[01:34] <J-_> Will Intrepid have ext4?
[02:13] <Amaranth> J-_: you probably have it now
[03:32] <Jonn> So I have a question: I have a Linksys router connected to my cable modem, but the IP that the router is providing is blocked by the company. How can I change the IP addresses that are released from the router?
[03:41] <Amaranth> Jonn: That's not a question about ubuntu intrepid...
[03:41] <Amaranth> That's not even a question about ubuntu
[03:43] <Jonn> I know, but as I do use ubuntu, I thought it was fine to ask anyway :P
[09:40] <zeno__> http://pastebin.com/m6a6ce1c6
[09:41] <zeno__> errors when i try to upgrade
[14:07] <ccooke> ... I'm surprised this channel is here already :-)
[14:07] <ccooke> How much divergence has there been so far?
[14:37] <Titan> which is better to intall on my old box, ubuntu or microxp
[14:38] <Pici> Titan: This is a support channel for Intrepid Ibex, probably best to ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:38] <J-_> Amaranth: Nah, I don't have ext4. I'm running hardy on my lappy. I'm tempted to dualboot Hardy/ Intrepid though.
[15:39] <J-_> Can I do a dist upgrade from Hardy to get Intrepid? I know it's pre-alpha. I want to find/ report bugs.
[15:39] <hydrogen> If you don't know the answer to that question
[15:39] <hydrogen> then you shouldn't be asking
[15:40] <hydrogen> and/or thinking about upgrading
[15:40] <J-_> Hehe
[15:40] <J-_> So I can't dualboot, Hardy/ Intrepid?
[15:40] <hydrogen> Wait until an alpha or beta is released, at this time reporitng bugs isn't really that helpful
[15:40] <J-_> yep
[15:43] <J-_> I'll see if a dist upgrade does anything once I install Hardy in another partition. Not that hard of a question to answer. It's not like I'm going to install a pre-alpha in a production evironment.
[15:43] <J-_> environment.
[15:44] <RussellGee> anyone know when the syncs will start regularly ?
[16:55]  * WoDaN looks for some education ;-)
[16:56] <WoDaN> what's a decent commandline tool to see what packages are available in what dist and what revision they have?
[16:56] <WoDaN> aptitude doesn't seem to give that info, apt-get is very 'terse'
[16:56] <WoDaN> so what's left?
[16:57] <Pici> WoDaN: apt-cache madison or rmadison
[16:58] <WoDaN> Pici: are madison/rmadison apt-cache options or did you just mention 3 solutions? ;-)
[16:59] <Pici> WoDaN: 'apt-cache madison packagename' or 'rmadison packagename'  two different commands
[17:36] <soc> hi
[17:36] <soc> is there a xorg breakage currently?
[17:37] <soc> got this problem a few days ago: ﻿http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212673/
[17:38] <soc> uff wait, wrong paste
[17:49] <Amaranth> soc: Yes
[17:53] <soc> http://pastebin.com/m416719db
[17:54] <soc> here is the right one ...
[17:54] <soc> Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'
[17:57] <Amaranth> soc: Yep, this is known
[18:06] <gnomefreak> soc: install version 1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 and pin it for now if you want X again
[18:07] <soc> mhh
[18:07] <soc> ok
[18:07] <soc> how can i do that?
[18:07] <gnomefreak> you can get that version from packages.ubuntu.com if its no longer in cache
[18:07] <soc> ok
[18:07] <gnomefreak> install hardys version
[18:07] <soc> assuming it is in the cache:
[18:07] <gnomefreak> soc: its not in cache i just checked
[18:08] <gnomefreak> acourding to my chroot its not in cache
[18:08] <gnomefreak> according even
[18:08] <soc> dpkg install libxfont_amd64_1.3.1-2.deb
[18:08] <soc> something like this?
[18:08] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i packagename
[18:08] <soc> ah sure ...
[18:09] <gnomefreak> if using the .deb from p.u.c
[18:09] <soc>  how do i pin it then?
[18:09] <gnomefreak> soc: are you sure you want to be running intrepid at this point?
[18:09] <soc> i have some laptops i use for testing
[18:09] <gnomefreak> soc: it is suggested you know enough to fix it if it breaks and knowing dpkg/apt is very highly needed
[18:10] <soc> i assumed the whole time it was something related to the drivers (radeonhd) and the font thing was just a symptom ..
[18:11] <gnomefreak> anyway pinning sudo -s <enter> than echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections
[18:11] <gnomefreak> nope bug in the updated package
[18:12] <soc> mh ok
[18:12] <soc> i just checked ...
[18:12] <soc> 1:1.3.1-2 exactly this version is already installed
[18:13] <gnomefreak> if you have X it is instlaled  if you dont its the newest version that is installed
[18:13] <soc> x is installed
[18:13] <soc> i thought this version should fix the problem ...
[18:16] <soc> so the system is fully up-to-date, ﻿1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 is installed, x is installed, but it doesn't work
[18:21] <gnomefreak> mvo_: im re-writing the pinning wiki becase the instructions were wrong or outdated.
[18:21] <soc> can someone help me?
[18:34] <Amaranth> soc: You should not being using intrepid right now
[20:26] <WoDaN> Amaranth: you mean we should again learn where to find those bugreports when we're toying with the dev version :P
[20:27] <WoDaN> Amaranth: last time I found such bugreports easily with google
[20:27] <WoDaN> Amaranth: I'm in the same situation; but didn't see any report on this one, at least when googling
[20:27] <Amaranth> err
[20:27] <WoDaN> maybe google isn't so fast anymore as it used to be ;-)
[20:27] <Amaranth> I mean, if you don't know how to fix it yourself you should wait for alpha 4
[20:27] <WoDaN> Amaranth: it's not that
[20:28] <WoDaN> Amaranth: since I know libxfont is the culprit, I should be able to fix it
[20:28] <WoDaN> Amaranth: but one has to know that first :P
[20:28] <WoDaN> it looked more like an X bug to me, I don't see X doing any real check as to why it refuses to pick up the font dirs, but at the end it does just declare each one invalid
[20:29] <Amaranth> all gcc is broken
[20:29] <Amaranth> err, also
[20:29] <WoDaN> ;)
[20:29] <Amaranth> and there is a perl transition happening
[20:29] <WoDaN> yeah, that I noticed
[20:29] <WoDaN> what about gcc is broken?
[20:30] <WoDaN> compiling?
[20:30] <WoDaN> or lib causing errors+
[20:30] <Amaranth> afaik i'm the only person successfully running intrepid right now :P
[20:30] <WoDaN> the dependancy mess I saw
[20:30] <Amaranth> i think it's libstdc++, dunno
[20:30] <Amaranth> i didn't upgrade it
[20:30] <WoDaN> but that's not a real issuea atm
[20:30] <WoDaN> ;-)
[20:30] <Amaranth> all the other devs run it in a VM or chroot
[20:30] <Amaranth> i run it on my laptop :P
[20:30] <WoDaN> heh
[20:30]  * WoDaN too
[20:30] <WoDaN> although I'm not a dezv ;-)
[20:31] <WoDaN> and my X is broken ;-)
[20:31] <Amaranth> Right, I said successfully
[20:31] <WoDaN> anyway
[20:31] <WoDaN> seems this is an interesting chan
[20:31] <WoDaN> more interesting that #ubuntu
[20:31] <Amaranth> Reinstall hardy, come back in a month
[20:31] <WoDaN> less cluelessness ;-)
[20:31] <Amaranth> or 3
[20:32] <WoDaN> no way ;-)
[20:32] <Amaranth> Doesn't seem any less clueful to me :P
[20:32] <Amaranth> err, more clueful
[20:32] <WoDaN> Amaranth: at least you're here, and that's a big difference with #ubuntu :P
[20:32]  * Amaranth gets more caffeine
[20:32] <Amaranth> I'm in #ubuntu too
[20:32] <Amaranth> And I talk there about as much as here
[20:32] <WoDaN> heh
[20:32] <Amaranth> (almost never)
[20:32] <WoDaN> lol
[20:33] <WoDaN> oh well
[20:33] <WoDaN> I'll hang out some more here and see if my first impression is correct :P
[20:33] <Amaranth> It isn't
[20:33] <Amaranth> There are a handful of people who know what is going on and a million people who don't know anything but want the latest shiny stuff
[20:33] <WoDaN> leaving is always an option
[20:33] <WoDaN> Amaranth: sure
[20:34] <Amaranth> And expect the small handful to fix all their problems :P
[20:34] <WoDaN> Amaranth: but if you're not part of the in-crowd, but you want to get to know the news, hanging around those helps
[20:34] <WoDaN> no worries, I know what I'm doing, and I'm good enough to fix a mess
[20:35] <WoDaN> what I don't know is the news I should know :P
[20:35] <WoDaN> (and the channels I should know :-P)