[00:00] <JanC> yeah, I was planning to do that for debugging, but I don't really want to lose my profile, so I want to find a different solution too
[00:01] <gnomefreak> JanC: you dont have to lose it just mv it and after you test mv it back
[00:01] <gnomefreak> or use -P i think will let you start with new profile
[00:01] <JanC> I know, I already have another profile  ;)
[00:02] <JanC> but it's clean, so I will have to try installing extensions in it
[00:03] <gnomefreak> !info blam hardy
[00:06] <gnomefreak> ok thats filed let me try on Hardy brb
[00:16] <gnomefreak> i think it is xulrunner but i will tell you as soon as i get the right version :)
[00:16] <gnomefreak> seems fta's version fixes crash :)
[00:18] <fta> i'm nearly done with songbird.. at least for a v0.01. just need a desktop file and an icon
[00:19] <fta> of course, i haven't addressed the license issue at all
[00:19] <gnomefreak> if it crashes its xul
[00:20] <gnomefreak> asac: fta the seee through pane is caused by xulrunner in repos
[00:20] <gnomefreak> fta's fixes that as well
[00:23] <fta> so it must be upstream fix ;)
[00:26] <gnomefreak> yep it crashed with repos xul
[00:27] <gnomefreak> and the see through is xul :) filing both bugs blam changing to xulrunner
[00:27] <gnomefreak> bug 227993
[00:32] <gnomefreak> how do i mark a bug for hardy and intrepid?
[00:33] <fta> nominate ?
[00:34] <gnomefreak> fta: want it marked as confirmed?
[00:38] <fta> i'm not using blam
[00:56] <gnomefreak> ok both bugs are up and the visual problems have screenshots with policy xulrunner-1.9 next to them to show what one has issues and what one fixes issue :)
[01:21] <gnomefreak> im going to bed this fucking bickering and crap is really really pissing me off
[09:19] <asac> armin76: where do you gentoo guys have your patches
[09:19] <asac> do you have all your sources in cvs or something?
[09:49] <asac> found
[09:58] <armin76> yeah, going to stole them? :P
[10:00] <asac> thats the idae
[12:19] <asac> jimmy_: how is the xdg patch going?
[12:46] <fta> hi
[12:46] <asac> hello
[12:46] <fta> asac, i've having chrome registration issues with songbird when it is installed globally (obviously, no problem from dist/bin)
[12:47] <fta> 'im
[12:47] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-chrome.png
[12:47] <fta> and a whole bunch of Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm
[12:47] <asac> yeah ... thats what you usually get when there is a chrome.manfest missing iirc
[12:47] <fta> touch /usr/lib/songbird/.autoreg doesn't help
[12:48] <asac> fta: run one time from dist/bin
[12:48] <asac> then compare what file it created in chrome/
[12:48] <asac> sometimes its an empty .manifest that is just missing
[12:49] <asac> hmm XPCOM components sounds more scary
[12:49] <asac> fta: do they have the nsExtensionManager.js in componnets/ ?
[12:50] <fta> not in sb but in xul: /usr/lib/songbird/xulrunner/components/nsExtensionManager.js
[12:50] <asac> do they use application.ini + xulrunner-stub?
[12:50] <fta> yes
[12:51] <asac> any info available which components fail?
[12:51] <asac> where can i get sunbird sources?
[12:52] <asac> do you have them in ppa?
[12:54] <asac> fta: are you sure its using the embedded xulrunner during runtime?
[12:54] <asac> maybe it finds the matching gre.d config and uses our system thing
[12:55] <fta> i will push it soon
[12:55] <fta> yes, it's using the embedded xul
[13:03] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149.orig.tar.gz
[13:03] <fta> clean-up my branch...
[13:05] <asac> getting it
[13:05] <fta> well, i'm not even sure it will build on amd64, let me try 1st
[13:06] <asac> i am on x86 here
[13:06] <asac> but i want to look at source only anyway
[13:06] <asac> for now
[13:07] <fta> ok, no more popups, just by touching dist/extensions/*/chrome.manifest
[13:08] <fta> yes, the Failed to load XPCOM component errors are still there
[13:08] <fta> yet
[13:08] <asac> yeah right
[13:08] <asac> extensions withou tempty chrome.manifest in global location
[13:12] <fta> hm, there's no project on lp, not sure i could create it with the license issue unsorted out
[13:12] <asac> fta: the .jsm file is shipped in components?
[13:12] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7791 2008-05-08 02:25 /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm
[13:13] <asac> currently creating projects is disabled in launchpad (at least it was yesterday)
[13:13] <asac> fta: yeah ... thats not a component ... in xul we ship those in modules/
[13:13] <fta> it's a vanilla copy of dist
[13:14] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10909/
[13:14] <asac> i think there is the bug
[13:14] <asac> it shouldn't be in COMPONENTS at all
[13:14] <asac> just JSMODULES
[13:14] <asac> and then we have to figure if they load it with wrong path somewhere
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/scripts/device/deviceProgress.js:Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/scripts/trackEditor.js:Components.utils.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/xul/device/deviceErrorDialog.xul:    Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> those should be fixed as well then i guess
[13:15] <asac> like ./app/content/bindings/playlistMenuItems.xml:            Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:15] <asac> ./app/content/bindings/playlist.xml:    Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm");
[13:16] <fta> build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/components/sbProperties.jsm
[13:16] <fta> build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm
[13:16] <asac> yeah ... it shouldn't be in components
[13:16] <asac> apparently there was confusion among upstream devs ;) or some refactoring missed some cases
[13:17] <asac> i guess it was done wrong at some points (e.g. in components) and refactoring missed those three cases as there are lots of right references in the tree
[13:17] <fta> but why does it fail then ? the jsm files are in both locations, it shouldn't hurt
[13:18] <asac> fta: it doesn't fail ... it fails to load that file as a component
[13:18] <fta> oh, i see :)
[13:18] <asac> the Components.util.import most likely succeeds
[13:18] <asac> so its just clutter on the console
[13:18] <asac> but not nice anyway ;)
[13:20] <asac> submitting a patch woudl demonstrate good faith ;)
[13:21] <fta> let's see if i can fix that quickly
[13:23] <asac> just patching those three references and the Makefile.in should be enough afaicgt
[13:24] <fta> damn quilt
[13:25] <fta> upstream ship a patches directory
[13:25] <asac> actually they say in the comment that they want to remove it post 0.5
[13:25] <fta> so if i'm in the songbird tree, my toplevel patches are hidden
[13:25] <asac> so they certainly want this fixed
[13:25] <asac> fta: even if you use QUILT_PATCHES env?
[13:26] <fta> well, i had that at the beginning but it's painful to use, i always forget to set the variable
[13:26] <fta> and if i set it, it breaks other branches
[13:26] <asac> yeah i agree
[13:27] <asac> convince upstream to add a quilt series to their dir
[13:27] <asac> not sure if thats better though
[13:27] <fta> it will do no good
[13:27] <asac> well, we could stop using a patchsystem in debian/ then
[13:28] <asac> would require full source bzr though
[13:28] <asac> e.g. only patches in diff.gz ... but outside debian/
[13:28] <fta> it's damn too big
[13:28] <asac> yeah ... or create patches/ dir in the bzr branch top level
[13:28] <asac> bzr --merge should do the right thing i hope
[13:29] <fta> that's what i've done, but if there's a patches dir deeper into the tree, that part of the tree will see that instead of the toplevel one
[13:29] <asac> i think top priority would be to make it work with our system xul :)
[13:29] <asac> even if that means some regressions
[13:29] <asac> that would put some pressure on them to ge tthe patches in a form that is suitable for us/upstream
[13:29] <fta> yep, i just wanted a working base
[13:29] <asac> e.g. if our songbird package has some regressions
[13:30] <asac> like what we do for midbrowser
[13:30] <asac> some features that require xul hackery are not there in the official archive and we ship a patched xulrunner in ppa
[13:31] <asac> that would be an option for songbird imo ... only requirement is that it somewhat starts
[14:02] <fta> http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/vcs-usage/
[14:06] <gnomefreak> asac: our system xulrunner needs to be fided ;)
[14:06] <gnomefreak> fixed
[14:11] <gnomefreak> fta: ppa ubuntu4~mt1 is just a ubuntu change to what we had in repos for hardy?
[14:11] <fta> mt1 is not mine
[14:11] <fta> read the changelog :)
[14:11] <gnomefreak> ok i got the license from mozilla now
[14:14] <fta> asac, now, this fails:
[14:14] <fta>     var manager = Cc["@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1"].
[14:14] <fta>                   getService(Ci.sbILibraryManager);
[14:14] <gnomefreak> asac: any reason we didnt keep the normal name for hardy xulrunner? maybe because of -updates?
[14:15] <fta> eh?
[14:16] <gnomefreak> fta: i remember half way through why he named it that way
[14:16]  * gnomefreak thinks we should have waitng to apply the disk IO until we push new upstream to hardy
[14:17] <asac> gnomefreak: because we still have xulrunner 1.8
[14:17] <fta> what name are you talking about ?
[14:18] <asac> iiuc its xulrunner-1.9 he talks about
[14:18] <gnomefreak> 1.8 shouldnt affect the naming and with ubuntu4~804.0mt really isnt needed
[14:19] <asac> gnomefreak: then i don't know what you are referring to
[14:19] <asac> maybe start over ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> yes only fix that was pushed was excessive disk IO. since that patch is in upstream why didnt we just spin new upstream?
[14:19] <gnomefreak> in 1.9
[14:19] <asac> gnomefreak: because upstream hasn't released it
[14:19] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:19] <asac> we had to backport and apply to last available release
[14:19] <asac> which happens to be 1.9 b5
[14:20] <gnomefreak> thought they did when it closed the bug
[14:20] <asac> no
[14:20] <asac> they committed to cvs
[14:20] <armin76> bumb!
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ok so we wait for them to push new release than we can add it to hardy?
[14:20] <asac> fta: how does it fail? is the component not registered or is the interface missing?
[14:21] <asac> gnomefreak: its in hardy -updates
[14:21] <fta> Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[14:21] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/jsmodules/sbLibraryUtils.jsm
[14:21] <fta> Line: 41
[14:21] <gnomefreak> asac: we need new upstream release in hardy-updates along with intrepid
[14:22] <fta> and
[14:22] <fta> Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[14:22] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/components/sbLibraryServicePaneService.js
[14:22] <fta> Line: 1620
[14:22] <asac> that means that either Cc is not defined or th ecomponent not registered
[14:22] <asac> the latter you can check in compreg.dat
[14:22] <asac> the former should be some import of another .jsm file
[14:22] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. but not before they release ;)
[14:23] <asac> gnomefreak: we have the backport in hardy for now ... same for intrepid
[14:23] <gnomefreak> right
[14:23] <gnomefreak> new upstream fixes some crahses atleast
[14:23] <gnomefreak> i cant say all because the -dbgsym are not up to date with our packages
[14:24] <fta> ppa doesn't do -dbgsym
[14:24] <gnomefreak> fta: the ones in updates dont have right version either
[14:25] <gnomefreak> oh its fixed
[14:26] <gnomefreak> 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 version wouldnt install yesterday on base hardy or base intrepid
[14:26] <fta> -updates has -dbgsym, not -proposed
[14:26] <fta> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/
[14:27] <gnomefreak> fta: i know what repos have it but they were not up to date last night see bug 227998
[14:27] <gnomefreak> i give output when tryingt o install them
[14:27] <gnomefreak> brb need to be on intrepid for this extension
[14:39] <gnomefreak> sorry wrong bug i gave you its but 227993
[14:39] <fta> http://oduinn.com/2008/05/07/we-have-how-many-machines/
[14:40] <gnomefreak> bug 227993 is the bug with the packages
[14:57] <gnomefreak> i just did updates and firefox nor xulrunner were in them why is firefox-3.0 asking for a restart?
[14:58] <asac> gnomefreak: thats good :)
[14:58] <asac> didn't know it worked. if its not intentional then its good luck ;)
[14:59] <asac> ah ... you said none was updated ... not sure then. maybe the restart notification daemon has a bug
[15:00] <gnomefreak> not sure ill get you what was updated
[15:00] <gnomefreak> The following packages will be upgraded: bash findutils fuse-utils gnustep-back-common gnustep-back0.12 gnustep-back0.12-art gnustep-gpbs libaudclient1 libfuse2 libio-compress-base-perl libsane libsvga1 libusb-0.1-4 libxfont1 man-db mawk popularity-contest python-debian rhinote xdg-utils zlib1g zlib1g-dev
[15:01] <gnomefreak> i dont see naything ff related
[15:02] <gnomefreak> downgrading libxfont1 again :(
[15:04] <fta> lock it
[15:07] <gnomefreak> fta: i havent had a chance yet
[15:19] <gnomefreak> its seems ysnaptic's lock doewnt work for terminal
[15:19] <gnomefreak> how do i lock it from terminal?
[15:20] <Wulfie> hey folks - I am trying to use the lightning extension in Thunderbird (hardy heron) I have it installed but when i right click to add a new calendar the option is greyed out.  Any ideas?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: what version?
[15:20] <Wulfie> lightning 0.8
[15:20] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: fro upstream?
[15:20] <gnomefreak> from*
[15:20] <Wulfie> the one from the mozilla site
[15:20] <asac> Wulfie: use our packages
[15:20] <Wulfie> ah
[15:21] <asac> not from mozilla site
[15:21] <Wulfie> where can I find that?
[15:21] <gnomefreak> move your profile and start a new one
[15:21] <asac> we have 0.7 in hardy ... or 0.8 in mozillateam ppa
[15:21] <gnomefreak> oh mozxilla site
[15:21] <asac> sudo apt-get install lightning-extension
[15:21] <gnomefreak> i thought he menat mozilla ppa
[15:21] <Wulfie> I didn't know you could apt-get install extensions
[15:21] <asac> you can ;)
[15:21] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: why not?
[15:21] <asac> try the command above
[15:22] <asac> and remove the other in tools -> addons first
[15:22] <gnomefreak> you can apt-get anything we make
[15:22] <gnomefreak> he needs to repos first
[15:22] <Wulfie> just seems like you would install it through the application rather than through pacakge management
[15:22] <gnomefreak> and remove the profile
[15:22] <asac> Wulfie: yes, in firefox we have a link in app that reads "install ubuntu extensions"
[15:22] <asac> we are doing something similar in intrepid for tbird most likely
[15:27] <Wulfie> whats the apt-repo for mozillateam
[15:27] <asac> Wulfie: look https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive
[15:27] <asac> there are the apt lines
[15:28] <asac> but i think you could be quite happy with 0.7 too.
[15:28] <asac> 0.8 will reach -backports at some point i guess
[15:28] <asac> we just need to bug jdong about it ;)
[15:28] <fta> i've pushed songbird to my ppa, hoping i got the builddeps right at the 1st try ;)
[15:28] <Wulfie> thanks
[15:30] <asac> fta: does songbird have their own translations?
[15:30] <fta> yes
[15:30] <asac> how many languages?
[15:31] <fta> a lot
[15:31] <fta> hundreds ?
[15:32] <asac> i doubt it
[15:34] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang.png
[15:35] <asac> those really translations? not preferred display language?
[15:35] <asac> are the LANGCODE.jar files for each of them?
[15:36] <fta> it's downloaded at runtime when you select a lang
[15:36] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang2.png
[15:36] <asac> oh cool
[15:37] <fta> gnomefreak, here is a deb for intrepid (as the ppa will only do hardy) http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[15:37] <gnomefreak> fta: thanks
[15:38] <fta> please let me know what's wrong with those
[15:38]  * fta leaving for 1h or 2
[15:38] <gnomefreak> will do
[15:39] <asac> ok in leaving mode too now
[15:40] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang3.png
[15:40]  * fta gone
[16:36] <Jazzva> Good thing that linux is not malware target: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html
[16:37] <Jazzva> though, it may be possible to affect us too :/...
[16:42] <Jazzva> asac, you assigned me to bug 226195. Should I prepare the upgrade to the new upstream version?  (since you mentioned that you're reassigning it to me for now)
[18:10] <jimmy_> asac: u got my email on the XDG patch?
[18:11] <gnomefreak> guys last i heard he left for a while
[18:12] <gnomefreak> fta: if you are back from break let me know theres something i need to ask you about songbird
[18:20] <fta> back
[18:29] <fta> gnomefreak, back
[18:29] <gnomefreak> fta: songbird doesnt do mp3?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> fta: is there a --enable-mp3 build option?
[18:30] <fta> it should. it's build to system gstreamer
[18:30] <fta> tu use
[18:30] <fta> to use
[18:30] <fta> i'm tired :P
[18:31] <fta> too much sport
[18:31] <fta> for some reason, ppa build failed. i'll investigate a bit later
[18:31] <gnomefreak> it wont import them nor play them but totem does
[18:32] <fta> even online ?
[18:34] <gnomefreak> what dop you mean online?
[18:34] <fta> oh, it's a regression since i've patched the jsm stuff earlier today
[18:34] <fta> onLoad TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[18:35] <fta> damn
[18:37] <gnomefreak> fta: fail to build problem or mp3 issue?
[18:45] <gnomefreak> fta: as soon as im done with this wiki i will play with songbird+mp3s some more
[18:57] <gnomefreak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto?action=show now ther eis a working wiki for pinning i redid it in full
[19:00] <gnomefreak> fta: i see it was searching that you meant by TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined
[19:01]  * gnomefreak wonders how it is with ipods
[19:51] <gnomefreak> aI hate people. be back in a few
[20:04] <gnomefreak> ok done with bugs for now maybe some wiki work in a bit
[20:25] <Gorzak> hi
[20:25] <Gorzak> how to use java on firefox 3 beta 5 ?
[20:26] <Gorzak> it's not active for me, it's bugging
[20:30] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: 386, 64bit or ppc
[20:31] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: what package did you install and from where?
[20:31] <Gorzak> 386
[20:31] <Gorzak> i had upgrade ubuntu festy to hardy, so i upgrade automatically firefox to 3 beta 5
[20:32] <gnomefreak> asac: im touching up some of the wikis to include newer things or rephase i dont have a bunch of time tonght :)
[20:32] <Gorzak> and i lost the java plugin
[20:32] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: fiesty > Hardy is not supported as it causing major issues
[20:33] <gnomefreak> please remove it using synaptic using complete removal (the java package you isntalled than close synaptic and caall for me again
[20:33] <Gorzak> gutsy to hardy sorry
[20:33] <Gorzak> i don't remember the abc ^^
[20:33] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin  let me know the output next to INstalled
[20:34] <Gorzak> sun-java6-plugin:
[20:34] <Gorzak>   Installé : 6-06-0ubuntu1
[20:34] <Gorzak>   Candidat : 6-06-0ubuntu1
[20:34] <Gorzak>  Table de version :
[20:34] <Gorzak>  *** 6-06-0ubuntu1 0
[20:34] <Gorzak>         500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages
[20:34] <Gorzak>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:34] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: good
[20:34] <gnomefreak> ok lets try easy way
[20:34] <gnomefreak> run locate libflashplugin.so let me know what dir it is in
[20:34] <Gorzak> i follow you
[20:35] <gnomefreak> shit thats not right
[20:35] <Gorzak> it' searching
[20:35] <gnomefreak> give me a minnute
[20:35] <Gorzak> ok
[20:36] <gnomefreak> ok can you open synaptic and completely remove sun-java6-plugin
[20:37] <gnomefreak> if you click on the square you will see completely remove choose that one
[20:38] <Gorzak> i'ts loading
[20:38] <gnomefreak> thats not right :( it says we have 330ish bugs open on ff
[20:38] <gnomefreak> maybe new
[20:39] <Gorzak> it will be fixed to the V.3 fix
[20:39] <Gorzak> it's done
[20:39] <Gorzak> remove the sun-java6-plugin completely
[20:39] <gnomefreak> asac: do you know if kaunchpad.py works for mozilla? i would like to get an accurate number of bugs for ff ff3 xul... tb and so on
[20:40] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok close synaptic
[20:40] <gnomefreak> now run sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:40] <gnomefreak> you will see alot of stuff its normal
[20:41] <Gorzak> done
[20:41] <gnomefreak> good
[20:41] <gnomefreak> now sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[20:41] <Gorzak> done
[20:41] <gnomefreak> restart firefox and let me know if java is still failing than we have to figure out why
[20:41] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: i will be right back
[20:43] <gnomefreak> ok back
[20:43] <Gorzak> ok
[20:43] <gnomefreak> !opera
[20:43] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> tell me when you are back
[20:43] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: after restarting ff does it work?
[20:43] <Gorzak> no
[20:44] <gnomefreak> ok give me a minute im testing this before giving it to you. please go to java.com and you will see test your java or something like that
[20:45] <Gorzak> the jave site say it's good, i get the good java version
[20:45] <gnomefreak> oh hsit
[20:45] <gnomefreak> what site are you having issues with
[20:45] <Gorzak> but on the website where i want use java, it's wrong
[20:45] <Gorzak> that's good : http://www.java.com/fr/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.6.0_06&vendor=Sun+Microsystems+Inc.&os=Linux&os_version=2.6.24-17-386
[20:45] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: it may be site having issues
[20:45] <Gorzak> that's wrong : http://games.asobrain.com/
[20:45] <Gorzak> on my other computer it's good
[20:46] <Gorzak> ubuntu too hardy too
[20:46] <gnomefreak> that page you just cant view the applets?
[20:46] <Gorzak> isn't the website i think
[20:46] <gnomefreak> your on Hardy right?
[20:46] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> no, it's a popup running by a page from this site
[20:46] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: try running i dont see a pop up
[20:46] <gnomefreak> at all
[20:47] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> you need be login
[20:47] <gnomefreak> i see little faces jumping
[20:47] <gnomefreak> is ther ea trial account or a visters account
[20:47] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> it is possible than java running on spécific websites ?
[20:48] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: i think its not set in update-alternatives but im trying this first so i know
[20:48] <Gorzak> i try again
[20:49] <Gorzak> the page is loading, but not completely, and the system manager show me than nothing is running on the process
[20:49] <gnomefreak> asac: im setting up accounts on the sites that we need to test on and im using mozilla-team and a password for us to test i will talk about it when i see you
[20:49] <Gorzak> ok
[20:49] <gnomefreak> if nautlis opens that is
[20:50] <Gorzak> when i force to quit the window, the process show me a big activity by java
[20:50] <gnomefreak> that sounds normal
[20:51] <Gorzak> what about the sound ?
[20:51] <fta> gnomefreak, re-dl the songbird deb from my site, it works for me. i've reverted my last patch. it's not perfect (as it shows some errors) but i'm on it
[20:51] <Gorzak> the page running correctly gnomefreak ?
[20:51] <gnomefreak> fta: ok same link?
[20:52] <fta> yes
[20:52] <gnomefreak> ok thanks
[20:52] <gnomefreak> fta: wanna test java?
[20:52] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok where from home page
[20:52] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> play
[20:53] <gnomefreak> click on use pop ups?
[20:53] <Gorzak> if you want, it's doesn't matter
[20:53] <Gorzak> and click on a link
[20:53] <gnomefreak> what should i be seeing or not seeing?
[20:53] <Gorzak> ranking basic for exemple
[20:54] <Gorzak> and normally, a page charged, with a part for chat, a part of users list
[20:54] <Gorzak> etc
[20:54] <gnomefreak> i have th java applet loading
[20:54] <Gorzak> it's a page for choose a game and gamers
[20:54] <gnomefreak> its light blue looks like im in a game tavle
[20:55] <Gorzak> yes
[20:55] <gnomefreak> your not getting that?
[20:55] <gnomefreak> fta: where does java hang out for ff3?
[20:55] <Gorzak> i get that, but not more than a blue window
[20:55] <gnomefreak> its not in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:55] <gnomefreak> does it ever say wont load or cant load?
[20:56] <Gorzak> say nothing
[20:56] <gnomefreak> im wondering if java is running but you are lagging due to javascript
[20:56]  * gnomefreak saw a few bugs on that in email today
[20:56] <Gorzak> he charge a little, i see on process, then stop, and it's all,
[20:56] <Gorzak> it stop on the blue windows, without list of user etc
[20:57] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: do you have account at anyother java game sites like yahoo or pogo?
[20:57] <Gorzak> no, you know other website with java ?
[20:57] <gnomefreak> your java is installed and working
[20:57] <gnomefreak> yes pogo is most popular
[20:57] <gnomefreak> my g/f swears by it
[20:58] <gnomefreak> ill brb phone
[20:58] <gnomefreak> fta: same version number?
[20:59] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> i have test this page : http://fr1.seafight.bigpoint.com/?aid=367&aip=25421
[20:59] <Gorzak> and i don't see all the elements
[21:00] <gnomefreak> im freezing up give me a minute
[21:00] <gnomefreak> hmmmm it is the same version
[21:01] <gnomefreak> ok you dont see what on that site?
[21:01] <gnomefreak> do you see the little movie screen?
[21:02] <[reed]> asac: ping
[21:02] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> pogo run correctly
[21:02] <gnomefreak> [reed]: good luck
[21:02] <Lucas_Smithen> hey - I am using the lightning plug-in for thunderbird on heron (version 0.8 of lightning) is there a way to set it so when I scroll the mouse it doesn't flip through months/days?
[21:02] <[reed]> lol
[21:02] <Gorzak> i had play on pogo it's good
[21:02] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: if pogo works java works
[21:02] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: from mozilla site?
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> yours
[21:03] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> but not ont all websites
[21:03] <gnomefreak> oh thanks but its not mine right now :)
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> lol
[21:03] <gnomefreak> i did the locales
[21:03] <Lucas_Smithen> well from mozillateam ppa
[21:03] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: no not that i know of other than not hovering or clicking on the table
[21:04] <gnomefreak> i use sunbird as my tbird is temermental
[21:04] <gnomefreak> [reed]: wtf is java :(
[21:04] <[reed]> ??
[21:04] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> what i can do ?
[21:04] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: from what i can tell this may be a xulrunner problem
[21:05] <gnomefreak> im missing some things when i use the versin of xul in repos so i use fta's maintained version
[21:06] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: please file a bug with screen shots of what you see on the first site you gave me and the other site you gave me and i will look into tonight or tomorrow morning but i doubt its java
[21:06] <gnomefreak> fta: will your xulrunner work with Hardy stock firefo 3
[21:07]  * gnomefreak wonders if we dont try this anyway
[21:07] <fta_> yes, except lang packs
[21:07] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: [reed] wopuld know better but i think hes off for day
[21:07] <gnomefreak> fta: thanks ill have him test it
[21:08] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: we are gonna try something ok?
[21:09] <Lucas_Smithen> gnomefreak: thanks
[21:09] <Lucas_Smithen> I'll just stick around
[21:09] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: are you ok with that? ive been running it because it fixes alot of other issues
[21:09] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: thats fine
[21:13] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> am here
[21:13] <Gorzak> i put screenshoot
[21:14] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok will you test xulrunner for me simple install it restart firefox and test those sites again
[21:15] <gnomefreak> its the next upstream release that has this fix in it and fta packaged it
[21:15]  * gnomefreak will be testing songbird while i wait :)
[21:15] <Gorzak> how test xulrunner ?
[21:16] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: just install it restart ff and go to sites
[21:16] <gnomefreak> fta_: chrome reg. failure
[21:16] <gnomefreak> may7be new profile
[21:16] <Jazzva> fta_: Have you had chance to play with firefox lang packs maybe?
[21:16] <gnomefreak> Songbird could not install this item because of a failure in Chrome Registration. Please contact the author about this problem.  fta_
[21:17] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: ^
[21:17] <gnomefreak> and it poped up like 6 times
[21:17] <fta_> gnomefreak, i know, continue, it will work
[21:17] <Jazzva> During the packaging and stuff...
[21:17] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> fr.archive.ubuntu.com is very longer, it maybe put long time
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: the lang pack?ok cool
[21:17] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: just use the wget command it shouldnt take long
[21:18] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: the command to run is   wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14322573/xulrunner-1.9_1.9%7Ecvs20080506t1349%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1%7Efta1%7Ehardy_i386.deb
[21:18] <Jazzva> Just read that Vietnamese lang pack had some malware since february... so I'm wondered if we're affected.
[21:18] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: it will download than let me know when your ready
[21:18] <fta_> Jazzva, iirc, our lang packs come from upstream
[21:18] <Jazzva> I posted a link few hours ago... nobody commented and I think it might be a problem for us too... Here's the link again http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html
[21:19] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: yeah i saw that
[21:19] <fta_> Jazzva, dl it and see by yourself (i said dl, not install ;))
[21:19] <gnomefreak> i never read it because i was really really busy
[21:19] <Jazzva> fta_: Heh :)
[21:19] <gnomefreak> this thing is gonna choke
[21:20] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> done
[21:20] <Gorzak> how i install ?
[21:20] <Jazzva> firefox2 langpacks are  still separated?
[21:20] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: sudo dpkg -i xul and hit tab button to finish the package name
[21:20] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: yes
[21:21] <Gorzak> (sorry if i am very directly in ma language, i am french, and my english isn't very good)
[21:21] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok ill give you full command
[21:21] <Gorzak> no it's good
[21:21] <Gorzak> it's loading
[21:21] <Gorzak> it's done so
[21:21] <gnomefreak> ok cool restart ff and try those sites
[21:21] <Gorzak> i test again
[21:22] <gnomefreak> this adding tracks is gonna take forever
[21:22] <Gorzak> it's longer the running of ff
[21:23] <fta_> gnomefreak, xul alone is not enough, ff3 should match otherwise you're looking for troubles
[21:23] <Gorzak> mattis@mattis-feisty:~$ firefox
[21:23] <Gorzak> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9b5 and 1.9b5.
[21:23] <fta_> here you are :)
[21:23] <gnomefreak> thats right
[21:23] <Jazzva> hmm, looks like we're not shipping vietnamese langpack :).
[21:23] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: you need new ff3 also
[21:23] <gnomefreak> let me get it
[21:24] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14333961/firefox-3.0_3.0%7Ecvs20080506t1400%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1%7Efta1%7Ehardy_i386.deb
[21:24] <gnomefreak> and install it than restart ff and test
[21:25] <gnomefreak> i did yesterday when testing my blam bug i should have rememberd
[21:26] <gnomefreak> fta: songbird scans and imports faster than i would have thought
[21:26] <gnomefreak> just wish it was automated and once i make a playlist it will be :)
[21:27] <gnomefreak> as long as a playlist is text not really the mp3s themselves
[21:28] <gnomefreak> 245 tracks added so far
[21:28] <Gorzak> gnomefreak> i go sleep, see you tomorrow,the page is loading
[21:29] <gnomefreak> Gorzak: ok good night
[21:29] <fta> damn, songbird don't work on amd64
[21:29] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11016/
[21:30] <gnomefreak> is that build failure or running failure?
[21:30] <fta> build
[21:31] <gnomefreak> that cant be good (good thing i have 386) ;)
[21:32] <gnomefreak> does it even build for 64bit from upstream. i mean do they have a 64 bit version?
[21:32] <fta> yes
[21:33] <gnomefreak> cant you build thier versioj with dh_build or using the moz file to build it (cant remember name of file)
[21:34] <fta> eh?
[21:34] <gnomefreak> mozilla shipa  file in thier source as i recall (cant rembmer name off hand but its like a mozilla make file
[21:34] <fta> mozconfig
[21:35] <gnomefreak> if you have 64 bit try and build it that way you know if its upstream or debian dir
[21:35] <gnomefreak> thats it thanks
[21:35] <fta> but here, it's a problem with a 3rd party dep, not with songbird itself
[21:35] <gnomefreak> this is assuming you are running 64bit arch
[21:35] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:36] <gnomefreak> i have music!!!!!!!!
[21:37] <gnomefreak> damn its cchoppy
[21:39] <fta> pulseaudio ?
[21:41] <gnomefreak> songbird
[21:41] <gnomefreak> but it stopped after first somg :(
[21:43] <fta> bug 190754
[21:43] <gnomefreak> its either that or a load on PC when i was lowering ff3
[21:44] <fta> for me, it plays fine, i've listen to it for a few hours yesterday
[21:45] <gnomefreak> i need to figure out 1 why library turned upside down after playing first song 2 why it didnt play 2nd song 3 how to take all somgs aand create a playlist all at once
[21:47] <fta> find . -type f -iname \*.mp3 -print > mageplaylist.m3u
[21:47] <fta> mega
[21:47] <gnomefreak> what does that do?
[21:48] <gnomefreak> and where in songbird or in terminal
[21:48] <fta> in a term, move to where all your mp3 are, then do that
[21:48] <gnomefreak> and you mean megaplaylist
[21:48] <fta> and load that m3u file in songbird
[21:49] <gnomefreak> ok will try
[21:49] <gnomefreak> i guess i should empty all the files first
[21:50]  * asac landed 
[21:50] <gnomefreak> like nickelback dir has all thier songs
[21:50] <gnomefreak> welcome back asac :)
[21:50] <fta> empty all the files ?
[21:51] <gnomefreak> each band has its own files and each cd has its own files insid ethe band folder
[21:51] <gnomefreak> s/files/folder
[21:52] <gnomefreak> example :~/Music/music/metallica/kill ne all/song.mp3
[21:52] <fta> and ?
[21:53] <fta> it will work
[21:53] <gnomefreak> that command has to be run where the mp3s are or anywher einside ~/Music/music
[21:54] <gnomefreak> like run it where metallicas mp3s are than  change to ironmadien and run it there also
[21:54] <fta> doesn't matter much, the content will be relative to the m3u location
[21:55] <gnomefreak> ok trying to load it now to see what it has :)
[21:55] <gnomefreak>  thanks
[21:56] <gnomefreak> it worked great :)
[21:57] <gnomefreak> does this mean i can remove all my mp3s and just keep playlist?
[21:57] <fta> lol, no
[21:57] <gnomefreak> oh
[21:57] <fta> it's not magic
[21:59] <gnomefreak> asac: i cleaned up the bugs wiki and got caught up with songbird
[21:59] <gnomefreak> i have a few im reading to see what can be changed
[22:02] <fta> asac, the jsm patch totally broke songbird, i've reverted it for now. http://pastebin.com/f7b856572
[22:02] <fta> it was too simple
[22:07] <fta> for sure, songbird handles japanese better than rhythmbox
[22:07] <fta> but i don't like this dark look
[22:07] <gnomefreak> its changable
[22:07] <gnomefreak> im sure we can ship with any feather
[22:08] <fta> i know, i've tried a few feathers but none integrates well with my desktop
[22:08] <gnomefreak> ah im gonna trya  few as well
[22:09] <gnomefreak> i have default background on this desktop :( but i have a ton of others i can try
[22:09] <gnomefreak> this is taking a while brb while it loads
[22:10] <fta> took 3 minutes to import my whole collection
[22:15]  * asac reboots
[22:17] <asac> fta: the idea was just to remove the .jsm files from COMPONENTS ... not DYNAMIC_LIB
[22:17] <gnomefreak> fta: is it possible to use thier report a bug in Help for LP or should we add another one (assuming this is a go for intrepid
[22:17] <asac> fta: and not the .js files
[22:17] <fta> oops, did that in a hurry
[22:17] <fta> damn me
[22:17] <asac> just the .jsm files that are otherwise installed as JSMODULES
[22:18] <asac> yep
[22:18] <gnomefreak> cool a ubuntu feather :)
[22:19] <gnomefreak> it matches my desktop since is default one
[22:19] <gnomefreak> the default feather is called rubberducky
[22:21] <fta> screenshot ?
[22:22] <gnomefreak> of ubuntu one?
[22:22] <fta> yes
[22:22] <gnomefreak> ok give me a minure
[22:22] <gnomefreak> minute
[22:22] <fta> i've tried one, it was ugly (too many effects)
[22:23] <gnomefreak> as soon as im done freeze
[22:23] <Jazzva> asac, you assigned me to bug 226195. Should I prepare the upgrade to the new upstream version?  (since you mentioned that you're reassigning it to me for now)
[22:24] <asac> Jazzva: i talked to norsetto about your MOTU thing. he mentioned a few names for which you could take over the merges (as they are inactive) and said that this might be interesting for you as well
[22:25] <asac> Jazzva: if you don't want it just unassign it again i guess
[22:25] <asac> maybe try to figure, why debian doesn't have this package or if they have, why they didn't update it
[22:25] <Jazzva> asac: Ah, ok. Thanks for the help :). I'll work on it during weekend. Just to finish liferea and tracker merges :)
[22:25] <asac> maybe its completely broken? or has licensing issues?
[22:25] <asac> Jazzva: yeah. i told him that you are working on those too
[22:26] <Jazzva> Thanks :)
[22:26] <asac> Jazzva: the other names you could delibrarately work on are:
[22:26] <asac> 13:20 < norsetto> asac: Marco Rodrigues, William Lima, Barry deFreese (he usually doesn't mind)
[22:27] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, as soon as I finish current ones :). I also wanted to ask you, since I saw you were working on liferea, and pochu isn't around atm... We are building liferea against xulrunner, and not webkit, right?
[22:27] <asac> but i think he thought that this mediaplayer would fit into mozillateam work you are already doing ;)
[22:27] <asac> yes
[22:27] <asac> Jazzva: but better ask pochu so he gets to know you ;)
[22:28] <asac> this about getting a few more folks to know you so you can CC them ;)
[22:28] <asac> Jazzva: and asking some questions in addition to the final patch review helps to get you know better ;)
[22:28] <Jazzva> asac: I will bug him later/tomorrow :)... But I would also like to finish as much as I can now, so I can bug him only about the details.
[22:28] <asac> Jazzva: but yes. xulrunner-1.9 for now
[22:28] <asac> sure, not urgent
[22:29] <asac> Jazzva: if debian provides both backends we might wnat to do the same
[22:29] <Jazzva> asac: Just because I noticed some changes in webkit, which were imported by debian... I left debian changes, since we're not in the need of that .c file :).
[22:30] <asac> Jazzva: the idea is to get liferea as close to debian as possible. .e.g. merging, then looking what ubuntu changes to keep
[22:30] <Jazzva> asac: That's what I'm trying to do so far :)
[22:30] <asac> good
[22:30] <asac> Jazzva: are you using merge-o-matic?
[22:30] <asac> e.g. the script?
[22:30] <Jazzva> yep
[22:30] <asac> fine ;)
[22:31] <asac> i guess you are on right track then
[22:31] <gnomefreak> fta: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26378196@N05/2477061830/
[22:31] <Jazzva> :)
[22:31] <gnomefreak> sorry i had to set up account and feed dog
[22:31] <asac> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/firefox-infects.html
[22:32] <Jazzva> asac: We don't ship vietnamese, checked a while ago :)
[22:32] <asac> sure?
[22:32] <gnomefreak> i need an empty pad :(
[22:33] <asac> lets hope its not in the ffox3 locales we ship
[22:33] <Jazzva> Well, it's not in the archives... at least not under -vn code, and apt-cache search doesn't find anything when searching for vietnamese and firefox.
[22:33] <asac> i think we ship one in language-pack-gnome-vi-base
[22:33] <Jazzva> But this is FF2-related...
[22:33] <fta> gnomefreak, that's the one i've tried. i don't like it, it's alien on a gnome desktop, despite the similar colors with the heron
[22:33] <asac> yeah ... is hope enough?
[22:33] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a chance of shipping them separate from g-l-p
[22:33] <gnomefreak> fta: thats true i just installed a bunch of them though :)
[22:34] <asac> yes, thats the idea. i will try to promote them for 8.04.1 ... just have to talk into the kde folks
[22:34] <asac> and convince them that they want those too
[22:35] <Jazzva> asac: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html It says it only affects FF2 langpack. And I don't think we have that one, if we're shipping langpacks separated from gnome-locale for FF2...
[22:35] <gnomefreak> well if kde users are goinna use ff than it is only smart
[22:36] <gnomefreak> we can name the package gnome-firefox-locales or something like that no?
[22:36] <Jazzva> Checked, we don't have neither -vi, nor -vn
[22:36] <gnomefreak> that way its not for kde and still separate
[22:36] <gnomefreak> whats vn?
[22:36] <gnomefreak> vi is vetnaeise(sp)
[22:36] <gnomefreak> i think
[22:37] <Jazzva> Found it as vietnamese code on google... not sure which one is right, so I checked both :)
[22:37] <fta> ssh voyager
[22:37] <fta> oops
[22:37] <gnomefreak> fta: i will try the rest i installed (what color is your desktop?) so if i find one i think goes good i can let you know
[22:38] <fta> gnomefreak, i'm back to default, i like the heron.. for now.
[22:38] <gnomefreak> ok with the bird in the middle?
[22:38] <asac> Jazzva: yeah thanks
[22:38] <fta> gnomefreak, yes
[22:38] <Jazzva> No prob...
[22:38] <gnomefreak> fta: ok cool
[22:38] <gnomefreak> i will coninute more in a bit
[22:40] <Jazzva> asac: We can still check vietnames locale pack, just to be 100% sure...
[22:43] <asac> Jazzva: do we know how the trojan is implemented?
[22:44] <gnomefreak> doesnt prism have a flicker thing?
[22:44] <fta> not in ubuntu but probably elsewhere
[22:44] <Jazzva> asac: Well, I'm not sure. I think I read on mozilla bug 432406 it calls some javascripts from .xhtml files. So, I suppose it could affect Linux too...
[22:44] <fta> but just run prism and fill the form
[22:46] <Jazzva> asac: The main virus is a Win32 program. The infected code just display annoying banner but it can't propagate. A quote from bug report...
[22:46] <gnomefreak> ut oh
[22:46] <gnomefreak> i think i found conflict that i didnt expect
[22:46] <gnomefreak> wordpress: Depends: libjs-prototype but it is not installable Depends: libjs-scriptaculous but it is not installable
[22:47] <gnomefreak> are any of htose libs in a PPA?
[22:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok its wordpress that isnt spun for intrepid
[22:48] <fta> no idea, i don't have that in my apt cache
[22:49] <gnomefreak> fta: the libjs?
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache show libjs-prototype
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ apt-cache show libjs-scriptaculous
[22:50] <fta> fta@ix:~ $
[22:50] <gnomefreak> i dont remember that dialog being there
[23:01] <[reed]> asac: ping
[23:01] <[reed]> Jazzva: it was an unofficial lang pack
[23:02] <[reed]> uploaded to AMO
[23:02] <Jazzva> [reed]: Ok, thanks :).
[23:02] <[reed]> this has been way overblown
[23:10] <fta> asac, does this speak to you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11016/
[23:34] <fta> http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/2008/05/8/#gedit-support
[23:35] <gnomefreak> who has a planet ubuntu blog?
[23:49] <gnomefreak> once i get my planet thing editing im gonna blog about m-e-d team i think
[23:49] <fta> m-e-d team ?
[23:49] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: to request extensions are we using the wiki or would you rather let them request it on ML than we do the wiki
[23:50] <gnomefreak> fta: mozilla-extensions-dev team
[23:50] <fta> k
[23:50] <gnomefreak> plus it gives me a chance to test my edit
[23:51]  * gnomefreak thinks people will be put off from the wiki if they dont know any better
[23:52] <gnomefreak> deleted heads/gnomefreak.png
[23:52] <gnomefreak> that cant be good
[23:52] <gnomefreak> oh ok theres a gnomefreak.png2
[23:53] <gnomefreak> or gnomefreak2.png