[00:00] <nickellery> Also, you can see what I mean here: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/xulrunner-1.9/+pots/xulrunner/en_CA/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated
[00:00] <dasdsdsadsdasd> now appears "packacking - project in Ubuntu Hardy" at my project page
[00:01] <kiko> nickellery, ask on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-translations
[00:01] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, what's your project URL?
[00:01] <nickellery> alright, thanks kiko
[00:01] <dasdsdsadsdasd> https://launchpad.net/gscrot/
[00:02] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, well, it looks like you did the right thing -- this is the official gscrot, right?
[00:02] <dasdsdsadsdasd> yes, it is
[00:02] <kiko> then you've done the right thing!
[00:02] <dasdsdsadsdasd> but there is no release of gscrot in hardy
[00:02] <kiko> ah
[00:02] <kiko> is it in a PPA?
[00:02] <dasdsdsadsdasd> yes
[00:02] <dasdsdsadsdasd> https://launchpad.net/~gscrot/+archive4
[00:03] <kiko> so this is a bug! :)
[00:03] <dasdsdsadsdasd> https://launchpad.net/~gscrot/+archive
[00:03] <kiko> it's a known bug that I am hoping will get fixed this cycle
[00:03] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, you can leave the packaging entry there I guess -- are you going to get it sponsored into Ubuntu?
[00:03] <dasdsdsadsdasd> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gscrot
[00:03] <kiko> yeah, I'm looking at that
[00:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> there is no current...
[00:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ah, ok..sorry
[00:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> well, sponsored into ubuntu
[00:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i hope so
[00:04] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ;-)
[00:05] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hm, ok. there is nothing i can do to get rid of the packaging information at my overview page?
[00:09] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, you can get an admin to do it, but it's not reeeally necessary
[00:09] <kiko> and I can help you try and get it sponsored!
[00:09] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok, thanks a lot
[00:10] <dasdsdsadsdasd> how can you help me?
[00:11] <kiko> has anyone in ubuntu motu checked the package out yet?
[00:11] <dasdsdsadsdasd> no
[00:11] <dasdsdsadsdasd> for universe ?
[00:12] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i am really new to the whole launchpad and packaging thing
[00:15] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, mmm. okay. 
[00:15] <kiko> Hobbsee, do you know what the procedure page is for us to sponsor a package into universe?
[00:22] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hm, Hobbsee in not there?
[00:29] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, hmmm. how about we ask in #ubuntu-motu?
[00:30] <dasdsdsadsdasd> sorry?
[00:30] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, a different channel.
[00:30] <dasdsdsadsdasd> is there a special procedure?
[00:30] <kiko> there is, but we need to figure out what it is!
[00:30] <dasdsdsadsdasd> yes, i know?
[00:30] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok
[00:32] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, can you /j #ubuntu-motu?
[00:32] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i was looking at the german ubuntu community wiki
[00:32] <dasdsdsadsdasd> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-contributors/
[00:32] <dasdsdsadsdasd> is not wrkong
[00:32] <dasdsdsadsdasd> working
[00:32] <kiko> oh?
[00:33] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i dont know if the wiki article is too old
[00:33] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, <TheMuso> kiko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[00:33] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, he's offered to help you if you join the channel
[00:33] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok, fine 
[00:34] <dasdsdsadsdasd> thanks
[01:14] <jaromil> hi, i'm a new launchpad user, with some questions :)
[01:16] <thumper> jaromil: hi
[01:16] <thumper> perhaps we could even answer them
[01:16] <kiko> heh
[01:19] <jaromil> on pages about binary packages, is there a way to link also the upstream source repository?
[01:22] <jaromil> and two more questions which i fear have been asked already a zillion times:
[01:23] <jaromil> any branch import planned for git to bazaar?
[01:24] <jaromil> any place i can download the sourcecode ot launchpad and/or repository? (sorry for asking, i didn't found yet, indeed i'm new to bazaar and launchpad)
[01:34] <thumper> jaromil: LP isn't yet open sourced, but there are plans, please see theFAQ
[01:34] <thumper> jaromil: re git -> bzr, planned - not yet, thought about - yes
[01:35] <jaromil> i think i've found the answer also to the first question, sent a mail to nitrofurano
[01:35] <thumper> jaromil: ah, good
[01:35] <jaromil> thanks thumper
[01:37] <jaromil> it's a pity to not have the source for LP yet, 1.2.4 sounds mature :) which language is written with?
[01:49] <thumper> jaromil: python using a zope3 base
[01:49] <thumper> jaromil: it isn't about maturity of code see the FAQ
[01:51] <jaromil> ah ok found
[01:51] <jaromil> ugly reason
[01:52] <jaromil> centralization is actually a problem, IMHO
[02:09] <thumper> jaromil: centralization helps if looking for bugs and things
[02:09] <thumper> why should I have to check 20 different places that might have bugs for my project
[02:09] <thumper> ?
[02:13] <jaromil>  i run a bugtracker for dyne.org projects since quite some years... how can i link it for people that finds freej on launchpad?
[02:15] <jaromil> sorry to answer with another question, but it's just specular :)
[02:15] <nealmcb> why do these bugs not show up on my list of subscribed bugs at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~nealmcb/+subscribedbugs ?  I'm always having to search all over for them....  same with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/111610 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/66093
[02:19] <thumper> jaromil: what type of bugtracker is it?
[02:20] <jaromil> mantis
[02:20] <thumper> I'm pretty sure that LP supports mantis as an external bugtracker
[02:20] <jaromil> ack. kewl
[02:20] <thumper> so you can register the bugtracker, and link bug reports in LP to the external location
[02:20] <thumper> I'm sure there is a help page somewhere
[02:24] <mwhudson> jaromil: https://help.launchpad.net/Mantis
[02:24] <jaromil> yep i'm just done reading
[02:25] <thumper> jaromil: also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers
[02:25] <jaromil> so i understand the intent is more to aggregate rather than host
[02:26] <thumper> jaromil: well, LP hosts the LP bug tracker
[02:26] <thumper> jaromil: and is able to link those bugs to other places
[02:26] <jaromil> i like the feature of compiling on different platforms, a lot
[02:27] <jaromil> i just wonder, and it's my last curiosity for tonite, how to interact with it
[02:28] <thumper> jaromil: PPAs is the easiest
[02:28]  * thumper lunches
[02:29] <jaromil> bonapetit
[02:29] <jaromil> i'll give PPA a try :) thanks, ciao
[03:57] <Hobbsee> kiko-zzz: it's on the first link in the topic from #ubuntu-motu
[04:14] <kirkland> i'm getting Error '(104, 'Connection reset by peer')' during ftp transfer errors again when uploading to my PPA  :-/
[04:40] <alecwh> I'm new to launchpad, and I recently queued a branch for merging (back into my dev branch). How long does the merge take? It's very small...
[04:40] <mwhudson> alecwh: um
[04:41] <mwhudson> it's not done automatically
[04:41] <thumper> alecwh: lovely
[04:41] <alecwh> oh, do I need to do it myself? https://code.launchpad.net/~alecwh/phpns/head
[04:42] <thumper> alecwh: we are working on robotic landing, which will mean that you'd be able to run PQM locally and have it use launchpad as a queue source
[04:42]  * ajmitch doesn't envy the person who has to sit & turn the crank
[04:42] <thumper> ajmitch: which crank?
[04:42] <spiv> alecwh: yeah, just use "bzr merge" yourself.
[04:42] <alecwh> For now, do I need to merge it myself (on my computer)
[04:42] <alecwh> ok
[04:42] <rockstar_> I think the crank broke.  They gave me a wrench
[04:43] <thumper> alecwh: yeah, you don't want other people committing to your branch (really, you don't)
[04:43] <alecwh> I know, that's why I like to have them work on their own branch, and I'll accept it if it's good.
[04:44] <alecwh> How does that merge command look like?
[04:44] <thumper> bzr merge
[04:44] <rockstar_> bzr help merge
[04:44] <ajmitch> thumper: sorry, thought that stuff stuck into a queue had to be processed manually on the LP side
[04:44] <mwhudson> different queues
[04:44] <spiv> alecwh: in the checkout of the branch you want to merge into, do "bzr merge PATH_TO_OTHER_BRANCH"
[04:45] <spiv> alecwh: then if the merge looks ok, do "bzr commit"
[04:45] <alecwh> so PATH_TO_OTHER_BRANCH is the other branch that I want merged into my dev?
[04:45] <spiv> alecwh: the bzr docs have the full details, but that's the core of it.
[04:45] <spiv> Right.
[04:45] <alecwh> ok, great
[04:47] <alecwh> spiv: that worked excellently, thanks everyone.
[04:47] <lifeless> sounds like launchpads merge request thing can cause confusion here
[05:25] <thumper> lifeless: gee, ya think?
[05:44] <lifeless> thumper: :P
[05:53] <lifeless> thumper: I wasn't meaning to be critical
[05:53] <thumper> lifeless: :P#
[06:57] <Hobbsee> my bad.  it would help if i didn't do the mangling dance for my own ppa packages.
[09:21] <stgraber> Can anyone please approve Pierre Ferrari (account "piferrari") in the LP beta tester group ? He would like to give OpenID a try and help testing LP.
[09:36] <pochu> hi there. my list of uploaded packages seems to have been reduced for some reason... I know there was at least gnome-system-tools, liboops and system-tools-backends there which aren't anymore. is that a known issue? https://edge.launchpad.net/~pochu/+packages
[10:23] <cprov> pochu: the versions of the mentioned packages that you have uploaded are not published in the archive anymore.
[10:24] <cprov> pochu: they were superseded by other uploads done by someone else.
[10:24] <cprov> pochu: it that okay ?
[10:26] <pochu> cprov: ah. well, I would have expected for it to be there, and to only be superseeded by another upload of mine...
[10:27] <pochu> cprov: although I guess fixing bug 125987 would be okay
[10:28] <cprov> pochu: could be.
[10:28] <pochu> I've reported bug 228142 about my issue, btw
[10:28] <cprov> pochu: talk to bigjools about it.
[10:28] <cprov> pochu: I will triage it in a bit.
[10:28] <pochu> thanks
[10:30] <pochu> cprov-afk, bigjools: one of the problems I see with this is that new contributors won't have their history there (useful when you apply for MOTU or to know what someone has done). That's already bad if there's just the last upload, but it's even worse if it's not because someone else uploaded the same package
[10:31] <pochu> That's why I guess fixing 125987 would be nice for this, but I'm convinced the current approach is good anyway...
[10:32] <thekorn_> hi, I've got a question about the PPA 'copy packages' feature,
[10:32] <thekorn_> let's say I copy a package from hardy to gutsy,
[10:32] <thekorn_> are things like   Depends: ${python:Depends}, ${misc:Depends},  resolved correctly?
[10:33] <thekorn_> hey pochu!
[10:34] <pochu> hi thekorn_!
[10:34] <pochu> thekorn_: I've seen you're going to UDS, so we will meet there! :)
[10:34] <thekorn_> YUHU!
[11:16] <laga> hi. does launchpad have an API? i'd like to write a script that extracts information and backtraces from bug reports and submits them to upstream
[12:17] <wgrant> laga: Not at this stage, but it should apparently be growing one within a month or two.
[12:23] <BUGabundo_work> hi
[12:23] <BUGabundo_work> please remember me
[12:23] <BUGabundo_work> what is the ubuntu website LP project
[12:23] <BUGabundo_work> where we file bugs against?
[12:24] <BUGabundo_work> found it
[12:24] <BUGabundo_work> ubuntu-website
[12:27] <BUGabundo_work> where is the LP tags wiki?
[12:27]  * BUGabundo_work wonders, is everyone at sleep?
[12:29] <laga> wgrant: great. is there any work underway to forward bugs to upstream natively within launchpad?
[12:29] <BUGabundo_work> ok, I filed #228171
[12:34] <wgrant> Bug #228171
[12:34] <wgrant> laga: Not sure.
[14:56] <MooDoo> hello all, could someone tell me how to disband a team in launchpad?
[14:56] <kiko> MooDoo, just ask a question on answers.l.n, see /topic
[14:58] <MooDoo> thanks kiko, sorry should have noticed that :)
[15:55] <AnAnt> Hello, can someone have a look at this build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14364601/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.swt-gtk_3.4%7EM6-1%7Eppa4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz , I suspect that there is a problem with python maybe or dh_nativejava under the lpia arch, since it builds well for i386
[15:56] <AnAnt> sorry, I mean I suspect the problem is either in python or /usr/bin/aot-compile
[16:11] <nealmcb> why do these bugs not show up on my list of subscribed bugs at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~nealmcb/+subscribedbugs ?  I'm always having to search all over for them....  same with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/111610 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/66093
[16:13] <matsubara> nealmcb: first one is dupe, so it's not on search results by default
[16:14] <matsubara> nealmcb: and it seems that +subscribedbugs page doesn't take into account implicit subscriptions
[16:15] <nealmcb> matsubara: but the only choice I get on the implicit bug page is "unsubscribe"?
[16:17] <matsubara> nealmcb: yes, +subscribedbugs doesn't take into account implicit subscriptions, see bug 61429
[16:17] <nealmcb> matsubara: (thanks for the help - this has been bugging me for a while!)
[16:17] <matsubara> nealmcb: workaround is to unsubscribe from the master bug, which will unsubscribed from the dupe as well
[16:17] <matsubara> nealmcb: and re-subscribe to the master bug.
[16:18] <nealmcb> got it - many thanks!
[16:18] <matsubara> np
[16:22] <nealmcb> matsubara: I guess I don't see a way to query for the other dups I'm subscribed to so I can fix them also.  need to diff the two listings I guess.  When will that nice launchpad api be out so I don't have to screen scrape?  :-)
[16:26] <matsubara> nealmcb: advanced search has an option to show dupes. I think the ETA for the api is this or the next cycle.
[16:27] <nealmcb> matsubara: right - I can show dups, but not _only_ dups as far as I can see
[16:28] <matsubara> nealmcb: you're right. no way to only show dupes, AFAIK
[16:28] <nealmcb> not the highest priority, of course....
[18:28] <thekorn> hi, sorry for bringing this up again, but I have a question about copieing packages in a PPA,
[18:28] <thekorn> let's say I uploaded a package to hardy
[18:28] <thekorn> and I would like to copy it to the guts section
[18:29] <thekorn> are dependencies like    ${python:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[18:29] <thekorn> adjusted properly?
[18:54] <kiko> Rinchen, meeting tiiime t-6
[19:08] <Rinchen> next meeting changed
[20:35] <laga> hello. what does the apport-failed-retrace tag mean? it seems that apport was able to create a backtrace, so i'm wondering if it's just not complete.
[20:35] <laga> an example would be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/205340
[20:39] <laga> also, is it possible _not_ to list bugs with the apport-failed-retrace tag?
[21:05] <BjornT> laga: no, it's not (yet) possible to exclude bugs with the apport-failed-retrace tag. i don't know what that tag means. it's ubuntu specific, so you're better off asking in #ubuntu-bugs.
[21:06] <laga> thanks.
[21:15] <kiko> I think it means that the retracer failed to retrace the core dump, laga, BjornT 
[21:34] <stgraber>  Could someone accept Pierre Ferrari (account "piferrari") in the LP beta tester group ? He would like to give OpenID a try and help testing LP
[22:14] <fta> http://oduinn.com/2008/05/07/we-have-how-many-machines/ those guys are serious with builders ;)
[22:41] <Rinchen> wow fta that's a lot of machines.  I thought I was reading about the python build farm there before I saw mozilla mentioned
[22:42] <fta> i wish canonical could compete ;)