[02:07] <mcisbackuk> Hi I've just installed Xubuntu Hardy, it seems it hasn't picked up my ATI Radeon 9200 drivers, although Ubuntu 8.04 does...any suggestions??
[02:09] <mcisbackuk> How do I install them anyone?
[02:10] <ere4si> !ati | mcisbackuk
[02:13] <mcisbackuk> ere4si: That might be fine for me, but what about the other users hunting for the same thing, when Ubuntu manages to find it fine? I've reported it as a bug anyway
[02:13] <ere4si> good idea
[02:14] <mcisbackuk> Thanks anyay, I'll have a look :)#
[03:11] <Chrysalis> ive been trying to mount 2 partitions, but sudo fdisk -l is not listing them, not is sudo mount -a mounting anything
[03:12] <Chrysalis> not is*
[03:12] <Chrysalis> nor* damn it
[03:13] <Chrysalis> am i missing something?
[03:30] <Chrysalis> nm, got it, guess it doesnt show till i mount
[07:16] <raket> hey folks
[07:16] <raket> how can I mount a flash drive in xubuntu?
[07:17] <raket> I am in recovery mode, and the thing won't mount automatically
[07:54] <jarnos> Hello. I want to remove kubuntu-desktop, but I can not remove kio-umountwrapper due to an error. How do you remove it?
[07:57] <zoredache> what is the error?
[08:00] <jarnos> zoredache: I used apt-get to remove, it gives much text, but I guess this is the error: "dpkg: error processing kio-umountwrapper (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[08:02] <biro> hi all, is it possible to reorder the applications on the taskbar?
[08:12] <jarnos> biro: I don't know but I recommend using "Always group tasks" in the properties. BTW it may be hard to get in editing of task list properties, if there are a lot of apps open.
[08:14] <zoredache> jarnos: that would indicate there is a bug in the post removal script.  Depending on how advanced you feel you could go look at the script and try figuring out what is broke
[08:15] <jarnos> zoredache: I don't even know where the script is.
[08:15] <zoredache> try running sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm purge  pastebin the results or post here if they are short
[08:16] <zoredache> "sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm purge"
[08:17] <jarnos> zoredache: /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm: didn't understand being called with `purge'
[08:18] <zoredache> what was the error you got?
[08:20] <jarnos> zoredache: that was the only output the command gave.
[08:20] <jarnos> zoredache: or do you mean the apt-get command?
[08:21] <zoredache> so this is the exact error message copy&pasted?   'didn't understand being called with `purge'
[08:22] <zoredache> btw what release/architecure?  hardy & i386?
[08:23] <Assid> heya
[08:23] <Assid> im trying to use the xbox xubuntu iso, however, i had a question
[08:24] <Assid> does vnc start up by default?
[08:24] <Assid> cause i dont have a keyboard/mouse on that
[08:26] <jarnos> zoredache: yes.
[08:27] <zoredache> ah... the script is being stupid
[08:28] <zoredache> try running it like this -- "sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm remove"
[08:30] <zoredache> or if you are completely getting rid of kde you could do something hackish
[08:32] <jarnos> zoredache: http://pastebin.ca/1012502
[08:33] <zoredache> using a command like this would overwrite the postrm script and force it to return report that it has been removed properly  -- sudo sh -c 'echo "exit 0" > /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm'
[08:33] <zoredache> the postrm script doesn't look like it is doing anything important so getting rid of it is probably safe
[08:38] <jarnos> zoredache: now the apt-get command gives "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error"
[08:42] <zoredache> hrm.. just delete it maybe
[08:42] <zoredache> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kio-umountwrapper.postrm
[08:45] <jarnos> zoredache: That did it! I suppose there is bug somewhere.
[08:50] <Iskr> p
[08:50] <daftpun1> good morinig
[09:59] <larsensen> hi guys
[10:08] <larsensen> ehiehi someone there?
[10:08] <larsensen> i need a little help
[10:09] <TheSheep> !ask
[10:09] <Iskr_> is there a way to remove update notifier from system tray?
[10:09] <jbur2> Got disconnected.  Sorry.
[10:10] <larsensen> :)
[10:10] <TheSheep> Iskr_: yes, go to settings->setting manager->autostarted applications
[10:10] <jbur2> repost:  How does one enable compiz as the default window manager for Xubunut?
[10:10] <jbur2> For all the users
[10:10] <TheSheep> jbur2: you'd make a session file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[10:11] <TheSheep> jbur2: one that starts compiz instead of xfwm4
[10:13] <jbur2> thanks I'll try doing that
[10:17] <larsensen> ok, yesterday i've installed 8.04 to a friend, no problema at all. after downloaded the updates, i putted a second hd expecting that disk manager appear, but nothing append and i haven't found it nor via apt...
[10:19] <larsensen> how can i find disk manager in xubuntu? is in by default like i think?
[10:21] <TheSheep> larsensen: settings->setting manager->file manager->advanced->volume management
[10:21] <larsensen> ah thank you, i will check it
[10:24] <larsensen> bye guys
[10:53] <GryzorX> Hello, has anyone installed xubuntu-desktop with apt-get? My Xfce4 session is not starting. I get a cyan background. Under Gnome everything works (thunar, xfce4-panels, etc.) I've thrashed user/.Xfce4-* with no success. I've removed (sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop) and reinstalled it using aptitude but nothing changed. This is 8.04LTS. Thanks.
[11:13] <suriro> GryzorX: did you solve it?
[11:13] <GryzorX> suriro: nope :(
[11:14] <suriro> when the login screen appears, switch to console ctrl-alt-f1, login
[11:14] <GryzorX> suriro: i just get this "blank" (well, it's cyan) screen. The same i get with gnome, only that gnome loads a few secs later.
[11:14] <GryzorX> Let me try that, i've got the box right beside me.
[11:15] <suriro> GryzorX: is this not like xfce hangs and never starts thing?
[11:15] <GryzorX> ok, I'm on text login.
[11:15] <GryzorX> I'd love to see a log or something
[11:15] <GryzorX> If i start gnome, and then run thunar, or even xfce4-panel it works.
[11:16] <GryzorX> In fact, yesterday, it started once! (without me touching anything afaicr)
[11:17] <suriro> GryzorX: so the issue is xfce session hangs mostly with a blank backgeound, right?
[11:17] <GryzorX> but the thing is, i login, select Xfce4 session and Xfce4 doesn't start. (I have to ctrl-alt-backspace )
[11:17] <suriro> ok, issue the following on console
[11:18] <suriro> killall screensaver
[11:18] <GryzorX> suriro: as far as I understand, yes. It hangs and the background is the "standard" background (which I changed from brown to blue)
[11:18] <GryzorX> no proc killed. :S
[11:18] <suriro> ps ax|grep screensaver
[11:18] <suriro> any output?
[11:19] <GryzorX> aye, i've got pid 11653 with gnome-screensaver
[11:19] <GryzorX> shall I kill that one?
[11:19] <suriro> yes
[11:19] <GryzorX> just a sec
[11:19] <GryzorX> kill -15... it's gone
[11:19] <suriro> ok, ctrl-alt-f7, retry login
[11:20] <holyguyver_> Now I know that it came presetup with a cups/as pdf printer driver, but it doesn't allow me to choose a different name or location for the file. Is there any way for me to configure it to let me, or does anyone know of a different pdf diver that does?
[11:21] <GryzorX> suriro: hmm not working either; however, I switched to text again and gnome-ssaver was there again...
[11:22] <suriro> GryzorX: sudo apt-get remove gnome-screensaver
[11:22] <GryzorX> (I made sure that it got killed, but it reapeared)
[11:22] <GryzorX> suriro: now that's what I call a : "get the heck outta here darn ssaver" ;)
[11:22] <GryzorX> suriro: hang on a sec, will do just that.
[11:22] <suriro> GryzorX: you can reinstall later
[11:22] <GryzorX> suriro: yeah, not that I really care 'bout those ssavers.
[11:23] <GryzorX> suriro: ok, gone. Now trying to login again
[11:24] <GryzorX> suriro: you're a genius :)
[11:24] <GryzorX> suriro: is this a bug or a "my system only" thing?
[11:24] <GryzorX> suriro: thank you very much :)
[11:25] <suriro> GryzorX: gnome stuff is causing deadlock on some configurations, I'm not entirely sure this is repeatable everywhere
[11:26] <GryzorX> suriro: multithreading is a killer thing :S
[11:26] <suriro> no, in this case gnome-screensaver is grabbing DISPLAY and  not releasing it for xfce
[11:27] <suriro> but I managed to recover after pressing ctrl-alt-bkspc and retrying login on my laptop
[11:27] <GryzorX> suriro: ops. Bad ssaver. I had a gnome ssaver, that's true. I'll just leave it at "black screen"
[11:27] <GryzorX> suriro: yes, in fact, yesterday while I was trying stuff, it logged in once and i was.. WTF?
[11:28] <GryzorX> suriro: because the moment I logged off, it stoped working. (by the way, will try that right now) ;)
[11:29] <GryzorX> suriro: now works fine :)
[11:29] <GryzorX> i like xfce4 :))))
[11:29] <suriro> i suppose this is like a timing issue, gnome-screensaver should not start before xfwm
[11:30] <GryzorX> suriro: true, it has nothing to do there until a window manager is alive and well.
[11:30] <suriro> on some boxes it always does, and the only way to recvoer is to remove gnome-screensaver.
[11:31] <GryzorX> i won't install it again, i really don't need it. (ssaver i mean)
[11:31] <suriro> xscreensaver plays nice with xfce AFAIK
[11:33] <GryzorX> yeah, will configure that one.
[11:43] <s_arts> GryzorX: i like xfce4 too.
[11:44] <TheSheep> xfce has an important role of keeping the gtk apps cross-desktop
[11:45] <holyguyver_> Well I will try asking again: Now I know that it came presetup with a cups/as pdf printer driver, but it doesn't allow me to choose a different name or location for the file. Is there any way for me to configure it to let me, or does anyone know of a different pdf diver that does?
[11:46] <flotishu>  firestarter problem since i removed it , then instaled kmyfirewall. removed it. and reinstalled firestarter. http://pastebin.com/m723ea818     some apps like firefox or etherape are not runing too.  help?
[11:47] <GryzorX> s_arts: yeah, it's nice. Tho I liked the old style CDE like panel that old versions had. :)
[11:47] <s_arts> Well, in theory you could make it look like that again.
[11:49] <holyguyver_> yeah just tell it to not extend it
[11:57] <GryzorX> that's true
[12:00] <GryzorX> stupid question, is it possible to drag an item from the menu to the panel (like in gnome)?
[12:01] <holyguyver_> I don't think so
[12:02] <GryzorX> what would be the best way to add a program then? Just adding a launcher and finding the binary file in the filesystem?
[12:03] <holyguyver_> That is what I do
[12:04] <GryzorX> holyguyver_: :S that's ugly, but I can live with it. :)
[12:06] <holyguyver_> Sorry that I couldn't be of more help, I am relatively new at all this myself
[12:07] <GryzorX> holyguyver_:  :) no problem. THanks anyway.
[12:08] <holyguyver_> Now perhaps you can help me with my problem, it is : Now I know that it came presetup with a cups/as pdf printer driver, but it doesn't allow me to choose a different name or location for the file. Is there any way for me to configure it to let me, or does anyone know of a different pdf diver that does?
[12:08] <TheSheep> hmm... I can select the location of the file in the print dialog
[12:09] <holyguyver_> I am on Gutsy
[12:09] <TheSheep> I don't htink it changed recently
[12:09] <s_arts> GryzorX: the answer is, holyguyver_ is correct and please submit a feature-request for xfce.
[12:10] <holyguyver_> O thank you s_arts, where do I go to submit that? :)
[12:10] <GryzorX> s_arts: could you please provide me with a link to that? (if you have it handy, otherwise google is my friend)
[12:11] <holyguyver_> GryzorX yes if you could submit that for me I would be greatful, because I do not feel that I would be very adaquit at submitting a feature request
[12:11] <GryzorX> i'll do it. :)
[12:11] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: http://atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~sheep/shot.png <-- like this
[12:13] <holyguyver_> thesheep yes
[12:14] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: there are fileds for selecting the file name and location, under the printer list
[12:14] <holyguyver_> TheSheep I see that you have it set up slightly different so let me try configuring it to the way you have it
[12:16] <holyguyver_> TheSheep, well on xfce (not sure what you are running it looks very different when I try to do that
[12:17] <TheSheep> hmm... I might have installed something additional :/
[12:18] <holyguyver_> TheSheep if you're running xfce then your xfce is vista to my xfce's win95
[12:20] <GryzorX> holyguyver_: quite a metaphor you threw there… :)
[12:20] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: what do you mean? it's just a style and some icons
[12:21] <holyguyver_> No it looks completely different, is there any way I can show you a screenshot?
[12:22] <GryzorX> holyguyver_: i just went to my print dialog, and I've got two options (as I've no real printer): Print to File (which looks much like TheSheep's dialog) and PDF. If I use Print To File, i can put the pdf wherever I want.
[12:24] <holyguyver_> TheSheep I just offered to send you a screenshot of mine, did you get the request?
[12:24] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: yes
[12:24] <holyguyver_> GryzorX Yes it does allow me to, but it looks nothing at all like his
[12:25] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: let me see
[12:25] <holyguyver_> TheSheep I sent it, so you did not get the send request?
[12:25] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: I did, I'm copying it to my desktop now
[12:27] <holyguyver_> See TheSheep my print to file thing looks nothing like yours :p
[12:27] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: argh, I forgot to accept the connection :)
[12:28] <holyguyver_> there I am sending it again
[12:29] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: that's a file selection dialog
[12:29] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: you can navigate with it and you can enter the file name in the field at the top
[12:29] <holyguyver_> TheSheep well that is what comes up when I click "print to file"
[12:29] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: in what application?
[12:30] <holyguyver_> firefox when I click on print
[12:30] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: the dialog I showed you comes when you click on print
[12:30] <holyguyver_> mine does too
[12:30] <holyguyver_> the one I showed you came from when I click print
[12:31] <holyguyver_> See yours is the vista to my win95 but linux & xfceifided :p
[12:31] <GryzorX> lol
[12:32] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: you forgot to install xubuntu's default gtk theme
[12:32] <holyguyver_> O that might have done it :p
[12:32] <holyguyver_> but I installed it from a xubuntu install CD
[12:32] <TheSheep> and you didn't change anything?
[12:32] <holyguyver_> I changed the theme
[12:33] <holyguyver_> I changed it to Redmond
[12:33] <GryzorX> that ought to explain why your's look like Win9X
[12:33] <holyguyver_> :p LoL
[12:34] <TheSheep> Redmond = Microsoft HQ
[12:35] <holyguyver_> GryzorX but I am right now on a 1998 Gateway with a 4GB harddrive & 90MB ram.
[12:35] <GryzorX> That also explains why you had that "strange" (if anything) taste :)
[12:35] <TheSheep> holyguyver_: murrine, the default gtk theme, is actually pretty fast
[12:36] <GryzorX> Does (x)ubuntu has anything like System Profiler in OS X? (to see the hardware)
[12:36] <TheSheep> GryzorX: lshw
[12:36] <holyguyver_> Yes it does
[12:36] <holyguyver_> Yeah I was going to say that
[12:37] <GryzorX> thanks
[12:37] <holyguyver_> GryzorX & that is a terminal cammand
[12:37] <GryzorX> i'm on a Pentium M 1700Mhz with 512Mb Ram
[12:38] <GryzorX> yeah, I figured that out
[12:38] <holyguyver_> I am on a PentiumIII
[12:38] <GryzorX> Pentium® power :)
[12:39] <holyguyver_> Yeah I know what you mean my PC before this was a 1995 PentiumI
[12:40] <holyguyver_> One day I wish to have enough money to buy a new computer & one of those new fangled flat monitars, mine is like a foot deep/thick.
[12:40] <holyguyver_> (foot as in USA messurments)
[12:40] <GryzorX> If it works, don't fix it :)
[12:41] <holyguyver_> well lots of my hardware is on the linux driver remove because old & obsolete list, so perhaps I should upgrade.
[12:42] <holyguyver_> My sound card is on the remove for obsolete list, & my bios are marked as "past cutoff date"
[12:42] <GryzorX> my linux box is this Toshiba notebook that a friend of mine discarded.
[12:42] <GryzorX> but works like a charm with linux
[12:43] <GryzorX> My main box is a Macbook pro, so I use both OSes :)
[12:43] <holyguyver_> Well so far this 1998 is the newest computer I have ever owned
[12:43] <whileimhere> Hi.
[12:43] <GryzorX> hi
[12:43] <holyguyver_> hi
[12:43] <GryzorX> at least you have one holyguyver_ ;)
[12:43] <whileimhere> I was wondering about the autostarted appliations. Is that like the GNOME services dialog?
[12:44] <GryzorX> I don't know much 'about xfce4 but it looks like the same stuff.
[12:44] <holyguyver_> I don't know, I have never used it
[12:44] <holyguyver_> I pronounce it x-face is that currect?
[12:45] <whileimhere> Can I uncheck the print Queue Applet and Restricted Drivers Manager if I dont use a printer and well I dont have any restricted drivers other than the old style 56K modem.
[12:45] <GryzorX> i'd say x-f c e. (spelling out letters)
[12:45] <GryzorX> but I'm not a native english speaker.
[12:45] <Ben_Cs> hello
[12:46] <holyguyver_> Well I know I pronounce gnome wrong, I pronunce it nome, but I don't care :p
[12:46] <Ben_Cs> for some reason on hardy, vlc doesn't show subtitles. anyone knows how to fix it?
[12:46] <GryzorX> whileimhere: i think that you can safetely uncheck those if you don't use them.
[12:46] <holyguyver_> yeah use smplayer instead :p
[12:48] <Ben_Cs> holyguyver_: vlc is light and supports almost all formats
[12:48] <Ben_Cs> holyguyver_: but i'll give your player a try
[12:48] <whileimhere> This is not really a poll okay. I was used to using Sound Juicer to make my ogg files from my CDs. I would like to switch to something lighter on here. Is there anything out there?
[12:48] <holyguyver_> smplayer is heavy, but also supports almost all formats :p
[12:49] <holyguyver_> this heavy advise coming from someone using a 98 :p
[12:49] <holyguyver_> my computer freezed up well playing mp3s :p
[12:50] <holyguyver_> freezes(currently)
[12:50] <whileimhere> Well I have to run right now. BBL
[12:50] <holyguyver_> yes my computer even freezes well playing mp3s in xmms :p
[12:51] <holyguyver_> So maybe my advise on playing movies is not the best :p
[12:59] <Ben_Cs> holyguyver_: this player is really bloated. still vlc is the best one. and anyway i would use mplayer instead of smplayer cause ther's no need in that bloated coat
[13:01] <holyguyver_> I agree, it is a bit bloated, well which every one works for you :)
[13:03] <holyguyver_> Ben is complaining about bloat...hmm he must be on a 93 computer :p
[13:12] <flotishu> firestarter problem since i removed it , then instaled kmyfirewall. removed it. and reinstalled firestarter. http://pastebin.com/m723ea818     some apps like firefox or etherape are not runing too.  help?
[13:15] <TheSheep> flotishu: try uninstalling it with --purge and installing back
[13:15] <flotishu> with --purge or with -purge ?
[13:15] <flotishu> TheSheep i did that already
[13:16] <TheSheep> and there was no /etc/firestarter after you did?
[13:17] <flotishu> when i --purged ?
[13:18] <flotishu> i reinstalled it now. and its $ cd /etc/firestarter
[13:18] <flotishu> user1@computer1:/etc/firestarter$ ls
[13:18] <flotishu> non-routables
[13:20] <flotishu> what does non-routables mean any way?
[13:20] <TheSheep> no idea
[13:20] <TheSheep> never used firestarter
[13:21] <flotishu> k
[13:26] <flotishu_>  firestarter problem since i removed it , then instaled kmyfirewall. removed it. and reinstalled firestarter. http://pastebin.com/m723ea818     some apps like firefox or etherape are not runing too.  help?
[13:35] <suriro> flotishu_: you have to configure firestarter, it displays a GUI dialog after those no such file errors..
[13:36] <flotishu_> hm
[13:36] <flotishu_> no. it doesnt
[13:37] <suriro> try starting it from menus, under apps>internet I suppose
[13:43] <flotishu_> same
[14:00] <flotishu_>  firestarter problem since i removed it , then instaled kmyfirewall. removed it. and reinstalled firestarter. http://pastebin.com/m723ea818     some apps like firefox or etherape are not runing too.  help?
[14:09] <flotishu_> how to send a message on a windows client machine ?
[14:12] <Stroganoff> what kind of message?
[14:15] <benny__> hello. for some reason ntfs-config doesn't ask me for password and doesn't give access to make changes. please help
[15:16] <daftpun1> Could some1 tell me where can I find startup script?
[15:17] <daftpun1> there is one applet that is asking for access to default keyring and I have to enter the password everytime i turn my comp on
[15:17] <daftpun1> is it possible just to add it there on startup?
[15:34] <daftpun1> hi anybody here?
[15:36] <TheSheep> daftpun1: no
[15:37] <Stroganoff> daftpun1 you could add the applet to sudoers
[15:40] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[15:48] <B1gT1me> Does xubuntu generally recognize 2gig RAM?
[15:49] <TheSheep> bdude99999_: it does recognize my 2 gigs
[15:49] <TheSheep> bdude99999_: sorry
[15:49] <TheSheep> B1gT1me: it does for me
[15:50] <B1gT1me> TheSheep: Thanks--I'm getting one of those ASUS eee micro-notebooks and want to switch out the OS and upgrade the RAM
[15:51] <bdude99999_> I am looking for someone to create an xubuntu or ubuntu liveCD for me.  i need it customized.  willing to pay for itś development
[15:52] <TheSheep> bdude99999_: ubuntu has paid support, you can check the canonical.com website for details
[15:53] <TheSheep> bdude99999_: there is also a really nice graphical tool for doing it, so maybe you'd manage to do it yourself
[15:53] <bdude99999_> ive tried many times to do it myself, and the cds never work.  so i am looking for someone to create it for me
[15:56] <daftpun1> ﻿Stroganoff are you still here? sorry, add it where?
[15:57] <daftpun1> ﻿Stroganoff i am useless with linux , i used it for 3 days for the mo. Where can I find sudoers?
[15:58] <TheSheep> B1gT1me: I'm not entirely sure, but the Asus EEE bios might have some kind of a lock on the memory
[16:00] <B1gT1me> TheSheep:  Apparently the default Xandros OS only recognizes 1GB RAM (the machine ships with 512)--but other Debian distros recognize 2gig
[16:30] <daftpun1> Does anybody know how to set password for default keyring so i'ts not asking for it every time I log in?
[16:30] <daftpun1> Or can I just change it to blank?
[17:58] <jburd> How does one completely remove xubuntu?
[17:58] <jburd> I have ubuntu installed already.
[17:58] <jburd> Removing xubuntu-desktop will remove only the meta package.
[17:59] <jburd> Or reconfigure xfce4
[18:00] <jburd> I have no window decorator.
[18:02] <jburd> And while compiz --replace in a session works, editing /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc to use compiz instead of xfwm4 didn't work.  Restoring it back to xfwm4 doesn't restore the decorator back now either.
[18:04] <lucife1> ﻿hello. Last night I was watching a Veoh movie from A website and the browser got stuck. when I restarted the pc the top and bottom panel was missing. even when I restarted again and again the top and bottom panel didn't appear. so I had to install Xubuntu again. What shall I do if something like this happens again?
[18:20] <daftpun1> hi everyone
[18:21] <daftpun1> i wanted to remove default keyring so it doesn't ask me for a password everytime I login, and I've done quite a lot of damage to my system
[18:22] <daftpun1> I had to delete both files involved in this gdm and gdm-autologin
[18:22] <daftpun1> does any1 know how to recover them?
[18:22] <daftpun1> can I just reinstall keyring package?
[18:29] <gnomefreak> try xubuntu-desktop
[18:31] <daftpun1> do you mean reinstall it?
[18:36] <gnomefreak> daftpun1: yes
[18:36] <gnomefreak> deci: it should bring all depends back in
[18:37] <gnomefreak> if its installed use apt-get to remove it and aptitude or apt-get to install it
[18:37] <gnomefreak> daftpun1: sorry that is for you
[19:14] <Roy> hello!
[19:14] <Roy_Mustang> !opera
[19:14] <Roy_Mustang> !flash
[19:24] <Roy_Mustang> how should i do to get Flash Player to work on Opera? i've done: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree , afeter download and install, Opera can't play any flash element ..
[20:07] <chi11y> hmm, where is restricted-manager in xubuntu 8.04?
[20:08] <chi11y> jockey-gtk isn't helping me getting my nvidia geforce 2 card running :(
[20:37] <Genesis> ﻿yo guys, im running xubuntu with fluxbox, and i somehow loading into my xfdesktop, and i was wanting to know how i would lock the screen through the terminal?
[20:38] <Genesis> im running 8.04 if it matters?
[20:44] <Genesis> can any1 help me?
[20:48] <h4mx0r> how can I use xfdesktop with fluxbox?
[20:49] <Stroganoff> yes
[20:49] <Stroganoff> try my script if you want to combine different lightweight desktop parts:
[20:49] <Stroganoff> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631
[20:50] <h4mx0r> when I try to put "exec xfdesktop &" it won't let me reach fluxbox menu, some things are "locked". and I got lot of extra things like mcs manager, xinit, bashes
[20:52] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: nice, what are sharp fonts?
[20:53] <Stroganoff> using the same fonts as in winxp-classic
[20:53] <Stroganoff> http://www.abload.de/img/openbox-pcmanfm-fbpavc1.png
[20:53] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: looking very good, have you ever thought of writing a book?
[20:54] <Stroganoff> i'm planning to write some pages of illustrated manual, yes
[20:54] <h4mx0r> they look good but is there some sort of font rendering speed or advantage?
[20:56] <Stroganoff> if yes then minor
[20:56] <h4mx0r> are they proprietary or something?
[20:57] <Stroganoff> grey zone
[20:57] <Stroganoff> they are released as freeware
[20:58] <h4mx0r> oh
[21:04] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: ah crap how do I go back a menu I forgot to check something
[21:05] <Stroganoff> press ctrl+c rapidly
[21:05] <Stroganoff> and begin anew
[21:05] <Stroganoff> sry :D
[21:06] <h4mx0r> lol np
[21:07] <h4mx0r> it lists network manager, does it do anything new with network manager because I'm not happy with default one
[21:07] <h4mx0r> how come you put swiftfox instead of swiftweasel?
[21:07] <Stroganoff> no it doesnt
[21:08] <Stroganoff> was the first one that caught my attention
[21:08] <Stroganoff> i dont recommend swiftfox though
[21:08] <Stroganoff> until fx3 is mature
[21:08] <h4mx0r> oh k
[21:09] <thinkmassive> I just setup NFS on my server and I my client is failing with "RPC Error: Program not registered"
[21:10] <thinkmassive> from what I've read, this could be due to not having permission in /etc/hosts.allow but I listed my entire subnet there, and I don't see any related messages in /var/log/messages
[21:11] <Stroganoff> thinkmassive i'd ask in #linux
[21:11] <h4mx0r> lmao! "Default applications: Instant messenger Which file manager do you prefer Pidgin Multi-protocol IM aMSN MSN client"
[21:12] <Stroganoff> oops
[21:13] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: microsoft network for file managing, darn windows what will they think of next :/
[21:14] <h4mx0r> what does klogd do?
[21:15] <thinkmassive> arrghghghg joining #linux is crashing my irc client, what an excellent friday afternoon
[21:15] <blust66> hi , have download last iso image ..but nero refuse to burn on dvd ..there workaround?
[21:15] <blust66> ..last cd img
[21:15] <thinkmassive> h4mx0r: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4058
[21:15] <h4mx0r> blust66: if your on windows right now use isorecorder
[21:15] <blust66> tnx
[21:17] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: does this "script" have an uninstall and/or can it be upgraded past 8.04 when time comes?
[21:17] <Stroganoff> it can be upgraded
[21:18] <h4mx0r> I just don't want to go all unstable and break something
[21:18] <stevethefiddle> Is this the place to seek help with Xubuntu problems?
[21:18] <Stroganoff> yes stevethefiddle
[21:18] <stevethefiddle> 1st time using IRC, so sorry if I do things wrong here
[21:18] <Stroganoff> h4mx0r i wouldn't expect it to go unstable
[21:19] <h4mx0r> stevethefiddle: no prob, what client you using?
[21:20] <thinkmassive> why does that matter?
[21:20] <stevethefiddle> Pidgin
[21:20] <stevethefiddle> I've upgraded to 8.10 and have lost desktop icons for other partitions
[21:21] <h4mx0r> me too :)
[21:21] <h4mx0r> it pisses me off how pidgin doesn't support the up arrow history function when on irc
[21:21] <stevethefiddle> FAT32 and NTFS partitions are mounted and I can read/write
[21:21] <stevethefiddle> just no desktop icons
[21:22] <h4mx0r> umm there is no 8.10
[21:22] <stevethefiddle> not i "Places" either
[21:22] <Stroganoff> stevethefiddle that problems seems to be common in hardy
[21:22] <stevethefiddle> oops 8.04
[21:22] <h4mx0r> stevethefiddle: umm common problem open settings and choose desktop then uncheck and recheck allow xfdesktop to control desktop hope it works
[21:22] <Stroganoff> look up fstab arguments for write support. add the mountpoints to your thunar bookmarks. apart than that, i dont know
[21:23] <h4mx0r> Stroganoff: your scripts skype download is slow as mud :(
[21:23] <Stroganoff> h4mx0r thats the medibuntu repo
[21:24] <Stroganoff> btw that script was supposed to be run on a bare command line installation (using the alternate ubuntu iso)
[21:24] <h4mx0r> too late now muahaha
[21:27] <stevethefiddle> Will try that ﻿h4mx0r - looks like I need to log out and back in again?
[21:27] <h4mx0r> well I stopped it, was just downloading stuff. Do I need to finish it?
[21:27] <h4mx0r> stevethefiddle: why would you do that?
[21:27] <stevethefiddle> Just checking/unchecking that box does nothing
[21:28] <stevethefiddle> message says that changes will be when i next log in
[21:28] <h4mx0r> well that's incorrect message
[21:28] <h4mx0r> which box you checking?
[21:29] <h4mx0r> Allow xfce to manage the desktop one?
[21:29] <stevethefiddle> "Allow Xfce to manage the desktop"
[21:30] <h4mx0r> strange it never said that to me
[21:30] <h4mx0r> well goodluck
[21:30] <h4mx0r> I'm going to go mess with my system
[21:30] <stevethefiddle> Well i know how to get here now - I'll be back :D
[21:37] <stevethefiddle> I'm trying to get my desktop icons for hdd partitions - they disappeared after upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 - Disks are mounted ok, but not showing on desktop or in "Places" - I hear this is a common problem, but has anyone solved it?
[21:38] <thinkmassive> deja vu
[21:40] <stevethefiddle> deja who?
[21:41] <thinkmassive> all over again :-P
[21:43] <stevethefiddle> I'm new to this IRC thing - 64 people in room, but only me and thinkmassive showing up in conversation - is that 'cos everyone else is busy elsewhere or what?
[21:43] <thinkmassive> yeah people mostly idle in here... mostly
[21:43] <thinkmassive> try #ubuntu also, a lot more activity there
[21:43] <thinkmassive> you can join multiple chan's at one
[21:43] <thinkmassive> at once
[21:44] <stevethefiddle> oh - so people have their irc client open, are logged in, but not looking?
[21:44] <thinkmassive> yup
[21:44] <stevethefiddle> k :)
[21:44] <stevethefiddle> will try logging into ubuntu
[21:45] <thinkmassive>  /j #ubuntu
[21:46] <stevethefiddle> cheers - got it
[22:00] <stevethefiddle> It was suggested that I run gconf-config, but that's for gnome isn't it?
[22:00] <stevethefiddle> any point installing it for this problem in Xubuntu?
[22:02] <stevethefiddle> i read that gconf-config is not recommended way to change settings
[22:04] <stevethefiddle> tried Google - nothing. tried the ubuntu forum - nothing, tried #Xubuntu irc - nothing so far
[22:04] <stevethefiddle> anywhere else to look for help?
[22:05] <thinkmassive> you can always post on a forum and be patient
[22:06] <stevethefiddle> 3 days so far
[22:06] <stevethefiddle> found similar posts from weeks ago with no replies
[22:07] <thinkmassive> well 8.04 was just released a week or two ago
[22:07] <thinkmassive> I guess two, since it was April
[22:08] <stevethefiddle> yes, 2 weeks - i guess i exagerated a bit :)
[22:09] <stevethefiddle> still can't find any info about it though
[22:09] <stevethefiddle> was hoping someone here might have some ideas
[22:12] <stevethefiddle> let's try another one:
[22:13] <stevethefiddle> Error message from Browse C:/Drive (Wine) "Failed to open URL "~/.wine/drive_c".
[22:13] <stevethefiddle> The URL "~/.wine/drive_c" is not supported. "
[22:13] <thinkmassive> what browser are you using?
[22:14] <stevethefiddle> browser?
[22:14] <thinkmassive> where does that error appear?
[22:14] <stevethefiddle> Got WINE installed - Applications menu > ﻿Browse C:/Drive
[22:15] <stevethefiddle> Thunar should open but get error message instead
[22:15] <stevethefiddle> seems to be a problem with "xdg-open"
[22:16] <stevethefiddle> If I run "xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c" in a terminal window, the directory opens fine
[22:17] <stevethefiddle> If I type "xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c" in a command line (Alt+F2) I get the error
[22:18] <thinkmassive> replace ~ with /home/<username>
[22:18] <thinkmassive> where <username> is your username
[22:19] <stevethefiddle> The desktop configuration file "Browse C: Drive" has the line "Exec=xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c"
[22:19] <stevethefiddle> K - I'll try that
[22:20] <stevethefiddle> No - just the same
[22:21] <thinkmassive> do you have ~/.wine ?
[22:21] <stevethefiddle> If I tick "Run in terminal" I also get the line "Error showing url: The location or file could not be found." come up in the terminal window
[22:21] <thinkmassive> sounds like something is missing
[22:22] <stevethefiddle> the folder ﻿~/.wine is present
[22:23] <stevethefiddle> it opens if i type ﻿xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c directly into a terminal window
[22:24] <thinkmassive> oh, xdg-open "opens a file or URL in the user's preferred application" so maybe you haven't defined your preferred app in 8.04
[22:24] <thinkmassive> oh I see, but it doesn't work from console (ctrl+alt+F2)?
[22:25] <stevethefiddle> Alt+F2 - no that's correct
[22:25] <thinkmassive> oh alt+f2 is "run program"
[22:26] <stevethefiddle> Just tried "xdg-open /home/user/.wine/drive_c" and that works
[22:26] <thinkmassive> that's what I told you to try a while ago
[22:26] <stevethefiddle> (my user name of course0
[22:26] <thinkmassive> why can't you just use that?
[22:27] <stevethefiddle> I guess i must have made a typo the first time
[22:27] <stevethefiddle> Yes I can use that
[22:28] <stevethefiddle> I'll try editing the ﻿desktop configuration file
[22:29] <Olgem> Will xubuntu run on my non-i686 compatible CPU? Its a VIA C3 Samual 2, which is missing some opcodes such as CMOV, and is only i586 compatible. I thought that since xubuntu is made to run on older hardware the devs might compile it as flat i386.
[22:30] <thinkmassive> the iso I got is for i386
[22:30] <brax> question for anoyone listening... I do not see a build of Xubuntu 8.04 for PPC... is there any way to run it on a PPC?  or do I need to use 6.01?  I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on my ppc, but would like to switch to Xubuntu.  Any thoughts?
[22:30] <Olgem> thinkmassive, many distributions like i386 but when they actually are compiled for newer i686 CPUs.
[22:31] <Olgem> Brax, why don't you just install xfce-desktop or whatever metapackage provides xfce? That would be easier, I dont think they provide PPC ISOs anymore.
[22:31] <thinkmassive> brax: http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=427714
[22:31] <Olgem> s/like/list
[22:32] <thinkmassive> why would they list an incompatible architecture?
[22:32] <Olgem> thinkmassive, i686 is backwards compatible with i386, but i386 CPUs are not forwards compatible with i686 software.
[22:32] <stevethefiddle> back again
[22:32] <Olgem> When I try and boot a i686 ISO on my computer, it does a hard reboot.
[22:33] <stevethefiddle> thanks thinkmassive - that worked
[22:33] <thinkmassive> exactly, why would they mislabel something i386 when, in fact, it is i686?
[22:33] <Olgem> I think I heard that ubuntu uses a i386 compiled userland but an i686 kernel. Something along those lines.
[22:34] <Olgem> I don't really know, this is why I'm asking. :X
[22:34] <thinkmassive> Olgem: I would just try it
[22:34] <thinkmassive> I see no reason to label something wrong
[22:35] <thinkmassive> I finally got NFS working, stupid firewall issue
[22:35] <Olgem> Well, I've tried it with xubuntu 7.04, and it does a hard reboot for that reason, as with ubuntu and kubuntu. I was hoping possibly maybe a new release might have brought about some changes as xubuntu seems to be targetted at older hardware.
[22:36] <thinkmassive> did you try a release labeled i386 or i686?
[22:36] <Olgem> Its been a while, but do they really have seperate ISOs for i386 *and* i686?
[22:36] <thinkmassive> I haven't seen any for i386
[22:36] <thinkmassive> er
[22:36] <thinkmassive> i686, sorry
[22:37] <Olgem> Hmmm.
[22:37] <brax> I will check that stuff out guys.... Thank you!
[22:38] <thinkmassive> Olgem: you might need to use the alternate install cd if you have less than 128mb of ram
[22:38] <Olgem> I have 512mb of ram, I use the alternative install anyway to set up encrypted LVM
[22:38] <Olgem> here is an interesting thread about it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=367665
[22:39] <Olgem> ooops
[22:39] <Olgem> Well, I guess thats not the right one.
[22:39] <thinkmassive> have you tried booting xubuntu?
[22:40] <Olgem> On an old release, and it had failed to boot.
[22:40] <thinkmassive> I dunno, try the new one and see if there's an issue
[22:40] <thinkmassive> if there is, then start troubleshooting
[22:40] <thinkmassive> no point in trying to solve a problem that doesn't yet exist
[22:41] <thinkmassive> sorry I'm not more help now, but until you try there's nowhere to go
[22:41] <thinkmassive> and I'm getting out of the office, later on!
[22:41] <Olgem> The only way I can trouble shoot would be to master my own ISO and recompile the entire base distro as <i585 :(
[22:55] <brax> anyone off hand remember the fix to that funky graphics issue with Xubuntu 8.04... the display is all jittery?
[22:56] <C|-|R15> any know why windows (minimised) do not show on the workspaces? kind of fustrating and makes forget windows open but minimised.....ideas any one?
[22:58] <C|-|R15> is it just a workspace panel resolution issue?
[23:02] <C|-|R15> guess no one about today
[23:06] <brax> Is Xubuntu meerly just a absolute copy of the Ubuntu build with a slipstreamed Xfce windowmanager, or has some of the kernel been tweaked etc?
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> brax: the former...
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> i believe the kernels are identical
[23:08] <brax> OKay
[23:11] <brax> just figured it would be a bit faster on a PPC laptop
[23:15] <C|-|R15> its a little faster than normal ubuntu on an old laptop....im using xubuntu on 533mhz laptop
[23:16] <C|-|R15> brax....ubuntu seems better if you then use lxde
[23:17] <C|-|R15> sorry xubuntu installed then with lxde
[23:19] <brax> what is lxde?
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> brax: Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> I like it!
[23:20] <C|-|R15> lightweight X11 Destop environment
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> http://lxde.sf.net
[23:21] <C|-|R15> kind of like gnome on crack....
[23:21] <C|-|R15> makes things smoother and faster on my old 533mhz machine im using now
[23:22] <C|-|R15> probably gnome on speed....not crack.....LOL
[23:22] <brax> is there anything that needs to be configed to fire that up?  Or is it launched by default?
[23:22] <C|-|R15> you just need to add to the sources.list then apt-get
[23:23] <C|-|R15> install then when you go to log in choose that from option
[23:24] <C|-|R15> I have then written on paper here....I can type them in if you want
[23:25] <C|-|R15> but i'm using gutsy.....8.04 would not seem to install
[23:25] <C|-|R15> (L)ubuntu would be very nice! if and when it gets round to that
[23:27] <Genesis> yo guys, how can i lock my screen through terminal?
[23:28] <C|-|R15> combined I used PCManFM another lightweight file manager which again can install from apt-get once you add address to sources.list
[23:29] <C|-|R15> but at the moment i'm using xubuntu as normal..so depends on your laptop as if you can get away without lxde
[23:29] <C|-|R15> it did it this way as could not really get into DamnSmallLinux
[23:30] <C|-|R15> after using ubuntu for years
[23:33] <C|-|R15> my current specs that I'm using at this very moment are: laptop 533mhz - 192MB ram - 6gig HD, and guessing 16MB or maybe 32MB graphics (if lucky) and xubuntu running fine...slow....but fine for resurrecting old laptop from M$ 95 devil
[23:33] <Genesis> can any1 help me?
[23:33] <C|-|R15> so that help you Brax?
[23:37] <C|-|R15> whats problem genesis
[23:37] <Genesis> how can i lock my screen through terminal
[23:37] <Genesis> cause im running fluxbox, and im in a xfdesktop
[23:37] <Genesis> so i dont have the poweroff button to lock it, and Control Alt L doesnt work
[23:38] <brax> C|-|R15, yes.. than k you so much!
[23:38] <brax> I will check it out
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> Genesis: you need either gnome-screensaver, or xscreensaver.
[23:39] <Genesis> i downloaded x screensaver
[23:39] <Genesis> but how do i lock it using that?
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> Genesis: for xscreensaver, it is "xscreensaver-command -l"
[23:39] <Genesis> acorn@DeNub:~$ xscreensaver-command -l
[23:39] <Genesis> xscreensaver-command: no screensaver is running on display :0.0
[23:39] <Genesis> acorn@DeNub:~$
[23:39] <Genesis> ?
[23:39] <C|-|R15> cannot go wrong with (x)ubuntu brax...best distro
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> Genesis: start screensaver first
[23:40] <Genesis> o
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> xscreensaver &
[23:40] <Genesis> o ok
[23:40] <brax> well... I am more used to running the Core's or Gentoo... this is the first time I am playing with a *buntu
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> Genesis: you can start screensaver in your ~/.fluxbox start up file.
[23:41] <Genesis> ok
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> i think the line was "xscreensaver --no-splash &
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> don't quite remember...
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> been a while since i used fluxbox...
[23:42] <brax> I wanted to run Fluxbuntu... but I there was nothing pre-built for the ppc... so I decided to try xubuntu
[23:42] <C|-|R15> once you convert there's no going back...lol....I was mandrake, then suse for a little..all the while with ubuntu at side.,...and stuck with it now...gets better and better
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> I found Arch. Been liking it so far...
[23:43] <C|-|R15> xubuntu has never gave me any problems...and like i said im on a piece of crap machine....lol
[23:43] <Genesis> i used slackware for a while, then got a more powerful pc
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> firefox took forever to load up on my xubuntu machine...
[23:44] <C|-|R15> yeah is slow to boot, but once up seems fine
[23:44] <Genesis> lol, that sounded like wen i tried ubuntu for a whole day <_>
[23:44] <C|-|R15> but having 533mhz hard to compare
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> got to go eat...
[23:44] <C|-|R15> Puppy was nice on my even older machine
[23:45] <C|-|R15> but would not install properly onto hard drive and so has to boot from cd each time....perhaps newer version is improved
[23:56] <sponix> what is AWN, and has anyone tried it ?
 after upgrading to ubuntu hardy, some user profiles hang just after login. how do I kill/troubleshoot?
[23:57] <jamiejackson> (xubuntu that is)
[23:59] <jamiejackson> hmm, quit's same as gnome ctrl-alt-bs
[23:59] <jamiejackson> but why might the profiles be hanging?