[00:04] because it's the default :) [00:11] will --enable-static fix the addon issue in tbird? i may build it here for local use i miss enigmail? [00:18] sorry i meant shared [00:19] gnomefreak: if it's enabled by default, I suppose it won't change anything if you explicitly state --enable-shared... [00:20] Jazzva: static is default shared is what mozilla tells us to do [00:20] yes confusing if you ask me === asac__ is now known as asac === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [00:25] shared is default, unless you ask for static, which we don't, so all is shared for us [00:28] didnt the bug say to build with shared and you replied that you only build with static? [00:29] the opposite [00:29] ah [00:29] but why would mozilla tell you to build non-default if they build with default [00:29] i never did get that when i read bug [00:31] but this bug is a big misunderstanding, i wanted make install to do something, he understood i wanted to build the mozilla installer, which i can't care less about [00:31] part of the confusion could be that i've used package-static as file name [00:31] but it's not related to the addons issue anyway [00:32] i haven't investigated that, i thought asac would, apparently he doesn't care about tb3 [00:33] and i'm no longer using tb* so it doesn't help [00:33] i've spent a lot of time on songbird [00:35] but reading latest comment from asac in the songbird packaging bug, it seems to me he doesn't want this package either [00:35] so like for sm2, i'm all by myself [00:36] feel free to help, all those branches are in ~mt [00:43] i can do that :) if you need something dont forget to ask if i dont already know about it [00:43] asac_: ummm can you stay connected long enough to let me know what we are doing with ff and dapper? [00:43] i ran into a dapper bug :( [00:44] fta: support+dapper+firefox? [01:01] gnomefreak: ? [01:01] bug149611 [01:01] bug 149611 [01:01] Launchpad bug 149611 in firefox "[dapper] firefox crashes with segmentation fault - new behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149611 [01:01] its dapper+firefox 1.5 [01:02] do we say we nologer support firefox for dapper? [01:02] 1.5 or 2.0 [01:02] no ... we support it [01:02] we suport 1.5? [01:03] yes [01:03] that would mean we just patch it no security updatess === asac_ is now known as asac [01:13] gnomefreak: we provide security updates ;) [01:13] thats how we support it [01:13] if there are critical regressions due to those security backports we fix them too [01:13] everything else is pretty much wontfix [01:13] ok good night atleast for a couple of hours. sorry for your email boxes [01:13] asac: ok [01:14] * gnomefreak needs to set up mutt or procmail or something tested based someday :) [01:14] ok night ladies and gents [01:23] i really dont understand what bug 206884 is about [01:23] Launchpad bug 206884 in firefox "Firefox uses the wrong display encoding" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206884 === asac_ is now known as asac [03:26] asac: from what it looks like he thinks default encoding for firefox should beISO8859-1 but its using UTF8 [03:28] asac: that is the exact reason in ff3 go to view > Chariter encoding ISO8859-1 is not in there and its set to UTF-8 by default [03:41] really ? http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/encoding.png [03:42] even i dont have all that in menu [03:43] i only have a couple of them [03:43] is there a keycommbo for screenshot? [03:44] printscreen [03:44] or altgr printscreen (here) for just the window [03:44] but you wont capture the menu [03:44] you need a delay [03:44] cu, it's late here [03:45] i see them now :( [03:45] fta: night === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac [14:22] DarkMageZ, are you the same dmz who requested my songbird source package ? [15:14] fta, yes ッ [15:44] fta, please see lp bug #123934 & #159691 as my reference demonstrating some knowledge of the packaging system. if that's what was holding you back from just replying to the email :P [15:44] Launchpad bug 123934 in libvisual-plugins "[debdiff] bunch of fixes for libvisual-plugins" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123934 [17:02] hm, he's gone [17:05] jcastro, ping [17:08] fta_: yo [17:09] jcastro, hi, could please re-assign https://edge.launchpad.net/songbird to mozillateam so i can edit that page ? [17:09] sure [17:09] as it's mozilla related, i think it makes sense [17:10] thanks :) === fta_ is now known as fta [17:38] i've published my branch for songbird in case someone is interested: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/songbird/songbird.head [19:19] 123 and counting :) [19:23] ? [19:31] old firefox-2 bugs [19:31] [reed]: we have a date for EOSL for ff 2? [19:32] <[reed]> 6 months after Fx3 [19:32] 6 weeks you mean? [19:33] security updates stop around x.0.0.15-16 i thought [19:34] <[reed]> ? [19:34] <[reed]> Firefox 2 will EOL 6 months after Firefox 3 is released. [19:35] i saw 6 weeks in some post on google but if its 6 months wtf am i doing this for [19:36] <[reed]> lol [19:36] asac: we still have ~7months at best for support of 2.0 [19:37] http://markmail.org/message/rogxjohsrb6sw2yq [19:37] i didnt say i believed it but when you said 6 it hit me maybe hes right [19:37] well i closed over 160 bugs for no reason this is not gonna be good [19:38] make that right around 300 [19:38] 200 [19:38] i have 120 and started at ~330 [19:40] * gnomefreak thinks on how to re word my statment for bugs [19:44] i think i was ablet o reword it :) [20:23] asac: please set ISO889-1 default for all pages no matter what the encoding is, this guy is really working on my nerves, one site ff sets to UTF-8 and he has to write multiple bugs on the issue because noone has a clue what he is ranting about [20:29] * gnomefreak gone for a while [21:54] Hello all, are there or would there be FF3 nightly .deb(s)? [21:55] alex_mayorga: not really nightly at this point [21:55] alex_mayorga: weekly is about rigth for this time of builod [21:55] build [21:55] gnomefreak what's the repository for that weekly build? [21:56] * gnomefreak goes to look [21:56] i dont remember his PPA off hand and this might change [21:56] oh shit [21:57] thats what he meant [21:57] alex_mayorga: you might have to wait a few hours [21:58] alex_mayorga: here they are be very careful as other apps may want to update as well and some are not close to stable [21:58] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main [21:58] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main [21:58] alex_mayorga: im not sure if they will work for next 2 hours or so since LP is going down [21:59] I already use that one, so I was pretty much on track, thanks [21:59] yes it updates my miro too, which is not bad I think [21:59] alex_mayorga: yes thats latest and greatest at this moment. was tere something you were looking for? [22:00] gnomefreak, thanks [22:00] s/there/tere [22:00] just the good old, "the newer, the better" :) [22:00] has ubuntu took much heat for shipping with FF3b5? [22:00] alex_mayorga: the one you are running is next release for Mozilla [22:01] alex_mayorga: yes but we did the best of 2 evils [22:01] * gnomefreak has that under control :) [22:08] hm, lp down, can't edit the wiki either [22:15] yes [22:16] will be down 2 hours [22:16] started 15 minutes ago [22:16] fta: they have been talking about it all week in email [22:16] wiki isnt on LP you should be fine editing it [22:16] oh shit [22:17] wtf is wiki down for [22:17] nope, read only [22:17] i guess user database is from lp [22:17] i see [22:18] fta: am i here? [22:19] yes :) [22:19] for some reason when pasting the warning it uses /The [22:19] LaserJock > gnomefreak: yeah, wiki is authenticated via Launchpad [22:20] but PPA's work [22:23] and bzr ? [22:23] nope [22:23] Using saved location: bzr+ssh://fta@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.head/ [22:23] ssh: connect to host bazaar.launchpad.net port 22: Connection refused [22:24] Is there a nice way to "kill" firefox when it becomes non responsive? [22:25] [reed], there's no CVS tag for RC1 ? [22:26] alex_mayorga, nope, the cross on top right of the window, then say kill, it should work most of the time [22:27] fta even that wont work, so I guess is kill -3 right? [22:28] try -15 is nicer, then last resort -9 [22:28] never mind, looks like a 1 pixel dialog was created right in the center of the FF window, once I resized it and closed it FF went away, strange [22:28] I'll see if I can reproduce it [22:28] oh, you just upgraded ? [22:29] moments ago from your PPA, is it broken? [22:29] sounds like a ff3/xul upgrade without restart [22:29] no [22:29] fta shall I log off and back in? [22:29] it's a know ungraceful upgrade of all mozilla products [22:29] no, just quit ff and restart it [22:30] wow, I've got a new license, so release is close by? [22:30] eheh, the bzr attempt a few minutes ago was to prevent that license to popup [22:31] yes, a RC is close [22:32] "Assuming no new issues are found today the build team will start official prep work for Release Candidate 1 (RC1) tomorrow. QA will start their extensive RC1 test pass on Monday. If all goes well we should have the Release Candidate publicly available in late May. " [22:33] if there's a CVS tag for this RC1, i can release a preview to my ppa [22:37] hm, the last i see is THUNDERBIRD_3_0a1_BUILD1 / THUNDERBIRD_3_0a1_RELEASE [22:38] no idea what UPDATE_PACKAGING_R4 and GECKO19_20080506_RELBRANCH are.. [22:38] [reed], ^^ ? [22:39] "RC1 is intended for wider scale public testing. Our 1.2M+ active beta users will automatically get updated to RC1 when it is released. If no new showstopper issues are found in RC1 it will become Firefox 3 final. If we find any critical issues we will continue to release new Release Candidates until we are ready for final ship" [22:46] yeah!! FF3 is coming [22:47] honestly I've yet have to see a show stopper myself [23:27] alex_mayorga: there were a few blockers not sure how many are left but i think i still have link [23:27] ah only 3 [23:28] that was atleast 15 a few weeks ago [23:29] fta: yeah meant to tell you it was still there this week [23:30] fta: LP is back online i think [23:30] yay [23:30] what was still there? [23:31] the license [23:31] yes, i've just committed the fix [23:34] and... pushed to my ppa. give it 15 min to be there [23:45] k [23:46] new libc6 [23:46] fta: can we make tabs opened in firefox not take focus [23:46] main widow focus is good but tabs yuck [23:48] never new how much pidgin looks like gajim [23:49] other than branding they look exactly alike [23:50] did you try to toggle browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground ? [23:51] no i can but still default shount interupt your work like that [23:55] i won't change that in ff3, it's more for ubufox [23:55] but it's usability, so people will never agree [23:56] i prefer the tab to raise, but i don't want the window to raise or change desktop or the focus to be stolen [23:56] it's all fine here. but i had to drop ubufox because of that [23:59] did you read ?