[21:20] <alecs> hi there
[21:20] <Flannel> Howdy alecs
[21:20] <alecs> could you help me with some guide lines about this upgrade ?
[21:20] <Flannel> alecs: You're sure you want to try it?
[21:21] <alecs> yeah ...
[21:21] <alecs> i want the server up and running until tommorow night
[21:21] <Flannel> I thught I read something in #ubuntu about you already trying to go to feisty?  is that true?
[21:21] <alecs> because is devel server
[21:22] <alecs> yea i have tried to go tu gutsy actually (7.10)
[21:22] <Flannel> How far did you get?
[21:22] <alecs> machine that i use to speak with you is a gutsy too
[21:22] <alecs> well ... until i have downloaded the sources
[21:22] <Flannel> Since, depending on what happened with that, we may not be able to go to breezy without a lot of anguish
[21:22] <alecs> and then crashed a lot of things ....
[21:23] <alecs> i am allready installing fresh linux (5.04)
[21:23] <Flannel> Oh, you installed this fresh?
[21:24] <Flannel> and can't install a newer version why again?
[21:24] <alecs> i am doing this right now ...
[21:24] <alecs> because ... i do not have the install CD with me ...
[21:24] <alecs> i am 80 km from that CD
[21:24] <Flannel> And you can't download an burn another? or netboot or something to get it?
[21:24] <alecs> and is allready 11.34 here (PM)
[21:25] <Flannel> right, but we're going to be doing quite a bit to upgrade you to dapper even, two upgrades.
[21:25] <Flannel> Alright, well, we're following these guides, more or less: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:25] <Flannel> This is a fresh install of Hoary?
[21:26] <alecs> of ubuntu 5.04
[21:27] <Flannel> alecs: right.  Alright, we'll want to change our sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com instead of whatever is in there.  you can go ahead and do that now.
[21:27] <alecs> w8 for a sec ...
[21:27] <Flannel> And while you're there, go ahead and change hoary to breezy
[21:27] <Flannel> on all the lines
[21:28] <alecs> ok
[21:29] <alecs> now booting ...
[21:29] <alecs> i have to configure my network and after that we shall see
[21:30] <alecs> by the way what is default root password?
[21:30] <Flannel> There is no root password, the root account is locked
[21:31] <alecs> well ... how do i unlock it ...
[21:31] <alecs> ?
[21:31] <Flannel> You don't need to, use sudo instead
[21:31] <alecs> ok
[21:31] <alecs> i know about that ;)
[21:32] <alecs> ok
[21:32] <alecs> what do i change in source list ///
[21:32] <alecs> i will comment cd-rom line
[21:33] <Flannel> change all the URLs to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:33] <Flannel> and then change the hoarys to breezys
[21:36] <alecs> ok
[21:37] <alecs> i have changed to breezy
[21:37] <alecs> now i should run
[21:37] <alecs>   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:37] <Flannel> yeah
[21:38] <alecs> hmmm
[21:38] <alecs> i have some problems
[21:38] <Flannel> Which ones?
[21:38] <alecs> could not stat source package list http://old-releases.ubuntu.com breezy/main
[21:39] <alecs> could not stat source package list http://old-releases.ubuntu.com breezy/ universe
[21:39] <alecs> and all
[21:39] <Flannel> alright, paste (here) a single line from your sources.list
[21:39] <Flannel> (obviously, not one thats commented out)
[21:40] <alecs> loool
[21:40] <alecs> let me check something
[21:42] <alecs> works now
[21:42] <alecs> :D
[21:43] <alecs> my stupid person has forgot to configure the ppp connection ... and rise up eth0
[21:43] <alecs> i will run this now
[21:43] <alecs> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:45] <alecs> now it works .. i will check those
[21:45] <alecs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:46] <Flannel> alecs: Once you're upgraded to breezy, you can upgrade to dapper like that page says, you'll need to change your repo URLs again, as old-releases won't have the supported versions.  You should switch to your local mirror for best performance
[21:47] <alecs> hmmm ..
[21:47] <alecs> located in romania ...
[21:47] <alecs> if i recall
[21:48] <alecs> ftp.iasi.roedu.net is the nearest
[21:51] <alecs> BTW ... do you know if developers will include Qmail into the repository ?
[21:57] <Flannel> !mirrors
[21:57] <alecs> ok...
[21:58] <alecs> still i will not pass to hardy yet ...
[22:26] <alecs> what sould i change to bring up my eth0 at startup time ?
[22:39] <Eharan_XW> can anyone point me at a good clear guide for deb packaging?  --  i know rpm, and have tried to get my head around deb but it seems really messy
[23:00] <nalioth> Eharan_XW: ask uncle google "debian new maintainers guide"