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sponixjamiejackson: try this... backup users homedir, then remake the account blank, and just move the "data" back in, chances are the prefs have changed00:00
jamiejacksonk will do00:01
sponixStill think xfce is just the best over all00:04
sponixNot just for low end systems, not just for this or for that... Over all xfce is just best period00:04
sponixDoes what you need, and does it well00:04
ere4sisponix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant_Window_Navigator00:05
jamiejacksonactually, lots (maybe all pri00:08
jamiejackson...all profiles might be messed up. might try an sys update00:09
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pulseezarhow can i play mp3 files in xubuntu00:22
pulseezar?00:22
litlebudapulseezar, with audacious for example00:24
ere4si!mp3 | pulseezar00:26
ubottupulseezar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:26
pulseezarcant find audacious inadd/remove00:27
ere4sipulseezar: you may need to enable the repositories00:31
ere4si!repos | pulseezar00:31
ubottupulseezar: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories00:31
sponixknow what pisses me off about xfce ?01:00
Odd-rationalesponix: it's speed?01:02
sponix.. Yeah, its speed, its stability, its ease of use, small footprint, the over all simplicity... Freaking hate that !01:03
sponixBeyond that, what really ticks me off is how people treat it as 2nd best... "If you have a low end system, you might try xfce"01:04
sponixWhy not, if you want something that just works, and doesn't suck ass... xfce is where its at !01:05
Odd-rationalesponix: yeah, the ubuntu guys kind of adverttise xubuntu for low-end machines. but it works even better on high end ones too01:17
standarshyhi room01:40
Odd-rationalehello, standarshy01:40
standarshyIs this room open to n00b questions?01:40
Odd-rationaleNO01:41
Odd-rationalejk01:41
standarshyalright01:41
standarshySo, i was wondering if xubuntu as compatible with programs as ubuntu.01:41
Odd-rationaleyes.01:42
Odd-rationaleyou can run gnome apps and kde apps in xubuntu01:42
Odd-rationaleeven windows apps for that matter (using special technology called WINE)01:42
standarshyI am currently an opensuse user but am considering trying out a version of ubuntu, not sure which though01:42
Odd-rationalestandarshy: what are your specs?01:42
standarshywell, the comp I run opensuse on has a sempronrunning at 1.8 ghz, and 250mb of sd ram01:43
Odd-rationaleUbuntu would run just fine on that.01:43
standarshyoh, and an archiac tnt2 with 64 mb ram01:43
Odd-rationalepuppy linux would run just fine on that01:44
standarshyI read that xubuntu is faster, is there any reason why I'd want ubuntu over xubuntu?01:44
Odd-rationalestandarshy: what DE are you using in Suse?01:44
Odd-rationalestandarshy: if you are a gnome lover, you could use ubuntu01:45
Odd-rationalexubuntu is faster, no doubt...01:45
standarshyI'm not sure what you mean by DE but I'm assuming you're asking version01:45
standarshywhich is currently 10.2, which I'm giong to upgrade to 10.301:45
Odd-rationaleDE == Desktop Environment01:45
Odd-rationaleGnome or KDE01:46
standarshyI'm using kde, I've actually only ever tried distro's with kde01:46
Odd-rationalestandarshy: then you might like kubuntu.01:46
standarshyI was thinking about that one too actually01:47
Odd-rationaleor download a live cd of them all and try them!01:47
Odd-rationalethankfully it is only a 700mb cd not a 4 gb dvd in suse ;)01:47
standarshywould a livecd really give me a good idea about what the OS is like? or is it totally dumbed down?01:48
Odd-rationalestandarshy: really, only you can decide...01:48
standarshyWell, god could decide.01:48
Odd-rationalestandarshy: oh, it gives you a perfect image of what the actually install looks like01:49
standarshyso, I guess you`re not god01:49
standarshylol01:49
Odd-rationalestandarshy: only, you are limited to the speed of your cd drive, which is much slower than you hdd.01:49
Odd-rationalekubuntu is my personal favorite version of ubuntu...01:50
standarshysry01:51
standarshysuse or kde has been acting up lately01:51
Odd-rationalestandarshy: as i was saying, you are only limited to the speed of your cd drive, which is much slower than you hdd.01:51
Odd-rationalekubuntu is my personal favorite version of ubuntu...01:52
standarshyyea01:52
standarshyhmm01:53
standarshyI think I'll take your advice on trying out the livecd's01:54
Odd-rationalecool!01:54
standarshyare you familiar with yast though?01:54
Odd-rationalestandarshy: no, never tried Suse...01:54
standarshybummer01:54
Odd-rationalestandarshy: I would advice getting the kde3 version of kubuntu. not the kubuntu-kde4 version.01:55
Odd-rationalestandarshy: there is a opensuse chan...01:55
standarshyi didn't get an answer inthe suse chan01:55
standarshyI'll try the other01:55
standarshyoh wait, there isn't another01:56
standarshyOdd-rationale: where can i find the kubuntu livecd?02:04
Odd-rationalestandarshy: try looking in the kubuntu home page: www.kubuntu.org02:06
standarshyDo you happen to knwo the difference between the hardy and remix versions?02:07
Odd-rationalestandarshy: the remix version has kde4 instead of kde3. I'd go with the standard kde3 version.02:08
standarshyis the installatio cd also a livecd?02:08
Odd-rationalestandarshy: yup!02:08
standarshyok, sweet02:10
standarshyi guess it the same with the others02:10
standarshyI'll go download them now02:10
Odd-rationaleyes. all ubuntu livecd are also install cd's02:10
Odd-rationalegtg02:10
standarshythank you very much for your help02:10
Odd-rationalenp02:10
Roy_Mustanggood evening!!02:38
Roy_Mustangquestion: i'm looking for a light mp3 player for xubuntu, any suggestions?02:39
Odd-rationalehi cody-somerville!02:53
cody-somervilleHiya :)02:54
andronicuswhen i tried installing compiz, the title bars all disappeared, what do I do???03:30
Odd-rationaleandronicus: did you install emerald?03:31
andronicusi believe so, but that would explain it if i didn't03:31
Odd-rationaletry installing emerald, and in the window decoration plugin in the advance settings manager, put in emerald03:32
andronicusis the command line install any different in hardy from gutsy?03:32
Odd-rationaleandronicus: you mean the alternative cd?03:32
Odd-rationaleandronicus: not by much...03:32
andronicusno03:33
andronicusi installed by sudo apt-get install compiz-core compiz-plugins compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra emerald compizconfig-settings-manager03:33
Odd-rationaleandronicus: oh that is completely the same03:33
andronicusi will try that, odd-rationale, and be back03:34
Odd-rationaleok03:34
andronicuscan i get xubuntu to remember window positions on my second monitor?04:12
Odd-rationalehmm. i dunno about that...04:12
Odd-rationaledon't remember...04:12
andronicusso far this has been my biggest gripe about ubuntu in all it's flavors and maybe linux in general, dual monitor support is subpar and window managers fail at MANAGING WINDOWS ARG04:13
SnakeyeSI forgot my username and password...what are my options?04:32
SnakeyeSDoes xubuntu have any password reminder functionality?  I'm locked out.04:34
Odd-rationaleSnakeyeS: you only option is to boot into recovery mode04:38
Odd-rationaleand do "passwd <yourusername>04:38
Odd-rationaleand change your password.04:38
SnakeyeSYep...just now found this...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37539105:04
SnakeyeSwhich is good because I think I've forgotten both05:05
SnakeyeSlol05:05
nikolamHi. is there any way to use consoles (like pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1, F2..) On Xubuntu?05:35
IskrTheSheep, you know it didn't work07:05
Iskreven if i unchecked the update notifier07:05
Iskrfrom autostarted applications07:06
Iskrstill the orange applet with the star is in the system tray07:06
Chrysalisanyone here using xfmedia?07:20
Chrysaliswell, it handles large playlists like nothing else ive seen in linux, but when you load a forder/directory it also loads none audio files (album art etc) and crashes when it tries to play none music lol07:26
Chrysalisnot sure how something like this could get overlooked07:28
PeterCartwrightAnybody awake?08:11
itai-michaelson.08:49
C|-|R15anyone using LXDE able to help???09:27
TheSheeplxde?09:32
C|-|R15lightweight X desktop environment09:34
C|-|R15i installed it to use instead of xfce...but having problem with Logout09:35
TheSheepxubuntu uses xfce09:35
TheSheephave you tried #lxde?09:35
C|-|R15no one seems to be there....i know few people using xubuntu tried lxde to make it a little lighter09:37
C|-|R15and lxde is 'on-top' of xubuntu09:37
C|-|R15do you know how to logout / shutdown from terminal in xubuntu?09:42
C|-|R15anyone know how to logout and/or shut down using terminal?09:47
daftpun1sudo shutdown -h now09:50
Chrysaliseasy, pull the power plug09:53
zoredacheC|-|R15: one way to quickly kill a session is by pressing ctrl-alt-backspace10:08
whileimhereWhen I log into Xubuntu each time it asks me for a password to start NM manager. Is there a way to get it to remember this password and stop asking?11:17
gabkdllywhileimhere: did you try setting the password under Applications -> System -> Network ?11:46
whileimhereWhat is a good ogg ripper for the XFCE desktop?13:04
kripzis there suppose to be audio on error messages etc, on xubuntu?14:05
TheSheepno14:05
kripzok thx14:05
MiKa^es14:50
flotishtu iam using ktorrent. my upload on knemo graph is more than my downloads. why so? iam not uploading any thing. not even in ktorrent.?15:36
douglasHey15:47
flotishtuTheSheep my case is solved. got to confiugure ipmasq15:47
douglasI have  a built in intel graphic media accelerator15:47
douglasHow do I install the drivers for it15:47
douglasah got it15:50
pimp^airhi16:03
pimp^airis there a way to change background-color for Terminal windows depending on which machine i'm currently logged in via ssh=16:04
pimp^airlike "alias ssh='changecolor; ssh'?16:04
wyzhi16:05
douglashm16:09
douglasIs it possible to change the bg color of xfce16:09
douglaser the menus on xfce16:09
TheSheepdouglas: yes, with a gtk theme16:26
douglashm16:27
douglas:s16:27
douglastoo bad its not right click like gnome :s16:27
* TheSheep doesn't mind16:32
TheSheepat least you cannot make it bright orange16:32
douglasi'm hacking xfce to look like mac osxc :p16:35
douglasosx*16:35
TheSheepdouglas: there are several ready themes on xfcelook.org16:40
douglas:o16:51
douglasno good ones though16:55
douglasto make it look like mac osx16:55
douglasi gotta get a dock made16:55
AkisoraHopefully someone can help me with a question I have. Running Xubuntu 8.04 as Live CD...what username/pass do I use?17:03
douglasNo idea, why use a livecd17:04
douglasarg17:04
douglaswb.17:04
douglas:s17:04
Natureshadowhello there17:16
NatureshadowI am running Xubuntu 8.04 with Firefox 3.0a (the current version from hardy/main)17:16
NatureshadowNow when BOINC consumed too much CPU time, I couldnt get Firefox and X.org in general to react, and restarted gdm and removed the firefox lockfiles17:17
NatureshadowNow I am experiencing that the statusbar does not show anything and the back- and forward navigation and the refresh button do not work anymore17:17
NatureshadowAny ideas?17:17
NatureshadowOh yes, and I just notice that the Google search box lacks functionality17:26
daftpun1hi does anyone know wich package deals with keybord settings?17:29
daftpun1i believe i had to delete default configuration file and for some reason when i log in it ignores the settings for keyboard17:30
daftpun1I have to change it manually every time17:31
Natureshadowdaftpun1: hold on a moment17:34
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Which config file do you edit?17:34
daftpun1i had to delete file named default17:35
daftpun1but I don't remember in which folder17:36
NatureshadowI think it might be a file in /etc/default ?17:36
NatureshadowRather than a file named default17:36
daftpun1i think that was the one17:36
daftpun1i'll have a look if its there17:37
Natureshadowdaftpun1: And then it would be /etc/default/locale , I guess17:37
daftpun1etc/default is missing17:37
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Or /etc/default/console-setup, depends on what you want to change about the keyboard17:38
Natureshadowdaftpun1: You don't have a fodler called /etc/default ??????17:38
daftpun1ah no sorry i got it17:38
daftpun1but i deleted file named default17:38
daftpun1it was some config for something17:39
Natureshadowdaftpun1: I dont know of a file named default that has to do with keyboard settings17:39
daftpun1because i could not login I messed with autologin17:39
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Is this about the console or X?17:39
daftpun1not sure now17:39
daftpun1I think X17:39
daftpun1sorry I am useless with linux this is my 3rd day with linux in my life17:40
daftpun1:D17:40
Natureshadowdaftpun1: So why did you have to delete this file, whatever file it was?17:40
daftpun1And I tried to get rid of the default keyring password17:40
daftpun1and when I was loging in I just got a message authentication failed17:40
NatureshadowUmm ... keyring ... keyboard ... whats the matter now?17:41
daftpun1when I clicked ok another one like that appeared17:41
daftpun1so I found in some forum that to fix it ishould delete it17:41
daftpun1lol thats how it started17:41
daftpun1I managed to fix it17:41
daftpun1its just the keyboard is set as US when the system starts17:42
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Two questions ...17:42
Natureshadow1. Are you having a problem with your keyboard or with a keyring?17:42
Natureshadow2. Did you fix it or didn't you?17:42
daftpun11. keyboard is set as US when i boot up17:43
daftpun11. setting is set as UK keyboard17:43
Natureshadowdaftpun1: 1. This is in /etc/default/locale for the console and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for X17:43
daftpun1LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"17:43
daftpun1this is in that locale so it should be fine17:44
Natureshadowdaftpun1: This is not the keyboard setting for X1117:44
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor, lokk for a section called "InputDevice" with identifier "Generic keyboard" and change the option "XkbLayout" to en17:45
daftpun1found it17:46
daftpun1thank you17:46
daftpun1it was set to us17:46
daftpun1but now i can't save it17:46
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Are you root? Or did you use sudo?17:46
Natureshadowdaftpun1: I am rebooting, hold on a minute ...17:47
daftpun1i just double clicked so no i have to do it through terminal17:47
daftpun1ok17:47
daftpun1problem is that I treat is as windows17:48
Natureshadowre17:51
daftpun1i ticked a box in setting use X configuration17:51
daftpun1so it should be now ok I changed that layout to en17:52
daftpun1and saved it17:52
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Then test it17:52
daftpun1ok I'll reboot then, just a sec.17:53
NatureshadowOK, after a reboot, my firefox runs like normal17:55
daftpun1re17:55
NatureshadowSeems to turn to Windows now ...17:55
daftpun1it's working fine17:56
Natureshadowwb daftpun117:56
Natureshadowdaftpun1: There certainly is another solution using the normal configuration tools, but I find things a lot easier on the console :)17:56
daftpun1the other questrion was how can I get rid of default keyring password safely?17:56
daftpun1ya they are just need to get used to it17:57
daftpun1I followed some procedures that I found on some forum and messed the whole system up17:57
daftpun1that I could not even log in17:57
daftpun1Natureshadow is there any way of getting rid of it17:58
daftpun1?17:58
daftpun1network monitor applet is asking for it to login to wifi every time i log in17:59
Natureshadowdaftpun1: I dont know about that, sorry17:59
daftpun1OK thanks very much17:59
Natureshadowdaftpun1: np17:59
daftpun1I'll try to look on forums again :D17:59
daftpun1i'm sure it bugs more people18:00
daftpun1and are there any settings for keyring somewhere?18:00
daftpun1Natureshadow Do you know how to mount some ntfs drives on startup?18:01
daftpun1I got 2 other partitions with windows that I would like to mount every time I login18:02
daftpun1I know how to mount them manually18:02
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daftpun1re18:28
Natureshadowdaftpun1: Look at one of the entries in /etc/fstab, then copy and modify it according to your needs18:30
NatureshadowIf you know how to mount your ntfs volume manually, then this should be quite easy18:30
* Natureshadow is leaving for dinner18:41
Natureshadowbye!18:41
bikerbazhi there, wondering if anyone could help, have recently switched to the xfce4 gui, all was good untill i enabled compisite, after that my desktop icons disapeared and the right click menu doesnt work anymore, only thing i can seem to get to work is alt f4 to allow me to log of or shutdown. Is there a config file somewhere that i can disable the compisite?18:59
nikolamhi19:30
nikolamhow do i enable sound after coming back from hibernate?19:30
nikolamI am using Xubuntu 8.04 64-bit and after coming back from hibernation, sound does not work.19:31
whileimhereI would like to add thunar and a terminal to my taskbar as icons.19:33
whileimhereWhat is the cli for thunar?19:33
whileimhereand the same for the terminal19:33
nikolamwhileimhere, xfce4-terminal19:34
whileimhereOkay got that working19:37
nikolamThunar is Thunar19:38
whileimhereGot it.19:38
whileimhere:)19:38
whileimhereNow how do you add them to the desktop?19:39
nikolamright click>create launcher19:43
whileimhereAhh no drag and drop then19:44
nikolamyou can also use quicklauncher Item on Xfce panel to make application-buttons always at hand19:44
nikolamI found solution to missing sound after hibernate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768441&highlight=sound+hibernate19:45
nikolamsudo /sbin/alsa force-reload19:45
whileimhereHmmm. Is there a way to manipulate images via the Thunar file manager? Things like Rotate and stuff?19:46
nikolamyou can use gqview to see images19:49
nikolamyou also have gimp for editing pictures19:51
wubrgamerhey guys20:03
wubrgamercan i upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the regular Ubuntu cd instead of the xubuntu cd ?20:03
whileimhereHow do I do a search and find in Thunar?20:03
Odd-rationalewubrgamer: upgrade Xubuntu? no you need the xubuntu 8.04 alternative cd or good internet connection20:06
nikolamwubrgamer, I suppose so. But why to change xubuntu? ;)20:06
wubrgamerwould the xubutu desktop cd work if it is placed into the computer? or just the alt. cd?20:07
Odd-rationalewubrgamer: to upgrade, you need the alt cd. to install, either will do.20:11
wubrgamerwubrgamer:  thanks20:13
wubrgamerOdd-rationale:  is it better to do a fresh install?20:13
Odd-rationaleI like fresh installs...20:13
wubrgamerOdd-rationale:  *high-five*20:13
PeterCartwrightIs anyone here?20:15
Odd-rationaleno20:15
PeterCartwrightalright, cool20:15
S0210What should I do if I want to contribute to the Hungarian translation of xfce4-session?20:59
ChrysalisS0210: try #ubuntu-doc, they might know21:15
totalwormageS0210: you can add your translations to launchpad21:15
Chrysalishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation21:16
S0210totalwormge: xfce2-session is not registered on launchpad. If you do it, I'll add my suggestion to it.21:18
S0210Chrysalis: thanks, I give a try21:18
totalwormageS0210: oh, sorry :]21:19
Chrysalismight not be relevant at all, was just browsing around myself since i think they could really need some help with in my language21:19
Kirhey guys21:26
Kirtell me please how to change keyboard layout?21:26
Kirand hotkeys for this action21:26
Kircan't find it...21:26
Chrysalissettings manager/keyboard?21:31
magic_ninjai got a serious problem, my proc fried and i replaced the proc and the power supply, still get the same problem, my hsf spins up for a second or two then won't work22:17
wubrgamerhey guys22:19
wubrgamerhow do I add more than the default 2 workspaces in xkce? i like having 4 in gnome22:19
wubrgamerand would like 4 in xfce as well22:19
chronitismenu->settings->workspace settings22:25
chronitisnumber of workspaces is then an option on the first page22:25
chronitis(presumably by xkce you meant xfce rather than xkcd...)22:27
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Chrysalisi like 3 myself, 2 is not enough and 4 is too much to manage22:29
chronitisthere's probably a monty python joke there22:30
biouserxubuntu is still going strong, eh?22:37
biouserhow is hardy?22:37
biouserI wish I didn't use all of my CDs messing around with the gnome counterpart22:38
holyguyver_Hey guys, it is me the 1998 Gateway guy. I just bought a HP Pavilion Slimline s3120n PC, how well will Linux play with that?23:02
magic_ninjaholyguyver_, it probably will play fine23:38
holyguyver_Thank you :)23:38
=== WildChild7 is now known as frojnd
frojndI've just installed ekiga. I can't find any ekiga test call. Can someone who uses ekiga pvt me and tell me his or her ekigas acc name so I can test the quality ? pelase pvt me.23:59

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