[00:07] <_ZeuZ_> Dunno, Havent ever have trouble with them... either way, what errors do they drop? dependencie trouble?
[00:16] <_ZeuZ_> !QoS
[00:27]  * flyback goodnight all
[02:42]  * flyback loves the smell of bleach and hydrocloric acid as he nukes all traces of mold in the house.   He also understands of those 2 mix = darwin awards
[04:15] <saltedlight> hi. anyone know how to start verlihub at boot time and can give some advices on how to do it?
[04:15] <vip> hello
[04:17] <vip> I have installed ubuntu server and i am getting half the speeds on file copy that i get on windows.
[04:18] <vip> anyone know about some setting that could be causing this problem ?
[04:19] <ScottK> You're more likely to get a good answer to a question like that during the US/European work day.
[04:24] <vip> ok thanks
[04:44] <nomidnes> Hi all, I am having problems with installing the postgresql-8.3 package.. I get errors like: Error: initdb failed. and Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with
[04:44] <nomidnes> it is trying to use configs from: /etc/postgresql/8.3/main
[04:44] <nomidnes> which does not exist...
[04:44] <nomidnes> is that not meant to get created at install time?
[04:45] <nomidnes> versions: postgresql-8.3_8.3.1-1_amd64.deb postgresql-common_87_all.deb
[04:47] <nomidnes> as far as I can tell the two important directories (/etc/postgresql/8.3/main and /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main) are not created or populated
[04:47] <AtomicSpark> nomidnes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[04:47] <AtomicSpark> that's as much help you're probably going to get right now since i've never installed it and everyone else is away at nights/weekends :P
[04:48] <lucent> nomidnes: you're probably missing an important package
[04:48] <nomidnes> aah right
[04:48] <lucent> did you do "apt-get install postgresql" ?
[04:48] <nomidnes> thats what I thoughts..
[04:48] <nomidnes> *thought
[04:48] <AtomicSpark> ^sudo
[04:49] <AtomicSpark> ^ sude
[04:49] <nomidnes> # apt-get install postgresql-8.3
[04:49] <nomidnes> runnig in sudo -s
[04:49] <nomidnes> tried in synaptic at the start...
[04:49] <nomidnes> what time is a good time to come back?
[04:50] <ScottK> nomidnes: US/European work day tends to be best.
[04:50] <lucent> nomidnes: unrelated, but you should always try to run "sudo su"  or "sudo -sH"
[04:50] <lucent> never "sudo -s"
[04:51] <nomidnes> yeah I use su otherwise
[04:51] <lucent> the difference is in the environment
[04:51] <ScottK> lucent: Actually sudo su can sometimes end you up with odd environment settings.  What you'd really want is sudo -i
[04:52] <nomidnes> ok I will swap to that in the future...
[04:52] <lucent> ScottK: interesting
[04:53] <nomidnes> ScottK: what time is it currently?
[04:53] <ScottK> Where?
[04:53] <ScottK> 0353 UTC is what I have.
[04:53] <hads> sudo -s is alight if that's what you are intending
[04:53] <nomidnes> its 4pm here.. just want to get an approx time for me to come back in...
[04:53] <hads> s/alight/alright/
[04:53] <lucent> ScottK: sudo -i messes with PWD though
[04:53] <lucent> I don't like that
[04:57] <hads> lucent: What do see the problem as with sudo -s?
[04:57] <lucent> hads: I use $HOME a lot
[04:58] <lucent> it bothers me when I'm root UID but my $HOME is still that of the previous user id
[04:58] <lucent> just doesn't seem natural
[04:58] <lucent> much prefer sudo -sH
[04:59] <hads> Fair enough. I can see that being useful for you but not really a case to say "never use sudo -s" :)
[04:59] <nomidnes> lucent: how does that work?, sudo -sH results in sudo: please use single character options
[04:59] <ScottK> nomidnes: Things should be more alive starting in about 4 or 5 hours and then stay that way for about 10 to 12 hours.
[04:59] <lucent> well -s -H
[04:59] <lucent> I mischatted
[04:59] <nomidnes> Scottk thanks
[05:00] <nomidnes> lucent: don't worry I should have realised to try that
[05:00] <lucent> hads: -s -H prevents problems like new users saying "Why can't I access this file, it's in my home dir?"
[05:00] <hads> nomidnes: 4pm? You in NZ?
[05:00] <lucent> um... because it is root uid owned when you did something under sudo -s ?
[05:00] <nomidnes> if I make a mess I just chown -R it
[05:00] <lucent> :P
[05:00] <nomidnes> hade: yeah
[05:01] <nomidnes> *hads: yeah
[05:01] <AtomicSpark> i'm confused. why not just use sudo? no options?
[05:02] <hads> lucent: I can see what you're saying but if you argue that then you should argue to never use "sudo command" either.
[05:03] <hads> AtomicSpark: No reason at all. Just discussing different ways to get a root shell.
[05:03] <AtomicSpark> hads, ah i see. i'm not even sure of the other commands. i'm reading up on it now.
[05:03] <lucent> hads: don't use "sudo -s"
[05:03] <lucent> that's what I think.
[05:04] <lucent> I've provided a valid reason not to use it
[05:04] <hads> OK, I disagree :)
[05:04] <lucent> I should say, I have provided a valid reason not to use it in the general case
[05:04] <hads> lucent: Yes, but that same reason would apply to "sudo command". Do you recommend not to use that too?
[05:04] <lucent> quit trolling me
[05:05] <nomidnes> thanks all for the help
[05:05] <nomidnes> I will be around later....
[05:06] <lucent> nomidnes: best wishes, mate.  Once you get pgsql up and humping, there's a #postgresql channel on this IRC network which is quite awesome
[05:06] <AtomicSpark> ah. -i is environment.
[05:06] <lucent> highly recommend it for pgsql specific questions
[05:06] <hads> lucent: I was actually trying to have a rational conversation but that's fine.
[05:07] <nomidnes> lucent: yeah I have used that in the past.. Its just this machine that I am having issues on... Its my only 8.04 server one though.
[05:07] <hads> nomidnes: I've got postgresql on a couple of Hardy boxes here, didn't have an issue.
[05:07] <nomidnes> hads: amd64?
[05:08] <hads> All x86
[05:08] <nomidnes> I might have to make a chroot env or a vm of the x86
[05:08] <nomidnes> just copy the files I need
[05:08] <lucent> nomidnes: answers one of my quetions "What arch?" , the other question is was this a fresh install from Server, from Alternate, network boot, or an upgrade?
[05:09] <nomidnes> lucent: sorry I missed that.. arch is amd64 its a fresh server install
[05:09] <nomidnes> ooh. its from rc1
[05:09] <nomidnes> hmmm
[05:09] <AtomicSpark> nomidnes, rc1? you mean the beta?
[05:10] <nomidnes> wonder if there are any compilcations..
[05:10] <hads> nomidnes: There were changes to 8.3 late in the release cycle.
[05:10] <hads> Don't know if they were related or not but I do recall changes.
[05:10] <nomidnes> I only just tried to install it. portgres* was not installed
[05:10] <hads> OK
[05:10] <nomidnes> I will try the same thing on a clean install
[05:11] <lucent> nomidnes: is a fresh install out of the question?  The RC releases specifically state they are not compatible with the final release
[05:11] <nomidnes> I think that a fresh install it probably the thing that I am going to hav eto do...
[05:12] <nomidnes> It is strange that this is the only issue that I have had
[05:12] <lucent> sounds like a plan, I assure you it should work then
[05:12] <lucent> if not, get back to me I'd like to know more about any potential problem
[05:12]  * lucent points to his shiny amd64 machine
[05:13] <lucent> have been holding out to mess with my OS on amd64 ;)
[05:13] <nomidnes> I have an AD PDC running on it, LDAP with replication and a number fo other servers..
[05:13] <nomidnes> aah, yeah I have been using amd64 for quite some time.. early on there were some painful teething issues
[05:14] <nomidnes> now its reasonably easy
[05:15] <nomidnes> AtomicSpark: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc
[05:15] <AtomicSpark> i only use 64 bit for servers. can't be assed to mess with flash.
[05:16] <nomidnes> flash?
[05:16] <AtomicSpark> flash doesn't work in 64 bit firefox. gotta do the work around.
[05:16] <nomidnes> aah right, I have had less issues with it recently
[05:17] <nomidnes> anyway I will stay i channel and disconnect from this screen
[05:17] <nomidnes> later all
[05:23] <lucent> AtomicSpark: 32-bit chroot is what I do
[05:23] <lucent> AtomicSpark: it does suck down quite a lot of disk space to do it
[05:23] <lucent> overall it's user friendly
[05:24] <lucent> I even have my little icon in GNOME be a launcher, and the script killall -9's the offending browser that has crashed (no doubt! I mean, flash crashes all the time)
[05:24] <AtomicSpark> i haven't had crashing problems since i did a fresh install. just random firefox freezing. think thats a 3.0 related bug.
[05:25] <lucent> AtomicSpark: firefox without flash has not crashed once on me
[05:25] <lucent> with flash, it freezes and crashes regularly
[05:29] <AtomicSpark> hmm
[05:32] <hads> AtomicSpark: FF 3b crashes here too
[05:34] <AtomicSpark> did you two do fresh installs? i never get the flash crash thing
[05:34] <Centaur5> with every other flash video or application that is opened it crashes
[05:37] <lucent> AtomicSpark: Adobe Flash
[05:38] <lucent> swfdec and gnash were okay when they worked
[05:39] <hads> AtomicSpark: Not flash crashing, FF 3b crashes occasionally.
[05:39] <AtomicSpark> are you talking about on 64 bit?
[05:39] <hads> x86
[05:39] <AtomicSpark> weird. i never have problems anymore.
[05:39] <AtomicSpark> i did fresh install 8.04 x86 w/ adobe
[05:49] <osmosis> what the heck is this,  w83793 0-002f: set bank to 0 failed, fall back to bank 2, read reg 0x21 error
[05:51] <AtomicSpark> they took your moneys
[06:16] <LiraNuna> anyone knows of a PHP software that will manage events? Kind of like meetup.com, but personal
[06:17] <LiraNuna> preferably opensource, I'd love to keep my server proprietary-free
[06:30] <RoAkSoAx> anyone experienced with LVS clusters?
[08:28] <sgrover> Is it possible to set up access to an NFS share with key authentication - something like SSH?
[08:30] <lucent> I've never heard of that before, sgrover
[08:30] <sgrover> I'm looking to find a way to do a secure connection to a local file server from a roadwarrior laptop without having to setup VPNs or any extra steps for the end user...
[08:30] <lucent> why NFS?
[08:30] <sgrover> NFS need not be the tool, but when I think file serving over a distributed network, I think NFS...
[08:31] <lucent> sshfs is more popular for that sort of thing
[08:31] <lucent> VPN is not difficult though
[08:32] <sgrover> hmmm... thanks... part of my issue is finding the right words to describe what I want.. :)
[08:32] <lucent> setting up an IPCop box with the zerina OpenVPN scripts takes an hour maybe
[08:32] <lucent> it's all web interface and easy to generate/setup VPN connections
[08:32] <sgrover> If VPN can be set up without any interaction from the user, I'd be for that.  (Already have IPCop setup with Zerina/OpenVPN)
[08:33] <lucent> you're going to have to interact with the user for secure access
[08:33] <lucent> why bother them with some odd filesystem? :)
[08:33] <sgrover> guess it can be scripted - check if an Internet connection is possible, if run the openvpn command....
[08:33] <lucent> um
[08:34] <lucent> what OS is your target for the roadwarrior?
[08:34] <soren> Are the guests Ubuntu machines, too?
[08:34] <sgrover> lucent: what I'm after is a common file store so that I would have the same files available, regardless of where I am... and other users as well.
[08:34] <lucent> yeah VPN and SAMBA is the way to do this, if you ask me
[08:34] <sgrover> At the moment, I'm the guinea pig.  So Ubuntu on the server, local workstation, and laptop.
[08:35] <lucent> Ubuntu Desktop has "nm-applet" network manager
[08:35] <lucent> there's an add-on for VPN support
[08:35] <lucent> it works beautifully
[08:35] <sgrover> will do an auto connect when possible?
[08:35] <lucent> no
[08:35] <lucent> Cisco's VPN client doesn't do that
[08:36] <lucent> I don't know any free VPN client that does auto-sensing or auto-anything really
[08:36] <lucent> free-as-in beer when I say free
[08:36] <sgrover> understood.. :)
[08:36] <lucent> no mucking about on the commandline though and it integrates with the Gnome key store
[08:36] <sgrover> The idea isn't fully formed yet, so sorry if I'm not doing a great job of describing this...
[08:37] <sgrover> lucent: I'm ok with Bash scripting if/when needed.
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <lucent> click, blah blah network connection (wireless in my case), click again to connnect to VPN,  choose it,  and done
[08:37] <sgrover> and would be setting up all the workstations involved.
[08:38] <lucent> what this does not allow for is multiple VPN connections
[08:38] <sgrover> only does one at a time?
[08:38] <lucent> yeah, at least that's how it operated when I used it a month ago
[08:38] <lucent> on Gutsy
[08:39] <lucent> I'm not making this up, I had a client that needed one thing or the other to get QuickBooks software working remotely
[08:39] <lucent> my boss told me to use a VPN
[08:39] <lucent> and so I did.
[08:40] <lucent> it epic failed for QuickBooks (which fetches an entire 60MB file on open() ), but all the technology worked great and was not weird
[08:40] <sgrover> lucent: I've worked with VPN, and know what you are getting at.  I'm picturing long term when I need to deal with users who may not have any clue what VPN is....
[08:41] <sgrover> NFS would be perfect - if it didn't need to be locked down to particular IPs.  If I could apply keys like an SSH key, then it's a done deal...
[08:42] <lucent> uh NFSv4 hrm with kerberos
[08:42] <lucent> I don't know anything about that
[08:43] <sgrover> hmm... I'm not favmiliar with Kerberos... other than knowing what it is...
[09:04] <pschulz01> Greetings.. is there an easy way to find packages that supply particular perl modules?
[09:04] <juliux> pschulz01, apt-cache search ;)
[09:05] <pschulz01> eg. the latest version of bugzilla (3.0.4) requires PatchReader.
[09:05] <pschulz01> juliux: Yep.. been doing a lot of that.
[09:06] <pschulz01> Google google google
[09:32] <T-Hawk> hey guys... i got a problem getting php5-mcrypt to work... i have php5-mcrypt installed via apt, and reloaded my apache server, but according to phpinfo (); there's no mcrypt extension, and the functions don't work
[09:35] <T-Hawk> anybody?
[09:43] <lucent> odd
[09:44]  * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if there was an a2enmod that didnt happen
[10:05] <\sh> Kamping_Kaiser, php5-mcrypt is a php extension...it's enabled in php.ini of /etc/php5/apache2/
[10:06] <\sh> what bugs me more is this:
[10:06] <\sh> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613/imagick.so' - libWand.so.9: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[10:08] <\sh> damn
[10:08] <\sh> it needs to be recompiled with libmagick10
[10:08] <\sh> it still compiled against libmagick9
[10:44] <babolat_> i'm not an expert in Ubuntu, but not exactly new. a matter of professional curiosity; if i have a standard installation of Ubuntu Desktop, will I be able to install Ubuntu Server on my desktop machine?
[10:45] <\sh> babolat_, ubuntu-server is a subset of ubuntu-desktop... you can install the Ubuntu server on your normale WS for sure..so you have a nice CLI interface.
[10:45] <babolat_> \sh: ok.. just loast u there.. *WS* ?? *CLI* ??
[10:47] <\sh> babolat_, WS == workstation, CLI==command line interface
[10:48] <babolat_> \sh, so, what do i need to make this work? a howto or a guide would be great.. it's been a week now since i have been wondering if i could host my website's files from my very own WS
[10:51] <faulkes-> I'm not aware of any specific howto (although there are discussions on the forums and on the server ML)
[10:51] <\sh> babolat_, as I said, ubuntu-server is a different seed of packages .. but all packages inside ubuntu-server you can install via the normal methods on your desktop....if you want to install Ubuntu Server (the iso image) you can do that the normal way you install -desktop...if you just need a webserver or dns ...just apt-get install <webserver> / <dnsserver>
[10:51] <faulkes-> the easiest route to start, is simply install -server and then if you want desktop, install the ubuntu-desktop package
[10:52] <faulkes-> and then do as \sh suggests with apt-get
[10:52] <babolat_> faulkes-, desktop *in* the server??
[10:54] <babolat_> \sh, sorry for being such a simian, but which packages do u mean by <webserver> / <dnsserver>
[10:54] <\sh> babolat_, there is really no difference (only the server-kernel can be different)  between -server and -desktop ... only that -server comes with a minimal set of packages installed by default, and -desktop comes with a sh*tload of desktop stuff ;)
[10:55] <\sh> the underlaying base is the very same for all ubuntu flavours
[10:55] <\sh> babolat_, well, you decide what webserver package you need e.g. (apache2, lighttpd, <whatever webserver package we have>)
[10:57] <babolat_> \sh, oh.. i gotta go read up on those server apps
[10:58] <babolat_> \sh, i just want to install something that could accomodate php and mysql, and the standard web stuff.. which would u recommend?
[10:58] <\sh> babolat_, apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql
[10:58] <\sh> babolat_, with this you get LAMP
[10:59] <babolat_> \sh, ok.. on it
[10:59] <Nafallo> apt-get install ~lamp-server ?
[10:59] <babolat_> \sh, thanks
[11:00] <Nafallo> hmm some other character :-)
[11:09] <\sh> Nafallo, hmm...yes...let's provide a virtual package ;)
[11:09] <\sh> or adding a task in d-i for lamp ,->
[11:09] <Nafallo> \sh: I was talking about the task that have existed for quite some years now...
[11:10] <Nafallo> \sh: just don't remember the syntax to tell apt to install the task rather then look for a package.
[11:14] <vip> can any one help with ubuntu file copy speed problems ?
[11:15] <\sh> file copy speed problem?
[11:16] <vip> yeah i installed ubuntu server on a server which has a sata hdd and a raid50 configured.
[11:16] <vip> The file copy speeds are very sad
[11:17] <vip> i had installed windows to test the speeds and i was getting double the speeds compared to ubuntu.
[11:17] <vip> file copy (disk to disk)
[11:18] <\sh> vip, hw raid5 or sw raid5?
[11:18] <\sh> vip, which raid controller?
[11:18] <vip> hw raid
[11:19] <vip> intel raid controller
[11:19] <vip> srcsatawb intel raid controller
[11:19] <\sh> onboard? (as in desktop machine?)
[11:19] <vip> no i've installed it on a server board
[11:19] <vip> actually i have one sata hdd which i boot from.. same issue with that too.
[11:20] <\sh> hmm..most likely more a kernel driver problem then...did you test with other distros, too?
[11:21] <\sh> I'm running on areca sata raid controller on my servers and no problem with speed...it's even faster then windows...configured 4 raid 5 volumes over 16 500gb seagate disks
[11:21] <vip> actually yes i had tested with slackware also.. it was slow there too. i always thought that linux would be faster.
[11:22] <\sh> vip, depends on the driver code...I would push this problem more to the official kernel list...
[11:22] <\sh> vip, and regarding the same speed problem on slackware, it's most likely a kernel driver problem...
[11:23] <\sh> (not ubuntu or slackware problem imho)
[11:23] <vip> hmm any advice on how i can deal with this problem ?
[11:24] <\sh> vip, first report this to the kernel mailinglist (check http://www.kernel.org/)...mostly the driver maintainer will get in touch with you, and you can help to debug..
[11:24] <\sh> that was fast ;)
[11:26] <vip> thanks \sh i check it out.
[11:27] <\sh> vip, or just change your raid controller to something more reliable...(hp servers with smartarray, areca sata raid6 controller...very fast, imho the fastest raid6 controller on the market)
[11:27] <vip> sh: ive tried with different hardware also.. and got the same issue so i got confused.
[11:32] <\sh> vip, different hardware means also a different raid controller, as in switch from the intel one to a whatever one?
[11:36] <vip> sh: lets say i forget the raid controller.. on a normal machine with 2 sata drives i installed windows. I get very good speeds. disk to disk and over the network also. when i format and install linux over it.. the speeds are slow.. less than half. Even on this server raid is working at high speeds that the sata hdd, but on windows it was double this speed.
[11:37] <\sh> vip, at home my desktop machine has an intel desktop board ... and connected I have 2 500GB sata drives...last week I had a windows installation on this machine, and the io speed on windows and linux were actually the same..
[11:38] <vip> sh: which distrib did you use ?
[11:38] <\sh> vip, hardy and winxp sp2
[11:38] <vip> hmm
[11:39] <vip> dunno :) im confused now
[11:39] <vip> i used hardy and 2003 server
[11:40] <\sh> actually it's hard to tell what is the bugger actually...I really guess there is a glitch between the board + the sata controller and the kernel drivers...depends how old the hw is..mostly older hardware is better supported  then newer stuff
[11:40] <\sh> or just a different printing of the speed...and windows is just lying ;)
[11:41] <vip> sh: hehe no i timed it.
[11:42] <\sh> vip, well, then it's even inaccurate...ntfs vs. ext2 or ntfs vs. ext3 or ntfs vs.xfs ... it's hard to compare...what really is important is the io speed...
[11:42] <\sh> iostat e.g. is a good tool to measure this...
[11:43] <\sh> (for homeuse ;))
[11:46] <\sh> vip, or spew when you need a stress testing io tool
[11:49] <vip> sh:iostat good tool ? i'll check it right away then
[11:54] <vip> sh: i just ran iostat and got Blk_wrtn/s = 28.55 Blk_read/s=455.48 and tps 3.07
[11:57] <vip> sh: thanks anyways
[11:57] <\sh> vip, iostat -m or iostat -k <to display mb/s or kb/s)
[11:58] <\sh> vip, and if you need to watch it during a copy or mv...just do this: watch -n 1 iostat -t -m on one console and on the other start copying
[11:59] <\sh> or iostat -m -t 1 <which does the same thing but prints everything on the console continuesly>
[12:11] <blue-frog_> isn't ldap in hardy a bit screwed up?
[12:11] <blue-frog_> authentication wise
[12:18] <blue-frog_> installation wise as well. ldap.secret not created during install (thought the debcinf was saying it would create it)
[12:24] <blue-frog_> created cn=admin wasn't it supposed to create cn=manager?
[12:36] <sommer> blue-frog_: it's been cn=admin at least since dapper
[12:37] <sommer> blue-frog_: probably the way it's packaged in debian
[12:37] <blue-frog_> sommer: haven't I seen manager during debconf? hum gogin to reconfigure
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> has anyone tried running debmirror from a bash script? i'm getting "wierd" perl errors (just pastebinning atm)
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> http://paste.debian.net/2413/
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats the same bash script that contains debmirror (using the wrapper found on the wiki), and the script run from another bash script
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> might be of note - using a Debian 4.0 box to build an ubuntu mirror
[12:43]  * _ruben whispers "apt-get install task^" to Nafallo 
[12:44] <Nafallo> _ruben: thanks :-)
[12:45] <Nafallo> _ruben: I was using the correct char, but put it at the end instead of the front :-)
[12:45] <Deeps> or use tasksel
[12:45] <_ruben> tasksel still has some bugs i think, or perhaps the fix has been released already (no proper exit code handling -> zombies -> stalled tasksel)
[12:46] <_ruben> Kamping_Kaiser: closest i got is running debmirror from a cronjob
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> _ruben, mm. i've never really had problems with it before, and the lat few days its causing me hell (cant get the rsync mode working, and cant get it run from the script)
[12:47]  * Kamping_Kaiser wanted a quick fix to a problem. it hasnt happened
[12:48] <_ruben> strange
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> wonder if i'm running it in different environments. something that did work, stopped working and now works agian, and its annoying me. ( yes, i know "stopped working" isnt debug output)
[12:49] <_ruben> ;)
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> _ruben, have you used rsync mode? i'm wondering if any ubuntu mirrors are rsync capable
[12:51] <_ruben> Kamping_Kaiser: i tried it for a bit on the dutch mirror .. but has a limitation of 4 concurrent sessions (in total) which i ran into quite regularly, so i reverted to http
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok :/ probalby a per-mirror thing
[12:52] <_ruben> think so
[12:54] <kraut> does anybody know, how i send a magic sysrq via cyclades over ssh to a serial console of a server?
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry no :/
[12:59]  * Kamping_Kaiser larts au.a.u.c
[13:13] <mistiipu> iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and getting following error. $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:13] <mistiipu> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied          any help?
[13:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> mistiipu, `echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:15] <mistiipu> Kamping_Kaiser what is that comand echo > ... for and why isnt it working despit sudo ?
[13:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> mindframe, echo simply means 'print to standard out'
[13:16] <mistiipu> Kamping_Kaiser $ cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:16] <mistiipu> 0
[13:16] <mistiipu> user1@computer1:~$ echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:16] <mistiipu> 1
[13:16] <ogra> tee -a
[13:17] <\sh> mistiipu, sudo echo 1 will be executed as superuser, but the stdout redir not..
[13:17] <mistiipu> hm
[13:17] <mistiipu> thx
[13:17]  * Kamping_Kaiser cant see what was wrong with the tee yet
[13:17] <\sh> mistiipu, echo 1 | sudo tee <file> is doing this: it echoes the number "1" and redirects it to sudo tee which can write into proc fs
[13:17] <ogra> in "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" your sudo only applies to the echo command, the redirect gets done as the user
[13:17] <mistiipu> hm
[13:18] <ogra> who indeed has no write premission to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:18] <\sh> which is good
[13:18] <ogra> right
[13:18] <ogra> :)
[13:18] <mistiipu> hm
[13:18] <\sh> but i thought those stuff is done via sysctl.conf nowadays? ,)
[13:18]  * mistiipu is talking to intelligent people
[13:18] <\sh> mistiipu, old farts is more correct ,->
[13:18] <ogra> hehe
[13:18] <mistiipu> i have 2 interfaces to share internet. wish me luck
[13:19] <mistiipu> well. i would say , then . iam a new dart
[13:19] <\sh> ogra, do I see you at LT?
[13:19] <ogra> i run the ubuntu grill
[13:20] <ogra> thosten cant come so he pushed me in as last minute replacement :)
[13:20] <\sh> ogra, ahhh....so there is a ubuntu grill again...
[13:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> \sh, it is (meant to be)
[13:20] <\sh> and this time I can attend to it :9
[13:20] <ogra> mistiipu, i guess you want that as permanent setting, have a look at /etc/sysctl.conf for that
[13:21] <mistiipu> hm
[13:22] <mistiipu> ogra i do. but i am new to linux. i dont understand those al
[13:22] <\sh> ogra, btw..you have telekom connect...what ip gives nslookup www.sourcecode.de for you?
[13:22] <ogra> # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
[13:22] <ogra> #net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[13:22] <ogra> mistiipu, ^^^
[13:22] <ogra> from /etc/sysctl.conf
[13:23] <ogra> \sh, ogra@osiris:~$ nslookup www.sourcecode.de
[13:23] <ogra> Server:		217.237.150.115
[13:23] <ogra> Address:	217.237.150.115#53
[13:23] <ogra> err
[13:23] <ogra> sorry
[13:23] <ogra> Non-authoritative answer:
[13:23] <ogra> Name:	www.sourcecode.de
[13:23] <ogra> Address: 78.46.72.38
[13:23] <\sh> ogra, ah cool...
[13:23] <ogra> better :)
[13:23] <\sh> that was quick for telekom
[13:23] <ogra> but thats a business line
[13:24] <ogra> i dont use the common dsl nameservers with that
[13:24] <\sh> now I only have to wait for CDC to catch up it seems ;)
[13:24] <\sh> ogra, I don't care about private users ^^
[13:24] <ogra> lol
[13:24] <ogra> because the masses are using the more expensive DSL indeed :)
[13:25]  * \sh uses real men internet connection...32mbit/s cable line...
[13:25] <\sh> with 2mbit upstream...oh well, it sucks ;)
[13:26] <ogra> yeah, 32M can suck a lot :)
[13:26] <ogra> you probably can hear it slurping if you listen close to the modem :)
[13:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> *grin*
[13:27] <\sh> ogra, I can use my flute to provide some interferences to the line...;)
[13:28] <ogra> haha
[13:30] <\sh> ogra, btw...scottish or irish whisky?
[13:30] <ogra> either is good :)
[13:30] <mistiipu> do i have to do it with " or without "               Add the line “net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1" to /etc/sysctl.conf
[13:30] <ogra> as long as it is no burbon
[13:31] <ogra> mistiipu, you just have to remove the comment sign (#) from the line
[13:31]  * Kamping_Kaiser curses. my mirroring problem is back :( looks like debmirror (perl) has a hissy fit when i'm asking it to build on the existing mirror. this is despite being the same code as the other scirt, just run from a different location
[13:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> s/location/script
[13:32] <\sh> ogra, good...I'll need to get one bottle of good stuff for you at least
[13:32] <ogra> mistiipu, so the line becomes:
[13:32] <mistiipu> ogra sliy me. thx
[13:32] <ogra> # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv6
[13:32] <ogra> net.ipv6.ip_forward=1
[13:32] <mistiipu> ogra iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html  . and i have 3 interfaces. one for dsl and 2 other for sharing. i have dong sharing for one. how do i share for the other?
[13:33] <mistiipu> ogra and its ipv4 not ipv6
[13:33] <ogra> right, ipv4
[13:34] <ogra> well, the second should work as well, as long as your routing is proper
[13:35] <mistiipu> i mean, do i have to follow same steps. all of them . all over again but with making the sharing eth2 instead of eth1 this time ? (done for eth1) ?
[13:36] <Deeps> mistiipu: shouldn't need to
[13:36] <Deeps> it should 'just work' on the other now too
[13:36] <mistiipu> Deeps really ?
[13:38] <mistiipu> Deeps the tutorial says to enter for one interface. eth1 in my case. and i havent done that for eth2,      (i get dsl on eth4) ...        ifconfig ethX ip
[13:38] <mistiipu> where ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually 192.168.0.1 is used)
[13:39] <Deeps> sorry, you need to have configured eth2 to work on the network you want it to work on first
[13:39] <Deeps> if it's not configured, it cant access any network, nor share, nor nothing
[13:40] <mistiipu> Deeps all are configured. but iam talking about sharing
[13:40] <mistiipu> internet
[13:40] <Deeps> sharing shouldn't require any furhter configuration
[13:40] <Deeps> the document you linked to show you should have done something likeiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE
[13:40] <mistiipu> Deeps but i have configured eth1 only.
[13:40] <mistiipu> Deeps yes.
[13:40] <Deeps> that line configures sharing for all inbound connections to NAT via eth4
[13:41] <mistiipu> oh. ic
[13:41] <mistiipu> Deeps and what are inbound connections to nat?
[13:41] <mistiipu> ifconfig ethX ip
 where ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually 192.168.0.1 is used)
[13:41] <Deeps> your other subnets
[13:41] <Deeps> eg, you can have eth1 listening on 192.168.0.1
[13:42] <Deeps> eth2 litening on 10.200.10.45
[13:42] <Deeps> as long as the computers on those subnets have their default gateway pointing to the relevant IP on the linux machine
[13:42] <Deeps> NAT will happen
[13:42] <Deeps> have you tried it yet?
[13:43] <mistiipu> one is working
[13:43] <mistiipu> let me check the other
[13:59] <mistiipu> Deeps i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine
[14:02] <mistiipu> Deeps you there?
[14:05] <mistiipu> iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[15:18] <nasa> Hi,  I have a hardware raid card, I created an array and I can't find a way to partition it.  I get the following messages from dmesg:  [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
[15:18] <nasa> [sdb] Sector size 0 reported, assuming 512
[15:18] <nasa>  [sdb] 0 512-byte hardware sectors (0 MB)
[15:18] <nasa> Anybody ever see this before?
[15:19] <faulkes-> all depends on your raid card and the size of the array
[15:20] <faulkes-> iirc linux/ubuntu has issues with arrays over 2TB
[15:20] <nasa> I have a rocketraid card, using the opensource drivers
[15:21] <nasa> The array is 1.5T
[15:22] <ivoks> faulkes-: no it doesn't
[15:22] <ivoks> faulkes-: pc partition table has issue with >2TB disks
[15:23] <ivoks> nasa: how did you create the array?
[15:23] <faulkes-> ivoks: just going on discussions I've seen in the forums where people have had issues >2TB+
[15:23] <ivoks> nasa: with rocketraid's fakeraid?
[15:23] <nasa> ivoks: I used the raid management software that came with the card
[15:23] <ivoks> nasa: well, i'm sorry to inform you, but that's not raid card :)
[15:24] <nasa> ??
[15:24] <ivoks> nasa: you'll be better of with linux integrated software raid than with fakeraid on those cards
[15:24] <ivoks> faulkes-: fdisk can't read big partitions, but parted can
[15:25] <nasa> ivoks: parted doesn't even see sdb
[15:25] <ivoks> nasa: do you know the model of that card?
[15:26] <nasa> it's a rocketraid 2320
[15:27] <ivoks> with two disks on it?
[15:27] <ivoks> or... how many?
[15:28] <nasa> ivoks: I actually have 7 drives on it...  5 are on a RAID-5 configuration (which is working fine.  I built that array on a 1740 card, and it was recognized right away).  I am building a RAID-0 (this attempt) with 2 drives
[15:30] <ivoks> so, you have /dev/sda and /dev/sdb?
[15:30] <ivoks> only those two?
[15:30] <nasa> Correct
[15:30] <ivoks> and when you run 'print' in parted, you only see sda?
[15:31] <nasa> when I run "sudo parted /dev/sdb" it doesn't start/show anything
[15:31] <\sh> for drives/raids with >=2TB you need an EIT/GPT partition table
[15:32] <ivoks> \sh: right, but this one is 1.5 :)
[15:32] <ivoks> nasa: just run 'sudo parted'
[15:32] <ivoks> and then print
[15:32] <\sh> ivoks, so...he has 2 drives and he wants raid0 from the card...
[15:32] <nasa> ok
[15:33] <ivoks> \sh: right
[15:33] <\sh> it should give only one drive..aka volume in raid controller slang
[15:33] <\sh> nasa, you build the raid0 device with this 2320?
[15:34] <nasa> Yes, and I also have a raid5 array (sda) which isn't showing up with the print command under parted
[15:34] <ivoks> nasa: so, what shows up then?
[15:35] <nasa> ivoks: hold on sec, should have run "print all"
[15:35] <ivoks> print all or print, should be the same
[15:36] <gregbrady> In Open Office Calc, is it possible to open a file via sftp?  I have tried and it just keeps asking me for my password, which I supply correctly, and then gives "a general internet error has occured."
[15:36] <nasa> It wasn't.  The all option added my raid5 array, but not the raid0 array
[15:37] <\sh> sounds more like the controller doesn't like the raid signature
[15:38] <\sh> or the kernel doesn't know anything about raid5/raid0 support for this controller
[15:38] <stbain> greetings all
[15:39] <ivoks> \sh: kernel is aware of the disk (there is /dev/sdb)
[15:39] <ivoks> but it can't read it's size
[15:39] <ivoks> nasa: try, from parted
[15:39] <ivoks> nasa: parted /dev/sdb
[15:39] <Deeps> nothing out of fdisk -l ?
[15:40] <ivoks> nasa: mklabel gpt (this will/should remove everything on /dev/sdb)
[15:40] <ivoks> fdisk should also be capable reading partition sizes on disks < than 2TB
[15:40] <nasa> ivoks: it gives me the help menu....
[15:41] <ivoks> nasa: are you using custom kernel or stock ubuntu kernel?
[15:41] <ivoks> and which version of ubuntu?
[15:41] <Deeps> fdisk -l should list all disks, sizes and partition tables
[15:41] <\sh> ivoks, so something is fcked up with the device in general...mostly the raid is not fully builded...but raid controller gives back the info to the kernel about the two devices...
[15:41] <nasa> I'm using the stock ubuntu server kernel
[15:41] <nasa> The latest version
[15:41] <ivoks> \sh: but first device, raid5, works ok
[15:41] <nasa> ivoks: yes
[15:42] <nasa> I'm figuring that it works because I partitioned it on another card/system
[15:42] <\sh> ivoks, no it doesn't if nothing gets the size of the device...something is wrong there...bios of the controller, kernel driver or whatever it needs to get the real size
[15:42] <ivoks> nasa: could you reboot and enter controller's mngmnt bios?
[15:42] <ivoks> \sh: raid5 works, raid0 doesn't - there are two logical disks
[15:43] <\sh> ivoks, and building a raid on another controller is evil...
[15:43] <nasa> Yeah, what would I be looking for?
[15:43] <zul> mathiaz: for that openldap silently refuses to start when unable to open SSL certificates bug couldnt we do somehting like "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -64 [HINT: check your ssl certificates]"
[15:43] <ivoks> nasa: check if everything is ok :)
[15:44] <nasa> Yeah, I have checked the bios before and everything looks as it should
[15:44] <AtomicSpark> if you're using a raid controller, linux doesn't need to know anything about the raid. it shows it as a disk.
[15:44] <ivoks> nasa: well, maybe your controler doesn't like logical disks from another controller :)
[15:44] <AtomicSpark> well if you implement hardware raid like you're supposed to
[15:44] <ivoks> AtomicSpark: well, it need raid controller driver
[15:44] <AtomicSpark> oh. well that's true.
[15:44] <AtomicSpark> it doesn't have a driver? that's odd.
[15:45] <ivoks> it does...
[15:45] <nasa> No, it does have a driver and it seems to be working
[15:45] <AtomicSpark> ah. so what's the problem?
[15:45] <ivoks> driver 'sees' both logical disks
[15:45] <ivoks> but can't read size of the second logical disk
[15:45] <AtomicSpark> that's... interesting
[15:46] <\sh> rocketraid 2320?
[15:46] <nasa> Yeah
[15:46] <mathiaz> zul: you mean updating the bug description ?
[15:46] <AtomicSpark> did you make both at the same time? did you forget to initialize it?
[15:46] <ivoks> it's very important to note that first logical disk (which works) was transfered from another controller
[15:46] <\sh> aye...it's highpoint...
[15:46] <AtomicSpark> ah i see. maybe you did forget to initialize the drive :P
[15:46] <ivoks> nasa: could you disconnect first logical disk (well, all the disks in raid5), with only two disks from raid0 conneted?
[15:47] <ivoks> and then boot up server installation
[15:47] <ivoks> and check if you can see the disk
[15:47] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it didnt worked for me. how can i revert?
[15:47] <nasa> AtomicSpark: No, I did initialize the drives.  No, the 2 arrays were created at different times
[15:47] <zul> mathiaz: I mean updating the error message so its a bit less cryptic like they do in apache
[15:47] <ivoks> mistiipu: reading that from bottom up
[15:48] <AtomicSpark> mistiipu, buy a router, they're cheap ffs. :P
[15:48] <nasa> ivoks: you mean pull the sata cables for the raid5 array from the card and then try rebooting...?
[15:48] <ivoks> nasa: right
[15:48] <mathiaz> zul: well - I'd add a check to verify if the cert and key files can be read - and log an error if not
[15:48] <ivoks> nasa: but pull them out while computer is powered off :D
[15:49] <ivoks> mistiipu: there are two commands you need for internet sharing
[15:49] <\sh> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/rocketraid-2320-problem-fedora-8-615988/ ;)
[15:49] <nasa> ivoks: yeah, I can try that -- but it will be a while (server is in another room)
[15:49] <mistiipu> AtomicSpark hm
[15:49] <mistiipu> ivoks ic
[15:49] <mistiipu> ivoks which ones
[15:49] <mistiipu> ?
[15:50] <ivoks> mistiipu: first: echo "1" > proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[15:50] <\sh> hmm...rocketraid drivers are in ubuntu kernel?
[15:50] <mistiipu> ivoks and?
[15:50] <ivoks> mistiipu: second: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j XYZ -j MASQUERADE
[15:50] <ivoks> where XYZ is your WAN interface
[15:50] <mistiipu> ivoks i told you i followed that
[15:51] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it didnt worked
[15:51] <ivoks> mistiipu: well, you did something wrong, cause that works :)
[15:51] <zul> mathiaz: well yeah it does that already when it initalizes the tls context but that error message is cryptic I agree
[15:51] <mistiipu> ivoks may be i dont know how to make ip settings
[15:51] <nasa> \sh: no, I had to compile them
[15:51] <ivoks> mistiipu: you don't need any ip settings
[15:51] <\sh> nasa, aha
[15:51] <ivoks> just those two commands
[15:51] <mistiipu> ivoks well i did that. and the internet was not shared
[15:52] <\sh> nasa, well, following google this controller gives people more headaches then it helps
[15:52] <\sh> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-311723.html
[15:52] <ivoks> \sh: nasa maybe that controller supports only one logical disk
[15:52] <ivoks> cause, i was *very* surprised when I noticed that it is some kind of hardware raid :)
[15:53] <\sh> ivoks, it looks like it...raid5+raid0 no go..but raid5+2 disk is also dangerous to setup
[15:53] <nasa> ivoks: Nope, thier website clearly states it supports multiple logical disk
[15:53] <mathiaz> zul: where is this error message coming from ?
[15:53] <mistiipu> ivoks eth4 is for my dsl.   eth1  2 face 2 pcs
[15:53] <mathiaz> zul: is it from openldap or gnutls ?
[15:53] <mistiipu> nevermind. ill just buy a switch.
[15:53] <zul> mathiaz: openldap
[15:53] <ivoks> mistiipu: great, then XYZ is eth4
[15:54] <ivoks> and eth1->3 should have set up ip addresses
[15:54] <mistiipu> ivoks yes. i did exactly the same
[15:54] <mathiaz> zul: so it's just a matter of replacing the log message string.
[15:54] <\sh> nasa, where do you get that from?
[15:54] <zul> mathiaz: pretty much....not that hard to do
[15:54] <mistiipu> ivoks what settings should i do in eth 1 2 on server and what about clients?
[15:54] <mathiaz> zul: well - not sure - actually - there may be some other errors thrown by gnutls when initializing the context
[15:55] <ivoks> to make things easier: eth1: 192.168.1.1, eth2: 192.168.2.1
[15:55] <mathiaz> zul: ex a bad private key
[15:55] <ivoks> clients, first: 192.168.1.2, second: 192.168.2.2
[15:55] <mathiaz> zul: or the private key and the cert don't match
[15:55] <zul> true but that would be another error number
[15:55] <ivoks> router 192.168.[12].1
[15:55] <mathiaz> zul: right - I haven't looked at the code - but we should not log an error message about wrong permission if it's not the case
[15:56] <\sh> nasa, honestly I don't read anywhere from their specs that it supports 2 different raid modes
[15:56] <mistiipu> ivoks theres not router opton. just ip. netmask. broadcast. dns
[15:56] <\sh> I could think of that it support raid 0 + raid1 in general, but raid5 + raidX I don't think it works
[15:56] <ivoks> mistiipu: on clients? there must be router
[15:57] <mistiipu> ivoks windows clients. just dns. and default gw
[15:57] <nasa> \sh: Just a moment
[15:57] <zul> mahiaz: I agreee I was thinking something like "main: TLS init def ftx failed: <number> [HINT: Check SSL configuraton]"
[15:57] <ivoks> mistiipu: router=gateway
[15:57] <mistiipu> ivoks why it should be 12.1?
[15:57] <ivoks> for the love of god...
[15:57] <ivoks> 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.2.1
[15:58] <ivoks> 192.168.[12].1 was easier to write
[15:58] <mistiipu> oh ..
[15:58] <mistiipu> got it
[15:58] <mistiipu> dns?
[15:58]  * ogra wonders if god really loves 1 and 2 more than 12
[15:58] <ivoks> dns of your isp
[15:58] <nasa> \sh: go to http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ select support, then FAQ, then general SATA questions -- it's question #5
[15:58] <mistiipu> ivoks my isp?
[15:58] <mistiipu> ivoks my isp or my dsl router ip. 192.168.1.1
[15:58] <zul> ogra: well yess he does then it wouldnt be first or second in our hearts
[15:58] <ivoks> dns of your isp
[15:59] <ogra> heh
[15:59] <mistiipu> hm
[15:59] <ivoks> check /etc/resolv.conf on your ubuntu machine
[15:59] <ivoks> those are the two you need
[16:00] <mistiipu> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[16:00] <ivoks> so, your ubuntu is not the router
[16:00] <mathiaz> zul: could you check the return code of the TLS init def - and log an appropriate message if it's related to wrong permissions ?
[16:00] <\sh> nasa, aeh multiple raid arrays doesn't mean multiple arrays of different levels...
[16:00] <mistiipu> ivoks net mask?
[16:00] <mistiipu> ivoks no
[16:00] <ivoks> your ubuntu has another gateway
[16:00] <zul> mathiaz: sure
[16:01] <mistiipu> ivoks its my dsl modem router ip
[16:01] <mistiipu> ivoks net mask?
[16:01] <ivoks> mistiipu: uhh...
[16:02] <mistiipu> 255.255.255.0 for both
[16:02] <\sh> nasa, and you did disable the linux internel highpoint ide support?
[16:02] <ivoks> [adsl modem-192.168.1.1]->[ubuntu box 192.168.1.2]
[16:02] <zul> mathiaz: looks like that happens in  ldap_init_tls_init_ctx in libraries/libldap/tls.c
[16:03] <ivoks> client1 [ubnutu box 10.0.1.1]->[client1 10.0.1.2]
[16:03] <nasa> \sh: internel highpoint ide support?
[16:03] <\sh> internal ;)
[16:03] <ivoks> client2 [ubnutu box 10.0.2.1]->[client1 10.0.2.2]
[16:03] <ivoks> client3 [ubnutu box 10.0.3.1]->[client1 10.0.3.2]
[16:03]  * nasa needs to work on his typing...
[16:03] <\sh> nasa, faq -> linux -> topic 6
[16:04] <mistiipu> ivoks and while making the eth1 2 on the server i should set their ip to 192.168.(12).1  . right?
[16:04] <ivoks> mistiipu: you should really get familiar with networking basics if you want to set up network
[16:04] <\sh> nasa, but the most convinient way is to call highpoint support and ask if it's really possible to have raid5+raid0 mixed on the controller
[16:05] <mistiipu> ivoks well i did al that. but it didnt worked. not even pinged. i desabled firewall and it did pinged but no internet still
[16:05] <ivoks> mistiipu: no, set them to 10.0.[12].1
[16:05] <ivoks> cause your ruter already has 192.168.1.1
[16:05] <ivoks> you can't have your computer on that address too
[16:05] <ivoks> it won't know where to route packages
[16:05] <ivoks> packets
[16:06] <mistiipu> ivoks actually i set them eth1 to 192.168.0.1 (server)  192.168.0.2 (client)      .11.1  and .11.2 for eth2
[16:06] <ivoks> ok, great
[16:06] <mistiipu> ivoks well i did al that. but it didnt worked. not even pinged. i desabled firewall and it did pinged but no internet still
[16:06] <nasa> \sh: I will have to do that
[16:06] <ivoks> mistiipu: cause you didn't set up dns
[16:07] <mistiipu> on client side. i set dns as 192.168.1.1
[16:07] <ivoks> mistiipu: dns is 192.168.1.1
[16:07] <mistiipu> :) ^
[16:07] <mistiipu> and gw as as .0.1 and .11.1
[16:07] <mistiipu> on clients side ^
[16:07] <ivoks> right
[16:08] <Deeps> can you ping 64.233.183.99 on any of your clients?
[16:08] <mistiipu> and it didnt shared internet. only clint was able to ping when server firewall was off
[16:08] <mistiipu> Deeps i cant open an site from clients.
[16:08] <ivoks> what server firewall?
[16:08] <mistiipu> firestarter
[16:08] <\sh> ok...heading home
[16:08] <nasa> bbl: after I talk with highpoint....
[16:08] <ivoks> uh...
[16:09] <Deeps> mistiipu: thats not what i asked
[16:09] <ivoks> mistiipu: kill all firewalls on all computers
[16:09] <mistiipu> ivoks i disabled fs
[16:09] <mistiipu> stoped*
[16:09] <mistiipu> Deeps no.
[16:10] <ivoks> mistiipu: are you sure iptables tables were empty? i'm not.
[16:10] <Deeps> sounds like either ip forwarding isn't enabled, or it's not natting
[16:10] <ivoks> you can't stop firewall
[16:10] <ivoks> you can set it up or flush it, you can't stop it
[16:10] <mistiipu> ivoks hm.
[16:10] <mistiipu> so . then
[16:10] <mistiipu> ?
[16:10] <ivoks> did you set everything up?
[16:11] <mistiipu> i should add rules in firewal to allow 192.168.*.* ?
[16:11] <mistiipu> yes
[16:11] <ivoks> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:11] <ivoks> what does it return?
[16:11] <mistiipu> wel it would do 1
[16:11] <ivoks> 0 or 1?
[16:11] <mistiipu> but i reverted it
[16:12]  * Deeps grins
[16:12] <mistiipu> ivoks if you say so . ill give a second try
[16:12] <ivoks> go to computer with ip 11.2
[16:12] <ivoks> and ping 192.168.11.1
[16:12] <mistiipu> k
[16:12] <mistiipu> it pings when fire s is stoped
[16:12] <ivoks> i repeat, kill/stop/flush/disable all firewalls on all computers
[16:12] <mistiipu> just a min
[16:13] <mistiipu> i reverted all settings. which 2 comands you said i want to use for sharing?
[16:13] <mistiipu> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE
[16:13] <ivoks> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth4 -j MASQUERADE
[16:13] <mistiipu> and?
[16:13] <ivoks> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:14] <mistiipu> $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:14] <mistiipu> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[16:14] <mistiipu> user1@computer1:~$ echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:14] <mistiipu> 1
[16:14] <ivoks> ok
[16:14] <mistiipu> cool?
[16:14] <mistiipu> ok
[16:14] <mistiipu> now
[16:14] <ivoks> now ping 11.1 and 0.1
[16:15] <mistiipu> from serveR?
[16:15] <mistiipu> ops.
[16:15] <mistiipu> sory.
[16:15]  * mistiipu going to the clients
[16:15] <ivoks> no, from clients
[16:17] <mistiipu> no
[16:17] <mistiipu> it dont pings
[16:18] <mistiipu> if i click on 'stop' at firestarter. it does pings. but no internet ivoks
[16:18] <ivoks> well, then you didn't setup IP addresses correctly
[16:18] <ivoks> i give up
[16:18] <ivoks> i've told you three times to stop all firewalles on all computers
[16:20] <mistiipu> server ip. 192.168.0.1 maskt 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255   .        client 192.168.0.2  mask 255.255.255.0  def gw 192.168.0.1   dns 192.168.1.1
[16:20] <ivoks> the thing is that firestarter flushes and disables masquerading
[16:21] <mistiipu> hm.. really ?
[16:21] <ivoks> as i said, there's not 'stoping firestarter' - there's only flushing
[16:21] <ivoks> and since you flused your iptables, it doesn't masquerade
[16:21] <mistiipu> so what can be done?
[16:21] <mistiipu> i uninstall fs?
[16:21] <ivoks> anybody?
[16:21] <mistiipu> anybody?
[16:22] <mistiipu> what
[16:22] <mistiipu> should i uninstall fs?
[16:22] <mistiipu> ivoks
[16:23] <ivoks> mistiipu: you should do what i told you couple of times - disable firewall
[16:23] <ronnieredd> i just got here - what's wrong?
[16:23] <ivoks> after you do that, then start setting up everyting
[16:23] <zul> mathiaz: something like this http://pastebin.com/d49d2a5e
[16:26] <ronnieredd> U have a rule setup for LDAP in fs?
[16:26] <mistiipu_> ivoks sory i was disconected
[16:26] <mistiipu_> so ?
[16:29] <mistiipu_> ivoks you there
[16:30] <ivoks> mistiipu_: i'm not sure what else i could tell you?
[16:30] <mistiipu_> ok. should i remove firesaterter?
[16:30] <ivoks> just disable it or stop it or whatever
[16:30] <mathiaz> zul: hmm... I wouldn't put in DEBUG level
[16:30] <ivoks> run those two commands and it will work
[16:30] <mathiaz> zul: it's at least an warning, if not an error.
[16:31] <mistiipu_> ivoks ok. what do you think can be wrong
[16:31] <zul> ok Ill change that
[16:32] <ivoks> mistiipu_: nothing is wrong,
[16:32] <mistiipu_> then why isnt it working
[16:33] <ivoks> did you disable firewall?
[16:33] <ivoks> can you ping server from clients?
[16:35] <mistiipu_> yes
[16:35] <mistiipu_> yes
[16:36] <ivoks> great, can you ping 192.168.1.1 now?
[16:36] <ivoks> from clients
[16:36] <mistiipu_> no. let me check
[16:36] <mistiipu_> i just pinged 0/11.1
[16:37] <ivoks> ping 1.1 (or whatever is you ADSL modem)
[16:37] <zul> mathiaz: I changed it to a fprintf and it goes to stderr
[16:38] <mistiipu_> ivoks i cant ping 1.1
[16:38] <mistiipu_> ivoks it gives me a dhcp ip. does that had to do with anything?
[16:38] <ivoks> ok
[16:39] <ivoks> no
[16:39] <mistiipu_> k
[16:39] <ivoks> now, on server, check:
[16:39] <ivoks> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[16:39] <mistiipu_> 0 :(
[16:40] <ivoks> change to 1
[16:40] <mistiipu_> done
[16:40] <mistiipu_> now
[16:40] <mistiipu_> ?
[16:40] <ivoks> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE
[16:41] <ivoks> where X is interface connected to modem
[16:41] <mistiipu_> done
[16:41] <ivoks> now try pinging 192.168.1.1
[16:41] <ivoks> from clients
[16:42] <mistiipu_> nop
[16:42] <mistiipu_> no ping
[16:42] <mistiipu_> it only pings to 0.1
[16:42] <ivoks> what's the interface that gets ip from modem's dhcp?
[16:43] <ivoks> you said eth4, that means you have 5 network cards in computer... :)
[16:44] <mistiipu_> working
[16:44] <mistiipu_> i think its browsing. but not pinging 1.1
[16:44] <mistiipu_> and there was a message some time ago
[16:44] <mistiipu_> let me copy that
[16:47] <mistiipu_> Server Error in '/' Application.
[16:47] <mistiipu_> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[16:47] <mistiipu_> Runtime Error
[16:47] <mistiipu_> Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.
[16:47] <mistiipu_> now its working fine
[16:47] <mistiipu_> but not pinging 1.1

[16:48] <mistiipu_>     <system.web>
[16:48] <mistiipu_>         <customErrors mode="Off"/>
[16:48] <mistiipu_>     </system.web>

[16:48] <ivoks> stop flooding the channel
[16:48] <nealmcb> !paste
[16:51] <mistiipu_> sory
[16:52] <mistiipu_>      -------     ivoks    -----      rocks !!
[16:52] <mistiipu_> thanks !
[16:52] <mistiipu_> every thing seems working....
[16:52] <mistiipu_> ivoks should i give you a bit of more head ache?
[16:53] <ivoks> no
[16:54] <mistiipu_> ivoks i think i need tc command. i read the man. but it gave me headaches.         i need eth1+eth2=20k/s dl limit and 4k upload       and i dont want any eth user to consume all the trafic (while both eth1 and eth2 are online) and drain bandwidth from the other. any help?
[17:02] <mistiipu_> ivoks i need a firewall firestarter. i only get internet while its desabled. any solution?
[17:30] <hotmonkeyluv> when installing server 8.04, if I select NO to to: "install grub to MBR" do I get to choose a location to install it to, or does it just not get installed?
[17:31] <Deeps> heh, where else would you install it to?
[17:31] <hotmonkeyluv> i dunno
[17:31] <Deeps> grub being a bootloader
[17:31] <hotmonkeyluv> well, I have an ide drive and 4 scsi drives
[17:32] <hotmonkeyluv> and I think it boots to the ide drive
[17:32] <hotmonkeyluv> and I installed it on a scsi
[17:32] <Deeps> ah
[17:32] <ogra> you can install grub into a partition indeed
[17:32] <hotmonkeyluv> ok!
[17:32] <ogra> doesnt need to be mbr
[17:32] <hotmonkeyluv> thanks
[17:32]  * Deeps takes notes
[17:32] <ogra> but i forgot if you get a selection
[17:33] <ogra> its years ago that i did that last time :)
[17:33] <hotmonkeyluv> you do
[17:33] <hotmonkeyluv> have to enter it manually though
[17:33] <ogra> and indeed there needs to be something in the mbr that chainlodas
[17:33]  * hotmonkeyluv forgot which drives are which...
[17:34] <hotmonkeyluv> chainload?
[17:36] <hotmonkeyluv> yay! it workeded!!!1!
[17:36] <hotmonkeyluv> thank you Deeps and ogra
[17:36] <Deeps> thank ogra, we both learnt from him hehe
[17:37] <AtomicSpark> the pro of grub is that it does NOT have to be the MBR :P
[17:37] <hotmonkeyluv> yes
[17:37] <hotmonkeyluv> thankfully
[17:37] <ogra> but *something* needs to be in the mbr to call (chainload) the grub from the partition
[17:38] <hotmonkeyluv> I just installed it to the mbr on my IDE drive
[17:38] <hotmonkeyluv> and it works ok
[17:39] <hotmonkeyluv> but now i'm late for work
[17:39] <hotmonkeyluv> bbl
[18:07] <babolat> i did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and i'm stuck at Installing Packages | Please wait | 0%
[18:08] <babolat> is this normal and it just takes long to install, or is something wrong? it's been like this for like half an hour or so
[18:08] <dury> hi there channel :)
[18:09] <dury> anyone has phpmyadmin installed?
[18:09] <dury> can't login
[18:10] <dury> could anyone assist me to login
[18:10] <babolat> i did sudo tasksel install lamp-server and i'm stuck at Installing Packages | Please wait | 0%
[18:10] <babolat> is this normal and it just takes long to install, or is something wrong? it's been like this for like half an hour or so
[18:11] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ?
[18:12]  * delcoyote hi
[18:13] <dury> in this url http://localhost/phpmyadmin/index.php I login as root but it said = Error
[18:13] <dury> #1045 - Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[18:14] <mistiipu> ogra you there?
[18:15] <dury> could anyone drive me what should I do, please?
[18:15] <mistiipu> \sh ?
[18:19] <dury> that's phpMyAdmin 2.10.3deb1ubuntu0.2
[18:19] <dury> there is no way to login
[18:20] <dury> maybe i missed a package
[18:20] <sommer> dury: you could try this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[18:21] <sommer> dury: you need to use a mysql user to login... when you installed mysql it should have prompted you to set the root password
[18:23] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ? 2nd it was sharing internet. i rebooted all pcs. and its not sharing now. why so?
[18:24] <dennister> ok, i'm pretty frustrated with trying to install samba server here; no matter what i do I get:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[18:25] <dennister> this is a thread in the forums, but no fix yet that I can find...anybody got any ideas?
[18:26] <dury> sommer: didn't realize a mysql user to login when I installed, how can I do one?
[18:28] <dury> sommer: could assist or help to fix it please, I would really appreciate it
[18:28] <sommer> dury: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[18:29] <sommer> dury: should ask you to set the root password
[18:29] <dury> sommer: hang on
[18:32] <dury> sommer: great supporter!!! success
[18:32] <dennister> anyone got any idea how to fix samba installation? (will NOT give anything but a half-configuration)
[18:33] <sommer> dury: party!
[18:33] <sommer> dennister: how are you installing samba?
[18:34] <dury> sommer: you know..... I really appreciate your help and support.... believe me :)
[18:34] <dennister> sommer: every possible way i know actually :-) repos, cdrom, apt-get, aptitude...
[18:34] <dennister> always the same non-result
[18:34] <dury> sommer: party, mate! :)
[18:35] <sommer> dennister: can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get install samba
[18:35] <sommer> dury: you're welcome :)
[18:35] <dennister> !pastebein
[18:35] <dennister> !pastebin
[18:35] <sommer> !paste
[18:35] <dury> sommer: thank you so much
[18:35] <sommer> dury: no problem
[18:37] <dennister> sommer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10984/
[18:38] <sommer> dennister: can you paste the output of: dpkg -l | grep samba
[18:39] <ogra> and do you have an old smb.conf lying around ? and is there anything in daemon.log (or any samba logfile) that would explain why it cant start ?
[18:39] <sommer> ogra: good call :)
[18:39] <dennister> sommer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10985/
[18:40] <ogra> thats a recent hardy version
[18:40] <dennister> ogra: actually, there probably are...was reading about this in launchpad, so i located them all, removed them, and still got the same problems
[18:40] <sommer> dennister: does sudo apt-get -f install give you the same error?
[18:41] <dennister> ogra: yes, and hardy's driving me totally bokers
[18:41] <dennister> sommer: yes
[18:42] <dennister> don't want to be negative, as i'm a big fan of all my previous versions, but hardy is a huge disappointment
[18:42] <sommer> dennister: do you have a backup of you old configs?
[18:42] <dennister> sommer: nope, cause i wanted to purge them
[18:43] <dennister> been purging nonstop witht this samba issue, but like i said, nothing helps
[18:43] <sommer> dennister: gotcha, you might try purging samba dpkg -P samba samba-common then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install samba
[18:44] <sommer> dennister: also, as ogra said are there any messages in /var/log/syslog related to samba?
[18:44] <ogra> tail /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[18:44] <matrix> i need source list
[18:44] <matrix> for netharland
[18:44] <sommer> dennister: ^^ that too
[18:45] <dennister> sommer: tried your method of purging, but I'm told i can't purge samba-common
[18:45] <dennister> too many dependencies
[18:46] <sommer> mmm, is this a server install?
[18:46] <dury> sommer: if I logged in in phpmyadmin It means that I have apache, php and mysql installed.. is it right?
[18:46] <sommer> dury: heh, yep... that's a fair statement :)
[18:47] <sommer> dennister: just try purging samba then
[18:48] <dury> sommer: what you mean with a "fair statement", (sorry to ask you that)
[18:48] <dennister> will look in the var/log/syslog in a minute...but there are actually only 4 dependencies for samba-common: smbclient, smbfs, winbind, and libpam-smbpass
[18:48] <mistiipu> i followed http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html and its working. but only when firestarter is disabled. why so and how can i share internet while firestater is running ? 2nd it was sharing internet. i rebooted all pcs. and its not sharing now. why so?
[18:48] <dennister> how about if I remove all of them, and then get them back later?
[18:48] <sommer> dennister: ya, I'd try purging them... you can always reinstall them
[18:49] <dennister> ok, i will, since I have the list
[18:49] <sommer> dury: woops didn't mean to be confusing... yes, you have php with apache and mysql
[18:51] <mistiipu> \sh ?
[18:51] <mistiipu> ogra you there?
[18:51] <dury> sommer: do you know how to install WordpressMU http://mu.wordpress.org/
[18:52] <mistiipu> blue-frog_ any one?
[18:52] <ogra> mistiipu, sorry no clue about firestarter
[18:52] <ogra> i never touched it
[18:52] <sommer> dury: I've never actually installed it myself, but it should be similar... if you search help.ubuntu.com there's probably a guide
[18:52] <mistiipu> k
[18:53] <blue-frog_> mistiipu: certainly because you did an ip forward which has been lost at reboot
[18:53] <dennister> sommer: ok, done the purging, updated slocate, no versions of smb.conf left
[18:54] <mistiipu> blue-frog_ it will be lost on every reboot?
[18:54] <blue-frog_> mistiipu: you need to tweak /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:54] <sommer> dennister: what about /var/lib/samba?
[18:54] <sommer> dennister: it shouldn't be there
[18:54] <mistiipu> blue-frog_ what about firestarter
[18:54] <dennister> just tried apt-get samba, and it wants to reinstall samba-common, which I believe is causing all the problems
[18:54] <blue-frog_> mistiipu: don't know
[18:54] <sommer> dennister: that's expected
[18:54] <mistiipu> blue-frog_ # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
[18:54] <mistiipu> net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[18:55] <dennister> sommer: no, var/lib/samba isn't there
[18:55] <blue-frog_> mistiipu: yes
[18:55] <dennister> but shouldn't i install the other dependencies, too, the four that i just removed?...
[18:56] <mistiipu> blue-frog_ its already unmounted
[18:56] <dennister> oh...and Important detail: i got fed up with repos version, so i commented all of them out and am only using the original cdrom
[18:56] <dennister> at least it installed that way last week when I built this server
[18:56] <ogra> there were no updates to samba since release
[18:56] <ogra> so that is fine
[18:57] <ogra> dennister, grep RUN_MODE /etc/default/samba
[18:57] <sommer> dennister: you should be able to install samba and samba-common without those other packages
[18:57] <dennister> ok, so now reinstall samba, samba-common, and leave out those other four dependecies?
[18:57] <sommer> dennister: for now yes
[18:58]  * ogra wonders if dennister's samba is set to inetd mode
[18:59] <sommer> ogra: good question
[18:59] <dennister> ogra: i just tried your grep command, and it said "no such file or directory"; i believe the ONLY mention of samba i've now got is the empty /var/log/samba directory (I removed them manually)
[18:59] <dury> sommer: how to make sure that the line  "LoadModule rewrite_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_rewrite.so" appears in httpd.conf
[18:59] <dennister> will now try reinstalling only samba and samba-common
[18:59] <ogra> dennister, right, and then check the /var/log/samba files for errors
[18:59] <sommer> dury: use sudo a2enmod rewrite... and you should be good to go
[19:00]  * sommer goes to meeting bbl
[19:01] <dennister> hey, i got some success!...not completely satisfied with some of the "uint32 failed" messages, but the daemons started
[19:02] <ogra> is that an amd64 you are installing on ?
[19:02] <dennister> ogra: no, gave up on amd64 OS's a long time ago
[19:03] <dennister> ogra: only samba-common didn't install properly this time...will pastebin
[19:04] <dennister> ogra: could you take a look at my results while I take 5 minutes for a cig outside? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10989/
[19:05] <ogra> i/me sits outside smoking :)
[19:08] <ogra> dennister, try: touch /etc/libuser.conf
[19:08] <ogra> and see if the errors go away
[19:08] <ogra> (shot in the dark, i'm by no means a samba expert or even user :) )
[19:09] <dury> sommer: I've checked in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/ and there is mod_rewrite.so
[19:13] <ogra> dennister, ah, no thats nothing, dont try the touch, google indicates it has something to do with the password db in /var/lib/samba apparently
[19:16] <dennister> ogra: ty, so much...will only reinstall the dependencies I'd removed if I run into problems
[19:17] <ogra> good luck :)
[19:25] <cody-somerville> How much better is slapd in Hardy then Gutsy?
[19:29] <ogra> cody-somerville, 32.4%
[19:29] <zul> ogra: why do low? :)
[19:30] <cody-somerville> A saner question: Is the version in Gutsy like "omgz, upgrade before you ask me a question!" or is it decent enough to use? :P
[19:30] <ogra> i probably didnt measure really precisely, there is a tolerance of about 7%
[19:32] <zul> cody-somerville: its the next best thing since slice bread :)
[19:37] <cody-somerville> How about ebox? :P
[19:41] <zul> its good I know some people are using it
[19:57] <cody-somerville> gah!
[19:57] <cody-somerville> varrun                316M  316M     0 100% /var/run
[19:57] <cody-somerville> : /
[19:57] <peanuter> I am going to install vserver on my dapper server.  I have the wiki up and have read it completely.  was just wondering if there are any suggestions before I start.
[19:58] <sTiVo> I have mysql running on ubuntu but it can only be seen from localhost.  what do I have to change to open port 3306 to the LAN?
[19:59] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: how did you manage to fill that one? :-O
[19:59] <cody-somerville> Nafallo, mysql replication server probably
[19:59] <cody-somerville> How do I make it bigger then 316mb? :(
[19:59] <cody-somerville> /var/run is slowly running out on the other server too
[19:59] <cody-somerville> well, not so slowly
[20:00] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: /etc/fstab
[20:00] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: move it to a filesystem or something
[20:00] <cody-somerville> /etc/fstab doesn't have anything about /var/run :(
[20:01] <Nafallo> oh. it doesn't.
[20:01] <Nafallo> try adding something :-)
[20:02] <sTiVo> any mysql-knowledgeable people here?
[20:03] <sTiVo> how do I expose a mysql database to the LAN?  what config file needs to be changed?
[20:06] <Navop> Following the Perfect Server step, i'm at the section /etc/init.d/bind9 start and I get an error, can someone help me out plz?
[20:06] <sommer> sTiVo: change the bind-address parameter in /etc/mysql/my.cnf to the IP of your NIC
[20:06] <Nafallo> Navop: not without knowing the error
[20:06] <sommer> sTiVo: then restart mysql with /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[20:06] <Navop> Nafallo where can i see the error,
[20:07] <Nafallo> Navop: well... you just said "and I get an error". you tell me :-)
[20:08] <Navop> actually when i do the start at the end of the line i get a [fail]?
[20:08] <Nafallo> tail /var/log/syslog to see why
[20:09] <Navop> thier already--> i get permission denied
[20:09] <Navop> in the syslog
[20:10] <Nafallo> not sure what you mean by that. are you saying you can't view the syslog?
[20:11] <Navop> no in syslog :none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: permission denied
[20:12] <Navop> also  loading configuration: permission denied
[20:13] <Navop> going to retry the steps
[20:15] <Nafallo> there you go then.
[20:15] <Nafallo> -rw-r----- 1 root bind 1611 2007-07-15 14:10 /etc/bind/named.conf
[20:16] <Navop> trying to stop the bind process and I get this : rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[20:16] <Nafallo> should be because it never started :-0
[20:16] <Nafallo> :-)
[20:16] <Navop> k thanks
[20:21] <donspaulding> are there any known problems with postfix on 8.04?
[20:22] <peanuter> i am unable to install linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-11-vserver-generic and apt-cache doesn't have it.  i have modified the sourcelist as documented and apt-get update'd
[20:22] <peanuter> any suggestions?
[20:23] <lamont> donspaulding: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=postfix is a pretty comprehensive list of all the outstanding issues, esp when combined with the launchpad page
[20:23] <lamont> OTOH, I should go through and clean those up
[20:24] <peanuter> ahhhh dpkg.u32.net/ubuntu is not updating odd
[20:25] <peanuter> anyone know of another repository that has linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-vserver-generic
[20:27] <peanuter> Ign http://dpkg.u32.net edgy/vserver Packages
[20:27] <peanuter> Ign http://dpkg.u32.net edgy/vserver Sources
[20:32] <melter> anyone know why "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" isn't storing the email address i specify for the root account?
[20:37] <lamont> melter: without looking at the postinst, I think it won't write it if there's already an alias for root in /etc/aliases
[20:42] <melter> lamont, there already is a /etc/aliases file, but i assumed it would make the changes i specify. who owns /etc/aliases? i don't see it listed in "dpkg -S aliases"
[20:44] <lamont> $MTA owns it. :-(
[20:44] <mistiipu>  iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[20:45] <lamont> melter: not sure but what it didn't add a second root: entry in /etc/aliases???  in which case, the first one would win
[20:46] <melter> it didn't do anything, but i'm going to remove the aliases file and reconfigure just to see what happens
[20:47] <lamont> cool
[20:47]  * lamont will see about looking at it later this week (end)
[20:48] <melter> lamont, that works
[20:48] <lamont> but generally, postfix has had a lot of fun dealing with not overwriting changes made outside of debconf with non-changes in debconf wiht ...
[20:48] <lamont> melter: if you can get it down to what/when it does it wrong, please file a bug with the details, and what you expect should have happened instead of what did.
[20:48] <melter> lamont, ok
[20:49] <lamont> thanks
[20:57] <mistiipu>  iam following http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html done for eth1 (client) eth4 dsl connection. http://pastebin.com/m4bdf9f3a i configured for eth1 and its not working itself. link is up on client. but a cross on computer connection on server.       instead eth2 is working fine.  any help please ???
[21:00] <good_dana> i'm having trouble with a majordomo mailing list, i created a new list and EVERY message gets an NDR that says: "The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address."
[21:10] <mistiipu> how to limit bandwith for an ip or eth interface by tc comand?
[21:37] <mistiipu>  how to simply limit 192.168.0.3 to 15kb/s ?
 or how to simply limit eth2 to 15kb/s ?
[21:37] <mistiipu>  how to simply limit 192.168.0.3 to 15kb/s ?
 or how to simply limit eth2 to 15kb/s ?
[21:38] <Deeps> mistiipu: http://lartc.org/
[21:39] <peanuter> sudo apt-get install linux-vserver-image-2.6.17-vserver-generic
[21:39] <peanuter> excuse me pasted the same thing again by mistake
[21:40] <peanuter> is there a good alternative to vserver?
[21:41] <peanuter> since i am unable to get the linux kernel image
[21:42] <_ZeuZ_> Any news on QoS?
[21:48] <_ZeuZ_> Any place where ISPs can chat?
[21:54] <mistiipu> what wil this do        tc qdisc add dev eth0 root tbf rate 15kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000   ?
[21:56] <_ZeuZ_> it would add the default qdisc for the interface eth0 with the tbf protocol at a range of 15kbps and the other is the buffers limit I guess
[21:58] <_ZeuZ_> mistiipu, it would add the default qdisc for the interface eth0 with the tbf protocol at a range of 15kbps and the other is the buffers limit I guess
[22:05] <mistiipu> i did           sudo tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 12kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000        is it 12kb/s or 12 kbps   (it seems 12kbps on a trafic knemo chart) ?
[22:05] <erimar77> need help with 8.04 server bacula-director-pgsql
[22:05] <erimar77> http://pastebin.com/m53a8a22d
[22:05] <erimar77> it seems to fail on the postinstall script
[22:33] <nealmcb> erimar77: did you look at /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf ?
[22:37] <erimar77> nealmcb: look at it for what
[22:38] <erimar77> since the installation fails, the postgres database does not get setup
[22:44] <nealmcb> erimar77: I know little about bacula, but simply noted that the error mentions that file.  does it exist on your system?  is is something you need to set up?
[22:44] <melter> lamont, i just filed a bug for the postfix thing
[22:45] <melter> #228391
[22:47] <erimar77> melter: when you install bacula with apt-get it runs a postinstall script from /var/lib/dpgk/bacula and that file is messed up
[22:47] <erimar77> melter: sorry wrong person
[22:48] <erimar77> nealmcb: that was to you
[22:57] <ajmitch> hm, I hope he filed a bug for that bacula issue
[23:10] <gregbrady> Why is it in Open Office Calc that when I try to open a file via sftp, I am asked for my password a couple of times and then get a "General Internet Error"?  Is it not possible to work on a file remotely via sftp?
[23:28] <AtomicSpark> if i want to host an intranet website on my server, do i need more then LAMP? it seems to resolve to the hostname, but i think it's a bit buggy.
[23:29] <AtomicSpark> ubuntu think's its on a domain (which it isn't). should i install DNS too and then make an A record for the server?
[23:30] <nealmcb> AtomicSpark: it will help a lot to show us specific commands and error messages
[23:30] <nealmcb> ﻿Guide to asking questions on IRC: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[23:31] <AtomicSpark> nealmcb, no error messages. just trying to set up drupal. the server doesn't have dns or mail installed so answering questions like "what's the administrator email" is kindof pointless.
[23:31] <nealmcb> coffeedude: are you coming to prague for uds?
[23:32] <coffeedude> nealmcb: ah.....I was planning to but am going to bail at the last minute.  Had some travel this week and more deadlines next.  Just a bit too much travel to handle right now.  Actually hadn't mailed Rick yet.  I should do  that now
[23:33] <nealmcb> AtomicSpark: ahh - drupal - adding the "mail-server" task with tasksel might be helpful, at least to send local mail or use a smarthost.  you should be able to use some other machine for dns
[23:33] <nealmcb> coffeedude: we'll miss you!
[23:34] <nealmcb> coffeedude: so what should we do to improve stuff in intrepid?
[23:34] <AtomicSpark> nealmcb, i figured i could use the mail server just for outgoing messages.
[23:34] <nealmcb> (what do you have up your sleeves?) :-)
[23:34] <AtomicSpark> nealmcb, i'm just wondering if having the server at a fakedomain.local (which i put during the install) will mess with anything.
[23:35] <AtomicSpark> right now i'm using openDNS for our network.
[23:35] <coffeedude> nealmcb: Main this I'll be interested in is improving File/Print services (Samba).  I'll have to spend some time
[23:35] <coffeedude> nealmcb: putting some ideas together.
[23:36] <AtomicSpark> off subject, what is keeping track of all the hostnames. the router?
[23:37] <AtomicSpark> hmm. it appears it can only resolve the server. must just be in arp cache.
[23:37] <nealmcb> coffeedude: much appreciated :-)
[23:37] <coffeedude> nealmcb: what day does UDS start (not FOSS) ?
[23:37] <coffeedude> next week right ?
[23:38] <mathiaz> coffeedude: UDS starts monday May 19th
[23:38] <mathiaz> coffeedude: FOOSCAMP starts on thursday May 15th, ie next week
[23:38] <coffeedude> mathiaz: Thanks.  So one week away then.
[23:40] <nealmcb> coffeedude: ...depending on the slew in your clock rates - "items on the calendar are closer than they seem"   :-)
[23:43] <coffeedude> nealmcb: True.  very true
[23:43] <nealmcb> AtomicSpark: you can use /etc/hosts, or some other dns server, to map names to addresses
[23:44] <nealmcb> coffeedude: :-)
[23:47]  * nealmcb hates having to log out for silly unix group management - when are we gonna fix that?
[23:50] <ajmitch> nealmcb: depends, how many POSIX assumptions have to be thrown out?
[23:51] <nealmcb> :-/
[23:51] <AtomicSpark> nealmcb, funny. i don't see where it asked for the domain during the install. i must of been seeing things.
[23:51] <nealmcb> ajmitch: or what other authn mechanicms can be used for e.g. libvirt