/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/05/09/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* nixternal is getting kind of nervous getting ready to perform his final business analysis presentation00:41
DaSkreech:-)00:42
DaSkreechBuck up!00:42
nixternalhehe00:43
DaSkreechImagine they are the cubs and you are trying to convince them to come over to your house and autograph your walls00:43
nixternalthis is huge00:43
nixternalit is 75% of my final grade00:43
DaSkreechare you ready?00:44
nixternalalways ready00:45
DaSkreechThen Pwn them :)00:45
nixternalhehe00:46
* DaSkreech gives nixternal a shirt that read PWNED Back: Like KDE4 Vs Win9500:49
Seregapython-kde4 package has inconsistent Homepage field00:52
stdinthey changed their entire site recently, bug report + patch please :)00:54
Seregastdin: may I just patch? ;)00:54
Seregastdin: more - I found a bug in pykde4 itself and willing to fix it now as it blocks my gdebi-kde400:55
Seregawill I be able to upload such fix to hardy updates?00:55
* Serega will send the patch to upstream too os course00:56
stdinprobably, that's where bug fixes should go00:56
Seregawoohoo00:56
JontheEchidnaTurns out all of these KDE 4.0.4 regressions aren't KDE's fault, they're Qt's.01:00
JontheEchidnahttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/22843201:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228432 in ubuntu "kde 4.0.4 got conflicts with Qt 4.4" [Undecided,New]01:01
* Serega wonders when ubotu have got the double 't' in his name01:02
stdinSerega: when the operator of ubotu decided to abruptly leave and kill ubotu01:13
Seregaubutu died long live ubottu! :)01:14
Seregas/ubutu/ubotu/01:15
stdinnot only does it live, put I've patched the hell out of it :p01:16
stdinand learnt python in the process01:16
nosrednaekimyes! Project Neon rocKs!01:50
JontheEchidna+101:50
vorianjdavies: done :)02:41
* vorian waves02:41
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Tm_Tinteresting, I can't find any information about KDM, when it doesn't apply settings, or rather, kcontrol module doesn't save settings to the right place apparently07:49
Tm_Tand I don't know where it does save them07:49
sebbarhi, will there be a kde3 version of the next kubuntu or was hardy the last one?09:33
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buzi think some update last night or this morning (Europe) broke lyx, i know it was working yesterday morning09:54
buznow it segfaults09:54
\shbuz, hardy?09:54
buzwith -updates and -proposed09:55
\shoh -proposed...09:55
buzfigured its best to report it before it goes any further :P09:55
buzhave not seen any other ill effects so far, though09:56
\shi don't see any uploads to -proposed from yesterday...only -security09:56
buzwell i obviously have security active as well09:56
\shsorry..only linux-restricted-modules and envyng-core09:56
\shin -proposed09:56
\shbuz, but even in -security nothing kde related or tex related09:57
buzthen why did it stop working09:57
buzlemme see maybe i got the timeframe wrong09:57
buzsorry, must have broken in the past 40h, not 24h09:57
\shbuz, ok kdebase in -proposed09:58
\shbuz, kdebase 3.5.9 that is09:58
buzlyx does not link against kde IIRC09:58
buznope does not09:58
buzqt only09:58
\shno...no qt upload to -proposed/-security/-updates09:59
buznow i am confused09:59
* \sh <--- gone ----> meeting09:59
buzthere was an apparmor upgrade10:01
buz2008-05-08 07:45:33 install libqtcore4 <none> 4.4.0-1ubuntu1~hardy110:02
buzthat's weird10:02
buzthat's the qt 4.4.0 upgrade10:02
buzso much for no qt upgrade :P10:02
buzlets see if rebuilding lyx helps...10:03
buzrecompiling does not seem to help10:28
\shbuz, that's backport10:51
\shbuz, -proposed, -updates, -security doesn't have any ~<distro> tag behind the package revision10:52
Riddellvorian: poke poke11:27
ArbyRiddell: thanks for all the uploads, just seen the flurry of e-mails11:28
Riddellseems some got rejected when I first uploaded them11:29
vorianheya Riddell11:30
Riddellvorian: was looking at your 9MB torrent-kde4 patch11:31
Riddellktorrent-kde411:31
vorian:D11:31
vorianit is bigggg11:31
Riddellvorian: if it's a new upstream probably best to make the diff against the current .orig.tar and upload the .orig.tar too11:32
Riddell"Fix infinite loop in DHT code" where is that fix?11:32
Riddell"Limits (and control dialogue) fix" likewise11:32
vorianOK, I can do that11:32
vorianin the upstream changelog11:33
Riddellah, right, I see11:33
vorianI will resubmit the diff this afternoon11:34
Riddellvorian: also it should be merged with debian, they have 3.1~beta1+dfsg.1-1 in experimental11:35
RiddellI expect we could just sync that11:35
vorianhmmm, interesting11:35
Riddelloh, no11:36
Riddelldifferent name11:36
Riddellbut that's probably the only change11:36
vorianI'll work on a merge for it then, this afternoon :)11:37
Riddellvorian: I'll upload a new kde4libs shortly that uses /usr so we should be able to take packages like that direct from debian11:38
vorianexcellent!11:39
* vorian must depart for the paying job now11:40
* Arby looks alarmed at the large number of 'failed to build' emails in his inbox 13:32
ArbyRiddell: looks like I stuffed up kdelibs, haven't had time to read the logs yet13:33
buz\sh: so i should get rid of backports?13:34
Arbyseems to be lots of 'error while opening "/include/kde.pot" for reading: No such file or directory'13:35
ArbyI'll look a this more when I get time but that's likely to be a few days now13:36
\shbuz, I dunno...14:02
buzdoesnt seem to work14:02
buzah well for the time being i can do with a virtualbox instance. just need to change a few words in an existing doc14:02
nixternalmornin'14:19
Nightroseheya nixternal :)14:19
Hobbseeheya :)14:20
Nightroseweather is fantastic here - you should move! ;-)14:20
Nightrosejust went for a walk14:20
jdaviesit's raining here14:20
Nightrose(reply to nixternal's twitter)14:20
Nightroseawww jdavies :/14:21
Nightroseyou should move too then14:21
Nightrose;-)14:21
jdaviesNightrose: nein, wir brauchen der Regen14:21
nixternalwell, it is 51f (you can convert that if need be), but they are saying afternoon showers...which means my city walkin' will be a bit wet possibly14:21
Nightrosejdavies: den ;-)14:22
Nightrosebut yea14:22
jdaviesNightrose: I forgot if it was masc/fem/neutral14:22
Nightrose;-) "der regen" so masculine14:23
NightroseRegen even14:23
jdaviesja14:23
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: ping14:33
nixternalto the game I go! if you watch the Chicago Cubs, look for me wearing my Ubuntu garb...right field, on top of one of the building14:37
nixternallater!14:38
Nightrosehave fun nixternal14:40
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: check these screenshots out and when I come back later tell me your opinion. I think they are ok14:53
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302188_oajra/KGRUBEditor34.png14:53
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302186_xifm8/KGRUBEditor35.png14:53
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302185_hkqm8/KGRUBEditor36.png14:53
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302187_gptdp/KGRUBEditor37.png14:53
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302184_nruom/KGRUBEditor38.png14:54
|Artemis_Fowl|seele: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1302183_nlocm/KGRUBEditor39.png14:54
jdaviesthat looked WRONG for a second15:00
RiddellArby: hrm15:08
RiddellArby: that .po stuff is fiddly15:09
Riddellthe kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff patch didn't apply, but it does when I run it locally15:16
stdinpeople seem to be blaming Qt4.4 for... everything. bug 22843215:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228432 in ubuntu "kde 4.0.4 got conflicts with Qt 4.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22843215:54
Riddellstdin: they're probably right15:58
stdinRiddell: I've no clue what to do about it though15:59
stdinor even if we can do anything about it15:59
Riddellnot really15:59
Riddellstdin: tell them to report the bug on qt if it's a qt bug16:12
stdinright-o16:14
seeleArtemis_Fowl: all of the image links are the same?16:55
seeleand the tabs need to be on the top by default16:56
Artemis_Fowlseele: they are different screenshots16:56
Artemis_Fowlseele: yy I will fix it16:56
Artemis_Fowlseele: I would create a screencast but I'm on KDE 4.116:56
Artemis_Fowlso screenshots atm16:56
seeleoh.. its not just the number that is different16:56
seelei just copied and pasted and changed the number from 35-3916:57
seelehold on16:57
seeleis the light blue color in the selection highlight in 38 an error?16:58
seeleand is the tooltip using your theme colors or did you set that manually?16:58
seelei think the default is black text on light yellow background (see knetworksettings)16:59
Artemis_Fowlseele: it's my theme16:59
seeleok16:59
seelethen that is alright as long as it is tied in correctly16:59
Artemis_FowlArtemis_Fowl: and the underlining you see is actually a separator16:59
Artemis_Fowlseele: because some properties such as Kernel are composed of certain parts17:00
seeleno, in 38 how the selected OS is a light blue instead of the dark blue17:00
Artemis_Fowlseele: let me see17:00
seeleif it is an error or on purpose17:00
Artemis_Fowlseele: ah that's merely how KDE4.1 behaves when hovering an item17:01
Artemis_Fowlseele: it's not on purpose17:02
Artemis_Fowlso, any objections?17:05
seeleit looks ok so far17:06
seelewe'll have to talk more about the toolbar functionality and why/who would make backups and copies of their grub configuration17:07
Artemis_Fowlseele: in the SystemSettings module there will be no toolbar17:07
seeleok17:07
Artemis_Fowlseele: I think that other than a 'Entries' page and 'Settings' I will have a page with GRUB Tools17:08
Artemis_Fowlseele: where I will put Backup and the Install ttols17:09
Artemis_Fowltools*17:09
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_Artemis_Fowl_seele: u here?18:08
seeleyes18:08
_Artemis_Fowl_seele: since the Default and Fallback options will be moved from General GRUB Settings to the Entries page, how will the user be able to remove default/fallback?18:09
_Artemis_Fowl_seele: I mean if the user wants no Default/Fallback, how will he be able to remove it?18:10
_Artemis_Fowl_currently only setting is available, not un-setting18:10
seeleit will be a checkbox on the entries page?18:11
seeleenable disable?18:11
seeledoes there have to be a defined default or fallback option?18:11
_Artemis_Fowl_seele: not really18:12
seeledoes a checkbox work since we are moving it?18:13
seelei think that was an oversight on my part.. the old wireframes had the checkbox, but it also had the quick function of changing it on the os list18:13
_Artemis_Fowl_hmm18:18
_Artemis_Fowl_what do you mean 'does a checkbox work since we are moving it?'18:18
seeleyou said there was no way to reset the default/fallback to none18:19
seelea checkbox would be make/dont make default/fallback, no?18:19
seeleand the option is going in the settings wizard that you already have?18:20
seelebecause it has to be os-specific18:20
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smarter_Riddell: do you think we can push desktop-effects-kde 0.4.1 to hardy-updates since it's a minor bugfix release?19:04
Riddellsmarter_: you'd need to create a minimal diff and ask pitti19:08
smarter_ok, I'll try19:09
smarter_Riddell: what version number should I use? 0.4.0.1?19:14
Riddellsmarter_: yes19:14
smarter_Riddell: should I create a SRU bug report?19:24
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Riddellsmarter: yep19:27
nosrednaekimapachelogger: hey..... with Neon, can I copy a qtrc from my .kde4 to /opt somewhere to make amarok match the color scheme of kde4?19:33
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apacheloggerNightrose: should nosrednaekim ask again - copying kdeglobals from .kde4 to .amarok-nightly should do the job ;-)19:58
Nightrose;-)19:58
Nightrosethx apachelogger - will keep that in mind19:59
yuriyapachelogger: or a symlink for the brave?20:14
apacheloggerbad idea20:14
apacheloggersomething might have changed in 4.120:15
apacheloggerwhich could possibly break 4.020:15
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apacheloggernosrednaekim:[20:58:37] <apachelogger> Nightrose: should nosrednaekim ask again - copying kdeglobals from .kde4 to .amarok-nightly should do the job ;-)20:51
nosrednaekimapachelogger: awesome! thanks :)20:51
nosrednaekimthought there might be some trick like that :)20:52
apacheloggernosrednaekim: btw20:54
apachelogger[21:14:30] <yuriy> apachelogger: or a symlink for the brave?20:54
apachelogger[21:14:49] <apachelogger> bad idea20:54
apachelogger[21:15:01] <apachelogger> something might have changed in 4.120:54
apachelogger[21:15:08] <apachelogger> which could possibly break 4.020:54
apacheloggernosrednaekim: just so you don't do that :P20:54
nosrednaekim:)20:55
nosrednaekimI didn't20:55
apacheloggerk20:55
nosrednaekimNICE!20:56
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RiddellHobbsee: could you give back https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/strigi/0.5.9-123:16
* Riddell wobbles windows with kwin23:19
Riddellnixternal: do you thinnk docs are needed for guidance-power-manager in kdereview?23:21
* Riddell snoozes23:21
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