| fta | because it's the default :) | 00:04 |
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| gnomefre1k | will --enable-static fix the addon issue in tbird? i may build it here for local use i miss enigmail? | 00:11 |
| gnomefre1k | sorry i meant shared | 00:18 |
| Jazzva | gnomefreak: if it's enabled by default, I suppose it won't change anything if you explicitly state --enable-shared... | 00:19 |
| gnomefre1k | Jazzva: static is default shared is what mozilla tells us to do | 00:20 |
| gnomefre1k | yes confusing if you ask me | 00:20 |
| === asac__ is now known as asac | ||
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| fta | shared is default, unless you ask for static, which we don't, so all is shared for us | 00:25 |
| gnomefreak | didnt the bug say to build with shared and you replied that you only build with static? | 00:28 |
| fta | the opposite | 00:29 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 00:29 |
| gnomefreak | but why would mozilla tell you to build non-default if they build with default | 00:29 |
| gnomefreak | i never did get that when i read bug | 00:29 |
| fta | but this bug is a big misunderstanding, i wanted make install to do something, he understood i wanted to build the mozilla installer, which i can't care less about | 00:31 |
| fta | part of the confusion could be that i've used package-static as file name | 00:31 |
| fta | but it's not related to the addons issue anyway | 00:31 |
| fta | i haven't investigated that, i thought asac would, apparently he doesn't care about tb3 | 00:32 |
| fta | and i'm no longer using tb* so it doesn't help | 00:33 |
| fta | i've spent a lot of time on songbird | 00:33 |
| fta | but reading latest comment from asac in the songbird packaging bug, it seems to me he doesn't want this package either | 00:35 |
| fta | so like for sm2, i'm all by myself | 00:35 |
| fta | feel free to help, all those branches are in ~mt | 00:36 |
| gnomefreak | i can do that :) if you need something dont forget to ask if i dont already know about it | 00:43 |
| gnomefreak | asac_: ummm can you stay connected long enough to let me know what we are doing with ff and dapper? | 00:43 |
| gnomefreak | i ran into a dapper bug :( | 00:43 |
| gnomefreak | fta: support+dapper+firefox? | 00:44 |
| asac_ | gnomefreak: ? | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | bug149611 | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | bug 149611 | 01:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 149611 in firefox "[dapper] firefox crashes with segmentation fault - new behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149611 | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | its dapper+firefox 1.5 | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | do we say we nologer support firefox for dapper? | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | 1.5 or 2.0 | 01:02 |
| asac_ | no ... we support it | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | we suport 1.5? | 01:02 |
| asac_ | yes | 01:03 |
| gnomefreak | that would mean we just patch it no security updatess | 01:03 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: we provide security updates ;) | 01:13 |
| asac | thats how we support it | 01:13 |
| asac | if there are critical regressions due to those security backports we fix them too | 01:13 |
| asac | everything else is pretty much wontfix | 01:13 |
| gnomefreak | ok good night atleast for a couple of hours. sorry for your email boxes | 01:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: ok | 01:13 |
| * gnomefreak needs to set up mutt or procmail or something tested based someday :) | 01:14 | |
| gnomefreak | ok night ladies and gents | 01:14 |
| asac_ | i really dont understand what bug 206884 is about | 01:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 206884 in firefox "Firefox uses the wrong display encoding" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206884 | 01:23 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| gnomefreak | asac: from what it looks like he thinks default encoding for firefox should beISO8859-1 but its using UTF8 | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | asac: that is the exact reason in ff3 go to view > Chariter encoding ISO8859-1 is not in there and its set to UTF-8 by default | 03:28 |
| fta | really ? http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/encoding.png | 03:41 |
| gnomefreak | even i dont have all that in menu | 03:42 |
| gnomefreak | i only have a couple of them | 03:43 |
| gnomefreak | is there a keycommbo for screenshot? | 03:43 |
| fta | printscreen | 03:44 |
| fta | or altgr printscreen (here) for just the window | 03:44 |
| fta | but you wont capture the menu | 03:44 |
| fta | you need a delay | 03:44 |
| fta | cu, it's late here | 03:44 |
| gnomefreak | i see them now :( | 03:45 |
| gnomefreak | fta: night | 03:45 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| fta | DarkMageZ, are you the same dmz who requested my songbird source package ? | 14:22 |
| DarkMageZ | fta, yes ッ | 15:14 |
| DarkMageZ | fta, please see lp bug #123934 & #159691 as my reference demonstrating some knowledge of the packaging system. if that's what was holding you back from just replying to the email :P | 15:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 123934 in libvisual-plugins "[debdiff] bunch of fixes for libvisual-plugins" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123934 | 15:44 |
| fta_ | hm, he's gone | 17:02 |
| fta_ | jcastro, ping | 17:05 |
| jcastro | fta_: yo | 17:08 |
| fta_ | jcastro, hi, could please re-assign https://edge.launchpad.net/songbird to mozillateam so i can edit that page ? | 17:09 |
| jcastro | sure | 17:09 |
| fta_ | as it's mozilla related, i think it makes sense | 17:09 |
| fta_ | thanks :) | 17:10 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| fta | i've published my branch for songbird in case someone is interested: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | 123 and counting :) | 19:19 |
| fta | ? | 19:23 |
| gnomefreak | old firefox-2 bugs | 19:31 |
| gnomefreak | [reed]: we have a date for EOSL for ff 2? | 19:31 |
| [reed] | 6 months after Fx3 | 19:32 |
| gnomefreak | 6 weeks you mean? | 19:32 |
| gnomefreak | security updates stop around x.0.0.15-16 i thought | 19:33 |
| [reed] | ? | 19:34 |
| [reed] | Firefox 2 will EOL 6 months after Firefox 3 is released. | 19:34 |
| gnomefreak | i saw 6 weeks in some post on google but if its 6 months wtf am i doing this for | 19:35 |
| [reed] | lol | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | asac: we still have ~7months at best for support of 2.0 | 19:36 |
| gnomefreak | http://markmail.org/message/rogxjohsrb6sw2yq | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt say i believed it but when you said 6 it hit me maybe hes right | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | well i closed over 160 bugs for no reason this is not gonna be good | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | make that right around 300 | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | 200 | 19:38 |
| gnomefreak | i have 120 and started at ~330 | 19:38 |
| * gnomefreak thinks on how to re word my statment for bugs | 19:40 | |
| gnomefreak | i think i was ablet o reword it :) | 19:44 |
| gnomefreak | asac: please set ISO889-1 default for all pages no matter what the encoding is, this guy is really working on my nerves, one site ff sets to UTF-8 and he has to write multiple bugs on the issue because noone has a clue what he is ranting about | 20:23 |
| * gnomefreak gone for a while | 20:29 | |
| alex_mayorga | Hello all, are there or would there be FF3 nightly .deb(s)? | 21:54 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: not really nightly at this point | 21:55 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: weekly is about rigth for this time of builod | 21:55 |
| gnomefreak | build | 21:55 |
| alex_mayorga | gnomefreak what's the repository for that weekly build? | 21:55 |
| * gnomefreak goes to look | 21:56 | |
| gnomefreak | i dont remember his PPA off hand and this might change | 21:56 |
| gnomefreak | oh shit | 21:56 |
| gnomefreak | thats what he meant | 21:57 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: you might have to wait a few hours | 21:57 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: here they are be very careful as other apps may want to update as well and some are not close to stable | 21:58 |
| gnomefreak | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main | 21:58 |
| gnomefreak | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main | 21:58 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: im not sure if they will work for next 2 hours or so since LP is going down | 21:58 |
| alex_mayorga | I already use that one, so I was pretty much on track, thanks | 21:59 |
| alex_mayorga | yes it updates my miro too, which is not bad I think | 21:59 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: yes thats latest and greatest at this moment. was tere something you were looking for? | 21:59 |
| alex_mayorga | gnomefreak, thanks | 22:00 |
| gnomefreak | s/there/tere | 22:00 |
| alex_mayorga | just the good old, "the newer, the better" :) | 22:00 |
| alex_mayorga | has ubuntu took much heat for shipping with FF3b5? | 22:00 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: the one you are running is next release for Mozilla | 22:00 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: yes but we did the best of 2 evils | 22:01 |
| * gnomefreak has that under control :) | 22:01 | |
| fta | hm, lp down, can't edit the wiki either | 22:08 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 22:15 |
| gnomefreak | will be down 2 hours | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | started 15 minutes ago | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | fta: they have been talking about it all week in email | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | wiki isnt on LP you should be fine editing it | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | oh shit | 22:16 |
| gnomefreak | wtf is wiki down for | 22:17 |
| fta | nope, read only | 22:17 |
| fta | i guess user database is from lp | 22:17 |
| gnomefreak | i see | 22:17 |
| gnomefreak | fta: am i here? | 22:18 |
| fta | yes :) | 22:19 |
| gnomefreak | for some reason when pasting the warning it uses /The | 22:19 |
| gnomefreak | LaserJock > gnomefreak: yeah, wiki is authenticated via Launchpad | 22:19 |
| gnomefreak | but PPA's work | 22:20 |
| fta | and bzr ? | 22:23 |
| fta | nope | 22:23 |
| fta | Using saved location: bzr+ssh://fta@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/ | 22:23 |
| fta | ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection refused | 22:23 |
| alex_mayorga | Is there a nice way to "kill" firefox when it becomes non responsive? | 22:24 |
| fta | [reed], there's no CVS tag for RC1 ? | 22:25 |
| fta | alex_mayorga, nope, the cross on top right of the window, then say kill, it should work most of the time | 22:26 |
| alex_mayorga | fta even that wont work, so I guess is kill -3 right? | 22:27 |
| fta | try -15 is nicer, then last resort -9 | 22:28 |
| alex_mayorga | never mind, looks like a 1 pixel dialog was created right in the center of the FF window, once I resized it and closed it FF went away, strange | 22:28 |
| alex_mayorga | I'll see if I can reproduce it | 22:28 |
| fta | oh, you just upgraded ? | 22:28 |
| alex_mayorga | moments ago from your PPA, is it broken? | 22:29 |
| fta | sounds like a ff3/xul upgrade without restart | 22:29 |
| fta | no | 22:29 |
| alex_mayorga | fta shall I log off and back in? | 22:29 |
| fta | it's a know ungraceful upgrade of all mozilla products | 22:29 |
| fta | no, just quit ff and restart it | 22:29 |
| alex_mayorga | wow, I've got a new license, so release is close by? | 22:30 |
| fta | eheh, the bzr attempt a few minutes ago was to prevent that license to popup | 22:30 |
| fta | yes, a RC is close | 22:31 |
| fta | "Assuming no new issues are found today the build team will start official prep work for Release Candidate 1 (RC1) tomorrow. QA will start their extensive RC1 test pass on Monday. If all goes well we should have the Release Candidate publicly available in late May. " | 22:32 |
| fta | if there's a CVS tag for this RC1, i can release a preview to my ppa | 22:33 |
| fta | hm, the last i see is THUNDERBIRD_3_0a1_BUILD1 / THUNDERBIRD_3_0a1_RELEASE | 22:37 |
| fta | no idea what UPDATE_PACKAGING_R4 and GECKO19_20080506_RELBRANCH are.. | 22:38 |
| fta | [reed], ^^ ? | 22:38 |
| fta | "RC1 is intended for wider scale public testing. Our 1.2M+ active beta users will automatically get updated to RC1 when it is released. If no new showstopper issues are found in RC1 it will become Firefox 3 final. If we find any critical issues we will continue to release new Release Candidates until we are ready for final ship" | 22:39 |
| alex_mayorga | yeah!! FF3 is coming | 22:46 |
| alex_mayorga | honestly I've yet have to see a show stopper myself | 22:47 |
| gnomefreak | alex_mayorga: there were a few blockers not sure how many are left but i think i still have link | 23:27 |
| gnomefreak | ah only 3 | 23:27 |
| gnomefreak | that was atleast 15 a few weeks ago | 23:28 |
| gnomefreak | fta: yeah meant to tell you it was still there this week | 23:29 |
| gnomefreak | fta: LP is back online i think | 23:30 |
| gnomefreak | yay | 23:30 |
| fta | what was still there? | 23:30 |
| gnomefreak | the license | 23:31 |
| fta | yes, i've just committed the fix | 23:31 |
| fta | and... pushed to my ppa. give it 15 min to be there | 23:34 |
| gnomefreak | k | 23:45 |
| gnomefreak | new libc6 | 23:46 |
| gnomefreak | fta: can we make tabs opened in firefox not take focus | 23:46 |
| gnomefreak | main widow focus is good but tabs yuck | 23:46 |
| gnomefreak | never new how much pidgin looks like gajim | 23:48 |
| gnomefreak | other than branding they look exactly alike | 23:49 |
| fta | did you try to toggle browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground ? | 23:50 |
| gnomefreak | no i can but still default shount interupt your work like that | 23:51 |
| fta | i won't change that in ff3, it's more for ubufox | 23:55 |
| fta | but it's usability, so people will never agree | 23:55 |
| fta | i prefer the tab to raise, but i don't want the window to raise or change desktop or the focus to be stolen | 23:56 |
| fta | it's all fine here. but i had to drop ubufox because of that | 23:56 |
| fta | did you read ? | 23:59 |
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