settings are correct, it won't boot from cdrom, I even swapped drives for a known good one..
[00:58] <Wannabe> ikonia, any way to fix?
[00:58] <ikonia> zcat[1]: not ubuntu
[00:58] <zcat[1]> true
[00:58] <nubbie_> zcat[1]: wow. that sucks.
[00:58] <ikonia> Wannabe: swap mirrors
[00:58] <ffm> Hey, anyone know how to convert a plain, formatted text PDF to DJVU?
[00:58] <ikonia> Wannabe: wait until it's less busy
[00:58] <Alp`> babola1: i dont understand, they already are both on 1600x1200.. as i said above. or didnt i get the point?
[00:59] <Wannabe> ikonia, still leaning, how do i swap the mirrors
[00:59] <ikonia> Wannabe: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to another ubuntu mirror
[00:59] <nubbie_> Wannabe: you can also use the GUI in synaptic.
[00:59] <Wannabe> nubbie_, i'll try your idea one sec
[01:00] <babola1> Alp`: oh ok.. i misunderstood.. as far as i can see you've gotten it right already.. question: have u rebooted since enabling compiz?
[01:00] <gaten> nubbie_, it has a lot of problems, but so does ff. i just wish they would open source it
[01:00] <adred> hi all.. i messed up with my session settings. i just wanted to configure it because apps i autostart themselves each time i log in. now i cant access my desktop.i cant even right click on it. my wallpaper didn't load..help pls...
[01:00] <djhash> anyone having splash screen problem where the screen shows "cannot display resolution".. my menu.lst is set for vga=794 which is 1280x1024 which my screen can handle.. desktop views fine on that resolution..
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Alp` I didnt think effects would run on dual monitors at that res for both.
[01:01] <Alp`> babola1: i did one time
[01:01] <Wannabe> nubbie_,  i
[01:01] <Flip2405> Is h00k here
[01:01] <Alp`> Jack_Sparrow: i used the same config in 7.10 before, it worked ok
[01:01] <babola1> Alp`: what gfx card do u have?
[01:01] <gaten> so was the firefox abode bug known before they released hardy?
[01:01] <Wannabe> nubbie_,  i'm tryng to get build-dep wine how would i get that in synaptic
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Alp` at that res?  good to know.  That must be approaching max compiz can do
[01:01] <bazhang> gaten,  recent adobe 'fix'
[01:01] <Alp`> babola1: nvidia gforce 8800gts
[01:01] <Flip2405> h00k
[01:02] <adred> hi all.. i messed up with my session settings. i just wanted to configure it because apps autostart themselves each time i log in. now i cant access my desktop.i cant even right click on it. my wallpaper didn't load..help pls...
[01:02] <doug_> LadyNikon: you ready for the nvidia drivers?
[01:02] <bazhang> Flip2405, /msg h00k  hi
[01:02] <zChris> adred: dosent it make a new one if you delete the settings?
[01:02] <SeaPhor> Alp`, nice card ;-)
[01:02] <Alp`> Jack_Sparrow: yes, it's working fine. but that maximized windows problem is weird
[01:02] <nubbie_> Wannabe: do it in terminal: "sudo apt-get install build-dep wine
[01:02] <babola1> Alp`: should have no prob.. try sliding down your resolutions
[01:02] <gaten> bazhang, ahh i see. unfortunate timing
[01:02] <adred> zChris which settings?
[01:02] <nubbie_> Wannabe: that was wrong
[01:02] <Sirjames> i do i get the cube
[01:03] <zChris> adred: WindowsManager settings? :P
[01:03] <nubbie_> Wannabe: " sudo apt-get build-dep wine" there you go.
[01:03] <harksaw> When I start up the program "nzb" I get the message saying "unable to load unix openssl". I have openssl installed, does anyone know why I get this message and why I'm unable to make SSL connections?
[01:03] <Wannabe> nubbie_,  i did but my transfer is at 20  kb
[01:03] <adred> zChris how do i do that?
[01:03] <bazhang> Sirjames, in ccsm
[01:03] <Flip2405> zzzz can some one help me with my sound i have noo clue what is going on it just sudenly stoped working it stoll works on some things others it dont
[01:03] <adamb> Anyone seem to help me, having weird problems, I tryt i ping a host, and it hangs for 5-6 seconds, then it will reply once, then 5-6 seconds, it will reply again. but if I do a host/dig, it resolves instantly. No I can't seem to connect to a spefici host via ssh, but in vmware under windows I can connect fine.  so strange network problems.  Anyone have an idea on what this could be?
[01:03] <Alp`> SeaPhor: that's a nice story... got a 7800, which got broken after some months and then i got a 8800 as replacement. couldnt say no :)
[01:03] <LadyNikon> doug_: no.. i forgot that box has no cd driver
[01:03] <LadyNikon> and i got a research paper to write.. so i will have to do it later
[01:03] <LadyNikon> thanks
[01:03] <adred> zChris: in the compiz manager?
[01:04] <nubbie_> Wannabe: then get a faster internet connection.
[01:04] <Wannabe> nubbie_, lol, it's not my i net.
[01:04] <Flip2405> zzzz can some one help me with my sound i have noo clue what is going on it just sudenly stoped working it stoll works on some things others it dont
[01:04] <jit> hi I cant find the /etc/default/pcmcia file im trying to install iburst driver thanks
[01:04] <doug_> LadyNikon: join me in room #ladynikon please for a min.
[01:04] <adred> zChris: what do you mean? sorry i dont get you..
[01:05] <SeaPhor> Alp`, sweet!! how do I break my 8600?
[01:05] <Alp`> SeaPhor: praying or a huge hammer
[01:05] <kitsuneofdoom> Rhythymbox won't play my ogg vorbis files anymore. It asks for the right codec. Just installed 8.04
[01:06] <cgentry72> my mouse stopped working today. after making changes to my resolution.  i can't fix it. can someone help.
[01:07] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: if you double click the ogg file in nautilus does it try to install the codec?
[01:07] <babola1> Alp`: try what post number 2 here says -->http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5144
[01:07] <frederific> I'm using 8.04 with compiz fusion. Somewhere in the compiz advanced config, I managed to set it to minimise all windows if I put my mouse in the bottom-right corner. However, now I can't find an option to deactivate this, any ideas?
[01:08] <harksaw> Actually it says "SSLFilter: unable to load unix openssl"
[01:08] <nubbie_> frederific: revert to default settings in compiz?
[01:08] <jit> HI just installed 8.04 and trying to configure iburst wireless modem, but I cant find the file /etc/default/pcmcia please help thanks
[01:08] <gaten> everytime i restart my computer, X goes into "low res mode", where the resolution is 648x480 and cannot be changed, and my nVidia Server Settings seems to think i don't have an nvidia driver installed. im using the binary drivers from nvidias sight, and i have to reinstall them after each reboot. any suggestions?
[01:08] <nubbie_> frederific: there is also another, simpler compiz configuration manager which displays visually what is connected to each screen edge.
[01:08] <babola1> frederific: ccsm should have a serch function that includes keywords for descriptions, function names and shortcuts
[01:09] <ikonia> gaten: use the restricted drivers provided by ubuntu
[01:09] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^ tries to install the "bad" or "ugly" I forget. vorbis isn't in those. Plus it's already installed
[01:09] <adamb> Anyone seem to help me, having weird problems, I try to ping a host, and it hangs for 5-6 seconds, then it will reply once, then 5-6 seconds, it will reply again. but if I do a host/dig, it resolves instantly. Now I can't seem to connect to a spefici host via ssh, but in vmware under windows I can connect fine.  so strange network problems.  Anyone have an idea on what this could be?
[01:09] <starcannon> gaten add "nvidia" without the quotes to your /etc/modules list
[01:09] <cgentry72> my mouse stopped working today. after making changes to my resolution.  i can't fix it. can someone help.
[01:09] <ikonia> gaten: why did you install the drivers from nvidia.com ?
[01:09] <bazhang> gaten what about gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[01:09] <gaten> ikonia, i cant, i get no picture on boot, only sound
[01:09] <SeaPhor> gaten, try not using the site drvr, use the restricted drv in synaptic
[01:09] <gaten> ikonia, with those drivers
[01:09] <jit> anyone know about pcmcia in 8.04??
[01:09] <nubbie_> sounds like somebody's video card is broken...
[01:10] <frederific> babola1: Thanks. I've already tried that with a couple of relavent keywords, but I couldn't seem to find it...
[01:10] <Flip2405> can some one help me i am haveing a sound issue like it wont let me hear my music or anything but when i use whine to play games and shit it seems to work but useing pidgen or frostwire or any thing in that nature it dosnt work
[01:10] <Flip2405> I am willing to be vnced to
[01:10] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: you might be missing some gstreamer stuff - I'd double click and let it do its' thing
[01:10] <nubbie_> Flip2405: you need to use winecfg to use mixing.
[01:10] <bazhang> !ohmy | Flip2405
[01:10] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: I did, it keeps asking
[01:10] <Alp`> babola1: i dont have that line because i'm using twinview instead of xinerama
[01:10] <gaten> starcannon, that sounds reasonable, ill try that thanks
[01:10] <beasty> mm
[01:10] <frederific> nubbie_: Ahha, why didn't I think of resetting to defaults? :) Where can I find this alternative config, is it just that desktop effects tab of Sys/Prefs/Appearance?
[01:10] <beasty> where is pykdeconfig.py ?
[01:10] <beasty> :p
[01:11] <beasty> in hardy ?
[01:11] <bitmouse> anybody have any experience with a minimal install??
[01:11] <starcannon> gaten any time, I use Nvidia cards alot, its a part of their driver install that has never been fixed, it should add it there by default I think, but it don't
[01:11] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: now it says "no package availiable"
[01:11] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: it's just ogg vorbis
[01:11] <bitmouse> anybody have any experience with a minimal install??
[01:11] <^u^> !ogg
[01:12] <Flip2405> nubbie no no my sound works inside wine
[01:12] <klutch240> can anyone help me figure out how to set up my wireless card.  Brand new to ubuntu.
[01:12] <gaten> starcannon, how annoying. did the ubuntu supported drivers work for you at all? i get no picture just sound on X boot, they have never worked for me (feisty, gusty or hardy)
[01:12] <nubbie_> Flip2405: that doesn't matter.
[01:12] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: but ogg vorbis isn't a restricted codec
[01:12] <bazhang> !wifi | klutch240
[01:12] <sevillian> hello
[01:12] <nubbie_> Flip2405: if wine isn't using mixing, it takes control of the sound device so no other program can use it.
[01:12] <Flip2405> My sound dont work outside of it
[01:12] <starcannon> bitmouse I'm doing my very first minimal install while i'm hangin out here, so far the only thing thats hard is my connection times out about every 3 packages and I have to click retry
[01:12] <Flip2405> oh
[01:12] <Flip2405> okay
[01:12] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: it worked until excatly when I upgraded to 8.04
[01:13] <klutch240> ubotto  thnx
[01:13] <jit> anybody have any experience with pcmcia??
[01:13] <mohamed_> how to enable sound for more than application at the same time, e.g e.g i can hear songs and chat alert at the same time ?
[01:13] <sevillian> how could i run movie  on ubuntu? which program i can by?
[01:13] <bitmouse> starcannon why is your text oranage?
[01:13] <churchill> i have a dlink g510 with (apparently) ralink rt61 chipset.. how can I use ndiswrraper to install drivers and use the damned card ?
[01:13] <bitmouse> sevillian get gxine
[01:13] <ricanelite> is there a application where I could compress my video file?
[01:13] <bazhang> sevillian, no need to buy ;]
[01:13] <starcannon> gaten, the ubuntu restricted drivers worked for me in gutsy, but I updated them anyway, I like to have the latest that nvidia has to offer, so I end up just killing the default ones an manually installing the NVIDIA*.run ones from their site
[01:13] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: yeh upgrades can bork stuff sometimes and from the link ogg isn't so free...
[01:13] <gaten> starcannon, ahh k
[01:13] <^u^> !ogg | kitsuneofdoom
[01:13] <Flip2405> nubbie mind if i pm
[01:13] <ricanelite> i use gtk-recordmydesktop and the size is 40mb and I will like to resize the file size to something smaller
[01:14] <nubbie_> !sound | Flip2405
[01:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> ogg...  not free?
[01:14] <starcannon> gaten I never even bothered with the default ones in hardy, just went straight to nvidia.com and grabbed them. I have done so many nvidia card installs it only takes me 10 minutes now, including downloading the build essentials package
[01:14] <Flip2405> nubbie mind if i pm
[01:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> what world are you living in, just out of curiosity
[01:14] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: I looked at those links and it has no helpful information
[01:14] <crunchybumble> that fix for the flash crash on hardy is awesome
[01:15] <nubbie_> Flip2405: i would prefer you didn't, as any information between us should be available for the channel as a whole to use.
[01:15] <crunchybumble> btw, you volunteer folk rock
[01:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Flip2405, please keep questions in the channel, that way the person you're talking to doesn't feel pressured, and also so others can answer.
[01:15] <gaten> starcannon, i prefer nvidia's drivers, but it annoys me that the default ubuntu ones don't work for me
 could it play media like which run on mediaplayer in windows?
[01:15] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: I'll get an ogg file from my server and check here - give me a min
[01:15] <ToxicDrag> I'm curious, im planning on buildin a 64 bit computer, how is Ubuntu's 64 bit support?
[01:16] <Belboz93> Hey all, I'm not seeing a recently compiled module listed as available, I've compiled and installed it correctly, but I cannot load it because modprobe returns that it doesn't exist
[01:16] <starcannon> gaten in hardy I had read on the forums that unchecking them in the restricted driver manager then rechecking them, then rebooting will get them going, but I could download and install the latest ones in about the same amount of time ;P
[01:16] <wolfmanz> anyone know how i can see the boot messages you see when the hard drive does that scan disk thing before boot up is there a log that stores these messages after each bootup?
[01:16] <Flip2405> Nubbie its kinda personal
[01:16] <bazhang> Flip2405, he said no
[01:16] <kitsuneofdoom> Since I upgraded to 8.04, my ogg vorbis collection stopped working in rhythymbox and tootem. Rhythymbox asks for the codec. I have all gstreamer codecs installed. Audacious works, but I like Rhythymbox.
[01:17] <cgentry72> my mouse stopped working after changing my resolution. i changed my resolution back but it still doesn't work.
[01:17] <starcannon> gaten I put together a guide in a text file if you want it. its to big to post here it would flood, but i can mail it or post it in a private channel real quick
[01:17] <mikeooooo> anyone dualbooting ubuntu, xp, vista on a raid 1 drive  array partitioned for the os's?
[01:17] <Belboz93> cgentry72: check your Xorg.conf
[01:17] <gaten> starcannon, have at it
[01:17] <amenado> cgentry72-> do you still have a copy of the older xor.conf ? compare the two
[01:17] <frederific> starcannon: you could pastebin it...
[01:17] <cgentry72> Belboz93, what do i look for?
 O the movie is just rin sound not the film it self?
[01:17] <crunchybumble> belboz93 what should you be lookin' for
[01:17] <amenado> cgentry72-> do you still have a copy of the older xorg.conf ? compare the two
[01:18] <gaten> frederific: no! its all mine!
[01:18] <TalibJayid> what is the root password for live 8.04 by handy?
[01:18] <Flip2405> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz well i dont know how to set wine up on a mixer
[01:18] <cgentry72> amenado, i restored it and it still doesnt work
[01:18] <starcannon> frederific i'll do that, brb with the link
[01:18] <Belboz93> cgentry72: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for mouse drivers and configurations, it might be easier to just reconfigure xserver though
[01:18] <amenado> cgentry72-> are you sure you restored from the old working one?
[01:18] <xim> when ever i get notifications from programs, i use a dark theme, and they come up bright yellow with white text impossible to read, is there any way to change that, a stylesheet maybe?
[01:18] <Belboz93> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:19] <cgentry72> amenado, i cut and pasted it into the oringinal cause i didn't know how else to do it
[01:19] <amenado> TalibJayid-> no such thing..you just do  a sodu -s
[01:19] <TalibJayid> you mean sudo?
[01:19] <amenado> cgentry72-> well thats not restoring from original then
[01:19] <Belboz93> cgentry72: that can cause a lot of problems
[01:19] <frederific> starcannon/gaten: (I don't need the guide, I just thought the pastebin seemed the right place to throw it)
[01:19] <genii> !root | TalibJayid
[01:19] <amenado> TalibJayid-> yes
[01:19] <cgentry72> urrrggh i'm not sure how then
[01:19] <wolfmanz> anyone know how i can see the boot messages you see when the hard drive does that scan disk thing before boot up is there a log that stores these messages after each bootup?
[01:19] <amenado> TalibJayid-> im typing with my thumbs..hehe
[01:19] <TalibJayid> k thx
[01:20] <crunchybumble> i bent the root password with my mind
[01:20] <amenado> wolfmanz-> fsck events are not log-able from what i understood
[01:20] <starcannon> gaten heres the guide http://pastebin.com/f4d1facb2
[01:20] <cgentry72> amenado, how do i restore it? sorry
[01:20] <amenado> cgentry72-> you can only restore if you had kept the original
[01:20] <raket> hey people! how much space should I leave for Kubuntu, since I want to move my /home directory on another partition
[01:20] <Belboz93> cgentry72: you'll need to get to a command line, like Ctrl+Alt+F1, (Ctrl+Alt+F7 should be the GUI), and run:
[01:20] <Belboz93> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <wolfmanz> ok thanks
[01:21] <crunchybumble> well, if you were using a versioning file system...
[01:21] <crunchybumble> but that would be VMS
[01:21] <cgentry72> Belboz93, i have that
[01:21] <ricanelite> how can i convert a .ogg file into a avi or mpg
[01:21] <Ecclesiastes> Has this patch been applied to the pata_artop module : http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-08/msg04132.html  ?
[01:21] <gaten> starcannon:  thanks
[01:21] <starcannon> gaten don't skip steps even if you think you've already done them in the past, follow it completely and you'll be rewarded with an Nvidia splash screen and full direct rendering support
[01:21] <TalibJayid> amenado: sudo -s ﻿mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force does not work
[01:21] <starcannon> gaten any time
[01:21] <TalibJayid> it says cannot execute binary file
[01:22] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: rbox plays the oggs here...
[01:22] <amenado> TalibJayid-> you just have to sudo -s first then you can issue the mount
[01:22] <amenado> separately
[01:22] <sevillian> how can i fix the vedio card?
[01:22] <cgentry72> Belboz93, sorry can you repeat the last step, no mouse to move up
[01:23] <amenado> TalibJayid-> and being in livecd, you have to have the mount point readily available to mount it on, if it does not exist you'll get an error
[01:23] <Belboz93> cgentry72: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:23] <raket> hey people! how much space should I leave for Kubuntu, since I want to move my /home directory on another partition? would 5GB be enough?
[01:24] <nubbie_> raket: do you already have ubuntu installed?
[01:24] <sevillian> how can i fix the vedio card?
[01:25] <styles> Hey
[01:25] <bpat1434> If my hard-disk is "turned off" would that stop my display from coming back after my computer is idle?
[01:25] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: I'll tell mine that yours plays them
[01:25] <_2> it's frustrating not being able to figure out how i want to setup my filesystem/s    ;/     i have two disks  small 80g  and smaller 20g    not sure how i want it setup though,   i do want a 2g wintindo fs on there tho.
[01:25] <styles> With gnome, can I get it on one panel?
[01:25] <eboyjr> Let's say I have a launcher... '/usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop' and I want to run the command associated with it. Is there a command that will take care of that?
[01:25] <nubbie_> bpat1434: yes, considering the program which controls your display is on the hard drive.
[01:25] <raket> nubbie_: I have Kubuntu, but it is fresh installation, so I can reinstall it
[01:25] <raket> if needed
[01:26] <crunchybumble> i've got a 500 GB drive, I want to use my machine as a fileserver as well as my primary home use box. I'd also like to have a small XP partiton around, just for kicks. I've also got 2 other IDE drives totalling 500GB that I plan to use for stuff. Can someone reccomend to be a partition structure
[01:26] <bpat1434> nubbie_: is there a way to have the disks "start up" when I attempt to wake the laptop?
[01:26] <FFEMTcJ> I am trying to view my windows computer shares from my ubuntu computer.. I have the shares set up, and they work between windows machines, but I cant view it from ubuntu.. I have tried following guides on samba to no avail.. anyone able to help me?
[01:26] <styles> using Gnome, can I make the time in the lower right as one bar?
[01:26] <mikeooooo> anyone dual booting off of a raid 1?
[01:27] <mikeooooo> both os's installed on the same raid array, but different partitions?
[01:27] <_2> styles unlock it and put it where you want it ?
[01:27] <Ecclesiastes> Has this patch been applied to the pata_artop module : http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-08/msg04132.html  ?
[01:27] <bpat1434> nubbie_: is there a way I can get the disks to automatically "spin up" when I try to wake the laptop?
[01:27] <styles> _2, no like merge it with the other one?
[01:27] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: in rbox menu - edit/prefs/music what is the preferred?
[01:27] <_2> styles yes, that's what i'm saying.
[01:28] <styles> _2 how?
[01:28] <_2> styles drag it to the top...
[01:28] <kitsuneofdoom> ^u^: Ogg Multimedia
[01:28] <sevillian> Pls help........... what  could equal  klcodec390f in llinux?
[01:28] <_2> styles you can delete that pannel and put what you want on the other one.
[01:29] <^u^> kitsuneofdoom: seems to be local issue for you - sorry can't help more/any :)
[01:29] <nubbie_> sevillian: what is klcodec390f ?
[01:29] <sevillian> that is Codec
[01:29] <VARGUX> ....hi... i have a doubt.....
[01:29] <nubbie_> styles: the middle mouse button will move panel applets if you want to move them all fastly.
[01:29] <cgentry72> that made it worse :( now i only have 800x600 resolution and still not mouse :D
[01:29] <nubbie_> styles: unless they are locked of course.
[01:30] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras is same as klite codec pack sevillian
[01:30] <VARGUX> anything external hard disk... works in ubuntu (via usb port) ??????????????????
[01:30] <styles> nubbie_: how do I recreate a bar if I deleted it?!
[01:30] <FFEMTcJ> can someone help me setup file sharing between win & ubuntu
[01:30] <nubbie_> styles: manually.
[01:30] <Reck> ikonia, I am looking for a Web Design program that does not require a knowledge of HTML
[01:30] <bazhang> !html | Reck
[01:30] <sevillian> nubbie_ : what the command line i would type to install it?
[01:31] <nubbie_> sevillian: you haven't told me what is is or does.
[01:31] <ouellettesr> hello has anyone had trouble with updateing vmware server for hardy using the any any 15 update?
[01:31] <cgentry72> everything works fine under another user here so i'm just going to start over cause i can't deal with this today :(
[01:31] <bazhang> sevillian, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:32] <bazhang> nubbie_, klite codec pack for windows
[01:32] <VARGUX> ....hi... i have a doubt.....
[01:32] <VARGUX> anything external hard disk... works in ubuntu (via usb port) ??????????????????
[01:32] <Reck> bazhang, I am looking for a easy to use Web Page Design program, one that does not require html knowledge
[01:32] <NW2190> Hey, I just lost my program associations in firefox (i.e. after downloading a .tar.gz the "open with" menu is blank).  Does anyone know how to fix that?
[01:32] <nubbie_> i still don't know what klite is.
[01:32] <sevillian> nubbie_:   i wanna rum Edu movie .. i can listen but there in no picture
[01:33] <bazhang> kompozer iceape are two Reck
[01:33] <_2> VARGUX linux does support usb disk drives.
[01:33] <Reck> Thanks
[01:33] <twobits> Hey, I have a problem with "Blank Screen" on Ubuntu 8.04
[01:34] <twobits> Currently, my power management settings say to blank the screen when I close the lid
[01:34] <VARGUX> _2 this "Linux" is which i know??? :P
[01:34] <twobits> however...
[01:34] <sevillian>  nubbie_ :  what  means by klite ?
[01:34] <_2> VARGUX linux is the kernel.
[01:34] <twobits> When I open the screen back up, the screen stays blank. The computer isn't frozen, and it still responds... the screen just doesn't come back on. If I restart xserver, I can see the screen again, but obviously at the cost of losing what I was doing...
[01:34] <fde> NW2190: In Firefox 3b5, you can go to Edit > Preferences > Applications tab and ensure they're there... what does that tab look like for you?
[01:35] <twobits> Is there anyway to fix this?
[01:35] <_2> VARGUX the rest is GNU
[01:35] <bazhang> klcodec390f = klite sevillian
[01:35] <sevillian> bazhabg : it may be media player classic
[01:35] <sunce> :)
[01:36] <fde> _2: Most Ubuntu users don't care about such things, no need to explain them here, this is a support channel, not an informational channel
[01:36] <bazhang> sevillian, install ubuntu-restricted-extras; that is the ubuntu 'codec pack' ;]
[01:36] <mudd`Hossam> hello, anyone have any recommendations on a PCI-E raid controller card with raid5 (1TB x 4)?
[01:37] <NW2190> fde: ya I've been messing around with that trying to fix it but still had no luck.  It looks fairly normal, but when I try to choose Archive Manager I get an error.
[01:37] <_2> fde i guess that's an invitation to leave.        fair enough.
[01:37] <sevillian> bazhang : thank i  do now
[01:37] <MachinTrucChose> what was _2 talking about?
[01:37] <VARGUX> _2 i know... linux is the kernel... you write "linux"... y write ubuntu!
[01:37] <bazhang> fde support with no info? ;]
[01:37] <sevillian> bazhang : thank you for your helping
[01:37] <twobits> sorry, If some one mentioned a solution to my problem, could he or she repeat it? I was disconnected
[01:38] <VARGUX> _2 and... i wrote.. "LInux"
[01:38] <fde> bazhang: He was explaining GNU/Linux related stuff rather than explaining how to fix an issue etc...
[01:38] <bazhang> fde he had two short lines--never mind
[01:38] <genii> MachinTrucChose: He was getting offtopic from support, which is primary purpose here
[01:38] <MachinTrucChose> aah, a GNU/Linux vs Linux flamewar
[01:39] <mudd`Hossam> does anyone know if a software raid can be brought over to a hardware raid?
[01:39] <CorbinFox> perhaps even a GNU/Linux vs Linux vs ubuntu one
[01:39] <MachinTrucChose> WTF...Azureus crashed because I didn't shut down properly, now it's in Hebrew O_O
[01:39] <MachinTrucChose> half of it...the other half is English
[01:40] <jpastore> hi I upgraded to 8.04 and now my wireless driver is no longer working. can someone point me in the right direction.
[01:40] <NW2190> Is "Archive Manager" just another name for File-Roller?
[01:41] <zChris> jpastore: try googling "your wlan card ubuntu hardy"
[01:41] <fde> NW2190: yes
[01:41] <NW2190> fde: k that's what I thought.
[01:41] <zChris> Rick roller?
[01:41] <zChris> :D
[01:41] <jpastore> zChris, I get a variety of crap that isn't helping very much.
[01:41] <dxdt> jpastore: what card?
[01:41] <twobits> jpastore: What wireless card?
[01:42] <jpastore> intel 3945
[01:42] <dxdt> jpastore: also what does iwconfig produce?  Anything interesting?
[01:42] <zChris> jpastore: hmm , well then i dont know mate, Soz
[01:42] <MachinTrucChose> zchris: I thought it was a joke at first...didn't expect a pasty 19yo white guy to sound like a grave mid-forties black man
[01:42] <dxdt> that's really odd.  Intel cards should work pretty well
[01:42] <zChris> MachinTrucChose: what?
[01:42] <cybertux> hi
[01:42] <MachinTrucChose> Rick Roll
[01:42] <bazhang> !ot | MachinTrucChose
[01:42] <MachinTrucChose> ok, ok
[01:42] <zChris> MachinTrucChose: sorry im not following
[01:42] <MachinTrucChose> is there an offtopic channel?
[01:42] <jpastore> dxdt, I tried installing the ndiswrapper and I think I messed also tried the iwl driver
[01:42] <MachinTrucChose> thx
[01:43] <jpastore> I tried to compile the linux driver which was the iwl driver that I downloaded from intel but the it failed...
[01:43] <jpastore> it was workign in 7.10
[01:43] <jpastore> I was using wicd which got upgrade and stopped working
[01:43] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[01:44] <dxdt> jpastore: yeah ndiswrapper is definitely not needed.  In fact I'm pretty sure that card should work out of the box.  I wonder if there was just something else slightly not working.  hmmm did iwconfig show anything interesting?
[01:44] <eegore> How do I do a dist upgrade from feisty
[01:44] <Sirjames> how do i do the linux cube
[01:44] <styles> How do I completely uninstall Knome? I don't want any of the programs it installed eathier.
[01:44] <jpastore> dxdt, define interesting
[01:44] <IdleOne> !compiz | Sirjames
[01:44] <bazhang> jpastore, some folks have been hit with a bug with the transition from ipw to iwl
[01:45] <jpastore> bazhang, I think that might be the case here from what I've been seeing on the forums but can't verify
[01:45] <jpastore> bazhang, how is taht bug resolved?
[01:45] <zChris> I got strange error with the xv codec on VLC, when i use it the colors is totally off
[01:45] <dxdt> jpastore: heh, umm I guess just pastebin the output?
[01:45] <dxdt> jpastore: or is that not possible?   is there like an eth0 or eth1 that looks like your wireless card?
[01:46] <bazhang> jpastore, oddly enough, a fresh install of kde4 had it workining out of the box for me-->perhaps gnome might do the same might try the live cd and check it out
[01:46] <jpastore> dxdt, no it says there's wireless detected on wlan0
[01:46] <starcannon> gaten how did the guide work out for you?
[01:46] <jpastore> which used to be eth1 I guess
[01:46] <fde> eegore: System > Administration > Software Sources... the "Updates" tab, at the bottom there should be an option "Show new distribution releases:" Ensure this is set to at least "Long term releases only"
[01:46] <jpastore> bazhang, I tried booting off a live cd and it didn't seem like it was working...but my dhcp server was screen and nm-applet seems to have a problem working when you take an adapter off roaming mode
[01:46] <dxdt> jpastore: well.....  I think I'm out of my league, because it should probably be saying eth1.  I'm not sure what the ndiswrapper did and I'm not familiar with it.  :(
[01:47] <jpastore> dxdt, I think one of the drivers created a device alias which is why it's not called wlan0
[01:47] <bazhang> jpastore, best when in live cd to drop to a shell and see what ifconfig/iwconfig turn up
[01:47]  * vujici hola
[01:47] <fde> dxdt: 'ndiswrapper -l' return anything? If so, you were successful, and can go to System > Administration > Network and set up the card normally.
[01:47] <bazhang> !es | vujici
[01:48] <jpastore> bazhang, ok let's say for a second, that it's successful. how does that help me unless I go for a complete reinstall which is not an option right now
[01:48] <jpastore> there has to be a way to fix this
[01:48] <surlyduff> while upgrading from gutsy to hardy, my computer froze.  now, the system boots up but I can't access my file manager.  I can connect to the internet and the update manager says to run a partial upgrade, but that's as far as it goes.  my cd drive isn't reading from the disk.  any advice?
[01:48] <Sirjames> can someone help me with the cube
[01:48] <zChris> jpastore: did it work at any point ?
[01:48] <r00723r0> Hi, is the current Ubuntu kernel supportive of ext4?
[01:48] <Andares> Hi guys.
[01:48] <jpastore> zChris, yes when I was running 7.10 before I did a distupgrade
[01:48] <Andares> Why is it that SILC doesn't come installed with pidgin?
[01:49] <genii> r00723r0: ext4 has been temporarily removed from kernel tree due to problems. So no
[01:49] <bazhang> jpastore, clearly not, just lets you know that it is upgrades and not fresh installs that has the bug-->though you could copy your home partition elsewehre and just copy it back
[01:49] <zChris> jpastore: hmm, well it seems to get detected thats good right? :P
[01:49] <dukesr420> hi im looking to find some help i installed the bew ubuntu and set it up and when i tried to login it just restarts and wants me to login again
[01:49] <r00723r0> genii, when will it be allowed, and when it is, how would I make a currently ext3 partition into an ext4 one?
[01:49]  * DeadNed hi
[01:49] <styles> Hi, how can I remove Knome?
[01:49] <fde> Sirjames: I can tell you a quick and dirty way if you'd like, provided System > Preferences > Appearance "Desktop Effects" tab is selecting something other that "None"?
[01:49] <Andares> Why does SILC not come installed??
[01:49] <jpastore> zChris, yea
[01:49] <alexbobp> ﻿I'm having problems figuring out what sound server is running so I can replace it with the sound server I want running.  What's the best way to find out what program is directly using my audio hardware?
[01:49] <HaDy> lalala wireless still doesn't wana work :(
[01:49] <fde> Sirjames: I mean "Visual Effects" sorry.
[01:49] <zChris> jpastore: you sure it aint the settings then ?
[01:49] <jpastore> bazhang, fair enough
[01:49] <bazhang> Andares, what is that
[01:49] <davelee> hey all
[01:49] <davelee> say
[01:50] <Andares> bazhang, a secure IM protocol.
[01:50] <jpastore> let me grab the disk and give it a go
[01:50] <davelee> i got no /dev/mapper
[01:50] <brady> Does anyone know how to get Ustream.tv to work in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <Andares> comes with pidgin on normal systems.
[01:50] <brady> to view
[01:50] <vujici> hello all
[01:50] <vujici> :
[01:50] <eegore> fde: I don't see it in kubuntu
[01:50] <jpastore> zChris, I'll try one more time
[01:50] <brady> not to broadcast, but to view
[01:50] <davelee> i have libdevmapper installed
[01:50] <jpastore> afk
[01:50] <bazhang> !ask | vujici
[01:50] <davelee> am i missing something ?
[01:50] <zChris> jpastore: perhaps you can turn off hidding of SSID and disable mac adress (if you have it on) and no password jsut too see that it detecte the network?
[01:50] <fde> eegore: ahh... Kubuntu has something similar, I forget where they put it though...
[01:50] <bazhang> !info silc
[01:50] <Kirsch> hey guys, i have a server that runs a software raid via mdadm, one of my drives died, does it matter if they are exactly the same or just have to make sure it's the same amount of space? it's a raid-1 setup
[01:51] <Andares> Hm. It should come with though.
[01:51] <Kirsch> i wanna get a SATA drive this time instead of a IDE drive
[01:51] <genii> r00723r0: No idea when it will back in regular tree. You would convert however with same tool as before, tune2fs
[01:51] <brady> anyone?
[01:51] <brady> anyone at all?
[01:51] <davelee> Kirsch: you don't need drives the same .. in fact its often best if theyre not
[01:51] <Kirsch> davelee: sounds good to me, thx
[01:51] <bazhang> !patience | brady
[01:51] <fde> Andares: I think Pidgin has SILC support enabled?
[01:52] <dukesr420>  hi im looking to find some help i installed the bew ubuntu and set it up and when i tried to login it just restarts and wants me to login again
[01:52] <Rafase282> hello
[01:52] <davelee> Kirsch: i've had a recommendation when building a RAID array to use disks from 2 manufacturers from different batches , so if theres a bad batch ...
[01:52] <loomba> quick question:  HOW do i view an MMS stream that needs a USER NAME and password in put,  using vlc or mplayer or gstreamer
[01:52] <davelee> so anyone know why I don't have a /dev/mapper and cant access my LVM partitions ?
[01:52] <Computer|Nerd> bazhang and ubottu I know the people here are volunteers, I am one of them! Ustream worked a until I upgraded my Ubuntu....
[01:53] <giesen> how do I disable the prompt that asks me if I want to allow a remote user to connect to my desktop via vnc?
[01:53] <dukesr420>  hi im looking to find some help i installed the bew ubuntu and set it up and when i tried to login it just restarts and wants me to login again
[01:53] <mintsoup> is there some way I can monitor harddisk disk IO?
[01:53] <bazhang> Computer|Nerd, ubottu is a bot..
[01:53] <Computer|Nerd> oh...
[01:53] <Computer|Nerd> I see
[01:53] <loomba> quick question:  HOW do i view an MMS stream that needs a USER NAME and password in put,  using vlc or mplayer or gstreamer
[01:54] <dukesr420>  hi im looking to find some help i installed the bew ubuntu and set it up and when i tried to login it just restarts and wants me to login again
[01:55] <starcannon> dukesr420 i'd try a vlc or mplayer plugin for firefox maybe, not sure, thats just my fist thought at it
[01:55] <madbox> .nl
[01:55] <dukesr420> im sorry im very new to this what is that?
[01:55] <fde> Computer|Nerd: I think it was more the patience thing, but it also helps if you keep your questions to a minimal of lines, and formulate them more completely... but, you're looking for a TV application?
[01:56] <TS> I need help configuring my resolution please. It used to be alright and now its really low and locked out.
[01:56] <Computer|Nerd> no, I watch people live on ustream.tv but it doesn't work on Ubuntu
[01:56] <ron> hello
[01:56] <fde> Computer|Nerd: Is it a flash site?
[01:56] <o0Chris0o> anyone know any websites that have system sounds
[01:56] <starcannon> lets you view multimedia, particularly the streaming variety in the firefox(aka mozilla) web browser, synaptic package manager has a firefox/mozilla mplayer plugin for sure, cant remember if it has one for vlc or not
[01:56] <Computer|Nerd> yes
[01:56] <Rafase282> I need help with virtualbox
[01:56] <jskyhawk> I have a question... I have windows vista running on three hard drives in a Raid 5 config... i just installed 8.04 to a fourth drive outside of that array but when i try to boot from Grub i get error 17... anyone can help?
[01:57] <fde> Computer|Nerd: install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' restart your browser and try again  :)
[01:57] <Computer|Nerd> and Firefox brings up the little play triangle inside the circle and I click it, and it is just blank fde
[01:57] <zChris> I got strange error with the xv codec on VLC, when i use it the colors is totally off. Any suggestion on how to fix it? Got Nvidia 8800GT and their propiteray drivers.
[01:57] <Rafase282> can anyone help me wih Virtualbox?
[01:57] <o0Chris0o> anyone know any websites that have system sounds
[01:57] <fde> Computer|Nerd: ahh, so you've installed flashblock or gnash or something similar?
[01:57] <dukesr420> ok thanks
[01:58] <ron> my window vista does work on my computer
[01:58] <klutch240> Ubotto.  I got it.  Thanx
 you could type e to edit the boot menu then change the drive it boots from, then hit b to boot off different hd(x,x) drives to see if it works
[01:58] <mikeooooo> mine got changed once and now i have to edit it every time i boot because im too lazy to find it and permanently edit it
[01:58] <starcannon> jskyhawk your likely going to need to run grub from a livecd and get it pointed to your boot partition, i'm guessing that your using a bios device selector to get your ubuntu drive to go first, then grub not knowing that it really isnt the first physical drive on the system is pointing at the first drive in your raid, least from the little you've said thats what I think may be happening
[01:59] <TS> I need help configuring my resolution please. I have all the NVIDIA drivers enabled but it doesn't make a difference.
[01:59] <jskyhawk> thanks star
[01:59] <fde> mikeooooo: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to change it perminently... try 'sudo gedit <file>'
[01:59] <Computer|Nerd> fde, I don't think so...
[01:59] <o0Chris0o> anyone know any websites that have system sounds or does gnome have any extras?
[01:59] <ChatVietNam> :P:P:P hehehehheheheh
[01:59] <VS-Bot> :P:P:P hehehehheheheh
[01:59] <ChatVietNam> :P:P:P hehehehheheheh
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[01:59] <fde> Computer|Nerd: ok, well just install the package I stated, if it works, you should be fine
[02:00] <o0Chris0o> well then
[02:00] <TS> I need help configuring my resolution please. I have all the NVIDIA drivers enabled but it doesn't make a difference.
[02:00] <stdin> !traffic
[02:01] <starcannon> o0Chris0o before that rude flood, I was going to say, check out gnome-look.org perhaps, and do some googling
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[02:01] <croddy> TS, i had the same problem until i just said "screw it" and used nvidia-settings to write xorg.conf. it has worked like a charm since then.
[02:01] <croddy> nice
[02:01] <starcannon> o0Chris0o before that rude flood, I was going to say, check out gnome-look.org perhaps, and do some googling
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[02:02] <croddy> oh no
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[02:02] <starcannon> later all, an ass hat has taken our node :(
[02:02] <croddy> TS, i had the same problem until i just said "screw it" and used nvidia-settings to write xorg.conf. it has worked like a charm since then.
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[02:03] <compy> croddy yeah it wont allow me to write xorg.conf
[02:03] <croddy> compy, it needs root privileges to write to that file in that directory
[02:03] <compy> so how would i do that, log on as root?
[02:03] <compy> but i dont know how thats possible since there is no root
[02:03] <croddy> compy, you should be able to run it with sudo
[02:03] <compy> so i need to run x server settings as sudo?
[02:03] <croddy> (also, it is a myth that there is no root -- check out the process list.)
[02:04] <LyleM> UbuntuPWNS, !!
[02:04] <compy> croddy, oh =]
[02:04] <croddy> compy, i am referring only to those with nvidia cards for whom the standard display config tool does not produce desirable results
[02:04] <zChris> croddy: but logining into root is disable as default, from a ordinary user right ?
[02:04] <cybertux> sudo passwd
[02:04] <UbuntuPWNS> hey LyleM :D
[02:04] <croddy> there is no need to run an entire X session as root. that is a bad idea.
[02:04] <compy> so this is a lame question, but how do i run NVIDIA X Server Settings as root
[02:04] <croddy> compy, sudo nvidia-settings
[02:04] <Libra> omg
[02:04] <Libra> all these nicks are taken :(
[02:05] <croddy> (note that this is not a supported way to write xorg.conf -- it's just the path of least resistance)
[02:05] <TS> when I try and run the nvidia-settings it tells me that I'm not currently running the Xserver
[02:05] <TS> and get this message.
[02:05] <TS> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[02:05] <fde> zChris: The root account is disabled, but it is still there.
[02:05] <compy> croddy ahhh thanks
[02:05] <croddy> TS, you need to get the nvidia driver set up first.
[02:05] <croddy> the root account is not even disabled. it just lacks a password.
[02:06] <compy> thansk croddy ^^
[02:06] <fde> croddy: hence disabled  ;)
[02:06] <crdlb> TS: what nvidia card do you have?
[02:06] <croddy> a matter of semantics, i suppose....
[02:06] <fde> croddy: ! in password field == disabled.
[02:06] <TS> I'm not sure off hand crdlb
[02:06] <croddy> if 'sudo su' works, i would not describe it as disabled, personally...
[02:07] <zChris> croddy: does it work?
[02:07] <croddy> it always has for me.
[02:07] <starcannon> gaten you there?
[02:07] <zChris> he cool
[02:07] <zChris> :)
[02:07] <TS> how do I kill the xserver so I can restart it?
[02:07] <compy> anyone have songbird running on 64 bit?
[02:07] <RyanPrior> My friend upgraded to Hardy and his sudo stopped working. How does one fix that?
[02:07] <crdlb> TS: did you run nvidia-xconfig ?
[02:07] <RyanPrior> TS: ctrl+alt+backspace kills and restarts the x server.
[02:07] <TS> yes I get an error
[02:07] <croddy> aha, now we see the error inherent to the disabled root account!
[02:07] <gaten> starcannon:  yea
[02:08] <starcannon> TS from command line for gnome sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:08] <croddy> RyanPrior, encourage him to reboot in single-user mode and edit sudoers
[02:08] <plik> RyanPrior: vi /etc/sudoers  in single user mode I guess
[02:08] <crdlb> TS: which is?
[02:08] <starcannon> gaten did that guide straighten things up for you?
[02:08] <RyanPrior> plik: It says something like "can't resolve host" when he tries to use sudo.
[02:08] <croddy> creepy
[02:08] <crdlb> starcannon: he'd probably prefer 'restart' :)
[02:08] <plik> very odd
[02:08] <gaten> starcannon:  oh gotta restart and check. the only thing i didnt do that you pointed out was with the modules. let me restart and see
[02:08] <starcannon> crdlb ah yep sorry he would, my bad sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:09] <fde> RyanPrior: That means hostname was changed without changing hosts... if you have the livecd around, you can just mount the partition and edit the applicable files so they match again.
[02:09] <TS> Oh
[02:09] <TS> didn't do jack but log my session off
[02:09] <TS> thanks
[02:09] <TS> lol
[02:09] <RyanPrior> fde: He doesn't have a LiveCD, he upgraded via network.
[02:09] <felipe__> What happens if I remove pulse audio? will I still have sound?
[02:09] <fde> RyanPrior: Or the single user thing... didn't think of that.
[02:09] <Tuojalta_Surma> I'm having a bit of problem installing Ubuntu 8.4.  When I hit anything but memory test it brings me to a black screen with only a cursor in the upper left.
[02:09] <RyanPrior> fde: How do you active single-user mode?
[02:09] <croddy> RyanPrior, any live CD will work for this. knoppix, ubuntu 6.06, ...
[02:10] <crdlb> TS: logging out doesn't actually restart X by default; it reuses the display
[02:10] <RyanPrior> croddy: How do you do this hostname thing?
[02:10] <croddy> RyanPrior, fde is suggesting editing /etc/hosts so that the lines for localhost match the new hostname
[02:10] <TS> I just did the ctrl alt backspace and it booted me out. but I still get the xserver isn't configured message
[02:10] <croddy> do this using your favorite text editor
[02:10] <nubbie_> banshee 1.0 beta one is live people!
[02:10] <RyanPrior> croddy: How do you find the new hostname?
[02:11] <fde> RyanPrior: during boot, enter grub by hitting a key in the time alloted... then type 'e' and add '1' to the line... then 'b' to boot...
[02:11] <starcannon> anyone here able to walk a noob through setting up a hard drive for ubuntu using lvm? I've never done this before so am stumped how to start
[02:11] <HindenPeter> I have a question: Where can I find the ATI fglrx drivers? I'm having some trouble finding them in the forums.
[02:11] <fde> croddy: that would be a more drawn out process... run level 1 is easier.
[02:11] <RyanPrior> fde: And that logs you in as root?
[02:11] <starcannon> HindenPeter www.ati.com and then be sure to follow the link to the wiki on how to install them
[02:11] <fde> RyanPrior: Essentially... yes
[02:12] <RyanPrior> How do you find the new hostname?
[02:12] <croddy> wow, are there already ATI cards that are unsupported in 8.04?
[02:12] <fde> RyanPrior: It is also why my systems have a grub password  :)
[02:12] <croddy> (it's why my systems use encrypted LVM)
[02:13] <SitUbuntuSit> hmm, i actually thought there was progress with ati. i used to need xgl but can actually run aiglx nicely now in hardy.
[02:13] <jumpkick> is there going to be a fix for firefox going insane on the disk i/o?
[02:13] <starcannon> croddy do you have time to walk me through how to set up a hdd using lvm, I'm not worried about encryption today, I'll tackle that after I unerstand lvm
[02:13] <RyanPrior> That sounds like a good fix, but how does one find what the new hostname is?
[02:14] <plik> RyanPrior: uname
[02:14] <fde> croddy: That is why envyng-gtk exists, to install the newest drivers easily :)
[02:14] <croddy> starcannon, my LVM is pretty rusty and i have to refer to the documentation every time i deal with one at work. at home, it was all set up by the alternat einstaller
[02:14] <fde> RyanPrior: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts are the files to check.
[02:14] <plik> RyanPrior: oops ,  uname -a
[02:14] <RyanPrior> plik: so, for example, my hostname is Linux?
[02:14] <starcannon> ah i see, okies lol, well that was nicer than an rtfm hehe
[02:14] <croddy> fde, thanks, that will help a bunch at work where i have a continuous flood of whatever ATI card dell decides to ship to me and a raft of developers all demanding the latest ubuntu
[02:14] <Tuojalta_Surma> Ubuntu won't install on my computer, can anyone help me with this problem?
[02:15] <RyanPrior> plik: no, uname -n I think
[02:15] <plik> RyanPrior: sorry,   uname -a   ... after Linux
[02:15] <plik> yah -n too
[02:15] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma probably can help, but need to boil it down some, what computer, what is happening, what error messages
[02:15] <plik> -a shows "all"   kernel etc
[02:15] <fde> RyanPrior: That's not enlightening for this situation, please just make sure those 2 files match for host portion
[02:16] <FFEMTcJ> can someone help me with file sharing between ubuntu and windows
[02:16] <edwin> samba
[02:16] <edwin> service
[02:16] <edwin> up
[02:16] <Lempface> is there an easy way to install cinelerra if its not in my repository?
[02:16] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ samba
[02:17] <fde> !medibuntu > Lempface
[02:17] <edwin> alguien con espaniol?
[02:17] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: im having trouble viewing my windows shares, and from what i can tell, theres no config that needs to be done for samba to view windows, only the other way around
[02:17] <starcannon> Lempface cinelerra is one reason i'm not upgrading one of my machines, I don't want to compile it again lol
[02:17] <John117> My keyboard is not working in Grub.  It works in bios, and it works in ubuntu.  I just can't select a different operating system.  Any suggestions?
[02:17] <Lempface> !medibuntu
[02:17] <edwin> espaniol?
[02:17] <edwin> spanish?
[02:17] <Lempface> meh, i am new to linux and installing apps manual is not my forte
[02:17] <fde> Lempface: actually... it's not in there... grrr
[02:18] <babola1> hi
[02:18] <RequinB4> !flash
[02:18] <Starnestommy> !es | edwin
[02:18] <edwin> ok thanks
[02:18] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ hmm, I haven't done this in a long time, I only have one windows partition left on my network, and its dusty, I think i used to use linneighborhood alot though back when I first started
[02:18] <edwin> bye
[02:18] <RyanPrior> So, what edit does one make to the /etc/sudoers to accomodate this new hostname?
[02:18] <Pord> Is there a way to put gnome 2.22 onto ubuntu 7.10? I dont want to put hardy heron on again as it messes up laptop and is very unstable
[02:19] <FFEMTcJ> i used to have another system running ubuntu, which worked right out of the box.. but this one isnt and i cant figure out why
[02:19] <RyanPrior> My /etc/sudoers doesn't even have my hostname in it .
[02:19] <John117> My keyboard is not working in Grub.  It works in bios, and it works in ubuntu.  I just can't select a different operating system.  Any suggestions?
[02:19] <fde> RyanPrior: one edits /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[02:19] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ have you tried linneighborhood?
[02:19] <FFEMTcJ> nope
[02:19] <FFEMTcJ> looking into it now
[02:19] <croddy> John117, is it a USB keyboard?
[02:19] <MrGnu> Ok  all, Howdy... Ok, I bought the Maxtor 4 Mini Backup hard drive, and i ended up getting it for the EEEp
[02:19] <MrGnu> eeepc
[02:19] <MrGnu> here is my question
[02:19] <Lempface> fde: i need something to make a video out from stills... time lapse style
[02:19] <RyanPrior> fde: But if you're looking in /etc/hosts to find out what the hostname is in the first place, how does editing that file help???
[02:19] <John117> croddy: yes
[02:19] <fde> Lempface: Look at Kino
[02:19] <brunner> how much would it slow things down if I just encrypted my home directory?
[02:19] <MrGnu> xubuntu for eee pc, or hardy?
[02:19] <croddy> see if your BIOS supports "usb keyboard emulation", otherwise, you'll have to plug in a PS/2 keyboard for that.
[02:20] <John117> croddy: and it has worked before.  Until just a few minutes ago.
[02:20] <croddy> oh
[02:20] <croddy> hmm
[02:20] <fde> RyanPrior: It needs to match what is in /etc/hostname ... that's all.
[02:20] <RyanPrior> brunner: Very very little. Phoronix has some benchmarks - it's a tiny overhead.
[02:20] <John117> croddy: it works in the bios.
[02:20] <croddy> brunner, not much, but it won't help you much either. you want to *start* with encrypted swawp
[02:20] <croddy> swap even
[02:20] <brunner> Is there good reason to encrypt anything other than home and swap?
[02:20] <miron> I've got a perl module that has errors on line 5, which states "use Lingua::EN::Tagger;
[02:20] <miron> "
[02:20] <fde> croddy: Most modern systems never even touch swap.
[02:20] <compy> which dock do you all recommend awn?
[02:20] <miron> What do I need to get to make this work?
[02:20] <Starnestommy> miron: what is the error?
[02:20] <RyanPrior> fde: Does it matter which one you change to match the other?
[02:21] <miron> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at modules/con.pl line 5.
[02:21] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon:  I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.04 on my computer.  I am using a clone computer (not a brand name comupter) with an amd athlon processer, 390mb ram, 7 gigs of hard disk space, and currently running windows 2000.  I put the disk in and when it goes to the install screen and I hit install it goes to a completely black screen with only a cursor in the upper left
[02:21] <brunner> and, how much would an encrypted swap slow me down?  I have 2GB of RAM.
[02:21] <starcannon> swap still good for laptops and other systems that need to suspend/resume or hibernate
[02:21] <fde> RyanPrior: nope, they just have to match so sudo stops getting confused  :)
[02:21] <brunner> The only application that ever causes me to use swap is Firefox lol
[02:21] <croddy> fde, i insist that encrypting swap is the most important thing of all, since terible things are likely to show up there even for a user who is fastidious about everything else on the system.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> compy,  i find most of these 'docks' to be just eyesore-eyecaney. I stick with the normal gnome panel. Much less hassles
[02:21] <Starnestommy> miron: is the modyle Lingua::EN::Tagger installed?
[02:21] <Starnestommy> *module
[02:21] <miron> That's what I think it is
[02:21] <RyanPrior> fde: so, I could change my hostname in both locations to "chocolaterain" and it would not break anything?
[02:21] <miron> but I'm running kde, so I have a disturbing lack of synaptic
[02:22] <miron> so how do I install it?
[02:22] <RyanPrior> miron: Maybe ask in #kubuntu then
[02:22] <croddy> some stay dry, just make the hosts the same.
[02:22] <miron> er, right
[02:22] <fde> croddy: gcc has many features that ensures apps are compiled in a way that doesn't allow memory hacks
[02:22] <fde> RyanPrior: yup
[02:22] <compy> Dr_willis, yeah i understand, does AWN use much resources?
[02:22] <HindenPeter> K, I'm having trouble installing the ATI proprietary drivers following the instructions linked to on the ATI site. Mainly the fact that ati-driver-installer-8-4-x86.x86_64.run doesn't work.
[02:22] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma did you checksum the iso before you burned it? what video card are you using, perhaps choose F4 at the menu screen and choose safe graphics mode from there, if you have a wierd piece of hardware perhaps even an alternate install cd may be required
[02:23] <_0xf001> is there a command line to switch teh port for ssh service
[02:23] <fde> croddy: SELinux also is a good add-on to that situation for the paranoid... I currently have 2gb RAM, I haven't seen swap get close to being used in years.
[02:23] <_0xf001> its not workin by changing config and restarting
[02:23] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon:   I bought the CD from one of the places ubuntu reccomended
[02:23] <pjv> what's a good free shoot em game ?
[02:23] <fde> croddy: For flash though, you can ensure it is well behaved... that is probably the most insecure addon for any desktop system.
[02:24] <brunner> fde: yes I have.  Have you used firefox lately?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> compy,  no idea - last i tried to use awn - it had so many other problems i found it totally unuseable
[02:24] <fde> brunner: I keep Firefox running almost 24/7 ...
[02:24] <croddy> i see some swap usage right now for sure, on systems with 2GB of memory
[02:24] <brunner> and it never consumes 1GB of RAM?
[02:24] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma nod, its probably a good disk then, have you tried the f4 and safe graphics option at the boot menu yet?
[02:24] <croddy> since you say swap is unlikely to be used, then there is clearly no harm possible in encrypting it.
[02:24] <brunner> I don't believe you.
[02:25] <Lempface> im on a dual boot, can i transfer files from this partition to my windows partition?
[02:25] <jumpkick> FF3b5 is fubar
[02:25] <fde> brunner: firefox 3 has never used that much ram for me.
[02:25] <croddy> i have *never* seen firefox use 1 GB of memory.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Lempface,  yes you can.
[02:25] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: I'll try that now, if it doesn
[02:25] <brunner> I just restarted firefox, I haven't touched it after loading five tabs as I browsed, and it's already using 160MB of RAM
[02:25] <croddy> not 3, not 2, not 1.5... not 0.8.
[02:25] <Pord> does any1 know if there will be a backport of gnome 2.22 for gutsy? Also if not how can I get 2.22 on gutsy?
[02:25] <Tuojalta_Surma> doesn't work I'll make sure to tell you.
[02:25] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma cool I'll be back and forth from the KB but I'll keep an eye out for you
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Lempface,  You can mount  read/write Ntfs under linxu with the ntfs-3g tool. and windows can read/write ext3 filesystems with some other tools
[02:25] <fde> brunner: Mine stays around 30MB unless I'm using a bunch of flash sites, then it goes nuts.
[02:26] <Hammer89> anyone else notice firefox 3 causing pidgin to hang up?
[02:26] <Tuojalta_Surma> thanks starcannon
[02:26] <MachinTrucChose> anyone know why torrents on Ubuntu would be much slower than Windows? I mean technical reasons, not user configuration stuff like port-forwarding. Is it possible the quality of wireless drivers could affect torrent speeds?
[02:26] <brunner> wtf?
[02:26] <brunner> 30MB?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> MachinTrucChose,  wireless drivers can affect speeds. Not just torrent speeds
[02:26] <brunner> no way.
[02:26] <miron> So what would the module  Lingua::EN::Tagger be called in synaptic?
[02:26] <brunner> fde: how did you get it to only use 30MB?
[02:26] <compy> what was that, i missed that last post to me!
[02:26] <fde> brunner: at start up for firefox 3, yes
[02:26] <speedeep> Help with Hardy Heron on Dell 1420N with Intel 3845 Wireless adapter built in?  Everything seems to be working reasonably well, but the network acts really flaky.  No network errors are shown in ifconfig output, but remote connections to a remote server (on home router) in X tunneled over SSH are suddenly locking up after a short transfer.  Everything worked fine with the exact same hardware/software on Gutsy Gibbon, so I'm trying 
[02:26] <Starnestommy> miron: probably liblingua-en-tagger-perl
[02:27] <miron> #kubuntu was no help
[02:27] <brunner> oh, at startup, sure
[02:27] <brunner> try using it for a few hours
[02:27] <croddy> mine's been up for a couple of hours and is close to... 80 MB it looks like.
[02:27] <brunner> it's Firefox.
[02:27] <mipstien> im having a really hard time working with the upgrade to 8.04 and trying to get the nvidia drivers isntalled and working correctly. i have used envyng i have used the restricted built in drivers and manually installing them. im extremely lost as to what i should attempt to do next. it just stays in low graphics mode
[02:27] <Dr_willis> miron,  you are refering to a perl module?
[02:27] <MachinTrucChose> drwillis: my download speed test at speakeasy is 5000kbps download. The highest speed I got using bittorrent is 40kb/s.
[02:27] <miron> Yes
[02:27] <fde> brunner: I have adblock and noscripts ... so every site I visit does as it's told.
[02:27] <harksaw> Does anyone know why I get a message saying "SSLfilter: unable to load unix openssl" when I open a news downloader called nzb?
[02:27] <MachinTrucChose> That's on the official Ubuntu torrent, with tons of seeds
[02:27] <miron> and I don't see it under synaptic
[02:27] <brunner> and it's the ONLY reason why I have 2GB of RAM
[02:27] <brunner> well, okay, VMware is the real reason
[02:27] <Starnestommy> miron: it can also be installed throgh cpan with sudo cpan Lingua::EN::Tagger or sudo cpan install Lingua::EN::Tagger
[02:27] <tinsleyjr> can anyone help me trying to revert back to firefox 2.0.0.14?
[02:27] <brunner> but Firefox is the reason I need 1GB of RAM
[02:27] <nuge> on my hardy system, there is something (some cron job) which is changing the permissions of my log files to root/644.  i have a custom app which runs as a different user and it can't write to it's own log after a while... what could be resetting the permissions??
[02:27] <brunner> =P
[02:28] <miron> Sweet, thanks
[02:28] <Dr_willis> MachinTrucChose,   Hook up to wired and see if its any better, thats about the only way to test to se eif its a wireless issue
[02:28] <Starnestommy> harksaw: are openssl and libssl0.9.8 installed?
[02:28] <Atomic_UE> I have very annoying apps that can't fit on *x800 screen. How can I unset the Constrain Y option? Can't seem to find it in CCSM 0.7.4
[02:29] <harksaw> Starnestommy, yes
[02:29] <Starnestommy> harksaw: and libssl-dev ?
[02:29] <MachinTrucChose> drwillis: good idea...but that'll take some effort, I'll have to move the router and the modem
[02:29] <Atomic_UE> nm my problem is fixed ;)
[02:29] <harksaw> Starnestommy, no I don't have the dev. I will install that now, thank you!
[02:29] <brunner> is there any reason to encrypt my entire disk, instead of just /home and swap, if I'm not running a traditional server?
[02:30] <croddy> brunner, if you do not want an attacker to see what software you have installer, or read your logs, or your configuration files...
[02:30] <litlebuda> harksaw, changed the default 22 to something else ? and did you enabled that port on iptables ?
[02:30] <brunner> well, I don't care if anyone knows what packages I have installed
[02:30] <axisys> anyone know of a channel that talks about cell phones
[02:31] <brunner> croddy: what logs would matter that aren't in /home?
[02:31] <fde> brunner: excuse the horrible URL, but: http://lh3.ggpht.com/francis.earl/SCEGQaMUqtI/AAAAAAAAACU/t2334wh3Qks/proof.png
[02:31] <RyanPrior> fde: Thanks for the help. I can't test the solution, but I think I understand the problem well enough to help my friend.
[02:31] <harksaw> litlebuda, if it isn't the dev package, I will check those, thank you
[02:31] <brunner> fde: woah.
[02:31] <_0xf001> does anyone know what port 5353 is and what service would be using it?
[02:31] <_0xf001> its listening on my machine
[02:32] <_0xf001> fresh ubuntu install
[02:32] <RyanPrior> fde: what is that proof of?
[02:32] <tinsleyjr> does know how to revert back to firefox 2.0.0.14 in ubuntu 8.04?
[02:32] <RyanPrior> tinsleyjr: You cry.
[02:32] <fde> RyanPrior: Firefox can be well behaved  :)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> tinsleyjr,   you can install the firefox-2 package
[02:32] <croddy> tinsleyjr, install the firefox-2 package and then restore your firefox profile from the backup
[02:32] <o0Chris0o> how do I get the restricted extras for ubuntu
[02:32] <litlebuda> harksaw, im almoust sure its a iptables (firewall)  thing
[02:32] <yowshi> xdoes anyone know if there are any drivers for the supremeFX audio card?
[02:32] <fde> o0Chris0o: 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[02:32] <croddy> honestly, though, FF3 may hurt a little at first but i've come to prefer it
[02:32] <Starnestommy> _0xf001: do you have anything like bittorrent running?
[02:33] <o0Chris0o> oops was using emerge :-p
[02:33] <_0xf001> Starnestommy no i dont
[02:33] <RyanPrior> fde: Haha, my Firefox is using 286mb of RAM right now.
[02:33] <harksaw> litlebuda, ok, I will look intto that. I didn't think that was it because it works fine without SSL, but maybe the non-SSL port is automatically cleared
[02:33] <RyanPrior> fde: I thought your screen shot was proof of a bug with font rendering or something though - that's pretty ugly.
[02:33] <plik> _0xf001: bonjour / rendezvous
[02:33] <croddy> that's not ugly -- that's helvetica
[02:33] <fde> RyanPrior: Looks good on my monitor... heh
[02:33] <_0xf001> plik : hi
[02:33] <Starnestommy> _0xf001: it might be mdns
[02:34] <plik> _0xf001: hi, but I meant thats what port 5353 udp is
[02:34] <_0xf001> Starnestommy i did netstat -tulpn
[02:34] <RyanPrior> Any way I can revert to the Linux 2.4 kernel in Hardy?
[02:34] <plik> the service called "bonjour" formerly know as rendezvous -- lets local devices see each other
[02:34] <harksaw> It was the libssl-dev package, I installed that and now it works. Thanks Starnestommy!!!
[02:34] <_0xf001> and theres a few ports listeningin on my box im just trying to tighten it
[02:35] <Starnestommy> RyanPrior: I think you'll have to use a 2.6
[02:35] <croddy> RyanPrior, out of curiosity why do you want a 2.4 kernel?
[02:35] <djhash> hey.. i have ubuntu slpash problem when booting and shutting down.. I've changed settings so that it would display on 1024x768 and it works perfectly.. but my screen can view 1280x1024.. thats where my splash wont show.. the desktop loads at 1280x1024 perfectly no problems.. any help is appreciated...
[02:35] <RyanPrior> croddy: For testing purposes. It would be nice to be able to boot into a 2.4 or a 2.6.
[02:36] <croddy> RyanPrior, you might want to use a virtual machine for that
[02:36] <kuahara> Is there a way to force mount an unknown volume/type/size   I previously had XP x64 installed as a primary os and attempted to use partition magic to resize a partition.  Didn't work, but there were no noticeable changes.  When I later deleted the 125GB partition, it showed back up as an 8MB partition
[02:36] <termin8tor> i have a medion pc and my soundblaster live card is not working in ubuntu
[02:36] <_0xf001> www.pastebin.com/m1062cce4
[02:36] <kuahara> ubuntu doesn't even see this partition anymore, but it does see the 137GB partition that I didn't delete
[02:36] <kuahara> but, I can't mount it
[02:36] <_0xf001> Starnestommy : www.pastebin.com/m1062cce4
[02:37] <fde> _0xf001: please recheck that link
[02:37] <Starnestommy> _0xf001:     * Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
[02:37] <_0xf001> sorry
[02:37] <yowshi> does anyone know if there are any drivers for the supremeFX audio card?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> yowshi,  check the alsa homepage to see how well its supported
[02:38] <errorlevel> Is there an easy way for someone to switch from using swfdec to using the flash-nonfree plugin after having made the choice to use swfdec?
[02:38] <Chrysalis> anyone know whats the name of the gnome-python-extras in ubuntu?
[02:38] <yowshi> !alsa
[02:38] <kuahara> it might be easier if I ask if there is anything obviously wrong with this command:  mount -t ntfs -3g /dev/sda5/media/disk -o force
[02:38] <errorlevel> Oh, this is in hardy in Firefox.
[02:38] <_0xf001> http://pastebin.com/m1062cce4
[02:38] <_0xf001> Starnestommy : http://pastebin.com/m1062cce4
[02:38] <randal> Starnestommy: are you there i need some help
[02:38] <voidmage> so i'm impressed. my laptop runs 64 bit better than 32 bit. all the power management features, suspend and hibernate all work. now if only they'd package zsnes for 64bit...
[02:38] <fde> errorlevel: just remove swfdec and install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:38] <Dr_willis> kuahara,   You got a space in the wrong place its 'ntfs-3g'
[02:38] <starcannon> errorlevel open synaptic package manager, search for swfdec uninstall it, search for flash-nonfree and install it, that should get you going
[02:38] <llamakc> John117: python-gnome2-extras
[02:39] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  the other day i heard that zsnes HAD been ported to 64bit
[02:39] <_0xf001> do i need any of those running besides sshd
[02:39] <Dr_willis> !info zsnes
[02:39] <_0xf001> ?
[02:39] <John117> When upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 does it also upgrade to a newer version of Grub?  That may be why my USB keyboard stopped working.  It has always worked before.  It works in bios, and in ubuntu but not grub
[02:39] <errorlevel> starcannon: Thanks.
[02:39] <John117> llamakc what is that?
[02:39] <^u^> kuahara: and /dev/sda5 media/disk
[02:39] <kuahara> thx willis... also it says that path doesn't exist.  I can go to root and cd /dev, I can also ls sda5 and it shows up, but when I cd sda5, it says that it is not a directory
[02:39] <randal> Starnestommy:  i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:39] <Starnestommy> _0xf001: cupsd manages printing
[02:39] <randal> Starnestommy:  i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:39] <voidmage> Dr_willis: hmm, then packages.ubuntu.com is out of date
[02:39] <randal> Starnestommy:  i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:39] <randal> Starnestommy:  i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:39] <randal> Starnestommy:  i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:39] <FloodBot3> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <voidmage> Dr_willis: i tried installing it on there today and it didn't find the package
[02:39] <o0Chris0o> randal if I was an op I would ban you
[02:39] <randal> l
[02:39] <randal> sorry
[02:39] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  its In the normal universe repo under hardy it seems
[02:39] <llamakc> John117: my bad I meant that for  Chrysalis
[02:39] <voidmage> hmm.
[02:39] <Chrysalis> llamakc: was that reply meant for me about the gnome-python-extras?
[02:40] <mipstien> im having a really hard time working with the upgrade to 8.04 and trying to get the nvidia drivers isntalled and working correctly. i have used envyng i have used the restricted built in drivers and manually installing them. im extremely lost as to what i should attempt to do next. it just stays in low graphics mode
[02:40] <plik> _0xf001: only if you want the services bonjour, and cups printing provides
[02:40] <John117> llamakc okay
[02:40] <yowshi> Dr_willis: i cant find it listed on the asla sound card page
[02:40] <John117> When upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 does it also upgrade to a newer version of Grub?  That may be why my USB keyboard stopped working.  It has always worked before.  It works in bios, and in ubuntu but not grub
[02:40] <Chrysalis> llamakc: yep, thank you
[02:40] <randal>   i installed vitrualbox works great but i am haveing troble geting the internet working
[02:40] <Dr_willis> yowshi,  thats not a good sign. You may want to do some googling for that card and linux. It Might not be supported at all.
[02:40] <fde> yowshi: Are you running Linux currently? (distro or livecd doesn't matter)
[02:40] <node357> if I install Ubuntu on a dual-core machine, does it automatically use both cores?
[02:40] <Dark-Fx> yes
[02:40] <croddy> node357, yes
[02:40] <kuahara> I corrected the command, it now returns:  fuse: failed to access mountpoint media/disk: No such file or directory
[02:40] <fde> !repeat | randal
[02:40] <node357> croddy, sweet thanks :)
[02:41] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: the same thing happened in safe graphics mode.
[02:41] <yowshi> Dr_willis: i googled and got like thousands of hits and everyone i could see was omsone asking wether or not this card would work or help for vista
[02:41] <Dr_willis> kuahara,  the mount point directory you are mounting TO MUST exist befrhand.
[02:41] <voidmage> also if only they'd package getlibs
[02:41] <voidmage> :P
[02:41] <djhash> node357: you need to makesure you use the generic and not i386
[02:41] <yowshi> fde and uh yeah i think i am running the gutsy distro right
[02:41] <node357> djhash, okay thank you
[02:41]  * croddy clings lovingly to his collection of emu10k1s and es1371s
[02:41] <harksaw> ok, dumb question: Why is it lately when I try to install a program in synaptec, it says "NOT AUTHENTICATED" ? Is it because I need to upgrade?
[02:41] <yowshi> fde: didnt botch the install or nothing. i am just having problems getting voicechat working on SL and someone suggested looking for drivers
[02:42] <croddy> harksaw, it means you are missing the PGP key for that APT repository
[02:42] <kuahara> how do I find out where it is?  I can open the 'computer' window and I see 137.5GB media listed there.  When I attempt to 'open', it says that it can not mount it.
[02:42] <kuahara> it obviously sees it though
[02:42] <kuahara> how can I force mount?
[02:42] <llamakc> harksaw: Have you added a repository? croddy beat me to it
[02:42] <fde> yowshi: ok... what does 'lspci | grep -i audio' say?
[02:42] <_0xf001> how can i terminate 4757/avahi-daemon:
[02:42] <harksaw> I haven't added a repository since I first installed a few years ago
[02:42] <yowshi> fde 00:0f.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[02:42] <voidmage> Dr_willis: the amd64 package is not showing up in archive.ubuntu.com either
[02:43] <Sunx> HI i upgraded to 8.04 and now vmware is not starting
[02:43] <RequinB4> !softwaresources | harksaw
[02:43] <bugly> anyone can help me with a canon i560 printer???????/
[02:43] <pawan> my nividia 5200 card alaways runs in low graphics mdode
[02:43] <fde> _0xf001: you probably want to /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop
[02:43] <Dr_willis> kuahara,  whats the EXACT command you are using.
[02:43] <RequinB4> !sources | harsaw, sorry guys
[02:43] <pawan> even after enabling properity drivers
[02:43] <kuahara> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 media/disk -o force
[02:43] <litlebuda> Sunx, you have to reconfigure it
[02:43] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  i dont use 64bit. so cant help you. may be an error in the database
[02:43] <kuahara> I tried that command with disk-1 as well, since this was used in the example in the error message
[02:43] <Dr_willis> kuahara,  more typos.. Your path to disk is wrong.
[02:44] <tinsleyjr> ok so i installed firefox-2 and I restarted my browser and it's still firefox 3.0b5
[02:44] <kuahara> what is wrong with it?
[02:44] <harksaw> !sources
[02:44] <Dr_willis> kuahara,  you want /media/disk
[02:44] <yowshi> fde i almost missed your post. you want me to what?
[02:44] <fde> yowshi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651175
[02:44] <Dr_willis> kuahara,  and /media/disk MUST allready exist beforhand.
[02:44] <tinsleyjr> is there something I'm missing
[02:44] <Sunx> litlebudy:any links  you may have
[02:44] <HoNgOuRu> how can I view which libraries a binary is using??????
[02:44] <croddy> tinsleyjr, how are you starting firefox?
[02:44] <kuahara> ok that worked...thx
[02:44] <gcarrillo> hi all
[02:44] <croddy> also, did you remove firefox 3?
[02:44] <node357> HoNgOuRu ldd
[02:44] <litlebuda> Sunx,  wait a sec
[02:44] <tinsleyjr> the icon on the app bar
[02:44] <gcarrillo> does anybody have a pointer on how to fix the terminal font in hardy?
[02:44] <fde> yowshi: adapt that to the kernel version you're using though.
[02:44] <RequinB4> tinsleyjr - most likely you have them both installed and are just restarting ff3b5
[02:44] <yowshi> fde i have sound everywhere else just no voice in SL
[02:44] <croddy> (i mean, clearly no, why did i ask that)
[02:44] <gcarrillo> its too antialiased
[02:44] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma okay so its just hanging up on boot yeah?
[02:45] <kuahara> there's a problem though.  When I open the media, it says 127.9GB free space.  This was nearly full of files when I had windows installed
[02:45] <llamakc> tinsleyjr: what does `ls -l /usr/bin/firefox` say? Where does it point?
[02:45] <John117> Apparently this problem has occured before.  USB keyboard works fine and one day stops working in Grub but works fine in ubuntu and in bios.
[02:45] <bugly> anyone can help me with a canon i560 printer???????/
[02:45] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[02:45] <fde> yowshi: ahh... you can hear people, but they can't hear you?
[02:45] <_0xf001> fde : thats not working sudo /etc/init.d/
[02:45] <fde> yowshi: and what is SL?
[02:45] <pawan> how to install 5200 drivers through envying
[02:45] <Dr_willis> John117,  check the usb-legacy settings in the bios. Ive seen that issue befor on some machines
[02:45] <fuzzypig> hi
[02:45] <fde> _0xf001: check spelling, or tell me the error please.
[02:45] <yowshi> fde SL secondlife and i mean i can hear normal sounds but nothing over the voicechat portion of second life. so i get no voice input or output
[02:46] <unop> HoNgOuRu, ldd /path/to/binary
[02:46] <tinsleyjr> it says:  /usr/bin/firefox -> firefox-3.0
[02:46] <fuzzypig> Uh, I get the message that hal failed to initialize every time I boot up.
[02:46] <kuahara> The hard drive is 250GB, for some reason after I deleted the first 125GB partition it showed back up as a 8MB partition.  Is there anyway to recover the other half of my hdd?
[02:46] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma if you have a good internet connection I'd recommend perhaps downloading an ISO from http://www.ubuntu.com just in case you got a dud, I'm not sure why your system won't finish booting
[02:46] <HoNgOuRu> thanks a lot
[02:46] <fuzzypig> But when I check, I find that it is in fact running.
[02:46] <fde> _0xf001: note I said '/etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop'
[02:47] <fde> yowshi: You'll have to ask Wine guys or the game devs if it's a Linux native port, sorry.
[02:47] <rockysynergy> Do any of you know some good translation software for translators?
[02:47] <John117> dr_willis i checked there and there is no option for usb legacy support.  as the keyboard works in bios, i assume that this feature is enabled.  And it strikes me as odd that it worked once then stopped.
[02:47] <llamakc> tinsleyjr: you can either create a launcher to fire up firefox-2.0 (or whatever the binary is) or change the symlink.
[02:47] <yowshi> ummm it am using the linux client
[02:47] <tinsleyjr> how?
[02:47] <fde> yowshi: If they're using SDL though, you can try installing libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio
[02:47] <djhash> gcarrillo: in terminal click on Edit->Profiles->Default->Edit
[02:47] <todd_> anyone else have giant font in places that it shouldn't be?  For example when i boot up and I'm at the login screen the letters are so massive they don't fit into the box.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[02:47] <_0xf001> fde : got it, was a spelling mistake thanks ...... would u know how to kill 5120/dhclient
[02:47] <ComputerRick> I have a challenge for anyone interested - Ubuntu Server (cli only), and need to get NIC working.  209
[02:47] <croddy> tinsleyjr, in Applications -> Internet there will be a link called "Firefox 2" or similar. right-click it and hit "Add to panel"
[02:47] <llamakc> tinsleyjr: are you using gnome?
[02:48] <kuahara> The hard drive is 250GB, for some reason after I deleted the first 125GB partition it showed back up as a 8MB partition.  Is there anyway to recover the other half of my hdd?
[02:48] <tinsleyjr> yeah I'm using gnome
[02:48] <litlebuda> Sunx,  here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779934
[02:48] <fde> _0xf001: same again, but it's dhclient rather than avahi-daemon
[02:48] <llamakc> tinsleyjr: use croddy's suggestion
[02:48] <_0xf001> thank you
[02:48] <yowshi> fde what package is that in. what would i apt-get to install that
[02:49] <litlebuda> Sunx, but there is a 117 patch im trying to find it
[02:49] <tinsleyjr> you guys are awesome thanks
[02:49] <fde> yowshi: that is what you'll apt-get
[02:49] <starcannon> ComputerRick i'm stuck doing a server install myself, I did have some nic issues, it found my nic, but when downloading I would have to press "retry" every third package or so to keep it rolling, now I'm trying to set up LVM never done it before
[02:49] <kuahara> The hard drive is 250GB, for some reason after I deleted the first 125GB partition it showed back up as a 8MB partition.  Is there anyway to recover the other half of my hdd?
[02:49] <fuzzypig> Also, ever since I updated, firefox slows down at later times of the day. Pinging is still fast, though.
[02:49] <Sunx> thanks
[02:49] <jpastore> bazhang, so booting from the live cd didn't help...no love with the wifi
[02:49] <fuzzypig> It could be my network.
[02:49] <Sunx> is upgrading to 8.04 considered a kernel upgrade?
[02:50] <fuzzypig> but my network has never done that before.
[02:50] <croddy> it contains a kernel upgrade among many other upgrades, Sunx
[02:50] <yowshi> Sunx:  yes
[02:50] <fde> Sunx: the kernel will be upgraded... if that's what you mean? heh
[02:50] <Sunx> ok thanks
[02:50] <yowshi> i've heard horrid horrid thingds about the upgrade so i am going to wait till it is stable
[02:50] <fde> Sunx: every package on your system will be upgraded
[02:50] <unop> fde, every package? are you sure about that? :)
[02:50] <fuzzypig> o
[02:50] <fuzzypig> o_o
[02:50] <ComputerRick> I've been working on this network problem all day.  Downloaded Intel Linux drivers, but make isn't available.  Can't apt-get, because I have no network.
[02:51] <mipstien> after upgrading to 8.04 i can't get nvidia drivers working correctly
[02:51] <MachinTrucChose> hey, I seem to remember seeing a Wine-related option somewhere in Ubuntu. Like "Windows application support" or something. Can someone remind me where it was? I know I can just install the Wine package, but I'd like to know where I saw this.
[02:51] <croddy> ComputerRick, you probably need build-essential at the least to compile third party source code
[02:51] <starcannon> Sunx yeah 8.04 has 2.6.24-16-generic kernel 7.10 used 2.6.22-something-generic
[02:51] <yowshi> the upgrade experience post for hardy is full of problematic upgrades
[02:51] <fuzzypig> oh god
[02:51] <mr0xf001> fde:  this is what i get sudo: /etc/init.d/dhclient: command not found
[02:51] <fuzzypig> I shouldn't have upgraded D:
[02:52] <fde> unop: not 100% ... but they certainly recompile everything in main for the new gcc and glibc etc... a rebuild causes a new version, thus an update.
[02:52] <litlebuda> Sunx, here it is http://groups.google.com/group/vmkernelnewbies/files
[02:52] <croddy> the only thing i would call problematic about hardy is the choice of firefox 3, and i mean that with the most pedantic definition of "problematic"
[02:52] <ComputerRick> Even with NDISWrapper, I need make.  It doesn't come with server.
[02:52] <bpat1434> I get the following error on my laptop: "message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0 for sub-path wlan0.dbus.get.reason" and I can't connect to my wireless network.... any ideas?
[02:52] <mauilion2> hello I am experiencing slow frame rate issues on opengl apps after dist-upgrading to hardy. I am on a dell lattitude 6000 with a x300 vid card that worked REAL well prior to the upgrade.
[02:52] <mr0xf001> sudo: /etc/init.d/dhclient: command not found
[02:52] <starcannon> upgrading is much less painful if /home is on its own partition, if one needs to go back its not so bad, can do a clean reinstall without losing your good stuff
[02:52] <djhash> yowshi: if you are using Fiesty then you shouldn't have a problem with upgrading..
[02:53] <wwalker> Strange error message "Please Use Valid URL", more data, and the vhost config at http://rafb.net/p/7eFcI419.html  -anyone got any ideas?  (Ubuntu 7.10)
[02:53] <llamakc> mr0xf001: try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (if you're trying to release/renew an IP
[02:53] <fuzzypig> hey, http connections are slower at night since the upgrade, to the point that they never load. Other types work fine.
[02:53] <fuzzypig> any ideas?
[02:53] <yowshi> djhash: isnt gutsy the one before hardy?
[02:53] <mr0xf001> llamakc ;   i dont know what that serivce   is     i dont think i need it
[02:53] <fde> mr0xf001: yeah, it's dhcpcd apparently... sorry.
[02:53] <llamakc> mr0xf001: you don't need networking, at all?
[02:53] <fde> llamakc: static perhaps
[02:53] <yowshi> djhash: yeah i am using gutsy not fiesty
[02:53] <unop> fde, that's not necessarily true tho .. but yea, something along the lines of that
[02:54] <kuahara> Is there ANY way to locate 125GB of missing unallocated space???????????
[02:54] <mauilion2> can someone guide me to a howto on downgrading the fglrx driver?
[02:54] <llamakc> my bad mr0xf001 i see fde has it
[02:54] <djhash> yowshy: oops.. yeah ur right.. anyways.. i'm reconsidering my point since i've had problems myself.. and didn't realize the forum was that filled..lol
[02:54] <starcannon> kuahara gparted perhaps
[02:54] <Rafase282> hola, donde puedo encontrar themes para el nuevo ubuntu?
[02:54] <mr0xf001> llamakc;  what exactly is the service used for?
[02:54] <fde> unop: things like python apps even, they will have updated python, so there will be a repackage...
[02:54] <mr0xf001> fde; thanks for your help
[02:54] <croddy> Rafase282, gnome-look.org or the APT repositories and this channel is english-only, sorry
[02:55] <fde> mr0xf001: it is for automatically getting IP info from a DHCP server.
[02:55] <redrebel> usas gnome o kde/?
[02:55] <djhash> yowshi: if you are willing to wait, maybe you can wait for the next release which would be in a few months
[02:55] <soldats> !es > Rafase282
[02:55] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: I think it's my computer because it's a piece of junk.
[02:55] <croddy> someone make the bot do the bilingual announcement about spanish
[02:55] <croddy> thanks
[02:55] <kuahara> this os is so freakin weak
[02:55] <fde> !es | redrebel
[02:55] <unop> fde, again, not necessarily true .. it's possible that new builds of a package use the same old underlying libraries, it's just that changes have been made to the upstream package
[02:55] <yowshi> fde anyway what should i install to get the libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio thing
[02:55] <redrebel> http://www.google.com/search?q=gnome+look&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[02:56] <croddy> kuahara, your partition table is probably hosed. you need a filesystem guru, not a few lines in an IRC channel.
[02:56] <luzzc> Escriba el texto aquí....HOLAAAAAAAAAA
[02:56] <fde> unop: With main, and even universe for an LTS release, that will be tried to be true provided they have time...
[02:56] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma I'm not sure why its not letting you boot, when I have stubborn hardware I won't fight with it on a livecd I just go download an alternate install cd and go that way
[02:56] <kuahara> thats what I'm trying to figure out is if there is a way to repair a damaged partition table
[02:56] <ComputerRick> I can't get my server online. Can someone help with the network drivers?  ifconfig shows all the proper static settings, but I do not have network access.  I've been trying to get alternate drivers, having trouble.
[02:57] <kuahara> I swear partition magic fucked it all up
[02:57] <ComputerRick> CLI - no gui.
[02:57] <croddy> yeah, i've seen PM do a turd all over disks before kuahara
[02:57] <fde> unop: If a package refuses to build, and isn't supported, they might not have it use latest libs, but then it causes maintenance issues trying to maintain 2+ versions of the same lib.
[02:57] <kuahara> is that 125GB lost forever?
[02:57] <djhash> kuahara: try Parted Magic.. it is gparted version of Partition magic.. and since its linux.. its better than partition magic
[02:57] <kuahara> I'd at least like to recover the storage space
[02:57] <Rafase282> hello, where can I download ubuntu themes?
[02:57] <fde> unop: something that is done of course, but is a goal to avoid.
[02:57] <croddy> Rafase282, gnome-look.org or look through the APT repositories
[02:58] <kuahara> I am running ubuntu off a disk since there is no place to install it
[02:58] <kuahara> being that it thinks I have 2x 8MB partitions
[02:58] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: I don't have a very great burner at my disposal and I'm not sure which one to get.
[02:58] <zcat[1]> kuahara: easy enough to zero the first block and start all over.. but do you want to fix it without just wiping the whole disk and starting over?
[02:58] <kuahara> and the "full" 130GB part
[02:58] <starcannon> kuahara probably not lost forever, i didn't notice if you tried gparted yet or not, it may be showing up as free space, and could possible be brought back by resizing a partition
[02:58] <kuahara> zcat, if I can get the whole drive back that'd be fine
[02:58] <kuahara> rescuing the data is secondary and I'm considering it lost already
[02:58] <djhash> kuahara: Make another boot CD or boot USB using Parted Magic.. its done wonders for me.. it'll even mount partitions to retrieve data from it..
[02:58] <unop> fde, nope .. what defines a new version is the way the package lists are created .. the packages in the pool directories in repositories do not cater to a specific version of ubuntu rather the package lists do that and they refer to packages
[02:58] <CeGue> morning
[02:58] <croddy> if you are considering the data lost, kuahara, i would recommend nuking the whole thing and repartitioning from scratch
[02:59] <kuahara> djhash, but how do I burn the files to CD with that boot disk
[02:59] <kuahara> croddy how...it only lets me create new 8MB parts
[02:59] <fde> unop: are you a MOTU or similar?
[02:59] <Battlefrank> hi
[02:59] <drivetrax> checking for gcc... gcc
[02:59] <drivetrax> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:59] <drivetrax>  ???
[02:59] <djhash> kuahara: can you run the Ubuntu LiveCD?!!!
[02:59] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma pioneer, plextor, sony, dell surplus, just about anything will work. I use pricewatch and newegg to buy my gear myself, if your wanting one tonight you may have to shuck it on down to a brick and mortar where you live though
[02:59] <kuahara> djhash yes
[02:59] <unop> fde, nope .. just another debian / ubuntu user
[02:59] <jrib> drivetrax: what are you compiling?
[02:59] <drivetrax> egg
[02:59] <jrib> drivetrax: eggdrop?
[02:59] <drivetrax> yeah
[03:00] <jrib> !info eggdrop | drivetrax
[03:00] <drivetrax> gutsy
[03:00] <Rafase282> yeah is that i'm suing both of them and st the message to the wrong window
[03:00] <zcat[1]> kuahara: I'd start with gparted .. you probably are just trying to add the new partition in the wrong place, eg if the disk is "8m free | 128G used | 128G free" and you add a new partition, it will try and use the first (8m) block of free space instead of the 128G block you wanted
[03:00] <jrib> drivetrax: there's no need to compile.  It's packaged in the universe repository (in gutsy too).
[03:00] <Rafase282> but thanks
[03:00] <drivetrax> ohhh! neato
[03:00] <Battlefrank> go to http://www.viewmypast.com/ and block yourselves! YOU DO NOT WANT YOUR PRIVACY VIOLATED.
[03:00] <djhash> kuahara: go online.. http://partedmagic.com/wiki/PartedMagic.php  and create either a boot CD or a boot USB drive.. you should be able to do that within the LiveCD
[03:00] <drivetrax> jrib,  uh.. still why can't it make config?
[03:00] <jrib> !offtopic | Battlefrank
[03:00] <llamakc> i'm gonna go get drunk. later
[03:00] <bpat1434> how can I get the kernel version?
[03:00] <zcat[1]> gparted is usually a little smarter and will show you how stuff is laid out already
[03:00] <todd_> I have irregular sized text in odd places.  The Login screen, random websites  (ubuntu 8.04 64bit)  http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8346/screenshotwo7.png
[03:01] <Rafase282> and I use gnome, redrebel
[03:01] <jrib> drivetrax: you need the build-essential package
[03:01] <fde> unop: ok, well say the kernel 2.6.24-16 ... the 16 here is the amount the package has been built and pushed to the build system, you don't have to make changes to push, just a new build.
[03:01] <drivetrax> I want it
[03:01] <jrib> bpat1434: uname -a
[03:01] <nemo> hey folks. I'm a little concerned since I seem to be on a higher kernel number than other folks on hardy.  how can I find out if I'm on maybe some dev tree?
[03:01] <bpat1434> jrib: thanks
[03:01] <drivetrax> jrib,  what package
[03:01] <kuahara> zcat thats almost right... what actually happened was this:  I had 8mb part, 125used 125used (storage on the 2nd part).  I deleted the primary part (drive C) and when it went back out to the menu where it shows my partitions it showed up as 8|8?125
[03:01] <jrib> drivetrax: build-essential
[03:01] <kuahara> 8|8|125 *
[03:01] <todd_> I have irregular sized text in odd places.  The Login screen, random websites  (ubuntu 8.04 64bit)  http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8346/screenshotwo7.png
[03:01] <kuahara> so 117GB disappeared
[03:01] <drivetrax> jrib,  forgive me.. is that tha package name to apt-get
[03:01] <jrib> drivetrax: yep
[03:01] <drivetrax> k
[03:01] <jrib> !compile > drivetrax (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:02] <drivetrax> I will get both then, and be ready to build more stuff
[03:02] <Kaemon12433> hey my sound card had this terribly weird prob!
[03:02] <croddy> oh cool Battlefrank i really wanted to see meatspin
[03:02] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: are you talking about computers or alternate install cds
[03:02] <Kaemon12433> i dont think it's listed on the forums
[03:02] <Kaemon12433> sound comes out on the port it's not pose to come out on
[03:02] <Scunizi> !ask | Kaemon
[03:02] <seadogg615> anybody know how to keep my microsoft bluetooth elite connected?
[03:02] <Scunizi> !ask | Kaemon12433
[03:02] <fde> unop: in large distros, you don't have users build things, they are successful builds via the build system, and there is relative automation there.
[03:02] <Kaemon12433> !ask
[03:02] <nemo> oh. n/m
[03:02] <drivetrax> thanks jrib
[03:02] <nemo> I have hardy-proposed enabled
[03:02] <kuahara> is this the version of gparted that i need?  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=125754
[03:02] <nemo> I wonder why.
[03:02] <starcannon> Tujalta_Surma cd burners, you said you didn't have a good one and werent sure what one to get
[03:02] <Kaemon12433> brb
[03:03] <nemo> perhaps I needed it at some point
[03:03] <Xcell> ok folks, im here, (but) if U Upgraded, im not, if you clean installed...i may an help.
[03:03] <Xcell> can
[03:03] <zcat[1]> kuahara: if you do a fresh install and tell it to use the whole disk, it should wipe the partition table and start clean. Otherwise there's a nasty trick you can do that basically sets the disk back to factory-clean
[03:03] <kuahara> if restoring files is easy with gparted, I would like to do that
[03:03] <kuahara> my wife already cried when I told her that 2nd partition was gone
[03:03] <kuahara> all the baby pics, etc... were stored there
[03:03] <jrib> kuahara: gparted doesn't restore files.  It formats partitions
[03:03] <croddy> definitely look into making backups in the future
[03:04] <croddy> a hard disk failure would have got you eventually anyway.
[03:04] <kuahara> croddy I do normally.  I use shared hosting at hostmonster
[03:04] <b0x> wat FTP Server do u recommend? a gui interface would be a preference
[03:04] <b0x> id recommend burning CDs for photos u want to keep
[03:04] <zcat[1]> oh, well it's probably all still there. You want 'gpart' which will look at the filesystem and tell you how the partition table should be
[03:04] <kuahara> I have 1.5TB of online storage
[03:04] <seadogg615> need help keeping my bluetooth elite keyboard from disconnecting
[03:04] <starcannon> kuahara gparted also lets you resize partitions in a non destructive way (caveat nothings for sure cept' death and taxes)
[03:04] <b0x> wat FTP Server do u recommend? a gui would be a preference
[03:04] <nubbie_> Banshee 1.x beta 1 is live! http://banshee-project.org
[03:04] <RequinB4> !best | b0x, i Recommend gFTP, but
[03:04] <Xcell> kuahara:  if its online..itas still there
[03:04] <Xcell> its
[03:05] <kuahara> xcell not everything was backed up
[03:05] <croddy> b0x, i like proftpd but if you need a gui to configure it you are going to be stuck with the worst of toilet FTP servers
[03:05] <kuahara> she takes pics and records videos all the time, I have other crap to do than daily backups of her junk =p
[03:05] <zcat[1]> kuahara: if all you did is remove the partition, you can set it back (gpart will figure out how it was) and everything should still be there
[03:05] <drivetrax> jrib,  when I open add/remove.. I cannot locate the file
[03:05] <kuahara> zcat thx.  will gparted do that?
[03:05] <croddy> kuahara, i bet if she reads that line she will cry again
[03:05] <Andares> !package silc
[03:05] <jrib> drivetrax: use synaptic
[03:05] <drivetrax> k
[03:05] <Andares> Hm.
[03:05] <yowshi> !pulse
[03:05] <fde> kuahara: then set up a cron job to do it for you!
[03:05] <Andares> !apt silc
[03:06] <Andares> Huh.
[03:06] <Andares> How do you run it?
[03:06] <b0x> croddy so u think the best ones are terminal operated?
[03:06] <fde> !info silc
[03:06] <^u^> !apt | Andares
[03:06] <zcat[1]> gparted will edit the partition table, although I'd probably use fdisk for this. 'gpart' will guess where the partition should be based on the underlying filesystem in the empty space
[03:06] <Xcell> kuahara:  u were the one that said it was (all) on line...roght?
[03:06] <croddy> b0x i don't think there is an FTP server in ubuntu that is configured by a means other than text files
[03:06] <Xcell> right
[03:06] <djhash> kuahara: Try Parted Magic.. if the missing partition ended up being just a hidden partition.. Parted Magic can mount it and you can copy it to either a USB drive or another partition.
[03:06] <Xcell> giggy with it son
[03:06] <unop> fde, that's an internal reference .. but what really matters is the relationship packages have with one another, the dependencies and reverse dependencies as specified in a debian control file of a source package.. apt will always try and maintain these relationships irrespective of the version of ubuntu .. meaning it is possible for you to run a mixed system feisty/gutsy, gutsy/hardy, etc
[03:07] <kuahara> xcell no
[03:07] <Andares> !info silc-pidgin
[03:07] <b0x> ok
[03:07] <b0x> so gFTP?
[03:07] <Andares> !info libsilc
[03:07] <Andares> >_>
[03:07] <dsmith_> whats the best file system beyond ext3, as ext4 is unstable would it be xfs??
[03:07] <b0x> proftpd
[03:07] <RequinB4> b0x: that seems to be the most popular GUI one
[03:07] <croddy> i believe gFTP is only a client
[03:07] <Andares> Guys, where is the libsilc package?
[03:07] <b0x> yeh it is
[03:07] <RequinB4> croddy: yes
[03:07] <b0x> i ment proftpd
[03:08] <kamui> someone please explain to me how I've disabled all the input devices in xorg.conf in ubuntu 8.04 and I STILL have a working touchscreen mouse and alps trackpad?
[03:08] <zcat[1]> dsmith_: I'd have said reiserfs in the past.. but support for that might be a bit lacking now...
[03:08] <b0x> thank you
[03:08] <Andares> !info silc-toolkit
[03:08] <Starnestommy> Andares: libsilc-1.1-2
[03:08] <croddy> well, b0x, it is what i use but it depends on your needs. there are many ftp servers in this world.
[03:08] <dsmith_> yea, heh. It will kill your 'puter..
[03:08] <fde> unop: It's not though, especially if they differ greatly in the base system... go to #debian and tell them you installed a package from sid and don't know why your stable system...
[03:08] <Andares> !info libsilc-1.1-2
[03:08] <Andares> Ah, thank you Starnestommy.
[03:08] <b0x> k thanx
[03:08] <croddy> fde maybe mwilson will be there...
[03:08] <PseudoOne> is there a way to replace my apt sources.list file I accidentaly blanked it but I haven't ran apt-get update yet
[03:08] <fde> unop: One LTS to another would differ greatly enough for instance to encounter issues.
[03:08] <shyam_k> http://howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories says about debpartial.is it an ubuntu specific package?i mean lenny repo didnt seem to have it
[03:08] <fde> croddy: nah, he switched to Fedora  :P
[03:08] <Andares> Starnestommy, will that let pidgin run silc?
[03:08] <croddy> LOL
[03:09] <unop> fde, yes, how packages are built is important, but more important is how those packages can be available to the users .. and packages are placed into the repositories with no conditions or segregation .. it the compiled packages.gz or sources.gz files that identify to clients, what packages are available to install
[03:09] <fiyawerx_> how can you tell what resolution you're running in?
[03:09] <Starnestommy> Andares: I'm not sure
[03:09] <LinuxAc> !bots
[03:09] <LinuxAc> !bot
[03:09] <LinuxAc> :s
[03:09] <djhash> PseudoOne: check if there is a backup already made..
[03:09] <shyam_k> instead debian is having debpartial-mirror which seemed not as same as debpartial
[03:09] <PseudoOne> k
[03:09] <Andares> Starnestommy, apparently this bug has been around for a few years. I see '06 in the bug report.
[03:09] <drivetrax> synaptic is getting
[03:09] <zcat[1]> fiyawerx: 'menu' button on the monitor works for me :)
[03:09] <Atavare> buenas
[03:09] <Xcell> !factoid
[03:09] <fde> unop: the = statement directly contradicts that statement... although generally it is >=
[03:09] <unop> fde, I maintain two mixed systems, one debian lenny/sid  another ubuntu gutsy/hardy .. it's not something one usually does, but i do it
[03:10] <Andares> Starnestommy, but it hasn't been enabled. Might it be against ubuntu policy to provide encrypted IM toolkits?
[03:10] <Xcell> hi Carbonflux
[03:10] <Starnestommy> Andares: it isn't against ubuntu policy
[03:10] <PseudoOne> the backup (sources.list~) appears empty too
[03:10] <croddy> Andares, pidgin-otr is definitely in
[03:10] <Carbonflux> hi Xcell heh
[03:10] <Andares> !info pidgin-otr
[03:10] <fiyawerx_> what file contains your resolution settings now?
[03:10] <kuahara> I downloaded gparted from sourceforge.  When I extract all the files to a folder and attempt to add them to an iso image, magic iso says that this is not a bootable image
[03:10] <fiyawerx_> xorg.conf doesn't have any
[03:10] <fde> unop: lenny and sid are easily maintained, they are only maybe a month apart at most... I'm not sure I'd do gutsy/hardy though, but I'll take your word for it.
[03:10] <Xcell> glad 2 c u my man
[03:11] <Ahadiel> kuahara, There's a gparted live cd iso on sourceforge somewhere
[03:11] <drivetrax> getting.. and just sitting there not doing nothing
[03:11] <kuahara> I'll look for that, thx
[03:11] <zcat[1]> kuahara:  sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:11] <fiyawerx_> !resolution
[03:11] <Xcell> Carbonflux:  your an asset please join in.
[03:11] <djhash> PseudoOne: ok.. let me give you the file i have.. its from a fresh ubuntu install
[03:11] <fde> unop: In Debian, it takes a minimum of 2 weeks for a package to go from sid to lenny if all things go well... but anyway, this is vastly off topic now.
[03:11] <unop> fde, what i would like to say in few words is, that it is entirely possible for a package with the same version string to be part of two release versions of debian/ubuntu
[03:12] <kitche> Andares: I believe pidgin actually removed silc I believe from the program but then again pidgin developers are very uptight about stuff
[03:12] <kamui> hmm
[03:12] <kuahara> zcat, I'm talking from a windows machine atm.  The linux machine is the one in distress =o
[03:12] <zcat[1]> hehe, just ran gparted on this box and noticed I'm using 'murderfs' ;)
[03:12] <PseudoOne> djhash: thanks
[03:12] <Andares> kitche, it shows pidgin having it in the about file, and my version of pidgin (2.3.1) has it.
[03:12] <fde> unop: certainly not 2 release versions of Debian... heh
[03:12] <shyam_k> ne idea about the package debpartial?
[03:12] <kamui> is there a second location other than xorg.conf that X would get information about pointing devices?
[03:12]  * croddy runs off to check on sentencing
[03:12] <animals> good naight
[03:12] <djhash> PseudoOne: no problem.. this time.. make your own backup copy ;-)
[03:12] <pawan> how to install 5200 drivers through envying
[03:12] <animals> happy day animal's http://www.youtube.com/v/xH-K9H3qpwQ&hl=en
[03:13] <PseudoOne> nano won't do it automatically :<
[03:13] <RequinB4> !envy
[03:13] <zcat[1]> kuahara: gparted's on the live CD afaik.. it's what the installer uses
[03:13] <djhash> kamui: where can i find xorg.conf? been looking for it for a while!!!
[03:13] <Kaemon12433> OK
[03:13] <fde> djhash: /etc/X11
[03:13] <PseudoOne> djhash: Hardy Heron right?
[03:13] <PseudoOne> :)
[03:13] <Kaemon12433> my sound comes out the wrong port...i have a SB live!
[03:13] <djhash> YES!!! EUREKA!!! lol.. thanks
[03:13] <Kaemon12433> any help?
[03:13] <RequinB4> !sound
[03:13] <DaveyJ> quick question
[03:13] <Kaemon12433> !sound
[03:14] <DaveyJ> how do you flush the dns cache in ubuntu?
[03:14] <djhash> !ask | DaveyJ
[03:14] <DaveyJ> i didnt
[03:14] <kamui> djhash: while I appreciate jokes at my expense, Im really at a loss to explain why I have no pointers defined in xorg.conf and it still works
[03:14] <RequinB4> kamui: That's because the new X doesn't work that way anymore
[03:14] <fde> DaveyJ: You're running BIND or similar? Or just in the browser?
[03:14] <kuahara> the live cd comes in a zip file (or similar), when I extract it and burn these files straight to CD, will this cd be bootable?
[03:14] <DaveyJ> i'm running a basic set up
[03:14] <RequinB4> kamui: It's based off of periodic "realitime" checks of your hardware
[03:14] <DaveyJ> just that google wont load
[03:14] <DaveyJ> and a bunch of images from another site wont load
[03:15] <zcat[1]> the new 'bulletproof X' will run no matter what crap you put in xorg.conf ..
[03:15] <soldats> kamui: do you mean pointer as in where the cursor sits on the screen
[03:15]  * croddy is building a secret gun to kill the bulletproof X
[03:15] <djhash> DaveyJ: have you tried disabling the network connection, then re-enabling it?
[03:15] <DaveyJ> i was using opendns on my router but i took it out
[03:15] <DaveyJ> no i have not :)
[03:15] <zcat[1]> croddy: won't work. It's bulletproof!
[03:15] <fiyawerx_> zcat[1], do you know where resolution settings are kept now?
[03:15] <kamui> soldats: I mean I removed configured mouse, trackpad, and touchpoint from my xorg pointers config and edited the appropriate section.  Yet they all still work, albet badly
[03:15] <RequinB4> zcat[1]: Who said the gun shoots bullets?
[03:15] <DaveyJ> alrighty, lets try onw
[03:15] <zcat[1]> fiyawerx: no idea
[03:15] <Gerinych> my num/caps/scroll lock lights don't light up
[03:16] <DaveyJ> and it worked! thank you
[03:16] <zcat[1]> RequinB4: true. someone needs tr work on railgun-proof X
[03:16] <djhash> DaveyJ: If you go System->Administration->Network.. then uncheck the network card.. wait 10 seconds or so.. then check it back
[03:16] <kamui> RequinB4: how do I disable this auto hardware check
[03:16] <kamui> its breaking the touchscreen driver
[03:16] <DaveyJ> well not completely... google started working
[03:16] <RequinB4> kamui: You'll have more luck learning more about how the new X works, which I haven't the slightest idea
[03:16] <fde> DaveyJ: failing that... unplug and plug back in modems and routers... for the same 10-20 secs
[03:16] <RequinB4> kamui: last resort would be to use the old X
[03:16] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: are you there?
[03:17] <DaveyJ> too bad theres no simple command like /flushdns ;)
[03:17] <kouza2> If any one is available to help me network, I would be greatly appreciative if you PM me to help me network. Please note im new to ubuntu so i may be a little bit of a noob =-/
[03:17] <djhash> DaveyJ: is someone else on your network using probably something like bittorrent or so?
[03:17] <doctor_thunder> I can't connect to google, save via proxy
[03:17] <doctor_thunder> any ideas?
[03:17] <soldats> kamui: hmm, i think in xorg the only thiong there for pointers is the wacom part, not sure though. i do know that "xev" is availiable for mapping it but im not exactly sure that makes the pointers other than the obvious which is the mouse drivers
[03:17] <DaveyJ> nah
[03:17] <shyam_k> how can i search for a package in the ubuntu repo?
[03:17] <DaveyJ> the other computers dont do much
[03:17] <shyam_k> like the debian have..
[03:17] <Kirce> so are there any python guru's here?
[03:17] <Starnestommy> shyam_k: aptitude search <package>
[03:17] <Starnestommy> Kirce: maybe in #python
[03:17] <RequinB4> shyam_k: there is a search function in synaptic, for a GUI
[03:17] <DaveyJ> wtf why am i in roaming mode?
[03:17] <fde> shyam_k: System > Administration > Synaptic ... and hit "Search" is probably what you want.
[03:18] <shyam_k> but i dont have ubuntu installed..i asked about the ubuntu site
[03:18] <doctor_thunder> has google banned ubuntu?
[03:18] <PseudoOne> no?
[03:18] <RequinB4> shyam_k: you want to search ubuntu packages without ubuntu installed? packages.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma hi, sorry am learning how to set up LVM
[03:18] <croddy> no, they still run it internally
[03:18] <Starnestommy> doctor_thunder: no
[03:18] <zcat[1]> doctor_thunder: They probably just banned firefox :)
[03:18] <shyam_k> RequinB4: thanks.
[03:18] <fde> Starnestommy: it's not advisable for new users to search that way, as what they want would cause things like 'sudo aptitude search ~dvideo ~deditor' which is hard to remember for many.
[03:18] <djhash> PseudoOne: did you get the sources.list file?
[03:18] <Starnestommy> it's being very slow for me
[03:18] <kuahara> giving it a shot I guess...extracted the gparted live cd archive file to a folder on my desktop, created an iso and burning it to disk....will see if its bootable in a minute
[03:18] <doctor_thunder> really?
[03:18] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma whats up?
[03:19] <Wellsie1116> i just want to mention that I was browsing the rooms, and this ubuntu room had the most members in the room at a given time.  The number of users also happened to be 1337.
[03:19] <croddy> yessss
[03:19] <PseudoOne> djhash: I got a copy from Ubuntu Forums not sure if it will work but I will try
[03:19] <zcat[1]> Woot, we're 1337!
[03:19] <zcat[1]> darn, someone left :(
[03:19] <djhash> PseudoOne: ok.. let me know :-)
[03:19] <soldats> zcat[1]: you called it
[03:19] <djhash> DaveyJ: you can try ifup ifdown
[03:19] <PseudoOne> zcat[1]: :( Firefox <3 Google
[03:20] <kuahara> Disk boot failure -> insert system disk and press enter
[03:20] <kuahara> gparted doesn't do the job
[03:20] <fde> Wellsie1116: It's funny, cuz it's actually sort of low compared to what it's been recently...
[03:20] <djhash> DaveyJ: it'll actually take down the interface, then bring it back up
[03:20] <starcannon> I lamed out and let the wizard set up lvm for me, maybe once I can look at it all setup I'll get a better feel for it
[03:20] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: I asked if you were talking about computers or alternate install CDs
[03:20] <starcannon> Tujalta_Surma cd burners, you said you didn't have a good one and werent sure what one to get
[03:20] <kuahara> djhash, can parted magic be used as a boot image?
[03:20] <fde> kuahara: it is a LiveCD
[03:20] <PseudoOne> djash: Well hope this works when I upgraded to hardy last time I had a kernel panic :(
[03:20] <shyam_k> ok so it seems the debpartial command described here has changed.. i would like to make a dvd what can be a replacement to that command used here http://howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[03:20] <shyam_k> ?
[03:21] <Tuojalta_Surma> I was talking about alternate install CDs
[03:21] <kuahara> fde whats does liveCD imply
[03:21] <Wellsie1116> if anyone wants the screenshot: http://kevin.home.wellsie.net/ubuntu1337.jpg
[03:21] <elmer> The top and bottom panels are not showing up. Anybody know what's wrong?
[03:21] <djhash> kuahara: It is meant to be used as a boot image.. an it'll load itself onto the memory so that you can eject the CD after you boot it up..
[03:21] <kouza2> I need help connecting with my toshiba satellite (wireless) I have a atheros wireless card and was hoping for any assistance (Would prefer a PM over trying to fix it in here)
[03:21] <kuahara> djhash, liveCD or parted magic?
[03:21] <fde> kuahara: You boot to it and it runs off the CD rather than on the harddrive... it basically just runs 'gparted' for you in a self hosting environment.
[03:22] <kuahara> fde, all I can say is I tried and my comp doesn't seem to think its a bootable disk
[03:22] <kuahara> I burned the iso to cd
[03:22] <fde> kuahara: You're sure your system is set to boot from the CD first?
[03:22] <kuahara> positive
[03:22] <kouza2> e and werent sure what one to get
[03:22] <kouza2> * elmer (
[03:22] <Tuojalta_Surma> starcannon: I was talking about alternate install CDs
[03:22] <fde> kuahara: the md5sum checked out?
[03:22] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma ah lol, got crossed up. Tuojalta_Surma another option if you have a windows install there would be to see if wubi will let you get it installed, the problem is to ambiguous for my level of expertise unfortunately
[03:23] <zcat[1]> kuahara: silly question, but did you burn the iso as an image, not a file on the CD?
[03:23] <chamunks> is there an easy way to downgrade my mozilla firefox in hardy because beta 3 rc5 is sooo bloaty its rediculous
[03:23] <kuahara> when I download the livecd it is in bz2 file format
[03:23] <fde> kuahara: you're sure you don't just have a .iso on the CD, rather than a full CD layout?
[03:23] <kuahara> I extracted the bz2 and saved all the files as iso
[03:23] <kuahara> then burned the iso to disk
[03:23] <PseudoOne> djhash: meh, dcc doesn't seem to work well in konversation here :(
[03:23] <djhash> kuahara: LiveCD means a fully operational Operating System running from a CD without writing anything to the hard drive, and using the CD as its resource to read files from. Parted Magic is just like that, except that if you have enough memory in your PC it'll load the whole CD into memory, so you can use the CD-Drive for other purposes.
[03:23] <Kaemon12433> sheesh the forums wont help my sound prob!
[03:23] <kouza2> Need help networking, please pm if you have knowledge with this stuff (so i can keep up lol)
[03:24] <amenado> kuahara-> do you have an existing linux? you may be able to boot from a hd, by copying the livecd (expanded) and modify your  menu.lst entry
[03:24] <Kaemon12433> guides dont hepl my prob!
[03:24] <chamunks> or maybe is there a decent alternative to firefox?
[03:24] <kuahara> amenado, no this is the pickle I'm in.  Whatever I do will need to be done from a livecd
[03:24] <patifa> Kaemon12433 calm down, what's going on?
[03:24] <amenado> kuahara-> what have you done?
[03:24] <Kaemon12433> it's my sound
[03:24] <PseudoOne> djash: DCC status came a failure :( I've never been able to get DCC to work correctly with Konversation :)
[03:24] <kuahara> long story lol
[03:24] <Kaemon12433> sound comes out of the wrong port
[03:24] <Kaemon12433> on my sb live
[03:24] <Kaemon12433> yesterday it came out the port before last
[03:24] <john-mike> Hi, I have a question about ports and Ubuntu Hardy.  Do ports automatically open up when you start up a program, or do you manually have to open them yourself?
[03:24] <magichere> hei ,Is anybody could　make the HDMI audio of nvidia`s graphic card ?
[03:25] <amenado> kuahara tell me the size of your vmlinuz  .. i assume this is 8.04 ?
[03:25] <Tuojalta_Surma> Thanks for the help starcannon
[03:25] <CyberAgeVoodoo> Need help please. I know it's not supported, but how do I uninstall the ATI Control center and driver? all I see is a blank white screen and the propietary driver that shows up is wrong, shows firegl instead of radeon x1300
[03:25] <fde> !enter | Kaemon12433
[03:25] <Kaemon12433> now it only comes out the last port. so i cant adjust sound or anything!
[03:25] <Starnestommy> john-mike: they open automatically by default
[03:25] <kuahara> amenado, will explain in a pm if you want
[03:25] <Starnestommy> john-mike: if you're behind a router, you might need to manually configure it
[03:25] <jvictor> Hi People, What is the best choice for IM with video and audio support?
[03:25] <starcannon> Tuojalta_Surma sorry I couldn't get you solved :(   but blinking cursor in corner of screen isn't alot for my level of ability to go on :(
[03:25] <fde> kuahara: Can you look at the CD on your other OS, does it look normal, or is there just one file (the iso) on it?
[03:25] <kuahara> how do I get this bz2 file to CD in such a way that my other machine will boot off it?
[03:25] <djhash> PseudoOne: Let me see.. do you know a site I can upload it to so you can download it?
[03:25] <Kaemon12433> and first things these admin guys do is tell em to go to the guides
[03:26] <kuahara> fde, file on disk
[03:26] <amenado> kuahara just tell me the size of the vmlinuz and lets see if its compatible still
[03:26] <john-mike> Starnestommy: Ah, ok! I've tried multiple times to forward a port on the router and have had no luck so I was thinking maybe it was Ubuntu blocking it still.
[03:26] <patifa> Kaemon12433: have you looked at the full sound control dialog yet?
[03:26] <Kaemon12433> WELl the guide sdont help this particular prob
[03:26] <chamunks> is anyone else getting this problem when i load up firefox 3 beta rc5 (what seems to be packed with hardy) my cpu usage skyrockets
[03:26] <djhash> Kuahara: the file you download should be an ISO...
[03:26] <Kaemon12433> not yet
[03:26] <kuahara> it wasn't
[03:26] <Kaemon12433> how do i?
[03:26] <patifa> chamunks: yeah.  There's a bunch of bug reports on how firefox uses a ton of CPU and thrashes the disk.
[03:26] <zcat[1]> fde: He extracted all the files from a tgz and made an iso (for all practical purposed, extracted files and put them on a CD) .. it probably won't be bootable
[03:26] <Starnestommy> john-mike: the program might be binding to 127.0.0.1 and not 0.0.0.0
[03:26] <fde> kuahara: Yeah, that's bad... people are recommending 'isoburn' a Windows app...
[03:26] <PseudoOne> hmm i've used http://www.pipebytes.com/ that seemed to work :)
[03:26] <slestak> i have installed hardy on two machines succesfully with a particular cd.  Its failing on the 3rd machine seriously.  I've seen some forum posts wrt 2.6.24-16 kernel and optical drive issues.
[03:26] <patifa> Kaemon12433: GNOME?
[03:27] <djhash> Kuahara: http://exo.enarel.eu/mirror/partedmagic/
[03:27] <Kaemon12433> yea
[03:27] <frogscott> can someone tell me if I am no longer seeing my icons for pidgin and skype messengers in the task bar when they are minimized how to view them again?
[03:27] <chamunks> patifa, it makes me soo sad to see a browser that seems to have gathered such a following have so many issues lately...
[03:27] <amenado> kuahara did you use debootstrap to download the baselines ?
[03:27] <starcannon> chamunkks yeah FF3 has a few bells and whistles its sucking down a cool 73.4 mb of ram here, its asleep atm so its not biting my cpu
[03:27] <fde> zcat[1]: fwiw, your /boot or / partitions likely aren't bootable either.
[03:27] <slestak> i have base system installed, how can i disable the cdrom as a repo in vi so i can download rest of ubuntu and install from repo
[03:27] <john-mike> Starnestommy: Hmmm...could you explain that to me a little or point me in the right direction to understand what you mean?
[03:27] <Starnestommy> frogscott: enable the notification area in the panel
[03:27] <kuahara> djhash, thx I'll try that
[03:27] <Starnestommy> john-mike: which program are you trying to run?
[03:27] <patifa> chamunks: it acts ok on Windows, so I don't understand what's going on unless the Ubuntu modifications are screwing it up.
[03:27] <frogscott> thanks let me try
[03:27] <slestak> the only line in my sources.list is the cdrom repo
[03:27] <Kaemon12433> yea i'm using GNOME
[03:28] <zcat[1]> fde: without GRUB in my MBR, no.. and an iso without a bootsector isn't bootable either
[03:28] <john-mike> Starnestommy: I'm beyond even just setting it up, now I'm so frustrated at trying to do it I want to understand how this junk works! ;) I'm trying Transmission.
[03:28] <kuahara> that server is only feeding me 120k/sec  =p
[03:28] <frogscott> lol thanks alot Starnes
[03:28] <chamunks> patifa, its mostly when any flash is involved but not just when it is.  Like earlier today i connected to my torrentflux box and it just kept freezing and un freezing every few moments
[03:28] <kouza2> Need help networking, please pm if you have knowledge with this stuff (so i can keep up lol)
[03:28] <kuahara> my hosting server sits on an OC-48 backbone
[03:28] <Jinxed-> hey
[03:28] <fde> zcat[1]: he said there is only 1 file on the disk... the iso ... a common error.
[03:28] <Jinxed-> What is a good program to play dvds on linux?
[03:28] <Kaemon12433> who do i do?
[03:28] <starcannon> Jinxed LinDVD
[03:28] <fde> Jinxed-: Anything really...
[03:29] <starcannon> Jinxed or VLC either way :)
[03:29] <amenado> Jinxed--> vlc seems okay
[03:29] <djhash> PseudoOne: http://host01.pipebytes.com/get.php?key=10117898949938
[03:29] <patifa> Kaemon12433: right click the sound control applet in the top applet bar and click Open Volume Control.  Choose Edit > Preferences from the Volume Control.  Add a few sound controls.  See if you can get some different behavior from it.
[03:29] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: I am still unable to get file sharing to work.. It worked when I was using 7.10, but now that im on 8.04 it doesnt.. any chance its a problem with 8.04?
[03:29] <Jinxed-> also anyone know why my computer monitor is much darker then my lcd monitor, but only for linux?
[03:29] <Sunx> ok i solved the problem of vmware not running after upgrade to 8.04....in case any else in the future or now have this problem here is the link that was extremely helpful:  http://www.howtoforge.com/vmware-server-on-ubuntu8.04
[03:29] <kouza2> Need help networking, please pm if you have knowledge with this stuff (so i can keep up lol)
[03:29] <Chrysalis> when i update something with package installer do i need to uninstall the old version first?
[03:29] <fde> Jinxed-: In most Linux media apps, it is a case of enabled the codecs, and picking a frontend you like.
[03:29] <Starnestommy> kouza2: just ask your questions about networking
[03:29] <zcat[1]> fde: he said he extracted the files from a tgz and built an ISO from them, I thought. can't be bothered scrolling back, but it won't be a bootable ISO unless one of those files was a boot image and he knew what to do with it.
[03:29] <jescis> is it possible to use a usb keyboard during bootup with grub?
[03:29] <PseudoOne> thanks :)
[03:29] <amenado> kouza2-> stay here so others can share the learnings
[03:29] <patifa> Chrysalis: if it's a properly done package, it 'conflicts' itself with the older version, causing the older version to be removed as the new one is installed.
[03:29] <Ubuntu_nub> I'm having a problem with firefox, using ubuntu 8.04.  When I middle click on a link sometimes it opens a new tab, however sometimes it goes back for some odd reason.  Anyone know whats causing this?
[03:30] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ your guess on that would be better than mine, I haven't used samba in over 5 years, since I made the complete switch to linux, I just ftp stuff now
[03:30] <fde> zcat[1]: yes... he created an ISO, and burned that ISO to the CD... which resulted in a .iso on the disc... he has confirmed this.
[03:30] <chamunks> patifa, i just dont want to be running beta software for the next month and a half till ff3 is finally released and ill have to wait for my addons to update.
[03:30] <Kaemon12433> now it syays restart?
[03:30] <Kaemon12433> ok
[03:30] <Kaemon12433> brb
[03:30] <kouza2> I have a toshiba Satellite with Atheros card, and the wireless network does not show up, it acts like i dont even have a wireless card
[03:30] <patifa> jescis: mine works.  If your BIOS can't use a USB keyboard (for example to access the BIOS settings), it's doubtful you'll be able to use it to control GRUB
[03:30] <Aval0n> guys which one of these is more likely to be my cpu temp? http://pastebin.org/34371 the top or bottom?
[03:30] <djhash> !pm | kouza2
[03:30] <djhash> oops
[03:30] <zcat[1]> fde: well, if he's created an ISO and burned it correctly, it likely still wouldn't be bootable
[03:30] <djhash> i meant to send something else
[03:30] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ if there is a samba version change between the 2 distro's thats where I'd look first
[03:30] <Chrysalis> patifa: ok thanks
[03:30] <patifa> kouza2: Your lucky, my friend's toshiba satellite spontaneously reboots if he tries to use his wireless :\
[03:30] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: it looks like there was a problem very similar when edgy came out.. and alot of documentation on it.. but nothing is workin now..
[03:30] <PseudoOne> O.o that's a sources.list file :)
[03:31] <djhash> kouza2: are you registered? i tried to PM you
[03:31] <kuahara> hate downloading from slow servers  =/
[03:31] <FFEMTcJ> ill take a look
[03:31] <kouza2> I tried to read the guides but, none made much since to me
[03:31] <amenado> kouza2-> lshw -C network and paste that  in pastebin,  add the info of  iwconfig; ifconfig;
[03:31] <fivehorizons> Is there anyone available who can help me with a VNC problem?
[03:31] <zcat[1]> unless he has an el-torito image somewhere knows how to create a bootable ISO with it
[03:31] <fde> zcat[1]: you can force it even if its not by only setting the cdrom as a boot device... so that's not an issue.
[03:31] <DaveyJ_> that kinda worked
[03:31] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ hang on I'm gonna take a look-see at some docs on samba
[03:31] <kouza2> no idea amenado what that means lol
[03:31] <Jinxed-> does anyone know of any good hardware websites? My laptop has just pissed me off one too many times... I need to get new computer
[03:31] <zcat[1]> fde: You can??!!
[03:31] <kuahara> zcat, I'm just using magic iso atm
[03:31] <FFEMTcJ> ty
[03:31] <fde> zcat[1]: yup... I've made that mistake before... heh
[03:31] <kouza2> DJ i tried to talk back lol
[03:31] <jc> anyone having trouble accessing their cdrom after upgrading to hardy?
[03:32] <kouza2> I thault you were ignoring me
[03:32] <amenado> kouza2-> now its time for you to learn the command line interface, open up a terminal and type  lshw -C network
[03:32] <djhash> !register | kouza2
[03:32] <Aval0n> Hey, this is an output from lm-sensors.. is the top or bottom more likely to be my CPU temp? http://pastebin.org/34371
[03:32] <chamunks> patifa, i had a toshiba p30 its soo friggin buggy its rediculous and the mainboard has everything built in so something goes ie. Power circuit your screwed.
[03:32] <jc> or rather, after I upgraded to hardy I can no longer get to my cdrom from /media/cdrom
[03:32] <jescis> patifa: is there a setting or is that "out of the box"?
[03:32] <amenado> Jinxed--> if you are going to throw your laptop, please throw it my way.. :P
[03:32] <patifa> jescis: ?
[03:32] <patifa> oh
[03:33] <kuahara> I'm one of those that believes the image should either come bootable or there should be an obvious way to tell the image burning software to make this 'bootable image' bootable.
[03:33] <imkouza2> ok
[03:33] <bpat1434> what is the 8.0 release of Ubuntu called ?
[03:33] <kuahara> I don't give it much of my attention beyond that
[03:33] <Aval0n> bpat1434: hardy heron
[03:33] <Starnestommy> bpat1434: 8.04 is Hardy Heron
[03:33] <Jinxed-> amenado, I don't think you would want it... Pentium M 760 1 gig RAM geforce 6600 80 gig hardrive
[03:33] <patifa> jescis: It's typically an out-of-the-box, though I suppose you could, if you tried hard enough, disable USB functionality in the BIOS.
[03:33] <Hammer89> ﻿ bpat1434: 8.04 is called Hard Heron.... 8.10 is called Intrepid Ibex
[03:33] <elmer> The top and bottom panels are not showing up. Anybody know what's wrong?
[03:33] <Jinxed-> I think I might take a sledge hammer to it
[03:33] <djhash> Avalon: both.. one is measuring from inside the processor the other is measuring from outside
[03:33] <amenado> Jinxed--> i have a use for it and can use it..hehe
[03:34] <Aval0n> DJones: which is the one that you are to be concerned about?
[03:34] <Aval0n> err djhash that was for you
[03:34] <shyam_k> hi packages.ubuntu.com says me that debpartial was in gutsy but not in hardy.. what command can i use instead as this how to uses it i am planning to sell some dvds here:) as per rms' advice to "make most of it" :) so we can make it a deal(kidding.. no offense);-)
[03:34] <imkouza2> amen i did that
[03:34] <imkouza2> now what lol
[03:34] <shyam_k> ops sorry for that junk
[03:34] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ check this out, I think it may help, the thread is kinda long, but its samba on ubuntu 8.04 and the thread is marked as solved, I'd try what this cat did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678868
[03:34] <shyam_k> i got a C-v wrong:(
[03:34] <amenado> !who | kouza2
[03:34] <Aval0n> djhash: which would be the one that bios reports.
[03:34] <zcat[1]> kuahara: most ppl build bootable iso's .. windows has a remarkable capacity to interpret them as archives, so people think they have to 'unzip' them, or in some other way mess up what really should be very simple. In linux you just right-click and select 'burn to disk' and you get a bootable disk from it.
[03:35] <jescis> patifa: I got into the bios fine, but it never moved a menu item at the menu list :/
[03:35] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: ill look at it
[03:35] <kouza2> Amenado- I typed what you said to type now what do you need me to do
[03:35] <kuahara> zcat:  one of the many +'s about linux  =p
[03:35] <amenado> kouza2-> you have to paste it in pastebin..
[03:35] <shyam_k> hi packages.ubuntu.com says me that debpartial was in gutsy but not in hardy.. what command can i use instead as this how to uses it http://howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[03:35] <amenado> !pastebin | kouza2
[03:35] <hobbzilla> what is an easy way to write a message to user's telnet screens?
[03:35] <john-mike> Starnestommy: Any ideas?
[03:35] <Andares> 1337 people, guys.
[03:36] <djhash> Kuahara: usually its the VCORE temp. but it depends on the bios...
[03:36] <Andares> I find this hilarious.
[03:36] <fivehorizons> Can someone please help me with a VNC problem?
[03:36] <kouza2> *smashes his head into the desk*
[03:36] <plik> zcat[1]: wouldn't surpride me if MS deliberately made it harder for people to burn ISOs  ....
[03:36] <djhash> Avalon: usually its the VCORE temp. but it depends on the bios...
[03:36] <Andares> NOOOOO 2 people get out. >:(
[03:36] <fde> zcat[1]: One of many cases that show Windows is designed for users, Linux is designed by users  :)
[03:36] <chamunks> wow even firefox 2 in the repo's is crapping out like crazy wtf
[03:36] <hobbzilla> I have tried echo'ing text to redirect to /dev/pts/#  but it comes up as garbled text (users have termcap set to vt320)
[03:36] <amenado> hobbzilla-> man talk
[03:36] <starcannon> anyone got a working xorg.conf for an Everex Cloudbook using the latest drivers from linux.via.com.tw ? I have compiz working with them but have a flickering screen
[03:36] <patifa> jescis: But you got into the BIOS by pressing a key?  I can't see why grub wouldn't work, then, with a USB keyboard.  It's using the built-in functionality of the motherboard to use your keyboard, until it boots an OS which can load real USB drivers.
[03:36] <zcat[1]> plik: in vista, they made the default CD format 'not quite iso9660'
[03:36] <Aval0n> djhash: so which was vcore top or bottom on that pastbin
[03:36] <djhash> Kuahara: how are you doing?
[03:36] <chris062689> Hello world! :)
[03:36] <hobbzilla> amenado: I am familiar with talk. I don't want to start a conversation.
[03:36] <djhash> kuahara: top.. and sorry its not VCORE.. just Core..
[03:36] <Bogaurd_> how can i 'cat' a gzipped log file?
[03:37] <plik> zcat[1]: exactly... they have nothing to gain by people trying free OSs
[03:37] <Starnestommy> Bogaurd_: zcat
[03:37] <zcat[1]> Bogaurd_: zcat :)
[03:37] <amenado> hobbzilla-> man wall
[03:37] <hobbzilla> amendado: I just need to send them a message like "System is going down"
[03:37] <tuxus> Got a problem printing with 7.10  to my LaserJet 4 on LPT1  Printer works, however, I can't get rid off a grey background on anything I print (document, webpage) I tried another driver, but that doesn't make a difference. Anyone have any experience with this issue?
[03:37] <Bogaurd_> starcannon, zcat[1], thanks!
[03:37] <plik> zcat[1]: SO WHY MAKE IT EASY FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T KNOW TOOO MUCH
[03:37] <Starnestommy> john-mike: I don't use bittorrent
[03:37] <kuahara> afk 1 sec
[03:37] <Mattevt> Can anyone tell me why www.pandora.com doesn't work in FF? It's website for personalized radio stations.
[03:37] <starcannon> a good iso burner for winders was always nero, usually a trial version available out there some where
[03:37] <patifa> "<zcat[1]> Bogaurd_: zcat :)"  I'm keeping that for posterity.
[03:37] <djhash> Avalon: top.. and sorry its not VCORE.. just Core..
[03:37] <john-mike> Starnestommy: Ah, ok! Thanks though!
[03:37] <plik> oops, sorry about the caps
[03:37] <hobbzilla> amenado: thanks... wall looks promising.
[03:37] <amenado> hobbzilla-> thats a feature/option  on shutdown command
[03:37] <starcannon> Bogaurd what'd I do, I forgot
[03:37] <Aval0n> hmm so the top one is the one that is more common
[03:37] <cj_sze2> hello to all
[03:37] <Aval0n> it actually has a core 0 and a core 1
[03:38] <fde> starcannon: you have no idea how often I get that feeling  :P
[03:38] <Bogaurd_> starcannon, sorry, I meant to thanks Starnestommy ;)
[03:38] <jescis> patifa: maybe because it's a microsoft keyboard ;)
[03:38] <starcannon> Bogaurd_ doh I shoulda just rolled with it lol
[03:38] <plik> starcannon: Nero has become serious bloatware lately
[03:38] <RyanPrior> starcannon: Nero isn't needed on Windows. Infra Recorder does an excellent job.
[03:38] <patifa> jescis: LOL  It's not a wireless keyboard with a USB dongle is it?
[03:39] <starcannon> plik i dont doubt it, oldversion.com or some such should get you a nice old copy of nero5 though
[03:39] <jescis> patifa: no
[03:39] <plik> even cdburnerxp does the job for a little free app
[03:39] <kouza2> dang i dont know about mirc either lol
[03:39] <starcannon> RyanPrior ah good
[03:39] <plik> true..
[03:39] <djhash> Aval0n: commonly its the top one.. since the sensor is inside the chip..
[03:39] <fivehorizons> Seeking someone with knowledge of VNC and SSH... msg me
[03:39] <RyanPrior> !anyone | fivehorizons
[03:39] <patifa> jescis: Confuzzled me, then.  There's no reason if your keyboard can interact with the BIOS that it can't interact with GRUB.
[03:39] <zcat[1]> RyanPrior: depends.. do you want a program to just burn cd's .. or something that justifies your recent purchase of another 2G of ram...
[03:39] <zfzf> Does this bug related to GDB reoccurs on hardy ? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=475206
[03:39] <Mattevt> pandora radio (www.pandora.com) usually works in windows, but I can't get it to load in FF in hardy. Any ideas?
[03:40] <jc> anyone know how to fix the optical drive problem in hardy?
[03:40] <patifa> Mattevt: You need flash.
[03:40] <zcat[1]> Mattevt: got flash?
[03:40] <starcannon> Mattevt I switched to shoutcast, zcat[1] lol
[03:40] <john-mike> One more question: how can I make a partition mount on bootup everytime?
[03:40] <Mattevt> I do have flash
[03:40] <starcannon> just had a mental image of a Holywood star with flash mustache
[03:41] <fde> john-mike: add it to /etc/fstab
[03:41] <zcat[1]> is pandora flash or java? I think it's flash...
[03:41] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I have two instances of compiz.real running, with one of them (the parasite) taking up most of my CPU.  I can't kill it.  Can anyone help me?
[03:41] <patifa> Pandora is flash with mp3 decoding.
[03:41] <john-mike> Thanks fde!
[03:41] <starcannon> jdsbluedevl it comes back after a reboot?
[03:41] <fde> jdsbluedevl: you can log out and back in to kill it... it's a child of X
[03:41] <zcat[1]> jdsbluedevl: kill -9 usually works
[03:42] <fde> john-mike: if you don't understand syntax of that file, ask  :)
[03:42] <jdsbluedevl> reloading X doesn't stop it, but I want to see what I can do before rebooting
[03:42] <john-mike> Ok!
[03:42] <fde> zcat[1]: wouldn't if it's a zombie... he wasn't specific, so making sure, you're right though of course  :)
[03:42] <zcat[1]> fde: I wish that was true.. something in my wife's gnome session just won't die when she logs out and prevents her from logging in again. I still haven't gotton to the bottom of it. Usually she just reboots and complains to me about it later
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> it worked.  thx zcat
[03:43] <starcannon> jdsbluedevl sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:43] <jdsbluedevl> starcannon: zcat solved my problem.  thx anyways
[03:43] <starcannon> doh i missed it
[03:43] <fde> zcat[1]: ahh, then my apologies
[03:43] <Dominion> my evo mail has been crashing since the last update
[03:44] <fde> Dominion: did you let it file a bug report?
[03:44] <zcat[1]> fde: 99% of the time logging out kills all children. Sometimes the little buggers just won't quit
[03:44] <Dominion> yeah
[03:44] <Fezzler> I don't think Hardy works with nvidia and the GeForce FX 5500.  If I select Extra, it kicks compiz off.
[03:44] <fde> Dominion: that's all you can really do I'm afraid.
[03:44] <starcannon> lol zcat[1]
[03:44] <slestak> clean install of hardy going onto machine.  my console text is starting off the screen, below bottom of terminal
[03:44] <kuahara> god
[03:44] <kuahara> freakin women
[03:44] <kuahara> can gparted fix that too
[03:45] <starcannon> kuahara possibly but its still pre-alpha
[03:45]  * fde marks bug WORKSFORME
[03:45] <ep0ch> good god almighty ubuntu must be popular
[03:45] <romulo> hi, for some magical reason my fglrx driver (proprietary) doesnt work after a upgrade, ive tried to see on the hardware drivers and it is not there, after reinstalling the restricted modules it gets there but after a reboot it disappears and doesnt work, suggestions?
[03:45] <slestak> any way way i can affect console resolution of running machine?  i dont have xorg on here yet, my install failed due to cd read errors.
[03:45] <kuahara> my wife takes 20 minutes to give me 5 minutes of information filled with long breaks and side-conversation
[03:45] <zcat[1]> we've been dipping in and out of '1337' all afternoon.. :)
[03:46] <ep0ch> kuahara, install Lingua::EN::Summarize into her
[03:46] <slestak> cd is not bad, ive used it on 2 other machines
[03:46] <Gman99999> My microphone just stopped working, Im using hardy heron it worked great before, but for some odd reason it no longer works and I have changed nothing, Ive fiddled with all of the sound nobs is there anything else I can so
[03:46] <fde> romulo: sudo -c 'echo fglrx >> /etc/modules'
[03:46] <Gman99999> do**
[03:46] <romulo> fde, i cant even modprobe it
[03:46] <kuahara> well, I put parted magic on cd, threw it in the comp and I am just now getting to stare at it and figure out what I need to do
[03:46] <kuahara> its "scanning all devices"
[03:46] <ryan__> anyone here?
[03:47] <kuahara> holy shit
[03:47] <romulo> fde, the module isnt where it was supposed to be
[03:47] <Fezzler> Is Hardy having know bug issues with nvidia and compiz?  Worked great under Feisty and Gutsy.
[03:47] <kuahara> it actually sees my entire drive
[03:47] <fde> romulo: does dmesg say anything enlightening?
[03:47] <starcannon> kuahara parted is a wonderful thing
[03:47] <romulo> fde, nothing -_-
[03:47] <kellnola> kuahara, i have no issues
[03:47] <fivehorizons> I get the error message "Connection Failed - Error reading protocol" when trying to connect to my VNC server using Ultra VNC tunneled through Putty. If I try VNC using the server IP directly, it works. What's the deal?
[03:47] <elmer> The top and bottom panels are not showing up. Anybody know what's wrong?
[03:47] <fde> romulo: what does modprobe tell you?
[03:47] <jc> anyone know how to get optical drives working under hardy?
[03:47] <kellnola> Fezzler, (i meant) i have no issues
[03:47] <kuahara> ok...someone who has used parted magic before:  How do I "fix" the partitions so they are accessible by other OS's?
[03:48] <starcannon> jc like a usb drive or an internal?
[03:48] <Fezzler> kellnola: Did you do fresh install or upgrade to Hardy?
[03:48] <romulo> fde, /lib/modules/2.6.24-17-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko not found
[03:48] <romulo> and its really not there
[03:48] <kuahara> heh...parted magic thinks it sees 350GB, this is a 250GB drive
[03:48] <kellnola> Fezzler, upgrade, but I'd never bothered with compiz before at all
[03:48] <zcat[1]> kuahara: score!
[03:48] <fde> romulo: what is the full version of ubuntu-restricted-modules? (I bet it's -16)
[03:48] <jc> starcannon: internal - after upgrading from gutsy the drives are not visible  /media/cdrom
[03:49] <kouza2> Amenado- im going to try to keep up but, will likely fail.... badly what do you need me to do after the lslw -c network?
[03:49] <starcannon> jc even with media inserted?
[03:49] <romulo> fde, what you mean?
[03:49] <chris062689> Is it really true Hardy is really worse than Feisty?  Or is it just a bunch of trolls? =D
[03:49] <kuahara> meaning there is clearly something wrong with it
[03:49] <chuy_max> is there an app to program the extra buttons of a mouse?
[03:49] <romulo> chris062689, from my experiences with hardy and from what friends told me, it sucks =P
[03:49] <romulo> gutsy was alot better
[03:49] <kuahara> someone said I can use this to restore the partition table back to the way it was.  How?
[03:49] <fde> romulo: 'dpkg -l ubuntu-restricted-modules* | grep ^ii' <-- should return one line... what does it say?
[03:49] <jc> starcannon: yep the media can be opened with the gui, but from a terminal if I type ls /media/cdrom nothing is there
[03:50] <mshade> say anyone else having trouble connecting to google?
[03:50] <jmckinzi1> can anyone help with a java problem "aplet not initialized with ubuntu hardy and firefox 3?
[03:50] <zcat[1]> chris062689: well, i'm pretty sure it's slower in the same 256M ram ...
[03:50] <kouza2> Amenado- im going to try to keep up but, will likely fail.... badly what do you need me to do after the lslw -c network?
[03:50] <starcannon> checking it out on my machine real quick jc brb
[03:50] <fde> romulo: actually, no, 2 lines... the one with the numbers, like 2.6.24-16
[03:50] <romulo> no packages found matching ubuntu-restricted-modules*
[03:51] <fde> romulo: 'dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules* | grep ^ii' sorry
[03:51] <zcat[1]> chris062689: I disagree with some of the changes, but there are a lot of bugfixes too. Overall I'd say it's an improvement, I just need to bump up the ram to make room for it
[03:51] <romulo> okkies let me see
[03:51]  * kuahara sighs
[03:51] <jmckinzi1> ﻿can anyone help with a java problem "aplet not initialized with ubuntu hardy and firefox 3?
[03:51] <zcat[1]> !restricted | romulo
[03:51] <amenado> kouza2-> well you cant keep up, am out of here for now..i have to help my kid
[03:51] <romulo> fde, 2.6.24-17.35
[03:51] <zcat[1]> hmm.. not the one I was after.. !repos?
[03:51] <starcannon> jc odd mine shows up in media, have you looked in mnt or out on the root tree?
[03:51] <romulo> fde, both installed
[03:52] <zcat[1]> !repos
[03:52] <ep0ch> how are you gentlemen?!
[03:52] <kuahara> djhash still around?
[03:52] <romulo> fde, after a reboot, the ko goes awa
[03:52] <sexcopter> hi, i'm in need of a little help. i'm in a live session (hardy), trying to install, and i keep getting an error 5 (input/output error). I know the cause, it's a flaky cd-rom drive which is past its sell-by date. i'm wondering what i can do about it. i have a usb dvd burner which is much more reliable, is there a way to boot from that instead?
[03:52] <Fezzler> !compiz
[03:52] <jmckinzi1> ﻿can anyone help with a java problem "aplet not initialized with ubuntu hardy and firefox 3?
[03:52] <Karcamo[x]> hi !
[03:52] <zcat[1]> !repos | romulo you need universe / multiverse I think
[03:52] <jmckinzi1> ﻿can anyone help with a java problem "aplet not initialized with ubuntu hardy and firefox 3?
[03:52] <sexcopter> or, can i move the files over myself to the harddrive somehow?
[03:53] <kuahara> On 1 of the partitions it sees that 3GB are used and 124.9GB is free.  On this partition I had about 80GB of files stored
[03:53] <jc> starcannon: not in mnt yet, I'll do that now
[03:53] <kuahara> how do I recover it?
[03:53] <Fezzler> This is my last attempt at this.  Anyone know why I can't get Compiz to fully work with HArdy, nvidia GeFOrce Fx 5500?
[03:53] <romulo> zcat[1], i tough i already had those but i will recheck
[03:53] <romulo> thanks
[03:53] <fde> romulo: ahh... then I was wrong... I don't even see a .ko in that package though via dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-17-generic | grep fglrx
[03:53] <Karcamo[x]> look this link http://kataix.umag.cl/laboratorio/node/200
[03:53] <jc> starcannon: nothin in mnt, or in the root
[03:53] <starcannon> sexcoptor if your computer supports booting from usb device (you may have to set the boot order in bios) you should be fine, I haven't seen a computer that wouldn't boot from usb in a very long time, so I'd try setting up the boot order in bios, some computers will give you a boot menu if you press escape at post as wel
[03:54] <jc> starcannon: did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[03:54] <jcsmith> hello all, i just installed 8.04 on a new dell xps m1530 and i found the i8042.nomux=1 trick to make the touchpad work, however on hardy 64 bit the horizontal and vertical scroll bars do not work, any ideas?
[03:54] <kuahara> zcat, fde, djhash...any of you used parted magic before?
[03:54] <starcannon> jc clean install, i keep /home on a seperate partition so that I can afford that luxury
[03:54] <zcat[1]> kuahara: how you fix it (and if it can be fixed) depends a lot on how you broke it in the first place. Those files might be gone.. :(
[03:54] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: nothin with that thread.. i threw a 7.10 live cd in another computer, and got farther on that then I am on my 8.04 installed.. still cant see the computers tho
[03:54] <fde> kuahara: I've used gparted ... but your question isn't specific enough.
[03:54] <kuahara> zcat, I put in a windows XP boot disk, selected the 125GB partition, deleted it, then it showed back up as an 8MB partition.
[03:55] <sexcopter> starcannon: if i hit f12 i get a boot menu, and there's the option of "usb flash device", but that just seems to sit and do nothing
[03:55] <zcat[1]> kuahara: I've recovered lost partitions using gpart and fdisk before... but not over IRC..
[03:55] <jc> starcannon: I've seen lots of posts in the forum about issues with the optical drives, but so far nothing really helpful
[03:55] <Karcamo[x]> look this link http://kataix.umag.cl/laboratorio/node/200 about ubuntu !! :)
[03:55] <romulo> fde, after reinstalling the package i got fglrx modprobe'd
[03:55] <Dark-Fx> /bin/sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[03:55] <Dark-Fx> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[03:55] <starcannon> FFEMTcJ dang man I'm at a loss I'd set something up here and see about it, but I'm in the middle of building my first server
[03:55] <romulo> but im afraid it will go away after a boot wich is very strange
[03:55] <sexcopter> starcannon: but is it possible to "burn" the ubuntu cd to a usb pen drive?
[03:55] <FFEMTcJ> lol.. ok starcannon
[03:55] <romulo> fde, anyway, let me relog in gnome
[03:55] <romulo> brb
[03:55] <fde> romulo: it is in /etc/modules now?
[03:55] <kuahara> there was a 130GB partition with my files stored on it.  I didn't touch this one with windows.  I put ubuntu liveCD in and force mounted it, then rebooted the computer.  Thats it
[03:55] <romulo> fde, it was there before
[03:55] <kuahara> after the force mount, it said that 129GB of space was free
[03:55] <zcat[1]> sexcopter: there's a iso-to-usb script somewhere.. try google?
[03:55] <dimas_loserkids> aluw
[03:56] <kuahara> now parted magic sees the same partition and says that 124GB is free
[03:56] <sexcopter> zca
[03:56] <sexcopter> zcat[1]: i'll have a look, thanks
[03:56] <jc> starcannon: would you mind showing me 1) your fstab and 2 an ls -la in /media ? want to see how different it is from mine
[03:56] <kuahara> there was more than 80GB used before this started
[03:56] <starcannon> jc sure, hang on i'll pastebin it
[03:56] <Mrafrohead> I am having a heck of a time decrypting in thunderbird.  can anyone help?
[03:56] <romulo> fde, modprobe's now but not working correctly
[03:56] <kuahara> thats the story from beginning to end.  It was originally a NTFS formatted partition
[03:56] <Mrafrohead> encryption works fine, just not the other way.
[03:56] <romulo> fde, are you using fglrx too?
[03:56] <Karcamo[x]> look this link http://kataix.umag.cl/laboratorio/node/200 about ubuntu !! :)
[03:56] <Fezzler> I mean, why would Compiz work, but crash if I turn on Desktop Cube?
[03:57] <fde> romulo: no, but I have... so I'm familiar with the procedures...
[03:57] <kuahara> I tried to mount this partition on media/sda5, it says it can't mount it
[03:57] <FFEMTcJ> starcannon: on the other system im gettin an error The folder contents could not be displayed.. but thats still farther than i get here.. it atleast sees the workgroup over there
[03:57] <Karcamo[x]> romulo: Fezzler Mrafrohead kuahara jc sexcopter http://kataix.umag.cl/laboratorio/node/200 look it
[03:57] <mshade> So no one else having issues with Google?
[03:57] <mshade> a bunch of buddie and I are -- different ISPs, locations, etc
[03:57] <mshade> common thread is ubuntu.  gutsy and hardy
[03:57] <FFEMTcJ> uggh.. very frustrating.. why cant stuff just work out of the box
[03:57] <fde> Fezzler: your GPU isn't powerful enough more than likely.
[03:57] <Mrafrohead> Fezzler,  there is a problem with compix and some video cards.  openGL can fail.
[03:57] <Mrafrohead> what kinda card?
[03:58] <^u^> mshade: not here
[03:58] <fde> FFEMTcJ: Because you didn't report applicable bugs on the pre-releases  ;)
[03:58] <kuahara> karc, that site is in a language I can not read
[03:58] <Fezzler> fde: Worked under Fiesty and Gutsy?
[03:58] <bcardarella> Is anybody else have issues connecting to www.google.com ?
[03:58] <fivehorizons> Is there a different channel to get help with technical questions?
[03:58] <drizzle> hi all
[03:58] <romulo> fde, fgl_glxgears cant run anymore, unless in -fbo mode, wich sucks
[03:58] <Fezzler> Mrafrohead: Worked before
[03:58] <bcardarella> As stupid as it sounds, I can't connect to it... no issues with any other site. Even gmail works
[03:58] <Karcamo[x]> kuahara: is spanish, but look the picture
[03:58] <talntid> fivehorizons, works fine for me
[03:58] <jc> fivehorizons: nope this is the best place
[03:58] <FFEMTcJ> fde: im a complete noob to linux.. ive spent many hours on this and i still dont know if its a bug with ubuntu or a bug with me..
[03:58] <drizzle> does anyone here run boinc?
[03:58] <zcat[1]> FFEMTcJ: file sharing here did work out of the box. But I'm not sharing anything with an uncooperative, poorly documented OS.
[03:58] <fde> romulo: startx -- -ignoreAPI allow it to work?
[03:59] <mshade> status
[03:59] <Mrafrohead> bcardarella,  try pinging it and see what response you get.
[03:59] <romulo> fde, need to check
[03:59] <fde> romulo: stop X first though
[03:59] <bcardarella> Mrafrohead: no problems pinging it
[03:59] <romulo> fde, funny, my 3d applications are working fine
[03:59] <Mrafrohead> I really need some help with my encryption.  can anyone help or at least point me to a place I can get help?  I am seeing no reason at all for what's happening.
[03:59] <bcardarella> Firefox is just spinning its wheels :p
[03:59] <romulo> fde, anyway, thanks for help if it bugs again i will bug you again if you dont mind ;)
[04:00] <kuahara> Simpler Question:   Is there a way to restore a partition back to the way it was -yesterday-???
[04:00] <FFEMTcJ> zcat[1]: when i first installed 7.10 it did work out of the box.. but i dont have that system anymore, and this one with 8.04 it isnt working.. the only things that have changed are this system and the version of ubuntu
[04:00] <zcat[1]> speaking of 'out of the box' my wife started printing stuff on my nice printer and I hadn't even set that up for her. Bloody avahi!
[04:00] <fde> romulo: no problem, but ask the whole channel, as there might be a bug somewhere I'm not aware of  ;)
[04:00] <romulo> fde, of course, thanks anyway =]
[04:00] <fivehorizons> I seriously need some help troubleshooting a VNC/SSH problem
[04:01] <fde> zcat[1]: haha... that's usability for you, it does have its pitfalls  ;)
[04:01] <FFEMTcJ> zcat[1]: nice
[04:01] <kuahara> god, who do I have to order a pizza for to get some help with this
[04:01] <jc> fivehorizons: whats the issue?
[04:01] <Fezzler> Well, Hardy has issues.
[04:01] <fde> fivehorizons: care to tell us any errors etc?
[04:01] <zcat[1]> was rather surprised. All I did was plug the printer in, the next thing I know it's accessable from all our computers. I didn't even have to set it up on this one!
[04:01]  * fde likes pizza
[04:01] <fivehorizons> I get the error message "Connection Failed - Error reading protocol" when trying to connect to my VNC server using Ultra VNC tunneled through Putty. If I try VNC using the server IP directly, it works.
[04:02] <kuahara> someone recommended parted magic under the pretense that it can 'restore' partitions back to the way they were.  So far as I can tell, this is not true
[04:02] <zcat[1]> I think I might have turned avahi on at some point to share music ... but it sure surprised me
[04:02] <fivehorizons> I used the guide here: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6  to set it up
[04:02] <fde> zcat[1]: Ubuntu enables it by default.
[04:02] <zcat[1]> ahhh
[04:03] <thechris> Anyone know how to get past the following "/dev/ram does not exist"?
[04:03] <zcat[1]> that might actually be a bad idea :(
[04:03] <komputes> fivehorizons: did you configure vnc server to accept local connections? i'm not too sure how to do this in ubuntu
[04:03] <Fezzler> !compiz
[04:03] <jc> fivehorizons: and your ssh tunnel is working correctly? can you ssh to the machine you want to control and see a working terminal?
[04:03] <gleyve> good evening...anybody knows what can I do to start my notebook's webcam working on ubuntu?
[04:03] <starcannon__> jc my fstab is here http://pastebin.com/dbcf3522
[04:03] <jc> fivehorizons: are you trying to control windows from linux or linux from windows?
[04:03] <kuahara> I'll paypal someone $10 right now if someone can explain to me how to fix this in a PM or something
[04:04] <fde> zcat[1]: indeed... it'll only work within the LAN though
[04:04] <gleyve> Question: I have a problem..anybody knows what can I do to start my notebook's webcam working on ubuntu?
[04:04] <kuahara> it probably won't buy you a gallon of gas by tomorrow morning, but oh well
[04:04] <thechris> kuahara: what did you break?
[04:04] <LyleM> TheCellist42,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:04] <Mrafrohead> kuahara if you google recover lost file, you'll get what you're looking for.  found it yesterday.
[04:05] <starcannon__> will have the ls stuff for you next
[04:05] <TheCellist42> LyleM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:05] <fxjr> hey all
[04:05] <gleyve> Question: What can I do to start my notebook's webcam on ubuntu?
[04:05] <zcat[1]> Mrafrohead: he didn't lose a file, he lost a whole 130G partition
[04:05] <fde> gleyve: does 'lsmod | grep gspca' return anything? (fingers crossed it does, makes this much easier)
[04:05] <kuahara> thechris, I deleted a partition and it somehow changed in size.  From 127GB to 8MB.
[04:05] <kuahara> thechris, I also loaded ubuntu livecd and force mounted the 2nd 127GB partition
[04:05] <komputes> kuahara: did you format over it, lose a file? if so i can only recommend midnight commander
[04:05] <fxjr> are you getting problems with Mono where the process doesn't die after have finished?
[04:05] <kuahara> and it is showing up with 124GB of free space even tho I had 80GB of data I needed
[04:05] <jc> starcannon_: it looks like you only have a single optical drive is that correct?
[04:05] <bpat1182> What SVN client is used in ubuntu?  apt-get install svn doesn't work :(
[04:05] <gleyve> fde: Thanks for help me...I'll try taht..just a moment
[04:05] <thechris> kuahara: if you've not done any writes you can get the data back
[04:06] <kuahara> thechris, so I'm told.  But no one can say how.  Someone recommended parted magic and said it could do the job.  But it appears it can not
[04:06] <komputes> kuahara: perhaps not going to be able to recover everthing, but you can salvage what is stillon the drive
[04:06] <thechris> kuahara: you might want to make an exact image of the better part of the drive though.
[04:06] <fde> gleyve: Applications > Accessories > Terminal is where you'll type it, btw  :)
[04:06] <gleyve> fde: no..Nothing
[04:06] <Mrafrohead> kuahara, you can use ranish partition manager to fix that.
[04:06] <o0Chris0o> what folder does ubuntu store the apps? trying to change default app
[04:06] <UnityDivide> bpat1182, try: apt-get install subversion
[04:06] <fde> gleyve: ahh... does 'lsusb' tell us anything about it?
[04:06] <Mrafrohead> that's not too hard, but you need to understand hard drive geometry or you'll fuck it all up.
[04:06] <thechris> kuahara: you just have to put the partition table back to the correct size, or possibly something larger
[04:06] <starcannon__> jc heres the ls -la /media http://pastebin.com/d6ad56295
[04:06] <jc> freeman_: ok what command are you using to make the connection?
[04:06] <UnityDivide> bpat1182, then you should be able to use svn commands
[04:07] <o0Chris0o> !languate | Mrafrohead
[04:07] <o0Chris0o> !language | Mrafrohead
[04:07] <gleyve> fde: now it tells me some lines...My webcam is embebed..not usb ok?
[04:07] <bpat1182> UnityDivide, yeah.... just figured it out.  Thanks though :)
[04:07] <UnityDivide> np
[04:07] <Mrafrohead> OR, you can pull the disk and put it in another computer as a slave, use EasyRecovery Pro to scan the entire disk, it will find all files.
[04:07] <kuahara> thechris, do I just select the ntfs partition and resize?
[04:07] <Mrafrohead> they're not deleted.
[04:07] <Mrafrohead> they're still there.
[04:07] <fde> !webcams | gleyve I'll basically repeat these, so please read
[04:07] <Mrafrohead> chris - sorry about that.
[04:07] <kuahara> thechris, can I PM you
[04:08] <fde> gleyve: generally, that still will use a USB interface though..
[04:08] <o0Chris0o> what folder does ubuntu store the apps? trying to change default app
[04:08] <thechris> kuahara: i think so
[04:08] <jc> starcannon__: what is the vcd after the Ubuntu disk? I don't think I have that
[04:08] <gleyve> ubottu: thanks..i'll try that too
[04:08] <gleyve> fde: ok..I understand
[04:08] <unperson> Hi, I've been trying to watch some videos on thedailyshow.com, but I can never seem to get anything to play but the commercials.  Has anyone tried the site recently (say, the last few days) and had this issue?
[04:08] <zcat[1]> kuahara: you don't want to resize! You want something like fdisk that will put the partition table back without touching the filesystem at all
[04:08] <starcannon> jc oh thats something i put in there when making a bootable usb drive ignore it
[04:08] <jc> fivehorizons: yes I'm seing the messages, but privately and I can't reply privately for some reason
[04:08] <unperson> I'm wondering if the problem is my ISP, the OS, the site, or something specific to my system.
[04:09] <kuahara> zcat, how <-----------HUGE PROBLEM
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> zcat[1],  that's what I was saying.  ranish partition manager
[04:09] <kuahara> if I use fdisk in dos it says there are unrecoverable problems
[04:09] <jc> starcannon: ok thats good
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> it will allow the config to be returned.
[04:09] <kuahara> MS DOS, yes
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> kuahara,  RANISH PARTITION MANAGER!
[04:09] <zcat[1]> Mrafrohead: ok, you want to help him? there's paypal money in it.. :)
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> not dos
[04:09] <fde> unperson: I'm getting what looks like the show on the main page list?
[04:09] <kuahara> mrafrohead, if I got download that are you going to be my support for all my how-to questions?
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> no, i've got problems of my own right now.
[04:09] <kuahara> if not, there is no point in me downloading it
[04:09] <Mrafrohead> no, it has a nice manual and a very descript web page.
[04:10] <gleyve> fde: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b4:00ff Cypress Semiconductor Corp.
[04:10] <kuahara> is it a livecd app
[04:10] <zcat[1]> kuahara: fdisk off a linux live cd .. dos's fdisk is useless
[04:10] <gleyve> fde: "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b4:00ff Cypress Semiconductor Corp. " What does i means? Is this my webcam?
[04:10] <Mrafrohead> that's funny, you want help, but you won't help yourself.
[04:10] <Mrafrohead> bleh, I charge 200 bucks an hour.  you paypal me that and I'll start for ONE HOUR.
[04:10] <unperson> fde, Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're saying.  You're able to watch videos that appear on thedailyshow.com front page?
[04:10] <khakane> ubuntu 8.04 64bit, one of my sata drives disappeared, and now i get the
[04:10] <zcat[1]> kuahara: you got an ubuntu boot/install cd?
[04:10] <khakane> "port is slow to respond, please be patient" "SRST failed" messages
[04:10] <kuahara> mrafrohead I can help myself, but I've had 4 different apps recommended to me and they all run into the same problem
[04:10] <kuahara> zcat, yes
[04:11] <kuahara> I have the ubunto 8.04 live cd
[04:11] <Mrafrohead> kuahara,  my app will work.
[04:11] <kuahara> ubuntu*
[04:11] <Mrafrohead> WILL work.
[04:11] <tiksan> hello
[04:11] <Mrafrohead> but you have to try it.
[04:11] <Mrafrohead> newho - back later.
[04:11] <zcat[1]> kuahara: cool.. boot up off it, I think it will have the tools we need
[04:11] <o0Chris0o> what folder does ubuntu store the apps? trying to change default app
[04:11] <jc> starcannon: thanks, I've changed my fstab to look like yours, its a little better but It's still not totaly right
[04:11] <zhenggang> nice to meet you
[04:11] <kuahara> its going to take a while to boot from it, but 1 sec
[04:11] <tiksan> I just install ubuntu 8.
[04:11] <bbyever> I have not been able to do a google search since yesterday. when i connect from any other computer it works fine, but from this one it doesnt. any ideas?
[04:12] <jc> fivehorizons: how are you trying to connect to your linux box?
[04:12] <starcannon> jc are your drives automounting into the correct location now? my uuid's would be different I should think...
[04:12] <plik> bbyever: someone else had that prob earlier too
[04:12] <invisibleInk> unperson: videos work fine with the latest Opera beta
[04:12] <Lincooled> hi all :)
[04:12] <fde> unperson: yes
[04:12] <khakane> ;\
[04:12] <bbyever> ﻿plik: did s/he fix it?
[04:12] <Ravenkin> Does anyone know if Evolution has been fixed to edit google calendar yet?
[04:12] <unperson> fde, I see.  I assume you're using hardy.  What browser?
[04:13] <fde> gleyve: I don't think that's your webcam... they don't seem to offer webcams on their site? http://www.cypress.com/
[04:13] <unperson> invisibleInk, Ok.  And you're using flashplayer 9?
[04:13] <fde> unperson: firefox...
[04:13] <jc> starcannon: I didn't chagne the UUID's as your right mine would be different, I was more interested in seeing what was pointing to /media/cdrom0 and cdrom1
[04:13] <fivehorizons> jc: I can connect via SSH. I can also connect using Ultra VNC from windows if I type in the server IP, but if I try to tunnel it through SSH I get the error message
[04:13] <fde> unperson: 3b5
[04:13] <invisibleInk> unperson: yes
[04:13] <starcannon> jc nod gotcha
[04:14] <Karcamo[x]> hi !
[04:14] <o0Chris0o> what folder does ubuntu store the apps? trying to change default app
[04:14] <unperson> fde, invisibleInk: Ok, thanks.  This is bizarre.  I only get the commercials.  When it goes to play the actual show clips it just says "loading" forever, then eventually gives up.
[04:14] <Lincooled> i would like to execute xpath request, which application can do it on ubuntu ?
[04:14] <Karcamo[x]> i have a cd with repositories for gutsy, i can add this cd in hardy ?
[04:14] <fde> unperson: I don't even see commercials... heh
[04:14] <jc> fivehorizons: ok, hold on a sec let me see how I do it from my work compuer, to send you that syntax ...
[04:14] <unperson> fde, invisibleInk: And I just replicated it too.
[04:15] <fde> unperson: I have noscripts and adblock around though (I temp. allowed that site only)
[04:15] <kuahara> still booting into ubuntu off the live cd
[04:15] <Karcamo[x]> kuahara: you know ?
[04:15] <Karcamo[x]> i have a cd with repositories for gutsy, i can add this cd in hardy ?
[04:16] <thechris> kuahara: do you have enough space to backup the raw data on the disk?
[04:16] <`KoRn> what is the command for delete in the terminal?
[04:16] <ntomata> rm
[04:16] <Tu13es> should I try out TrueCrypt?
[04:16] <sexcopter> hi, i'm trying to complete step 4 on this link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html but I don't know how to set boot flags using fdisk, and the man page doesn't seem clear to me
[04:16] <fde> Karcamo[x]: I wouldn't recommend it, but others have done it without issue...
[04:16] <`KoRn> ntomata: thanks
[04:16] <buzzsaw_> ok this might sound kind of dumb but is there a way to undelete a file?  :-)
[04:16] <buzzsaw_> i made a mistake
[04:17] <unperson> fde, Hmm....  Well, maybe it's something to do with my ISP.  I'll have to try it from my office, I guess.
[04:17] <jc> fivehorizons: after making the tunnel I just use localhost as the IP to connect to is that what you are using/
[04:17] <texel> Hey guys, how on earth do I get the Ubuntu installer for 8.10 to do an encrypted LVM setup?
[04:17] <starcannon> jc just in case you didn't have the command already, you can find your uuids by running  sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdc3     note that hdc3 would be replaced by your devices /dev location
[04:17] <sexcopter> wait, maybe i could just use gparted??
[04:17] <o0Chris0o> what folder does ubuntu store the apps? trying to change default app
[04:17] <khakane> hrm i wonder if this is a bad HD
[04:17] <texel> s/8.10/8.04/
[04:17] <thechris> texel: i think you can drop to a shell, if that helps
[04:17] <fivehorizons> Yeah, that is what I'm trying to do: localhost:0
[04:18] <vick1> hello, sorry for the trouble but does anyone know how i can turn off this "automatic shut off safety" feature for when my computer gets up to 90degrees celsius?
[04:18] <`KoRn> how about deleting a folder?
[04:18] <jc> fivehorizons: try using http://remotectrlctr.sourceforge.net/ on the windows box, I found this really helped
[04:18] <texel> thechris: neh? How does that get me to use Ubuntu's encrypted LVM setup?
[04:18] <starcannon> o0Chris0o /usr/bin probably what your hunting for
[04:18] <ntomata> rmdir
[04:18] <kuahara> thechris, there is 80GB of data I am trying to recover.  The hdd has plenty of space.  cd's do not
[04:18] <o0Chris0o> starcannon: ty
[04:18] <zcat[1]> vick1: probably in the bios settings somewhere
[04:18] <elmer> where do you change the apt-get sources? Like enable "universe" and stuff?
[04:18] <ntomata> or : rm -Rf
[04:18] <Karcamo[x]> fde: i have to install soo much package in hardy, but i have this package in cd for gutsy
[04:18] <elmer> nvm
[04:18] <elmer> found it
[04:19] <kuahara> vick1, you need to disable thermtrip in your processor, which is done in the bios
[04:19] <vick1> okay ill search for that
[04:19] <vick1> and try itout, thanks zcat and kuahara
[04:19] <kuahara> note you can fry the cpu
[04:19] <texel> The install instructions look like they talk about the debian installer instead of casper.
[04:19] <kuahara> if you do that =o
[04:19] <vick1> lol
[04:19] <texel> I can't actually get the thing to start the console installer.
[04:19] <vick1> my fan broke a year ago
[04:19] <fivehorizons> jc: cool, thanks for the link....ill check it out
[04:19] <kuahara> I would find out why its heating up
[04:19] <vick1> and on xp, it never automatically shut off
[04:19] <zcat[1]> kuahara: booted up yet?
[04:19] <thechris> texel: i'm just saying, if you know the commands to do it, you probably can somehow.
[04:19] <kuahara> zcat yes, just as you asked
[04:20] <jc> fivehorizons: how did you set up your tunnel are you sure you have the tunnel set up correctly?
[04:20] <kuahara> vick1, that does not mean you don't have a heating issue
[04:20] <fde> texel: Ubuntu doesn't use casper. Ubiquity has hooks to debian-installer, and the alternative cd uses debian-installer in a modified form.
[04:20] <zcat[1]> ok, open a terminal and type 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda'
[04:20] <starcannon> jc cool tool thanks as well
[04:20] <vick1> yeah i do and i think my hd is permanently damaged
[04:20] <texel> fde: so do I need to use the alternative CD to install with to do encrypted LVM? O.o
[04:20] <k20a> my display defaults to highest settings everytime i restart..even if i take those settings out of xorg, what should i do?
[04:20] <kuahara> zcat how do I get to a terminal window...forgot the command
[04:21] <kuahara> alt + f2 and gnome -terminal?
[04:21] <vick1> buttt this laptop is 4 years old? i think i'm just going to get a new one soon
[04:21] <thechris> kuahara: well you might use dd or another imaging software to make a backup.  from there you can try to get the data back.  I'm not sure on how NTFS works.  either way you don't want to accidently corrupt things.
[04:21] <fde> texel: I have no idea... I didn't see it in Ubiquity though, else I'd have done it  ;)
[04:21] <fivehorizons> jc: I set up the tunnel using Putty. I followed the directions on this website: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/6
[04:21] <zcat[1]> applications > accessories > terminal
[04:21] <starcannon> k20a what vid card, are your proprietary drivers loading?
[04:21] <kitsuneofdoom> My Rhythymbox stopped working with the upgrade to 8.04, complaining it didn't have the proper codec for ogg, however, it pointed to the ugly plugins, and after I installed them, it still didn't work
[04:21] <kuahara> that applications menu didn't work the first time I did this
[04:21] <kuahara> its working atm tho
[04:21] <texel> fde: Do we even have any devs in the channel who /would/ know?
[04:21] <Prez00> hello
[04:21] <kuahara> zcat do I need to be in root to do this
[04:21] <gleyve> fde: is easycam2 relible?
[04:22] <Bryan> hey, I can only go to secure sites on firefox-3.0 if I run it in root. Any fixes? (Other than running in root ;/)
[04:22] <zcat[1]> 'sudo' will work without a password in the live cd
[04:22] <fde> gleyve: my cam is supported with gspca so I didn't need to use it.
[04:22] <Prez00> how do i check if my swap partition is working? i have 0 used and i don't see it in mount
[04:22] <Fidoda> hi, I have a problem with my ATI AGP card drivers. can someone help me please? thx!
[04:22] <k20a> starcannon nvidia
[04:22] <kuahara> it said -1 is an invali option
[04:22] <evand> texel: fde: encrypted LVM will not work in ubiquity.  It's hopefully coming in 8.10.
[04:22] <starcannon> k20a are the drivers installed and enabled?
[04:22] <zcat[1]> 'ell' not 'one'
[04:22] <`KoRn> Directory not empty??
[04:22] <pawan> how to install 5200 drivers through envying
[04:23] <gleyve> fde: I need to add a new repository..and Ubuntu tells me that it is not a relible repository..what do u think?
[04:23] <kuahara> done
[04:23] <fde> evand: He seems to think it'll work via the alternative disc... can you confirm or deny that for hardy?
[04:23] <zcat[1]> get something like /dev/sda    1 6000   bignumber?
[04:23] <evand> fde: it will work on the alternate CD.
[04:23] <fde> gleyve: go ahead and hit y
[04:23] <starcannon> k20a I have an Nvidia guide in pastebin, but it only works if you don't skip steps you can see it here http://pastebin.com/f4d1facb2
[04:23] <texel> evand: Mm. Think we need to make that obvious from the install docs.
[04:23] <bbyever> ﻿Prez00: it probably is working. it is only used if you run out of ram
[04:23] <kuahara> says its 250gb 250059350016 bytes followed by other info
[04:24] <atonek> join #ubuntu-se
[04:24] <GroundZer0> where would i find ~/.fluxbox/styles.
[04:24] <Prez00> bbyever: should it show up when I run mount?
[04:24] <fde> texel: Looks like you need the Alternate disc for encrypted LVM then  :)
[04:24] <zcat[1]> kuahara: cool.. called /dev/sda1 and starts at 1 ?
[04:24] <bbyever> ﻿Prez00: i dont think so
[04:24] <bbyever> !swap | ﻿Prez00:
[04:24] <fde> evand: thanks a lot  :)
[04:24] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: it's /home/<username>/.fluxbox/styles
[04:24] <kuahara> . /dev/sda1 start 2
[04:24] <jc> fivehorizons: on my compuer at work I have putty set up this way: L5900 phoenix.cybergalvez.com:5900  cybergalvez is the computer I want to connect to.  Is that similar to what you have?
[04:24] <texel> fde: yeah.
[04:24] <texel> Too bad that download will take me hours.
[04:25] <kuahara> . /dev/sda5 is also start 2
[04:25] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy, hey hehe bro theres only Desktop there.
[04:25] <zcat[1]> kuahara: ok.. there's nothing other than /dev/sda1? and what's the end number?
[04:25] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: are you using ls or the file manager?
[04:25] <texel> Really seems suboptimal. =o/
[04:25] <fde> texel: let it go via (g)wget while you're asleep? also, it'll be on most mirrors...
[04:25] <kuahara> there is also /dev/sda5
[04:25] <starcannon> afk time to pollute myself, i haven't coughed in 3 hours, nico levels must be low
[04:25] <Prez00> bbyever: thanks, I know what swap does, I just don't remember if it should show up in mount, because I had a filesystem problem a while back, after suspend./resume issue, and just want to make sure swap partition is working
[04:25] <fivehorizons> jc: mine is set as L5900 localhost:5900
[04:25] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy,  thunar
[04:25] <jamiejackson> does a stock install of ubuntu have python? (wondering if that's a safe, universal language to use for something i need to tackle)
[04:25] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: it's a hidden folder
[04:25] <kuahara> the end number on both of these is the same 16708
[04:25] <texel> fde: max download I get here is 90kbps.
[04:26] <texel> And I was hoping to get this install finished tonight.
[04:26] <fde> texel: If you're in the US, osu's mirror is around 2mb/s here
[04:26] <jc> fivehorizons: try changing to to the IP of the machine you actually want to connect to, I had similar problems when I used localhost
[04:26] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy, how do i view it
[04:26] <texel> fde: nice. I may give that a try.
[04:26] <Fidoda> Hi, I have a problem with my ATI AGP restricted drivers. It is not the installation the problem but rather after. When I reboot after the installation I got a black screen after the Ubuntu logo displayed
[04:26] <texel> fde: though my downstream connection is... sad.
[04:26] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: you would need to enable viewing hidden files, but I forgot how to do it in Thunar
[04:27] <fde> texel: gotta be faster than 90kb/s though... heh... the ubuntu servers are slow today for most everyone.
[04:27] <k20a> star cannon my nvidia installs by default
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[04:27] <Ashfire908> Is there a way to specify a password for ssh to login to with? (I am aware this can be insanely insecure, but I'm connecting to a public access ssh server. The password is public.)
[04:27] <bbyever> ﻿Prez00: check the troubleshooting part of the link ubottu gave you. it shows you how to check for swap.
[04:27] <k20a> starcannon my nvidia driver installs by default and recognizes just fine..its my display that i am having problems with
[04:27] <GroundZer0> starcannon, found it -- View, Show hidden files. Thx
[04:27] <unperson> Is there any way to get flash to give you some diagnostic information?
[04:27] <kuahara> zcat, still here?
[04:27] <texel> fde: my downlink maxes at around 90kbps -- doesn't matter what the upstream server has available in my case.
[04:27] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy, View, Show hiden files --THx
[04:28] <Prez00> where can I paste my /etc/fstab, the strange thing is my partitions show up as /media/sda1, /media/sda5, etc.. as well as /home, /var, etc..
[04:28] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: just remember that any file or directory with a  name starting with a . is hidden
[04:28] <kuahara> how spytorex didn't just get banned is beyond me
[04:28] <Starnestommy> Prez00: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:28] <bbyever> !paste | ﻿Prez00
[04:28] <zcat[1]> kuahara: thinking ... can you give ne the numbers (start, end, ID) for /dev/sda1
[04:28] <Starnestommy> kuahara: he quit
[04:28] <ronin-baka> linux tool alowing one wi-fi card to connect to multiple networks.. replacemtn for http://research.microsoft.com/netres/projects/virtualwifi/
[04:28] <kuahara> yea..start is 2, end is 16708, ID is f
[04:28] <ronin-baka> does it exist?
[04:28] <fde> ronin-baka: NetworkManager
[04:29] <kuahara> this is also true of /dev/sda5, except the id is 7
[04:29] <kuahara> on /dev/sda1 it says system is W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[04:29] <kuahara> on /dev/sda5 it says system is HPFS/NTFS
[04:29] <Prez00> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10665/
[04:30] <Prez00> can someone check out my /etc/fstab
[04:30] <Prez00> the mount stuff seems strange
[04:30] <fde> ronin-baka: ahh... virtual devices... it is possible, but I'm not the person to ask about it... no tools to make it easier though.
[04:30] <groken> does anyone work with ANTLR by chance?
[04:30] <jc> fivehorizons: I've got to help my kid get her music on her new zen BRB
[04:30] <zcat[1]> kuahara: ok, total cylinders is about twice that?
[04:31] <fivehorizons> jc: ok np, I just tried changing to the server ip instead of localhost but no luck
[04:31] <kuahara> 30401 cyl
[04:31] <ronin-baka> you went and got me all excited
[04:31] <bbyever> ﻿Prez00: run sudo fdisk -l and paste the result
[04:31] <fde> Prez00: you're mounting some devices twice...
[04:32] <fde> Prez00: In fact, you're mounting them all twice....
[04:32] <ronin-baka> but that is a better solution if i choose to buy multiple cards if i can't find someone to help with virtulization
[04:32] <invisibleInk> unperson: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[04:32] <Fidoda> Hi, I have a problem with my ATI AGP restricted drivers. It is not the installation the problem but rather after. When I reboot after the installation I got a black screen after the Ubuntu logo displayed
[04:32] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy, i opened xfdesktop or something in fluxbox how do i quit it now
[04:32] <fde> Prez00: please comment everything below usbfs and reboot (ie, stick a # in front)
[04:32] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: I'm not sure
[04:32] <zcat[1]> kuahara: ok, partition you removed was ext3?
[04:33] <Prez00> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10666/
[04:33] <Prez00> bbyever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10666/
[04:33] <ronin-baka> it seems my plan to steal bandwidth from the 16 free hotspots in my area needs additional planning
[04:33] <kuahara> its hard to tell.  In windows setup the one I deleted was drive C.
[04:33] <kuahara> which I'm almost positive is sda1
[04:33] <che> how to do a dual booting
[04:33] <Fidoda> Hi, I have a problem with my ATI AGP restricted drivers. It is not the installation the problem but rather after. When I reboot after the installation I got a black screen after the Ubuntu logo displayed
[04:33] <kuahara> sda5 is where the other size is that I recognized
[04:33] <twistage> Anyone have problems with Wireshark not detecting any interfaces in Hardy?
[04:34] <fde> Prez00: Please do what I said... you can see it's mounting a lot of things twice there too...
[04:34] <zcat[1]> kuahara: no such luck.. you can addign any drive letter to any partition in windows
[04:34] <Starnestommy> twistage: you might need to run it as gksudo wireshark
[04:34] <Prez00> fde: alright, will do, brb
[04:34] <kuahara> I also did a MS-DOS format on that first partition and it changed the format to fat16
[04:34] <chris062689> :D
[04:34] <kuahara> zcat, but I recognized the parts based on their size
[04:34] <twistage> Starnestommy: Alright, thanks. I'll give it a shot
[04:34] <ronin-baka> also what do i need to backup for a software raid 5 array incase of some sort of software malfunction
[04:34] <Ashfire908> Is there a way to specify a password for ssh to login to with? (I am aware this can be insanely insecure, but I'm connecting to a public access ssh server. The password is public.)
[04:35] <kuahara> the part where windows was instaled was much smaller than the NTFS part where I stored files
[04:35] <fde> Ashfire908: no
[04:35] <kuahara> installed*
[04:35] <gleyve> fde: Easycam2 gives me this message : "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection"
[04:35] <sparr_> how can i disable the "doesnt provide secure updates" extension check in firefox 3?
[04:35] <kuahara> so I deleted the smaller partition
[04:35] <kuahara> now the other one was untouched
[04:35] <fde> gleyve: yeah, you need the module first...
[04:35] <zcat[1]> kuahara: both were windows filesystems?
[04:35] <twistage> Starnestommy: Works perfect. Whats the difference between gksudo and sudo, they seem to both have the same effect?
[04:35] <kuahara> all I did with this one was force mount it in ubuntu
[04:35] <Ashfire908> fde, there's no way to?
[04:35] <kuahara> zcat, yes
[04:35] <pawan> how to install 5200 drivers through envying
[04:35] <Starnestommy> twistage: gksudo uses your settings but runs as root and is graphical.  sudo is CLI and uses root's settings
[04:36] <fde> gleyve: please pastebin your 'lsusb' output with the cam plugged in.
[04:36] <Starnestommy> and runs as root
[04:36] <fde> !paste | gleyve
[04:36] <twistage> Ah
[04:36] <starcannon> k20a you could try putting "nvidia" without the quotes in your /etc/modules file, thats the only way I can get settings to be remembered, also use the nvidia tool sudo nvidia-settings to set your resolutions
[04:36] <gleyve> fde: ok
[04:36] <kuahara> funny, I gave vick1 advice earlier simply assuming she had an intel processor
[04:37] <kuahara> doesn't matter, she plans to destroy it anyway
[04:37] <kuahara> disabling thermtrip to keep the comp from shutting off is the dumbest thing I've ever heard someone want to do
[04:37] <gleyve> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10667/
[04:37] <zcat[1]> kuahara: hmmm.. the layout isn't the sypical windows arrangement, so I'm reluctant to guess the missing partiton .. you want to take a gamble? (it will be nondestructive, just might take a few guesses before we find it)
[04:37] <starcannon> pawan i don't know how to use envyng but I have a manual install guide up in pastebin if you want it
[04:37] <zcat[1]> *typical
[04:37] <pawan> give
[04:38] <kuahara> zcat, a gamble is fine with me
[04:38] <lopin> I'm having some problems getting vmware installed...
[04:38] <kuahara> 50/50 is better than 0
[04:38] <zcat[1]> ok, 'mkdir lost' so we have somewhere to mount it..
[04:38] <usser> lopin, on hardy?
[04:38] <kuahara> done
[04:38] <starcannon> pawan http://pastebin.com/f4d1facb2
[04:38] <lopin> usser: Bingo
[04:38] <zcat[1]> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[04:38] <kuahara> done
[04:39] <lopin> usser: Any solution?  I tried the one on the forums, changing the one line, but it didn't work...
[04:39] <fde> gleyve: Yeah, I don't think that is supported I'm afraid, Google isn't being very enlightening at least, and I don't recognize the cam.
[04:39] <usser> lopin, whats in the forums? did u try any-to-any-update
[04:40] <usser> lopin, my experience with vmware was sad
[04:40] <Prez00> fde: ok, looks good
[04:40] <lopin> any-to-any-update doesn't work either...
[04:40] <lopin> What cam?
[04:40] <usser> lopin, on hardy it would lock up the whole system when virtual machine is run
[04:40] <fde> Prez00: idk why those were added... very ugly, heh
[04:40] <lopin> That's not good...
[04:40] <zcat[1]> n for a new partiton (I think..) primary, 2, start at 16708, end at the end of the disk, change the type to ntfs, cant remember what number/letter that is
[04:40] <gleyve> fde: maybe it only works on windows then?
[04:40] <fde> Prez00: your fdisk -l /dev/sda looks right again?
[04:40] <Prez00> lopin: i can't get vmware workstation 5.6 to work in hardy...
[04:41] <lopin> Everyone's having problems...
[04:41] <lopin> How's virtualbox?
[04:41] <Prez00> fde: looks good, thanks..
[04:41] <kuahara> ok sec
[04:41] <usser> lopin, dont know what to say to you, virtualbox is good
[04:41] <fde> lopin: It's a support channel... that's kind of the point, heh
[04:41] <kuahara> I selected primary
[04:41] <kuahara> then entered partition number 2
[04:41] <kuahara> when it asked for first cylinder, I entered 16708
[04:41] <usser> lopin, do u have 64bit hardy?
[04:42] <lopin> Well, I came in here to get help with VMware, but apparently the whole thing is botched...
[04:42] <kuahara> it returned:  Sector 268397955 is already allocated
[04:42] <zcat[1]> sorry, 16709 :)
[04:42] <lopin> usser: Not with my atheros wireless card..  I just figured out how to get the thing to work properly in 32 bit...
[04:42] <kuahara> now it says  First Cylinder (16709 - 30401, default 16709)
[04:42] <vick1> does anyone know where in the bios setting i can find the option to turn off the cpu temperature reading
[04:42] <zcat[1]> kuahara: that looks better
[04:42] <vick1> i looked under every tab?
[04:42] <kuahara> vick1
[04:42] <kuahara> you are going to destroy your cpu
[04:43] <vick1> i know..but
[04:43] <vick1> it doesnt stay on for more than like 10 minutes sometimes
[04:43] <Wannabe> is the apt-get down for you guys to?
[04:43] <vick1> i cant get any work done
[04:43] <vick1> this is only temporary i'm getting a new ocmputer next week
[04:43] <lopin> vick1: That might be a hint that it needs a good clean out...
[04:43] <UberCanuck> Wannabe, you mean your mirror is down
[04:43] <kuahara> it will not turn on for even 1 sec if you just disable thermtrip and ignore it
[04:43] <Starnestommy> Wannabe: try changing the servers that you use for the repositories
[04:43] <zcat[1]> cpu's are cheap.. fireworks are fun.. go for it vick1!
[04:43] <kuahara> give me a min tho, working with zcat on something
[04:43] <vick1> alright thank you
[04:43] <fde> !repomirror | UberCanuck
[04:43] <UberCanuck> Wannabe, I always use dupes in my sources file
[04:43] <Wannabe> Starnestommy,  how do i pull that 1 off?
[04:43] <starcannon> lol zcat[1] hahaha
[04:43] <kuahara> what do I enter for last cylinder
[04:44] <UberCanuck> ubottu, i edit it manually thanks
[04:44] <kuahara> 30401?
[04:44] <lopin> vick1: I had to do that to my old one.  Get a screwdriver, vaccum, and a can of duster...
[04:44] <zcat[1]> kuahara: whatever it suggests I think
[04:44] <fde> Wannabe: uhh, see what ubottu said to UberCanuck
[04:44] <usser> vick1, fix the fans, do something but dont turn off temp reading
[04:44] <Starnestommy> Wannabe: look in System > Administration > Software Sources
[04:44] <Starnestommy> UberCanuck: ubottu is a bot
[04:44] <kuahara> ok
[04:44] <fde> UberCanuck: It's a bot, apologies
[04:44] <kuahara> entered 30401
[04:44] <kuahara> its waiting for next command
[04:44] <UberCanuck> Starnestommy, k, thanks
[04:44] <vick1> hmm
[04:44] <UberCanuck> fde, np, thanks
[04:44] <kuahara> vick1, you need to resolve that heating issue
[04:45] <kuahara> if your comp shut off its not because windows or linux told it to
[04:45] <gcarrillo> man, the 'bu is awesome!
[04:45] <zcat[1]> kuahara: t to change type, 2, and I think 7 was ntfs? press 'l' for a list of them
[04:45] <lopin> vick1: If it's shutting off, then the cpu can't handle the heat.  Nothing in the OS turns off the comp when it gets too hot.  It just makes the fan go faster...
[04:45] <gcarrillo> do the 'bu
[04:45] <vick1> yeah like it used to just shut off in a few hours
[04:45] <vick1> but linux shuts it off
[04:45] <kuahara> no it doesn't
[04:45] <vick1> like..the screen says
[04:45] <fde> UberCanuck: In here, you have to advise the easiest possible solution else you'll have headaches... I've told people commands and had them ask where to type it, for instance  :P
[04:45] <vick1> reached critical temperature 90 degrees celsius
[04:45] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> Hey guys, i have a really really anoying problem.  Since I installed hardy heron,  my computer has been really really slow.  It always feels like 5 different programs are trying to open at once so its really chopy and typing lags and i always have to force quit everything.  The funny thing is that when i had ubuntu on this same computer awile ago, it was fine, this is just a brand new instalation.  So how do i speed it back up?
[04:45] <kuahara> if it just "shuts off" thermtrip shut it down
[04:46] <UberCanuck> fde, true, good advice, thanks
[04:46] <fde> UberCanuck: This isn't the Linux of yesteryear!
[04:46] <kuahara> zcat sorry, reading that again
[04:46] <styles> Hey, so whats the proper order to do this? Ive now just reinstalled Ubuntu. I need to install my graphics drivers now right? Do I just chose the driver thats "restricted" that Ubuntu picks?
[04:46] <zcat[1]> Psyco_Chipmunkk: poss. more ram.. hardy's a bit heavier than earlier ubuntu's I think
[04:46] <UberCanuck> fde, :-) of course it is - strip the gui and what do you have?!
[04:46] <kuahara> 7 was correct
[04:46] <kuahara> changed it to ntfs
[04:46] <UberCanuck> fde, my servers don't have X installed
[04:46] <Wannabe> ty UberCanuck
[04:46] <fde> UberCanuck: A lot of confused users  ;)
[04:46] <usser> styles, yes just pick the restricted driver and reboot
[04:46] <lopin> vick1: That's not good...
[04:46] <kuahara> it is waiting for next command
[04:46] <zcat[1]> kuahara: so 'p' and see if it looks sensible ?
[04:47] <usser> styles, drivers if u have more than 1
[04:47] <kuahara> vick1, no CPU is designed to safely run at 90C
[04:47] <styles> usser: I will and it will "freak out" my computer though.
[04:47] <kuahara> mine is lapped and cooled with AS5 and a CNPS9700 and idles at 27C
[04:47] <vick1> hmm okay then
[04:47] <gcarrillo> whats the boiling point of a processor ;)
[04:47] <UberCanuck> fde, I think telling a user (a single) command to paste into a term is easier than the steps of a gui, imho
[04:47] <vick1> if i clean it out, and realize it's just my fan is broken
[04:47] <vick1> is it worth fixing a 3 year old hp laptop
[04:47] <kuahara> that means your CPU is running at 194F
[04:47] <kuahara> you can cook food on that
[04:47] <UberCanuck> vick1, depends on your budget - for me, no
[04:47] <demonspork> Hardy Heron, ff 3.0b5, firefox crashes every time I launchs it, if I run it from a terminal it just says "Segmentation Fault"
[04:48] <vick1> alright thanks guys
[04:48] <UberCanuck> demonspork, was this an upgrade or new install?
[04:48] <vick1> ill just try cleaning it first
[04:48] <lopin> vick1: Water boils at 100 celcius, so just think about that... It's probably some dust and junk in the fan and heat sink.  It's really easy to clean it out with a can of duster, a vacuum and a screwdriver.
[04:48] <fde> UberCanuck: It's more intimidating though, the easier you make the output, the more complicated the command and vise versa.
[04:48] <kuahara> my SLi rig was ranked in the top 1% of 3000 machines @ nvidia's club SLi
[04:48] <UberCanuck> fde, true, sometimes
[04:48] <vick1> okay thank you!
[04:48] <vick1> bye
[04:48] <starcannon> k20a did adding nvidia to /etc/modules fix you up?
[04:48] <kuahara> go to thermalright.com and look at a new HSF combo
[04:48] <kuahara> o well
[04:48] <kuahara> zcat, I hit p
[04:48] <lopin> kuahara: you could cook meat to be safe to eat...
[04:49] <gina> hi
[04:49] <gina> anyone using ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[04:49] <zcat[1]> kuahara: I guess as long as the original two are still there; press 'w' to write it and exit
[04:49] <kuahara> running at such high temps reduces the overall longevity of the cpu.  If she is at 90C and disables thermtrip, it will last a few months at best
[04:49] <jchico> hello, has anybody had problems with firefox lately, it continously hangs on me and when I check my system monitor the status says "undisruptable" and takes a huge chuck of my CPU
[04:49] <kuahara> at best..
[04:49] <kuahara> pressed w
[04:49] <kuahara> its doing stuff
[04:49] <Psyco_Chipmunkk> zcat[1]:  i have a gig of ram and my last ubuntu was gusty
[04:49] <demonspork> UberCanuck, this is a new install I have been using since a few days after the release
[04:49] <kuahara> ok, its back to command prompt
[04:49] <Pord> is there a way i can get gnome 2.22 onto my 7.10 install of ubuntu? I dont want to upgrade to hardy as i have lots of issues with it
[04:50] <fde> !anyone | gina
[04:50] <zcat[1]> kuahara: then sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda2 lost
[04:50] <UberCanuck> demonspork, install any plugins?
[04:50] <kuahara> fed it that command as well...its doing more stuf
[04:50] <kuahara> stuff
[04:50] <demonspork> UberCanuck, I know that rebooting will fix the problem, but I don't understand why it is. the same thing has happened before with other applications, almost system wide and a reboot fixes it
[04:50] <kuahara> done
[04:50] <demonspork> and no plugins
[04:50] <zcat[1]> ls lost
[04:50] <kuahara> holy shit
[04:50] <kuahara> my stuff!
[04:51] <zcat[1]> can't guarantee it'll be bootable.. might be a good time to do a backup :)
[04:51] <kuahara> how do I see if the data is corrupt?
[04:51] <UberCanuck> demonspork, ??  rebooting fixes it.... you mean firefox?  then a temp file, like a pid maybe?
[04:51] <kuahara> that partition is not meant to be a bootable one
[04:51] <fde> !ohmy | kuahara glad everything is fixed but
[04:51] <kuahara> oh, sorry
[04:51] <gina> well im having problems with my wifi on ubuntu.
[04:51] <drivetrax> ugh.. I just found out I have TCL under windows, but not under Linux
[04:51] <UberCanuck> demonspork, back in the day, rebooting meant 'you' lost and the computer won... and I don't like loosing
[04:52] <UberCanuck> drivetrax, install it
[04:52] <drivetrax> Why doesn't Ubuntu have TCL in it?
[04:52] <jchico> is it safe to delete your .mozilla directory? all it has is temp files correct?
[04:52] <zcat[1]> You can plug in a USB drive or scp over the network or whatever you need to do.. the data should be OK. It might even be bootable again now :)
[04:52] <demonspork> UberCanuck, that is why I am still asking about the problem
[04:52] <demonspork> :)
[04:52] <fde> gina: does 'lspci | grep -i wireless' return anything?
[04:52] <kuahara> that partition was never bootable
[04:52] <Starnestommy> jchico: it also has your preferences for firefox
[04:52] <kuahara> it was just for storage
[04:52] <kuahara> the other partition is where I had windows installed
[04:52] <gina> someone help me out here like 6 months ago.. he sent me a link where i fallow some steps and was able to use wireless on my mac for about 6 months... and is not working anymore..
[04:52] <djhash> kuahara: seems like the problem is worse than I thought.. sorry was away for a while.. but i'm glad to see you've recovered your files.. or atleast see them.. :-)
[04:52] <domcae3113> hola
[04:53] <zcat[1]> kuahara: well anyhow.. your stuff.. I rock! Hope it's all OK and not corrupted. It's mounted readonly so at least it can't get any worse
[04:53] <jchico> eh, barely have any so I'll give that a shot, I had to use Konqueror because this hanging issue is so annoying!
[04:53] <UberCanuck> drivetrax, sudo apt-get install tcl
[04:53] <fde> gina: does 'lspci | grep -i wireless' return anything?
[04:53] <domcae3113> quioen vive
[04:53] <kuahara> ok, now can I take the other partition and divide it in 2?  I want to put XP 32 bit back on there, but also I want to set aside 30ish gb for ubuntu
[04:53] <kuahara> so I can dual boot
[04:53] <kuahara> zcat, want me to paypal you?
[04:53] <domcae3113> please
[04:53] <drivetrax> UberCanuck,  thanks, but I wanted to ask why.. tcl should be in the system, imo
[04:53] <gina> fde i got this: 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5418 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[04:53] <jackal> does anyone here work for ubuntu
[04:54] <djhash> zcat[1]:i read through.. you definately rock.. i need to learn more.. kudos..
[04:54] <UberCanuck> demonspork, move your ~/.mozilla folder to a temp location and see if firefox still craps out
[04:54] <lopin> So, is there any way to mount a vmware image as a file system in ubuntu?
[04:54] <lopin> I need to get a few zip files off of one image if there's no way I can get vmware working in ubuntu
[04:54] <UberCanuck> drivetrax, install fits on 1 700 mb iso, if the library  is not needed, then why include it - its an apt-get away
[04:54] <zcat[1]> kuahara: I would find somewhere to copy your stuff to, then start fresh with that drive.. I wouldn't rely on it 'cos I might have still guessed the numbers wrong and it could turn real ugly the nest time you defrag or anything
[04:54] <siswago> ww
[04:55] <demonspork> UberCanuck, already tried that, it is not a ff specific problem, it is systemwide
[04:55] <kuahara> how can I back all that stuff up?
[04:55] <drivetrax> is only available from another source
[04:55] <drivetrax> E: Package tcl has no installation candidate
[04:55] <kuahara> in the condition my drive is in?
[04:55] <lopin> demonspork: Mine did that when My HD was failing
[04:55] <UberCanuck> lopin, sudo apt-get install zip unzip
[04:55] <drivetrax> it isn't there
[04:55] <Prez00> lopin: u and me both, my WS 5.6 is hosed in 8.04, used to work perfectly in gutsy
[04:55] <eboyjr> I want my deskbar applt to have a text box right on the panel.. How can I set that up?
[04:55] <drivetrax> I go synaptic?
[04:55] <Starnestommy> drivetrax: try sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[04:55] <UberCanuck> demonspork, ah - bigger issue.  search the bugs yet?
[04:55] <eboyjr> I want my deskbar applt to have a text box right on the panel.. How can I set that up?
[04:55] <drivetrax> ah
[04:55] <drivetrax> yes
[04:55] <kuahara> hmm..slight issue
[04:55] <eboyjr> whoops
[04:55] <gleyve> fde: I have something new about my webcam...now it tells me microdia
[04:55] <demonspork> lopin, they better not be failing
[04:55] <UberCanuck> demonspork,  or forums?  (sorry, no idea)
[04:55] <zcat[1]> well, you have network and could scp it, or you can plug in a USB drive..
[04:55] <UberCanuck> demonspork, maybe dns
[04:56] <demonspork> lopin, only had it fer 1 year
[04:56] <kuahara> this is just a list of file and folder names.  When I try to cd into a directory, it says no such file or directory
[04:56] <lopin> UberCanuck: I know how to get the zip file open...  ^.^  I need to get to the file system to get to them, however, and they're in my vmware disk image.
[04:56] <kuahara> even tho it is there
[04:56] <fde> gina: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[04:56] <Jberg88> hello all
[04:56] <gleyve> fde: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10668/
[04:56] <Fa> !forums
[04:56] <gina> fde thanks a lot
[04:56] <kuahara> nm
[04:56] <kuahara> it works
[04:56] <gina> i will take a look
[04:56] <lopin> demonspork: I've heard that a segmentation fault is like when you're walking along, not even paying attention, and then you stumble on something...
[04:56] <UberCanuck> lopin, so the zip is on the vm image?  so - open it in vmware player or server, unzip 'em, scp 'em back to your host
[04:56] <zcat[1]> kuahara: cd into 'lost' first :)
[04:56] <kuahara> I was specifying the wrong path  =o
[04:56] <nano_> hey guys, how can i stop the automatic creating of "Music" and "Video" directories in my ~/ ?
[04:57] <kuahara> yea, forgot we just listed it and didn't move there  =p
[04:57] <nano_> its seriously annoying
[04:57] <lopin> demonspork: And, then you just jerk awake..
[04:57] <fde> gleyve: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569252
[04:57] <lopin> UberCanuck: I can't get vmware workin on Hardy.  That's the problem!  ^.^
[04:57] <kuahara> anyway... can you help me change the other partition into a 30GB part and the remaining space into its own part?
[04:57] <nano_> lopin: seg fault is when ur program access mem that it should not...
[04:57] <UberCanuck> lopin, oh, why didn't you say so!?  :-)  whats the error?
[04:57] <zcat[1]> kuahara: if you want to take the risk, you can just treat is as probably OK and work from there.. I wouldn't but it's your drive :)
[04:57] <demonspork> lopin, I have heard that a segmentation fault is when you are walking along and step into an interdimensional bridge that destroys the universe and then you cease to exist
[04:57] <kuahara> the 30GB can be whatever partition type that ubuntu needs it to be
[04:57] <kuahara> the rest needs to be ntfs
[04:58] <jc> fivehorizons: still no luck?
[04:58] <kuahara> I will let windows format the bigger ntfs partition
[04:58] <drivetrax> Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[04:58] <drivetrax> whee
[04:58] <fivehorizons> jc: nope :(
[04:58] <GuyFromHell> How can i convert a video to a specific size, like. 1G size not 1024x768 size?
[04:58] <jc> my kid was trying to copy ogg files to her mp3 player and wanted to know why they would not play :)
[04:58] <Starnestommy> drivetrax: what about tcl8.4-dev ?
[04:58] <kuahara> zcat, do you have a paypal account?
[04:58] <gavin__> I cannot set the A3 page size in open office draw. Only A4 is correct. I am using gutsy. Please help
[04:59] <babola1> jc: which player was she trying them with?
[04:59] <zcat[1]> kuahara: nope, don't worry about it. Always happy to help
[04:59] <fivehorizons> jc: i did discover however that port 5900 is listening on a tcp, but SSH and FTP are listening on tcp6.......I dont know if this means anything
[04:59] <Prez00> the error i get when trying to run vmware workstation 5.6 even after applying latest vmware-any-any patches: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10669/
[04:59] <jc> babola1: creative zen
[04:59] <lopin> UberCanuck: I did!  Let me go get the bug and I'll pastebin it...
[04:59] <drivetrax> tclx8.4
[04:59] <zcat[1]> gtg ttfn..
[04:59] <drivetrax> in synaptic
[04:59] <jc> fivehorizons: shouldn't mean anything
[05:00] <GroundZer0> Starnestommy
[05:00] <Starnestommy> GroundZer0: yes?
[05:00] <babola1> jc: do u mean the unit as in mp3 player?
[05:00] <lopin> jc: OGG is different than MP3.  It's like he's speaking latin to an MP3 player that only speaks english
[05:00] <jc> fivehorizons: try changeing the local port to something other then 5900
[05:00] <lopin> jc: the player is just kinda going wtf?
[05:01] <Ashfire908> How do I set my computer's Windows Workgroup for samba?
[05:01] <k20a>  how do i get rid of my swap?
[05:01] <jc> lopin, babola1 : I know thats what I was trying to explain to her, she still does not get it, so I just thanged the music extractor to default to mp3 rather then ogg, now she's happy
[05:01] <styles> Whats the best way to install Wine on Ubuntu?
[05:02] <Starnestommy> styles: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:02] <k20a> styles in synaptic install the wine pakage
[05:02] <k20a> or that
[05:02] <styles> k20a, starnestommy, whats the difference in the two?
[05:02] <eboyjr> We need D on #ubuntu-trivia
[05:02] <Starnestommy> styles: mine's command line, k20a's is graphical, but they both install the same wine
[05:02] <k20a> the difference is you are either using apt-get or synaptic to get the package
[05:02] <fde> styles: One gets you pretty pictures to click on... the other does it with no frills
[05:02] <gcarrillo> whats the name of the clock in the panel?
[05:02] <jc> ok gota go, the my wife wants some attention too tonight by all and thanks for all the help
[05:02] <lopin> jc: That's perhaps one of the best MP3 players on the market.  Cried when my Zen Vision M's screen died.  But, anyway, creative doesn't use that format, which is funny cause the cheapy chineese made mp3 players use ogg...
[05:02] <styles> k just wondering :)
[05:03] <UberCanuck> k20a, remove it from /etc/fstab, turn off swap
[05:03] <babola1> jc: what lopin said.. but if its other formats in it u seek, u'd probably want to look up its firmware.. heck, who knows might be that Creative finally realizes the best things in life are free
[05:03] <k20a> thanks uber
[05:03] <nano_> hey guys, how can i stop the automatic creating of "Music" and "Video" directories in my ~/ ?
[05:03] <gcarrillo> nm, "clock"
[05:03] <k20a> how to i turn it off after i remove it?
[05:03] <fivehorizons> jc: by local port, do you mean source or destination port in Putty?
[05:03] <Administrator> he
[05:03] <Administrator> hi
[05:04] <fde> k20a: swapoff
[05:04] <styles> How do you uninstall something? :P
[05:04] <babola1> !hi | Administrator
[05:04] <Administrator> im having problems installing ubuntu on my main pc
[05:04] <styles> !hi | Styles
[05:04] <voland> hi all
[05:04] <babola1> styles: Add/Remove Applications or apt-get remove
[05:04] <fde> k20a: so swapoff /dev/<whatever>
[05:04] <mkelly32> hi, i'm looking to install ubuntu on a system w/ dm-crypt & lvm for the root partition... the standard installer doesn't seem to support either of those options... is there some sort of "expert mode" i can run it in? or maybe just mount the system from the command line and run something to install the base system into /mnt or what not?
[05:04] <Administrator> can anyone help me with my problem
[05:04] <styles> The program isant found in Add/Remove apps
[05:05] <Starnestommy> styles: use synaptic
[05:05] <Administrator> brb let me go cheange my name
[05:05] <patifa> styles: what program?
[05:05] <babola1> then sudo apt-get remove appname might work
[05:05] <fde> Administrator: What issues are you encountering?
[05:05] <h00k> !trivia
[05:05] <fde> mkelly32: you need to use the alternate installer.
[05:05] <kitsuneofdoom> My Rhythymbox stopped working with the upgrade to 8.04, complaining it didn't have the proper codec for ogg, however, it pointed to the ugly plugins, and after I installed them, it still didn't work
[05:05] <styles> patifa: Cedega
[05:05] <mkelly32> fde: hmm, and that requires me to download a whole other .iso, doesn't it?
[05:06] <fde> mkelly32: fraid so...
[05:06] <lopin> UberCanuck: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m72e49324
[05:06] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, easier: alternate iso, harder, netinst
[05:06] <patifa> cedega might not have used the package manager
[05:06] <BonezAU> I've been using ubuntu for the last 3 years and i'm now running Hardy. I want to know, is there a list of some really cool apps that I may not have come across? Anything really.. just getting bored with the same applications and want something interesting to do!
[05:06] <Milo> is there anyone that knows why the new unbuntu will not install on my desktop pc
[05:06] <starcannon> kitsuneofdoom occasionally I have found that reinstalling a media player after installing the plugins gets it going again, try going into synaptic and reinstalling rhythmbox perhaps?
[05:07] <mkelly32> fde: does that cd come w/ lvm / dm-crypt on its own? or do i need to apt-get them from the cd environment?
[05:07] <fde> mkelly32: it will allow you to set it up during install
[05:07] <mkelly32> UberCanuck: i'm a former gentoo dev, a netinst shouldn't be too scary for me
[05:07] <babola1> styles: do: sudo dpkg -r cedega
[05:07] <fde> mkelly32: same process, same wasted cd... less download off the bat  :)
[05:07] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, its not documented for ubuntu, but if you go to debian, you will find instructions (that work with ubuntu)
[05:08] <kitsuneofdoom> starcannon: done it
[05:08] <UberCanuck> lopin, k, sec
[05:08] <Milo> anyone
[05:08] <mkelly32> well, i've installed this desktop w/ the standard disk, so i have it downloaded already... but i figure a netinst image is smaller?
[05:08] <mkelly32> UberCanuck: ya, i think i've done a debian netinst install relatively recently
[05:09] <BonezAU> hi, i'm  having trouble getting xmms2 to work. I installed it, but there are no icons on my menu and when i type 'xmms2' at the bash prompt it gives me some CLI based options only. what happened to the GUI?
[05:09] <xapgyep> i have tohiba satelite a200 and tv out didn`t work. Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition
[05:09] <fde> mkelly32: netinst is 160-ish megs
[05:09] <UberCanuck> lopin, read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613976
[05:09] <Milo> <hi
[05:10] <starcannon> kitsuneofdoom dang... maybe a different media player would work out better?
[05:10] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, its the same thing
[05:10] <mkelly32> fde: yeah, like a third the size of the alternate cd
[05:10] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, you converting from gentoo or just seeing how others live?
[05:10] <stoneDJay> hi... Is the flash player from adobe installing OK up to now on Hardy?
[05:10] <mkelly32> UberCanuck: seeing how it is for others
[05:10] <kitsuneofdoom> starcannon: totem doesn't, audacious does, but I prefer Rhythymbox an it ought to work
[05:10] <fde> stoneDJay: yes
[05:10] <babola1> !ask | Milo
[05:10] <mkelly32> gotta say, it's very slick
[05:11] <UberCanuck> stoneDJay, 32bit, yes. not sure about 64bit in hardy
[05:11] <mkelly32> and less annoying than i found it last time i tried it
[05:11] <stoneDJay> fde:  nice!   I had some troubles with beta...
[05:11] <BonezAU> hi, i'm  having trouble getting xmms2 to work. I installed it, but there are no icons on my menu and when i type 'xmms2' at the bash prompt it gives me some CLI based options only. what happened to the GUI?
[05:11] <djhash> stoneDJay: I just did that and it worked fine for me. However people have been telling me that installation is best through apt-get or synaptic
[05:11] <babola1> styles: did sudo dpkg -r cedega?
[05:11] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, :-) kewl.  welcome to apt-get (though emerge is 'made for men' and I like it very much)
[05:11] <mkelly32> i wasn't completely scared by the relatively few questions the installer asked... the partitioner made me feel safe that it wasn't trashing anything
[05:11] <Milo> im having troble installing ubuntu 8.4 lts server on my q6600 abit  system
[05:11] <mkelly32> like how it confirmed exactly what was being formatted before i began
[05:11] <Milo> it can not detect the sata drive
[05:11] <styles> babola1: yeah worked :)
[05:12] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, you can increate verbosity for questions - its default to lower settings than debian
[05:12] <babola1> styles: ok
[05:12] <stoneDJay> djhash:  ok... I will install it from synaptic, also
[05:12] <mkelly32> UberCanuck: i've used apt before, run some old debian stable servers
[05:12] <fde> mkelly32: heh... compared to the Gentoo installer, must have been confusing...
[05:12] <UberCanuck> mkelly32, kewl - been using debian before it hit v1
[05:12] <mkelly32> fde: the gentoo installer is total junk, last i checked
[05:12] <mkelly32> i just do it the "old fashioned way"
[05:13] <theLichKing> C
[05:13] <bcgrown> I uninstalled network-manager to check if it was causing a problem I was having (no), then reinstalled,  now I only get IPv6 (not needed),  but no IPv4.  How can I turn IPv6 off and have it configure my IPv4 properly?
[05:13] <fde> mkelly32: I think everyone does... it's just interesting seeing if they've improved it...
[05:13] <mkelly32> i think the compiz stuff is done pretty tastefully
[05:13] <mkelly32> none of the overkill stuff like the cube even if i pump the options up to high in the appearances dialog
[05:14] <mkelly32> though playing with that was kinda fun back in the day :p
[05:14] <starcannon> kitsuneofdoom yeah i hear ya, i prefer xmms for my music needs, they took it out of synaptic in 8.04, and I never really got along with xmms2 so I'll be putting that together from scratch possibly
[05:14] <mkelly32> fde: actually, the 2007 version was worse than previous ones
[05:14] <u^A_> http://photo.pchome.com.tw/ anyone have such problem displaying the page?
[05:14] <fde> mkelly32: That and the wobbly windows effect is more a showoff thing than a general usage thing.
[05:14] <GroundZer0>  whats "feh" background image handler
[05:15] <u^A_> the flash on top of it can't be removed, if it's in windows, no suchj thing happend
[05:15] <fde> GroundZer0: apt-cache show feh
[05:15] <jacquesmerde> isn't ubuntu's "add/remove" applications thing a bit misleading, since it doesnt do dependency removal. i mean, most people would think that if they used add/remove to add a program, and the subsequently remove it, they'll end up where they started
[05:15] <mkelly32> about the only irksome thing i don't see an immediate workaround for is that the desktop background can't be set separately for my two monitors (both on one x display, using nvidia's twinview)
[05:15] <bpat1182> what's a good skinnable im client for gnome?
[05:15] <MightyTweek> aptitude and the gui Software Installer should use the same repositories, right?
[05:15] <mkelly32> guess i could always jam two images together in just the right way w/ the gimp...
[05:15] <patifa> MightyTweek, yes
[05:16] <GroundZer0> fde, how come i cant do apt-get install amsn (the msn client for linux)
[05:16] <BonezAU> hi, i'm  having trouble getting xmms2 to work. I installed it, but there are no icons on my menu and when i type 'xmms2' at the bash prompt it gives me some CLI based options only. what happened to the GUI?
[05:16] <mkelly32> but since the panels are smart enough to know where the monitors borders are, i'd think the desktop would be too
[05:16] <fde> GroundZer0: No idea, why does it say you can't?
[05:16] <fde> GroundZer0: 'sudo aptitude install amsn'
[05:17] <demonspork> is opera left out of the hardy heron repo?
[05:17] <MightyTweek> patifa: I just tried doing an update with Aptitude and it said it couldn't update some packages because there were unmet dependancies, yet when I ran the Update Manager it saw a bunch of updates that Aptitude didn't see and installed everything just fine! Any idea why that might have happened?
[05:17] <gleyve> fde: I found a descriptor for my webcam driver....0c45_624f_device_descriptors.txt
[05:17] <patifa> MightyTweek, I suppose their behavior is different.
[05:18] <gleyve> fde:  any idea what can i do eith this descripttor?
[05:18] <fde> gleyve: sorry, I'm not a device developer
[05:18] <BonezAU> what is going on with xmms2? can someone pls help
[05:18] <bpat1182> How would you cleanly and completely remove a package and all its dependencies?
[05:19] <legend2440> !xmms
[05:19] <fde> bpat1182: sudo aptitude --purge <package>
[05:19] <bpat1182> fde thanks
[05:19] <gleyve> fde: :) ok man, lol
[05:19] <fde> bpat1182: sudo aptitude purge <package> sorry
[05:19] <MightyTweek> patifa: I thought maybe the Update Manager might try another repository if it couldn't connect to the specified one or something. Not a big deal, just curious
[05:19] <patifa> demonspork, opera isn't in the hardy heron repository, it's in the 'partner' repository.
[05:19] <starcannon> jacquesmerde dependencies are left in place because the user may have installed other software that now depends on it... though that could be recorded as well, evidentally the consensus view is to just leave the depends installed
[05:19] <slestak> can anyone tell me how to downgrade the kernel package from 2.6.24-16 to 2.6.24-12 using apt or aptitude
[05:19] <UberCanuck> demonspork, maybe in the mediubuntu repos?  don't know, don't use it
[05:19] <bpat1182> fde: thanks
[05:19] <BonezAU> legend2440, xmms is not a package in ubuntu anymore. it seems to have moved to xmms2, but when i install that package, i get no GUI
[05:20] <famicom> Is there anyone here that has experience with ubuntu run levels
[05:20] <famicom> I'm reading the documentation, but i don't really grok it
[05:20] <fde> famicom: Ubuntu doesn't have different default runlevels for 2-5
[05:20] <patifa> MightyTweek, oh, maybe.  I just meant they still search the same repositories (i.e. hardy-updates), though that's to say nothing of what servers they go through.
[05:20] <famicom> fde oh
[05:21] <famicom> well, that explains a lot
[05:21] <famicom> what's the ubuntu equivalent of init
[05:21] <fde> famicom: They can be customized if you'd like, but by default they are exactly the same.
[05:21] <famicom> well, I want to ad a script to init
[05:21] <famicom> but it was written with debian in mind
[05:22] <forsaken> how do I get the expose-like effects in hardy? (show all windows when i go to an edge of the screen)
[05:22] <jacquesmerde> starcannon: i understand why they leave dependencies, i'm just saying that they do that should be more clear
[05:22] <drivetrax> I used Synaptic twice now.. to get eggdrop.. but nothing happened
[05:23] <famicom> If i want to start something, do you use exec or script
[05:23] <drivetrax> I used Synaptic to get TCLX8.4 , but the tcl cannot be found
[05:23] <Starnestommy> drivetrax: what about just tcl8.4 ?
[05:23] <jacquesmerde> starcannon: and i take it the issue is not removing depencies which could be relied upon by other installed apps, because those particular cases could be avoided, but people not realising they want to keep one of the dependencies in its own right
[05:23] <drivetrax> rather.. synaptic said it installed eggdrop.. but.. it did not
[05:23] <famicom> drivetrax then install it from source
[05:23] <famicom> duh
[05:23] <fde> forsaken: run 'gconf-editor' and go to /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options and configure it as you'd like
[05:23] <UberCanuck> drivetrax, dpkg -L tcl8.4
[05:24] <cappicard> what's a good alternative to automatix in hardy?
[05:24] <drivetrax> looks
[05:24] <famicom> cappicard apt-get
[05:24] <fde> cappicard: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:24] <kuahara> what is apt-get  how does that work in linux (I'm a linux nub)
[05:24] <UberCanuck> drivetrax, I apt-cached it, found, might be in another repo
[05:24] <Xcell> Ye Ha!
[05:24] <famicom> automatix is a pile of wank
[05:24] <slestak> can anyone tell me how to downgrade the kernel package from 2.6.24-16 to 2.6.24-12 using apt or aptitude
[05:24] <Xcell> Ubuntu rox
[05:25] <fde> !apt > kuahara
[05:25] <famicom> slestak remove the metapackages that installed it
[05:25] <famicom> and then get the kernel specific version
[05:25] <UberCanuck> famicom, stay away from automatix - not really needed since before gutsy
[05:25] <famicom> UberCanuck agreed
[05:25] <novmware> lopin: any progress with vvmware? i am on my internet tablet now, hard to  follow conversation..
[05:26] <famicom> it's just a shellscript that is visualized by zenity
[05:26] <slestak> famicom: when i do apt-cache search, i only see 2.6.24-16 available.  wonder if i need to enable other repo to get 2.6.24-12 available?
[05:26] <slestak> maybe a gutsy repo?
[05:26] <kuahara> pulled my wife's hdd so I can backup all this crap on hers.  literally took 2+ minutes just to see a windows screen indicating that it was starting that os
[05:26] <famicom> search the package database
[05:26] <famicom> yeah
[05:26] <famicom> windows is bad
[05:27] <famicom> it cripples your computer
[05:27] <kuahara> its not windows, its the weird ass way I connected the drive to the machine
[05:27] <BonezAU> Hi, i have problem installing xmms-wma: xmms-wma:
[05:27] <BonezAU>  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+20070501) but it is not installable
[05:27] <kuahara> on my own sata drive, it takes me 30ish seconds to get from off to into and using windows or linux...whichever one I boot into
[05:28] <drivetrax> wow.. synaptic installed it all in /usr/lib/
[05:28] <UberCanuck> slestak, on apt-cache search, I see 2.6.24 linux-image
[05:28] <rangef1nder> what package do you need for streamign audio?
[05:28] <famicom> kuahara could be
[05:28] <famicom> rangef1nder what do you want to stream
[05:28] <fde> UberCanuck: Only -16 (default hardy) or -17 (update) is available since release though.
[05:28] <famicom> ugh
[05:28] <slestak> UberCanuck: -16 or -12?  or both?
[05:28] <famicom> screw it
[05:28] <famicom> this channel makes me hate people
[05:29] <UberCanuck> fde, correct
[05:29] <rangef1nder> just audio from xms
[05:29] <fde> famicom: /part
[05:29] <UberCanuck> slestak, 16
[05:29] <slestak> im getting sr0 cd read errors with that kernel.  im trying to get back to -12
[05:29] <lopin> novmware: patch any-any 116 works...
[05:30] <lopin> novmware:  I haven't tried running anything yet, but the player started...
[05:30] <lopin> So, all else fails...
[05:31] <novmware> lopin: hmmm. .. i tried 116, player did not start 4 me.. is lopin from big touble in little china?
[05:31] <kil20> Hi
[05:31] <lopin> novmware: did you try the one line patch?
[05:31] <bcgrown> I uninstalled network-manager to check if it was causing a problem I was having (no), then reinstalled,  now I only get IPv6 (not needed),  but no IPv4.  How can I turn IPv6 off and have it configure my IPv4 properly?
[05:31] <lopin> novmware: if it's talking about bitops.h, you need to change a line in a particular file...
[05:32] <kil20> Can any one tell me how the folder sharing will be done in hardy.. becoz the folder I have shared is not showing in network
[05:33] <novmware> lopin: did not try one line patch, what is it?
[05:33] <lopin> Hold on...
[05:33] <kil20> any one there
[05:33] <Starnestommy> kil20: yes, there are a lot of people here
[05:33] <kil20>  Can any one tell me how the folder sharing will be done in hardy.. becoz the folder I have shared is not showing in network
[05:34] <lopin> novmware: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m72e49324
[05:34] <virtuald> bcgrown: ipv6 working is not related to ipv4 not working because ipv6 always auto configures
[05:34] <lopin> novmware: Then do the 116 thing
[05:34] <lopin> novmware: then it works fine
[05:34] <djhash> !repeat | kil20
[05:34] <bcgrown> virtuald: ok...  then how do i make ipv4 work properly? :)
[05:34] <styles> #wine
[05:35] <djhash> !wine | styles
[05:35] <virtuald> bcgrown: what network device do you want to use? eth0? do you know?
[05:35] <novmware> lopin: ok, will try it tomorrow .. my laptop is out of gas..
[05:35] <bcgrown> virtuald: i don't know and im in windows now so i cant exactly check.  i would guess it is eth0 since i have only one (a USB ethernet adapter)
[05:36] <bcgrown> virtuald: but the ipv6 was saying it was config'd for eth1
[05:36] <virtuald> ok
[05:36] <virtuald> !pastebin
[05:37] <ishbibenob> I am running hardy and cant seem to save info on one of my hard drives, it says something about no permissions any one have any ideas?
[05:37] <virtuald> bcgrown: is it connected to a local network or to your ISP?
[05:37] <bcgrown> virtuald: to my ISP through a cable modem.  DHCP.  nothing fancy
[05:38] <virtuald> ok
[05:38] <kuahara> ok, zcat just helped me recreate the partition that all my data was stored in before.  we created a folder and called it 'lost'.  This is where we mounted the new partition.  In lost, I was able to see all my files and folders
[05:38] <kuahara> the partition is ntfs as well
[05:38] <RB2> Evening all. I installed the new package updates (all thunderbird) and during the install of those updates, my sound just stopped working. Now, when I bring up the Volume control, it goes dark gray and freezes. Any suggestions?
[05:38] <kuahara> when I attach a new HDD to this machine that has windows as the primary os and I boot into it, I am not able to explore the recovered partition and copy the data over
[05:38] <kuahara> it says its all in a folder called system volume and when I explore, I get an access denied error
[05:39] <kuahara> how do I recover my files?
[05:39] <robc4> anyone having FF3 Beta 5 lockups?
[05:39] <bcgrown> virtuald: do you have any ideas?  we can continue outside the channel if you want
[05:39] <ccaic_> 3.0b5
[05:39] <RB2> Now the terminal window locks up as well
[05:39] <virtuald> brent113: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10674/
[05:40] <styles> API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 169.12, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 71.86.04.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[05:40] <styles> Any ideas?
[05:40] <Xcell> Folks.
[05:40] <Xcell> Ubuntu roX
[05:40] <RB2> Any ideas anyone?
[05:40] <virtuald> brent113: oh and use sudo to edit that file, save and do sudo ifup eth1
[05:41] <os2mac> back
[05:41] <bcgrown> virtuald: i think you meant that to be for me, so thanks, i will try it!
[05:42] <virtuald> bcgrown: yeah that was for you :>
[05:42] <virtuald> brent113: sorry, wrong nick
[05:42] <virtuald> time for breakfast, afk
[05:43] <marupa> Got a weird issue.  I can play lots of video files in mplayer, but one particular one doesn't have sound.  I copied over the .vob from the DVD, and loading the vob into vlc works, I can hear it just fine, but trying to play the same file in mplayer offers no audio at all.  Is there a particular setting I need to set?
[05:43] <bcgrown> rebooting to ubuntu, ciao!
[05:43] <marupa> Ubuntu 8.04, 32b
[05:44] <GunbladeIV> i need help on compiling custom kernel
[05:44] <GunbladeIV> anyone?
[05:44] <GunbladeIV> i want to compile kernel 2.6.25 on ubuntu hardy with rt73usb module
[05:45] <lwizardl> Hi
[05:45] <djhash> Hi
[05:45] <djhash> :-)
[05:45] <lwizardl> in 8.04 how do i remove what ever it is that auto stops all flash displays
[05:46] <Xcell> hi
[05:46] <djhash> check if you have stop autoplay plugin in firefox (i am assuming ur using firefox)
[05:47] <djhash> !ask |Xcell
[05:48] <albech> hi guys. Since yesterday i am experiencing random freezes of my bluetooth devices..
[05:48] <Xcell> funny
[05:48] <albech> they wake up again after 5-10 sec
[05:48] <albech> running gutsy and everything worked fine up until yesterday
[05:48] <nj786> is there a way to find out what types of new upgrades are in this new ubuntu
[05:49] <djhash> nj786: in ubuntu's site.. i belive there is a page on whats new.. let me get you the link
[05:50] <marupa> Anyone?
[05:50] <styles> API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 169.12, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 71.86.04.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[05:50] <styles>  Any ideas?
[05:50] <starcannon> albech sounds like possibly line of sight disconnects is anything getting between the device and the computer? Bluetooth in my opinion is very unstable, even on devices, my headset and my phone for instance, I can not put the phone in my coat pocket, the headset will lose its connection etc...
[05:51] <Cartucci> i am trying to set up a local repo ant  its there but i can not do local repo installs or updates
[05:51] <nj786> djhash: link?
[05:51] <Xcell> starannon:be ptient = 60 days
[05:52] <Xcell> patient
[05:52] <starcannon> styles it sounds like you installed one over the top of another, I have a guide in pastebin, if you don't skip any steps it should fix you up, http://pastebin.com/f4d1facb2
[05:52] <starcannon> Xcell hmmm?
[05:52] <djhash> nj786: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804overview
[05:52] <styles> starcannon: thanks
[05:52] <starcannon> styles anytime
[05:52] <albech> starcannon: its been working fine for more than a year
[05:53] <Xcell> I prolly  missed it, im sry
[05:53] <starcannon> albech oh, hehe, that stuff I said before... um ignore it hehe
[05:53] <albech> starcannon: with the exact same setup
[05:53] <albech> starcannon: ;)
[05:53] <Xcell> I just hooked back in
[05:53] <djhash> Hey guys.. i'm using Konversation.. i'
[05:53] <nj786> djhash: is there any problems so far?
[05:54] <albech> anyone know if they fixed the wireless intel driver issues with 8.04?
[05:54] <Xcell> <----- is on break, brb
[05:55] <djhash> nj786: well.. i've had some trouble.. but nothing big.. but the problem was from my end not ubuntus.. so try the LiveCD and see if you like it... although Firefox is the FF 3 Beta.. but i haven't had any problems with it yet..
[05:55] <drivetrax> My TCLsh info patchlevel shows 8.4.15
[05:56] <drivetrax> uh..
[05:56] <nj786> djhash: well i basically ran an upgrade to get the new ubuntu
[05:56] <drivetrax> the eggdrop that is sent via Synaptic.. is not a binary?
[05:57] <alfa> sofyan?
[05:57] <djhash> nj786: actually the upgrade is what killed me..lol.. upgrading from fiesty was a bit of a hassle.. so i did a clean install.. but it turns out the problem was with one of my other hard drives...
[05:57] <sTeFFi_19> test
[05:57] <marupa> Any ideas for things I can try to fix the audio in mplayer?
[05:58] <starcannon> sTeFFi_19 it works :)
[05:58] <nj786> djhash: i see...i seem to have no trouble yet so far...
[05:58] <djhash> anyways back to my "mis-entered" msg.. i'm using konversation... and I want to be able to do something like right click a nick name then everytime that nick sends a msg in channel.. it will highlight it... any ideas?!!
[05:59] <djhash> nj786: i'm actually thinking of breaking it.. and seeing what I can learn from fixing it.. thats how i learned on windows..lol
[06:00] <starcannon> is there a good grub gui for configuring grub?
[06:00] <djhash> starcannon: grubED
[06:01] <nickrud> starcannon or startupmanager
[06:01] <starcannon> djhash nickrud thanks
[06:01] <undecim> Hey, everyone, I have a question about chroot....
[06:01] <marupa> Anyone here with mencoder/mplayer experience?
[06:02] <nj786> djhash: do you know how to install icon themes?
[06:02] <djhash> starcannon: can you handle one more? grubConf :-)
[06:02] <Xcell> Folks: donate, thanks.
[06:02] <starcannon> sure and thanks djhash
[06:02] <djhash> !ask | undecim
[06:02] <ushimitsudoki> where do i add/edit the password for the default keyring? in hardy it seems many applications are raising a dialog to access the default keyring, but i don't recall setting this up
[06:03] <Xcell> !donate
[06:03] <undecim> if I were to create a chroot environment and give someone root access to that environment, would they be able to do anything at all to my computer?
[06:03] <Xcell> I did
[06:03] <djhash> nj786: sorry but i'm not THAT good in ubuntu :-P
[06:03] <nickrud> undecim as long as they are in the chroot, they can't see anything above it
[06:03] <Starnestommy> undecim: just to the chroot environment.
[06:03]  * djhash wonders then how good is he?!!
[06:03] <kindofabuzz> undecim: anyone in the admin group can do anything they want
[06:04] <Xcell> Im good djhash
[06:04] <undecim> So, they couldn't for example, mess with my running kernel?
[06:04] <albuntu> am i missing java here ? exec: 26: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java: not found ? if yes what is the package i have to download ?
[06:04] <patifa> undecim: They could load modules into the kernel.
[06:04] <adapter`> I seem to be having an issue with setting a static IP address in 8.04 anyone around?
[06:04] <djhash> Xcell: then please answer this question for both of us.. do you know how to install icon themes?
[06:05] <Xcell> djhash:  i onate monthly. why? cuz these folks rox, plain and simple
[06:05] <bouma> the update manager wants to download a 14meg evolution update, i dont use evolution so instead i used synaptic to remove evolution and two other dependancies i think plugin and something containing evo in the name, but the update manager still wants to download the 14meg evolution update, im pretty sure ive removed it
[06:05] <frogscott> does anyone here know how to install Virtual Box on Ubuntu?
[06:05] <marupa> albuntu, sun-java-6
[06:05] <stroyan> undecim: Root access in a chroot can make and access device files.  It can do serious damage.
[06:05] <bouma> and ive rechecked for updates, and rebooted
[06:05] <usser> adapter`, what kind of issue?
[06:05] <albuntu> marupa: thanks
[06:05] <albuntu> frogscott: you find virtualbox in synaptic
[06:05] <undecim> okay, thanks.
[06:05] <adapter`> if I try setting a static IP address for the box it won't work it's only working under dhcp
[06:05] <marupa> albuntu, if that doesn't work, sun-java6-bin
[06:05] <djhash> Xcell: i actually was commenting on myself being not-a-mere more than a noob in ubuntu.. yet i'm trying to help people :-P
[06:06] <frogscott> yes sir I have it installed now I need to load XP on it Albuntu
[06:06] <usser> albuntu, that should do it sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-modules-generic
[06:06] <Xcell> djhash:  donate, its way cheaper than u know who.
[06:06] <usser> albuntu, sorry, wasnt for you
[06:06] <Xcell> way cheaper
[06:07] <sc006> virtual box web page has a good manual too.
[06:07] <usser> adapter`, do you also set default gateway?
[06:07] <OmegaNine> How do I set my video drivers to use the non-free restirced nvidia drivers
[06:07] <nickrud> Xcell if people want to contribute they will, they don't need to be nagged ;)
[06:07] <frogscott> yes I have gone through all that manual
[06:07] <djhash> Xcell: I will as soon as I get a job.. I'm a student, and my brother gives me pocket money...
[06:07] <JeffATL> ubuntu 8.04 install on known working new hardware - screen has gone black and has stayed that way for ~15 mins.  broken?
[06:07] <usser> adapter`, and dns server has to be set manually as well
[06:07] <albuntu> frogscott: use the iso of xp in it. its very simple to set it up
[06:07] <Xcell> I dont nag, i meerly ask.
[06:07] <frogscott> iso of XP is that in there already albuntu?
[06:07] <Xcell> meegerly
[06:07] <adapter`> yes I did, I've tried from the graphical menu and and I've tried from /etc/network/interfaces too
[06:08] <frogscott> let me look for that thanks
[06:08] <usser> frogscott, uhm no, iso or windows xp cd
[06:08] <albuntu> frogscott: no. it isnt there. you have to select the iso
[06:08] <djhash> >ifdown Xcell
[06:08] <frogscott> where would I find the iso?
[06:08] <adapter`> I've noticed I can't access my router config from that box either
[06:08] <ccaic> vbox
[06:08] <usser> adapter`, pastebin your interfaces file if u dont mind
[06:08] <frogscott> when i am setting vritual box up is it?
[06:09] <Tm_T> JeffATL: hmm, when you hit alt-ctrl-F2 you end up to commandline, where you can log in and check if X logs have anything interesting, right?
[06:09] <nickrud> djhash missed the question about icon packs; right click the desktop, and drag the icon pack onto the dialog window; you'll see the selector after you hit the customize button
[06:09] <frogscott> it is already set up and now how to find it?
[06:09] <usser> adapter`, so its not dns issue, can u ping your own ip?
[06:09] <Carbonflux> in your home dir frogscott
[06:09] <Carbonflux> .VirtualBox
[06:09] <Carbonflux> is the default
[06:09] <adapter`> no it won't ping
[06:09] <JeffATL> Tm_T: grew impatient; rebooted via button
[06:09] <Xcell> hey djhash these folks allowed me freedom from windoze....shaddap.
[06:10] <Carbonflux> the binary will be in /usr/bin
[06:10] <Carbonflux> type whereis virtualbox
[06:10] <djhash> nickrud: thanks..
[06:10] <Tm_T> JeffATL: heh, it could be just overactive screensaver for example, or, buggy driver, or, whatever
[06:10] <djhash> nj786: did you get that?
[06:10] <Carbonflux> I use virtual box a lot, I really like it
[06:10] <usser> adapter`, can u pastebin your interfaces also when with dhcp did u look at ifconfig see what kind of address router gives?
[06:10] <nj786> djhash: yes
[06:11] <djhash> Xcell: I get my windows for a mere buck.... $5 for WinXP Pro and $10 for Win Vista <--- no not a typo
[06:11] <usser> !piracy
[06:11] <frogscott> there is nothing in .VirtualBox folder of an iso of XP
[06:11] <Xcell> djhash:  enjoy
[06:11] <enes> i got a lil problem connect to WHS
[06:11] <enes> can anyone help?
[06:11] <Tm_T> djhash: Xcell: if this conversation is not about support, please use offtopic channels
[06:11] <frogscott> how would I get an ISO of XP? lol thats not possible
[06:11] <frogscott> I have a cd of it
[06:11] <nickellery> !ask |enes
[06:12] <Xcell> thank you
[06:12] <JeffATL> Tm_T: looks like black screen upon booting also - ctl-alt-f2 gets me to a text mode login prompt - am looking at xorg log now
[06:12] <Carbonflux> frogscott, if you have a legal copy I can tell you ;)
[06:12] <patifa> frogscott, you can create an ISO from the CD, then install from the ISO using virtualbox.
[06:12] <enes> mk
[06:12] <Tm_T> JeffATL: great, sounds like just driver issue or so
[06:12] <adapter`> usser, http://pastebin.com/m4d769084
[06:12] <usser> frogscott, sudo umount /dev/cdrom ; dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/xp.iso
[06:12] <Carbonflux> ya ^
[06:12] <Carbonflux> frogscott, http://www.cpqlinux.com/cdrw.html
[06:12] <usser> frogscott, assuming xp cd is in drive
[06:12] <patifa> I have an XP, a win2K, Ubuntu 8.04, 7.10, and a slackware ISO on my computer, for creating various virtual machines.
[06:12] <frogscott> yes it is
[06:13] <nunyabzns> join #wiidev
[06:13] <ccaic> frogscott, you can use cd immediately
[06:13] <nunyabzns> !join #wiidev
[06:13] <o0Chris0o> do screenlets work in 8.04?
[06:13] <OmegaNine> What the name of the restriced nvidia graphics driver?
[06:13] <enes> iam trying to connect to whs. i can see the server samba link, but none of the folders are visible. i have searche some online, but i cant really find anything concrete. anyone else come across the issue or useful info?
[06:13] <JeffATL> Tm_T: can't tell from the log what broke
[06:13] <Starnestommy> nunyabzns: /join #wiidev
[06:13] <Carbonflux> ya same, I have a xubuntu also I like for vbox
[06:13] <usser> adapter`, one sec
[06:13] <patifa> nunyabzns, try putting a / in front of that
[06:13] <frogscott> yes come on who do I listen to? ISO or CD guys?
[06:13] <patifa> OmegaNine, nv I think, let me check
[06:13] <nunyabzns> thanks
[06:14] <o0Chris0o> do screenlets work in 8.04?
[06:14] <Tm_T> JeffATL: "grep EE /vat/log/Xorg.0.log" returns what ? pastebin :)
[06:14] <Carbonflux> o0Chris0o, nice hard to type nick, they do work, you are lucky to get a answer tho
[06:14] <usser> frogscott, get the iso always nice to have a backup of your installation cd
[06:14] <nunyabzns> i forgot it's been a while for me
[06:14] <patifa> o0Chris0o, yes, tried them then went back to gnome applets.
[06:14] <frogscott> ok  thanks usser
[06:14] <Carbonflux> so long as you have python installed
[06:14] <Carbonflux> they work fine
[06:14] <Carbonflux> I still don't see the point of that nick tho
[06:15] <Carbonflux> if you are looking for help heh
[06:15] <rismatika> hayyyy
[06:15] <o0Chris0o> I don't see the point of yours
[06:15] <OmegaNine> I have it installed, (at least apt-get is telling me I do) but I dont think im using the restricted driver
[06:15] <doug_> Carbonflux: all you have to do is type o0 then tab his name its not that hard lol
[06:15] <erat123> anyone have recommendations for virtualization software under ubuntu?
[06:15] <Lord_Tarball> hi, i upgraded to Hardy and my flash support in firefox seems gone; is there any fix out there ?
[06:15] <o0Chris0o> yeah
[06:15] <Carbonflux> doug_, maybe its my font
[06:16] <Carbonflux> guess I need a new font, the zero's and O's look the same
[06:16] <usser> adapter`, hm apart from missing broadcast looks like mine
[06:16] <enes> my flash in hardy works fine
[06:16] <doug_> Carbonflux: ah i hate that lol mine is a little blury as well
[06:16] <o0Chris0o> patifa: didn't know there were gnome screenlets
[06:16] <frogscott> Usser is that two commands or one?
[06:16] <Carbonflux> o0Chris0o, gDesklets
[06:16] <patifa> o0Chris0o, not screenlets, per say, I went back to just using standard gnome applets.
[06:16] <o0Chris0o> ahh
[06:16] <usser> adapter`, its two commands but u can paste it as one line, two commands joined by ";"
[06:16] <o0Chris0o> are they basicly the same?
[06:17] <patifa> I don't think so
[06:17] <monkeybritches> erat123: Try virtual box
[06:17] <marupa> Nobody has mencoder/mplayer experience?
[06:17] <Carbonflux> o0Chris0o, no, they are not python based
[06:17] <adapter`> usser, I read many people seem to be having this problem but I saw no solution on the forums
[06:17] <patifa> The screenlets sat on my desktop, the gnome applets are lodged in my docks.
[06:17] <o0Chris0o> I see
[06:17] <erat123> ﻿monkeybritches: i tried that but it says the kernel is not supported on hardy
[06:17] <sriramoman> how do i prevent network applet enable/disable from overriding ifconfig (eth0 down)?
[06:17] <adapter`> I'll use dhcp if I have to it's just weird how it won't work
[06:17] <Carbonflux> screenlets are really easy to write
[06:17] <usser> adapter`, u dont say, weirdest thing i've ever seen
[06:18] <frogscott> usser is that two commands or one on the iso install? the ones u listed above?
[06:18] <sriramoman> erat123, download VB from their site, not from add/remove.
[06:18] <JeffATL> Tm_T: http://rafb.net/p/PmtxOS82.html
[06:18] <yacc> Hmmm, where to complain about a broken mirror? I'm getting download errors consistently for a day now :(
[06:18] <Carbonflux> o0Chris0o, you want them in your widget layer ?
[06:18] <erat123> ﻿sriramoman: ok, i'll try that.  thanks!
[06:18] <usser> frogscott, sigh, kk 2 commands first do sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[06:18] <nickrud> sriramoman I used to disable it by turning off the applet in system->prefs->session
[06:18] <pawan> this command is not working for me
[06:18] <usser> frogscott, after that dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/xp.iso
[06:18] <doug_> frogscott: hey why dont you take the iso and extract it then try it ? its what i do with my iso.s
[06:18] <o0Chris0o> Car I don't think I got widgets
[06:19] <OmegaNine> What the name of the restriced nvidia graphics driver?  Like what the xorg.conf name for it is?
[06:19] <pawan> sudo chmod atx ./nvidia*.run
[06:19] <patifa> usser, he could just use brazero instead
[06:19] <o0Chris0o> I would have to install em
[06:19] <monkeybritches> erat123: How recently did you try? Hardy is listed under the platforms on the download page.
[06:19] <sriramoman> nickrud, basically i want other users(whose passwords i dont know) also to avoid internet usage.
[06:19] <usser> patifa, yes of course but cmd is faster :)
[06:19] <nickrud> pawan sudo chmod a+x nvidia*run
[06:19] <frogscott> I am a newb to Ubuntu I am just trying to do basic install thanks
[06:19] <doug_> Carbonflux: you do codes for widgits?
[06:19] <usser> patifa, and more universal
[06:19] <pawan> ok thanks
[06:19] <sc006> OmegaNine, nvidia
[06:20] <adapter`> usser, I just installed it so I'll reinstall and see if it changes anything
[06:20] <monkeybritches> Everyone was new at something at some point. Except for me because I'm timeless.
[06:20] <OmegaNine> sc006: Hum, thanks.
[06:21] <patifa> usser, I'm just under the feeling that I should tell people the GUI method first, because while I'm fully capable of using the CLI, not everyone else is.
[06:21] <frogscott> or old
[06:21] <doug_> OmegaNine: nvidia video driver?
[06:21] <usser> adapter`, its not gonna help most likely
[06:21] <sc006> OmegaNine, your talking about in the xorg.cong file?
[06:21] <JeffATL> Tm_T: btw, lspci says "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]"
[06:21] <sc006> OmegaNine, or the driver name
[06:21] <dfranke> I just bought a USB MIDI keyboard and I've tried setting it up with Ubuntu Studio to play through JACK/TiMidity, and I'm getting about a half second latency between hitting a key and hearing sound.  Is there anything I can do about that?
[06:21] <OmegaNine> sc006  Yeah, my buddy installed ubuntu and did the upgrade before OKing the use of the driver, now its not letting him OK it
[06:22] <doug_> sc006:  i have a nvidia card if u need a driver installed i know an easy way to do it.
[06:22] <nickrud> sriramoman hm. iirc if you set up a network stanza in interfaces, networkmanager will ignore that connection; don't set it as auto and if/up it down?
[06:22] <frogscott> usser sorry I did sudo bash and am root desktop and it is sayign no such command as sudo unmount
[06:22] <adapter`> I'll see if I can set it on the live cd
[06:23] <Starnestommy> frogscott: umount, not unmount
[06:23] <usser> frogscott, sudo umount
[06:23] <Tm_T> JeffATL: ah, interesting
[06:23] <frogscott> lol
[06:23] <frogscott> ok
[06:23] <Carbonflux> doug_, I was just looking at the source for screenlets, have not written one yet but it looks really easy, there provide a blank sample etc
[06:23] <JeffATL> Tm_T: do i have a path forward or is ubuntu just not the distro for this box?
[06:23] <fserve> fungo: voce eh emo?
[06:24] <doug_> Carbonflux: if you do not mind think you can join me in room #wwwed ? please
[06:24] <frogscott> usser it says not found but the cd is now running
[06:24] <Tm_T> JeffATL: well, whatever the problem is, it's not because of Ubuntu, but I don't know much about ati myself so, hard to say
[06:24] <usser> patifa, i agree but im just so lazy i dont want to go into a lot of explanations on where to click and what to choose
[06:24] <mistform> how do I see if I have USB2?
[06:24] <sc006> doug_, OmegaNine  needs the help
[06:24] <Carbonflux> doug_, I don't have time right now, right in the middle of something. :)
[06:24] <duse|> How do i access my system settings(especially Display settings for my monitor) Via Fluxbox? (installed on xubuntu) ?
[06:24] <Tm_T> JeffATL: can you try "vesa" driver ?
[06:24] <usser> frogscott, not mounted u mean?
[06:24] <aaronzhu> hello all
[06:25] <JeffATL> Tm_T: i have no idea - install never gave me a choice
[06:25] <doug_> sc006:  sorry just woke up thngs r blury lol
[06:25] <frogscott> umount: /dev/cdrom: not found
[06:25] <usser> wth
[06:25] <binarymutant> How can I get directfb to work with links2? I've set the correct permissions but I get a new error instead saying, DirectFB/fbdev/vt: KD_GRAPHICS failed! --> Operation not permitted
[06:25] <doug_> OmegaNine: you need to install a nvidia video card driver?
[06:25] <doug_> Carbonflux: np just wanted take it offtopic for a min.
[06:26] <Tm_T> JeffATL: you don't need to install vesa driver, it's somewhat "failsafe standard" driver
[06:26] <iceolate> hello.. can someone help me with what seems like a simple problem? getting my keyboards volume control knob to control the system volume?
[06:26] <usser> frogscott, how about umount /dev/dvd
[06:26] <mistform> how do I see if I have USB2?
[06:26] <mistform> what do I type in terminal?
[06:26] <OmegaNine> doug_: It looks like it.  After the upgrade it wouldnt use the driver, so I am trying to uninstlal and reinstall the 3rd party driver
[06:27] <usser> mistform, how old is your computer?
[06:27] <doug_> mistform:  lsusb
[06:27] <mistform> dunno
[06:27] <Pord> is there a way to update to heron from gutsy without updating xorg or installing pulseaudio?
[06:27] <nickrud> iceolate try running xev from a terminal, then placing the mouse in the white box; turn the knob. Do you get output?
[06:27] <mistform> no SATA
[06:27] <doug_> OmegaNine: what os u running? and distro
[06:27] <ccaic> any one ,how can i change my current font color in xchat ?
[06:27] <frogscott> usser ;et me try thanks I also have this executable on my desktop: XPSP1a_ENG_PER
[06:27] <mistform> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:27] <mistform> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
[06:27] <mistform> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:27] <OmegaNine> Ubuntu 8.07
[06:28] <doug_> OmegaNine: u sure its not .04 ?
[06:28] <usser> frogscott, oh well cool, i guess right click on that icon and choose unmount
[06:28] <usser> frogscott, and proceed to the next step
[06:28] <doug_> OmegaNine: any ways at the top go to apps>add/remove
[06:28] <frogscott> ok usser
[06:28] <JeffATL> Tm_T: my xorg.conf looks so generic that it hardly seems usable - doesn't specify *any* driver
[06:28] <sc006> doug_, no prob
[06:28] <iceolate> nickrud: yeah, a graphical window pops up showing that i'm turning the volume. i ran alsamixer from the terminal and it shows i'm controlling the master volume of that.
[06:28] <usser> frogscott, actually we need to know your cdrom name
[06:28] <usser> frogscott, dont do 2nd step
[06:28] <mistform> ubuntu 6.09 i think
[06:28] <mistform> feisty
[06:29] <OmegaNine> doug_: Done
[06:29] <usser> frogscott, do ls /dev/cd* instead see if anything shows up
[06:29] <doug_> OmegaNine: then the top tab click all open source and thent ype in hardware and check the one that sayes
[06:29] <patifa> mistform, want to know if you have USB 2.0?  Run "lspci -v | grep HCI" in the terminal, put the output on the pastebin.
[06:29] <mistform> 6.07 is feisty? isk
[06:29] <drivetrax> conftest.c:53:26: error: minix/config.h: No such file or directory
[06:29] <usser> frogscott, is it external cdrom or something?
[06:29] <mistform> mist@mist-gigz:~$ lspci -v | grep HCI
[06:29] <mistform> 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
[06:29] <mistform> 00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 10) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
[06:29] <frogscott> no usser it is a cd/dvd on my pc
[06:29] <mistform> USB 1.1
[06:29] <FloodBot2> mistform: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <mistform> no 2 :(
[06:29] <duse|> How do i access my system settings(especially Display settings for my monitor) Via Fluxbox? (installed on xubuntu) ?
[06:29] <nickrud> iceolate but it's not changing the volume, even though alsa is showing doing so?
[06:29] <usser> frogscott, hm do ls /dev/cd*
[06:30] <frogscott> usser ok
[06:30] <andika_smg> semarang
[06:30] <doug_> OmegaNine: Nvidia binary X.org driver (new driver) then the Hardware Drivers but make sure u click the one sayes (new driver)
[06:30] <iceolate> nickrud: yes. when i look at my system volume it says Audigy 1 [SB0090] Alsa mixer
[06:30] <frogscott> usser root@scott-desktop:~# hm do ls /dev/cd*
[06:30] <frogscott> bash: hm: command not found
[06:30] <OmegaNine> doug_: K, give me a sec, going this over VNC
[06:31] <doug_> OmegaNine:  then open synaptics manager and type in envy and install envy.
[06:31] <mistform> alright, thanks guys
[06:31] <usser> frogscott, hm was just me going "hm" command is ls /dev/cd*
[06:31] <mistform> I'm trying to play with some crap
[06:31] <mistform> bluetooth
[06:31] <mistform> but I needed USB2
[06:31] <frogscott> lol ahahahaha
[06:31] <doug_> OmegaNine: let me know when you are done with the add/remove
[06:31] <patifa> mistform: you can try the same thing but replace the grep thing with grep "USB 2.0"
[06:31] <usser> frogscott, sorry :P
[06:31] <nickrud> iceolate I was going to try to get you to the point where the hardware makes alsa's master move up and down, you're already there and I don't know why that wouldn't change the volume
[06:31] <patifa> mistform, but don't paste it this time ;)
[06:31] <frogscott> root@scott-desktop:~# ls /dev/cd*
[06:31] <frogscott> /dev/cdrom1  /dev/cdrw1
[06:32] <andika_smg> semarang
[06:32] <Tm_T> JeffATL: heh, so prolly we should add one, hmmm
[06:32] <nickrud> andika_smg ??
[06:32] <iceolate> nickrud: someone pointed me to within gconf-editor and there was a default mixer, but i didn't know what to enter there
[06:32] <andika_smg> semarang
[06:32] <OmegaNine> doug_: Nvidia binary X.org driver is not showing up at all.  I get NVIDIA X Server Settings
[06:32] <binarymutant> how can I get a text based browser to display images while in X? directfb didn't work
[06:32] <iceolate> let me try to find it again
[06:32] <usser> frogscott, ah i see so do dd if=/dev/cdrom1 of=~/xp.iso
[06:32] <JeffATL> Tm_T: well, what happened to this whole installation process that handled that?
[06:32] <OmegaNine> doug_ take that back
[06:32] <frogscott> usser ok
[06:32] <duse|> binarydigit, there was one called something starting with D... ditto?
[06:33] <doug_> OmegaNine:  u found the driver ( new drier) one?
[06:33] <usser> frogscott, thats gonna create an iso file on your desktop, an exact copy of the cd
[06:33] <patifa> binarydigit, what is it supposed to do, turn the images into ascii art?
[06:33] <nickrud> iceolate you can change that with right click the volume control on the panel; the top button is a drop down you can change
[06:33] <iceolate> nickrud: apps>desktop>gnome>sound
[06:33] <OmegaNine> doug_ yes I did, its installing now
[06:33] <patifa> usser: in his home folder, not the desktop
[06:33] <nickrud> iceolate same thing
[06:34] <doug_> OmegaNine: once done click on the first hardware one u see.
[06:34] <Tm_T> JeffATL: we now rely on "automagic" which works well in great majority of cases
[06:34] <usser> patifa, frogscott right my bad in your home folder not the desktop
[06:34] <doug_> OmegaNine: going down from the top of the list.
[06:34] <iceolate> nickrud preferences from the volume control at the panel?
[06:34] <Tm_T> JeffATL: new Xorg which does things just tad bit better
[06:34] <nickrud> iceolate yes,
[06:34] <pschulz01> Greetings.. what is the default desktop manager (Ubuntu). I did an upgrade and would like to get the 3d effects working, but the Window decorations disappear when I turn them on.
[06:34] <binarymutant> patifa well links2 can display images, but I wanted it to be in the confines of a terminal instead of a new window
[06:35] <frogscott> usser seems to be doing something good job
[06:35] <doug_> OmegaNine: it should be the third one down
[06:35] <iceolate>  nickrud i think i tried that before and i switched to every device it had available and the volume knob doesn't respond
[06:35] <nickrud> pschulz01 try alt-f2  gtk-window-decorator --replace , see if you get the missing borders
[06:35] <usser> frogscott, its gonna take some time 5 to 10 minutes usually
[06:35] <virtuald> pschulz01: the default window manager with i think you meant is metacity
[06:35] <nickrud> iceolate you said that alsamixer follows the knob, right?
[06:35] <iceolate> nickrud it's possible that maybe my keyboard is not recognized, i don't know
[06:35] <iceolate> nickrud yeah
[06:35] <chelz> i modified /etc/hosts, how do i get the changes to take effect without logging out/in or restarting?
[06:36] <patifa> usser: also the GUI programs provide lots of feedback ;)
[06:36] <frogscott> great if I can get my Wincrap software to work I will kiss you
[06:36] <doug_> OmegaNine:  then there is another one as well install that one too.
[06:36] <nickrud> iceolate then it's recognized, and correctly configured. Why alsa isn't changing the sound volume is another question
[06:36] <quicksilver_> Hello out there. Is it a commonly known issue to have smooth scrolling kick my computers ass (quad-core, lots of ram) in ubuntu 8.04 under firefox 3 beta 5? It used to work find under FF 2.0.0.12...
[06:36] <sc006> doug_, not so easy ehh lol
[06:36] <usser> patifa, which no one reads anyway :P
[06:36] <OmegaNine> doug_:  You lost me, what hardware am I clicking on?
[06:36] <doug_> sc006: actually yes it is keep watching.
[06:37] <doug_> OmegaNine:  the only ones that say *hardware drivers*
[06:37] <iceolate> nickrud the output at the top of the alsamixer screen says CARD NVIDIA Ck804 CHIP Realtek ALC850 rv0
[06:37] <quicksilver_> It basically takes 2/4 of my processors to near 100%, and my disk usage goes nuts when I use smooth scrolling.
[06:37] <sc006> doug_, ive used envy before
[06:37] <patifa> quicksilver_, yeah, lots of people are having Firefox 3 beta 5 doing weird stuff in Ubuntu 8.04
[06:37] <quicksilver_> Ok, just making sure.
[06:37] <OmegaNine> doug_: Oh OK yeah its install already, reinstall it?
[06:37] <JeffATL> Tm_T: ok, Xorg -configure gave me nothing useful
[06:37] <iceolate> nickrud now if i'm not mistaken, realtek was my onboard which i disabled in bios, and my soundcard is creative audigy so i'm sort of confused
[06:37] <quicksilver_> But if it helps anybody in the future... Turning off smooth scrolling helped solve my problem.
[06:37] <patifa> I remember a critical marked bug about Firefox and disk thrashing + 100% usage
[06:37] <doug_> sc006:  then it is easy well to me anyways beats configuring xorg.conf
[06:37] <doug_> OmegaNine: then close that and open synaptic manager.
[06:38] <binarymutant> how can I use directfb in gnome-terminal?
[06:38] <nickrud> iceolate ah, different issue. Alsa isn't using the correct sound card. you should check in at #alsa for help in configuring it to use the audigy
[06:38] <doug_> OmegaNine: once in synaptic type in envy and install those.
[06:38] <iceolate> nickrud okay
[06:38] <iceolate> brb
[06:38] <quicksilver_> Cool though. Thanks everybody... I didnt see anything handy when I googled ubuntu 8.04 firefox issues.. So at least it can be known in here. :)
[06:38] <duse|> How do i access display settings to change my resolution, etc from the TERMINAL?
[06:38] <nickrud> binarydigit directfb is for the console, not inside X
[06:39] <chillex> hello
[06:39] <binarymutant> nickrud is there anyway to display images inside gnome-terminal?
[06:39] <JeffATL> Tm_T: so how is this "automagic" invoked?
[06:39] <OmegaNine> doug_:  Envy24?  (Says its a sound mixer)
[06:39] <sc006> doug_, no doubt on that, my vid card didn't like the stable drivers I had to install beta
[06:39] <doug_> OmegaNine: no not 24
[06:39] <nickrud> binarymutant sure, eog <imagefile>
[06:39] <binarymutant> nickrud :(
[06:39] <pschulz> That didn;t work.. this is with nvidia
[06:39] <iceolate> haha i don't think anyone's home at #alsa
[06:40] <nickrud> binarymutant hahaha. But seriously, why would you want to put it inside the terminal?
[06:40] <t00na> ping
[06:40] <notsniw> hrm ubottu doesnt answer: ive got problems connecting to security.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <nickrud> iceolate one of these days' I'm gonna spend a year learning alsa :)
[06:40] <duse|> How do i access display settings to change my resolution, etc from the TERMINAL?
[06:40] <t00na> that works
[06:40] <marupa> Anyone know mplayer at all?
[06:40] <binarymutant> nickrud I'm running surfraw and links2 instead of firefox and I wanted images
[06:40] <notsniw> marupa: yes
[06:40] <doug_> OmegaNine: envy-core envy-gtk envyng-gt envyng-gtk
[06:40] <iceolate> nickrud i could spend 2 years and wouldn't learn half of ubuntu
[06:40] <iceolate> sigh
[06:41] <marupa> notsniw, what woulc cause some videos to have audio and some not to have audio, if the files all have audio in VLC?
[06:41] <OmegaNine> doug_: K k they are downloadning now.
[06:41] <nickrud> binarydigit iirc you can configure link2 to use eog to display images
[06:41] <iceolate> nickrud and i've been using it for about 2 or 3 years
[06:41] <doug_> sc006: i had to do it with my laptop i had and on feisty
[06:41] <OmegaNine> doug_: I got to say, as a Fedora user, i heard Ubuntu was more user friendly...This is kinda insane.
[06:41] <spacejunk> Hi binarydigit
[06:41] <frogscott> usser 1094024+0 records in 1094024+0 records out 560140288 bytes (560 MB) copied, 118.449 s, 4.7 MB/s
[06:41] <nickrud> iceolate I've been using debian/debian based for over 7, and I pick my battles now. Too many wounds ;)
[06:41] <notsniw> marupa: try starting mplayer from the console and read what it says. maybe a lack of codecs for example
[06:41] <binarymutant> nickrud I'll try that ty :)
[06:41] <sc006> doug_, it a pain when they update the kernal
[06:42] <usser> frogscott, looks like its done
[06:42] <marupa> notsniw, it says it loaded the codec.
[06:42] <usser> frogscott, open up virtualbox
[06:42] <frogscott> ok where is iso at?
[06:42] <frogscott> its not on desktop
[06:42] <usser> frogscott, its in your home folder
[06:42] <notsniw> marupa: AUDIO-codec? or video or both?
[06:42] <patifa> frogscott, Places > yourusernmae
[06:42] <marupa> notsniw, both
[06:42] <doug_> OmegaNine: it is more user friendly and its that they have not made the nvidia driver auto install its alot easyer then typing the stuff in . been there done that.
[06:42] <nickrud> binarymutant you might like to use qiv for images, it's much faster
[06:42] <patifa> err, Places > Home Folder
[06:42] <Tm_T> JeffATL: sorry, but I don't know
[06:42] <iceolate> nickrud you wouldn't know why my nvidia-settings won't recognize my TV would you?
[06:42] <notsniw> marupa: maybe your volume is down? :P hit * :)
[06:42] <marupa> notsniw, Nope, tried that.
[06:43] <nickrud> iceolate nope. I use ati, and as generically as possible
[06:43] <doug_> sc006:  no kidding . when they do trust me i will be back here lol asking how to fix it  since its been 3 yrs since i last done that.
[06:43] <notsniw> hm then i dont know, sorry.. maybe try the mplayer-chan
[06:43] <iceolate> nickrud i set it up and the TV will switch on but my monitor'll black out.
[06:43] <binarymutant> nickrud I was just thinking about feh but I'll check out qiv
[06:43] <IanClark> usser: are you helping frogscott to get his drive recognized?
[06:43] <iceolate> hm
[06:43] <JeffATL> Tm_T: am noting http://www.beijinglug.org/en/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=66&func=view&id=2334&catid=3
[06:43] <notsniw> but has anyone else trouble connecting to security.ubuntu.com?
[06:43] <usser> IanClark, no he just wants to install xp in virtualbox
[06:43] <frogscott> usser virtual box open
[06:44] <doug_> OmegaNine: let me know when its done.
[06:44] <marupa> notsniw, it's laggy, but it connects.
[06:44] <usser> frogscott, nice click on new and follow the guidelines
[06:44] <notsniw> marupa: i get a ping, but no apt-connection at all
[06:44] <usser> frogscott, os type is xp name is anything u want
[06:44] <marupa> notsniw, mine took over 2 minutes to resolve.
[06:44] <notsniw> doah
[06:45] <OmegaNine> doug_: I guess CLI makes more sense to me.  it was "yum install nvidia" and it was working hehe.
[06:45] <OmegaNine> doug_: Yeah its done installing
[06:45] <doug_> sc006:  after 7 installs of hardy and gutsy i finally learned how to do the nvidia drivers lol
[06:45] <usser> frogscott, memory size should be about 0.3 to 0.5 of your physical memory
[06:45] <patifa> doug_, wow
[06:45] <patifa> The binary drivers are NOT friendly, not by a long shot, that's for sure.
[06:45] <doug_> OmegaNine: then open apps>system>envy
[06:45] <frogscott> usser I am leaving at default and expandable Virtual box has it set properly I think
[06:45] <marupa> notsniw, audio codec loaded: Selected audio codec: [a52] afm: liba52 (AC3-liba52)
[06:45] <usser> frogscott, if u have 1Gb set it to something like 384 or 512
[06:45] <frogscott> usser ok
[06:46] <doug_> OmegaNine: when it pops up click on the nvidia choice to install on the far right.
[06:46] <doug_> OmegaNine: then check the one sayes install auto and hit ok
[06:46] <patifa> frogscott, make sure the virtual hard drive is big enough for XP, it takes at least 2-4 GB just for XP to install, more with Service Pack 2.
[06:46] <usser> frogscott, didnt quite get your last phrase?
[06:46] <frogscott> 512  MB usser?
[06:46] <usser> frogscott, 512 for memory yes
[06:46] <sc006> doug_, envy is a good program it works well, i break stuff all the time but hey thats how your learn
[06:46] <frogscott> it is more than big enough patifa it is dynamically expanding
[06:47] <usser> frogscott, then theres hard disk
[06:47] <nickrud> binarymutant try links2 -driver x , I either forgot or never knew about that option
[06:47] <iceolate> i was told to use envy to get my dual monitors working
[06:47] <iceolate> it helped a little :)
[06:47] <usser> frogscott, click on new, and give it at least 10Gb
[06:47] <doug_> sc006:  lol yea i love twinking with stuff. those 7 installs was me crashing something i shouldnt lol.
[06:47] <binarymutant> nickrud yeah but it just looks better inside a terminal :)
[06:47] <xim> does the compiz on hardy come with the 3dwindows plugin?
[06:48] <OmegaNine> doug_: Its doin it thing...Downloading packages, let you know when its done.
[06:48]  * Marfi is drunk, and going to try to helpz
[06:48] <iceolate> k. just wanted to make sure envy didn't break my ability to play neverwinter nights
[06:48] <sc006> iceolate, if ubuntu detects it use the ubuntu, envy if else fails
[06:48] <IanClark> oh.  Do you have any suggestions about getting Ubuntu to see my LG GCC-4521B CD-RW/DVD-ROM Drive
[06:48] <frogscott> it is new but based on ISO I dont get that? so the OS is not determining the Virtual Box then usser?
[06:48] <doug_> OmegaNine: ok
[06:48] <marupa> notsniw, Any ideas?
[06:48] <iceolate> sc006 i get crazy errors :(
[06:48] <iceolate> sc006 i can re-create and say what they are...
[06:48] <sc006> iceolate, like what
[06:49] <iceolate> sc006 one moment
[06:49] <IanClark> Hardy Heron here.  Actually, XP doesn't really see it, either.  I can play DVD's, but I can't get a blank disk icon to come up when I insert a blank disk.
[06:49] <doug_> iceolate: read everything by me to OmegaNine it will run u through the steps on how to install the nvidia driver.
[06:49] <usser> frogscott, huh? no iso file is going to become your cdrom from which u going to install xp
[06:49] <notsniw> marupa: not really, sorry. as i said ask go to the official mplayer-irc-chan and ask there
[06:49] <notsniw> -ask
[06:49] <marupa> notsniw, They're dead.
[06:49] <iceolate> doug_ how can i filter out everything but your conversation?
[06:50] <frogscott> Ok usser now I am on it seems to be done
[06:50] <doug_> sc006:  i prefer to do almost everything by terminal but to be easy on him i was doing the gui
[06:50] <usser> frogscott, did u click finish?
[06:50] <iceolate> doug_ i had envy reinstall my nvidia driver, it's teh configuration that's giving me probs
[06:50] <Filled-Void> Any idea why my Keyboard would just randomly freeze in hardy :x . I can work with my mouse at the same time without a problem. And its just a ergular ps2 keyboard.
[06:50] <doug_> iceolate: no idea on that just scroll up i guess.
[06:50] <ocyrus> how do i boot ubuntu livecd with the expert option available?
[06:50] <usser> frogscott, do u see the main virtualbox window with properties of the machine u just created?
[06:50] <ocyrus> having some issue with Ubuntu detecting my cd rom
[06:50] <drivetrax> wull lemme tell ya.. it was difficult to get the egg made.. it really was
[06:50] <doug_> iceolate: meet me in room #wwwed ill run u through
[06:51] <frogscott> usser yes now I hit start and it is asking select installation media
[06:51] <kelvin911> hey after upgrading to hardy my pdf viewer doesnt work
[06:51] <usser> frogscott, dont click start yet
[06:51] <kelvin911> it just freezes
[06:51] <doug_> OmegaNine:  let me know when your done.
[06:51] <drivetrax> but, I got it.. and it is live
[06:51] <frogscott> why not? usser
[06:51] <usser> frogscott, in the main window on the right click cdrom
[06:51] <OmegaNine> doug_: Just got done, it wants me to reboot his system
[06:51] <frogscott> ah ok
[06:51] <doug_> OmegaNine:  not yet
[06:51] <usser> frogscott, CD\DVD ROM rather
[06:51] <OmegaNine> doug_:  O
[06:51] <OmegaNine> k
[06:52] <patifa> usser, left click, right click will just present a copy text thingy
[06:52] <frogscott> usser what? the thing finished
[06:52] <doug_> OmegaNine:  now go to system > programs >screen resalution
[06:52] <ocyrus> whats the syntax for adding expert to the boot option of the ubuntu livecd
[06:52] <usser> frogscott, put a checkbox in mount cd rom
[06:52] <doug_> OmegaNine: pick the one you want then reboot.
[06:52] <drivetrax> two things I can do.. in ubuntu.. make an egg, and use unetbootin
[06:52] <usser> frogscott, then mount iso image
[06:52] <kelvin911> hello?
[06:52] <doug_> iceolate:  click >#wwwed
[06:52] <usser> frogscott, choose ISO image file
[06:52] <drivetrax> hey
[06:52] <frogscott> ah usser darn it it is created
[06:52] <usser> frogscott, what is created?
[06:52] <kelvin911> Evince Document viewer freezes
[06:53] <OmegaNine> hehe I have 640x480 and 800x600
[06:53] <usser> frogscott, i dont understand?
[06:53] <frogscott> usser Ubuntu XP1
[06:53] <OmegaNine> doug_ hehe I have 640x480 and 800x600
[06:53] <patifa> woah woah frogscott, you just 'created' a virtual machine.  You haven't installed any operating system on it yet.
[06:53] <doug_> OmegaNine: ah ok lol so it being a but on u yea go head reboot then and let me know when your back.
[06:53] <drivetrax> that's a pdf viewer?
[06:53] <OmegaNine> doug_: OK
[06:53] <OmegaNine> doug_: It will be a sec before I can get back in the system, he went to grab food while I was working
[06:53] <usser> frogscott, did u put it there?
[06:53] <patifa> frogscott,  The 'type' you picked at the begging was just to help VirtualBox select the right options.
[06:53] <frogscott> usser I now need to go and select to mount the cd rom ok going to that
[06:53] <doug_> sc006: for some reason i didnt have to reboot after that.
[06:54] <kelvin911> after upgrading to hardy, Evince Document viewer stops working
[06:54] <doug_> OmegaNine: thats fine.
[06:54] <frogscott> Usser patifa I am o mount selected for cdrom now I choose iso?
[06:54] <patifa> yeah frogscott
[06:55] <frogscott> um usser patifa I am in .virtual box folder no iso there
[06:55] <usser> frogscott, its in your home folder
[06:56] <frogscott> would it be xp iso? usser
[06:56] <drivetrax> kelvin911,  did you uninstall Evince.. and re-install it?
[06:56] <usser> frogscott, yea
[06:57] <frogscott> there is no home iso image only /home/scott has an xp.iso
[06:57] <frogscott> usser ok using that
[06:57] <patifa> frogscott, that's it
[06:57] <usser> frogscott, if thats the name u specified when doing dd of=~/xp.iso
[06:57] <usser> frogscott, ^
[06:57] <zishahu> hello
[06:57] <frogscott> yes now i hit ok?
[06:57] <drivetrax> kelvin911,  what is the type of file.. a pdf?
[06:57] <frogscott> usser i hit ok and so now I hit start?
[06:58] <usser> frogscott, is it selected in that little box
[06:58] <patifa> frogscott, yeah.  Then check the main window that your virtual machine's CD/DVD-ROM has 'xp.iso' listed below it.
[06:58] <sc006> doug_,  You to restart the xserver
[06:58] <zishahu> 你好
[06:58] <frogscott> yes it is all locked and loaded and going to do start now
[06:58] <doug_> sc006:  no i rebooted.
[06:58] <o0Chris0o> does ubuntu support gdesklet and screenlets? i don't see it in add/remove
[06:58] <usser> frogscott, try it
[06:58] <duse|> how do i set the default system font size now? the resolution is good (my screen isnt fuzzy) but font size shud be smaller?
[06:58] <dhr> on 8.04 AMD64, I want to run Java in firefox.  On a web page with JAVA, firefox tells me I need a plugin, I say "go ahead", it installs it, still no JAVA.  I actually tried both plugins offered.
[06:58] <doug_> frogscott: not rly u need to hit settings first
[06:59] <patifa> o0Chris0o, they aren't "supported" you'll have to get them out of the synaptic package manager
[06:59] <sc006> doug_, yea your right know that I think about it
[06:59] <frogscott> doug u dont know where I am...it didnt work usser
[06:59] <o0Chris0o> ahhh
[06:59] <drivetrax> dhr,  Java just released an upgrade
[06:59] <o0Chris0o> so not supported means not good?
[06:59] <patifa> o0Chris0o, no it just means it's not being maintained by Ubuntu community, but by whomever writes screenlets, for example.
[06:59] <usser> frogscott, are u sure that cdrom u made an iso of is bootable, did u ever try to boot from it?
[06:59] <frogscott> doug usser friends I am now looking at settings so now what doug?
[06:59] <doug_> frogscott:  lol yea uh i can read u hit settings then click on left sdie for cd/dvd and check the box other wise your cd/dvd drive wont be mounted in xp.
[06:59] <o0Chris0o> I see
[06:59] <Lapinux> can someone tell me what i need to do to set up local mail?
[07:00] <dhr> when I start ff from a console and go to a java test page, logging appears on the console.  Not good.  Part says "Java Runtime Environment is not working on your system" in HTML, meant for console.  But it didn't get there.
[07:00] <drivetrax> djhr - the java runtime needs updating
[07:00] <dhr> drivetrax: is java update in some testing place?
[07:00] <drivetrax> dhr,  - update java runtime
[07:01] <frogscott> doug usser that was done previously
[07:01] <doug_> sc006:  the funny thing is i didnt have to reboot the whole comp. to pick the settings.
[07:01] <thebitguru> Hi, is there a way to change the labels from the default "Applications, Places, and System" menu in the main task bar?  It is taking up way too much space
[07:01] <patifa> usser, you want to lead frogscott?  I feel like I'm going to mess up steps if I speak up on the matter.
[07:01] <frogscott> it is set as mounted to cd/dvd and the iso is selected
[07:01] <drivetrax> dhr,  - go to sun microsystems..
[07:01] <frogscott> and I already ran it that way and it doesnt work and yes it is bootable cd
[07:02] <kuahara> this drive is really pissing me off
[07:02] <usser> frogscott, i dont know, pop in the cd and in that same cd\dvd rom check mount physical drive
[07:02] <volk> Ubuntu developers should really pay greater attention when releasing new kernel updates. Every time a new update comes, something stops working..
[07:02] <usser> frogscott, host cd\dvd drive sorry
[07:02] <duse|> how do i set the default system font size now? the resolution is good (my screen isnt fuzzy) but font size shud be smaller?
[07:03] <kuahara> Windows XP Professional - Setup was unable to format the partition. This disk may be damaged (its not).
[07:03] <dhr> drivetrax: no ubuntu packaging yet?  I'm acting like an ignorant user -- I never got anything from Sun so it seems wrong to get an update from them.
[07:03] <doug_> thebitguru: yes
[07:03] <marupa> duse|, system->preferences-
[07:03] <kuahara> From another drive, I can point at this drive and format it.  I just did 10 minutes ago.  Windows setup can not.
[07:03] <marupa> appearance
[07:03] <patifa> usser, is his hard drive set up properly?
[07:03] <doug_> thebitguru: there is a way you can
[07:03] <drivetrax> dhr,  synaptic got Java there?
[07:03] <kuahara> wtf
[07:03] <usser> patifa, i dont know
[07:03] <frogscott> uh usser my virtual box we created is powered off so? does it need ot be powered on?
[07:03] <thebitguru> doug_: can you please give me some info?
[07:04] <usser> frogscott, no change the cd\dvd rom setting to host cd\dvd and then power on
[07:04] <doug_> thebitguru: i was actually about to see my self ok right click on system edit menu
[07:04] <kuahara> zcat are you still around
[07:04] <dhr> drivetrax: I don't know where java came from.  Probably when I said "yes" to firefox plugin installation offer.
[07:04] <frogscott> um whjere is that menu? man this is rediculous
[07:05] <drivetrax> dhr -- it is part of installing linus
[07:05] <kuahara> <---willing to pay someone, anyone for help with this
[07:05] <doug_> thebitguru:  then click on applications on the far left then click new menu then name it
[07:05] <patifa> kuahara, I'll try to help, though I don't need your money.
[07:05] <usser> frogscott, main virtualbox windows on the right
[07:05] <marupa> kuahara, what was the issue?
[07:05] <skurakai> ﻿i have problem with official ATI driver for unix. If i start game (eg. SuperTuxKart) all is very slow and on screen blink black line. I try first method on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide . Can you help me?
[07:05] <drivetrax> dhr - but you need a new runtime for java, and it just updated me in XP a day ago
[07:05] <frogscott> I got it now how to power on?
[07:05] <usser> frogscott, click on cd\dvd-rom, its the same menu where u changed iso
[07:05] <usser> frogscott, yea try it
[07:05] <pschulz01> I am trying ot connect to an smb drive and keep getting 'smb:..' unknown file type, in nautilus
[07:05] <ccaic> can i use vmware in linux ?
[07:05] <pschulz01> This is an upgrade.
[07:06] <kuahara> zcat helped me recreate a ntfs partition earlier in ubuntu.  All of my data is there.  The problem is, on a different partition, I need to install Windows XP and access that data from the windows console
[07:06] <usser> frogscott, just tell me exactly what it says
[07:06] <doug_> thebitguru: nvm wait a min i know there is i done it whole ago let me tinker with it.
[07:06] <frogscott> arGHGHGHGH CHarlie Borwn ok
[07:06] <thebitguru> doug_: but I don't need to create new entries.  I would like to trim the labels :-/
[07:06] <usser> ccaic, sure its a bit quirky on hardy though at the moment
[07:06] <kuahara> I attached a secondary hard drive to my comp, this one has windows on it already.  When I attempt to explore/browse the other drive (the one where this partition is), it gives me access denied errors
[07:06] <frogscott> the floppy disk is not mounted oh no
[07:06] <patifa> kuahara, so let me get this straight.  All your data is on an NTFS partition, and you want to install XP onto another partition and access data from the original NTFS partition?
[07:07] <usser> frogscott, thats alright
[07:07] <kuahara> I also can not install windows on the partition of the original drive because windows can't format it and thinks the disk is damaged
[07:07] <ccaic> which virtual software is faster? and the best choice?
[07:07] <kuahara> correct patifa
[07:07] <frogscott> lol ubuntu xp1 powered off
[07:07] <frogscott> I know its alright
[07:07] <tiksan> hello
[07:07] <usser> frogscott, it just powers off?
[07:07] <frogscott> its godo to go man I need to hit start I think
[07:07] <usser> frogscott, on itself?
[07:07] <kuahara> this morning before I decided to remove XP x64, I was able to access this secondary partition where all my data is backed up just fine
[07:08] <frogscott> how do u frigign power it on to begin with usser?
[07:08] <dhr> drivetrax: my update thingee just now said that there are 44 updates (I asked synaptic to "reload").  None of the updates appear to be java-related.
[07:08] <doug_> thebitguru: ok right click ont he apps system and hit delete from panal
[07:08] <frogscott> hit start
[07:08] <kuahara> I removed XP x64 in order to install the 32 bit version of XP back on that partition
[07:08] <usser> frogscott, press start yes
[07:08] <doug_> thebitguru: then right click and click add to panal
[07:08] <patifa> kuahara what's running right now?
[07:08] <kuahara> the trouble came in when I popped in the windows disk, ran windows setup, selected the partition XP x64 was on, deleted it, then went to go reformat it for xp 32bit
[07:08] <doug_> thebitguru: then look for main menu add to panel
[07:08] <thebitguru> doug_: ah, nice :)
[07:08] <drivetrax> dhr,  well... get java.. runtime, don't just let ubuntu choose
[07:08] <kuahara> however, something very very strange happened when I deleted the XP x64 partition
[07:08] <thebitguru> that's exactly what I was looking for
[07:08] <thebitguru> doug_: thanks!
[07:08] <usser> ccaic, kvm would probably be the fastest on linux, its not trivial to setup though, virtualbox is easiest to setup and vmware is proprietary with business support
[07:09] <kuahara> it was 127ish GB before I deleted it
[07:09] <kuahara> it was 8MB after
[07:09] <doug_> thebitguru: im actually goin to do that to mine now as well lol
[07:09] <frogscott> usser yeah! : VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..
[07:09] <kelvin911> terminal freezes
[07:09] <kelvin911> volume freezes
[07:09] <usser> frogscott, oh man lol
[07:09] <kelvin911> what is that?
[07:09] <xim> is it normal for beagled-helper to be using lots of processor all the time
[07:09] <kuahara> after zcat helped me, the partitions are the correct size again, but they can not be formatted
[07:09] <frogscott> synaptic package manager?
[07:09] <thebitguru> doug_: :)  I am running on a tablet with 1024x768 and that was taking way too much space :)
[07:09] <patifa> usser, dang that sucks
[07:09] <frogscott> istall it?
[07:09] <kuahara> windows setup tells me the disk is damaged if I try to format
[07:09] <usser> frogscott, do that sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-modules-generic
[07:09] <kuahara> its not damaged.  The partition table is probably all jacked up
[07:10] <kuahara> Ubuntu can read the partitions just fine though
[07:10] <frogscott> this sucks u people are so smart we need 50 to screw in a bulb but man what bulb
[07:10] <usser> frogscott, thats gotta fix it
[07:10] <doug_> thebitguru: lol same here. i just never rly botherd with messing with it
[07:10] <frogscott> lol just kidding thanks alot
[07:10] <usser> frogscott, restart virtualbox after it finishes
[07:10] <kuahara> only the microsoft OS's can not
[07:10] <ccaic> usser ,i c ,thx..
[07:10] <dmibnmg> Morning!
[07:10] <kuahara> how do I fix this
[07:10] <doug_> sc006: have u seen OmegaNine is he still here or did he reboot yet?
[07:11] <frogscott> usser ok im on it will let u know in a sec
[07:11] <usser> ccaic, given a choice i'd go with virtualbox speedwise it beats vmware but slower than kvm
[07:11] <david__--> hello,I have a simple question,I just downloaded the Firefox 3 beta 5 version and was wondering if someone could guide me to make a shortcut to it on desktop and main menu also making it so that it updates auto
[07:11] <patifa> kuahara, I got a few ideas on this.  But I worry a partition repair might damage useful partitions.
[07:11] <Sturmeh> kuahara you need windows to read linux parititions?
[07:11] <dhr> drivetrax: thanks for your help.  I'm not willing to damage things installed via .debs by replacing them without a .deb
[07:12] <kuahara> sturmeh, no.  Please reread everything I said
[07:12] <doug_> david__--: i can help you
[07:12] <Sturmeh> haven't been here kuahara
[07:12] <frogscott> ya boy loading usser
[07:12] <patifa> Sturmeh, Windows installer refuses to recognize HD, Ubuntu reads it.  Need a partition repair from Ubuntu.
[07:12] <david__--> doug_thank you
[07:12] <doug_> david__--: click on the desktop right click and hit create launcher
[07:12] <usser> frogscott, ok let it finish
[07:12] <patifa> or, rather, Sturmeh, it can't create a partition for installing windows due to unspecified partition errors
[07:12] <kuahara> windows sees the partitions and their sizes
[07:12] <kuahara> but it can not format them
[07:12] <frogscott> ding ding..restart time
[07:12] <Sturmeh> i c
[07:12] <maxwell888> My mouse gets stuck and I have to reboot to get it to work again.  I am using Gutsy.  Error message I see in the logs is USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd hald-addon-usb-
[07:12] <doug_> david__--:  then name it firefox then put this in the command firefox %u
[07:13] <Sturmeh> kuahara, and you want to format them or just fix them?
[07:13] <usser> frogscott, restart virtualbox not the whole system
[07:13] <fxj1> night all.
[07:13] <ccaic> usser,  O?  kvm is the best?
[07:13] <patifa> kuahara, load up gparted in Ubuntu, if you could
[07:13] <david__--> doug_:ok,is that all?
[07:13] <kuahara> I'll explain what I want.  What I want might not be possible, but I will settle for a completely formatted HDD that is repartitionable
[07:13] <usser> ccaic, in terms of speed yes
[07:13] <frogscott> usser ahah ahah ha hhah hah h oh man
[07:13] <doug_> david__--: for the browser on the desktop yes.
[07:13] <frogscott> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[07:14] <kuahara> I want a 30GB partition formatted to install Ubuntu on
[07:14] <usser> frogscott, right that was expected
[07:14] <drivetrax> dhr -- synaptic > choose Origins... select multiverse websites
[07:14] <kuahara> I want a 90ish GB partition to install 32bit windows xp pro on
[07:14] <drivetrax> dhr -- filename is JRExxxx
[07:14] <dmibnmg> After installing my Ubuntu 64 Server,, everything work fine, until after a reboot my machine complains that my image is not initramfs, considers it to be initrd and stops after that - Any hints highly welcome...
[07:14] <kuahara> and I want the existing 130GB partition with all my data backups on it to be left alone and accessible by windows xp
[07:14] <doug_> david__--: click on it and does it pop up?
[07:14] <usser> frogscott, do that sudo gpasswd -a `whoami` vboxusers
[07:14] <ccaic> usser,  but for other aspect?
[07:14] <kelvin911> hey anyone got problem using hardy?
[07:14] <usser> frogscott, after that log out and log back in
[07:14] <kelvin911> program randomly crashes
[07:14] <drivetrax> dhr -- to be exact .. filename is j2re1.4
[07:14] <david__--> doug_:yes,but as version 2 still
[07:15] <dhr> drivetrax: thanks!  I'll look at that when update manager has stopped.
[07:15] <doug_> kelvin911: hardy is a 100% stable should not rly have any probs.
[07:15] <kuahara> now, if I have to forego that and lose all my wife's pics/videos etc... of our 15 month old daughter (which she is really upset about), I will settle for putting my hdd back to a point where I can format the whole thing and recreate those partitions
[07:15] <usser> ccaic, its a pain in the * to install and configure
[07:15] <kuahara> as of right now, Ubuntu can read the 130GB ntfs file storage partition
[07:15] <patifa> kuahara, got a LiveCD?
[07:15] <kuahara> and all the data on it
[07:15] <david__--> doug_:I can get to 3 by typing in terminal  ~/firefox/firefox
[07:15] <kuahara> patifa yes
[07:15] <kuahara> I just popped it in and chose to install ubuntu
[07:15] <doug_> david__--: oh then hmm try removing the 2.0
[07:15] <patifa> kuahara, is it the same computer which you're using for IRC?
[07:15] <usser> ccaic, you'd spend alot of time for a little speed gain
[07:15] <kuahara> I want to see if it is going to give me the option to format or create a new partition where XP x64 is
[07:16] <kuahara> no
[07:16] <kuahara> I am on the laptop in irc atm
[07:16] <david__--> doug_:how do i do that? im new to linux :)
[07:16] <Ashvala> ~seen
[07:16] <patifa> kuahara, great, start the LiveCD on the target computer in the "Try Ubuntu" graphical mode.
[07:16] <frogscott> usser root@scott-desktop:~# sudo gpasswrd -a `whoami` vboxusers sudo: gpasswrd: command not found
[07:16] <david__--> doug_:Ive only had it for a few weeks so far
[07:16] <patifa> 8.04 is preferred, though 7.10 would probably work
[07:16] <drivetrax> kuahara,  please get the data off the 130 gig partition
[07:16] <ccaic> orz...  in fact ,i  just want to a little thing on win...
[07:16] <kelvin911> now my terminal doest work
[07:16] <doug_> david__--: im trying to get 3.0 out and install 2.0 im having the same probs u are but back wards lol
[07:16] <kelvin911> volume control freezes
[07:16] <kuahara> I already hit "install ubuntu".  DO you want me to reboot and try it without changing the comp?
[07:16] <ccaic> thanks a lot , i just go now ..
[07:16] <kelvin911> Evince Document viewer freezes
[07:16] <kuahara> drivetax, I can't
[07:17] <david__--> doug_:LOL
[07:17] <kelvin911> how to check what is wrong?
[07:17] <usser> frogscott, gpasswd
[07:17] <patifa> kuahara, not install, just the "Try ubntu w/o doing anything" mode
[07:17] <david__--> doug_:does 3 beta 5 have a lot of problems? everything has seemed ok to me so far
[07:17] <kuahara> k..sec
[07:17] <frogscott> lol I saw that ok done now log out of?
[07:17] <kuahara> need to see what its about to do rq before I reboot and do that
[07:17] <usser> frogscott, yep
[07:17] <patifa> kuahara, it's whatever the top-most option is in the LiveCD startup is.
[07:17] <doug_> david__--:  to me it freezes up alot i guess i kinda push ti to the edge.
[07:17] <frogscott> out of what?
[07:18] <Xcell> shut the fuck up already ah?
[07:18] <david__--> doug_:funny,2 did that to me,lol
[07:18] <doug_> david__--:  let me see if i can find you a guide to install 3 and get it running.
[07:18] <xim> what is beagled-helper? and is it normal for it to use 40-80 %CPU all the time?
[07:18] <david__--> doug_:ok thanks,ive found one,but the way it said did not work,it only brought up version 2 again
[07:18] <usser> frogscott, out of ubuntu, system->quit->logout
[07:18] <kuahara> patifa, I told it to install ubuntu before.  The gui for this is already loaded, although I haven't actually done an installation yet.  Should I reboot and select the try me option?
[07:19] <OmegaNine> doug_:  Rebooted, still have the same low res options
[07:19] <patifa> kuahara, yes
[07:19] <frogscott> ok
[07:19] <kuahara> or can I just cancel install and use the basic features
[07:19] <dmibnmg> After installing my Ubuntu 64 Server,, everything work fine, until after a reboot my machine complains that my image is not initramfs, considers it to be initrd and stops after that - Any hints highly welcome...
[07:19] <kindofabuzz> is emerald theme manager broke?
[07:19] <patifa> kuahara, you can try cancel, but I don't think it'll let you use the system if you hit cancel.
[07:19] <ccaic> usser,  what's the full name for kvx ? i just want to google and ..
[07:19] <doug_> david__--: what distro u have gutsy or hardy?
[07:19] <kuahara> rebooted
[07:19] <reaxion> o/ everyone
[07:19] <usser> ccaic, its just that kvm
[07:19] <doug_> OmegaNine: go to system > programs>sreen resolution
[07:19] <kuahara> its going to take about 5 minutes for the system to load all the data off the disk and start the trial version of the os
[07:19] <OmegaNine> doug_:  THere
[07:20] <usser> ccaic, or google for kernel virtual machine
[07:20] <david__--> doug_:gutsy for about 15 more minutes,updating now as we speak...its taken 3 hours so far
[07:20] <Jordan_U> dmibnmg, Can you boot into an older kernel?
[07:20] <patifa> usser, I really wish the package configuration for virtualbox OSE let you choose to add yourself to vbox users group.  Makes it a pain otherwise.
[07:20] <patifa> :\
[07:20] <patifa> kuahara, 5 minutes? :o
[07:20] <doug_> david__--:  try this http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/04/03/install-firefox-3-beta-5-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[07:20] <patifa> That disk has got to have some serious problems, then.
[07:20] <kuahara> maybe not that long
[07:20] <doug_> OmegaNine: did u reboot or just restart X ?
[07:20] <kuahara> its reading the whole disk and copying it into memory or something
[07:20] <reaxion> Does anyone know of any fixes to get Wine running on 8.04 64-bit?  I've run the fix from the Wine site for the first MB of memory, but Wine still won't open windows
[07:20] <OmegaNine> doug_: Reboot
[07:20] <kuahara> and it may have issues lol, I burned the cd with this laptop
[07:21] <kuahara> I question the integrity of this burner
[07:21] <drivetrax> kuahara,  if that trial version (live cd) can boot, then you might access the drive that way?
[07:21] <david__--> doug_:ok...another quick question,do you have gutsy or hardy and is hardy stable as of yet?
[07:21] <usser> patifa, yea that should've been done. really weird that its not there
[07:21] <doug_> OmegaNine:  meet me in room #wwed
[07:21] <doug_> davidyes and hardy
[07:21] <kuahara> drivetax, I already established that I have access to that partition from within ubuntu live
[07:21] <doug_> david yes and hardy
[07:21] <patifa> kuahara use the check CD options if you are having doubts.
[07:21] <david__--> doug_:ok,thanks bro
[07:21] <kuahara> this is the 2nd copy I burned
[07:22] <patifa> kuahara, yeah that brings up the important question: Could you back up all the useful stuff off the NTFS partition onto another drive and we can just wipe the whole drive and copy everything back?
[07:22] <kuahara> while I had xp x64 installed, I attempted to resize existing partitions with partition magic. Which I am really feeling caused all these problems
[07:22] <kuahara> patifa, not unless there is a way for ubuntu to copy all of that data onto another hdd that is ntfs formated with windows xp pro already installed on it
[07:23] <kuahara> a lot of it is already backed up on my shared hosting server
[07:23] <dhr> patifa: I'm not sure that this is relevant, but I just played with ntfsclone (part of ntfsprogs) today and was impressed.
[07:23] <kelvin911> i restarts my computer, everything works again
[07:23] <kuahara> I have 1.5TB of online storage, but my upload speed is like 75k/s
[07:23] <reaxion> Does anyone know of any fixes to get Wine running on 8.04 64-bit?  I've run the fix from the Wine site for the first MB of memory, but Wine still won't open windows
[07:23] <patifa> kuahara, how much spare HD space do you have that isn't part of the drive that has issues?
[07:24] <kuahara> on the ide drive in my wife's computer?  lemme check rq
[07:24] <kuahara> she has 35GB of free space
[07:24] <kuahara> there is 80GB of data on that hosed partition
[07:25] <kuahara> I don't need to keep a lot of it
[07:25] <kuahara> movies and music can all go away
[07:25] <kuahara> those can be redownloaded/ripped, etc...
[07:25] <drivetrax> kuahara,  can you boot XP?
[07:26] <patifa> kuahara, well let's back up all the important stuff (baby pics and whatnot) right now, using the livecd.
[07:26] <xim> reaxion?  Does wine have issues not work in hardy 64?  i was thinking of upgrading to hardy, im in gutsy 64 but i dont know what the issues would be
[07:26] <marupa> Wow, #mplayer is dead.  Anyone else have any experience with mplayer?
[07:26] <kuahara> am at a terminal in ubuntu atm
[07:26] <reaxion> xim, I've been told that 64-bit should have no problems
[07:26] <akhilesh> wassssssup !!
[07:26] <patifa> kuahara, no GUI?
[07:26] <reaxion> but I can't get it to run yet
[07:27] <kuahara> yes there's a gui lol
[07:27] <patifa> oh
[07:27] <patifa> k
[07:27] <maxwell888> I get this in my kern.log whenever my mouse freezes which is daily.  usb 2-6:  usbfs" USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd hald-addon-usb- rqt 192 rq 9 len 8 ret -110
[07:27] <xim> ah, ok
[07:27] <reaxion> well, most of it is running...  It's just not bringing up any windows
[07:27] <kuahara> when I select the 137GB media, it says that it can not mount it
[07:27] <kuahara> I am going to have to do a force mount at a command line
[07:27] <drivetrax> kuahara,  in a terminal.. can you see local disk
[07:27] <Ashvala> Windows Partition?
[07:27] <WarMX> hi there
[07:27] <kuahara> ntfs
[07:27] <vegombrei> kuahara: how does one force mount ?
[07:28] <WarMX> is anyone skilled in creating .deb files?
[07:28] <Ashvala> ok
[07:28] <Deepthought> anyone know the command to reinitiate metacity from the konsole (my menubars are missing and xauth is not running)
[07:28] <WarMX> i need help
[07:28] <Ashvala> do the following
[07:28] <exp_> bollocks
[07:28] <Flip2405> Iso help with sound
[07:28] <Ashvala> Nothing
[07:29] <exp_> anyone know of an app for mounting iso images that is not  Acetoneiso2
[07:29] <Flip2405> h00k did something earlyer
[07:29] <Flip2405> to fix it
[07:29] <Flip2405> but idk what he did
[07:29] <Flip2405> and it keeps malfunctioning
[07:29] <bazzieb> hi guys, just one question, will the ubuntu server edition always be command line based?
[07:29] <kuahara> patifa, you still here?
[07:29] <usser> !iso
[07:29] <patifa> kuahara, can you run fdisk on the drive to see what's in it?
[07:29] <reaxion> bazzieb, yes
[07:29] <bazzieb> cool thanks
[07:29] <kuahara> fdisk is giving me some weird options
[07:29] <reaxion> no probs
[07:30] <usser> exp_, sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>
[07:30] <reaxion> you can xwindow it up though
[07:30] <kuahara> it is giving me options to use fdisk on a ide, scsi, etc...
[07:30] <kuahara> I only have a sata disk
[07:30] <drivetrax> scsi
[07:30] <Flip2405> usser wrong iso, iso as in seach of
[07:30] <WarMX> who knows about creating .deb files?
[07:30] <LimeGreenChia> did something change with hardy? I upgraded an older computer that has a tnt2 video card and with gutsy I had the legacy driver, but now it doesn't show that I have the driver. I removed it and reinstalled it, but it doesn't show up in the hardware menu.
[07:30] <patifa> kuahara, then "fdisk /dev/sda" probably
[07:30] <kuahara> unable to open /dev/sda
[07:30] <xim> can you 'upgrade' to hardy or does it require a reformat
[07:31] <scalio> elo anyone help on 8.04 upgrade n then no wired connection?
[07:31] <patifa> oh, der, sudo it
[07:31] <usser> Flip2405, oh that was for exp_
[07:31] <ere4si> LimeGreenChia: I had that issue and had to find a workaround
[07:31] <kuahara> ok, this returned something else...sec
[07:32] <Flip2405> Oh well can you help me out
[07:32] <PMantis> Can someone please paste(bot) their default 8.04 /etc/cups/printers.conf file?
[07:32] <Ashvala> Kuahara... Try fdisk -l & tell the result
[07:32] <usser> Flip2405, whats the problem?
[07:32] <Ashvala> but do fdisk -l as root
[07:32] <LimeGreenChia> where did you find the workaround? its getting old use a 800x600 desktop
[07:32] <kuahara> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 30401.  There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024 and could in certain setups cause problems with software that runs at boot time or booting and partitioning software from other os's
[07:32] <patifa> Thanks Ashvala, was really trying to remember that command
[07:32] <dhr> drivetrax: for the sake of expediency, I booted Vista (essentially unused), installed firefox, and Java just worked.  How sad.
[07:32] <kuahara> ashvala the result is nothing, I tried that before you suggested it  =o
[07:32] <scalio> no wired connection after upgrade to hardy?
[07:32] <mussolini> sudo apt-get install php5
[07:33] <Flip2405> Okay my sound randomly gose out h00k fixed it via vnc earlyer he modprobed some shit added a line to something i rebooted and it worked but it went out again
[07:33] <mussolini> sry wrong window
[07:33] <patifa> kuahara, sudo fdisk -l?
[07:33] <kelvin911> program randomly crashes in hardy how to fix?
[07:33] <patifa> kuahara, just fdisk -l will produce nothing
[07:33] <drivetrax> dhr,  yah.. java jre 1.5 was in it
[07:33] <ere4si> LimeGreenChia: I used a backed up xorg from gutsy - modprobed the nvidia - then added nvidia to /etc/modules
[07:33] <kelvin911> now weather.py stops unexpectedly in awn
[07:33] <drivetrax> dhr,  vista just got a java2 upgrade..
[07:33] <Ashvala> Kuahura... See my PM on your Xchat  sidebar
[07:33] <kelvin911> how to fix the randomly crashes in hardy?
[07:33] <kuahara> patifa, that returned:  building a new sun disklabel.  changes wil remain in memory only until you decide to write them
[07:33] <patifa> O_o
[07:34] <exp_> okay i understand that    To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>       works evereryt imne     is there a GUI interface for that ?
[07:34] <kuahara> what xchat sidebar
[07:34] <kuahara> oh
[07:34] <patifa> yeah ok, this might be out of my league
[07:34] <Ashvala> See my Private message
[07:34] <usser> Flip2405, i wouldnt know sorry
[07:34] <kuahara> it said it blocked you due to spam
[07:34] <kuahara> sec, lemme fix that
[07:34] <Flip2405> nvm i found it
[07:34] <Ashvala> Dialog Box
[07:34] <Ashvala> DAMn
[07:34] <Ashvala> you try
[07:34] <kuahara> how do I register?
[07:34] <LimeGreenChia> ere4si: is there a more detailed walkthrough on that somewhere?
[07:34] <kuahara> I can't receive xchat until I register this name on this server I guess
[07:34] <Ashvala> I am not registered either
[07:35] <kuahara> its been ages since I did that
[07:35] <patifa> kuahara, get fdisk to quit without writing/saving
[07:35] <ere4si> LimeGreenChia: does your xorg.conf file list a driver for the card - I did it myself...
[07:35] <djhash> type.. /msg nickserv register password <---
[07:35] <kuahara> done
[07:35] <Ashvala> kuahara... ALL I sugegst is do sudo fdisk -l
[07:35] <Flip2405> hey i have a question you guys can help me with
[07:35] <janushell> help with ubuntu 8.04 Server Edition Install... it sayd.... No drivers Found...
[07:35] <kuahara> ashvala, I did that and posted the return message above
[07:35] <exp_> Anyone know a gui front end for   **sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>
[07:35] <kuahara> patifa, that returned:  building a new sun disklabel.  changes wil remain in memory only until you decide to write them
[07:35] <scalio> hardy cant connect to internet.anyone help on this issue?
[07:35] <Flip2405> is there any way to make it perminatly boot without the splash screen
[07:36] <kuahara> repasted it
[07:36] <kuahara> its addressed to patifa
[07:36] <kuahara> but same thing  =o
[07:36] <Flip2405> usser can you help me with booting without a splash screen
[07:36] <usser> exp_, something like that http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-isos-easely-in-gnome-nautilus.html
[07:36] <PMantis> I backed-ed up my laptop, installed 8.04. What file should I copy over to recover my wireless keys for Network Manager? (Where's the password keyring file?)
[07:36] <Kokey> Hi! I'd like to connect two computers via wireless, I'm following the "Ad Hoc Wireless NetWorking" document in help.ubuntu.com but after type #ifconfig wlan up got the message "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported". I'm using 8.04
[07:36] <patifa> yeah at this point I have no idea what that means, kuahara .
[07:36] <drivetrax> !exp wubi?
[07:36] <djhash> Flip2405: you mean you want to see all the info it give during boot and not the splash screen?
[07:36] <kuahara> patifa that was the result of sudo fdisk -l
[07:36] <Flip2405> djhash Yes
[07:36] <LimeGreenChia> ere4si: sorry, i'm still learning nix and so I need more complete instructions when I do it, plus i'm not at that pc right now
[07:36] <exp_> usser  tyty
[07:37] <mcp_> Hi, i have 2 problems (maybe realated) with hardy. 1st, when i do some work, the harddisk is accessed like every 2 seconds. Really annoying sound. 2nd, system takes a little break (about 1 sec) from time to time. I had none of this probles in the previous ubuntu release
[07:37] <kuahara> zcat helped me create the partition and mount it to a folder we created earlier.  I assumed that was written to disk since I gave it a w to write
[07:37] <Flip2405> djhash if you can please pm me in this regard i cant see with all the spam
[07:37] <kuahara> but after reboot, I can not seem to access it anymore
[07:37] <ere4si> LimeGreenChia: one min pls
[07:37] <Ashvala> Oh My God
[07:37] <^0o0^> hi, all. I installed ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop(Lenovo F41), but after running the system for a while about half an hour, the laptop became more hotter than running under windows. I want to know if there some energy managemant tools for the ubuntu?THX:D
[07:37] <usser> Flip2405, yea sure when your pc starts booting keep hitting ESC, this will get your into bootloader, on the first line press 'e' press 'e' again on the third/long line and delete splash after its done press 'b' to boot
[07:37] <kuahara> I am going to go through all the steps we took earlier to make that partition readable again
[07:37] <o0Chris0o> how can I configure nautilus so I when there is a pic in the file browser I can right click sand set as desktop? anyone know
[07:37] <kuahara> I will need your help to move the data
[07:38] <scalio> thanks..
[07:38] <patifa> kuahara, not sure the partition is even there
[07:38] <patifa> kuahara, or if there's even a readable partition table
[07:38] <kuahara> its there
[07:38] <kuahara> just not mountable
[07:38] <usser> mcp_, first one is probably firefox, its beta therefore buggy
[07:38] <kuahara> how do I get to root again?
[07:39] <djhash> sudo su
[07:39] <o0Chris0o> patifa: you remember the link you gave me about configuring nautilis so I can set a pick as deskop wallpaper
[07:39] <patifa> kuahara, 'sudo' before a command.
[07:39] <patifa> o0Chris0o, I don't remember.
[07:39] <djhash> Flip2405: i have pm'ed you.. are you registered?
[07:39] <kuahara> eff all that lol
[07:39] <patifa> o0Chris0o, What's a "set a pick as desktop wallpaper"?
[07:39] <shiesty> a
[07:39] <kuahara> just did sudo passwd root and changed it
[07:39] <God-Complex> Hello, what command line command can i use to install ubuntu, it has booted into a non graphical mode (comand line)
[07:39] <kuahara> su root~
[07:40] <patifa> kuahara, you could've just done 'sudo bash'
[07:40] <kuahara> not sure what that does
[07:40] <djhash> kuahar: you could simply have done 'sudo su'
[07:40] <kuahara> I'm a linux noob
[07:40] <ere4si> LimeGreenChia: I could walk you through it one step at a time but you need to be at that comp
[07:40] <drivetrax> cd /
[07:40] <patifa> kuahara, starts a new terminal session in your current one, as root.
[07:40] <o0Chris0o> patifa: is there a plugin for nautilus that shows on the menu when you right click a pic you can save a picture as a wallpaper
[07:40] <doug_> kuahara: we all where at one point.
[07:40] <djhash> kuahara: 'su' will log you on as a super user.. basically root
[07:40] <cpsfunbox> hello guys
[07:41] <mcp_> usser, you may be rigth on that. Just closed firefox, and now its silent. Usually firefox is open all the time, so i thought its a general system problem.
[07:41] <patifa> o0Chris0o, I honestly don't remember.  Sorry. :(
[07:41] <david__--> doug_:same problem doug,lol...ill be back after hardy finishes and see what that does,thanks for the help :)
[07:41] <o0Chris0o> np
[07:41] <LimeGreenChia> ere4si: thanks but i was hoping it was just a small tweak or something. I'll have to look into it when i'm at that computer. thanks for the help
[07:41] <cpsfunbox> is there any applications for ubuntu to convert videos?
[07:41] <ere4si> k
[07:41] <cpsfunbox> need help
[07:41] <kuahara> ok
[07:41] <drivetrax> cpsfunbox,  yea
[07:41] <kuahara> I did a force mount of that volume to a new folder
[07:41] <patifa> kuahara, anything in it?
[07:41] <usser> mcp_, yea its a known bug, get firefox2 from mozilla.org or opera or konqueror u have lots of options
[07:41] <kuahara> when I ls that folder though, it says the only folder there is one called "system volume information"
[07:42] <kuahara> but it does not let me cd into that folder
[07:42] <doug_> david__--: sorry it didnt work and ok i am goin to bed but feel free to pop in room #wwed or #wwwed and let me know i will check them later
[07:42] <kuahara> when I try it says it doesn't exist
[07:42] <Ashvala> ok... Result Kuahara
[07:42] <patifa> kuahara: empty NTFS drive....
[07:42] <david__--> ok
[07:42] <kelvin911> anyone using awn here?
[07:42] <cpsfunbox> drivetrax can you give me the name of application that can convert video to mpg or other formats
[07:42] <usser> mcp_, eventually firefox3 will be fixed but its unlikely this will happen before the middle of july
[07:42] <Ashvala> Me
[07:42] <styles> I just installed Ubuntu, I have wine and ... the nvidia drivers running. The computer is TRIPPPING out. All thats running is firefox and XChat
[07:42] <marupa> kelvin911, I was, why
[07:42] <Ashvala> I use AWN Kelvin
[07:42] <kuahara> ok, now the ubuntu gui lets me access both
[07:42] <Ashvala> on my MacBook Air with Linux
[07:42] <kuahara> I can get into the media and open the system volume info folder
[07:42] <redwhitewaldo> hi, geeks. I was told the answer here before, but don't remember what was said. I want  a "sudo foo" command to run  everytime the computer logs on. Adding to sessions won't work. Could you tell me which file I should add this sudo command to?
[07:43] <Ashvala> AH
[07:43] <kuahara> there is a file called MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase
[07:43] <kuahara> no clue what to do with that
[07:43] <kuahara> there is also one called tracking.log
[07:43] <Ashvala> do less tracking.log
[07:43] <dem0n_> zzzzzzzz djhash can you please join channel flip considering i cant remmber my pw
[07:43] <Ashvala> & see tha contents
[07:43] <babolat> cpsfunbox: Avidemux2 (http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/)
[07:43] <BurnedPhoenix> How or when does the .asoundrc file get generated in my home folder?
[07:43] <patifa> Ashvala, good luck helping kuahara.  I need sleep.
[07:44] <Ashvala> Sure
[07:44] <Ashvala> Will try my best
[07:44] <drivetrax> cpsfunbox,  -- I was just looking around today.. you see, I wanted to find Non-Linear editor under Linux... and google returned a few things.. Jahshaka , Kino , and there may be something proprietary.. if you have a DV capture card, or other analog capture card
[07:44] <Ashvala> Good night Patifa
[07:44] <BurnedPhoenix> How or when does the .asoundrc file get generated in my home folder?
[07:44] <Ashvala> ok kuahara
[07:44] <Ashvala> What is your IP
[07:44] <janushell> who installed already UBUNTU 8.04 Server Edition ????
[07:44] <Ashvala> I will log in
[07:45] <cpsfunbox> babolat, i will try the site u given me
[07:45] <anolis> is Ubuntu good with tablet pc's? is there any type of automatic touch screen recognition/osk?
[07:45] <dmibnmg> Ubuntu Server 64 ? Me!
[07:45] <akun> help: is there an eqivalent of windows' "device manager" in Ubuntu?
[07:45] <kuahara> ashvala why are you asking me for that =o
[07:45] <babolat> cpsfunbox: dunno if they have something that's already compiled for u..
[07:45] <drivetrax> akun - HAL...
[07:46] <cpsfunbox> heres the scenario, i want to convert videos that i can put it in my iphone, ipod, mobilephones
[07:46] <Ashvala> Simply... So taht i can just log in & fix it
[07:46] <anolis> cpsfunbox, use ffmpeg
[07:46] <akun> drivetrax: what do I type on the command prompt to run that "HAL"?
[07:46] <kuahara> you want the IP to the linux box?
[07:46] <electricsheep> how do i block all network access and block all ports without using iptables?
[07:46] <babolat> what do u wish to accomplish akun?
[07:46] <Ashvala> sure
[07:46] <blackbird> !info reiserfs
[07:46] <kuahara> sec, not even sure it can connect to the net atm
[07:46] <anolis> electricsheep, unplug the ethernet cable
[07:46] <Ashvala> BUT SEND A USER NAME & PW to ashvala@gmail.com
[07:46] <akun> balobat: I want to know whether my modem is properly detected
[07:46] <cpsfunbox> anolis, is ffmpeg is a gui applications for ubuntu
[07:46] <janushell> ubuntu Server needs the drivers ?? i just tried to install it on a HP nx9010 Laptop and Says HARDWARE DRIVERS NOT FOUND
[07:46] <drivetrax> akun -- get into 'preferences' and find Hardware Manager
[07:47] <anolis> cpsfunbox, there is a gui frontend i believe
[07:47] <kuahara> jebus
[07:47] <kuahara> it figured that out all on its own
[07:47] <akun> drivetrax: will try
[07:47] <cpsfunbox> can you give the site but still i will look for it
[07:47] <kuahara> ok, I have tons of remote control experience in windows environments, but none in linux
[07:47] <Ashvala> iP address Kuahara
[07:47] <kuahara> what do I need to do
[07:47] <janushell> why ubuntu desktop is bigger than ubuntu Server
[07:47] <Ashvala> ifconfig
[07:47] <kuahara> sex
[07:47] <kuahara> sec
[07:47] <drivetrax> akun,  .. uhm, it's called Hardware information
[07:48] <anolis> janushell, because it has more packages, and software
[07:48] <tehk> Can you have a 16:10 framebuffer with an intel card?
[07:48] <marupa> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix the no-audio on that particular file?  I think everything's fine in the codecs, but it won't load audio on that file.
[07:48] <patifa> kuahara: IF _all else_ fails at the end.  Partition Manager in System > Administration can redo the entire drive, but of course you'll loose everything on the drive. :\
[07:48] <akun> help: how do I connect the internet using my dial-up modem? (i'm now on windows because dunno how to connect using ubuntu)
[07:48] <kuahara> guess ipconfig doesn't work in ubuntu
[07:48] <anolis> kuahara, ifconfig is what your are looking for
[07:48] <janushell> where can I get information about installing ubuntu troubleshooting...
[07:48] <babolat> akun: System > Help and Support has good documentation on that
[07:49] <akun> babolat: will try that... thanks... hope i can log in here using ubuntu soon
[07:49] <babolat> akun: wud u like to have the instructions now or look in Help and Support?
[07:49] <XDS2010> hey frog
[07:49] <drivetrax> akun,  connection set-up for dial-up is also in the ubuntu online help.. try 'setting up modem ubuntu' in google
[07:49] <XDS2010> :)
[07:50] <XDS2010> burning the midnight oil huh ?
[07:50] <anolis> is ubuntu tablet friendly?
[07:50] <kelvin911> anyone has the weather thing in the panel?
[07:50] <XDS2010> anolis yes
[07:50] <akun> balobat: if you have anything to add other than the help and support (e.g., other useful links), please do give me before I reboot soon
[07:50] <drivetrax> wacom
[07:50] <cuonglb> hello everybody
[07:50] <cuonglb> i'm be back
[07:50] <cuonglb> hehe
[07:50] <anolis> XDS2010, how so, is the a hcl?
[07:50] <anolis> there*
[07:50] <kuahara> ashvala need anything else?
[07:50] <cpsfunbox> before i was a fun of windows and my video converters are xilisoft, ipod video converter, allok 3gp video converter but i switch to linux coz it gives me a headache in windows and always got infected with virus
[07:51] <Ashvala> Kua... Are you on gmail?
[07:51] <XDS2010> anolis ubuntu has/is(most friendly) the most tablet features of any distro
[07:51] <babolat> akun: one moment
[07:51] <kuahara> yes
[07:51] <cpsfunbox> is there any guys out there manage to handle same application that might work in ubuntu
[07:51] <kuahara> I gave you my ip already
[07:51] <Ashvala> what is your ID?
[07:51] <kuahara> check your pm
[07:51] <Ashvala> jebus?
[07:51] <kuahara> no lol
[07:51] <kuahara> I pm'd you my ip address right here in irc
[07:52] <Ashvala> Not got it yet
[07:52] <kuahara> I will email it to you
[07:52] <anolis> XDS2010, mm good it will (hopefully) work nicely on the Hammerhead XRT i just ordered XD
[07:52] <Ashvala> sure
[07:52] <Ashvala> mailto:ashvala@gmail.com
[07:52] <XDS2010> :P , yeah anolis hope it works out for you
[07:52] <babolat> akun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10687/
[07:52] <PMantis> Hello, after reinstalling my laptop (7.04->8.04), I copied ~/.gnome2/keyrings/* to my new install from backup. gnome-keyring-manager sees the keys, but network manager does not. Ideas?
[07:53] <BurnedPhoenix> I am attempting to get Ventrilo functioning in Wine using my Logictech headset. Following the Guide in Wowwiki I have gotten to a point where it wants me to edit my .asoundrc file in my home directory. I can't seem to find that file in my home directory. I know that it is used in ALSA and I know I have an ALSA based device but I don't know how the .asoundrc file is created by the system for me to edit for use with Ventril
[07:53] <kuahara> sent
[07:53] <XDS2010> anolis you can also try sw 12.1 which just came out
[07:53] <anolis> XDS2010, what about gps stuff.. whats a good app for that that is FOSS?
[07:53] <lkthomas_> hey guys
[07:53] <lkthomas_> sup
[07:53] <XDS2010> just a shot
[07:53] <XDS2010> anolis sw has better GPS support IMHO
[07:53] <XDS2010> FOSS ?
[07:53] <friedtofu> anyone know of a good addressbook application?
[07:54] <kelvin911> can anyone tell me what is this? http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotwu7.png
[07:54] <babolat> friedtofu: gnome or kde?
[07:54] <Ashvala> ok
[07:54] <friedtofu> gnome
[07:54] <friedtofu> *well. gtk - using xfce
[07:54] <friedtofu> babolat - any recommendations?
[07:55] <akun> babolat: thanks... will try it
[07:55] <Ashvala> Kuahara... Mailed back
[07:55] <babolat> friedtofu: i'm partial to Evolution ;) best Mail app ever.. works flawlessly and many functions to it that u might want to be interested in
[07:55] <IanClark> where is a list of drivers for CD-RW/DVD drives?
[07:55] <IanClark> does anyone know?
[07:56] <friedtofu> haha. i see
[07:56] <babolat> IanClark: /media
[07:56] <IanClark> thanx
[07:56] <cpsfunbox> asides from the suggestion came from babolat, anolis, and drivetrax....and guys out here manage to get applications for converting videos to ipod, mobile phone, and iphone that runs in ubuntu?
[07:56] <redwhitewaldo> ﻿. I want  a "sudo foo" command to run  everytime the computer logs on. Adding to sessions won't work. Could you tell me which file I should add this sudo command to?
[07:56] <crdlb> friedtofu: try 'contacts'
[07:56] <Ashvala> Dude... Install SSH
[07:57] <Ashvala> sudo apt-get install openssh
[07:57] <friedtofu> crdlb: "contacts" is part of which program
[07:57] <babolat> cpsfunbox: amarok i think has a good iPod (which should also logically work with iPhone, right?) sync function.. dunno bout mobile phone. i think that's unit-dependent
[07:57] <Ashvala> @kua... You there?
[07:57] <crdlb> friedtofu: it's in universe. It uses a bit of gnome stuff though (evolution-data-server and gconf)
[07:57] <kuahara> ash done
[07:58] <Ashvala> @kua install openssh
[07:58] <crdlb> friedtofu: it's part of a suite of apps that provide lightweight access to evo's PIM stuff
[07:58] <kuahara> couldn't find package openssh
[07:58] <cpsfunbox> babolat, is amarok is already builtin in ubuntu or do i have to download it
[07:59] <kuahara> am installing regular ssh
[07:59] <anolis> well anyways, thanks for all the help XDS2010, gotta go to sleep
[07:59] <shiesty> yo
[07:59] <friedtofu> crdlb: i see... so install evolution to get contacts...
[07:59] <Ashvala> openssh-server
[07:59] <shiesty> how do i no if my name is registerd on here?
[07:59] <crdlb> friedtofu: not all of evolution though :)
[07:59] <kuahara> can you use ssh? or do you need the open source version?
[07:59] <flip2405> any one know how to install css useing wine
[07:59] <kelvin911> why hardy taks longer to load?
[07:59] <babolat> cpsfunbox: hardy, no.. gutsy, not sure but i think not. but it's easily available from the Add/Remove Apps menu
[07:59] <shiesty> i cant send private messages
[08:00] <kelvin911> gutsy takes like 5 second to load
[08:00] <kelvin911> but hardy takes like more than 15 seconds to load
[08:00] <nol1fe> shiesty: try /motd in serverchannel
[08:00] <kuahara> installed both
[08:00] <Ashvala> @kua do sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:00] <kuahara> waiting for you
[08:00] <friedtofu> crdlb: anyways - thanks - i'll explore
[08:00] <flip2405> djhash
[08:00] <cpsfunbox> babolat: ok i will check this one
[08:00] <kuahara> I am already logged in as root
[08:00] <drivetrax> cpsfunbox,  -- read: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/initial-linux-support-for-the-5g-video-ipod-video-sync-using-gtkpod-libgpod
[08:00] <shiesty> ?
[08:01] <Ashvala> kua... I am not able to login
[08:01] <starcannon> shiesty If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[08:01] <babolat> kelvin911: load how? from turn on > log in> everything ready? or from switch user?
[08:01] <XDS2010> frogscott: are you there ?
[08:01] <kuahara> ashvala all lower case
[08:01] <flip2405> Hello can some one help me with css via wine
[08:01] <Ashvala> i knowssh: connect to host 65.67.180.21 port 22: Connection refused
[08:01] <Ashvala> ssh: connect to host 65.67.180.21 port 22: Connection refused
[08:01] <marupa> Ashvala, your ISP may block 22.
[08:01] <kuahara> I am behind a router
[08:01] <Ashvala> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:01] <kuahara> does that matter
[08:02] <kuahara> I already installed openssh server
[08:02] <shiesty>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[08:02] <Ashvala> Ok
[08:02] <marupa> kuahara, you'd have to have the ports forwarded, or use DMZ.
[08:02] <Ashvala> hold on
[08:02] <kuahara> my router takes care of port forwarding
[08:02] <nol1fe> shiesty: no space before the /msg
[08:02] <marupa> kuahara, obviously not if it's refusing.
[08:02] <shiesty>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[08:02] <drivetrax> router firewalled?
[08:03] <shiesty> thier isnt
[08:03] <kuahara> no
[08:03] <Ashvala> Not mine either
[08:03] <IanClark> babolat: it only shows cdrom.  where is a list of drivers for DVD/CDR combos in Ubuntu?
[08:03] <Ashvala> hold on
[08:03] <starcannon> shiesty you'd put your password in the <password> spot :)
[08:03] <kuahara> no firewall on the linux box, am just using ubuntu live
[08:03] <cpsfunbox> drivetrax: i will check this one
[08:03] <drivetrax> if on DSL, try to connect to the modem/router type 192 into a browser
[08:03] <IanClark> babolat: perhaps I need a special driver?
[08:03] <shiesty>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <red123>
[08:03] <kuahara> I am pinging my router
[08:03] <kuahara> no issues
[08:03] <Ashvala> ok
[08:03] <babolat> IanClark: so your Combo isnt detected?
[08:04] <marupa> kuahara, Still could be blocking it.
[08:04] <shiesty> man i reinstalled ubuntu
[08:04] <Ashvala>  65.67.180.218 or 21?
[08:04] <shiesty> i got it to work the other day
[08:04] <babolat> shiesty: oops.. better change that password
[08:04] <o0Chris0o> hey guys, if you use gnome and don't get the menu link to set an image as desktop PLZ check out this link http://packages.ubuntu.com/nautilus-wallpaper
[08:04] <marupa> kuahara, mind if I portscan you?
[08:04] <shiesty> lol
[08:04] <shiesty> so im not registerd?
[08:04] <kuahara> I guess its not up to me
[08:04] <kuahara> now that ash has just dropped it in the chat
[08:04] <marupa> kuahara, seeing a closed port on that IP.
[08:04] <Ashvala> oh sorry
[08:04] <babolat> IanClark: u still there?
[08:04] <starcannon> shiesty go to freenode.net and google and read up a bit bro, thats the easiest way
[08:05] <kuahara> how do you use ipconfig in linux
[08:05] <shiesty> ya im at the page
[08:05] <mistiipu>  i just got a crossover connection for a pc (for internet sharing) got working. i just change the other pc by an other and it stoped working. it says a network cable is unpluged. why is that so?
[08:05] <shiesty> it tells me to type this
[08:05] <Maestro> hello
[08:05] <marupa> kuahara, ipconfig interface ip
[08:05] <Maestro> Im a Ubuntu newbie and needs some help or advice
[08:05] <Ashvala> Ok
[08:05] <shiesty> i guess i am registerd
[08:05] <Maestro> can someone msg me pls
[08:05] <kuahara> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[08:05] <Ashvala> I cant do it
[08:05] <marupa> Maestro, what's the question?
[08:05] <drivetrax> hahaha
[08:05] <Ashvala> Port blocked
[08:06] <marupa> kuahara, it's ifconfig, sorry.
[08:06] <Ashvala> Port Restricted for Security Reasons
[08:06] <Ashvala>       
[08:06] <Ashvala>       
[08:06] <Ashvala>       
[08:06] <Ashvala>       
[08:06] <Ashvala>       
[08:06] <FloodBot2> Ashvala: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:06] <drivetrax> yep
[08:06] <pschulz01> Greetings.. I am trying to configure the routing for an OpenVPN connection on a client.. using the nm-applet..
[08:06] <marupa> kuahara, port blocked, must be opened in the router.
[08:06] <starcannon> Maestro great place for a noob to start is http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:06] <drivetrax> 21 is ssh
[08:06] <drivetrax> for mail
[08:06] <Maestro> marupa : I am trying to figure out the best or fastest way to learn or familairize with ubuntu
[08:06] <pschulz01> When I add more than 1 route the 'apply' button greys out...
[08:06] <drivetrax> 22 is ftp
[08:06] <kuahara> is ashvala able to come back?
[08:06] <marupa> drivetrax, wrong.
[08:06] <drivetrax> 10 is for regular pop
[08:06] <Maestro> basically im a MCSE and have been working in the windows environment for the last 12 years
[08:06] <Ashvala> no
[08:07] <Maestro> want to make a change and see how to replace all those microsoft stuff with ubuntu
[08:07] <marupa> Maestro, best way to figure it out is just screw around.  It's hard to break linux. :3
[08:07] <pschulz01> This is on hardy.. gutsy does the right thing.
[08:07] <Ashvala> sry man
[08:07] <Maestro> there is no tutorial get you started?
[08:07] <Ashvala> am really sorry kua
[08:07] <drivetrax> ell.. i fink they got my smtp set to 25
[08:07] <marupa> Maestro, Unfortunately, no.
[08:07] <Ashvala> cant help now
[08:07] <vylinx> solution for 8.04 internet connection issue?
[08:07] <starcannon> Maestro try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Guide
[08:07] <Ashvala> Ciao All
[08:08] <Ashvala> Was a Nice time
[08:08] <kuahara> wtf
[08:08] <Maestro> thx starcannon
[08:08] <Maestro> i will try out
[08:08] <kuahara> great..back to square 1
[08:08] <marupa> kuahara, your port is blocked in your router, please portforward.  UPNP doesn't work that way.
[08:08] <kuahara> marupa, I need commands fed to me.  I am new to linux
[08:08] <electricsh33p> hi, how do i block all network access and block all ports without using iptables? i want to make a panic button that blocks all incoming/outgoing network access
[08:08] <kuahara> in windows environments none of this is a problem
[08:08] <marupa> kuahara, log into your router and forward port 22 to your IP.
[08:08] <kuahara> sec
[08:09] <drivetrax> electricsh33p,  get 'firestarter
[08:09] <babolat> IanClark: u still there?
[08:09] <IanClark> babolat: yes it isn't detected
[08:09] <djhash> electricsh33p: or you can simply shutdown the ethernet interface.. using 'ifdown'
[08:09] <redwhitewaldo> ﻿ I want  a "sudo foo" command to run  everytime the computer logs on. Adding to sessions won't work. Could you tell me which file I should add this sudo command to?
[08:09] <babolat> IanClark: is it detected by your BIOS?
[08:09] <IanClark> babolat: I can play DVD's, but it doesn't show a blank CD icon on my desktop when I insert a blank CD.  I'm running Hardy.
[08:09] <pschulz01> Aha!  I can't type.. and a full IP address (eg. 10.0.0.0/8) is required.
[08:09] <drivetrax> please note.. the Linux Kernel has an iptable firewall in it, that is controlled with firestarter and other GUI front ends
[08:09] <djhash> redwhitewaldo: have you tried creating a cron job?
[08:09] <vylinx> i cant connect to internet on 8.04.help pls?
[08:10] <electricsh33p> thx for the replies
[08:10] <starcannon> electricsh33p you can always pull the cat5 outta the back of the machine as well, no wire, nothing gets in, nothing gets out ;)
[08:10] <IanClark> babolat: when I go into BIOS what should I look for?
[08:10] <schitzo> yo
[08:10] <babolat> IanClark: oh.. but you are able to burn to such blank disk
[08:10] <schitzo> you tell me ;)
[08:10] <shiesty> yo
[08:10] <IanClark> babolat: no, I can't burn to the disk, it isn't detected
[08:10] <sc006> electricsh33p, just right click on the two little computer in the right corner uncheck networking
[08:10] <babolat> IanClark: huh? have u tried other blanks?
[08:11] <IanClark> babolat: yes, and I've tried this on XP and it doesn't detect, either.
[08:11] <joacim_> join #ubuntu
[08:11] <IanClark> babolat: I'm on dual boot
[08:11] <electricsh33p> im doing an application that blocks all connections and deletes some preconfigured files to prevent a leak, and not experienced in linux
[08:11] <vylinx> anyone will ponder on 8.04 internet connection problem?many people have this problem and no absolute solution till now?
[08:11] <electricsh33p> so i guess ill use ifdown
[08:12] <kuahara> am using a Linksys WRT54g router.  I don't see an option to forward port 22 to my ip
[08:12] <babolat> IanClark: you are able to play DVDs in that drive under an Ubuntu session?
[08:12] <gaven_> This is weird: http://youtube.com/watch?v=orMgaEkUfXQ
[08:12] <marupa> kuahara, it'd be under applications and gaming
[08:12] <IanClark> babolat: yes, they play great.  And oddly they wouldn't play under XP
[08:12] <babolat> IanClark: one moment
[08:12] <kuahara> done
[08:12] <shiesty> yo grounzero
[08:13] <marupa> kuahara, saved?
[08:13] <vylinx> i returned gutsy after many hours of find the solution
[08:13] <djhash> !offtopic |gaven_
[08:13] <shiesty> MSG <groundzero> <what up>
[08:13] <kuahara> marupa yes
[08:13] <kuahara> port range forward:  start 22, end 22, forwarding to 192.168.1.0
[08:13] <kuahara> enabled and saved that
[08:13] <marupa> uhhhh, no
[08:14] <babolat> IanClark: it is not able to detect blank *CDs* or *DVDs* ??
[08:14] <groundzero> whay= up shiesty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <shiesty> yo
[08:14] <shiesty> lol
[08:14] <marupa> kuahara, it can't be on .0, you have to assign it to a particular IP for your computer and statically assign that computer's IP address.
[08:14] <shiesty> eddie?
[08:14] <djhash> forward to the linux box ip address. 192.168.1.0 is probably your router
[08:14] <shiesty> sup fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:14] <kuahara> marupa under port range forwarding?
[08:14] <IanClark> babolat: it's not able to detect blank CD's.  It's a DVD/CD-RW combo (LG)
[08:14] <groundzero> what the deal!
[08:14] <shiesty> u cant get my private chats r what?
[08:15] <marupa> kuahara, Is the computer set to DHCP (auto) or static (manual)?
[08:15] <vylinx> thanks for no help
[08:15] <cuonglb> hehe
[08:15] <kuahara> DHCP
[08:15] <cuonglb> có ai người Việt ở đây không ta ?
[08:15] <kuahara> oh crap
[08:15] <Myrtti> !english
[08:15] <marupa> kuahara, It must be set to static (manual) or else this will not work.
[08:15] <kuahara> I forgot I changed that to 100
[08:15] <kelvin911> is hardy still in beta?
[08:15] <kuahara> sec
[08:15] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[08:15] <shiesty> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ................................it tells you how to register ur name
[08:15] <Myrtti> kelvin911: no
[08:15] <groundzero> msg me
[08:15] <kelvin911> hardy is really unstable
[08:15] <shiesty> ight
[08:15] <marupa> kelvin911, It's not for me.
[08:15] <kuahara> ok marupa
[08:16] <kuahara> try again
[08:16] <kelvin911> how did u update it?
[08:16] <Myrtti> !enter
[08:16] <starcannon> kelvin911 it hasn't crashed even once here, I've had it up and running since release day with no reboots
[08:16] <shiesty> nothing?
[08:16] <marupa> kelvin911, fresh install
[08:16] <cuonglb> install secpanel in UNIX
[08:16] <kelvin911> i update it thru autoupdate
[08:16] <vylinx> hardy is a great dissappointment for many
[08:16] <Myrtti> !who
[08:16] <babolat> IanClark: what do u try to use for burning? because the case may be that the application is just not autostarting or detecting the blank
[08:16] <marupa> kuahara, nothing.  Make sure your IP is set to static/manual, and put that IP in your router.
[08:16] <aryo> #surabaya
[08:17] <vylinx> even old distros have no internet connection problems
[08:17] <IanClark> babolat:  I've tried many applications, including brasero and k3b.  None of them work, they don't see the blank CD.
[08:17] <kelvin911> do u guys have weather in upper panel/
[08:17] <joacim_> My problem: drupal5 on ubuntu-server 7.10. done: sudo aptitude install drupal5 (apache2 and mysql). changed config file apache2 according to ubuntu-wiki docs => firefox url: localhost/install.php => firefox says WHAT TO DO WITH PHTML???? any ideas??
[08:17] <cuonglb> bester firewall on Linux OS ?
[08:17] <kuahara> I think if I take it off pppoe I am going to be in trouble
[08:17] <groundzero> yo shiesty
[08:17] <shiesty> MSG <groundzero><yo did you get backtrack to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?>
[08:17] <starcannon> kelvin911 I tried auto-update once, and didn't like it, I keep /home on a seperate partition and it makes fresh installs a breeze
[08:17] <marupa> kuahara, No...your Computer.
[08:17] <sc006> electricsh33p, there is a icon of two computers in the upper right hand corner of your desktop, right click it unselected networking
[08:17] <mistiipu>  i just got a crossover connection for a pc (for internet sharing) got working. i just change the other pc by an other and it stoped working. it says a network cable is unpluged. why is that so?
[08:17] <drivetrax> IanClark,  take the Blank CD to a new Burner.
[08:17] <marupa> kuahara, you have to set your computer static.
[08:17] <groundzero> not yet
[08:17] <kelvin911> i dont have seperate /home
[08:17] <kuahara> marupa, if its a change I need to make in linux, I need the commands fed to me
[08:18] <kuahara> I have nfc how to use this os
[08:18] <shiesty> what virtual machine did u get?
[08:18] <marupa> cuonglb, best is just not to have the programs running.
[08:18] <kelvin911> starcannon: when the weather is Mist, i dont have the icon for it
[08:18] <IanClark> drivetrax: you mean a different burning app?  or to a different drive (?)
[08:18] <kelvin911> starcannon: it shows grey
[08:18] <marupa> kuahara, system->administration->network
[08:18] <drivetrax> drive
[08:18] <groundzero> try vmware
[08:18] <kelvin911> starcannon: how to fresh install?
[08:18] <IanClark> drivetrax: I only have one drive
[08:18] <vylinx> no experts here?
[08:18] <shiesty> i went to the site
[08:19] <marupa> kuahara, mind if we take this to PM?
[08:19] <kelvin911> starcannon: format the partition and install?
[08:19] <XDS2010> i've been thinking about switching to ubuntu
[08:19] <shiesty> i didnt no what to download
[08:19] <marupa> vylinx, what was the question?
[08:19] <drivetrax> IanClark,  first sign my drive was going.. it read some, but not others.. that previously read and burned itself
[08:19] <XDS2010> as my primary
[08:19] <kuahara> marupa, don't mind at all
[08:19] <vylinx> thankx marupa
[08:19] <starcannon> kelvin911 you'll need a way to back up your /home if you have lots of stuff you wanna keep in there, an external or extra internal hdd would be the best candidate
[08:19] <babolat> IanClark: try here -->cannot detect blank ubuntu
[08:19] <shiesty>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:19] <vylinx> i have just upgrade to hardy
[08:19] <kuahara> ok
[08:19] <kuahara> its not sending me your PM's
[08:19] <vylinx> but no internet connetion
[08:19] <kuahara> says I have to register here first
[08:19] <kelvin911> starcannon: did the font changed in hardy?
[08:19] <kuahara> how do I do that
[08:19] <FloodBot2> kuahara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <babolat> IanClark: try here -->http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/None-CD-Drives-detect-blank-CD-Rs-t162895.html
[08:19] <Jambon> could someone help me. I don't know how to access the filesystem on my camera. ubuntu won't show it. it only allows me to import photos with f-spot
[08:19] <kelvin911> starcannon: because the font is fat and ugly in hardy
[08:20] <marupa> vylinx, Not pulling an IP from your router?
[08:20] <kelvin911> starcannon: i have to install kcontrol to change the font
[08:20] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: i dont know why
[08:20] <vylinx> no all is 0.0.0
[08:20] <starcannon> kelvin911 I don't know, I kept my home directory and so I kept my local usr settings, so my look and feel is hardly changed at all
[08:20] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: i am not using kubunut
[08:20] <drivetrax> IanClark,  You can install Gutsy, or Hardy from the internet
[08:21] <kelvin911> starcannon: but the san font hardy uses is different
[08:21] <marupa> vylinx, what IP are other computers on your router pulling?
[08:21] <kelvin911> starcannon: specially if it is bold
[08:21] <mosno> is security.ubuntu.com down for apt?
[08:21] <kelvin911> starcannon: it is like 3 times thicker
[08:21] <marupa> mosno, no, just laggy.  2 minutes about.
[08:21] <vylinx> 192.168.1.6 etc
[08:21] <marupa> vylinx, statically set?
[08:21] <mosno> marupa: ok. aptitude times out.
[08:21] <IanClark> drivetrax: I just want hardy to see my blank CD in the first place
[08:21] <kelvin911> starcannon:  i have to change the font to dejavu san
[08:21] <shiesty> brb
[08:21] <marupa> mosno, try again?  it happens when a new distro comes out.
[08:22] <vylinx> i rearranged interfaces
[08:22] <mosno> marupa: bummer
[08:22] <kelvin911> starcannon: but many app still shows ugly fat san
[08:22] <kuahara> marupa?
[08:22] <H264> mosno: you might want to switch to a different server anyway... I'm using a local server... much faster
[08:22] <marupa> vylinx, try statically assigning your computer's IP.
[08:22] <drivetrax> IanClark,  - is the drive listed in devices.. hardware information
[08:22] <kelvin911> starcannon: and i have to install kcontrol to change them, dont know why?
[08:22] <mosno> H264: a local server for SECURITY updates?
[08:22] <marupa> kuahara, I PM'd you.  are you reigstered/identified?
[08:22] <kelvin911> any expert here?
[08:22] <IanClark> drivetrax: I'll take a look
[08:22] <starcannon> kelvin911 i'm using arial font /shrug
[08:22] <marupa> kelvin911, what question?
[08:22] <vylinx> i tried it but not connects
[08:22] <H264> mosno: lol... local as in a server closer to you
[08:23] <kuahara> I am not registered
[08:23] <marupa> vylinx, try another network cable.
[08:23] <djhash> !register | kuahara
[08:23] <marupa> kuahara, register so you can get PMs.  it's free, and quick.
[08:23] <kelvin911> why changing the font in appearance dont change all the font in some app?
[08:23] <vylinx> i tried it at home n office
[08:23] <mosno> H264: back in Debian there was Only one security server. i didn't realise ubuntu did things differently
[08:23] <marupa> kelvin911, KDE vs Gnome?
[08:23] <kelvin911> like opera, k3b, terminal, etc
[08:23] <djhash> kuahara: type /msg nickserve register password
[08:23] <kuahara> I have no idea how to register
[08:23] <Jambon> why won't ubuntu show my camera in the file browser?
[08:23] <kuahara> ok
[08:23] <djhash> kuahara: type /msg nickserv register password
[08:23] <marupa> kelvin911, kde's themes aren't the same as gnome's themes.
[08:23] <mistiipu> how to clear arp. do i need that?
[08:23] <H264> mosno: let me check to make sure
[08:23] <shiesty> EDDIEEE
[08:23] <vylinx> and many people have this weird problem
[08:24] <groundzero>  YO shiesty Join #back
[08:24] <shiesty> GROUNDZERO U THI
[08:24] <kuahara> it set my mode to +e
[08:24] <marupa> vylinx, never had that issue.
[08:24] <kuahara> I guess that means I am registered?
[08:24] <vylinx> no ip on eth0
[08:24] <shiesty> ya i was gonna tell u to join another channel
[08:24] <kelvin911> why ubuntu dont come with kde theme control?
[08:24] <shiesty> ill do that 1
[08:24] <marupa> vylinx, try another ethernet cable?
[08:24] <raket> hey folks, my laptop won't recognize the livecd of Kubuntu, although the CD works in other computers. Is there a way to boot into it? under windows there was a nice option to add Kubuntu as a choice of OS in the F8 menu through Smart Boot Manager.. is there something similar under Kubuntu?
[08:24] <djhash> kuahara: yes you are..
[08:24] <kelvin911> or the appearance dont over ride the kde theme?
[08:24] <marupa> kelvin911, cause gnome is more popular.
[08:24] <starcannon> kelvin did you use kubuntu or just ubuntu?
[08:24] <vylinx> but gutsy connects with that cables
[08:24] <marupa> kelvin911, and because kde isn't gnome.
[08:24] <groundzero> shiesty /join #back
[08:24] <shiesty> #back
[08:24] <kelvin911> but why terminal's font can't be change in gnome ??
[08:24] <marupa> vylinx, could be IPv6.
[08:25] <kelvin911> is terminal kde app?
[08:25] <vylinx> i lost my many times on this issue
[08:25] <babolat> Jambon: why would u look for your camera in file browser?
[08:25] <kuahara> marupa do I put my actual IP in the IP address field in network settings or the 192.168.1.100 address?
[08:25] <marupa> kelvin911, gnome-terminal isn't.
[08:25] <shiesty> ight i am in their
[08:25] <vylinx> i did blacklist it too
[08:25] <kelvin911> marupa: what do u mean/
[08:25] <Jambon> babolat: CHDK
[08:25] <kelvin911> marupa: changing the font in appearance can't change the font terminal uses
[08:25] <starcannon> kelvin911 terminal fonts can be changed in gnome, in any dm actually, just have to run through a different rat maze depending on the desktop you like/run
[08:25] <marupa> kuahara, put something in there.  .101, .99, whatever.  Probably below 100 so it doesn't try to assign it somewhere else.
[08:26] <kelvin911> marupa: i have to change the font in kcontrol to change the font in terminal
[08:26] <Jambon> babolat: also, I like managing photos like that. f-spot is slow
[08:26] <H264> mosno: yeah, the server here in my town has security updates...
[08:26] <kelvin911> marupa: what?
[08:26] <marupa> kelvin911, use gnome-terminal.
[08:26] <kelvin911> marupa: is the terminal i am using noe gnome - terminal?
[08:26] <H264> mosno: deb http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ubuntu/ hardy-security universe
[08:26] <kelvin911> not*
[08:26] <vylinx> i tried battery pulling out too lol
[08:26] <frogscott> XDS2010 u there?
[08:26] <starcannon> kelvin911 in gnome terminal click edit --> current profile then mod till your content
[08:26] <Jambon> babolat: I want to install a firmware update on it and I can't do that without being able to see the filesystem on the card
[08:27] <kuahara> what should I enter for the gateway address
[08:27] <marupa> kelvin911, hit alt+f2, and type in gnome-terminal, and if it's different, then no, you weren't using gnome-terminal
[08:27] <marupa> kuahara, .1
[08:27] <IanClark> drivetrax: I can't seem to find it in Hardy
[08:27] <mosno> H264: is that on wiki.ubuntu.com or something
[08:27] <XDS2010> frogscott: YUP
[08:27] <djhash> 255.255.255.0 (or just click on it then tab out of it..)
[08:27] <drivetrax> IanClark,  system - preferences - hardware information (i think)
[08:27] <marupa> djhash, that's subnet mask.
[08:27] <XDS2010> <~ is here , all is well :) :P
[08:27] <frogscott> look in private
[08:27] <babolat> Jambon: more likely hardware problem. would it make a difference if u used a card reader instead of ur camera? coz that would save ur system a lot time and you effort. if you're trying to load unload photos.. as to firmware, what exactly is your cam?
[08:27] <djhash> oops... DOH!!!!!
[08:27] <kelvin911> marupa: it is the same
[08:28] <H264> mosno: no... well, maybe, I just selected the OSUOSL server from the servers list
[08:28] <kuahara> marupa, I did all that and lost my net connection
[08:28] <marupa> kuahara, make sure it's something like:
[08:28] <Jambon> babolat: canon a620
[08:28] <kelvin911> marupa: but the font didnt change
[08:28] <IanClark> drivetrax: it was there in 7.10
[08:28] <marupa> ip: 192.168.1.99, subnet mask: 255.255.255.0, gateway: 192.168.1.1
[08:28] <kelvin911> marupa: i have to change the font in kcontrol to make the font in terminal looks normal again
[08:28] <IanClark> drivetrax: but it's not there now.  I see nothing of the sort :S
[08:28] <H264> mosno: I checked my sources.list to make sure that everything was indeed coming from the server I thought it was coming from
[08:29] <marupa> kelvin911, go into the terminal settings, and change it there.
[08:29] <XDS2010> frogscott:  did you identify ? , no message from you :)
[08:29] <kuahara> changed it from 100 to 99 and it worked
[08:29] <mosno> H264: i mean i need to verify that its official
[08:29] <marupa> kuahara, now do the port forward to 192.168.1.99
[08:29] <kelvin911> marupa: i try, it is still ugly unless i change the font in kcontrol from "sans" to "dejavu sans"
[08:29] <kuahara> offtopic:  did you know that mcafee has no personal (or business) firewall solutions for 64 bit operating systems
[08:30] <marupa> kelvin911, go to edit, current profile, then change it from 'use the system fixed width font' to something you like.
[08:30] <H264> mosno: well... you could use the same server I'm using... OSU is the university, I know several of the people that run the servers...
[08:30] <kuahara> marupa saved
[08:30] <kelvin911> marupa: i did try that also
[08:30] <mistiipu> what i think now  is that. my pc. server. has saved some settings related to the old pc. and when i try to connect the new pc with same wire but (new pc has different lan card) it dont allows it?
[08:30] <mosno> H264: ok thanks
[08:30] <IanClark> drivetrax: would a lspci command work here?
[08:31] <marupa> kuahara, what was the IP again?  PM please.
[08:31] <casdf> hello; im working on installing ubuntu on a lenovo r61i, trying to dual boot it with vista
[08:31] <kelvin911> marupa: i try to change it to dejavu sans in terminal current profile but it is still fat and ugly
[08:31] <marupa> kelvin911, mine changes, so...dunno.  Is this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[08:31] <H264> mosno: and for officialness, its as official as official gets
[08:31] <H264> heh
[08:31] <Jambon> babolat: I don't understand what you mean by hardware problem. it works fine in windows
[08:31] <kelvin911> marupa: i change the font in kcontrol then terminal font become thinner and readable
[08:31] <casdf> there's a lenovo recovery partition, the vista partition, and the new ext3 and swap partitions that ubuntu is creating. will a bootloader mess up my ability to use the recovery partition?
[08:31] <H264> styles!!?
[08:31] <choudesh> Anyone know how to setup SNMP?
[08:31] <kelvin911> mine is upgrade through autoupdate
[08:32] <styles> H264: yes?
[08:32] <marupa> kelvin911, may have a glitch from updates.  I'd try fresh install.
[08:32] <H264> styles: do I know you?
[08:32] <styles> H264: no
[08:32] <kuahara> marupa done
[08:32] <kelvin911> marupa: does your hardy take longer to load the desktop?
[08:32] <kelvin911> marupa: mine takes extra 10 more seconds to load
[08:32] <marupa> kelvin911, nope.  faster.
[08:32] <mosno> choudesh: you need to do a lot of reading for that
[08:33] <choudesh> mosno, I have.
[08:33] <marupa> kuahara, responding.
[08:33] <H264> styles: hmm... ok, because I knew a guy with the nick styles here on IRC
[08:33] <kuahara> ok
[08:33] <starcannon> casdf i preserved the recovery partition on this hp laptop, it even shows up in grub, presumably I could turn this back into a windows laptop, but I've never tried that so I have no idea if it would work or not, I only kept it just in case I ever sell this thing on ebay when I'm done with it
[08:33] <kuahara> you logging in?
[08:33] <xiongchiamiov> does anyone know how to make nvidia drivers persist through a reboot?
[08:33] <styles> H264: Yeah I noticed. He has this name. I go by Styles__ usually now
[08:33] <marupa> kuahara, I don't have a username/password.
[08:33] <casdf> starcannon: did you install the bootloader from the ubuntu install though?
[08:33] <marupa> kuahara, maybe add one for me?
[08:34] <choudesh> mosno, In my snmpd.conf file I have the interfaces added that I want to grab statictics from. I can do this with IPTABLES but I want to use SNMP on this server. When I "snmpwalk" through the interfaces...I get end of MIBs
[08:34] <casdf> starcannon: because i fear that may prevent usage of the recovery software
[08:34] <starcannon> xiongchiamiov add "nvidia" without the quotes to your /etc/modules list
[08:34] <raziel> does anyone knows how to make my creative 7.1 speakers to work with my Audigy7.1 sound card? cos i get sound only from the front speakers
[08:34] <frogscott> XDS2010 can u come to message?
[08:34] <H264> Styles___: lol... ok, just checking
[08:34] <kuahara> PM'd you a login
[08:34] <kelvin911> marupa: then why ubuntu put upgrade button in autoupdate to trick us?
[08:34] <Styles___> np np
[08:34] <XDS2010> #message ?
[08:34] <kelvin911> marupa: feels like i am using windows again
[08:34] <Ashvala> @Kuahara No
[08:34] <marupa> kelvin911, it's buggy, and messy.  For some it works, for some it's buggy.
[08:35] <frogscott> Private
[08:35] <kuahara> ?
[08:35] <babolat> Jambon: u'll probably want to update firmware from Windows, coz from what i'm reading it aint easy
[08:35] <kelvin911> so piss now i dont wanna fresh reinstall now
[08:35] <XDS2010> frogscott:  go to #CO1
[08:35] <kuahara> ashvala ?
[08:35] <casdf> starcannon: and if i don't install the bootloader, how will i load up ubuntu on boot?
[08:35] <XDS2010> ill have a look at your current issues
[08:35] <XDS2010> ...there
[08:35] <mosno> choudesh: dunno man, worked for me first time. good luck
[08:35] <marupa> ok, in PM, kuahara, can you explain just what's going on that you need to do?
[08:35] <mosno> choudesh: maybe you install the MIB files separately
[08:35] <Jambon> babolat: it's ok. I cheated and used the computer's card reader
[08:36] <kelvin911> marupa: maybe wait until it is unusable like crashes everyday then i will try reininstall
[08:36] <zvacet> kelvin911 : maybe updates will take care of that
[08:36] <starcannon> casdf I did a full install of Ubuntu as soon as the laptop arrived by fedex, never even booted it into windows, during the install process I chose manual during the partitioning portion, and made sure to NOT delete or format the recovery partition, not sure if that answers your question but thats how I did it, I don't know if the recovery partition works or not, I will only try it when the computer is no longer useful to me
[08:36] <kelvin911> zvacet: when?
[08:36] <kelvin911> zvacet: when is the next update?
[08:36] <marupa> kelvin911, whenever.
[08:36] <kelvin911> zvacet: my hardy is kinda feel like win98
[08:36] <babolat> Jambon: so took the advice after all.. lol.. it's really much simpler. things would be better if these darn manufacturers started supporting opensource
[08:36] <frogscott> XDS im there how to login?
[08:37] <kelvin911> volume control will freezes and no sound randomly
[08:37] <zvacet> kelvin911 : I don´t know,but whenever new release is out you have to wait some time to be fixed
[08:37] <zimnyx> Is there alternative server for security.ubuntu.com ? I can't connect to it for some time...
[08:37] <casdf> starcannon: ok, thanks a lot. i'm gonna give it a try without the bootloader; worst case, i can set up the boot cmd under windows
[08:37] <IanClark> Hello all.  In k3b I get: "k3b did not find an optical writing device in your system."  Brasero detects no blank disk.  No blank disk icon on my desktop.  Blank disk in my CD-RW.  Any suggestions?
[08:38] <sriramoman> i feel firefox 3 becomes unstable after 2 weeks of continuous use, that is, when ~/.mozilla becomes around 100 MB in size. It becomes badly unresponsive.
[08:38] <zvacet> kelvin911 : you can check for updates every day
[08:38] <kelvin911> how to check it manually?
[08:38] <jescis> kelvin911: only gnome has two aplet bars, windows only has one task bar ;)
[08:38] <marupa> sriramoman, then shut it down?
[08:38] <sriramoman> kelvin911, Click check updates in update manager.
[08:38] <zimnyx> Can you connect to http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[08:38] <kelvin911> but my ubuntu will crashes randomly like win98
[08:39] <zvacet> kelvin911 : sudo apt-get update
[08:39] <kelvin911> and i have one panel haha
[08:39] <kelvin911> i remove the bottom panel
[08:39] <sriramoman> marupa, no. it does not crash and close, it becomes opening a tab or scroling takes tooooo much time
[08:39] <zvacet> kelvin911 : in KDE? good
[08:39] <kijoko> halo
[08:39] <kelvin911> zvacet: no
[08:39] <marupa> sriramoman, clear cache?
[08:39] <kijoko> need some help
[08:40] <kelvin911> zvacet: i am using gnome
[08:40] <steveCHG_afk> hello
[08:40] <starcannon> hiya steve
[08:40] <kelvin911> zvacet: i delete the bottom panel to make room for awn dock
[08:40] <steveCHG_afk> hi starcannon
[08:40] <drivetrax> IanClark,  type in a terminal -- lshw -short
[08:40] <zvacet> kelvin911 : sorry,my mistake
[08:40] <kijoko> my hardy installed on laptop but can't resume ( wake ) from suspend, any solution?
[08:40] <Artemis3> With Ubuntu 8.04 "The lower 64K of system memory is no longer addressable by default" fine... So where do i change it back? I need to test a wine issue.
[08:40] <kelvin911> i did run sudo apt-get update and now stuck
[08:40] <stv_ubun> i need some help about screen res
[08:40] <kelvin911> 99% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)]
[08:40] <zvacet> kelvin911: now I understand
[08:41] <drivetrax> lshw lists all hardware.
[08:41] <kelvin911> stuck at 99% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)]
[08:41] <kelvin911> ctrl C ??
[08:41] <zimnyx> I can't connect to this server
[08:41] <kelvin911> why hardy not running smooth?
[08:41] <sriramoman> marupa, doesnt help, as the cache is backed up in a folder "cache backup" if u make the .mozila folder smaller than 75 MB through manual deletion of files or total deletion of .mozilla (ouch0 it becomes completely responsive as new.
[08:42] <kelvin911> when i was in gutsy nothing went wrong
[08:42] <kijoko> i use gutsy before, and there's no problem with suspend/hibernate
[08:42] <marupa> sriramoman, use FF2?
[08:42] <kelvin911> now every once a while hardy fcuked up
[08:42] <zimnyx> kelvin911: you;re askjing to general questuionbs.... try forum
[08:42] <starcannon> kelvin911 theres a remedy for that :) you can always roll it back to gutsy :)
[08:42] <stv_ubun> may i know where i can get some help about screen res... thanks guys
[08:42] <sriramoman> marupa, FF2 dint have this probelem, i agree.
[08:42] <nano_> kelvin911: please be more specific
[08:42] <kelvin911> everything man everythiung
[08:43] <marupa> sriramoman, you can install FF2
[08:43] <kelvin911> randomly has no sound
[08:43] <kuahara> marupa, done typing up that encyclopedia of events
[08:43] <nano_> what program can i use in gnome to get an "Mac" type task bar in the bottom?
[08:43] <jescis> kelvin911: btw, I got rid of X, I went tty(teletype) and am happy :)
[08:43] <kelvin911> but i love the compiz
[08:43] <starcannon> nano_ avant windows navigator
[08:43] <kelvin911> thats why i move from xp to ubuntu
[08:44] <sriramoman> marupa, yes. i noticed in synaptic just now. Funny, right they install at least one beta software by default in each ver. of ubuntu ( in gutsy gimp was by default a beta one)
[08:44] <drivetrax> kelvin911,  - you moved to linux because of Windows
[08:44] <stv_ubun> my 19" mon said it cant support the res
[08:44] <kijoko> any solution for my trouble? hardy can't wake from resume/hibernate?
[08:44] <nano_> starcannon: this will give me an Apple type taskbar at the bottom of my screen?
[08:44] <kelvin911> no i move to ubuntu because it doesnt crash or lag
[08:44] <stv_ubun> i hv just updated the nvdia drivers
[08:44] <drivetrax> HAHA
[08:44] <vick1> I have a peculiar problem. I tried installing limewire from the installation package i downloaded from their website. while it was installing my laptop froze and since then, i keep trying to reinstall it but an error saying "i can only run 1 package installer at a  time" always pops up now
[08:44] <vick1> if anyone has time, i would appreciate the help =)
[08:44] <kelvin911> but hardy crashes 3 or 4 times for past 7 days
[08:44] <raziel> does anyone knows how to make my creative 7.1 speakers to work with my Audigy7.1 sound card? cos i get sound only from the front speakers
[08:45] <kuahara> vick1, how is your cpu doing
[08:45] <stv_ubun> hi kevin
[08:45] <mrpouet> hi
[08:45] <starcannon> nano_ yes, I recommend getting it from the avant site though (google it) because unless its changed there are no extras in the ubuntu repositories
[08:45] <stv_ubun> can u help me out?
[08:45] <vick1> lol as long as i ONLY surf the web
[08:45] <vick1> or use pidgeon
[08:45] <vick1> it doesnt over heat
[08:45] <kuahara> vick1
[08:45] <nano_> starcannon: thnx
[08:45] <kuahara> what temp is it atm
[08:45] <vick1> how do i check?
[08:45] <kelvin911> nano_: dont install the awn from ubuntu repos
[08:45] <nano_> starcannon: can the same thing be accomplished via compiz plugin
[08:45] <kelvin911> nano_: that one sucks
[08:45] <sriramoman> vick1, i think the limewire they give installs thru wine, like google picasa. and that ver. of limew. may not have been stable in wine?
[08:45] <nano_> thnx
[08:45] <stv_ubun> hi starcannon
[08:45] <starcannon> vick1 have you done a full reboot since then and tried again?
[08:45] <kuahara> can check in the bios, or if its an intel chip on an asus board you can use asus pc probe II, or cpu-z, etc...
[08:46] <stv_ubun> i hv been stuck for the past 10 hours
[08:46] <sriramoman> vick1, pls dont use enter as a puctuation mark.
[08:46] <vick1> yes i've done a full reboot
[08:46] <kuahara> if that cpu runs as hot as you're saying it is, then its only going to last a few weeks or months at best
[08:46] <stv_ubun> trying to get my screen res back
[08:46] <kelvin911> nano_: goto #awn the guys there will help u to get the latest awn
[08:46] <starcannon> nano_ compiz won't give you the dock, but it will allow you to run the dock
[08:46] <starcannon> hey stv_ubun
[08:46] <kuahara> you need a better cooling solution than you have
[08:46] <drivetrax> stv_ubun,  is low-res
[08:46] <blue-frog> in Hardy where is the file in which the screen resolution is indicated?
[08:46] <nano_> i will got to #awn
[08:46] <marupa> kuahara, I've PMed you.
[08:47] <stv_ubun> i got a blank screen now drivetrax
[08:47] <drivetrax> rut roh
[08:47] <vick1> kuahara, hm yeah i think i will just not run too many applications and be easy on it for now
[08:47] <drivetrax> stv_ubun,  yank out fglrx..
[08:47] <vick1> i am just going to buy the new eee pc i think
[08:47] <kuahara> vick1 that is not going to effect your cpu temp by a lot
[08:47] <nahedy> hi every one i have problem with debconf, i want before installing my debian questions to ask it before. while creating my debian package i added debian/config and debian/templates which allows me to ask questions. but when i do dpkg -i mypackage.deb it doesn't ask any questions. can u help me
[08:47] <vick1> oh really?
[08:47] <stv_ubun> drivetrax i m a complete linux idiot
[08:47] <kuahara> your idle and load temps are going to be different, but not THAT different
[08:47] <starcannon> stv_ubun http://pastebin.com/f4d1facb2 follow it to the letter and you should be golden
[08:47] <kuahara> i.e. its not going to cool from 90c under load to a safe idle temp
[08:47] <stv_ubun> ok
[08:47] <kuahara> if you ever hit 90c you are running dangerously hot
[08:48] <kelvin911> 90 degrees?
[08:48] <kuahara> I peronally don't like ever crossing 40c and with my lap, as5, and cnps9700, I idle at 27c
[08:48] <kelvin911> wow
[08:48] <vick1> kuahara, i dont know if it's actually at 90c? it's just that one line of text appeared on a black screen
[08:48] <vick1> as linux started shutting down
[08:48] <kelvin911> my cpu is about 30 degrees
[08:48] <kuahara> kelvin911, in farenheit, she is at 194
[08:48] <vick1> is there a way to check the bios for temp without restarting my cpu
[08:48] <kelvin911> who uses F?
[08:48] <chazco> Hi... I was watching a video and playback stopped... checked the processes and evolution-data-server (i think) was using 100% CPU. Any ideas? Regretting upgrading to 8.04 with all these issues :(
[08:48] <kelvin911> everyone talks in C
[08:48] <vick1> americans use fahrenheit
[08:48] <kuahara> not me, just saying
[08:49] <kuahara> I am american, but yea
[08:49] <starcannon> lol 90c would be 194 degrees fahrenheit
[08:49] <kelvin911> americans are stupid anyway
[08:49] <kuahara> vick1, any time we're talking cpu and/or gpu temps its in C
[08:49] <vick1> oh okay thanks
[08:49] <kuahara> and 90C is fing insane
[08:49] <vick1> lol
[08:49] <kelvin911> who uses F and miles?
[08:49] <kelvin911> r they dumb or something?
[08:49] <vick1> actually my cpu's been overheating for a year now... and only recently did i switch to linux and i finally knew how bad it was
[08:49] <starcannon> kuahara if it were a laptop somebodied be havin a weenie roast ;P
[08:49] <ariqs> when i hit ctr-z in a terminal, the process stops, but it keeps taking up memory. how do I get rid of it altogether?
[08:50] <vick1> windows xp never told me...it was overheating like linux does
[08:50] <kelvin911> how to check CPU temp in ubuntu?
[08:50] <kuahara> vick1, most OS's don't
[08:50] <ApranaX> .
[08:50] <ApranaX> S.a
[08:50] <kelvin911> i can only check cpu temp with asus probe in xp
[08:50] <kuahara> you have to check that yourself with a 3rd party app
[08:50]  * stv_ubun fainted looking at those lines drivetrax
[08:50] <djhash> ariqs: use the kill command
[08:50] <kuahara> kelvin because you have an asus mobo
[08:50] <kuahara> I use that as well
[08:50] <kelvin911> how to get those 3rd party software?
[08:50] <kuahara> 27C idle here and 33C under load.  Thats with an E8400 overclocked to 3.6GHz from 3.0
[08:51] <marupa> kuahara, they have probes in ubuntu
[08:51] <marupa> kuahara, I'm on asus, but I've got probes running right now.
[08:51] <kelvin911> anal probe?
[08:51] <drivetrax> hahaha
[08:51] <kelvin911> how to get the probe in ubuntu?
[08:51] <kuahara> kelvin, a probe talks to the thermal sensor on your mobo and/or cpu
[08:51] <marupa> kuahara, gkrellm
[08:51] <Daremonai> I have a nokia N73, and i would like to send smses from my laptop (bluetooth + nokia pc suite is how i do it on windows) is there a way of doing it on linux?
[08:51] <drivetrax> hahahaha
[08:51] <dermoth> Artemis3 is you can manage to stay on I'll reply ;)
[08:51] <starcannon> chuckle snort
[08:51] <userlol> does hardy freeze up when using firefox3 for anyone else here? it happens to me constantly
[08:52] <Artemis3> dermoth, please do
[08:52] <kelvin911> seriously ubuntu need software like sandra pro in windows
[08:52] <dermoth> Artemis3, s/is/if/
[08:52] <marupa> kelvin911, gkrellm
[08:52] <ApranaX> hahahah
[08:52] <kijoko> ﻿Daremonai: use gokii
[08:52] <ApranaX> :D
[08:52] <kuahara> kelvin, I was commenting because earlier she said that she wanted to disable thermtrip because her comp kept shutting off at 90c
[08:52] <kelvin911> what?
[08:52] <kijoko> ﻿Daremonai: use gnokii
[08:52] <dermoth> Artemis3, look at /etc/sysctl.conf line 18
[08:52] <djhash> Daremonai: have you checked to see if nokia has a linux version of the suite
[08:52] <kuahara> if she disables thermtrip there's a good chance its getting even hotter than that
[08:52] <marupa> kelvin911, use gkrellm for that sort of thing.
[08:52] <kelvin911> gkrellm otr gokii?
[08:52] <kijoko> gnokii
[08:52] <Daremonai> kijoko: yeah i have the website open, but i was reading that it's still in development.
[08:52] <starcannon> userlol not here, I think FF3 is bloated and a bit slower than FF2 but no crashing and none of the other weird stuff thats been plaguing so many others, I did fresh clean install though
[08:53] <kuahara> kelvin911, ever bother checking your 3d mark scores?
[08:53] <Daremonai> djhash, they don't as far as i know
[08:53] <kelvin911> yes
[08:53] <kelvin911> how?
[08:53] <kuahara> I hit 15,195 in 3dMark06
[08:53] <kuahara> 2x 9600GT in SLi
[08:53] <kelvin911> i am not in windows now
[08:53] <zyx386> how can i fix this error http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212520/ ?
[08:53] <kelvin911> i dont run those 3dmark no more
[08:53] <Artemis3> dermoth, thats what im looking for, going to test :)
[08:53] <kelvin911> i just run the games and see how it runs
[08:53] <dermoth> Artemis3, this relates to /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr
[08:53] <kelvin911> usually 3dmark is not accuarate
[08:54] <starcannon> kuahara I have a 2x7950 gt in SLi hows those 9600's ? they sound sweet
[08:54] <Lapinux> anyone familiar with mdadm that can tell me the best way to make sure mdadm --monitor is always running?
[08:54] <dermoth> Artemis3, you can echo data directly to it, or use the sysctl utility to make it the default on bootup
[08:54] <kuahara> star, I need a 680i or better mobo because I am selling myself short
[08:54] <kelvin911> so what is that software to check temp again?
[08:54] <kuahara> the memory controller on the asus p5n-e 650i board sucks nuts
[08:54] <kelvin911> gknkill?
[08:54] <starcannon> nod bottlenecks suck
[08:55] <kuahara> can't handle 4 dimms of anything and 2x pcie slots @ 8x
[08:55] <kuahara> instead of 2x 16
[08:55] <vick1> kuahara, i tried cleaning it out an hour ago, i think it's just my fan is broken. do you think it'll be expensive to fix?
[08:55] <drivetrax> a moo-like program for linux
[08:55] <kuahara> vick1, what mobo/cpu do you have?
[08:55] <vick1> hp dv1000
[08:55] <vick1> bought 3 years ago
[08:55] <kuahara> if you are running everything at stock speed and just do crap like web browsing and light gaming...
[08:55] <kuahara> is it an intel processor?
[08:55] <kuahara> too lazy to look it up
[08:55] <vick1> yep
[08:56] <Winchester> choccollatte
[08:56] <starcannon> vick1 a replacement fan likely cost $50 or so, plus installation (unless you do it yourself) a new laptop on the cheap is around $500
[08:56] <kuahara> I think I have a stock HSF for that if you want it
[08:56] <kuahara> lemme check rq
[08:56] <kuahara> I never use that crap
[08:56] <Winchester> choocollatte
[08:56] <vick1> starcannon, yeah maybe i will just get a new laptop
[08:56] <kuahara> vick1, did you make sure you didn't just unplug the fan?
[08:56] <vick1> been eyeing the eee pc
[08:56] <vick1> yeah i had this computer tech guy look at it
[08:56] <userlol> starcannon yeah this is off a fresh install too
[08:56] <kuahara> vick1, is this on a laptop or your desktop that your fan broke?
[08:56] <vick1> laptop
[08:56] <kuahara> o
[08:57] <student> anyone can help me how to install a software?
[08:57] <vick1> i think i fried my harddrive over the year too
[08:57] <kuahara> the HSF I have is for desktop CPU's
[08:57] <starcannon> userlol weird then I don't know, I'm just lucky i guess hehe
[08:57] <eradicor> Is there anyway to set trash bin so that when i delete file it is just deleted and not put into trashbin at all?
[08:57] <kijoko> hardy heron can't resume from Suspend/hibernate
[08:57] <vick1> because he took my harddrive and put it in his laptop and he couldnt get windows xp on it. kept shutting off
[08:57] <kijoko> help me
[08:57] <student> anyone can help me how to install a software?
[08:57] <kuahara> you can definitely replace the fan for your laptop CPU real cheap if you get one on ebay
[08:57] <kuahara> do you have experience taking apart/rebuilding laptops?
[08:57] <vick1> hmm okay thanks for hte suggestion
[08:57] <student> anyone can help me how to install a software?
[08:57] <starcannon> student System--Administration-->Synaptic
[08:58] <kuahara> if not, just pay the tech to do it or bag the thing and get a new laptop
[08:58] <student> no i only download it
[08:58] <vick1> very minimal, ill be having my friend help me whos a lot more knowledgable about taking apart laptops
[08:58] <chazco> I'm planning to reinstall XP on my laptop (replacing Hardy) to prevent damage and avoid some of the more recent bugs. Before i do, is there any easy way to downgrade to Gusty (which worked better)?
[08:58] <kuahara> friend of mine is selling a 4 month old Inspiron 1501 for $400 if you want it
[08:58] <starcannon> student the place you got it from didn't have install instructions with it? is it a .deb?
[08:58] <marupa> OK, all.  I've gotta go sleep.  Got work in the morning.
[08:59] <drivetrax> Chazco ------ DOWNgrades are not supported
[08:59] <vick1> hmm thanks kuahara but i think i might want the eee pc
[08:59] <student> no it is not a deb its a tar.
[08:59] <kuahara> 160GB HDD, 1GB of PC5400 mem, AMD turion 64 2.0GHz cpu, 256MB ATI adapter
[08:59] <chazco> drivetrax - Ah, pity... may try installing it from fresh (i have a separate /home)
[08:59] <kuahara> $400 and its practically brand new
[08:59] <starcannon> chazco if yo have /home on its own partition then downgrading is as easy as putting the gutsy cd in the tray and doing fresh install... if you don't have /home on its own partition then its gonna be a bit more of a chore
[08:59] <vido> hi all i wish you a good morning
[08:59] <polterge|st> well this is interesting to say the least
[08:59] <gordonjcp> vido: morning
[08:59] <polterge|st> I have Ubuntu up and working
[08:59] <drivetrax> best bet , you do chazco
[09:00] <chazco> starcannon -  I have a separate /home in it
[09:00] <polterge|st> on account of having a virus in ms
[09:00] <chazco> How long will Gusty be supported?
[09:00] <polterge|st> and I happen to really like Ubuntu
[09:00] <IanClark> drivetrax: OK I got lshw - short run here
[09:00] <polterge|st> although this is 6.10
[09:00] <polterge|st> can't wait for 8.x
[09:00] <starcannon> student unpack the tar (r-click it and extract here) and read any "readme" files or other documentation thats in there
[09:00] <drivetrax> IanClark,  you got a CD drive listed
[09:00] <polterge|st> must get a wifi setup to download it soon
[09:01] <polterge|st> was actually just looking to get on the net so I could fix my other setup but this may become permenant
[09:01] <polterge|st> I am liking it
[09:01] <IanClark> drivetrax: how do I do the test from here?  lspci?  It's a pci drive
[09:01] <starcannon> chazco if /home is on its own partition then you can install any ubuntu version you want, just be sure to use manual partition manager, which you'd have had to do to have a seperate /home to begin with, and dont format /home anyway you get the picture no?
[09:01] <chazco> starcannon - Yep... like an upgrade in reverse really
[09:02] <kuahara> ok, I am giving up on rescuing all my data
[09:02] <starcannon> chazco egg-zack-ery
[09:02] <drivetrax> neat to overlay..an install
[09:02] <vslice> i was wondering if anyone knew how to auto mount harddrives onto desktop icons
[09:02] <Bjbbop> hello to all
[09:02] <IanClark> drivetrax: I don't know what command to do from here.
[09:02] <vido> is there is a way to share the speed of the dsl line bet. 2 p.cs by equality?
[09:02] <Bjbbop> can someone tell me pls what is this keyring for ???
[09:02] <kuahara> anyone able to tell me how to start from scratch and create 3 new partitions on my HDD and scrap whatever is already there?
[09:03] <blue-frog> in hardy, what file contains the screen resolution of my computer?
[09:03] <kuahara> I want to set aside 100GB for Win xp 32 bit, 35GB for Ubuntu, and the rest for NTFS file storage
[09:03] <kuahara> how do I make this happen
[09:03] <starcannon> Bjbbop stores frequently used passwords in the desktop manager, things like wifi passwords I think pgp keys, stuff like that
[09:03] <IanClark> drivetrax: OK I did the pci test
[09:03] <student> how to use install-sh file
[09:03] <student> how to use install-sh file
[09:03] <frogscott1> XDS u see me?
[09:04] <vslice> how do u get hd's auto mounted on the desktop?
[09:04] <student_> how to use install-sh file
[09:04] <student> how to use install-sh file
[09:04] <student_> how to use install-sh file
[09:04] <kuahara> am going to laugh at you when you get kicked / banned
[09:04] <IanClark> drivetrax: when I boot my computer I get a "device...unknown header type 7f".  are my bios settings messed up?
[09:04] <starcannon> blue-frog hardy still has an xorg.conf file, and you can still manipulate it in the same ways, there is also a gui tool in System-Preferences-Screen Resolution
[09:04] <ere4si> !repeat | student
[09:04] <vido> i think ./install-sh
[09:05] <blue-frog> starcannon: that'is my question where is the resolution kept? (not in xorg.conf anymore)
[09:05] <vido> is there is a way to share the speed of the dsl line bet. 2 p.cs by equality
[09:05] <starcannon> student, after you have read the associated texts that were in the tar then open a terminal to the same folder the install-sh is in and type ./install-sh or if required sudo ./install-sh
[09:06] <drivetrax> IanClark,  - Hardy Heron : All the privileges can be configured using the Applications / System / Authorizations interface, which itself uses PolicyKit for authorizing the changes.
[09:06] <kuahara> I used GNU Parted to rescue a partition at 16709 - 30401.  How do I view the data in this partition?
[09:06] <eradicor> i mean is there any way to disable that darned trash bin
[09:06] <Bjbbop> tell me please
[09:06] <vslice> how do u get hd's auto mounted on the desktop?
[09:06] <prodigel> Hi all. I've installed ocsinventory-agent package and when setting up the packages it never succeeds, thus I'm always forced to Ctrl+c the step to continue the rest of the install/upgrade. Can I somehow tell apt to skip setting that package?
[09:06] <starcannon> blue-frog not sure about where "configured hardware" files are stowed, but you can put modelines in xorg.conf like we always have
[09:06] <Bjbbop> Ctrl+Alt+DEl in windows how do i do it on linux
[09:06] <Bjbbop> i have one program i cannot close
[09:06] <gd1> hi, how can I set ubuntu to automatically install ALL updates without bothering me?
[09:07] <starcannon> Bjbbpop in terminal xkill and click on the nasty window
[09:07] <drivetrax> IanClark,  - You got an XFCE, manager anywhere?
[09:07] <prodigel> Bjbbop: ctrl+alt+backspace resets your X server
[09:07] <gd1> when I say "all" I mean security, kernel images, to the least important package
[09:07] <gd1> *everything*
[09:07] <vslice> how do u get hd's auto mounted on the desktop?
[09:07] <nol1fe> vslice: google for gconf-editor there are some nautilus settings you are interested in
[09:07] <vido> is there is a way to share the speed of the dsl line bet. 2 p.cs by equality
[09:08] <IanClark> drivetrax: I'm on gnome desktop
[09:08] <gd1> nobody knwos
[09:08] <vslice> how do u get hd's auto mounted on the desktop?
[09:08] <gd1> *knows
[09:09] <vido> is there is a way to share the speed of the dsl line bet. 2 p.cs by equality
[09:09] <casdf> hi; im trying to get ubuntu to dualboot with vista, is there something i can edit in vista to accomplish this?
[09:09] <starcannon> vido probably requires a bit of networking protocol or build your own router
[09:09] <boomshakalaka> after upgrading to hardy, compiz doesn't start automatically anymore....what is the proper way to enable it on startup?
[09:09] <nol1fe> eradicor: you can directly delete without the trash-can, i have seen a setting somewhere in gconf-editor to enable this
[09:09] <osfameron> my iw4965 wireless card occasionally soils itself and stops working.  The only difference in lspci -vv seems to be that it lists "SERR+" instead of "SERR-" and the IRQ routing has changed.  Any suggestions?
[09:09] <starcannon> vido or you can just hit your room mate over the head with a pan and use all the bandwidth ;)
[09:09] <ere4si> vslice: type   gconf-editor in a terminal - then browse to apps - nautilus - and select show volumes'
[09:10] <student> starcannon, how to find the directory?
[09:10] <student>  how to find the directory?
[09:10] <eradicor> thanks nol1fe  , ill check it out
[09:10] <nano_> what is better, kiba-doc or awn?
[09:10] <fanch_> hi
[09:10] <vido> actually he is my nebougher and he is a good guy
[09:10] <gd1> ok thanks however
[09:10] <fanch_> apparently i cannot join ubuntu-fr... anyone knows why ?
[09:10] <drivetrax> lol.. i'm tanking.. sleepy
[09:10] <starcannon> student what piece of software are you trying to install?
[09:10] <Cyber_Stalker> how is ubuntu these days
[09:10] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[09:11] <Cyber_Stalker> has it improved since the last release yet?
[09:11] <Bjbbop> thank you guys for your ensewr
[09:11] <starcannon> Cyber_Stalker never better
[09:11] <student> starcannon, how to find the directory?
[09:11] <nol1fe> eradicor: checkout what ere4si said to vslice. it's around there somewhere
[09:11] <vslice> ere4si: do u mean volumes visible?
[09:11] <Cyber_Stalker> starcannon but better then old?
[09:11] <ere4si> vslice: yep
[09:11] <vslice> it already is
[09:11] <student> starcannon, how to find the directory?
[09:11] <starcannon> Cyber_Stalker in my opinion yes, but to those who always lament leaving egypt no ;)
[09:11] <fanch_> Cyber_Stalker: what is the last version according to you ?
[09:11] <netcrusher88> question re: the textmode installer - if you select encrypted LVM, is it LUKS or just generic dm-crypt?
[09:11] <Cyber_Stalker> umm fanch_
[09:11] <vslice> i thought u have to do something with /etc/fstab?
[09:11] <Cyber_Stalker> what version are we on now?
[09:12] <ere4si> vslice: it shows volumes mounted in /media - where are yours mounted
[09:12] <kuahara> bleh..parted magic is confusing me.  What numbers do I use if I want a 100GB partition set aside (102400MB).  I want this to be NTFS formatted
[09:12] <fanch_> Cyber_Stalker: hardy heron
[09:12] <starcannon> student in terminal cd /home/student/somefolder/where/program/is
[09:12] <kuahara> its asking for free space preceding, new size, and following
[09:12] <Cyber_Stalker> 7.7?
[09:12] <Cyber_Stalker> or is that 8.8
[09:12] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[09:12] <vslice> in media
[09:12] <netcrusher88> nevermind, it's LUKS, just found the thing
[09:12] <student> starcannon, a cracker software. you can find it in. www.ophcrack.sourceforge.net
[09:12] <starcannon> Cyber_Stalker 8.04
[09:12] <Cyber_Stalker> is current
[09:12] <Cyber_Stalker> i think last i used was 7
[09:12] <student> starcannon, a cracker software. you can find it in. www.ophcrack.sourceforge.net
[09:13] <Cyber_Stalker> oh well let me go find a freedomtoaster
[09:13] <kuahara> ok, scratch that, I figured out what it was wanting
[09:13] <Cyber_Stalker> install it on old box
[09:13] <vslice> i have to manually click on places and then the hd to make the icon appear
[09:13] <kuahara> what fs does ubuntu use?
[09:13] <vslice> i want the icon to appear auto when i start ubuntu
[09:13] <boomshakalaka> anyone know the "proper" way to enable compiz at startup?
[09:13] <fanch_> Cyber_Stalker: i think the best thing to do is to try a live cd and make up your own opinion
[09:13] <thierry> someone deoes know how to install wma plugin on mozilla?
[09:14] <NET||abuse> boomshakalaka, enable desktop effects in the Preferences
[09:14] <kuahara> will the ubuntu installer offer to format the partition for me?
[09:14] <ere4si> vslice: just drag the icon from places onto the desktop
[09:14] <kuahara> like windows dos
[09:14] <kuahara> does
[09:14] <nol1fe> kuahara: yap
[09:14] <vslice> but it wont mount the next time i restart
[09:14] <starcannon> boomshakalaka if you enable it from System-Preferences-Appearance menu it will remember the setting for you
[09:14] <kuahara> is any one fs better than another
[09:14] <blankthemuffin> boomshakalaka, System > prefrences > Sessions
[09:14] <vido>  hey guys no one knows if there is a way to share the speed of the dsl line bet. 2 p.cs by equality
[09:14] <vslice> no sorry
[09:14] <kuahara> vido, thats kind of a complex thing to do
[09:14] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, there's no need to add to sesisons, it is part of the ubuntu desktop now
[09:15] <ere4si> vslice: ahh - have you got an entry in /etc/fstab for them ?
[09:15] <boomshakalaka> thank you
[09:15] <student> starcannon did you get it?
[09:15] <starcannon> kuahara its subjective, many have their pros and cons, but mostly it really comes down to using the right tool for the job your doing
[09:15] <vslice> yes
[09:15] <ere4si> !who | vslice
[09:15] <vido> good then it`s dobel
[09:15] <langenberg> I installed Ubuntu 8.04 and noticed there is no /usr/X11R6/include directory, which development package should I install?
[09:15] <starcannon> student no, not interested in it
[09:15] <kuahara> starcannon really, I'm just a linux noob and this installation is going to be like me at age 10 when I was fiddling with dos
[09:15] <NET||abuse> boomshakalaka, so if you want the advanced configuration to bling it up somewhat, then apt-get ccsm
[09:15] <WildChild7> hello guys!!
[09:15] <langenberg> I like to compile something against Xlib.
[09:15] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   Description with paste.
[09:15] <vslice> ere4si: yes i tried following a wiki but it still didnt do it
[09:15] <kuahara> one thing I would like to try out is that cubic desktop thing
[09:16] <fanch_> sorry for asking again.... but anyone knows why i cannot join ubuntu-fr ?
[09:16] <fanch_> is the channel closed or something ?
[09:16] <starcannon> kuahara ext3 is a good solid desktop fs choice
[09:16] <kuahara> kk, thx
[09:16] <ere4si> vslice: can you paste the /etc/fstab file?
[09:16] <ere4si> !paste | vslice
[09:16] <student> starcannon did you get it?
[09:16] <student> starcannon. what if the file is located in the document folder? can it be install?
[09:16] <NET||abuse> I have a server with 2 plain old sata 300GB drives, i want to mirror the system drive across to the spare drive, just to backup
[09:16] <boomshakalaka> NET||abuse: thanks I had all that in gutsy...it seems the upgrade to hardy turned off the option in the appearance menu
[09:16] <herbaliser> anybody that can tell me how to setup tty logging for all sessions or point me to software that can do this
[09:16] <NET||abuse> at present the system doesn't mount the second drive
[09:16] <cuonglb> be back :D
[09:17] <NET||abuse> what is the best way to go about configuring a backup solution in this situation?
[09:17] <marko-_-> does someone know why on hardy under "apperiance" and then the tab "effects" i can't choose custom only extra ?
[09:17] <NET||abuse> boomshakalaka, glad to be of assistance
[09:17] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, so the full compiz-fusion is included with 8.04?
[09:17] <adam7> anyone know how to get my external usb drives to sync/unmount before I suspend? as it is, suspending is just like unplugging them from the wall
[09:17] <starcannon> student I'd like to help, but you are asking me to help you install something you called crack software, you don't know how to even change directories, I am a bit concerned that I would not be doing you any favors on this one, I respectfully decline to assist you in this project
[09:17] <timob> how do i fix alsamixer and alsactl after upgrading to hardy from gutsy?
[09:17] <crdlb> marko-_-: it doesn't really matter which one you choose, but now custom only shows up if you install simple-ccsm
[09:17] <WildChild7> I have just installed ubuntu, and my monitor is at resolution 1280x024 and 60HZ. I would lile to be at resolution at 1024x768 and 85HZ but I don't know how to change it, since in xorg.conf there is no stuff..http://pastebin.ca/1009957 can someone help me out. Or I should go to previous release hutsy ?
[09:17] <vslice> ere4si: i pasted it
[09:17] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, for values of "full" yes, where full = normal effects set
[09:17] <herbaliser> anybody that can tell me how to setup tty logging for all sessions or point me to software that can do this
[09:18] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, if you want the super crazy non-official plugins you have to add packages, as well as ccsm
[09:18] <ere4si> vslice: you need to give the url for it - the web address
[09:18] <timob> !alsa
[09:18] <langenberg> Is there some xorg-dev package that will ad /usr/X11R6/include ?
[09:18] <marko-_-> crdlb, but yesterday compiz worked great... i could choose custom and all the others... but then it just shutdown and now i'm stuck with this "extra" effects...
[09:18] <eradicor> nol1fe , cant find trash bin related stuff from the conf :S
[09:18] <nol1fe> WildChild7: Preferences > Screen resolution i think
[09:18] <Klarth> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
[09:18] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, but for basic cube spinning/desktop wall switchers etc,, it's included in the system->prefs->appearance settins
[09:18] <crdlb> marko-_-: custom will only appear if simple-ccsm is installed
[09:18] <oddalot> hi, "ifconfig" command doesn't tell me my ip address anywhere, how do i find it......both computers on my network are giving me the same address with /dns on irc???
[09:18] <crdlb> not compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:18] <vslice> ere4si: sorry im new to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10695/
[09:19] <Klarth> I'm in the livecd right now for the most recent ubuntu
[09:19] <ere4si> vslice: np :)
[09:19] <nol1fe> eradicor: hang on, i 'll check. . have to ssh home to get an ubuntu at my fingertips ;)
[09:19] <kuahara> oddalot, www.whatismyipaddress.com
[09:19] <Klarth> I have it installed on my HDD
[09:19] <Klarth> For some reason grub just stuffed up
[09:19] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, ah ok, thought it was something like that.
[09:19] <student> starcannon, i know how to use the software..dont worry
[09:19] <WildChild7>  nol1fe I've tryed that change it to 1024x768 and it gives me automatically 85HZ but when I restart X. It throws me at 800x600 and xorg.conf get nasty..
[09:19] <Klarth> I don't know why it's stopped working
[09:19] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   I removed powernowd and installed cpufreqd on this PC the other day, worked fine until a reboot when I now get this message and neither of them work, ideas?
[09:19] <marko-_-> crdlb, yes i installed it now it works... but yesterday it WASN'T installed and it worked too... and custom was listed under effects too... i just want to know why this happen all of a sudden... but anyway now it works... so thanks
[09:19] <erUSUL> oddalot: the one of your router; that's the only ip public on your network
[09:19] <oddalot> kuahara both of my computers say the same thing when i do that....i thought two computers on the same network can't have the same ip?
[09:19] <harrydg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775642
[09:19] <harrydg> try solving this! ;)
[09:19] <crdlb> marko-_-: you were on gutsy? :)
[09:19] <Klarth> argh, you guise are niggas
[09:19] <ramukmar> klarth: what happens when you try booting then?
[09:19] <starcannon> student if your savvy enough to use Open Source crack tools, then your ahead of me, and I'll be asking you questions lol, nah, go bone up on your cli
[09:19] <kuahara> oddalot, I'm guessing they are both behind the same router
[09:20] <marko-_-> crdlb, yes then i did a clean install
[09:20] <Klarth> grub error 22
[09:20] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, just that you really don't have to add compiz to the session startup list at all, it's started by ubuntu desktop settings when you select it, and it will tie in with all the extra plugins and settings you add through the other packages
[09:20] <oddalot> erUSUL, i set up an apache server, how do i access it from another computer?
[09:20] <student> starcannon, what is that?
[09:20] <ere4si> can someone that mounts ntfs partitions check this please - http://paste.ubuntu.com/10695/
[09:20] <nol1fe> WildChild7: screen and graphics under administration
[09:20] <crdlb> marko-_-: you were on gutsy yesterday?
[09:20] <marko-_-> no on hardy heron
[09:20] <starcannon> student egg-zack-ery
[09:20] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, yeah looking at mine it's automatic too. :P
[09:21] <kuahara> man
[09:21] <Klarth> GRUB 22 HOWDOIFIXIT?
[09:21] <erUSUL> oddalot: ifconfig does tell you your local ip so you can access it from your other computer on the lan. if you want to made it accesible to internet you have to set up port forwarding on the router
[09:21] <Klarth> kgo!
[09:21] <vslice> ere4si: thanx
[09:21] <shiesty> groundzero
[09:21] <ramukmar> klarth: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749
[09:21] <NET||abuse> ere4si, add user to the 4th column
[09:21] <groundzero> join /#back
[09:21] <kuahara> microsoft should be embarassed that it took.. and I do mean required... linux software to fix their bugs
[09:21] <NET||abuse> ere4si, you need to make the drive user accessible
[09:21] <Klarth> Thanks ramukmar, btw nice palendrome
[09:21] <WildChild7> nol1fe: I have xubuntu and I have to run it through command line: gksu displayconfig-gtk
[09:21] <oddalot> erUSUL i did set up portfowarding, but ifconfig tells me nothing about my ipaddress
[09:21] <WildChild7> nol1fe: but it's the same
[09:21] <ere4si> NET||abuse: it is for vslice
[09:21] <student> starcannon, what that?
[09:21] <IanClark> drivetrax: I've opened up my box and it looks like an IDE or SATA slot.
[09:22] <adam7> Klarth: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749
[09:22] <crdlb> marko-_-: not sure then; the code is pretty straightforward: it just checks that /usr/bin/simple-ccsm exists and is executable
[09:22] <kuahara> fack...
[09:22] <erUSUL> oddalot: please paste the output of ifconfig -a on a pastebin
[09:22] <kuahara> if I just started a format, what happens if I reset the pc in the middle of it? lol
[09:22] <marko-_-> crdlb, ok... well thanks for the help
[09:22] <erUSUL> !pastebin | oddalot
[09:22] <adam7> oops, too slow :)
[09:22] <ere4si> vslice: add user to the forth column - -/dev/hda1 /media/Windows ntfs defaults user 0 0
[09:22] <ramukmar> klarth: your boot record is corrupted, google for that error and you'll find some help
[09:22] <kuahara> I am formatting a partition that is way too big
[09:22] <ere4si> vslice: for both ntfs
[09:22] <WildChild7> ka je zej marko-_- !!! pomagi mi instalerat driveje za SiS 360 grafcino :;)
[09:22] <oddalot> erUSUL http://pastebin.com/m35b3ddf5
[09:22] <NET||abuse> ere4si, vslice: i think it may be /dev/hda1 /media/Windows ntfs defaults,user 0 0  note the comma seperated values rather than spaces
[09:23] <kuahara> guess I'm about to find out
[09:23] <ere4si> thnx NET||abuse
[09:23] <WildChild7> anyone ?
[09:23] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   I removed powernowd and installed cpufreqd on this PC the other day, worked fine until a reboot when I now get this message and neither of them work, ideas?
[09:23] <vslice> ere4si,NET||abuse: thanx alot
[09:24] <ere4si> np
[09:24] <NET||abuse> np
[09:24] <erUSUL> oddalot: >>>>>> inet addr:192.168.1.100 <<<<< line 2
[09:24] <ere4si> vslice: reboot to s\check it works
[09:24] <student> starcannon, its a software not a command
[09:24] <ere4si> *check
[09:24] <ramukmar> klarth: also more help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624118
[09:25] <nol1fe> eradicor: found something through the menus... open a nautilus browser, edit, preferences, behaviour tab tick "include a delete command that bypasses Trash".
[09:25] <oddalot> erUSUL what is the ip address i would use to connect from a computer outside this network?
[09:25] <marko-_-> WildChild7, nevem
[09:25] <WildChild7> marko-_-: n000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[09:26] <Klarth> grub> setup (hd0)
[09:26] <kuahara> #%@$*@&*^(#&^^#%@^*#%^*!#$!#$@^$
[09:26] <PaulBrando> Does anyone here use the Rhythmbox last.fm plugin here? Seems to not work
[09:26] <Klarth> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[09:26] <kuahara> Microsoft pisses me off so fing bad
[09:26] <XDS2010> whats the file in ubuntu that controls user permissions ?
[09:26] <Klarth> Paullbrando: SOLUTION, USE AMAROK
[09:26] <erUSUL> oddalot: if you set up port forwarding on the router (port 80 of the router forwarded to port 80 of 192.168.1.100) then it should be the public ip address (the one you see in whatsmyip.com for example)
[09:26] <adam7> !caps | Klarth
[09:26] <starcannon> PaulBrando I used LastFM with AWN awhile back, I switched to Streamtuner and xmms though
[09:27] <hellsadvocate> I love ubuntu.
[09:27] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: it works fine for me here
[09:27] <hellsadvocate> it is sex.
[09:27] <Klarth> adam7, gotta feel useful eh?
[09:27] <erUSUL> oddalot: also make sure apache is listening on 192.168.1.100 port 80 on the machine it is instaled on
[09:27] <hellsadvocate> after all that customization...
[09:27] <PaulBrando> klarth: If I'm going to use Amarok, I might as well switch to KDE. I'm getting there...
[09:27] <kuahara> ok, I just used Parted Magic to create 3 partitions. 1 is 100GB NTFS format, another is 35GB ext3 format, and the other is 98GB or whatever was left over which is also NTFS format
[09:27] <starcannon> hellsadvocate whats not to like :)
[09:27] <adam7> Klarth: this channel becomes impossible to read unless people follow the rules.
[09:27] <eradicor> nol1fe, thanks.. i'll check it out
[09:27] <hellsadvocate> seriously. With compiz this things whips vista and osx's ass.
[09:27] <PaulBrando> ramukmar: what about the "love" button?
[09:27] <kuahara> when I load the windows installer it finds ONE partition and it is 131072MB in size....WHY?????????????????
[09:27] <mae> if you were stranded on a desert island for the rest of your natural life and you had a choice between a gun, a laptop with infinity battery power and no internet connectivity (only the original version of qdos is installed + qbasic), or a picture of barbara streissand naked, which would you choose?
[09:27] <oddalot> erUSUL ok, thank you very much
[09:27] <Klarth> I can read it pretty fine, maybe you should go see an optometrist?
[09:28] <starcannon> hellsadvocate yeah i agree
[09:28] <erUSUL> oddalot: no problem
[09:28] <student> starcannon, are you there?
[09:28] <blue-frog> starcannon: apparently one would use xrandr to set up resolution via command line now
[09:28] <kuahara> <----willing to paypal someone money to get this issue fing fixed
[09:28] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   I removed powernowd and installed cpufreqd on this PC the other day, worked fine until a reboot when I now get this message and neither of them work, ideas?
[09:28] <hub_> anyone know a good protect script for xchat  ?
[09:28] <starcannon> blue-frog hows that work? I have not yet tried that, I just used xorg.conf and on my nvidia machines I used nvidia-settings
[09:29] <nunophotography> test ignore
[09:29] <kuahara> anyone??
[09:29] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: yup, it worked fine...i can't try it now, not at my ubuntu comp now
[09:29] <kelvin911> whenever the weather is Mist, the icon is plain grey in the weather
[09:29] <adam7> kuahara: windows can't see extended partitions
[09:30] <harrydg> kuahara: what's your prob?
[09:30] <PaulBrando> to clarify about the last.fm, the skip track and love buttons gray out as if it did something, but they stay that way and there is no affect ramukmar
[09:30] <kuahara> my problem is that I just created nearly 200GB in ntfs partitions and the windows installer only sees 131000 MB of it
[09:30] <adam7> kuahara: you'll need to reformat probably and use primary partitions instead
[09:30] <kuahara> adam7 all 3 were created as primary partitions
[09:30] <harrydg> what does fdisk -l /dev/<disk> give you?
[09:31] <adam7> kuahara: well then, no idea -- all I know is Windows can't see extended partitions :)
[09:31] <kuahara> can't tell as the windows disk is in the machine
[09:31] <kelvin911> please take a look http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothl2.png
[09:31] <hub_> are you using xp sp1?
[09:31] <kelvin911> what happen to the Mist icon?
[09:31] <harrydg> adam7: bullcrap, why shouldn't windows be able to see extended partitions...
[09:31] <kuahara> adam7, if I create a new partition in the 131000MB of space and make it 100GB, can I use windows to find the other 98GB and format it ntfs?
[09:31] <starcannon> kelvin911 mist icon?
[09:31] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: ok, i vnc-ed in and tried it, can confirm that now
[09:31] <kelvin911> look http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothl2.png
[09:31] <kelvin911> beside 24 C
[09:31] <Klarth> adam7 got owned
[09:32] <adam7> harrydg: I might be wrong, but IIRC, Windows just sees one big partition
[09:32] <eradicor> nol1fe,  heh.. now it doesnt ask anthing when i press delete.. it just .. deletes the file to trash bin..
[09:32] <kelvin911> whenever the weather is Mist, it has no icon for it
[09:32] <harrydg> there is a limit to some filesystems and some windows versions of 128GB
[09:32] <hub_> are you using xp sp1?
[09:32] <kuahara> adam7, I have used the windows installer to identify 3 partitions at once before
[09:32] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: meh, rhythmbox's last fm integration could use help
[09:32] <kuahara> it just says the linux ones are unknown partitions
[09:32] <nol1fe> eradicor: lol, that's not what you want eh?
[09:32] <harrydg> adam7: all depends on the way partitions are made
[09:32] <kuahara> harrydg, I made all 3 with parted magic
[09:32] <starcannon> kelvin it looks like you have a ever so slightly cloudy moonlit night going there
[09:33] <harrydg> kuahara: mkay... and what does fdisk -l /dev/<disk> say?
[09:33] <PaulBrando> ramukmar: yeah, it was like that before Hardy. All I can tell that it is doing is scrobbing. hehe, yeah, you are right - before Hardy, I don't think anything about the plugin worked for me, except the radio stations would play
[09:33] <blue-frog> starcannon: xrandr  will list your res. xrandr -s 1280x1024 will set a new res
[09:33] <kuahara> primary ntfs: 100GB and 98GB...ext 3 is primary and 35GB in size
[09:33] <eradicor> nol1fe,  no.. I want it to delete the file completely when i hit delete (and confirm it). I dont want it do put it into the trash bin.
[09:33] <kelvin911> starcannon: i just pick a city with Mist so i can show u
[09:33] <kuahara> why is windows only giving me 128GB to work with?
[09:33] <ghaya> hi, do you know what burning tool support el torito? how about brasero?
[09:33] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: true, last.fm in Banshee works way better
[09:33] <kuahara> 80GB is missing
[09:33] <harrydg> hmm... seems i can't get through...
[09:33] <kelvin911> starcannon: because whenever the weather is Mist, the icon dont show up
[09:33] <kuahara> or 70
[09:33] <adam7> harrydg: what do you mean?
[09:33] <PaulBrando> ramukmar: I appreciate you confirming that for me, always better to know I'm not the only one :)
[09:33] <harrydg> kuahara: what does fdisk -l /dev/<disk> say in linux?
[09:33] <starcannon> blue-frog excellent thanks! that may help on my cloudbook, can you set refresh rates and vsynch with that (i know i know rtfm) just thought I'd ask since your messin with it
[09:33] <blankthemuffin> Alright, on account of previous question getting nothing, I'll ask a very open ended question. I'm having abit of trouble with ubuntu's speed. The GUI is responcive, but it takes over 40 seconds to open a terminal etc. about a minute to get from the login to the desktop just showing, let alone being responsive. Apps seem to work fine, once they are opened.
[09:33] <kuahara> harrydg linux is not on that machine
[09:33] <kuahara> in any form
[09:33] <harrydg> adam7: windows is picky about stuff in your partition table
[09:34] <kuahara> so I can't tell you
[09:34] <harrydg> kuahara: ah... damn...
[09:34] <hub_> kuahara are you using xp sp1
[09:34] <adam7> !windows | kuahara
[09:34] <lesshaste> X crashes every now and then and this time I get a backtrace :)
[09:34] <kuahara> hub, there is no os on that machine at all
[09:34] <kuahara> thats the problem
[09:34] <lesshaste> http://pastebin.com/f176850a6
[09:34] <ramukmar> PaulBrando: sure, i generally stick to scrobbling...so that's why i never noticed i suppose
[09:34] <lesshaste> anyone know about this?
[09:34] <starcannon> kelvin911 you'd have to take that up with awn-extras they decide what icons go in the packages on that one
[09:34] <kelvin911> no its not the weather applet in awn
[09:34] <blue-frog> starcannon: apparently yes. all in man xrandr
[09:35] <kelvin911> starcannon: its the one come with ubuntu panel
[09:35] <hardy_hardly> ahoy all! installed 8.04 and I love it. Everything works fine. I am looking for an application that can sync files between Ubuntu and a Windows machine. Does anyone know of a decent one? I looked @ Unision but are there any other such apps?
[09:35] <harrydg> lesshaste: fglrx bug
[09:35] <Klarth> Man, ubuntu is basically Communism redone and made sexy
[09:35] <starcannon> blue-frog dang that may be the key I been looking for, thanks!
[09:35] <kuahara> screw it, gonna install windows on the 100GB partition first.  Can I then go back and recreate the other 98GB Ntfs partition afterward??
[09:35] <ramukmar> hardy_hardly: rsync?
[09:35] <lesshaste> harrydg: do you have any more info about that?
[09:35] <eradicor> nol1fe, actually it seems i have lost the entire dialogue that asks you to confirm the deletion :O
[09:35] <adam7> harrydg: would "the windows XP installer can't see extended partitions" more accurate?
[09:35] <hardy_hardly> ramukmar, I thought about that but I do not know of any good GUIs to do that.
[09:35] <rsvampire> can anyone help me enable my wireless card in Hardy please?
[09:35] <eradicor> nol1fe,  so i wouldnt even know if the "delete permanently" button is there
[09:35] <lesshaste> harrydg: how can you tell?
[09:36] <ghaya> hi, anyone know if brasero support el torito???
[09:36] <hardy_hardly> ramukmar, I need to get it working for my parents. I can use the command line though.
[09:36] <kelvin911> starcannon: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1bj7.png
[09:36] <starcannon> kelvin don't know man, only one i saw was the one in your awn
[09:36] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, what is your problem with wireless?
[09:36] <kelvin911> starcannon: when the weather is not mist i got the icon
[09:36] <kuahara> If I install windows on the 100GB partition first.  Can I then go back and recreate the other 98GB Ntfs partition afterward?
[09:36] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, you should just post your problem and then someone or the other will respond.
[09:36] <nol1fe> eradicor: online help says it adds a "Delete" menu item in the edit menu, or the popup menu when rightclicking.  that's my to $0.02 i fear
[09:36] <rsvampire> ok
[09:36] <harrydg> mkay... first things first...
[09:36] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: but the icon in the dock is always dark cloud?
[09:36] <harrydg> kuahara: try to boot a ubuntu live system from cd
[09:36] <starcannon> kelvin911 oh i see, why you want 2 weather applets rolling, got them set to 2 different weather servers?
[09:36] <nol1fe> eradicor: maybe you could add a keybinding to this menu entry, but i can't tell
[09:37] <kelvin911> starcannon: in gutsy the weather icon was right
[09:37] <harrydg> see how partmagic messed up your partition table
[09:37] <kuahara> harrydg, am in the middle of an ntfs format atm
[09:37] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   I removed powernowd and installed cpufreqd on this PC the other day, worked fine until a reboot when I now get this message and neither of them work, ideas? Try again with me first question then shall I
[09:37] <rsvampire> lspci shows a broadcom adaptor but I can't seem to access any wireless settings on my laptop
[09:37] <kuahara> gonna take a while
[09:37] <Chrysalis> how do i make the notification area with all the tray icons auto stick to the right instead of moving further back with each opened and closed tray icon
[09:37] <harrydg> ah, later then :)
[09:37] <ramukmar> hardy_hardly: capivara is another option
[09:37] <kuahara> is parted magic really that bad?
[09:37] <adam7> Chrysalis: you probably just need to lock it in the corner?
[09:37] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, broadcom chip needs the firmware to be installed
[09:37] <kuahara> someone made it sound like good reliable software earlier
[09:37] <harrydg> adam7: the installer of windows: don't know about extended partitions... you cna't install windows on an extended partition, no... :)
[09:37] <adam7> Chrysalis: right click, and the press lock to panel
[09:37] <dmub82> Hi. I want user "d" to be able to run a script, ~/Documents/Scripts/reconnect.sh, with sudo without entering a password (so i can schedule to run without intervention); what line do I add to ym sudoers file?
[09:37] <kelvin911> starcannon: it is convinent because my girlfriend and family are in different country
[09:37] <adam7> harrydg: that's what I meant earlier, sorry for the confusion :)
[09:37] <harrydg> and lesshaste: i've seen that error before (same KIND of error)
[09:37] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly I realize that, but the restricted drivers manager isn't showing my wireless card
[09:38] <harrydg> it's a signal handler error
[09:38] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, the driver for your broadcom chip might be installed but the firmware cannot be distributed legally in some countries.
[09:38] <kelvin911> starcannon: so i know what is the weather there
[09:38] <Chrysalis> adam7: its locked, but it moves further to the right when i open programs and doesnt go back left when i close them and leavse empty space
[09:38] <lesshaste> harrydg: ok..is it reported or should i do that?
[09:38] <WildChild7> I have just installed ubuntu, and my monitor is at resolution 1280x024 and 60HZ. I would lile to be at resolution at 1024x768 and 85HZ but I don't know how to change it, since in xorg.conf there is no stuff..http://pastebin.ca/1009957 can someone help me out. Or I should go to previous release hutsy ?
[09:38] <starcannon> kelvin911 ah that makes sense, thats kinda cool actually, don't know how to bring your misty icon back though :( sorry
[09:38] <kelvin911> after upgrade to hardy the weather thing in panel is screwed up
[09:38] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly well in gutsy you had to enable the restricted driver and then choose the firmware to upload
[09:38] <harrydg> lesshaste: it never hurt anyone to report it... not that ati people care... but they just might :)
[09:38] <casdf> so i'm trying to get ubuntu to dualboot nicely under vista, but i didn't install grub. what should i do now?
[09:38] <harrydg> lesshaste: try with an open source driver
[09:38] <kelvin911> starcannon: i can live with fked up icon
[09:39] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly and in Hardy it seems to be totally gone alltogether
[09:39] <adam7> !grub | casdf
[09:39] <hardy_hardly> are you on 8.04?? rsvampire
[09:39] <harrydg> some ati crap
[09:39] <lesshaste> harrydg: that doesn't really do acceleration though ?
[09:39] <kelvin911> starcannon: but this is one of the thing hardy is pissing me off
[09:39] <harrydg> if it crashes again... we'll try to do some debugging :)
[09:39] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly yes I'm on 8.04 right now
[09:39] <harrydg> lesshaste: no...
[09:39] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: it should be called ubuntu 98
[09:39] <harrydg> but it also doesn't crash ;)
[09:39] <kelvin911> just like win98
[09:39] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, System->Administration->Hardware Devices
[09:39] <harrydg> i had numerous problems with fglrx... :(
[09:39] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, oops Hardware Drivers
[09:40] <casdf> can i not boot ubuntu under the vista bootloader?
[09:40] <stippi> hi all, I have problems with my network setup, I can only get it to work when I physically switch off WLAN. Only then will Ubuntu use my LAN connection and configure it via DHCP. Why can't it just notice that WLAN does not work and use the LAN connection as a fallback?
[09:40] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly, yeah I opened that and my broadcom chip isn't listed, just my nvidia card
[09:40] <adam7> casdf: you can, but it probably is easier to install grub
[09:40] <starcannon> kelvin911 it would and may happen in gutsy as well, keep in mind hardy is just a collection of open source software, if the developers of your weather applet decided mist was a bad idea, or just messed up a config file, then an update regardless of distro or version could make it look just like it does right now in hardy
[09:40] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, did you try to reboot?
[09:40] <casdf> adam7: the reason i ask is because i have a recovery partition from lenovo, which im not sure grub will play nicely with
[09:40] <adam7> casdf: try this http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=473915&pid=587684376&st=0&#entry587684376
[09:40] <starcannon> kelvin911 thats the bummer about the human condition, we fsck up alot ;)
[09:40] <kelvin911> starcannon: can u check urs for me?
[09:41] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly yeah I've rebooted like 3 times
[09:41] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, it was not listed even for me, but after a reboot it just happened to be there.
[09:41] <casdf> adam7: ok, thanks im gonna check it out
[09:41] <starcannon> kelvin sure, do you know a place thats misty right now, i'll check it out
[09:41] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, hmm ok. Let me see...
[09:41] <adam7> casdf: looking at it now, it might not be too helpful :P
[09:41] <casdf> adam7: heh, yeah it seems to be for using grub
[09:41] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly let me try rebooting againt while you're thinking
[09:42] <sagitarius_girl> hi
[09:42] <adam7> casdf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265325 might be better
[09:42] <sagitarius_girl> can i join
[09:43] <adam7> sagitarius_girl: sure
[09:43] <sagitarius_girl> thanks!
[09:43] <adam7> just start typing :)
[09:43] <casdf> adam7: so i install grub onto the linux partition then?
[09:43] <casdf> adam7: even if ubuntu has already been installed?
[09:43] <adam7> casdf: you'll probably need to I think - every time there is a kernel update, the loading stuff changes, which is why grub is easier
[09:43] <blankthemuffin> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010297   I removed powernowd and installed cpufreqd on this PC the other day, worked fine until a reboot when I now get this message and neither of them work, ideas? Try again with me first question then shall I
[09:44] <kelvin911> starcannon: the place i have now it is light rain
[09:44] <kelvin911> starcannon: let me search
[09:44] <sagitarius_girl> what r u talking bout?
[09:44] <casdf> erg... this comp doesnt come with windows cds, its all on the recovery partition, so i'd rather not risk losing access to it :\
[09:44] <adam7> casdf: you can install GRUB to the Ubuntu partition, and then load GRUB from the Windows bootloader
[09:44] <casdf> adam7: ok, that sounds like an awesome plan.
[09:44] <adam7> casdf: it doesn't involve messing with your MBR at all
[09:45] <blankthemuffin> casdf, Grub is better than the vista bootloader at any rate, I was playing around trying to get the vista one to work the other day, much easier to install grub.
[09:45] <casdf> adam7: and i do this by livecd'ing ubuntu?
[09:45] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly hey, I restarted and it still didn't pop up
[09:45] <adam7> casdf: I think that's how it works -- I'm not too on top of this bootloader stuff so I can't give you directions
[09:45] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[09:45] <hardy_hardly> try the offline install
[09:45] <starcannon> casdf what brand of computer is that?
[09:45] <casdf> starcannon: lenovo r61i, i think you mentioned you had similar
[09:45] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, do you have ethernet working?
[09:46] <Cyber_Stalker> damit
[09:46] <hardy_hardly> try iwconfig rsvampire
[09:46] <blankthemuffin> You have to download some third party apps for vista to modify the bootloader.
[09:46] <starcannon> casdf I have similar restore setup
[09:46] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly yeah I have ethernet working
[09:46] <Cyber_Stalker> was going to install ubuntu on my old machine but i just realised that i dont have a screen for it
[09:46] <starcannon> casdf I dont know how lenevo does things but on this hp for $20 i can buy a set of restore cd's
[09:46] <surki> hi, I am running a x program at remote computer. I ssh'ed into that machine(and xforward is working fine). any way to make that xprogram appear in the local computer?
[09:46] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, are you using desktop or server?
[09:46] <zyx386> how can fix this Error http://pastebin.com/m5d9d9649 ?????????????
[09:46] <casdf> starcannon: i hear that if i call them up i can get a set, but i've not tried yet
[09:46] <MonKey1> how do i compile things after i download recordmydesktop ?
[09:46] <rsvampire> lo  no wireless extensions, eth0  no wireless extensions
[09:46] <adam7> casdf: with the clever use of dd you should be able to copy that partition and make a dvd out of it
[09:46] <rsvampire> I'm using 8.04 desktop
[09:47] <adam7> !bcm43xx | rsvampire
[09:47] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, okay
[09:47] <kelvin911> starcannon: Watson Lake is Mist now
[09:47] <ramukmar> casdf: they should have an app for burning the recovery partition to disk? my sony vaio had it
[09:47] <adam7> rsvampire: you might also want to check out ndiswrapper w/ broadcom
[09:47] <NET||abuse> ok, so guys, i have a server with 2 sata drives, one is active as the system drive, the other inactive, i want to mount the second drive, and then mirror all my data across to it in incremental backups, what's the best solution to do this under ubuntu?
[09:47] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, try the offline install
[09:47] <adam7> !ndiswrapper | rsvampire
[09:47] <kelvin911> starcannon: please check Watson Lake
[09:47] <casdf> ramukmar: interesting, i will check when i boot into windows
[09:47] <starcannon> casdf if the ability to restore windows when its inevitability occurs is important to you, i'd not trust the restore partition to survive even if I weren't trying to dual boot another os
[09:47] <tech0007> zyx386: export WINK_INSTALL_DIR
[09:47] <L_inf> What does Tracker do?(the little magnifying glass in the notification area) seem to be slowing down my system.
[09:47] <starcannon> kelvin911 what state?
[09:47] <adam7> NET||abuse: rsync might be good if you put it in cron
[09:47] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, no idea what the best solution is, I usually rsync between my two PC's
[09:47] <casdf> starcannon: yeah, its not a great option
[09:48] <kelvin911> starcannon: dont know
[09:48] <hardy_hardly> adam7, I like fwcutter though. In my case it was all automatic
[09:48] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: just search watson lake
[09:48] <orionrobots> L_inf - tracker indexes files for quick searching.
[09:48] <NET||abuse> adam7, i thought something lyike rsync would be an answer,, ok, i'll see what i can do.
[09:48] <adam7> hardy_hardly: yeah, in my case, the transfer rate with fwcutter is ~70kilo*bytes* per second
[09:48] <jaffarkelshac> i am trying to install, america's army opps, it at the stage where it saids installing base install, its been there for a while, is the installation process crashed? its goes from 1%-100% again and again,
[09:48] <zyx386> tech0007, nothing happen!!
[09:48] <kelvin911> Starnestommy: this is what i have http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2hq7.png
[09:48] <NET||abuse> adam7, what about system files, in use files etc. is there support or work arounds for dealing with this?
[09:48] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, actually I always use rsync for any semi-large copying, it's really great
[09:48] <orionrobots> L_inf - it is slow because it is indexing most files on the computer -building a database of files.
[09:48] <tech0007> zyx386: continue w/ what u were doing
[09:48] <hardy_hardly> adam7, what is the rate using ndiswrapper?
[09:49] <NET||abuse> adam7, eg, there's a mysql database server running, what can i do about files that it has?
[09:49] <tech0007> zyx386: what r u trying to do btw?
[09:49] <adam7> NET||abuse: great think about linux, is you can just copy everything even when running -- there won't be any problem, I don't think
[09:49] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, I know you can bring files down from a live webserver
[09:49] <zyx386> tech0007, i install Wink
[09:49] <_sp8472_> since gutsy, my hard drive keeps spinning down all the time and the brightness automatically is turned down - but this is not what i set in laptop-mode.conf - any suggestions?
[09:49] <starcannon> kelvin911 my mist icon is a sort of gray gradient is that what you mean?
[09:49] <zyx386> and become this error
[09:49] <kelvin911> yes
[09:49] <fiyawerx_> kelvin911, what weather app is that?
[09:49] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, awsome if true, i wonder what the deal is with it.
[09:49] <adam7> NET||abuse: at any rate, the backup won't be stopped by open files or in use files, not sure what the state of the files will look like when backed up though :/
[09:49] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, do it at work, it backs up the server every night.
[09:49] <L_inf> orionrobots: how much time am I supposed to leave to work for it to be able search something??
[09:49] <kelvin911> that come with ubuntu
[09:49] <kelvin911> in top panel
[09:50] <starcannon> kelvin911 yours doesn't show the gradient, or you don't like that icon?
[09:50] <_sp8472_> correction: since HARDY, my hard drive keeps spinning down all the time and the brightness automatically is turned down - but this is not what i set in laptop-mode.conf - any suggestions?
[09:50] <ramukmar> NET||abuse: it'll work even if files are in use
[09:50] <adam7> hardy_hardly: 36mbps w/ ndiswrapper vs 1mbps w/ b43
[09:50] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, what roles does you server cover?
[09:50] <fiyawerx_> does anyone here use clearweather?
[09:50] <tech0007> zyx386: can you try running it now?
[09:50] <kelvin911> i thought the gradient is missing icon
[09:50] <NET||abuse> ramukmar, yay, +1 vote on the it'll work column :)
[09:50] <hardy_hardly> adam7, :O I did not know about this.
[09:50] <kelvin911> i thought miss icon is something else
[09:50] <ramukmar> NET||abuse: yes, that's one thing i like about linux :)
[09:50] <adam7> hardy_hardly: yeah -- it's the downside to using b43
[09:50] <kelvin911> i guess the gradient is the right icon
[09:50] <blankthemuffin> NET||abuse, it basically runs a big typo3 server with many many sites and users, as well as an email server
[09:50] <hardy_hardly> adam7, what tool did you use to test this?
[09:50] <zyx386> tech0007, the error is stil her
[09:50] <orionrobots> L_inf:That depends on how many files you have, and what is in them. It may run like that for a while. How recently did you install?
[09:50] <adam7> hardy_hardly: netcat + lan
[09:51] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, sounds much the same as my server
[09:51] <starcannon> kelvin911 nah i think the gradient is supposed to represent mist, or at least thats my perception /shrug, ones mans mist is another mans missing icon perhaps though i dont know
[09:51] <adam7> hardy_hardly: as in, moving information from /dev/zero to /dev/null on another computer
[09:51] <adam7> via netcat
[09:51] <fiyawerx_> 1mbps with b43?
[09:51] <hardy_hardly> adam7, haahah ok.
[09:51] <rsvampire> adam7 ndiswrapper isn't installed
[09:51] <NET||abuse> blankthemuffin, just it has about 20/30 sites on it now, 50 more are about to be loaded onto it. lotsa fun so i wanted backups to be operable
[09:51] <orionrobots> L_inf:You can safely kill tracker if it is bothering you. However, the search box may then not find everything.
[09:51] <fiyawerx_> I was maxing out my internet connection at 10mbps with b43 an hour ago
[09:51] <rsvampire> adam7 so how can my driver already be loaded... and not in the restricted drivers manager
[09:51] <kelvin911> starcannon: it looks ugly so i thought the icon is missing
[09:52] <adam7> fiyawerx_: it depends how far away you are - in my case, I'm upstairs, but I should get better then 1mbps with b43
[09:52] <tech0007> zyx386: ﻿did u install it thru apt-get? or did u compile it from source?
[09:52] <fiyawerx_> ahh, gotcha
[09:52] <adam7> (upstairs from the router, that is)
[09:52] <blankthemuffin> Yeah NET||abuse, this has about 10 subsites with typo3 handling sites within each subnet.
[09:52]  * fiyawerx_ nods
[09:52] <kelvin911> i guess the mist icon is right
[09:52] <blankthemuffin> subsite even
[09:52] <casdf> can someone help me with installing grub on the linux partition, instead of MBR? i've loaded up the livecd
[09:52] <zyx386> tech0007, compile from source
[09:52] <jaffarkelshac> !aptfix
[09:52] <starcannon> kelvin911 break out the Gimp and make a nicer one, be sure to share though ;)
[09:52] <kelvin911> i am not a designer
[09:53] <starcannon> oi vey
[09:53] <MonKey1> how do i compile things after i download recordmydesktop ?
[09:53] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly I'm still lost man, that didn't work
[09:53] <tech0007> zyx386: you need to specify where u installed it. export WINK_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/local i'm guessing
[09:53] <ramukmar> kelvin911: i never had mist in my part of the world...so never got that icon ;)
[09:53] <ere4si> MonKey1: there will be a readme file
[09:53] <ramukmar> kelvin911: how ugly is it?
[09:53] <MonKey1> no..
[09:53] <starcannon> lol
[09:53] <MonKey1> theres not
[09:53] <adam7> kelvin911: I get that mist icon here in Beijing whenever it's polluted :)
[09:53] <casdf> following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows leads to an error when i try the 'find /boot/grub/stage1' command
[09:53] <kelvin911> i live in vancouver so it is mist almost all the time
[09:54] <adam7> that is one ugly icon, though
[09:54] <hardy_hardly> rsvampire, :O that's messed up. The manual install for firmware did not work?
[09:54] <kelvin911> its freaking ugly
[09:54] <zyx386> tech0007, nothing
[09:54] <ramukmar> kelvin911: hehe, i should check that out..
[09:54] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly nope
[09:54] <ere4si> MonKey1: cd to the dir it is unpacked in - then ./.configure
[09:54] <kelvin911> check out Watson Lake now
[09:54] <starcannon> that icon is soooo ugly, it reminds me of this one time playing EQ we were at bandit camp, and this bard had a flute...
[09:54] <tech0007> zyx386: can u give me the output of 'which wink'
[09:54] <kelvin911> it is mist there
[09:55] <ere4si> MonKey1: or ./configure
[09:55] <L_inf> orionrobots: I upgraded two weeks ago, and although I've let it work lots of time, when I search anything it doesn't find it just give me "your search gave no results"
[09:55] <zyx386> tech0007,  /usr/local/bin/wink
[09:55] <blankthemuffin> you're in the grub command line when your run the command yes kelvin911??
[09:55] <kelvin911> what grub command?
[09:55] <blankthemuffin> kelvin911, the grub command line
[09:55] <kelvin911> ??
[09:55] <casdf> the find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:55] <tech0007> zyx386: try 'export WINK_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/local/bin'
[09:56] <blankthemuffin> kelvin911, entered by typing sudo grub
[09:56] <casdf> oh, sorry, you're talking to someone else.
[09:56] <kelvin911> what?
[09:56] <kelvin911> why do i need to do that?
[09:56] <kelvin911> i am not in grub
[09:56] <kelvin911> maybe wrong person?
[09:56] <orionrobots> L_inf: Hmm - I cannot say much for its usefulness or reliability - it works for me, albeit eratically - some fiels it finds, some it will not find at all. Newer ones may not have been indexed yet, and some file types may have been ignored.
[09:56] <casdf> blankthemuffin: im the guy in sudo grub
[09:56] <zyx386> tech0007, the problem stil her
[09:56] <david__--> I just upgraded to hardy and now my wireless light will not turn on,any suggestions?
[09:56] <blankthemuffin> lol sorry kelvin911
[09:56] <kelvin911> lol
[09:57] <casdf> blankthemuffin: trying to run find /boot/grub/stage1 and it says file not found
[09:57] <tech0007> zyx386: ok wait i'll take a look at the tar ball
[09:57] <napnap> hi all
[09:57] <napnap> how can I check for bad blocks (the integrity) of an usb key please ?
[09:58] <lodder> Is it possible to switch from debian etch to ubuntu hardy without actualy reinstalling? It should be done on a live system if possible.
[09:58] <tech0007> zyx386: did you take a look at the readme.txt fle for install issues?
[09:58] <blankthemuffin> casdf, I think you have to go find /media/<name_of_linux_drive>/boot/grub/stage1
[09:58] <cuonglb> be back
[09:58] <lodder> whois lodder
[09:58] <zyx386> tech0007, yes
[09:58] <casdf> it seems like i need to use it to grab the relevant partitions? and then do root (a, b); setup (a)
[09:58] <rsvampire> hardy_hardly yeah even after a restart that didn't work
[09:58] <tech0007> zyx386: just curious why compile when the versions the same w/ that in the repo?
[09:58] <blankthemuffin> Yeah casdf, try appending the directory to your linux drive to the front
[09:59] <zyx386> tech0007, because the .deb not worked to
[09:59] <casdf> blankthemuffin: i do have /boot but i don't have a grub folder in there
[09:59] <casdf> blankthemuffin: i didn't choose to install it during ubuntu install
[09:59] <tech0007> zyx386: did u do 'sudo apt-get install wink' ?
[09:59] <blankthemuffin> oh casdf, if you don't have grub installed you can't run that command.
[10:00] <casdf> blankthemuffin: if i did though, wouldnt grub be placed in the MBR? because i don't want that
[10:00] <zyx386> tech0007, yes
[10:00] <akun> help: a live cd/fresh install of hardy gives me a super-low-volume system even though I have maxed all possible sliders. happened on both my laptop and desktop pc. any solution?
[10:00] <tech0007> zyx386: what error did u get?
[10:00] <L_inf> orionrobots: I don't think I have big files, biggest one has to be the sage3.0 build (1.5Gb and more than 39000 items ) Would you say thats the problem??
[10:00] <zyx386> wow yet worked fine
[10:00] <kelvin911> akun: i know what u mean
[10:00] <starcannon> casdf you can choose where to install grub, it can go in mbr or anywhere you send it, any partition on a hdd
[10:00] <zyx386> thanx tech0007
[10:00] <casdf> blankthemuffin: is there some other way to find the partition names so i can install grub?
[10:01] <blankthemuffin> it's only for fixing up grub if you install vista over the top of linux
[10:01] <rsvampire> can anybody help me with enabling my wireless driver in 8.04?
[10:01] <kelvin911> akun: just need to turn up the volume in the speakers
[10:01] <casdf> starcannon: you mean during the ubuntu install sequence?
[10:01] <cuonglb> akun:master detail problem
[10:01] <casdf> starcannon: if so, i may just try reinstalling ubuntu
[10:01] <starcannon> casdf during ubuntu install, after the partitioning bit, theres a button that says "advanced" on it, if you click that you can see a list of available places to install grub to
[10:01] <tech0007> zyx386: thanks for what?
[10:01] <axisys> !compiz
[10:01] <orionrobots> L_inf: many files may be as much a bottleneck as big ones. I will be fair - I am no expert on Tracker.
[10:01] <akun> cuonglb: where do I modify this "master" thingy?
[10:01] <kelvin911> akun: after i upgrade to hardy the volume increases
[10:01] <orionrobots> !trackerd
[10:01] <zyx386> tech0007, i install wink again is worked
[10:01] <orionrobots> Worth a shot..
[10:01] <tech0007> zyx386: great! what did u do?
[10:01] <fipsomat> can it be that security.ubuntu.com is not reachable at the moment?
[10:02] <sandeep> irc.freenode.net
[10:02] <gnomefreak> fipsomat: it is
[10:02] <orionrobots> !tracker | L_inf
[10:02] <akun> mine is like, almost unheard! not just low volume, but almost unheard!
[10:02] <gnomefreak> flatline-kun: depends on the country code you are usig
[10:02] <zyx386> i innstall the libexpact and worked
[10:02] <david__--> just upgraded to hardy,any idea why wireless light doesnt turn on now?
[10:02] <sandeep> #education.openoffice.org
[10:02] <kelvin911> usually where do u install grub to?
[10:02] <akun> cuonglb: where do I modify this "master" thingy for volume?
[10:02] <starcannon> gutsy update server is slower than anything
[10:02] <cgentry72> i use to have a wireless icon on my toolbar where I could choose my wireless networks but i accidentally removed it. I can't find it in the add to panel.
[10:02] <tech0007> zyx386: ur a certified geek now haha
[10:02] <gnomefreak> oops fipsomat depends on the mirror you are using
[10:03] <XDS2010> hi david__--
[10:03] <cgentry72> how do i add it to the toolbar again
[10:03] <zyx386> tech0007, lol
[10:03] <kelvin911> anyone have problem with openoffice when compiz is on?
[10:03] <L_inf> cgentry72: had that same problem once
[10:03] <fipsomat> gnomefreak: i mean security.ubuntu.com ;) the host that is used when security updates are announced to fd or bugtraq
[10:04] <david__--> xds2010:hello
[10:04] <akun> help: everyone, where do I need to go if my sound volume is ALMOST UNHEARD? the physical speaker is maxed. the volume in ubuntu is maxed out... help...
[10:04] <tech0007> akun: sound applet on top
[10:04] <akun> tech007: sound applet maxed out also....
[10:04] <axisys> how do I turn on compiz on gutsy? the !compiz did not give anything specific
[10:04] <kelvin911> the button bar in openoffice sometimes disappear when I move the mouse over there
[10:04] <fiyawerx> Where can i back up my panel properites? is there a way?
[10:04] <XDS2010> david__--:  what issue where you struggling with last we spoke ?
[10:04] <orionrobots> akun: all channels?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> fipsomat: it uses the same CC as your other repos but you dont have to use a CC in repo. if in hardy use de contry code works fine in all repos
[10:04] <casdf> starcannon: ok, thanks a lot.
[10:05] <_sp8472_> so, basically, hardy is killing my harddrive again
[10:05] <L_inf> cgentry72: add the notification area and restart (dont know why but it reappears)
[10:05] <starcannon> casdf np gl
[10:05] <kelvin911> akun: get a powerful speakers
[10:05] <fipsomat> gnomefreak: thanks for the info :)
[10:05] <orionrobots> kelvin911: lol - thats just silly..
[10:05] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: your welcome
[10:05] <kelvin911> i got altec 5.1 home theatre so i can hear it even if it is low
[10:05] <david__--> xds2010:I believe it was with wireless then also,though I managed to fix it,then it is messing up again now that i upgraded
[10:05] <orionrobots> akun: what kind of sound hardware are you using - card etc?
[10:05] <cuonglb> akun: recheck volme control : Lock channels master together
[10:06] <starcannon> cgentry72 this may be something useful to you http://blog.adorr.net/blog/ubuntu_linux/3 shows how to restore gnome-panel to defualt
[10:06] <akun> kelvin911: in windows the sound is like ear-breaking when maxed out
[10:06] <kelvin911> the volume in xp is definitely louder
[10:06] <fiyawerx> gnomefreak, your welcome for what?
[10:06] <akun> cunglb: how do I lock channel master together?
[10:06] <akun> cuonglb: how do I lock channel master together?
[10:06] <XDS2010> does anyone have any issues they need fixing for money ?
[10:06] <kelvin911> but in ubuntu the volume is lower
[10:06] <XDS2010> lmao
[10:06] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: bad auto completion the person left i used fi<tab>
[10:06] <fiyawerx> oh :)
[10:07] <akun> mine is like, ear-breaking in xp but almost unheard in hardy
[10:07] <fiyawerx> If I remove both my gnome panels, where do you go to get one back?
[10:07] <kelvin911> akun: are you using those crappy computer speakers?
[10:07] <starcannon> kelvin911 and on Mac OSX the volume goes all the way to 11, thats one more than 10 isn't it.
[10:07] <orionrobots> Rofl..
[10:07] <tech0007> akun: run 'pavucontrol'
[10:07] <orionrobots> (Spinal tap fans here?)
[10:07] <akun> kelvin911: i'm using an earphone that is very loud when it is maxed out in xp
[10:07] <_sp8472_> it would be nice if there were like a couple different ubuntu support channels with different topics... :/ maybe I should try the forums instead
[10:07] <starcannon> dude I'm a groupy
[10:08] <akun> tech007: will try that, thanks
[10:08] <kelvin911> earphone sucks they dont have amplifier
[10:08] <orionrobots> _sp8472_: it can get hard to follow when there are too many threads on here.
[10:08] <kelvin911> get a powerful 5.1 or even 7.1 speakers with sub woof
[10:08] <XDS2010> hi david__-- what is the issue currently ?
[10:08] <orionrobots> kelvin911: wwell they do suck if you plug them into a line out...
[10:08] <malka_b> dear lord todaty at startup my ubuntu booted into busybox(?) and refused to startap.i am writing from windowz and feeling dirty.halp
[10:08] <tech0007> orionrobots: :-D
[10:08] <_sp8472_> orionrobots: idd
[10:08] <kelvin911> u can plug earphone to the speakers output
[10:08] <akun> kelvin911, you're not getting the point. as sucky as my earphone is, it's very loud in windows xp.... in ubuntu almost nothing is heard
[10:08] <starcannon> malka_b did you do a clean install or an update install?
[10:09] <kelvin911> u need amplifier
[10:09] <starcannon> malka_b did you dishonor the lord your grub in some way?
[10:09] <malka_b> i updated something
[10:09] <kelvin911> u plug it thru a powerful speakers
[10:09] <orionrobots> akun: I think kelvin911 is taking the mickey. Try describing your sound card...
[10:09] <malka_b> no no grub involved
[10:09] <david__--> xds2010:I just upgraded to hardy about an hour ago and i cant seem to get the wireless light to appear even after a few reboots
[10:09] <XDS2010> does anyone have any issues they need fixing , im "hierable" :P
[10:09] <starcannon> malka_b what update did you do? from gutsy to hardy?
[10:10] <akun> everyone: i'll try pavucontrol first... will reboot to ubuntu (no internet connection in ubuntu yet with my modem)
[10:10] <tech0007> XDS2010: :-*
[10:10] <akun> brb everyone
[10:10] <XDS2010> david__--:  did you try unplugging the wireless device and then plugging it back in ?
[10:10] <kelvin911> did u push the volume all the way up?
[10:10] <kelvin911> to 100%?
[10:10] <orionrobots> kelvin911: to 11.
[10:10] <akun> kevlin911: to 100%, in the panel applet, in the apps like totem, etc...
[10:10] <kelvin911> 11?
[10:10] <david__--> xds2010:you mean the router itself?
[10:10] <XDS2010> david__--:  i know it may sound stoopid
[10:10] <malka_b> ah sorry not in that way i have hardy from wubi install and for updates i only updated software
[10:10] <starcannon> *snicker, snort, fart, guffaw
[10:11] <kelvin911> master and PCM ?
[10:11]  * orionrobots is chuckling away
[10:11] <XDS2010> david__--:  , well what is your wireless device ?
[10:11] <XDS2010> ( the one that isn't working )
[10:11] <XDS2010> tech0007:  ?
[10:11] <david__--> xds2010:broadcam wireless card
[10:11] <XDS2010> need assistance ;)
[10:12] <European-African> hey guys, any debate as to whether those who have amd-64 should install 32-bit vers of ubuntu, because most software at the moment does not support 64?
[10:12] <XDS2010> david__--:  ok
[10:12] <XDS2010> ....
[10:12] <orionrobots> European-African: When you say most - there is plenty that is fine.
[10:12] <tech0007> XDS2010: nope, im good
[10:12] <orionrobots> European-African: some closed source drivers are a pain though.
[10:12] <XDS2010> david__--:  ok
[10:12] <European-African> yes but there is plenty that is not fine, like flash
[10:13] <starcannon> European-African yeah theres been a few heated debates about that on the forums, they are pointless debates, go with what works for you. Currently the only excellent reason to do 64 on a desktop is for the added ram imo but, to each their own I say
[10:13] <XDS2010> david__--:  what version of ubuntu do you have ? , ( what initial version i mean )
[10:13] <orionrobots> Good point.
[10:13] <axisys> so anyone here runs compiz on gutsy?
[10:13] <malka_b> yes
[10:13] <starcannon> axisys I do
[10:13] <orionrobots> Sure yes.
[10:13] <david__--> xds2010:gutsy 7.10 and now hardy
[10:13] <orionrobots> Actually - hardy now
[10:13] <European-African> perhaps i should install 32-bit then
[10:14] <XDS2010> starcannon:  there is a company promising the ability off over 4 gigs of ram on 32bit
[10:14] <ere4si> European-African: I'm one that thinks until the 64bit matures 32bit is the only way to go - unless you like a struggle
[10:14] <tech0007> European-African: good choice!
[10:14] <axisys> how do I enable/intsall compiz for gutsy... i see steps for edgy
[10:14] <malka_b> thou my buntu dont run anymore ; )
[10:14] <kelvin911> akun: still cant hear?
[10:14] <starcannon> European-African that is likely the simplist solution
[10:14] <gypsymauro> ciao
[10:14] <orionrobots> Keep it simple.
[10:14] <European-African> ok thanx u made up my mind
[10:14] <starcannon> XDS2010 where do I sign up?
[10:14] <XDS2010> starcannon:  its  M something (has a odd sounding name)
[10:14] <gypsymauro> I've installed 8.04 but it has not openoffice base and when I install it it doesn't start (!?!) it wasn't a LTS?:)
[10:14] <XDS2010> starcannon:  it was a article on engadget
[10:15] <starcannon> I'll have to go digg it up
[10:15] <XDS2010> about a mounth ago
[10:15] <axisys> starcannon: how would one enable/install compiz on aiglx for gutsy?
[10:15] <orionrobots> axisys - it is under settings, preferences. There is a desktop effects button under the desktop settings. Cannot remember the specifics - not on my ubuntu desktop right now.
[10:15] <XDS2010> I have my reservations about 64bit
[10:15] <axisys> orionrobots: cool.. let me check it out
[10:15] <sortudo_78> Please! I just installed Ubuntu 8.4 but i could not get internet connection, i have 4 modes to connect: 1> wireless , Atheros AR5007eg  2> PCMCIA CDMA Modem Yiso C893, 3> Wired cable, Realtek 8139 family, 4> Serial modem, Not detected. Please! Give a step by step to connect on the Internet !!!
[10:16] <starcannon> aiglx is that an ATi card?
[10:16] <kelvin911> axisys: i had run compiz on gutsy
[10:16] <lodder> exit
[10:16] <kelvin911> u need to install the compiz manager
[10:16] <XDS2010> On one hand there are more applications that don't work on 64 than they do on 32 , but on the other the hardware is better all together
[10:16] <axisys> starcannon: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[10:16] <orionrobots> !compiz | axisys
[10:16] <XDS2010> axisys:
[10:16] <XDS2010> axisys:
[10:16] <XDS2010> ahem
[10:16] <FloodBot2> XDS2010: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <XDS2010> axisys:  i can help you
[10:17] <European-African> what does Compiz do?
[10:17] <starcannon> axisys ah okay, i'd recommend finding a guide at the ubuntu forums, its been well documented, I have one for nvidia but not for intel, my only intel works outta the box with compiz so I didn't have to do anything special
[10:17] <ere4si> sortudo_78: go to  system - admin - network  in the menu
[10:17] <sortudo_78> ok
[10:17] <Misplaced> hey ppl. can someone hlp me :)
[10:17] <XDS2010> European-African:  its like beryl
[10:17] <kelvin911> European-African: compiz makes u high
[10:17] <orionrobots> European-African: It is the all singing, all dancing 3d desktop effects stuff. Like XDS2010 said.
[10:17] <sortudo_78> i did
[10:18] <oddalot> hey, what is the best free forum software?
[10:18]  * orionrobots thinks kelvin911 is already high....
[10:18] <XDS2010> kelvin911:  why would he want that then ;)
[10:18] <MonKey1> ??
[10:18] <starcannon> axisys http://www.ubuntuforums.org you could do the Q and A in here, but it'd take hours likely, or you could have near instant gratification with a step by step guide
[10:18] <musa> does any1 know tool to convert vmware image to virtualbox image
[10:18] <European-African> so it is worth installing?
[10:18] <XDS2010> yes
[10:18] <starcannon> axisys disregard my last message XDS is on the case
[10:18] <ere4si> sortudo_78: and click an interface and make active
[10:18] <axisys> XDS2010: i meant to say I am looking to install compiz on 8.04
[10:18] <Misplaced> Anyone here had ATI Radeon 9250 Graphc Card and know how to install drivers for it? Im torturing myself for last 2 hours...ill get wrinkles!!!!
[10:19] <XDS2010> axisys you need to upgrade xine-libs and install glut
[10:19] <kelvin911> European-African: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbV0729Regg this is my compiz on gutsy
[10:19] <kelvin911> European-African: yes it is worth it
[10:19] <orionrobots> oddalot: try phpnuke. It seems popular.
[10:19] <XDS2010> axisys: also ... how much ram you got ?
[10:19] <European-African> ok, will check out
[10:19] <axisys> XDS2010: 1.5g
[10:19] <oddalot> onionrobots...hmmm apparently phpbb looks good
[10:19] <kelvin911> i only have 1GB ram
[10:19] <sortudo_78> ere4si: my wire connection is set to DHCP, it found DNs configuration and domain name, but did not get an ip adrress !!!
[10:20] <MonKey1> can i setup a dedi on my ubuntu?
[10:20] <kelvin911> running compiz no problem
[10:20] <European-African> kelvin911: is compriz heavy on my computer
[10:20] <XDS2010> axisys: u want me to connect via vnc and help you install it ?
[10:20] <orionrobots> oddalot: there are comparison grids somewhere on the net if I could find it - for bbs, wikis and blogs.
[10:20] <kelvin911> European-African: i dont know
[10:20] <axisys> XDS2010: naah.. thnx
[10:20] <axisys> XDS2010: i should be able to just enable on settings.. looks like
[10:20] <orionrobots> MonKey1: dedi? I think you might need to explain that.
[10:20] <sortudo_78> ere4si: Should i eneble roamming mode? ore diseble roaming mode?
[10:21] <kelvin911> European-African: i have dual core 3.6, 1GB ram, geforce 7600 GT 256 MB
[10:21] <TandECU> u can connect to my vnc if you want
[10:21] <orionrobots> European-African: It uses a cards 3d stuff - you need a reasonably recent card.
[10:21] <XDS2010> yeah axisys do "apt-get update" && "apt-get install glut"  or "apt-get install freeglut"
[10:21] <oddalot> onionrobots sweet, yeah, that would be cool
[10:21] <European-African> kelvin911: nvidia 8500 gt
[10:21] <ere4si> sortudo_78: I would use the eth0 first then set up wireless - is your router set up?
[10:21] <kelvin911> European-African: maybe 3.2 not 3.6 i cant remember
[10:21] <orionrobots> European-African: You dont need a dual core, I had it on a 1.6ghz AMD.
[10:21] <XDS2010> TandECU:  what issues are you having ?
[10:21] <orionrobots> The 8500 is MORE than enough.
[10:22] <axisys> XDS2010: why do I need glut.. I see there is a appearance under system->preference
[10:22] <European-African> ok thanx. will install now
[10:22] <mingers> i'm new to ubuntu and setting up a server
[10:22] <starcannon> yeah I run compiz on an old xp cpu and a 6600 gt card, runs smooth and sweet
[10:22] <XDS2010> axisys:  you said you wanted version 8 right ?
[10:22] <mingers> i have two physical hard drives
[10:22] <mingers> can i merge them into one logical drive?
[10:22] <axisys> XDS2010: i am on ubuntu version 8.04
[10:23] <starcannon> I even run compiz on an asus Eee 4g no problem
[10:23] <XDS2010> nnnno
[10:23] <kelvin911> European-African: i install compiz on my uncles old computer and it works
[10:23] <XDS2010> axisys:  you said you wanted version 8 of compiz right ?
[10:23] <axisys> XDS2010: no
[10:23] <kelvin911> European-African: it is p4 1.2
[10:23] <kelvin911> 512 MB ram
[10:23] <starcannon> I tried to run compiz on my gameboy, that however was a disaster
[10:23] <kelvin911> European-African: forgot the video card
[10:23] <axisys> XDS2010: I said i want compiz on my 8.04
[10:23] <orionrobots> oddalot: Cannot find the link.. But this came out on top of a search for "compare open source bulletin board systems" - http://www.siteground.com/forum_software.htm
[10:23] <kelvin911> axisys: compiz is already in 8.04
[10:23] <axisys> I just changed the visual effects to normal
[10:24] <European-African> any addintional stuff you might need other than dependencies? for compriz
[10:24] <XDS2010> axisys: well anyway the latest version of compiz requires glut and mesa 7.02 for your card
[10:24] <axisys> but it does not take the extra
 ere4si: Should i eneble roamming mode? ore diseble roaming mode?
[10:24] <TandECU> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=3523542&albumID=2087552&imageID=32804224
[10:24] <TandECU> anyone got anything like this?
[10:24] <kelvin911> in appearance | visual effect.  choose extra
[10:24] <axisys> XDS2010: i guess i could give that a shot
[10:24] <orionrobots> European-African: If you already have a recent ubuntu, you already have the desktop effects - you just need to enable them.
[10:24] <oddalot> i installed an older version of firefox, now in xhat when i click on a link nothing happens, how do i fix this?
[10:24] <oddalot> onionrobots: thanks
[10:24] <starcannon> European-African compiz is included in Gutsy 7.10 as well as Hardy 8.04 nothing to install except maybe compiz manager which lets you have more control over things
[10:24] <ere4si> sortudo_78: roaming is for the wireless - give it a shot - yes
[10:25] <European-African> ok thanx
[10:25] <European-African> where do u enable?
[10:25] <axisys> XDS2010: i will follow this now `"apt-get update" && "apt-get install glut"'
[10:25] <axisys> XDS2010: or should I get freeglut?
[10:25] <starcannon> European-Africant System-Preferences-Appearance Visual Effects
[10:25] <ariqs> when i hit ctr-z in a terminal, the process stops, but it keeps taking up memory. how do I get rid of it altogether?  do I have to use kill?
 Please! I just installed Ubuntu 8.4 but i could not get internet connection, i have 4 modes to connect: 1> wireless , Atheros AR5007eg  2> PCMCIA CDMA Modem Yiso C893, 3> Wired cable, Realtek 8139 family, 4> Serial modem, Not detected. Please! Give a step by step to connect on the Internet !!!
[10:26] <XDS2010> axisys: im just not sure what glut is called in ubuntu
[10:26] <axisys> kelvin911: i am on extra now.. but my workspace slides instead of rotating
[10:26] <XDS2010> try "apt-get search glut | less"
[10:26] <kelvin911> wait
[10:26] <L_inf> European-African:  simple-ccsm is the manager, its great
[10:26] <popey> ariqs: ctrl+z pauses the process, it doesn't kill it, that's working correctly
[10:27] <popey> ariqs: if you want to kill something, use ctrl+c, not ctrl+z
[10:27] <TandECU> tudo78 what kinda internet do u have
[10:27] <ariqs> popey: i understand it's working properly, but is there a key combo for killing it?
[10:27] <European-African> starcannon: does it also work in kde?
[10:27] <kelvin911> enable desktop cube
[10:27] <ariqs> thanks, that's what I was asking. :P
[10:27] <European-African> L_inf: thanx will try
[10:27] <kelvin911> and rotate cube
[10:27] <XDS2010> anyone here using a slingbox ?
[10:27] <ariqs> popey: how do you start it after it's paused?
[10:27] <popey> ariqs: fg
[10:27] <kelvin911> axisys: desktop cube and rotate cube
[10:28] <starcannon> axisys you need to install comizconfig-settings-manager
[10:28] <Raelic> Hey, I can't get grub to work
[10:28] <axisys> XDS2010: you can also just ask me to search glut.. i know the syntax.. saving u from some typing..
[10:28] <L_inf> European-African: your welcome
[10:28] <mingers> can the mount point for a drive be an existing directory in the file system?
[10:28] <kelvin911> axisys: also cube cap to change the top and bottom image
[10:28] <mingers> i.e.
[10:28] <mingers> my main parittion has /var
[10:28] <ariqs> thanks, what does fg stand for? ;P
[10:28] <Raelic> I think my grub is uninstalled or something
[10:28] <starcannon> European-African I have heard of it working there, but I have not used KDE in over 5 years, so I have no first hand knowledge
[10:28] <boby> hi all
[10:28] <mingers> then i mount a second drive at var also
[10:28] <kelvin911> axisys: also the rotating background
[10:28] <tech0007> sortudo_78: dmesg | grep eth0
[10:28] <XDS2010> axisys:  sorry didn't know you knew :P
[10:28] <sortudo_78> TandECD: i have 4 internet kinde, wirelss network, wired network, serial modem dielad, ore PCMCIA modem dieled, mobile CDMA 3G !!!
[10:28] <XDS2010> anyone here using a slingbox ?
[10:28] <Raelic> I typed sudo fdisk -l and it came up with the stuff
[10:29] <European-African> starcannon: ok, thanx for all the help
[10:29] <axisys> XDS2010: np.. i have been using ubuntu since dapper drake
[10:29] <Raelic> How do I tell grub where my HDD are?
[10:29] <Misplaced_girl> hm. can someone here help me with installing Ati Radeon 9250 Drivers? pls =)
[10:29] <Raelic> Like I mean
[10:29] <Raelic> How can I tell grub where my linux partition is?
[10:29] <TandECU> sortudo 78 i sent u a pm,check
[10:30] <pen> have anyone tried ext4 yet?
[10:30] <starcannon> Raelic HD the first is (hd0)  and HD the first, partition the first would be (hd0,1)  and HD the second would be (hd1) etc..
[10:30] <cgentry72> There are certain things that are no longer showing up in the system tray. Can someone tell me what may be the cause (ie. Xchat, pidgin etc)
[10:30] <ikonia> pen: yes
[10:30] <pen> ikonia, how was it?
[10:30] <ikonia> pen: you may want to take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <sortudo_78> TandECU: Thanks, where is it ?
[10:30] <Raelic> okay
[10:30] <pen> ikonia, ok, will you be there?
[10:30] <Raelic> thanks
[10:30] <ikonia> pen: fine but realy, pop into #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat about it
[10:31] <kelvin911> ext4?
[10:31] <TandECU> look at the top of this window and almost to the right, youll see my name
[10:31] <kelvin911> new fs?
[10:31] <European-African> you know there is such great help in this forum they should make a irc command to thank people quicker:)
[10:31] <TandECU> if u cant find it then just double click my name in here and it will pop up
[10:31] <sortudo_78> TandECU: Please, send it again, i do not receve nothing :(
[10:32] <Raelic> grub> root (hd0,1)
[10:32] <Raelic> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[10:32] <axisys> starcannon: thnx..
[10:32] <ikonia> Raelic: that's not the correct disk then
[10:32] <starcannon> axisys anytime
[10:32] <Raelic>  /dev/sda1   *           1        9327    74919096   83  Linux
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Raelic: if it is your first hd than for grub it would be (0,0)
[10:33] <TandECU> i sent it again, if you dont see it then double click my name, then we will be in a pm room for just the two of use so i can walk u thru and see if i may be of service tonight
[10:33] <ikonia> RemoteViewer: sda is not always hd0
[10:33] <cgentry72> There are certain things that are no longer showing up in the system tray. Can someone tell me what may be the cause (ie. Xchat, pidgin etc)
[10:33] <ikonia> Raelic: sorry, that was for you
[10:33] <mohamed_> hello all , i installed pptp client and adjust it , but i don't know how to connect to vpn server, is there command or icon that can used for this, anyone can help ?
[10:33] <ikonia> Raelic: /dev/sda is not always hd0
[10:33] <ikonia> Raelic: also look at your boot.map in your /boot directory/partition
[10:34] <gnomefreak> Raelic: grub is always hd# -1
[10:34] <ikonia> gnomefreak: depending on the boot.map and extended partitions though
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:34] <ikonia> gnomefreak: thats the key
[10:34] <Raelic> This is from /boot/grub
[10:34] <Raelic> (hd0)	/dev/sda
[10:34] <Raelic> (hd1)	/dev/sdb
[10:34] <gnomefreak> ikonia: grub always uses 1 less than boot map
[10:35] <jatt> mohamed_: pon vpn_tunnel_script
[10:35] <jatt> with vpn_tunnel_script the provider file you specified in /etc/ppp/peers
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ikonia: if it doesnt it would be something i have never heard of nor seen
[10:35] <mohamed_> thx jatt
[10:35] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I meant device.map
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ikonia: ah
[10:35] <ikonia> Raelic: not /boot/boot.map, actually /boot/device.map
[10:35] <TandECU> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< double click where the arrows are pointingsortudo_78
[10:36] <Raelic> Ikonia: That's where I am
[10:36] <Raelic> My grub file is EMPTY!!!
[10:36] <ikonia> Raelic: well, done, typo on my part
[10:36] <Raelic> :i
[10:36] <ikonia> Raelic: which grub file ?
[10:36] <Raelic> :/
[10:36] <TandECU> and send a simple message to let me know thatrs ur still alive
[10:36] <gnomefreak> Raelic: was this an update?
[10:36] <TandECU> lol
[10:36] <gnomefreak> Raelic: sorry upgrade?
[10:36] <Raelic> No
[10:36] <Raelic> Just randomly didn't work anymore
[10:36] <Raelic> I'm in the livedisc
[10:37] <ikonia> Raelic: which grub file is empty foryou ?
[10:37] <cgentry72> There are certain things that are no longer showing up in the system tray. Can someone tell me what may be the cause (ie. Xchat, pidgin etc)
[10:37] <Raelic> default
[10:37] <XDS2010> if anyone needs a hired linux gun im your man
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Raelic: a name would be better than default
[10:37] <llehner> hello @ all is there a way to set the system volume in the terminal?
[10:37] <tech0007> Raelic: tried qgrubeditor?
[10:37] <ikonia> Raelic: there is no such file as "default"
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Raelic: hint dont install grub2 as it may not work
[10:37] <sortudo_78> TandECU: please send an Ok, in pm room !!!!
[10:37] <ikonia> tech0007: whoaaaa slow down
[10:37] <jatt> llehner: alsamixer
[10:37] <ikonia> tech0007: lets understand the situation
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ikonia: when was the last time you saw grub justt stop working?
[10:38] <Raelic> /boot/grub/default.txt
[10:38] <ikonia> gnomefreak: never
[10:38] <starcannon> cgentry r-click on panel and add notification area, I'm thinking you may have somehow removed it by mistake
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ikonia: my point :)
[10:38] <llehner> ok
[10:38] <ikonia> Raelic: thats not a grub file
[10:38] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I know
[10:38] <cgentry72> starcannon, there it is thanks :)
[10:38] <TandECU> i swear i keep sending you messages but i dont think u have the right window open
[10:38] <ikonia> Raelic: who told you to use /boot/grub/default.txt ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Raelic: try /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[10:38] <TandECU> lol
[10:38] <starcannon> cgentry72 anytime
[10:38] <Raelic> There is heaps in here
[10:39] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i saw this when someone installeed grub2
[10:39] <TandECU> like i said,just double click my name and it should take u to the pm,i think thats the best way
[10:39] <Raelic> Ikonia: some douche on another irc
[10:39] <cgentry72> starcannon, btw, do you use frostwire?
[10:39] <European-African> what do you think is the best software for running virtual machines?
[10:39] <tech0007> European-African: virtualbox
[10:39] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I think you can take this........
 Please! I just installed Ubuntu 8.4 but i could not get internet connection, i have 4 modes to connect: 1> wireless , Atheros AR5007eg  2> PCMCIA CDMA Modem Yiso C893, 3> Wired cable, Realtek 8139 family, 4> Serial modem, Not detected. Please! Give a step by step to connect on the Internet !!!
[10:40] <ikonia> sortudo_78: calm down
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ikonia: please god no you can have it ill just watch i promise ;)
[10:40] <European-African> tech0007: ok thanx
[10:40] <ikonia> sortudo_78: we can wrok this through
[10:40] <ikonia> work
[10:40] <tech0007> sortudo_78: what does ifconfig say?
[10:40] <sortudo_78> ikonia, i am sory
[10:40] <Misplaced_girl> can someone tell me how to enable bass and 5,1 system in ubuntu 8.04
[10:40] <starcannon> cgentry72 whats frostwire?
[10:40] <cgentry72> starcannon, it's like limewire
[10:40] <ikonia> sortudo_78: tell me a little about your system /setup
[10:40] <Misplaced_girl> c
[10:40] <ikonia> sortudo_78: you want to have a wired connection to the internet yes/no ?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> ok Raelic can you pastebin the output of the command ls -a when cd'ed into /boot/grub?
[10:41] <sortudo_78> ikonia yes
[10:41]  * gnomefreak is assuming you have chrooted into your installed version from live disk?
[10:41] <starcannon> nah i just use torrent
[10:42] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, so what are you connecting to via the ethernet cable, a ADSL router for example ?
[10:42] <sortudo_78> ikonia: my ethernet adapter is relatek 8139 and it is well configured
[10:42] <akun> help: what is the kernel version in hardy heron final? i need to download the modem driver and for one thing don't want to reboot to ubuntu before getting the file which ASKS me the kernel version....
[10:43] <ikonia> akun: 2.6.24
[10:43] <stippi> hi all, I have problems with my network setup, I can only get it to work when I physically switch off WLAN. Only then will Ubuntu use my LAN connection and configure it via DHCP. Why can't it just notice that WLAN does not work and use the LAN connection as a fallback?
[10:43] <tech0007> akun: 2.6.24-16
[10:43] <akun> ikonia: thanks a lot
[10:43] <TandECU> sortudo_78 do you have a lan set up for the ethernet?
[10:43] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, so what are you connecting to via the ethernet cable, a ADSL router for example ?
[10:43] <sortudo_78> ikonia: i connet to a Dlink Di524 router
[10:43] <TandECU> do u have dhcp enabled or static ip?
[10:44] <sortudo_78> ikonoa it uses DHCP
[10:44] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, so you connect from your PC to a DSL router via eithernet.
[10:44] <ikonia> sortudo_78: perfect, thank you
[10:44] <TomArrow> akun: did you ever figure out your sond
[10:44] <akun> help: there is only modem driver for k2.6.22_14 which doesn't match hardy's kernel. is it a good idea to install it anyway?
[10:44] <ikonia> sortudo_78: as you have so many network cards I'd like to narrow a few things down. Do you have physical access to the m achine now ?
[10:44] <starcannon> ikonia is there a room for ubuntu servers? I'm trying to set one up
[10:44] <TandECU> sortudo_78 do you have any other systems connected thru the d link that have active internet connections?
[10:44] <ikonia> starcannon: sure, if you hang on you'll be got to
[10:44] <tech0007> akun: better to compile it from source, you need the 2.6.24 kernel headers
[10:45] <ikonia> starcannon: channels just a little busy, so your on the list
[10:45] <sortudo_78> ikonia: the machine is on my side:
[10:45] <starcannon> ikonia cool thanks :)
[10:45] <gnomefreak> ikonia:  hes not even here is he?
[10:45] <ikonia> sortudo_78: perfect. Lets check the physical stuff first enough
[10:45] <kuahara> wish I understood what windows meant by "preparing for download"
[10:45] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I didn't see him leave
[10:45] <sortudo_78> ok
[10:45] <gnomefreak> me neither but im dont get his nick from tab
[10:45] <akun> tech0007: ><
[10:45] <ikonia> sortudo_78: can you open a terminal please and type the following "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[10:45] <ikonia> gnomefreak: thats helpful.....
[10:45] <gnomefreak> 05:40 -!- Raelic [n=ubuntu@219-90-236-25.ip.adam.com.au] has left #ubuntu
[10:46] <gnomefreak> oh well thanks i get the easy job :)
[10:46]  * gnomefreak runs for smoke
[10:46] <sortudo_78> ikonia: i have a cable modem ad a ap wirelles router with 4 rj45 ports
[10:46] <kuahara> it spends longer preparing than the entire download should take if it just did it
[10:46] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, we'll get to that
[10:46] <sortudo_78> yes
[10:46] <ikonia> sortudo_78: can you please open a terminal and do "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[10:46] <akun> tech0007: ok, what packages do I need to install before being able to compile the drivers?
[10:47] <ikonia> starcannon: your not forgot about, we'll get to you.
[10:47] <tech0007> akun: build-essentials & headers
[10:47] <starcannon> ikonia no worries your doing great, i'm patient, will help on issues I feel I can whilst I wait
[10:48] <akun> tech0007: about build-essentials & headers: is there any way I can easily download the deb files from this windows to later install it with dpkg
[10:48] <akun> ?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> akm1: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:48] <sortudo_78> ikonia: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timeout
[10:48] <gnomefreak> akun: ^^^
[10:48] <XDS2010> any slingbox users use ubuntu ?
[10:48] <kuahara> status bars own MS.  its downloading, but the bar looks as though it hasn't even started (downloading SP2)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> akun: make sure you stay within your version of ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, so you have a window open with "tail -f /var/log/messages" running yes ?
[10:49] <akun> gnomefreak: thx
[10:49] <tech0007> akun: yep, but u need to know the dependencies (ie, other packages needed to install the two)
[10:49] <ikonia> kuahara: why are you telling us this ?
[10:49] <sortudo_78> ikonia: eth-: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
[10:50] <kuahara> because its important information
[10:50] <kuahara> write it down
[10:50] <ikonia> kuahara: not for an ubuntu channel.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> tech0007: chances are he has them on an installed ubuntu buildessential is part of the toolchain
[10:50] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, I want you to unplug your network cable in your PC - not the router, just the PC
[10:50] <kuahara> yoobun2
[10:50] <llehner> can anyone help me with alsamixer
[10:50]  * gnomefreak grabs popcorn and watches this
[10:50] <sortudo_78> ikonia: unpluged
[10:51] <ikonia> sortudo_78: did you see in the tail window "eth0 link down"
[10:51] <ikonia> sortudo_78: of something close to those words
[10:51] <ikonia> or
[10:51] <European-African> what is the best way to partition a 350 gb harddisk?
[10:51] <kalisoliso> llehner: what problem?
[10:51] <sortudo_78> ikonia: no i is just black icons
[10:51] <llehner> how can i set volume in the cmd
[10:51] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok replug the cable back in, keeping an eye on the window with tail -f /var/log/messages running
[10:51] <kalisoliso> from command line?
[10:52] <tech0007> llehner: amixer
[10:52] <llehner> yes
[10:52] <ikonia> sortudo_78: you should get a message that says "eth0/1/2/3 Link up 100mb full duplex"
[10:52] <starcannon> European-African 128mb for /boot, swap >= your ram, big drive so give /  some elbow room say 30gb, and rest to /home
[10:52] <sortudo_78> ikonia: no changes on the window
[10:52] <ikonia> sortudo_78: and that window is still running tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:53] <kalisoliso> llehner, tech0007 have posted a solution! ;)
[10:53] <kalisoliso> thanks to him
[10:53] <sortudo_78> ikonia: no changes on /var/log/messages
[10:53] <kelvin911> 350GB hd?
[10:53] <European-African> starcannon: ok thanx again, should i put swap at the end of the disk?
[10:53] <llehner> i saw it
[10:53] <tech0007> kalisoliso: for what?
[10:53] <llehner> thx very much
[10:53] <ikonia> sortudo_78: could you try a different network card port on your system please
[10:53] <cgentry72> has anyone got frostwire to work in hardy
[10:53] <kelvin911> i would say give 50GB for C, 50GB for D both ntfs
[10:54] <kelvin911> and the rest to ubuntu
[10:54] <European-African> kelvin911: yes
[10:54] <starcannon> European-African only if your worried about every last nano second of speed, otherwise put it wherever the math is easiest to do, hehe I just stuff it in after i set up boot /shrug
[10:54] <alastair_> How do I stop my monitors from turning off after idle time?
[10:54] <European-African> ok thanx
[10:54] <sortudo_78> ikonia: at my router the ubuntu port is the only one that does not blink !!!
[10:55] <tech0007> alastair_: power management
[10:55] <ikonia> sortudo_78: thats clear, hence why I'm asking you to try another card on your m achine
[10:55] <ikonia> machine
[10:55] <alastair_> "Turn off monitors: never"?
[10:55] <tech0007> alastair_: yep
[10:55] <alastair_> tech0007: that doesn't work
[10:56] <alastair_> Is there something I can kill/edit/remove/create to stop it even trying?
[10:56] <kelvin911> European-African: u do gaming right?
[10:56] <European-African> yes
[10:56] <sortudo_78> ikonia: i changed the router port but notebook just have 1 etheternet rj45 port
[10:56] <European-African> alot
[10:56] <akun2> help: AFAIK build-essentials is in the ubuntu CD for dapper. do i really need to download it in hardy (e.g., is it not in the hardy CD?)?
[10:56] <kelvin911> European-African: what games do u play?
[10:56] <tech0007> alastair_: go to screensaver and uncheck 'regard computer as idle after'
[10:56] <alastair_> Alternatively, is there a fix for the ATi/xinerama problem where only one monitor turns off and it won't wake up?
[10:56] <adam7> alastair_: you can use xset to disable it, I think but I don't remember the exact syntax, so man xset :)
[10:56] <ikonia> sortudo_78: what..... you said you had multiple network interfaces
[10:56] <perlmonkey> hi, I just bought a webcam but can't get it to work, can anyone help me?
[10:56] <European-African> diablo 2, gta all, ..
[10:57] <ikonia> sortudo_78: so your working on a laptop
[10:57] <European-African> sister plays sims
[10:57] <kelvin911> i do play gta too
[10:57] <sortudo_78> let me repeast for you
[10:57] <kelvin911> my fav is vice city and san andreas
[10:57] <starcannon> akun2 you'll need those packages to compile from source, or to install certain proprietary drivers
 Please! I just installed Ubuntu 8.4 but i could not get internet connection, i have 4 modes to connect: 1> wireless , Atheros AR5007eg  2> PCMCIA CDMA Modem Yiso C893, 3> Wired cable, Realtek 8139 family, 4> Serial modem, Not detected. Please! Give a step by step to connect on the Internet !!!
[10:57] <European-African> kelvin911: gta 3 for me
[10:57] <kelvin911> European-African: what do u mean?
[10:58] <alastair_> Screensaver preferences has crashed :P
[10:58] <kelvin911> European-African: the one b4 vice city?
[10:58] <alastair_> xset it is
[10:58] <European-African> yes
[10:58] <starcannon> akun2 you'll need the ones specific to the kernel that ships with the version of ubuntu you use, so dapper headers and essentials wont work in hardy no
[10:58] <kelvin911> European-African: that one is buggy
[10:58] <akonkwa> what is the closest music player to Itunes for Ubuntu?
[10:58] <kelvin911> European-African: and slow
[10:58] <perlmonkey> hello everyone, I have a webcam which is supported by Linux (gspca driver) but for some reason its not working on any of the software I've tried to test it with. i can see the dev/video0 and its detected correctly in dmesg and lsusb, any ideas?
[10:58] <European-African> the car dinamics are of the hook
[10:58] <tech0007> akonkwa: i like rhythmbox
[10:58] <perlmonkey> anyone have any tips or suggestions for webcam in linux?
[10:59] <kelvin911> European-African: get san andreas
[10:59] <akun2> help: what is the ACTUAL package name for this "headers" thing? i searched in packages.ubuntu.com but it says "Your keyword was too generic."
[10:59] <alastair_> adam7: is it dpms I want to disable?
[10:59] <European-African> kelvin911: have got all gta's
[10:59] <tech0007> akun2: linux-headers-(your kernel)
[10:59] <adam7> alastair_: yep
[10:59] <European-African> including 2
[10:59] <perlmonkey> I just got this webcam called "Peak Bay" which I understand works under Linux, but for some reason I can't get my picture
[10:59] <kelvin911> wow
[10:59] <alastair_> ossum
[10:59] <ikonia> sortudo_78: ok, it looks like either your cable is dead or there is a hardware issue with one of the devices
[10:59] <kelvin911> i want to play gta 2
[10:59] <kelvin911> European-African: its classic
[11:00] <ikonia> starcannon: so what's the issues your having ?
[11:00] <perlmonkey> anyone got any advice re webcams under Linux, I've followed the howto for webcams
[11:00] <kelvin911> European-African: i remember i kill so many guys and cars and they dont spawn anymore
[11:00] <European-African> kelvin911: yes it is 2d, but it is th eonly game i have not finished
[11:00] <kelvin911> its hard to finish htat
[11:00] <European-African> kelvin911: in which gta?
[11:01] <starcannon> ikonia I'm setting up my first ever server, this is strictly an educational experience, I want to get good at it, but its not mission critical, so we can be as wild or mild as we want, that said, I'm at the Software Selection page of the server install disk
[11:01] <sortudo_78> ikonia: i tryed other cables, i got DNS IPs an domain name on ubuntu
[11:01] <perlmonkey> Hi all, I'm trying to setup a webcam, the driver seems to be loaded and the device detected (as seen in dmesg) yet i cant get it work.. is there anything I've missed?
[11:01] <kelvin911> European-African: u finish san andreas 100% ??
[11:01] <ikonia> sortudo_78: pardon ?
[11:01] <ikonia> sortudo_78: when you use another cable dos it light up
[11:01] <European-African> kelvin911: no not 100%
[11:01] <kelvin911> European-African: i can only finish the story but not all tags, horse shoes, jumps
[11:01] <starcannon> ikonia I am interested in industrial application not so much home media, which package or packages of server software would be my best choice?
[11:01] <akun2> TomArrow: yea the sound is working... it turned out I plugged it ito the "left" or whatever channel and I had to find the sliders from alsamixer
[11:01] <ikonia> starcannon: ok, first question, is this running on a bit of home kit
[11:02] <kelvin911> European-African: i finish driving school all gold that took me couple days
[11:02] <starcannon> ikonia yes, but its good gear not sloppy
[11:02] <perlmonkey> hello everyone, I just got this webcam which is supported by the gspca driver, but i can't get it work.. do I need to compile the driver into kernel? I have 2.6.20
[11:02] <European-African> kelvin911: did it in 1 day
[11:02] <sortudo_78> ikonia: would you like to try to install my pcmcia mobile cdma g3 modem, it uses very simple modules, i just need to install pcmcia moldules!
[11:02] <ikonia> starcannon: so my first tip is to use the ubuntu-desktop product rather than the server product, it's setup for home PC kit much better, it's a great learning tool and acts as a great serrver
[11:02] <kelvin911> European-African: all gold in one day?
[11:02] <cgentry72> has anyone got frostwire to work in hardy
[11:02] <kelvin911> European-African: what about flying school?
[11:02] <European-African> yip
[11:02] <adam7> starcannon: what do you want said server to do?
[11:02] <European-African> same
[11:02] <akun2> help: do I download "linux-headers-2.6.24-16" or "linux-headers-2.6.24-16-386"?
[11:02] <perlmonkey> Hi, can anyone help with webcam?
[11:02] <kelvin911> European-African: all gold in flying?
[11:02] <ikonia> sortudo_78: where did that come from, 2 minutes ago you wanted a wired connection to your DSL router
[11:03] <European-African> ya
[11:03] <kelvin911> European-African: i cant finish all gold in flying
[11:03] <tech0007> akun2: sudo apt-get install
[11:03] <DistroJockey> kelvin911, European-African : take it to offtopic please
[11:03] <perlmonkey> Hi all, I'm trying to setup a webcam under Ubuntu feisty
[11:03] <European-African> kelvin911: it is more difficult but u can do it
[11:03] <perlmonkey> anyone have any tips for webcam setup?
[11:03] <kelvin911> European-African: i got 100% on all 6 gf
[11:03] <starcannon> ikonia: adam7: this is a training run, speed is not a big issue here, authentic real world feel is, when i'm done learning it will never get booted again, the drive will be wiped and put back as storage
[11:03] <adam7> perlmonkey: if you're able, you might want to try Hardy or Gutsy
[11:03] <ikonia> perlmonkey: calm down asking every 2 minutes, As you can see the channel is busy, someone will get to you son
[11:03] <akun2> tech0007: no, i'm trying to select the package through packages.ubuntu.com. but I don't know which one is correct:  "linux-headers-2.6.24-16" or "linux-headers-2.6.24-16-386"?
[11:03] <perlmonkey> adam7: oh
[11:04] <sortudo_78> ikonia: i did not told you it is a dsl router, it is a wireless ap router with 4 rj45 ports
[11:04] <European-African> kelvin911: #gta-san
[11:04]  * perlmonkey remains calm
[11:04] <tech0007> akun2: what's the output of 'uname -r'
[11:04] <kelvin911> lets go there now
[11:04] <sortudo_78> ikonia:  i am sory, i am tryng the esyer way to connect to internet?
[11:04] <adam7> starcannon: if it has a reasonable processor and a monitor w/ mouse and keyboard, you might do as ikonia says, install the normal version of Ubuntu, which makes an awesome server
[11:04] <ikonia> starcannon: ok, so you want to install the desktop product to get support for your hardware as good as possible, then you can try exercises such as setting up a web server, with multiple sites, setting up a database server, linking a website to the database server, setting up ldap , linking the webservers auth to ldap etc etc.
[11:04] <ikonia> starcannon: start with a technology then build it up
[11:05] <starcannon> ikonia I'd prefer a cli environment as I understand that is the general way of things or so i'm told, i'm just wondering which packages to choose, Lamp, mail, print, samba openssh ?
[11:05] <kuahara> anyone else here dual boot ubuntu and xp pro?
[11:05] <akun2> tech0007: i'm on windows, but I have a pentium 4 celeron btw
[11:05] <perlmonkey> kuakara: me
[11:05] <ikonia> starcannon: you can use a command line environment from the desktop cd
[11:05] <cube_> kuahara what do you want about it?
[11:05] <kuahara> perlmonkey, have you downloaded xp sp3?
[11:05] <perlmonkey> setting up a webcam is the hardest thing I've done
[11:05] <ronino> hi
[11:05] <perlmonkey> kuakara: i have SP2
[11:05] <ikonia> starcannon: you can use xterms which make the learing process easier, or you can disable gnome and use it as a clommand line onl
[11:05] <ikonia> only
[11:05] <tech0007> akun2: go to System->Administrator->System Monitor
[11:05] <adam7> kuahara: I do
[11:05] <ikonia> kuahara: please stop talking about Windows XP
[11:05] <bracksisahobo> hey i installed compiz on my xubuntu system and I want to remove it and return to xfwm4 any help?
[11:05] <ikonia> kuahara: you have been asked multiple times
[11:05] <kuahara> ikonia, why should I
[11:05] <ronino> adept asked me whether to upgrade to 8.04, but I canceled that for the first time, now how can I restart that update manager?
[11:06] <starcannon> ikonia yes thats a good point actually
[11:06] <ikonia> kuahara: this is not the channel for it. Last request please.
[11:06] <enri_bass> hi
[11:06] <Java> hola
[11:06] <adam7> kuahara: if you're still having your partition problem, hop over to ##windows, we *only* help w/ ubuntu related problems
[11:06] <sortudo_78> ikonia: Please folow thise link! http://www.luxicomwireless.com/suporte/c893/manual_linux.pdf
[11:06] <enri_bass> hi java
[11:06] <perlmonkey> dual boot is easy
[11:06] <Java> alguien de Republica dominicana?
[11:06] <llehner> bb
[11:06] <kuahara> will sp3 effect my ubuntu install?  =p
[11:06] <perlmonkey> webservers, databases, nfs, all easy
[11:06] <starcannon> still not sure wich packages to choose though...
[11:06] <perlmonkey> webcam = hard
[11:06] <Java> some one for the dominican republic
[11:06] <bracksisahobo> no kuahara
[11:06] <Java> ??
[11:06] <cube_> kuahara no!
[11:06] <kuahara> adam7, I resolved the partition issue
[11:07] <adam7> starcannon: what kind of server do you want
[11:07] <adam7> kuahara: ah, that's good
[11:07] <kuahara> I just bagged them all with partition magic and recreated them
[11:07] <perlmonkey> does anyone have a webcam working under Linux?
[11:07] <perlmonkey> like..out of the box
[11:07] <ikonia> perlmonkey: many people do, but thats not going to help your issue. Tell us your issue / question and we can help
[11:07] <adam7> perlmonkey: yeah, mine work when I plug them in
[11:07] <enri_bass> chi boi diri?
[11:08] <Mindaxiz> same
[11:08] <kuahara> adam7, I PM'd you
[11:08] <adam7> perlmonkey: as ikonia says, models/version of ubuntu would be helpful
[11:08] <kuahara> so I wouldn't hurt ikonia's feelings
[11:08] <starcannon> adam7 i know for sure i want an openssh server outside of that I'm not sure what else I should be training myself in
[11:08] <tech0007> perlmonkey: webcam in eeepc works OTB
[11:08] <perlmonkey> my issue is, I got a new webcam and whilst its claimed to be supported in Linux with the gspca driver, i cannot get it to work..Ive followed all the howtos and guides, and i got the driver loaded, v4l etc, tried numerous software to get a webcam test picture, but its not showing
[11:08] <ikonia> starcannon: see my web service exmaple
[11:08] <cgentry72> has anyone got frostwire to work in hardy
[11:09] <adam7> starcannon: if you want to just play around, try installing apache/php/sql for a typical server setup
[11:09] <enri_bass> ciau
[11:09] <Nevstah> i'm trying to remove mailscanner from 8.04lts however get the error: http://pastebin.com/d54fa15f6 mailscanner starts/stops ok, but how do i remove it?
[11:09] <cube_> perlmonkey whats the output of dmesg when you plug it in?
[11:09] <starcannon> ikonia did i miss that sorry stuff went by fast for a moment earlier
[11:10] <bracksisahobo> pls help me
[11:10] <tech0007> Nevstah: sudo apt-get remove --reinstall
[11:10] <ikonia> starcannon: no problem, 1.) install a webserver 2.) install a webserver hosting multiple sites, 3.) install a database server 4.) make the webserver use the database server 5.) install ldap, make the webserver auth against ldap, 6.) install a mail service 7.) use the same ldap auth to auth your mail, 8.) link the webservice in
[11:10] <Gorthan> good morning guys
[11:10] <ghaith> hey, i have an ibm z60m with hardy installed, and i notice that it keeps shutting down for overheating, that happens mostly when i have evolution, netbeans, like 20 tabs in firefox and some other programs running, or now when i'm just running virtualbox, i first thought it was due to the desktop effects, but it just happened whith these turned off, what could be the problem?
[11:11] <adam7> bracksisahobo: sudo apt-get remove compiz
[11:11] <perlmonkey> cube_ it says new device using uhci_hcd and address 9
[11:11] <starcannon> ikonia perfect thanks loads
[11:11] <Myrtti> ghaith: type "top" without the quotes to a terminal
[11:11] <bracksisahobo> yeah tried killing all compiz but it just leaves me w/ no window manager
[11:11] <adam7> ghaith: if that's a laptop, you'll want to make sure that the thing is getting enough air under it
[11:11] <Nevstah> tech0007: thanks, am trying now
[11:11] <perlmonkey> cube_ says configuration #1 from 1 choice, SN9C10[12] PC Camera Controller detected
[11:11] <adam7> bracksisahobo: just run xfwm4 after you lose the WM
[11:12] <starcannon> ikonia: adam7: thanks to you both
[11:12] <ikonia> ghaith: thats sounds like a lot for a laptop to run
[11:12] <bracksisahobo> ok ill try that
[11:12] <Nevstah> tech0007: that failed too :(
[11:12] <adam7> starcannon: have fun with your server :)
[11:12] <ikonia> starcannon: welcome, if you have issues with any of that, come back for help. Easier to ask for help then mess it up and fix it
[11:12] <kuahara> is the server running on ubuntu?  =o
[11:12] <perlmonkey> cube_ (vid/pid 0x0C45/0x602C) 0V7630 image sensor detected Initialization succeeded
[11:12] <ghaith> adam7, yeah i guess that should be one of the problems, the temprature is getting to 94C, last time was 99
[11:12] <adam7> ghaith: that would be your problem
[11:12] <perlmonkey> cube_ V4L2 device registered as /dev/video0
[11:12] <ikonia> kuahara: thats freenodes issue and not on topic here either
[11:12] <perlmonkey> cube_ looks ok?
[11:12] <ikonia> kuahara: the channel is for ubuntu support questions only
[11:13] <cube_> perlmonkey endeed ^^
[11:13] <kuahara> ikonia, you were the one talking about webservers
[11:13] <ikonia> kuahara: yes, in an ubuntu support question
[11:13] <tech0007> Nevstah: first try sudo apt-get check
[11:13] <Nelson_Apart> How to change run level?
[11:13] <bond`> "apt-get update" fails:  Unable to connect to security.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <ghaith> ikonia, well i used to run more then that all the time, could it be the new kernel as well? i dont' run the vm together with the rest of the stuff ofcourse.. but usualy netbeans, firefox and evolution
[11:13] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: /etc/inittab
[11:13] <bracksisahobo> yeh thanx that works fine :) :)
[11:13] <kuahara> I think there's been more talk about questions appropriate for the channel than actual questions appropriate for the channel
[11:13] <ikonia> kuahara: then talk on topic then, and it will stop
[11:13] <perlmonkey> cube_ that looks ok?
[11:14] <cube_> perlmonkey your box regonized it, and set it to /dev/video. i think that there is no problem with installed drivers...
[11:14] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: or "init $runlevel" to do it dynamic
[11:14] <perlmonkey> cube_ I thought so, strange how all tests have failed tho
[11:14] <kuahara> ikonia are you some kinda admin here or something (with ubuntu installed!)
[11:14] <ikonia> kuahara: nope
[11:14] <tech0007> Nevstah: is it still i nstalled? dpkg -s mailscanner
[11:14] <cube_> perlmonkey did you set then the right input /dev/video?
[11:14] <cube_> *them
[11:14] <kuahara> then why bother with what other people are talking about
[11:15] <sortudo_78> ikonia: Please, work with me too ???
[11:15] <ikonia> kuahara: this is an offtopic chat, read the topic (type /topic) and the guide line links in it
[11:15] <perlmonkey> cube_ ya, can you recommend any failsafe test app for cam?
[11:15] <Myrtti> kuahara: because it's everybody's job to keep this channel usable
[11:15] <Nelson_Apart> ikonia, i just entered it but no respond
[11:15] <ikonia> sortudo_78: I'm totally lost at what you want
[11:15] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: what did you type ?
[11:15] <Nelson_Apart> i've tried 'init 3' and 'init $runlevel 3'
[11:15] <perlmonkey> I tried kopete to test webcam, it does not even show under devices
[11:16] <tech0007> sortudo_78: what does 'ifconfig' say?
[11:16] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: "sudo init 3"
[11:16] <Nelson_Apart> ok ikonia
[11:16] <Myrtti> perlmonkey: what does dmesg say?
[11:16] <Myrtti> !paste | perlmonkey
[11:16] <perlmonkey> I tried xawt-tv did not work at all, blank screen
[11:16] <Nelson_Apart> no respond again ikonia
[11:16] <perlmonkey> thanks
[11:16] <Hagen> how can I use VPN with Ubuntu?
[11:16] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: what do you expect it to do ?
[11:16] <Nevstah> tech0007: i did that, you can see output at http://pastebin.com/d402c0d99
[11:17] <BB88> Hello. I am Ubuntu 8.04, and ever since some security updates yesterday, my NTFS partition will not be mounted on startup, and when I try to mount it, it says I do not have the privilege to do so?
[11:17] <Nelson_Apart> ikonia,  i expect X would be disabled
[11:17] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: not at run level 3
[11:17] <NET||abuse> ok, i have located my drive, i have swap of /dev/sda1, main drive, / => /dev/sda2, so now there is just a /dev/sdb  so do i have to partition this drive? then mount it to a location such as /media/backup, then configure a big rsync job to mirror the whole /dev/sda1 drive?
[11:17] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: X runs at run level 3 on ubuntu
[11:17] <Myrtti> Hagen: install the appropriate vpn software from the package manager
[11:17] <Nelson_Apart> ikonia,  :-o
[11:17] <kas84> hi there
[11:17] <linuXXX_grl> hey
[11:17] <cube_> perlmonkey, i didnt try any of webcams, but google says that you could try "sudo apt-get install camorama" and "camorama -d /dev/video"
[11:17] <NET||abuse> sorry, i'll be mirroring /dev/sda2, not 1 as that's swap
[11:17] <Nelson_Apart> ikonia,  so what should the runlevel be
[11:17] <tech0007> Nevstah: now sudo apt-get --reinstall mailscanner
[11:17] <linuXXX_grl> where do i find some audio drivers. so music wold work okay???
[11:18] <perlmonkey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10713/
[11:18] <babolat> !sound | linuXXX_grl
[11:18] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: X is  enabled v by default at run level 2 and on wards
[11:18] <perlmonkey> cube_ thanks I will try
[11:18] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: you have to disable it at the run level you want it to run at
[11:18] <BB88> Hello. I am Ubuntu 8.04, and ever since some security updates yesterday, my NTFS partition will not be mounted on startup, and when I try to mount it, it says I do not have the privilege to do so?
[11:18] <starcannon> linuXXX_grl can you open the mixer aka speaker in upper right corner of your screen (assuming gnome)
[11:19] <cube_> perlmonkey, np and its "camorama -d /dev/video0" not /dev/video :)
[11:19] <Nevstah> tech0007: reinstall errored... E: Invalid operation mailscanner
[11:19] <ikonia> BB88: can you show me the command your using to mount it
[11:19] <perlmonkey> cube_ "could not connect to /dev/video0 please check connection"
[11:19] <linuXXX_grl> !sound
[11:19] <babolat> BB88: check your users and groups
[11:19] <Nelson_Apart> ikonia,  so what runlevel should i use if i want X disabled
[11:19] <sortudo_78> ikonia: I am sory if i am confused, it Should be becose my defoult language is portuges, but please be patient we will work well togeter. <> i am trying the esyer way to get internet connection, we have 2 possibilities, install PCMCIA modules or fix ehternet adaptar bugs, whitch way do you prefere ?
[11:19] <perlmonkey> im screwed?
[11:19] <BB88> ikonia, I am just double clicking it :D
[11:19] <spuck> I'm srewed
[11:19] <Myrtti> perlmonkey: try camstream?
[11:19] <kas84> ubottu,  does that solve if you have sound but flash kind of... locks the sound?
[11:19] <ajsfdkljaskl> help: where's this "Hardware manager" thing that a person said to be under "preferences"? I for one need to know what hardware my Ubuntu has detected. using harding.
[11:19] <babolat> spuck: how so?
[11:20] <ikonia> Nelson_Apart: I'll explain it again. X is enabled at run level 2 onwards, so unless you want to use single user mode (run level 1) you'll need to disable/remove X from run level 2 onwards
[11:20] <tech0007> Nevstah: doesnt make sense....ok now sudo apt-get remove --purge mailscanner
[11:20] <BB88> babolat, I am the only user/administrator on this machine.
[11:20] <perlmonkey> Myrtti will try
[11:20] <xim__> does anyone know how to change "powermizer" settings for nvidia video hardware?
[11:20] <spuck> that's not even a word
[11:20] <starcannon> ajsfdkljaskl in terminal type sudo lshw
[11:20] <ajsfdkljaskl> help: where's this "Hardware manager" thing that a person said to be under "preferences"? I for one need to know what hardware my Ubuntu has detected. using "hardy", i mean.
[11:20] <Myrtti> perlmonkey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/132701
[11:20] <kas84> ok, that's a bot... lol
[11:20] <cube_> perlmonkey, whats the output of "cd /dev""ls video*"
[11:20] <BB88> ikonia, sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2/media/disk -o force
[11:21] <xim__> I learned (oddly) that i can add windows dword values for prop. nvidia drivers in xorg.conf but all my suppositions about syntax are wrong and lead to nightmares of x not starting until i undo them etc :(
[11:21] <babolat> BB88: try stepping back your updates so that its easier for you to trace back the cause of this problem
[11:21] <ikonia> BB88: and what error does that give you (I assume there is a space between /dev/sda2 and /media/disk"
[11:21] <Nevstah> tech0007: same error :( Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[11:21] <Nevstah>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[11:21] <xim__> anybody got powermizer for nvidia working!?
[11:21] <starcannon> xim_ sudo nvidia-settings
[11:21] <xim__> ehm
[11:21] <BB88> ikonia, yes
[11:21] <xim__> thanks, but you can't change anything there
[11:21] <xim__> just *SEE* settings
[11:22] <ikonia> BB88: what error does that give you ?
[11:22] <xim__> and, in my case, they're wrong
[11:22] <xim> hey whos xim but mee
[11:22] <perlmonkey> cube_ video0 is there, and its user root, group video
[11:22] <kas84> anyone knows how to solve the problem with flash locking the soundcard?
[11:22] <xim> you made my notifications go off
[11:22] <xim__> who.. another xim!?
[11:22] <BB88> ikonia, "Cannot mount volume", "You are not privileged to mount this volume".
[11:22] <xim__> That's been my login for 2 months on my computer!
[11:22] <ikonia> BB88: ls -la /dev/sda2
[11:22] <tech0007> Nevstah: ok got it, sudo apt-get if install
[11:22] <xim__> this irc client auto-chose that from my login
[11:23] <Myrtti> perlmonkey: type groups
[11:23] <BB88> ikonia, You've lost me. Here is what sudo fdisk -l gives me: http://pastebin.com/m60cc5725
[11:23] <xim__> starcannon: do you know how to change the reported settings in nvidia-settings ?
[11:23] <perlmonkey> Myrtti: video is listed under groups
[11:23] <Myrtti> ok
[11:23] <jarle> is there a way I can make a list if installed packages on a running system, and have the same list of packages installed on a new system?
[11:23] <xim__> currently, nvidia-settings has always just told me it's using the highest performance mode
[11:23] <perlmonkey> :-/
[11:23] <babolat> ajsfdkljaskl: $sudo lshw
[11:23] <ikonia> BB88: for arguments sake please do "sudo apt-get update2
[11:23] <tech0007> Nevstah: question, did u install mailscanner from the repo or deb.?
[11:23] <xim__> which kills an extra 6w on battery when this laptop is unplugged
[11:23] <Nevstah> tech0007: if is an invalid operation :(
[11:23] <xim__> !!
[11:23] <sortudo_78> ikonia: I know that you are busy, but please give a chance to me :)
[11:24] <Nevstah> repo
[11:24] <cube_> perlmonkey did you try to run camorama as root?
[11:24] <starcannon> xim_ i'm looking into it now i have a bunch of nvidia cards myself, and have been meaning to look into it, nows as good a time as any
[11:24] <linuXXX_grl> Can someone tell me why when im using any program. esspecialy when im minimising and maximising my music bugs??? :)
[11:24] <sortudo_78> ikonia: I am sory if i am confused, it Should be becose my defoult language is portuges, but please be patient we will work well togeter. <> i am trying the esyer way to get internet connection, we have 2 possibilities, install PCMCIA modules or fix ehternet adaptar bugs, whitch way do you prefere ?
[11:24] <ikonia> sortudo_78: I don't know what you want ??
[11:24] <perlmonkey> cube_ ya
[11:24] <BB88> ikonia, all done.
[11:24] <sortudo_78> ikonia: just conect to internet
[11:24] <xim__> starcannon: you'll find info is non-existant
[11:24] <ikonia> sortudo_78: the ethernet adapter is easier, but it sounds like your cable is dead
[11:24] <xim__> sadly
[11:24] <perlmonkey> cube_ but when I ran it from the shell as root, I got a big error message about permission denied
[11:24] <ikonia> BB88: ok, great, so sudo is working fine
[11:24] <sortudo_78> ikonia: sory, i am a beginner
[11:25] <xim__> starcannon: i can link you a developer (for windows) nvidia API paper i found
[11:25] <BB88> ikonia, Yes, that works fine :)
[11:25] <cube_> perlmonkey try to add your user in group video
[11:25] <perlmonkey> ok
[11:25] <ikonia> BB88: so "sudo mkdir /media/test && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/test"
[11:25] <Nevstah> tech0007: in installed on 6.06LTS, then upgraded to 8.04LTS, that what broke mailscanner
[11:25] <ikonia> sortudo_78: thats fine, everyone starts somewhere
[11:25] <ikonia> sortudo_78: it sounds like your cable is broke though as if the card/router does not light up on the ubuntu port thats base hardware failure
[11:25] <sortudo_78> xim: a tested the cable, and i got DNS configuration a domain name yet
[11:25] <perlmonkey> cube_ I'm already in video group
[11:26] <BB88> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d17fe6a84
[11:26] <NOT_XIM> i changed nicks, that was confusing even me :)
[11:26] <ikonia> BB88: I assume this isn't a raid disk
[11:26] <BB88> ikonia, problem is, I do not have windows installed, so can I run a chkdsk on ubuntu?
[11:26] <xim> haha
[11:26] <perlmonkey> cube_ root was not in the group tho
[11:27] <BB88> ikonia, SATA.
[11:27] <perlmonkey> cube_ should I add it?
[11:27] <tech0007> Nevstah: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mailscanner, then sudo apt-get remove --purge mailscanner
[11:27] <iceman84x> hi all
[11:27] <ikonia> BB88: I'm afraid you can't chkdisk it in ubuntu
[11:27] <iceman84x> c sono italiani???
[11:27] <BB88> So how can I fix it? lol
[11:27] <babolat> !it | iceman84x
[11:27] <ikonia> BB88: there is a free product called "emergency repair disk" or "ERP", its a windows enviornment on a CD. Use that
[11:27] <zeitx> anyone know how to make logitech mouse buttons work as keystroke
[11:27] <cube_> perlmonkey try, you have almost nothing to lose :D
[11:28] <NOT_XIM> starcannon: http://developer.download.nvidia.com/SDK/9.5/Samples/DEMOS/common/src/NvCpl/docs/NVControlPanel_API.pdf
[11:28] <BB88> ikonia, What about fsck?
[11:28] <perlmonkey> when you add new user to group is there a command to update the groups?
[11:28] <ikonia> BB88: won't work on ntfsd
[11:28] <cube_> perlmonkey, check google if someone else have similar problems with your webcam.
[11:28] <ikonia> BB88: ntfs
[11:28] <xukun> what is the best to updrade from gutsy to 8.04 or new installation?
[11:28] <Nevstah> tech0007: apt-get install --reinstall mailscanner failed :(
[11:28] <BB88> :(
[11:28] <perlmonkey> i hate setting up hardware in Linux :-/
[11:28] <perlmonkey> its worse than pulling teeth often
[11:29] <BB88> ikonia, that is the only solution?
[11:29] <SabreWolfy> wow what a busy channel! :) Anyone able to help with a quick question about screen resolutions in Xubuntu? Noone on #Xubuntu could help
[11:29] <ikonia> BB88: thats the best I can offer you
[11:29] <Myrtti> Nevstah: you've tried already dpkg --configure -a
[11:29] <BB88> ikonia, Ok thank you for your help.
[11:29] <tech0007> Nevstah: ok i'm searching the forums, sudo dpkg –force-remove-reinstreq –remove mailscanner
[11:29] <ikonia> BB88: there is no "linux" solution
[11:29] <DistroJockey> xukun, go a clean install if you can
[11:29] <babolat> xukun: clean install worked for me.. but many have successfully done the upgrade via altrernate CD
[11:29] <Nevstah> tech0007: thanks
[11:29] <BB88> ok
[11:29] <babolat> !ask | SabreWolfy
[11:29] <zeitx> ﻿anyone know how to make logitech mouse buttons work as keystroke ex: mouse button 5 does Control+W
[11:30] <kuahara> I just created a secondary and tertiary partition.  The secondary partition I am going to format NTFS and I want it to be accessible by both windows and ubuntu.  The tertiary partion is 35GB and this is where I want to install Ubuntu.  2 questions.  1, what do I need to do to successfully setup the dual boot and 2, does the ext3 file format that I need to use in the third partition have to be formatted by a linux os?
[11:30] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> BOOL nvGetPwrMzrLevel(OUT DWORD* pdwBatteryLevel,
[11:30] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> OUT DWORD* pdwACLevel);
[11:30] <xukun> DistroJockey, babolat thnaks guys
[11:30] <perlmonkey> nuff time wasted. buy a new cam?
[11:30] <ikonia> kuahara: you should install ext3 from linux %100
[11:30] <DistroJockey> xukun, you're welcome
[11:30] <aaron_> hello fellow Ubuntu community :)
[11:30] <ikonia> kuahara: you should only install ubuntu onto the ext3 partition (just to be clear)
[11:30] <aaron_> Nelson, you should use runlevel 3 if you dont want X
[11:31] <kuahara> thats the only thing I can do with the ext3 partition as I don't think windows can even read it
[11:31] <aaron_> sortudo_78: sorry if I am just jumping in, but have you tried "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[11:31] <SabreWolfy> Question -- Xubuntu 8.04 login screen resolution is different to resolution when logged in; when logged in I've set it to 1024x768 which I want; login screen uses the "default" which is not what I want; no numerical values in xorg.conf so no idea where it gets "default" from; how can I sort it ?
[11:31] <interzone> Hi, I enabled nvidia in restricted drivers, does this mean that my graphics card is good and being used?
[11:31] <kuahara> but as long as the ext3 partition is a primary partition, I should be given the option to dual boot when I start the pc, correct?
[11:31] <case_> kuahara, the best strategy is to let the 35gB space as "free" and let the ubuntu installer do the ext3 partition in this space...
[11:31] <ikonia> aaron_: his cable is dead
[11:31] <starcannon> xim_ coolbits is something that seems to help, google around on that a bit, I'm doing a server install at the same time here, and will look more into this later, but that keyword should help you progress
[11:31] <Nevstah> tech0007: the force-remove didnt do anything.. wasnt recognised
[11:31] <ikonia> aaron_: no link lights
[11:31] <babolat> kuahara: also, u'll need to have ntfs-3g on that Ubuntu install of yours if u want ntfs access..
[11:31] <LaneLimited> !games
[11:31] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> yeah, i tried coolbits
[11:31] <kuahara> babolat, can't I already do that in 8.04
[11:32] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> thanks very much for any interest in my problem btw, starcannon
[11:32] <xim> haha my notifications keep going crazy
[11:32] <case_> kuahara, if you install ubuntu after windows, it will detect the windows system and set up the dual boot acordingly (thanks to Grub)
[11:32] <babolat> kuahara: it doesn't come by default..
[11:32] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> sorry (1st) xim
[11:32] <starcannon> np nvGet
[11:32] <kuahara> case_  thanks
[11:32] <aaron_> ikonia: ah...
[11:32] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> xim: i would have never guessed lol
[11:32] <ghis> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my sound. 1-2 times a day it just disperse... then i reboot and it's back again. Could i manually restart anything to get the same effect? (Hardy)
[11:32] <tech0007> Nevstah:  'sudo dpkg –force-remove-reinstreq –remove mailscanner'
[11:33] <kuahara> I used partition magic and created all 3 partitions before installing windows, but after I installed windows it deemed the 2nd ntfs part and the ext3 part as 100% unallocated space
[11:33] <babolat> kuahara: u might already know, but ext3 isnt natively supported by a Windows install just so u know and not get surprised ;)
[11:33] <tech0007> Nevstah: copypaste it
[11:33] <anabolix> does anyone know of any problems using screen 2 (display setting for a monitor hookup) when using ubuntu 8.04 on a sony laptop?
[11:33] <kuahara> so I had to create a new ntfs part in windows, effectively wrecking my ext3 partition
[11:33] <case_> ghaith, you can try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[11:33] <perlmonkey> interesting
[11:33] <ghis> iam using 2 monitors sony vaio laptop... hardy
[11:33] <ikonia> kuahara: install windows - create 1 partition, leaving blank space. Create the other 2 partitions during the ubuntu install
[11:33] <ikonia> kuahara: I assure you that will be the most straight forward way
[11:33] <case_> kuahara, also you probably want to have a swap partition for ubuntu...
[11:34] <perlmonkey> cube_ ekiga (soft phone) says Error while opening video device /dev/.static/dev/video0
[11:34] <kuahara> thats what I'm doing.  found out the hard way
[11:34] <ghis> anabolix: download the nvidia-settings program
[11:34] <anabolix> ghis: cause i had the problem with 7.04 and it screwed things up... by any chance did you try your monitors with 7.04?
[11:34] <babolat> kuahara: best thing is to let Ubuntu handle its own partitions
[11:34] <kuahara> I didn't know ubuntu would automatically take care of the dual boot though
[11:34] <kuahara> thats nice to know
[11:34] <Nevstah> tech0007: will do
[11:34] <ghis> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my sound. 1-2 times a day it just goes away... then i reboot and it's back again. Could i manually restart anything to get the same effect? (Hardy)
[11:34] <ronybeck> ghis: is there something wrong with the nvidia drivers in the apt repository?
[11:34] <ghis> anabolix: no
[11:35] <tech0007> Nevstah:  'sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq –remove' try this one instead
[11:35] <anabolix> ghis: are the settings in uni repos?
[11:35] <Nevstah> tech0007: copy/pasted, didnt work :(
[11:35] <ghis> anabolix: ?
[11:35] <cube_> perlmonkey if you didnt get captured picture in camorama, you wont get output in any one else...
[11:35] <ronybeck> Does anyone know where virt-manager keeps the configurations for virtual machines?
[11:35] <xim> its all good it just trips me out ive never seen anyone else use this name
[11:35] <kuahara> does it matter that the secondary ntfs partition that I created within windows is an extended partition?  Will ubuntu still be able to access it?
[11:35] <ikonia> ronybeck: what is "virt-manager" ?
[11:35] <anabolix> ghis: are they in the universe repositories?
[11:35] <cube_> perlmonkey_ what camera do you have?
[11:36] <ronybeck> ikonia, virtual machine manager
[11:36] <ikonia> kuahara: will be fine
[11:36] <ikonia> ronybeck: for what technology
[11:36] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> hmm, it appears powermizer in linux is very buggy
[11:36] <tech0007> Nevstah:  'sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq –-remove mailscanner' last one, if this doesnt work try the forums
[11:36] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> damned nvidia
[11:36] <ronybeck> ikonia, man virt-manager :P
[11:36] <ikonia> ronybeck: it's not on my system
[11:36] <ghis> anabolix: http://packages.ubuntu.com/sv/hardy/nvidia-settings
[11:36] <ronybeck> ikonia, what ever won you have installed.  KVM or qemu
[11:36] <kuahara> also, what happens when I use ubuntu to save linux files to the ntfs partition.  When I open that partition in windows, is it going to harm the files in any way?  Will they just show up as unrecognized files?
[11:36] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> i messed w/ stuff and *once* got the powermizer level to change to level 2 (vs usual 3)
[11:37] <ronybeck> ikonia, it isn't there because you didn't install it yet.
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> then rebooting to see if things stuck, it didn't... no change to xorg
[11:37] <ikonia> ronybeck: I know, thats why I asked you what it was for
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> Option "Coolbits" "integer"
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> Enables support in the NV-CONTROL X extension for manipulating GPU
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> clock settings. When this option is set to "1" the nvidia-settings
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> utility will contain a page labeled "Clock Frequencies" through which
[11:37] <nvGetPwrMzrLevel> clock settings can be manipulated.
[11:37] <FloodBot2> nvGetPwrMzrLevel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <xukun> !upgrade
[11:37] <tech0007> Nevstah: or u can use aptitude
[11:38] <Jafet> Lawl, my screen is 640x480.
[11:38] <SabreWolfy> Question -- Xubuntu 8.04 login screen resolution is different to resolution when logged in; when logged in I've set it to 1024x768 which I want; login screen uses the "default" which is not what I want; no numerical values in xorg.conf so no idea where it gets "default" from; how can I sort it ?
[11:38] <kuahara> is there SLi support in ubuntu?
[11:38] <Jafet> How do you change the display driver?
[11:38] <kuahara> I am using 2x 9600GT in SLi
[11:38] <anabolix> ghis: thanks, but what exactly am i installing? just a manager for graphics settings? cause im pretty sure i installed the nvidia drivers already
[11:39] <ikonia> kuahara: there is dual card compatbability, but the SLI support in the nvidia drives is nothing like as good as under windows
[11:39] <ghis> anabolix: a tool for setting up dual monitors
[11:39] <kuahara> do linux specific files show up as unrecognized files in windows?
[11:39] <ghis> anabolix: the ordinary display tool in ubuntu didn't work for me.. then i tried that one and then i worked
[11:40] <perlmonkey> wow I think I needed a new driver
[11:40] <kuahara> if the partition is shared between the 2
[11:40] <ikonia> kuahara: you won't be able to see or run them
[11:40] <kuahara> ikonia, thx
[11:40] <anabolix> ghis: thanks alot :D
[11:40] <Jafet> kuahara, Windows decides file type by extension.
[11:40] <ghis> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my sound. 1-2 times a day it just goes away... then i reboot and it's back again. Could i manually restart anything to get the same effect? (Hardy)
[11:40] <Nevstah> tech0007: that didnt work either :( thanks for your help, will try forums :)
[11:41] <tech0007> Nevstah: take a look at this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailscanner/+question/29018
[11:41] <ikonia> kuahara: actually thats not true, if your using a shared partition such as a fat32 one then both windows and ubuntu will be able to see the files, the file extention will depend if it is openable ( a text or video file for example )but not an application
[11:41] <Nevstah> tech0007: looking :)
[11:42] <kuahara> kk.  thx.  afk while it formats this secondary part
[11:42] <tech0007> Nevstah: according to another bug, its fixed in 4.68.8-1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailscanner/+bug/215932. good luck
[11:42] <Nyad> Hi. How do I play rm files without installing realplayer?
[11:43] <tech0007> Nyad: mplayer!
[11:43] <Nevstah> tech0007: cheers
[11:43] <Jafet> I'm using the nv driver and right now my screen resolution is 640x480 and the IRC scrollback is 10 lines. Should I switch back to vesa and how do I do that?
[11:44] <ikonia> Jafet: what video card do you have?
[11:44] <Jafet> A GeForce.
[11:44] <ikonia> gefore what
[11:44] <ikonia> 4,5,6,7,8
[11:44] <Jafet> 7, I guess.
[11:44] <ikonia> Jafet: are you sure ?
[11:44] <Jafet> So says the sticker.
[11:44] <perlmonkey> cube_ its a cheapo £3.50 "Peak Bay" camera
[11:44] <LaneLimited> lol
[11:44] <ronybeck> Does anyone know where virt-manager keeps the configurations for virtual machines?
[11:44] <ikonia> Jafet: ok, so you want to use the "nvidia" driver from the restricted driver manager
[11:45] <Jafet> ikonia, no luck with that. Anyway, isn't that just acceleration?
[11:45] <ikonia> ronybeck: I've just run it up, and it reads the configurations from the host
[11:45] <ikonia> Jafet: not just acceleration
[11:45] <ikonia> ronybeck: eg; it read my kvm vm's from my home dir
[11:45]  * nvGetPwrMzrLevel reboots
[11:45] <ikonia> ronybeck:  I didn't have to tell it where to look
[11:45] <ronybeck> ikonia, that much I know.  But what file holds the configuration on the host
[11:46] <ikonia> ronybeck:  well for kvm the actual image contains the data
[11:47] <Nevstah> tech0007: reading thru the bugs, it 'seems' to suggest i simply upgrade using the .deb do i understand right? coz that doesnt work either ;)
[11:48] <ronybeck> ikonia, where did you read that?
[11:48] <skp> I have sucessfully moved my Thunderbird profile from Windows to Linux, but the Calendar (Lightning) is not showing - what do I do?
[11:48] <tech0007> Nevstah: then u have to take to the forums where we a have larger audience :)
[11:49] <sre> hello. easy network setup for kubuntu ?
[11:50] <Nevstah> tech0007: will do :)
[11:50] <ronybeck> ikonia, so do you actually know the answer or are you just wasting my time here?
[11:50] <arnath> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without losing programs/settings/customizations/...?
[11:51] <jescis> So, you can use opengl in console/terminal mode?
[11:51] <tech0007> !ops
[11:51] <jrib> tech0007: yes?
[11:51] <derspankster> any awn users having trouble with the weather applet not functioning?
[11:51] <david__--> can someone please help me fix my wireless internet connection? It went out after upgrading to hard from gutsy
[11:51] <tech0007> jrib: sorry
[11:51] <Mez> tech0007, you asked for an op? how can we help?
[11:52] <jrib> tech0007: please don't do that unless there is a real emergency
[11:52] <Mez> !botabuse | tech0007
[11:52] <norty> Question: For some reason since ive installed the upgrades to ubuntu I am getting more system default alerts, or that annoying sound that comes out of your computer when there is an error, is there a way to disable that?
[11:52] <xim> !hardy
[11:52] <Nyad> I cant install realplayer. apt-get will autocomplete to realplayer. but when I try download the realplayer it says package not available but is referred to by another package
[11:52] <xim> how can i get a list of the ubuttu triggers?
[11:52] <Myrtti> Nyad: check your repositories
[11:53] <jrib> !realplayer > Nyad (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <sre> I am not familiar with kde4, what utility to use for managing network adapters. wireless connections and essid ?
[11:53] <LaneLimited> How do i get widgets for gnome? Also, how can download mouse pointers for GNOME? Thank you. please help
[11:53] <xim> how can i upgrade to hardy
[11:53] <tech0007> Nyad: http://www.real.com/linux
[11:53] <xim> do i just reinstall from scratch
[11:53] <jrib> !upgrade > xim (read the private message from ubotu)
[11:53] <xim> thx
[11:53] <mohamed_> !pptp > mohamed_
[11:54] <cgentry72> has anyone been able to get frostwire to work in hardy?
[11:54] <skp> is there a channel for thunderbird related questions
[11:54] <BOZG> cgentry72: Is it actually opening?  Or are you getting connection messages and you can't use it?
[11:55] <cgentry72> BOZG, tells me i need java 1.4
[11:55] <Jafet> skp, ask a Mozilla group.
[11:55] <tech0007> skp:  #thunderbird at irc.mozilla.org
[11:55] <maxb> How does the linux-restricted-modules versioning scheme work? I get that there's the kernel version and the kernal ABI number, but there are *two* other components
[11:55] <BOZG> cgentry72: Can't help you with that then unfortunately.  I know there's been some problem with connections on it and that's the only issue I had with it.
[11:56] <axisys> how do I change the interface to autoneg ? right now per mii-tool and messages file my eth0 is 10 HD
[11:56] <cube_> perlmonkey sometimes it better to give 1 or 2 € more and its working as plug n play ^^
[11:56] <slyboots> Hi
[11:56] <axisys> !autoneg
[11:56] <axisys> !autonegotiation
[11:56] <slyboots> Anyone any idea how to enable right-click on a Macbook pro (under Gnome)
[11:56] <cube_> !repomirror
[11:56] <ikonia> axisys: ethtool will help you with autoneg
[11:56] <slyboots> I have two-finger scrolling working, but two-finger click does not work
[11:57] <cgentry72> BOZG, guess i'll use limewire
[11:57] <mohamed_> i installed pptp client but i face a problem to make it working with wlan, is there a method to define it to use wlan instead of wired ethernet ?
[11:57] <bachstudies> I've started learning HTML and am using Kompozer. When I try to add a comment using <!-- --> after saving the line disappears. Is this normal behaviour in Nvu/Kompozer?
[11:57] <david__--> does anyone know the terminal command to turn on the wireless ineternet light?
[11:57] <norty> Question: For some reason since ive installed the upgrades to ubuntu I am getting more system default alerts, or that annoying sound that comes out of your computer when there is an error, is there a way to disable that?
[11:57] <BOZG> cgentry72: I decided to open Frostwire just there and it's just won't open for me now.  You've cursed me!
[11:57] <cgentry72> BOZG, other than limewire, anything just as good u suggest
[11:58] <cgentry72> BOZG, sorry
[11:58] <slyboots> Anyone any idea? Its fustrating not having a right-click menu
[11:58] <axisys> ikonia: thnx
[11:59] <kellnola> slyboots, usually it's <CTRL>+mouse button
[11:59] <BOZG> cgentry72: Don't apologise! I've never actually used anything other than Limewire or Frostwire.  I did find Frostwire was a lot more lightweight which was nice.
[11:59] <slyboots> kellnola, That's what it is under OSX but not Gnome/ubuntu
[11:59] <zaggy-nl|cpts600> Should I run snmpd under root?
[11:59] <cgentry72> BOZG, ok i'm going to install limewire then
[12:01] <pcormack> hello all
[12:01] <Nevstah> tech0007: i done it!!
[12:02] <tech0007> Nevstah: i know u can do it
[12:03] <Nevstah> tech0007: removed all mailscanner files from /var/dpkg/info then did dpkg --remove --force-depends --force-remove-reinstreq mailscanner
[12:03] <_Gav_> can someone enlighten me some about drop_caches
[12:03] <_Gav_> hi all btw
[12:04] <tech0007> great! now don't ever run into that same problem again...it's quite a headache
[12:04] <vovn> hi all
[12:04] <tech0007> :)
[12:04] <Nevstah> tech0007: i'll try not to!! but... i dont think i'm finished yet, ubuntu thinks its removed, but its still running!
[12:05] <Cripp> Hello
[12:05] <tech0007> Nevstah: killall mailscanner or whatever binary it is
[12:06] <dobby> I have a big problem when i want to start vmware i get the error "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gtk::IconThemeError'" any ideas?
[12:06] <Nevstah> tech0007: i just done that, but now it wont install!! :D joy!
[12:06] <axisys> I ran this ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex full and still get 10 half
[12:07] <tech0007> Nevstah: use apt-get, it works better than dpkg IMHO
[12:08] <Nevstah> tech0007: thats what i used :P
[12:08] <tech0007> Nevstah: run apt-get update first before install
[12:08] <LaneLimited> !pointer
[12:08] <LaneLimited> !pointer
[12:09] <LaneLimited> !pointers
[12:09] <FloodBot2> LaneLimited: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Nevstah> ok
[12:09] <LaneLimited> sorry
[12:09] <ghis> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my sound. 1-2 times a day it just goes away... then i reboot and it's back again. Could i manually restart anything to get the same effect? (Hardy)
[12:11] <laeg> how do i display my processor name?
[12:11] <tech0007> laeg: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <laeg> ty
[12:11] <laeg> how did you know that? :)
[12:11] <tech0007> laeg: experience
[12:11] <zcat[1]> Ummmm.. can you upgrade directly from 6.06 to 8.04 ? (LTS to LTS) or do you have to go through all the versions in between?
[12:12] <tech0007> !upgrade
[12:12] <kdtcomputers> hello. Is there an easy way I can setup logins to authenticate over a network (just a home network so I need nothing fancy), and then how would I reroute home directories to the authenticating system as well?
[12:12] <zcat[1]> I understood you can upgrade LTS to the next LTS.. that pages says you can't .. anybody know for sure?
[12:13] <mohamed_> anyone run pptp client with wireless ?
[12:13] <martinjh99> msg ubottu repomirror
[12:14] <egoleo> hello
[12:15] <egoleo> whats the best way to install perl modules on ubuntu server?
[12:15] <kdtcomputers> all I need is username/password authentication, but I want it to be done on a single system, as well as storing home directories for each profile there
[12:15] <Jafet> ikonia, apparently it was a zorked xorg.conf. Thanks.
[12:15] <egoleo> since they are not working for me
[12:15] <NET||abuse> hey guys. i have a sonicwall 2040 in the office here, i ssh to my web server over in germany, and if i leave it unattended for a few minutes, i get cut off, i'm convinced it's something on my router, any suggestsions as to what i should change to solve this annoyance
[12:15] <NET||abuse> ?
[12:15] <ikonia> Jafet: well done
[12:15] <tech0007> kdtcomputers: try samba
[12:15] <ikonia> NET||abuse: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:15] <NET||abuse> ikonia, :( aww, please?
[12:15] <martinjh99> Morning - I have a SATA disc with Windows and an IDE disk with Ubuntu/Data how do I get GRUB onto the SATA disc instead of the IDE?
[12:15] <kompi02> gygyt67
[12:15] <ikonia> NET||abuse: no, sorry
[12:16] <Jafet> martinjh99, grub-install possibly.
[12:16] <kompi02> alux
[12:16] <ikonia> !gurb > martinjh99
[12:16] <Toznoshio> There is a statement here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers/ATI that says - I quote "fglrx has a number of serious bugs that may make normal desktop usage unpleasant" - what bugs do they mean?
[12:16] <ikonia> martinjh99: check out the pm from uboutt
[12:16] <ikonia> martinjh99: uobttu
[12:16] <Jafet> !gurb > jafet
[12:17] <Jafet> !grub > martinjh99
[12:17] <martinjh99> !grub
[12:17] <ikonia> Jafet: thank you
[12:17] <kdtcomputers> !samba
[12:17] <zcat[1]> NET||abuse: seen the problem before, can't recall how it got fixed.. some timeout for idle connections I think.
[12:17] <kdtcomputers> hrm... I don't need anything for windows computers
[12:17] <martinjh99> Jafet> Thanks I'll have a look at that page.
[12:17] <kdtcomputers> just multiple ubuntu systems
[12:18] <zcat[1]> kdtcomputers: samba is also an easy way to share folders between ubuntu desktops..
[12:18] <kdtcomputers> zcat[1] mmk cool ill check it out then
[12:19] <NET||abuse> zcat[1], thanks illl have to google a bit more
[12:19] <jpastore> is there anyway to bring back the ipw3945 driver for my wireless card  because the new driver is just now working
[12:19] <Jafet> martinjh99, I used to do that back in the time I booted off an external disk; the problem with that is that you have to manually edit the configuration every time your system regrades.
[12:19] <jpastore> even with the live cd
[12:20] <zcat[1]> not sure, but when I used to use nfs, if the serving machine went rebooted, the share wouldn't come back and everything accessing it would hang forever rather than just erroring out.
[12:20] <Jafet> martinjh99, or you end up booting the wrong kernel and things happen, like your resolution getting reset to 640x480.
[12:20] <zcat[1]> so now I just use samba.. also if someone comes around here with a windows machine they can plug in and get to my shared folders right away.
[12:21] <ghis> Hi everyone. I have a problem with my sound. 1-2 times a day it just goes away... then i reboot and it's back again. Could i manually restart anything to get the same effect? (Hardy)
[12:22] <zcat[1]> ghis: you could try restarting pulseaudio?
[12:22] <ghis> zcat[1]: Can i do that from /etc/init.d/...?
[12:22] <zcat[1]> ghis: no idea.. :)
[12:23] <zcat[1]> apparently, yes!
[12:23] <QuickGold> im trying to mount a windows share and am using this command but its not working: sudo mount -t smbfs //nas1/Replication/linux/lamp1 /etc/lamp1
[12:23] <egoleo> anyway to install perl modules on ubuntu plse
[12:23] <ghis> zcat[1]: thanks
[12:23] <QuickGold> the error I get is: 16168: Connection to nas1 failed
[12:23] <QuickGold> SMB connection failed
[12:23] <QuickGold> what am I doing wrong
[12:24] <Nyad> help I installed realplayer as this site depicts https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods  from the RealNetworks site, and everything is in my videos is blue when I play them. how do I remove this realplayer?
[12:25] <Jafet> Nyad, eww, a .bin.
[12:26] <zcat[1]> Nyad, eww, realplayer!
[12:26] <Jafet> Nyad, I see two sets on instructions; which did you follow?
[12:26] <jtravnick> Nyad, the page that you gave for installing real player also tells you how to uninstall it
[12:26] <Nyad> what other alternative do I have to realplayer?
[12:26] <tech0007> Nyad: did u try mplayer?
[12:26] <jason_> Help! Network Manager does not see my (active and working) eth0 connection. I can (obviously) connect to the internet, but network manager icon just "spins", firefox starts in offline mode, pidgin won't work, etc.
[12:27] <zcat[1]> Last time I installed realplayer was way back about redhat5 ... it took over all my file associations and it took most of a day to sort the bloody mess out
[12:27] <tech0007> i have both mplayer and realplayer and they both work :)
[12:27] <QuickGold> can someone tell me what is wrong with this command: sudo mount -t smbfs //nas1/Replication/linux/lamp1 /mnt/nas1
[12:28] <tech0007> QuickGold: any error msg?
[12:28] <zcat[1]> I swear I will never install crap from 'real' again on Linux or any other OS, I don't care what it is.
[12:28] <QuickGold> tech0007: yes, this is the error message: sudo mount -t smbfs //nas1/Replication/linux/lamp1 /mnt/nas1
[12:28] <QuickGold> oops
[12:28] <QuickGold> tech0007: yes, this is the error message: 16210: Connection to nas1 failed
[12:28] <QuickGold> SMB connection failed
[12:28] <Nyad> ok will install mplayer then, but I did not use apt-get to install so apt-get remove obviously wont work. and that site doesnt explain how to remove it, unless im super blind
[12:29] <zcat[1]> Nyad: welcome to hell...
[12:29] <Outlander> hi all :)
[12:29] <Nyad> zcat[1]: is it that bad?
[12:29] <doug_> Nyad: there is Vlc player.
[12:30] <zcat[1]> Nyad: I don't know... I was so pissed off I've managed to avoid touching real's ceap for about the last 8 years
[12:30] <zcat[1]> Nyad: but every time anyone ever mentions it, the context always seems to be 'how do I get rid of this shit'
[12:31] <Nyad> haha. will VLC play realmedia?
[12:31] <aaannnnnnnnn> hi
[12:31] <doug_> vlc playes everything
[12:31] <Daremonai> am having problems with my wireless: intel 3945bg, it doesn't seem to be able to find my router.
[12:31] <zcat[1]> yeah, once you install the nonfree codecs, everything will play rm files
[12:32] <freddy_engels> QuickGold: What kind of filesystem are you trying to mount?
[12:32] <assobachant> hello
[12:32] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: Windows (smb)
[12:32] <Nyad> jtravnick: you said that the site explains how to remove it, where did you see it?
[12:32] <doug_> Nyad:  you could also run vlc for xp through wine that has the codecs already installed with it.
[12:33] <G00_VY> hello all :)
[12:33] <freddy_engels> QuickGold: can you try mounting it as a cifs filesystem instead?
[12:33] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: sure, whats the command to do it? my networking is a little rusty
[12:33] <Outlander> I've set the root password on my newly installed Ubuntu 8.04 system. It appears to have altered the sudo system so that I cannot run Synaptic from the menu. What would definitive answer be for this?
[12:34] <doug_> Nyad: there is also gxine player as well
[12:34] <jrib> Outlander: There's no need to set a root password...
[12:34] <zcat[1]> Outlander: It shouldn't have made any difference at all. How did you set it?
[12:34] <zcat[1]> Outlander: and also 'why'?!
[12:34] <Outlander> i used sudo to set it ;) sudo passwd <-- like that
[12:34] <freddy_engels> QuickGold: I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the way you do it is replace "smbfs" with "cifs"
[12:34] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: one sec, let me give it a shot
[12:34] <dns53> the first user becomes the sudo user, if you have a second user it will not be able to sudo
[12:35] <Outlander> dns53: the first user becomes the sudo user after a password change?
[12:35] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: I tried this command: sudo mount -t cifs //nas1/Replication/linux/lamp1 /etc/lamp1
[12:35] <freddy_engels> and?
[12:35] <Myrtti> Outlander: yes
[12:35] <QuickGold> and I get this: mount error: could not find target server. TCP name nas1/Replication/linux/lamp1 not found
[12:35] <QuickGold> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[12:36] <Myrtti> Outlander: no
[12:36] <freddy_engels> hm
[12:36] <tech0007> Nyad: found an uninstall script, u can try this https://player.helixcommunity.org/files/2005/downloads/uninst.sh
[12:36] <Myrtti> Outlander: WHY?!!!
[12:36] <Outlander> ok so root is now the sudo user rather than my user account?
[12:36] <freddy_engels> what is the entry in /etc/fstab?
[12:36] <jrib> Outlander: no
[12:36] <zcat[1]> Outlander: I'm not sure you've done what you think you've done at all..
[12:36] <dns53> no when you first install it is put in the admin group, then after that you need to add the other users to the admin group if you want them to be able to sudo
[12:37] <Outlander> the idea was to change the root password, by running the passwd command "as root"
[12:37] <zcat[1]> and I'm going to lmao if you've done what I think you've done
[12:37] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m44c3bce9
[12:37] <Myrtti> Outlander: there is no root password
[12:37] <zcat[1]> !root
[12:37] <Myrtti> Outlander: why do you want to change it
[12:37] <Outlander> sudo passwd <-- then enter the new "root" password, is exactly what I believed I did.
[12:37] <beebeentu> Hi all, I just tried to install HH and it starts to format my partitions and then my screen gets disabled/turned off. Rebooting/shutting down doesn't bring it back. I have to turn the machine off for a while 30mins before I can turn it on and get the monitor back. Any ideas??? I did md5 check and the iso was good
[12:37] <Myrtti> Outlander: but WHY?
[12:38] <jrib> Outlander: there is no root password by default.  You use sudo to do things that require superuser privileges.  sudo only works for users in the "admin" group (which the first user is part of by default).  sudo uses your user's password
[12:38] <dns53> if you really want a root you can just sudo passwd to change the root password
[12:38] <Pici> !noroot
[12:38] <babolat> beebeentu, by install u mean via alternate ISO or clean install?
[12:38] <zcat[1]> nope.. that should have worked
[12:38] <freddy_engels> QuickGold: 1 sec
[12:38] <beebeentu> babolat: clean install
[12:39] <Outlander> ubottu: well actually I found a forum post where someone has done something probably similar, i was going to post a reply to help that person once i found the answer
[12:39] <babolat> beebeentu, care to share your hardware specifics?
[12:39] <bastid_raZor> i'm looking to enable no password to connect to my 2nd box via ssh .. any links to a howto?
[12:39] <Myrtti> Outlander: ubottu is a bot
[12:39] <doug_> Outlander: ubottu is a bot nothing more it wont talk back to you.
[12:39] <tech0007> lol
[12:39] <Outlander> dns53: i did just sudo passwd, that's what causes synaptic to give the error message
[12:39] <QuickGold> kk
[12:40] <Outlander> so as my user, from the menu running synaptic (or other admin apps) i get the error
[12:40] <beebeentu> babolat: anythiing in particular you want to know? I have to go start it up again to check
[12:40] <dns53> what error message?
[12:41] <Outlander> ok so how do i reverse the problem I have caused by doing "sudo passwd" and setting a password ?
[12:41] <doug_> Outlander: you want to be root for ever? or what you trying to do with root?
[12:41] <Outlander> "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"
[12:41] <babolat> beebeentu, before anything will u be able to boot into the live cd again?
[12:41] <zcat[1]> Outlander: well, that should not have caused the problem... although I still would not recommend setting a root password unless you have a very specific idea of why you need it (and if you know what you're doing, you'll see that even then you actually don't need it!)
[12:41] <Outlander> well just wanted my root password set, i realise this was a futile exercise now of course
[12:41] <Myrtti> Outlander: what were you trying to achieve with trying to change the password?
[12:41] <Outlander> haha
[12:41] <beebeentu> babolat: not following you there?
[12:41] <Myrtti> aha
[12:41] <anthonytiger> hej
[12:41] <beebeentu> babolat: can you say that in another way?
[12:42] <anthonytiger> hej där
[12:42] <Outlander> I feel dirty using sudo, I usually su to root then do stuff.... ;)
[12:42] <Outlander> so to su to root, you'll need to know the password....
[12:42] <babolat> beebeentu, can you BOOT into the LiveCD ??
[12:42] <babolat> o_O
[12:42] <dns53> i sudo su myself
[12:42] <beebeentu> Yes
[12:42] <Outlander> so that's how i got to where i am...i'm after help reversing it
[12:42] <Outlander> :)
[12:42] <zcat[1]> Outlander: alias su="sudo -i" ;)
[12:42] <Pici> Outlander: You can use sudo -i to get into an interactive 'root' session
[12:42] <anthonytiger> hej på är
[12:42] <beebeentu> babolat: Yes I have tried to install it twice
[12:42] <Myrtti> Outlander, dns53: sudo -i
[12:43] <Outlander> cool :)
[12:43] <francky> join #3il
[12:43] <beebeentu> babolat: I'll go try it again
[12:43] <babolat> beebeentu, ok.. shoot me with what your graphics card is.. and we'll look if there are known issues
[12:43] <doug_> Outlander: in other words your root password is what u type when you do sudo .if you want to be root for one whole sudo session then i sugest this sudo -i it gives u root for one session till u close the terminal but u will be back to user when u re open the term.
[12:43] <Outlander> i used to just do "su -"
[12:43] <dns53> well you should use sudo -s
[12:43] <Outlander> doug_: ok cool thanks
[12:43] <Myrtti> Outlander: that's past tense now
[12:43] <Myrtti> :-D
[12:43] <jrib> dns53: why?
[12:43] <zcat[1]> Outlander: setting the root password should not have caused your problem though. You must have done something more than just setting the root password
[12:43] <naught101> should ALL firmware reside in /lib/firmware/'uname -r'?
[12:44] <naught101> or does it depend on the driver?
[12:44] <dns53> well s sets the shell up
[12:44] <Pici> dns53: It depends on whether you want to use your users or root's env variables.
[12:44] <Outlander> zcat[1]: finally, progress...ok well other stuff ive done are: install the infernal citrix client and uninstall it and install it again
[12:44] <jrib> Outlander: it sounds like a permission issue.  Pastebin the output of ls -l ~/.*authority
[12:44] <doug_> Outlander:  if you want to be root for ever well uh *not recommended* there is a way to do it. but ubuntu goes through so much to keep you out of ROOT.
[12:44] <babolat> beebeentu, i highly suspect that yours is a graphics card issue. try booting into the LiveCD via safe graphics mode
[12:44] <jrib> dns53: -i is safer as it resets your environment
[12:45] <Outlander> outlander@Vanguard:~$ ls -l ~/.*authority
[12:45] <Outlander> -rw------- 1 outlander outlander 328 2008-05-07 18:15 /home/outlander/.ICEauthority
[12:45] <Outlander> -rw------- 1 outlander outlander 119 2008-05-07 18:15 /home/outlander/.Xauthority
[12:45] <beebeentu> babolat: on second thoughts... I can no longer bootup because now the splash screen with the install/bootup options comes up for a second and then the screen turns off.
[12:45] <Outlander> doug_: I understand. It's just the way I've always done it, I have no problems doing it the "right" way in future
[12:45] <babolat> beebeentu, it just disappears?
[12:45] <Outlander> sorry, what's Pastbin ?
[12:45] <babolat> !paste
[12:46] <Outlander> too easy ;)
[12:46] <doug_> Outlander: let me see if i can pull up the code for all time root if you really want it.
[12:46] <Nyad> It appears the problem was not realplayer. All of my video files come out as blue
[12:46] <beebeentu> babolat: the laptop monitor goes off as though the machine is turned off
[12:46] <Outlander> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10724/plain/ :)
[12:46] <doug_> Nyad:  what is wrong with your vids?
[12:46] <zcat[1]> doug_ : you do, and you're his sole support person for all future issues he might have...
[12:46] <mib_t0s2c5> Hello, is there anyone help me with my C program?
[12:46] <tech0007> Nyad: video card?
[12:46] <Outlander> doug_: I don't really need it, sudo should do anything I need...I just "wanted" it but realise now that I don't need it.
[12:46] <babolat> beebeentu, do u happen to know what your graphics card is, off hand?
[12:47] <mib_t0s2c5> command: gcc DNS.c  result: undefined reference to `__res_query'
[12:47] <beebeentu> ati
[12:47] <Nyad> nvidia
[12:47] <doug_> zcat[1]:  uh no i wont as i stated i wont have nothing to do with it. only guide him to it.
[12:47] <Nyad> 8800GT
[12:47] <beebeentu> babolat: ati x1600
[12:47] <mib_t0s2c5> too many undefineds
[12:47] <babolat> beebeentu, a'right thanks. one moment
[12:47] <doug_> Nyad:  you have a nvidia card?
[12:48] <david__--> can someone please help with wireless internet connect on hardy,ive managed to fix everything else,this is the only thing left thats being stubborn
[12:48] <Nyad> yes. nvidia 8800GT. everything was fine yesterday
[12:48] <lesshaste> how do I download the package for linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[12:48] <zcat[1]> doug: my general attitude is to steer people to the 'safe' way of doing things... if they want to do silly things they can figure it out for themselves (and with luck, they'll learn enough along the way to know why it's actually silly and they shouldn't do it..)
[12:48] <doug_> Nyad:  i had a prob simular to urs once let me dig up the old post i had and Nyad there is a way to install ur nvidia drivers if u dont have them installed.
[12:48] <lesshaste> I was hoping sudo apt-get -d install linux-headers-`uname -r` would do it
[12:48] <Outlander> zcat[1]: so you mentioned that doing sudo passwd should not cause this issue: "﻿Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file" ?
[12:49] <babolat> beebeentu, u're sure you don't have a bad burn right?
[12:49] <lesshaste> but it doesn't download it as it is already installed
[12:49] <Outlander> how do I understand what this error means and resolve it?
[12:49] <tech0007> Nyad: try changing the video driver in preferences
[12:49] <anthonytiger> hej hu funkar den här skiten
[12:49] <beebeentu> babolat: Hmmm. Can I check that with md5 too? Or is there another tool to check it with
[12:49] <tech0007> !se | anthonytiger
[12:49] <Nyad> doug_: I have them installed. before I installed Realplayer all was well. now its all blue
[12:49] <zcat[1]> Outlander: yes. Just setting a root password should not cause that. I don't know what does.
[12:50] <babolat> beebeentu, md5 is for verifying the ISO's integrity.. verify DATA was properly burned onto the disk via ur burning app
[12:50] <tech0007> Nyad: also try disabling compiz before you play ur videos
[12:50] <doug_> ny take a look at this and see if its kinda the same thing you have. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511746
[12:50] <doug_> Nyad:  ^^
[12:50] <Nyad> no compiz on my pc
[12:50] <Outlander> ok cool. the only other things i was doing was setting permissions on /usr/lib/ICAClient/keystore/cacerts
[12:51] <Outlander> so that it could be read by my regular user
[12:51] <Outlander> and i ran the citrix uninstall script provided with the citrix client which did who knows what
[12:51] <umangme> Hi, I had a question. After upgrading to 8.04 Thunderbird would quit by itself when I clicked Attach while composing a mail. I couldn't always reproduce this. I tried to upgrade nautilus from Synaptic, and now I can't reproduce it. Does this mean that I'm not likely to have the same error again?
[12:51] <babolat> beebeentu, will u be able to do that?
[12:51] <Outlander> i can still sudo from the command line as my user,etc
[12:52] <beebeentu> babolat: I don't know how to check it now but I'll try reburning it more slowly and I'll try to use verification too. Cheers
[12:52] <Outlander> the difference being, from the command line it prompts me for my password
[12:52] <tech0007> Nyad: try Xv, gl2 or ximage as video driver in preferences
[12:52] <beebeentu> babolat: I'm just worried that the monitor has packed it in. I doubt it's HH
[12:52] <umangme> Also, What does the number after "ubuntu" in the version number in Synpatic mean? e.g. nautilus is 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5. What's the 5?
[12:52] <zcat[1]> Outlander: so the problem is gksu picking up your Xauthority ... I suspect just logging out and back in might be enough to fix it
[12:52] <Nyad> in Realplayer preferences?
[12:53] <babolat> beebeentu, do we happen to be talking about one of those older-than-should-be laptops?
[12:53] <tech0007> Nyad: nope in mplayer
[12:53] <Outlander> zcat: I read that solution somewhere actually...
[12:53] <tech0007> Nyad: i think u can only uncheck Xv in realplayer
[12:53] <doug_> Nyad:  did you look at the link i gave u?
[12:53] <umangme> ?
[12:53] <doug_> tech0007:  the link i gave him explains it more or less.
[12:53] <Nyad> yes
[12:53] <burasa> I changed my userid and groupid then changed them back to 1000... the most weird thing is that when I join a group then run id $USER, I am not part of the group. When I check the group file, I am listen as a member.
[12:54] <Outlander> zcat[1]: so setting root's password would cause this issue then? as it could have tinkered with sudo related config files?
[12:54] <freddy_engels> QuickGold: Sorry for the wait. Can you try editing your /etc/fstab file so that /dev/hda1 is of the type "smbfs" instead of "ntfs"?
[12:54] <zcat[1]> Outlander: I'm lazy.. I never really understood how Xauthority works. But I think it generates tokens when you first log in.. logging out and back in should regerate them
[12:54] <Outlander> got it
[12:54] <freddy_engels> and then re-try the command you were using earlier
[12:55] <QuickGold> freddy_engels: I solved it. I used an ip address instead of the name and it worked
[12:55] <QuickGold> thanks for the help
[12:55] <Outlander> any way to do that from the command line or without logging back out and in? should i go read about Xauthority?
[12:55] <zcat[1]> Outlander: Not sure how they'd have got messed up. I'm sure just setting a root password wouldn't do it.
[12:55] <doug_> QuickGold: you trying to mount your ntfs partition with read/write?
[12:55] <Nyad> ok now realplayer no longer has smurfs walking around, but now kaffeine still has them
[12:55] <QuickGold> doug_: yes
[12:55] <doug_> QuickGold: there is a simple easy way let me get the link
[12:56] <tech0007> Nyad: sorry i dont use kaffeine, but look in preferences
[12:56] <QuickGold> doug_: cool, thanks
[12:56] <zcat[1]> Outlander: well, that might help. I never bothered figuring it out too much. I know how to turn all the xauth off so I can launch windows from anywhere without having to use ssh -X :)
[12:56] <doug_> QuickGold:  its for feisty but works in all i have it in hardy and works great. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[12:56] <Outlander> hehe :) thanks for your help everyone :)
[12:57] <QuickGold> doug_: thanks but Im doing this in a CLI not a GUI
[12:57] <Outlander> i'll try a few things and will log off and on again and see how that goes
[12:57] <Outlander> any way to set my root password to nothing again? to reverse the change i made?
[12:57] <beebeentu> babolat: just a quick question though... if the machine has had edgy, feisty and gutsy without problems is it likely to be hardy heron?
[12:57] <zcat[1]> QuickGold: mount /dev/sdwhatever /mountpoint -t ntfs-3g
[12:57] <doug_> QuickGold:  oh, ok that i do not know how to do sorry.
[12:58] <QuickGold> zcat[1]: Thank you
[12:58] <zcat[1]> QuickGold: and perhaps some options like -o umask=0
[12:58] <zcat[1]> (that should give read/write access to all users)
[12:59] <QuickGold> zcat[1]: Thank you
[12:59] <umangme> I'll repeat my question as it seems to have got buried pretty fast.
[12:59] <babolat> beebeentu, all those previous versions with no hitch, probably hardy installation is at fault, or that the hardy ISO simple didnt burn right
[12:59] <umangme>  Hi, I had a question. After upgrading to 8.04 Thunderbird would quit by itself when I clicked Attach while composing a mail. I couldn't always reproduce this. I tried to upgrade nautilus from Synaptic, and now I can't reproduce it. Does this mean that I'm not likely to have the same error again?
[13:00] <beebeentu> babolat: Thanks... I'm trying a better burn now
[13:00] <tech0007> umangme: run thunderbird from terminal and capture the output when it shuts down
[13:00] <zcat[1]> tech0007: well if the bug has been fixed, he can't now :)
[13:00] <umangme> tech0007: I can't seem to get the error now.
[13:00] <fabian__> hi
[13:00] <umangme> Any thing I should try to reproduce it?
[13:01] <mohamed_> jatt: i hope you r here i still face troubles wih pptp client , i use two method to configure it but without success the manual method rise this error and i don't know where i configure to use wlan ,... http://phpfi.com/315186
[13:01] <zcat[1]> umangme: sounds like it was segfaulting or something.. and perhaps you picked up an update that fixed it, hard to tell really. If it happens again, run tb from a shell and it should give you an idea what's going wrong
[13:02] <umangme> Thanks.
[13:02] <zcat[1]> actually isn't the crashdump thing supposed to pick these things up?
[13:02] <umangme> (Thanks to both, zcat[1] and tech0007)
[13:02] <evaimitico> hi! is it possible to install ubuntu server 8.04 directly on a fakeraid 1 (i have intel ICH7R) ? if yes, how?
[13:03]  * ApOgEE- balik umah.. bye
[13:03] <umangme> Also, What does the number after "ubuntu" in the version number in Synpatic mean? e.g. nautilus is 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5. What's the 5?
[13:03] <zcat[1]> evaimitico: turn off anything raid-related in your conteoller, and do a software raid install from the alternative or server CD
[13:04] <umangme> What does the number after "ubuntu" in the version number in Synpatic mean? e.g. nautilus is 1:2.22.2-0ubuntu5. What's the 5?
[13:04] <zcat[1]> dmraid or 'fake raid' is just software raid with a few of the disadvantages of hardware raid, none of the advantages, and a few extra problems unique to propriatory non-free drivers
[13:05] <anthonytiger> hi
[13:05] <evaimitico> zcat[1], so i must delete existent array to complete the installation? i have tried to install a linux sw raid, but installation stopped. I suppose it doesn't like the existent array...
[13:05] <KRF> umangme, i think it counts the revisions made by packagers
[13:05] <evaimitico> thanks zcat[1]
[13:06] <umangme> KRF: Thanks!
[13:06] <umangme> :)
[13:06] <anthonytiger> llsl
[13:06] <zcat[1]> evaimitico: basically, turn off averything in the controller remotely to do with raid so that it treast your drives as just two independent drives.. then let the installer set up software raid. It'll work out much better
[13:07] <evaimitico> zcat[1],  thanks i'll try!
[13:07] <Dark-Fx> software raid > fakeraid
[13:07] <Traveler18> Hi, anyone who can help me install a memtest program? Got OS: Xubuntu
[13:08] <anthonytiger> hej
[13:08] <slyboots> Anyone know much about getting a Apple remote working in Hardy Heron?
[13:08] <zcat[1]> Yeah.. fake raid is basically software raid with the device-dependence of hardware raid and the added 'bonus' of non-free drivers
[13:08] <Traveler18> or just a help me to find out what memory i got in my computer
[13:08] <slyboots> I had it working, but somehow I've broken in
[13:08] <zcat[1]> basically it sucks bigtime
[13:08] <slyboots> I can see the apple reciever in /dev/ and if I run cat it seems to be acceping input from the remote
[13:09] <slyboots> But I cant get it to do anything in lirc or X
[13:09] <zcat[1]> Outlander: sot sudo?
[13:09] <zcat[1]> *got sudo?
[13:09] <Outlander> ok another clue to why I was getting that problem, somehow my user was unable to write to /tmp
[13:09] <DaveG|> hey, for some reason, every now and again, pidgin and firefox 3 seem to become unintteruptible and just randomly freeze. it happens both on my desktop (7.10) and my laptop (8.04). common things running on them are: scim, system monitor applet, music applet, compiz, firefox 3, pidgin with alternative msn protocol
[13:10] <zcat[1]> Outlander: ahhh.. that would be a problem :)
[13:10] <Outlander> lol
[13:10] <Outlander>  /tmp was set to 744 for some reason
[13:10] <Outlander> i made it 777 which got me back into X but probably isn't the best setting?
[13:10] <Outlander> what's the perms of /tmp supposed to be?
[13:10] <doug_> DaveG|: mine do same thing sometimes. still trying to figure out how to fix it.
[13:11] <Traveler18> Does anyone got a fast way to know what ram meomry i got in my comp?
[13:11] <zcat[1]> drwxrwxrwt  17 root root  832 2008-05-07 22:39 tmp  -- 777
[13:11] <Outlander> ok cool
[13:11] <doug_> DaveG|:  if u get tired of pidgin locking up go to www.meebo.com
[13:11] <DaveG|> doug_, strange... it's really ... peeing me off
[13:11] <Outlander> mine's 777 and everything works
[13:11] <DaveG|> doug_, not sure what is the problem exactly so
[13:11] <DaveG|> just liek you
[13:11] <DaveG|> so =/
[13:12] <slyboots> I swear I think Im going to snap x.x
[13:12] <zcat[1]> Outlander: that would probably explain the gksu problem too.. likely it tries to make tmp files
[13:12] <DaveG|> doug_, do you have the same kinda things running too?
[13:12]  * smmagic gives slyboots some glue
[13:12] <slyboots> I dont get why this has broken, it was fucking working
[13:12] <Outlander> yeah
[13:12] <doug_> DaveG|: nope just pidgin by it self. and ff by it self
[13:12] <Pici> slyboots: Watch the language please.
[13:12] <nainef> meebo?
[13:12] <slyboots> But god forbid something work for more than 5 seconds
[13:12] <Outlander> i'm about to post a reply to the poor soul on the forums who had the same issue...
[13:12] <nainef> OMG
[13:12] <DaveG|> doug_, mm strange :(
[13:13] <nainef> why would pidgeon have issues?
[13:14] <DaveG|> nainef, because the developers never listen to people?
[13:14] <doug_> DaveG|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4899129
[13:14] <slyboots> I dont understand why the remote has suddenly stopped working, the IR reciever seems to be okay, but its just not doing anything with that infomation
[13:14] <nainef> ok cause I was considering using it.... but now I'll keep that in mind
[13:14] <slyboots> Anyone any idea what I could check to see where the problem might be?
[13:14] <DaveG|> nainef, it's good, but they never listend to me when i bitched about it not having good msn support
[13:15] <Soilwork> are there any commands to show what types of ram i got?
[13:15] <DaveG|> so that's why i use the alternative msn plugin
[13:15] <lesshaste> how do you start wireless from the command line?
[13:15] <nainef> don't they reverse engineer msn protocol to make the plugin?
[13:16] <coolerguy> I've got a bit of a problem... A dell Latitude x300 (with a Broadcom BCM4309 Wifi card) running Hardy seems to have throttled its own download speed... Downloads from a close ubuntu mirror run at less than 700kB/s on the Dell, while they run at 1.8Mbit/s on the Mac right next to the Dell... iwconfig reports 54M transfer speed...
[13:16] <John117> I'm getting the message "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'main'" I am using an xp/ubuntu dual boot. Any suggestions?
[13:16] <DaveG|> nainef, yeah, only way to do it
[13:16] <zcat[1]> coolerguy: be glad it works at all. Mine still doesn't ...
[13:16] <nainef> ok, is there a better group that does that, like a libmsn orsomething?
[13:17]  * nainef is curious....
[13:17] <DaveG|> doug_, for some reason i think it's something to do with the update manager
[13:17] <DaveG|> nainef, well that alternative msn plugin for pidgin is good
[13:17] <slyboots> Or am Im going to have to just format and install from bloody scratch
[13:17] <unimatrix9> can we do seamless in an hardy host?
[13:17] <DaveG|> it's coming along more than the actual plugin from pidgin
[13:17] <unimatrix9> with virtual box that is
[13:17] <adam7> is it possible to mount (a writable) tmpfs on top of a readonly filesystem, so that all the writes go on the tmpfs, but the readonly filesystem can still be used?
[13:18] <zcat[1]> adam7: should be..
[13:18] <alastair_> The screen is still turning off, and it's still not doing it properly
[13:18] <ce> #surabaya
[13:18] <adam7> zcat[1]: do you know how, or can you direct me to someplace that does?
[13:18] <adam7> I tried googling, but without any luck.
[13:18] <John117> I'm getting the message "You are not privileged to mount the volume 'main'" I am using an xp/ubuntu dual boot. Any suggestions?
[13:19] <doug_> John117: try sudo
[13:19] <ce> #ubuntu
[13:19] <slyboots> Anyone know what gnome/X uses to read input from a IR Remote?
[13:19] <zcat[1]> adam7: mount first filesystem ro, mount second filesystem rw on /tmp mountpoint of ro filesystem
[13:19] <tech0007>  slyboots: lirc?
[13:20] <slyboots> Well Im trying lirc and its not bloody working
[13:20] <slyboots> I cant even tell if lirc is accepting input from the bloody device
[13:20] <DaveG|> doug_, do you have automatix?
[13:20] <doug_> DaveG|:  uh no way its too way too unstable
[13:20] <DaveG|> mm
[13:21] <smmagic> Automatix got discontinued for hardy no?
[13:21] <DaveG|> can't be that then
[13:21] <slyboots> So.. no-one has any idea?
[13:21] <doug_> !automatix | DaveG|
[13:21] <adam7> zcat[1]: I think my question might not be clear -- I want to mount the ro one on /, and tmpfs on /, and have the writes and changes to files go to the tmpfs, while leaving the ro fs readable
[13:21] <DaveG|> doug_, not developed anymore? strange
[13:22] <zcat[1]> adam7: OH! Yes. It can be done. I can't recall how...
[13:22] <adam7> zcat[1]: ok, I'll keep looking then :)
[13:22] <doug_> DaveG|: when i ran feisty  a yr or two ago. i installed it it removed my os and wiped the whole hd of everything.
[13:22] <DaveG|> doug_, bloody hell :|
[13:22]  * slyboots rubs his eyes and curses under his breath
[13:22] <John117> doug_: I read a command yesterday in that website you gave me that said I could force a mount of Main but that it may be risky.  Is it safe?
[13:22] <zcat[1]> doug_: automatix is bad, but surely it was never that bad!!
[13:23] <DaveG|> zcat[1], i always thought automatix was good :(
[13:23] <doug_> zcat[1]:  lol well it did i ran it across a friend on aim about it he could not figure it out either
[13:23] <zcat[1]> DaveG|: no, it's evil. It does bad things.
[13:24] <doug_> John117: not rly safe but its ur call man ur comp ur data. me i would try it at least once.
[13:24] <DaveG|> zcat[1], interesting. only thing i've noticed is that it breaks the disto upgrades
[13:24] <zcat[1]> DaveG|: you might not even know.. but sometime later you'll try to upgrade and it just won't work, or it will break, because automatix has done some silly thing that package management doesn't expect
[13:24] <gordonjcp> !en | doug_
[13:24] <adam7> zcat[1]: unionfs
[13:25] <zcat[1]> adam7: Yeah, that would be it :) I remember isomer talking about it way back.
[13:25] <slyboots> I swearat this stage I might just format and start again from scratch
[13:25] <DaveG|> zcat[1], i'll remember not to install it ever again :P
[13:25] <likuidkewl> Does anyone in here know how or more specifically what interface UFW binds to by default
[13:25] <doug_> gordonjcp: WTF i am speaking english its all i speak.
[13:25] <adam7> now I have the keyword, google is my friend :)
[13:25] <bazhang> doug_, please relax
[13:25] <bazzieb> whats the best cd burning software for ubuntu?
[13:25] <zcat[1]> DaveG|: ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage does 90% of it now anyhow..
[13:25] <gordonjcp> doug_: doesn't look much like English
[13:26] <Outlander> zcat[1]: does this solution look ok? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4901962#post4901962
[13:26] <bazhang> bazzieb, brasero and gnomebaker are good for gnome; k3b for kde
[13:26] <DaveG|> gordonjcp, looks english to me ¬_¬'
[13:26] <bazzieb> sweet thanks dude
[13:26] <naught101> anyone having trouble with broadcom wireless in the last week or so?
[13:26] <John117> doug_  I'm a tool and i didn't save the link you sent me yesterday.   (I did reboot and do a checkdisk btw and it didni't fix it.)
[13:26] <naught101> I mean, more than usual?
[13:27] <gordonjcp> DaveG|: what's all the "ur" and "rly" stuff?
[13:27] <doug_> John117:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[13:27] <bazhang> slyboots, what is the issue?
[13:27] <John117> doug_ thanks man..
[13:27] <DaveG|> gordonjcp, i didn't notice any of that
[13:27] <DaveG|> gordonjcp, and this IS IRC after all
[13:28] <doug_> John117: yw. i have it bookmarked and sent to my email
[13:28] <slyboots> bazhang, installed ubuntu and trying to get my Apple remote to work, followed the guide and edited the source-file for the modules and managed to get it to work
[13:28] <slyboots> After the first reboot its just totaly stopped working
[13:28] <gordonjcp> DaveG|: yes, it's IRC, a primarily textual environment
[13:28] <Pici> !lol | DaveG| (see also !u)
[13:28] <slyboots> the device sems to be okay (if I run cat /dev..) I can see input from the remote but thats about all I can get
[13:28] <gordonjcp> DaveG|: if people just sit and bang random letters on their keyboards, it doesn't make a lot of sense
[13:29] <atoz> hi all...
[13:29]  * naught101 stands in solidarity with gordonjcp on the english-fascism thing
[13:29] <bazhang> slyboots, ah something complicated (and new ) like that; no wonder the frustration-->any thing on ubuntuforums about it?
[13:29] <DaveG|> gordonjcp, *sigh*
[13:29] <bazhang> !ot | naught101
[13:29] <gordonjcp> DaveG|: not everyone in here has English as a first language
[13:29] <slyboots> bazhang, Nope, Just guides on how to get it working first time around
[13:29] <naught101> bazhang: what was that for?
[13:29] <atoz> this link to download joomla for ubuntu...
[13:29] <atoz> http://ubuntu.nad.go.id/download/applikasi/cms/joomla/joomla_1.5.3_all.deb
[13:29] <DaveG|> で…日本語でタイプできます！
[13:29] <xintron> How do I check which wificard I got?
[13:29] <slyboots> Been just over 3 hours and Im just about fedup with it
[13:29] <naught101> xintron: lspci
[13:30] <bazhang> naught101, no need to use that terminology thanks
[13:30] <naught101> haha. oh the irony. sorry for being off-topic bazhang
[13:30] <DaveG|> gordonjcp, ok, but they'll end up learning omg and lol eventually
[13:30] <gordonjcp> atoz: you're probably better just installing Joomla from source
[13:31] <bazhang> slyboots, I understand your frustration; took me two weeks to get wireless going on a pcmcia card
[13:31] <bazhang> naught101, an over-reaction on my part--that word just jumped out at me
[13:31] <slyboots> IIm thinking of just getting rid of it, wireless does not work either despite following the guide, and if I so much as look at my trackpad it goes mental
[13:31] <naught101> :)
[13:31] <doug_> DaveG|:  if u do not mind meeting me in room #DaveG| for a second ? just click on the room name.
[13:34] <binarical-app> hi ... people... i have been searching for hours to find someone who can help me install wine on osx..... can someone point me to such an OSX chat room please?
[13:34] <babolat> beebeentu?
[13:34] <co_keren> \nick uki__
[13:35] <Outlander> binarical-app: #winehq maybe ?
[13:35] <binarical-app> thnks
[13:35] <Outlander> no probs
[13:35] <Akumu> I've been trying to get my ATI Radeon x1600 pro to work several times now.. My problem always end up with the screen turning black when Im about to reach the login screen in X. However, using vesa instead of fglrx works.. but i dont have the right resolutions and so on... anyone able to help me with this problem, please send me a message ;)
[13:35] <david__--> broadcam wireless is what i have,worked halfway decent on gutsy until i switched to hardy earlier now it doesnt work at all
[13:35] <suxxor> i`ve got problem with display driver
[13:36] <suxxor> i don`t have one proper
[13:36] <suxxor> for my video card
[13:36] <suxxor> it shows me the next error
[13:36] <suxxor> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[13:36] <suxxor> trying to change the resolustion
[13:36] <suxxor> this happens when i upgrade on 8.04
[13:36] <Randocal> Is there a way to do a "text mode" install for Hardy?
[13:37] <suxxor> some body to help me
[13:37] <tech0007> Randocal: use the alternate CD
[13:37] <jrib> !alternate | randocal
[13:37] <Randocal> Thank you everybody, I will download that and give it a try.
[13:37] <Akumu> i've had my resolutions work correct on a previous install.. but then my desktop turned all white and i couldnt see anything.. changing to vesa then again resulted in a different resolution
[13:38] <Akumu> 1440x900 is what im trying to reach..
[13:38] <naught101> suxxor: what's the problem?
[13:38] <naught101> resolution issue?
[13:38] <suxxor> yes
[13:38] <naught101> describe...
[13:38] <suxxor> i `ve got  problem
[13:38] <suxxor> i can`t chage the resolution
[13:38] <suxxor> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[13:38] <naught101> what's the card?
[13:38] <suxxor> this show me
[13:39] <suxxor> radeon x1300
[13:39] <craigbass1976> I can't remember where to put new fonts.  I though /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but it's not showing up in GIMP
[13:39] <erUSUL> suxxor: "gksudo displayconfig-gtk"
[13:39] <naught101> I have no idea about ATI graphics, sorry
[13:39] <erUSUL> !fonts | craigbass1976
[13:39] <LayZ> Hey, could someone help me with a xubuntu problem?
[13:39] <smmagic> does the rar utility in ubuntu support split archives?
[13:40] <bazhang> smmagic, the non-free one should
[13:40] <bazhang> smmagic, come to think of it they all should
[13:40] <smmagic> so if I just sudo apt-get install rar is the free one?
[13:40] <erUSUL> smmagic: yes
[13:40] <smmagic> Because, I'm tired of installing winrar :P
[13:40] <erUSUL> !info unrar | smmagic
[13:41] <jrib> smmagic: it's free cost-wise
[13:41] <marco__> hi, does anyone have an acer aspire 9814 or 9810?(981*) SERIES?
[13:41] <jrib> !anyone | marco__
[13:41] <smmagic> hope it works
[13:41] <suxxor> erUSL i`ve change the resolution throught the xorg.conf with deleting the higher resolution but windows don`t move smoothly every thing is slow i thing is missing display drivers ...
[13:41] <bazhang> marco__, please specify the issue you are having
[13:42] <david__--> can anyone help with wireless internet on hardy?
[13:42] <bazhang> david__--, which chipset
[13:42] <jdwatson> I'm sure some can try
[13:43] <marco__> bazhang, i have an aspire 9814, with a realtek high definition audio, (alc883) , Sound works(changing /etc/modules/ & alsa-base) but the audio volume/quality is not comparable with windows...
[13:43] <smmagic> Well, it seems to be taking a while to unpack. thats gotta be good?
[13:43] <david__--> bazhang:broadcam43xx
[13:43] <david__--> bcm43xx
[13:43] <ph8> hi all
[13:43] <bazhang> marco__, have you tried adjusting the sound prefs to different architectures? alsa, autodetct, etc
[13:43] <suxxor> erUSuL i`ve change the resolution throught the xorg.conf with deleting lines with the higher resolution but windows don`t move smoothly everything is moving slowy i thing is missing display drivers ...
[13:43] <grindhold> does anyone but have problems with HAL since the update the day before yesterday, too?
[13:44] <erUSUL> !ati | suxxor
[13:44] <q4a> hi all
[13:44] <bazhang> david__--, what about fwcutter--that does not do it? what errors are you getting
[13:44] <marco__> bazhang,  yep. is it necessary to reboot after a change?
[13:44] <bazhang> marco__, not to my knowledge no
[13:44] <skurakai> hi. i have problem with "games". Windows with game blink with black horizontal line. I have new ATI driver. Problem solved.
[13:44] <bazhang> marco__, might want to restart the app though
[13:45] <marco__> bazhang, yes..trying
[13:45] <skurakai> *non solved
[13:45] <bazhang> skurakai, with compiz? if so try shutting it off
[13:45] <gnomefreak> skurakai: ah thatnk you for that correction
[13:45] <david__--> bazhang:honestly,ive tried ndiswrapper,also the firmware,and a few other guides ive read...now I am stuck and dont know whats what
[13:45] <gnomefreak> bazhang: mostlikely it is compiz bug
[13:45] <marco__> bazhang,  no real difference
[13:46] <ilshenar> -_-
[13:46] <bazhang> david__--, there would the conflict right there then-->nidis and fwcutter together
[13:46] <skurakai> bazhang: i don't know. On kubuntu have no problems.
[13:46] <gnomefreak> skurakai: compiz has had that issue for a while
[13:46] <david__--> bazhang:i figured as much,how would i fix it?
[13:46] <bazhang> gnomefreak, likely so
[13:46] <q4a> hi all, can i block package in adept like in synaptic?
[13:46] <corporal_clegg> I've deleted a 25GB directory, and now it's in the Trash. I dragged the directory from the Trash to the original place, and it's copying 25GB! why it not just moving the deleted file?
[13:47] <gnomefreak> skurakai: in gnome go to System>preferrednces> apperance> visual effects and see what it is set on
[13:47] <q4a> *package version
[13:47] <bazhang> david__--, remove one or the other and try again-->preferably both and start from scratch with only the fwcutter
[13:47] <ph8> my atheros wifi card is recognised in lspci but i can't get a network eth* device for it - any idea what i should do?
[13:47] <jescis> is Gtk+ only usable with X, or can the apps that requires Grk+ run on command line?
[13:47] <david__--> bazhang:how exactly do i remove fully please?
[13:47] <bazhang> ph8 please pastebin the out put of lspci
[13:48] <ph8> k, sec
[13:48] <bazhang> david__--, not sure as what all you have added in there-->have you kept track?
[13:48] <ph8> only one line: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[13:49] <david__--> bazhang:not exactly...just know that I followed a few guides and that is all...am semi new to linux so am not sure of the procedures
[13:49] <skurakai> gnomefreak: normal efect
[13:49] <moepman> have a problem here... i have a nvidia gpu, the restricted drivers installed, but everytime the screensaver starts, the screen is completely locked
[13:49] <bazhang> ph8 you tried the madwifi with that? it say s in ubuntu 5006, but in fact may be the 5007-->this is a dual boot?
[13:49] <gnomefreak> skurakai: turn it to none and see if it still happens
[13:49] <ph8> ofc there are more if you want them
[13:49] <david__--> bazhang:Is there something I can pastebin to you?
[13:49] <gnomefreak> skurakai: normal and extra == compiz
[13:49] <MartinCz> Hi. I want to know EVERYTHING about init, rc scripts, inittab and so on... Where should I start? Can you advise me some documentation? Thanks.
[13:50] <bazhang> ubottu ?
[13:50] <ph8> bazhang: no idea what that is
[13:50] <smmagic> hehe, thanks bazhang, it worked :P
[13:50] <babolat> !init | MartinCz
[13:50] <ph8> i am on a dual boot though
[13:51] <bazhang> ph8 what does ifconfig show
[13:51] <skurakai> gnomefreak: thank you much.
[13:51] <bazhang> smmagic, ;]
[13:51] <gnomefreak> skurakai: anytime :)
[13:51] <skurakai> it is that problem
[13:51] <ushimitsudoki> If you do not specify the FontPaths in your xorg.conf "Files" section, then where is the FontPath coming from? (trying to rid myself of the cyrillic font warning)
[13:51] <MartinCz> !init
[13:51] <skurakai> gnomefreak: it is problem of ATI drivers?
[13:51] <gnomefreak> skurakai: thought so please file a bug but it has been known for a while dont know if they fixed it and its back or if it same issue
[13:51] <MartinCz> :) cool :)
[13:51] <Francis> hello everyone
[13:51] <gnomefreak> skurakai: i beilve so
[13:52] <skurakai> hm
[13:52] <bazhang> ph8 does ifconfig show three entries or two
[13:52] <skurakai> thanx
[13:52] <skurakai> bye
[13:52]  * gnomefreak cant spell to save life today
[13:52] <gnomefreak> bye
[13:52] <moepman> have a problem here... i have a nvidia gpu, the restricted drivers installed, but everytime the screensaver starts, the screen is completely locked
[13:53] <babolat> moepman, do u happen to have compiz on?
[13:53] <mistiipu_> i made a pc share my internet connection by cross cable direct nic to nic connection. it worked. i changed the client pc and its lan card but with same cable and same settings. it was not working. i have checked cable and lan card. both are fine. i think there is some settings in the server (linux) that has been saved for that old pc. when i plug the new pc it says a network cable has ben unplugd?
[13:53] <savvas> !hardy
[13:53] <ph8> three but i have two onboard wired ports as well
[13:53] <moepman> babolat, let me see
[13:53] <savvas> !feisty
[13:54] <moepman> babolat, yes
[13:54] <bazhang> savvas, you can /msg ubottu if you wish thanks
[13:54] <bazhang> ph8 you still around?
[13:54] <savvas> ty bazhang ;)
[13:54] <savvas> cheers
[13:54] <babolat> moepman, u can either disable compiz or turn off screensaver.. which do u wish to do?
[13:54] <bazhang> ;]
[13:54] <val1> òðÿì
[13:54] <ph8> bazhang: three but i have two onboard wired ports as well
[13:55] <MartinCz> Well. I still need more info about the INIT and RC scripts...
[13:55] <bazhang> ph8 so no ath0?
[13:55] <joako> hi, i have mess my xorg, and now i want it back as a default from my install . what can i do? thanx for answer
[13:55] <MartinCz> I want to know exactly what are the config file at /etc/init.d, /etc/event.d and /etc/rc#.d good for.
[13:55] <lainy> Hello, I have a friend who is using GAIM in Feisty. Can he install Pidgin via a Hardy pidgin .deb?
[13:56] <GhostFish> Anyone else having issues with running the synaptic packadge manager ? sometimes it runs sometimes nothing ... is their a way to reinstall it via apt-get ?
[13:56] <bazhang> GhostFish, sure you can remove and reinstall it--likely not the source of the prolbem though
[13:56] <babolat> joako, have u made a backup of it?
[13:56] <moepman> babolat, is there no way to have compiz and a screensaver?
[13:56] <qense> I've bought an Asus EN9600GT but now my monitor doesn't get a signal from it. My motherboard is an Asus M2NPV-VM Does anyone knows what I should do to solve this?
[13:57] <joako> nop.
[13:57] <babolat> moepman, evidently not yet.. compiz blames it on X..
[13:57] <GhostFish> bazhang: any way to track it down ????
[13:57] <ph8> bazhang: sorry i've just got a dvorak keyboard so my typing speed is gash - there is no ath0
[13:57] <fnord__> Oi! should fiesty be crawling on a computer that has 256 ram and 1.5g? ive never seen *buntu be the slow before :(
[13:57] <joako> there's any way to fix
[13:57] <MOras> hi all
[13:57] <bazhang> GhostFish, we need lots more info :)
[13:58] <GhostFish> bazhang: Ubuntu 8.04 and I run it looks like its going to start then nothing...
[13:58] <John117> Can someone throw up a good link to a tutorial on setting up file sharing with ubuntu on a network?
[13:59] <erUSUL> !samba | John117
[13:59] <bazhang> ph8 I believe yo need to install the linux-restricted-modules appropriate to you r kernel to get madwifi drivers for that card
[13:59] <sortudo_78> ikonia: Hello, again, wouls you like to make an other try with me, to make internet connection ???
[13:59] <oddalot> wasn't samba the lion in the lion king?
[13:59] <fnord__> Oi! should fiesty be crawling on a computer that has 256 ram and 1.5g? ive never seen *buntu be this slow before :(
[13:59] <ph8> bazhang: thx will try
[14:00]  * Dr_willis pours fake butter on oddalot 
[14:00] <fnord__> oddalot, that simba
[14:00] <babolat> oddalot, simba?
[14:00] <oddalot> oh
[14:00] <oddalot> one letter off
[14:00] <GhostFish> bazhang: I started my plain update manager not the synaptic one and it loads but sits their greyed out like its waiting to load
[14:00] <naught102> lainy: I did and it worked
[14:00] <naught102> no guarantee though
[14:00] <naught102> hehe
[14:00] <oddalot> mmmm...butter
[14:00] <naught102> oddalot: samba IS a sexy dance though
[14:00] <naught102> not very appropriate
[14:00] <ldiamond> I have a driver that makes my ubuntu hang at bootup, how do I disable/blacklist/delete that driver (I can access the hard drive from a ubuntu VM).
[14:00] <FloodBot2> naught102: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <bazhang> GhostFish, please try to use the terminal to update and see if there are any errors there
[14:00] <neversfelde> Hello, I have a new WLAN Card Atheros AR5212/AR5213 on Kubuntu 8.04. The card is listed after iwconfig, but there are no scanning results. Does somebody have any experiences with that problem?
[14:00] <oddalot> i can't dance, i'm a lame white dude with a computer
[14:00] <naught102> what the???
[14:00] <babolat> !ot | naught101
[14:00] <Dr_willis> SMB => samba - sort of a play on words also.
[14:01] <bazhang> oddalot, please head to offtopic with that thanks
[14:01] <oddalot> with what?
[14:01] <joako> ey i have one AR242X!!
[14:01] <babolat> oddalot, u know what
[14:01] <oddalot> no, please explain
[14:01] <MOras> I would like to install ubuntu but I can't
 Please! I just installed Ubuntu 8.4 but i could not get internet connection, i have 4 modes to connect: 1> wireless , Atheros AR5007eg  2> PCMCIA CDMA Modem Yiso C893, 3> Wired cable, Realtek 8139 family, 4> Serial modem, Not detected. Please! Give a step by step to connect on the Internet !!!
[14:02] <joako> let me get you the link, maybe it help
[14:02] <bazhang> MOras, please explain with much more info thanks
[14:02] <babolat> MOras: how so?
[14:02] <lainy> naught101: thanks
[14:02]  * oddalot simba
[14:02] <[JamesR27]> hi
[14:03] <sortudo_78> ikonia: Are you reading ???
[14:03] <david__--> bazhang:does the wireless blue light work on hardy? is there a terminal command to turn it on?
[14:03] <MOras> I have a black screen 2 minutes after I have loaded the cd
[14:03] <Pici> sortudo_78: he hasn't been active for about 2 hours now.
[14:03] <[JamesR27]> My win 32 partition is mounted as read only ... except for root ...
[14:03] <[JamesR27]> any help would be appreciated
[14:03] <sortudo_78> Pici: thanks you
[14:03] <MOras> my computer is a lkap$
[14:03] <bazhang> david__--, it may or may not--it does not on mine--the main thing being the connectivity
[14:03] <MOras> laptop sorry
[14:03] <babolat> MOras, which cd? alternate or desktop?
[14:03] <joako> http://crokan.blogspot.com/2008/04/atheros-ar5007ar242x-en-debian-lenny.html
[14:04] <MOras> desktop
[14:04] <joako> i take that one as an example
[14:04] <moepman> how do i get rid of compiz in hern?
[14:04] <joako> and it works
[14:04] <bazhang> joako, those should be in the madwifi drivers by now
[14:04] <mad_at_wifi> hi all. I have a brand new WD 500 Caviar  Western Digital  HDD and this one is taking over 30mins to format to ext3 (465GB ). It is still not done but how long do these formats typicall take?
[14:04] <bazhang> moepman, alt f2 metacity --replace
[14:05] <bazhang> mad_at_wifi, give it a bit longer
[14:05] <masaca> i have a problem
[14:05] <bazhang> hi Jack_Sparrow  :)
[14:05] <babolat> MOras, how did you burn your ISO image, as data cd or as an ISO image?
[14:05] <mad_at_wifi> bazhang, okay.. It took 1hr btw
[14:05] <masaca> the x has gone in gnome
[14:06] <sortudo_78> jako, tkans but frist i need to download some dependecies in the atheros ar5007eg processes, i have the driver on my machine but i cant download the dependencies, without thise dependecies the driver did not work !!
[14:06] <Dr_willis> mad_at_wifi,  odd..  I was thinking formating ext3 500gb - just took a few mins on my box.
[14:06] <masaca> who can help me?
[14:06] <bazhang> mad_at_wifi, that kindof thing you dont want to interrupt if possible
[14:06] <MOras> ISO of course, I can see in the first minutes the logo Ubuntu then nothing
[14:06] <ldiamond> I have a driver that makes my ubuntu hang at bootup, how do I disable/blacklist/delete that driver (I can access the hard drive from a ubuntu VM).
[14:06] <shinn816> ni hao
[14:06] <shinn816> hi
[14:06] <shinn816> jdfka
[14:06] <shinn816> fdas
[14:06] <bazhang> sortudo_78, have you tried the linux-restricted-modules yet
[14:06] <erUSUL> shinn816: stop
[14:07] <bazhang> !cn | shinn816
[14:07] <gorthaug> hi, i've a laptop with an nvidia 6600, i'v installed the nvidia drivers that are in the repositories... but my tty don't work..
[14:07] <masaca> in gnome mode when i start firefox or other programms there is no button to end it
[14:07] <MOras> I have tried w/ 7.10 & 8.4
[14:07] <Lo_Pan>  /ws 79
[14:07] <mad_at_wifi> bazhang, Dr_willis I did not interrupt it. It just took 1:04 hr to finish the format and I thought that it was very odd considering that formating my other 250GB HDD took just around 10mins
[14:07] <babolat> MOras, and u are sure that your livecd isn't a bad burn?
[14:07] <sortudo_78> bazhang: what is that, i did not try that !!!
[14:07] <bazhang> shinn816, /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:07] <trisa> hiii
[14:07] <shinn816> #ubuntu_tw
[14:07] <MOras> twice I have checked
[14:07] <Dr_willis> mad_at_wifi,  very odd..
[14:07] <bazhang> sortudo_78, that is the restricted-modules for your kernel
[14:08] <John117> Does anything in ubuntu work like its supposed to?  I'm trying to install SAMBA and it asks to put in the Ubuntu CD and press enter.  I DID that and it won't recognize it.  I can browse the disk and everything. It works fine from "Computer"
[14:08] <fnord__> Oi! should fiesty be crawling on a computer that has 256 ram and 1.5g? ive never seen *buntu be this slow before :(
[14:08] <masaca> who will help me??????????????????
[14:08] <mad_at_wifi> Dr_willis, How can I check for bad blocks?
[14:08] <bazhang> shinn816, /join #ubuntu-tw thanks
[14:08] <sortudo_78> bazhank, could you help me trying that ???
[14:08] <masaca> WILL SOMEBODY HELKP ME????
[14:08] <mad_at_wifi> masaca, no one will jump up in joy to help you. You should just shoot a question and you will eventually get an answer.
[14:08] <babolat> MOras, try booting the LiveCD with no acpi option
[14:08] <Xcell> ask
[14:08] <bazhang> !helpme | masaca
[14:08] <masaca> I DID
[14:08] <masaca> OK
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca Please do not repeat or shout.
[14:09] <ldiamond> I have a driver that makes my ubuntu hang at bootup, how do I disable/blacklist/delete that driver (I can access the hard drive from a ubuntu VM).
[14:09] <bazhang> masaca, you may get an answer in two minutes
[14:09] <bazhang> masaca, or maybe not
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca Your problem is simple.  you just lost your window decorator
[14:09] <masaca> WHEN I START A PROGRAMM IN GNOME THERE IS NO EXIT BUTTON ANYMORE
[14:09] <MOras> where and when can I do that? at the very beginning? by pressing F6 ?
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> HI bazhang
[14:09] <jdavies> !caps | Jack_Sparrow
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca again. please do not shout
[14:10] <TheFourthOne> Anyone having issues with firefox turning grey and freezing?
[14:10] <bazhang> jdavies, :)
[14:10] <ryukun> moepman: you can look for an answer at nvnews.net
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> open a terminal window.
[14:10] <Dr_willis> mad_at_wifi,  the badblocks command I think. :)
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca
[14:10] <masaca> yes
[14:10] <mad_at_wifi> oops
[14:10] <babolat> TheFourthOne, you are not the first, bor the fourth to have that problem.. firefox 3 beta 5 has known stability issues
[14:10] <masaca> i did
[14:10] <sortudo_78> I think the esyer way to get inetrnet connectio is to install PCMCIA moldules, could anybody help me installinh PCMCIA moldue ???
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca one sec..
[14:10] <iuri> how to allow listening port 22 via ssh?
[14:11] <iuri> my box doesn;t accept ssh conections
[14:11] <TheFourthOne> I actually removed 3 and went to 2 and still have the issue
[14:11] <MOras> acpi = off, you mean  that's not a video card problem ? but alimentation problem ?  am I right ?
[14:11] <TomorrowAgain> I was looking through synaptic package manager and thought something, maybe someone here could answer this question... If I tried to un-installed synaptic from the synaptic package manager what would happen?
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> masaca sorry try this...    compiz --replace
[14:11] <babolat> TheFourthOne, which flashplugin do u have?
[14:11] <TheFourthOne> nonfree
[14:11] <bazhang> sortudo_78, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules (for your kernel) uname -r will tell the correct ones
[14:11] <masaca> ok
[14:12] <mad_at_wifi> Dr_willis, I got this HDD as a replacement for the previous one (same model) that got bad sectors on the second of arrival. So I am a little presumptious right now about this model.
[14:12] <orionrobot1> TomorrowAgain: funny question. I think you would quite simply barf your installation.
[14:12] <vsd> how do i connect through ftp?
[14:12] <babolat> MOras, if acpi off still fails, it probably is a graphics card problem
[14:12] <TomorrowAgain> haha
[14:12] <vsd> to my localhost?
[14:12] <TomorrowAgain> i thought so
[14:12] <mad_at_wifi> Dr_willis, I am using the badblocks command. Let's see how this goes
[14:12] <John117> Does anything in ubuntu work like its supposed to?  I'm trying to install SAMBA and it asks to put in the Ubuntu CD and press enter.  I DID that and it won't recognize it.  I can browse the disk and everything. It works fine from "Computer"
[14:12] <bazhang> TomorrowAgain, amusing but offtopic
[14:12] <babolat> TheFourthOne, turning off compiz while working in firefox might help
[14:12] <TomorrowAgain> sorry
[14:12] <ldiamond> I have a driver that makes my ubuntu hang at bootup, how do I disable/blacklist/delete that driver (I can access the hard drive from a ubuntu VM).
[14:12] <TheFourthOne> I have the turning gray part narrowed down to compiz because other programs do it as well, but firefox still freezes
[14:12] <sortudo_78> bazhang: thaks, but unfourtunately i dont have any internet connection at the monent :(((
[14:12] <babolat> !who | TheFourthOne
[14:13] <orionrobot1> Not really off topic - but would be a bad thing to do.
[14:13] <RandomCake> hi, I'm trying to get a dual boot system working, Ubuntu boots fine, but select the Windows XP and a load of gibberish is shown and nothing else, what's this mean? :S
[14:13] <MOras> babolat are there any problem w/ radeon HD2600 cards and ubuntu ?
[14:13] <Dr_willis> John117,  lose the attitude a little bit.  the cd is being asked for because its in your 'sources' remove the cd from the sources,, and it will grab the files off the internet.
[14:13] <bazhang> sortudo_78, ah that is a problem then-->no way to get ethernet on that for a short time?
[14:13] <Dr_willis> John117,  i do belive there has been some updates to samba since  the official release.   so you will want to get it from the internet anyway
[14:14] <babolat> MOras, not that i've heard of.. but i don't hear much. sorry but Google might be able to help u w/ that
[14:14] <sortudo_78> bazhang: Yas, at the moment i am out of any network, wired or not :(((
[14:15] <bazhang> RandomCake, grub error or windows issue?
[14:15] <TheFourthOne> babolat: Thanks for the info, I'll give it a shot.
[14:15] <kelvin911> how to compile GTKsee?
[14:15] <ldiamond> Does any1 here know how to disable/blacklist/delete a driver?
[14:15] <bazhang> sortudo_78, you do have a wired connection available and it will not work? let us try and fix tht first then
[14:15] <iuri> does anyone know how to enable ssh access on ubuntu?
[14:15] <RandomCake> erm, can't really tell, bazhang it's imediately after I select windows from the Grub menu :S
[14:16] <orionrobot1> Kelvin911 - is that not in the GTKsee docs? That is not really an ubuntu specific thing.
[14:16] <babolat> ldiamond, xorg.conf ??
[14:16] <bazhang> RandomCake, what error message do you get
[14:16] <orionrobot1> iuri: Look for openssh server in synaptic.
[14:16] <sortudo_78> bazhang: It is Ok, lets try to fix wirede networ !!!
[14:16] <ricanelite> anyone here knows which runs faster? virtualbox or vmware?
[14:16] <GustavoImago> sortudo_78: brasileiro?
[14:16] <MOras> babolat in fact I have checked and i have found in the internet, on amd-ati' s website a linux driver, the extension is .run, would it be possible to run it  during the installation
[14:16] <sortudo_78> Sin, brasileiro
[14:17] <RandomCake> just the gibberish, no error message, stuff like $%^*&
[14:17] <orionrobot1> ricablite: If performance is the key, which guest OS will you run?
[14:17] <GustavoImago> :)
[14:17] <bazhang> sortudo_78, okay ;] connect the ethernet then open a terminal and type sudo dhclient eth0
[14:17] <babolat> MOras, .run requires compiling.. i'm not really sure.. hey bazhang, sorry to interrupt... will one be able to compile under livecd session?
[14:17] <xintron> I tried to get my wireless to work but it wouldn't. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D
[14:17] <orionrobot1> ricablite: You may want to consider UML (User Mode Linux) instead.
[14:17] <corban_> is there a channel for Ubuntu Server edition?
[14:17] <xintron> Does anyone know how I can get my Broadcome BCM4318 AirForece One to work?
[14:18] <kelvin911> what GTKsee doc?
[14:18] <bazhang> babolat, unless he has some wild casper-rw multi session cd not likely :)
[14:18] <orionrobot1> ricanelite: Sorry - I meant you - just couldnt spell... Depending on which OS you have as guest you may want to try UML (User Mode Linux) instead for performance.
[14:18] <CLEARviewF> MOras: why does your nick like that?
[14:18] <bazhang> xintron, the fwcutter does not do it? what have you tried and what errors have you gotten
[14:18] <bogey-> http://www.livingwithoutmicrosoft.org/
[14:19] <orionrobot1> kelvin911: http://gtksee.berlios.de/
[14:19] <Pici> !ot | bogey-
[14:19] <sortudo_78> bazhang: DHCPDISCOVER !!!
[14:19] <bazhang> bogey-, not here please
[14:19] <corban_> is it possible to set up Ubuntu server thru wireless only connection?
[14:19] <babolat> MOras, there u have it.. not likely.. thanks bazhang.. u might want to try acpi=off first MOras then compile than .run driver of yours when ubuntu is installed
[14:19] <Dr_willis> xintron,  i just instelled the proper fwcutter package and my card like that one worked.
[14:19] <xintron> bazhang: I tried this way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D
[14:19] <bazhang> sortudo_78, any offers?
[14:19] <sortudo_78> bazhang: NODHCOOFFER !!!
[14:19] <ricanelite> well i want to install windows xp or vista on the virtual machine
[14:19] <orionrobot1> corban_: Yes, but you will need a CD to seed it.
[14:19] <ricanelite> and im using Hardy
[14:19] <xintron> Dr_willis: ok, I started using ubuntu a few days ago so could you help me through this?
[14:20] <orionrobot1> ricanelite: Then you will need VMware of Vbox, but neither will give you performance.
[14:20] <Dr_willis> !find bc
[14:20] <MOras> babolat that's very kind of the you, you're the second one to advise me to turn off acpi, i think you are right. Many thanks
[14:20] <bazhang> sortudo_78, well that is too bad but the good news is that your card can see the router; how are you connected right now to irc?
[14:20] <ricanelite> okay
[14:20] <orionrobot1> Ricanelite: What would you use it for - it is not really suitable for games and stuff...
[14:20] <Dr_willis> xintron,  i dont rember the name of the package it was lilke bc43-fwcutter
[14:20] <corban_> a CD to seed it?
[14:20] <ricanelite> nah not games
[14:20] <corban_> i don't quite understand
[14:20] <Dr_willis> !info bc43-fwcutter
[14:21] <sortudo_78> bazhang: No working leasses in persistent database --- sleeping !!!
[14:21] <ricanelite> i can't watch baseball games on mlb.com
[14:21] <ricanelite> using linux
[14:21] <orionrobot1> corban_: Yup - so doing a complete install from wireless or net, you still need to start with a CD image.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> ricanelite,  yep. I hear that a lot in here.
[14:21] <xintron> Dr_willis: So I just download that package and it'll work then?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> xintron,  you USE the package manager to isntall things.
[14:21] <ricanelite> so i figure if I use vmware or vbox i could watch the games and still be in my linux desktop
[14:21] <corban_> no what i mean
[14:21] <Dr_willis> xintron,  if you have no internet at all.. well.. that makes it harder. I would run a wire  to get the packages
[14:21] <ricanelite> than rebooting into my windows machine
[14:22] <bazhang> sortudo_78, how are you connected right now? on a windows box or other
[14:22] <xintron> Dr_willis: I uninstalled the gnome-network-manager since the other tutorial said so, should I reinstall it?
[14:22] <sortudo_78> bazhang:  i did not tryed to reset my router, should i try that, my actual connection will be broken ????
[14:22] <babolat> Dr_willis, the package manager technically downloads the packages still ;)
[14:22] <corban_> i have the cd in the drive but once it is installed i want it to only be connected wirelessly
[14:22] <xintron> Dr_willis: and also remove the ndiswrapper?
[14:22] <orionrobot1> corban_: that is not an issue. However, you may want to ensure your wireless hardware is okay.
[14:22] <Dr_willis> xintron,  what tutorial? All i had to do get my wireless card going from a clean install was install that proper fwcutter package.. i dident need any tutorial. it was a 1 min install and it was done and working
[14:22] <xintron> Dr_willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5BAirForce_One_54g%5D
[14:23] <djoko> hi im new in linux
[14:23] <Dr_willis> xintron,  that guide may be a bit old and not using the latest hardy release information
[14:23] <ryukun> hi djoko
[14:23] <xintron> Dr_willis: E: Couldn't find package bc43-fwcutter
[14:23] <sortudo_78> bazhang: I am on my windows desktop connected at my router via wureless, and trying to connect my Ubuntu notebook at the Internet !!!
[14:23] <corban_> well the card worked when it was in this PC should ubuntu server auto detect it?
[14:24] <Dr_willis> xintron,  i dont know the exact name  search for 'fwcutter' in the package manager
[14:24] <ubuntu_> Have I got it right? WIndows doesn't start correcty and I should run a virus test. So I can run ubuntu live cd, install avast to ita and scan the hd?
[14:24] <babolat> sortudo_78, give the exclamations a rest
[14:24] <djoko> gak iso boso jowo
[14:24] <bazhang> sortudo_78, the ubuntu box is installed or on live cd
[14:24] <sortudo_78> bazhang: notebook, is at my side !!!
[14:24] <atlef> !clamav | ubuntu_:
[14:24] <sortudo_78> bazhang: installed on hd !!!
[14:24] <xintron> Dr_willis: There are no matches :/
[14:24] <ubuntu_> atlef: Why not avast?
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !find fwcutter
[14:25] <sortudo_78> bazhang: but i instaleed it fromm a live cd !!!!
[14:25] <ubuntu_> atlef: I know clamav is for linux too
[14:25] <odinsbane> good morning.  I'm having some difficulty using wpa encryption for wireless network.
[14:25] <atlef> ok
[14:25] <xintron> Dr_willis: found it
[14:25] <Dr_willis> xintron,  odd.. i see 2 matches there. :)
[14:25] <Dr_willis> you want the b43, not the bcm43
[14:25] <xintron> Dr_willis: Which one, bcm or the other one?
[14:25] <xintron> Dr_willis: ok
[14:25] <CLEARviewF> MOras: is your nick relative to your last name? or family name?
[14:25] <ubuntu_> CAn I scan hd with avast from live cd?
[14:26] <bazhang> ubuntu_, avast is not on live cd
[14:26] <xintron> Dr_willis: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:26] <xintron> elea: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:26] <ubuntu_> bazhang: I can install it
[14:26] <babolat> ubuntu_, probably not, coz u'll need the av packages installed. and as far as i know, livecd can't do that
[14:26] <Dr_willis> xintron,  you can run one apt program/opackage manager at a time.. thats it.
[14:26] <odinsbane> Is there a way to tell if my netcard supports wpa encryption?
[14:26] <ubuntu_> av?
[14:26] <Dr_willis> xintron,  close out any others.
[14:26] <monkeyBox> How can I upgrade to the latest version of firefox?  (ie, FF3.0pre)
[14:26] <bazhang> ubuntu_, anti virus
[14:26] <xintron> Dr_willis: ah, didn't notice I was running another one
[14:26] <ubuntu_> I just installed xchat from universe repos on livecd
[14:27] <ubuntu_> i think they store to ram
[14:27] <bazhang> ubuntu_, then give it a shot :)
[14:27] <mysterycool> What is a .so file?
[14:27] <xintron> Dr_willis: b43-fwcutter is already the newest version.
[14:28] <jimcooncat> I'm having trouble renaming files with the mv and rename commands -- is there a simpler one I can use to "rename S*.gif a*.gif"?
[14:28] <ubuntu_> mysterycool: A library file
[14:28] <mysterycool> ubuntu_: Ok, thank you =]
[14:28] <MOras> I am now re-donwloading ubuntu, I was so upset that I've deleted the .iso, I will give it another try thanks to you
[14:28] <babolat> mysterycool, do u mean .iso?
[14:28] <ubuntu_> mysterycool: Or soemthing like that. Flash is stored as .so and it's a firefox plugin
[14:28] <jimcooncat> MOras: maybe it's in your trash or recycle bin so you don't have to redownload.
[14:28] <Dr_willis> xintron,  all i had to do to get my card working was install that package. (i may of rebooted afterwards) then ran the wireless config tool.
[14:28] <bazhang> ubuntu_, you know where to find avast?
[14:29] <Vlet> I'm finding that with ny nvidia 8600 gts (binary driver) and dual screens (with compiz off) I'm getting a lot of artifacting when moving/resizing/opening windows. Anyone know why or know how to fix it for that matter?
[14:29] <xintron> Dr_willis: What wireless config tool?
[14:29] <Dr_willis> xintron,  this was the first release of Ubujntu that my wireless actually worked.
[14:29] <Dr_willis> xintron,  the normal gnome one.
[14:29] <mysterycool> ubuntu_: And are .so files only for Linux?
[14:29] <ubuntu_> bazhang: Yes, already downloaded, btw I should have put my nickname, i'm really lartza__
[14:29] <xintron> Dr_willis: Is there a way of scanning for wireless networks?
[14:29] <MOras> nope I have shift  deleted it
[14:29] <ubuntu_> mysterycool:I think so
[14:29] <bazhang> lartza_ hi!
[14:29] <Dr_willis> xintron,  that tool  scanned,  I recall entering my ssid manually, since my wireless point dosent broadcast the ssie
[14:30] <case_> mysterycool, most of unices use .so to name dynamic library, but linux .so only work on linux :)
[14:30] <ubuntu_> :)
[14:30] <xintron> Dr_willis: I know there is a wireless where I am atm, but "sudo iwlist scan" returns "wlan0     No scan results
[14:30] <titusg> I can't set up wifi on my samsung laptop -- the network uses a wep hex key but all attempts to connect just seem to time out...any tips on where to start?
[14:30] <ubuntu_> mysterycool: Explain about *.so files http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_library
[14:30] <ushimitsudoki> Vlet: twinview or Xinerama (xinerama performance may account for what you describe)
[14:31] <bazhang> titusg, any way to set to open for testing purposes? or do you know it works
[14:31] <Dr_willis> xintron,  i dont use wireless much. Could be your other 'tweaking' goofed somthing up. Or could be your specific card/chipset has issues. could be the pase of the moon.   :)
[14:31] <xintron> Dr_willis: haha :)
[14:32] <kelvin911> how to compile a program?
[14:32] <titusg> bazhang: hi, yes it works for other boxes, one pc running gutsy (the laptop is hardy)
[14:32] <kelvin911> do i need sudo ./configure ?
[14:32] <kelvin911> sudo make
[14:32] <kelvin911> sudo make install ?
[14:32] <lartza_> kelvin911: Depends on program
[14:32] <kelvin911> gtksee
[14:32] <lartza_> kelvin911: In most cases you need to do make
[14:32] <lartza_> wait
[14:32] <Vlet> ushimitsudoki: ahh... I switched to xinerama only because I found the bahavior of new dialog boxes opening split between the two monitors rather annoying :-/
[14:32] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  you normally only need to sudo make isntall at the last.
[14:32] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  others do NOT need sudo
[14:33] <lartza_> first ./configure
[14:33] <lartza_> then make
[14:33] <mysterycool> ubuntu_: Hmm, k, thanks for the help! =]
[14:33] <lartza_> then sudo make install
[14:33] <bazhang> titusg, this box ever connected wirelessy though?
[14:33] <kelvin911> pls see http://www.pastebin.ca/1010516
[14:33] <titusg> bazhang: no -- you think I should set it to open for a bit?
[14:33] <lartza_> kelvin911: You find instructions from file called INSTALL in most cases
[14:33] <kelvin911> only make install need sudo?
[14:33] <monkeyBox> Why hasn't ubuntu released any updates to FF yet?    FF is already up to 3.0pre.  3.0b5 is still buggy
[14:34] <ushimitsudoki> Vlet: i can tell you when running Xinerama, I get much poorer performance than with TwinView or seperate X screens. Something to look at, perhaps
[14:34] <jaypro> there's a command to edit the display for twinview.... i cant remember what it is.... something like "nvidia-glx-config", but it doesnt work
[14:34] <jaypro> anyone know?
[14:34] <bazhang> titusg, what chipset is it; wep is not very secure you know--better to go with wpa/wpa2 if possible
[14:34] <lartza_> kelvin911: ./configure, then make and then sudo make install
[14:34] <Dr_willis> ushimitsudoki,  i noticed issues when using Twinview + xinerama at the same time. With Just TwinView - i rarely have any issues.. except for a few REALLY brain dead programs.
[14:34] <kelvin911> do i need to put the source file to somewhere first ?
[14:35] <kelvin911> or does it ask me where to install the porgram?
[14:35] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  you can compile from anywhaere. it dosetn matter
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> Dr_willis: yes I agree..TwinView is my preference when possible
[14:35] <Pici> monkeyBox: 1) Ubuntu is not a rolling release 2) Mozilla has only released FF3b5, -pre is the nightly snapshot iirc.
[14:35] <kelvin911> after it compiles how to uninstall?
[14:35] <kelvin911> just delete it?
[14:35] <Vlet> ushimitsudoki: perhaps I shall play with the other two options a bit then :)
[14:35] <titusg> bazhang: I think the router is only capable of wep -- I don't know about chipsets...the driver is apparently iwl3945
[14:36] <alastair_> I'm having num lock issues. xev seems to be returning the correct keysym for the numpad in each num lock state but it doesn't seem to be doing the right thing with it
[14:36] <monkeyBox> Pici, ah, I see. thanks
[14:36] <bazhang> titusg, this is gutsy or hardy
[14:36] <Sortudo> bazhang: I tryed to reset my router, but it did not work :((( still no dhcfoffer reciver !!!!
[14:37] <lartza_> how do i run avast?
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !avast
[14:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[14:37] <kelvin911> whats wrong ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1010519
[14:37] <Dr_willis> I was thinking thee was some front ends for it you could install.
[14:37] <bazhang> lartza_, likely point it at the files you want and then run it--it has a gui I presume
[14:37] <kelvin911> it says something like C compiler error
[14:37] <lartza_> installed deb and cant update with avast-update
[14:38] <IanClark> does anyone here know where a list of Linux drivers for optical drives would be?
[14:38] <lartza_> needs to run it once first
[14:38] <lartza_> kelvin911: suod apt-get install build-essentials
[14:38] <lartza_> suod > sudo
[14:38] <kelvin911> and what does it do?
[14:39] <Dr_willis> lartza_,  Huh? You did run 'sudo avast-update' ?
[14:39] <bazhang> minus the -s :)
[14:39] <starcannon> WOOHOO! success! I have a shiny new 8.04 64bit server dual booting along side a nice 7.10 32bit desktop i'm so stoked I could just purr
[14:39] <kelvin911> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[14:39] <Pici> kelvin911: You need to install the build-essential metapackage.
[14:39] <Pici> kelvin911: no s
[14:39] <bazhang> no -s kelvin911
[14:39] <lartza_> sry kelvin911
[14:39] <lartza_> Dr_willis: You have to run avast! at least once before you can update it.
[14:39] <IanClark> I need to match mine up.  It looks like none of my CD burners will recognize my optical drive.  I can play DVD's so something is detecting a "CD ROM", but the driver isn't specific enough.
[14:40] <bazhang> lartza_, where did you get the deb? getdeb.net?
[14:40] <lartza_> bazhang: official avast site, has worked earlier
[14:40] <kelvin911> how do u know all this stuffs?
[14:40] <lartza_> with another computer
[14:40] <kelvin911> apt-get install build-essential stuffs?
[14:40] <lartza_> ?
[14:40] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  lots of reading.
[14:40] <bazhang> lartza_, let me try and run it hang on a sec
[14:40] <Pici> kelvin911: apt-get install build-essential
[14:40] <lartza_> bazhang: i just dont know whats avast bin called
[14:40] <titusg> bazhang: sorry, I was away -- this is hardy
[14:41] <Enselic> kelvin911: and sudo apt-get built-dep [program]
[14:41] <Sortudo> bazhang: Please! lets work to make ubuntu saliing on the intenet :)))
[14:41] <lartza_> now it worked
[14:41] <adedov> hi all! after upgrading to Hardy, I am constantly experiencing problem with watching movies. after watching some youtube with Firefox, totem freezes, sound stops working... closing firefox sometimes helps, but I am not sure if helps for sure.
[14:41] <lartza_> it said avast: command not found, but now it started
[14:41] <kelvin911> http://www.pastebin.ca/1010521 error?
[14:42] <kelvin911> i install build-essential already
[14:42] <Dr_willis> lartza_,  your path may of not been updated or somt other quirk
[14:42] <lartza_> yea
[14:42] <Enselic> kelvin911: it complains about not finding gtk-config, but that program is really obsolete
[14:42] <Enselic> kelvin911: are you sure the package you have is the latest one?
[14:43] <epoxxy-wrk> when i look on movies they only is visible when they're in full screen?
[14:43] <kelvin911> u mean gtksee?
[14:43] <Enselic> kelvin911: yes
[14:43] <kelvin911> dont know
[14:43] <Enselic> kelvin911: it should look for pkg-config instead (which since long has replaced gtk-config)
[14:43] <bazhang> titusg, that same card works great here; though with the iwl and not the ipw try disabling the restricted drivers for that card
[14:43] <lartza_> kelvin911: You have what ubuntu version?
[14:43] <Enselic> kelvin911: oh and it seems to require GTK 1.x
[14:43] <Enselic> kelvin911: that's also super old
[14:44] <kelvin911> i have hardy
[14:44] <kelvin911> gtksee is dated http://www.pastebin.ca/1010521
[14:44] <lartza_> ok
[14:44] <bazhang> Sortudo, is eth0 set to roaming?
[14:44] <kelvin911> gtksee is dated 2004-11-13 04:00
[14:44] <Enselic> kelvin911: try   sudo apt-get install libgtk1.1.6-dev
[14:44] <kelvin911> i want a program that works exactly like acdsee 2.4
[14:44] <Enselic> kelvin911: what is gtksee?
[14:44] <Pici> kelvin911: gtksee has not been developed since 2004, is there not a better app to do what you need to do?
[14:44] <kelvin911> any idea?
[14:45] <Enselic> kelvin911: what does acdsee do?
[14:45] <kelvin911> picture viewer
[14:45] <lartza_> GQView, DigiKam
[14:45] <bazhang> lartza_, that deb is a converted rpm--may be best to just use clamav for what you want
[14:45] <Pelo> anyone using  gdesklets or screenets to display weather from www.weather.com having connection issues since yesterday ?
[14:45] <Enselic> kelvin911: what is wrong with the GNOME one?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> theres a bajillion+1 picture viewers out there. :)
[14:45] <kelvin911> after i run ./configure there is nothing change in my system configure, right?
[14:45] <Dr_willis> wine irfanview.exe
[14:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:46] <kelvin911> gnome one sucks
[14:46] <lartza_> bazhang, i got it already
[14:46] <Enselic> kelvin911: what's wrong with it?
[14:46] <kelvin911> i also try gthumb but they dont work the way i want
[14:46] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  search the package manager - thers at least 5  in there,
[14:46] <bazhang> lartza_, PM?
[14:46] <Pelo> kelvin911, ./configure only looks at the package you are building for missing dependencies
[14:46] <kelvin911> in acdsee i can middle click to go full screen
[14:46] <lartza_> bazhang: ?
[14:46] <bazhang> lartza_, private message?
[14:46] <lartza_> bazhang: I can't send private
[14:46] <lartza_> bazhang: Not registered
[14:46] <lartza_> :)
[14:47] <kelvin911> and double click image to go to image browser
[14:47] <lartza_> and used this channel adn network about a year
[14:47] <bazhang> lartza how about /join #lartza
[14:47] <lartza_> that worked
[14:47] <kelvin911> and also the image should open in 1:1 normal resolution
[14:47] <lartza_> of course
[14:47] <kelvin911> but none in gnome works like that
[14:47] <Sortudo> bazhang: Thank you very much, now i have to go out, see you.... bye bye
[14:48] <Enselic> kelvin911: what's wrong with pressing F11?
[14:48] <kelvin911> what f11?
[14:48] <Pelo> kelvin911, if the image is too big it gets resized to fit,  check the preferences
[14:48] <Enselic> kelvin911: that makes then Image Viewer fullscreen
[14:48] <kelvin911> i dont want it to resize
[14:48] <kelvin911> i am reading comics
[14:48] <Enselic> kelvin911: you want to be able to pan around?
[14:48] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  You do realize there are some comic-book reader programs out for linux?
[14:48] <Pelo> kelvin911, check the preferneces then you probably have  "fit" enabled
[14:48] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  been using some at work to read.. err... stuff. :)
[14:48] <kelvin911> i just want exactly how acdsee 2.4 works
[14:48] <Vlet> ushimitsudoki: You're right, twinview is much better. thanks!
[14:49] <Enselic> kelvin911: have you tried F-Spot?
[14:49] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  may be easier to just use acdsee and wine then.
[14:49] <kelvin911> i have f-spot
[14:49] <Pelo> kelvin911, comics worked fine for me,   or you can use evince as well,
[14:49] <hoonteke> question: I have a friend to whom I'd like to show Ubuntu.  Where can I find information on WUBI?  Specifically, how to install it as a Windows application.  Is it possible to get as a downloadable application, so that he doesn't need to burn a CD?
[14:49] <Enselic> kelvin911: otherwise it will be easy to setup GIMP to behave the way you want
[14:50] <kelvin911> f-spot sucks
[14:50] <kelvin911> no file manager
[14:50] <Dr_willis> !wubi | hoonteke
[14:50] <Pelo> hoonteke, webui doen'T install as a windows applicaton, it just installs rgular but from a running windows
[14:50] <kelvin911> and no mouse wheel to go to next picture
[14:50] <Pici> kelvin911: There are comic viewers out there...
[14:50] <bensode> Is it just me or are the apt update servers getting hammered?
[14:50] <Pelo> kelvin911, look in menu > application > add remove and search for comic
[14:50] <Enselic> kelvin911: in what file format are the comics?
[14:51] <hoonteke> Dr_willis, Pelo thanks for the info/pointers.  I'm looking now.
[14:51] <Pici> kelvin911: Such as comix and qcomicbook
[14:51] <Pelo> bensode, still in new release mode only been two weeks
[14:51] <kelvin911> comics come in differnt format
[14:51] <Dr_willis> I tend to use comix for my .cbr files
[14:51] <kelvin911> like jpg, png, or gif
[14:51] <xintron> I just reinstalled b43-fwcutter, do I have to reboot before I can use it?
[14:51] <Enselic> xintron: probably not
[14:51] <hellues> !paste
[14:52] <kelvin911> how to change middle click to behave like F11 in gThumb?
[14:52] <xintron> Enselic: how do I see if it works then?
[14:52] <Enselic> xintron: afaik only a Linux kernel upgrade requires reboot
[14:52] <kelvin911> and how to make default to normal instead of fit screen?
[14:52] <Deepthought> has anyone experiencxed boot-problems after the last updates to Hardy ?  (like not finding the partition or starting usplash - login screen)
[14:52] <bensode> Pelo, Yeah figured that was the case just saw the message about the repo mirrors.  It's also affecting previous versions as well.  Will take a look at the repomirror info
[14:52] <moya> is it possible to install ubuntu in text mode using the -desktop ISO ?
[14:52] <Enselic> xintron: try running it
[14:52] <Pelo> kelvin911, check in the edit > prefs  menu
[14:52] <xintron> Enselic: how?
[14:53] <Enselic> xintron: you don't know what you installed?
[14:53] <starcannon> moya maybe using the oem install, the alternate install cd is better suited though i think
[14:53] <MOras> bye all
[14:53] <kelvin911> how to make double click to goto file manager?
[14:53] <hoonteke> perfect, that was the site I needed.  I wonder why it's not more prominent on the Ubuntu.com mainsite?
[14:53] <{g}> Hey, Im installing some beta of Ubuntu 8 right now. When I do apt-get update/upgrade afterwards - will it have the same result as if I installed the current 8.04?
[14:53] <Pelo> bensode, change your mirror in  menu > system> admin > software soruces,  that occasionaly helps
[14:53] <xintron> Enselic: Yes, the firmwire for my wireless card, but how do I scan for wireless networks?
[14:53] <bensode> Pelo, No gui these are server installations
[14:53] <moya> starcannon: all I want is to install using LVM, the graphical installer don't give me that option
[14:53] <Pelo> bensode, you are on your own then,  I only know gui stuff
[14:54] <Enselic> xintron: NetworkManager is good for scanning for wireless networks
[14:54] <starcannon> moya you need the alternate install disk if you want LVM
[14:54] <bensode> Pelo, heh no problem I'll google it
[14:54] <Enselic> xintron: just clicking the icon should give you a popup of all available networks
[14:54] <W5CT> do i want to try the upgrade to 8.04 offerered in the package manager, or do a cd install?
[14:54] <starcannon> W5CT cd install
[14:54] <xintron> Enselic: It doesn't. Althought I know that here is a wirless network
[14:55] <W5CT> starcannon:  thanks, for safety's sake?
[14:55] <Enselic> xintron: does   iwconfig    give sensible output?
[14:55] <bensode> Ubottu also not responding to /msg ubottu repomirror either
[14:55] <Pelo> bensode, it would involve editing   the sources.list file,  I recommend you leave it alone and be patient,   only 2 weeks since the upgrade there are no major updates out
[14:55] <kelvin911> if i install ACDsee in wine, do i need to move the files to ~/.wine/drive_c to view the pictures?
[14:55] <xintron> !past
[14:55] <xintron> !paste
[14:56] <bensode> Pelo, Yep I got that but these are dapper and fiesty installs that are also hanging.
[14:56] <Pelo> W5CT, dl the alt -cd or the dvd and upgrade from that,  it's just quicker , the servers are still under heavy load
[14:56] <starcannon> W5CT yeah, most of the major issues I've seen here and on forums are coming from upgrade installs, clean cd install is the way to go, is how I did it and nothing went wrong here, FF3 is kinda clunky but thats bloat
[14:56] <Pelo> bensode, same physical machines
[14:56] <W5CT> thanks, starcannon and pelo
[14:56] <Pelo> bensode, the servers I mean
[14:56] <W5CT> may i quote you in the article?
[14:57] <Pelo> W5CT, what articles ?
[14:57] <Xcell> anyone know when ff will be complete?
[14:57] <W5CT> Pelo: a comparison of clean install and upgrade, for linux.com
[14:57] <xintron> this is my iwconfig output, does it look as it should? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10738/
[14:57] <Pelo> Xcell, couple of mouths, which is why the beta was included in the lts
[14:57] <LaneLimited> Hello people... Is it possible to change my wallpaper or even have a diff panel for all my workspaces? I'm using gnome  ? ? ?
[14:57] <stimpie> I would like to add 2 harddisk as a raid 1 (software) disk, could someone point me to some documentation how to do this?
[14:57] <Xcell> ah, ok thx
[14:57] <churchill> I got a D-link 510. I ran    lspci  and found it has Marvell W8300 chipset and there are no mad wifi drivers. I hears there is a windows drivers with RaLink solution ?
[14:58] <Xcell> I must  say tho, ff#3 is pretty fast
[14:58] <starcannon> LaneLimited I read about it a few months ago, but was too lazy to persue it, it looked pretty involved
[14:58] <stimpie> LaneLimited, with gnome there is no easy way
[14:58] <tjz1> Hi Everyone, have a webcam working fine under admin log in but not under other users log ins, any ideas? Using ubuntu 7.1
[14:58] <joaopinto>  /msg ubottu repomirror
[14:58] <joaopinto> ops
[14:59] <starcannon> Xcell you think so? I was considering loading up FF2, FF3 is feeling sluggish to me /shrug maybe i'm not fully appreciating something, I do like alot of the features though
[14:59] <LaneLimited> starcannon thanks, i will forget about that then
[14:59] <joaopinto> I can't find a working mirror today :P
[14:59] <Pelo> W5CT, I don'T think I've given you enough info to include a quote from me in an  articles, my comment was regarding  online upgrade / cd upgrade ,  cd upgrade is quicker,  clean instal  vs upgrade is up to you ,  I prefer upgrade personnaly , less messing about afterwards but my system is pretty easy , some ppl have had issues,  I can'T realy comment
[14:59] <LaneLimited> stimpie: ty
[14:59] <stimpie> tjz1, check the user privileges
[14:59] <xintron> this is my iwconfig output, does it look as it should? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10738/
[14:59] <Xcell> starcannon:  it is 2wice as fast than #2 for me
[15:00] <Xcell> but then again, i have all new stuff 2
[15:00] <W5CT> Pelo:  understood, thanks
[15:00] <tjz1> yeah I set the chown to 777
[15:00] <tjz1> still no joy
[15:00] <Xcell> no joy?
[15:00] <Xcell> lol, j/k
[15:00] <starcannon> Xcell cool, you mean starting it up or surfing pages ? I do think it loads faster for sure, I just percieved it to slow down on me while surfing
[15:00] <Xcell> it surfs like a new race car 4 me
[15:01] <bazzieb> who here has installed 8.04?
[15:01] <tjz1> stimpie: cant remember how to set chmod to all
[15:01] <Pelo> bazzieb, what is your issue ?
[15:01] <stimpie> tjz1, you can just use the users and groups tool
[15:01] <starcannon> Xcell awesome, lol I haven't timed any pages yet, I do have gutsy and hardy here side by side, I could do a little testing, sample is too small to be valid, but it'd be fun anyway
[15:01] <adedov> so, I need report a problem about freezing video due to FF?
[15:01] <Xcell> I am on 7.10 right now tho, till pulse audio gets repaired
[15:01] <anabolix> anyone know about LPI training?
[15:02] <Pelo> adedov, just ff frezing of the whole thing ?
[15:02] <joaopinto> W5CT, a clean install is usually a better option for those people which do system wide customizations, such scenarios are not covered by the upgrade tests and occasionally will cause from minor to major problems
[15:02] <tjz1> stimpie yeah tried that, which group and who etc?? not clear on using groups editor
[15:02] <xintron> Somehow my wireless card doesn't show any wireless networks around although here is at least one! This is my iwconfig output, is there something odd to it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10738/
[15:02] <ziomorti87> ciao a tutti
[15:02] <Pelo> later folks
[15:02] <adedov> Pelo: no totem or mplayer freezes if I watched flash with FF before
[15:02] <starcannon> Xcell what audio chipset were you running, I've had no audio issues at all yet, one on this HP Laptop, and one on an Nforce XFX motherboard
[15:03] <bazzieb> Pelo: nothing man, just wanted to know who has installed it and what they think
[15:03] <Xcell> realtek 88***
[15:03] <Xcell> auss
[15:03] <Xcell> asus
[15:03] <xintron> can I select vlc as my primary video palyer and how do I do that?
[15:03] <bazhang> !it | ziomorti87
[15:03] <W5CT> joapinto:  thanks!
[15:03] <tjz1> stimpie I have installed various web cam apps that have it working well in skype etc , but only on the admin log in
[15:03] <starcannon> bazzieb I've installed 8.04 and overall its my favorite release, some new things to learn/get used to, but over all I am very very pleased
[15:03] <adedov> Xcell: what an issue with pulse you mean?
[15:04] <churchill> cmoe on, no in for some fun in ralink driver installation? it sounds entertaining, no?
[15:04] <Xcell> via 8237 south bridge
[15:04] <bazzieb> cool, just installed it myself
[15:04] <ziomorti87> ciao a tutti
[15:04] <bazzieb> so far all is cool
[15:04] <ziomorti87> #ubuntu-it
[15:04] <starcannon> Xcell oh, ouch VIA is starting to finally get in the game, but its still a ways off from being easy
[15:04] <bazhang> ziomorti87, /join #ubuntu-it
[15:04] <ziomorti87> ciao a tutti
[15:04] <Xcell> the sound modual has only can do 1 job @ a time
[15:05] <anabolix> xintron: try right clicking the file > open file with (tab)... and choose vlc, should work
[15:05] <Xcell> it breaks if i use it in 2 series
[15:05] <DOOM_NX> hello, is anyone using d4x?
[15:05] <adedov> Xcell, so it may be mine problem too?
[15:05] <xintron> anabolix: But if I want it to select vlc as primary, so I only have to double click to open it with vlc?
[15:05] <RacoonyRE2> Hello togehther
[15:05] <Xcell> i would say so
[15:05] <bazhang> !it | ziomorti87
[15:06] <bazhang> ziomorti87, /join #ubuntu-it thanks
[15:06] <f0rmat> can someone please tell me why gnome just failed i rebooted it and all the graphics are now really bad and resulution is low i can't repair it as it doesn't have any options for higer resulution any more and the sound is broken it's happened 3 times so far
[15:06] <adedov> Xcell: well, do you know when it going to be fixed?
[15:06] <starcannon> f0rmat what video card?
[15:06] <Xcell> give it @least 60 days
[15:06] <vladuz976> hi there, everytime i try to play a dvd it says "verify the audio device is not already in use by another application" any idea what I can do?
[15:07] <Xcell> right now the hardware folks are on overtime
[15:07] <anabolix> xintron: after accessing the file "properties" and going to the "open with" tab and selecting a program... it should always open files of that type with the selected program... try it
[15:07] <starcannon> lol Xcell I'm gonna quote you in my signature someday, maybe 60 days from now ;)
[15:07] <adedov> Xcell: I see. thanks
[15:07] <f0rmat> starcannon, NVIDIA ( it worked last night i whent to sleep and when i came back gnome was white)
[15:07] <Xcell> lol star
[15:07] <johnA24> Does anyone know how to adjust where on the screen new windows appear?
[15:07] <starcannon> f0rmat did you add "nvidia" without the quotes to the /etc/modules file?
[15:07] <xintron> anabolix: Thanks
[15:07] <anabolix> xintron: no problem :D
[15:08] <xintron> anabolix: You don't have to knwo how to fix my wireless card? ^
[15:08] <xintron> ^^
[15:08] <IanClark> Just wondering if anyone knows why my Gnome desktop in Hardy won't show me a blank CD icon (for any blank CD).
[15:08] <f0rmat> starcannon, the system has been running for 2 days fine graphics fine, sound fine then all of a sudden Gnome randomly screws the system,
[15:09] <anabolix> xintron: sorry i cant help you there.. im new to ubuntu myself (actually new to linux)... keep asking in the channel im sure ull get some help
[15:09] <starcannon> f0rmat oh it didn't happen after a reboot?
[15:09] <f0rmat> no
[15:09] <anabolix> xintron: is your wireless enabled from your laptop though?
[15:09] <f0rmat> starcannon, i rebooted because all the gnome icons were gone and the taskbar
[15:10] <starcannon> f0rmat very odd, I've had this laptop up almost non stop since release day, nothing like that, I actually rebooted this morning after I downloaded some updates
[15:10] <xintron> anabolix: Yes, from what I can tell. However it wont find any networks even though here is at least one
[15:10] <MOras> I am back ! now I have a busybox problem, does it ring a bell
[15:10] <f0rmat> starcannon, :/ i dunno then
[15:10] <starcannon> f0rmat I always manually install the latest nvidia drivers though, I think that makes a big difference in xserver stability
[15:10] <xintron> anabolix: My wireless is set to roaming mode
[15:10] <starcannon> f0rmat I've got a guide up at pastebin if you wanna give it a shot
[15:11] <anabolix> xintron: in my past experience my wireless worked right after installation
[15:11] <seme> hi guys... is it true that ubuntu does not support switching back and forth between single and dual monitors (ie laptop that can have a monitor connected directly or through its base)
[15:11] <anabolix> xintron: sorry :S
[15:11] <xintron> anabolix: Not your fault :P
[15:11] <f0rmat> starcannon, yes please
[15:11] <seme> I've found many howto's but nothing thats part of ubuntu
[15:12] <anabolix> xintron: keep asking in the channel, good luck :D
[15:12] <AlienHunt> hey, does anyone here know how to install Ubuntu completely over an installation of Vista?
[15:12] <starcannon> f0rmat k hang on I'll grab the link fo ryou
[15:12] <tjz1> Hi Everyone, have a webcam working fine under admin log in but not under other users log ins, any ideas? Using ubuntu 7.1,I set the chown to 777. cant remember how to set chmod on /dev/video0 to "all". It does seem like a permissions issue, strange. The account I was in when installed the webcam apps and librarys will run the webcam without any problems BUT all other user log ins cannot even see the camera as a device, for example in skype.
[15:13] <joaopinto> tjz1, there is a "video" group, do those users belong to that group ?
[15:13] <tjz1> I will check now
[15:14] <starcannon> f0rmat http://pastebin.com/d4153556a this only works if you don't skip steps (yeah even if your sure you did it already) if you follow the guide you will have success, I have several nvidia cards of various models on various hardware, it works everytime
[15:14] <f0rmat> starcannon, thankyou
[15:14] <Antikrist> can someone help me wity a Hardy freeze problem?
[15:14] <starcannon> most welcome f0rmat anytime :)
[15:15] <Antikrist> ?
[15:15] <starcannon> need more input Antikrist, not sure I can help, but 'freeze' is pretty general, can you boil it down some?
[15:15] <tjz1> I see no "video" group
[15:15] <Antikrist> private
[15:16] <seme> hrm...
[15:16] <InforMed> Hi!
[15:16] <InforMed> Is there any way to install ipw wireless drivers on Hardy?
[15:17] <MrBill> Would having only 256mb of ram perhaps cause an install of Hardy to fail?
[15:17] <tjz1> Hi Everyone, have a webcam working fine under admin log in but not under other users log ins, any ideas? Using ubuntu 7.1,I set the chown to 777. cant remember how to set chmod on /dev/video0 to "all". It does seem like a permissions issue, strange. The account I was in when installed the webcam apps and librarys will run the webcam without any problems BUT all other user log ins cannot even see the camera as a device, for example in skype.
[15:19] <jomofo> Is /etc/environment the best place to add ~/bin to PATH?
[15:19] <joaopinto> jomofo, if you want it system wide, yes
[15:20] <hwilde> tjz1, /dev/video0 should be owned as root:video,  then you need to add the users to /etc/groups  under the video group
[15:21] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[15:21] <tjz1> hwilde: OK thats sound great...erm...how to I set root:video in a shell?
[15:21] <Cpudan80> FF3 is crashing with an error a lot for me
[15:21] <Cpudan80> The error is: gtk_plug_set_is_child: assertion failed: (!GTK_WIDGET (plug)->parent)
[15:21] <kjetil> how do I change my window manager? compiz set it to metacity while I want the one in xubuntu
[15:21] <hwilde> tjz1, chown root:video /dev/video0
[15:21] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know of a fix?
[15:21] <silverblade> what sort of hardware is needed for ubuntu server?
[15:21] <silverblade> ie, spec
[15:21] <hwilde> Cpudan80, there are a bunch of bug reports for ff3 and plugins... you should search the launchpad
[15:21] <Cifer> any1 has experience with gfxboot stuff :D?
[15:21] <_ruben> silverblade: nothign special
[15:21] <tjz1> hwilde thank you will try it now, would you mind sticking around a bit?
[15:22] <hwilde> tjz1, i'm here all the time
[15:22] <W8TAH> hi folks - how hard is it to build deb packages?
[15:22] <silverblade> any idea of the space requirements?
[15:22] <Cpudan80> hwilde: Well.... I see a bug report for that --- but no discussion on it
[15:22] <_ruben> silverblade: depends on what you want to store on it
[15:23] <_ruben> silverblade: bare install is probably 1-2G
[15:23] <aaroncampbell_> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio, I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[15:23] <Cifer> i removed grub, installied gfx-boot grub packet, configured it (i think) and installed the graphical theme - but now when i boot i get the error message that the theme cant be found ....
[15:24] <kjetil> how do I change the window manager?
[15:24] <_ruben> silverblade: one of my recent hardy virtual installs is 800MB
[15:24] <Kl4m> Would anybody have a trick to capture the screen while a menu is active?
[15:24] <jomofo> joaopinto, Thanks, system-wide is fine for what I"m doing.  Also, I see that .profile includes it by default, which is what I remember from previous installs.  I think the ~/bin directory didn't exist when I launched my shell which is what confused me
[15:24] <MartinCz> Why is /etc/  folder called ETC? What does it stand for/
[15:24] <MartinCz> ?
[15:24] <Cifer> i can still use my grub in text mode to boot to my os.... but i want graphic mode :)
[15:24] <kedare> hi all
[15:24] <tjz1> hwilde: Um I'v done the chown now I must log out and into another user to try it out in skype. If it doesnt work "I shall return"<swings away on castle curtains>
[15:25] <paulcross> K14m, delay
[15:25] <kedare> i have a little problem , i try to enable a kernel module for my toshiba laptop, but i get this error : FATAL: Error inserting toshiba (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/char/toshiba.ko): No such device
[15:25] <kedare> why ?
[15:26] <igorzolnikov> help plz. how can i enable ssl in apache2?
[15:27] <eatatjoes> i keep getting this error when trying to use alien to convert RPM to DEB "Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package VMware-server: postinst postrm preinst prerm
[15:27] <eatatjoes> Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.
[15:27] <eatatjoes> "
[15:27] <paulcross> I have to wait almost 1min before firefox opened,any idea?
[15:27] <ikonia> igorzolnikov: eatatjoes rpm to deb is not recommended at all
[15:28] <ikonia> eatatjoes: they are designed (the contents not the package) for different OS's
[15:28] <joaopinto> eatatjoes, you should use the .tar.gz instead
[15:28] <churchill> how do I use ndiswrapper to install windows wireless card drivers ?
[15:28] <eatatjoes> okay if u use the .tar.gz how do u get that to run? ive had problems with that (i guess i dont understand how to compile it correctly)
[15:28] <joaopinto> eatatjoes, the vmware install script will make sure the modules and services will be properly installed
[15:29] <joaopinto> eatatjoes, better google.com there are plenty of sites explaining it with detail
[15:29] <jakamo> Anyone got any ideas why Hardy Herron was released in it's current state?  I mean with all the incompatibilities, bugs etc.
[15:29] <joaopinto> you need to install some build packages, and then just run a script
[15:29] <jakamo> Reminds me too much of a windoes release.
[15:29] <craigbass1976> I have an ubuntu box here at work.  Is there some sort of chat server I can run for us at the office and are there windows clients to use it with?
[15:30] <joaopinto> craigbass1976, you can use a jabber server and a jabber client
[15:30] <joaopinto> craigbass1976, there are several options at the repositories
[15:30] <stefg> eatatjoes: you need to compile the kernel modules, which in turn need to be patched with the so-called any-any patch. read !build for info on how to compile modules and /j #vmware for support on getting the modules work on 2.6.24 kernel
[15:30] <MrBill> What is the easiest way to figure out if my AMD CPU supports 64bit instructions?
[15:30] <Xcell> morning Ljl
[15:30] <fnord__> Whats is the recomended hardware for hardy?
[15:30] <grolem> where can u get the drivers for a conexant modem for ubuntu hardy heron ?
[15:30] <craigbass1976> joaopinto, there are jabber clients for windows?
[15:31] <cellofellow> craigbass1976: pidgin and psi work great for jabber on windows.
[15:31] <starcannon> fnord__ nvidia vidcard, nforce chipset, amd or intel cpu, thats my favorite build if were doing a desktop, everything works great
[15:31] <joaopinto> craigbass1976, yes, pidgin for example
[15:32] <fnord__> starcannon, i was wondering more about how much ram/cpu hardy needs to run smoothly
[15:32] <joaopinto> fnord__, 256 mem minimum
[15:32] <cellofellow> anybody know why GNOME apps, and this now includes GIMP for some reason, can't print to an IPP printer?
[15:32] <fnord__> i have 256 and 1.5 mhz and it crawls
[15:32] <cellofellow> Evince won't, so I have to use acroread to print PDFs.
[15:32] <joaopinto> fnord__, you should go with xubuntu instead
[15:32] <stefg> cellofellow: cups is running?
[15:33] <cellofellow> stefg: yes
[15:33] <Xcell> fnord__:  you need atleast 512
[15:33] <khakane> ugh ubuntu been giving me so much shit on sata drives lately
[15:33] <stefg> fnord__: consider xubuntu
[15:33] <fnord__> Xcell, thanks
[15:33] <starcannon> fnord__ I have 1gb memory on an everex cloudbook and it works smoothly, ram is the key, cpu anything over 500mhz (of course faster is better but over 500 will get you in the game)
[15:33] <bazhang> !ohmy | khakane
[15:34] <Xcell> corsair is good ram fnord__
[15:34] <Xcell> get some
[15:34] <jescis> Why is the tty(1-6) console's monospace font look different then in xterm?
[15:34] <fnord__> ive used xubuntu before but didint like the functinality of it very much,think ill try again
[15:34] <khakane> who said swearing wasnt friendly?
[15:34] <dadan> my 2 bars (the one from the top and teh bottom one)from gnome have disappeard what can i do?
[15:35] <Kl4m> fnord: the memory is likely the problem
[15:35] <stefg> Xcell: 'cause x-fonts and consolefonts are 2 different things. ubuntu customizes the consolefont to 'Terminus' imho, so you need the corresponding x-font and set xterm to use that
[15:35] <Xcell> agreed
[15:35] <bazhang> !resetpanels | dadan
[15:35] <stefg> sorry, that was for jescis
[15:36] <cellofellow> might it be that the I'm using the Raw Que driver?
[15:36] <cgentry72> can someone help me fix a problem? I have a usb flash drive and when I plug it in it never shows up.  However, if I boot with it plugged in, it does.
[15:36] <ikonia> pwd
[15:36] <ikonia> oops
[15:36] <ikonia> sorry
[15:36] <jescis> stefg: so I'm stuck the way it is?
[15:37] <dadan> ubottu: i get this message: gnome-panel: no process killed
[15:37] <aaroncampbell_> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio, I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[15:37] <DNC_005> Hi all
[15:38] <cl0s> I can't get hardy cd to install or run live @ all on my vaio laptop
[15:38] <DNC_005> quick question, can external hard drives only contain one partition? i have 1 fat32 partition on there, i shrunk it but it seems to stop me making another
[15:38] <hwilde> cl0s, check cd for defects
[15:39] <cl0s> tried various different cds, and ran the cd check on them..
[15:39] <frostburn> does network manager not work for cisco vpns?  I entered in the correct information and nm-applet died, and no connection was made
[15:39] <cl0s> its something with the new kernel and sony vaios
[15:39] <hwilde> DNC_005, if you shrunk the existing partition then you can access the partition table, so you should be able to create a new one.
[15:39] <eracc> dadan, ubottu is a 'bot. bazhang had it send you the message: <bazhang> !resetpanels | dadan
[15:39] <jarleih> hi, my machine does not automatically connect to the internet, however the settings are fine because after sudo ifup eth0 internet works just fine
[15:39] <cl0s> i seen people had to disable the splash if they do an update from 7.10 and install it, but have to login using the old kernel to do it..
[15:39] <DNC_005> thats what i was thinking, bu it won't let me add another partition
[15:39] <hwilde> jarleih, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file please
[15:39] <cgentry72> can someone help me fix a problem? I have a usb flash drive and when I plug it in it never shows up.  However, if I boot with it plugged in, it does.
[15:39] <hwilde> !gparted | DNC_005
[15:40] <cl0s> i want to install clean with just the new kernel how can i disable it for installation?
[15:40] <jescis> stefg: so how do I change the font, or can I?
[15:40] <cgentry72> or point me someplace on the internet
[15:40] <jarleih> cannot do that right now, I'm on another computer with windoze
[15:40] <hwilde> cl0s, on the boot screen go to expert mode and where it says splash take that out
[15:40] <grolem> how do you connect to the net via a dial-up connection on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[15:41] <jarleih> via a router with a static ip
[15:41] <cl0s> thanks, I didnt see that, will try in a few
[15:41] <cl0s> @ hwilde
[15:41] <hwilde> cl0s, you need to edit the boot line
[15:41] <Xcell> hi luke_
[15:42] <cl0s> oh.. I know what you're saying, I think i tried that (maybe i tried --no-splash), i'll try completely removing it though
[15:42] <hwilde> cl0s, you can take out the quiet option too and see the messages
[15:42] <mad_max02> whats the best site for gnome eyecandy ?
[15:42] <hydrogen> www.kde.org
[15:43] <cl0s> hwilde: thanks, will def try
[15:43] <Kinetic> www.gnome-look.org/
[15:43] <Kinetic> mad_max_02 www.gnome-look.org/
[15:43] <eracc> grolem, when I helped folks use dial-up with Linux I installed KDE's dialer thing. Uhm, I think it is Kppp or something like that. Not sure what else to use that is GUI-ish.
[15:43] <mad_max02> thanks
[15:43] <cl0s> i get errors, it says Kernel Panic, i forget the exact errors though.
[15:43] <cl0s> I'm at work right now, sorry I don't have more details.
[15:44] <hwilde> cl0s, if 7.10 works do that and then upgrade
[15:44] <eracc> grolem, unfortunately no one I know uses dial-up now for about 2 years so that is all I can suggest.
[15:44] <grolem> eracc , i'll try that . but i used the network manager in the gnome panel  and that didn't work
[15:44] <stoneDJay> Hi... In my laptop my cpu fan is working always on max... how to solve it?  It will suck my battery... and my cpu is not at 100% all the time to fan act like this...
[15:45] <cl0s> I kind of wanted a clean install.. and only 1 kernel, but might just have to..
[15:45] <hwilde> cl0s, umm just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and it will only display one kernel :)
[15:45] <amenado> grolem-> what happens when you used the nm dial up?
[15:45] <Kinetic> stoneDJay apci turned off in the bios?
[15:45] <kaje1> Can someone recommend a good irc server that comes packaged for ubuntu?
[15:45] <cl0s> but wont the other one still be there? lol
[15:46] <hwilde> kaje1, search in synaptic
[15:46] <komputes> who knows how to download the entire repository pool ~40GB of debian packages in repository format i.e. /pool/a/blabla
[15:46] <amenado> kaje1-> if you dont get an answer, you proly have to google for ubuntu+ircd
[15:46] <hwilde> cl0s, there is some dpkg command to clean out the old kernels
[15:46] <cl0s> sorry if it sounds dumb, i really dont know
[15:46] <cl0s> ok thanks..
[15:46] <^Tech-Help^> Is there  a way to change my font in firefox 3.0b5?
[15:46] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: in the bios... I need to set this in the BIOS? or turn of with pnpbios=off in menu.list (GRUB)?
[15:47] <dadan> sorry i don't want to bother anybody, and i'm a newby but i have this problem: ﻿my 2 bars (the one from the top and the bottom one)from gnome have disappeared what can i do?
[15:47] <Kinetic> stoneDJay pnpbios is something different
[15:47] <DNC_005> oh, it seems it something to do with xp and removeable media thing
[15:47] <kaje1> hwilde: there are several options in synaptic... I was hoping someone could give me a nudge in the direction of the preferred one...
[15:47] <cellofellow> There, fixed it. Why in the world would GNOMEs printing system not work with the Raw driver?
[15:47] <Kinetic> stoneDJay check the bios and see if apci is turned on
[15:47] <hwilde> dadan, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel    then   sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[15:47] <hwilde> kaje1, the ones that have version number with ubuntu in the name are supported
[15:47] <cgentry72> can someone help me fix a problem? I have a usb flash drive and when I plug it in it never shows up.  However, if I boot with it plugged in, it does.
[15:47] <dadan> thx hwilde
[15:47] <Wobe> stoneDJay: install powertop and see if that can detect anything running, also intsall the laptop package vis synaptic
[15:47] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: ok... I will try ...thanks...
[15:47] <cellofellow> dadan: or sudo aptitude reinstall gnome-panel
[15:47] <^Tech-Help^> Is there  a way to change my font in firefox 3.0b5?
[15:48] <hwilde> cgentry72, what if you plug in a different usb device, does it recognize it plugnplay ?
[15:48] <DNC_005> ah wait if i mark the removeable media as non removeable media to get extra partitions to work then how will i force xp to sync before removal :(
[15:48] <hwilde> ^Tech-Help^, look through the preferences it's in the menu
[15:48] <DNC_005> i'll try asking in windows
[15:48] <cgentry72> hwilde, no it doesn't :(
[15:48] <stoneDJay> Wobe: I will try it also
[15:48] <cgentry72> hwilde, the mouse does the same thing
[15:48] <Travo> Hello Guy's... I am having problems booting normally into my ubuntu linux, with any of the kernels, worked fine the other day. I have a paste bin of the error...
[15:48] <Travo> http://pastebin.com/m306b747a
[15:48] <hwilde> cgentry72, did you disable the usb hotplug support ?
[15:48] <eracc> dadan, I would try to help with that but my 15 year old Gnome expert (my son) is not here right now. I'm a fluxbox guy. ;D
[15:49] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to set up a VPN connection via the command line?
[15:49] <cgentry72> hwilde, not that I am aware of
[15:49] <^Tech-Help^> hwilde ok i just didnt know if it was a system font or firefox font that was causing the issues of blurry fonts
[15:49] <hdschardt> Ex-Chat
[15:49] <Rafase282> hello
[15:49] <cgentry72> hwilde, i didn't know I could or know how to disable hotplugging
[15:50] <odinsbane> does anybody else find that the repositories are very slow today?
[15:50] <jescis> does the lacale settings have to do with my console fonts?
[15:50] <maszl1> I seem to be having some problems connecting to some repos today.. is something going on?
[15:50] <maszl1> lol guess so
[15:50] <dan1> hey
[15:50] <Wobe> ok so i'm not alone. good
[15:50] <DNC_005> i think i need to flip the Removable Bit
[15:50] <joaopinto> maszl1, yes, most of them are overloaded
[15:51] <Rafase282> hello, i need help with a virtual machine on virtualbox
[15:51] <maszl1> I was unable to ping the server so I was wondering if it was something else
[15:51] <dan1> was just wondering if anyone else was having problems getting the sound to work. my sound card is xtreme fidelity by creative and i can't seem to get it to pick up.
[15:51] <Travo> Could someone assist me with my box not booting, here is the error: http://pastebin.com/m306b747a
[15:51] <raket> :)
[15:51] <eracc> AngryElf, setup of Linux VPN is non-trivial. After messing with it I chose to use Linksys small business routers for that. If you are needing it for a roaming laptop that is quite non-trivial to get working.
[15:51] <danbhfive> are there any commands that can help debug strange sound output?
[15:51] <dadan> it doesn' work the reinstalling of gnome-panel
[15:52] <maszl1> you know its great that these servers are overloaded.  makes me happy to wait actually lol
[15:52] <Repp> I used "sudo apt-get update" to nab Wine onto a little micro-laptop and I'm finding that some of the packages are failing on transfer with a connection timed out error. I've rerun "sudo apt-get update" a few times hoping it would just sort of work, but it keeps failing on some packages. Is there any good way around this? I'd even settle for a bad way around it.
[15:52] <volksman> can anyone tell me how to get the mount point of a share mounted using "Connect to Server"
[15:52] <MOras> at last my ubuntu works !
[15:52] <eracc> AngryElf, however, if you really need it of Linux I am looking up the resources I used ...
[15:52] <djhash> Travo: is this from a clean install or upgrade?
[15:52] <hwilde> cgentry72,    ps -ef | grep hald          is the process  hald-addon-storage   running?
[15:52] <AngryElf> eracc: well, is doing it through the GUI less trivial?
[15:53] <volksman> Repp:  Go to software sources and select "Other" there is a way to find the fastest mirror
[15:53] <starcannon> I installed an ubuntu lamp server and an openssh server, can anyone point me at some project resource guides/pages/tutorials that could help me figure out how to make it go? this is educational and will never be a "live" server and I'm a complete noob
[15:53] <MOras> great ! that's a change.
[15:53] <Travo> djhash, i have upgraded the kernel once, but it was a month since I ran updates.
[15:53] <odinsbane> Repp you might have to download them yourself. or possibly change the location of your repos....they appear to be overloaded.
[15:53] <Travo> djhash, and upgraded the kernel
[15:53] <joaopinto> starcannon, define "make it go", didn't you installed it already ?
[15:53] <Travo> djhash, I am booting into the live cd right now
[15:53] <dan1> o.0
[15:53] <Rafase282> can anyone help me?
[15:53] <snowblink> volksman, mount or cat /etc/mtab
[15:53] <Repp> thank you
[15:53] <cgentry72> hwilde, root      5561  5457  0 May06 ?        00:00:07 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec)
[15:53] <hwilde> !lamp | starcannon
[15:53] <dadan> can anyone halp me by make reappear the gnome panels in 8.04?
[15:54] <eatatjoes> i was wondering if someone could tell me how to compile the .tar.gz for vmware?
[15:54] <volksman> snowblink: neither show the mount when it is connected using the GUI
[15:54] <starcannon> joaopinto yeah sorry bad choice of words on my part, it is up and running, no errors, just need some noob project guides to get rolling
[15:54] <hwilde> cgentry72, disconnect and reconnect the usb drive, and then type "dmesg"   is it recognized at the bottom?
[15:54] <hwilde> dadan, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel    then   sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[15:54] <dadan> i tryed reinstalling gnome-panel but it doesn-t resolve the problem
[15:55] <djhash> Travo: how about a clean re-install?
[15:55] <cgentry72> hwilde, no
[15:55] <starcannon> hwilde aye thanks, i had that part, I'm needing some noob projects to work on to get me learning what to do with it now that I've got it :)
[15:55] <MrBill> If I have a 64bit version of Ubuntu installed, I have to take note when installing other packages and programs to ensure that they support 64bit, correct?
[15:55] <cgentry72> hwilde, last entry is ext3
[15:55] <hwilde> cgentry72, that is very odd.. the process that should detect it must not be running
[15:55] <Travo> djhash, a clean reinstall? Format?
[15:55] <maszl1> we got a quad core poweredge, im super excited to get this thing rolling.. need to have this be a success to get these people off the micro$oft high horse
[15:55] <hwilde> dadan, can you make a new user and see if they have the panel ?
[15:56] <ikonia> maszl1: it's called microsoft, please show it the respet it's due
[15:56] <eracc> AngryElf, heh, I only used the command line so I have no idea about GUI setup of VPN. ;)
[15:56] <hwilde> ikonia, respet   lol
[15:56] <joaopinto> eatatjoes, sine you are too lazy to google I did it for you: http://rmbernardes.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/install-vmware-server-105-on-ubuntu-804-%E2%80%9Chardy%E2%80%9D/
[15:56] <cgentry72> hwilde, :( i wonder why it works if i plug it in before i start my computer it works
[15:56] <joaopinto> since
[15:56] <AngryElf> eracc: the GUI seemed pretty non-trivial :)
[15:56] <cgentry72> hwilde, same with the mouse
[15:56] <AngryElf> might wanna try it out
[15:56] <hwilde> cgentry72, on boot it is scanning for the usb, but then while you're running the hotplug does not detect it.
[15:56] <beniamino> how can i add a 3-rd party application to the main menu?
[15:56] <djhash> Travo: you can re-install without formatting.
[15:56] <dan1> brb
[15:56] <cgentry72> hwilde, oic
[15:57] <Travo> so I need to sudo aptitude upgrade ?
[15:57] <joaopinto> beniamino, right clik on the apps menu, Edit Menu
[15:57] <dadan> hwilde: i have changed the repositories maybe this is the problem, i get this message: E: Package gnome-panel has no installation candidate
[15:57] <starcannon> hiya ikonia didn't see you there, you got any noob project links for me to start getting my hands dirty with? I got the server up and running, now what to do what to do...
[15:57] <DNC_005> ok i made a logical partition and deleted the primary
[15:57] <DNC_005> oh wait
[15:57] <DNC_005> ah
[15:57] <eatatjoes> joaopinto, thanks but thats for hardy and thats what i had tried
[15:57] <beniamino> joaopinto: thanks
[15:57] <eracc> AngryElf, I'm still looking for that information I had. I thought I kept the URLs but they are not in my bookmarks. :/
[15:57] <joaopinto> starcannon, google.com: php mysql tutorial
[15:57] <AlphaOmega> lol
[15:57] <djhash> Travo: actually.. try fixing grub.. it might've got messed up on the upgrade
[15:57] <ikonia> starcannon: remember the webserver project I suggested as a learning tool. You'll find all kinds of guides on https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <joaopinto> eatatjoes, I am assuming you are using hardy, anyway that is a general procedure, it should work
[15:58] <MOras> do you know any good download manager for linux
[15:58] <hwilde> dadan, yep.  fix your repos
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> whos genius idea was it to make firefox 3 beta 5 the default on ubuntu 8.04?
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> nice
[15:58] <hwilde> !find gnome-panel | dadan
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> also massive internittent audio problems when firefox 3 beta 5 is running
[15:58] <joaopinto> AlphaOmega, do you need support ? This is not a complains channel...
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> jesus f ing christ
[15:58] <remoteCTRL> hi guys! for the last two or three days my hdd keeps ratteling and ratteling like something is accessing like wild, i already uninstalled beagled and trackerd as those dont work anyways but its keeps on... what could be accessing my hdds?
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> i shouldhave never upgraded
[15:58] <cgentry72> hwilde, is there a way to scan for it without rebooting
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> no, im bitching
[15:58] <starcannon> ikonia aye, i'll poke around some more, not being lazy i promise :) i'm a googlin lil noob, got the dual boot all setup with heavy doses of google :)
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> thats what irc is for
[15:58] <joaopinto> AlphaOmega, install the firefox-2 package, it is available
[15:58] <hwilde> !offtopic | AlphaOmega
[15:58] <hwilde> !language |  AlphaOmega
[15:58] <dadan> how do you edit the repositories without a giu?
[15:58] <joaopinto> !ot | AlphaOmega
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> well, seriously
[15:58] <dadan> gui
[15:58] <dare> is possable to add exceptions for some theme, eg I dont want that my current dark theme apply eg to openOffice and Limewire?
[15:58] <AlphaOmega> thats not how you release open source in the 2000s
[15:59] <hwilde> dadan, /etc/apt/sources.lst
[15:59] <dadan> thx
[15:59] <exco> hello
[15:59] <volksman> AlphaOmega: would you have prefered FF2 for the next 5 years?
[15:59] <RyanPrior> I password protected my bootloader, but it won't let me boot at all without putting in the password. Is that normal? I just wanted to require a password to do anything other than the default boot option.
[15:59] <delta___> AlphaOmega: I really appreaciated the move to FF3. It's faster, more stable and offers more features
[15:59] <Travo> djhash, how do I safely fix grub, any resources, links. I'm a real nOOb to this linux stuff. Another Linux guru told me I needed to change my OS by partition instead of the UUID. Any truth to that?
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> volksman: i would have preferred my computer to work
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> now it doesnt, your point?
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> you like regression>?
[15:59] <ikonia> AlphaOmega: we can help you with support
[15:59] <hydrogen> AlphaOmega: install opera, and all will be good with the world
[15:59] <hwilde> !fixgrub | Travo
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> youre a regressionist i take it
[15:59] <joaopinto> AlphaOmega, I do not have issues with sound on ff3, it maybe something specific to your configuration, or to the technology of the particular site your are using, if its a flash powered site then you would be better complaining to adobe
[15:59] <ikonia> AlphaOmega: if you do'nt want tsupport please take this to an off-topic channe please.
[15:59] <RyanPrior> AlphaOmega: FF3 works great. Some folks have problems, but those will only get fewer with time.
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> hydrogen: i think i will
[15:59] <hydrogen> AlphaOmega: real men understood that a long time ago
[15:59] <AlphaOmega> thanks
[15:59] <volksman> AlphaOmega: mine works great...no issues with 8.04 that I didn't have with 7.10
[15:59] <remoteCTRL> load average: 0.62, 0.85, 0.73 although nothing is running, how can i determine what is causing this?
[16:00] <jescis> does the locale settings have to do with my console fonts?
[16:00] <AlphaOmega> im on intel toshiba laptop
[16:00] <silverblade> anyone else ahving problems reaching security.ubuntu.com ?
[16:00] <hwilde> remoteCTRL, type in "top"
[16:00] <AlphaOmega> dual core
[16:00] <joaopinto> silverblade, yes, I do
[16:00] <exco> is there a file "/etc/host" ? (not hosts, hosts.conf ...)
[16:00] <remoteCTRL> hwilde: no results with top, cpu usage like 0,5%
[16:00] <maszl1> what options do I have for a virtualization server?
[16:00] <joaopinto> exco, no
[16:00] <dare> ﻿remoteCTRL, use system monitor and cick show all process
[16:00] <agro1986> help: what is the equivalent of window's "device manager" in hardy heron?
[16:00] <hwilde> remoteCTRL, top shows you the programs that are running.   hit M to sort by memory, then hit < to sort by cpu column
[16:00] <usser> !virtualization
[16:00] <Travo> hwilde, I didn't install windows on this box, it is straight linux. It actually happened when I booted and it didn't mount the file system for a long time, it just sat there, and I just killed the system, it never came back up after that. All i did was add a pci-card.
[16:01] <djhash> Travo: there is no difference.. your problem seems to be in the fact that some command is not set right to mount the drive which makes it unable to find files it needs
[16:01] <exco> joaopinto: thank you (got lucky!)
[16:01] <RyanPrior> agro1986: What does the device manager do?
[16:01] <RyanPrior> agro1986: Some of us don't use Windows. :-)
[16:01] <eracc> AngryElf, ok, here is one of the documents I studied: http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geultZwiFIyLYAqANrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=130juq96n/EXP=1210258393/**http%3a//port25.technet.com/videos/research/Linux-VPN-Analysis-Howto_final.pdf (note the source! :D )
[16:01] <agro1986> RyanPrior: a graphical user interface that lists all installed hardware
[16:01] <danis> back
[16:01] <hwilde> agro1986, System -> Preferences - > Hardware Info
[16:01] <remoteCTRL> hwilde: dare: something is violating my hdds is there any command to see what accesses the hdd like lsof -i for networks?
[16:01] <delta___> agro1986: Does it need to be graphical? lshw dows this just fine on the console
[16:01] <aaroncampbell_> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio, I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[16:01] <RyanPrior> agro1986: I know there's a graphical one, but I forget what it is right now.
[16:02] <cgentry72> hwilde, i'm back sorry
[16:02] <MrBill> How often does the update manager check for new updates?
[16:02] <dbmoodb> hi a how do i reconfigure x.org -- given the new structure of it - i need to change my graphics from being intel to be i810 so it doesn't crash on me
[16:02] <danis> so can anyone help me with my soundcard issues? :/
[16:02] <danbhfive> aaroncampbell_: random guess, but try installing sun-java
[16:02] <agro1986> hwilde: there's no such menu entry... what's the command name?
[16:02] <joaopinto> agro1986, you can install hardinfo for a hardware info
[16:02] <agro1986> helta___: ok i'll try lshw too
[16:02] <hwilde> agro1986, System -> Preferences - > Hardware Info
[16:02] <hwilde> !sound | danis
[16:02] <eracc> AngryElf, here is the other: http://www.ipsec-howto.org/
[16:02] <dare> ﻿remoteCTRL, i dont know try to suspicios proces to click open files... really I dont know
[16:02] <hwilde> remoteCTRL, ps waux    then look at the cpu column
[16:02] <dbmoodb> this is really lame
[16:02] <soundray> MrBill: look in System-Administration-Software Sources-Updates
[16:02] <agro1986> hwilde: what's the command name? i don't find such entry
[16:03] <ikonia> dbmoodb: whats up ?
[16:03] <joaopinto> agro1986, please note that this tools are for browse only, they don't provide a config interface
[16:03] <MrBill> thanks soundray
[16:03] <RyanPrior> hwilde: What package provides the Hardware Info menu item?
[16:03] <dbmoodb> i want to change hardy using intel to be using i810
[16:03] <agro1986> joaoptinto: thanks for the package name
[16:03] <delta___> I've got a problem: Every time I insert a USB thumbdrive or a USB digicam, the device gets mounted and nautilus/f-spot runs. I tried turning this off in gnome-volume-properties, but the problem persists...
[16:03] <danis> is there a list for compatible sound cards somewhere there?
[16:03] <dbmoodb> the experimental intel one just crashes it
[16:03] <chaapp> #ubuntu-de
[16:03] <remoteCTRL> hwilde: umm once again the problem is not cpu but hdd, there is no cpu activity but loads of hdd activity..
[16:03] <ikonia> dbmoodb: ok, so whats the problem changing it
[16:03] <ikonia> ?
[16:03] <danis> i read a few places that mine might not be compatible.
[16:03] <mathieu__> !
[16:03] <dbmoodb> how do i do that from the command line ?
[16:03] <kahrytan> Ryan52,  you have to install one.
[16:04] <dbmoodb> if there is no way i will not use this thing sorry --- i need an in that will work if my x fails
[16:04] <eracc> AngryElf, there are also documents from Cisco that tell how to get VPN working with their VPN routers. But if you don't need Cisco specific information those won't help.
[16:04] <ikonia> dbmoodb: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, there is a line that shows "Device" for your video card. Add the line / change the line Driver "intel" to Driver "i810" then restart X
[16:04] <hwilde> RyanPrior, hardinfo, hwinfo     do you know about "aptitude search"
[16:04] <dbmoodb> there isn't ikonia this is hardy
[16:04] <dare> remoteCTRL, maybe it is swap?
[16:04] <ikonia> dbmoodb: there is
[16:04] <dare> ﻿is possable to add exceptions for some theme, eg I dont want that my current dark theme apply eg to openOffice and Limewire?
[16:04] <Travo> djhash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I get to setup(hd0) in grub and Error: 17 Cannot mount selected partition
[16:04] <ikonia> dbmoodb: re-read what I've said
[16:05] <danbhfive> anyone know how to debug sound problems?
[16:05] <krupa^> hey , anyone knows how to solve it? net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/disk/www as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own. (im trying to share folder )
[16:05] <dbmoodb> that doesn't exist
[16:05] <ikonia> dbmoodb: I said "add it"
[16:05] <djhash> Travo: can you pastebin "more /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[16:05] <RyanPrior> hwilde: No need to be snippy. "hardinfo" and "hwinfo" aren't necessarily easy to guess.
[16:05] <dbmoodb> there is Section "Device"
[16:05] <dbmoodb>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[16:05] <dbmoodb>  if you sa. oh just add ?
[16:05] <ikonia> dbmoodb: re-read what I said
[16:05] <dbmoodb> sorry for the pasty
[16:05] <remoteCTRL> dare: naaaw i don't think so, 2gig ram here and it is really nonstop like a beagled gone wild or so
[16:05] <Travo> wait wait I think I got it
[16:06] <hwilde> RyanPrior,   aptitude search info | grep hardware
[16:06] <maszl1> it is possible to to use a 'player' and remotely run a virtualized pc from the server.. correct?
[16:06] <Darre1> anyone using an Epson CX9475 ???
[16:06] <dbmoodb> dude you said change it there isn't 'intel' to be altered
[16:06] <Travo> djhash, let me paste bin it for you to double check
[16:06] <kahrytan> Ryan52,   You could do hardware info in synaptic too.
[16:06] <ikonia> dbmoodb: I didn't I said "add/change it"
[16:06] <dbmoodb> ..... oh
[16:06] <ikonia> dbmoodb: if you can't be bothered to read the help your asking for when I've said 3 times "re-read it" your not going to get very far
[16:06] <dbmoodb> just drive = i810 ?
[16:06] <eracc> AngryElf, oh, and good luck dude. :)
[16:06] <dbmoodb> i did read it
[16:06] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: dude... my BIOS does not have ACPI option to setup...
[16:06] <ikonia> dbmoodb: `NO !
[16:06] <ikonia> dbmoodb: Driver "i810"
[16:07] <ikonia> dbmoodb: it's clear your not reading it
[16:07] <djhash> Travo: is that what you did? install windows after you installed ubuntu?
[16:07] <beniamino> is it just me, or is the path bar in launcher -> properties -> icon completely broken?
[16:07] <hwilde> stoneDJay, set acpi=off in the grub menu...
[16:07] <Travo> djhash, No I did not install windows
[16:07] <usser> maszl1, i think you need something like vmware-server for that
[16:07] <Kinetic>  stoneDJay wow, how old of a laptop?
[16:07] <hwilde> Travo, follow the links from ubotu
[16:07] <hwilde> !fixgrub | Travo
[16:07] <dbmoodb> Driver "i810" ?
[16:07] <dbmoodb> i am reading it
[16:07] <Darre1> Epson Printing anyone? i'm thinking about getting a CX9475, and wondering if anyone has similar working
[16:07] <usser> maszl1, its able to connect to remote vmware installations
[16:07] <dbmoodb> then i restart x
[16:08] <hwilde> !enter | dbmoodb
[16:08] <ikonia> dbmoodb: ok, it's clear your not. I'm going to bow out at this point
[16:08] <cgentry72> hwilde, you there?
[16:08] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: a year only...
[16:08] <hwilde> cgentry72, go
[16:08] <francis> How to I automate AT commands to my modem. I am trying to send myself alerts from my GMS modem . Anyone ??
[16:08] <maszl1> vmware is a licenced copy that I would need?
[16:08] <hwilde> stoneDJay, Kinetic, you can set acpi=off in the grub menu...
[16:08] <dbmoodb> sorry ikonia i don't know what you are on about there is nothing to alter from intel to i810 and there is no driver in there yet  so i will play with it
[16:08] <cgentry72> hwilde, is there a way to scan for it (like it does when it boots) I just hate having to restart just to find it
[16:08] <odinsbane> I have a bunch of pdf files that I want to sort via a data base.  Is there a good sqllite front end for that?
[16:08] <krupa^> help?
[16:08] <ikonia> dbmoodb: I said "ADD" the line !
[16:08] <Deepthought> is it normal for nvidia binary driver to disappear after kernel update (´official´ update in Hardy from .16 to.17) ?
[16:08] <stoneDJay> hwilde: Whats happen with power management in Ubuntu with acpi off at boot?
[16:09] <Kinetic> hwilde he's having problems with it not scaling down
[16:09] <hwilde> cgentry72, try running sudo udevtrigger
[16:09] <ikonia> dbmoodb: what part of "add the line" am I not making clear to you ?
[16:09] <krupa^> hey , anyone knows how to solve it? net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /media/disk/www as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own. (im trying to share folder )
[16:09] <cgentry72> hwilde, ok
[16:09] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: if you compiled it yourself yes
[16:09] <Kl4m> Ubuntu 8.04 STILL kills a laptop hard drive!
[16:09] <dbmoodb> the part where you didn't say that the first time
[16:09] <dbmoodb> so far as i know
[16:09] <cgentry72> hwilde, nothing happend
[16:09] <dbmoodb> but i will
[16:09] <ikonia> dbmoodb: RE-READ IT
[16:09] <dbmoodb> thank you
[16:09] <dbmoodb> i did ikonia
[16:09] <FloodBot3> dbmoodb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <ikonia> dbmoodb: I said it in the first line, I then said it 2 more times
[16:09] <dbmoodb> 5 times now
[16:09] <ikonia> dbmoodb: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, there is a line that shows "Device" for your video card. Add the line / change the line Driver "intel" to Driver "i810" then restart X
[16:09] <ikonia> dbmoodb: that is the exact line
[16:09]  * soundray laughs at dbmoodb
[16:10] <remoteCTRL> Kl4m: not only laptop as it seems my hdd has been ralle and hum for 4 days now
[16:10] <Travo> djhash, This is what the terminal spat out: http://www.pastebin.com/m121b00e2
[16:10] <dbmoodb> oh ... i see
[16:10] <soundray> How can you re-read and not see what he said
[16:10] <eracc> Darre1, I have helped several folk locally get Epson printers working. I recommend using the Avasys drivers: http://avasys.jp/hp/menu000000500/hpg000000442.htm
[16:10] <dbmoodb> missed that i expect intel ... ah
[16:10] <ikonia> so you where not reading it
[16:10] <ikonia> despite me asking you 3 times
[16:10] <danis> im going through the troubleshoot to detect the soundcard on my comp, but im not sure if its reading it or not. all i know is my soundcard is called xtreme fidelity and is made by creative.. o.0
[16:10] <dbmoodb> but here is no line intel --- just note that
[16:10] <stoneDJay> hwilde: Whats happen with power management in Ubuntu with acpi off at boot?
[16:10] <djhash> Travo: check your link..
[16:10] <Kl4m> The hard drive is turned off and on and off and on, ALL THE TIME
[16:10] <dbmoodb> thank you
[16:11] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: nope, did not; it was in the scheduled updates,   But it´s using normal driver now, and if I start hardware driver manager for restricted it doesn´ t show up, not even un-activated
[16:11] <ikonia> Kl4m: as in power saving ?
[16:11] <dbmoodb> Kl4m: sudo apt-get install smartmonutils
[16:11] <eracc> Darre1, if your printer model does not show up there then you should look for a 'slightly' older model.
[16:11] <Travo> djhash, http://pastebin.com/m121b00e2
[16:11] <dbmoodb> then apt-get install sdparm hdparm .... try hdparm -B 254 /dev/sdX or /dev/hdX depding on a sata or ide drive
[16:11] <eracc> Darre1, they usually have new drivers there a couple of months after they release a new printer.
[16:11] <soundray> dbmoodb: do you mean smartmontools?
[16:12] <dbmoodb> close enough soundray
[16:12] <ikonia> dbmoodb: all drives are /dev/sd$ now
[16:12] <dbmoodb> ...and that is because ?
[16:12] <ikonia> because libata changed about a year ago
[16:12] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: no that is not common, as said if you dont manually compile the driver it should be ported with kernel updates
[16:12] <dbmoodb> try telling that to debian lenny
[16:12] <djhash> Travo: try rebooting
[16:12] <Travo> djhash, alright
[16:12] <dbmoodb> which uses libata from less than a year ago ... i thinks
[16:12] <soundray> dbmoodb: lenny is irrelevant in this channel
[16:12] <dbmoodb> me i will try this
[16:12] <Kl4m> dbmoodb: I already did watch -n 1 hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda, every second because it would switch back
[16:13] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: could it have something to do with adding medibuntu repos to the software sources ?
[16:13] <dbmoodb> oh it is switching back ?
[16:13] <babolat> hi
[16:13] <dbmoodb> yikes ?
[16:13] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: as in getting a newer kernel than hardy would normally use, or something ?
[16:13] <danis> Sound Blaster X-Fi       emu20k1      [Unsupported] [PCI] Card delivered to developers. Completely new architecture. Creative have supplied a data sheet to developers. Development work has started.
[16:13] <danis> i just found that..
[16:14] <danis> does anyone know how long that takes generally? :/
[16:14] <CelsoLeite> Hello!
[16:14] <Tu13es> can i turn my unencrypted ubuntu partition into an encrypted TrueCrypt partition without data loss?
[16:14] <ihtspam> Hi everyone. I have looked everywhere for an answer to this.  I am using Hardy. The only package I have in the canonical repository is opera. Is this correct? I am looking for parallels. Thanks in advance
[16:14] <starcannon> AlphaOmega you can go here http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ and get FF2 and just run it from a folder in your /home/AlphaOmega directory until FF3 comes of age, I had to use an older version of firefox for a website that was required for one of my school classes, thats how I did it, I still have the folder here in my /home just in case I ever need it again, its simple and painless :)
[16:14] <Danie1> What driver should I install? (ubuntu 7.10) I have Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[16:14] <aaroncampbell_> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio, I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[16:14] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: i cannot tell with certainty but that would of course be a possibility
[16:14] <CelsoLeite> Can someone give me some help?
[16:14] <djhash> !ask
[16:14] <Travo> djhash, same error
[16:14] <aaroncampbell_> And yes, I have sun-java-6 installed
[16:14] <RyanPrior> ihtspam: Unless you want Parallells particularly, I suggest using VirtualBox.
[16:14] <starcannon> oops just realized i responded to a very old post sorry for that, gotta get some contrast on that scroll bar
[16:14] <Kl4m> This is not power saving, the hard drive is switching off and back on about every 5 seconds
[16:15] <ikonia> Kl4m: hardware issue then
[16:15] <soundray> starcannon: it's bad advice, too
[16:15] <remoteCTRL> ﻿Tu13es: if you backup that data before encrypting yes, otherwise no
[16:15] <babolat> ihtspam, do u have universe and multiverse enabled?
[16:15] <Kl4m> ikonia: oh please. It's been a known problem for years
[16:15] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: : Whats happen with power management in Ubuntu with acpi off at boot?
[16:15] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: if I remove that source again, and rerun updates, would stuff from that repos be removed again ?  guess not huh ?   So is there a way to undo my last updates so I can try again without those repos ?
[16:15] <francis> How to I automate AT commands to my modem. I am trying to send myself alerts from my GMS modem . Anyone ??
[16:15] <krupa^> ?
[16:15] <krupa^> help?
[16:15] <djhash> Travo: can you "more /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[16:15] <starcannon> soundray : thats a subjective opinion :)
[16:15] <Kinetic> stoneDJay turns pm off
[16:15] <ihtspam> RyanPrior: I want to install EAC, it doesn't work on Virtualbox, which is a shame as I like VBox.
[16:16] <ikonia> Kl4m: really, could you expand on that please.
[16:16] <Kl4m> search google for "ubuntu kills hd"
[16:16] <Travo> djhash, in the busybox prompt?
[16:16] <soundray> starcannon: it's widely accepted here that you shouldn't bypass the package manager if an Ubuntu package is available for something, e.g. firefox-2
[16:16] <CelsoLeite> !ask how do i install d-link dwa110 USB adapter?
[16:16] <mipstien> after upgrading to 8.04 i can't get nvidia drivers working correctly
[16:16] <ikonia> Kl4m: oh that old laptop issue
[16:16] <RyanPrior> ihtspam: Well, I don't even see Opera in my third-party repository, and I think I have all the repositories enabled.
[16:16] <djhash> Travo: forget that.. i'm losing my mind..
[16:17] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: downgrade is of course not automatic, you would need to remove the newer kernel version manually, but what you also can do is download and compile a driver into your newer kernel version and then not download kernel images until hardy catches up
[16:17] <Deepthought> mipstien: remoteCTRL , see, I have that same problem !
[16:17] <djhash> Travo: in busybox type cd /dev/disk/by-uuid
[16:17] <volksman> mipstien: install the envy package and let it install nvidia drivers
[16:17] <djhash> then type ls -al
[16:17] <kahrytan> remoteCTRL,  it's better to download it from Opera.com
[16:17] <RyanPrior> !envy | volksman
[16:17] <mipstien> already tried envy
[16:17] <Travo> djhash, returns nothing
[16:17] <CelsoLeite> I need some help!
[16:17] <mipstien> envyng
[16:17] <ihtspam> babolat: Yeah, have universe and multiverse enabled. When I look at packages available in the canonical repository, only opera is there.
[16:17] <ikonia> Kl4m: would it be fair to say your seeing this behaviour in hardy
[16:17] <hoonteke> hrm, is there no gimpshop in the ubuntu/debian archives?
[16:17] <djhash> Travo: type ls -al
[16:17] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: its not good... :/
[16:17] <Jezz> hi i have a WUBI ubuntu install and yesterday i booted it for the first time and updated it. Today i tried to boot it but i the only thing i get is busybox
[16:17] <Jezz> with initramfs command?
[16:17] <Travo> djhash, got something, what am I looking for
[16:17] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: did you see mipstien is having same issue ?
[16:17] <volksman> RyanPrior: sorry...envyNG!
[16:17] <remoteCTRL> ﻿kahrytan: download what specifically and why?
[16:18] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: i was just trying to read up what he wrote, yes...
[16:18] <kahrytan> remoteCTRL,  Opera does debian packages for Ubuntu. And you can stay more up to date.
[16:18] <djhash> Travo: do you get a "c0d55429-c43b-4c5c-86d4-dfde0ee1146a"
[16:18] <RyanPrior> Jezz: I've had the same thing, and I think it has something to do with a flag that Windows sets on NTFS when it wants to do repairs or something.
[16:18] <babolat> ihtspam, neither can i and i have them on too.. odd
[16:18] <volksman> mipstien: what did it do?  did it install the driver?
[16:18] <sabrina85> hi folks :)
[16:18] <Jezz> ryan, did you manage to solve it?
[16:18] <RyanPrior> Jezz: Try starting up Windows, then shutting down cleanly, then booting into Ubuntu again.
[16:18] <cgentry72> hwilde, no luck
[16:18] <kahrytan> remoteCTRL,  They have Opera beta available for download. it is stable from what i can tell.
[16:18] <sabrina85> how can I run apache's a2enmod ? it seems unavailable for me :(
[16:18] <Jezz> ok
[16:18] <mipstien> volksman it installs all the drivers but i keep comming up with the low res screen
[16:18] <Travo> djhash, yes it is listed as ../../dha5
[16:18] <Kl4m> ikonia: I have a laptop that's doing the same thing right here, with a fresh hardy install via wubi
[16:18] <daveyboy27> Right
[16:18] <dbmoodb> it didn't work and now i have scrollkeeper-up at 52% cpu so i have 100% cpu usage
[16:19] <Danie2> hi
[16:19] <daveyboy27> i need some help guys
[16:19] <Travo> *hda5
[16:19] <remoteCTRL> kahrytan: i am actually fine with teh original repos;) exept for my hdds still rattling like hell
[16:19] <daveyboy27> with java on ubuntu gutsy 7.10
[16:19] <volksman> Jezz:  didn't read the whole thread but if Windows wants to chkdsk it will make it REALLY hard to mount under linux
[16:19] <mipstien> volksman: nvidia settings aren't working either
[16:19] <kahrytan> remoteCTRL,  maxtor/
[16:19] <danis> how long does development usually take?
[16:19] <kahrytan> remoteCTRL,  maxtor?
[16:19] <remoteCTRL> guys pls tell me why my hdds are rattling like crazy
[16:19] <daveyboy27> how do i get runescape working it keeps saying " error loading applet"?
[16:19] <volksman> mipstien: what card?
[16:19] <djhash> Travo: how many hard drives and partitions do you have?
[16:19] <RyanPrior> volksman: How do you make Windows get its chkdsk over with?
[16:19] <remoteCTRL> kahrytan: nope 2x seagate barracuda and 4x samsung
[16:19] <mipstien> volksman nvidia 6600gt
[16:19] <candrews> is there a problem with http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/
[16:19] <soundray> Kl4m: read this creditable entry about this issue: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77672.html
[16:19] <candrews> I'm only getting at most 1k/s
[16:19] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: anyway, compiling the kernel with the driver would of course be an option, but before I get into big-time study sessions like that (I´ m working on my own flavour), I would like to know what caused the problem in the first place, because aas I´ ve always understood updates are not supposed to break the system; so I want the setting that f***d  my rig gone... ya see ?
[16:20] <ikonia> Kl4m: I thought the bug had been removed a while ago, clearly not
[16:20] <candrews> And I'm fine to all other servers.
[16:20] <Travo> djhash, one hard drive, one cd-rom, and a floppy
[16:20] <volksman> RyanPrior: unfortunately boot windows and run ckdsk
[16:20] <Kl4m> remote: maybe this is a scrollkeeper update
[16:20] <ikonia> Deepthought: get a grip on the language please.
[16:20] <sabrina85> anyone using apache2 here?
[16:20] <daveyboy27> Guys
[16:20] <dbmoodb> yes why ?
[16:20] <bazhang> !ohmy | Deepthought
[16:20] <daveyboy27> I NEED HELP!
[16:20] <RyanPrior> volksman: ckdsk, or chkdsk?
[16:20] <volksman> mipstien: hrm...should work fine...did you try to use the "manual" method and use an older driver?
[16:20] <jrib> !anyone | sabrina85
[16:20] <Kl4m> soundray, ikonia: I've read all about it. I just can't believe it's still a problem
[16:20] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: you get a misconception there buddy;)
[16:20] <ikonia> daveyboy27: calm down, people will get to you
[16:20] <djhash> !ask
[16:20] <Deepthought> ikonia: sorry, guess stars hold no secrets to you guyz/girlz   ... apologies
[16:20] <sabrina85> dbmoodb: i can't find a2enmod :(
[16:20] <babolat> daveyboy27, what gives
[16:20] <volksman> RyanPrior: been a while but I'm pretty sure its chkdsk
[16:20] <sabrina85> which packages holds it?
[16:20] <ikonia> Deepthought: appriciated
[16:20] <mipstien> volksman i have but it keeps doin the same thing :\
[16:20] <babolat> daveyboy27, and pls dont shout
[16:21] <soundray> Kl4m: well, if you read this one carefully, you will understand that it's not Ubuntu's problem
[16:21] <ikonia> soundray: its the old kernel issue I thought had been removed around .18
[16:21] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: what misconception ?
[16:21] <ikonia> or maybe even earlier
[16:21] <volksman> mipstien: hrm...weird...envyNg has been great to me....can you try again and check to ensure that /etc/X11/xorg.conf actually gets updated?
[16:21] <quartsize> Regarding gvfs-fuse-daemon: does it make sense for it to be mounted on /root/.gvfs? I have another system where it mounts to my home directory, and that kinda bothers me.
[16:21] <RyanPrior> Kl4m: It's not Ubuntu's problem, it's the hardware manufacturers' for setting bad defaults. Windows ignores manufacturers' defaults, which is a bug in Windows.
[16:21] <Kl4m> soundray: oh but it is. letting the hardware handle power management is stupid. Even Windows doesn't do it
[16:22] <sabrina85> anyone? :(
[16:22] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: if you keep on updating your original hardy image this wont happen, only if you upgrade to something that will not support certain parts of the existing kernel, like upgrading a kernel with nvidia drivers to one that hasnt got the perrequisited dependencies, in that case nvidia will be gone afterwards
[16:22] <djhash> Travo: is there a 72e8937b-87f6-4d16-a548-77363af791af
[16:22] <soundray> sabrina85: apache2.2-common contains a2enmod
[16:22] <Travo> djhash, yes
[16:22] <jrib> sabrina85: did you install apache2 through the repositories?
[16:22] <Travo> djhash, listed as ../../hda1
[16:22] <kami> hav a break, have a kitkat
[16:22] <daveyboy27> babolat, my java and runescape wont work
[16:22] <soundray> Kl4m: this has ceased to be a support topic. Take it elsewhere please.
[16:22] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: bell is ringing but don´ t quite get it yet  :P
[16:23] <djhash> Travo: are you sure the error is still exactly the same?
[16:23] <sabrina85> jrib: yes, that's what i did
[16:23] <kami> i like to shit everywhere i can
[16:23] <babolat> daveyboy27, more info would help.. what errors do u get, and how do u get them?
[16:23] <ikonia> Kl4m: ther eis a luanchpad bug for it, and also a kernel bug  (that I thought was closed) you may want to find them and update them
[16:23] <kami> dontcha?
[16:23] <soundray> !ops | kami
[16:23] <cgentry72> could someone please guide me on how to get my usb flash drive. it works when i boot my computer but not just plugging it in.
[16:23] <RyanPrior> Kl4m: Who are the Ubuntu devs to override what the manufacturer suggests to be a good power setting? The ability is there for you to override the power settings, but Ubuntu doesn't do it by default, and probably never will. My suggestion: get better hardware, or fiddle with the power settings manually.
[16:23] <Travo> djhash, verbatium
[16:23] <Kl4m> RyanPrior, soundray: It would probably be smart if Ubuntu wasn't writing on the disk every 5 seconds. ok, I'll take this nowhere else.
[16:23] <daveyboy27> baboblat i get "error loading applet" when i try to load up runescape
[16:23] <TheCompWiz> anyone know anything about nautilus script?
[16:23] <TheCompWiz> *scripts?
[16:23] <echogen> hi all
[16:23] <Danie3>                                           What driver should I install ? (ubuntu 7.10 ) I have nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[16:23] <Kl4m> Better hardware hah
[16:24] <ikonia> Kl4m: the launchpad bug and kernel bug would be a key place to update
[16:24] <dbmoodb> soundray: but debian... oh nevermind i'm switching back this was a failure i still can't close my laptop's lid, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work like it should --- yes i did come around to your instructions, laptop mode is being stupid and running away with it . sorry but hardy needs kicking --- have to reinstall lenny now. Some one please email me when these issues are fixed
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang :)
[16:24] <dbmoodb> sorry for being a pain
[16:24] <stoneDJay> I have some information on files at /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/... how could I put this in a desktop applet... I cant see any applet to show me thermal informations in my Ubuntu
[16:24] <bazhang> oops :)
[16:24] <RyanPrior> TheCompWiz: I didn't know Nautilus had special scripts. Are you talking about BASH scripts?
[16:24] <stoneDJay> ?
[16:24] <mastranzio> can anyone help me about my audio card???
[16:24] <danis> ?
[16:24] <jrib> sabrina85: pastebin: dpkg -l '*apache*'
[16:24] <echogen> i downloaded ubuntu 8.04 desktop i386 edition and burned it, but when i try to boot it on my laptop, i just get the welcome screen, but whenever i choose any option other then booting from the first hard disk... it just hang on... is anyone having this problem or just me
[16:24] <RyanPrior> !anyone | mastranzio
[16:24] <Deepthought> Danie3: use nv legacy or nvidia restricted legacy (the ´old´  driver)
[16:24] <daveyboy27> babolat, is there a way we can chat privately without so many people?
[16:25] <kahrytan> Ryan52, http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=188&PHPSESSID=2dd8ec9f1373dda64a254a5751fb5132
[16:25] <TheCompWiz> RyanPrior: ... yes, I know they're just bash scripts... but I've run into a problem that's driving me nuts.
[16:25] <remoteCTRL> ﻿Deepthought: goggle for compiling kernel man its too substantial to spam it in here;)
[16:25] <Leftmost> Is it possible to get Java 1.4 and xulrunner to get along without breaking the software index? I have yet to have a crash problem and I absolutely need Java 1.4 and don't want to have an old, possibly insecure version of xulrunner installed.
[16:25] <kahrytan> Ryan52, nautilus scripts.
[16:25] <RyanPrior> echogen: How are you sure it's hanging?
[16:25] <spyd3r_> i have choppy video after 8.04 upgrade
[16:25] <spyd3r_> can anyone help?
[16:25] <fde> echogen: What kind of computer?
[16:25] <mastranzio> RyanPrior: why with ubuntu 7.10 my audio card was ok and with 8.04 no???
[16:25] <RyanPrior> kahrytan: I think perhaps your tab-completion is causing you to type somebody else's name?
[16:25] <echogen> Ryan52: the computer stops responding, and i get nothing even after 10 minutes
[16:25] <Deepthought> remoteCTRL: will do, thanx for getting me on track thoguh !
[16:25] <fde> echogen: CPU/RAM? The LiveCD isn't great for low end computers.
[16:25] <Deepthought> thoug
[16:25] <Deepthought> though
[16:26] <kahrytan> Ryan52,  doh.
[16:26] <Deepthought> !ohmy
[16:26] <kahrytan> RyanPrior,  that was meant foryou
[16:26] <stoneDJay> Kinetic: I have some information on files at /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/... how could I put this in a desktop applet?... I cant see any applet to show me thermal informations in my Ubuntu
[16:26] <babolat> daveyboy27, which java plugins do u have?
[16:26] <TheCompWiz> RyanPrior: the biggest problem I keep running into... is the inability to pipe something to a file...   i.e. echo "blah" >/tmp/something.txt
[16:26] <echogen> fde: it is a fujitsu siemens core2duo 1.6 1GB RAM
[16:26] <RyanPrior> mastranzio: Did you upgrade or do a fresh install?
[16:26] <remoteCTRL> Deepthought: at your service!
[16:26] <Deepthought> d...
[16:26] <TheCompWiz> RyanPrior: for whatever reason, it just skips over that line.
[16:26] <Xcell> mastranzio:  it will most likely be repaired within about 60 days.. be patient
[16:26] <cgentry72> could someone please guide me on how to get my usb flash drive. it works when i boot my computer but not just plugging it in.
[16:26] <fde> echogen: Then you shouldn't be having such issues... hmm
[16:26] <runa_> hi how can i download only all the packages involved in dist-upgrade?
[16:26] <daveyboy27> baboblat, can we chat in private too many people chating make it hard to
[16:26] <daveyboy27> read
[16:26] <echogen> i even tried them on my friend's new HP laptop, same issue
[16:26] <MrObvious> !information synce-kpm
[16:27] <mastranzio> RyanPrior: fresh install
[16:27] <MrObvious> !info synce-kpm
[16:27] <djhash> Travo: load into the LiveCD.. try changing the booting from uuid to using hdas
[16:27] <echogen> i tried to burn the CD another time, same also
[16:27] <runa_> apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade?
[16:27] <echogen> do u think my burner is incompatible with the
[16:27] <babolat> daveyboy27, join #babolat
[16:27] <RyanPrior> !audio | mastranzio
[16:27] <echogen> do u think my burning is incompatible with the image file ?
[16:27] <soundray> echogen: maybe the image was bad. Have you tried the Check CD option from the boot menu?
[16:27] <Travo> djhash, booting into it now, how will I change the UUID to the partitions once i am in?
[16:27] <quartsize> daveyboy27, try /query babolat
[16:28] <fde> echogen: If it booted anything on the LiveCD, then it's not.
[16:28] <Danie5> bad network
[16:28] <echogen> yes ... it hangs too
[16:28] <quartsize> daveyboy27, and then sending him some messages.
[16:28] <echogen> fde: yes it hangs too
[16:28] <Danie5>                                           What driver should I install ? (ubuntu 7.10 ) I have nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[16:29] <echogen> i can't wait to install ubuntu 8.04 :S
[16:29] <echogen> after long hours of download, i got problems hm
[16:29] <Xcell> Danie5:  use envy
[16:29] <fde> echogen: You can try a 'alternate' install CD... no LiveCD session, but it'll get you installed... in text mode.
[16:29] <soundray> echogen: can you do an md5 check on the .iso file?
[16:29] <erty> I'm trying to set up a MythTV box on a new system which has only 1 SATA hdd, install goes okay, but then grub hangs
[16:29] <soundray> !md5 | echogen
[16:30] <echogen> slj D0c5i5
[16:30] <MOras> Is it possible to control the fan I am working on a laptop and I am not used to hearing it
[16:30] <echogen> soundray: i MD5 it .. it gave me the correct hash
[16:30] <cgentry72> could someone please guide me on how to get my usb flash drive. it works when i boot my computer but not just plugging it in.
[16:31] <echogen> fde: i come from a slackware background, i am kind of familiar with text based installation, but the problem is with low speed internet connection
[16:31] <Travo> djhash, booted into LiveCD
[16:31] <kantor> hi, I just installed Ubuntu 8.04, I created a user (with which I installed the OS) but I want to restrict some privileges  like denying to modify the users and groups, the clock . . . so only the root user could modify that, how is that possible. I played a little with the authorizations program, but with no result
[16:32] <bazhang> kantor, you checked policykit?
[16:32] <echogen> the thing is that sometime, it just gives me a white progess bar when loading linux, and it hangs there
[16:32] <djhash> Travo: get into terminal
[16:32] <hwilde> kantor, only admin can do those things.
[16:32] <Travo> djhash, there
[16:32] <QuickGold> how do I search inside files in a specified directory for a set of text?
[16:32] <kleedrac_work> Anyone know of any virtualization software that allows the Guest OS access to 3D acceleration?
[16:32] <hwilde> QuickGold, man grep
[16:32] <kantor> bazhang: I don't know how to remove my normal user from there :(
[16:32] <fde> QuickGold: find
[16:32] <ejer> kantor: remove unprivileged users from the admin group in users and groups
[16:32] <soundray> fde: no
[16:32] <echogen> so can anyone give me some ideas ?
[16:33] <djhash> travo: ok.. first you need to mount the drive...
[16:33] <bazhang> kleedrac_work, parallels might do basic 3d
[16:33] <joaopinto> QuickGold, grep -r "text" directory/*
[16:33] <soundray> echogen: have you got any other machine where you could try to boot the CD?
[16:33] <CelsoLeite> I need some help? Someone?
[16:33] <ejer> kleedrac_work: vmware beta supposedly does this better
[16:33] <echogen> yes... an HP laptop... with same results
[16:33] <kantor> ejer: it's just annoying for me to see that a normal user can modify such things (like the users and groups . . .)
[16:33] <QuickGold> joaopinto: thank you
[16:33] <kantor> ok
[16:33] <kleedrac_work> bazhang: I thought parallels was Mac only ... I tried Virtualbox and the guest OS ran beautifully but no 3D
[16:33] <kleedrac_work> ejer: thanks I'll give that a shot :)
[16:33] <ejer> kantor: they only can if they are in admin group
[16:34] <gordonjcp> !ask | CelsoLeite
[16:34] <soundray> echogen: and could you use the HP to burn the image again (in case the problem is with the burner)?
[16:34] <melter> if i start an app from the command line, is there a way to tell gnome to display it on a specific workspace?
[16:34] <Travo> djhash, the command to type?
[16:34] <djhash> Travo: type "ls /dev/hda*
[16:34] <kantor> ejer:  yes I removed, it works thanks ;-)
[16:35] <echogen> soundray: if i access the CD i burned from windows, it gives me no error at all i can browse it normally
[16:35] <quartsize> Is it okay if gvfs-fuse-daemon is mounted on /root/.gvfs? I ask because I have another system which only mounts it to my home directory, and this puzzles me.
[16:35] <Travo> djhash, /dev/hda /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 /dev/hda5
[16:35] <djhash> Travo: i assume that ubuntu was installed on the first partition of the drive..
[16:36] <Travo> djhash, more than likely so.
[16:36] <stbain> echogen: you may be running  into some of the same problems I'm having with regards to older model CD-ROM drives, ACPI, and DMA. There are some ide=nodma and noacpi options you can pass to the install CD's kernel, but your results may vary. I'm actually in a datacenter right now installing Ubuntu Server 6.x just so I can get Ubuntu on the system to upgrade it to 8.04.
[16:36] <djhash> Travo: ok.. first "mkdir /mnt/the_drive"
[16:36] <ejer> melter: you can do this in KDE, I don't think so in gnome, or I can't find it
[16:36] <melter> ejer, ok, thanks
[16:37] <Travo> djhash, done
[16:37] <ejer> melter: you may be able to save session and have them reopen on correct desktops
[16:37] <soundray> stbain: echogen has a fairly recent machine -- I don't think it's that
[16:37] <stbain> soundray: kk
[16:37] <melter> ejer, isn't that done automatically when i log out?
[16:37] <djhash> Travo: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive"
[16:37] <AGA> hi
[16:37] <AGA> all
[16:38] <soundray> echogen: you might want to have a look at the install page (factoid coming) and try one of the alternatives to booting from a physical CD
[16:38] <soundray> !install | echogen
[16:38] <ejer> melter: only if you choose so... system>prefs>sessions
[16:38] <ljsoftnet> ubuntu is open source, where is the source code, i don't see it
[16:38] <soundray> ljsoftnet: it's in the repositories.
[16:38] <ryukun> :)
[16:39] <melter> ejer, thanks! that's a better solution then what i was trying to do
[16:39] <ljsoftnet> soundray how can i see the code?
[16:39] <ejer> np melter
[16:39] <ejer> ljsoftnet: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/source/
[16:39] <agro1986> test
[16:40] <ljsoftnet> ejer ok
[16:40] <Travo> djhash: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[16:40] <agro1986> help: i installed "samba" to share my files to other windows user. how do I change my workgroup name?
[16:41] <Naitsirk> Hiya
[16:41] <Xcell> hi
[16:41] <ejer> agro1986: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:41] <djhash> Travo: try "sudo -t ext3 mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive"
[16:42] <djhash> Travo: sorry
[16:42] <djhash> Travo: try "sudo mount -t ext3_fs /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive"
[16:42] <echogen2> sorry disconnected
[16:42] <ejer> ﻿Travo: try "sudo mount﻿ -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive"
[16:42] <ejer> ext_fs won't work i don't think
[16:42] <echogen2> soundray: if i access the CD i burned from windows, it gives me no error at all i can browse it normally
[16:42] <soundray> echogen: you might want to have a look at the install page (factoid coming) and try one of the alternatives to booting from a physical CD
[16:43] <agro1986> ejer: thanks
[16:43] <soundray> !install | echogen2
[16:43] <djhash> ejer: thanks...
[16:43] <echogen2> hm thanks soundray
[16:43] <KenSentMe> My numpad isn't responding anymore since i upgraded to Hardy. Any idea how to get the keys working again? (i checked the numlock key)
[16:43] <undecim> Hey, everyone... My samba admin crashes every time I open it. I think it may be because I'm running amd64. Has anyone else had (or better yet, fixed) this problem? If not, are there any alternatives other than just manually editing my smb.conf file?
[16:43] <Travo> djhash, spat out a bunch of stuff, pastebin: http://www.pastebin.com/m338c8678
[16:44] <agro1986> help: how to enable desktop cube?
[16:44] <danbhfive> KenSentMe: I had a similar problem.  fixed with a clean install
[16:44] <danbhfive> agro1986: install ccsm
[16:44] <agro1986> danbhfive: thanks
[16:44] <ejer> KenSentMe: you could try changing your keyboard layout in system>prefs
[16:44] <KenSentMe> danbhfive, thanks, but i would like to see some other fix
[16:44] <danbhfive> KenSentMe: you would think that, but upgrades always suck
[16:44] <djhash> Travo: getting unknown post ID!!
[16:45] <Travo> djhash: http://pastebin.com/m338c8678 (took out www)
[16:45] <KenSentMe> danbhfive, that's your experience, mine is different, apart from this issue
[16:45] <ejer> u typed something wrong Travo
[16:45] <ejer> upgrades work great as long as u follow instructions
[16:46] <neil_d> I added a applet to the panel, now it wont let me remove it, is there a way to do this via a terminal ?
[16:46] <KenSentMe> ejer, tried, but doesnt fix the problem
[16:46] <hwilde> neil_d, unlock the panel then you can remove it
[16:46] <djhash> Travo:as ejer said.. something was typed wrong...
[16:46] <Travo> djhash, double checking
[16:46] <Error4o4> Cant boot live or install to hard drive. Always getting the EasyBox prompt. Any idea? (plz dont tell me to burn cd at slower speed :)
[16:46] <_phil> does Ubuntu by default use Intel Speedstep?
[16:46] <CelsoLeite> Hello! I need some help! The problem is loadndisdriver: loadndisdriver: load_driver(358): couldn't load driver dr71wu.
[16:46] <ejer> Travo: when u paste, include the line u typed as well
[16:47] <ejer> KenSentMe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[16:47] <neil_d> hwilde: I don't think it is 'locked' how can I check ?
[16:47] <hwilde> neil_d, right click on it, unlock, then remove the applet
[16:47] <ejer> _phil: yes
[16:47] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> hello, I have a patch for Compiz-Fusion
[16:47] <KenSentMe> ejer, my numlock is on (the light is), it's just the keys that dont work
[16:47] <Travo> djhash & ejer: I have typed both "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive" &  "sudo mount -t ext3_fs /dev/hda1 /mnt/the_drive"
[16:47] <hwilde> !sru | Cheesasaurus_Rex
[16:48] <neil_d> hwilde: I get no menu :( unlike all the other applets that do show a menu
[16:48] <ejer> KenSentMe: sounds like keyboard layout is wrong, have u tried a generic one
[16:48] <Etenil> salut salut
[16:48] <hwilde> neil_d, no rightclick on the panel somewhere and unlock the panel itself, then remove the applet
[16:48] <hwilde> !fr | Etenil
[16:48] <Etenil> erf mistake sorry evbdy
[16:48] <KenSentMe> ejer, yeah, it's generic
[16:48] <xintron> I'm following this guide ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224349&highlight=Acer+wireless+switch ) and when typing "echo "enabled: 1">/proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[16:48] <ejer> KenSentMe: can u find the right model?
[16:49] <KenSentMe> ejer, not the exact model, but it should work with generic, it used to work in gutsy
[16:49] <ejer> hwilde: i don't think you can lock whole panel this way, only applets
[16:49] <MrObvious> !flash
[16:49] <ejer> KenSentMe: of no consequence, stuff changed, try another model!
[16:49] <xintron> I'm following this guide ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224349&highlight=Acer+wireless+switch ) and when typing "echo "enabled: 1">/proc/acpi/acer/wireless" I get this error: bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument. What's wrong?
[16:49] <neil_d> hwilde: I see no lock or unlock option when I right click on a blank part of the panel
[16:49] <djhash> Travo: type "ls /mnt" can you see "the_drive" in there?
[16:49] <Travo> djhash, had a typo in one, fixed it, but it spat out another list of info, another one just returned mount: unknown filesystem type ext3_fs
[16:50] <Travo> djhash, yes
[16:50] <KenSentMe> ejer, i already checked other models, same problem
[16:50] <t4g> anyone here is having issues with thinkpad's ultrabay hotswap on hardy?
[16:50] <ejer> Travo: correct command would be 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk'
[16:50] <djhash> Travo: try "ls /mnt/the_drive"
[16:51] <Travo> djhash, returns nothing
[16:51] <hwilde> Travo, that is good.
[16:51] <Travo> ejer, that returned mount: mount point /mnt/disk does not exist
[16:51] <ejer> KenSentMe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/197771 look at post 2
[16:51] <meeper> what's the best ftp server for ubuntu7?
[16:51] <hwilde> meeper, proftpd
[16:51] <ejer> Travo: i am sorry,use the path you were previously using, or else create that directory
[16:52] <meeper> hwilde: thanks
[16:52] <xintron> I can't write to the file "/proc/acpi/acer/wireless". Does anyone have any clue why?
[16:52] <KenSentMe> ejer, that was it, thanks
[16:52] <hwilde> xintron, are you out of diskspace
[16:52] <ejer> np KenSentMe
[16:52] <xintron> hwilde: no. I'm trying to add "enable: 1" to that file but it won't work
[16:52] <ejer> xintron: the command looks weird with all those quotes...
[16:53] <djhash> Travo: pastebin the another list of info...
[16:53] <xintron> ejer: echo "enabled: 1">/proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[16:53] <jbroome__> xintron: using sudo?
[16:53] <xintron> jbroome__: yes
[16:53] <xintron> I get this error:  write error: Invalid argument
[16:53] <ejer> xintron: try ﻿echo "enabled: 1" > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless and you probably have to be root
[16:53] <Travo> djhash, it is the wrong fs type as mentioned earlier
[16:54] <ejer> xintron: notice in that forum post he did 'su' first
[16:55] <xintron> ejer: ah
[16:55] <djhash> Travo: you tried two.... one with ext3_fs which gave you unknown fs type.. the other one gave you wrong fs type?
[16:55] <agro1986> help: ok, i installed ccsm and set it up. now when I switch desktop the effect is "cube". but how do I manually play around with the cube using my mouse?
[16:55] <genii> xintron: echo "enabled:1" | sudo tee -a /proc/acpi/acer/wireless
[16:55] <xintron> ejer: I still get the same error
[16:55] <hwilde> djhash, ext3_fs is not a valid option, it's just ext3
[16:55] <ejer> agro1986: use scroll wheel on desktop or ctrl-alt-arrows
[16:55] <Travo> djhash, correct... Also i ran dmesg | tail it is listed on this pastebin http://pastebin.com/m132c41c8
[16:55] <ejer> xintron: did you do the chmod 777 ?
[16:55] <fahadsadah> agro1986: Ctrl+Alt+LeftMouseButton and move the mouse around
[16:55] <ejer> xintron: without error
[16:56] <xintron> ejer: yes, that worked without error
[16:56] <xintron> genii: gave the same error
[16:56] <agro1986> thanks for all the cube!!!
[16:56] <fahadsadah> You're welcome!
[16:56] <djhash> hwilde: i am aware of that.. please dont come in the middle of the conversation with an unrelated answer..
[16:56] <hwilde> !attitude | djhash
[16:56] <xintron> ejer: I tried to edit the file with vim, but it wouldn't let me save
[16:57] <ejer> xintron: are you SURE you are root?
[16:57] <xintron> ejer: Yes, I'm root
[16:57] <TheCompWiz> this stupid thing is driving me nuts.
[16:57] <xintron> ejer: "wireless" E667: Fsync failed
[16:57] <djhash> hwilde: lol..
[16:57] <fahadsadah> Root as in sudo -s, rather than just sudo?
[16:57] <Xcell> whats that TheCompWiz
[16:58] <ejer> xintron: does the file contain anything? (cat /proc....)
[16:58] <TheCompWiz> making a nautilus script... but can't find the variable with the file-name in it.
[16:58] <dug_> I installed ubuntu hardy, but the login window keeps reappearing, anyone know about this issue?
[16:58] <djhash> Travo: try ext2 instead of ext3
[16:58] <xintron> ejer: 0
[16:58] <TheCompWiz> tried $@ $1 $*... nothing works.
[16:58] <xintron> ejer: it contains zero
[16:58] <Travo> djhash, same error
[16:58] <arakthor> Does the cron daemon run in ubuntu server edition in the default run level?
[16:58] <hwilde> TheCompWiz, what are you trying to do
[16:58] <ejer> xintron: try ﻿echo 1 > /proc/acpi/acer/wireless and you probably have to be root
[16:59] <xintron> ejer: worked
[16:59] <ejer> yay
[16:59] <ejer> they must have changed format
[16:59] <ejer> arakthor: yes
[16:59] <kristofe1> Is there a restriction on file size when it comes to the ubuntu log in sound?  I made a wav file to replace the default one and it won't play during log in.  Any ideas?
[16:59] <xintron> ejer: I thought so too, and tried to change it to "1" using vim, but still error, but now it worked, thanks ejer
[16:59] <redtonia> can i upgrade from the iso?
[16:59] <ejer> xintron: i think you have to use echo
[17:00] <TheCompWiz> ah... I needed "NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_URIS"
[17:00] <bazhang> redtonia, from the alt cd yes
[17:00] <Xcell> !caps
[17:00] <xintron> ejer: probably
[17:00] <redtonia> alt cd?
[17:00] <redtonia> sorry
[17:00] <djhash> Travo: do you remember how you installed your previous option?!!
[17:00] <ejer> Xcell: jeez, it is a variable that is spelled in caps, chill out
[17:00] <djhash> Travo: do you remember how you installed your previous version?!!
[17:00] <Xcell> ok sry
[17:01] <Travo> djhash: not really
[17:01] <xintron> ejer: However, it still didn't return anything with "dmesg | grep acer_acpi" which it should
[17:01] <kristofe1> can someone help me?
[17:01] <bazhang> !alternate | redtonia
[17:01] <Travo> djhash: I thought it was ext2 or ext3, whatever the live cd told me was best
[17:01] <dimedo> i just tried out devilspie on my Gnome desktop with compiz. Somehow i'm unable to use the pin feature and to set apps to viewport 1. the other viewports can be used without problem. any ideas?
[17:01] <evand> Kl4m: Regarding your Wubi problem.  Does booting Windows and running chkdsk /R /F then rebooting Windows twice, and finally booting Ubuntu again fix it?
[17:01] <Travo> djhash: me thinking out loud here, but could it possibly be hda5?
[17:02] <agro1986> help: how do I load only up to bash (e.g., no X) from the live CD?
[17:02] <donak> tell us the problem kristofe1
[17:02] <meeper> hmm, proftpd requires mysql? that's kind of insane
[17:02] <redtonia> okay thx ubottu :)
[17:02] <kristofe1> ﻿s there a restriction on file size when it comes to the ubuntu log in sound?  I made a wav file to replace the default one and it won't play during log in.  Any ideas?
[17:02] <djhash> Travo: nothing to lose... give it a try
[17:02] <ejer> meeper: you could use sftp, you only need to install ssh, and it is more secure
[17:02] <fahadsadah> meeper: No it isn't really. Where do you want the accounts to be stored?
[17:03] <donak> a wav file is a Windows Audio file ... the original would have been some other format?
[17:03] <Travo> djhash: so what is the list of commands I need to run again?
[17:03] <ApOgEE-> hi, i just upgrade to hardy but i can't boot... it stuck at b43legacy-phy0:Broadcom 4301 WLAN found... seems like forever. how to fix this?
[17:03] <cl0s> isn't ubuntu suppost to activate the cube effect put the Visual Effects on Extra?
[17:03] <beniamino> is there any way to debug launchers? log output? i've made one, and the program fails to run
[17:03] <dimedo> kristofe1: maybe the user who logs in has no access permission on the sound file?
[17:03] <Kl4m> evand: wrong nick?
[17:03] <djhash> Travo: try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /mnt/the_drive"
[17:03] <cl0s> wobbly windows is working, before I couldn't use any effects because of the video card..
[17:04] <kristofe1> dimedo: how do i change that?
[17:04] <dug_> I installed ubuntu hardy, but the login window keeps reappearing, anyone know about this issue?
[17:04] <kristofe1> i can play the file fine when i'm logged in
[17:04] <kristofe1> just not through sound preferences
[17:04] <dimedo> kristofe1: where did you put the file? (path)
[17:04] <MCCloak> what does it mean icedtea-java 7?
[17:04] <meeper> ejer: vista can't map remote sftp drives I don't think :/
[17:04] <kristofe1> /usr/share/sounds
[17:04] <ApOgEE-> hi, i just upgrade to hardy but i can't boot... it stuck at b43legacy-phy0:Broadcom 4301 WLAN found... seems like forever. how to fix this?
[17:04] <Travo> okay, hda, hda5 is already mounted.
[17:04] <ejer> meeper: would not be surprised! lol
[17:04] <meeper> fahadsadah: well it's too late now, proftpd already went through all the trouble of installing a bunch of mysql packages
[17:04] <Travo> djhash: hda1 & hda2 are not mounting, will not mount to ext2 or ext3
[17:04] <Jezz> 2 problems
[17:05] <dimedo> kristofe1: if you can play them elsewhere, this seems not to be the problem
[17:05] <Jezz> i lost my trash can :o
[17:05] <Jezz> tried to add it to a panel but i cant see it
[17:05] <Jezz> >.<
[17:05] <MCCloak> what is icedtea-java7? is it original from sun?
[17:05] <dimedo> kristofe1: did you try some other sound files?
[17:05] <fahadsadah> meeper: You could get rid of them, but apt would remove proftpd too due to unmet dependencies
[17:05] <kristofe1> the default sound files work
[17:05] <evand> Kl4m: "11:18:57 < Kl4m> ikonia: I have a laptop that's doing the same thing right here, with a fresh hardy install via wubi"
[17:05] <kristofe1> just not the custom wav file i made
[17:05] <kristofe1> the only restriction it says is that it must be a wav file
[17:06] <kristofe1> the wav file plays manually but not when i test in sound preferences or when i log in if it is selected as the login sound
[17:06] <ejer> meeper: there is also vsftpd which some like
[17:06] <djhash> Travo: lets see if ubuntu can figure how to mount it..
[17:06] <aaroncampbell_> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio, I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces.  I have sun-java-6 installed
[17:06] <dug_> I login, the screen goes black after a few seconds, and then the login window reappears.  Is there anyway to find out what happened?
[17:06] <djhash> Travo: exit out of terminal and into the LiveCD desktop
[17:06] <Kl4m> evand: that was related to the power management "bug"
[17:06] <Wolfen> hi there, i'm sure you get asked stuff all the time (and i know thats why you're here) but i need a little assistance getting my wireless card working.  Could anyone assist with my request?
[17:06] <arakthor> ejer: thanks
[17:06] <ejer> dug_: your session is stopping for some reason
[17:07] <MrObvious> !ask | Wolfen
[17:07] <Jezz> how do i get the trash can back?
[17:07] <dimedo> kristofe1: try the command "aplay /usr/share/sounds/yourfile.wav"
[17:07] <Travo> djhash, ok, done
[17:07] <MrObvious> Who messed with ubotu? lol
[17:07] <jrib> Jezz: back where?
[17:07] <ejer> dug_: you could look in cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:07] <djhash> Travo: Click on Place->Computer
[17:07] <djhash> places*
[17:07] <dug_> thanks ejer
[17:07] <Jezz> eh lol i tried to add it to a panel but it wont display
[17:07] <narothepharoh> #Kubuntu
[17:07] <Jezz> is there a way i can get it to the desktop?
[17:07] <evand> Kl4m: power management bug?  Do you have a bug number?
[17:07] <Wolfen> alrighty then,  i just installed last night, have a broadcom wireless card in a dell...  seems to be installed but says network disabled.  how do i get it enabled?
[17:08] <jrib> !icons > jezz (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:08] <Jezz> ok
[17:08] <kristofe1> that command works fine
[17:08] <Jezz> thnx
[17:08] <dimedo> kristofe1: thats strange
[17:08] <jrib> Jezz: also, try again.  Adding it to your panel should work
[17:08] <djhash> Travo: go into Filesystem, then dev and find hda1 and hda2
[17:09] <ejer> Jezz: open terminal, type gconf-editor, go to apps>nautilus>desktop, check applicable checkbox
[17:09] <dimedo> kristofe1: you should indeed try a shorter file which you produced in the same way as the files which currently refuse to work
[17:09] <Jezz> ah
[17:09] <MrObvious> Wolfen: What Dell model and which Broadcom card? You can check by doing the following command in a terminal: lspci | grep BCM
[17:09] <Jezz> jrib: it should work but it doesnt :s
[17:09] <hwilde> !broadcom | Wolfen
[17:09] <kristofe1> its only 5 megs compared to the 1.3 megs of the regular login.wav
[17:09] <narothepharoh> how do i install mp3 for k3b?
[17:09] <dimedo> i just tried out devilspie on my Gnome desktop with compiz. Somehow i'm unable to use the pin feature and to set apps to viewport 1. the other viewports can be used without problem. any ideas?
[17:09] <bitchompR> Is there a way that I can get my 6 in 1 card reader to work? It doesn't detect my SD card.
[17:09] <kristofe1> same sample rate and bits etc
[17:10] <Travo> djhash: I see four drives. One of them being the unmounted 26.4 GB drive I want
[17:10] <ejer> kristofe1: that is large....
[17:10] <Travo> djhash: I found the two files
[17:10] <jrib> Jezz: does the icon show up on your panel and then the trash does not open when you click on it?  Or does the icon not even show up on your panel?
[17:10] <Jezz> right i got it on the desk
[17:10] <Wolfen> Broadcom Corp BCM4312
[17:10] <Jezz> the icon doesnt show up
[17:10] <Jezz> but on the desktop it opens
[17:11] <Danie2>                                           What driver should I install ? (ubuntu 7.10 ) I have nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[17:11] <Konam> there's an editor that I forgot itd download page. I think its called 'genie' or something like that. can someone point me to its home page, can't find it in synaptic
[17:11] <Konam> ?
[17:11] <Kl4m> evand: very highly subscribed bug @ launchpad: 59695
[17:11] <jrib> Jezz: add it again somewhere else on the panel, try making room for it maybe
[17:11] <Jezz> ok
[17:11] <narothepharoh> how do i install mp3 for k3b?
[17:11] <djhash> Travo: the four drives you saw were they listed in Places? or in Computer.. before you went into Filesystem?
[17:11] <ejer> Konam: http://www.code-genie.com/ ?
[17:12] <Jezz> still doesnt work, on both panels wont show up
[17:12] <dimedo> kristofe1: the other thing i could think about would be that your wav files contain data encoded with an audio coder which can't be decoded by the player which is used by the login application
[17:12] <Jezz> but oh well i got it on the desktop now
[17:12] <Jezz> maybe i need to reboot 0_0
[17:12] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to share a internet connection? i have networked 2 computers with a cross wire????
[17:12] <Jezz> oh and can i turn off the beep ubuntu sends to my mobo?
[17:12] <Wolfen> card is not picking up any wireless networks.
[17:12] <Travo> djhash: My Computer window
[17:12] <Jezz> it doesnt do that on windows so its from ubuntu right
[17:12] <kristofe1> but its a 16 bit wav file at 44100 Hz
[17:13] <kristofe1> same as all the others
[17:13] <Travo> djhash: I have a flobby drive, cd-rom drive, 26.4 GB Volume, and Filesystem
[17:13] <ejer> Jezz: system>prefs>sound
[17:13] <Jezz> kay
[17:13] <CelsoLeite> D-link dwa110 USB adapter, how can i istall?
[17:13] <ejer> narothepharoh: i think sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[17:13] <Danie2>     HELP      What driver should I install ? (ubuntu 7.10 ) I have nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000
[17:13] <djhash> Travo:.. ok.. right click on the drive and click mount
[17:13] <Jezz> and last question, what video driver do i need, is the restricted driver fine?
[17:14] <Konam> ejer the one I'm talking about its free
[17:14] <ejer> Danie2: use the restricted driver manager in administration
[17:14] <kristofe1> can i set that as a script or something. to automatically run the command aplay /usr/share/sounds/file.wav when i login?
[17:14] <ejer> Konam: free as in beer or speech??
[17:14] <dimedo> kristofe1: there can be different codecs in wav container such as PCM, GSM, ADPCM, ...
[17:14] <Jezz> because it looks blurry at 1280 with 75hz refresh rate and it limits the refresh rate on higher resolutions
[17:14] <soundray> indian_munnda: one way is to install firestarter on the machine from which you want to share the connection. It has a sharing option in the setup
[17:14] <Danie2> Don't work
[17:14] <Travo> djhash: Unable to mount the volume, ugh
[17:14] <Jezz> stressing for my eyes
[17:14] <MrObvious> !opensync
[17:14] <Konam> ejer FLOSS
[17:14] <kristofe1> dimedo: is that possible?
[17:15] <ejer> Konam: mp3 is not a free format
[17:15] <Jezz> oh and just curios, is it possible to have diffirent wallpapers on diffirent workspaces?
[17:15] <Konam> ejer I'm talking about the IDE
[17:15] <jrib> Jezz: sure.  What window manager do you use?
[17:15] <Konam> ejer or text editor, whatever
[17:15] <evand> Kl4m: thanks
[17:16] <ejer> Konam: huh? i thought we were talking about k3b?
[17:16] <indian_munnda> soundray: i have connected the 1 computer and 1 laptop with a cross wired. Computer is having 2 lancards and internet connection.but the internet is not working on the laptop. How to do that????
[17:16] <ejer> Konam: my mistake
[17:16] <ejer> Konam: lol I mixed you up with someone else sorry
[17:16] <thinkmassive> I would like to get my tablet working in 8.04 but I don't see anything wacom-related in xorg.conf, and the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is minimal in the new X
[17:17] <Smackdown> go to channel #root for roots password
[17:17] <soundray> indian_munnda: install firestarter on the desktop and configure it for connection sharing
[17:17] <ejer> Konam: there are TONS of free text editors
[17:17] <genii> indian_munnda: There is a very good tutorial for that here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[17:17] <newbieee> plz help кто настраивал сеть между двух убунт с расшариванием папок и общим интернетом ?
[17:17] <agro1986> ﻿ help: how do I load only up to bash (e.g., no X) from the live CD?
[17:17] <ejer> thinkmassive: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[17:17] <odinsbane> Is there a quick way to remove open office?
[17:18] <bitchompR> Can someone offer advice on how I can get my SD card reader to work?
[17:18] <ejer> agro1986: type f6 at bootup for options, add the word single to end... should work, otherwise, just boot up then shutdown gdm if you wish
[17:18] <Jezz> so how do i install nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[17:18] <djhash> Travo: back to terminal then type "mount" then type "fdisk -l" <-small L  then type "cat /etc/fstab" and pastebin everything...
[17:18] <kristofe1> dimedo: did i lose you?
[17:18] <narothepharoh> ejer: is is now libk3b2-extracodecs thanks though
[17:18] <djhash> Travo: make sure you put "sudo " before every command
[17:18] <ejer> odinsbane: search for it in synaptic and select for removal, but may remove other packages you want...
[17:19] <agro1986> ejer: I always used "shutdown gdm" method... but it's such a pain on 128 mb system... thanks for the "single" tip
[17:19] <soundray> agro1986: edit the kernel line (I think you have to hit F6 at boot) and add 'single' at the end
[17:19] <agro1986> soundray: thanks a lot
[17:19] <ata4ix> anybody knows why when i try to update reps udner my ubuntu 8.04 i get some error with a message: error: http://www.virtualbox.org gutsy Release: Следующие подписи не могут быть проверены, так как недоступен общий ключ: NO_PUBKEY 30EC3FF9247CC473
[17:19] <Travo> djhash, sudo mount, then sudo fdisk -l then sudo cat /etc/fstab
[17:19] <ejer> agro1986: there are better livecds for small mem systems, like puppy or DSL
[17:19] <djhash> Travo: yes
[17:19] <soundray> agro1986: beaten badly by ejer ;_
[17:19] <staar2> hi
[17:20] <beniamino> anyone know why it takes me >10 seconds to open all 'save file' dialogs in gnome?
[17:20] <staar2> some bad theme ?
[17:20] <cyris|> I have windows xp vpn clients that have locally installed printers on them. Is it possible to have these printers managed by cups ? even tho they are not installed on the server itself ?
[17:20] <Travo> djhash, http://pastebin.com/m51d17d63
[17:20] <thinkmassive> agro1986: check out xubuntu for a lightweight gui
[17:20] <Jezz> so is it possible to have diffirent wallpapers on workspaces?
[17:21] <odinsbane> Its on a laptop that I only use as a webserver and to compile java.
[17:21] <Konam> ejer i know but i wanted that specifically
[17:21] <ejer> Jezz: it is possible... don't remember how
[17:21] <komputes> Jezz: I don't think by default, maybe compiz has advanced features for that
[17:22] <ejer> Konam: looks like u got some googling to do, especially if you don't know the name of it
[17:22] <Wolfen> Hello, I'm going to try this again b/c the website i was given didn't really do much.  How do i ENABLE my network when it currently says DISABLED?  shows my broadcom wireless card is installed but will not detect wireless networks.
[17:22] <soundray> bitchompR: see if this driver is compatible: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdricohcs/
[17:22] <ejer> Jezz: u cld try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[17:22] <ejer> grr
[17:22] <ankur> Hi, I have problems connecting to wifi networks, could someone help please (I just upgraded to Hardy)
[17:23] <ejer> Jezz: http://wallpapoz.akbarhome.com/
[17:23] <racquad> Hi there, I have some difficulty with compiz on 8.04.
[17:23] <bitchompR> soundray: I'll check it out, thanks.
[17:23] <thinkmassive> ejer: funny, I'm look at the same page
[17:23] <ejer> great minds think alike
[17:23] <ankur> I have Intel 3945ABG PRO wifi controller
[17:23] <racquad> I use scale plugin on 7.04 and configured it to just point the mouse at a screen corner to enable it. But on 8.04, I have to point and click at a corner
[17:23] <grosshans> racquad me too!
[17:23] <racquad> how can I disable this click? I mean, how can I run scale just pointing at an edge of the screen
[17:23] <staar2> is it possible to get the scanner scan buttons to work ?
[17:23] <racquad> grosshans: what is your problem?
[17:23] <thinkmassive> ejer: do you have a wacom tablet working in 8.04?
[17:24] <soundray> bitchompR: is yours built into a laptop?
[17:24] <ejer> thinkmassive: yep
[17:24] <thinkmassive> ejer: tablet pc?
[17:24] <ejer> thinkmassive: no, wacom tab
[17:24] <bitchompR> soundray: I have a desktop with a built in card reader.
[17:24] <grosshans> racquad i can't activate eyecandy at all..
[17:24] <racquad> I can
[17:24] <grosshans> in 7.10 all worked fine
[17:24] <soundray> bitchompR: do you know how it's connected internally? USB?
[17:25] <thinkmassive> ejer: ah cool, I'm trying to get my tabletpc to work but I don't see wacom under lspci or lsusb :(
[17:25] <djhash> Travo: I am at loss as to why its having trouble mounting the drive...
[17:25] <a> hi
[17:25] <bitchompR> soundray: it's connected internally, not usb
[17:25] <soundray> bitchompR: the devices that the sdricoh driver supports is mostly found in laptops
[17:25] <mrsnazz> is there a way that I can tell what parameters were used to build the php5-common_5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb package?
[17:25] <soundray> bitchompR: it can still be USB, even if it's internal
[17:26] <ejer> thinkmassive: maybe you need to do 'sudo modprobe wacom'
[17:26] <mrsnazz> phpinfo() doesn't show the build params :(
[17:26] <newbieee> i need create network with 2 ubuntu ,with sharing internet connection and view sharing folders of computers . plz say me how it do with network manual configurations options .sorri for my bad english
[17:26] <coreGrl> I've installed hardy but it keeps writing on disk..I dunno why but I've my disk activity very high comparing with previous versions..
[17:26] <agro1986> help: i'm finding a free software RPG game with a story that I can engross myself into. does it exist?
[17:26] <coreGrl> any hint?
[17:26] <grosshans> Did anybody else loose the better graphics (compiz abilities) with the upgrade to hardy?
[17:26] <bitchompR> soundray: the pc cover is off and it's not usb
[17:26] <danbhfive> coreGrl: is it an upgrade?
[17:27] <coreGrl> no
[17:27] <Travo> djhash, ugh.
[17:27] <coreGrl> a new install
[17:27] <beniamino> coreGrl: it might be trackerd -- it runs the disk all the time for me
[17:27] <soundray> bitchompR: how is it connected then?
[17:27] <bitchompR> soundray: how do I install that file I downloaded?
[17:27] <Travo> djhash, what about what that guy said about changing the UUID
[17:27] <olskolirc> hey guys i can't seem to bring my restricted nvidia driver down to 1024x768 can someone help me please?
[17:27] <ejer> newbieee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[17:27] <Travo> djhash: instead pointing it to a partition?
[17:27] <coreGrl> what's trackerd beniamino ?
[17:27] <odinsbane> so the repositories are still down?
[17:27] <suxxor> i need the skype of richard stallam somebody to tell me ?
[17:27] <ejer> agro1986: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Entertainment/RPG/First_Person.html
[17:27] <danbhfive> grosshans: try ccsm
[17:28] <soundray> bitchompR: leave it off for now, until you know how it is connected
[17:28] <grosshans> danbhfive what is that?
[17:28] <ejer> suxxor: if stallman uses skype the world is about to end
[17:28] <djhash> Travo: this is what we've been trying to do.. getting access to grub and changing it from uuid...
[17:28] <eax> What other alternatives are there to Gnome/KDE/Fluxbox?
[17:28] <soundray> suxxor: RMS won't use skype -- it'c closed source
[17:28] <beniamino> coreGrl: it indexes the files on your disk. you can check if it's running using system->administration->system monitor
[17:28] <kthakore> I having trouble with nx and ssh
[17:28] <soundray> *it's
[17:28] <olskolirc> I cant see half my sh* with this 800x600
[17:28] <suxxor> i need holy guidance to fix my ubuntu
[17:28] <djhash> Travo: but we can't load the disk to change any files in it..
[17:28] <kthakore> anyone know anything about nx server?
[17:28] <suxxor> i feel like i am running on windows...
[17:28] <Pici> !gq | suxxor
[17:28] <olskolirc> hey guys i can't seem to bring my restricted nvidia driver down to 1024x768 can someone help me please?
[17:28] <jdwatson> Heh...I used to produce a podcast called The GNU/Linux User Show and Stallman was on the show once. He asked me tell everyone in the next show not to use Skype :)
[17:28] <newbieee> ejer / tnx
[17:29] <bitchompR> soundray: my bad, it is usb. I just checked again and it plugs into usb2 on motherboard
[17:29] <soundray> kthakore: no, but there's a factoid
[17:29] <soundray> !freenx | kthakore
[17:29] <TheCompWiz> I've successfully done the exact opposite of coLinux!  YEAH!
[17:29] <djhash> mrsnazz: are you getting a blank page instead of the phpinfo stuff..
[17:29] <soundray> bitchompR: then it should be plug and play. Does it show when you enter 'lsusb' in a terminal?
[17:29] <TheCompWiz> coLinux/andLinux
[17:29] <sharperguy> Has anyone got virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24-17-rt (for the latest kernel) because it isnt in the repos
[17:29] <Travo> djhash, could be bad cables?
[17:30] <bitchompR> soundray: yes it shows up as - Bus 005 Device 004: ID 05e3:0760 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 Card Reader/Writer
[17:30] <Travo> djhash, that could really be it, since it happened when i installed the pci card, it went for a bit then quit on setup
[17:30] <bitchompR> soundray: but it doesn't detect my SD card when inserted
[17:30] <soundray> bitchompR: do a 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and insert an SD card. Any messages?
[17:30] <Travo> djhash: *startup
[17:31] <ejer> bitchompR: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636321
[17:31] <quaal> how do i create an email account folder in thunderbird
[17:31] <quaal> this is miserable
[17:31] <ejer> bitchompR: hehe altho he solved it by trying it again, but it is same device u have
[17:31] <suxxor> ooo will read the manual how ask question the stupid problem is that some bad going on when i am trying to change the resolution it shows me "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available. "
[17:31] <Kcaj> Hey
[17:31] <ejer> quaal: edit>account settings> add account
[17:31] <suxxor> * my computer is runnig too slow
[17:31] <Kcaj> I have a pantech PX500
[17:31] <quaal> ejer, did that
[17:31] <Kcaj> I need it to work on newest Ubuntu
[17:31] <Kcaj> How can do it easy the automatic?
[17:31] <quaal> it didnt put a new folder in the sidepane
[17:32] <quaal> i thought it was automatic but its not doing it
[17:32] <Kcaj> I am not so for much complex I can write all them scripts
[17:32] <Kcaj> What I do please? :(
[17:32] <FloodBot1> Kcaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <ejer> quaal: it is automatic, check it again
[17:32] <beniamino> is there any way to get trackerd to run only when the system is not in use? it is completely killing my machine
[17:32] <suxxor> i don`t even know what is this  XRandR extension
[17:32] <quaal> ejer, i restarted thunderbird even. nothing. its receiving the emails in the "Local Folders" section
[17:32] <quaal> which i dont want
[17:32] <ejer> Kcaj: don't know what a pantech px500 is even
[17:32] <bitchompR> soundray: It works! thanks!
[17:32] <suxxor> that my x-server don`t support
[17:32] <Kcaj> jt is an air card
[17:32] <Kcaj> Air card by Sprint
[17:33] <ejer> quaal: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Help_Documentation:Creating_an_Account
[17:33] <djhash> Travo: what's the PCI card?
[17:33] <mrsnazz> djhash: no, i get the phpinfo page, but the build parameters are not shown
[17:33] <quaal> ejer, i did.
[17:33] <echogen> soundray: after reading a tutorial about installing 8.04 it is mentioned somewhere that install CD loads into ram before installation, is that true? since when my computer crashes, there is still disk activity, could it be that ubuntu is still loading ?
[17:33] <staar2> why in grub the usb keyboard doesn't work ?
[17:33] <Travo> djhash, it is a pci card for asterisk, a linux pbx voip phone system
[17:33] <echogen> and how much would this approx. take ?
[17:34] <quaal> ejer, just did it again, with different settings
[17:34] <quaal> still doesnt pop up
[17:34] <eax> I've just downloaded Fluxbox via Synaptic, how do I enable it?
[17:34] <ejer> Kcaj: http://www.raincitystory.com/wp/2007/05/31/pantech-px-500-evdo-rev-a-card-on-linux may help
[17:34] <Kcaj> Yooo I mea just what do I get to get an air card working generally?
[17:34] <soundray> echogen: I don't think it loads into RAM, otherwise it wouldn't boot with 512MB or less.
[17:35] <Kcaj> That edvo link is definitely not for novices
[17:35] <bitchompR> I'm also trying to get ubuntu to work with my Windows mobile device, an Axim X51V. Couldn't find any working answers online.
[17:35] <RaduSerban> hallow
[17:35] <soundray> echogen: if you have disk activity and no display, maybe your graphics are incompatible. But you've tried the Safe Graphics option, I take it?
[17:35] <ejer> quaal: you could try moving your .mozilla-thunderbird folder elsewhere to start with clean config
[17:35] <djhash> Travo: ok.. it doesnt seem to be a problem with that..
[17:35] <echogen> i have disk activity, and the display is the one that first pops up after choosing the language, but i just cant move anything
[17:36] <scribawf> Is there any info on PDA's (PalmOne) Zire72 for 8.04 (Hardy)?
[17:36] <soundray> echogen: one thing worth trying is to hit F6 at the boot menu, edit the kernel line and remove the 'quiet splash' options
[17:37] <soundray> scribawf: check out System-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media-PDAs
[17:37] <GregVernon> Interesting problem....
[17:37] <GregVernon> Pidgin can connect to the internet, but seemingly nothing else can
[17:38] <scribawf> soundray - thanks much will check that out
[17:38] <GregVernon> Firefox, the little weather applet, add/remove apps... nothing...
[17:38] <GregVernon> yet I can IRC...
[17:38] <echogen> GregVernon: what protocol on pidgin are you using ?
[17:38] <ejer> GregVernon: did you set up a proxy in gnome perhaps
[17:38] <soundray> GregVernon: could be a spurious proxy setting
[17:39] <TheCompWiz> bunk'd DNS?
[17:39] <JuJuBee> How do I make it so when a user creates a file or folder within the public_html folder, it sets the group to www-data and chmod 750 the file/folder?
[17:39] <echogen> it can be a DNS problem and that protocol is connected directly to the IP address not to the hostname
[17:39] <GregVernon> TheCompWiz, If I boot into windows, which I think uses the same DNS settings, everything works
[17:39] <mikeooooo> i upgraded and my sound no longer works
[17:39] <GregVernon> echogen, IRC & AIM at the moment
[17:39] <mikeooooo> how do i get it working again?
[17:39] <TheCompWiz> GregVernon: ... *think* and *does* aren't always the same.
[17:39] <djhash> Travo: if you don't mind a reformat.. then you can go for a clean re-install.. but if you have data you want to make sure you end up keeping, then we can try some other way
[17:39] <ejer> JuJuBee: i don't think you can internally, not easily anyways
[17:39] <mikeooooo> onboard intel asus p5k-e wifi
[17:39] <eax> How do I start FLUXBOX in Feisty? And make it my default WIndowmanager?
[17:40] <echogen> soundray: hope that ... nosplash works
[17:40] <ejer> eax: logout and choose fluxbox from sessionjs
[17:40] <staar2> how to test the videocard its seems to have some problems under windows ?
[17:40] <dug_> how do you check your graphic card info from the command line?
[17:40] <GregVernon> soundray & ejer, I looked into the proxy settings on Firefox itself, didn't see anything weird... Played around a bit as well to no avail
[17:40] <echogen> i mean removing the quiteflash
[17:40] <GregVernon> TheCompWiz, well its all standard settings...
[17:40] <eax> ejer: Thanks a lot :)
[17:40] <djhash> Travo: this is not to say a reformat is currently the only choice.. but its definately the easiest solution..
[17:40] <soundray> GregVernon: open a terminal and run 'env | grep -i proxy'. Any output?
[17:41] <ejer> GregVernon: restarting network may clear things up as well
[17:41]  * eth01 waves
[17:41] <GregVernon> soundray, one sec
[17:41] <ejer> dug_: what do u want to know? lspci will give some info
[17:41] <Travo> djhash, yeah it is looking that way, put it on another ide bus and same issue... What strikes me as odd is it is loading grub on that drive but not mounting it
[17:41] <GregVernon> soundray, no output
[17:42] <smallfoot-> Was texlive in 7.10? did it get removed in 8.04?
[17:42] <ejer> mikeooooo: make sure stuff is not muted to begin with
[17:42] <soundray> GregVernon: it's not that then. Can you ping a site by name, e.g. www.heise.de ?
[17:42] <soundray> smallfoot-: no, texlive is still there
[17:43] <GregVernon> soundray, yup, works fine :)
[17:43] <esperegu> after updating to 0804 when I try to access network share in KVM my hole system crashes. This worked perfectly before... any  suggestions?
[17:43] <smallfoot-> The program 'latex' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[17:43] <smallfoot-> sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-base
[17:43] <smallfoot-> bash: latex: command not found
[17:43] <soundray> GregVernon: that pretty much rules out DNS problems.
[17:43] <smallfoot-> why isnt tex on my system?
[17:43] <soundray> smallfoot-: apparently because it's not installed
[17:43] <John117> Hey guys...  Maybe I'm not understanding this.  I just want to set up my ubuntu machine to share its drives so i can access them from my windows machines.  Do I really need SAMBA?
[17:43] <staar2> how to test the videocard its seems to have some problems under windows ?
[17:43] <ejer> smallfoot-: it tells you how to install it...
[17:43] <smallfoot-> soundray, im using 8.04, shouldnt it be installed?
[17:43] <wolferine> smallfoot-, install it; problem solved :D
[17:44] <mikeooooo> ejer its not muted
[17:44] <soundray> smallfoot-: no
[17:44] <GregVernon> I know this is the oddest thing I've seen in awhile
[17:44] <ejer> John117: yes, but it will set that up for you...
[17:44] <smallfoot-> soundray, i think it was installed by default in 7.10 ?
[17:44] <Travo> djhash, is there anyway I could get this to work through the gnome partition editor?
[17:44] <habit> Hello. How I can install kde4 without deleting gnome?
[17:44] <soundray> smallfoot-: you think wrong ;)
[17:44] <ejer> GregVernon: did u restart network
[17:44] <jrib> !kde4 > habit (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:44] <wolferine> smallfoot-, are you using 7.10 ?
[17:44] <ejer> habit: just install it, will not remove anything
[17:44] <eth01> soundray: couldn't help but notice. fellow alumni :)
[17:44] <smallfoot-> wolferine, no, i installed 8.04 but before i had 7.10, i had tex in 7.10, but i dont have it in 8.04
[17:44] <Werecow> Can someone help me figure out how to enable my network?  it currently says it is disabled when i type "sudo lshw -C network in terminal (Ubuntu 8.04)
[17:45] <GregVernon> ejer, not yet.  I'll do that now.  I've been hesitant to restart the network since that will take everything down
[17:45] <kunwon1> My gutsy kubuntu system has recently started freezing up when I'm doing things like watching flash videos, playing games, etc. Hard freezes, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does nothing. I'm looking for information that will help me determine what's causing the problem - there's nothing in logs, and I don't remember if this was after an update or a software install.. any suggestions would be appreciated.
[17:45] <GregVernon> I'll do that now though.  brb...
[17:45] <wolferine> smallfoot-, well, now you will have it ...
[17:45] <ejer> GregVernon: ? it should not hurt anything...
[17:45] <ejer> unless u r downloading or something
[17:45] <habit> I mean how I can have full desktops ubuntu desktop and kubuntu? With all default applications, you know...
[17:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> !u
[17:45] <jrib> habit: we just told you
[17:45] <GregVernon> Hrm, how do I restart the network on Ubuntu...
[17:46] <GregVernon> The last distro I was on had a restart button :)
[17:46] <bogey-> greg: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:46] <khakane> i want to remove gedit, but it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop with it, in Gutsy it let me do this, is there a way i can ONLY remove gedit?
[17:46] <meeper> huh, netdrive does exactly what I want. and it's free. freaky.
[17:46] <John117> ejer: I have installed Samba.. And the processes are running, Do i have to set up sharing on each drive I want to share on the network?  I right clicked and i don't see anything for sharing.    You can just guide me to a tutorial if you want.
[17:46] <eth01> except, i did my MiF there ;)
[17:46] <khakane> btw - im on 8.04
[17:46] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | khakane
[17:46] <ihtspam> Hello chaps. Is there any way of finding out (from commandline) whether the sata dvdrom in my machine has a cache or not?
[17:46] <habit> jrib, there are different things. I mean that: I want to have kubuntu-kde4 desktop, and if I am will install just kde4-core, it is not actually what I need.
[17:46] <khakane> jrib: hrmm ok but will it bring gedit back with it?
[17:46] <ejer> meeper: it is a bit unstable, but works, don't depend on it...
[17:47] <BadChoice> hey, i have a problem, i mounted a new partition to fstab, but sometimes it is sda8 and other its sdb8,
[17:47] <jrib> khakane: yes, if you install -desktop it will bring it back
[17:47] <echogen> are there anyway to know what would be the numbers of my partition in linux ?
[17:47] <djhash> Travo: Let me check
[17:47] <BadChoice> then I have when I start and the name is changed I have to go to tty and mount it manually
[17:47] <GregVernon> the heck is this nonsense: su /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:47] <GregVernon> Unknown id: /etc/init.d/networking
[17:47] <danbhfive> echogen: sudo fdisk -l
[17:47] <BadChoice> does anyone know how to avoid this?
[17:47] <khakane> jrib: ok as long as i dont NEED ubuntu-desktop im fine with that
[17:48] <GregVernon> waaaaaaaaaait
[17:48] <jrib> habit: your sentence doesn't make sense.  If you want kubuntu-desktop, just install the kubuntu-desktop package.  You'll be given an option as to which to load at the login screen
[17:48] <ihtspam> GregVernon: sudo not su
[17:48] <jrib> khakane: yep, you don't need it
[17:48] <khakane> jrib: thanks
[17:48] <GregVernon> ihtspam, yeah, just got that
[17:48] <ejer> John117: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[17:48] <BadChoice> the other partitions have strange numbers before, I think that its how it mounts automatically sda or sdb
[17:48] <ejer> wish ubuntu docs were not so hidden
[17:48] <djhash> Travo: load gnome partition editor.. it'll atleast tell you what type of filesystem it is..
[17:48] <echogen> danbhfive: i mean from windows, if i dont have linux installed
[17:48] <GregVernon> more often than not I'll su into root... thats where the issue came up...
[17:49] <echogen> cz i am trying, the install from hardisk option
[17:49] <jrib> !away > proteus_away (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:49] <danbhfive> echogen: you can try in #windows
[17:49] <Werecow> Could someone tell me if there is a better channel to get help with my question?
[17:49] <BadChoice> does anyone know how to solve this?
[17:49] <John117> ejer: Thank you.. So i can't share an entire drive, only a specific folder?
[17:49] <jrib> !support > werecow (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:50] <mkz> I've used trickle to limit the bandwidth I consume on a case-by-case basis, but occationally I run into a situation where I can't user trickle.  I need two things: first, I need a reliable way to determine what my current bandwidth consumption is (preferably CLI).  Second, a means to configure my bandwidth limits on a broader basis.
[17:50] <ejer> John117: you can share a drive, but they are mounted in folders anyways, so it is really a folder... like /media/mywindowsdrive or whatever
[17:50] <djhash> Werecow: i think there is a #network channel
[17:50] <GregVernon> ejer, no difference after a restarted network
[17:50] <ejer> GregVernon: what exactly cannot access internet
[17:50] <djhash> Werecow: ignore it.. seems empty
[17:51] <GregVernon> ejer, it seems like everything except Pidgin
[17:51] <staar2> how to install usb printer ?
[17:51] <Werecow> i'm brand new to linux, so i'm needing a little assistance, lol.  i've read the webpages and haven't found anything close to what i need.
[17:51] <soundray> GregVernon: don't forget ping
[17:51] <djhash> Werecow: try "ifup eth0" where eth0 is the network device
[17:51] <dug_> staar2: what kind of printer?  if hp see hplib (hp-setup and hp-toolbox commands)
[17:51] <ejer> GregVernon: and u r sure pidgin is not just timing out connecting to msn or something
[17:51] <staar2> hp
[17:51] <GregVernon> soundray: yeah, my bad...
[17:51] <GregVernon> ejer, I'm on Pidgin right now....
[17:52] <BadChoice> I've mounted a new partitons, but sometimes is sda8 and others its sdb8, then I can't use just one in fstab, anyone knows how to solve this?
[17:52] <djhash> Travo: have you loaded gnome partition editor
[17:52] <dug_> staar2: install hplip package and then run hp-setup after printer is connected and turned on
[17:52] <ejer> oops
[17:52] <jrib> staar2: sometimes you can just plug them in and turn them on
[17:52] <mneptok> Werecow: what kind of connection are you trying to use?
[17:52] <dug_> staar2: sudo hp-setup i mean
[17:52] <kunwon1> My gutsy box is hard-freezing at random times when the system's under heavy load - How would I determine what's causing this?
[17:52] <staar2> k try
[17:52] <draeath> are security updates pushed out to mirrors, or am i stuck with the security archive crapping up?
[17:52] <soundray> BadChoice: use the uuid
[17:52] <ejer> GregVernon: i personally would try a full reboot
[17:52] <John117> ejer: okay.. Thanks..  At what point do i right click the drive and see "sharing"  Ex: If i go to "Computer" and right click on "USB Drive" there is no sharing.  Should i navigate to dif location?
[17:52] <PyChild> Hello. Suggestions for running Windows XP under Ubuntu on Single Processor PC?
[17:52] <soundray> !uuid | BadChoice
[17:52] <GregVernon> ejer, well I have before... Last night I was experiencing the same problem, shut the PC down etc.
[17:52] <dug_> PyChild: there are VirtualBox or vmware and things like that
[17:53] <dimedo> i just tried out devilspie on my Gnome desktop with compiz. Somehow i'm unable to use the pin feature and to set apps to viewport 1. the other viewports can be used without problem. any ideas?
[17:53] <ejer> John117: click on a folder within that drive
[17:53] <ldiamond> I need a good MP3 Player, what should I use? (on windows I use Foobar)
[17:53] <raket> hey people (I use Kubuntu). ﻿how would I update firefox to the newest version, since adept won't do it for me?
[17:53] <mneptok> ldiamond: Rhythmbox?
[17:53] <dwxreaper> why does x-windows stop working sometimes
[17:53] <PyChild> vmware requires two processor, researching virtualbox...
[17:53] <errpast> anyone have success with fw-cutter and bcm wireless. It isn't working for me
[17:53] <LaneLimited> Hello all, I just installed via synptac manager... "dicelab".... how do i get this program to run.. it is not on my menu... it is in /usr/bin/dicelab ??   Ty please.
[17:53] <soundray> ldiamond: audacious perhaps
[17:53] <ejer> PyChild: no it does not require 2 cpus
[17:53] <mneptok> dwxreaper: because you turn off the computer? *rimshot*
[17:53] <PyChild> ldiamond, "Listen"
[17:53] <errpast> Or should I try ndis wrapper.?
[17:53] <dwxreaper> mneptok: no it's still running
[17:53] <John117> ejer: and sharing a folder within the drive will share the entire contents of the drive?  Maybe I'm not being clear.  I want to share the entire drive.  Not just a specific folder within.
[17:53] <ldiamond> mneptok: how do I uninstall a package after installing it with apt-get?
[17:53] <jrib> raket: you should stick to what the repositories have.  Security updates will be provided
[17:54] <PyChild> ejer, it says my hardware is unsupported
[17:54] <soundray> !player | ldiamond
[17:54] <mneptok> ldiamond: sudo apt-get remove $packagename
[17:54] <eax> Hello :) Can anyone help me with Fluxbox? When I start it it shows me nothing but the taskbar, when I rightclick the menu is empty :O Does anyone know what to do?
[17:54] <kartik_> having problem with sound....volume control always on mute. ANY HELP?
[17:54] <ejer> John117: the drive should be visible in /media, so browse to there within file system
[17:54] <BadChoice> really thanks ubottu!! i'll try it!
[17:54] <raket> jrib: that wasn't my question though
[17:54] <mrichman> How do I grant a specific user write perms to a folder?
[17:54] <errpast> does anyone know how to get broadcom wireless working?
[17:54] <soundray> BadChoice: the bot appreciates your gratitude
[17:54] <ejer> eax: that is a stripped down window manager, minimalistic... you can add items to menu in ~/.fluxbox/menu
[17:55] <mneptok> !botsnack
[17:55] <PyChild> ldiamond, Rhythmbox is broken ATM (IMHO) goto Listen
[17:55] <danbhfive> mrichman: some usage of chmod I believe
[17:55] <John117> ejer: Thanks. I think that's what I needed.   Have a great day!
[17:55] <mneptok> PyChild: "broken?"
[17:55] <LaneLimited> Please, what do i type in termainal to get a program to run
[17:55] <ejer> rhythmbox works very well
[17:55] <jescis> mrichman: chmod
[17:55] <jrib> raket: I know, I gave you advice
[17:55] <draeath> errpast: find "fwcutter" and install it (it's in the repo) then reboot. make sure you say yes when it asks to download firmware
[17:55] <kartik_>  having problem with sound....volume control always on mute. ANY HELP?
[17:55] <kartik_>  having problem with sound....volume control always on mute. ANY HELP?
[17:55] <kartik_>  having problem with sound....volume control always on mute. ANY HELP?
[17:55] <FloodBot1> kartik_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <PyChild> mnemo, its missing some things, things that it even used to have
[17:55] <ejer> LaneLimited: the name of the program :)
[17:55] <eax> ejer: Thanks, I know :) But it's like.. Empty Oo Isn't it supposed to come with SOMETHING? The /.fluxbox doesn't even exist :(
[17:55] <raket> jrib: well how would I do it, if I insist ?
[17:55] <dug_> errpast: did you try enabling the restricted driver: system->administration->hardware drivers?  I used ndiswrapper before (in gutsy) but now the restricted driver appears to work fine
[17:55] <PyChild> mnemo, sorry
[17:55] <mrichman> jescis: yes, i am looking for the proper syntax...some form of chmod +w
[17:55] <LaneLimited> ejer: ty
[17:56] <jrib> raket: download the tar.gz fro mozilla and install it to /opt...
[17:56] <PyChild> mnemo, its missing some things, things that it even used to have
[17:56] <ldiamond> I currently have kernel 2.6.24, I need kernel 2.6.25, how can I do that?
[17:56] <PyChild> mnemo, oh dammit
[17:56] <gondim> hi all
[17:56] <mneptok> PyChild: that's not "broken"
[17:56] <ejer> eax: there is a program to generate menus... but no, it comes empty, if you want a more user friendly desktop, try xfce4
[17:56] <draeath> dug_: b43 doesn't (didn't today) show in restricted, it just whines in the console
[17:56] <errpast> draeath, thatnks. i did that. Didn't work. The restriced driver is not showing up in sys>admin>hardware
[17:56] <gondim> Good afternoon. I'm having this problem: when I had the Ubuntu 7.10 server, my apache worked very well and with few time_waits. Now in Ubuntu 8.04 server, the Apache is consuming more tasks because the increased time_waits. Someone could help?
[17:56] <kartik_> can any one please help wit my sound problem
[17:56] <PyChild> mneptok, IMHO
[17:56] <eax> ejer: I don't ;) I just need a guide on Fluxbox menus ;)
[17:56] <raket> jrib: wasn't there an easier way, like adding a repo or something?
[17:56] <jrib> raket: no
[17:56] <ejer> eax: google
[17:56] <mneptok> PyChild: "broken" means "the package does not work."
[17:56] <soundray> ldiamond: you'd have to compile it yourself, but that's not recommended
[17:56] <draeath> errpast: i myself didn't see it as a restricted driver. i just had an interface after that that i could manipulate as normal (but i don't do it the easy way)
[17:56] <eax> Ejer: Thanks :)
[17:56] <ldiamond> Why not?
[17:57] <SliM1> hello
[17:57] <danbhfive> ldiamond: the ubuntu answer is to wait for the next release...
[17:57] <soundray> !kernelcompile | ldiamond
[17:57] <errpast> dug_, Did you need to do anything to get the restricted driver listed? The restricted driver showed up fine for nvidia.
[17:57] <mneptok> PyChild: it has a specific meaning to Ubuntu users. it's usually not used to refer to missing functionality.
[17:57] <Werecow> mneptok: attempting to use wireless connection with BCM 4312.  from what i can tell, the driver is being recognised
[17:57] <kunwon1> Is there no way to diagnose what's causing my box to hard freeze? I'm starting to think I'm going to have to start replacing pieces of hardware, or try a new OS install
[17:57] <PyChild> mneptok, ok got it
[17:57] <ldiamond> And next release with 2.6.25 is expected when?
[17:57] <kartik_> can any one please help wit my sound problem
[17:57] <SliM1> i want to upgrade to hardy (from gutsy) using the alternate cd
[17:57] <raket> jrib: so manually downloading the source/ or whatever is the only way to update, you say?
[17:57] <mneptok> Werecow: did you install the firmware cutter?
[17:57] <wayne> hello everybody. Does anybody know smth about that
[17:57] <wayne> ibrapi2-tools: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be
[17:57] <wayne> installed
[17:57] <wayne>   librra0-tools: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed
[17:57] <FloodBot1> wayne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <errpast> draeath, hmmm. I've tried building from source too. No luck. Could there be a bios seting?
[17:57] <BadChoice> ﻿soundray: I didn't know it is a bot
[17:57] <ejer> kunwon1: lots of ways to troubleshoot, look at output of dmesg
[17:57] <Werecow> mneptok: however when I type "sudo lshw -C network" says network disabled
[17:57] <dug_> errpast: I'm not sure if my card is the same, i have a bcm4312, i used these ndiswrapper instructions to get it to work back in gutsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[17:57] <BadChoice> jeje
[17:57] <LaneLimited> Is their anything to type in terminal to make a shortcut of a progrmam on meu or desktop???!
[17:57] <danbhfive> ldiamond: ubuntu releases every 6 months, so 2008/10
[17:58] <jrib> raket: no official repo anyway.  Anybody can create their own.  Yes, to what you just said.  And you won't be updating, you'll just be installing another copy of firefox
[17:58] <soundray> kunwon1: you could run hardware checks first. Start with memtest86 (boot option)
[17:58] <agro1986> a great ubuntu day... good night all...
[17:58] <kartik_> any one here having problem with there sound card
[17:58] <errpast> dug_, thanks. I have a 4310.
[17:58] <SliM1> but the one who has written the image to disc didn't do it in a right way, so the shell script doesn't really work
[17:58] <rambo3> !ot
[17:58] <soundray> BadChoice: now you do :)
[17:58] <draeath> errpast: i dont think its bios. which card do you have?
[17:58] <SliM1> how can i manually start the upgrader?
[17:58] <mneptok> PyChild: "Rhythmbox used to be an app I liked. Now some stuff's been removed and I don't like it as much." same idea, but no ambiguity about what is wrong. ;)
[17:58] <BadChoice> ﻿LaneLimited:  yes it is, ln -s <PROGRAM> <PLACE>
[17:58] <PyChild> mneptok, Rhythmbox stopped working with my Zen after feitsy, but it compiles so its not broken just not usable for me right now
[17:59] <raket> jrib: ok thanks...
[17:59] <mneptok> PyChild: i don;t mind if you diss R-box. just make sure people know it's opinion, and not something the devs screwed up.
[17:59] <kartik_> i have a sigma hi defination audio card
[17:59] <kartik_> worked absolutely fine in 7.04
[17:59] <ejer> and u compile it yourself PyChild?
[17:59] <kartik_> now the volume control is permenently  set to mute
[18:00] <GaintSura> could anyone explain to me why my terminal keeps randomly freezing up on me when I'm in the middle of inputing commands?
[18:00] <ldiamond> I need kernel 2.6.25 as soon as possible
[18:00] <PyChild> ejer, I rather not do that with official packages
[18:00] <soundray> ldiamond: why?
[18:00] <mkelly32> hi, tracker has been "Merging 1/38 indexes" for 6 hours... is that normal behavior? or has it hung?
[18:00] <dwxreaper> why does x-windows stop working sometimes
[18:00] <kunwon1> ejer, doesn't dmesg just print boot-up information?
[18:00] <errpast> dug_, these look good. a little different than the previous ndis wrapper instructions I tried. I'll give it a try.
[18:00] <spiderfire> hello
[18:00] <ldiamond> Because I need to use a patched version of my wireless driver that only works with 2.6.25 (bug fixed) otherwise ubuntu hangs at bootup
[18:00] <errpast> draeath, I have a BCM4310
[18:00] <draeath> dwxreaper: afraid you'll need to be more specific. What you just asked is akin to "why does windows keep freezing?"
[18:01] <wayne> could anyone help me with that http://paste.ubuntu.com/10776/
[18:01] <rambo3>  how do i disable terminal and xchat using system speaker , when tabbing and pressing -> key
[18:01] <soundray> ldiamond: has that bug been reported on launchpad?
[18:01] <draeath> errpast: hmm. not sure - i was testing a BCM4306 earlier, that used the b43legacy module. If you check your console (tty1) do you get any messages spamming you?
[18:01] <GregVernon> well *that* didn't work
[18:01] <dug_> !ati
[18:01] <errpast> draeath, I don't think it's bios either.  I'm going to try another set of ndiswrapper instructions suggested by dug_ , they seem a little more thorough than the ones I followed two hours ago
[18:01] <glavanway> screen
[18:01] <ldiamond> I have no idea.
[18:01] <SliM1> how can i start the upgrader without using the cdromupgrade script?
[18:01] <ccooke> rambo3: Right click on the terminal
[18:01] <glavanway> exit
[18:01] <draeath> errpast: ndiswrapper should be fairly straight-forward
[18:01] <soundray> ldiamond: go and have a look please
[18:01] <ccooke> rambo3: Choose 'Edit current profile'
[18:01] <errpast> draeath, not on this laptop. good point though. On another laptop I would get that message on tty
[18:02] <glavanway> q
[18:02] <ccooke> rambo3: deselect 'Terminal Bell'
[18:02] <glavanway> quit
[18:02] <errpast> draeath, at this point, I'd be happy to get any message telling me the system is aware of the BCM :)
[18:02] <draeath> errpast: odd - do you even see the card under ifconfig
[18:02] <draeath> errpast: and I <hope> it shows under lspci
[18:02] <rambo3> ccooke, ok
[18:02] <ldiamond> soundray: whats launchpad ?
[18:02] <lobazo> please help me how can i burn a cd with cue file. it'music in flac format
[18:02] <GregVernon> I tried to manually set up the network but that, of course, failed epically
[18:02] <djhash> glavanway: to exit channel/server you need forward slash "/quit"
[18:02] <soundray> !bugs | ldiamond
[18:02] <errpast> draeath, no. iwconfig shows no wireless connections. ifconfig shows my wired nic - which is working fine.
[18:03] <errpast> draeath, yes, I see it fine under lspci
[18:03] <spiderfire> My system crashes when i try to update packages. Locks up. Both with the taskbar utility and command line. Seems to be when it says reading database. Is there something i can delete there to fix this?
[18:03] <ldiamond> well, thats not a ubuntu related bug, more like a kernel bug.
[18:03] <lobazo> please help me how can i burn a cd with cue file. it'music in flac format
[18:03] <kartik_>  hey can u help me with my sound card problem
 its a sigma hi def card(dell 1520)
 volume control is permenently set to 0
 it will be great if you could help
 any one there????
[18:03] <soundray> lobazo: convert it to a .iso first
[18:03] <FloodBot1> kartik_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:03] <errpast> draeath, hmmm, since I don't see it under ifconfig, I wonder what that means
[18:03] <soundray> !info bchunk | lobazo
[18:03] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire have you edit sources.list or installed automatix?
[18:04] <BadChoice> ﻿﻿soundray: its a very good bot it answered very well my answer, although it was easy with the words sda and sdb... is it as efficiently in a variety of questions?
[18:04] <CyD> i can't seem to get the ppa version of amarok to show up from the ppa-ipod-touch repo. anyone know if there's a problem with it lately on gutsy, or just me? worked last time i tried a month ago..
[18:04] <lobazo> no i have dowload music in .flac
[18:04] <draeath> errpast: the module did't load it seems
[18:04] <errpast> draeath, so since I see it under lspci, it seems the kernel knows about it.  /lib/firmware also has a b43 driver I installed
[18:04] <ejer> kartik_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:04] <soundray> ldiamond: ubuntu relies on the kernel, so your problem is highly relevant to ubuntu.
[18:04] <lobazo> with other archive .cue
[18:04] <draeath> errpast: pick through "lsmod" and see if you see anything interesting. likely module would start with "b43"
[18:04] <errpast> draeath, it seems that way. but lsmod shows a bunch of b53 entries.
[18:04] <lobazo> i can burtn that in windows with autoflac and eac
[18:04] <GregVernon> ugh
[18:05] <soundray> BadChoice: I made it give you that factoid. Look:
[18:05] <draeath> errpast: wierd. perhaps it's trying to modprobe a module for the wrong chipset?
[18:05] <soundray> !uuid | BadChoice
[18:05] <GregVernon> Why can I *ping* yahoo.com but I can't get there via Firefox
[18:05] <GregVernon> friggin rediculous
[18:05] <ejer> lobazo: i think k3b should be able to
[18:05] <ldiamond> soundray: there are several bugs reported for this wireless driver.
[18:05] <glavanway> Hello all first time I have used screen and irc!
[18:05] <draeath> errpast: what was your device again?
[18:05] <soundray> ldiamond: so keep looking. Maybe someone has posted a workaround. Which driver is it, anyway?
[18:05] <ejer> GregVernon: check FF network settings, check all your network settings, DNS, route, etc
[18:05] <BadChoice> ﻿soundray: wuoooo, I was seeing this in the tittle to type msg ubottu etiquette
[18:06] <mikeooooo> ok this is weird, sound works in the flash plugin, but not in anything else
[18:06] <kunwon1> Okay. ejer mentioned that dmesg might help me diagnose my system freezes, but dmesg only outputs boot messages. Is there some setting I can change? log level? debug level?
[18:06] <BadChoice> ﻿soundray: I really like it!! pipes in a chat!
[18:06] <glavanway> help
[18:06] <errpast> draeath, it's a BCM4310
[18:06] <lobazo> i'd like to burn to play in my cd-player
[18:06] <matte_> hi
[18:06] <soundray> BadChoice: beats chatting in a pipe
[18:06] <ejer> kunwon1: did u look at the output after a freeze?
[18:06] <GregVernon> ejer, I have... I haven't changed any settings... this is a *clean* install
[18:06] <glavanway> how do I get a list of commands?
[18:06]  * soundray blushes. Bad one
[18:06] <matte_> anyone know a voip telephone work great with skype?
[18:06] <lobazo> my cd player can't play flac files
[18:06] <olskolirc> can someone help me get my resolution up to 1024x768 please.  I don't have the option to do that and I'm using nvidia
[18:07] <ejer> GregVernon: *something* has been changed or is wrong evidently
[18:07] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: no
[18:07] <djhash> !enter:kartik_
[18:07] <kunwon1> ejer, when the system freezes, I can't invoke dmesg. I must first reboot. Hence, hard freezes.
[18:07] <mikeooooo> how do i get sound working? its hda intel
[18:07] <errpast> draeath I guess I lied. I don't see b53 with lsmod.  I think I rmmod a while ago. modprobe b53 says it can't find module
[18:07] <mikeooooo> it works in flash player, but not in any programs
[18:07] <errpast> draeath, I better check my notes.
[18:07] <djhash> !enter | kartik_
[18:07] <BadChoice> ﻿GregVernon: ﻿look if there is a proxy on your firefox settings
[18:07] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: whats auotmatix?
[18:07] <draeath> errpast: bad sign: the b43 driver supports 4309 and 4311 but no 4310....
[18:07] <GregVernon> ejer, yes, something is wrong, but I can't imagine what...
[18:07] <ejer> kunwon1: gonna be difficult to troubleshoot then, you can check /var/log/messages ... /var/log/Xorg.0.log etc
[18:07] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire could you copy your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste bin and linky back here?
[18:07] <Infecto> No support for device type: thermal
[18:08] <errpast> draeath, ah ha. interesting. good info.
[18:08] <olskolirc> can someone help me get my resolution up to 1024x768 please.  I don't have the option to do that and I'm using nvidia
[18:08] <GregVernon> This is the first time I've had an issue with only 1 or 2 apps being able to access the net while nothing else can
[18:08] <ejer> GregVernon: as i said, network settings in FF, in network settings in gnome, etc
[18:08] <soundray> lobazo: convert your flac files to wav format and burn them in audio format with k3b
[18:08] <suxxor> i want to stop compiz how to do that
[18:08] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: ok
[18:08] <Infecto>  can some one tell me is this will be repaired soon in ubuntu?
[18:08] <ldiamond> soundray: iwl4965, I'm trying to enable packet injection
[18:08] <errpast> draeath, I didn't come across that in my travels. Glad you did. Maybe ndiswrapper is way to go?
[18:08] <glavanway> This remind me of the old BBSs.
[18:08] <olskolirc> will what be repaired?
[18:08] <BadChoice> ﻿olskolirc: press ctrl + alt + "+" at the same time
[18:08] <glavanway> Can I change the color of my text?
[18:08] <dug_> Infecto: what is thermal
[18:08] <kunwon1> ejer, I forgot about xorg logs, thanks, I'll check them right quick
[18:08] <Scunizi> glavanway: except this is real time..
[18:08] <Kcaj> I got an error
[18:08] <suxxor> i can`t stop compiz
[18:08] <Werecow> mneptok:  I have fwcutter on the computer
[18:09] <suxxor>  compiz stop
[18:09] <suxxor> Checking for Xgl: present.
[18:09] <suxxor> Checking for nVidia: not present.
[18:09] <suxxor> Checking for Xgl: present.
[18:09] <suxxor> Enabling Xgl with fglrx ATi drivers...
[18:09] <FloodBot1> suxxor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <suxxor> /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Couldn't load plugin 'stop'
[18:09] <Kcaj> trying to run air card I need options hat can be recognized for
[18:09] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: i just tried to update list and and therres an error.  Failed to fetch Hash Sum mismatch
[18:09] <cybrside> lol
[18:09] <Infecto> dug_: ke? thermal is thermal
[18:09] <GregVernon> hm
[18:09] <draeath> errpast: most likely. I've used it before - it works well as long as you don't want to do anything wierd (if all you want to do is connect to a network, your fine)
[18:09] <Kcaj> pppd call Sprint_EVDO updetac
[18:09] <GregVernon> I can get to the Router setup page on firefox...
[18:09] <errpast> draeath, interesting. Does weird include wpa?
[18:09] <djhash> !paste | suxxor
[18:09] <errpast> draeath, or more like monitor/promiscuous mode?
[18:09] <draeath> errpast: let me check. for your reference, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[18:09] <ejer> GregVernon: points to a router issue perhaps
[18:10] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire try a different mirror
[18:10] <errpast> draeath, thanks. I'll check that link too.
[18:10] <draeath> errpast: windows NDIS doesn't support monitor/promiscuous, so no-go on that
[18:10] <GregVernon> ejer, maybe.  But if I boot into windows things seem to work...
[18:10] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: ok
[18:10] <arcsky> When i remote computers with Terminal Server Client with setting "Operate in Full screen" i leave that screen and use "switch -F" doesnt work neither... anyone know what to do ?
[18:10] <benjoldersma_> howdy, I'm having a problem where my all my web browsers (and pidgin) freeze up almost continuously.  I'm in Bosnia for a few weeks, it started happening right when i got here.  hardy heron on a thinkpad t61p.  thx for any help!
[18:10] <mi> what mess after update qt 4.4 i can't build KDE4 after this update ...some1 have same problem?
[18:10] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire you know how to select in Software Sources?
[18:10] <draeath> errpast: i researched and bought a PCMCIA netgear WG511T (their "normal" 108mbps) because of hte atheros chipset, it works with madwifi and lets me do just about anything
[18:10] <glavanway> This is very confussing to watch
[18:11] <errpast> eracc, good point on promiscous mode
[18:11] <Wo0dy> is anyone here using rescuetime?
[18:11] <draeath> errpast: wpa on ndiswrapper: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,wpa/
[18:11] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire Download From:
[18:11] <GregVernon> I know I have a static IP in windows, but DHCP is on at the router level so that souldn't be an issue
[18:11] <cirkit> benjoldersma_: please make sure you have the latest graphics drivers for your T61 ... nvidia?
[18:11] <staar2> so any help with installing hp, already installed hplib but now the installing gui cant find the usb port
[18:11] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: hmmm.  okay willl do
[18:11] <draeath> errpast: so it is supported. i would just load the driver with ndiswrapper (get to the point where "iwconfig" shows you the card) and see if ubuntu's normal networking stuff will do the wpa for you
[18:11] <errpast> draeath, that's a good idea. re-atheros
[18:11] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: yes, nvidia
[18:11] <ldiamond> How do I get ubuntu to use dual screen?
[18:12] <soundray> ldiamond: are you on 8.04?
[18:12] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: 169.12 ?
[18:12] <draeath> errpast: manual wpa setup on linux is pure evil
[18:12] <ldiamond> yes
[18:12] <glavanway> Does anyone know how to unlock the screen after you lock it?  Ubuntu 8.04????????????????????????????
[18:12] <errpast> draeath, I'll go do that now.  thanks for your patience, time and knowdedge.  I appreciate it.
[18:12] <lobazo>  but i'd like the exactly copy of the cd with the pregaps this information is in the cue file
[18:12] <cirkit> benjoldersma_: you can install the drivers from Administration I believe it's hardware authorization ... yeah 169 should be it
[18:12] <ejer> GregVernon: u r trying to logically fix an issue without knowing the variables :) Go make sure settings are ok... set it to known working settings (static ip), then move to where u want to be one step at a time
[18:12] <soundray> ldiamond: you should be able to configure it through System-Preferences-Screen Resolution then
[18:12] <^Tech-Help^> !u
[18:12] <draeath> errpast: welcome. feel free to annoy us anytime, also consider the ubuntu forum as well - you dont have to watch for the answers/responses
[18:13] <ejer> lobazo: as I said, try k3b, it should do what u want
[18:13] <sipior> dank u wel, ubottu!
[18:13] <ldiamond> I'm not, when I uncheck "clone screens", I can put my screen in the right order, but when I apply, it goes back to cloned mode.
[18:13] <ejer> ^Tech-Help^: is that 'u' for me
[18:13] <staar2> so any help with installing hp, already installed hplib but now the installing gui cant find the usb port
[18:13] <glavanway> Hello?
[18:13] <spiderfire> spiderbatdad: well that fixed it i guess cause theres no packages on this server
[18:13] <spiderfire> i mean new packages
[18:14] <sipior> glavanway: maybe you should try more question marks?
[18:14] <lobazo> ejer: do i have to open the cue file?
[18:14] <spiderfire> must be behind
[18:14] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: I am using the restrcited drivers for nvidia.  should i try envy?
[18:14] <spiderbatdad> spiderfire also...'sudo apt-get update --fix-missing' works
[18:15] <ldiamond> What are good drivers for Nvidia Geforce 8700M ?
[18:15] <lobazo> ejer: in k3b
[18:15] <Kl4m> ldiamond: The latest nvidia drivers should do the job in 8.04
[18:15] <ejer> lobazo: seems to make sense... since u  want to use a .cue to burn
[18:15] <cirkit> benjoldersma_: yeah envy is good ... but yeah should be the restricted drivers
[18:15] <spiderfire> ldiamond: you mean other then nvidia-glx-new?
[18:15] <ldiamond> kl4m: They dont, I cant get dual screen.
[18:16] <soundray> !envy | cirkit, benjoldersma_
[18:16] <DanaG> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjQ2MA
[18:16] <ldiamond> spiderfire: I dont know, anything that will get my dual screen to work.
[18:16] <DanaG> hmm, "rs480 / rs690 compiz achieved"
[18:16] <benjoldersma_> soundray: thx
[18:16] <justprogramming8> hi i have nokia n70 mobile and i want to connect it to computer using usb cable can some body give me programm like nokia suit
[18:16] <john__> I just upgraded to Hardy, and it will not let me boot through the regular way, I have to select recovery and then boot through that.  Can someone help me with this?
[18:17] <glavanwa1> ogra heloo
[18:17] <jescis> can mdetect be used on a command line(with out X)??
[18:17] <soundray> !info gnokii | justprogramming8
[18:17] <glavanwa1> How do you speak to someone directly
[18:17] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: has anyone else seen this problem, with the browser contiously locking up for 10 - 20 secs?  it's almost unusable
[18:17] <MrObvious> !bcm
[18:17] <glavanwa1> glavanway
[18:17] <MrObvious> !bcm43xx
[18:17] <glavanwa1> to glavanway
[18:17] <lobazo> ejer: but when i open the cue file in k3b it's says could not open the document
[18:17] <Infecto> !acpi
[18:17] <danbhfive> john__: maybe the upgrade didnt not complete
[18:17] <Scunizi> !who | glavanwa1
[18:17] <ejer> glavanwa1: typew their name (or start to type it and hit tab)
[18:17] <el1te> sup all
[18:17] <Kl4m> ldiamond: there is no other nvidia driver than the nvidia driver. envyng is for those who want the latestest :)
[18:18] <john__> then how can i complete it?
[18:18] <glavanwa1> thanks!
[18:18] <el1te> got a technical Q
[18:18] <soundray> benjoldersma_: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and see if anything unusual is logged before/after those events
[18:18] <glavanwa1> glavanwa1:
[18:18] <el1te> i have an older abit nf7-s v2.0 mboard (Sound Storm using the optical out) AND i have an old GF2 GTS 32megger with the VIVO module addon using the S-Video out (only)
[18:18] <benjoldersma_> soundray: thx will do
[18:18] <cirkit> benjoldersma_: if it is locking up (firefox ?) what I would do is remove the firefox profile and restart firefox again ... rm ~/.mozilla/firefox_profile
[18:18] <el1te> will ubuntu recognize the tv-out during install
[18:18] <darthanubis> whats wrong with the servers?
[18:18] <darthanubis> can't get updates
[18:19] <ejer> lobazo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474148&highlight=k3b+cue
[18:19] <Travo> djhash: you there?
[18:19] <ldiamond> kl4m: How do I get my dual screen to work then?
[18:19] <benjoldersma_> soundray: hmmm - maybe alsa - device or resource busy - okay thanks!  i'll see if i can figure out why thats happening
[18:19] <el1te> i here ubuntu does it all
[18:19] <el1te> can it do what i asked
[18:19] <milosz> how can i reconfigure the X server?
[18:19] <cirkit> milosz: X --configure
[18:19] <Kl4m> el1te: boot the live/install cd and see if it works
[18:20] <soundray> cirkit, benjoldersma_: rather than removing all of .mozilla, one could move it out of the way with 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla-backup'
[18:20] <el1te> um where do i get that at
[18:20] <el1te> ubuntu.com?
[18:20] <milosz> cirkit, doesn't work
[18:20] <mikeooooo> how do i set the default audio device in 8.04
[18:20] <cirkit> soundray: good idea
[18:20] <Kl4m> ldiamond: did you try with the screen setup (system -> preferences -> screen resolution)
[18:20] <cirkit> milosz: are you root?
[18:20] <Pici> Is there a CLI tool for easily managing apt mirrors?
[18:20] <ldiamond> kl4m: yes
[18:20] <soundray> cirkit: yeah, some people value their configurations and browsing history
[18:21] <benjoldersma_> cirkit: it's not just firefox, opera too
[18:21] <benjoldersma_> i think its sound
[18:21] <ompaul> !resolution | milosz instructions within
[18:21] <ompaul> cirkit, that is not how it is done in ubuntu - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is one way
[18:21] <cirkit> soundray: oh I see
[18:21] <ompaul> !root
[18:21] <benjoldersma_> Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy
[18:21] <ldiamond> Kl4m: it gives me a completely out of range frequency number, and reverts to cloned display when I apply the changes.
[18:21] <ompaul> !supportroot | cirkit
[18:21] <cirkit> ompaul: oh ok ... I come from slackware / arch and don't quite know the Ubuntu way yet .. thanks though
[18:21] <mattico> searching for guidance to create a bootable cdrom out of installed hardy. aware of any?
[18:22] <Kl4m> ldiamond: do you have the nvidia proprietary driver (needs an extra step, go in system -> admin -> drivers), or the open source nv?
[18:22] <exp_> can anyone help me with a link for installing Mame on '
[18:22] <exp_> can anyone help me with a link for installing Mame on 'Heron' AMD64
[18:22] <ompaul> cirkit, msg the bot search keyword and you will be enlightened :)
[18:22] <dug_> mattico: do you mean remastering?  creating your own ubuntu customization?
[18:22] <milosz> ompaul, there used to be an option in the Administration menu but it's not there anymore
[18:22] <milosz> with which i could detect my monitor and set up the resolutions
[18:22] <ldiamond> kl4m: Opensource I guess
[18:22] <ejer> mattico: http://www.linux-live.org/ may help
[18:23] <mattico> no just a recovery cdrom for the inevitable operator problem
[18:23] <mattico> thanks
[18:23] <ejer> mattico: look at modorescue too
[18:23] <ejer> mattico: mondorescue
[18:23] <ompaul> milosz, I don't like that one :-(  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg suits my mentality more but there is one there under screens and graphics
[18:24] <Kl4m> ldiamond: install the proprietary nvidia driver. go in system -> administration -> (something drivers). You should be asked to activate the nvidia driver
[18:24] <unimatrix9> hi all
[18:24] <hischild> Kl4m: hardware drivers. You have to tick it.
[18:24] <unimatrix9> could i update the jre for web package?
[18:24] <MMM> hi all =)
[18:24] <unimatrix9> just that piece
[18:25] <LaneLimited> Hello MMM
[18:25] <John117> I'm attempting to edit smb.conf and i can't save it.  It says I don't have permission because i'm not the owner.  the owner of the file is listed as "root" when i right click on it.  I am the only user on this machine. I just installed.  Are my permissions messed up??
[18:25] <ldiamond> Ill try, thx
[18:25] <hischild> John117: no. This is the linux way of protecting systemwise important files.
[18:25] <zenergi> Is there a difference between using /etc/init.d/ or /sbin/service to restart iptables?
[18:25] <doug_> John117: do sudo first
[18:26] <hischild> John117: open up a terminal. Then type sudo gedit /file/location/of/smb.conf
[18:26] <soundray> John117: open the file with 'gksudo gedit /etc/smb.conf' or similar
[18:26] <soundray> !gksudo | hischild
[18:26] <ejer> hehe try 'gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf' John117
[18:26] <John117> hischild: so i HAVE to use terminal? :)
[18:26] <benjoldersma_> soundray, cirkit:  hmm i change dsound to ALSA, and the errors are gone in syslog, but browser is still locking up :(
[18:27] <MMM> i have this problem (actually two).. How i can get radeon x300 with dual monitor support to work... I have read every thing on the forums and i always get to point where nothign works anymore
[18:27] <orudie> hey all, after dropping an 8 gb database, my diskpace didnt decrease
[18:27] <hischild> John117: Unless you create a shortcut, yes.
[18:27] <orudie> i'm sorry if i'm being silly, but maybe i should empty my "trash" lol
[18:27] <orudie> just like in windows
[18:27] <MMM> does anyone know any good tutorial ?
[18:27] <el1te> let me ask this....can i raid0 two usb flash drives?
[18:27] <doug_> John117: wow seems your popular in here lol
[18:27] <el1te> and install to that somehow
[18:28] <hischild> soundray: from my experience, gedit is one app that runs fine with sudo. But i am aware of the difference. Thanks for the link though.
[18:28] <soundray> orudie: wouldn't you expect it to *in*crease?
[18:28] <doug_> soundray: i use sudo gedit not gksudo
[18:28] <orudie> soundray, heh
[18:28] <el1te> does anyone know anything in here
[18:28] <ejer> orudie: look in /var/lib/mysql
[18:28] <orudie> soundray, i expect it to decrease and it didnt, thats what i was trying to say
[18:28] <sipior> el1te: well, we know manners, i suppose
[18:28] <ejer> no el1te
[18:28] <soundray> hischild, doug: it seems rather unwieldy to say 'graphical programs are not safe to run with sudo, except maybe gedit'
[18:29] <mikeooooo> how do i get xmms back in 8.04?
[18:29] <el1te> :)
[18:29] <hischild> doug_: gksudo is better then sudo in this case.
[18:29] <mikeooooo> i upgraded and it disappeared
[18:29] <orudie> ejer, look for what there??
[18:29] <el1te> hmmm
[18:29] <hischild> soundray: yes it does. I agree i should've suggested to use gksudo instead of sudo
[18:29] <orudie> ejer, i'm already there
[18:29] <letubenaiah> hey guys!  where do I find what my search path is?
[18:29] <soundray> orudie: by 'dropping', you mean deleting, though, don't you?
[18:29] <doug_> hischild:  and soundray only when sudo wont work i do gksudo
[18:30] <churchill> I am using Mint (please don't stone me), anyone know their channel OR anyone feel like helping with ndiswrapper issue at startup (as in, having to manually reload the drivers each time)?
[18:30] <orudie> soundray, i used phpmyadmin to drop the contents of the database without deleting the database name and rules
[18:30] <orudie> soundray, but i sure did drop the contents
[18:30] <soundray> doug_: please read the link and then mend your ways
[18:30] <hischild> churchill: only advice i can give is to add it in modules.
[18:30] <el1te> anyone know if the ubuntu installer lets you create a USB RAID0 set ?
[18:30] <soundray> !gksudo | doug_
[18:30] <orudie> soudso now its an empty database as it shows in phpmyadmin
[18:30] <hischild> doug_: it IS better to use gksudo.
[18:30] <sipior> letubenaiah: you mean for executables? echo $PATH
[18:30] <churchill> hischild: will see what that does , thx
[18:31] <ejer> el1te: sounds theoretically possible, alternate cd should do it
[18:31] <orudie> soundray, now its an empty database as it shows in phpmyadmin
[18:31] <Travo> ejer you there?
[18:31] <orudie> soundray, or according to it
[18:31]  * ejer pokes himself
[18:31] <soundray> orudie: so the net result should be an *increase* or a *decrease* in available disk space?
[18:31] <EthanL> Stupid question but; could anyone please tell me how to change font colour in Kopete? =p iv found several font colour settings but none of them seem to be the right ones =s
[18:31] <el1te> ejer do you think that cd will also let me install in tv-out mode
[18:31] <el1te> i got a funky configuration :)
[18:31] <orudie> soundray, should be the decrease
[18:31] <Travo> ejer: hey remember my issue earlier? I read somewhere to try to use gnome partition manager to get it going... any ideas?
[18:32] <ejer> el1te: that sounds more doubtful, but in text mode, yes it is possible
[18:32] <orudie> soundray, and the empty diskpace didnt change
[18:32] <ejer> Travo: i never really knew your full issue
[18:32] <el1te> hey text mode is fine with me
[18:32] <John117> Okay...  I have the drive shared.  I can see it on the network when I access with my Vista/XP machines.  Can i disable the part where it asks for a user/password?
[18:32] <bladerunner> here's a good one for any ubuntu-elite.  how do i remove all possible backgrounds in appearnce preferences.  I added thousands of images to the background section and now it takes forever to load so want to strip it back down.  at present I have to remove them 1 by 1 as you can't select all.  where is this conf file kept so i can cleanse it!!! lol! ;)
[18:32] <Travo> ejer: I could not get my drive to mount
[18:32] <el1te> as long as i can get installed ill do rest from there
[18:32] <soundray> orudie: it just doesn't make sense -- why should it decrease ( = become less)?
[18:32] <ejer> el1te: try and boot and see if tv-out works
[18:32] <ejer> soundray: cause he is dropping 8GB DB ?
[18:32] <gondim2> Hi. I'm having this problem with apache in Ubuntu 8.04: Apache is consuming more tasks because the increased time_waits. Someone could help? :D
[18:32] <orudie> soundray, ooops sorry, the empty disk space should be increased
[18:33] <el1te> when i boot now....post....before windows comes on...my post screen rolls pretty bad
[18:33] <orudie> soundray, i'm sorry i'm still sleepy
[18:33] <ompaul> bladerunner, well why not work it out, sudo updatedb ; locate picture-name-here.jpg-or-whatever and find out
[18:33] <soundray> ejer: he's managed to pull the wool over his own head *and* yours :D
[18:33] <orudie> soundray, so i should have MORE space, and i dont
[18:33] <ejer> Travo: give me some details, what type of drive, what error, how did it come about etc
[18:33] <Cobra2150> I just upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy and the only way I can get my comp to boot is to select the recovery option from Grub and then when it comes up to click resume normal boot, anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?  I am fairly new to linux.
[18:33] <georgia_> anyone know if theres any way to fix desktop icons after upgrading to 8.04? i'm getting an error "there is no application installed for this file type"  when trying to open shortcuts to folders
[18:33] <AngryElf> how do I force a second instance of gedit to open instead of a new tab?
[18:33] <ejer> soundray: i think it is obvious he means usage decrease?
[18:33] <Travo> ejer: internal ide, approx 30GB, ext3 filesys.
[18:33] <ejer> semantics
[18:34] <doug_> soundray:  and hischild then whn i do updates like sudo apt-get update i should gksudo instead? same as removing stuff gksudo apt-get --purge remove
[18:34] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: will that work?  don't want to remove the folder with images in.   I want to remove the entries in a text file
[18:34] <hischild> ejer: soundray, i've been watching it. It wasn't quite clear.
[18:34] <ejer> Travo: have you tried to use the gnome disk mounter to do it
[18:34] <letubenaiah> where can I change that search path for executables?
[18:34] <hischild> doug_: please read more carefully. When using GRAPHICAL apps you should use gksudo. For command line use sudo.
[18:34] <ejer> doug_: gksudo for GUI stuff, sudo for CLI stuff
[18:34] <ompaul> bladerunner, it will show you where the files are after that it is up to you
[18:34] <mikeooooo> where is xmms?
[18:34] <soundray> doug_: no. You should use gksudo with graphical programs. With apt-get, it doesn't matter whether you sudo or gksudo
[18:34] <repete> letubenaiah: use `which`
[18:34] <LaneLimited> orudie: So you delete somethig that was 8gb's and it didn't free up the space? I had that problem 300mb's from syantic manager.... gotta MARK FOR FULL REMOVAL or something
[18:34] <ejer> but i guess you can always use gksudo as long as gnome is installed
[18:35] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: don't think you understand me
[18:35] <Travo> ejer: error, http://pastebin.com/m19ba65b5
[18:35] <offload> Does anyone know how to enable or install the Compiz Screenshot Plugin.  I want the ability to screenshot just selected rectangles with my mouse.  I've read that this is available but not sure where to start.  Google kinda failed me.
[18:35] <soundray> mikeooooo: discontinued. Try audacious (a fork of xmms)
[18:35] <repete> letubenaiah: i.e. `which bash`
[18:35] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: I KNOW where the files are ;0)
[18:35] <orudie> LaneLimited, yeah
[18:35] <SliM1> pleaseee ;( how do i manually upgrade from a cd
[18:35] <orudie> soundray, anything i can try ?
[18:35] <doug_> see  i kinda am lost with the graphics thing.
[18:35] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: i want to remove their ENTRIES in a *.conf file
[18:35] <hischild> offload: install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable the screenshot plugin under system->preferences-> advanced settings.
[18:35] <letubenaiah> repete: doesn't that just tell me were that command will be run from?
[18:35] <kingvin> can anyone help me...how do i install vmware on ubuntu 8.04
[18:35] <steven__> oh
[18:35] <ompaul> bladerunner, ahhhhhhh
[18:35] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: ;)
[18:35] <Cobra2150> I just upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy and the only way I can get my comp to boot is to select the recovery option from Grub and then when it comes up to click resume normal boot, anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:35] <soundray> orudie: I think it's just a matter of waiting for the dbms to do its garbage collection
[18:35] <LaneLimited> orudie: I know what to do!  Find the file in your hard drive and delete it!
[18:35] <letubenaiah> I want to remove a certain directory from my search path
[18:36] <repete> letubenaiah: yes, very sorry, just realized I misread your question
[18:36] <soundray> orudie: alternatively, use mysqldump to back up the database, then drop it and restore
[18:36] <dug_> mikeooooo: I'd really recommend you use audacious instead of xmms, xmms had problems for me in gutsy
[18:36] <bladerunner> ﻿ompaul: but I suppose I could grep for that text entry.. but I haven't really got the hang of grep yet
[18:36] <ejer> Travo: looks like a serious filesystem error, you could try an fsck, but... if it is feasible, I would suggest a reinstall perhaps
[18:36] <MMM> so.. anyone know any tutorial how i actually do get redeon x300 working with 2 monitors?
[18:36] <repete> letubenaiah: you can customize the search path with ~/.bashrc
[18:36] <exp_> wine+foobar  =   FTW
[18:36]  * bladerunner goes off to man grep
[18:36] <dug_> audacious is practically a clone of xmms/winamp
[18:36] <hischild> bladerunner: grep <search> -i <file> iirc
[18:37] <ejer> exp_: eac works in wine too supposedly
[18:37] <Travo> ejer, could we check/repair from partition manager?
[18:37] <orudie> soundray, i dont need to back it up, i just want to delete/remove it completely so that i have more space
[18:37] <ompaul> bladerunner, perhaps
[18:37] <pavs> is it possible to change a file system after installing a linux syste,?
[18:37] <mikeooooo> do winamp skins work in audacious?
[18:37] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: I want to locate the word 1600x1200.jpg in a system .conf file
[18:37] <ejer> Travo: you can from livecd, or try UBCD
[18:37] <mikeooooo> and can i still control it through the command line?
[18:37] <Travo> ok
[18:37] <bladerunner> ompaul: no - _for_sure_!
[18:37] <ejer> bladerunner: cat file | grep '1600x1200.jpg'
[18:37] <mikeooooo> had it working with the extra buttons on my mouse controlling the playback
[18:38] <sipior> pavs: sure, as long as you have everything backed up...
[18:38] <repete> letubenaiah: what do you want to remove from your path?  Any why?
[18:38] <dug_> mikeooooo: apparently 2.0 or lower winamp skins will work in audacious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670058
[18:38] <repete> man, this channel is confusing :-)
[18:38] <Fritzel```> hmm irssi isn't too bad I think I could actually use it
[18:38] <repete> too much traffic
[18:38] <ejer> bladerunner: but that will just confirm presence of line, you could do nano file.txt, then CTRL-W to search and type your search and hit enter
[18:38] <pavs> how to check which file system i currently using in command line? I know I am using ext3 but I want to know in command line
[18:38] <jason___> MrObvious:  I'm back but my nick is still logged in lol
[18:39] <kingvin> HELP..can someone help me to install vmware on ubuntu 8.04
[18:39] <ejer> pavs: mount
[18:39] <soundray> orudie: have you tried restarting the DBMS server?
[18:39] <letubenaiah> repete: it appears that I've somehow added ~/mono1.9.1/ to it and it is running pkt-config from there instead of /usr/bin
[18:39] <bladerunner> ﻿ejer: i don't know what the file is called.  that is what I'm trying to find ;0)
[18:39] <dwxreaper> why does x-windows not work until you kill certain processes
[18:39] <ompaul> repete, well ask your question on one line, in one go, and then see if someone answers if not ask again in 15 minutes
[18:39] <Travo> ejer: I want to avoid reformating as best as possible. I got somebody to assist me in getting it set JUST RIGHT, with a compiled kernel and programs that have been finely tweaked, lotta hours put into this box that I know VERY VERY little about compared to ya'll guru's
[18:39] <ejer> bladerunner: what exactly do you want to do
[18:39] <MrObvious> jason___: /msg nickserv ghost nickname password will kill it.
[18:39] <John117> Okay...  I have the drive shared.  I can see it on the network when I access with my Vista/XP machines.  Can i disable the part where it asks for a user/password?
[18:39] <pavs> thanks ejer
[18:39] <letubenaiah> repete: so its using an older version than I need
[18:39] <ejer> Travo: get your expert back
[18:40] <hischild> bladerunner: uhm ... wait i think i have one for that
[18:40] <orudie> soundray no
[18:40] <bladerunner> ejer: find the system file that has all the entries for the background images you choose to add in appearance preferences.  logically this file shouold contain the image "1600x1200.jpg" somewhere in there so thats what I'm using to locate it
[18:40] <dug_> man edubuntu is an ugly yellow
[18:41] <letubenaiah> repete: the problem that I'm seeing now is that ~/.bashrc doesn't seem to have any path stuff set in it
[18:41] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: cheers ;)
[18:41]  * bladerunner keeps his fingers crossed
[18:41] <kesi> hi all since upgrade I can't get a theme to stick.  It works until a reboot or
[18:41] <pavs> edubuntu is beautiful
[18:41] <kesi> I open a new window.  Here' the error: /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: Invalid symbolic color 'tooltip_bg_color'
[18:41] <kesi> /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: error: invalid identifier `tooltip_bg_color', expected valid identifier
[18:41] <John117> ejer: Okay...  I have the drive shared.  I can see it on the network when I access with my Vista/XP machines.  Can i disable the part where it asks for a user/password?
[18:41] <ejer> bladerunner: cd ~; grep -R '1600x1200'
[18:41] <drivetrax> did you know.. there is a game engine in Ubuntu
[18:41] <bladerunner> ejer: cheers running now
[18:41] <drivetrax> You can build games
[18:42] <orudie> how can i restart my DBMS server ?
[18:42] <mattico> ooo impress on hardy opens slideshow files in edit and leaves edit open after the slideshow. I don't recall it doing that before. Any idea how one might banish/hide/bypass the edit interface?
[18:42] <nero__> hi guys i have a weird problem i installed new gnome themes and wallpaper etc everything from art.gnome.org but now my submit buttons or any buttons in html pages have gone white in firefox can you tell me which setting controls this behaviour????
[18:42] <exp_> anyone familiar with SDLMame i have a few simple questions
[18:43] <bladerunner> !ask | ﻿exp_
[18:43] <lobazo> ejer: but i don't want to split the flac
[18:43] <ejer> John117: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba scroll way down to 'Private and public shares in same config' - but easier to use a password...
[18:43] <John117> Just installed Samba and shared a drive.  Any way to keep it from asking for a user/password when accessing it from a windows machine?
[18:43] <scribawf> How do I make 8.04 (Hardy) recognize my PDA (PalmOne Zire72) - already verified Systems Manager for PDA's but still do not see mine when hot-plugged, any suggestions? Please
[18:44] <ejer> orudie: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart ?
[18:44] <John117> ejer: okay..  How would i set up a password if its easier? use my same ubuntu login?
[18:44] <ejer> yes John117
[18:44] <repete> letubenaiah: ok, well if you want to re-define your path you can add a line in ~/.bashrc liked "export PATH=$PATH:/opt/special/application/path"
[18:44] <exp_> I've successfully installed SDLMAME for Ubuntu AMD64 version.  I have found no shortcuts and cannot find the installation directory.  Anyone familiar with this program?
[18:45] <hischild> ejer: that command to bladerunner won't seem to function ... well not in a test on this end.
[18:45] <repete> letubenaiah: the $PATH at the beginning will use your existing path, and the "/opt/special/application/path" is just an example of a new path you want to append
[18:45] <pavs> how do i change my ext3 file system to rieserfs?
[18:45] <bladerunner> ejer:﻿ hischild:  no it doesn't
[18:45] <Travo> ejer: IT MOUNTED (sorry for caps)
[18:46] <repete> letubenaiah: bash searches the path in order, so if you want bash to find your binaries first, then put your new path _before_ $PATH
[18:46] <kesi> Help please.   Themes from Ubuntu-extras won't stick and give this error:/usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: Invalid symbolic color 'tooltip_bg_color'
[18:46] <kesi> /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: error: invalid identifier `tooltip_bg_color', expected valid identifier
[18:46] <letubenaiah> repete: so with that will I still have that already existing unwanted directory in the new search path?
[18:47] <letubenaiah> repete: and will I have to do anything else to make those changes take affect?
[18:47] <ejer> bladerunner: hischild sorry 'grep -R '1600x1200' /home/youruser
[18:47] <repete> letubenaiah: yes, but I'm unclear on why you want to remove any of the directories from the defined system path
[18:47] <ejer> bladerunner: or rgrep '1600x1200' /home/youruser
[18:48] <repete> letubenaiah: if you just have a custom compiled version of an application then you can append your custom  path before $PATH and that new binary will be used instead
[18:48] <hischild> bladerunner: ejer: i got this so far which will echo the lines ... just bugged at the files :(
[18:48] <hischild> bladerunner: ejer: for i in $(find ~ -type f | grep .conf) ; do grep 1600 $i; done
[18:48] <repete> letubenaiah: that is better than dinking with the system defined path
[18:48] <Travo> ejer: hd just needed to be repaired in gnome partitioner. All is well i'm booted into OS
[18:49] <ejer> good stuff Travo
[18:49] <repete> letubenaiah: you will have to logout and login in again, or 'source ~/.bashrc'
[18:49] <letubenaiah> repete: its because I think it I somehow added one that is not supposed to be there...and it is the first on in the list...its /home/benaiah/mono-1.9.1/bin...is that one that is normally there?  The problem is that I don't want pkg-config to run from there but from /usr/bin
[18:49] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: ejer: cheers
[18:50] <ar3ac> i have problems reading CDRW on my pioneer with hardy
[18:50] <Jokka> hmm.. all i have in console is < what to do?:O
[18:50] <indian_munnda> soundray: r u there????
[18:50] <ar3ac> someone can tell me if there is a bug ?
[18:50] <mikeooooo> audacious kind of sucks when i run audacious -f it opens a new one instead of controling the open one
[18:50] <repete> letubenaiah: hmmm.... If you don't know how to edit the path in the first place, I'm not sure how you would have added that path
[18:50] <mikeooooo> and says the gtk theme engine is broken
[18:50] <LaneLimited> Please how do i install normal audio drivers .... like a codec??? or sosmething  .. I have sound... but i know my speakers should be louder and my sound is not working on Zsnes at all
[18:50] <letubenaiah> repete: lol me either
[18:51] <bladerunner> is there any way to limit burn speed in brasero.  doesn't appear to be an easy option anywhere
[18:51] <repete> letubenaiah: it may be that some (mono-based) application you installed munged the path
[18:51] <indian_munnda> genii: r u there????
[18:52] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited: drivers are _not_codecs_: have you tried turning the volume up on your alsa mixer?
[18:52] <repete> letubenaiah: afaik, the current version of Ubuntu is using mono 1.2.6, so that must be an errant package
[18:53] <eaglestar83> hi my sound doesn't work correctly i heard there was a bug, should i reinstall alsa?  basically i can't open totem to play music when firefox is running many times.  i can't use more than 1 sound channel or something.
[18:53] <John117> ejer: I figured it out:  When you RC on the folder and set your sharing, you can select "allow guest" and it won't ask for a password.  Thanks again for your patience and your help.
[18:53] <eaglestar83> when youtube is on i can't play anything in totem
[18:53] <LaneLimited> bladerunner: sorry for bad example but when you install windows XP .. you go to device manager and search and install your audio stuff...... Is there a way to do something like that?
[18:53] <ejer> great find John117 good work
[18:54] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited: it does is by default
[18:54] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited: if you have sound - then it worked
[18:54] <LaneLimited> bladerunner: No  i havn't tried... will do that now.... but i still should of had sound in Zsnes??
[18:54] <mbarlow310> yo, anyone have any good examples of ubuntu server usage in corporations?
[18:55] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited: that could be any number of things.. have you searched google for bugs related to zsnes and no sound?
[18:55] <eaglestar83> any help
[18:55] <LaneLimited> bladerunner: i just got zsnes ...... does this emulator work with sound.....  I have used Zsnes on wwindows A LOT
[18:55] <mbarlow310> i'm using it here internally where I work on 1 prod server and 2 dev servers, but I'm hitting resistance from the redhat guys here
[18:56] <spanther> dug_, its child friendly :)
[18:56] <ejer> mbarlow310: maybe get started at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer look at links below
[18:56] <arakthor> mbarlow310: the company I work for uses ubuntu servers. that's the only stats I can give you though :P
[18:56] <cwillu> ah, redhat, the microsoft of the linux world
[18:56] <shane2peru_> help, lock ups on the computer are not impressing my wife, she want's gutsy back
[18:56] <mbarlow310> cwillu: haha, that's exactly what i was thinking
[18:56] <nanonyme> Hi, how do you disable Compiz altogether?
[18:56] <churchil_> anyone good with ndiswrapper ?
[18:56] <cwillu> shane2peru, what kind of lockups
[18:56] <danbhfive> churchil_: whats the problem?
[18:56]  * cwillu curses.  This is how he spent 12 hours in #ubuntu _last_ time
[18:57] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited: don't know haven't used it ;) sorry!
[18:57] <shane2peru_> cwillu, it just locks up, this last time the screen saver was on
[18:57] <ejer> nanonyme: system>prefs>appearance>visual effects = none
[18:57] <shane2peru_> cwillu, I think it may have to do with ATI drivers.
[18:57] <mbarlow310> this reminds me of the arguments i had at last company with the MS guys on trying (succesfully, i might add) to get the initial linux boxes in
[18:57] <churchil_> danbhfive: ndiswrapper loads winxp drivers just fine but loses the card on reboot
[18:57] <ejer> mbarlow310: as long as they are linux :)
[18:57] <letubenaiah> repete: I don't think I was using that version of mono for anything and it had a little uninstaller there so I removed it and that fixed the problem!  Thanks!
[18:57] <danbhfive> !ndiswrapper > churchil_ danbhfive
[18:57] <churchil_> danbhfive: the drivers remain.. when I open the GUI ndiswrapper, I see it sees the drivers, but the OS doesn't see the wireless card
[18:57] <nanonyme> Thank you.
[18:58] <bladerunner> ﻿LaneLimited:: there's alot of discussion about it on google! type "zsnes no sound ubuntu" in google.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103465
[18:58] <cwillu> mbarlow310, start calling it debian :p
[18:58] <repete> letubenaiah: np.  :-)
[18:58] <cwillu> shane2peru, what videocard model?
[18:58] <danbhfive> ﻿!ndiswrapper | churchil_
[18:58] <eaglestar83> any help
[18:58] <repete> letubenaiah: glad it wasn't more thorny than that ;-)
[18:58] <orudie> i'm trying /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u root -p mysql
[18:58] <doug_> !ndiswrapper | danbhfive
[18:58] <orudie> i get error no such file or directory
[18:58] <mikeooooo> so who is using audacious?
[18:58] <shane2peru_> cwillu, not sure on this machine, let me see if I can figure it out.
[18:58] <mikeooooo> and how do you get the command line options to work
[18:59] <mikeooooo> right now it just opens a new player instead of doing the command line options
[18:59] <ejer> orudie: what are u trying to do
[18:59] <eaglestar83> ﻿my sound doesn't work correctly i heard there was a bug, should i reinstall alsa?  basically i can't open totem to play music when firefox is running many times.  i can't use more than 1 sound channel or something.
[18:59] <orudie> ejer, start mysql lol
[18:59] <mbarlow310> cwillu: actually, i did, but the flack is there since our sysadmin just got rhat cert
[18:59] <orudie> ejer, then create a database
[18:59] <ejer> orudie: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server restart
[18:59] <cwillu> mbarlow310, 90% of what he got certified in will still apply :/
[18:59] <ejer> orudie: then go read mysql dox :)
[18:59] <danbhfive> churchil_: well, that page isnt helpful  :(   try adding ndiswrapper onto /etc/modprobe and also running ndiswrapper -m                   see if that works
[18:59] <orudie> ejer, that didnt work for me
[18:59] <wolferine> eaglestar83, had the same issues in the past myself, I just used a different media player, and we are all good :D
[18:59] <exp_> For the record I successfully got "wahcade" mame front end working on AMD64 Heron 8.04 working
[18:59] <ReleaseX> when I run firefox from the launcher and try to watch a flash video, it will crash, but if i launch firefox from the command line and watch the same exact video everything is fine
[18:59] <bladerunner> ﻿eaglestar83: i get this too
[18:59] <exp_> http://www.anti-particle.com/wahcade_dl.shtml
[19:00] <orudie> ejer, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart worked though
[19:00] <eaglestar83> yeah bladerunner you know any fix?
[19:00] <Davyboy> hello room.  i am trying to make this laptop suspend to ram and hibernate.  i found a howto explaining how to edit my etc/default/acpi however I am unable to save to this file.  I says I do not have permission.  How can I save this if I cannot log in as root?
[19:00] <shane2peru_> cwillu, here it is I think:   ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[19:00] <cwillu> ReleaseX, can you check synaptic if you have libflashsupport installed?
[19:00] <bladerunner> ﻿eaglestar83: nope
[19:00] <churchil_> danbhfive: they say something similar on a link to that page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#autostart
[19:00] <stoneDJay> Hi .. Im trying to remove totem from my system, but synaptic tell me about dependencies like brasero, gnome-games, deskbar-applet, etc... that has nothing to do with it!   How could I remove this crap app?
[19:00] <shane2peru_> cwillu, that was from lspci
[19:00] <orudie> i guess i need the mysql client do i  ?
[19:00] <eaglestar83> it is a pain in the a$$ because i have to close firefox whenever i want to play a sound file
[19:00] <cwillu> shane2peru, are you using the restricted driver (i.e., the ubuntu installed one), or something you downloaded and installed yourself?
[19:00] <ReleaseX> cwillu: i do
[19:01] <bladerunner> ﻿eaglestar83: it is strange
[19:01] <wolferine> orudie, there is a #mysql
[19:01] <shane2peru_> cwillu, I'm using the Ubuntu restricted ones, haven't downloaded anything .... ... yet. :)
[19:01] <doug_> stoneDJay:  apt-get --purge remove totem
[19:01] <cwillu> ReleaseX, it has nothing to do with running it from the command line or not then;  it's an open problem;  uninstall libflashsupport and restart firefox, and it'll stop crashing, but you'll probably lose mixing while any flash is open
[19:01] <shane2peru_> cwillu, would I be better off getting the ATI drivers straight from their web page?
[19:01] <wolferine> eaglestar83, use amarok, that should do the trick..
[19:01] <kesi> although nobody answered me, here is the answer.  It's a bug in HH: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-themes-extras/+bug/215472
[19:02] <Davyboy> can anybody tell me how to edit etc/default/acpi-support??
[19:02] <hexdrea1> Hi. I'm looking for help with a sound problem (Hardy Heron). Whenever I put the volume above say 80%, I get a high pitch whine (as if I was getting feedback from a microphone (No microphone is connected though). I am using a Soundblaster live with 5.1 speakers. Any help would be appreciated.
[19:02] <eaglestar83> wolferine why is that
[19:02] <cwillu> ReleaseX, there should be a proper fix in the next while (it's a bug in adobe's flashplayer that they're working on
[19:02] <doug_> shane2peru try envy it has ati driver install.
[19:02] <ReleaseX> cwillu: ok, thanks
[19:02] <cwillu> ReleaseX, go to https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-146 and vote for the bug
[19:02] <eaglestar83> wolferine you have the same problem as me before?
[19:02] <schitzo> hi
[19:02] <shane2peru_> doug_, what is envy?
[19:02] <wolferine> eaglestar83, more info pls
[19:02] <schitzo> interest
[19:02] <churchil_> danbhfive: "module configuration already contains alias directive" apparently
[19:02] <hischild> how can i check if the output from a variable is the same as another variable?
[19:02] <_coredump_> hi there, when using transmission or deluge for torrent download all other packets to the internet have 75% loss, anyone familiar with this problem?
[19:02] <stoneDJay> doug_:  Will be complete remove it?
[19:02] <hischild> !envy | shane2peru_
[19:02] <doug_> shane2peruit is for ati and nvidia drivers.
[19:02] <eaglestar83> wolferine i have to close firefox if youtube is running to play a sound file
[19:02] <wolferine> eaglestar83, not EXACTLY the same issue, but pretty close
[19:02] <eaglestar83> it is a pain
[19:03] <doug_> stoneDJay: --purge removes all of it yes
[19:03] <eaglestar83> because i have to close my tabs/firefox
[19:03] <shane2peru_> thanks hischild :)
[19:03] <danbhfive> churchil_: well, if those directions dont work for ya, then I dont know, sorry
[19:03] <k20a> would there be a guide on removing your swap? i have 4gb of memory so i don't need it
[19:03] <wolferine> eaglestar83, i got the point, now work on a solution :D
[19:03] <cwillu> shane2peru_, ^^^ what hischild said :p
[19:03] <churchil_> danbhfive: thanks anyways :)
[19:03] <Pelo> the new file transfer applet in hardy is realy making me question the transfer speed  to files to my usb flash mp3 player
[19:03] <ejer> k20a: u still should keep it
[19:03] <Davyboy> anybody?
[19:03] <k20a> ejer well i want to atleast resize it bc its 11gb
[19:03] <stoneDJay> doug_: So what about that strange depencies in synaptic, that packages will be removed also?
[19:03] <eaglestar83> yeah what is the solution? i am new to ubuntu
[19:03] <shane2peru_> cwillu, got it thanks, do you have a link to where I can read about it, or just google it?
[19:03] <eaglestar83> programming that is
[19:03] <eaglestar83> used ubuntu for 3 years
[19:04] <doug_> shane2peru_: envy is in the synaptics manager
[19:04] <ejer> k20a: the command is sudo swapoff -a
[19:04] <eaglestar83> but don't know how to fix things
[19:04] <wolferine> eaglestar83, are you able to read :D
[19:04] <Pelo> k20a, just make it smaller then,   apps actualy use the swap,  they need it to be there even if it is small
[19:04] <wolferine> !enter | eaglestar83
[19:04] <cwillu> shane2peru, google, but use the package in the repository if you decide to use it
[19:04] <shane2peru_> doug_, ahh, ok, thanks!
[19:04] <doug_> stoneDJay:  not sure . but it will remove the totem player.
[19:04] <stoneDJay> doug_: ok.. thanks...
[19:04] <shane2peru_> thanks cwillu doug_ and hischild
[19:04] <k20a> ejer thanks so what would to put it back on be
[19:05] <cwillu> mbarlow310, http://www.debian.org/partners/ might be a good starting point
[19:05] <ejer> k20a: sudo swapon -a :)
[19:05] <k20a> yeah i just wasn't sure cause i didn't know what the -a is for
[19:05] <doug_> shane2peru_:  do make sure u go to apps add/remove and click show all applications at top and type in hardware and get the two hardware drivers then install those as well.
[19:05] <hischild> Pelo: (1) i know. I've had some slow transfers to usb with hardy. (2) Would you be surprised if i don't have a swap file with 2Gb ram on one pc and 3Gb ram on the other?
[19:05] <ejer> k20a: all - instead of trying to figure out where your swap partition is
[19:06] <drivetrax> do you know.. firestarter.. it does not show as a process
[19:06] <shane2peru_> doug_, in synaptic?  what are you refering too?
[19:06] <d4t4min3r> im having problems with flash files im trying to watch online
[19:06] <ejer> hischild: u don't NEED swap (unless you run out of memory), but it will be faster with it
[19:06] <d4t4min3r> can somenoe help me
[19:06] <d4t4min3r> im using gnash and it just freazes up
[19:06] <d4t4min3r> doesnt really do antying
[19:06] <shane2peru_> doug_, oohh, got it, in the add/remove :)  Thanks
[19:06] <wolferine> d4t4min3r, please, kleep the post to a single line
[19:06] <d4t4min3r> is there something better i can use
[19:06] <doug_> shane2peru_ the system synaptic where u can look for stuff and install it via that.
[19:06] <hischild> ejer: if i open up all my tabs, it won't use any swap still. I decided my space would be put to better use not having one.
[19:06] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  what is FlashPlayer-( ?
[19:06] <obf213> has anyone had the problem with keyboard not working somtimes after a suspend
[19:07] <d4t4min3r> drivetrax: ? i dont follow
[19:07] <hischild> s/tabs/programs
[19:07] <shane2peru_> doug_, from the Applications -> Add or Remove right?
[19:07] <Pelo> hischild, I'm always ready to be corrected,  i need to learn stuff just like everyone else
[19:07] <ejer> hischild: it is there for a reason, but like I said, if u r happy....
[19:07] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  the answer.... flashPlayer_9
[19:07] <doug_> shane2peru_ yes from add/remove
[19:07] <stoneDJay> damn it... still trying to remove another apps... like brasero, gnome-games, deskbar-applet... etc.
[19:07] <d4t4min3r> drivetrax: how do i install that.. is it in add / remove programs
[19:07] <ejer> you will see speed improvements with swap, especially in file transfers
[19:07] <mike-ekim> Im trying to setup wireless, I have all drivers set up and recognized with ndiswrapper, and i copied an interfaces file from a working computer, but I am getting a problem with devvice wlan0
[19:07] <hischild> ejer: may i ask how much ram you use under normal use? I'm curious, as it might be much more them i use. I hardly go over 400 meg.
[19:07] <stoneDJay> doug_ damn it... still trying to remove another apps... like brasero, gnome-games, deskbar-applet... etc.
[19:07] <mike-ekim> i dont think the alias was created for it, maybe i missed that step?
[19:07] <hischild> Pelo: ofcourse a swap does have it's uses.
[19:07] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  be aware you may also have buggs wid flash
[19:07] <shane2peru_> doug_, I was already in synaptic, let me check that, and see if there are more things, I just chose envy-gtk and envy-core
[19:08] <pvandewyngaerde> where is the virtualbox kernel module for .17 ?
[19:08] <mike-ekim> is there something I need to do to make the wlan0 alias bind with the wireless adapter?
[19:08] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  -- multiverse... look there yeah
[19:08] <ejer> hischild: linux memory management is slightly complex :) I use about 8GB of RAM with not much running... but this is cached memeory, and hence a need fo swap
[19:08] <d4t4min3r> drivetrax: multiverse?
[19:08] <drivetrax> uh.. synaptic
[19:08] <doug_> shane2peru_: all of the envy packs u find in there
[19:08] <ejer> hischild: 8135940k used,    55416k free
[19:09] <hischild> ejer: i don't count the caching ;-) but now i understand. Thank you.
[19:09] <shane2peru_> ok, the qt ones too then?  doug_
[19:09] <doug_> stoneDJay: sorry no ideas other thn what i said
[19:09] <k20a> how do i find out my hd space in terminal?
[19:09] <doug_> shane2peru_: yes
[19:09] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  - are you using firefox?
[19:09] <ejer> k20a: df -h
[19:09] <d4t4min3r> yes
[19:10] <d4t4min3r> drivetrax: yes
[19:10] <Pelo> hischild, I have 1 gig of RAM and 2 gig of swap and I barely every use it , nor do I use my full gig of memory, but I'm not so bothered I figure it's there for when I do need it
[19:10] <shane2peru_> doug_, ok, thanks, I'm going back to synaptic, it is more familiar to me, or even aptitude. :)  Thanks
[19:10] <lobazo> how can i burn file flac-eac-cue
[19:10] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  use the version of firefox that comes with ubuntu.. or seamonkey
[19:10] <d4t4min3r> i am
[19:10] <doug_> shane2peru_: yw.
[19:10] <drivetrax> good luck.. gotta goo
[19:10] <d4t4min3r> drivetrax: i am but there is no flash... flash vidoes dont play
[19:10] <d4t4min3r> i need someething to play flash
[19:11] <mike-ekim> anyone any ideas?
[19:11] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  do you have the flash plugin for firefox also?
[19:11] <lobazo> how can i burn file flac-eac-cue?
[19:11] <stoneDJay> d4t4min3r:  flash player for web browser:
[19:11] <Pelo> lobazo,this is an audio file ? I think brassero will let you make audio cds if that's what you are looking for
[19:11] <DVS01> hi
[19:11] <shane2peru_> doug_, hey the envy-qt requires a loooot of kde deps, I'm using gnome, do you think I really need that?
[19:11] <DVS01> does ubuntu now use pulseaudio by default, instead of alsa?
[19:12] <drivetrax> DVS01,  One distro does..
[19:12] <mike-ekim> sorry got DC
[19:12] <DVS01> which one?
[19:12] <MartinCz> ﻿Hi. Please give me help with /etc/sudoers. I used this "﻿martin ALL = /sbin/yast2" but when executing "sudo /sbin/yast2" as martin i am askred for root's password instead of martin's password... What's wrong?
[19:12] <lobazo> i have six file .flac with a cue file and ripped by eac
[19:12] <d4t4min3r> stoneDJay: i see in my addons list shochwave flash
[19:12] <drivetrax> uh.. either k, or studio?
[19:12] <d4t4min3r> and
[19:12] <Koheleth> are there drivers for Hercules webcams in Ubuntu?
[19:13] <drivetrax> flash Player_9
[19:13] <drivetrax> not shockwave
[19:13] <d4t4min3r> thats it.. i install some gnash somewere but its not working
[19:13] <d4t4min3r> i dont see flash player how do i install that for firefox
[19:13] <ejer> DVS01: yes it is standard in ubuntu
[19:13] <danbhfive> d4t4min3r: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:13] <drivetrax> d4t4min3r,  get flashplayer_9 , and the firefox web browser plugin
[19:13] <rhizmoe> MartinCz: the '=' is for the machines the user can run the command on
[19:13] <lobazo> Pelo: coul i send you a screenshot of my carpet with the files?
[19:14] <shane2peru_> doug_, ok, I just installed them anyway, better now then later, thanks, gotta run be back later.
[19:14] <orudie> what do i need to run java -jar mwdumper.jar
[19:14] <wolferine> java :D
[19:15] <Pelo> lobazo, of your carpet ?
[19:15] <orudie> wolferine, aptitude search java returns a million results
[19:15] <spanther> lol wolferine  xD
[19:15] <wolferine> hehe
[19:15] <orudie> wolferine, which one do i need ?
[19:16] <spanther> orudie, are you using ubuntu? :)
[19:16] <hischild> !java | orudie
[19:16] <Pelo> lobazo, you want to make an audio cd ?  try with brassero in the sound/video menu, if that doesn'T work , install serpentine and try with taht
[19:16] <Cobra2150> how do i disable the quiet boot at startup in grub
[19:16] <hischild> orudie: there you go.
[19:16] <hwilde> Cobra2150, /boot/grub/menu.lst   take out the quiet option
[19:16] <spanther> orudie, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras then you have everything including codecs :D
[19:16] <wolferine> sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jdk
[19:16] <Pelo> lobazo,  I donT accept files from ppl I don't know sorry, put it up on imageshack.us if it is an image and give us the link
[19:16] <Cobra2150> i tried that, but it says i don't have access even though i am logged in as root
[19:16] <hischild> spanther: very funny. He needs the runtime, not a codec.
[19:17] <spanther> hischild, have you ever tried it? if so you would know that it installs the runtime also <.<
[19:17] <ReleaseX> when I open a dialog box such as save as in any program, that particular program will freeze for about 20 seconds and I can't access gnome-panel.  Other programs on my desktop will function fine
[19:17] <lobazo> Pelo: ok
[19:17] <hischild> Cobra2150: don't log in as root. There's no need for it.
[19:17] <hischild> spanther: it does not. I have that package installed, but i don't have the runtime.
[19:17] <spanther> hischild, ubuntu-restricted-extras installs java :/
[19:17] <spanther> i've read it while installing
[19:18] <orudie> spanther, ubuntu-restricted-extras has everything ?
[19:18] <Pelo> ReleaseX, start the application from the terminal and see if you get any msg about waht is going on
[19:18] <Cobra2150> when i remove ro quiet splash and then try to save it says i do not have the permissions for it
[19:18] <spanther> orudie, well flash and java and codecs hehe
[19:18] <offload> hischild, dude thank you
[19:18] <hischild> spanther: perhaps it did for you. Whenever i run java in console, it gives me a list of apps that contain it.
[19:18] <Pelo> Cobra2150, you need to edit the file as root ,   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:18] <hischild> offload: although i have no idea what for, yw.
[19:18] <orudie> spanther, dont think i need them codecs, my ubuntu is text based ?
[19:19] <xXNordsternXx> hey
[19:19] <spanther> orudie, ooh then just install java itself like others here said before to you :)
[19:19] <ReleaseX> Pelo: nothing
[19:19] <macattack2009> exit
[19:19] <d4t4min3r> what flash do i need now for firefox
[19:19] <ejer> Cobra2150: even better '﻿gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[19:19] <snavarrete_> I installed Ubuntu 7.10 in a new partition on my PC with windows xp. Grub does not show. when I turn my PC on, windows start automatically.
[19:19] <d4t4min3r> addon or plugin
[19:19] <orudie> spanther, too late lol
[19:19] <spanther> lol
[19:19] <Cobra2150> thanks guys
[19:20] <Pelo> ReleaseX, out of curiosity ,  what app is this and how big is thefile you are saving ?
[19:20] <d4t4min3r> what addon or plugin should i get ot play flash vidoes online for ubuntu
[19:20] <d4t4min3r> using firefox
[19:20] <hwilde> !flash | d4t4min3r
[19:20] <Pelo> snavarrete_, google for , download , burn and boot the supergrub cd ,  use that to fix grub
[19:21] <ReleaseX> Pelo: It happens in any application where i have to pull up a dialog box (Open, Save As, etc).  It's happened in firefox and gedit.  The files I'm saving are small
[19:21] <snavarrete_> thanks
[19:21] <ReleaseX> Pelo: and I don't have much in my home directory either
[19:21] <Pelo> ReleaseX, what are your computer's speck ?
[19:21] <ejer> ReleaseX: do you have network mounted drives?
[19:21] <shepclev> Do I need to open any ports in my firewall to RECEIVE files over DCC?  I thought it was only necessary to open my firewall if I wanted to send files.
[19:21] <chazco> Hi... due to stability issues i'm planning to downgrade to 7.10 from 8.04... is 7.10 still secure/maintained and will updates still be available reliably?
[19:21] <ReleaseX> Pelo:  Its practically brand new laptop
[19:22] <Pelo> snavarrete_, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[19:22] <hischild> ReleaseX: this might sound as a wierd suggestion/question, but are you connected to a domain by any chance? And does your hostname in /etc/hosts have a domain attacked to your hostname?
[19:22] <lobazo> Pelo: http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotcc1.png
[19:22] <ReleaseX> ejer, no
[19:22] <KL4RT> i was wondering if anyone knows a way to mount as NOT root? ive got a user called Gem who has sudo access but it keeps mounting as root? anyone know why
[19:22] <snavarrete_> xcuse me
[19:22] <ReleaseX> hischild, no domains
[19:22] <Pelo> ReleaseX, try turning off some of the eyecandy
[19:22] <ReleaseX> Pelo, already tried that
[19:22] <hischild> ReleaseX: could you please check if it has one in /etc/hosts?
[19:22] <ejer> KL4RT: sudo IS root
[19:22] <andb> KL4RT: -o uid=$UID
[19:22] <xXNordsternXx> hey there... i need some help... is there any possibility to use the icq with this programme?
[19:22] <spanther> i wonder if ubuntu 7.10 will be LTS too :)
[19:22] <andb> set the user id.
[19:22] <Pelo> ReleaseX, you still haven'T given us your specs
[19:22] <hischild> spanther: it is not.
[19:22] <KL4RT> andb: thanks so i just have to add that to mount command thank you
[19:23] <andb> yup, will take the environment variable for that user's id.
[19:23] <Pelo> lobazo, so they are just flac audio files,  did you try to burn them using brassero ?
[19:23] <leprasmurf> Are updates released for ubuntu 7.10 anymore, or are we forced to upgrade to 8.04 to receive any updates?
[19:23] <andb> you might want to set group id also. use man to look at mount manual
[19:23] <spanther> hischild, so how will i have this LTS after they brought out 8.10 ? cause ubuntu will update i think :/
[19:23] <andb> lepresmurf: 1.5 years
[19:23] <hischild> leprasmurf: it still supported so it will receive updates.
[19:23] <Pici> leprasmurf: 7.10 will continue to receive security updates for 18 months after its release date
[19:24] <lobazo> Pelo: i'd like to burn in wav for my cd-player
[19:24] <hischild> spanther: 8.04 is LTS. You can upgrade to 8.10 once it's released, though you are not required to.
[19:24] <leprasmurf> andb, hischild, pici: ty
[19:24] <ReleaseX> Pelo:  http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2007/Tempest/1014768R/1014768Rsp4.shtml, using hardy heron
[19:24] <spanther> hischild, so updater dont force me to?
[19:24] <jadewolf> Anyone got a suggestion on Free games for Ubuntu/Linux in general that are fun to play? I have Wolfenstien: Enemy Terr. and Anarchy online, but AO is kinda boring though I like the MMO lines out there.  Is there a website that might have info on linux mmos and games?
[19:24] <hischild> spanther: it does not.
[19:24] <cirkit> lobazo: Please install K3B. This will allow you to burn anything. Thanks.
[19:24] <spanther> hischild,  nice :)
[19:24] <chazco> So for now its safe to stick with 7.10? Then move to Windows when support ends.
[19:24] <hischild> !games | spanther
[19:24] <Pelo> lobazo, open brassero from the sound/video menu ,    look on the top left button on the first screen,  burn audio project
[19:24] <lobazo> Pelo: i can do that in windows with autoflac an eac
[19:24] <ville_> !movie
[19:25] <ejer> jadewolf: http://www.linuxgames.com/
[19:25] <Pelo> lobazo, I don'T know autoflac,  but check in brassero
[19:25] <ville_> I have a problem with video playback. When going into "fullscreen mode" the picture itself stays little. What for help?
[19:25] <mattico> Any way of mounting a NAS storage volume so that it becomes visible and accessible to applications that don't understand SMB?
[19:25] <andb> chazco, I still use 6.06, 6.10 and 7.10 will be on my machine for at elast another year.
[19:25] <hischild> mattico: mount it in a folder.
[19:25] <DRebellion> mattico, put it in /etc/fstab?
[19:25] <hischild> !samba | mattico
[19:25] <Pelo> ReleaseX, are you running  ubuntu as a VM or from the hdd ?
[19:26] <ejer> !info smbfs | mattico
[19:26] <cwillu> mattico, if you install gvfs-fuse from synaptic, you'll have a .gvfs folder in your home directory other apps can use
[19:26] <KL4RT> andb: thank you that worked like a charm
[19:26] <cwillu> ejer, smbfs is deprecated
[19:26] <staing> beginner here, can some one help
[19:26] <ReleaseX> hischild, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1623232d, that's what my /etc/hosts looks like
[19:26] <Pelo> staing, jsut state your issue
[19:26] <ejer> cwillu: what is new way?
[19:26] <chazco> andb - Hmm... so they tend to stay stable and secure then? I cant currently run Hardy (Firefox crashes, some evolution service eats 100% CPU and causes overheating, laptop wont boot properly due to a clocksource issue)
[19:26] <ReleaseX> Pelo, hdd
[19:26] <DRebellion> ejer, mattico, use cifs
[19:26] <ksoviero> staing, what?
[19:26] <staing> I want to find if certain files are installed, how?
[19:26] <Pelo> ReleaseX, no idea then , sorry
[19:26] <offload> hischild, it was for showing me where the compiz screenshot plugin was.
[19:26] <ReleaseX> Pelo, no problem, thanks anyway
[19:26] <cwillu> ejer, well, the gfvs-fuse plugin is ideal for most desktop users, otherwise a cifs mount is preferred
[19:26] <Pelo> staing, locate filename
[19:26] <hischild> offload: oh that. You're welcome
[19:26] <Guigui_> salut
[19:27] <mattico> You guys are stars. thank you all.
[19:27] <ejer> smbfs is in hardy
[19:27] <averagejoe> im trying to open one of my windows drives in 8.04 and i get this error message..."operation not supported mount is denied because ntfs is marked to be in use."
[19:27] <hischild> ReleaseX: looks fine. then i have no idea.
[19:27] <Pelo> staing, or if you mean packages,   look in synaptic ,  menu < system> admin < synaptic package manager
[19:27] <Guigui_> I'm french
[19:27] <staing> pelo, locate filename?
[19:27] <ksoviero> in gutsy my wecam was fast and reactive, in hardy its slow, why?
[19:27] <chazco> averagejoe - Did you hibernate from Windows?
[19:27] <hischild> !fr | Guigui_
[19:27] <cwillu> averagejoe, boot windows, run a scandisk, shutdown cleanly (not hibernate), and you sould be fine
[19:27] <Pelo> staing, open a terminal  ( menu > applicatiosn> accessories > terminal ,  type   locate and the filename you are looking for
[19:27] <ReleaseX> hischild, yeah it's weird
[19:28] <ejer> and cifs is not an application, so what do you suggest one uses? DRebellion
[19:28] <ksoviero> in gutsy my wecam was fast and reactive, in hardy its slow, why?
[19:28] <Matic`Makovec> Hey there. Would anyone have an idea where is this from? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10785/
[19:28] <averagejoe> chazco: actually what i thin happened was two installations of windows ended up failing on those drives because of a bad cpu I had at the time of installation...so that got stuck part way through...How can I format or repartition in ubuntu
[19:28] <cwillu> ejer, make sure you put my name in the line if you want me to see it :p
[19:28] <staing> pelo, i typed locate and the file
[19:28] <iMoleskine> hello, I know this sound like a stupid question, but my Ubuntu is in some Situation really, really slow. Too slow, in a strange way. Amd 64 3500+, 8.04, 2.6.24-16-386, and (that might be the problem) ati hd3850 with proprietery drivers. I already reinstalled them with envy. The problem is, when I for. example, Open a new tab in mozilla (already tried 2 +3 and Epiphany) the Music (rythmbox) hangs. If I don't do anything, with j
[19:28] <white_eagle> what is the best usenet newsreader for linux that you can recommend to me?
[19:28] <staing> nothing happened
[19:28] <Trae> my monitor is all messed up and auto won't put it back to normal.  I haven't had any problems with the old 7.10 Ubuntu.  I have Gateway flatscreen monitor
[19:29] <Pici> !best | white_eagle
[19:29] <ejer> cwillu: i know, was talking to dreb
[19:29] <Jewsus> .
[19:29] <Pelo> averagejoe, use the live cd , in the system admin menu,   gnome parttion editor
[19:29] <chazco> iMoleskine - Check in System Monitor if anything in particular is using lots of resources... evolution-data-server has a bug that makes it use 100% CPU for example
[19:29] <Pelo> staing, try this,  locate png , does it work ?
[19:29] <white_eagle> Pici: and any gtk one?
[19:29] <Pici> white_eagle: pan is all I know of
[19:29] <cwillu> ejer, and my bad, smbfs installs the cifs mount (just use cifs as the type instead of smbfs in your fstab)
[19:29] <daxroc> Evening all
[19:29] <Pici> white_eagle: I suppose thunderbird would work too
[19:30] <white_eagle> Pici: ok, thanks
[19:30] <staing> a how bunch of stuff went through
[19:30] <parsek77> is there a repo for daily compiled kernel?
[19:30] <aaroncampbell> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio or eclipse (the eclipse package installs via adept), I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[19:30] <Pelo> staing, ok so the command works,    those files you are looking for what are they ?
[19:30] <daxroc> Is python module for gtkmozembed in the repos ?
[19:31] <lobazo> Pelo: then the cue file it's important or not?
[19:31] <staing> pelo, these: # libbluez2
[19:31] <staing> # bluez-firmware
[19:31] <staing> # bluez-pin
[19:31] <staing> # bluez-utils
[19:31] <staing> # python
[19:31] <FloodBot1> staing: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <staing> # pybluez (also called python-bluetooth)
[19:31] <iMoleskine> no, just the system monitor with about 20 -30% (?), and the xorg sometimes has abou 40-50%. might be the ati driver?
[19:31] <Pelo> lobazo, cue files are usualy accompanied with a bin files,  it's a cd image, if you have both I guess you can try to butn that image,  but I donT' think that is the case here
[19:32] <ejer> Pelo: cue files are used in lossless music files sometimes to get a perfect copy
[19:32] <Pelo> staing, thoser are packages ,not files,,   go in  synaptic  menu > system > adminm > synaptic apcakge manager ,  do a search for bluez
[19:32] <Guigui_> je comprend que dal
[19:32] <jdavies> !fr | Guigui_
[19:32] <Guigui_> ui
[19:32] <Nostahl> is there a known issue with the restricted drivers for athero's in 8.04
[19:32] <Pelo> ejer, but are they necessary to burn flac files as audio to a cd ?
[19:32] <cwillu> mbarlow310, http://www.debian.org/users/
[19:32] <ejer> Pelo: they are not necessary, but to get exact copy of original, eys
[19:32] <ejer> yes
[19:33] <lobazo> Pelo: but what about pregaps and other information of the .cue?
[19:33] <Guigui_> WHAT IS THE SUBJECT,
[19:33] <averagejoe> is there a manager to format drives in 8.04.  I have to drives that wont mount
[19:33] <staing> ok, pelo thank you
[19:33] <Pelo> Guigui_, ici c'est un canal en anglais,  tape  /join #ubuntu-fr pour rejoindre le canal en francais
[19:33] <Pici> Guigui_: This is the Official Ubuntu Support Channel, see /topic
[19:33] <Pelo> lobazo, ejer seems to know more about his then I do
[19:34] <Pelo> Guigui_, ici c'est un canal de support technique pour un distribution linux  du nom de ubuntu
[19:34] <Guigui_> vous ne voulez pas demoi
[19:34] <crbversion1> hi
[19:34] <crbversion1> i really need help with repartitioning my disk
[19:34] <averagejoe> how do i format drives within 8.04???
[19:35] <Pelo> averagejoe,  gparted
[19:35] <averagejoe> crbversion1: me also
[19:35] <Guigui_> how to instal amule
[19:35] <Pici> Guigui_: sudo apt-get install amule
[19:35] <cwillu> mbarlow310, http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+redhat might be useful too :p
[19:35] <ejer> lobazo: I would do this: 1. flac -d *.flac (turn flac to wav) 2. open .cue in text editor and change .flac to .wav 3. open .cue file in k3b and it should allow u to burn
[19:35] <Pici> Guigui_: or use your favorite package manager
[19:35] <averagejoe> crbversion1: why do need to repartition or format a disc?
[19:35] <Pelo> Guigui_, menu > application > add/remove
[19:35] <yrlnry> My disk is being filled up with thumbnails in my ~/.thumbnails directory.  How can I tell the responsible entity (nautilus?) to not keep around so many thumbnails?
[19:35] <Guigui_> ok
[19:35] <iMoleskine> so no suggestions and nobody else with the problem of a damn slow ubuntu with an ati graphic card?
[19:35] <mistervino> How can I undo "remember what tabs are open next time you start firefox" in FF 3b5?
[19:36] <Pelo> mistervino, look in the prefs , in the edit menu
[19:36] <lobazo> ejer: ok i'll try it
[19:36] <averagejoe> pelo: what is gparted and where can i find it
[19:36] <Pici> iMoleskine: is there a reason you are using the -i386 kernel instead of the -generic one
[19:36] <mistervino> Pelo: I've looked it over 3 times.  are you sure it's there?
[19:36] <Pelo> averagejoe, sudo apt-get install gparted then look in the admin menu
[19:36] <grout> anyone else finding ubuntus main repo server very slow lately?
[19:36] <ar3ac> ragazzi c'e' modo di installare solo il kernel della gutsy su hardy =
[19:36] <ar3ac> osp
[19:36] <mikeooooo> hmmm
[19:37] <ejer> !it | ar3ac
[19:37] <Guigui_> when i instal limewire i haven't the good version of java
[19:37] <AnTaR3S> hi
[19:37] <Trae> what's this cloned screens?
[19:37] <Pelo> averagejoe, gparted is a partition manager for gnome,   ps you can'T parttion a live partition, you'l need to boot the live cd if you have to work on the ubntu partiton
[19:37] <crbversion1> i am trying to resize an ntfs partition but i get an error message :S
[19:37] <Trae> and again... I can't get my display to go into default 1680x1050 res
[19:37] <Kcaj> apt-get install build-essential linux-headers linux-source
[19:37] <Kcaj> WHycan't I do that?
[19:37] <Kcaj> Can't find linux-headers
[19:37] <Kcaj> I need to install drivers for an airprime card
[19:38] <Pelo> mistervino,  it's the only place I can think of , the preference dialog in FF is very large,  make sure you look at all the sub levels,  or try asking in #firefox
[19:38] <Guigui_> what is the version of Java for Linux
[19:38] <Pelo> later folks
[19:38] <doug_> ok seems i can help others with fixing there players but not my own i go to play a .avi music video and it runs real slow and no sound.
[19:38] <dholbert_> Kcaj: use Synaptic
[19:38] <lobazo> ejer: i have done that and nothing change "error: Could not open document!"
[19:38] <averagejoe> pelo: why are these damn partitions LIVE....HOW DO I NOT MAKE THEM LIVE, also i noticed the gutsy installation cd was live but not hardy heron 8.04?
[19:38] <dholbert_> kcaj: that shows there is no linux-headers package
[19:38] <Kcaj> what do I get synaptic on that?
[19:38] <joaopinto> averagejoe, lower your CAPS !
[19:38] <averagejoe> sorry :)
[19:38] <dholbert_> kcaj: System | Administration | Synaptic Package Manager
[19:38] <averagejoe> bad habits i have
[19:38] <ejer> lobazo: I see people successfully doing this with k3b on the web, so it should work.... don't know what else to say
[19:39] <Kcaj> then type linux-headers?
[19:39] <Kcaj> I just need some shyt
[19:39] <crbversion1> can someone pleeeeeease help me
[19:39] <iMoleskine> mhh. no there's no reason why I use 386 besides the fact that I didn't know what to chose, so I've chosen I already now. Never did anything with linux before, nor with 64 bit system. Whats the generic kernel, how do I get it?
[19:39] <dholbert_> kcaj: do a search for linux-headers in that
[19:39] <joaopinto> averagejoe, partions are not "live", they are in use, if you boot from a livecd you can resize them
[19:39] <doug_> how can i fix the video play back in hardy it is movie player and it makes the vid play back slow and no sound.
[19:39] <Kcaj> It looks like I got it already
[19:39] <dholbert_> kcaj: make sure you have it for the right kernel
[19:39] <lobazo> ejer: my k3b is 1.0.3
[19:39] <Pici> iMoleskine: install the linux-generic package
[19:40] <Pici> !generic | iMoleskine
[19:40] <dholbert_> Kcaj: run 'uname -r' to find what kernel you're running
[19:40] <crbversion1> when i run gparted, i attempt to resize the partition but when i enter the size of the new partition, the numbers just return back to the original size and i the resize option is blancked out !!!
[19:40] <crbversion1> any ideas?
[19:40] <iMoleskine> thanks, I'll try it.
[19:40] <Pici> iMoleskine: I dont believe that there are restricted drivers for i386, only -generic and AMD64
[19:41] <pilini> !desktop
[19:41] <pilini> !recycle
[19:41] <pilini> !trash
[19:41] <crbversion1> please help me!!!
[19:41] <averagejoe> is the 8.04 installation cd also a live cd?
[19:41] <dholbert_> crbversion1: you could try qtparted as an alternative
[19:41] <pilini> !trashcan
[19:41] <pilini> !bin
[19:41] <Pici> averagejoe: The Desktop CD is
[19:41] <pilini> oh god, i forgot how to move the recycle bin to the desktop
[19:41] <lobazo> ejer: do i have to open the .cue file in tools burn cd image?
[19:41] <joaopinto> averagejoe, there are 2 types of install cds, the desktop is, the  alternate cd no, it's just an installer
[19:41] <crbversion1> right, ok ill try that but is there no way that i can do this as root
[19:41] <ibleed> have there been a good number of updates to hardy since its release ?
[19:41] <x0rg62> hi
[19:41] <crbversion1> as in run the application as su?
[19:42] <joaopinto> ibleed, yes
[19:42] <ejer> lobazo: i dunno, never did it, I would try everything you can find :)
[19:42] <ibleed> thank you
[19:42] <x0rg62> what's up :P
[19:42] <dholbert_> crbversion1: what? you should run both programs as root, yes
[19:42] <ejer> lobazo: i am installing k3b to check for u but it is slow
[19:42] <dholbert_> crbversion1: you should run both gparted and qtparted as root, I mean
[19:42] <dholbert_> crbversion1: If that's not your question, I don't konw what you're asking
[19:42] <lobazo> ejer: or i have to put a plugin?
[19:42] <iMoleskine> hm. Well, the problem is, that I don't know were the problem is. Might be the drivers. Might be the kernel, for any reason. It's kinda complicated. I think the hardy beta was still working well, and the final doesn't. I can't remember.
[19:42] <titusg> I'm trying to get wireless working on a samsung q45 laptop with hardy, driver is iwl3945. But I can't get a connection...how to work out what's wrong?
[19:43] <averagejoe> pici: could i boot to a windows cd then partition those 2 live drives then just stop the installation...because i have no live cds...and these partitions are stuck live so i cant use them
[19:43] <bdude99999> anyone interested in creating a custom liveCD for me?  Iĺl pay 100usd for it
[19:43] <crbversion1> ok, basically i just want to be able to resize my hard drive but when i attempt this on gparted,the button is blanked out to resize it. i think, therefore, i need to run it as root but i dont no how to do this as a live cd user
[19:43] <dholbert_> averagejoe: I recommend sysresccd
[19:43] <Pici> averagejoe: I dont know what a live partition is
[19:43] <doug_> can anyone help me with my .avi playback being real slow and slugish with no sound.
[19:43] <ejer> lobazo: try 'burn cd image'
[19:43] <pilini> !recyclebin
[19:43] <dholbert_> averagejoe: http://sysresccd.org/Download
[19:43] <pilini> !trashcan
[19:44] <ryukun> titusg: I don't have any wireless problem with ipw3945 on Hardy. What's your problem exactly? Can't you connect?
[19:44] <Pici> !msgthebot | pilini
[19:44] <gamma-k> Hi there! Anyone know, how to clear data about recent files?
[19:44] <joaopinto> bdude99999, do it yourself :P
[19:44] <ejer> bdude99999: what do u need
[19:44] <dholbert_> averagejoe: boot off of that CD, then run 'startx', and that has gparted in its graphical environment
[19:44] <Crashed> Hey guys, is it possible to configure one of my dirs in a way that only my user can go into it?
[19:45] <titusg> ryukun: it just keeps asking for the password, going quiet for a bit, asking again...how could I start using a different driver?
[19:45] <Crashed> Or copy it, etc.
[19:45] <lobazo> ejer: it's says: "seem not to be a usable image"
[19:45] <bdude99999> ejer: i need it to auto boot into ubuntu, and auto load a custom .jar file ive written.  the user that it auto logins into must be a limited user, and not be able to logout or install programs.  then i haev a certain set of programs that i need to be installed on the cd
[19:45] <lobazo> ejer: and i can't start to burn
[19:45] <crbversion1> help!
[19:45] <caro_> ou suis je
[19:45] <crbversion1> please ... its been really annoying and i am new to linux
[19:45] <dholbert_> crbversion1: what?
[19:45] <_coredump_> Cracken226, create a group for your user and put only your user in it, then simply chmod -R 700 your homedir
[19:46] <dholbert_> crbversion1: ah missed your last comment
[19:46] <Crashed> Crashed :P
[19:46] <bdude99999> ejer:  i dont need anything fancy.  just basic.  but each of my attempts has failed
[19:46] <ryukun> titusg: my first suggestion is restarting your computer and wireless modem and to be sure of the password
[19:46] <dholbert_> crbversion1: open a terminal
[19:46] <crbversion1> yup
[19:46] <cwillu> crbversion1, alt+f2, type gksu gparted
[19:46] <dholbert_> crbversion1: yeah, what cwillu said
[19:46] <ejer> bdude99999: i could do it, but may take some time, join #bdude99999
[19:47] <juannicolas> Hi, this is a question off topic, can someone helo me on how or what to add in a bash script for a automatiq ftp get session. I would like to make my script to pull just the file with the current date in the file name? this is the standard naming convention of the files: Equipment_Inventory_05_07_2008_00_02_47.rpt
[19:47] <cwillu> crbversion1, if it still doesn't work, and you're resizing a windows partition, you'll have to boot back into windows, run a scandisk, let it fix any problems it finds, and then do a clean shutdown
[19:47] <titusg> ryukun: OK, I haven't tried restarting the router, I'll try that
[19:47] <dholbert_> cwillu:  / crbversion1: though I think gparted  *won't run at all* without root privileges
[19:47] <dholbert_> cwillu: so I think if crbversion1 is seeing gparted at all, he must already be running it as root
[19:47] <cwillu> dholbert_, ya, afaik, the menu entry has a gksu on it already, but ya
[19:48] <dholbert_> crbversion1: I'd open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[19:48] <cwillu> dholbert, uh
[19:48] <dholbert_> crbversion1: and then run "sudo qtparted"
[19:48] <filthpig> hi
[19:48] <filthpig> er
[19:48] <chazco> Hi... is there a chance of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/151536 - damaging the hardware of a machine?
[19:49] <chazco> heh, the bots clever :)
[19:49] <cwillu> chazco, only if your machine is already undercooled
[19:50] <chazco> cwillu - One overheats due to the room its in. The other is a laptop which has to run the fan continuously then eventually switches off due to heat.
[19:50] <cwillu> chazco, ya, that'd be a design defect in the laptop, which isn't helped by that bug :p
[19:50] <chazco> cwillu - It doesnt do it on Gusty/Windows...
[19:50] <gamma-k> Please inform me. Anyone know, how to clear recent files?
[19:51] <cwillu> chazco, if it's shutting down, then it should be okay (as long as you don't keep powering it back up), in that the hardware has a thermometre to shut down the machine before it _actually_ overheats
[19:51] <ratodemarte> im trying to install ubuntu 8.04 in my computer. my pc has sata hd and dvd and when i finish the instalation the compter doesnt start...
[19:51] <crbversion1> ok, running gtparted as root hasnt solved the problem
[19:51] <cwillu> crbversion1, is it a windows partition?
[19:51] <crbversion1> im going to get qtparted and see if this works
[19:52] <cwillu> hold up
[19:52] <crbversion1> yes
[19:52] <cwillu> okay
[19:52] <cwillu> reboot
[19:52] <FloodBot1> cwillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:52] <cwillu> into windows
[19:52] <cwillu> and run a scandisk
[19:52] <crbversion1> i have run chkdsk /f several times to no effect
[19:52] <cwillu> crbversion1, you need to do a clean shutdown though, you can't just hit the power button, right?
[19:53] <filthpig> where can I find an up-to-date overview of supported wlan cards/chipsets? !wireless in not very updated :s
[19:53] <Pici> gamma-k: Places>Recent Documents>Clear Recent Documents?  Is that what you are asking?
[19:53] <crbversion1> i have done a clean shut down after chkdsk twice
[19:53] <ratodemarte> i have a sata hd. where should i put the boot? at (hd0) as ubuntu default option or at my /dev/sda?!
[19:53] <cwillu> crbversion1, and it did a scan after the first reboot, while the computer booted, right?
[19:53] <jewjew> Does anyone know how to set the default action when printing a page with frames in firefox?
[19:53] <crbversion1> if i understand what u mean then yes
[19:54] <churchil_> !nidswrapper
[19:54] <gamma-k> Pici: Typical! Exactly what I meant. Too easy :| Thanks :)
[19:54] <churchil_> !ndiswrapper
[19:54] <grout> anyone else finding ubuntus main repo server very slow lately?
[19:54] <jewjew> grout: yeah, it has been
[19:55] <echogen> at last i was able to make the CD run
[19:55] <cwillu> crbversion1, okay, give qtparted a shot then I guess, although I've got suspisions that something else is wrong :/
[19:55] <grout> jewjew: ok just making sure it wasnt me
[19:55] <andres_> How can I add fonts when using photoshop with wine?
[19:55] <Pici> andres_: Have you tried putting them in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/ ?
[19:56] <andres_> i will give it a try
[19:56] <andres_> but can i use any font class
[19:56] <andres_> ?
[19:56] <Guigui_> metallica
[19:56] <echogen> i have a problem during installation, i have 1 HD with 3 partition, one of it has linux already installed, i want to install ubuntu on this partition, but i cant find anyplace where i can select what partition i want to install on
[19:56] <echogen> any idea?
[19:56] <joel> help please
[19:56] <Pici> !ask | joel
[19:56] <joel> i just killed my xserver
[19:57] <churchil_> furthermore..
[19:57] <echogen> joel: RIP
[19:57] <andres_> how can I access a .something folder ?
[19:57] <churchil_> shell?
[19:57] <echogen> cd .something
[19:57] <One_More_Time> re*
[19:58] <Pici> andres_: Press ctrl-h to view in Nautilus
[19:58] <hischild> andres_: press ctrl -h
[19:58] <jewjew> ﻿Does anyone know how to set the default action when printing a page with frames in firefox?
[19:58] <andres_> ok thank u
[19:58] <echogen> i have a problem during installation, i have 1 HD with 3 partition, one of it has linux already installed, i want to install ubuntu on this partition, but i cant find anyplace where i can select what partition i want to install on
[19:58] <titusg> ryukun: hi, I've restarted everything and it's just the same. I think I need to use a diff driver, ipw3945...? Do you know how do I install & select that?
[19:58] <joel> originally it was just changing the graphic-card-driver from "none" to "ati"
[19:58] <One_More_Time> merde
[19:58] <One_More_Time> planter
[19:58] <joel> then the resolution switched to 640x480
[19:58] <churchil_> tu as mal conjugue ca mon garcon
[19:58] <lusius> i need help in website coding : /
[19:58] <jewjew> !es
[19:59] <danbhfive> echogen: just select a partition to be mounted as root or /
[19:59] <joel> so i asked a friend for help and he said to make dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:59] <x0rg62> huu ?
[19:59] <echogen> it does not show
[19:59] <ejer> sup lusius
[19:59] <joel> what totally screwed up everything
[19:59] <danbhfive> echogen: keep looking
[19:59] <echogen> i have 1 HD with 3 partitions, i choose guided partiotion, i got only hda 80GB
[20:00] <andres_> how can I add fonts to photoshop with wine? adding it to /windows/fonts doesnt seem to work
[20:00] <lusius> ejer, = ) i have a formula whose data needs to be saved in a normal txt file
[20:00] <joel> the xserver worked again until i rebooted due to problems with the keyboardlayout (a simple "a" leading to a kill-pointer)
[20:00] <gordonjcp> andres_: have you added them so you can get them in X?
[20:00] <ejer> lusius: wrong place to ask really, but you can do this with php
[20:00] <joel> and since the reboot the xserver won't start
[20:01] <Kinetic> andres_ throw the ttf into fonts://
[20:01] <ryukun> titusg: what's the output of this command: lspci | grep Wireless
[20:01] <andres_> what u mean by that?
[20:01] <gordonjcp> andres_: well, can normal Linux apps see the fonts?
[20:01] <andres_> it doest work
[20:01] <lusius> ejer, errh urk urk :/ i don't like so highlevel langs, but i guess i could, -.- tnx
[20:01] <andres_> well I put it in windows/fonts so i dont think linux can see it
[20:01] <legend2440> andres_: the fonts go in /home/yourusername/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[20:02] <andres_> yeah i did that but it doesnt work
[20:02] <ejer> lusius: there are many ways to do it, php is just easy
[20:02] <titusg> ryukun: drat, how do you type a | on one of those things ? :-\
[20:02] <echogen> mmmm
[20:02] <gordonjcp> bleah, php
[20:02] <Zoohouse> hello everyone. I had Kubuntu4 installed, how do I remove it along with all the packages that go with it?
[20:02] <Zoohouse> I just want ubuntu installed now
[20:02] <legend2440> andres_.wine is a hidden folder
[20:02] <andres_> i know
[20:02] <andres_> i used ctrl+h
[20:02] <andres_> to see it
[20:02] <PMantis> Hello! I updated my 8.04 system today, now Totem can't play anything: "Failed to connect stream: Invalid argument"
[20:03] <lusius> ejer, ^^ okay, tnx then, i guess i just have to study some php ^^
[20:03] <ryukun> titusg: alt gr + < on my keyboard
[20:03] <ejer> lusius: for instance http://www.thefutureoftheweb.com/blog/save-data-file-with-php
[20:03] <ryukun> titusg: you can copy paste :)
[20:04] <lusius> ejer,  = )
[20:04] <titusg> ryukun: I'm typing on a different box :-)
[20:04] <shane2peru> doug_, after installing the envy is there anything else i need to do?  I rebooted
[20:04] <danbhfive> Zoohouse: if you want ubuntu, try this: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^                                           There are no typos
[20:04] <andres_> Isnt there another way to add fonts ? I would like to use photoshop without installing windows
[20:04] <lusius> ejer,  xD i feel ashamed asking xD i've programmed in java and c for some time now xD the web just isn't my turf, but tnx ^^
[20:05] <shane2peru> doug_, talking about the envy for the ATI drivers.
[20:05] <Pici> andres_: You can try asking in #winehq
[20:05] <andres_> ok thank you very much
[20:05] <ryukun> titusg: you can find info on changing drivers as well as other issues on wireless here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[20:06] <Zoohouse> danbhfive, I already installed ubuntu-desktop and via synaptic i already uninstalled kubuntu-desktop (Complete removal) but all the other K apps are still installed. Any way to remove them in one sweep???
[20:07] <daveyboy27> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH A JAVA ISSUE?!
[20:07] <lele_> ciao
[20:07] <Pici> daveyboy27: only if you turn caps lock off
[20:07] <daveyboy27> sorry
[20:07] <daveyboy27> didnt realise it was on
[20:07] <danbhfive> Zoohouse: did you try the command?
[20:07] <Pici> daveyboy27: Ask away
[20:07] <Zoohouse> ok I will try it now
[20:07] <daveyboy27> when i load runescape, firefox closes itself ;O
[20:08] <legend2440> andres_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Photoshop-CS2-on-Your-Ubuntu-PC-77260.shtml
[20:08] <Zoohouse> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:08] <Zoohouse> danbhfive, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:09] <danbhfive> Zoohouse: did it list all the packages?
[20:09] <Zoohouse> danbhfive, Example: hwtest is already the newest version.
[20:09] <Zoohouse> consolekit is already the newest version.
[20:09] <Zoohouse> xutils-dev is already the newest version.
[20:09] <crazyindian> daveyboy27: i have a similar problem with java on other sites but not sure it is java crashing ff or if its ff that is just crashing
[20:10] <Trae> hey guys.. I have a FPD2185W flat panel 21" screen and when it's in 1680x1050 it is half off the screen to the right.  This same screen was working with no problem sunder Ubuntu 7.04
[20:10] <daveyboy27> ive tried dif browsers
[20:10] <jewjew> ﻿Does anyone know how to set the default action when printing a page with frames in firefox?
[20:10] <danbhfive> Zoohouse: ok, you can use gtkorphan to clean up the rest.  Thats all I got
[20:10] <titusg> ryukun: lspci | grep Wireless gives me: 02:00 Network Controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[20:10] <THistle_Thorns> where would I find answers to how to stream to a shoutcast server using (what software) with ubuntu ?
[20:10] <iMoleskine> quite a stupid question again, but how are the progress-bars made? Cause it hangs everytime, a progress-bar appears. Stupid suggestion?
[20:10] <Zoohouse> danbhfive, thanks
[20:10] <Nostahl> what is a program in linux i can use to view wireless networks in my area? my wifi was just working for first time and i did a restart and now im not seeing any wifi networks in my area
[20:11] <Proteque> hello
[20:11] <titusg> ryukun: thanks for the link too, reading it now
[20:11] <ejer> THistle_Thorns: http://www.icecast.org/docs.php
[20:11] <THistle_Thorns> Thank You ejer
[20:11] <mog__> #archlinuxfr
[20:11] <Proteque> in ubuntu 8.04 on fresh install, Hardware Drivers say that ATI Fire GL is enabled. But status is Not in use. how do I make it "in use"?
[20:12] <ryukun> titusg: you are welcome. we have same wireless device. I use network manager 0.6.6 as it comes with Hardy.
[20:12] <shadowhywind>  hay all since i installed the beta of hardy during boot i no longer get the splash screen just a full text boot, any ideas on how to get the splash back?
[20:12] <ejer> Proteque: reboot or restart X
[20:12] <Proteque> ejer: I have tried that
[20:12] <titusg> ryukun: but it selected different drivers...?
[20:12] <Proteque> ejer: allso tried turning the enablemark off and on again.
[20:12] <Proteque> and then reboot
[20:12] <Proteque> no change
[20:13] <daveyboy27> anyone help me with java then?!?!?!?!
[20:13] <ejer> Nostahl: ndiswrapper?
[20:13] <ejer> !ask daveyboy27
[20:13] <ejer> !ask | daveyboy27
[20:13] <dholbert> daveyboy27: try adding a few more punctuation marks, and then maybe
[20:14] <CyD> anyone know if the ppa-ipod-touch amarok version needs to be updated? seems like gutsy's newest version is superceding it
[20:14] <Jezz> hi
[20:14] <essiy> /#linuxac
[20:14] <daveyboy27> ok runescape keeps making firefox java thingy and closes ff all on  its own?
[20:14] <daveyboy27> (sorry for bad english)
[20:14] <Jezz> is it possible to set diffirent wallpapers for diffirent workspaces?
[20:14] <ejer> Jezz: i think i answered that question from u hours ago ;)
[20:14] <dholbert> daveyboy27: what version of firefox?
[20:14] <Jezz> from me?
[20:15] <dholbert> daveyboy27: have you tried "firefox-2"?
[20:15] <Trae> hey guys.. I have a FPD2185W flat panel 21" screen and when it's in 1680x1050 it is half off the screen to the right.  This same screen was working with no problem sunder Ubuntu 7.04
[20:15] <Jezz> well i wasnt paying attention then :O
[20:15] <dholbert> daveyboy27:  (sudo apt-get install firefox-2)
[20:15] <Proteque> ejer: anything else I should try?
[20:15] <daveyboy27> 8im using ff  Firefox/2.0.0.14
[20:15] <dholbert> daveyboy27: (and then close all firefox windows, and do alt-F2 "firefox-2")
[20:15] <dholbert> daveyboy27:Ah ok
[20:15] <shane2peru> cwillu, after installing envy for the ATI drivers, do I need to do anything to have it use that?  or is it automagic?
[20:16] <essiy> #linuxac
[20:16] <ejer> Proteque: you could try a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:16] <daveyboy27> any ideas?
[20:16] <dholbert> daveyboy27: what's the URL that you load which breaks firefox?
[20:16] <cwillu> shane2peru, after you've run envy and selected the driver, do a reboot, and then you should be good
[20:16] <ejer> daveyboy27: likely it is java crashing, not FF
[20:16] <daveyboy27> i try to login on www.runescape.com
[20:16] <ryukun> titusg: I haven't changed my drivers
[20:16] <sinnlos> hello i will make connect my pc with a bluetooth headset , but i have this error: http://nopaste.org/p/aYmEvefSib
[20:17] <dholbert> daveyboy27: and it crashes when you login?
[20:17] <Nostahl> hi all what does it mean when it says wlan0 : no IPv6 routers present
[20:17] <shane2peru> cwillu, so I need to run it?  You mean via cli, envy and set it up, then reboot?  is that correct?
[20:17] <daveyboy27> yhes
[20:17] <daveyboy27> says
[20:17] <daveyboy27> lloading for 2 secs
[20:17] <daveyboy27> then ff closes
[20:17] <dholbert> daveyboy27: Has this ever worked for you, on ubuntu?
[20:17] <cwillu> shane2peru, pretty much, yep
[20:17] <daveyboy27> yes
[20:17] <daveyboy27> worked earlier today
[20:17] <shane2peru> cwillu, ok, thanks!
[20:17] <FloodBot1> daveyboy27: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <Fritzel> is noexec=off a legitimate boot option for disabling dep?
[20:17] <dholbert> daveyboy27: any idea what changed?
[20:17] <daveyboy27> havent changed anything
[20:18] <MartinCz> Hi. Is there sometginh like YAST in ubuntu???
[20:18] <PMantis> I installed 8.04 yesterday, grabbed updates today, now Rhythmbox, Totem, etc cannot play any sounds... some 'failed to get stream" message.
[20:18] <mistiipu> iam on a server that shares internet to 2 computers. i want to limit their bandwidth to 20k/s jointly pc1+pc2=20k/s and give them priority to my persoanal internet use on server.  secondly i dont want any of the two pcs suck all the bandwidth (by excesive downloading at a time or by torrents) and drain the others pcs band. (out of 20k/s). "i dont want any 3rd distro or another router. i use linux and want it to route".
[20:18] <mistiipu> i think i need the tc command? where to read about it. and what else i need? thirdly i want to moniter each pc what he is doing. sniff internet. keep detailed records. (if he does any illegal activity eg.) see gui graphic speed graphs. etc. any app or guidance please?
[20:18] <dholbert> MartinCz: Not one catch-all configuration tool
[20:19] <dholbert> MartinCz: But everything YAST does is largely in System Menu under "Administration"
[20:19] <dholbert> MartinCz: any function you're looking for in particular?
[20:19] <MartinCz> I am looking for some terminal utility for central management...
[20:20] <dholbert> MartinCz: terminal utility?
[20:20] <daveyboy27> any ideas?
[20:20] <dholbert> MartinCz:  Alt-Ft, "gnome-terminal" ?
[20:20] <MartinCz> I mean... for console
[20:20] <dholbert> MartinCz: I don't understand
[20:20]  * Fritzel immediately thought of a program that was dying 
[20:20] <MartinCz> I mean console application for central settings management.
[20:20] <MartinCz> :)
[20:20] <Rafase282> hello, someone please tell me how i can fix this? http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/6332/screenshotxq3.png
[20:20] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I make it so titlebars on inactive windows aren't see through?
[20:20] <titusg> ryukun: if I run ifconfig it says somehing called wlan0:avahi has an IP address! wlan0 does not
[20:21] <dholbert> MartinCz: There are different utilities for different things to manage.  As I said, there's no one utility to manage everything
[20:21] <titusg> ryukun: there is also a device called wmaster0, confusingly
[20:21] <ejer> MartinCz: the terminal is a management utility, you need to know what commands and files to change for what you want
[20:21] <averagejoe> how come gparted wont let me format in ntfs...what are my other options so i can share the files with windows xp and vista?
[20:21] <Fritzel> is noexec=off a legitimate boot option for disabling dep?
[20:21] <Mpakas> how can i connect to another server without disconnecting form "the active" server?
[20:21] <ikonia> Fritzel: dep ?
[20:21] <ejer> averagejoe: fat32
[20:22] <Mpakas> from*
[20:22] <krammer> what is the difference between ubutun and debian
[20:22] <Fritzel> Data Execution Protection (or prevention or something)
[20:22] <dholbert> Ah, averagejoe -- were you trying to resize a NTFS partition before?
[20:22] <cwillu> Fritzel, are you running in to a particular problem?
[20:22] <Fritzel> ikonia, ^
[20:22] <averagejoe> ejer: whats ex2 and ex3 and swap?  I know those are linux things
[20:22] <dholbert> when it wasn't letting you?
[20:22] <MartinCz> Ok. I just asked :-)
[20:22] <Mpakas> how can i connect to another server without disconnecting from "the active" server?
[20:22] <ejer> averagejoe: filesystems
[20:23] <cwillu> averagejoe, swap is the same thing as the windows swap file, ext2 and 3 are filesystems like fat or ntfs
[20:23] <Pici> Mpakas: /connect rather than /server
[20:23] <averagejoe> can windows read ex2 or ex3?
[20:23] <Fritzel> ikonia, cwillu, yes I have intermittant crashes in warcraft 3 under wine, however they're windows crashes not wine crashes, some basic research suggested DEP can cause my symptom, I'm trying to rule it out
[20:23] <bamed> averagejoe: not without third part drivers
[20:24] <ryukun> titusg: you can try "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and enable wlan0, disabling wlan ahiva. please take a backup first. by the way I have a wmaster0 output too in my iwconfig. it doesnt have any wireless extensions.
[20:24] <ejer> Rafase282: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=242936 right above "the grande finale"
[20:24] <averagejoe> ok fat32 ftw...is fat32 slower than ntfs or whatever...and why can i format in ntfs because cant 8.04 read and write to it now?
[20:24] <CyD> averagejoe: i think a google search for 'format ntfs linux' might help you
[20:24] <arakthor> what ports does apt-get use?
[20:25] <CyD> averagejoe: i think it's 'mkfs.ntfs' but probably not
[20:25] <ejer> averagejoe: fat32 sucks, but it is only real choice for multiOS access
[20:25] <cwillu> ikonia, sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor stop is kinda what you're looking for
[20:25] <cwillu> bah
[20:25] <cwillu> averagejoe, ^^^
[20:25] <Fritzel> ikonia, cwillu, so basically I'm just looking for the boot parameter to disable DEP
[20:25] <cwillu> bah bah bah
[20:25] <FloodBot1> cwillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <cwillu> Fritzel, ^^^
[20:25] <bamed> if you really want ntfs, format it from windoze
[20:25] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I make it so titlebars on inactive windows aren't see through?
[20:25] <CyD> ejer: i prefer ntfs to fat32 since gutsy
[20:25] <lobazo> ejer: please help me
[20:25] <bogey-> !ask lobazo
[20:26] <mysterycool> I am trying to download Glade but it says the 503 error (that one which says that the service is unavailable)
[20:26] <Mpakas> ntfs FTW
[20:26] <churchil_> is there a way to stop the keyring from always asking password when connecting via wireless?? I am trying to automate the startup
[20:26] <Mpakas> fat32 is for windoze 98
[20:26] <Vikketorr> how to install java for firefox?
[20:26] <lobazo> ejer: it's the same problem withe cue-eac-flac
[20:26] <Mpakas> and it is slow rather than NTFS
[20:26] <Fritzel> cwillu, the apparmor was for me?
[20:26] <cwillu> yes
[20:26] <averagejoe> ejer: why does fat32 suck compared to ntfs?
[20:26] <cwillu> Mpakas, ...and thumbdrives :p
[20:26] <Mpakas> xixxi
[20:27] <ejer> averagejoe: for one, 2GB file size limit
[20:27] <churchil_> averagejoe: i think it's not journaled also
[20:27] <lobazo> ejer: why i can't burn the image .cue en k3b?
[20:27] <CyD> actually mkntfs should work fine
[20:27] <Veliouras> hi
[20:27] <ejer> already told ya lobazo you can :)
[20:27] <cwillu> averagejoe, limits on max filesize and partition size, requirement (in a particularily bad way) for defragmentation, no real support for permissions, file ownership, etc
[20:27] <Veliouras> i have a problem with a wireless usb stick
[20:27] <averagejoe> cyD: can i do that with Gparted?
[20:27] <ejer> but I personally would not trust working extensively on ntfs in linux, note I said personally ;)
[20:27] <Fritzel> cwillu, I'm trying to make this as simple as I can and I would prefer to disable it temporarily at boot do you no if noexec=off is a legitimate kernel parameter?
[20:28] <CyD> averagejoe: if you have ntfsprogs installed, gparted should be able to
[20:28] <spanther> cwillu, who cares about file ownership and such stuff you want to share stuff and because of this you put it on a fat32 usb stick so its nice when you can read it everywhere without hassle :)
[20:28] <Fritzel> cwillu, I appreciate that answer however it doesn't give me a feeling of completely off, I know I'm stubborn ^^
[20:28] <CyD> see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97698 for a start reference averagejoe
[20:28] <lobazo> ejer: in k3b says: seems not to be a usable image
[20:28] <slyboots> Hello, Got a odd issue with a Apple remote and a MacBook pro
[20:28] <cwillu> spanther, if this is for a thumbdrive, then use fat32
[20:28] <averagejoe> cyD: thanks
[20:28] <ejer> lobazo: i know, maybe that is your real problem?
[20:28] <CyD> :)
[20:28] <majikins> hi I'm having trouble setting up a local repository
[20:28] <spanther> cwillu,  yup :)
[20:28] <slyboots> I had to alter the ID string in the module.h file and install it, did that and the remote worked..
[20:28]  * Mpakas is from greece
[20:28] <cwillu> Fritzel, try it first, and then you can try the kernel switch :p
[20:28] <Nostahl> hi all i just got my wifi working and now i restarted everythings still recognized and such but i cannot find any ssid's   any help?
[20:29] <slyboots> But as soon as I rebooted the remote *stopped* working
[20:29] <majikins> I think it has to do with permissions
[20:29] <majikins> I've installed apache2
[20:29] <Fritzel> cwillu, the crash takes from 30 seconds to 2+ hours I really want to be certain before running the test
[20:29] <majikins> and did a link to my local repo
[20:29] <slyboots> It seems to be accepting input (if I run cat or od on the /dev I can see the input) but nothing else works
[20:29] <arakthor> are the repositories for ubuntu broken in some way? updates, upgrades have been regularly (but usually only partially) failing for the last week or so
[20:29] <mysterycool> Hey, ok, so with Glade I just layout my application or is there coding too? Or do I have to use a seperate IDE program?
[20:29] <sinnlos> nowhere one that know about bluetooth ?
[20:29] <mysterycool> !glade
[20:29] <cwillu> Fritzel, do you have a stack trace or anything?
[20:29] <mysterycool> !wireless
[20:30] <cwillu> Fritzel, run it from a terminal, and pipe the output somewhere
[20:30] <mysterycool> !wireless | sinnlos
[20:30] <mysterycool> =]
[20:30] <majikins> but now I get permission denied when I try to test on browser
[20:30] <mysterycool> =]
[20:30] <sinnlos> ha ha
[20:30] <majikins> even if I gksudo firefox and look at link
[20:30] <cwillu> Fritzel:  wine ~/.wine/path/to/wow.exe > ~/wow-troubleshooting.txt
[20:30] <majikins> can someone help pls?
[20:30] <Fritzel> cwillu, that won't help it's succesfully crashing,
[20:30] <mysterycool> majikins: What do you need help with?
[20:31] <Trae> are the servers slammed?  It's taking forever to load things.  Plus what is considered "Universe" in 8.04 ?
[20:31] <Fritzel> cwillu, to wine is correctly showing a windows error, wine is stull fully functional
[20:31] <Rafase282> i dont have those options
[20:31] <cwillu> Fritzel, it'll spit out a bunch of debugging info at the same time
[20:31] <Rafase282> ejer
[20:31] <Mimi> ~  Question  ~  How can I install KDE, but  *not* the "junk" it comes with?
[20:31] <ejer> Rafase282
[20:31] <Fritzel> cwillu, -nod- I'll give it a shot I suppose it couldn't hurt
[20:31] <cwillu> Fritzel, and having the exact (down to the letter) windows error messages aer useful too :)
[20:32] <Veliouras> i have a problem with a wireless usb stick.... i installed it with ndiswrapper, i see the wireless connection active but i am not automatically connected to the internet when i start the pc
[20:32] <Fritzel> cwillu, that I can help with, http://hollis.no-ip.org/~mhollisjr/images/warcraft3-onsave.jpg
[20:32] <t1n0m3n> I am going to "smb://myserver/c$/folder/another/"  in this folder I have 34 directories.  If I add one more directory, I can no longer display the directory in Ubuntu.  Any insight as to why this is happening?  The error is: The folder contents could not be displayed.  Sorry, couldn't display all of the contents of "another": Invalid argument."  The "Server" is Windows XP.
[20:32] <cwillu> Veliouras, what kind of stick?
[20:32] <Veliouras> cwillu, netgear wpn111
[20:32] <Nostahl> im having a wifi problem too i cannot see any ssid's on my ubuntu laptop
[20:32] <lobazo> ejer: is there a k3b irc-chat?
[20:32] <Trae> thank you ubottu lol
[20:32] <Nostahl> but the mac laptop is connecting fine
[20:32] <CyD> Veliouras: does ndiswrapper start on boot to your knowledge, or do you have to modprobe it?
[20:32] <Mimi> Trae:  if your repo download is slow, go to Software Sources, and it can search for the fastest site there
[20:32] <Trae> Mimi, got it ;)
[20:33] <Veliouras> CyD i don't know
[20:33] <Trae> Mimi, Ubottu loves me
[20:33] <cwillu> Veliouras, one sec
[20:33] <daveyboy27> whats the best p2p software for linux to download music from?
[20:33] <Veliouras> ok
[20:33] <cwillu> Fritzel, that's not a dep error though :/
[20:33] <CyD> Veliouras: ok so you just have to manually select your connection each time you start the pc?
[20:33] <slyboots> Ahhh Im getting a headache, this is very frustrating
[20:33] <cwillu> Fritzel, it's the same thing as a linux segfault
[20:33] <Optimus55> hi
[20:33] <docente> Hi room
[20:33] <Fritzel> cwillu, I know that, but the research I've done suggests that dep can cause that particular non-dep error
[20:33] <docente> i new from Nicaragua
[20:33] <daveyboy27> whats the best p2p software for linux to download music from?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!
[20:33] <cwillu> Fritzel, nope :"p
[20:33] <majikins> hello can someone help me with a permissions problem for showing a local repo on my browser pls
[20:34] <Optimus55> daveyboy27: frostwire
[20:34] <Veliouras> CyD that's correct. but because i am not a linux expert i have to improvise each time! :)
[20:34] <CyD> daveyboy27: limewire?
[20:34] <Trae> Mimi, what's considered "Universe" these days?
[20:34] <daveyboy27> kk
[20:34] <cwillu> Fritzel, one sec
[20:34] <Optimus55> daveyboy27: there's also cabos, i think theres a nix version as well
[20:34] <cschneid> How do I setup 3 monitors (laptop screen, 2 desktop screens) so that if the 2 desktop screens are present, I use both of them, if they aren't, I use just the laptop screen?
[20:34] <Fritzel> cwillu, well my alternative is to keep getting frustrated at the game waiting for someone to update the bug on winehq, so if I can try disabling DEP at least I can feel like I'm doing something
[20:34] <CyD> Veliouras: is this as simple as clicking on networkmanager and choosing your wireless, or by improvise do you mean you have to do other steps?
[20:35] <Mimi> Mmm Trae I *think* it's   ... Universe (community-maintained, i.e. not officially supported software)
[20:35] <Fritzel> cwillu, -nod-
[20:35] <cwillu> Fritzel, then run the command I told you (sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor stop)
[20:35] <Mimi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[20:35] <Fritzel> cwillu, I did, well I used invoke-rc.d  but it's off,
[20:35] <Mimi> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components  ( scrool down and there's  more detail on Universe)
[20:36] <Fritzel> cwillu, what is apparmor anyway?
[20:36] <Mimi> Google it :p
[20:36] <cwillu> Fritzel, basically, it's dep for linux
[20:36] <Mimi> @&#^@# xD
[20:36] <Veliouras> CyD, when I do this, most of the times I don't get connected. I have also saved a profile for the connection and this works most of the times. but i'd like to have it connect automatically
[20:36] <arakthor> anybody know what would cause getting the headers for packages to hang when using apt-get?
[20:36] <cwillu> address randomization as well
[20:36] <doug_> well thanks everyone for the help not.
[20:36] <cwillu> which has caused issues before
[20:36] <majikins> anyone?
[20:36] <averagejoe> whats the difference between a primary and an extended partition...does it matter when im formating
[20:37] <macd> arakthor, the repositories are just slow right now, try again in a short time
[20:37] <Optimus55> averagejoe: you can only have 4 primary partitions
[20:37] <CyD> averagejoe: you can only have 4 primaries. if you need more than 4, create an extended and put logical parts inside it
[20:37] <Optimus55> ^ right
[20:37] <Fritzel> cwillu, -nod- alright well to completely duplicate the test I need to run full screen and warcraft 3 doesn't like to let something else on top of it so I'll get back to you in 30 seconds - 2+ hours
[20:37] <arakthor> macd: thanks
[20:37] <ejer> majikins: your question does not make sense
[20:37] <Vikketorr> how do i install java for firefox
[20:37] <Vikketorr> ?
[20:37] <cwillu> Fritzel, heh, k.  just /msg me
[20:37] <dholbert> Vikketorr: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[20:37] <majikins> arakthor:
[20:38] <Fritzel> cwillu, -nod-
[20:38] <Vikketorr> k
[20:38] <peepsalot> where is the trash folder in hardy?
[20:38] <Mimi>  ~ Question ~ 1) How can I install KDE without installing all the extra "junk" it comes with, and 2) When I click the USB Drive to mount it, I get "Permission Denied"  -- This is what is on my fstab /dev/sdb1 /media/USB\040Drive ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[20:38] <Mimi> peepsalot:   home/username/.trash
[20:38] <majikins> I'm trying to get my local repos to be seen via my browser
[20:38] <averagejoe> cyD: I have 7 hard drives...so i should prob make it extended
[20:38] <majikins> I've been following a howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782162&highlight=debmirror
[20:38] <CyD> anyone know if ppa-ipod-touch version of amarok is needing updating? gutsy's version is superceding it here..
[20:38] <dholbert> averagejoe: they were talking *per* hard drive
[20:38] <peepsalot> Mimi, that directory does not exist
[20:38] <dholbert> averagejoe: so if you have <=4 partitions on 1 hard drive, just make them primary
[20:39] <t1n0m3n> ﻿I am going to "smb://myserver/c$/folder/another/"  in this folder I have 34 directories.  If I add one more directory, I can no longer display the directory in Ubuntu.  Any insight as to why this is happening?  The error is: The folder contents could not be displayed.  Sorry, couldn't display all of the contents of "another": Invalid argument."  The "Server" is Windows XP.  I am running Ubuntu 8.04.  All other directories display fine.
[20:39] <cwillu> Veliouras, sorry;  it runs an atheros chipset, which I don't have much experience with
[20:39] <Mimi> peepsalot:   on the file browser go to  GO>Trash (menu at the top_)
[20:39] <ejer> Mimi: why do u have an fstab entry for your usb stick
[20:39] <majikins> when I test to see that I can see the repos via my browser I get permission denied
[20:39] <dholbert> peepsalot: ~/.local/share/Trash
[20:39] <Veliouras> cwillu u r right on the atheros chipset
[20:39] <ejer> majikins: URL?
[20:39] <legend2440> peepsalot: /home/username/.local/share/Trash/files
[20:39] <averagejoe> dholbert: oh ya partitions my bad
[20:39] <Mimi> ejer:  because I'm sofa king sick of having to mount it everytime I login?
[20:40] <Mathman> t1n0m3n: beats me, but I suppose you could always go with mount.cifs or something
[20:40] <peepsalot> thanks dholbert, legend2440
[20:40] <ejer> Mimi: my usb keys mount automagically
[20:40] <majikins> http://localhost/repos/
[20:40] <Mimi> ejer:  Good to know, but mine doesn't
[20:40] <Veliouras> are there any suggestions for a wireless usb stickthat is suitable for ubuntu?
[20:40] <ejer> Mimi: well it should, and since you put it in fstab you can no longer use gnome-mount
[20:41] <cwillu> Veliouras, anything with a zd1211 chipset should work fine
[20:41] <majikins> if I do http://localhost/ I get a page saying successful so I know apache is working
[20:41] <Mimi> ejer:  Everytime I go on banshee to listen to my music, it doesnt play anything because the music "is not there", becacuse the drive isnt mounted. OOPSY i guess it doesnt mount
[20:41] <Fritzel> cwillu, er I forgot to ask, what debug options would you think I should put on to get the information you're looking for
[20:41] <cwillu> Veliouras, (they're usually the cheapest too :p)
[20:41] <Veliouras> ok, i'll check it out
[20:41] <ryanryan> is there an apt package that will install winsock.h and windows.h headers?
[20:41] <Veliouras> thanks
[20:41] <cwillu> Fritzel, just the normal output of wine should be enough
[20:41] <cwillu> to get some sense of what's going on at least
[20:41] <CyD> Veliouras: atheros really should be suitable for ubuntu,
[20:41] <Mimi> ejer:  Ok, do you know how I can make it work from fstab to its mounted at boot /login? Ive googled
[20:41] <CyD> Veliouras: i have a few of them. i'm not sure about your problem though :(
[20:41] <sinnlos> hello i will make connect my pc with a bluetooth headset , but i have this error: http://nopaste.org/p/aYmEvefSib
[20:42] <Mathman> ryanryan: yikes.  maybe that junk would be in winelib, so wine?  but that's certainly not a Linux type of thing
[20:42] <ejer> Mimi: what is error? paste me fstab
[20:42] <kec0> mmmmmmm
[20:42] <Mimi> ejer: /dev/sdb1 /media/USB\040Drive ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[20:42] <Fritzel> cwillu, umm that's fixme+all and what else? I have -all in my bashrc
[20:42] <Veliouras> CyD it looks like this is it, but i am too confused with this wireless stuff
[20:42] <ryanryan> Mathman: does that mean .c files that have those header files included are intended to be compiled on windows?
[20:42] <ejer> Mimi: whey is there a backslash in the name
[20:42] <ejer> why
[20:42] <backslash> lol ejer
[20:42] <backslash> you made my konversation blinkin
[20:42] <Mathman> ryanryan: yep
[20:42] <cwillu> ?
[20:43] <CyD> Veliouras: yea i'm sorry it has to be confusing, most of the time on my machines it is no hassle and i don't pay attention
[20:43] <ejer> sorry :)
[20:43] <Mimi> ejer:  its a escape character to allow for spaces, thats what it does. thats not the problem however
[20:43] <backslash> ^^
[20:43] <ryanryan> Mathman: gotcha, thanks. i wasn't sure if those headers were os specific
[20:43] <aaroncampbell> I'm having Java Problems on Hardy.  Every time I try to install or run Zend Studio or eclipse (the eclipse package installs via adept), I get Locking assertion failure. a couple times, with accompanying backtraces
[20:43] <ejer> Mimi: i think it is the problem
[20:43] <t1n0m3n> ﻿Mathman: Well, ok, 7.10 didn't have this issue, so I am supposing this is a reintroduction of the original 2003 gnome bug...  *shrug* i dunno
[20:43] <Mimi> ~ Question ~ how can I install KDE without installing all the junky stuff that comes with it?
[20:43] <ejer> Mimi: unless you have an error message to show me
[20:43] <Mimi> ejer:  then why does it say You are not privileged to mount the volume 'USB Drive'. when i click it
[20:43] <Veliouras> CyD, my problem is that i want to configure this connection to start when i boot the pc automatically
[20:43] <ejer> Mimi: as i said, because you put it in fstab, which is only for root
[20:43] <cwillu> Veliouras, oh, you mean before you've logged in?
[20:43] <CyD> Veliouras: on my machines this happens without me needing to configure it
[20:44] <Mimi> ejer i can mount it perfectly fine  if i do sudo mount /dev/sdb1
[20:44] <Kohlrak> would i be able to reconfigure the xserver without rebooting?
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[20:44] <Fritzel> cwillu, I have to logout to get back to the default settings for wine debug messages brb
[20:44] <cwillu> Veliouras, you'll have to configure it via /etc/network/interfaces I believe
[20:44] <ejer> Mimi: yes :) sudo = root
[20:44] <Mimi> ejer:   Ok, hence why I asked "Do you know how I can make it mount automaticcaly at boot... ? "
[20:44] <averagejoe> is sharing files easier in linux than it is in windows?  or is there something I dont understand about setting up file sharing in windows :)
[20:44] <flaco> hey all... howcan I know where is the installation of a package (in my case tcl-dev) ??
[20:44] <averagejoe> is there any programs that makes file sharing easier in ubuntu
[20:44] <Kohlrak> CyD, what happens to you without you needing to configure it?
[20:44] <dholbert> Mimi: stuff in fstab should auto-mount on root
[20:45] <ejer> Mimi: i have asked you for info, and provided the most likely answer, if you don't like the answer, perhaps someone else may help
[20:45] <Kohlrak> what do you mean flaco?
[20:45] <CyD> Veliouras: here, when my laptop comes out of suspend, it connects to the closest network that i've used before
[20:45] <sykopomp|work> anyone here managed to get quicktime player to work under wine? There's an app I'm trying to run that depends on it.
[20:45] <dholbert> Mimi: unless it's inaccessible or marked "noauto"
[20:45] <majikins> bump
[20:45] <Mimi> ejer:  all i asked is if you know how to make it mount on boot, and gave you all info you asked O.o
[20:45] <CyD> oh hi Kohlrak :)
[20:45] <Veliouras> CyD, this wou;d also help
[20:45] <Kohlrak> Hey, anyone have a dramatic slowdown when trying to look at your screen savers?
[20:45] <Kohlrak> hi, CyD
[20:46] <Veliouras> cwillu, give me a hint please
[20:46] <ejer> Mimi: i asked twice now what the error is, and I said it is because of your backslash, not really worth arguing about until you try the fixes... gawd
[20:46] <flaco> Kohlrak: I'm compiling a program... and this does not find tcl, but this is installed... so I need to know the path of tcl
[20:46] <backslash> again *.*
[20:46] <Don_Miguel> Mimi: USB stuff normally will mount if it is plugged-in after you log in ...
[20:46] <Kohlrak> I think i have an idea why mupen doesn't work, it was still slow when my card wasn't iffy, but i now am trying to figure out why the heck my card's buggerin' up on me.
[20:46] <CyD> Kohlrak: probably your ati not liking you again :(
[20:46] <Mimi> ejer:  I told you I could mount if perfectly fine from command line  >.>
[20:46] <Kohlrak> hm....
[20:46] <cwillu> Veliouras, does it work after you log in?
[20:46] <majikins> any help
[20:47] <Kohlrak> CyD, that only happens on hardy for some reason.... I'm gonna reboot in english hardy to cross check the name.. i think it changed my card again.
[20:47] <Veliouras> cwillu yes, but i have to improvise in order to make it work
[20:47] <majikins> pls
[20:47] <CyD> Kohlrak: i was messing with an ati card a month or so ago, i grabbed the newest driver from ati.com and it worked much better than gutsy's. can't say anything about hardy..
[20:47] <craigbass1976> Can I still get feisty somewhere?
[20:47] <Fritzel> cwillu, it cooperated and crashed immediatly one moment for the output
[20:47] <CyD> Kohlrak: roger that
[20:47] <crweb> is there something wrong with ubuntu mirror system? I can barely get 2-3 bytes/sec from most of them. I have to keep ctrl-c and restarting it to get new good mirror
[20:47] <Kohlrak> I think hardy keeps trying to change what it thinks my card is
[20:47] <Mimi> Don_Miguel, dholbert:   I'm aware of that *sigh* but the reason Im asking here, is BECAUSE it is NOT mounting, so I figured "Hey, to make it mount, I can put it on fstab!" But I don't want to have to sudo mount  every time I log in! Is there a way around that?! It's ALL I'm asking!
[20:47] <craigbass1976> Gutsy ran like pooh pooh on the computer I need to install on
[20:48] <Kohlrak> the CD doesn't think i have what i have, gives some other weird card's name instead
[20:48] <JeffATL> i've just done an 8.04 installation and got xorg working once i *moved* /etc/X11/xorg.conf - however, i need to modify xorg.conf in order to add a bit for a wacom tablet...where is xorg getting its config now?
[20:48] <cwillu> Mimi, in fstab, if you mark it as 'auto', it'll mount when the machine boots
[20:48] <__phil> is there any reason Xorg would be using 25% of the CPU while the machine is doing nothing?
[20:48] <Kohlrak> well, craig, it could be worse. could be trying to install windows... XD
[20:48] <ogt> hi ther
[20:48] <Fritzel> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10792/
[20:48] <Mimi> Thank you cwillu ... *faints* :-)
[20:48] <craigbass1976> Kohlrak, I know. :)
[20:49] <ogt> anyway I can run several synaptic or apt-get instances at the same time???
[20:49] <Mathman> __phil: compiz perhaps?
[20:49] <CyD> craigbass1976: is hardy any better than gutsy for you? boots faster from what i've seen thus far at least..
[20:49] <craigbass1976> But I'm on my motorcycle today and don't feel like taking this box home to install, and I'd like to have it running when I come in tomorrow morning
[20:49] <Mathman> ogt: beats me, but sure sounds like a recipe for disaster
[20:49] <Kohlrak> ogt, you shouldn't have more than one type of synaptic open at a time
[20:49] <majikins> hello can anyone help me with setting up a local hard repo to be seen by other pc's? I've been following this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=782162&highlight=debmirror and got stuck
[20:49] <Mimi> cwillu:  Are you aware of any other tags I must add to that line, to make it so normal users are able to access the drive, or should it be okay with just defaults,auto ?
[20:49] <ejer> cwillu: should automount unless you specify noauto, no?
[20:49] <Kohlrak> they do that for a very good reason that isn't considered in windows =p
[20:49] <josspyker> 7.10,siemens gigaset usb adapter worked flawless the last months but not anymore,lsusb "device present,ndiswrapper -l shows the correct drivers,interfaces is not changed, any idea
[20:50] <dholbert> cwillu / mimi: yeah, I agree with ejer -- I thought auto was default
[20:50] <majikins> when I point to the repo in my browser I get permission denied
[20:50] <craigbass1976> OR... is there a way to copy the contents of my 40 gig drive over to a new 80?
[20:50] <mistiipu>  how can i run munin?
[20:50] <craigbass1976> in one fell swoop
[20:50] <cwillu> Veliouras, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide has a description of how to set up a connection on boot rather than via a logged in user (section 4: config files, although you'll want to read the whole page so you understand what section 4 is talking about a bit more)
[20:50] <ogt> for disaster?
[20:50] <Kohlrak> craig, there are many awys to do that
[20:50] <ogt> lol, I didn't get you
[20:51] <cwillu> Mimi, afaik, defaults includes user permissions, but it depends on the file system (man <type> should give you more info)
[20:51] <Kohlrak> ogt, pretty much. you don't want to install 2 things at once on linux because things in linux are a little more closer to the OS than they are in windows.
[20:51] <dholbert> cwillu: type = ntfs-3g in this case
[20:51] <craigbass1976> exit
[20:51] <cwillu> Fritzel, looking now
[20:51] <craigbass1976> oops.  bye
[20:51] <craigbass1976> not in a terminal... hehe
[20:51] <Kohlrak> You could end up saving the same files and editing them seperate ways, in the end you end up wtih corrupted files
[20:51] <Fritzel> cwillu, -nod- take your time
[20:51] <ogt> I see, so libraries may get corrupted , etc ..right???
[20:51] <Kohlrak> it's like trying to have 2 installers for the same program runing at the same time
[20:51] <Kohlrak> pretty much
[20:51] <CyD> is there another channel for ppa support?
[20:52] <Kohlrak> ppa?
[20:52] <dholbert> ubottu: ppa
[20:52] <cwillu> Fritzel, can you cat `which war3` for me?
[20:52] <Don_Miguel> !ppa
[20:52] <CyD> some sort of community repos for software not yet in officials
[20:52] <CyD> yea..
[20:52] <Kohlrak> ah
[20:52] <Mimi> CyD:  does your irc client show a channel list? you might be able to search for PPA and see what comes up
[20:52] <Fritzel> cwillu, it's a script, I'll one-up you let me get the script,
[20:52] <forum2008> hey, anyone having the brightness problem with hardy?
[20:53] <Mimi> The brightness problem?
[20:53] <cwillu> CyD, ppa's are personal, you'd have to talk to the person who owns the ppa you're using (if that's what you're asking)
[20:53] <CyD> Mimi: thanks ya. usually it complains that the list is too big though :) i'l proly try
[20:53] <__phil> Mathman: compiz?
[20:53] <smallfoot-> OO.o 3 beta is out
[20:53] <CyD> cwillu: cool. asking about ipod-touch ppas i guess
[20:53] <smallfoot-> awwwwwwwwweawe
[20:53] <Mathman> __phil: the 3d desktop junk
[20:53] <cwillu> CyD, ya, you'd have to talk to the ppa owner
[20:53] <Mimi> CyD:  i searched and all i got was #ppa  and  #gentoo-ppa *giggles*
[20:53] <CyD> been asking for a few hours nobody seems to know or answer :) no biggy
[20:53] <CyD> Mimi: heh ty :D
[20:53] <__phil> ahh
[20:53] <Kohlrak> well, i'll be back. i gotta switch to english to do some checks to see if hardy's not screwing with my vid card... i think it is ignoring my real video card and trying to use something else.
[20:54] <__phil> yeah I am running KDE 4
[20:54] <Kohlrak> CyD, you a developer?
[20:54] <CyD> Kohlrak: no not really
[20:54] <CyD> some day :P
[20:54] <Fritzel> cwillu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10795/
[20:54] <Kohlrak> What do you plan on using?
[20:54] <scraga1> hey, I just ran "ps -A", and I appear to have 2 coppies of Xorg running, any ideas?
[20:54] <CyD> Kohlrak: i use ipod-touch repos for ipod classic/new nano etc
[20:54] <CyD> Kohlrak: gutsy packages don't cut it
[20:54] <Kohlrak> XD
[20:55] <cwillu> Fritzel, (for future reference, "cat `which war3`" runs cat with the output of which war3 :p)
[20:55] <CyD> hardy does, but i've only updated like 2 out of 6 machines to hardy thus far :)
[20:55] <cwillu> Fritzel, backticks are special like that
[20:55] <forum2008> Mimi: well, the display is very dark and the Fn-keys for adjusting the brightness does not work :(
[20:55] <Fritzel> cwillu, ahh noted thank you ^^
[20:55] <Kohlrak> CyD, what do you plan on using to develop for linux? ASM? C++? VB? XD
[20:55] <churchil_> is this a valid shell script : http://pastebin.com/m63acd684 ?
[20:55] <churchil_> (its short)
[20:55] <CyD> Kohlrak: c++, python
[20:55] <CyD> Kohlrak: well hey, i guess i develop in php/mysql :D
[20:55] <CyD> quite a bit
[20:55] <Kohlrak> i used to use C++, first progamming language, moved on to assembly
[20:55] <dholbert> Fritzel / cwillu: you can also use $( command ) instead of `command`
[20:55] <Fritzel> cwillu, well yeah but you wanted to check location as well that's why I did it that way too,
[20:56] <Fritzel> cwillu, the way I posted left no doubt that's what I was running
[20:56] <ejer> churchil_: looks ok, but I think depmod -m should do this permanently
[20:56] <Don_Miguel> Mimi: <Mimi> ejer: /dev/sdb1 /media/USB\040Drive ntfs-3g defaults 0 0  I think ejer is probably correct about your backslash in the name ... and that may indeed be the "Problem" ...
[20:56] <Fritzel> dholbert, noted thank you ^^
[20:56] <__phil> Mathman: that was it, thanks
[20:56] <Kohlrak> If you ever need help with C++, you know where to come. I have lots of experience with it, just not C++ in linux.
[20:56] <sinnlos> nobody knows what is bluetooth ? thats bad
[20:56] <Kohlrak> anyway, i'll be back....
[20:56] <CyD> Kohlrak: awesome ty :)
[20:56] <scraga1> hey, I just ran "ps -A", and I appear to have 2 copies of Xorg running, any ideas?
[20:56] <churchil_> ejer:  I  never tried
[20:56] <Mimi> Don_Miguel:  the backslash is just an escape character for a space >.> I already said it mounts fine from command line .. thanks anyway
[20:56] <cwillu> sinnlos, no, just that the answers are far outnumbered by the askers right now :p
[20:56] <dholbert> scraga1: reboot?
[20:56] <mysterycool> Anybody could help me out with glade?
[20:56] <ejer> turn the \040 into a space, and Don_Miguel, ntfs-3g is fuse i think, can that be mounted in fstab
[20:57] <Mimi> eje
[20:57] <Mimi> ejer no, i cannot use spaces in fstab, thats why im using /040
[20:57] <mysterycool> I wanna make a program interface then put some c coding in it
[20:57] <JeffATL> where does ubunti get its xorg config from absent an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[20:57] <Prez00> anyone able to run vmware workstation 5.6 on hardy?
[20:57] <dholbert> Mimi: why do you need the space?
[20:57] <simmerz> if i put a cd in my cd drive it opens up fine. if i click on the cd drive icon in "computer" it says "cannot mount location". any ideas why?
[20:57] <Prez00> the any-any updates manged to compile kernel, but now I get a buch of errors when starting vmware
[20:57] <scraga1> ﻿dholbert: doesn't appear to be causing any problems, and one of them doesn't appear to be doing anything at all, I was just wondering if it was safe to kill, or if I should leave it or what?
[20:57] <Mimi> dholbert because I do :)
[20:57] <dholbert> Mimi: why not underscore instead, or osmething
[20:57] <Mimi> Why?
[20:57] <ejer> Mimi: spaces are fine in fstab
[20:57] <Mimi> dholbert theres nothing wrong with the space
[20:58] <Don_Miguel> ejer: not a clu ... thought that was the USB capacity
[20:58] <churchil_> ejer: would the shell script execute each line indivudally (as if I am pressing enter in terminal) and do so as su?
[20:58] <dholbert> Mimi: Ok, if you're sure
[20:58] <chazco> Hi... trying to move back to Gusty, but Hardy has some benefits. Is it possible to get 1) the new bluetooth stuff to work on gusty 2) The "ESC" to skip disk check to work on Gusty?
[20:58] <JeffATL> oops, ubuntu
[20:58] <mike-e> anyone good at jails?>
[20:58] <Mimi> ejer:  if i used a space, i try to mount and it says the line is invalid, so i do need /040
[20:58] <dholbert> scraga1: oh, I'm runnning 2 also
[20:58] <ejer> churchil_: add sudo to each line or else run the script with sudo ./script
[20:58] <doug_> shane2peru: sorry was afk
[20:58] <ejer> Mimi: try wrapping the dev ni quotes
[20:58] <forum2008> Mimi: any idea?
[20:58] <churchil_> ejer: I am going to use   update-rc.d defaults     on it
[20:59] <Mimi> ejer:  didn't work  - the escape is the only thing that worked (for me anyway?)
[20:59] <ejer> churchil_: this is a hack you should not need to do
[20:59] <jackal> has anyone loaded ubuntu on a del inspiron 1100
[20:59] <doug_> shane2peru: did u install it already?
[20:59] <dholbert> Mimi: Have you tried it without a space?
[20:59] <churchil_> ejer: I wish ndiswrapper could hear you
[20:59] <shane2peru> doug_, no problem, I got it installed and ran envyng-gtk and got it setup, and rebooted
[20:59] <dholbert> Mimi: / escaped space
[20:59] <Mimi> forum2008:   i dont think its been fixed yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/203108
[20:59] <Mimi> dholbert yes i have why
[20:59] <shane2peru> doug_, I assume it is running, though have no way to confirm that.
[20:59] <cwillu> Fritzel, well, nothing obvious is showing up;  feel free to do the other kernel line you wanted, but I really don't think it's a dep-like problem
[20:59] <jackal> did you encounter any problems?
[20:59] <dholbert> Mimi: i.e. have you tried booting with an fstab with no space, and seeing if that auto-mounts
[20:59] <ejer> churchil_: i know what u r trying to do, I use ndis as well, did you try ndiswrapper -m yet
[20:59] <doug_> shane2peru: ok then go to sys>progrms>screen res
[20:59] <Kohlrak> wow
[20:59] <Kohlrak> fast rebooting XD
[20:59] <churchil_> ejer: I did
[21:00] <scraga1> ﻿dholbert: Sounds like it's required then. I've had a few X crashes recently though, thought the extra copy could be related
[21:00] <jackal> im about to do it and i am wondering if there is anything i should look into before i start the install
[21:00] <Mimi> dholbert if i try to mount  with the space there it says that line is not valid hence it will not mount
[21:00] <shane2peru> ahh, ok one second
[21:00] <Fritzel> cwillu, what would you lean towards as far as the problem?
[21:00] <churchil_> ejer: alias already there it tells me
[21:00] <dholbert> Mimi:  I mean using another directory that doesn't have a space in its name
[21:00] <ejer> and does not survive reboot churchil_?
[21:00] <manicola> ug I closed a frozen synaptic window that was doing 188 installs by mistake - terminal shows the process still running - am i still installing, or is there any way to reopen a graphical progress bar? thanks
[21:00] <Trae> anyone here a mouse expert?  I'm having problems getting World of Warcraft to see all of my mouse buttons in game.
[21:00] <dholbert> Mimi: That should be valid
[21:00] <churchil_> ejer: not that muc
[21:00] <Fritzel> cwillu, also the original question remains, is noexec=off a legitimate kernel parameter
[21:00] <Mimi> dholbert this has been solved, thanks to cwillu i now know i just need to add auto   next to defaults
[21:00] <Kohlrak> Anyway, um.... In the restricted hardware drivers menu, should it say what card i'm using or just "ATI accelerated graphics driver"?
[21:00] <shane2peru> doug_, ok, I'm there
[21:00] <dholbert> Mimi: Oh cool! that fixes it?
[21:00] <jackal> did you get any problems loading ubu on del inspiron 1100
[21:01] <Mimi> dholbert it makes it mount at boot
[21:01] <doug_> shane2peru: pick ur res setting.
[21:01] <ejer> churchil_: do you have ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[21:01] <churchil_> ejec: the drivers stay loaded (so the ndiswrapper GUI still sees them) but the nm-app just wont present or auto connect to wireless
[21:01] <Mimi> i need to reboot to test dholbert but im installing kde :O
[21:01] <doug_> shane2peru: then you should be all set.
[21:01] <dholbert> Mimi: Ok
[21:01] <dholbert> Mimi: I'd be interested to know if that fixes it
[21:01] <dholbert> Mimi: when you do reboot
[21:01] <Mimi> I can let you know :)
[21:01] <Mimi> Thanks
[21:01] <dholbert> Mimi: thanks
[21:01] <cwillu> Fritzel, I think so
[21:01] <dholbert> Mimi: if so, that means ntfs-3g (or fuse in general) doesn't default to 'auto', I guess
[21:02] <ejer> churchil_: ok, well, I would call your script from /etc/rc.local, that is easy way to go
[21:02] <churchil_> ejec: i put in there once and the system crashed when starting to load (splash screen became text and it crashed on Loading Open SSH daeomon)
[21:02] <Mimi> dholbert Hmm, didn't think of that, Im really curious now
[21:02] <jackal> was there any display problems
[21:02] <shane2peru> doug_, ok, I did that, and the Resolution seemed really generic. :)  It is the same as on my machine, should it look different?
[21:02] <Fritzel> cwillu, I'm interested in any guesses you might have that might cause the windows error "The memory could not be 'written'" in wine?
[21:02] <forum2008> Mimi: so, no solution so far?
[21:03] <doug_> shane2peru: there will be really no dif.
[21:03] <ejer> Mimi: you can't mount fuse FS same as others in fstab - see http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FAQ?PHPSESSID=bf79a8dda48f17563da56e757c78cdd5#Is_it_possible_to_mount_a_fuse_filesystem_from_fstabx3f.
[21:03] <shane2peru> doug_, I also didn't change anything, because it looked fine too,
[21:03] <kye> hello, how can i mount my ipod? I'm sure i can easily mount it but i'm having the problem finding the /dev/ drive?
[21:03] <churchil_> ejec: my questions would be: I entered each of those 3 lines as su and pressed enter after each line in terminal....... will the script do that but automatically if I use update-rc.d on it ?
[21:03] <Mimi> forum2008:  looks like it. could only find that link but if you search launchpad for 'brigthness' you might find more issues, and if you scroll all the way down , you should see if its fixed or not
[21:03] <doug_> shane2peru: other then a smoother run with ur graphics
[21:03] <edmont> hi
[21:03] <shane2peru> doug_, ok, great, I'll hope that fixes some things.
[21:03] <edmont> gparted does not allow me to create fat32 partitions
[21:03] <doug_> shane2peru: open term and type glxgears
[21:04] <edmont> maybe i need a package?
[21:04] <doug_> shane2peru: after you do that look at it see if its smooth or rough running
[21:04] <kye> doug_, how can i mount my ipod? I'm sure i can easily mount it but i'm having the problem finding the /dev/ drive?
[21:04] <forum2008> Mimi: sucks. if such basic things not working in a lts version :(
[21:04] <shane2peru> doug_, ok
[21:04] <Mimi> ejer:  Is it possible to mount a fuse filesystem from fstab? Yes, from version 2.4.0 this is possible. The filesystem must adhere to some rules about command line options to be able to work this way. --- Explain? Im confused now
[21:04] <ejer> read more Mimi
[21:04] <macross> iz-fusion
[21:04] <Mimi> ejer "Why don't other users have access to the mounted filesystem?" this?
[21:04] <[[thufir]]> should there a "module" section?  I'm trying to setup conky
[21:04] <doug_> kye: i have no idea i do not own an ipod why did u ask me?
[21:04] <eth01> gb.ubuntu.com is down lol
[21:04] <arc_shmoo> how do you mount an iso in hardy?
[21:04] <shane2peru> doug_, looks smooth, runs fine
[21:04] <churchil_> ejec: i dont know need to make a script for each line and then do something like   update-rc.d file1 defaults 90  (containing the first line) and then   update-rc.d file2 defaults 91 (containing second line)
[21:05] <ejer> look at their example line
[21:05] <cwillu> Fritzel, a segfault is an extremely broad form of error.  Somewhere in the program or library used by the program, it's trying to read some memory that doesn't exist (an address in it's memory space that hasn't been mapped to anything by the kernel)
[21:05] <churchil_> ejec: I don't need*
[21:05] <ejer> mimi look at their example line
[21:05] <Kinetic> !mount | arc_shmoo
[21:05] <doug_> shane2peru: then it is all set for you so sorry for the long delay.
[21:05] <[[thufir]]> http://pastebin.com/m44421329  should there be a module section for xorg config?  I'm trying to setup conky to monitor CPU temp
[21:05] <shane2peru> doug_, another question that I think is related to the ATI drivers
[21:05] <shane2peru> doug_, no problem
[21:05] <shane2peru> doug_, thanks
[21:05] <Mimi> brb
[21:05] <ejer> churchil_: u r way off, just call your script from file I said
[21:05] <Kinetic> arc_shmoo that wasnt what i was expecting
[21:05] <doug_> shane2peru: ask away if i do not know it i am sure someone in here may know.
[21:05] <churchil_> ejer: rc.local ?
[21:05] <Veliouras> cwillu thanks for your time and for the guide
[21:06] <shane2peru> doug_, the other thing is that, when I try and open BZFlag on that computer (a game from the repos)  it opens in full screen and then closes right away.
[21:06] <kye> ejer, would you now how to mount a ipod?
[21:06] <Veliouras> see you
[21:06] <Kinetic> arc_shmoo use mount command with loop switch. man mount
[21:06] <Fritzel> cwillu, this is a write error, so it's trying to write outside of what it has access to?
[21:06] <ejer> kye: mine mounts automatically
[21:06] <jadewolf> Whats a good WSIWYG web editor for Ubuntu(AMD64)
[21:06] <cwillu> Fritzel, you could try playing with -d3d instead of opengl, or using a different driver for your videocard, tweaking graphical settings in the client (these things tend to be more optimized, and therefore more likely to be wrong in some subtle way)
[21:06] <tabidachi> kye: what filesystem does the ipod use?
[21:06] <jimcooncat> I want to start a project which will end up with a debian/ubuntu package, eventually submitting to Universe. Is there somewhere I need to register my project's name?
[21:06] <shane2peru> doug_, on the other two systems running hardy without ATI cards, it works fine
[21:06] <kye> ntfs
[21:06] <scraga1> ﻿﻿﻿if I go offine killing duplicate Xorg = bad idea
[21:06] <kye> i have ntfs-3g installed
[21:06] <cwillu> Veliouras, np;  there may be a better guide somewhere, try googling for iwconfig (that's the general tool for configuring the wireless network from the command line)
[21:06] <churchil_> ejec: btw you know of quick way to stop keyring from always asking for password ??
[21:06] <Fritzel> cwillu, d3d causes the same problem
[21:07] <Veliouras> ok thanks again
[21:07] <shane2peru> doug_, the only error when running from the terminal is segmentation fault. :(?
[21:07] <doug_> shane2peru:  i have no ideas sorry i duel boot with hardy and xp and use xp for gaming only.
[21:07] <kye> tabidachi, it's a ntfs scandisk drive
[21:07] <jadewolf> is nvu the best still?
[21:07] <J_P> hey, anyone know if are there one tutorial for install plone 3 on 8.04, because in 8.04 default is the old plone 2.5!
[21:07] <cwillu> Veliouras, ah, heh.  And for future reference, people don't always notice when they're /msg'd (especially if they're active in the channel)
[21:07] <shane2peru> doug_, ok, no prob, it isn't high priority, you will have to check out bzflag if you like shootem up games. :)
[21:07] <tabidachi> kye: you'll have to #sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[21:07] <ejer> jadewolf: kompozer is nu nvu
[21:07] <doug_> kye:  to mount your ntfs follow this guide. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite-support-made-easy-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[21:07] <jimcooncat> jadewolf: nvu changed name to komposer or kompozer
[21:07] <shane2peru> doug_, thanks for the help.
[21:07] <kye> tabidachi, i have that installed.
[21:07] <arc_shmoo> Kinetic: there isnt a script or program to do it?
[21:07] <MrBill> Is it possible from my Hardy machine to access Novell shares?
[21:08] <Kohlrak> Anyone know if the hardware drivers is supposed to say my card name specifically (ATI Xpress 1150) or just "ATI accelerated graphics driver"?
[21:08] <scraga1> hmn... killing any copy causes a new one to spawn, must be some form of stability boosting, pretty cool. :P
[21:08] <doug_> shane2peru: only two shootem up games i play is Deus Ex and star trek bridge commander.
[21:08] <kye> I Simply can't find the dev mount point
[21:08] <kye> so i dont no what to mount
[21:08] <Kohlrak> I think in gutsy it said what card i used....
[21:08] <cwillu> Fritzel, open winecfg, and turn off all sound acceleration, and then shutdown pulseaudio if it's running (killall pulseaudio is a hacky but effective way to do it; you'll have to relog after to get it running properly, but for now...)
[21:08] <cwillu> Fritzel, and then try wow again
[21:08] <Trae> Can anyone help me getting a 5 button mouse going with Ubuntu 8.04 please?
[21:08] <doug_> shane2peru: do glxgears in term again and move the gear box around and see if its smooth.
[21:09] <tabidachi> kye: /dev/sda1 ?
[21:09] <Fritzel> cwillu, this is warcraft3 not wow and I abandoned pulseaudio a while ago, my sound is fully functional in and out of wine using alsa
[21:09] <cwillu> bah, sorry :p
[21:09] <Fritzel> cwillu, but I can remove acceleration I suppose
[21:09] <shane2peru> doug_, ha ha, ok, don't know of them, I'm not a really a gamer,  ... ... ok, let me check that.
[21:09] <Kohlrak> Anyone with ATI here...?
[21:09] <kye> tabidachi,  sda1 = my vista partition
[21:09] <cwillu> none the less, turn off acceleration, yes
[21:09] <tabidachi> kye: /dev/sdb1 then?
[21:09] <doug_> kye: check the link i gave you for mounting ntfs.
[21:09] <shane2peru> doug_, yep seems to work fine.
[21:09] <kye> doug_ ty
[21:10] <arc_shmoo> does anyone know when hardy will have the same wireless support as gutsy?
[21:10] <kye> tabidachi,  i dont like playing the guessing game
[21:10] <Trae> I can't seem to get my mouse to use the other buttons in Wine.
[21:10] <noelferreira> my keys get stuck sometimes and other times don't work. can anyone help me with this huge bug: http://pastebin.com/m7bc88052
[21:10] <shane2peru> doug_, I think after the screen saver kicks on again, and is on for a while I will know for sure if things are fixed.  Thanks.
[21:10] <doug_> shane2peru:  what is the game you try to play?
[21:10] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: have you looked at imwheel from the repos?
[21:10] <shane2peru> doug_, bzflag, works fine on my box
[21:11] <loffe> Hi all, I can't install libqt4-opengl-dev. There seems to be a conflict. I get this error message: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/pkgconfig/QtOpenGL.pc', which is also in package libqt4-dev
[21:11] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, hmmm I guess I haven't.  how would I get that going?
[21:11] <shane2peru> doug_, just not on the other one with ATI
[21:11] <Kohlrak> Anyone running ATI here to answer a short question for me?
[21:11] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, hardy support far more devices out of the box than gutsy did, however there are a few devices that are having troubles afaik.  Also, many of the methods used to get wireless cards working in gutsy break the (new) support for those cards in hardy
[21:12] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: install it from the repos, then you gotta make changes in xorg.conf for the mouse
[21:12] <skarface> anyone know why I get "segmentation fault" and both epiphany and firefox crash when I press alt-d, alt-t, etc.?
[21:12] <Cream> When im talking in skype i cant listen to music and i get no sound from videos.. tips? :)
[21:12] <doug_> shane2peru:  if u like u can post ur question about it here or check this site for a question simular to urs about it http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[21:12] <doug_> kye: yw
[21:12] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, I just installed.. it.. and typed it and it says something like:  INFO: imwheel started (pid=15243)
[21:12] <shane2peru> doug_, yeah, I will research it later, it isn't a high priority.  Thanks again for your help, see ya.
[21:13] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: proset wireless seems a pretty common chipset to break
[21:13] <doug_> shane2peru: yw and gl.
[21:13] <shane2peru> doug_, I gotta run
[21:13] <apgob> whats the best burning program bresaro sucks
[21:13] <Kohlrak> Anyone have an ATI graphics card?
[21:13] <Flare183> Kohlrak: I do
[21:14] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: good now edit xorg.conf
[21:14] <Kohlrak> Flare, does it say what card you have in the hardware drivers or just "ATI Accelerated Graphics driver?"
[21:14] <apgob> whats a good burning software for linux
[21:14] <tabidachi> kye: don't know what to say then. ask someone else
[21:14] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, I think this is the part where I say I've never heard of that chipset :p
[21:14] <Starnestommy> apgob: k3b or gnomebaker
[21:14] <Flare183> Kohlrak: Hold on I will check
[21:14] <Kohlrak> apgob, the software that comes with linux =p
[21:14] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, k I'm there
[21:14] <Kohlrak> thanks, flare
[21:14] <[[thufir]]> how can I open the /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/ directory with the GUI so that I have permissions to unzip conkyrc.sample.gz through Nautilus?
[21:14] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: you have it backed up first off?
[21:14] <apgob> ok
[21:14] <volkswagner> apgob i like k3b for  burning
[21:14] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, yah
[21:14] <ogt> xrandr not working on tablet pc, anybody on this case????
[21:14] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, ipw3945?
[21:14] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: standard in all dell e1505
[21:15] <Starnestommy> [[thufir]]: gksudo nautilus
[21:15] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: yes
[21:15] <Mimi> dholbert ejer  no, automount doesnt work
[21:15] <linxdev> Hello
[21:15] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, okay, I've heard of that one
[21:15] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: kk, now lemme give you a pastebin of my xorg.conf entry for my mouse
[21:15] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, kk
[21:15] <Mimi> dholbert ejer you guys think I could add a command to my session, like.. well, I don't know what it is, but gnome auto mounter can mount the drive for me, no? so you think I could run that command on my start up?
[21:15] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, now this imwheel ... I gotta start it every time?
[21:15] <linxdev> Trying to figure out why 8.04 does not allow me to configure X anymore via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  Is there a new program for that?
[21:15] <apgob> brasero sucks so bad, it burns at 3.3X when my burner is 48X
[21:16] <jorvis> is the amd64 iso supposed to work with intel too?  where is the intel 64-bit one?
[21:16] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: it's as simple as editing its config file to autostart
[21:16] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: currently using ndiswrapper but i had to kill the encryption on my netword to make it work
[21:16] <Flare183> Kohlrak: It just says ATI Technologies
[21:16] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: now check out my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/10801/
[21:16]  * Flare183 can't spell
[21:16] <Starnestommy> jorvis: amd64 does work on 64-bit intel
[21:16] <jorvis> Starnestommy: any clue why they named it that way?
[21:16] <Kohlrak> odd, so it's seperate files but it's not specific with the names, thanks falre... i'll try seeing if updating from the ATI site does any better.
[21:17] <Flare183> Kohlrak: ok
[21:17] <Starnestommy> jorvis: amd64 was around before the x86 processors became 64-bit
[21:17] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, k got that in now
[21:17] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: I'm assuming you have a mouse with the nav forward and back buttons and a middle button scroller right?
[21:17] <pookey> hi all - does ubuntu some with something to detect sound cards? mine hasn't been detected
[21:17] <doug_> Starnestommy: yes i know it does i have a 64bit intel but im running 32 bit lol
[21:17] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, yup
[21:17] <aro> Are the us.archive repositories slow for anyone else?
[21:17] <tabidachi> aro: yes
[21:17] <linxdev> aro:  Yes,  I've seen it today
[21:17] <tabidachi> aro: switch to another server
[21:17] <aro> tabidachi, Ok
[21:17] <linxdev> Probably due to all the updates
[21:17] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, what's the output from iwconfig?
[21:17] <[[thufir]]> Starnestommy: thanks, that looks good :)
[21:17] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: kk, your mouse is considered a 7 button mouse according to xorg.conf see that?
[21:17] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, (pastebin it)
[21:17] <ktkhggr> why my nautilus is slow
[21:17] <jadewolf> Anyone else having problems installing using the Add Software GUI interface with 8.04?
[21:17] <Kohlrak> 10 frames/sec is very bad..... Especially when your computer can barely move the mouse when the screen saver chooser menu is open.
[21:18] <volkswagner> us. archives have been 56k speed vs. 800k in the past
[21:18] <mehdi_> hello all
[21:18] <tabidachi> aro: settings --> repositiories --> 'download from other'
[21:18] <linxdev> Is there a way to configure X in 8.04?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not do hardware detection anymore
[21:18] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: for the Protocol entry, try the same ExplorerPS/2 that i use.  it works great for me
[21:18] <skarface> anyone know why I get "segmentation fault" and both epiphany and firefox crash when I press alt-d, alt-t, etc.? I'm assuming it's gtk related but no idea where to start.
[21:18] <Mimi> Question: Ummm My computer freezes every once in a while (4 out of 10 times..?) when I log out (gnome restarts)  ... would I file this as a bug? O.o
[21:18] <jorvis> Starnestommy: any practical reasons why I shouldn't run 64-bit OS?  firefox plugins, video drivers, etc.?
[21:18] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, k
[21:19] <benpicco__> Is it possible to use the ipw3945 wlan driver instead of iwl3945 in kernel 2.6.24?
[21:19] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: then the important parts are the buttons, zaxis mapping, emulate3buttons, and especially buttonmapping
[21:19] <Starnestommy> jorvis: the only problems I've had were flash and java, but I was able to eventually get those to work
[21:19] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, nice!
[21:19] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: im currently mooching off our local whichwich... http://pastebin.com/m58c4418e
[21:19] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, the only thing I need now is to get it where it starts up when I launch X
[21:20] <Kohlrak> welp.... i know what's wrong... this is no good. ATI doesn't have drivers for xpress 1150?
[21:20] <jorvis> Starnestommy: if my laptop has only 4gb RAM, is there any reason to use 64-bit?
[21:20] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, can you help with that please?
[21:20] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: all set with the xorg.conf part?
[21:20] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, and it didn't give any other (blank) interfaces?
[21:20] <Trae> Gary_inNYC++
[21:20] <ejer> jorvis: u will not see 4gb unless u use 64
[21:20] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, ;)
[21:20] <Starnestommy> jorvis: 64-bit tends to be somewhat faster with I/O operations
[21:20] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, yah just need to figure out how to have imwheel up at start of X
[21:20] <Kohlrak> is there a graphics driver equivalent to ndis?
[21:20] <akatsuki> hello friend
[21:20] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: k, now go to /etc/X11/imwheel and edit startup.conf
[21:20] <jadewolf> <-- uses AMD64 and loves it
[21:20] <jorvis> ejer: why not?  I thought I wouldn't see over 4gb
[21:21] <akatsuki> im new on ubuntu.. everything works very well.. but i dont like the design and brown color.. how can i change the ubuntu style?
[21:21] <akatsuki> i dont like brown with gray
[21:21] <linxdev> akatsuki: themes
[21:21] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: lo and eth0 "no wireless extensions"
[21:21] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, from 0 -> 1
[21:21] <ejer> i could be wrong, but on gutsy limit was 2GB for 32bit jorvis
[21:21] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, ?
[21:21] <Mimi> Anyone know what the nautilus/gnome usb drive mount  command is? I want to add it to my session start up ... :)
[21:21] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, k
[21:21] <akatsuki> linxdev where are the themes?
[21:21] <Gary_inNYC> yep, make sure to remove the comment as well if there is any
[21:21] <linxdev> Preferences -> Apparance
[21:21] <Fritzel> cwillu, I still recieved the same error with sound set to "Basic" in winecfg
[21:21] <doug_> akatsuki: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[21:21] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, thank bunches mate!
[21:21] <linxdev> Also you can download them
[21:22] <ejer> jorvis: i am wrong, 4GB is ok in 32
[21:22] <Gibby69> How can I change log on screen resolution
[21:22] <akatsuki> thanks a lot doug
[21:22] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: for things like navigation in Nautilus, Firefox, Gthumb, etc, check out another pastebin i'll give you
[21:22] <Trae> anyone know what the heck the .dmrc file is for?
[21:22] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, do you have a wired conncetion you can use?
[21:22] <doug_> akatsuki: with that site u can download gdm themes for ur log in and get border themes and mouse and wallpapers and alot other themes.
[21:22] <sri> greetings.
[21:22] <Fritzel> cwillu, and emulation
[21:22] <Trae> I'm getting something about perms on .dmrc that it should be owned and writable by someone
[21:22] <akatsuki> all right but what is exactly themes? only the wallpaper?
[21:23] <PuG> Hi, im trying to unpack a rather large tar.bz2 file, (2.883 gig) but it fails to do so and comes up with:   http://pastebin.com/d5f9115dc
[21:23] <sri> out of curiosity, I recently updated my kernel and rebooted but I found my nvidia drivers gone.
[21:23] <doug_> akatsuki: themes very from everything
[21:23] <akatsuki> i see
[21:23] <cwillu> Fritzel, okay.  Sorry, that's all I got :/
[21:23] <akatsuki> yeah i read you now
[21:23] <akatsuki> so also when i log in
[21:23] <akatsuki> what would be awsome
[21:23] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/10803/
[21:23] <FloodBot1> akatsuki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:23] <doug_> akatsuki: this is alittle offtopic u can join me in room #wwed for more talk about themes.
[21:23] <akatsuki> which are the themes for log in?
[21:23] <Fritzel> cwillu, Previously on IRC: I still recieved the same error with sound set to "Basic" in winecfg
[21:23] <sri> in fact there is no nvidia.ko driver anywhere in my system even though the restricted driver package is installed.
[21:23] <Starnestommy> PuG: it could be corrupt or damaged
[21:23] <cwillu> Fritzel, yep, I got that
[21:23] <crdlb> sri: linux-restricted-modules links it at boot
[21:24] <Fritzel> cwillu, oh you ment you're out of ideas, -nod- alright
[21:24] <ejer> PuG: enuff diskspace?
[21:24] <PuG> Ive had to upload in sections resuming due to its size
[21:24] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: that's the entries you put in imwheelrc
[21:24] <sri> dpkg -L on crdlb linux-restricted-modules doesn't have any .ko files either.
[21:24] <jescis> inittab is not in /etc :o
[21:24] <Fritzel> cwillu, well thank you none the less
[21:24] <sri> er..
[21:24] <sri> crdlb: ah, okay.. why si that?
[21:24] <PuG> hmmwill check
[21:24] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, still there?
[21:24] <sri> crdlb: in any case no linkage is going on at boot :/
[21:24] <crdlb> sri: the unlinked version lives in /lib/linux-restricted-modules, and gets set up by the linux-restricted-modules-common init script
[21:24] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: yes
[21:24] <administrator> hhujhuj
[21:24] <cwillu> do you have a wired connection you can use?
[21:24] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: yes
[21:25] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, ahhh ok  You don't happen to know about this .dmrc file do you ?  it's perms are -rw---------
[21:25] <sri> crdlb: okay, that would explain why there are only .o files in the package.
[21:25] <cwillu> okay
[21:25] <crdlb> sri: I have no idea why ubuntu does things this way, just that they do :)
[21:25] <Gary_inNYC> Trae: sry can't say i do
[21:25] <sri> crdlb: yeah, it doesn't make any sense and makes it hard to debug.
[21:25] <Trae> Gary_inNYC, np ;)  and thanks you've been VERY helpful bud!
[21:25] <Gary_inNYC> np
[21:25] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, pastebin me:  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modules
[21:25] <aLeSD> hi do u suggest to install proposed updates too ?
[21:26] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, and the output of "lspci|grep -i net" and "lsmod"
[21:26] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, ping me as you get them up
[21:26] <sri> crdlb: where does it put the .ko file?  do you know?
[21:26] <ejer> do others notice xorg using way more resources than in previous ubuntu versions
[21:26] <jadewolf> Can I install Apache and MySQL on 8.04 Desktop?
[21:26] <Starnestommy> jadewolf: yes
[21:26] <ejer> my xorg uses constant 10% cpu no matter what
[21:27] <ek> ejer: What CPU?
[21:27] <echogen> ubuntu install is frustrating me :( it cant find all my partitions, it is treating my 3 partition as 1, which is the sum of the 3
[21:27] <crdlb> sri: /lib/modules/version/volatile/ I think
[21:27] <crweb> wow,  they need to take (91.189.88.46) out of the mirror list. It can't even do a few bits per second.
[21:27] <sri> crdlb: thanks to my own ignorance, I used the downloaded nvidia driver from nvidia.com to install the driver.
[21:27] <M1DLG> hello guys, I've lost my bar from the bottom of the desktop, how do i return it?
[21:27] <jadewolf> Starnestommy: Can I do it using add/remove program GUI or do I need to do manual setup?
[21:27] <manoff> scuse me but why i can't find inittab from /etc in ubuntu?
[21:27] <ejer> ek: the third one : ) what do you mean what cpu
[21:27] <cwillu> echogen, how do you mean?
[21:27] <ek> ejer: What type. Sorry. Should have been more specific.
[21:27] <cwillu> M1DLG, alt+f2, type gnome-panel
[21:27] <sri> crdlb: hrm.  didn't create anything there. oaky, i'll check it out.
[21:27] <ejer> ek: core2quad
[21:28] <Starnestommy> jadewolf: you might need to use System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.  Add/Remove tends to just have desktop stuff
[21:28] <cwillu> manoff, there is none
[21:28] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: connect wired?
[21:28] <ek> ejer: Hrm. Haven't seen anything like that at all.
[21:28] <prodigel> Hi all. Can I install shockwave in firefox under ubuntu? about:plugins tells me I have it installed, still some site tells me the oposite
[21:28] <cwillu> manoff, look it /etc/event.d/, the tty's are set up in there
[21:28] <manoff> cwillu, i am reading one book about Linux system administration and it tells about this file
[21:28] <ek> ejer: Is this a fresh install, an updated version, etc...?
[21:28] <jadewolf> Starnestommy: Thanks wife needs me to do some SQL databases :)
[21:28] <Kohlrak> Where's the supported hardware page?
[21:28] <manoff> cwillu: so i guess inittab is not used anymore?
[21:29] <cwillu> manoff, yep;  ubuntu uses upstart, replacing the old sysv-init stuff (although all the /etc/init.d, rc.x/ stuff is still usable for compatibility
[21:29] <makd> jadewolf - i installed mysql the other day with no problems
[21:29] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, did you get that list?
[21:29] <manoff> cwillu: roger, over and out
[21:29] <manoff> thanks
[21:29] <makd> apt-get install mysql-server
[21:29] <PuG> ejer:   /dev/md6  space: 4 767.00 MB
[21:29] <PuG> used: 2 766.42 MB
[21:29] <ejer> ek: i have seen quite a few mentions, but it gets passed off as something eventually, I think there is a bug here. I am an experienced user... for your Q this was a fresh install of official release
[21:29] <kbrosnan> prodigel: shocwave is windows only
[21:29] <sri> crdlb: never mind it did create it.. blind! :)
[21:29] <jadewolf> makd: I figured it wouldn't be an issue but I just wanted to ask before I start
[21:29] <noelferreira> my keys get stuck sometimes and other times don't work. can anyone help me with this huge bug: http://pastebin.com/m7bc88052
[21:29] <echogen> Cwiiis: i have 1 ATA HD with 3 partitions, 1 having windows XP (60GB), the other having a linux distro (19GB), and the third as a swp (1GB), when i try to install ubuntu 8.04, i get only the option to install it on 1 HD which is an 80GB HD
[21:29] <kbrosnan> prodigel: you can install shockwave w/ windows firefox and wine if you really need access
[21:30] <sri> crdlb: thanks for the info!
[21:30] <ek> ejer: Hrm. That is strange. Not sure why it would use so much CPU at idle. What is it specifically that is using the 10%? Xorg itself?
[21:30] <prodigel> kbrosnan: too complicated. I'll give it a pass :)
[21:30] <crdlb> sri: no problem :)
[21:30] <John_S> I think I may have really fouled up--I wanted to add a command alias for a user to my /etc/sudoers file, so instead of using "visudo" (I'm not familiar with vi), I simply did "gksudo gedit sudoers". To save the file though, I had to change the permissions so that user (root) had write permission. But as soon as I changed the file permissions on sudoers, I can no longer use "sudo". Yes, I...
[21:30] <jadewolf> echogen: custom Partitioning should be an options, I used it
[21:30] <John_S> ...guess I was quite ignorant. :( Any way to fix this?
[21:30] <ejer> ek: yep : 6559 root      20   0  563m 107m  21m R   19  1.3 140:57.11 Xorg (using 20% there)
[21:30] <echogen> jadewolf: what custom partitioning ?
[21:31] <ejer> ek it fluctuates ebtween 10-20% just idling
[21:31] <jadewolf> echogen: should be an option when you are installing
[21:31] <echogen> there is manual install
[21:31] <ek> ejer: Hrm. That's poopy. Just out of curiousity, have you tried other variants of your video card's drivers?
[21:31] <ek> ejer: IE: Tried the VESA driver and such?
[21:31] <echogen> which was not helpful at all
[21:31] <ek> ejer: Could be a problem with that.
[21:31] <jadewolf> echogen: allows you to make partitions and setup start mounts on your own
[21:31] <ejer> ek: nvidia 8500 using newest nvidia drivers, but yeah I have tried nv
[21:32] <ejer> which did not work so well
[21:32] <echogen> jadewolf: i dont wana make partition, they are already set up, if i make them i would have to format them and loose all my data
[21:32] <ejer> ek: i have seen posts in our lug on same subject... but very hard to track down what is going on
[21:32] <ek> ejer: Yeah. I wouldn't think it would work any better. Figured it would be worth a shot.
[21:32] <Gibby69> anyone know how to reset the log on screen size and resolution after updating to 8.04
[21:32] <ek> ejer: Might need to take this to the forums or mailing lists.
[21:32] <ek> ejer: Chances of getting help in this bloated channel is slim to none. :P
[21:33] <ek> Stuff scrolls too quickly.
[21:33] <ejer> yup ek just wondering if others have it, not looking for help ;) trying to guage how bad it is
[21:33] <Gralco> why is it that when i run sudo pbuilder create the out put is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10806/plain/
[21:33] <M1DLG> thats rubbish ejer, just wait your turn it will come
[21:33] <jaran> What does the expo key?
[21:33] <echogen> so any idea ?
[21:33] <M1DLG> this is HELP for FREE, people doing this for nothing
[21:33] <ejer> um I am here to help i just asked an idle question, which is not rubbish thanks M1DLG - been here all day long answering peoples
[21:33] <ek> M1DLG: I didn't mean that no one would help. I was simply stating the chances of someone seeing this later and responding is not likely.
[21:34] <ejer> i have responded to more Qs
[21:34] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: back
[21:34] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: ﻿/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modules return not found
[21:34] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: lsmod = http://pastebin.com/m53b02f31
[21:34] <arc_shmo1> ﻿spci|grep -i net= http://pastebin.com/m59d464c6
[21:34] <FloodBot1> arc_shmo1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <ejer> than I should have :)
[21:34] <DVS01> us.ubuntu.com down?
[21:34] <DVS01> i mean us.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:34] <Trae> DVS01, check topic
[21:34] <Gralco>  why is it that when i run sudo pbuilder create the out put is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10806/plain/
[21:34] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, those were three different files, the contents of which I wanted :p
[21:34] <DVS01> thanks
[21:34] <Some_Person> How come theres a lot of failed stuff when I do update in the package updater? i did ubottu's steps as per the topic of this chat.
[21:34] <M1DLG> sorry ejer, did not take what u said as tongue in cheek
[21:34] <Trae> DVS01, np I was asking the same earlier ;)
[21:34] <echogen> cwillu: could you help me with my prob
[21:35] <echogen> ?
[21:35] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: resend
[21:35] <critta> Is there a way to install multiple versions of wine?
[21:35] <cwillu> arc_shmo1,  ﻿/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[21:35] <cwillu> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist      and then  /etc/modules
[21:35] <M1DLG> you said getting help is slim to none, as if you was an impatiant person
[21:35] <chazco> Are there any distributions that are compatible with Ubuntus /home? I need to find a working distro, at least until Hardy is stable
[21:35] <M1DLG> lol
[21:35] <Gralco>  why is it that when i run sudo pbuilder create the out put is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10806/plain/
[21:35] <Some_Person> chazco: Hardy is stable
[21:35] <chazco> Some_Person - Crashes a lot for me
[21:35] <ek> M1DLG: Me or ejer?
[21:36] <mistiipu>  i hope i can do user1+user2=20k/s  in proxy server . squid?
[21:36] <^Tech-Help^> i use the update repo in new zeland even know im in california and it works great, had 14 updates today with no errors
[21:36] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: did you get my other pastebins? im getting the following for the first file bash: ﻿/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules: No such file or directory
[21:36] <ejer> ok forget it ek M1DLG hehe we are gettin mixed up
[21:36] <M1DLG> sorry both to ejer and ek, both confused, sorry
[21:36] <dholbert> ejer: my xorg fluctuates between 1-8% CPU
[21:36] <cwillu> echogen, one sec
[21:36] <ek> M1DLG, ejer: No problems. :P
[21:36] <ejer> dholbert at all times, even idle
[21:37] <M1DLG> I will cut my index finger off in punishment
[21:37] <dholbert> ejer: mine seems 1-2 when idle
[21:37] <styrman> does someone have experience with TTS ( text to speech ) synthesis i'm looking for some good ones, not the robotic type
[21:37] <ek> ejer: However, I wouldn't give up on finding out what is causing the CPU usage.
[21:37] <dholbert> ejer: so I'm probably not seeing same thing
[21:37] <critta> Is there a way to install multiple versions of wine?
[21:37] <ejer> ek I won't I am stubborn
[21:37] <ek> ejer: Chances are you can get it down to 0-1 if you find out what it is. :P
[21:37] <ek> Haha. Okay.
[21:37] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, gedit ﻿/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[21:37] <Davyboy> ﻿hey room.  i have a quick question is anybody i willing.  I have tried a few different howto's to get this laptop to come back from a suspend...  but nothing is working.  any ideas?  or do I just need to switch to another linux flavor?
[21:37] <LjL> is there some program, or some mix of programs i can use without too much script glue, that i can use to tag (and rename) vorbis files automatically with data from cddb/freedb/musicbrainz? i have the cue sheets
[21:37] <ejer> critta: not really...
[21:38] <stbain> Hrmm... is it just me, are the repositories reaaally slow?
[21:38] <critta> Ok.
[21:38] <Some_Person> New Zeland servers are slow, but working
[21:38] <ejer> LjL: look at easytag - awesome prog
[21:38] <Some_Person> But I know many servers are totally broken
[21:38] <Lapinux> whats the easiest way to go about uninstalling an app?  i need to make sure everything is removed...
[21:38] <ek> stbain: Just you. :P
[21:38] <bcardarella> Is it possible to get Evolution to display emails in Gmail-style threads?
[21:38] <LjL> ejer: ah yes, but sorry, i forgot to say - i need this to be CLI only
[21:38] <ek> stbain: Kidding, of course. There are probs.
[21:38] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: DNE on all blank files
[21:38] <bruenig> apt-get remove
[21:38] <critta> stbain: Yes, I was getting 30 kb/s at my school half an hour ago, but now im getting 2.4 kb/s
[21:38] <Cpudan80> Lapinux: sudo apt-get remove --purge <pkg name>
[21:38] <echogen> ok cwillu
[21:38] <casdf> hello; i have a nearly fresh install of ubuntu (installed xubuntu-desktop, some codecs); ram usage is at 400 under gnome though, this seems somewhat high. is that normal?
[21:38] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, um, something is broken
[21:39] <ejer> LjL: that is more fun hehe I am not too sure of that one, especially with musicbrainz
[21:39] <dholbert> Lapinux: "mark for complete removal" in synaptic
[21:39] <Some_Person> I can't even do today's updates on the US servers, but as ^Tech-Help^ suggested, the New Zeland servers do work
[21:39] <Davyboy> ﻿hey room.  i have a quick question is anybody i willing.  I have tried a few different howto's to get this laptop to come back from a suspend...  but nothing is working.  any ideas?  or do I just need to switch to another linux flavor?
[21:39] <LjL> ejer: doesn't have to be musicbrainz, cddb or freedb will do, i was just giving them as alternatives
[21:39] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, is there anything in /etc/udev/rules.d?
[21:39] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: modules http://pastebin.com/m5cb42609
[21:39] <mistiipu>  i hope i can do user1+user2=20k/s  in proxy server . squid?
[21:39] <Lapinux> dholbert: that seems to leave stuff behind
[21:39] <stbain> k.... just checking. It is an upgrade installation from 6.06 server, and there is a new hardware firewall appliance in place in front of it, but install software from the repository seems to be the only function dragging its butt.
[21:39] <Cream> Why does my X crash when i minimize firefox sometimes?
[21:39] <LjL> ejer: actually, heck, i could just use the information in the CUE file itself
[21:39] <ejer> i would just google it ljl, not aware of any offhand
[21:39] <cwillu> Davyboy, give it more than 30 seconds please
[21:39] <dholbert> Lapinux: what stuff behind
[21:39] <dholbert> Lapinux: and are you sure you did complete removal?
[21:40] <stbain> ty for the info, and I'll try my installs later this evening
[21:40] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, yep, I got the rest of the pastebins
[21:40] <noelferreira> my keys get stuck sometimes and other times don't work. can anyone help me with this huge bug: http://pastebin.com/m7bc88052
[21:40] <dholbert> Lapinux: rather than just "mark for removal"?
[21:40] <Lapinux> dholbert: when i tried to remove compiz that way it left config files behind
[21:40] <Some_Person> Cream: does your HD spin quickly while using FF?
[21:40] <Lapinux> dholbert: yes
[21:40] <ejer> casdf: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_admin/buffer-cache.html
[21:40] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: blacklist http://pastebin.com/m3cc5f439
[21:40] <Cream> Some_Person i ahve no idea
[21:40] <Lapinux> i need to remove xine, its giving me problems
[21:40] <dholbert> Lapinux:  do you know where those configs are?
[21:40] <Davyboy> cwillu:  ok the convo's are going pretty fast so I wasn't sure anybody saw
[21:40] <simmerz> Lapinux: you need to purge packages to remove config files
[21:40] <Cream> Some_Person it doesnt sound like its spinning faster than normal'
[21:40] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: first one is still blank
[21:41] <LjL> ejer: it's annoying, because CD rippers (i've used kaudiocreator) do this easily, but they insist on actually having, well, a CD
[21:41] <Lapinux> dholbert: yes, i tool care of that problem, im on to another...  after upgrading i have some apps that are acting up
[21:41] <Some_Person> Cream: well is your computer slow when using FF?
[21:41] <cwillu> Davyboy, yep, but half of the the conversation is people asking things for the 3rd and 4th times :)
[21:41] <Lapinux> dholbert: compiz broke, as did xine and audacious
[21:41] <Cream> Some_Person no i dont think so
[21:41] <dholbert> Lapinux: k, dunno
[21:41] <ejer> LjL: easytag will do it with files, maybe run it in vnc or as a forwarded X app?
[21:41] <Trae> if anyone gets the .dmrc error... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7296  this helped me out (The Alan Pope repsonse down the page)
[21:41] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, what about ls /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?
[21:41] <wolfy_> need help with ndiswrapper
[21:41] <Davyboy> cwillu:  ha ok i can be patient
[21:41] <casdf> ejer: i was reading the - buffers/cache line under free
[21:41] <Some_Person> Cream: huh, because i know a bug that does cause memory issues and sometimes crashing, thought it might be affecting you
[21:42] <Lapinux> dholbert: oh, cant forget i lose sound in linux when running an xp host in vbox, didnt have that problem before the upgrade to 8.04 either
[21:42] <dholbert> Lapinux: same here
[21:42] <LjL> ejer, hmm, i need this to be run from crontab...
[21:42] <dholbert> Lapinux: don't know of a fix
[21:42] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: rules=http://pastebin.com/m532221d
[21:42] <M1DLG> I only came here today this time for a little help to get my taskbar off the desktop back where it belongs, the top one has shifted to the right hand side, and the bottemone has gone al to gether
[21:42] <Lapinux> dholbert: for vbox, you have the same problem?
[21:42] <dholbert> Lapinux: yup
[21:42] <ejer> LjL: it is certainly doable
[21:42] <Fishscene> Lapinux, it seems the new audio stuff in Hardy Heron won't allow more than 1 audio stream at once.
[21:42] <Lapinux> dholbert: sucks huh, i used to keep the vm running all the time
[21:42] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, k, so it's just empty
[21:43] <Some_Person> Fishscene: not true
[21:43] <Lapinux> Fishscene: yeah, i found that out after pulling my hair out for a while, then i was like hey, my vm is off and i have sound
[21:43] <scraga1> 1 quick q, is it gisomount or gmountiso that's the nautilus plugin?
[21:43] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: so how we fix it?
[21:43] <cschneid> I used xrandr to setup dual monitors, and it almost works.  I do "xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto --left-of VGA-0" to turn on my dvi connection, and it does turn on, at the right resolution, but then it flashes on and off without end.  Any ideas why?
[21:43] <archie_leach> does anyone know how to get Vmware Workstation work on Ubuntu 8.04 as host?
[21:43] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, working on it :p
[21:44] <Fishscene> Some_Person, should I file a bug report then? I can't even play music and watch a video at the same time. :\
[21:44] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: O:-)
[21:44] <JeffATL> if ubuntu's "automagic" business is handling xorg configuration (there is now no xorg.conf on the box in question), then if i need to set up a wacom tablet and would need to add a section to xorg.conf to handle it, will it work if i have an xorg.conf that contains just the wacom section?
[21:44] <Fishscene> archie_leach, I was unable to do so. Although the question might be more suitable in #VMware
[21:44] <cwillu> arc_shmo1, are you registered on nickserv?
[21:44] <arc_shmo1> no
[21:44] <cschneid> archie_leach, you need to patch a few of the kernel modules, but I just installed it and it seems to be working
[21:44] <Some_Person> Fishscene: Go to System --> Preferences --> Sound --> Sounds Tab and see if the check box at the top is checked
[21:44] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: no
[21:44] <cwillu> bah
[21:44] <doug_> will i need to download compiz for emerald to work?
[21:44] <cwillu> can you?
[21:44] <casdf> also, how do i go about changing the timeout on grub?
[21:44] <ejer> you guys with vbox audio problems, look at second reply here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/202957
[21:44] <cwillu> !register
[21:44] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: how
[21:44] <Flare183> !register | arc_shmo1
[21:45] <cschneid> archie_leach, check out http://igordevlog.blogspot.com/2008/03/vmware-603-in-ubuntu-hardy-804-kernel.html
[21:45] <ejer> lapinux look at second reply here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/202957
[21:45] <archie_leach> cschneid: what does I have to patch?
[21:45] <archie_leach> cschneid: ok I see, I will check that
[21:45] <ejer> Lapinux: sorry, first comment
[21:45] <Fishscene> ﻿Some_Person, yes. The options "Enable software sound mixing (ESD)" and "Play System sounds" are both checked.
[21:46] <Some_Person> Fishscene: What 2 programs are you trying to use at the same time?
[21:46] <Cream> Some_Person it crashed again :S
[21:46] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: one moment
[21:46] <Lapinux> ejer: i will check it out, i dont use the ose but we'll see
[21:46] <billenium> Hey. I have dual-booted Linux Ubuntu and Vista. Is there anyway i can access my Vista partition from Linux? Thanks :)
[21:46] <ejer> Lapinux: same dif
[21:46] <echogen> mmmmmmmm
[21:47] <Fishscene> Any combination: Rythmbox, Movie Player, Youtube.com, etc...
[21:47] <Sloloem> Is there actually any way, even with a 3rd party script, to get status on services based on the init script?  In gentoo all the scripts in /etc/init.d/ had a consistent interface and all supported the "status" action, I can't seem to find that ubuntu has that and it's really quite disappointing.
[21:47] <Some_Person> Cream: Go to Edit --> Preferences --> Security Tab and disable both "Tell me if..." checkboxes
[21:47] <hischild> billenium: that's done by default most likely. Check under places if you see a drive there.
[21:47] <doug_> will i need to download compiz for emerald to work?
[21:47] <Lapinux> ejer: even if it does work, it still stands that the upgrade wrecked a bunch of things on my system :(
[21:47] <cschneid> anybody have any idea on my screen issue?
[21:47] <billenium> I see something called 99GB volume.
[21:47] <Cream> Some_Person why? :P
[21:47] <crdlb> doug_: compiz is already installed on hardy, but yes you need to use it
[21:47] <ejer> Lapinux: most likely just changed rather than wrecked ;)
[21:47] <Some_Person> Cream: that is known to solve many FF bugs
[21:48] <billenium> Do i have to mount the partition first or...?
[21:48] <doug_> crdlb: does compiz have to be running for me to run emerald?
[21:48] <fantasai> I can't boot into Ubuntu: it stops loading at the disk check. ANy ideas?
[21:48] <Lapinux> ejer: well im talking about, xine, audacious, and compiz as well
[21:48] <volkswagner> I am looking for help,  spdif passthrough  on ATI HDA SB running alsa mythbuntu 7.10, broke after updates.  I have been trying to fix it for three weeks?
[21:48] <Fishscene> ﻿Some_Person, I'm going to reboot. I think I goofed the audio and need to restart it.
[21:48] <fantasai> I tried running fsck on the liveCD and everything checked out ok
[21:48] <KR-data> is there a repository for OOo 3 beta?
[21:48] <Lapinux> ejer: my vbox guest was set to use alsa, i just switched it to pulse, so we will see
[21:48] <Some_Person> Fishscene: ok
[21:48] <fantasai> except the swap partition, which I ran mkswap on
[21:49] <crdlb> doug_: yes
[21:49] <sectech> I just bought a new hard drive... and I am trying to install hardy.... The kernel doesn't seem to want to recognize the sata drive... yet a gusty install CD will read the drive fine....
[21:49] <sectech> any ideas?
[21:49] <wolfy_> groans
[21:49] <Sloloem> There's sysvconfig, that installs a script that immitates the 'service' command from redhat, but all it does is call the initscript, which if it doesn't have the status action, is useless.
[21:50] <Davyboy> cwillu? did you dissapear
[21:50] <sectech> I hope that groan wasn't for me lol.... I actually do know what I'm doing,  just wondering if there were any other complaints like this
[21:50] <cwillu> Davyboy, no, just needed a cleaner channel to give somebody a couple dozen commands
[21:50] <cwillu> Davyboy, although if you want, I _can_ just disappear :p
[21:51] <Lapinux> ejer: nope, no sound
[21:51] <Davyboy> cwillu =-Onooo
[21:51] <volkswagner> Here my thread for broken sound.  I cant get anywhere after 3weeks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753433
[21:51]  * cdecarlo needs a haircut
[21:52]  * Mimi cuts cdecarlo's hair
[21:52] <blankhead> could someone recommend me one of the best all in one printers that work fantastically in ubuntu?
[21:52] <wolfy_> anyone know how to use ndiswrapper for Realtek 802.11B/G Wireless
[21:52] <Fishscene> Back
[21:52] <dragonrider8> hello
[21:52] <mistiipu> i mean a client on proxy can do anything like he is on his own dsl connection? until the server restricts something?
[21:52] <Trae> ubottu, mp3?
[21:52] <volkswagner> All in one, Brother has great linux support I have MFC 5440cn
[21:52] <cdecarlo> 'and they called it puppylove'
[21:53] <volkswagner> It is a network printer to boot
[21:53] <dragonrider8> i have some problem with my computer , it seem to not be stable . Do you know a program on ubuntu which can permit me to stress the GPU ?
[21:53] <blankhead> volkswagner: who makes it?
[21:53] <Bsims> anyone else having issues with the MIT mirror and upgrading libqt4?
[21:53] <cip_ubuntuuser> can anyone help me? I have trouble with my pppoe over ethernet connection :(
[21:53]  * Bsims grrs I am getting 404
[21:54] <KR-data> Bsims, probably stressed since it was just released
[21:54] <sectech> cip_ubuntuuser,  you got further then me.... I can't even use the desktop cd for hardy lol
[21:54] <Cream> skype plus videos/music how do i do it? :P
[21:54] <cip_ubuntuuser> :)
[21:54] <Bsims> KR-data: its a fast stable mirror I looked the packages simply arn't there
[21:54]  * sectech thinks.... 
[21:54] <Bsims> I'll try it again in an hour but still annoying
[21:54] <aiaidevil> how do you enable the permission to write to a file?
[21:55] <KR-data> Bsims, maybe the mirror hasn't been updated yet then
[21:55] <sectech> updated kernel.... but people would have reported that....
[21:55] <sectech> not being able to use the CDs
[21:55] <Bsims> Yeah thats what I am thinking
[21:55] <ejer> dragonrider8: maybe http://www.lockergnome.com/linux/2004/10/04/linux-gpu-benchmarks/
[21:55] <Kohlrak> how do i over-ride ubuntu's decision on what GPU i'm using? dpkg-reconfigure only deals with mouse and keyboard now.
[21:55] <dragonrider8> i take a look , thaks ejer
[21:55] <Bsims> KR-data: BTW this is a /fast/ mirror I get over 500kbs and was at 1meg
[21:56] <Bsims> KR-data: want it for upgrade nights?
[21:56] <aiaidevil> I want to enable writing permission to a file, how do I do that?
[21:56] <Fishscene> Some_Person: I can't explain it, but it seems I can now play videos AND listen to music at the same time. I haven't been able to get this to work since Hardy Heron came out O_o
[21:56] <KR-data> Bsims, well I would love to have a look
[21:56] <coldboot|work> How do you get the uncompressed version of bzImage or vmlinuz for Ubuntu? I need vmlinux to run oprofile.
[21:56] <ejer> anyone successfully using firebug in FF3b5?
[21:56] <Fishscene> Some_Person: Now that I think about it, I did install some updates today... But Thanks for checking things out for me! :)
[21:56] <Some_Person> Fishscene: strange... but it's worked for me since Hardy-RC
[21:56] <aiaidevil> How do I switch user to root?
[21:56] <Sloloem> sudo -s
[21:56] <Bsims> KR-data: http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu/
[21:57] <KR-data> Bsims, since it doesn't matter to me to get the updates 6 hours earlier if they take 10 hours more to install :p
[21:57] <KR-data> Bsims,
[21:57] <Dekkard> !root
[21:57] <KR-data> Bsims, thanks
[21:57] <sectech> hrmmm.... k I don't want to repeat my question.... I triage your bugs ppl lol lol
[21:57] <steph291> I'm running two instance of xawtv on a celeron 600, 400mb ram, one bttv and one quickcam usb :)))) awsome !!!
[21:57]  * Bsims got one meg per second on the night of a release with that
[21:58] <ejer> sectech: do you know what drive controller you use? have you tried modprobing it
[21:58]  * Bsims scoots
[21:59] <KR-data> Cream, got an answer for the skype question?
[21:59] <sectech> ejer: I can't even get that far.... As soon as I put in the CD I get a initramfs prompt
[21:59] <Cream> KR-data nope :(
[21:59] <ejer> sectech: have u tried booting without quiet option
[21:59] <sectech> I had hardy on this machine before on a regular ATA drive
[21:59] <KR-data> Cream, you need to have a look at the alsa-settings
[22:00] <bladerunner> anyone know how to remove all wallpaper entries in the appearnace dialogue without clicking each individual wallpaper and then remove?  you can't select all.  these images must be in some conf file somewhere that I can just erase?
[22:00] <Cream> how where? :p
[22:00] <ejer> sectech: the CD is bailing, nothing to do with hard drive from your description
[22:00] <Cream> KR-data
[22:00] <echogen> i think this partitioning issue is the biggest prob for me now
[22:00] <arc_shmoo> cwillu: crashed comp flashing num lock and caps lock
[22:00] <magnetron> what's a good hexeditor in the ubuntu repos?
[22:00] <KR-data> Cream, usually gnome would use esd for sound, if I remember correctly, but since Skype only support alsa and oss at the moment, then that has to be the solution
[22:00] <steph291> running two instance of xawtv on a celeron 600, 400mb ram, one bttv and one quickcam usb :)))) awsome !!! better than that it's a remmote ubuntu, I'm connected to it using xdmcp !
[22:01] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, sounds like fun!
[22:01] <cwillu> arc_shmoo, okay, give it a reboot
[22:01] <steph291> it's really smooth
[22:01] <KR-data> Cream, if I remember correctly you have to activate dmix, and then override the default in alsa, which sound card do you have?
[22:02] <Cream> KR-data onboard on my gigabyte (think its a DS3)
[22:02] <Cream> KR-data can you explain more detailed? :P im not that good at this
[22:02] <sectech> ejer,  I see where your coming from.... but I don't think it's the CD.... This one worked before.... brb
[22:02] <hischild> bladerunner: didn't we have a search for that one earlier?
[22:02] <ejer> sectech: not saying it is phys cd, but it is the cdrom or cd that is not booting
[22:02] <Sensae> How close is development of Ubuntu and Kubuntu? I'm in the Ubuntu live CD and I have sound (I didn't in 7.xx). Should I be able to assume I'd get sound in Kubuntu now?
[22:02] <bladerunner> hischild: i didn't find anything after 2 hours so i closed it
[22:03] <bladerunner> hischild: perhaps I need to updatedb
[22:03] <ejer> sectech: unless i am misunderstanding, you are not trying to boot installed ubuntu correct? just livecd?
[22:03] <KR-data> Cream, if you open an terminal and type alsamixer, it should write the name of the soundcard in the top left corner :)
[22:03] <bobbo> What packages do you install to give file-roller 7z support?
[22:03] <KR-data> Cream, I'm too lazy to research it, if the name of the card is shown there ;)
[22:03] <bladerunner> hischild: now I'm just here to see if anyone know where in the ~/ folder it will be!
[22:03] <Cream> KR-data HDA Intel
[22:04] <Cream> KR-data Realtek ALC883
[22:04] <ejer> bobbo: p7zip
[22:04] <sectech> ejer, it's just the livecd at the moment.....
[22:04] <KR-data> Cream, ok, googling for a useful config ;)
[22:04] <bobbo> thanks ejer :)
[22:04] <sectech> ejer, I am trying to boot without the quiet
[22:04] <ejer> that should give some info sectech
[22:04] <Cream> KR-data youre the best! :D
[22:04] <KR-data> Cream, surround card?
[22:04] <hischild> bladerunner: ah i see. Well, i found one thing that will search for it, just won't show files yet. It would at least tell you if it's there. for i in $(find ~ -type f | grep .conf) ; do grep 1600 $i; done
[22:05] <Cream> KR-data yes
[22:05] <Cream> KR-data but i dont use it :P
[22:05] <sectech> ahh.... it crashes right after hid-core.c  and then a few seconds later I get ata1.00 failed to identify
[22:05] <KR-data> Cream, ok :) I'll be back in a minute, after a little searching ;)
[22:05] <sectech> yet the gusty livecd works fine.
[22:06] <jtaylor13> hello all
[22:06] <rohan> when i do aptitude dist-upgrade, it seems that aptitude is trying to fetch from wrong location -- y installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:06] <rohan> Need to get 20.2MB of archives. After unpacking 12.6MB will be used.
[22:06] <rohan> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
[22:06] <rohan> oops, sorry
[22:06] <rohan> Writing extended state information... Done
[22:06] <FloodBot1> rohan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <rohan> the ip address resolved for archive.ubuntu.com by aptitude is wrong. how do i remedy that?
[22:06] <mdale> are the ubuntu repositories going slow for anyone else?
[22:07] <Kohlrak> how do i override my video configuration in hardy?
[22:07] <hischild> bladerunner: i bring news.
[22:07] <ejer> sectech: try booting with option acpi=off
[22:07] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: yes
[22:07] <hischild> bladerunner: for i in $(find ~ -type f | grep .conf) ; do grep -l 1600 $i; done <== will output files containing 1600.
[22:07] <Sensae> Wish me luck - installing 8.04 :)
[22:07] <hischild> bladerunner: as in filenames.
[22:07] <sectech> an acpi problem... that wouldn't surprise me
[22:07] <rohan> Sensae: best of luck ;)
[22:08] <kling0n> hello :) I'm getting a fair amount of these errors:  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.LimitsExceeded: The maximum number of active connections for UID 1001 has been reached
[22:08] <filthpig> does anyone know anything about the OpenGL 3 release?
[22:08] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: thanks its running now but not much showing
[22:08] <kling0n> after an upgrade to hardy
[22:08] <kling0n> where do I adjust this?
[22:08] <bladerunner> hischild:does it do hidden files to?
[22:08] <hischild> bladerunner: it opens every file ... i've tested it here, it does run. If you're talking about folders with a period, yes.
[22:08] <hischild> bladerunner: considering it found a match here in /home/hischild/.openarena/baseoa/q3config.cfg ;-)
[22:08] <sectech> nope..... k.... I'll take it apart and check the connection (just for shits and giggles)
[22:08] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: cool
[22:09] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: nice
[22:09] <ejer> sectech: cabling was my next step ;)
[22:10] <edju> running on wireless.  ifconfig -a reports wlan0 as Link encap:Ethernet, and iwconfig shows wlan0 w/ no ip.  normal, or is something amiss?
[22:11] <Kohlrak> Crimany, i my as well be running windows. At least it can use my GPU...................................................\
[22:11] <rohan> what was ubotu renamed to ubottu ?
[22:11] <zChris> Kohlrak: ati?
[22:11] <hischild> bladerunner: any luck?
[22:11] <Starnestommy> rohan: the original ubotu went down
[22:11] <rohan> Starnestommy: ah ok
[22:11] <cwillu> rohan, ubotu is sick
[22:11] <Kohlrak> zChris, yulp
[22:11] <hischild> bladerunner: one thing it might do, is just either symlink the folder or copy the images over.
[22:11] <zChris> Kohlrak: blame ATI for not providing decent drivers :<
[22:12] <bladerunner> hischild: no it finds this "find: /home/keito/.dbus: Permission denied ... grep: /home/keito/Music/haiku: No such file or directory" even when i change "1600" to "desktop6_1024.jpg"
[22:12] <Kohlrak> zChris, it worked better on gutsy, now it sucks on hardy........
[22:12] <kling0n> !dbus | kling0n
[22:12] <hischild> bladerunner: hmm ... odd.
[22:12] <bladerunner> hischild: yeah
[22:12] <zChris> Kohlrak: same drivers ?
[22:12] <hischild> bladerunner: let me check that. Let me add a paper.
[22:12] <Kohlrak> same card, i don't knwo if it's using the same drivers or not.
[22:13] <bladerunner> hischild: k
[22:13] <glavanway> Hello all
[22:13] <briza> ewerson.castro@uol.com.br
[22:13] <Kohlrak> zchris, i used to get 59 frames per second in mupen, now i have 10
[22:14] <zChris> Kohlrak: is DRI enabled?
[22:14] <sectech> This might be a little amusing if it wasn't happening to me....
[22:14] <Kohlrak> zChris, i have no clue... dpkg-reconfigure doesn't even work anymore so i can't even tell hardy what card i have. It says i have XPress 200, when i have XPress 1150
[22:15] <arc_shmo1> cwillu: ok
[22:15] <zChris> Kohlrak: try glxinfo | grep direct
[22:15] <glavanway> test
[22:15] <KR-data> Cream, ok found something that might help
[22:15] <glavanway> -!- test
[22:15] <sectech> there has to be something about this kernel....
[22:15] <glavanway> ?
[22:15] <onefunk> hey all, is there a data management tool that can search for and organize all types of files? (so i can add notes, change labels et cetera)
[22:16] <Kohlrak> zCrhis, direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[22:16] <KR-data> Cream, used to using a console or something like that?
[22:16] <ejer> sectech: have you md5'd the cd?
[22:16] <sectech> I'll try a test install of gusty...
[22:16] <Sloloem> Is there an easy way to find when a package was installed?
[22:16] <sectech> ejer,  no I haven't... but that's a good idea
[22:16] <Cream> KR-data nope but i can try
[22:16] <ejer> just to be sure sectech
[22:16] <zChris> Kohlrak: hm, have you instaleld the ati drivers ? propritary ?
[22:16] <KR-data> Cream, don't worry, type: gedit ~/.asoundrc
[22:17] <cdecarlo> onefunk: maybe I'm missing something but aren't you describing a filesystem?
[22:17] <KR-data> Cream, it should open an empty texteditor, ready to insert your sound configuration
[22:17] <Kohlrak> zChris.... I don't have that option, it installs some generic ATI drivers instead ("ATI Accelerated Graphics Drivers") in the hardware drivers menu
[22:17] <Cream> KR-data yup
[22:17] <zChris> Kohlrak: those are installed?
[22:18] <Kohlrak> zChris, those are enabled too.... XD
[22:18] <hischild> bladerunner: wait, this was all assuming it did save it in a .conf. It should've been a .xml. /home/hischild/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml
[22:18] <zChris> Kohlrak: what driver do your X use?
[22:18] <Cream> KR-data what should i insert there? :p
[22:18] <KR-data> Cream, try copying the text on http://pastebin.ca/1011101 into the document, then save and close it
[22:18] <torben> Having a real annoying problem with Hardy+Firefox+*Java...
[22:18] <Kohlrak> zChris, no clue.... Hence the comment about windows.
[22:19] <onefunk> cdecarlo, not quite. i'm looking for a gui that can do a search for file types i specify. for instance if i want to rework my music collection it will search for music files only.
[22:19] <zChris> Kohlrak: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[22:19] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: yeah that onyl saves the location of the single current wallpaper not all the possible ones
[22:19] <mad_max02> is there a way to customize pidgin like msn with skins and custom smileys ?
[22:19] <bladerunner> ﻿hischild: but you are right it prob is an xml
[22:19] <glavanway> Hello
[22:19] <torben> Installed Seamonkey, and it seems it has 'taken over' the Java module from Firefox 2.0 ?!
[22:19] <onefunk> cdecarlo, kinda like http://www.datacrow.net/
[22:19] <Cream> KR-data the update or the one above? :p
[22:19] <glavanway> hello
[22:20] <ejer> onefunk: applications>accessories>tracker search tool?
[22:20] <hischild> bladerunner: it has a list of 5 wall papers. The 4 default ones and the one i just added.
[22:20] <hischild> bladerunner: at least, it does here.
[22:20] <KR-data> Cream, the text in the paste from the url i pasted
[22:20] <zChris> What should i use instead of update-modules? It says it is deprecated and dont give me any alternative
[22:20] <glavanway> This is much better
[22:20] <hischild> anyway, for i in $(find ~ -type f | grep back ) ; do grep -l <image name here> "$i"; done
[22:20] <sectech> md5sum checks out... and gusty recognizes the hard drive totally...
[22:20] <Cream> KR-data there are two configs
[22:20] <KR-data> Cream, http://pastebin.ca/raw/1011101 the raw edition with out line numbers etc
[22:20] <Kohlrak> zchris, you want this? Driver		"fglrx"
[22:21] <cdecarlo> onefunk: why don't you use that then?
[22:21] <Cream> KR-data saved-- now what? :P
[22:21] <nixnoob> hey my update manager greys out when i hit install updates
[22:22] <bladerunner> hischild: you are indeed right and i am wrong, sorry.  i meant this file which i found earlier /home/keito/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background/%gconf.xml
[22:22] <ejer> sectech: i don't get where the hard drive comes into the picture... until you want to install anyways
[22:22] <KR-data> Cream, restart skype
[22:22] <bladerunner> hischild: thank you soooo much
[22:22] <jaran> I'm having problems with fullscreen games etc. After a random time the fullscreen ap windows down
[22:22] <zChris> Karlprof: hmm, yeah, i think you are suppose to use that one aswell, but apparently you dont have DRI which is needed for good performance afaik
[22:22] <bladerunner> ﻿jaran:  scrrensaver
[22:22] <hischild> bladerunner: you're welcome.
[22:22] <Cream> KR-data should be fixed? :p
[22:22] <Sloloem> Ok...changing my mind...is there ANY way to get the date a package was installed?
[22:22] <KR-data> Cream, in the terminal type: speaker-test -c 2 -t wav
[22:22] <KR-data> Cream, and the try calling echo123 in skype
[22:22] <glavanway> How do I colorize?
[22:22] <sectech> ejer, Okay maybe I got two problems.... but it wasn't like this when I had my ata drive hooked up
[22:22]  * bladerunner don's his hat to lord hischild
[22:23] <onefunk> cdecarlo, cause i'm a newbie and i am still confused about installing stuff i've downloaded off the net
[22:23] <Cream> KR-data should i type that with skype launched or killeD?
[22:23] <Kohlrak> zChris, whas that last one to me?
[22:23] <KR-data> Cream, if you can hear both at the same time it worked
[22:23] <ejer> Sloloem: sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log ?
[22:23] <Sloloem> ejer: How far back does that go?
[22:23] <ejer> sectech: u can boot livecd with no hard drive installed even
[22:23] <KR-data> Cream, well type it when it's lauched, but it shouldn't matter :)
[22:23] <jaran> bladerunner.. hehe that was fast. is this a problem with shutting down the monitor as well or only screensaver?
[22:23]  * hischild accepts hat and puts on hat. 
[22:23] <ejer> go look Sloloem ;)
[22:23] <Cream> KR-data i get no sound from either of them
[22:24] <prakriti> ubuntu is insisting on putting purple glows around my windows
[22:24] <zChris> Kohlrak: yeah :)
[22:24] <cdecarlo> onefunk: from the way they describe it, sounds like it's just a bunch of jar files, you should read up on running jar files
[22:24] <Cream> KR-data  pcm.nforce-hw {
[22:24] <Cream>    type hw
[22:24] <Cream>    card 0
[22:24] <Cream>  }
[22:24] <Cream>  pcm.!default {
[22:24] <FloodBot1> Cream: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:24] <Cream>    type plug
[22:24] <bladerunner> ﻿jaran: no just i had it too even though i thought it couldn't be it was.  turned it off and never had it since
[22:24] <prakriti> if I go into the window decoration settings and change the shadow they dissapear, but then they come back later
[22:24] <glavanway> kja
[22:24] <KR-data> Cream, don't paste in here
[22:24] <Kohlrak> zChris, any ideas on what i  can do about it?
[22:24] <bladerunner> ﻿jaran: thught mine was random timing too but hey! ;)
[22:24] <KR-data> Cream, use for example pastebin.ca
[22:24] <cschneid> ok, I've narrowed down my monitor issue.  I have 2 monitors, VGA and DVI.  If either is on by itself, they display 1600x1200. If I turn them both on with xrandr, either overlapping or --left-of, the DVI monitor starts flashing, and doesn't display.  Turning off either brings it back.  Ideas?
[22:24] <KR-data> Cream, or the one floodbot1 suggested
[22:25] <zChris> Kohlrak: google :)
[22:25] <bladerunner> ﻿jaran: i turned off both so couldn't say
[22:25] <churchil_> dear sirs, how would say you would make that wireless keyring prompt stop prompting
[22:25] <Kohlrak> thanks
[22:25] <Cream> KR-data sorry i pasted wrong thing :P
[22:25] <jaran> bladerunner.. ok, thanks! u saved me alot of time:)
[22:25] <KR-data> Cream, it's ok, you just risk getting banned :) but everyone does it once ;)
[22:25] <Sloloem> ejer: yeah that's 2 days.  There's no program or spiffy way to manipulate dpkg/apt to just get a simple answer?  I see zipped older logs, but that's a hell of a lot of parsing.
[22:25] <caleb_> I need someone who is familiar with the command wget to help me
[22:25] <Cream> KR-data http://pastebin.ca/1011110
[22:26] <sectech> good question.... I am doing a test install of gusty first just to see if the hard drive is working out
[22:26] <KR-data> Cream, duh, something's already using the resource, any programs open?
[22:27] <Cream> KR-data firefox
[22:27] <glavanway> my name is glavanway
[22:27] <unbkbl> hello! i've a little question, somebody can tell me how to redirect a range of ports using iptables?
[22:27] <Kohlrak> zChris, you still here?
[22:27] <Cream> KR-data i think is the only thing with sound
[22:27] <jescis> hello, I'm back >)
[22:27] <zChris> Kohlrak: yes ?
[22:27] <KR-data> Cream, ok, close it just in case, but I think you got the esound deamon running
[22:27] <mad_max02> I cant install scripts in amarok. I always get some kde crash error. What can I do about it ?
[22:27] <samu> hi all
[22:28] <glavanway> 1
[22:28] <Kohlrak> zChris, i found the solution but i don't get it. It says "if you add "--indirect-rendering" to the command to start compiz, it really speeds things up." Where can i add that?
[22:28] <torben> Anyone knows why installing Seamonkey 'robs' Firefox it's java capabillities ?1
[22:28] <sectech> I could always try the alternate cd I suppose, but I imagine it's the same kernel version
[22:28] <KR-data> Cream, you gotta help me here, I don't remember the gnome-menus that well, but isn't there a place for some sound configs?
[22:28] <t04no> hi. i'm looking for a tool that graphically shows the amount of disk-space files/directories consume (like this view in konqueror did). anyone ?
[22:28] <Cream> KR-data i dont know but now the command works
[22:29] <zChris> Kohlrak: hmm, i think its in xsessions
[22:29] <Cream> KR-data and i can hear skype too i think
[22:29] <jrib> t04no: applications -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer
[22:29] <Cream> KR-data i cant
[22:29] <Kohlrak> t04no, try applications>accessories
[22:29] <TooFly> anyone recommend your favorite music player in ubuntu?
[22:29] <Uberdummy> anyone else experiencing extreeeemmely slow DL speed from us.archive.ubuntu.com or is it just me?
[22:29] <GhostFish> Someone able to help out with an ATI card and Compiz ????
[22:29] <KR-data> Cream, bugger
[22:29] <Cream> KR-data i can only hear the signal but when i answer my friends call it just cancels
[22:29] <Kohlrak> zChris, where's that? I'm still kind of new to ubuntu, so i don't know where things are.
[22:29] <jrib> !player | TooFly
[22:29] <Cripp> hello
[22:29] <plummet> i am new to ubuntu (but love it) and i need an explanation of exactly how to install something that isnt in the repository
[22:29] <frostburn> TooFly, amarok.
[22:29] <zChris> Kohlrak: but i think you have to ask the more advanced in here. Im not sure where it starts compiz
[22:29] <Kohlrak> Ghostfish, i have teh same problem, we're working on it
[22:30] <TooFly> Thanks
[22:30] <Cream> KR-data how can i get into that config file again? :P i want to go back to normal for now :P
[22:30] <zChris> Kohlrak: are you running compiz at all?
[22:30] <cdecarlo> onefunk: ya man, it totally runs on linux, just grab the zipped archive, extract it your home and run it with java -Xmx256m -jar datacrow.jar
[22:30] <unbkbl> hello! i've a little question, somebody can tell me how to redirect a range of ports using iptables?
[22:30] <Kohlrak> zChris, you bet.
[22:30] <Davybo1> cwillu:  sry it just froze u trying to resume again
[22:30] <KR-data> Cream, you can just remove it by typing: rm ~/.asoundrc
[22:30] <zChris> Kohlrak: hmm, what was your card now again=
[22:31] <Kohlrak> Xpress 1150
[22:31] <glavanway> 2
[22:31] <Cream> KR-data thankyou :)
[22:31] <cdecarlo> onefunk: the instructions are in the readme.txt
[22:31] <Kohlrak> hm, the post i'm reading seems to have some other solutions, i'll try looking at them while i'm at it
[22:31] <KR-data> Cream, no problem, I'm not sure I can fix your problem, but I think I know where  you can ask
[22:31] <caleb_> I need someone who is familiar with the command wget to help me
[22:31] <mad_max02> I cant install scripts in amarok. I always get some kde crash error. What can I do about it ?
[22:31] <mad_max02> I cant install scripts in amarok. I always get some kde crash error. What can I do about it ?
[22:32] <onefunk> cdecarlo, cool. thanks. i'll give it a shot. cheers
[22:32] <Cream> KR-data where is that?
[22:32] <cdecarlo> onefunk: thank you, looks like a neat application
[22:32] <zChris> Kohlrak: do you have Load "dri" and Load "glx" in your xorg.conf?
[22:33] <KR-data> Cream, the channel #alsa is the right place, the problem lies in your soundcard not being able to hardware-mixing (actually most cards to my knowledge can't do that) and therefore the sound-channel is blocked by the first program that claims it
[22:33] <GhostFish> kohlrak: what card you have ??? I have a eax1950 pro ...
[22:33] <Cream> KR-data but it works with XP :P
[22:33] <apgob> k3b sucks so muchh
[22:33] <Kohlrak> i have xpress 1150 ATI
[22:33] <KR-data> Cream, esd as I mentioned before is to my knowledge a fix for this, though I've never used esd, so I'm not entirely sure
[22:34] <zChris> Kohlrak: you got my last msg ?
[22:34] <SlimThug875> i need some real expert help! anyone willing to help message me. thnx
[22:34] <KR-data> Cream, well the sound drivers from your manufacturer should enable software mixing in xp automatically
[22:34] <hubuntu> SlimThug875, what is the issue?
[22:34] <SlimThug875> .dmg file
[22:34] <Kohlrak> oh sorry... i'm not sure... lemme recheck
[22:34] <hubuntu> this isn't mac
[22:34] <LaneLimited> I got gnome figured out with the desktop effects compiz app...... What do i get to make KDE 4 do COOL stuff
[22:34] <GhostFish> kohlrak: ubuntu issue , Compiz issue or a ati driver issue ?????/
[22:34] <hubuntu> what you need for a dmg file?
[22:35] <KR-data> Cream, but I'm pretty sure that's what happens, since I had a lot problems like them with earlier versions of Skype
[22:35] <hubuntu> SlimThug875?
[22:35] <CelticLord_> nuit!!!
[22:35] <SlimThug875> i have ubuntu on a dell pc i want to install a ".dmg" file
[22:35] <KR-data> hubuntu, dmg is an image format used for Mac OS X
[22:35] <SlimThug875> its garage band o8
[22:35] <Kohlrak> Not sure yet ghostfish
[22:35] <SlimThug875> isnt there a way to use it?
[22:35] <Amun> .dmg = mac os X.
[22:35] <Amun> no SlimThug875, different OS.
[22:35] <SlimThug875> i understand that
[22:36] <GhostFish> K..
[22:36] <Amun> its like running microsoft office for win XP on ubuntu ;p
[22:36] <SlimThug875> i want to use the program tho on this comp
[22:36] <Kohlrak> no, i don't zChris, should i try that?
[22:36] <lpanebr> hello! my internet provider reports that I am downloading and uploading 1-2 GB/day !!! how to find out what is happening? this happens with my gutsy box turned on with only firefox open end nothing else...
[22:36] <KR-data> SlimThug875, is your computer a mac?
[22:36] <SlimThug875> no
[22:36] <GhostFish> kohlrak: Can you get the fglx drivers loaded ??
[22:36] <SlimThug875> its dell
[22:36] <Kohlrak> ya, ghostfish, what's wrong with yours?
[22:36] <SlimThug875> is there any possible way to use the file?
[22:36] <Amun> SlimThug875: dell is the maker.
[22:37] <Sensae> w00t
[22:37] <dmsuperman_> lpanebr, have wireless?
[22:37] <Sensae> System fully working!
[22:37] <Amun> no SlimThug875, unless your running mac os X, then no.
[22:37] <SlimThug875> its a dell system
[22:37] <hubuntu> SlimThug875 no
[22:37] <Sensae> I have sound, full 3D rending and Compiz out of the box
[22:37] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: not... cablemodem
[22:37] <KR-data> SlimThug875, ok, I don't think it works with anything other that mac, but try to search for "mac4linux"
[22:37] <zChris> Kohlrak: yeah try Load "dri" and Load "glx" in the modules section, be sure to make a backup of your current xorg.conf yhough
[22:37] <GhostFish> kohlrak: I can't even load mine
[22:37] <Cream> KR-data whats ESD? :p
[22:37] <Amun> Sensae: awesome, huh?
[22:37] <jrib> SlimThug875: probably not.  email apple and tell them you would like them to provide the software for linux
[22:37] <Kohlrak> zChris, should i change glx to dri or just add a line that says "load "dri""?
[22:37] <dmsuperman_> lpanebr, so you have no wireless?
[22:37] <SlimThug875> so there is n possible way to get to use garage band 08 on my comp?
[22:37] <lpanebr> I have amule installed but it was not runnng
[22:37] <zChris> Kohlrak: so you have glx added ?
[22:37] <Pici> SlimThug875: None whatsoever.
[22:37] <SlimThug875> ok
[22:37] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: I have amule installed but it was not runnng
[22:38] <hubuntu> you could use Hackintosh on the Dell, but it's not legal. Keep yourself ti Ubuntu and if you need mac software well try to find a substitute, the other option is obvious
[22:38] <Kohlrak> yea
[22:38] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: yes. no wireless
[22:38] <Sensae> Amun: Totally. I've been trying to use (K)ubuntu since version 6, but haven't been able to get either sound or 3D rendering to work.
[22:38] <KR-data> Cream, the sound system gnomes uses/used by default (haven''t heard of any change, but since I haven't used gnome for a while....)
[22:38] <zChris> Kohlrak: well try to add Load "dri" then
[22:38] <Amun> hubuntu: macintosh is legal, just not legal to distribute.
[22:38] <Kohlrak> so i don't remove the glx?
[22:38] <Sensae> The only thing not working out of the box is my dual monitors - it's in cloned mode. But that's not as big of a deal as sound.
[22:38] <zChris> Kohlrak: try with first
[22:38] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: s there any way to monitor trafic?
[22:38] <Kohlrak> alright
[22:38] <Sensae> and with multiple desktops, I'm tempted to just unplug my second monitor, maybe even run synergy on it
[22:38] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: or requests...?
[22:38] <KR-data> Cream, I usually disable those and run on a clean alsa, I've having more trouble than use from the others
[22:38] <GhostFish> kohlrak: Where did you get the driver ???
[22:38] <Amun> hubuntu: sorry, hacintosh is legal, just illegal to distribute.
[22:39] <Kohlrak> GhostFish, Synaptic
[22:39] <dmsuperman_> i'm not sure about for ubuntu, I just monitor it in my router (I run pfSense on an old gateway as a router) so i've never needed to
[22:39] <dmsuperman_> lpanebr, I was just thinking if you had wireless people were stealing your connection
[22:39] <Kohlrak> I'll be right back, gonna try to reboot with this and hope it loads if it doesn't want to work. XD
[22:39] <GhostFish> kohlrak: Name ?
[22:39] <hubuntu> is it legal to install in a Dell? NO. No matter how you got it... am I wrong?
[22:39] <Kohlrak> synaptic the name you gave me
[22:39] <Kohlrak> ill be back shortly
[22:40] <Kohlrak> i hope...
[22:40] <GhostFish> name of driver
[22:40] <Sensae> Anyone have dual monitors working for them?
[22:40] <dmsuperman_> hubuntu, install ubuntu on a dell? there's nothing wrong with that...
[22:40] <Fishscene> Technically, mac os should only be run on Mac hardware
[22:40] <Sensae> ATI
[22:40] <KR-data> Cream, but the best way to explain it is a kind of layer between alsa and the programs using sound, used for better features
[22:40] <Fishscene> If it's not on Mac hardware, it's a EULA violation
[22:40] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: yes, i thought you suspected that. but I really do not have wireless.  I am very experienced with computers but new to linux
[22:40] <apgob> k3b is the WPS i ever seen
[22:40] <dmsuperman_> hubuntu, i can't think of a single instance where it would be illegal to install ubuntu on any computer, unless you specifically sign a contract stating you can't
[22:40] <Pici> !offtopic
[22:40] <Pici> !illegal
[22:40] <KR-data> Cream, the problem is that it requires the programs to support it, and skype only works with alsa and oss
[22:40] <Cream> KR-data sorry i dont understand anything :P
[22:40] <Sensae> Does anyone have dual monitor support working on an ATI card? Or at all?
[22:40] <ramb0> whats up with Hardy-Firefox-Flash sound? (installed 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' from multiverse)
[22:41] <dmsuperman_> lpanebr, similar situation. I'm absolutely sure there's tools to monitor it out there, just none that I know of. Try a google for "ubuntu monitor web traffic"
[22:41] <glavanway> Can some one please type my nick 'glavanway' so I can see if my hilight is working???
[22:41] <hubuntu> Amun? I'm talking about hackintosh dmsuperman_...
[22:41] <Sensae> glavanway
[22:41] <Starnestommy> glavanway: does this work?
[22:41] <Amun> hubuntu: hacintosh's are LEGAL, you just can't distribute the software. apple won't support it. check out psylon or whatever company is selling hacintoshs.
[22:41] <glavanway> Thanks'
[22:41] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: do u know of any software that may help me monitor what is being downloaded/uploaded?
[22:41] <hubuntu> ok ubottu we leave it there
[22:41] <Pici> Amun: hubuntu: Please take this discussion elsewhere
[22:41] <glavanway> Yeah it does
[22:41] <Sensae> Amun: www.psystar.com
[22:41] <Lapinux> can anyone help me figure out what i should have the "dump" and "pass" options set to in fstab for my raid array?  i was told to use 0 and 3, it takes forever to boot and im not sure if i need them set to these values
[22:41] <dmsuperman_> hubuntu, sorry, caught the tail end of your conversation then :P
[22:41] <eduardo> Question: how do i install a compiz theme?
[22:41] <lpanebr> dmsuperman_: ok, thanks anyway!
[22:42] <dmsuperman_> hubuntu, it's definitely against Apple's TOS but not illegal
[22:42] <Sensae> Erm? Going to about:config says it might void my warranty? lawl
[22:42] <hubuntu> Ok.. let's move to next issue :)
[22:42] <gordonjcp> guys, this hackintosh stuff is probably more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <Pici> dmsuperman_: Please cease with the conversation, its not on topic and questionably legal things are not for this channel
[22:43] <gordonjcp> Pici: there's nothing questionably legal about it, it's entirely legal
[22:43] <gordonjcp> you're just stuffed if you *ever* want to return any Apple stuff under warranty
[22:43] <enriquei> I don't know why anyone would want anything remotely like a mac. :P
[22:43] <Sensae> If it's illegal I'm surprised Psystar hasn't been hosed down by Apple yet
[22:43] <rohan> Pici: who says "questionably legal things are not for this channel"
[22:43] <markl__> is VMWare server in the 8.04 repositories ?
[22:44] <KR-data> Cream, well think of a book without a cover, then a cover is a layer making it pretty and easy to recognize, the cover is improving the functionality. Esd does something like that for alsa, it improves the functionality (I actually don't know how, but that's the general idea)
[22:44] <rohan> markl__: it should be available in the partner repo
[22:44] <sectech> heh... the install worked great for gusty... and the livcd works fine without the hard drive for hardy
[22:44] <Pici> rohan: The Ubuntu IRC guidelines, /msg ubottu illegal
[22:44] <markl__> i remember with 7.10 it took awhile for them to show up
[22:44] <Sensae> Anyone? Dual monitors? Ati?
[22:44] <jrib> folks, this channel is for ubuntu support.  The offtopic discussion makes it harder for people to get help.  Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[22:44] <Cream> KR-data ok so what should i do with ESD? :p
[22:44] <Pici> jrib: Thank you, I was just going to say that.
[22:44] <Hacksmith> I had ATI and dual monitors
[22:44] <Hacksmith> Had all kinds of headaches
[22:44] <sectech> I am talking about ubuntu :P
[22:45] <gordonjcp> KR-data: esd is a kind of server that allows multiple apps to pass sound data off for mixing and playback
[22:45] <ChrisC35> hi
[22:45] <Sensae> Hacksmith: When switching virtual desktops, does it do it on both at once?
[22:45] <ramb0> hardy-FireFox-Flash sound issue ... is it known? ... sound not working
[22:45] <eduardo> Question: how do i install a compiz theme?
[22:45] <LoRe> is there a presentation tool which can handle to screens? one screen for the presentation and the other for navigating through the presentation, preview slides while talking etc, similar to keynote, but for linux :)
[22:45] <Chapai> has anybody got veohtv to work with ubuntu
[22:45] <rohan> Pici: so it is more about pirated stuff like music, video, etc. what is the harm in discussing whether it's legal to install on apple system or not?
[22:45] <KR-data> gordonjcp, then it's just like dmix, except it's supported by less programs?
[22:45] <Hacksmith> NO, both monitors were separate workspaces.  Changing virtuals only affected one desktop
[22:45] <LoRe> and i want to control the presentation screen from the preview screen
[22:45] <gordonjcp> KR-data: it's also very very old now
[22:45] <Kohlrak> zChris, it's not working. i'm gonna try messing with it while waiting, but i gotta go to a sort of meeting right now. Will you still be here in 2 hours?
[22:45] <gordonjcp> rohan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:45] <Sensae> Hacksmith: Hrm.. So you had a separate task bar on each screen too?
[22:46] <ChrisC35> I have a question about hwo Ubuntu works compared to Vista. I just got a new laptop with Vista - created a non admin user for my wife, but it prompts for admin password so much, its basically unusable (it wont even allow her to delete a desktop shortcut). How does Ubuntu do this kind of thing?
[22:46] <gordonjcp> rohan: or better yet, stop harping on about it ;-)
[22:46] <Hacksmith> Sensae: Sorry no it didn't.  both monitors were sepeate workspaces, idependant.
[22:46] <Sensae> I'm looking for funcionality similar to Ultramon on Windows. But if I can't get that I'll just unplug my other monitor
[22:46] <KR-data> gordonjcp, ok? But isn't it still the default gnome sound server (haven't used gnome for a while)
[22:46] <Hacksmith> Sensae: Yes
[22:46] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: if you do something that requires admin access, it will pop up a little password box
[22:46] <eduardo> ChrisC35: ubuntu works better than vista, it will make your computer run faster but you gotta know how to use it
[22:46] <Sensae> Hacksmith: Wait, so are there two task bars or one?
[22:46] <zChris> Kohlrak: not likely but if your lucky :P
[22:46] <hischild_> ChrisC35: only for things that affect the pc systemwide, you need a password. It's a change.
[22:46] <epimeteo> Hi. Is there a problem with the Ubuntu repositories?
[22:46] <ChrisC35> gordonjcp thats the same thing Vista is doing
[22:47] <preki> hi folks, I can no longer boot to the latest 8.04 kernel.  What should i do?  is there a way to refresh the filesystem?
[22:47] <ChrisC35> but a LOT
[22:47] <mad_max02> whats happening to the servers ? I tried to install something with synaptics and it takes ages just to start to dl few kbs.
[22:47] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, just give it a shot inserting the Ubuntu 8.04 LTSCD on your drive, install it and try it
[22:47] <eduardo> Question: how do i install a compiz theme?
[22:47] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: well typically this would be for something like the package manager
[22:47] <dholbert_> epimeteo: I was getting slow responses from them yesterday
[22:47] <Sensae> Synaptic is being sloooow
[22:47] <rohan> gordonjcp: no, i still want to know what's wrong with that question.
[22:47] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: or something else that has an effect on the *entire thing*
[22:47] <KR-data> Cream, I think you are best of with asking in the irc-channel for alsa (#alsa) than asking me, they know a lot more about the topic than me
[22:47] <ChrisC35> so it is not as painful as Vista then in that regard?
[22:47] <gordonjcp> rohan: well, don't ask it in here
[22:47] <Hacksmith> Sensae: Intially it was cloned.  Then I ran the Envy app and i had two separate workspaces.  Different task bars and I could not drag an app from one desktop to another.
[22:47] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: I've never tried Vista but I've only ever heard bad things about it
[22:47] <rohan> gordonjcp: the question, or the justification?
[22:48] <jrib> rohan: it's not about *ubuntu support*
[22:48] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, all of this while running Vista. The Ubuntu system allows a non-admin desktop user to use the computer extensively without nagging for passwords for such things
[22:48] <rohan> jrib: it most definitely is
[22:48] <Crashed> Vista :(
[22:48] <holyguyver> When I try to use Synaptic I get this message Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[22:48] <Kouza1> Looking for help getting my wireless card working please pm if you are available to help =-)
[22:48] <Sensae> Hacksmith: Oh well without dragging it's not as much worth it. Especially if it sounds like a PITA
[22:48] <rohan> jrib: if i ask, "can i install ubuntu on machine foo", it classifies as support
[22:48] <gordonjcp> !ask | Kouza1
[22:48] <Cream> KR-data i got no answer there, but thankyou veeeeeery much for your time and support! much appriciated, im going to bed and ill look into it tomorrow again :) thankyou again :)
[22:48] <Sensae> Hacksmith: Thanks
[22:48] <plummet> can anyone explain to me how to manually install programs i downloaded? specifically folding@home
[22:48] <Pici> rohan: The question was "can I install hackintosh on my dell". thats not Ubuntu support.
[22:49] <ChrisC35> one thing I notice about linux, its harder to install and update software. You cant just go to a web page, click the download link, and install run the update
[22:49] <rohan> i'm not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill - it's just that such pedantic behaviour is what turns off new users, gordonjcp, jrib , and Pici
[22:49] <hischild_> gordonjcp: i have a dualboot with vista. I use vista for my heavy 3d apps that won't run under linux. For the rest, i use ubuntu. It works fine so far.
[22:49] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: you can actually just run ubuntu from the CD
[22:49] <KR-data> gordonjcp, I'm told that Vista isn't as bad as it's rumors (if it was Vista would be the end of the world though)
[22:49] <ChrisC35> you have to put a command line in right?
[22:49] <Hacksmith> Sensae: Yeah and I could not get the computer to come back from locked screen at all.  Had to Ctrl+Alt+Bckspce
[22:49] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: into what?
[22:49] <xc_dht> !videosz
[22:49] <Hacksmith> Sensae: It was very buggy.
[22:49] <hischild_> KR-data: it started as the beginning of the end. IT's a lot better now though.
[22:49] <Pici> rohan: It had nothing to do with ubuntu and was offtopic.
[22:49] <KR-data> Cream, no problem, I hope it'll be fixed :)
[22:49] <ChrisC35> you have to type a command
[22:49] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, in that regard it could be said that is easier to have a non-admin using the system. BUt the access to the NTFS system will leave you vulnerable from file reading etc, unless your user data is encrypted under Vista ;)
[22:49] <Kouza1> I have a Atheros, for my Toshiba Satellite, and ubuntu acts like i dont have one at all can any one help me with this issue?
[22:49] <rohan> Pici, jrib, gordonjcp : i am so sorry, i thought you all were against his question about ubuntu! sorry once again!
[22:49] <jrib> rohan: meh, what's your question exactly?  Thought you were with the hackintosh crowd
[22:49] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: type a command for what?
[22:49] <preki> ﻿I can no longer boot to the latest 8.04 kernel.  What should i do?  is there a way to refresh the filesystem?
[22:49] <Pici> rohan: Its okay :)
[22:49] <Sensae> hischild_: Not sure of the context, but that's my setup right now. I have Vista x64 for heavy stuff and my 3D work, and just got Ubuntu installed.
[22:49] <rohan> jrib: no, i did not follow the flow properly
[22:50] <gordonjcp> rohan: oh, no I missed the Ubuntu question - what was it?
[22:50] <ChrisC35> for installing and updating programs
[22:50] <Kouza1> I have a Atheros, for my Toshiba Satellite, and ubuntu acts like i dont have one at all can any one help me with this issue?
[22:50] <erUSUL> preki: what error are you getting?
[22:50] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: no, you'd use Synaptic for it
[22:50] <rohan> gordonjcp: is it legal to install ubuntu on dell, he'd asked somewhere up there
[22:50] <KR-data> hischild_, well when I got a faster computer I might try it, just to know a little about what people ask me about
[22:50] <jrib> eduardo: try #compiz-fusion
[22:50] <ChrisC35> what is Synaptic?
[22:50] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: you *can* use a command-line program to do it, which is what I generally do
[22:51] <Kouza1> I have a Atheros, for my Toshiba Satellite, and ubuntu acts like i dont have one at all can any one help me with this issue?
[22:51] <gordonjcp> rohan: can't see why it would be illegal, unless it's not your computer
[22:51] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, is entirely GUI based and the command line could be thought of as  an add on for more advanced users. For admin tasks you have to type your password too, but it's far from often and it envolves just very specific tasks
[22:51] <hischild_> KR-data: 800 Mhz apparently is good enough to run it (that's battery saving mode on my laptop) and still runs fine then.
[22:51] <preki> erUSUL, sometimes a blank screen on boot up, sometimes a pile of messages I can't decipher
[22:51] <ChrisC35> I tried updating Firefox on my Ubuntu machine. I went to the site, downloaded the upgrade, and that was it. it just unpacked it. It did not get installed
[22:51] <rohan> gordonjcp: right
[22:51] <gordonjcp> Kouza1: didn't you just ask that about 10 seconds ago
[22:51] <gordonjcp> ?
[22:51] <preki> is there a way to retrieve the error message?
[22:51] <Mudassar> How can I install from *.repo file ?
[22:51] <erUSUL> preki: can you boot into recovery mode?
[22:51] <Kouza1> Gordon: Diddent i not get a answer 8-P
[22:51] <KR-data> hischild_, sounds strange compared to what I've heard
[22:51] <jrib> Mudassar: what are you trying to install?
[22:51] <preki> erUSUL: yes, to a command line
[22:52] <hischild_> KR-data: i have much stranger stories ;-)
[22:52] <jrib> ChrisC35: let the update-manager in ubuntu take care of updates
[22:52] <SlimThug875>  anyone in here know how to break into networks?? i have a network ip if that is any help..its a school network???
[22:52] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, in Ubuntu every single app downloads, installs and upgrades cventrally.. You will never have to go to the site and grab it. Just add a centralized source (called repository) and go with it
[22:52] <Crashed> What's the apache config file called?
[22:52] <SlimThug875>  anyone in here know how to break into networks?? i have a network ip if that is any help..its a school network???
[22:52] <plummet> ChrisC35: we are trying to do the same thing, i dont know what to do with the files after unpacking from the tarball
[22:52] <gordonjcp> Kouza1: you might have to wait - in case you hadn't noticed it's a bit busy in here ;-)
[22:52] <jrib> Crashed: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[22:52] <XLV> upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 32bit... update manager doesnt work, it gets stuck at wait-cursor state, when check for updates button is pressed.. also many things in system>administration menu dont start, eg hardware drivers, hardware testing etc
[22:52] <GhostFish> ATI CARD ERROR : Desktop effects could not be enabled ?????//
[22:52] <gordonjcp> Kouza1: what kind of atheros card?
[22:52] <hischild_> KR-data: how about the story that vista and xp in a virtual pc run more then 3 times as fast as a normal installation, even though it only uses one core with 256 ram (yes on vista as well)
[22:52] <SlimThug875>  anyone in here know how to break into networks?? i have a network ip if that is any help..its a school network???
[22:52] <Mimi> Question :  Everytime I drag something to another window... Nautilus goes gray... and gray... and eventually I get a error message about dbus... any help O.o
[22:52] <SlimThug875> message me if anyonfo?
[22:52] <KR-data> hischild_, and seen btw. I've seen computers much more powerful than my driven to the edge of breakdown by Vista (though the person behind it was trying to get it there, so it was his own fault)
[22:52] <jrib> SlimThug875: that's not discussed here
[22:52] <ChrisC35> hubuntu how does that work then? if you dont go to the vendor website, where do  you go?
[22:53] <SlimThug875> where can i get answers??
[22:53] <jrib> SlimThug875: not here.
[22:53] <SlimThug875> do you kn ow where?
[22:53] <Crashed> Thanks jrib
[22:53] <KR-data> hischild_, sounds like I'm gonna install Viista on my vmware soon
[22:53] <erUSUL> preki: maybe you can take a look at /var/log/syslog (from the end backwards) or try to "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" and get any information about what may be wrong?
[22:53] <eduardo> Question: how do i install a compiz theme? (compiz-fusion is not active)
[22:53] <KR-data> hischild_, I gotta try that myself
[22:53] <S3M> si ora va grazie
[22:53] <jrib> eduardo: did you try #compiz-fusion?
[22:53] <S3M> notte
[22:54] <eduardo> jrib: yes, its inactive
[22:54] <keanu> I have a Brother HL-1440 printer connected to a Windows XP computer.  When trying to print from my laptop (running Ubuntu 8.04) the printer warms up, but doesn't print.  The only way I can get it to print the document is to print another document from the XP machine.  Any ideas why?
[22:54] <hischild_> KR-data: i didn't believe it myself at first .... that's why i was pretty surprised myself ...
[22:54] <ChrisC35> what does it mean to 'add a centralized source' aka repository?
[22:54] <hubuntu> you use synaptic as metioned earlier ChrisC35
[22:54] <KR-data> hischild_, was it vmware or another virtual machine?
[22:54] <hubuntu> Let me give you an example
[22:54] <plummet> hubuntu: how exactly do you use synaptic
[22:54] <mudd`Hossam> i am having difficulty install libssl-dev on 8.04 amd64, i get this error   libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-4ubuntu2) but 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3 is to be installed
[22:54] <hischild_> KR-data: kvm and vmware. both yield the same results.
[22:55] <hubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[22:55] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: hubuntu beat me to it ;-)
[22:55] <ChrisC35> What distro of linux would be easiest to use for non techies (like the wife) - and would they be supported on a new laptop?
[22:55] <KR-data> hischild_, interesting, I gotta try it, it sounds like too much fun not to do it
[22:55] <hischild_> ChrisC35: IMO ubuntu.
[22:55] <rohan> mudd`Hossam: i think it's a bug, you should file it
[22:55] <rambo3> ChrisC35, kubuntu
[22:55] <plummet> regular ubuntu is easiest ive seen
[22:55] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: any of them
[22:55] <rohan> ChrisC35: ubuntu
[22:55] <ChrisC35> and should I just blow away Vista on it and put Ubuntu?
[22:55] <Invert314> X.org on the Ubuntu Live CD is taking up 40% CPU usage while idle on a 1.7Ghz celeron (from 2002).  this is after i turned off compiz.  why is that?
[22:55] <t0dz> hello.. i was seting up a theame.. on my ubuntu and i want to make those proc info counters like u can see in the right hand... http://www.xfce-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[22:55] <preki> ﻿erUSUL: I'm currently logged running on the older kernel.  can I access /var/log/syslog from here - i.e. is the log common to both kernels -  or do i have to reboot into the new kernel?
[22:55] <ChrisC35> or should I go with MacOS?
[22:55] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: of course, that depends on what you want to do
[22:55] <rambo3> ChrisC35, kubuntu with kd4
[22:55] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: run 'sudo apt-get update'.  If you still receive the error, pastebin your sources.list
[22:55] <rohan> ChrisC35: no ,keep vista just in case
[22:55] <Pici> ChrisC35: If you're expecting an answer other than Ubuntu, I suggest asking in ##linux, not #ubuntu
[22:55] <hubuntu> plummet, you search for an apps and install it. For instance you can search for "browser" or for "galeon" and you will find a web browser called galeon in both cases
[22:55] <rohan> ChrisC35: mac os? it's useless P
[22:56] <hischild_> KR-data: true that. I have a whole bunch of images on an external HD with all kinds of tweaked and clean systems. Fun to test stuff on ;-)
[22:56] <mudd`Hossam> rohan, alrighty i am having some other packages giving the same errors
[22:56] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, will do
[22:56] <erUSUL> preki: so the older kernel is still instaled and works fine?
[22:56] <KR-data> hischild_, indeed :D
[22:56] <rohan> mudd`Hossam: yes, but before filing, do what jrib said :)
[22:56] <ChrisC35> Pici are  you saying everyone in here are biased idiots?
[22:56] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: put it this way, my woefully non-technical Mum was perfectly able to use Slackware on my old PC
[22:56] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, put the Ubuntu CD while in Vista and follow the instructions. It is really as painless as that
[22:56] <Pici> ChrisC35: Those arent the words I would use, but yes.
[22:56] <preki> erUSUL, yes, seems to
[22:56] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: if you're just poking about on the web and reading email, there's basically no difference between *any* distro once it's installed
[22:57] <Sensae> How do I zoom out with compiz running?
[22:57] <erUSUL> preki: have you installed your video drivers through envy or manually?
[22:57] <wolfy> Can anyone here help me with a small driver issue?
[22:57] <rohan> gordonjcp++
[22:57] <jrib> Sensae: ask in #compiz-fusion
[22:57] <ChrisC35> she would also need to use photoshop though
[22:57] <KR-data> hischild_, though I miss my gentoo, I just don't have the time for that anymore ;(
[22:57] <preki> through envy
[22:57] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, Ubuntu has arised as the GNU/Linux standard. It is just simple as that
[22:57] <rohan> !ask | wolfy
[22:57] <plummet> so it is not possible to install something without using repositories?
[22:57] <Woob1> Hello all.. I'm a brand new ubuntu/linux user and have just installed ubuntu then added mythbuntu.  When I load up the mythtv frontend, I get a message that the UPnP backends are not found and then after scrolling through a couple of pages I get a message that I cannot login to database.I appreciate a little help if anyone might have a clue?
[22:57] <hischild_> KR-data: i've heard great stories about it. I've taken a look at it, but it seems like you need at least a fulltime week for it to setup.
[22:57] <caleb_> I am trying to make wget download the zip file from the US mirror at http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Eternal-Lands-Download-611.html here is what I have so far:
[22:57] <caleb_> wget -H -l1 -np -nd -A.zip -erobots=off --exclude-domains=download.softpedia.ro http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Eternal-Lands-Download-611.html but it doesn't work
[22:57] <t0dz> hello.. i was seting up a theame.. on my ubuntu and i want to make those proc info counters like u can see in the right hand... in that page... can sombody help me ??http://www.xfce-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[22:57] <wolfy> Very well. I'd need help locating a driver for my wifi
[22:57] <keanu> If I have the Printers and Faxes open on windows, I see it show 0 documents waiting, then 1 (when I print), then go back to 0 a few minutes later, so the computer's recognizing that it should print, it just delays it
[22:57] <jrib> plummet: it is, but it's not recommended.  Using the repositories is easier anyway
[22:58] <wolfy> Realtek 802.11 g/b wireless
[22:58] <KR-data> hischild_, depends on the computer, but taken first time errors in account, then it sounds pretty realistic
[22:58] <hubuntu> plummet, it is, it's just not as easy to keep it up to date. There are over 20000 applications available in the repositories... You almost lways find what you are looking for
[22:58] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: like I said earlier, you can run it from the CD while you try it out
[22:58] <hubuntu> google, as usual, is your best friend there ;)
[22:58] <Mathman> gordonjcp: up to a point.  stability could be an issue with various distros.  fedora springs to mind.
[22:58] <ChrisC35> I thought openSUSE is supposed to be growing in popularity a lot faster?
[22:58] <KR-data> hischild_, I think a stage 3 install with a gui and all that would take me around 48 hours to get up and running
[22:58] <hischild_> KR-data: well, i got a CLI system installed properly. But then ran into some other errors. So i got back to ubuntu and i'm happy again.
[22:58] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: it'll be a lot slower but the user experience will be more-or-less the same
[22:59] <ChrisC35> is it plausable to run Photoshop in Wine? and IE as well?
[22:59] <keanu> Going into notepad and pressing enter a few times and printing the 'document' causes both pages to print, but something must be printed from the XP machine for it to print the document from my laptop.  Any ideas?
[22:59] <preki> erSULU: is it a problem to use envy to install the video drivers?
[22:59] <ChrisC35> or however that is supposed to be done
[22:59] <cpk1>  /msg ubottu repomirror
[22:59] <ChrisC35> or in windows on vmware maybe
[22:59] <cpk1> oops
[22:59] <KR-data> hischild_, it's a great system for some things, but if you like things nice and easy, keep away :p
[22:59] <t0dz> hello.. i was seting up a theame.. on my ubuntu and i want to make those proc info counters like u can see in the right hand... in that page... can sombody help me ?? http://www.xfce-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=73210&file1=73210-1.jpg&file2=73210-2.jpg&file3=73210-3.jpg&name=Slickness+Black
[22:59] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, depends who you ask. If you need help with Ubuntu, here we are. If you want to know more about distros go to distrowatch.com or other channels
[22:59] <KR-data> hischild_, since I like to play, get errors and try to fix then I love gentoo
[22:59] <caleb_> ChrisC35: you can only run cs2 in wine, not cs3. You can run ie, by downloading it here: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[22:59] <Mathman> ChrisC35: never tried it, but photoshop is one of the big things wine devs concentrate on, so yeah, I'd imagine it runs.  or at least some version of it.  IE?  why I'd ask.
[23:00] <hubuntu> search the wine database for that ChrisC35: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[23:00] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1011134 - having issues with package dependencies
[23:00] <KR-data> hischild_, the errors of course can be avoided easily, but for me they are part of the fun ;)
[23:00] <Fishscene> Would running IE in WINE subject you to the same vulnerabilities as in Windows?
[23:00] <ChrisC35> what about running windowsXP in vmware, with CS3, etc - would all that work well enough using 2GB ram?
[23:00] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: you might want to look into ies4linux if you *must* have IE in Wine
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Fishscene: not really, no
[23:00] <hubuntu> Ubuntu is no cheap windows. So you can't expect everything to just work. Somethings do, and some donæt
[23:00] <hischild_> KR-data: i love errors. I love to fix them as well. But i also need it for school, which is when i can't use errors or anything else. It just needs to work. Windows isn't stable enough for me, so i use ubuntu which is just perfect :_)
[23:00] <Fishscene> gordonjcp, ok thanks :)
[23:00] <KR-data> Chipsa964, it should
[23:00] <ramb0> hardy-FireFox-Flash sound issue ... this is for flashplayer9 on FF3.0b5 -- installing libflashsupport fixes it ... I'll look into fixing it upstream
[23:00] <hischild_> !appdb | ChrisC35
[23:01] <Mathman> Fishscene: nah.  I mean, I suppose your wine setup could get screwed.  even your home directory if you got something nasty and your wine setup was such that it had access.  but nah, your linux install would be fine
[23:01] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: what kind of things do you intend on using it for?
[23:01] <ChrisC35> so wine rungs things natively?
[23:01] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: mmmm, kind of
[23:01] <ChrisC35> web development
[23:01] <gordonjcp> ah righty
[23:01] <ChrisC35> therefore I NEED PS and to test in IE
[23:01] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, running XP under VirtualBox or VMWare for Linux should do the trick, yes
[23:01] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: pastebin your error (output of 'sudo apt-get install libssl-dev' I guess) and the output of 'apt-cache policy libssl-dev libssl0.9.8'
[23:01]  * gordonjcp doesn't bother testing in IE any more
[23:01] <keanu> Based on what I've done, it seems that down at the bottom of the page printed from Ubuntu, it shows @PJL JOB NAME="Test Page" [break] PJL PRINTLOG ITEM = 1, PRINTER [break] @PJL PRINTLOG ITEM = 2,Wed,7 May 2008 17:47:38
[23:02] <KR-data> hischild_, well I need mine for school too, so it seems we think pretty much the same
[23:02] <ChrisC35> and as for games.... ? i will assume that Wine or VMware will not cut it
[23:02] <caleb_> I am trying to make wget download the zip file from the US mirror at http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Eternal-Lands-Download-611.html here is what I have so far:
[23:02] <caleb_> wget -H -l1 -np -nd -A.zip -erobots=off --exclude-domains=download.softpedia.ro http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Eternal-Lands-Download-611.html but it doesn't work
[23:02] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: for the most part IE7 does the Right Thing, and no-one should even be using IE6 any more
[23:02] <wolfy> ANyone have any sudgestions where i can get a driver for a Realtek 802.11 g/b wireless? I need it for ndsiwrapper
[23:02] <keanu> "Test Page" also switches to "Untitled - Notepad" depending on what I used as the second document.  Is this a problem caused by the Ubuntu driver, or the XP machine?
[23:02] <hischild_> KR-data: but i need some sleep. GF is coming by tomorrow :-) Good luck on it. We'll see each other again sometime around here I hope.
[23:02] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: games, er yes well...  I hope you like FPSes
[23:02] <Mathman> ChrisC35: wine definitely cuts it for games.  least on my end.
[23:02] <ChrisC35> gordonjcp IE6 is still in wide use. And no you can't assume IE7 follows standards properly. You still need zoom:1 for eg
[23:02] <Mathman> gordonjcp: nonsense.  I mean, a whole slew of poker apps run under wine
[23:03] <KR-data> hischild_, I hope too, though I'm not in here that often. Sleep well
[23:03] <ChrisC35> FPSes?
[23:03] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: tbh I don't really care about IE
[23:03] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, agaion the winedB is the best resource and Cedega is the best commercial app if you really can't dual boot
[23:03] <preki> ﻿erUSUL: is it a problem to use envy to install the video drivers?  would it help to see a screenshot of the error message?
[23:03] <fastfret79> t0dz - looks like it might be screenlets
[23:03] <t0dz> :/ ?
[23:03] <t0dz> im new..
[23:03] <erUSUL> preki: the problem is that you have to reinstall the drivers everytime you change your kernel :-/
[23:03] <ChrisC35> ya i supposed i could duo boot for games, and use vmware for PS/IE
[23:04] <hubuntu> IE runs ok under Ubuntu, but I would encourage to use XP on a Virtual Machine (whatever kind) if you want to do the CS IE trick
[23:04] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: at work I care about it a *little* bit, but only about 15% of hits are from IE anyway
[23:04] <hubuntu> yep
[23:04] <ChrisC35> gordonjcp IE still has the vast majority of the market
[23:04] <ChrisC35> and stats are unreliabel
[23:04] <gordonjcp> ChrisC35: that's not been our experience, but then it's mostly public sector and the tech market we're in
[23:05] <ChrisC35> hehe thats kind of contradictory isnt it
[23:05] <jtickle> is there an easy way to get in touch with another user of the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community?
[23:05] <gordonjcp> jtickle: maybe they have a talk page
[23:05] <hrocha> good evening
[23:05] <wolfy> no one?
[23:05] <Gibby69> how can i change resolution for log in page
[23:05] <jtickle> doesn't look like it :-/
[23:05] <jtickle> would that be Talk:username ?
[23:05] <hrocha> did anyone read the ubuntu-girlfriend experience?
[23:05] <fastfret79> t0dz: try following this - http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/17/os-x-like-widgets-with-screenlets-on-ubuntu-3rd-update/
[23:05] <preki> erUSUL: it has been working fine for a couple of weeks in Hardy with the newer kernel.  Is the older kernel listed as 8.04 the same as the 7.10 kernel then?
[23:05] <ChrisC35> gordonjcp i'm talking about the full scale. My clients range so I have to support everything
[23:05] <gordonjcp> hrocha: yeah, seemed a bit contrived to me
[23:05] <m11> hello
[23:06] <jtickle> gordon, would that be Talk:username?
[23:06] <jtickle> er
[23:06] <gordonjcp> jtickle: possibly
[23:06] <ChrisC35> can you do any decent games through wine? Like Gothic 3
[23:06] <hrocha> gordonjcp: i've done an ubuntu-father experience in caso you want to read it
[23:06] <ChrisC35> or recent stuff
[23:06] <jtickle> cool
[23:06] <hrocha> gordonjcp: http://rochahenrique.blogspot.com
[23:06] <gordonjcp> hrocha: my Mum has been using Ubuntu for about two years now
[23:06] <preki> erUSUL: and how can I reinstall with envy if I can't get to the desktop?
[23:06] <hrocha> gordonjcp: it's a little long
[23:06] <m11> how can one mount .bin on ubuntu ?
[23:06] <erUSUL> preki: ? you cnaged the kernel since you used envy or not?
[23:07] <GhostFish> I have a ATI Catalyst CONtrol Center and it won't let me change the screen size .. Is there somewhere else I can change it ?
[23:07] <hubuntu> ChrisC35, this is not a wine support channel. If you have specific questions as such go to a wine channel or please see the site we have refered to you.
[23:07] <jrib> !iso > m11 (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:07] <hrocha> gordonjcp: my mom too, maybe not 2 years, but 1 at least
[23:07] <gordonjcp> hrocha: see this is the point exactly
[23:07] <jrib> m11: convert it to iso as ubottu's link explains, then mount that
[23:07] <preki> erUSUL: yes, but it worked fine for two weeks or so
[23:07] <gordonjcp> hrocha: my Mum doesn't know how to change the brake discs on her VW Golf, does that mean that VW Golfs aren't ready for non-techy drivers?
[23:08] <gordonjcp> of course it doesn't
[23:08] <erUSUL> preki: so the problem wasn't coused by the new kernel ...
[23:08] <caleb_> to all those listening, i fixed the problem with this: wget -rH -l1 -np -nd --accept=.zip -erobots=off --exclude-domains=download.softpedia.ro http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Eternal-Lands-Download-611.html
[23:08] <hrocha> gordonjcp: obviously :)
[23:08] <gordonjcp> it means that she brings it round to me to get the brakes done
[23:08] <RickX> does anyone have onboard SIS Mirage 1 graphics working?
[23:08] <m11> tnx jrib i try that
[23:08] <hrocha> gordonjcp: i completely disagree with his "not ready for the desktop"
[23:08] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1011141 sorry for the delay
[23:08] <preki> erUSUL: maybe not, no.. but I can't boot the new kernel and I can boot the old one.
[23:09] <gordonjcp> hrocha: I've been using computers for most of my 34 years and I still run into *exactly* the problems he described when I try to use Windows
[23:09] <gordonjcp> so does that mean that Windows isn't ready for the desktop?
[23:09] <harphazo> virtualbox?
[23:09] <sirjoebob> hey all... anyone know of a cli-based p2p program? kind of a weird request but I like the terminal interface
[23:09] <hrocha> gordonjcp: for example, when you install windows you can't read pdf files, which is really annoying
[23:09] <gordonjcp> hrocha: you want more RAM in that PIII, it would be fine with 512M
[23:09] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: If you ran 'sudo apt-get update' successfully, then your mirror must be flaky.  Here, I have libss-dev at version 0.9.8g-4ubuntu3
[23:10] <Mathman> 3rd party apps and drivers is why linux isn't ready for the desktop.  in the most general sense at any rate.  Linux has been my desktop for years of course, and quite a number of my co workers too.
[23:10] <hrocha> gordonjcp: he's not using the p3 now, i gave him my desktop, i only use a sony vaio laptop now
[23:10] <cheesebob> why does `sudo apt-get upgrade` take so long?
[23:10] <cheesebob> it seems to randomly get stuck on some steps
[23:10] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: so if you want to get this fixed immediately, you probbaly just need to use a different mirror
[23:10] <gordonjcp> hrocha: I mean my Mum doesn't *need* to know how to patch kernel drivers and stuff, in much the same way she doesn't need to know how to change brakes on a car
[23:10] <erUSUL> preki: maybe you can try try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose the free driver (nv for nvidia or ati for radeon) to get a uable desktop ? and retry with envy (if it is true that the problem is this)
[23:11] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, i remember having to add the universe repositories and whatnot for some applicatio where can i find the 8.04 distribution version of the sources.list?
[23:11] <gordonjcp> hrocha: the fact that she can turn it on and start browsing the web is good enough
[23:11] <jrib> !repomirror > mudd`Hossam (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:11] <Ysangko1> ﻿/msg ubottu repomirror
[23:11] <hrocha> gordonjcp: yes, my mom too, and i didn't change her desktop, she's using the default one, even with the same wallpaper
[23:11] <Jeruvy> can we move the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:11] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, thank you for all your help!
[23:12] <IDADan> Long time windows user installing Ubuntu for the first time
[23:12] <Pici> jrib: you may want to update your script to say ubottu (I just changed mine today)
[23:12] <preki> erUSUL: thanks for your help - i will try that.  For your info, here is a screenshot of the error message - does it me anything to you/others? http://www.maths.nottingham.ac.uk/personal/spp/DSCF0910.JPG
[23:12] <jrib> Pici: good point, thanks
[23:12] <hrocha> Jeruvy: don't worry, i was just leaving
[23:12] <DanaG> !find libsocket.so
[23:13] <DanaG> wtf?
[23:13] <Jeruvy> hrocha: it's cool but this channel is too busy
[23:13] <zChris> !find libsocket
[23:13] <erUSUL> preki: you should also file a bug report to the kernel what you have on the screen is an oops and is a serious kernel bug
[23:13] <hrocha> Jeruvy: np ;)
[23:13] <hrocha> gordonjcp: bye, take the time to read the article if you want to
[23:13] <preki> erUSUL: I will do, thanks again
[23:13] <erUSUL> preki: if the oops is not triggered when booting in recovery mode it may be coused by the video driver but i dunno
[23:14] <DanaG> zChris: I have that installed, and the library is there... but it's not in the ld path.
[23:14] <zChris> DanaG: okey
[23:14] <noelferreira> my keys get stuck sometimes and other times don't work. can anyone help me with this huge bug: http://pastebin.com/m7bc88052
[23:16] <DanaG> Odd.. even logging out and back in doesn't seem to fix it.
[23:16] <ldiamond> How can I get another boot option in grub with kernel 2.6.25?
[23:16] <m11> jrib i dl files and put them in /opt/bin2iso, after that i runed command "gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso-0.4.c" and console just drop me in new row. can u give me tip on how to work on this ?
[23:16] <Ysangko1> ldiamond: edit /boot/menu.lst ?
[23:17] <ldiamond> thats it?
[23:17] <jrib> m11: I've never used it.  You probably have a program called bin2iso you can use now though.  You would run it by doing: ./bin2iso
[23:17] <zaputr> Please? help, Mixxx writes "Audio device could not be opened", (Intel HDA)
[23:17] <ziomorti87> ciao a tutti
[23:17] <m11> ah ok, tnx for info
[23:17] <jrib> !it | ziomorti87
[23:17] <Ysangko1> ldiamond: well it oughtta work
[23:17] <ldiamond> where can I get 2.6.25 source?
[23:18] <jrib> !kernel > ldiamond (read the private message from ubottu)
[23:18] <Ysangko1> ldiamond: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.25.2.tar.bz2
[23:18] <DanaG> zChris: I just symlinked the files into /usr/lib.
[23:18] <DanaG> They were in /usr/lib/happycoders.
[23:18] <zaputr> Please? help, Mixxx writes "Audio device could not be opened", (Intel HDA)
[23:19] <DanaG> What the ¿?¿? is "happycoders"?
[23:19] <dholiday> I am a happycoder
[23:19] <dholiday> except I am not in your /urs/lib directory
[23:19] <DanaG> I'm NOT a happy coder when ld can't find -lsocket.
[23:20] <DanaG> ... especially when installing the package still didn't fix it.
[23:20] <dholiday> :(
[23:20] <Ysangko1> zaputr: does sound work in other programs?
[23:20] <zaputr> yes? in all programs
[23:20] <jrib> DanaG: you installed happycoders-libsocket-dev ?
[23:20] <zaputr> yes!
[23:21] <DanaG> Yup.
[23:21] <DanaG> But it didn't put the library in the ld path, apparently.
[23:21] <Creationist> Could someone please help me get my Microsoft (gasp!, it was cheap) Wireless Laser Desktop 4000 working?  Everything appears to work fine except for the middle mouse button... the wheel works fine, though.
[23:21] <Ysangko1> zaputr: there is a #mixxx channel
[23:21] <zChris> DanaG: that worked?
[23:22] <Trae> anyone here use imwheel and know how I get get Button4 and Button3 to switch?
[23:22] <GhostFish> brb
[23:22] <DanaG> zChris: It only started finding the library when I symlinked it into /usr/lib itself.
[23:23] <jtickle> has anyone experienced strange VIM behavior after upgrading to Hardy?
[23:23] <jtickle> in my case, it's like the letter 'd' was pressed before I do anything
[23:23] <Ysangko1> zaputr: check the FAQ, theres something about /dev/dsp problems: http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/faq
[23:24] <jtickle> so, if I edit a file with VIM, and then press the down arrow, it appears exactly the same as if, on another machine, I had opened VIM and pressed 'd' then [down]
[23:24] <jtickle> but if I open vim and immediately hit [esc] everything is fine
[23:24] <sls_> how can I tell how many sockets are populated with sticks of ram in linux?
[23:24] <sls_> on a server where i do not have physical access.
[23:24] <Mudassar> hello, how can I install pidgin from *.repo file ?
[23:24] <Mathman> sls_: try dmidecode
[23:25] <jrib> jtickle: are you sure you are using vim-full, not vim-tiny?
[23:25] <sls_> okk
[23:25] <jtickle> jrib, yeah
[23:25] <spiniker> hello room
[23:25] <Mathman> Mudassar: apt, aptitude, synaptic.  one of those I think
[23:25] <belor1> Folder Icons wont Change Please HELP
[23:25] <spiniker> is there a room for technical questions
[23:25] <Mathman> Mudassar: synaptic is the gui thingy I believe.  you'd maybe like that one.
[23:25] <Mudassar> plz give me the command how to do that
[23:25] <jtickle> jrib, this is definitely different behavior than if I had vim-tiny; once that initial [esc] happens, everything else works as it always has
[23:25] <ibleed> i am using gnome and i'm not sure what i installed that had this dependancy but now i have knetattach and i'm unsure of what it does
[23:26] <Mathman> Mudassar: look on your menu for synaptic and run it.  or type that command at a terminal
[23:26] <Mudassar> I couldn't figure out..
[23:26] <nano_> how can i stop ubuntu from creating default folders such as "Music" and "Videos" in ~/
[23:26] <Mathman> Mudassar: figure out....what?
[23:27] <Mudassar> how to add that *.repo file in synaptic package manager
[23:27] <jrib> Mudassar: what are you trying to install...?
[23:28] <jrib> nano_: check out /etc/xdg/ probably
[23:28] <Mudassar> pidgin messenger
[23:28] <Kuroachia> Quick question, has anyone else had any issues with their audio upon updating to 8.04? Suddenly my max volume is abnormally quiet.
[23:28] <Mathman> Mudassar: ha, spose I misunderstood the question.  why would you need a .repo file to install pidgin?  just install the pidgin that comes with ubuntu
[23:28] <nano_> jrib: thnx
[23:28] <jrib> Mudassar: pidgin is installed by default.  It's in your Internet menu
[23:28] <jrib> !software > Mudassar (read the private message from ubottu)
[23:28] <Mudassar> I saw a popup when I opened pidgin that I must install the latest version of pidgin to avoid many bugs ..
[23:29] <jrib> Mudassar: what version of ubuntu is this?
[23:29] <Mudassar> 7.10
[23:29] <Creationist> Could someone please help me get my Microsoft (gasp!, it was cheap) Wireless Laser Desktop 4000 working?  Everything appears to work fine except for the middle mouse button... the wheel works fine, though.  Also, if you have info on how to configure the extra keys, I would accept that :)
[23:29] <Mathman> Creationist: ha.  not with that nick.   heh, nah, no idea, sorry.
[23:29] <jrib> Mudassar: as long as you have the -security and -updates repo you are fine
[23:30] <Creationist> Mathman: My nick is that threatening to you, huh?  Fascinating.  Thanks for the commentary.
[23:30] <TooFly> hello! i had ubuntu installed, and i just installed windows as well. now, i dont get a boot menu at all - how do i get back to ubuntu?
[23:30] <jrib> !grub > toofly (read the private message from ubottu)
[23:30] <mudd`Hossam> does anyone know how i can restore my sources.list to its default values?
[23:30] <Mathman> Creationist: ha, who every said threatening?
[23:30] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: use system -> administration -> software sources
[23:30] <cheesebob> The Update Manager is frozen :(
[23:30] <cheesebob> help?
[23:30] <Mudassar> http://pidgin.im/download/fedora_core/             this is the link where I downloaded the repo file from
[23:31] <tj83> Hello all.... Have any of you experienced extreme instability in Ubuntu 8.04?
[23:31]  * Creationist is amazed people would refuse him support based entirely on his differing views on anything.   But at last... I'll concede.
[23:31] <Starnestommy> Mudassar: fedora and ubuntu are very different
[23:31] <Pici> Mudassar: Are you using Ubuntu or Fedora?
[23:31] <McRib> Mathman: You don't have anything against cows, do you?
[23:31] <Hirato> I decided to venture to the intrepid repos yesterday, I just thought I'd point out that X fails to start as it's unable to locate fonts for some reason, and the '/usr/bin/cvs' bins are broken too when you try to update a repo
[23:31] <Mathman> jrib: I dunno about that exactly.  I mean, im protocols tend to change, so I could see him encountering bugs.  but I'd give the junk that comes standard a try first at least
[23:31] <Mudassar> I installed it before from the same site ...
[23:31] <^Tech-Help^> lmao McRib
[23:31] <Trae> Anyone know about imwheel and buttons?  I'm trying to get button3 and button4 to switch.
[23:31] <Mudassar> it is creating some problems with me
[23:31] <NotPresent> Hirato: bad ideas are bad
[23:31] <NotPresent> Hirato: and it's off topic for here
[23:32] <Hirato> sorry, which channel then?
[23:32] <Mathman> McRib: easy buddy.  easy.  I said I have no idea.  if I did I'd probably help out, so there you go.
[23:32] <jrib> Mathman: ubuntu updates the pidgin package for security and "big" bugs
[23:32] <Pici> Hirato: #ubuntu+1
[23:32] <McRib> ^Tech-Help^: A bad nickname of mine :)
[23:32] <Hirato> thanks :)
[23:32] <tj83> is there any goog support channels i can be referred to?
[23:32] <tj83> good*
[23:32] <hagane> is this the place for noob question ?
[23:32] <Pici> tj83: #ubuntu, which is here
[23:32] <Pici> Hirato: yes.
[23:32] <jrib> hagane: for every question about ubuntu support
[23:32] <hagane> how do I install graphic driver? I donwloaded it, but it doesn't run. I found 3 NVIDIA binary X org driver in add/remove... do I need to install one of these instead of downloaded one ?
[23:32] <Starnestommy> hagane: it's the place for all ubuntu-related questions
[23:33] <tj83> Is it common for extreme instability in Ubuntu 8.04?
[23:33] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, ah i thought you had left, i did select the best server, should i uncheck  universe, restricted and multiverse?
[23:33] <tj83> I am coming from debian  to Ubuntu
[23:33] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: nah, those are fine
[23:33] <McRib> hagane: The easiest way to install the nVidia drivers is by going to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:33] <Mathman> hagane: it's always best to go with your package manager
[23:33] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, darn i still get the same errors then... how can i report this?
[23:33] <jrib> tj83: no, tell people exactly what issues you are having
[23:33] <XiD`> Hi folks, I'm a complete linux/ubuntu newbie and looking for a place to learn about why I should switch to ubuntu. I'm extremely unfamiliar with linux and am very interested to learn more, I just need a webpage or poke in the right direction to see what it offers beyond the general information at ubuntu.com
[23:34] <Marcus_Intalex> nvidia driver issue  -> did you install build-essential ?
[23:34] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: I'll pastebin my sources.list and see if you still get errors
[23:34] <mudd`Hossam> alrighty, thanks
[23:34] <hagane> I downloaded specific driver for my video card and for this specific Linux version :] So I'm interested how do I use that file (why did I downloaded it anyway ?) :]
[23:34] <McRib> XiD`: I've written two articles on the subject:  http://elyon225.wordpress.com/2007/03/18/linux-vs-windows/  and http://elyon225.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/why-do-you-need-windows/
[23:35] <XiD`> thanks McJerry
[23:35] <XiD`> er
[23:35] <hagane> I'm gonna do th system trick though
[23:35] <jrib> mudd`Hossam: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/10831/, run sudo apt-get update and then see if you can install libssl-dev
[23:35] <XiD`> McRib
[23:35] <azeem_> anyony help i have lost my desktop envierment
[23:35] <^Tech-Help^> XiD` have you tried Wubi? http://wubi-installer.org/
[23:35] <McRib> XiD`: I'm no expert, but those two short articles sort of chronicle my experiences with Ubuntu.
[23:35] <Styles___> What is "Swap"?
[23:35] <jrib> !swap > Styles___ (read the private message from ubottu)
[23:35] <hagane> Styles - swap is like pagefile
[23:35] <XiD`> roger.
[23:35] <Styles___> k
[23:35] <McRib> XiD`: But the best way to learn is to actually get hands-on and try it. :P
[23:35] <hagane> make it on different partition twice as big as your RAM and format it SWAP :]
[23:35] <Marcus_Intalex> hagane please install the build-essential package
[23:35] <Styles___> jrib: How do I set it up?
[23:35] <XiD`> ^Tech-Help^: cool, looks neat. does it run on x64?
[23:36] <XiD`> windows xp pro x64.
[23:36] <Marcus_Intalex> afterwards kill x server
[23:36] <jrib> Styles___: it should have been done when you installed
[23:36] <Styles___> jrib: Fudge..
[23:36] <XiD`> McRib noted, i'll have to check it out 8)
[23:36] <Styles___> jrib: really?
[23:36] <John117> Where can i get some good compiz fuzion cube backgrounds?
[23:36] <hagane> Marcus_Intalex: yes master! :]
[23:36] <Styles___> jrib: Do I make another partition?
[23:36] <jrib> Styles___: are you sure it isn't set up already?
[23:36] <Styles___> jrib: Well I don't think so because its not in the System Monitor its _________________ at the bottom.
[23:37] <^Tech-Help^> XiD` yes
[23:37] <XiD`> wooooot
[23:37] <cheesebob> I'm having serious trouble with 8.04 and using synaptic.
[23:37] <Trae> can someone point me to some docs where: Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 4 5" could be explained?  I don't mind RTFM I just haven't found anything yet useful to explain what that stuff is.  Plus what's a good tool to test what buttons are which?
[23:37] <Marcus_Intalex> browse to the folder where you have placed the driver
[23:37] <cheesebob> When I try to reload the list it hangs
[23:37] <jrib> Styles___: what does the command 'swapon -s' return?
[23:37] <cheesebob> 15/24
[23:37] <NMajik> Is there a way to display raw data from my wireless card?
[23:37] <McRib> Hmm... that's weird.  I'm using Konversation in Ubuntu 8.04.  But clicking on web links doesn't open them in Firefox (granted, it doesn't open them at all).  I've tried using the custom web browser setting of "firefox %u" but that still doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[23:37] <cheesebob> does anyboyd have any idea?
[23:37] <Marcus_Intalex> install driver in a non graphical environment
[23:37] <level09> how do I create tar.gz files from directories ? will this work "tar -vzf dirname" ?
[23:37] <Styles___> jrib: Nothing, it returns Filename Type Size Used Priority, but nonthing is in the liste.
[23:38] <jrib> Styles___: the link ubotu gave you, tells you how to add more swap then
[23:38] <mudd`Hossam> jrib, YES that was it, thanks alot sir/ma'am!
[23:38] <Marcus_Intalex> using the sh <drivername>
[23:38] <kitche> level09: tar -czvf <filename>.tar.gz dirname
[23:38] <Marcus_Intalex> commando
[23:38] <Mathman> NMajik: wireshark I spose?
[23:38] <level09> kitche: thanks ! i'll write that down
[23:38] <McRib> cheesebob: Just for future reference, it is a very good idea to write your entire question on just one line.  It is often difficult to follow all the parts of a question if it is dispersed throughout other conversations.
[23:38] <tj83> ok, well I Installed Ubuntu 8.04 the first time reccomended by a friend.... I wanted to experience the compiz features and they were quite impressive... but my system began to crash about every 5 in would ahve to ctrl+alt+backspace to get out... and then try again.. I re-installed and didnt enable compiz... runs much better but has frozen twice today.... . I have ATI X1200 radeon... I thought maybe it was the proprietary drivers but i have n
[23:38] <tj83> ot enabled them since re-install.
[23:38] <tj83> actually partially frozen now
[23:39] <TooFly> i have ubuntu installed, and just installed windows. now i can't boot from my ubuntu CD! it loads the kernel, and restarts my computer
[23:39] <Mathman> TooFly: mess with the boot order in your bios setup
[23:40] <Styles___> So for a swap, I have to resize this partition, then create another one ~3gigs large and (thats my ram) yeah..
[23:40] <sharperguy> what s the maximum filesize on ext3 in a default ubuntu install?
[23:40] <tj83_> sorry... crashed. i didnt get any replies? did my entry show?
[23:40] <Mathman> TooFly: oops, nevermind.  misread that
[23:40] <TooFly> Mathman:
[23:40] <TooFly> haha yeah
[23:40] <jrib> Styles___: no, you can create a swap file.  The wiki page explains this
[23:40] <Mathman> tj83_: update your system?  test your ram?  test your cpu?  dunno...
[23:40] <tj83_> its not a hardware issue.. debian runs perfect
[23:40] <NMajik> Mathman: How about as a hex stream or something though. It doesn't have to be usable but I want to try using it for RNG (granted, not very good randomness though)
[23:40] <tj83_> for weeks without reboot
[23:41] <freestyle10> hi
[23:41] <tj83_> and i did test ram and cpu when having the issue first
[23:41] <Mathman> NMajik: dunno....cat /dev/something or other?
[23:41] <freestyle10> i have problem with wine
[23:41] <billenium> How do i set a folder to not 777, but the files to 777?
[23:41] <McRib> Could someone please help me get my Microsoft (gasp!, it was cheap) Wireless Laser Desktop 4000 working?  Everything appears to work fine except for the middle mouse button... the wheel works fine, though.  Also, if you have info on how to configure the extra keys, I would accept that :)
[23:41] <jrib> billenium: what folder?  What are you doing exactly?
[23:41] <NMajik> Mathman: I was hoping something like that but I don't see "eth1" or whatever in /dev, what should I look for?
[23:42] <tj83_> seems like a memory leak to me... I was waching "top" it climbs and cimbs... after just boot..... used 500mb to just boot up.
[23:42] <freestyle10> preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000
[23:42] <Mathman> NMajik: beats me.  that was just a wild guess
[23:42] <billenium> jrib : i have a webserver, and i only want people to access the files inside the folder, not the folder itself. So they cant see what is inside.
[23:42] <thespecialone200> Hey
[23:42] <billenium> I dont know what to set the folder/files to.
[23:42] <level09> kitche: does it matter the order of the parameters ? ex: can I use tar -vczf or tar -zcvf ?
[23:42] <NMajik> Mathman: OK, thanks. Is there a way to determine what raw device eth1 references?
[23:42] <Mathman> tj83_: well, spose this is why I don't always upgrade to the latest and greatest distro foo the day it comes out
[23:42] <thespecialone200> Im having problems getting my integrated X3500 intel graphics to work....
[23:43] <kitche> level09: well f has to be last
[23:43] <thespecialone200> shouldnt that work with the newest ubuntu?
[23:43] <level09> kitche: thanks :)
[23:43] <tj83_> mathman..... what ver do you have?
[23:43] <jrib> billenium: so don't give them read permissions on the directory
[23:43] <Mathman> tj83_: ha, me?  I don't even run ubuntu.
[23:43] <tj83_>  sorry memory full again!
[23:44] <Esotericisms> evening
[23:44] <TooFly> I am having trouble installing from the Live CD -- my computer loads the kernel, waits ~15 seconds, and restarts
[23:44] <Esotericisms> I need a little help with getting ubuntu up and going
[23:44] <Plummet> whats the WINE channel? is there one?
[23:44] <billenium> jrib: how? (newb)
[23:44] <jrib> !permissions > billenium (read the private message from ubottu)
[23:44] <Mathman> Plummet: #winehq for user stuff
[23:44] <Brent^> is there a channel I should go to for help with compiz things or should I ask here?
[23:44] <thespecialone200> Should i try a more "experimental" ubuntu version to make X3500 work? its a asus p5-e vm hdmi mobo...
[23:44] <kitche> Plummet: #winehq most likely :)
[23:44] <Esotericisms> for some reason I cannot route past my firewall with my new ubuntu install, but every other machine on my network works just fine, so I am thinking it is ubuntu specific
[23:44] <jrib> Brent^: #compiz-fusion
[23:44] <freestyle10> Plummet you have problem with wine
[23:44] <kitche> Brent^: #compiz-fusion
[23:44] <Esotericisms> can anyone help?
[23:44] <freestyle10> ??
[23:45] <Mathman> tj83: have you tried a different desktop?  xfce or kde or something?
[23:45] <tj83> mathman.. what distro do you use then?
[23:45] <Plummet> freestyle10: i just dont know how to get it started at all :)
[23:45] <tj83> i am thinking i am going back to debain... not quite as user friendly... but much more PC friendly.
[23:45] <Esotericisms> anyone?
[23:45] <Mathman> tj83: depends on what machine we're talking I spose.
[23:45] <kitche> Plummet: umm wine <path/to/exe/ is how it;'s run it's a cli application
[23:45] <jrib> tj83: does the computer crash if you don't use X?
[23:46] <luigy> i need some help with my nvidea 8800m gts
[23:46] <Mathman> jrib: the computer isn't crashing I think he said, just X is getting screwed somehow
[23:46] <luigy> i have ubuntu 8.04 lts
[23:46] <statim> anyone know why there is no libmagick10-dev but there is a libmagick9-dev?
[23:47] <Mathman> jrib: ha, maybe he's just a debian troll.  who knows
[23:47] <iceolate> anyone figured out how to clone view for monitor and tv using svideo for hardy?
[23:47] <Jeruvy> Esotericisms: ...route past...?  Did you check you IP settings to make sure you've picked up a IPv4 address?
[23:47] <Trae> Hey guys I hate to be a broken record here, but surely someone knows a tool that lets you see what buttons you are pressing the output of such operations are?  I did this years ago but can't remember what the program was called and Google isn't loving me right now.
[23:47] <luigy> i need help installing my nvidia 8800m gts
[23:47] <Mathman> Trae: as far as a mouse goes you mean?
[23:48] <Trae> Mathman, yah just need to know what buttons are which when I'm pressing them.  Trying to setup my xorg.conf so it works right.
[23:48] <kmee> did u look at restricted drivers on your system for your 8800?
[23:48] <Trae> Mathman, and experimenting with ButtonMapping numbers blindly isn't fun.
[23:48] <Mathman> Trae: yeah, and that sounds way familiar too.  give me a sec
[23:48] <Esotericisms> can anyone help me with a networking problem?!
[23:49] <Trae> Mathman, thanks bud.
[23:49] <Mathman> Trae: hmm, or I could be thinking game pads...but give me a sec
[23:49] <luigy> i dont think they have the restricted drives option in hardy ubuntu
[23:49] <Trae> Mathman, you'd think the discover mech would be the same probably.
[23:49] <SeaPhor> Esotericisms, depends, whats the problem
[23:49] <cmw72> is there no longer a "screens and graphics" menu item in ubuntu ?
[23:49] <Esotericisms> SeaPhor: I just got ubuntu installed, got my interface setup but ubuntu won't route past my firewall
[23:50] <cmw72> (in 8.04)
[23:50] <kmee> i have hardy and i saw my 8600m gs in restricted drivers, i belive under administration, i just enabled it and i was fine
[23:50] <Esotericisms> SeaPhor: I have two other linux boxes and three windows machines that work just fine
[23:50] <SeaPhor> Esotericisms, hardware or software firewall?
[23:50] <Trae> Esotericisms, I hate to ask this but... (and please don't think I'm being mean)  have you double checked the physical connections.
[23:50] <K-Rich> Will programs i compiled under gutsy still work under hardy or will i need to recompile?
[23:50] <luigy> kmee i just enabled it... am gonna restart rite now
[23:50] <Esotericisms> Trae: ues
[23:50] <Esotericisms> yes
[23:50] <Esotericisms> cause I can get to all my devices on the internal side of my network
[23:51] <kmee> god luck luigy
[23:51] <kmee> good*
[23:51] <luigy> thanx bro
[23:51] <kmee> np
[23:51] <toreador> Enter text here...
[23:51] <spanther> omg nice luigy xD
[23:51] <Esotericisms> SeaPhor: its a hardware firewall that allows all traffic out from my lan
[23:51] <Trae> Esotericisms, Have you tried this...  Take out one of the working cables and swap it.  So you know that the cable is good.  (Cables do go bad)
[23:51] <toreador> by
[23:51] <spanther> luigy,  super mario :D
[23:51] <luigy> i heard that so many times
[23:51] <luigy> used to it already
[23:51] <spanther> xD
[23:51] <Esotericisms> Trae: I have no packet loss and I can get to the internal side
[23:51] <K-Rich> Will the programs i compiled under gutsy still work under hardy or will i need to recompile?
[23:51] <kmee> lol
[23:51] <spanther> luigy,  be happy luigy is a cool name x3
[23:52] <Esotericisms> if I try and ping google I get destination not available
[23:52] <Trae> Esotericisms, ahhh so you can ping your router?
[23:52] <Esotericisms> but if I ping my gateway it is fine
[23:52] <Esotericisms> yeah
[23:52] <luigy> i like it.. n that is wat i care
[23:52] <Trae> Esotericisms, sounds like a defaultroute issue.
[23:52] <Mathman> Trae: yeah, sorry.  I gave it a shot though.
[23:52] <spanther> luigy, yeah ^.^
[23:52] <SeaPhor> Esotericisms, this is kinda off topic if you want to join me in #SeaPhor, I'll try all I know
[23:52] <Trae> Mathman, np
[23:52] <John117> any suggestions on where i can get skydome backgrounds?
[23:53] <espinha_> heelo
[23:53] <hagane> if I have Ubuntu 64, do I need programs for Linux 64 specificly ?
[23:54] <espinha_> someone can help me?
[23:54] <spanther> hagane,  you can run 32bit applications without problems too
[23:54] <hagane> Yey :]
[23:54] <McRib> !ask | espinha_
[23:54] <spanther> hagane, just install 32bit librarys
[23:54] <cmdbbq> wondering if i could get an opinion of filesystems; I have a 1TB external drive and a 300GB external drive i am going to use them to store movies (dvd rips) file sizes between 350MB - 3GB what is the best file system performance and stability wise?
[23:54] <McRib> Could someone please help me get my Microsoft (gasp!, it was cheap) Wireless Laser Desktop 4000 working?  Everything appears to work fine except for the middle mouse button... the wheel works fine, though.  Also, if you have info on how to configure the extra keys, I would accept that :)
[23:55] <hagane> spanther:  I understood, thank you for information :]
[23:55] <DShepherd> John117, http://www.compiz-themes.org/
[23:55] <spanther> McRib, mine was cheaper :P    speedlink LASER USB mouse xD  10euro :> but works nice ^^
[23:55] <spanther> hagane,  no problem hehe :)
[23:55] <kmee> For skydomes, try this site : http://beryl-themes.org/
[23:55] <trebel> i just made the jump from gutsy to hardy and i'm having all kinds of nvidia driver problems.  Xorg keeps loading vesa for some reason and I can't build the drivers myself because they were compiled on gcc 4.1 and i have 4.2.  Anyone have any ideas on a work around?
[23:55] <rodolfo> anyone here uses evolution to access hotmail inox?
[23:55] <rodolfo> ops, inbox* :P
[23:56] <eugman> Anyone know how to add people to my buddy list in finch?
[23:56] <luigy> cant wait to install compiz
[23:56] <espinha_> hello, i will install fedora core, and this is not the currectly channel, someone knows the name of fedora channel (sorry my bad english :P)
[23:56] <DShepherd> eugman, you can try asking in #pidgin
[23:56] <DIL> rodolfo, you have to have full version paid to forward mail
[23:56] <Starnestommy> espinha_: #fedora
[23:56] <McRib> spanther: You had no problems getting all the mouse buttons recognized?
[23:56] <eugman> DSheperherd, good idea, thanks
[23:56] <sockel1> irc.abjects.net/evil
[23:56] <DShepherd> eugman, your welcome
[23:56] <gobbo> alright, so, I didn't do anything other than upgrade to Hardy Heron, but I can't seem to mount any flash drive.  I checked the mount points and, before the upgrade, to mount a USB port, it was "mount /dev/sda1", but now it says sda1 is my hard drive, so... does anyone here have an idea of what I should do?
[23:56] <rodolfo> DIL: what?
[23:56] <DIL> rodolfo, you have to have full version paid version of hotmail
[23:57] <Esotericisms> Trae: what is build-essential?
[23:57] <spanther> McRib, nope hehe :)
[23:57] <trebel> gobbo check sdb1
[23:57] <rodolfo> DIL: what do you mean by 'full version paid'?
[23:57] <Trae> Esotericisms, gcc and such
[23:57] <Starnestommy> Esotericisms: it's a package that lets you compile things from source
[23:57] <TuPari> I just upgraded to 8.04 and now I can't adjust my sound settings
[23:57] <nano_> whats the name of avant-windows-manager channel?
[23:57] <espinha_> ohh yeah, tanks, and a a portuguese channel? u know?
[23:57] <DShepherd> gobbo, you are mounting your thumb drive from the command-line?
[23:57] <spanther> McRib, maybe (like so often -.-" ) microsoft mouse doesnt follow actual standards
[23:57] <gerardoj> Hello guys, Im having a problem with my GTK theme, when I open any gnome application as sudo, everything looks like I have no theme, but normal user it works fine. What could be the problem?
[23:57] <Esotericisms> sweet thanks
[23:58] <DShepherd> nano_, #awn
[23:58] <nano_> DShepherd: thnx
[23:58] <prakriti> Does anybody know why compiz is putting a purple glow around my windows and how to change it?
[23:58] <Starnestommy> espinha_: #fedora-br
[23:58] <DShepherd> nano_, your welcome
[23:58] <DIL> rodolfo, there is a free version and then there is a full version that one has to pay for.  with that version you can forward mail similar to using gmail or other
[23:58] <rodolfo> DIL: do you know any evolution-dev's channel? if that exists..
[23:58] <sockel1> irc.abjects.net/evil
[23:58] <espinha_> thank you :'D
[23:58] <espinha_> huhu
[23:59] <TuPari> Is there some reason kmix won't work with pulseaudio?
[23:59] <DShepherd> prakriti, that's the group tab plugin. open up ccsm and go to the glow tab for that plugin
[23:59] <McRib> spanther: I actually was worried they had some kind of software in the keyboard and mouse to detect if the OS is Linux and thus refuse to work.
[23:59] <McRib> :)
[23:59] <DShepherd> prakriti, you can disable the group tab plugin if you are not using it