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_ZeuZ_Dunno, Havent ever have trouble with them... either way, what errors do they drop? dependencie trouble?00:07
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* flyback goodnight all00:27
* flyback loves the smell of bleach and hydrocloric acid as he nukes all traces of mold in the house. He also understands of those 2 mix = darwin awards02:42
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saltedlighthi. anyone know how to start verlihub at boot time and can give some advices on how to do it?04:15
viphello04:15
vipI have installed ubuntu server and i am getting half the speeds on file copy that i get on windows.04:17
vipanyone know about some setting that could be causing this problem ?04:18
ScottKYou're more likely to get a good answer to a question like that during the US/European work day.04:19
vipok thanks04:24
nomidnesHi all, I am having problems with installing the postgresql-8.3 package.. I get errors like: Error: initdb failed. and Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with04:44
nomidnesit is trying to use configs from: /etc/postgresql/8.3/main04:44
nomidneswhich does not exist...04:44
nomidnesis that not meant to get created at install time?04:44
nomidnesversions: postgresql-8.3_8.3.1-1_amd64.deb postgresql-common_87_all.deb04:45
nomidnesas far as I can tell the two important directories (/etc/postgresql/8.3/main and /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main) are not created or populated04:47
AtomicSparknomidnes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL04:47
AtomicSparkthat's as much help you're probably going to get right now since i've never installed it and everyone else is away at nights/weekends :P04:47
lucentnomidnes: you're probably missing an important package04:48
nomidnesaah right04:48
lucentdid you do "apt-get install postgresql" ?04:48
nomidnesthats what I thoughts..04:48
nomidnes*thought04:48
AtomicSpark^sudo04:48
uvirtbotAtomicSpark: Error: "sudo" is not a valid command.04:48
AtomicSpark^ sude04:49
uvirtbotAtomicSpark: Error: "sude" is not a valid command.04:49
nomidnes# apt-get install postgresql-8.304:49
nomidnesrunnig in sudo -s04:49
nomidnestried in synaptic at the start...04:49
nomidneswhat time is a good time to come back?04:49
ScottKnomidnes: US/European work day tends to be best.04:50
lucentnomidnes: unrelated, but you should always try to run "sudo su"  or "sudo -sH"04:50
lucentnever "sudo -s"04:50
nomidnesyeah I use su otherwise04:51
lucentthe difference is in the environment04:51
ScottKlucent: Actually sudo su can sometimes end you up with odd environment settings.  What you'd really want is sudo -i04:51
nomidnesok I will swap to that in the future...04:52
lucentScottK: interesting04:52
nomidnesScottK: what time is it currently?04:53
ScottKWhere?04:53
ScottK0353 UTC is what I have.04:53
hadssudo -s is alight if that's what you are intending04:53
nomidnesits 4pm here.. just want to get an approx time for me to come back in...04:53
hadss/alight/alright/04:53
lucentScottK: sudo -i messes with PWD though04:53
lucentI don't like that04:53
hadslucent: What do see the problem as with sudo -s?04:57
lucenthads: I use $HOME a lot04:57
lucentit bothers me when I'm root UID but my $HOME is still that of the previous user id04:58
lucentjust doesn't seem natural04:58
lucentmuch prefer sudo -sH04:58
hadsFair enough. I can see that being useful for you but not really a case to say "never use sudo -s" :)04:59
nomidneslucent: how does that work?, sudo -sH results in sudo: please use single character options04:59
ScottKnomidnes: Things should be more alive starting in about 4 or 5 hours and then stay that way for about 10 to 12 hours.04:59
lucentwell -s -H04:59
lucentI mischatted04:59
nomidnesScottk thanks04:59
nomidneslucent: don't worry I should have realised to try that05:00
lucenthads: -s -H prevents problems like new users saying "Why can't I access this file, it's in my home dir?"05:00
hadsnomidnes: 4pm? You in NZ?05:00
lucentum... because it is root uid owned when you did something under sudo -s ?05:00
nomidnesif I make a mess I just chown -R it05:00
lucent:P05:00
nomidneshade: yeah05:00
nomidnes*hads: yeah05:01
AtomicSparki'm confused. why not just use sudo? no options?05:01
hadslucent: I can see what you're saying but if you argue that then you should argue to never use "sudo command" either.05:02
hadsAtomicSpark: No reason at all. Just discussing different ways to get a root shell.05:03
AtomicSparkhads, ah i see. i'm not even sure of the other commands. i'm reading up on it now.05:03
lucenthads: don't use "sudo -s"05:03
lucentthat's what I think.05:03
lucentI've provided a valid reason not to use it05:04
hadsOK, I disagree :)05:04
lucentI should say, I have provided a valid reason not to use it in the general case05:04
hadslucent: Yes, but that same reason would apply to "sudo command". Do you recommend not to use that too?05:04
lucentquit trolling me05:04
nomidnesthanks all for the help05:05
nomidnesI will be around later....05:05
lucentnomidnes: best wishes, mate.  Once you get pgsql up and humping, there's a #postgresql channel on this IRC network which is quite awesome05:06
AtomicSparkah. -i is environment.05:06
lucenthighly recommend it for pgsql specific questions05:06
hadslucent: I was actually trying to have a rational conversation but that's fine.05:06
nomidneslucent: yeah I have used that in the past.. Its just this machine that I am having issues on... Its my only 8.04 server one though.05:07
hadsnomidnes: I've got postgresql on a couple of Hardy boxes here, didn't have an issue.05:07
nomidneshads: amd64?05:07
hadsAll x8605:08
nomidnesI might have to make a chroot env or a vm of the x8605:08
nomidnesjust copy the files I need05:08
lucentnomidnes: answers one of my quetions "What arch?" , the other question is was this a fresh install from Server, from Alternate, network boot, or an upgrade?05:08
nomidneslucent: sorry I missed that.. arch is amd64 its a fresh server install05:09
nomidnesooh. its from rc105:09
nomidneshmmm05:09
AtomicSparknomidnes, rc1? you mean the beta?05:09
nomidneswonder if there are any compilcations..05:10
hadsnomidnes: There were changes to 8.3 late in the release cycle.05:10
hadsDon't know if they were related or not but I do recall changes.05:10
nomidnesI only just tried to install it. portgres* was not installed05:10
hadsOK05:10
nomidnesI will try the same thing on a clean install05:10
lucentnomidnes: is a fresh install out of the question?  The RC releases specifically state they are not compatible with the final release05:11
nomidnesI think that a fresh install it probably the thing that I am going to hav eto do...05:11
nomidnesIt is strange that this is the only issue that I have had05:12
lucentsounds like a plan, I assure you it should work then05:12
lucentif not, get back to me I'd like to know more about any potential problem05:12
* lucent points to his shiny amd64 machine05:12
lucenthave been holding out to mess with my OS on amd64 ;)05:13
nomidnesI have an AD PDC running on it, LDAP with replication and a number fo other servers..05:13
nomidnesaah, yeah I have been using amd64 for quite some time.. early on there were some painful teething issues05:13
nomidnesnow its reasonably easy05:14
nomidnesAtomicSpark: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc05:15
AtomicSparki only use 64 bit for servers. can't be assed to mess with flash.05:15
nomidnesflash?05:16
AtomicSparkflash doesn't work in 64 bit firefox. gotta do the work around.05:16
nomidnesaah right, I have had less issues with it recently05:16
nomidnesanyway I will stay i channel and disconnect from this screen05:17
nomidneslater all05:17
lucentAtomicSpark: 32-bit chroot is what I do05:23
lucentAtomicSpark: it does suck down quite a lot of disk space to do it05:23
lucentoverall it's user friendly05:23
lucentI even have my little icon in GNOME be a launcher, and the script killall -9's the offending browser that has crashed (no doubt! I mean, flash crashes all the time)05:24
AtomicSparki haven't had crashing problems since i did a fresh install. just random firefox freezing. think thats a 3.0 related bug.05:24
lucentAtomicSpark: firefox without flash has not crashed once on me05:25
lucentwith flash, it freezes and crashes regularly05:25
AtomicSparkhmm05:29
hadsAtomicSpark: FF 3b crashes here too05:32
AtomicSparkdid you two do fresh installs? i never get the flash crash thing05:34
Centaur5with every other flash video or application that is opened it crashes05:34
lucentAtomicSpark: Adobe Flash05:37
lucentswfdec and gnash were okay when they worked05:38
hadsAtomicSpark: Not flash crashing, FF 3b crashes occasionally.05:39
AtomicSparkare you talking about on 64 bit?05:39
hadsx8605:39
AtomicSparkweird. i never have problems anymore.05:39
AtomicSparki did fresh install 8.04 x86 w/ adobe05:39
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osmosiswhat the heck is this,  w83793 0-002f: set bank to 0 failed, fall back to bank 2, read reg 0x21 error05:49
AtomicSparkthey took your moneys05:51
LiraNunaanyone knows of a PHP software that will manage events? Kind of like meetup.com, but personal06:16
LiraNunapreferably opensource, I'd love to keep my server proprietary-free06:17
RoAkSoAxanyone experienced with LVS clusters?06:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #228095 in php5 (main) "[Sync] Please Sync php 5.2.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22809508:10
sgroverIs it possible to set up access to an NFS share with key authentication - something like SSH?08:28
lucentI've never heard of that before, sgrover08:30
sgroverI'm looking to find a way to do a secure connection to a local file server from a roadwarrior laptop without having to setup VPNs or any extra steps for the end user...08:30
lucentwhy NFS?08:30
sgroverNFS need not be the tool, but when I think file serving over a distributed network, I think NFS...08:30
lucentsshfs is more popular for that sort of thing08:31
lucentVPN is not difficult though08:31
sgroverhmmm... thanks... part of my issue is finding the right words to describe what I want.. :)08:32
lucentsetting up an IPCop box with the zerina OpenVPN scripts takes an hour maybe08:32
lucentit's all web interface and easy to generate/setup VPN connections08:32
sgroverIf VPN can be set up without any interaction from the user, I'd be for that.  (Already have IPCop setup with Zerina/OpenVPN)08:32
lucentyou're going to have to interact with the user for secure access08:33
lucentwhy bother them with some odd filesystem? :)08:33
sgroverguess it can be scripted - check if an Internet connection is possible, if run the openvpn command....08:33
lucentum08:33
lucentwhat OS is your target for the roadwarrior?08:34
sorenAre the guests Ubuntu machines, too?08:34
sgroverlucent: what I'm after is a common file store so that I would have the same files available, regardless of where I am... and other users as well.08:34
lucentyeah VPN and SAMBA is the way to do this, if you ask me08:34
sgroverAt the moment, I'm the guinea pig.  So Ubuntu on the server, local workstation, and laptop.08:34
lucentUbuntu Desktop has "nm-applet" network manager08:35
lucentthere's an add-on for VPN support08:35
lucentit works beautifully08:35
sgroverwill do an auto connect when possible?08:35
lucentno08:35
lucentCisco's VPN client doesn't do that08:35
lucentI don't know any free VPN client that does auto-sensing or auto-anything really08:36
lucentfree-as-in beer when I say free08:36
sgroverunderstood.. :)08:36
lucentno mucking about on the commandline though and it integrates with the Gnome key store08:36
sgroverThe idea isn't fully formed yet, so sorry if I'm not doing a great job of describing this...08:36
sgroverlucent: I'm ok with Bash scripting if/when needed.08:37
krautmoin08:37
lucentclick, blah blah network connection (wireless in my case), click again to connnect to VPN,  choose it,  and done08:37
sgroverand would be setting up all the workstations involved.08:37
lucentwhat this does not allow for is multiple VPN connections08:38
sgroveronly does one at a time?08:38
lucentyeah, at least that's how it operated when I used it a month ago08:38
lucenton Gutsy08:38
lucentI'm not making this up, I had a client that needed one thing or the other to get QuickBooks software working remotely08:39
lucentmy boss told me to use a VPN08:39
lucentand so I did.08:39
lucentit epic failed for QuickBooks (which fetches an entire 60MB file on open() ), but all the technology worked great and was not weird08:40
sgroverlucent: I've worked with VPN, and know what you are getting at.  I'm picturing long term when I need to deal with users who may not have any clue what VPN is....08:40
sgroverNFS would be perfect - if it didn't need to be locked down to particular IPs.  If I could apply keys like an SSH key, then it's a done deal...08:41
lucentuh NFSv4 hrm with kerberos08:42
lucentI don't know anything about that08:42
sgroverhmm... I'm not favmiliar with Kerberos... other than knowing what it is...08:43
pschulz01Greetings.. is there an easy way to find packages that supply particular perl modules?09:04
juliuxpschulz01, apt-cache search ;)09:04
pschulz01eg. the latest version of bugzilla (3.0.4) requires PatchReader.09:05
pschulz01juliux: Yep.. been doing a lot of that.09:05
pschulz01Google google google09:06
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T-Hawkhey guys... i got a problem getting php5-mcrypt to work... i have php5-mcrypt installed via apt, and reloaded my apache server, but according to phpinfo (); there's no mcrypt extension, and the functions don't work09:32
T-Hawkanybody?09:35
lucentodd09:43
* Kamping_Kaiser wonders if there was an a2enmod that didnt happen09:44
\shKamping_Kaiser, php5-mcrypt is a php extension...it's enabled in php.ini of /etc/php5/apache2/10:05
\shwhat bugs me more is this:10:06
\shPHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613/imagick.so' - libWand.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 010:06
\shdamn10:08
\shit needs to be recompiled with libmagick1010:08
\shit still compiled against libmagick910:08
uvirtbotNew bug: #228049 in apache2 (main) "apache2-doc display Parse error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22804910:10
babolat_i'm not an expert in Ubuntu, but not exactly new. a matter of professional curiosity; if i have a standard installation of Ubuntu Desktop, will I be able to install Ubuntu Server on my desktop machine?10:44
\shbabolat_, ubuntu-server is a subset of ubuntu-desktop... you can install the Ubuntu server on your normale WS for sure..so you have a nice CLI interface.10:45
babolat_\sh: ok.. just loast u there.. *WS* ?? *CLI* ??10:45
\shbabolat_, WS == workstation, CLI==command line interface10:47
babolat_\sh, so, what do i need to make this work? a howto or a guide would be great.. it's been a week now since i have been wondering if i could host my website's files from my very own WS10:48
faulkes-I'm not aware of any specific howto (although there are discussions on the forums and on the server ML)10:51
\shbabolat_, as I said, ubuntu-server is a different seed of packages .. but all packages inside ubuntu-server you can install via the normal methods on your desktop....if you want to install Ubuntu Server (the iso image) you can do that the normal way you install -desktop...if you just need a webserver or dns ...just apt-get install <webserver> / <dnsserver>10:51
faulkes-the easiest route to start, is simply install -server and then if you want desktop, install the ubuntu-desktop package10:51
faulkes-and then do as \sh suggests with apt-get10:52
babolat_faulkes-, desktop *in* the server??10:52
babolat_\sh, sorry for being such a simian, but which packages do u mean by <webserver> / <dnsserver>10:54
\shbabolat_, there is really no difference (only the server-kernel can be different)  between -server and -desktop ... only that -server comes with a minimal set of packages installed by default, and -desktop comes with a sh*tload of desktop stuff ;)10:54
\shthe underlaying base is the very same for all ubuntu flavours10:55
\shbabolat_, well, you decide what webserver package you need e.g. (apache2, lighttpd, <whatever webserver package we have>)10:55
babolat_\sh, oh.. i gotta go read up on those server apps10:57
babolat_\sh, i just want to install something that could accomodate php and mysql, and the standard web stuff.. which would u recommend?10:58
\shbabolat_, apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql10:58
\shbabolat_, with this you get LAMP10:58
babolat_\sh, ok.. on it10:59
Nafalloapt-get install ~lamp-server ?10:59
babolat_\sh, thanks10:59
Nafallohmm some other character :-)11:00
\shNafallo, hmm...yes...let's provide a virtual package ;)11:09
\shor adding a task in d-i for lamp ,->11:09
Nafallo\sh: I was talking about the task that have existed for quite some years now...11:09
Nafallo\sh: just don't remember the syntax to tell apt to install the task rather then look for a package.11:10
vipcan any one help with ubuntu file copy speed problems ?11:14
\shfile copy speed problem?11:15
vipyeah i installed ubuntu server on a server which has a sata hdd and a raid50 configured.11:16
vipThe file copy speeds are very sad11:16
vipi had installed windows to test the speeds and i was getting double the speeds compared to ubuntu.11:17
vipfile copy (disk to disk)11:17
\shvip, hw raid5 or sw raid5?11:18
\shvip, which raid controller?11:18
viphw raid11:18
vipintel raid controller11:19
vipsrcsatawb intel raid controller11:19
\shonboard? (as in desktop machine?)11:19
vipno i've installed it on a server board11:19
vipactually i have one sata hdd which i boot from.. same issue with that too.11:19
\shhmm..most likely more a kernel driver problem then...did you test with other distros, too?11:20
\shI'm running on areca sata raid controller on my servers and no problem with speed...it's even faster then windows...configured 4 raid 5 volumes over 16 500gb seagate disks11:21
vipactually yes i had tested with slackware also.. it was slow there too. i always thought that linux would be faster.11:21
\shvip, depends on the driver code...I would push this problem more to the official kernel list...11:22
\shvip, and regarding the same speed problem on slackware, it's most likely a kernel driver problem...11:22
\sh(not ubuntu or slackware problem imho)11:23
viphmm any advice on how i can deal with this problem ?11:23
\shvip, first report this to the kernel mailinglist (check http://www.kernel.org/)...mostly the driver maintainer will get in touch with you, and you can help to debug..11:24
\shthat was fast ;)11:24
vipthanks \sh i check it out.11:26
\shvip, or just change your raid controller to something more reliable...(hp servers with smartarray, areca sata raid6 controller...very fast, imho the fastest raid6 controller on the market)11:27
vipsh: ive tried with different hardware also.. and got the same issue so i got confused.11:27
\shvip, different hardware means also a different raid controller, as in switch from the intel one to a whatever one?11:32
vipsh: lets say i forget the raid controller.. on a normal machine with 2 sata drives i installed windows. I get very good speeds. disk to disk and over the network also. when i format and install linux over it.. the speeds are slow.. less than half. Even on this server raid is working at high speeds that the sata hdd, but on windows it was double this speed.11:36
\shvip, at home my desktop machine has an intel desktop board ... and connected I have 2 500GB sata drives...last week I had a windows installation on this machine, and the io speed on windows and linux were actually the same..11:37
vipsh: which distrib did you use ?11:38
\shvip, hardy and winxp sp211:38
viphmm11:38
vipdunno :) im confused now11:39
vipi used hardy and 2003 server11:39
\shactually it's hard to tell what is the bugger actually...I really guess there is a glitch between the board + the sata controller and the kernel drivers...depends how old the hw is..mostly older hardware is better supported  then newer stuff11:40
\shor just a different printing of the speed...and windows is just lying ;)11:40
vipsh: hehe no i timed it.11:41
\shvip, well, then it's even inaccurate...ntfs vs. ext2 or ntfs vs. ext3 or ntfs vs.xfs ... it's hard to compare...what really is important is the io speed...11:42
\shiostat e.g. is a good tool to measure this...11:42
\sh(for homeuse ;))11:43
\shvip, or spew when you need a stress testing io tool11:46
vipsh:iostat good tool ? i'll check it right away then11:49
vipsh: i just ran iostat and got Blk_wrtn/s = 28.55 Blk_read/s=455.48 and tps 3.0711:54
vipsh: thanks anyways11:57
\shvip, iostat -m or iostat -k <to display mb/s or kb/s)11:57
\shvip, and if you need to watch it during a copy or mv...just do this: watch -n 1 iostat -t -m on one console and on the other start copying11:58
\shor iostat -m -t 1 <which does the same thing but prints everything on the console continuesly>11:59
blue-frog_isn't ldap in hardy a bit screwed up?12:11
blue-frog_authentication wise12:11
blue-frog_installation wise as well. ldap.secret not created during install (thought the debcinf was saying it would create it)12:18
blue-frog_created cn=admin wasn't it supposed to create cn=manager?12:24
sommerblue-frog_: it's been cn=admin at least since dapper12:36
sommerblue-frog_: probably the way it's packaged in debian12:37
blue-frog_sommer: haven't I seen manager during debconf? hum gogin to reconfigure12:37
Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone tried running debmirror from a bash script? i'm getting "wierd" perl errors (just pastebinning atm)12:37
Kamping_Kaiserhttp://paste.debian.net/2413/12:40
Kamping_Kaiserthats the same bash script that contains debmirror (using the wrapper found on the wiki), and the script run from another bash script12:40
Kamping_Kaisermight be of note - using a Debian 4.0 box to build an ubuntu mirror12:43
* _ruben whispers "apt-get install task^" to Nafallo 12:43
Nafallo_ruben: thanks :-)12:44
Nafallo_ruben: I was using the correct char, but put it at the end instead of the front :-)12:45
Deepsor use tasksel12:45
_rubentasksel still has some bugs i think, or perhaps the fix has been released already (no proper exit code handling -> zombies -> stalled tasksel)12:45
_rubenKamping_Kaiser: closest i got is running debmirror from a cronjob12:46
Kamping_Kaiser_ruben, mm. i've never really had problems with it before, and the lat few days its causing me hell (cant get the rsync mode working, and cant get it run from the script)12:47
* Kamping_Kaiser wanted a quick fix to a problem. it hasnt happened12:47
_rubenstrange12:48
Kamping_Kaiserwonder if i'm running it in different environments. something that did work, stopped working and now works agian, and its annoying me. ( yes, i know "stopped working" isnt debug output)12:48
_ruben;)12:49
Kamping_Kaiser_ruben, have you used rsync mode? i'm wondering if any ubuntu mirrors are rsync capable12:51
_rubenKamping_Kaiser: i tried it for a bit on the dutch mirror .. but has a limitation of 4 concurrent sessions (in total) which i ran into quite regularly, so i reverted to http12:51
Kamping_Kaiserok :/ probalby a per-mirror thing12:52
_rubenthink so12:52
krautdoes anybody know, how i send a magic sysrq via cyclades over ssh to a serial console of a server?12:54
Kamping_Kaisersorry no :/12:59
* Kamping_Kaiser larts au.a.u.c12:59
mistiipuiam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and getting following error. $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward13:13
mistiipubash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied          any help?13:13
Kamping_Kaisermistiipu, `echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward13:15
mistiipuKamping_Kaiser what is that comand echo > ... for and why isnt it working despit sudo ?13:15
Kamping_Kaisermindframe, echo simply means 'print to standard out'13:16
mistiipuKamping_Kaiser $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward13:16
mistiipu013:16
mistiipuuser1@computer1:~$ echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward13:16
mistiipu113:16
ogratee -a13:16
\shmistiipu, sudo echo 1 will be executed as superuser, but the stdout redir not..13:17
mistiipuhm13:17
mistiiputhx13:17
* Kamping_Kaiser cant see what was wrong with the tee yet13:17
\shmistiipu, echo 1 | sudo tee <file> is doing this: it echoes the number "1" and redirects it to sudo tee which can write into proc fs13:17
ograin "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" your sudo only applies to the echo command, the redirect gets done as the user13:17
mistiipuhm13:17
ograwho indeed has no write premission to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward13:18
\shwhich is good13:18
ograright13:18
ogra:)13:18
mistiipuhm13:18
\shbut i thought those stuff is done via sysctl.conf nowadays? ,)13:18
* mistiipu is talking to intelligent people13:18
\shmistiipu, old farts is more correct ,->13:18
ograhehe13:18
mistiipui have 2 interfaces to share internet. wish me luck13:18
mistiipuwell. i would say , then . iam a new dart13:19
\shogra, do I see you at LT?13:19
ograi run the ubuntu grill13:19
ograthosten cant come so he pushed me in as last minute replacement :)13:20
\shogra, ahhh....so there is a ubuntu grill again...13:20
Kamping_Kaiser\sh, it is (meant to be)13:20
\shand this time I can attend to it :913:20
ogramistiipu, i guess you want that as permanent setting, have a look at /etc/sysctl.conf for that13:20
mistiipuhm13:21
mistiipuogra i do. but i am new to linux. i dont understand those al13:22
\shogra, btw..you have telekom connect...what ip gives nslookup www.sourcecode.de for you?13:22
ogra# Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv413:22
ogra#net.ipv4.ip_forward=113:22
ogramistiipu, ^^^13:22
ografrom /etc/sysctl.conf13:22
ogra\sh, ogra@osiris:~$ nslookup www.sourcecode.de13:23
ograServer:217.237.150.11513:23
ograAddress:217.237.150.115#5313:23
ograerr13:23
ograsorry13:23
ograNon-authoritative answer:13:23
ograName:www.sourcecode.de13:23
ograAddress: 78.46.72.3813:23
\shogra, ah cool...13:23
ograbetter :)13:23
\shthat was quick for telekom13:23
ograbut thats a business line13:23
ograi dont use the common dsl nameservers with that13:24
\shnow I only have to wait for CDC to catch up it seems ;)13:24
\shogra, I don't care about private users ^^13:24
ogralol13:24
ograbecause the masses are using the more expensive DSL indeed :)13:24
* \sh uses real men internet connection...32mbit/s cable line...13:25
\shwith 2mbit upstream...oh well, it sucks ;)13:25
ograyeah, 32M can suck a lot :)13:26
ograyou probably can hear it slurping if you listen close to the modem :)13:26
Kamping_Kaiser*grin*13:27
\shogra, I can use my flute to provide some interferences to the line...;)13:27
ograhaha13:28
\shogra, btw...scottish or irish whisky?13:30
ograeither is good :)13:30
mistiipudo i have to do it with " or without "               Add the line “net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf13:30
ograas long as it is no burbon13:30
ogramistiipu, you just have to remove the comment sign (#) from the line13:31
* Kamping_Kaiser curses. my mirroring problem is back :( looks like debmirror (perl) has a hissy fit when i'm asking it to build on the existing mirror. this is despite being the same code as the other scirt, just run from a different location13:31
Kamping_Kaisers/location/script13:32
\shogra, good...I'll need to get one bottle of good stuff for you at least13:32
ogramistiipu, so the line becomes:13:32
mistiipuogra sliy me. thx13:32
ogra# Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv613:32
ogranet.ipv6.ip_forward=113:32
mistiipuogra iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html  . and i have 3 interfaces. one for dsl and 2 other for sharing. i have dong sharing for one. how do i share for the other?13:32
mistiipuogra and its ipv4 not ipv613:33
ograright, ipv413:33
ograwell, the second should work as well, as long as your routing is proper13:34
mistiipui mean, do i have to follow same steps. all of them . all over again but with making the sharing eth2 instead of eth1 this time ? (done for eth1) ?13:35
Deepsmistiipu: shouldn't need to13:36
Deepsit should 'just work' on the other now too13:36
mistiipuDeeps really ?13:36
mistiipuDeeps the tutorial says to enter for one interface. eth1 in my case. and i havent done that for eth2,      (i get dsl on eth4) ...        ifconfig ethX ip13:38
mistiipuwhere ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually 192.168.0.1 is used)13:38
Deepssorry, you need to have configured eth2 to work on the network you want it to work on first13:39
Deepsif it's not configured, it cant access any network, nor share, nor nothing13:39
mistiipuDeeps all are configured. but iam talking about sharing13:40
mistiipuinternet13:40
Deepssharing shouldn't require any furhter configuration13:40
Deepsthe document you linked to show you should have done something likeiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE13:40
mistiipuDeeps but i have configured eth1 only.13:40
mistiipuDeeps yes.13:40
Deepsthat line configures sharing for all inbound connections to NAT via eth413:40
mistiipuoh. ic13:41
mistiipuDeeps and what are inbound connections to nat?13:41
mistiipuifconfig ethX ip13:41
mistiipu<mistiipu> where ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually 192.168.0.1 is used)13:41
Deepsyour other subnets13:41
Deepseg, you can have eth1 listening on 192.168.0.113:41
Deepseth2 litening on 10.200.10.4513:42
Deepsas long as the computers on those subnets have their default gateway pointing to the relevant IP on the linux machine13:42
DeepsNAT will happen13:42
Deepshave you tried it yet?13:42
mistiipuone is working13:43
mistiipulet me check the other13:43
mistiipuDeeps i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine13:59
mistiipuDeeps you there?14:02
mistiipuiam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???14:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #228061 in samba (main) "Samba doesn't display the shared stuffs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22806115:04
nasaHi,  I have a hardware raid card, I created an array and I can't find a way to partition it.  I get the following messages from dmesg:  [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).15:18
nasa[sdb] Sector size 0 reported, assuming 51215:18
nasa [sdb] 0 512-byte hardware sectors (0 MB)15:18
nasaAnybody ever see this before?15:18
faulkes-all depends on your raid card and the size of the array15:19
faulkes-iirc linux/ubuntu has issues with arrays over 2TB15:20
nasaI have a rocketraid card, using the opensource drivers15:20
nasaThe array is 1.5T15:21
ivoksfaulkes-: no it doesn't15:22
ivoksfaulkes-: pc partition table has issue with >2TB disks15:22
ivoksnasa: how did you create the array?15:23
faulkes-ivoks: just going on discussions I've seen in the forums where people have had issues >2TB+15:23
ivoksnasa: with rocketraid's fakeraid?15:23
nasaivoks: I used the raid management software that came with the card15:23
ivoksnasa: well, i'm sorry to inform you, but that's not raid card :)15:23
nasa??15:24
ivoksnasa: you'll be better of with linux integrated software raid than with fakeraid on those cards15:24
ivoksfaulkes-: fdisk can't read big partitions, but parted can15:24
nasaivoks: parted doesn't even see sdb15:25
ivoksnasa: do you know the model of that card?15:25
nasait's a rocketraid 232015:26
ivokswith two disks on it?15:27
ivoksor... how many?15:27
nasaivoks: I actually have 7 drives on it...  5 are on a RAID-5 configuration (which is working fine.  I built that array on a 1740 card, and it was recognized right away).  I am building a RAID-0 (this attempt) with 2 drives15:28
ivoksso, you have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?15:30
ivoksonly those two?15:30
nasaCorrect15:30
ivoksand when you run 'print' in parted, you only see sda?15:30
nasawhen I run "sudo parted /dev/sdb" it doesn't start/show anything15:31
\shfor drives/raids with >=2TB you need an EIT/GPT partition table15:31
ivoks\sh: right, but this one is 1.5 :)15:32
ivoksnasa: just run 'sudo parted'15:32
ivoksand then print15:32
\shivoks, so...he has 2 drives and he wants raid0 from the card...15:32
nasaok15:32
ivoks\sh: right15:33
\shit should give only one drive..aka volume in raid controller slang15:33
\shnasa, you build the raid0 device with this 2320?15:33
nasaYes, and I also have a raid5 array (sda) which isn't showing up with the print command under parted15:34
ivoksnasa: so, what shows up then?15:34
nasaivoks: hold on sec, should have run "print all"15:35
ivoksprint all or print, should be the same15:35
gregbradyIn Open Office Calc, is it possible to open a file via sftp?  I have tried and it just keeps asking me for my password, which I supply correctly, and then gives "a general internet error has occured."15:36
nasaIt wasn't.  The all option added my raid5 array, but not the raid0 array15:36
\shsounds more like the controller doesn't like the raid signature15:37
\shor the kernel doesn't know anything about raid5/raid0 support for this controller15:38
stbaingreetings all15:38
ivoks\sh: kernel is aware of the disk (there is /dev/sdb)15:39
ivoksbut it can't read it's size15:39
ivoksnasa: try, from parted15:39
ivoksnasa: parted /dev/sdb15:39
Deepsnothing out of fdisk -l ?15:39
ivoksnasa: mklabel gpt (this will/should remove everything on /dev/sdb)15:40
ivoksfdisk should also be capable reading partition sizes on disks < than 2TB15:40
nasaivoks: it gives me the help menu....15:40
ivoksnasa: are you using custom kernel or stock ubuntu kernel?15:41
ivoksand which version of ubuntu?15:41
Deepsfdisk -l should list all disks, sizes and partition tables15:41
\shivoks, so something is fcked up with the device in general...mostly the raid is not fully builded...but raid controller gives back the info to the kernel about the two devices...15:41
nasaI'm using the stock ubuntu server kernel15:41
nasaThe latest version15:41
ivoks\sh: but first device, raid5, works ok15:41
nasaivoks: yes15:41
nasaI'm figuring that it works because I partitioned it on another card/system15:42
\shivoks, no it doesn't if nothing gets the size of the device...something is wrong there...bios of the controller, kernel driver or whatever it needs to get the real size15:42
ivoksnasa: could you reboot and enter controller's mngmnt bios?15:42
ivoks\sh: raid5 works, raid0 doesn't - there are two logical disks15:42
\shivoks, and building a raid on another controller is evil...15:43
nasaYeah, what would I be looking for?15:43
zulmathiaz: for that openldap silently refuses to start when unable to open SSL certificates bug couldnt we do somehting like "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -64 [HINT: check your ssl certificates]"15:43
ivoksnasa: check if everything is ok :)15:43
nasaYeah, I have checked the bios before and everything looks as it should15:44
AtomicSparkif you're using a raid controller, linux doesn't need to know anything about the raid. it shows it as a disk.15:44
ivoksnasa: well, maybe your controler doesn't like logical disks from another controller :)15:44
AtomicSparkwell if you implement hardware raid like you're supposed to15:44
ivoksAtomicSpark: well, it need raid controller driver15:44
AtomicSparkoh. well that's true.15:44
AtomicSparkit doesn't have a driver? that's odd.15:44
ivoksit does...15:45
nasaNo, it does have a driver and it seems to be working15:45
AtomicSparkah. so what's the problem?15:45
ivoksdriver 'sees' both logical disks15:45
ivoksbut can't read size of the second logical disk15:45
AtomicSparkthat's... interesting15:45
\shrocketraid 2320?15:46
nasaYeah15:46
mathiazzul: you mean updating the bug description ?15:46
AtomicSparkdid you make both at the same time? did you forget to initialize it?15:46
ivoksit's very important to note that first logical disk (which works) was transfered from another controller15:46
\shaye...it's highpoint...15:46
AtomicSparkah i see. maybe you did forget to initialize the drive :P15:46
ivoksnasa: could you disconnect first logical disk (well, all the disks in raid5), with only two disks from raid0 conneted?15:46
ivoksand then boot up server installation15:47
ivoksand check if you can see the disk15:47
mistiipui followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it didnt worked for me. how can i revert?15:47
nasaAtomicSpark: No, I did initialize the drives.  No, the 2 arrays were created at different times15:47
zulmathiaz: I mean updating the error message so its a bit less cryptic like they do in apache15:47
ivoksmistiipu: reading that from bottom up15:47
AtomicSparkmistiipu, buy a router, they're cheap ffs. :P15:48
nasaivoks: you mean pull the sata cables for the raid5 array from the card and then try rebooting...?15:48
ivoksnasa: right15:48
mathiazzul: well - I'd add a check to verify if the cert and key files can be read - and log an error if not15:48
ivoksnasa: but pull them out while computer is powered off :D15:48
ivoksmistiipu: there are two commands you need for internet sharing15:49
\shhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/rocketraid-2320-problem-fedora-8-615988/ ;)15:49
nasaivoks: yeah, I can try that -- but it will be a while (server is in another room)15:49
mistiipuAtomicSpark hm15:49
mistiipuivoks ic15:49
mistiipuivoks which ones15:49
mistiipu?15:49
ivoksmistiipu: first: echo "1" > proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward15:50
\shhmm...rocketraid drivers are in ubuntu kernel?15:50
mistiipuivoks and?15:50
ivoksmistiipu: second: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j XYZ -j MASQUERADE15:50
ivokswhere XYZ is your WAN interface15:50
mistiipuivoks i told you i followed that15:50
mistiipui followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it didnt worked15:51
ivoksmistiipu: well, you did something wrong, cause that works :)15:51
zulmathiaz: well yeah it does that already when it initalizes the tls context but that error message is cryptic I agree15:51
mistiipuivoks may be i dont know how to make ip settings15:51
nasa\sh: no, I had to compile them15:51
ivoksmistiipu: you don't need any ip settings15:51
\shnasa, aha15:51
ivoksjust those two commands15:51
mistiipuivoks well i did that. and the internet was not shared15:51
\shnasa, well, following google this controller gives people more headaches then it helps15:52
\shhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-311723.html15:52
ivoks\sh: nasa maybe that controller supports only one logical disk15:52
ivokscause, i was *very* surprised when I noticed that it is some kind of hardware raid :)15:52
\shivoks, it looks like it...raid5+raid0 no go..but raid5+2 disk is also dangerous to setup15:53
nasaivoks: Nope, thier website clearly states it supports multiple logical disk15:53
mathiazzul: where is this error message coming from ?15:53
mistiipuivoks eth4 is for my dsl.   eth1  2 face 2 pcs15:53
mathiazzul: is it from openldap or gnutls ?15:53
mistiipunevermind. ill just buy a switch.15:53
zulmathiaz: openldap15:53
ivoksmistiipu: great, then XYZ is eth415:53
ivoksand eth1->3 should have set up ip addresses15:54
mistiipuivoks yes. i did exactly the same15:54
mathiazzul: so it's just a matter of replacing the log message string.15:54
\shnasa, where do you get that from?15:54
zulmathiaz: pretty much....not that hard to do15:54
mistiipuivoks what settings should i do in eth 1 2 on server and what about clients?15:54
mathiazzul: well - not sure - actually - there may be some other errors thrown by gnutls when initializing the context15:54
ivoksto make things easier: eth1: 192.168.1.1, eth2: 192.168.2.115:55
mathiazzul: ex a bad private key15:55
ivoksclients, first: 192.168.1.2, second: 192.168.2.215:55
mathiazzul: or the private key and the cert don't match15:55
zultrue but that would be another error number15:55
ivoksrouter 192.168.[12].115:55
mathiazzul: right - I haven't looked at the code - but we should not log an error message about wrong permission if it's not the case15:55
\shnasa, honestly I don't read anywhere from their specs that it supports 2 different raid modes15:56
mistiipuivoks theres not router opton. just ip. netmask. broadcast. dns15:56
\shI could think of that it support raid 0 + raid1 in general, but raid5 + raidX I don't think it works15:56
ivoksmistiipu: on clients? there must be router15:56
mistiipuivoks windows clients. just dns. and default gw15:57
nasa\sh: Just a moment15:57
zulmahiaz: I agreee I was thinking something like "main: TLS init def ftx failed: <number> [HINT: Check SSL configuraton]"15:57
ivoksmistiipu: router=gateway15:57
mistiipuivoks why it should be 12.1?15:57
ivoksfor the love of god...15:57
ivoks192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.115:57
ivoks192.168.[12].1 was easier to write15:58
mistiipuoh ..15:58
mistiipugot it15:58
mistiipudns?15:58
* ogra wonders if god really loves 1 and 2 more than 1215:58
ivoksdns of your isp15:58
nasa\sh: go to http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ select support, then FAQ, then general SATA questions -- it's question #515:58
mistiipuivoks my isp?15:58
mistiipuivoks my isp or my dsl router ip. 192.168.1.115:58
zulogra: well yess he does then it wouldnt be first or second in our hearts15:58
ivoksdns of your isp15:58
ograheh15:59
mistiipuhm15:59
ivokscheck /etc/resolv.conf on your ubuntu machine15:59
ivoksthose are the two you need15:59
mistiipunameserver 192.168.1.116:00
ivoksso, your ubuntu is not the router16:00
mathiazzul: could you check the return code of the TLS init def - and log an appropriate message if it's related to wrong permissions ?16:00
\shnasa, aeh multiple raid arrays doesn't mean multiple arrays of different levels...16:00
mistiipuivoks net mask?16:00
mistiipuivoks no16:00
ivoksyour ubuntu has another gateway16:00
zulmathiaz: sure16:00
mistiipuivoks its my dsl modem router ip16:01
mistiipuivoks net mask?16:01
ivoksmistiipu: uhh...16:01
mistiipu255.255.255.0 for both16:02
\shnasa, and you did disable the linux internel highpoint ide support?16:02
ivoks[adsl modem-192.168.1.1]->[ubuntu box 192.168.1.2]16:02
zulmathiaz: looks like that happens in  ldap_init_tls_init_ctx in libraries/libldap/tls.c16:02
ivoksclient1 [ubnutu box 10.0.1.1]->[client1 10.0.1.2]16:03
nasa\sh: internel highpoint ide support?16:03
\shinternal ;)16:03
ivoksclient2 [ubnutu box 10.0.2.1]->[client1 10.0.2.2]16:03
ivoksclient3 [ubnutu box 10.0.3.1]->[client1 10.0.3.2]16:03
* nasa needs to work on his typing...16:03
\shnasa, faq -> linux -> topic 616:03
mistiipuivoks and while making the eth1 2 on the server i should set their ip to 192.168.(12).1  . right?16:04
ivoksmistiipu: you should really get familiar with networking basics if you want to set up network16:04
\shnasa, but the most convinient way is to call highpoint support and ask if it's really possible to have raid5+raid0 mixed on the controller16:04
mistiipuivoks well i did al that. but it didnt worked. not even pinged. i desabled firewall and it did pinged but no internet still16:05
ivoksmistiipu: no, set them to 10.0.[12].116:05
ivokscause your ruter already has 192.168.1.116:05
ivoksyou can't have your computer on that address too16:05
ivoksit won't know where to route packages16:05
ivokspackets16:05
mistiipuivoks actually i set them eth1 to 192.168.0.1 (server)  192.168.0.2 (client)      .11.1  and .11.2 for eth216:06
ivoksok, great16:06
mistiipuivoks well i did al that. but it didnt worked. not even pinged. i desabled firewall and it did pinged but no internet still16:06
nasa\sh: I will have to do that16:06
ivoksmistiipu: cause you didn't set up dns16:06
mistiipuon client side. i set dns as 192.168.1.116:07
ivoksmistiipu: dns is 192.168.1.116:07
mistiipu:) ^16:07
mistiipuand gw as as .0.1 and .11.116:07
mistiipuon clients side ^16:07
ivoksright16:07
Deepscan you ping 64.233.183.99 on any of your clients?16:08
mistiipuand it didnt shared internet. only clint was able to ping when server firewall was off16:08
mistiipuDeeps i cant open an site from clients.16:08
ivokswhat server firewall?16:08
mistiipufirestarter16:08
\shok...heading home16:08
nasabbl: after I talk with highpoint....16:08
ivoksuh...16:08
Deepsmistiipu: thats not what i asked16:09
ivoksmistiipu: kill all firewalls on all computers16:09
mistiipuivoks i disabled fs16:09
mistiipustoped*16:09
mistiipuDeeps no.16:09
ivoksmistiipu: are you sure iptables tables were empty? i'm not.16:10
Deepssounds like either ip forwarding isn't enabled, or it's not natting16:10
ivoksyou can't stop firewall16:10
ivoksyou can set it up or flush it, you can't stop it16:10
mistiipuivoks hm.16:10
mistiipuso . then16:10
mistiipu?16:10
ivoksdid you set everything up?16:10
mistiipui should add rules in firewal to allow 192.168.*.* ?16:11
mistiipuyes16:11
ivokscat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward16:11
ivokswhat does it return?16:11
mistiipuwel it would do 116:11
ivoks0 or 1?16:11
mistiipubut i reverted it16:11
* Deeps grins16:12
mistiipuivoks if you say so . ill give a second try16:12
ivoksgo to computer with ip 11.216:12
ivoksand ping 192.168.11.116:12
mistiipuk16:12
mistiipuit pings when fire s is stoped16:12
ivoksi repeat, kill/stop/flush/disable all firewalls on all computers16:12
mistiipujust a min16:12
mistiipui reverted all settings. which 2 comands you said i want to use for sharing?16:13
mistiipusudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE16:13
ivoksiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE16:13
mistiipuand?16:13
ivoksecho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward16:13
mistiipu$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward16:14
mistiipubash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied16:14
mistiipuuser1@computer1:~$ echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward16:14
mistiipu116:14
ivoksok16:14
mistiipucool?16:14
mistiipuok16:14
mistiipunow16:14
ivoksnow ping 11.1 and 0.116:14
mistiipufrom serveR?16:15
mistiipuops.16:15
mistiipusory.16:15
* mistiipu going to the clients16:15
ivoksno, from clients16:15
mistiipuno16:17
mistiipuit dont pings16:17
mistiipuif i click on 'stop' at firestarter. it does pings. but no internet ivoks16:18
ivokswell, then you didn't setup IP addresses correctly16:18
ivoksi give up16:18
ivoksi've told you three times to stop all firewalles on all computers16:18
mistiipuserver ip. 192.168.0.1 maskt 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255   .        client 192.168.0.2  mask 255.255.255.0  def gw 192.168.0.1   dns 192.168.1.116:20
ivoksthe thing is that firestarter flushes and disables masquerading16:20
mistiipuhm.. really ?16:21
ivoksas i said, there's not 'stoping firestarter' - there's only flushing16:21
ivoksand since you flused your iptables, it doesn't masquerade16:21
mistiipuso what can be done?16:21
mistiipui uninstall fs?16:21
ivoksanybody?16:21
mistiipuanybody?16:21
mistiipuwhat16:22
mistiipushould i uninstall fs?16:22
mistiipuivoks16:22
ivoksmistiipu: you should do what i told you couple of times - disable firewall16:23
ronniereddi just got here - what's wrong?16:23
ivoksafter you do that, then start setting up everyting16:23
zulmathiaz: something like this http://pastebin.com/d49d2a5e16:23
ronniereddU have a rule setup for LDAP in fs?16:26
mistiipu_ivoks sory i was disconected16:26
mistiipu_so ?16:26
mistiipu_ivoks you there16:29
ivoksmistiipu_: i'm not sure what else i could tell you?16:30
mistiipu_ok. should i remove firesaterter?16:30
ivoksjust disable it or stop it or whatever16:30
mathiazzul: hmm... I wouldn't put in DEBUG level16:30
ivoksrun those two commands and it will work16:30
mathiazzul: it's at least an warning, if not an error.16:30
mistiipu_ivoks ok. what do you think can be wrong16:31
zulok Ill change that16:31
ivoksmistiipu_: nothing is wrong,16:32
mistiipu_then why isnt it working16:32
ivoksdid you disable firewall?16:33
ivokscan you ping server from clients?16:33
mistiipu_yes16:35
mistiipu_yes16:35
ivoksgreat, can you ping 192.168.1.1 now?16:36
ivoksfrom clients16:36
mistiipu_no. let me check16:36
mistiipu_i just pinged 0/11.116:36
ivoksping 1.1 (or whatever is you ADSL modem)16:37
zulmathiaz: I changed it to a fprintf and it goes to stderr16:37
mistiipu_ivoks i cant ping 1.116:38
mistiipu_ivoks it gives me a dhcp ip. does that had to do with anything?16:38
ivoksok16:38
ivoksno16:39
mistiipu_k16:39
ivoksnow, on server, check:16:39
ivokscat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward16:39
mistiipu_0 :(16:39
ivokschange to 116:40
mistiipu_done16:40
mistiipu_now16:40
mistiipu_?16:40
ivoksiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE16:40
ivokswhere X is interface connected to modem16:41
mistiipu_done16:41
ivoksnow try pinging 192.168.1.116:41
ivoksfrom clients16:41
mistiipu_nop16:42
mistiipu_no ping16:42
mistiipu_it only pings to 0.116:42
ivokswhat's the interface that gets ip from modem's dhcp?16:42
ivoksyou said eth4, that means you have 5 network cards in computer... :)16:43
mistiipu_working16:44
mistiipu_i think its browsing. but not pinging 1.116:44
mistiipu_and there was a message some time ago16:44
mistiipu_let me copy that16:44
mistiipu_Server Error in '/' Application.16:47
mistiipu_--------------------------------------------------------------------------------16:47
mistiipu_Runtime Error16:47
mistiipu_Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.16:47
mistiipu_now its working fine16:47
mistiipu_but not pinging 1.116:47
mistiipu_<configuration>16:48
mistiipu_    <system.web>16:48
mistiipu_        <customErrors mode="Off"/>16:48
mistiipu_    </system.web>16:48
mistiipu_</configuration>16:48
ivoksstop flooding the channel16:48
nealmcb!paste16:48
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mistiipu_sory16:51
mistiipu_     -------     ivoks    -----      rocks !!16:52
mistiipu_thanks !16:52
mistiipu_every thing seems working....16:52
mistiipu_ivoks should i give you a bit of more head ache?16:52
ivoksno16:53
mistiipu_ivoks i think i need tc command. i read the man. but it gave me headaches.         i need eth1+eth2=20k/s dl limit and 4k upload       and i dont want any eth user to consume all the trafic (while both eth1 and eth2 are online) and drain bandwidth from the other. any help?16:54
mistiipu_ivoks i need a firewall firestarter. i only get internet while its desabled. any solution?17:02
hotmonkeyluvwhen installing server 8.04, if I select NO to to: "install grub to MBR" do I get to choose a location to install it to, or does it just not get installed?17:30
Deepsheh, where else would you install it to?17:31
hotmonkeyluvi dunno17:31
Deepsgrub being a bootloader17:31
hotmonkeyluvwell, I have an ide drive and 4 scsi drives17:31
hotmonkeyluvand I think it boots to the ide drive17:32
hotmonkeyluvand I installed it on a scsi17:32
Deepsah17:32
ograyou can install grub into a partition indeed17:32
hotmonkeyluvok!17:32
ogradoesnt need to be mbr17:32
hotmonkeyluvthanks17:32
* Deeps takes notes17:32
ograbut i forgot if you get a selection17:32
ograits years ago that i did that last time :)17:33
hotmonkeyluvyou do17:33
hotmonkeyluvhave to enter it manually though17:33
ograand indeed there needs to be something in the mbr that chainlodas17:33
* hotmonkeyluv forgot which drives are which...17:33
hotmonkeyluvchainload?17:34
hotmonkeyluvyay! it workeded!!!1!17:36
hotmonkeyluvthank you Deeps and ogra17:36
Deepsthank ogra, we both learnt from him hehe17:36
AtomicSparkthe pro of grub is that it does NOT have to be the MBR :P17:37
hotmonkeyluvyes17:37
hotmonkeyluvthankfully17:37
ograbut *something* needs to be in the mbr to call (chainload) the grub from the partition17:37
hotmonkeyluvI just installed it to the mbr on my IDE drive17:38
hotmonkeyluvand it works ok17:38
hotmonkeyluvbut now i'm late for work17:39
hotmonkeyluvbbl17:39
babolati did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and i'm stuck at Installing Packages | Please wait | 0%18:07
babolatis this normal and it just takes long to install, or is something wrong? it's been like this for like half an hour or so18:08
duryhi there channel :)18:08
duryanyone has phpmyadmin installed?18:09
durycan't login18:09
durycould anyone assist me to login18:10
babolati did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and i'm stuck at Installing Packages | Please wait | 0%18:10
babolatis this normal and it just takes long to install, or is something wrong? it's been like this for like half an hour or so18:10
mistiipui followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ?18:11
* delcoyote hi18:12
duryin this url http://localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php I login as root but it said = Error18:13
dury#1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)18:13
mistiipuogra you there?18:14
durycould anyone drive me what should I do, please?18:15
mistiipu\sh ?18:15
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durythat's phpMyAdmin 2.10.3deb1ubuntu0.218:19
durythere is no way to login18:19
durymaybe i missed a package18:20
sommerdury: you could try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin18:20
sommerdury: you need to use a mysql user to login... when you installed mysql it should have prompted you to set the root password18:21
mistiipui followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ? 2nd it was sharing internet. i rebooted all pcs. and its not sharing now. why so?18:23
dennisterok, i'm pretty frustrated with trying to install samba server here; no matter what i do I get:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"18:24
dennisterthis is a thread in the forums, but no fix yet that I can find...anybody got any ideas?18:25
durysommer: didn't realize a mysql user to login when I installed, how can I do one?18:26
durysommer: could assist or help to fix it please, I would really appreciate it18:28
sommerdury: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.018:28
sommerdury: should ask you to set the root password18:29
durysommer: hang on18:29
durysommer: great supporter!!! success18:32
dennisteranyone got any idea how to fix samba installation? (will NOT give anything but a half-configuration)18:32
sommerdury: party!18:33
sommerdennister: how are you installing samba?18:33
durysommer: you know..... I really appreciate your help and support.... believe me :)18:34
dennistersommer: every possible way i know actually :-) repos, cdrom, apt-get, aptitude...18:34
dennisteralways the same non-result18:34
durysommer: party, mate! :)18:34
sommerdennister: can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get install samba18:35
sommerdury: you're welcome :)18:35
dennister!pastebein18:35
ubottuFactoid pastebein not found18:35
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sommer!paste18:35
durysommer: thank you so much18:35
sommerdury: no problem18:35
dennistersommer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10984/18:37
sommerdennister: can you paste the output of: dpkg -l | grep samba18:38
ograand do you have an old smb.conf lying around ? and is there anything in daemon.log (or any samba logfile) that would explain why it cant start ?18:39
sommerogra: good call :)18:39
dennistersommer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10985/18:39
ograthats a recent hardy version18:40
dennisterogra: actually, there probably are...was reading about this in launchpad, so i located them all, removed them, and still got the same problems18:40
sommerdennister: does sudo apt-get -f install give you the same error?18:40
dennisterogra: yes, and hardy's driving me totally bokers18:41
dennistersommer: yes18:41
dennisterdon't want to be negative, as i'm a big fan of all my previous versions, but hardy is a huge disappointment18:42
sommerdennister: do you have a backup of you old configs?18:42
dennistersommer: nope, cause i wanted to purge them18:42
dennisterbeen purging nonstop witht this samba issue, but like i said, nothing helps18:43
sommerdennister: gotcha, you might try purging samba dpkg -P samba samba-common then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install samba18:43
sommerdennister: also, as ogra said are there any messages in /var/log/syslog related to samba?18:44
ogratail /var/log/samba/log.smbd18:44
matrixi need source list18:44
matrixfor netharland18:44
sommerdennister: ^^ that too18:44
dennistersommer: tried your method of purging, but I'm told i can't purge samba-common18:45
dennistertoo many dependencies18:45
sommermmm, is this a server install?18:46
durysommer: if I logged in in phpmyadmin It means that I have apache, php and mysql installed.. is it right?18:46
sommerdury: heh, yep... that's a fair statement :)18:46
sommerdennister: just try purging samba then18:47
durysommer: what you mean with a "fair statement", (sorry to ask you that)18:48
dennisterwill look in the var/log/syslog in a minute...but there are actually only 4 dependencies for samba-common: smbclient, smbfs, winbind, and libpam-smbpass18:48
mistiipui followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ? 2nd it was sharing internet. i rebooted all pcs. and its not sharing now. why so?18:48
dennisterhow about if I remove all of them, and then get them back later?18:48
sommerdennister: ya, I'd try purging them... you can always reinstall them18:48
dennisterok, i will, since I have the list18:49
sommerdury: woops didn't mean to be confusing... yes, you have php with apache and mysql18:49
mistiipu\sh ?18:51
mistiipuogra you there?18:51
durysommer: do you know how to install WordpressMU http://mu.wordpress.org/18:51
mistiipublue-frog_ any one?18:52
ogramistiipu, sorry no clue about firestarter18:52
ograi never touched it18:52
sommerdury: I've never actually installed it myself, but it should be similar... if you search help.ubuntu.com there's probably a guide18:52
mistiipuk18:52
blue-frog_mistiipu: certainly because you did an ip forward which has been lost at reboot18:53
dennistersommer: ok, done the purging, updated slocate, no versions of smb.conf left18:53
mistiipublue-frog_ it will be lost on every reboot?18:54
blue-frog_mistiipu: you need to tweak /etc/sysctl.conf18:54
sommerdennister: what about /var/lib/samba?18:54
sommerdennister: it shouldn't be there18:54
mistiipublue-frog_ what about firestarter18:54
dennisterjust tried apt-get samba, and it wants to reinstall samba-common, which I believe is causing all the problems18:54
blue-frog_mistiipu: don't know18:54
sommerdennister: that's expected18:54
mistiipublue-frog_ # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv418:54
mistiipunet.ipv4.ip_forward=118:54
dennistersommer: no, var/lib/samba isn't there18:55
blue-frog_mistiipu: yes18:55
dennisterbut shouldn't i install the other dependencies, too, the four that i just removed?...18:55
mistiipublue-frog_ its already unmounted18:56
dennisteroh...and Important detail: i got fed up with repos version, so i commented all of them out and am only using the original cdrom18:56
dennisterat least it installed that way last week when I built this server18:56
ograthere were no updates to samba since release18:56
ograso that is fine18:56
ogradennister, grep RUN_MODE /etc/default/samba18:57
sommerdennister: you should be able to install samba and samba-common without those other packages18:57
dennisterok, so now reinstall samba, samba-common, and leave out those other four dependecies?18:57
sommerdennister: for now yes18:57
* ogra wonders if dennister's samba is set to inetd mode18:58
sommerogra: good question18:59
dennisterogra: i just tried your grep command, and it said "no such file or directory"; i believe the ONLY mention of samba i've now got is the empty /var/log/samba directory (I removed them manually)18:59
durysommer: how to make sure that the line  "LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so" appears in httpd.conf18:59
dennisterwill now try reinstalling only samba and samba-common18:59
ogradennister, right, and then check the /var/log/samba files for errors18:59
sommerdury: use sudo a2enmod rewrite... and you should be good to go18:59
* sommer goes to meeting bbl19:00
dennisterhey, i got some success!...not completely satisfied with some of the "uint32 failed" messages, but the daemons started19:01
ograis that an amd64 you are installing on ?19:02
dennisterogra: no, gave up on amd64 OS's a long time ago19:02
dennisterogra: only samba-common didn't install properly this time...will pastebin19:03
dennisterogra: could you take a look at my results while I take 5 minutes for a cig outside? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10989/19:04
ograi/me sits outside smoking :)19:05
ogradennister, try: touch /etc/libuser.conf19:08
ograand see if the errors go away19:08
ogra(shot in the dark, i'm by no means a samba expert or even user :) )19:08
durysommer: I've checked in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/ and there is mod_rewrite.so19:09
ogradennister, ah, no thats nothing, dont try the touch, google indicates it has something to do with the password db in /var/lib/samba apparently19:13
dennisterogra: ty, so much...will only reinstall the dependencies I'd removed if I run into problems19:16
ogragood luck :)19:17
cody-somervilleHow much better is slapd in Hardy then Gutsy?19:25
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ogracody-somerville, 32.4%19:29
zulogra: why do low? :)19:29
cody-somervilleA saner question: Is the version in Gutsy like "omgz, upgrade before you ask me a question!" or is it decent enough to use? :P19:30
ograi probably didnt measure really precisely, there is a tolerance of about 7%19:30
zulcody-somerville: its the next best thing since slice bread :)19:32
cody-somervilleHow about ebox? :P19:37
zulits good I know some people are using it19:41
cody-somervillegah!19:57
cody-somervillevarrun                316M  316M     0 100% /var/run19:57
cody-somerville: /19:57
peanuterI am going to install vserver on my dapper server.  I have the wiki up and have read it completely.  was just wondering if there are any suggestions before I start.19:57
sTiVoI have mysql running on ubuntu but it can only be seen from localhost.  what do I have to change to open port 3306 to the LAN?19:58
Nafallocody-somerville: how did you manage to fill that one? :-O19:59
cody-somervilleNafallo, mysql replication server probably19:59
cody-somervilleHow do I make it bigger then 316mb? :(19:59
cody-somerville/var/run is slowly running out on the other server too19:59
cody-somervillewell, not so slowly19:59
Nafallocody-somerville: /etc/fstab20:00
Nafallocody-somerville: move it to a filesystem or something20:00
cody-somerville/etc/fstab doesn't have anything about /var/run :(20:00
Nafallooh. it doesn't.20:01
Nafallotry adding something :-)20:01
sTiVoany mysql-knowledgeable people here?20:02
sTiVohow do I expose a mysql database to the LAN?  what config file needs to be changed?20:03
NavopFollowing the Perfect Server step, i'm at the section /etc/init.d/bind9 start and I get an error, can someone help me out plz?20:06
sommersTiVo: change the bind-address parameter in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to the IP of your NIC20:06
NafalloNavop: not without knowing the error20:06
sommersTiVo: then restart mysql with /etc/init.d/mysql restart20:06
NavopNafallo where can i see the error,20:06
NafalloNavop: well... you just said "and I get an error". you tell me :-)20:07
Navopactually when i do the start at the end of the line i get a [fail]?20:08
Nafallotail /var/log/syslog to see why20:08
Navopthier already--> i get permission denied20:09
Navopin the syslog20:09
Nafallonot sure what you mean by that. are you saying you can't view the syslog?20:10
Navopno in syslog :none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: permission denied20:11
Navopalso  loading configuration: permission denied20:12
Navopgoing to retry the steps20:13
Nafallothere you go then.20:15
Nafallo-rw-r----- 1 root bind 1611 2007-07-15 14:10 /etc/bind/named.conf20:15
Navoptrying to stop the bind process and I get this : rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused20:16
Nafalloshould be because it never started :-020:16
Nafallo:-)20:16
Navopk thanks20:16
donspauldingare there any known problems with postfix on 8.04?20:21
peanuteri am unable to install linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-11-vserver-generic and apt-cache doesn't have it.  i have modified the sourcelist as documented and apt-get update'd20:22
peanuterany suggestions?20:22
lamontdonspaulding: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=postfix is a pretty comprehensive list of all the outstanding issues, esp when combined with the launchpad page20:23
lamontOTOH, I should go through and clean those up20:23
peanuterahhhh dpkg.u32.net/ubuntu is not updating odd20:24
peanuteranyone know of another repository that has linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-vserver-generic20:25
peanuterIgn http://dpkg.u32.net edgy/vserver Packages20:27
peanuterIgn http://dpkg.u32.net edgy/vserver Sources20:27
melteranyone know why "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" isn't storing the email address i specify for the root account?20:32
lamontmelter: without looking at the postinst, I think it won't write it if there's already an alias for root in /etc/aliases20:37
melterlamont, there already is a /etc/aliases file, but i assumed it would make the changes i specify. who owns /etc/aliases? i don't see it listed in "dpkg -S aliases"20:42
lamont$MTA owns it. :-(20:44
mistiipu iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???20:44
lamontmelter: not sure but what it didn't add a second root: entry in /etc/aliases???  in which case, the first one would win20:45
melterit didn't do anything, but i'm going to remove the aliases file and reconfigure just to see what happens20:46
lamontcool20:47
* lamont will see about looking at it later this week (end)20:47
melterlamont, that works20:48
lamontbut generally, postfix has had a lot of fun dealing with not overwriting changes made outside of debconf with non-changes in debconf wiht ...20:48
lamontmelter: if you can get it down to what/when it does it wrong, please file a bug with the details, and what you expect should have happened instead of what did.20:48
melterlamont, ok20:48
lamontthanks20:49
mistiipu iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???20:57
good_danai'm having trouble with a majordomo mailing list, i created a new list and EVERY message gets an NDR that says: "The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address."21:00
mistiipuhow to limit bandwith for an ip or eth interface by tc comand?21:10
mistiipu how to simply limit 192.168.0.3 to 15kb/s ?21:37
mistiipu<mistiipu> or how to simply limit eth2 to 15kb/s ?21:37
mistiipu how to simply limit 192.168.0.3 to 15kb/s ?21:37
mistiipu<mistiipu> or how to simply limit eth2 to 15kb/s ?21:37
Deepsmistiipu: http://lartc.org/21:38
peanutersudo apt-get install linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-vserver-generic21:39
peanuterexcuse me pasted the same thing again by mistake21:39
peanuteris there a good alternative to vserver?21:40
peanutersince i am unable to get the linux kernel image21:41
_ZeuZ_Any news on QoS?21:42
_ZeuZ_Any place where ISPs can chat?21:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #228340 in gnome-keyring-manager "ssh-add -D (or -d) does not delete the keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22834021:50
mistiipuwhat wil this do        tc qdisc add dev eth0 root tbf rate 15kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000   ?21:54
_ZeuZ_it would add the default qdisc for the interface eth0 with the tbf protocol at a range of 15kbps and the other is the buffers limit I guess21:56
_ZeuZ_mistiipu, it would add the default qdisc for the interface eth0 with the tbf protocol at a range of 15kbps and the other is the buffers limit I guess21:58
mistiipui did           sudo tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 12kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000        is it 12kb/s or 12 kbps   (it seems 12kbps on a trafic knemo chart) ?22:05
erimar77need help with 8.04 server bacula-director-pgsql22:05
erimar77http://pastebin.com/m53a8a22d22:05
erimar77it seems to fail on the postinstall script22:05
nealmcberimar77: did you look at /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf ?22:33
erimar77nealmcb: look at it for what22:37
erimar77since the installation fails, the postgres database does not get setup22:38
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nealmcberimar77: I know little about bacula, but simply noted that the error mentions that file.  does it exist on your system?  is is something you need to set up?22:44
melterlamont, i just filed a bug for the postfix thing22:44
melter#22839122:45
erimar77melter: when you install bacula with apt-get it runs a postinstall script from /var/lib/dpgk/bacula and that file is messed up22:47
erimar77melter: sorry wrong person22:47
erimar77nealmcb: that was to you22:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #228391 in postfix (main) "/etc/aliases not updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22839122:51
ajmitchhm, I hope he filed a bug for that bacula issue22:57
gregbradyWhy is it in Open Office Calc that when I try to open a file via sftp, I am asked for my password a couple of times and then get a "General Internet Error"?  Is it not possible to work on a file remotely via sftp?23:10
AtomicSparkif i want to host an intranet website on my server, do i need more then LAMP? it seems to resolve to the hostname, but i think it's a bit buggy.23:28
AtomicSparkubuntu think's its on a domain (which it isn't). should i install DNS too and then make an A record for the server?23:29
nealmcbAtomicSpark: it will help a lot to show us specific commands and error messages23:30
nealmcbGuide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html23:30
AtomicSparknealmcb, no error messages. just trying to set up drupal. the server doesn't have dns or mail installed so answering questions like "what's the administrator email" is kindof pointless.23:31
nealmcbcoffeedude: are you coming to prague for uds?23:31
coffeedudenealmcb: ah.....I was planning to but am going to bail at the last minute.  Had some travel this week and more deadlines next.  Just a bit too much travel to handle right now.  Actually hadn't mailed Rick yet.  I should do  that now23:32
nealmcbAtomicSpark: ahh - drupal - adding the "mail-server" task with tasksel might be helpful, at least to send local mail or use a smarthost.  you should be able to use some other machine for dns23:33
nealmcbcoffeedude: we'll miss you!23:33
nealmcbcoffeedude: so what should we do to improve stuff in intrepid?23:34
AtomicSparknealmcb, i figured i could use the mail server just for outgoing messages.23:34
nealmcb(what do you have up your sleeves?) :-)23:34
AtomicSparknealmcb, i'm just wondering if having the server at a fakedomain.local (which i put during the install) will mess with anything.23:34
AtomicSparkright now i'm using openDNS for our network.23:35
coffeedudenealmcb: Main this I'll be interested in is improving File/Print services (Samba).  I'll have to spend some time23:35
coffeedudenealmcb: putting some ideas together.23:35
AtomicSparkoff subject, what is keeping track of all the hostnames. the router?23:36
AtomicSparkhmm. it appears it can only resolve the server. must just be in arp cache.23:37
nealmcbcoffeedude: much appreciated :-)23:37
coffeedudenealmcb: what day does UDS start (not FOSS) ?23:37
coffeedudenext week right ?23:37
mathiazcoffeedude: UDS starts monday May 19th23:38
mathiazcoffeedude: FOOSCAMP starts on thursday May 15th, ie next week23:38
coffeedudemathiaz: Thanks.  So one week away then.23:38
nealmcbcoffeedude: ...depending on the slew in your clock rates - "items on the calendar are closer than they seem"   :-)23:40
coffeedudenealmcb: True.  very true23:43
nealmcbAtomicSpark: you can use /etc/hosts, or some other dns server, to map names to addresses23:43
nealmcbcoffeedude: :-)23:44
* nealmcb hates having to log out for silly unix group management - when are we gonna fix that?23:47
ajmitchnealmcb: depends, how many POSIX assumptions have to be thrown out?23:50
nealmcb:-/23:51
AtomicSparknealmcb, funny. i don't see where it asked for the domain during the install. i must of been seeing things.23:51
nealmcbajmitch: or what other authn mechanicms can be used for e.g. libvirt23:51

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