[01:49] <vorian> evening :)
[01:52] <ScottK> Good evening.
[15:27]  * ryanakca loves having to work just so that you can work :)
[15:29] <uga> Anyone else is seeing stuff like this?
[15:29] <uga> May 11 16:25:17 dpcuga kernel: [  495.016077] scsi 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense not available.
[15:29] <uga> May 11 16:25:17 dpcuga kernel: [  495.016081] scsi 4:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[15:30] <uga> sounds like a new issue with hal
[15:30] <uga> what I wonder is what that "sense not available" means
[15:39] <uga> uhm... usbfs seems really broken
[15:39] <uga> hallo? nobody is having issues?
[15:51] <ryanakca> !patience | uga
[15:52] <uga> ryanakca: I know, been in the other side myself. It's just I thought the channel was dead ;)
[15:52] <ryanakca> uga: hmm... not really what I wanted to tell you, but I'm sure if someone is experiencing it, they'll pipe up within the next day or so... Its a Sunday and most people are enjoying their weekend. Tomorrow night might be a better time to ask... If you think its a bug, then see !bug
[15:52] <uga> ryanakca: it's been reported ages ago, (2k7 mids) for earlier *buntu versions but no real solutions nor known bugs
[15:54] <ryanakca> If the bug hasn't been confirmed, you could always do so and try to add as much information to it... *isn't really experienced in regards to the kernel/hal, so I can't really help you, sorry.*
[15:56] <uga> yes, thanks. Don't worry. I need to figure out what's going on first. This is strange
[15:56] <uga> I just enabled boot logs. I think I saw something during the boot last time
[17:00] <yuriy> ok kwin needs to stop leaking memory... it woke me up this morning
[17:12] <ryanakca> stdin: ping, mind if I merge kio-apt?
[17:24] <Arby> Riddell: still failing to merge kdevelop, debdiff was rejected (too big)
[17:24] <Arby> Riddell; stuck with build-deps
[17:25] <Arby> Riddell: the diff is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11446/
[17:25] <Arby> Riddell: specifically the version differences
[17:25] <Arby> Riddell: normally I would have chosen debian but there was some disagreement in #ubuntu-motu over the right decision
[17:26] <Arby> Riddell: basically it's your call :)
[17:26] <Arby> then I might try to sort kdelibs build failure
[17:27] <ScottK> Arby: Is there a debian changelog entry mentioning why it was changed from 3.5.8 to 3.5.9?
[17:28] <Arby> ScottK: not that I can find, let me double check
[17:31] <Arby> ScottK: libdb4.6-dev, python2.5 were upgraded previously by r1ddell, the others aren't mentioned that I can find
[17:31] <Riddell> hi Arby
[17:31] <Riddell> we want python2.5
[17:31] <Arby> ah the man himself
[17:32] <Riddell> looks like libdb-dev just brings in libdb4.6-dev, so fine to use libdb-dev
[17:32] <Riddell> Arby: kdelibs has compiled
[17:33] <Arby> Riddell: oh, what changed?
[17:33] <ScottK> I'm kind of suprised Debian hasn't changed to Python 2.5 yet.
[17:33] <Riddell> took me a couple of tries those, fiddly stuff is that .pot
[17:33] <Riddell> Arby: I had to add a couple of missing files, I expect it was my fault rather than yours
[17:33] <Arby> Riddell: it's kdelibs4-dev libcvsservice-dev  that were causing the kdevelop confusion
[17:34] <Arby> Riddell: well that's cheered me up, it's been a trying afternoon :)
[17:34] <Riddell> kdelibs4-dev doesn't matter, go with debian's
[17:34] <Riddell> likewise libcvsservice-dev
[17:35] <Arby> Riddell: ok
[17:36] <Arby> Riddell: while your here, ktorrent also failed to build on several architectures
[17:36] <Arby> any thoughts?
[17:37] <Arby> lots of debian/rules:3: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/foo: No such file or directory errors
[17:37] <Riddell> missing build dep on cdbs
[17:37] <Arby> right, thanks
[17:38] <Arby> Riddell: what's the procedure for failed to build, do I make a new debdiff and attach it to the merge bug?
[17:40] <Riddell> yep
[17:40] <Arby> thanks
[17:40] <ryanakca> Riddell: Mind if I merge kio-apt?
[17:42] <Riddell> ryanakca: please do
[17:43] <ryanakca> Riddell: okies, and have you heard back from Ng? Last I heard, he was stuck in a datacenter, and he hasn't replied to me since
[17:45] <uga> ryanakca: heh, sorry, I had to away myself for a while, but.. I can't even get logs properly. I enabled boot logs and bootogd is enabled, but it doesnt' save anything to /var/log/boot
[17:45] <uga> is that meant to be normal?
[17:45] <ScottK> Arby: I'd also suggest going back and looking at how that build-dep got missed.  Did you test build the package before sending the debdiff?
[17:45] <Arby> ScottK: yes
[17:45] <ryanakca> uga: don't know, sorry
[17:45]  * ryanakca -> lunch
[17:45] <Arby> I always do
[17:46] <ScottK> Arby: How did you build it?
[17:46] <Arby> if I remember right debuild -S and then pdebuild
[17:46] <Arby> could be a non-clean pbuilder
[17:46] <ScottK> Does pdebuild start from a clean chroot each time (I don't use it).
[17:46] <Arby> I'll sort it shortly
[17:46] <ScottK> OK.
[17:46] <ScottK> That's a pretty basic one to miss.
[17:47] <Arby> I don't know how it happened, I wouldn't have uploaded if it didn't build
[17:48] <Arby> anyway, I'll fix it now
[17:48] <Riddell> ryanakca: nothing
[17:51] <ScottK> Arby: Who uploaded it for you?
[17:52] <Arby> ScottK: Riddell I think, I've lost the bug report somehow
[17:52] <ScottK> OK
[17:52] <Arby> found it, yes it was
[18:14] <uga> Riddell: I found a bug, found how to workaround it, but dunno why
[18:16] <uga> it seems the service odccm, if installed, fails to boot properly. It says "libhal_ctx_init failed with D-Bus error"
[18:16] <uga> if the bootup goes on, not a single usbfs systems work
[18:16] <uga> now, if after the process one starts up the service, it works fine, and now I can see the usbfs devices again
[18:17] <uga> so it seems the odccm service is defaulted to start too early in the bootup process
[19:09] <ryanakca> Riddell: Since kio-apt didn't want to download from MoM/DaD, I merged kiosktool. However, Someone started merging it a week or so ago and hasn't updated the bug report with the merge/etc... so should I attach mine or just wait for him/her to attach theirs?
[19:54] <fdoving> ryanakca: i'd say attach yours, can't waste time waiting. that's my vote anyway :)
[19:54] <ryanakca> fdoving: ok, thanks
[20:29] <stdin> smarter: ping
[20:31] <smarter> pong stdin
[20:32] <stdin> smarter: any idea if we still need that Xrender patch for bespin?
[20:33] <stdin> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1880523&group_id=201276&atid=976907
[20:34] <smarter> I think so, I packaged a new upstream snapshot here if you want to have a look: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~smarter/bespin/ubuntu
[20:35] <smarter> The build-deps probably have to be adapted for Qt 4.4, I'll do it next week(I'm missing time and a good computer atm) and upload it to revu
[20:36] <smarter> my main computer just died and I'm stuck on an asus EEE
[20:37] <smarter> stdin: you wanted to do some changes in the packaging?
[20:38] <stdin> I was just wondering about it really, the email from sourceforge reminded me about it
[20:40] <Chusslove> _Sime_: ping
[20:42] <smarter> stdin: ok, I'll check ;)
[21:09] <yuriy> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3460 hmm the suggested packages thing would be an interesting addition to add/remove programs
[21:14] <yuriy> mornfall: hi. have you had a chance to look at the last patches i sent?
[21:35] <ryanakca> Someone with upload access to main, see merged kiosktool bug #227485
[23:20] <yuriy> anybody else have kwin leaking memory since the upgrade to 4.0.4?