[00:00] yeah, I was planning to do that for debugging, but I don't really want to lose my profile, so I want to find a different solution too [00:01] JanC: you dont have to lose it just mv it and after you test mv it back [00:01] or use -P i think will let you start with new profile [00:01] I know, I already have another profile ;) [00:02] but it's clean, so I will have to try installing extensions in it [00:03] !info blam hardy [00:03] blam (source: blam): an RSS aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.4-3ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 248 kB, installed size 1404 kB [00:06] ok thats filed let me try on Hardy brb [00:16] i think it is xulrunner but i will tell you as soon as i get the right version :) [00:16] seems fta's version fixes crash :) [00:18] i'm nearly done with songbird.. at least for a v0.01. just need a desktop file and an icon [00:19] of course, i haven't addressed the license issue at all [00:19] if it crashes its xul [00:20] asac: fta the seee through pane is caused by xulrunner in repos [00:20] fta's fixes that as well [00:23] so it must be upstream fix ;) [00:26] yep it crashed with repos xul [00:27] and the see through is xul :) filing both bugs blam changing to xulrunner [00:27] bug 227993 [00:27] Launchpad bug 227993 in blam "blam version 1.8.4-3ubuntu2 crashes on Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227993 [00:32] how do i mark a bug for hardy and intrepid? [00:33] nominate ? [00:34] fta: want it marked as confirmed? [00:38] i'm not using blam [00:56] ok both bugs are up and the visual problems have screenshots with policy xulrunner-1.9 next to them to show what one has issues and what one fixes issue :) [01:21] im going to bed this fucking bickering and crap is really really pissing me off === asac_ is now known as asac [09:19] armin76: where do you gentoo guys have your patches [09:19] do you have all your sources in cvs or something? [09:49] found [09:58] yeah, going to stole them? :P [10:00] thats the idae [12:19] jimmy_: how is the xdg patch going? [12:46] hi [12:46] hello [12:46] asac, i've having chrome registration issues with songbird when it is installed globally (obviously, no problem from dist/bin) [12:47] 'im [12:47] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-chrome.png [12:47] and a whole bunch of Failed to load XPCOM component: /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm [12:47] yeah ... thats what you usually get when there is a chrome.manfest missing iirc [12:47] touch /usr/lib/songbird/.autoreg doesn't help [12:48] fta: run one time from dist/bin [12:48] then compare what file it created in chrome/ [12:48] sometimes its an empty .manifest that is just missing [12:49] hmm XPCOM components sounds more scary [12:49] fta: do they have the nsExtensionManager.js in componnets/ ? [12:50] not in sb but in xul: /usr/lib/songbird/xulrunner/components/nsExtensionManager.js [12:50] do they use application.ini + xulrunner-stub? [12:50] yes [12:51] any info available which components fail? [12:51] where can i get sunbird sources? [12:52] do you have them in ppa? [12:54] fta: are you sure its using the embedded xulrunner during runtime? [12:54] maybe it finds the matching gre.d config and uses our system thing [12:55] i will push it soon [12:55] yes, it's using the embedded xul [13:03] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149.orig.tar.gz [13:03] clean-up my branch... [13:05] getting it [13:05] well, i'm not even sure it will build on amd64, let me try 1st [13:06] i am on x86 here [13:06] but i want to look at source only anyway [13:06] for now [13:07] ok, no more popups, just by touching dist/extensions/*/chrome.manifest [13:08] yes, the Failed to load XPCOM component errors are still there [13:08] yet [13:08] yeah right [13:08] extensions withou tempty chrome.manifest in global location [13:12] hm, there's no project on lp, not sure i could create it with the license issue unsorted out [13:12] fta: the .jsm file is shipped in components? [13:12] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7791 2008-05-08 02:25 /usr/lib/songbird/components/sbProperties.jsm [13:13] currently creating projects is disabled in launchpad (at least it was yesterday) [13:13] fta: yeah ... thats not a component ... in xul we ship those in modules/ [13:13] it's a vanilla copy of dist [13:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10909/ [13:14] i think there is the bug [13:14] it shouldn't be in COMPONENTS at all [13:14] just JSMODULES [13:14] and then we have to figure if they load it with wrong path somewhere [13:15] ./app/content/scripts/device/deviceProgress.js:Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm"); [13:15] ./app/content/scripts/trackEditor.js:Components.utils.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm"); [13:15] ./app/content/xul/device/deviceErrorDialog.xul: Cu.import("resource://app/components/sbProperties.jsm"); [13:15] those should be fixed as well then i guess [13:15] like ./app/content/bindings/playlistMenuItems.xml: Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm"); [13:15] ./app/content/bindings/playlist.xml: Components.utils.import("resource://app/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm"); [13:16] build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/components/sbProperties.jsm [13:16] build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/jsmodules/sbProperties.jsm [13:16] yeah ... it shouldn't be in components [13:16] apparently there was confusion among upstream devs ;) or some refactoring missed some cases [13:17] i guess it was done wrong at some points (e.g. in components) and refactoring missed those three cases as there are lots of right references in the tree [13:17] but why does it fail then ? the jsm files are in both locations, it shouldn't hurt [13:18] fta: it doesn't fail ... it fails to load that file as a component [13:18] oh, i see :) [13:18] the Components.util.import most likely succeeds [13:18] so its just clutter on the console [13:18] but not nice anyway ;) [13:20] submitting a patch woudl demonstrate good faith ;) [13:21] let's see if i can fix that quickly [13:23] just patching those three references and the Makefile.in should be enough afaicgt [13:24] damn quilt [13:25] upstream ship a patches directory [13:25] actually they say in the comment that they want to remove it post 0.5 [13:25] so if i'm in the songbird tree, my toplevel patches are hidden [13:25] so they certainly want this fixed [13:25] fta: even if you use QUILT_PATCHES env? [13:26] well, i had that at the beginning but it's painful to use, i always forget to set the variable [13:26] and if i set it, it breaks other branches [13:26] yeah i agree [13:27] convince upstream to add a quilt series to their dir [13:27] not sure if thats better though [13:27] it will do no good [13:27] well, we could stop using a patchsystem in debian/ then [13:28] would require full source bzr though [13:28] e.g. only patches in diff.gz ... but outside debian/ [13:28] it's damn too big [13:28] yeah ... or create patches/ dir in the bzr branch top level [13:28] bzr --merge should do the right thing i hope [13:29] that's what i've done, but if there's a patches dir deeper into the tree, that part of the tree will see that instead of the toplevel one [13:29] i think top priority would be to make it work with our system xul :) [13:29] even if that means some regressions [13:29] that would put some pressure on them to ge tthe patches in a form that is suitable for us/upstream [13:29] yep, i just wanted a working base [13:29] e.g. if our songbird package has some regressions [13:30] like what we do for midbrowser [13:30] some features that require xul hackery are not there in the official archive and we ship a patched xulrunner in ppa [13:31] that would be an option for songbird imo ... only requirement is that it somewhat starts [14:02] http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/vcs-usage/ [14:06] asac: our system xulrunner needs to be fided ;) [14:06] fixed [14:11] fta: ppa ubuntu4~mt1 is just a ubuntu change to what we had in repos for hardy? [14:11] mt1 is not mine [14:11] read the changelog :) [14:11] ok i got the license from mozilla now [14:14] asac, now, this fails: [14:14] var manager = Cc["@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1"]. [14:14] getService(Ci.sbILibraryManager); [14:14] asac: any reason we didnt keep the normal name for hardy xulrunner? maybe because of -updates? [14:15] eh? [14:16] fta: i remember half way through why he named it that way [14:16] * gnomefreak thinks we should have waitng to apply the disk IO until we push new upstream to hardy [14:17] gnomefreak: because we still have xulrunner 1.8 [14:17] what name are you talking about ? [14:18] iiuc its xulrunner-1.9 he talks about [14:18] 1.8 shouldnt affect the naming and with ubuntu4~804.0mt really isnt needed [14:19] gnomefreak: then i don't know what you are referring to [14:19] maybe start over ;) [14:19] yes only fix that was pushed was excessive disk IO. since that patch is in upstream why didnt we just spin new upstream? [14:19] in 1.9 [14:19] gnomefreak: because upstream hasn't released it [14:19] oh [14:19] we had to backport and apply to last available release [14:19] which happens to be 1.9 b5 [14:20] thought they did when it closed the bug [14:20] no [14:20] they committed to cvs [14:20] bumb! [14:20] ok so we wait for them to push new release than we can add it to hardy? [14:20] fta: how does it fail? is the component not registered or is the interface missing? [14:21] gnomefreak: its in hardy -updates [14:21] Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined [14:21] Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/jsmodules/sbLibraryUtils.jsm [14:21] Line: 41 [14:21] asac: we need new upstream release in hardy-updates along with intrepid [14:22] and [14:22] Error: Cc['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined [14:22] Source File: file:///usr/lib/songbird/components/sbLibraryServicePaneService.js [14:22] Line: 1620 [14:22] that means that either Cc is not defined or th ecomponent not registered [14:22] the latter you can check in compreg.dat [14:22] the former should be some import of another .jsm file [14:22] gnomefreak: yes. but not before they release ;) [14:23] gnomefreak: we have the backport in hardy for now ... same for intrepid [14:23] right [14:23] new upstream fixes some crahses atleast [14:23] i cant say all because the -dbgsym are not up to date with our packages [14:24] ppa doesn't do -dbgsym [14:24] fta: the ones in updates dont have right version either [14:25] oh its fixed [14:26] 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 version wouldnt install yesterday on base hardy or base intrepid [14:26] -updates has -dbgsym, not -proposed [14:26] http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/ [14:27] fta: i know what repos have it but they were not up to date last night see bug 227998 [14:27] Launchpad bug 227998 in xulrunner-1.9 "Xulrunner-1.9 in Hardy and Intrepid cause Blam to have see through bottom panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227998 [14:27] i give output when tryingt o install them [14:27] brb need to be on intrepid for this extension [14:39] sorry wrong bug i gave you its but 227993 [14:39] http://oduinn.com/2008/05/07/we-have-how-many-machines/ [14:40] bug 227993 is the bug with the packages [14:40] Launchpad bug 227993 in xulrunner-1.9 "blam version 1.8.4-3ubuntu2 crashes on Intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227993 [14:57] i just did updates and firefox nor xulrunner were in them why is firefox-3.0 asking for a restart? [14:58] gnomefreak: thats good :) [14:58] didn't know it worked. if its not intentional then its good luck ;) [14:59] ah ... you said none was updated ... not sure then. maybe the restart notification daemon has a bug [15:00] not sure ill get you what was updated [15:00] The following packages will be upgraded: bash findutils fuse-utils gnustep-back-common gnustep-back0.12 gnustep-back0.12-art gnustep-gpbs libaudclient1 libfuse2 libio-compress-base-perl libsane libsvga1 libusb-0.1-4 libxfont1 man-db mawk popularity-contest python-debian rhinote xdg-utils zlib1g zlib1g-dev [15:01] i dont see naything ff related [15:02] downgrading libxfont1 again :( [15:04] lock it [15:07] fta: i havent had a chance yet [15:19] its seems ysnaptic's lock doewnt work for terminal [15:19] how do i lock it from terminal? [15:20] hey folks - I am trying to use the lightning extension in Thunderbird (hardy heron) I have it installed but when i right click to add a new calendar the option is greyed out. Any ideas? [15:20] Wulfie: what version? [15:20] lightning 0.8 [15:20] Wulfie: fro upstream? [15:20] from* [15:20] the one from the mozilla site [15:20] Wulfie: use our packages [15:20] ah [15:21] not from mozilla site [15:21] where can I find that? [15:21] move your profile and start a new one [15:21] we have 0.7 in hardy ... or 0.8 in mozillateam ppa [15:21] oh mozxilla site [15:21] sudo apt-get install lightning-extension [15:21] i thought he menat mozilla ppa [15:21] I didn't know you could apt-get install extensions [15:21] you can ;) [15:21] Wulfie: why not? [15:21] try the command above [15:22] and remove the other in tools -> addons first [15:22] you can apt-get anything we make [15:22] he needs to repos first [15:22] just seems like you would install it through the application rather than through pacakge management [15:22] and remove the profile [15:22] Wulfie: yes, in firefox we have a link in app that reads "install ubuntu extensions" [15:22] we are doing something similar in intrepid for tbird most likely [15:27] whats the apt-repo for mozillateam [15:27] Wulfie: look https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [15:27] there are the apt lines [15:28] but i think you could be quite happy with 0.7 too. [15:28] 0.8 will reach -backports at some point i guess [15:28] we just need to bug jdong about it ;) [15:28] i've pushed songbird to my ppa, hoping i got the builddeps right at the 1st try ;) [15:28] thanks [15:30] fta: does songbird have their own translations? [15:30] yes [15:30] how many languages? [15:31] a lot [15:31] hundreds ? [15:32] i doubt it [15:34] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang.png [15:35] those really translations? not preferred display language? [15:35] are the LANGCODE.jar files for each of them? [15:36] it's downloaded at runtime when you select a lang [15:36] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang2.png [15:36] oh cool [15:37] gnomefreak, here is a deb for intrepid (as the ppa will only do hardy) http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/songbird_0.6~svn20080503r9149-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [15:37] fta: thanks [15:38] please let me know what's wrong with those [15:38] * fta leaving for 1h or 2 [15:38] will do [15:39] ok in leaving mode too now [15:40] asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/sb-lang3.png [15:40] * fta gone [16:36] Good thing that linux is not malware target: http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2008/050708-mozilla-firefox-plugin-shipped-with.html [16:37] though, it may be possible to affect us too :/... [16:42] asac, you assigned me to bug 226195. Should I prepare the upgrade to the new upstream version? (since you mentioned that you're reassigning it to me for now) [16:42] Launchpad bug 226195 in gnome-mplayer "Please update gnome-mplayer/gecko-mediaplayer" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226195 [18:10] asac: u got my email on the XDG patch? [18:11] guys last i heard he left for a while [18:12] fta: if you are back from break let me know theres something i need to ask you about songbird [18:20] back [18:29] gnomefreak, back [18:29] fta: songbird doesnt do mp3? [18:29] fta: is there a --enable-mp3 build option? [18:30] it should. it's build to system gstreamer [18:30] tu use [18:30] to use [18:30] i'm tired :P [18:31] too much sport [18:31] for some reason, ppa build failed. i'll investigate a bit later [18:31] it wont import them nor play them but totem does [18:32] even online ? [18:34] what dop you mean online? [18:34] oh, it's a regression since i've patched the jsm stuff earlier today [18:34] onLoad TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined [18:35] damn [18:37] fta: fail to build problem or mp3 issue? [18:45] fta: as soon as im done with this wiki i will play with songbird+mp3s some more [18:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto?action=show now ther eis a working wiki for pinning i redid it in full [19:00] fta: i see it was searching that you meant by TypeError: Components.classes['@songbirdnest.com/Songbird/library/Manager;1'] is undefined [19:01] * gnomefreak wonders how it is with ipods === jt1 is now known as jtv [19:51] aI hate people. be back in a few [20:04] ok done with bugs for now maybe some wiki work in a bit [20:25] hi [20:25] how to use java on firefox 3 beta 5 ? [20:26] it's not active for me, it's bugging [20:30] Gorzak: 386, 64bit or ppc [20:31] Gorzak: what package did you install and from where? [20:31] 386 [20:31] i had upgrade ubuntu festy to hardy, so i upgrade automatically firefox to 3 beta 5 [20:32] asac: im touching up some of the wikis to include newer things or rephase i dont have a bunch of time tonght :) [20:32] and i lost the java plugin [20:32] Gorzak: fiesty > Hardy is not supported as it causing major issues [20:33] please remove it using synaptic using complete removal (the java package you isntalled than close synaptic and caall for me again [20:33] gutsy to hardy sorry [20:33] i don't remember the abc ^^ [20:33] Gorzak: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin let me know the output next to INstalled [20:34] sun-java6-plugin: [20:34] Installé : 6-06-0ubuntu1 [20:34] Candidat : 6-06-0ubuntu1 [20:34] Table de version : [20:34] *** 6-06-0ubuntu1 0 [20:34] 500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages [20:34] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [20:34] Gorzak: good [20:34] ok lets try easy way [20:34] run locate libflashplugin.so let me know what dir it is in [20:34] i follow you [20:35] shit thats not right [20:35] it' searching [20:35] give me a minnute [20:35] ok [20:36] ok can you open synaptic and completely remove sun-java6-plugin [20:37] if you click on the square you will see completely remove choose that one [20:38] i'ts loading [20:38] thats not right :( it says we have 330ish bugs open on ff [20:38] maybe new [20:39] it will be fixed to the V.3 fix [20:39] it's done [20:39] remove the sun-java6-plugin completely [20:39] asac: do you know if kaunchpad.py works for mozilla? i would like to get an accurate number of bugs for ff ff3 xul... tb and so on [20:40] Gorzak: ok close synaptic [20:40] now run sudo apt-get autoclean [20:40] you will see alot of stuff its normal [20:41] done [20:41] good [20:41] now sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin [20:41] done [20:41] restart firefox and let me know if java is still failing than we have to figure out why [20:41] Gorzak: i will be right back [20:43] ok back [20:43] ok [20:43] !opera [20:43] opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [20:43] gnomefreak> tell me when you are back [20:43] Gorzak: after restarting ff does it work? [20:43] no [20:44] ok give me a minute im testing this before giving it to you. please go to java.com and you will see test your java or something like that [20:45] the jave site say it's good, i get the good java version [20:45] oh hsit [20:45] what site are you having issues with [20:45] but on the website where i want use java, it's wrong [20:45] that's good : http://www.java.com/fr/download/installed.jsp?jre_version=1.6.0_06&vendor=Sun+Microsystems+Inc.&os=Linux&os_version=2.6.24-17-386 [20:45] Gorzak: it may be site having issues [20:45] that's wrong : http://games.asobrain.com/ [20:45] on my other computer it's good [20:46] ubuntu too hardy too [20:46] that page you just cant view the applets? [20:46] isn't the website i think [20:46] your on Hardy right? [20:46] gnomefreak> no, it's a popup running by a page from this site [20:46] Gorzak: try running i dont see a pop up [20:46] at all [20:47] gnomefreak> you need be login [20:47] i see little faces jumping [20:47] is ther ea trial account or a visters account [20:47] gnomefreak> it is possible than java running on spécific websites ? [20:48] Gorzak: i think its not set in update-alternatives but im trying this first so i know [20:48] i try again [20:49] the page is loading, but not completely, and the system manager show me than nothing is running on the process [20:49] asac: im setting up accounts on the sites that we need to test on and im using mozilla-team and a password for us to test i will talk about it when i see you [20:49] ok [20:49] if nautlis opens that is [20:50] when i force to quit the window, the process show me a big activity by java [20:50] that sounds normal [20:51] what about the sound ? [20:51] gnomefreak, re-dl the songbird deb from my site, it works for me. i've reverted my last patch. it's not perfect (as it shows some errors) but i'm on it [20:51] the page running correctly gnomefreak ? [20:51] fta: ok same link? [20:52] yes [20:52] ok thanks [20:52] fta: wanna test java? [20:52] Gorzak: ok where from home page [20:52] gnomefreak> play [20:53] click on use pop ups? [20:53] if you want, it's doesn't matter [20:53] and click on a link [20:53] what should i be seeing or not seeing? [20:53] ranking basic for exemple [20:54] and normally, a page charged, with a part for chat, a part of users list [20:54] etc [20:54] i have th java applet loading [20:54] it's a page for choose a game and gamers [20:54] its light blue looks like im in a game tavle [20:55] yes [20:55] your not getting that? [20:55] fta: where does java hang out for ff3? [20:55] i get that, but not more than a blue window [20:55] its not in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins === dholbert is now known as dholbert_afk [20:55] does it ever say wont load or cant load? [20:56] say nothing [20:56] im wondering if java is running but you are lagging due to javascript [20:56] * gnomefreak saw a few bugs on that in email today [20:56] he charge a little, i see on process, then stop, and it's all, [20:56] it stop on the blue windows, without list of user etc [20:57] Gorzak: do you have account at anyother java game sites like yahoo or pogo? [20:57] no, you know other website with java ? [20:57] your java is installed and working [20:57] yes pogo is most popular [20:57] my g/f swears by it [20:58] ill brb phone [20:58] fta: same version number? [20:59] gnomefreak> i have test this page : http://fr1.seafight.bigpoint.com/?aid=367&aip=25421 [20:59] and i don't see all the elements [21:00]