[01:34] Will Intrepid have ext4? [02:13] J-_: you probably have it now [03:32] So I have a question: I have a Linksys router connected to my cable modem, but the IP that the router is providing is blocked by the company. How can I change the IP addresses that are released from the router? [03:41] Jonn: That's not a question about ubuntu intrepid... [03:41] That's not even a question about ubuntu [03:43] I know, but as I do use ubuntu, I thought it was fine to ask anyway :P === NotPresent is now known as Hydrogen === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian [09:40] http://pastebin.com/m6a6ce1c6 [09:41] errors when i try to upgrade === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === fdd-0 is now known as fdd [14:07] ... I'm surprised this channel is here already :-) [14:07] How much divergence has there been so far? [14:37] which is better to intall on my old box, ubuntu or microxp [14:38] Titan: This is a support channel for Intrepid Ibex, probably best to ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:38] Amaranth: Nah, I don't have ext4. I'm running hardy on my lappy. I'm tempted to dualboot Hardy/ Intrepid though. === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [15:39] Can I do a dist upgrade from Hardy to get Intrepid? I know it's pre-alpha. I want to find/ report bugs. [15:39] If you don't know the answer to that question [15:39] then you shouldn't be asking [15:40] and/or thinking about upgrading [15:40] Hehe [15:40] So I can't dualboot, Hardy/ Intrepid? [15:40] Wait until an alpha or beta is released, at this time reporitng bugs isn't really that helpful [15:40] yep [15:43] I'll see if a dist upgrade does anything once I install Hardy in another partition. Not that hard of a question to answer. It's not like I'm going to install a pre-alpha in a production evironment. [15:43] environment. [15:44] anyone know when the syncs will start regularly ? [16:55] * WoDaN looks for some education ;-) [16:56] what's a decent commandline tool to see what packages are available in what dist and what revision they have? [16:56] aptitude doesn't seem to give that info, apt-get is very 'terse' [16:56] so what's left? [16:57] WoDaN: apt-cache madison or rmadison [16:58] Pici: are madison/rmadison apt-cache options or did you just mention 3 solutions? ;-) [16:59] WoDaN: 'apt-cache madison packagename' or 'rmadison packagename' two different commands [17:36] hi [17:36] is there a xorg breakage currently? [17:37] got this problem a few days ago: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/212673/ [17:38] uff wait, wrong paste [17:49] soc: Yes [17:53] http://pastebin.com/m416719db [17:54] here is the right one ... [17:54] Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' [17:57] soc: Yep, this is known [18:06] soc: install version 1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 and pin it for now if you want X again [18:07] mhh [18:07] ok [18:07] how can i do that? [18:07] you can get that version from packages.ubuntu.com if its no longer in cache [18:07] ok [18:07] install hardys version [18:07] assuming it is in the cache: [18:07] soc: its not in cache i just checked [18:08] acourding to my chroot its not in cache [18:08] according even [18:08] dpkg install libxfont_amd64_1.3.1-2.deb [18:08] something like this? [18:08] dpkg -i packagename [18:08] ah sure ... [18:09] if using the .deb from p.u.c [18:09] how do i pin it then? [18:09] soc: are you sure you want to be running intrepid at this point? [18:09] i have some laptops i use for testing [18:09] soc: it is suggested you know enough to fix it if it breaks and knowing dpkg/apt is very highly needed [18:10] i assumed the whole time it was something related to the drivers (radeonhd) and the font thing was just a symptom .. [18:11] anyway pinning sudo -s than echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections [18:11] nope bug in the updated package [18:12] mh ok [18:12] i just checked ... [18:12] 1:1.3.1-2 exactly this version is already installed [18:13] if you have X it is instlaled if you dont its the newest version that is installed [18:13] x is installed [18:13] i thought this version should fix the problem ... [18:16] so the system is fully up-to-date, 1.3.1-2 of libxfont1 is installed, x is installed, but it doesn't work [18:21] mvo_: im re-writing the pinning wiki becase the instructions were wrong or outdated. [18:21] can someone help me? [18:34] soc: You should not being using intrepid right now [20:26] Amaranth: you mean we should again learn where to find those bugreports when we're toying with the dev version :P [20:27] Amaranth: last time I found such bugreports easily with google [20:27] Amaranth: I'm in the same situation; but didn't see any report on this one, at least when googling [20:27] err [20:27] maybe google isn't so fast anymore as it used to be ;-) [20:27] I mean, if you don't know how to fix it yourself you should wait for alpha 4 [20:27] Amaranth: it's not that [20:28] Amaranth: since I know libxfont is the culprit, I should be able to fix it [20:28] Amaranth: but one has to know that first :P [20:28] it looked more like an X bug to me, I don't see X doing any real check as to why it refuses to pick up the font dirs, but at the end it does just declare each one invalid [20:29] all gcc is broken [20:29] err, also [20:29] ;) [20:29] and there is a perl transition happening [20:29] yeah, that I noticed [20:29] what about gcc is broken? [20:30] compiling? [20:30] or lib causing errors+ [20:30] afaik i'm the only person successfully running intrepid right now :P [20:30] the dependancy mess I saw [20:30] i think it's libstdc++, dunno [20:30] i didn't upgrade it [20:30] but that's not a real issuea atm [20:30] ;-) [20:30] all the other devs run it in a VM or chroot [20:30] i run it on my laptop :P [20:30] heh [20:30] * WoDaN too [20:30] although I'm not a dezv ;-) [20:31] and my X is broken ;-) [20:31] Right, I said successfully [20:31] anyway [20:31] seems this is an interesting chan [20:31] more interesting that #ubuntu [20:31] Reinstall hardy, come back in a month [20:31] less cluelessness ;-) [20:31] or 3 [20:32] no way ;-) [20:32] Doesn't seem any less clueful to me :P [20:32] err, more clueful [20:32] Amaranth: at least you're here, and that's a big difference with #ubuntu :P [20:32] * Amaranth gets more caffeine [20:32] I'm in #ubuntu too [20:32] And I talk there about as much as here [20:32] heh [20:32] (almost never) [20:32] lol [20:33] oh well [20:33] I'll hang out some more here and see if my first impression is correct :P [20:33] It isn't [20:33] There are a handful of people who know what is going on and a million people who don't know anything but want the latest shiny stuff [20:33] leaving is always an option [20:33] Amaranth: sure [20:34] And expect the small handful to fix all their problems :P [20:34] Amaranth: but if you're not part of the in-crowd, but you want to get to know the news, hanging around those helps [20:34] no worries, I know what I'm doing, and I'm good enough to fix a mess [20:35] what I don't know is the news I should know :P [20:35] (and the channels I should know :-P)