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J-_Will Intrepid have ext4?01:34
AmaranthJ-_: you probably have it now02:13
JonnSo I have a question: I have a Linksys router connected to my cable modem, but the IP that the router is providing is blocked by the company. How can I change the IP addresses that are released from the router?03:32
AmaranthJonn: That's not a question about ubuntu intrepid...03:41
AmaranthThat's not even a question about ubuntu03:41
JonnI know, but as I do use ubuntu, I thought it was fine to ask anyway :P03:43
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zeno__http://pastebin.com/m6a6ce1c609:40
zeno__errors when i try to upgrade09:41
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ccooke... I'm surprised this channel is here already :-)14:07
ccookeHow much divergence has there been so far?14:07
Titanwhich is better to intall on my old box, ubuntu or microxp14:37
PiciTitan: This is a support channel for Intrepid Ibex, probably best to ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic14:38
J-_Amaranth: Nah, I don't have ext4. I'm running hardy on my lappy. I'm tempted to dualboot Hardy/ Intrepid though.14:38
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J-_Can I do a dist upgrade from Hardy to get Intrepid? I know it's pre-alpha. I want to find/ report bugs.15:39
hydrogenIf you don't know the answer to that question15:39
hydrogenthen you shouldn't be asking15:39
hydrogenand/or thinking about upgrading15:40
J-_Hehe15:40
J-_So I can't dualboot, Hardy/ Intrepid?15:40
hydrogenWait until an alpha or beta is released, at this time reporitng bugs isn't really that helpful15:40
J-_yep15:40
J-_I'll see if a dist upgrade does anything once I install Hardy in another partition. Not that hard of a question to answer. It's not like I'm going to install a pre-alpha in a production evironment.15:43
J-_environment.15:43
RussellGeeanyone know when the syncs will start regularly ?15:44
* WoDaN looks for some education ;-)16:55
WoDaNwhat's a decent commandline tool to see what packages are available in what dist and what revision they have?16:56
WoDaNaptitude doesn't seem to give that info, apt-get is very 'terse'16:56
WoDaNso what's left?16:56
PiciWoDaN: apt-cache madison or rmadison16:57
WoDaNPici: are madison/rmadison apt-cache options or did you just mention 3 solutions? ;-)16:58
PiciWoDaN: 'apt-cache madison packagename' or 'rmadison packagename'  two different commands16:59
sochi17:36
socis there a xorg breakage currently?17:36
socgot this problem a few days ago: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212673/17:37
socuff wait, wrong paste17:38
Amaranthsoc: Yes17:49
sochttp://pastebin.com/m416719db17:53
sochere is the right one ...17:54
socFatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'17:54
Amaranthsoc: Yep, this is known17:57
gnomefreaksoc: install version 1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 and pin it for now if you want X again18:06
socmhh18:07
socok18:07
sochow can i do that?18:07
gnomefreakyou can get that version from packages.ubuntu.com if its no longer in cache18:07
socok18:07
gnomefreakinstall hardys version18:07
socassuming it is in the cache:18:07
gnomefreaksoc: its not in cache i just checked18:07
gnomefreakacourding to my chroot its not in cache18:08
gnomefreakaccording even18:08
socdpkg install libxfont_amd64_1.3.1-2.deb18:08
socsomething like this?18:08
gnomefreakdpkg -i packagename18:08
socah sure ...18:08
gnomefreakif using the .deb from p.u.c18:09
soc how do i pin it then?18:09
gnomefreaksoc: are you sure you want to be running intrepid at this point?18:09
soci have some laptops i use for testing18:09
gnomefreaksoc: it is suggested you know enough to fix it if it breaks and knowing dpkg/apt is very highly needed18:09
soci assumed the whole time it was something related to the drivers (radeonhd) and the font thing was just a symptom ..18:10
gnomefreakanyway pinning sudo -s <enter> than echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections18:11
gnomefreaknope bug in the updated package18:11
socmh ok18:12
soci just checked ...18:12
soc1:1.3.1-2 exactly this version is already installed18:12
gnomefreakif you have X it is instlaled  if you dont its the newest version that is installed18:13
socx is installed18:13
soci thought this version should fix the problem ...18:13
socso the system is fully up-to-date, 1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 is installed, x is installed, but it doesn't work18:16
gnomefreakmvo_: im re-writing the pinning wiki becase the instructions were wrong or outdated.18:21
soccan someone help me?18:21
Amaranthsoc: You should not being using intrepid right now18:34
WoDaNAmaranth: you mean we should again learn where to find those bugreports when we're toying with the dev version :P20:26
WoDaNAmaranth: last time I found such bugreports easily with google20:27
WoDaNAmaranth: I'm in the same situation; but didn't see any report on this one, at least when googling20:27
Amarantherr20:27
WoDaNmaybe google isn't so fast anymore as it used to be ;-)20:27
AmaranthI mean, if you don't know how to fix it yourself you should wait for alpha 420:27
WoDaNAmaranth: it's not that20:27
WoDaNAmaranth: since I know libxfont is the culprit, I should be able to fix it20:28
WoDaNAmaranth: but one has to know that first :P20:28
WoDaNit looked more like an X bug to me, I don't see X doing any real check as to why it refuses to pick up the font dirs, but at the end it does just declare each one invalid20:28
Amaranthall gcc is broken20:29
Amarantherr, also20:29
WoDaN;)20:29
Amaranthand there is a perl transition happening20:29
WoDaNyeah, that I noticed20:29
WoDaNwhat about gcc is broken?20:29
WoDaNcompiling?20:30
WoDaNor lib causing errors+20:30
Amaranthafaik i'm the only person successfully running intrepid right now :P20:30
WoDaNthe dependancy mess I saw20:30
Amaranthi think it's libstdc++, dunno20:30
Amaranthi didn't upgrade it20:30
WoDaNbut that's not a real issuea atm20:30
WoDaN;-)20:30
Amaranthall the other devs run it in a VM or chroot20:30
Amaranthi run it on my laptop :P20:30
WoDaNheh20:30
* WoDaN too20:30
WoDaNalthough I'm not a dezv ;-)20:30
WoDaNand my X is broken ;-)20:31
AmaranthRight, I said successfully20:31
WoDaNanyway20:31
WoDaNseems this is an interesting chan20:31
WoDaNmore interesting that #ubuntu20:31
AmaranthReinstall hardy, come back in a month20:31
WoDaNless cluelessness ;-)20:31
Amaranthor 320:31
WoDaNno way ;-)20:32
AmaranthDoesn't seem any less clueful to me :P20:32
Amarantherr, more clueful20:32
WoDaNAmaranth: at least you're here, and that's a big difference with #ubuntu :P20:32
* Amaranth gets more caffeine20:32
AmaranthI'm in #ubuntu too20:32
AmaranthAnd I talk there about as much as here20:32
WoDaNheh20:32
Amaranth(almost never)20:32
WoDaNlol20:32
WoDaNoh well20:33
WoDaNI'll hang out some more here and see if my first impression is correct :P20:33
AmaranthIt isn't20:33
AmaranthThere are a handful of people who know what is going on and a million people who don't know anything but want the latest shiny stuff20:33
WoDaNleaving is always an option20:33
WoDaNAmaranth: sure20:33
AmaranthAnd expect the small handful to fix all their problems :P20:34
WoDaNAmaranth: but if you're not part of the in-crowd, but you want to get to know the news, hanging around those helps20:34
WoDaNno worries, I know what I'm doing, and I'm good enough to fix a mess20:34
WoDaNwhat I don't know is the news I should know :P20:35
WoDaN(and the channels I should know :-P)20:35

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