[00:00] gnomefreak: For now we're using wiki... just to add an entry into proposed extensions table... Hmm, maybe we should rename "Suggested extensions missing details" to "Proposed extensions". But please don't blog for a day or two. You reminded me that I wanted to discuss about moving MT/Firefox3Extensions to MT/Extensions/SomePage and MT/Firefox3Extensions/Packaging to MT/Extensions/Packaging [00:01] ok ill add it to text file and change it as needed if you let me know when things change :) [00:02] everyone: What's your opinion on extensions wiki change? [00:02] asac, fta, gnomefreak: ^ [00:03] it would work if we removed firefox since we are not just firefox [00:03] so maybe something like mozillateam/extensions/firefox and a mozillateam/extensions/thunderbird and packaging and stuff like that [00:04] make everything a subpage of MT/Extensions [00:04] gnomefreak: I'll mark FireGPG as Repo=No, and remove bold markers from FireGPG entry :)... In order not to break fta's update-extensions script... [00:04] asac: had stated we were gonna work on tbird for intrepid [00:05] Jazzva: thats fine :) i didnt know there was a script [00:05] gnomefreak: Oh, yeah. It's doing miracles for now :). [00:05] (well, miracles from my point of view ;)) [00:07] gnomefreak: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/mozilla-devtools [00:07] it's the check-extensions, not update-extensions.. [00:08] it doesnt add one for us? [00:08] it's the part of future extensions large-scale maintenance. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/LargeScaleMaintenance [00:08] or it checks if everyhting is inline? [00:09] add one? to wiki... no, it parses data from wiki, so we need to keep it consistent. You can also find the new extensions proposal process on that page [00:09] ah [00:11] thats messed up [00:11] messed up? [00:11] fta: i dont think your xul fixes blam [00:11] it fixed it last night damnit [00:12] nevermind i have default one [00:14] fta: you didnt build xulrunner for intrepid did you or still using Hardys from your PPA [00:15] lol its fixed again [00:16] noep it crashes with either xulrunner [00:16] fuck blam [00:16] * gnomefreak goes back to liferea [00:18] i use greader for most of my feeds, and i've kept liferea for my private stuff [00:18] greader within prism [00:21] LP is going down on sat. [00:21] 21:00-23:00 UTC [00:21] liferea likes to eat 100% CPU about every day ;) [00:22] JanC, works fine for me, only search folders suck cpu here [00:23] (fortunately it doesn't use multiple cores) [00:26] Jazzva: when your doing liferea merge please make sure you can opena link in browser [00:27] damn, zlib is broken. [00:27] my firefox wont open at all [00:28] gnomefreak: Ok, I'll test that [00:28] brb gonna restart maybe mem issue [00:28] Jazzva: ill let you knwo what it was in a few minutes [00:28] k [00:32] debian bug 149939 [00:32] Debian bug 149939 in zlib1g-dev "zlib1g-dev: libz.a contains PIC" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/149939 [00:32] damn debian policy [00:36] we really need to make bluetooth beagle and alot of other things optional no installed by default [00:37] ok wtf is this shit [00:37] fta: gnomefreak@Development:~$ policy firefox [00:38] firefox: [00:38] Installed: 3.0~cvs20080502t1439+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1~hardy [00:38] Candidate: 3.0~cvs20080502t1439+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1~hardy [00:38] Version table: [00:38] *** 3.0~cvs20080502t1439+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1~hardy 0 [00:38] 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status [00:38] 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0 [00:38] 500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages [00:38] gnomefreak@Development:~$ policy firefox-3.0 [00:38] firefox-3.0: [00:38] Installed: 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [00:38] Candidate: 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [00:38] how in the hell does that work? [00:39] firefox and firefox-3.0 should be same version [00:39] missing a symlink somewhere? [00:40] you're not up-to-date [00:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11035/ [00:41] firefox | 2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Sources [00:41] this is not good [00:41] intrepid is fully up to date i dont have your repo in sources.list for intrepid but maybe i should [00:42] if you have fta1~hardy, then you have my ppa in your list [00:42] ppa-hardy [00:42] fta: wget + dpkg [00:42] ah [00:43] do you have intrepid updated? [00:43] asac, firefox | 2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/universe Sources <= shouldn't it be firefox-2 ? [00:43] your PPA intrepid [00:43] fta: yes should [00:43] lates ff3 and xul in intrepid PPA? [00:43] as i said, i push for both hardy and intrepid but the ppa builders are only doing hardy [00:43] ah [00:44] Jazzva: no need to look into liferea for that its my system [00:44] lp guys told me it's normal and that once it will start for intrepid, the queue will be processed [00:44] Ok [00:45] fta: firefox is still the right source. just the bin package names changed [00:46] oh, missed it was src [00:46] firefox should be 3.0 firefox-2 should be 2.0 [00:46] i thought anyway [00:47] asac, btw, songbird ftbfs on amd64 (well, 3rd party taglib) because taglib is -fPIC lib and zlib is not [00:47] in-source zlib? [00:48] and i assume thats in intrepid? [00:48] or hardy too? [00:48] both [00:48] system zlib is not -fPIC [00:48] because of debian bug 149939 [00:49] Debian bug 149939 in zlib1g-dev "zlib1g-dev: libz.a contains PIC" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/149939 [00:49] songbird adds CPPFLAGS="-fPIC" [00:49] so it links zlib static? [00:49] yes libz.a [00:49] which is the problem in the first place i guess [00:50] why not the .so? [00:50] ok it works but how do i turn the feeds around :( [00:51] taglib is from kde, no idea why they are doing that [00:51] is that system-taglib? or something in-sb-source? [00:52] nope, system-taglib is too old, upstream-(released)-taglib is too old too [00:52] so it's svn snapshot [00:52] not my choice [00:52] songbird's choice [00:53] well ... i guess making taglib use shared zlib shouldn't be that hard [00:55] hmm full totem + gstreamer [00:55] they ship their own zlib too [00:57] the tarball could be heavily stripped but i didn't do it (yet) [00:57] at least when getting the svn trunk ;) [00:58] <[reed]> asac: ping [01:00] [reed]: a pong [01:00] <[reed]> asac: see msg [02:30] gnomefreak, i've pushed a new songbird to my ppa. once it's built, please use this one, it's much better [03:58] fta: ok will do [04:00] fta: is it the same version? [04:06] also you had said something about prism feed reader started with a g but its not with our build of prism [04:09] night [05:27] asac: when you get here if its within an hour or so please ping me i have a question about packaging the extension when pushing the first time it says there is no firefox-extensions and --create-prefix doesnt help that since its not the last part of path [05:36] asac: nevermind ill pin gyou in morning about it unless you see it and answer it before i get here === asac_ is now known as asac [08:14] good morning if our here [08:23] !infolibjs-prototype hardy [08:23] gnomefreak: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:23] !info libjs-prototype hardy [08:23] Package libjs-prototype does not exist in hardy [08:23] hmmmmmmmm === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [10:20] asac: what does this mean? did them stop the release for now? A release branch for 3.0alpha1 has been cut, so the mail/ and [10:20] > mailnews/ directories on trunk have been re-opened for checkins. [10:21] gnomefreak: tbird? [10:21] or ffox? [10:21] (the branch)? [10:21] tbird [10:22] the has been cut is what bothers me [10:22] ok, then it means that they stabilize for alpha1 release now [10:22] ok cool [10:22] that will come from the branch the cut out [10:23] ah ok they also give a link wher ethe candidates are [10:23] right [10:23] that means the release will happen soon [10:23] early next week they hope [10:23] yeah [10:24] they also have topic on spicebird << that is cool [10:24] its built on tb3 and its pretty much all in one app [10:24] all-in-one-app? what is 'all'? [10:25] it has tbird lightning an IM a dashboard like set up (there is more but i would hav eto get link [10:26] http://www.spicebird.com/ [10:27] maybe that was everything i thought the video showed more [10:27] http://www.spicebird.com/demos/spicebird.html is the video demo [10:38] hi gnomefreak [10:38] hi Gorzak [10:39] gnomefreak> so the java site don't running normally :) [10:39] even with updated firefox nad xulrunner its still now right? [10:42] i had install xulrunner [10:42] and updated what ever ubuntu want [10:43] it's same problem [10:43] what's "nad" ? [10:44] nad == and as a typo [10:44] ok [10:44] Gorzak: ok downgrade back to hardys version sof xulrunner and firefox3 [10:45] i don't understand [10:45] if your not sure how go to packages.ubuntu/com and search for them in the search box and make sure under it says hardy [10:45] packages.ubuntu.com [10:46] Gorzak: you working on it? [10:46] asac: funky java issue on 386 [10:47] gnomefreak> i try to understand, i am on the site packages.ubuntu.com [10:47] Gorzak: ok look near the bottom you see a search box [10:47] the first search box you come to [10:48] and i write what in the search box ? [10:48] xulrunner & firefox ? [10:48] Gorzak: start with firefox-3.0 [10:50] so, i had a list of packages related of firefox [10:50] i install all of them ? [10:50] once it comes up click on the one that says firefox-3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [10:50] Gorzak: just the ones i tell you to [10:51] yes, and i select xulrunner to the new list of packages related ? [10:51] once you click on it next page scroll to bottom you will see a box with 386 in it [10:51] hmm ... someone should come up with a good package description fro thundebird [10:51] asac: what does it say [10:52] Gorzak: than pick a server than download the package than do same for xulrunner-1.9 [10:52] i need to get up for a minute ill be back soon [10:58] ok Gorzak did you get them? [10:58] gnomefreak> it say a another version most recently is allready installed [10:58] i need to remove firefox before install the new *.deb ? [10:58] Gorzak: you install it with sudo dpkg -i filename.deb replace filename with the real name of file [10:58] Gorzak: start with xulrunner [10:59] Gorzak: dpkg will overwrite the package you have with the package you downloaded [10:59] asac: for what version of tbird? [11:01] i was just thinking about packaging spicebird for PPA but relized we dont have a debian dir that we can use and change since it has im cal+tb [11:02] asac: maek you a deal ill think about tbird description if you help Gorzak with his java issue when hes done dowgrading to hardy versions of xul and ff3 [11:03] java.com says it works he said pogo worked (assuming he signed in and wen to game table/room) [11:04] but he cant load java applets on otehr sites [11:05] if you need to sign into one fo the sites he has issues with (cant think of name) i have login and password that i set up for team to use to try and reproduce [11:07] asac: oh and btw on the how to build extensions when you used devsripts as example i cant push the .upstream branch since Lp doesnt know about firefox-extensions part of the path that you want to push to [11:09] bzr push bzr+ssh://$LAUNCHPAD_ID@bazaar.launchpad.net/~$LAUNCHPAD_ID/firefox-extensions/$EXTENSIONNAME.upstream on wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Firefox3Extensions/Packaging [11:09] * gnomefreak getting tired of waiting for the autosync so i was gonna start on it but failed when i got there [11:14] gnomefreak: package description fixed. there was a patch in bts [11:14] ah [11:15] i have tried just about everything with this persons java+ff and cant figure it out to save my life [11:15] it works here [11:17] which java is he runing? [11:20] 6 [11:20] from repos [11:21] not showing up in about:plugins? [11:21] sun-java6-plugin [11:21] if so the alternative is broken most likely [11:21] i didnt get a chance for the alternatives i dont think [11:21] Gorzak: you still there? [11:22] * gnomefreak goes for smoke real fast. Gorzak open ff3 and in address bar type in about:plugins and let me know if java6 is listed in there [11:31] gnomefreak> wait, i was eating [11:32] k [11:32] no changes [11:33] Gorzak: open firefox and in the address bar type about:plugins [11:33] Gorzak: let me know if java is in there [11:33] synaptic propose to me to upgrade xulrunner [11:33] i say yes ? [11:33] apt-cache policy xulrunner-1.9 [11:34] what is the installed verson that command gives [11:34] Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_06-b02 [11:34] Nom de fichier : libjavaplugin_oji.so [11:34] Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_06 [11:34] Installé : 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 [11:34] Candidat : 1.9~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~8.04.0mt1 [11:34] Gorzak: yes upgrade it [11:35] asac: is it still --config java with update-alternatives? [11:36] Gorzak: open a terminal and type sudo update-alternatives --config java [11:36] and let me know what the links are and where the signs are [11:36] *+ 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java [11:36] 2 /usr/bin/gij-4.2 [11:36] 3 /usr/bin/gij-4.1 [11:36] signs == * and + [11:36] asac: its all good [11:37] Gorzak: in about:plugins did it list a bunch of java things? [11:37] yes it is a list of parameters, all on "yes" [11:38] Gorzak: this is where it becomes a bit harder since java is installed and being used [11:39] asac: any ideas for this java issue [11:40] i will need to go [11:40] k [11:43] ill be back i have to reboot from updates [11:49] as about:plugins gives you java its properly detected. [11:57] Gorzak: so plugin is not listed in about:plugins? [11:57] if so, please paste the output of /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/ [11:57] aeh [11:57] ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/ [12:06] * gnomefreak not feeling real great a bit dizzy going to lay down for a while. [12:54] "Your membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol is about to expire" !? why ? [12:56] asac> i do a pastbin for you, gnomefreak too [12:56] http://pastebin.com/m246cfd01 [13:11] asac: ping [13:15] Gorzak: that should work [13:15] Jazzva: ? [13:18] asac: 99_autoconf updates build files, and I need to update it, because of the new build files, which are not made with automake 1.10 and such. Should I just add files that are going to be changed to quilt, and then call aclocal and automake? [13:19] Jazzva: if the current change only includes configure you might want to just run autoconf; look out that you are using the same version as documented in current configure [13:20] e.g. quilt push -f; autoconf2.50; quilt refresh --diffstat -U8 --no-timestamps [13:20] or something like that [13:20] Uh-huh... ok, I'll play around :) [13:20] Thanks [13:20] welcome [13:34] asac: It rejects some changes. I'll wait until pochu comes around to ask him how he generated this patch... [13:34] Jazzva, it's expected that push -f generates some (a lot) of rejects. [13:35] but it does matter [13:35] Well, not a lot in this case, 2 out of 50. But those are changes to configure file, and I'm not sure if they're ok or not [13:35] *needed or not [13:35] 2.50 generates far less than 2.13 [13:40] Jazzva: rejects? thats normal ... you push -f to apply them anyway [13:40] and run autoconf then refresh to fix the problem [13:41] fta: has buggy_repeat patch already been dropped in intrepid? [13:42] no, i wanted the forum to be open to call for feedbacks [13:43] fta: i think its not required. should be safe now [13:44] there's a merge waiting, i'll ask seb128 === jw2328_ is now known as james_w [14:24] debian bug 474395 [14:24] Debian bug 474395 in iceweasel "iceweasel: some tabs have spurious lines, making display unreadable" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/474395 [14:31] bug 186186 [14:31] Launchpad bug 186186 in xulrunner-1.9 "web page background render errors" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186186 [14:47] gnomefreak> asac, i have found the solution, java work, i have remove "adblock plus" [14:52] Gorzak: you can disable adblock for specific sites too i guess. but well, fine. [14:52] disable for all, it's good ^^ [14:55] lol, I can't live without adblock plus [16:31] asac: ping [16:36] jtv: pong [16:37] asac: hi... I'm a bit confused about the status of my cherry-pick request. I was a bit tired late and night and didn't explain so well to Kiko, and now it seems it's no longer approved. [16:37] late _at_ night, rather [16:37] asac: did you have any problems with the uploads? [16:39] jtv: which uploads? [16:40] i am confused too. kiko asked me what this was about; he didn't tell me that it would be unapproved because of that [16:40] jtv: whats the timeline suggestion now? [16:41] asac: as soon as I can get the misunderstandings cleared up, hopefully still today. [16:41] thanks [16:42] if this confusion is due to me, let me know [16:42] asac: in my explanation I sort of glossed over the fact that your translations right now aren't matched up properly with your templates, because of the changed context strings. I did mention it, but I guess I wasn't clear. So maybe then Kiko's response was "what jtv told me is not correct, so I can't approve." [16:43] oh ok. [16:44] i explained to him that this cherry-pick is likely to fix the situations that xulrunner-1.9 doesn't have any translations anymore [16:44] he was somewhat confused, but still i didn't get out of the discussion that he would unapprove the change [16:45] anyway. lets see whats coming out of it [16:45] ;) [17:19] asac: it's approved! === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [17:21] now he tells me :( [17:24] jtv: rock. [17:24] jtv: whats the time window for this to land? [17:35] how long does it take to get autosync set up :( [17:35] and who is ases87 [17:47] jtv: ? would like to forward that info to the folks waiting for us ;) [17:48] pitti + mid + me ;) === dholbert is now known as dholbert_sheriff === dholbert_sheriff is now known as dholbert [17:54] ubuntu 8.04.1 is a team? thought it would be devel team [17:56] asac: let me check if it's not in yet... shouldn't be long. [17:56] gnomefreak: whats the difference of team and devel team in your case? [17:58] asac: it doesn't seem to be in yet, but I expect it to happen vely vely soon. Get those uploads ready! [17:58] jtv: the uploads are ready ;) ... for now i just need to import the upstream .xpis :) [18:01] ive never heard of a point release team [18:06] gnomefreak: yes, we are a virtual team to get out a perfect 8.04.1 [18:07] ah [18:12] * gnomefreak thought it was 24 hour turnaround for autosync in LP [18:12] * gnomefreak needs to get back into intrepid for updates ill brb [18:52] do we have anything important pending to get done today/overweekend [18:52] s/overweekend/over weekend [18:58] bug 215728 [18:59] Launchpad bug 215728 in xulrunner-1.9 "[MASTER] Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215728 [19:00] damn they hit 3 more bugs this week for b5 [19:01] make that last night === asac_ is now known as asac [19:17] alot of old crashes [19:19] gnomefreak, did you try songbird ? [19:19] ~fta4 [19:19] fta: yes if that is the one from last night [19:21] i test more a bit later today. im just doing bugs to keep myself busy maybe the dizziness and sick feeling will leave [19:41] gnomefreak, did it work ? no error as before ? [19:52] fta: yes no errors [19:52] brb shower [20:01] asac: it turned out there was still some confusion with that import fix. The person who needs to execute the CP was out to lunch, but I hope I've sent him everything he needs. Meanwhile, here in the Far East, I need to go to bed! [20:15] damn debian, i should not have upgraded my server, libdbd-sqlite3-perl is borked with no ETA for a fix [20:15] asac: having issues with jabber? [20:36] jtv: thanks. night! [20:39] debian bug 476480 [20:40] Debian bug 476480 in pixman "pixman: please add a udeb as it is required for current cairo in unstable" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/476480 [20:44] gnomefreak: me? [20:44] no i think i have provider issues ;) [20:45] asac: yes you [20:45] ah ok :) [20:46] sorry have nose in bugs so i might not answer right away [20:46] thats ok [20:46] i am in weekend mode, so dito :-D [20:46] asac: my email that you will be geting can you go through the crash bugs and mark fix release if the fix has been pushed when you get time [20:47] theres only around 10 crashes [20:47] if not ill save them and look upstream for them [20:47] gnomefreak: ? 10 crashes? [20:47] how do you get to that number? [20:48] First problem: Question being posed is a Yes/No question, so choices of Cancel and OK are not appropriate. This violates various industry-standard UI guidelines (See GNOME, APPLE, IBM, MICROSOFT UI Guidelines.) [20:48] asac: i guess not all the emails you have are crashes [20:48] wtf is that that i pasted? [20:49] its gonna be closed anyway [20:49] gnomefreak: should be associated with proper upstream bug [20:49] or closed as "wontfix" in ubuntu [20:50] closed as wont fix near EOS and not SRU [20:50] for ffox its definitly wontfix (EOL) [20:51] and this was in sept of 07 [20:51] ffox 3 its incomplete upstream target [20:51] no ff3 target [20:52] if he sees same issue on 3.0 he can repoprt it until than there isnt a point in keeping it open since it is an old bug [20:53] only down to 304 :( [20:53] 330 to start with i think :( [21:13] 304 of what? [21:16] new bugs [21:16] all from mid 2007 [21:18] asac: http://163.18.75.60:8080/smallroomsignup/ what does that page show you? just some writing and 4 blocks going down mid page? [21:19] 4 buttons [21:19] and a title banner thing [21:19] in text form with one image in the top-left [21:22] asac: related to bug 145634 [21:22] Launchpad bug 145634 in firefox "firefox can't apply the items shown in http://163.18.75.60:8080/smallroomsignup/" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145634 [21:22] asac: what are we looking for that isnt in his screenshot? [21:23] i closed it [21:23] looks like a site issue i click on them and get nothing [21:25] asac: thanks same thing i was thinking [21:26] we really have to be harder about bugs of this kind imo [21:26] i mean we are not a ask-what-you-want party-line ;) [21:27] thats true [21:27] any old no reply bugs im closing for 2.0 and asking them to file a new one for 3.0 if its seen in 3.0 [21:28] yes, thats correct [21:29] set them to wontfix status [21:31] ok let me fix my procmail ;) ... so i can read bugmail again. [21:31] what do i want to read? [21:31] i want triaged, confirmed bugs i guess [21:31] and in progress ones, as well as fix committed [21:32] na ... this all doesn't make much sense ;) [21:36] lol [21:45] * gnomefreak goes to eat dinner === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac [23:57] oh i meant to ask is there a reason why we dont build --enable-shared?