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NickPresta!wireless00:01
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:01
NickPrestaHave you read the docs for installing the drivers?00:01
heroicwisdomyes it an open souce driver, and i have one some googling and checked the forums but i haave not gone too far00:01
heroicwisdomi have compiled the driver with the make command, and now im stuck, the readme get really hazy at this point00:03
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Flashywill "kubuntu-kde4-desktop" work from Ubuntu HArdy to get me kubuntu 8.04?00:04
geniiFlashy: apt-get install kde400:05
Flashyand is that issue with ati card owners not shutting down properly been fixed?00:05
geniiwith sudo00:05
jussi01genii: no...00:05
Flashythanks00:05
jussi01Flashy: kubuntu-kde4-desktop is correct00:05
geniijussi01: He needs kubuntu-desktop first?00:05
geniijussi01: Ah, OK00:05
jussi01:)00:05
jussi01Flashy: for further kde4 support, please use #kubuntu-kde400:06
Flashythanks :D00:06
jussi01:)00:06
Flashysorry to be a pain... if I download the latest install CD can I use that as a source to install kde?00:08
Flashymy isp has a local mirror and the aussie ubuntu server has been slow of late00:08
PovAddictFlashy: you need the alternate CD00:10
PovAddictthe install CD (live) won't work as a package source00:10
Flashyok cool thanks :D00:11
siofwolvesFlashy, what issue are you having with the ati card and shutting down?00:12
uhriventisPlease read my post. I need help installing an ati driver00:12
uhriventishttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094354.000:12
epimeth!paste > epimeth00:12
Flashywell I had ubuntu 8.04 and installed KDE (perhaps before the release of kubuntu 8.04) and my PC would not shut down, the screen would go black and stall in some kind of loop forever00:13
siofwolvesFlashy, i had the same, found this thread. works great for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767216&highlight=logoff00:14
FlashyI read the forums and people suggested it was some process from the ati drivers not shutting down, others claimed the splash screens were the problem00:14
DragnslcrFlashy- you should be able to use the DVD to upgrade as well00:15
FlashyI'm getting the alternate from my ISP now00:15
psycohello, what kind of program would you recommend for ripping audio cd's??00:16
PovAddictpsyco: no need for any00:17
psycoPovAddict: oh?00:17
PovAddictpsyco: open a file manager00:18
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PovAddictand type audiocd:/ on  the location00:19
JackaultSlight problem. I've installed kubuntu on my laptop and forgot the password.00:19
keldon85Hi, I'm curious about ATI Radeon X550 compatibility under the latest linux kernels as both Kubuntu 8.04 and Mandriva 2008 fail early during installation00:19
JackaultHow can I reset it?00:19
PovAddictJackault: when you boot it should have an option on the bootloader saying (recovery mode)00:20
PovAddictthat will get you a root shell, you can change anyone's password there00:20
PovAddict(afaik)00:20
psycoPovAddict: err I want to rip it as an mp3...00:21
JackaultPovAddict: Alright, I'm in. It's given me root but I don't know the commands to actually change the users passwords. I think I ended up changing root's password00:21
PovAddictpasswd <username>00:21
PovAddictpsyco: I get a bunch of folders with ogg, mp3, etc00:22
richardI am trying to set up dual booting with 2 hard drives, I accessed menu.1st and added the line I was instrtucted to add, but I can't save my changes?00:22
PovAddictjust move the .mp3 files somewhere else, and the the mp3 files will be actually created while copying00:22
Jackaultthanks a lot PovAddict! that saved a lot of trouble00:23
psycoPovAddict: no mp3 folder on this disc. Also what if I want different bitrates?00:23
PovAddictpsyco: then you don't have mp3 encoding programs - not sure what to install to make it work with audiocd:/00:24
PovAddicthttp://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/05/032-konqueror/audiocd.png00:24
PovAddicthttp://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/audio-cd.html <- looks like you can set the bitrate00:25
psycoahh i see.00:25
psycoTy.00:25
keldon85I am considering using an older distro build as they work! I'm really confused as to what is causing this ...00:26
psycowtf I have a mde control centre?00:26
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psycoKDE*00:26
psycoHow do I get to the LKDE control centre :S00:28
richardtrying to set up dual boot (Xp & Kubuntu 2 seperate hard drives) i entered the lines in menu.1st, but can't save the changes? what did I not do?00:30
Jackaultyou need super user privileges to save changes. Try sudo nano "/boot/grub/menu.lst"00:31
JackaultOkay, I'm in but now my wireless net isn't working00:31
uhriventisWhere can I download older versions of Xserver?00:32
richardI used kdesudo kate, is nano different?00:32
gkffjcsis there a way I can force kde to handle mime types with the .extention insted of trying to guess at what's in the file, I have a bunch of annoying conflicts which I cannot solve, I really want to be able to say .whatever is with a particular app.00:32
Jackaultgkffjcs: right click on a file with that extension, select 'properties' and then click on the little spanner to edit what program handles it.00:33
gkffjcsthat doesn't work, for instance if I set .zip to open with ark then every file that contains zip formatting opens with ark no matter if it is actually a .zip file00:35
gkffjcsFor instance .docx is a zip format, I want it to be opened by OOo, if I set it to open with OOo then kde will try and open all .zip files in OOo, which is retarded.00:36
JackaultAh, I see. I have the same issue actually..00:37
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psyco:S why does audiocd:/ not have mp3 for me.....00:42
uhriventisDoes anyone know how to downgrade xorg from 7.3 to 7.100:43
IppatsuManpsyco: you need to install the lame package00:43
psycoahh lol ty00:43
IppatsuManyou're welcome00:43
PovAddictlame isn't really lame, it r0xx0rz :)00:43
psyco:P oh yes00:44
PovAddictthere's another called toolame, for mp1 and mp200:44
psycoepic woots got it00:46
psycothanks guys!00:46
LegoDanielCan anyone please help me with VirtualBox, please?00:48
LegoDanielI get an error when I try to start the virtual machine I created.00:49
neville_You might want to ask in #vbox00:49
LegoDanielI tried but no one will answer me.00:49
neville_hmm00:49
LegoDanielTrying to get help in chatrooms is almost as much as a waste of time as this Linux stuff.00:50
neville_Lazy bums00:50
neville_Oh, well if that's your attitude00:50
neville_These people aren't payed to do this00:50
LegoDanielPeople say how good it is suposed to be, but never say how annoying it is to use and configure.00:50
neville_Windows?00:50
neville_Have you ever seen that when you put it on freshly?00:51
LegoDanielKubuntu Linux, any Linux.00:51
andythow about error kde mediamanager not running, I just browsed a cd a minute ago now error00:51
neville_It's a huger pain than any Linux installation00:51
LegoDanielI don't have any problems with Windows 98/XP.00:51
LegoDanielI will try again in vbox00:52
andytcan't even find the media manager00:52
neville_If this Linux stuff is a wste of time, why are you persisting?00:52
LegoDanielGood question.00:53
LegoDanielMAybe stubborn.  lol00:53
LegoDanielThis is the error I get:00:53
LegoDanielThe VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE).00:53
andythey what about me? I like linux00:53
neville_Head back to Windows then, since it needs no configuration.00:53
DragnslcrLegoDaniel- did you try starting it with sudo?00:54
neville_No00:54
LegoDanielYeah.  Same error00:54
neville_Can't you see it tells him exactly what he needs to do?00:54
LegoDanielI don't understand what it means or where to find what it needs.00:55
andytdoes anyone know why I the above error00:56
DragnslcrLegoDaniel- what does ls -al /dev/vboxdrv say?00:56
andytI m not disn linux just anoob00:56
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LegoDanielcrw-rw---- 1 root vboxusers 10, 62 2008-05-10 19:47 /dev/vboxdrv00:57
DragnslcrLegoDaniel- I would think that running it with sudo would work. I guess you can try adding your user to the vboxusers group and see if that does it00:59
LegoDanielWhere do I find the vboxusers group?00:59
LegoDanielThe file vboxdrv cannot be loaded.00:59
andytcan anyone please tell me how to restart mediamanager?00:59
DragnslcrLegoDaniel- System Settings -> User Management, add vboxusers to the list of secondary groups01:00
andytcan anyone please tell me how to restart mediamanager?01:02
_crash_awfully quiet in here01:08
andytwhy do I get the error mediamanger is not running on the second time i look at files on a cd?01:09
andytfirst look ok, 2nd look kde mediamanager is not running , can't even find my mediamanager01:11
andytanyone?01:12
andytplease01:12
_crash_Id help if I could man01:12
_crash_sorry01:12
andytthanx anyway crash, but out of 324 poeple sombodys got to know01:14
andytisn't this a channel for kubuntu help?01:15
geniiandyt: Yes it is. But the quality of help you receive depends on who may be present that could know a solution to your specific issue01:16
SlimeyPetenot all of those 324 people will be watching the channel01:16
SlimeyPetea lot of us are in here 24/7 but aren't always watching01:16
andytdid not know that new to the irc thing01:16
SlimeyPete:)01:17
andytso no one has had this error but me? Does anyone know how to restart mm w/o reboot?01:19
andytrebooting on every data source is a real pain01:19
nohelphereIM TIRED OF ^THIS ERROR FROM DOLPHIN The desktop entry file01:19
nohelphere/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop01:19
nohelpherehas an invalid menu entry01:19
nohelphereaddAsPodcast.01:19
andytshould i stop using dolphin?01:20
andytI don't know what nohelp was saying01:21
nohelphereThe desktop entry file01:21
nohelphere/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop01:21
nohelpherehas an invalid menu entry01:21
nohelphereaddAsPodcast.01:21
SlimeyPeteandyt: I don't think he's talking to you01:22
andytoooo01:22
andytok known bug then?01:22
nohelphereThe desktop entry file01:23
nohelphere/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop01:23
nohelpherehas an invalid menu entry01:23
nohelphereaddAsPodcast.01:23
nohelphereis that a known bug?01:23
nohelpherei remove damarok01:24
andytwhat01:24
nohelphere%s01:26
nohelphereerr01:26
nohelpherean error from dolphin01:26
_crash_Previsouly, On Battlestar Galactica01:26
andytscuse me im still a noob01:26
Armagguedesjust get rid of Dolphin/D3lphin01:27
Armagguedesit's bollocks01:27
Armagguedesinstall Krusader instead01:27
Armagguedes(or use Konqueror)01:27
andytok so dolphin is the problem01:28
andytthanx for the help01:30
nohelphereill rmeov edolphin01:32
andyti removed dolphin konqueor gives the same message ,mm not running do I need a reboot?01:35
WalzmynI sure do wish I could stay connected.01:35
iceolateanyone know a proxy address? i cant use http at the moment... need to update a package or two01:44
Walzmyniceolate, sorry, i don't01:45
iceolatewalzmyn: cheers01:46
pulaskiHello, I just updated from gutsy 7.10 to hardy heron 8.4 and as sudo I moved a file from my Desktop to /etc/apt.  Unforunately I moved my Desktop directory to /etc/apt.  When I moved it back to ~/ it now shows all the contents of home.  When I ls ~/Desktop it displays all the files I orignially had there. When I check right click Configure Desktop there is no option I can turn off so it only displays the contents of ~/Desktop02:10
pulaskias before.  Does anyone have any ideas how I can fix my Desktop display to only show the contents of ~/Desktop?02:10
Firefishegads pulaski..what a faux pas that was ;) hee02:12
Firefishelet me think02:12
Firefishefor a moment02:12
edgar_hi02:13
Firefishehi edgar02:13
pulaskithanks Firefishe, it is a hassle.02:13
Firefishelet's see.02:15
Firefishedid you do this on CLI?02:15
pulaskino a in an xterm02:15
FirefisheCommand Line Interface02:15
Firefishe;)02:15
FirefisheI should've just said xterm02:15
pulaskino worries you know six of one ....02:16
edgar_alguien sabe q paso kubuntu-es02:16
Firefishewhat directory were you in when you moved the file?02:16
Firefishesix of one...nope.02:16
pulaskiI was in /etc/apt02:16
Firefisheso you did a:  cd /etc/apt02:16
Firefisheis that correct?02:17
pulaskiI was in /etc/apt and wanted to type 'sudo mv ~/Destop default_hardy_sources.list .' but I it looks like I may have typed something else but that seems unlikely.02:19
FirefisheFirefishe used to have Debian on his snow skis, but the gtk+ bindings in /boot failed, and he had to reinstall, but it was all downhill from there.02:19
Firefishesudo mv ~/Desktop/<filename> /etc/apt should've done the trick02:20
Firefisheif you forgot the trailing / you may have nixxed it02:20
pulaskihmmm02:21
Firefisheas in:   sudo mv ~/Desktop <filename> ...02:21
Firefisheit may have truncated the filename, and just moved the entire directory02:21
FirefisheWhereas:    sudo mv ~/Desktop/<filename> /etc/apt    would have worked02:22
Firefishenow, what to do to get you back02:22
Firefishedo you still have the xterm up?02:22
pulaskiyes I was typing with abandon which is never a good idea as sudo.  Well its not exactly as I preferred but I suppose I can live with it.02:22
pulaskisure02:22
pulaskiOh wait not the original02:23
Firefishecan you scroll back through the command list, and /query me and paste it so I can look at it?02:23
Firefisheoh well02:23
Firefishealthough02:23
pulaskiI even rebooted to I can't check the history can I?02:23
Firefishethe buffer may be there02:23
Firefisheouch02:23
Firefisheit may be there02:23
FirefisheI don't use xterms, though.  I prefer Konsole.02:24
pulaskiyeah the buffer is still there.  Just as I reported above.02:24
Firefishescroll up and through it..copy each and every command from the first time you moved, in the order of completion.  Then paste the entire thing into a text file, copy it, and you may /query me and paste it there.02:25
DaSkreechHallo02:26
DaSkreechcan someone help me sort out my sound dev files?02:26
Haemogoblinhello02:26
DaSkreechI have some sound issues I >think< can be traced to my dev folder02:26
pulaskioh I just noticed Firefishe I omitted the / between ~/Desktop and <filename> that was my original mistake.02:26
HaemogoblinTalking of sound, can one recommend a low resource mp3 player02:27
Firefishepulaski: aha!  we know what the culprit was02:27
HaemogoblinAmarok seems to have trouble reading some of my mp3's02:28
Firefishepulaski: go back slooooowly through and piece it together in your mind...what, pray tell, happened to the rest of the desktop?02:28
pulaskiI'm looking at the history and I see nothing that I didn't do correctly.02:28
* DaSkreech gently taps crimsun if he has some time02:28
pulaskiexcept my original mistake.02:28
pulaskiFirefishe, its only about twenty lines or so, I doubt it would serve any purpose.02:30
Firefishepulaski: sometimes 20 lines can make a 30,000 piece of software work better ;)02:30
FirefisheI leave it up to you02:30
Firefishe30,000 line that is02:30
pulaskiHaemogoblin try xmm02:30
pulaskilol Firefishe02:31
Firefishepulaski...go ahead and paste it, I may be able to see something missed.02:32
Firefishejust not here.../query me02:32
pulaskisure I'll paste it stand by please02:33
* Firefishe stands by a large, papier mache' tux02:34
pulaskihere you go Firefishe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11348/02:35
Firefishek pulaski..let's take a lookiee02:36
Firefishepulaski:  what's with the . at the end of the first line?02:39
Firefishealso, I see you don't use absolute pathnames02:39
pulaski. copies or moves to the current dir, sometimes I do sometimes not, mostly between ~/ or ~/Desktop only.02:40
Firefisheso you wanted to move /home/<yourname>/Desktop to .  ?02:41
Firefisheoh02:42
Firefishenm02:42
Firefishenot seeing the prompt directory you are in, it's hard to visualize02:42
FirefisheI get it02:42
pulaskiFirefishe: is was in /etc/apt and I wanted to move ~/Desktop/<filename> to /etc/apt02:42
Firefishegotcha02:42
Firefishegot that now02:42
Firefishe*bonk*02:42
pulaskiyes sorry I omitted that part02:43
sarahDoes anyone here have Amarok?02:43
sarahI started mine once... it crashed... so I restarted... it crashed again... and now it won't start.02:44
FirefisheAmarok...*grumble*02:44
sarahAnyone?  Anyone at all?02:44
Firefishesarah02:45
FirefisheThat thing has crashed my system twice this week02:45
sarahYou didn't really like it, Firefishe?  aaaah, that's a shame02:45
FirefisheKubuntu 7.04 Feisty02:45
sarahit was so cool before it crashed02:45
pulaskiWell Firefishe I've taken up do much of your time.  I appreciate your response.  I imagine I'll live with it or eventually find a solution.  I hope hardy heron works out well enough, I wouldn't like to have to downgrade back to gutsy.02:45
FirefisheI love it02:45
* BonesolTeraDyne uses Exaile02:45
Firefishepulaski: no time at all, I'm here until the cafe' closes at eleven central :) hee02:45
Firefisheno worries02:45
Armagguedesi use heavily Amarok02:45
* DaSkreech has Neon02:45
sarahMine's Hardy Heron... not 100% of the release number, I'm new to this Linux stuff02:45
DaSkreechdoes that count?02:45
Armagguedeson Hardy, fully updated02:45
Armagguedesno probs02:45
DaSkreechsarah: Welcome to Linux!!!02:45
DaSkreechWelcome to Kubuntu02:46
FirefisheWelcome :)))02:46
Firefisheindeed02:46
BonesolTeraDynewelcome02:46
sarahNeon's Amaroks' sister program, isn't it?  Like it's beta version or something?02:46
Armagguedesbemvinda =)02:46
* Firefishe does a Boy Scout Round of Applause (claps his hands and moves them around in a circle)02:46
sarahaww, thanks... I like it more than Windows, I can say that much02:46
Armagguedesbeta for the upcoming version 202:46
Firefishesarah:  my amarok experience was weird.02:46
sarahSo yeah... no one's Amarok works quite right then?02:47
FirefisheI was playing an .ogg file from the NTFS/WinXP side of the drive.  The song got to a certain point, then the entire system started to stop...02:47
DaSkreechIt's amarok snapshots of where it was last night02:47
sarahyeah, that sounds like me02:47
sarahI'm not sure if it just hates Porcupine Tree or what...02:47
FirefisheI had to do a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to get to a console, and I saw some weird NTFS file error message that repeated, almost like the file system structure was corrupted02:48
DaSkreechI'll assume thats a band and not a tea plant02:48
DaSkreechBye Sarah02:48
Armagguedesi would be an interesting tree02:48
DaSkreechYeah :)02:48
DaSkreechHarvest time should be televised02:49
pooliHi. I've installed Kubuntu 8.04 right now. I can mount other filesystems, however owner of all files on these filesystems is root (ext3). Is this a bug? Thanks02:49
andyttwisted roots?02:49
sarahSo... Ctrl-Alt-Backspace goes to the log-in for me02:49
sarah:S  I'm not sure... I'm just going to try another media player, seems like there's a few dozen02:50
FirefisheDaSkreech:   What would cause amarok to do that, get to a certain portion of an .ogg song on the windows side (NTFS) whilst being played on amarok on the kubuntu side, then have that weird file access error?02:50
sarahany recommendations?02:50
Firefishexmms02:50
FirefisheRhythmbox02:50
Armagguedessome kubuntu's ago i had similar problems02:50
Armagguedesconsistent crashes02:50
Firefishereally Armagguedes?02:50
Armagguedesall the time02:50
Firefishewith Amarok?02:51
sarahAh, I already have Rhythmbox... never came to me to try it, LOL02:51
Armagguedesiirc it was amarok02:51
sarahDoes Kaffiene work well?  It's also installed on here02:51
FirefisheArmagguedes: How does Kubuntu mount the win drive on dual boot systems, anyway?02:51
DaSkreechsarah: I'm almost sure Firefishe meant alt+ctrl+F1 (you use Alt+ctrl+F7) to get back to GUI02:51
Armagguedesreading off a 3rd partition (1st was xp/ntsf 2nd was kubuntu/ext3 and 3rd was share/ext3)02:51
Armagguedespure reinstall solved it02:52
DaSkreechpooli: I don't think so you mounted them as root02:52
pooliWhen I mount it from Dolphin and try to enter to mount point it shows "Could not enter folder /media/disk". Permissions on mount points in media are set to root. I know I can change it, but I don't want to do big hacks, I hope there is another more intuitive way... (and I want to preserve permissions on my ext3 fs)02:52
Armagguedesand the CD was ok too02:52
pooliDaSkreech: no, i didn;t02:52
Armagguedesduring install i used the manual partiitoner02:52
pooliDaSkreech: But permissions on these files and on mount point are set to root02:52
Armagguedesand just mounted the windows partition as /windows/ (so, under root- / )02:52
DaSkreechsarah: Yeah Kaffiene is more a video player but it does a decent job02:52
Mr_SonomaI have a xp box set up to be the home for my printer, my wife's vista machine found the printer without issue but on Hardy when i go to System Settings > Printers > Add > Add Printer > SMB Shared Printer then hit the "scan" button to scan the network I only see the Hardy machine. But if i go to Remote Places from the "System Menu" I can see all 3 machines  (the xp box, vista box and this box) what am i doing wrong? tips on setting up a win02:52
Mr_Sonomadows hosted printer using the graphical tool?02:52
sarahAhhh, sweet, I've got my Porcupine Tree back... thanks ya'll!02:52
FirefisheDaSkreech: No, I meant backspace...I just wanted to kill the xserver and start over, but I couldn't get back to the GUI.  cmd-alt-f7 took me to where the gui used to be, but it had that weird error that repeated02:52
Armagguedesand just accessed stuff from there02:52
sarahI'll have to remember to use Konversation next time I need something I can't find02:53
DaSkreechsarah: For your info Alt+Ctrl+Backspace restarts the X server so it logs you out of the graphical interface and restarts it02:53
DaSkreechpooli: You don't have to force premissions change you can mount it with umask=0022 in the fstab02:54
pooliDaSkreech: Oh, ok... thank you. So do you think that this is bug ?02:54
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DaSkreechNot a bug. Perhaps an oversight02:55
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* NeoCortex throws flasks at crashev 02:55
* NeoCortex throws flasks at CrashBandicoot even02:55
skooliI have some issues with kubuntu: x-server is totally broken, only shows fancy colors. tried 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, live cds aswell as alternate cds with a full install, its the same every time. screen looks like this -> http://images.voric.com/files/IMG_0254_m0fp1.JPG02:55
NeoCortexpooli: Check if it's mentioned in the bugs database and add your vote to it02:56
CrashBandicootow02:56
CrashBandicootwhat the hell02:56
skooliis anything like that known to have happened before?02:56
CrashBandicootthat was my dome man02:56
pooliNeoCortex: I already did it... currently no post02:56
NeoCortexpooli: Post one then02:56
pooliok02:56
NeoCortexskooli: I'll assume you tried safe graphics mode ?02:56
ubuntuHello02:58
Firefishehello02:58
pooliNeoCortex: I remember that in 7.10 the owner was root and group was plugdev. Now group is set to root too.02:58
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CrashBandicootubuntu: type /nick YourName02:58
SuddenCorruptSup02:58
Firefisheskooli:  I've had similar issues with certain displays02:58
NeoCortexpooli: Hmm that might be it...02:58
skooliuhm :x sort of not so much, but the default created xorg.conf is empty for the important parts (changing to a console works)02:58
Firefisheskooli: often it's adapter compatibility02:58
skooliwill try that though02:58
SuddenCorruptAnyone a hacker :O02:58
Firefishewhat a q.02:58
Firefishelol02:58
skoolihow can i solve that, Firefishe?02:58
NeoCortexskooli: Yeah New X with no COnf file02:58
CrashBandicoot*cough cough*02:59
SuddenCorruptlol02:59
CrashBandicootIm ahcin02:59
NeoCortexSuddenCorrupt: Yes02:59
SuddenCorruptYeah02:59
Firefisheskooli...what version of x?  x.org or xfree86?02:59
SuddenCorruptsuddencorrupt@hotmail.com02:59
SuddenCorruptYe^^02:59
SuddenCorruptAnyone who how I can get sound? I have an intel sound card, no sound on kubuntu02:59
skoolii dont know exactly, used the versions as mentioned above02:59
Firefisheskooli:  sorry, let me look up03:00
NeoCortex!sound03:00
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:00
Kirysuddencorrupt, I have the same problem once I updated my laptop to kubuntu 8.0403:00
Firefisheskooli:  can you use a console graphics setup tool?03:00
Kiryhaven't been able to fix it since the update03:00
skoolii have a working shell, yes03:00
NeoCortexskooli: on the Live CD when it starts up choose safe graphics mode03:00
Firefisheskooli:  as in:   sudo apt-reconfigure x.org   (people, is this right or am I shooting blanks?03:01
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SuddenCorruptHmm03:01
DaSkreechsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:01
SuddenCorruptIts checked off03:01
Firefishethanks DaSkreech..it's been so bloody long...time to get back to the console03:01
DaSkreechFirefishe: Alt+ctrl+BkSpc? :)03:01
FirefisheLOL03:02
CrashBandicootmy console broke03:02
CrashBandicootso I have to use Konsole!03:02
SuddenCorruptNeoCortex: suddencorrupt@hotmail.com add me ;)03:02
FirefisheDaSkreech:   I need to spend tomorrow RFMT'ing again03:02
Firefishe*duck*03:02
skooliwhat can i do if safemode works, NeoCortex?03:02
CrashBandicootlol DaSkreech: IT'S A TRAP!03:02
CrashBandicootDONT BE AN HERO!03:03
FirefisheAn???  Gads, it's....The Determiner!03:03
SuddenCorruptAnyone here a developer03:03
CrashBandicoot</oldmemes>03:03
SuddenCorruptCause kde rules03:03
SuddenCorrupt:)03:03
DaSkreechSuddenCorrupt: Please ask a support question or get to your point03:03
SuddenCorruptI have no sound03:04
Firefisheskooli:  do what DaSkreech said:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a console prompt, and reconfigure your card.03:04
SuddenCorruptok03:04
skooliokay03:04
DaSkreech!sound | SuddenCorrupt See if this helps03:04
ubottuSuddenCorrupt See if this helps: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP303:04
Firefisheskooli:  I'd select something not too heavy, or just use fbdev03:04
skoolithanks for now, i'll be back (or hopefully not)03:04
FirefisheFramebuffer Device03:05
Firefishejust fyi03:05
skoolik03:05
Firefishebrb for a bit03:06
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adrock358I have a question for you guys03:21
flaccid!ask03:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)03:21
skooliok, following situation: i got hardy installed, booting the hardy live disc in graphic safe mode works. how can i proceed to get the installed version to work? i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org and tried several drivers, but the result was always the same (funny screen as beofre)03:22
flaccid:o03:22
skoolifor what its worth, im new to this03:22
adrock358is there such a device that allows you to hook up an external power source to your laptop?  Something that allows you to plug a power cord INTO your laptop?  THrough pcmcia or usb or something other?03:23
neville_skooli sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then change your video driver to vesa with sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start03:23
adrock358skooli.  what happened?  hardi isn't working for you?03:23
skooliposted a screenshot above what my screen shows, dont have the link right now03:24
dennisterok channel...this new cifs is giving me a real rash here...has anyone got it working so samba shares mount at boot?03:24
skoolii will try that, thanks neville_03:24
dennisternowhere can i find any idea as to what the error codes mean03:25
neville_I get the same problem with the nv driver on my 6600GT (or so it seems)03:25
adrock358lola03:27
adrock358bla bla bla03:28
skooliyou are my superhero neville_03:28
neville_it worked?03:28
skoolibeatufilly03:28
skooliyay03:28
neville_okay, so that means you just forgot to restart X03:28
skooliexcuse me?03:29
neville_before, when it didn't work03:29
skooliyes?03:29
skoolibooted several times, never worked03:29
neville_And when you tried different drivers, and still no dice03:30
skoolididnt try vesa03:30
skoolithat list is quite long03:30
dennisterhas anyone got cifs to work at all?03:30
neville_yeah, tell me about it03:30
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neville_but that's a good thing!!03:31
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skoolinext task: getting dual monitor to work03:33
neville_which video card?03:34
skooli7900gtx03:34
neville_i think nvidia settings can help you set it up03:34
DaSkreechskooli: http://images.voric.com/files/IMG_0254_m0fp1.JPG03:38
neville_yeah, it's pretty, eh DaSkreech? :P03:38
DaSkreechneville_: that's skooli's monitor03:38
DaSkreech!twinview03:38
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead03:38
neville_i know, I saw it before03:38
DaSkreech!dualhead03:39
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama03:39
jonj20hey03:39
DaSkreechThis is annoying03:39
DaSkreechI have sound but no sound card03:39
edgar_hi03:39
jonj20wats up03:40
skoolithats fixed now, DaSkreech03:40
DaSkreechhi jonj20 and edgar_03:40
jonj20hi03:40
skooliand currently im fiddling with the normal kde system settings to set up dual monitor03:40
skooliand it seems to be capable of doing all i want03:40
skooliright now at least03:40
Firefisheskooli: Ya get the monitor working?03:46
FirefisheI mean X?03:46
skooliyes03:46
Firefishegreat! :)03:46
Firefishewhat'd ya do?  the vesa t hing?03:47
skooliyes, dpkg-reconf and then vesa as driver03:47
DaSkreechYay vesa03:47
* Firefishe dreams of a linux gaming lappie03:48
neville_good work skooli, make a note of what you did too, for future reference03:48
Firefisheyep, skooli, good work that03:48
DaSkreechneville_: praise wisdom03:49
DaSkreechcan't tell you how many times I fixed something and swore man that took me two weeks I'm sure to remember03:49
FirefisheWrite It Down03:50
Firefishe;)03:50
DaSkreech3 years later when I finally do a reinstall and it breaks.03:50
DaSkreechUmmm Wait... didn't I do this already? DOh!!!03:50
DaSkreechThat's the worse benefit of Linux. It works and does what you tell it to do03:50
DaSkreechWOrst03:50
Firefishe$ gedit ~/my_foolish_way_and_how_I_overcame_them.txt03:50
Firefishe;)03:50
Firefisheways03:50
* Firefishe so wants to learn coding, shells scripting, even dreams of being a linux professional one day...*sigh*03:51
Firefisheshell03:51
DaSkreechFirefishe: Ha ha :) Cmon Let the hardware take *some* blame03:51
DaSkreech!bash03:51
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:51
* Firefishe the 42 year old wannabe nerd ;0) LOL03:52
DaSkreechFirefishe: Sounds Good. Lets make a Movie!03:53
Firefisheheh03:54
FirefisheDIVX format DVD of course ;) hee03:54
Firefisheno regional coding03:54
Firefishe$9.99, we sell a billion or so.  who says open formats can't make you rich LOL03:55
DaSkreechApple03:55
DaSkreechWait they use h.264 don't they?03:55
DaSkreechahmm03:55
FirefisheDaSkreech: I need to bone up on my open video formats.03:56
* DaSkreech nods like he understands03:57
jmichaelxis anyone else just experiencing random temporary freezes in hardy?04:06
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Nyadits football dude, not soccer04:08
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ganryumvpi can't get video to work on my kubuntu 8.04 install. lspci lists it as a VIA S3 Unichrome but everytime i "startx" it fatal errors with "no screens found". video works on kubuntu live cd-boot though. no differences in xorg.conf between them. any ideas?04:17
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Dr_willisVia has always caused problems. :() Odd that theres no diff in the xorgs'   Guess its an issue with the auto-configuring-X in hardy.04:23
ganryumvpyeah it's a strumpet of a card but i was hoping to make it work anyway :(04:24
jason_Hi. I have just installed my new kubuntu hardy and the restricted driver manager popped up and asked me If I want them, but I want to use the opensource drivers. are they automatically being used and how do they compare to the proprietary version?04:27
Dr_willisdepends on the devices.04:28
jason_8800GT04:30
jason_nvidia04:31
pablonchowensa04:31
DaSkreechjmichaelx: due to something?04:32
DaSkreechganryumvp: Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?04:33
pablonchoDaS04:34
Dr_willisfor optimal 3d speeds and ussage you will want to use the nvidia restricted drivers04:34
Dr_willisbut if you are just doing normal 'work' it proberly wont matter much04:34
DaSkreechATI opensource stuff is getting up to snuff?04:34
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  Not that ive heard of.  They made a big deal about it. then dident seem to be much in the news about them lately04:35
DaSkreechDr_willis: I have an annoyance04:36
ganryumvphow do you force X to auto-configure xorg.conf ? my xorg.conf has no real info in it other than Identifiers so maybe that's why my VIA Unichrome refuses to work?04:36
_2!reconfigure04:36
ubottuFactoid reconfigure not found04:36
_2sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:37
ganryumvp_2: ty sir04:37
_2and X does not configure xorg.conf   dpkg does.04:37
_2welcome04:37
_2!dpkg04:38
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.04:38
DaSkreechDr_willis: I have sound but apparently no sound card :)04:38
_2hmm DaSkreech i have a sound card but no sound.   ;/04:38
DaSkreech:-)04:41
DaSkreech_2: upgraded to Hardy ?04:41
Dr_willisI bet its that Pulse Audio stuff! your sound is going to his computer!04:41
DaSkreechHooray Network transparency :)04:41
dwidmann_laptoplol04:41
_2DaSkreech no.   just recovered from a total borked04:42
DaSkreech_2: Fresh install?04:43
_2Dr_willis hehhe04:43
dwidmann_laptop_2: so you've upgraded to an only partially borked install. That's at least somewhat of an improvement04:43
DaSkreechDr_willis: Do you have a /dev/sequencer or a /dev/snd/seq ?04:43
_2DaSkreech ummm 3 years old..  fresh04:43
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DaSkreech_2: ha ha :)04:43
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  Yes..I have both. :)04:44
_2dwidmann_laptop lol   no.  it was fine   then i pluged an M$ cd in and booted it....  it ate my hda thinking it was empty04:44
Daisuke_Laptophardy upgrades make baby (insert deity or prophet of choice) cry.04:44
DaSkreechDr_willis: Ah Bloody...04:44
DaSkreechhow do I get them?04:44
Dr_willisno idea on that.04:45
dwidmann_laptop_2: poor you04:45
Dr_willisThis is on my laptop04:45
* dwidmann_laptop inserts Linus Torvalds04:45
_2dwidmann_laptop i think not.    i recovered from partition/format to partitionless with only a very few files lost.04:45
DaSkreechDr_willis: Ok well most games (Haven't installed too many) mplayer and flash all play sound04:45
* BonesolTeraDyne watches as Linux explodes04:46
_2actually i think i handeled it quite well.04:46
DaSkreechOne game crashes saying no /dev/sequencer or dev/snd/seq found04:46
DaSkreechand nothing in KDE plays sound04:46
Dr_williswhat game is this?04:46
DaSkreechallacrost04:46
BonesolTeraDyneSounds like arts problems. I had that problem with Ut2K4, and had to kill "artsd" to make it work04:46
_2unfortunately, i'll be back.   ;/04:47
DaSkreechBonesolTeraDyne: Hmm04:50
DaSkreechWell another thing is that under sound in System Settings I have no hardware info at all04:50
BonesolTeraDyneO_o; That's never a good thing.04:51
DaSkreechBonesolTeraDyne: Esp when I've been listening to Music for months04:51
DaSkreechJust didn't occur to me that I have no other sounds04:52
_2and it looks like having restored linux made (hd1,0) unbootable04:53
* _2 can't figure out why he is playing with partitions anyway....04:54
BonesolTeraDynebecause it's fun?04:54
_2oh i found out what happened to the fs yestergo  when it misteriously crapped out.     "grub"04:54
* BonesolTeraDyne bangs head against desk04:55
_2seems you can't have grub and an ext2fs on the same disk04:55
BonesolTeraDyneI just don't get iptables...04:55
McRibIs there any way to copy all the music files from my Amarok playlist into a new directory?  As in, copy the actual .MP3/.FLAC files to a new folder, leaving the originals alone?04:55
DaSkreechMcRib: Eh?04:55
_2McRib know the base dir ?    you could use a find function04:56
McRibDaSkreech:  I have a playlist of some hundred files... I want to run mp3gain on them, but they're all organized in separate directories.  So I wanted to copy them all to a single directory without having to do each one manually.04:56
_2McRib example.   find /some/starting/point/ -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /new/path \;04:57
McRib_2: Unfortunately, my collection is over 2,000 songs strong.  All with the .mp3 extension.  Find wouldn't quite help me here.04:57
_2why not ?04:57
McRib_2: Because I would still need to enter each individual filename.04:58
_2no04:58
McRib_2: I have all the songs I want in my Amarok playlist already...04:58
_2you obviously don't understand what the example does.04:58
_2and you could feed the filenames from a file if you wanted.   but i'll hush.04:58
Dr_willisi wonder what format amarok saves the playlist in.04:58
Dr_willisthats the big issue.04:59
_2ascII isn't it ?04:59
DaSkreechMcRib: The first thing would be to export the playlist to a file that can be read by a program04:59
Dr_willisI dont use it. so dont know. :)04:59
McRib_2: You're right, I don't... but I see the *mp3 and assume that would find every mp3 files under /starting/point, right?04:59
DaSkreechDr_willis: It's in the database but fairly certain you can export it as a file m3u or suck04:59
DaSkreechsuch04:59
_2McRib unless you feed in the file names from a list.file   as noted05:00
_2DaSkreech it is a database ?   i thought it was ascII text fiel05:00
McRib_2: I realize I'm annoying you with not understanding, but I don't know HOW to feed a list of filenames from a file.05:01
_2file05:01
McRibDaSkreech, Dr_willis: It does export to .m3u, but it's hardly just a list of files.05:01
DaSkreech_2: I'm certain you can get it as such but the current playlist is in the database isn't it? do they make a tmp.playlist file somewhere?05:02
McRibHmm... actually, if a line starts with #, don't most linux apps ignore it?05:03
_2McRib lets assume you can make a text file with the name desired.  (export or copy/paste even)   cat list.file | while read q ;do find /base/dir/ -iname "*$q*" -exec cp '{}' /some/place \; ;done       <<<< note that the wildcarded "*$q*"  could be more specific.  "*$q.mp3"  for instance.      you need to know exactly what you want and then just find a way to do it.05:04
DaSkreechMcRib: Wouldn't expect it to be05:05
_2McRib shell will consider #whatever as a comment   but not all config files follow that standard.05:05
sirmike1970mdhi all what is a good dvd playing prog for k05:06
DaSkreech_2: $q.[mMfF][pPlL][3aA][cC]05:06
DaSkreech:-)05:06
McRib_2: Well, the .m3u file that I was able to export to DOES list the full path to each file... every other line is commented out.05:06
DaSkreechsirmike1970md: I like kaffiene05:06
sirmike1970mdok thx05:06
_2McRib then find is not even needed .   cat file.m3u | read q ;do cp "$q" /some/path ;done05:07
DaSkreechsirmike1970md: feel free to try out others though VLC, mplayer etc05:07
sirmike1970mdgotcha05:08
_2!vlc05:08
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs05:08
McRib_2: Okay, I'll try that then.  thank you05:08
_2McRib welcome05:08
McRib_2: Hey... sweet :P05:09
McRiberr...nevermind05:09
_2!cli | McRib05:10
ubottuMcRib: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:10
McRibAh... yeah, it worked, but errored on each commented line.05:10
McRib...but not problems.05:10
_2append 2>/dev/null   to stop that from happening05:10
_2a shell loop can have output redirrected as well as the inner proccesses that it calles can.05:11
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_2example    for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;done      <<< that will redirect all output to stderr  but       for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;done 2>/dev/null     <<<< that will squelch all error reporting...05:13
_21#  for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;ls ;done >/dev/null       2# for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;ls ;done 2>/dev/null            <<<< maybe a better example?05:14
DaSkreechslightly05:15
DaSkreechIf the person has a clue what >&2 is :)05:15
DaSkreechubuntu has joined #kubuntu05:15
DaSkreechIf only :-(05:15
_2i dont' know.   i think i like the first post on that better.   easier for me to follow, thinking in terms of ignorances05:17
DaSkreechthe second is a better example but only if you already know what you are trying to demonstrate :)05:18
_2McRib FFR   grep -v '#' file.m3u | read q ;do cp "$q" /some/path ;done          <<<< that would ignore the commented lines.05:19
Nyad!MD505:19
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:19
DaSkreech_2: sure you don't want ^# ?05:20
DaSkreechj trac05:20
_2DaSkreech no.  if there is a # anywhere in the line cp will fail    so, no.05:20
_2or give bezar results...05:21
DaSkreechMight that not be preferable ?05:21
_2lol   no.05:21
DaSkreechso you know this entire album which was named in a retarded manner didn't get the treatment all ther rest of my cherished music did ?05:22
McRib_2: Ah... very nice.  Thank you.05:22
McRibheh... should I be suspicious when mp3gain applied a change of -5 to ALL my files? ;)05:23
_2supose the line had comments example: /path/to/file.mp3 #some genera, some class  <<<<  then the cp command becomes    cp "/path/to/file.mp3 #some genera, some class " /new/location      <<<< which obviously will fail and spew error messages all over the screen.    can't have that happening.05:24
_2McRib heh  maybe...05:24
DaSkreech_2: Right but that's unlikely in a m3u and if the actual file/path had a # in it I would want to know05:25
McRibOh well... thanks for you help, everyone.05:25
DaSkreechMcRib: slightly less live recordings of german headbangers ball ?05:25
* DaSkreech still would like to sort out his No soundcard but sound thingy05:26
McRibhmm... no.  It's all mellow music I'm going to be using at work for background music at a Mother's Day brunch ;)05:26
_2DaSkreech well like i first posted   .* ;done 2>/dev/null      and who care what errored, the user didn't see it... :)05:26
DaSkreech_2: erroring and failing are two different things05:26
McRibDaSkreech: Well, the cp didn't fail, it errored :P05:27
_2DaSkreech you say you have sound but no soundcard ?   does   lshw -C multimedia     list the card/chipset ?05:27
DaSkreechMcRib: I know it would :)05:28
DaSkreech_2: Yep05:28
DaSkreechand mplayer/flash etc all have sound05:28
DaSkreechnothing in KDE405:29
DaSkreechand at least one game freaks about there being no sound device05:29
_2ok.  then how did you come to the conclsion that you had "sound but no sound card"?05:29
DaSkreechwith System Settings -> Sound listing my sound engines but no hardware to play them on05:29
DaSkreech_2: One or two apps complaining of such05:30
_2oh pfft system settings05:30
DaSkreechYeah I'm not so worried by that :)05:30
DaSkreechand I guess I've gotten used to a fully silent KDE05:30
_2:)05:30
DaSkreechbut so far everyone seems to have a /dev/sequencer and I don't05:31
dwayneHow can i setup a printer that is on a network printserver. the printer is not listed in setup printers05:31
DaSkreechso I wanna know if that's a some quirk of my hardware or if there something that I can do about that05:31
_2umm i don't think i do.   only /dev/snd/sequencer05:31
DaSkreechi don't have that either05:31
_2you do have /dev/snd/  ?05:31
DaSkreechYes05:32
DaSkreechcontrol* pcm* and timer05:32
_2isn't sequencer used for midi ?05:32
DaSkreechYep05:32
_2you have timidity   or what ever it's called   installed ?05:33
cybergroupany noes good music creator for ubuntu 8 64bit05:33
DaSkreechI do now05:33
DaSkreechcybergroup: try #mediubuntu05:33
cybergroupok ill tryt05:34
cybergroupno one on that channel lmao05:34
_2DaSkreech ummm look on the page for setting up midi playback05:34
_2!midi05:34
ubottuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo05:34
DaSkreech!medibuntu05:34
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org05:34
DaSkreechDoh!05:34
DaSkreechcybergroup: #ubuntustufio sorry05:34
DaSkreechcybergroup: #ubuuntstudio of course05:35
cybergroupi got that installed but it onely work whit ampliyer and equalizer hardware05:35
DaSkreechOh good grief05:35
DaSkreech#ubuntustudio05:35
cybergroupyea i want it to work whit out it05:35
McRibHmm... for some reason now Amarok is telling me it can't copy files to my MP3 player because the "file is not playable on the device."  What's this supposed to mean?  They've been playable before...05:36
DaSkreech* Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...05:37
DaSkreechopen /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory05:37
_2<McRib> heh... should I be suspicious when mp3gain applied a change of -5 to ALL my files? ;) <<<< could that have anything to do with it ???05:37
cybergroupi think there are asleep >.<05:37
DaSkreechwell05:38
DaSkreech!patience05:38
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:38
DaSkreechAlso try them again tomorrow earlier. Unless you need that stuff sorted out tonight05:38
McRib_2: Yep... the originals copied just fine.... go figure. :P05:38
cybergroupbasacly ya lol05:38
McRib_2: No... I lied.  The originals failed with the same error.05:39
cahuezhello..!05:39
cahuezwhere can i find> http://kubuntu.org/packages/libdvdcss-amd64.deb ..05:39
_2DaSkreech sudo mknod /dev/snd/seq c 116 105:40
dwayneI have a HP deskjet D2445. It is connected to a network print server. Is there a compatble builtin driver for it ?05:40
McRibOh, I had to let Amarok know that .ogg files were supported (I hope they are ) :P05:40
_2DaSkreech sudo modprobe snd-rawmidi05:40
DaSkreech_2: after or first?05:41
_2one more.05:41
DaSkreech!dvd | cahuez05:41
McRibAmarok does, however, continue to corrupt the hell out of all the tags.05:41
ubottucahuez: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:41
DaSkreech!hp05:41
ubottuFactoid hp not found05:41
_2DaSkreech sudo modprobe snd-seq-device05:41
DaSkreechOh :(05:41
_2DaSkreech you may only need one of those  but i don't know which one will pull in the others05:42
_2then test it.05:42
cahuezubottu, can it be useful just to play dvd's as before..!?05:42
ubottucahuez: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:42
cahuezchecking...05:42
cahuezlibdvdread3 looks like already installed..!05:44
cahuezand i have added the medibuntu ones too..05:45
inteliwaspi just noticed that there is no xmms on 8.04... does anyone have a good replacement that is still lightweight?05:45
DaSkreechbeep ?05:46
_2vlc ?05:46
cybergroupsudo apt-get install vlc05:46
cahuezinteliwasp, try apt-get install audacious ..05:46
_2light weight ?05:47
cahuezyeap, i have already installed vlc..05:47
cahuezyeap..05:47
_2oh it's audacity i thinking of   nm05:47
DaSkreech_2: well it plays :)05:47
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draikWhat app can I use to move from one image to the next? I GIMP'd the same image a bit differently and want to create a *.gif from the different images being transformed into the next.05:47
DaSkreech_2: Should I drop the mknod into a startup script?05:47
_2DaSkreech you can add the module names to /etc/modules   and it should be static05:47
_2DaSkreech shouldn't need it next time.05:48
DaSkreechok05:48
cahuezaudacious is the one, and looks and works like xmms and winamp..05:48
dwayneI have the printer working, Well it printed the test page.05:48
DaSkreechDr_willis: Gimp ?05:49
DaSkreechdwayne: Great! how did you get it working /05:50
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_2i'm going to work on my boot issue...     it's really a pain trying to setup this thing like i want it.05:51
draik!nvidia05:51
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:51
draikIs there an app to do something like what I want?05:55
dwayneToday is the first time I have accesed the internet w/kubuntu. got the wireless lan card to work. kubuntu has been installed for a week. Its been 10 years since I messed w/linux. Looks like it has come a loneway. It looks really good.05:57
DaSkreechSo it took you 10 years to get the card to work!!!05:59
cybergrouphum guess wanst much help hehe06:02
_2howto remap a drive in "/boot/grub/menu.lst" ?06:12
DaSkreechRemap?06:14
_2yes.   from 0x81 to 0x80 bios address06:14
_2nm i think i found it.06:16
DaSkreechwotsit?06:16
_2   map (hd0) (hd1)06:17
_2   map (hd1) (hd0)06:17
DaSkreechof course06:17
Giant_SpeckI have a question if no one minds.  I'm on Kubuntu, and I recently reinstalled Firefox 2 after uninstalling the Firefox 3b5 that Hardy installed.  And now, for some reason, the settings I chose under "GTK Styles and Fonts" don't apply to Firefox anymore.06:17
DaSkreechCompiz ?06:18
Giant_SpeckI have it installed and running.  However, when I had 3b5, the effects still applied regardless of whether or not Compiz was running.06:18
Daisuke_Idoi do believe the ff3b5 that comes with hardy comes with ubufox.  you may want to check that out06:18
Giant_SpeckDoes ubufox work with FF2?06:19
Daisuke_IdoGiant_Speck: and which effects are you referring to?  buttons and such on pages and forms?06:19
Daisuke_Idoit should06:19
Giant_SpeckI remember uninstalling it when I uninstalled FF3.06:19
Giant_SpeckYes. Those effects.06:19
Giant_SpeckThose specific effects.06:19
Daisuke_Idoah06:19
Daisuke_Idothat's because ff2 does not support gtk+ themes for page elements06:19
Daisuke_Idothat's new in ff306:20
_2works.06:20
Daisuke_Idoand a long overdue inclusion06:20
dwaynehow do i set myself up with a nick, for irc?06:20
Giant_SpeckAha.  See, I didn't know that.  I actually forgot whether or not FF2 supports them or not.06:20
Daisuke_IdoGiant_Speck: no worries :)06:20
_2!nick06:20
ubottuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.06:20
Giant_SpeckBut I won't use FF3 until they support all of my addons.06:20
_2!register | dwayne06:20
ubottudwayne: please see above06:20
Daisuke_Idothat's not FF3 though, its the authors of the addons :)06:20
Giant_SpeckI realize that.06:20
Giant_SpeckI just didn't word it correctly.06:21
Giant_Specklol06:21
Daisuke_Idoand there's actually an addon that will disable version checking for other addons06:21
Daisuke_Idomost still work just fine06:21
Giant_SpeckDo you happen to remember the name of it?06:21
Daisuke_Idohttp://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly06:23
_2oh nice io errors06:23
Dr_willis'nightly tester tools' extension for firefox06:23
Giant_SpeckOkay, then.  I will try to reinstall Firefox 3 and use that.06:24
Giant_SpeckThanks.06:24
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WillMcHello all06:29
Dr_willis!hi06:29
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:29
WillMcJust switched from Gnome.06:30
Dr_willisI just install both kde and gnome. :)06:30
Giant_SpeckMe, too. :)06:30
Giant_SpeckBut I never log into gnome.06:30
WillMcI want to do that. I only have 10 gb06:31
* DaSkreech laughs06:31
Dr_willistheres a few gnome apps,m and settings tools i perfer over the kde variants06:31
DaSkreechAh I remember getting a 1Gb drive and thinking what the heck am I going to do with all this?06:31
Dr_willis:)06:31
Giant_SpeckMine is running on a 40GB partition.06:31
Dr_willisthats more space then ALL the floppies i have! :)06:31
Giant_SpeckThe other 100GB is Windows.06:31
WillMcMy first storebought dell had a gig.06:31
Dr_willisI got 10gb of just Wallpapers!06:32
Giant_Speck>.>06:32
DaSkreechDr_willis: Ha ha :)06:32
DaSkreechLots of Floppies for that :)06:32
WillMcMy windows machine has 250..I can network into :-)06:32
DaSkreechI should make a wallpaper of a Floppy that can't fit on a Floppy ^_^06:32
Giant_SpeckPunch cards. lol06:32
Giant_SpeckHAHA06:32
Giant_SpeckI make my own wallpapers.06:32
xanniCan anyone help with a printer problem?06:33
DaSkreechWillMc: Before I call OT on myself was there something you wanted to know?06:33
WillMcCommodore 64 1541,158106:33
DaSkreechxanni: ask away06:33
Dr_willisstack of floppies --> hard drive -> stack of cd's -> bigger hd --> stacks of DVD's --> BIGGER hd's ---> now im up to stacks of usb-hard-drives... next will be stacks of Fileservers06:33
_2i have one box with ubuntu linux + kde + gnome + blackbox + fluxbox + twm (desktop environments) installed and it only has 4g hdd06:33
xanniI just upgraded my PPC Mac Mini from Kubuntu 6.06 to 8.04 and now my Samsung ML-1710 only prints blank pages06:33
WillMcDo you have to congif kmail before it shows in the menu?06:34
TeslaTony!adept06:34
ubottuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:34
DaSkreechDr_willis: Blu-Ray :)06:34
Giant_SpeckMy latest wallpaper: http://www.mediagraphixhq.com/forums/uploads/U282-1210484022.png06:34
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  im still waiting for DVD-DL media to get reasonable.06:34
DaSkreechDr_willis: Never will06:34
DaSkreechMPAA made sure of that06:34
_2WillMc no06:35
DaSkreechxanni: nice jump what was the experience like?06:35
xanniThe foomatic driver dies with an error "rip failed", the ghostscript driver prints blank pages, and Samsung's own Linux driver doesn't support PPC06:35
Dr_willisHeck - every time i go to the stores now - the DVD movie section is smaller and smaller. and the Blueray section is larget and larget.06:35
xanniWell, going from LTS to LTS.  Not a good experience - 8.04 is good on x86, loads of bugs on PPC.06:35
WillMcI installed it. But I can't see it unless I run it in a window.06:35
Giant_SpeckI'm officially happy with FF3 now.06:35
_2WillMc kmenuedit06:36
xanniAt least flash almost works now.06:36
Giant_SpeckDaisuke_Ido: Thank you very much for helping me.06:36
WillMcOk..Thanks06:36
DaSkreechxanni: Yeah I thought that would be interesting06:36
_2if i had an internet connection, i'd be tempted to upgrade06:37
xanniI always had to custom compile stuff for PPC anyway, but it was getting harder and harder with the old libraries in 6.0606:38
xanniSo, any ideas to make the printer work?06:38
_2it worked with 6.6 ?06:38
xanniYes, worked fine.06:38
_2file a bug for starters06:39
xanniObviously.  Probably one against foomatic and one against ghostscript, since they have different symptoms.06:39
xanniJust hoping to be able to print since my partner has some legal documents that have to get printed tomorrow.06:40
xanniMight have to hook the printer to an x86 machine and use network printing I guess...06:40
WillMcThats what I did for my laser printer.06:40
WillMcIt made life a whole lot easer.06:41
_2well i'm went.     gooday you persons.06:42
* DaSkreech waves06:42
xanniIs it worth trying to backport newer versions of the printer driver?06:43
DaSkreechIf they work06:43
xanniWell, hard to know without trying I guess!06:44
xanniWhat's the easiest way to backport?06:46
Daisuke_IdoGiant_Speck: you're welcome06:46
Daisuke_Idoand now i'm off to bed06:46
DaSkreechxanni: A driver? #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel06:51
xanniWell, ghostscript and/or foomatic06:51
xanniThanks, I'll try there.06:51
hypernewbiehey, does anyone know how to disable screen font smoother for specific window/apps in KDE?06:59
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hypernewbielike i dont want font smoother for 1 application07:00
Dr_willishypernewbie,  dont think thats doeable.07:03
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hypernewbieDr_willis: :'(07:05
Dr_willisi cant even imagine why yoiu want to do so.07:05
DaSkreechhypernewbie: Not even cause of it not being a check box. As A technical feat I can't think of how taht would be done07:05
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mark__I've a question concerning dvd playback.  I have just installed kubuntu hardy (32-bit) and have added the medibuntu repos.  I've installed libdvdcss2 along with dvdbackup.  I've backed up a DVD and used DVDShrink to compess it to a single-density DVD.  I can play the DVD on my home DVD player and under windows, but when I attempt to play it with vlc or kaeffine I get a message stating I need to instal libdvdcss (which I've already07:06
mark__installed).  Am I missing something else?07:06
mark__I should add that I burned the backed up dvd (which I created as an ISO) to a single-density dvd via growisofs07:07
Dr_willisHmm.. why would a backed up dvd still have the  dcss entryption.07:07
mark__damn good question07:07
mark__what's more, why if it had the css would it play under windows and on my home dvd player?07:07
Dr_willissoubnds like vlc and kaffine are looking in the wrong places for the dcss stuff07:08
Dr_willisand not even trying07:08
mark__I can play back the raw files created from dvdbackup via vlc with no problem.  I haven't tried to mount the iso as a loopback device yet though07:08
mark__that's what I was thinking07:08
mark__a broken symlink then?07:08
mark__I've just gotten through reinstalling libdvdcss2 from synaptic and am goin to try playback again.07:08
mark__note: when Kaeffine indicates it can't playback the file it offer me an option to install the necessary lib which I selected.  The website I'm redirected generates a 404 however (http://kubuntu.org/packages/libdvdcss-i386.deb)...07:10
Dr_willisi normally just play the .iso straight from gmplayerm or whatever. I dont mount them via loop07:10
Dr_willishttp://lifehacker.com/350015/enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-two-commands07:10
Dr_willisTry that site.07:10
Dr_willisIts what i and others have follow3ed to get dvd playback going07:11
BluesKaj VLC will play iso's without probs07:14
DaSkreechVLC plays everything!! Except this one stupid file I have07:14
BluesKajDaSkreech, what's the extn ?07:15
mark__how very odd... I've never needed to go through that before.  Note it worked, and I'm not dissatified, but it is curious that I've been able to get dvd playback to work in the past without having to so this.  Is this something new with Hardy?  this is a fresh install (not an upgrade) and the first one I've done and tried to get dvd playback working on.  I will have to check out my other systems...07:15
DaSkreechbluszcz: .mdf I think07:15
Dr_willismdf can be a rather nonstandard  format. :)07:16
DaSkreechBluesKaj: .mdf I think07:16
DaSkreechbluszcz: My apologies07:16
Dr_willisI belive the fuseiso tool might be able to mount them07:16
mark__oh, and vlc does playback the iso just fine, thanks07:16
Dr_willisWhy would you have a video dvd in .mdf format?07:16
DaSkreechMy Uncle :-(07:16
mark__I'd assumed I'd needed to mount the device loopback07:16
BluesKajeeewwuue . mdf ..that's a rare  one ..seems that's a very old codec07:17
Dr_willismdf is the format used by daemon tools and other virtual dvd/cd  tools under windows07:17
Dr_willisits pripalrly used for  CopyProtected game disks.07:17
DaSkreechThat would probably explain why he has no issues07:17
neville_Hey yeah, you're right!! VLC can play iso images!!07:18
neville_I never had any idea...07:18
Dr_willisEvery so often you see some in here asking about 'deamon tools' for linux. :)07:18
Dr_willisneville_,  gmplayer can do it also.07:18
rakethey people, how do I install nfs servers?07:18
DaSkreech!nfs07:18
ubottunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:18
neville_Dr_willis, as far as something like Daemon Tools, acetoneiso2 seems to be good at what it does07:18
raketnice, thanks07:19
mark__Dr_willis: how did you come up with the link I needed so quickly?  Did you just happen to have it handy, or do you have some clever way of storing and indexing such information?  Aside from a bookmark (in which case I imagine it's your brain I even, knowing that the bookmark even exists)...07:19
Dr_willisdaemontools primary task is to fake out the copy protection. and emulate a dvd drive :) not  the creation of images.  Alcohol120% is normally used to make the .mdf disk images I recall.07:19
Dr_willismark__,  which link?07:20
mark__Dr_willis: http://lifehacker.com/350015/enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-two-commands07:20
BluesKajmark__, http://lindesk.com/2007/05/how-to-mount-isomdf-images-in-linux/07:20
Dr_willisI saw it on my live-bookmarks just this week.. for some ubuntu tutorial site.07:20
neo__I'm using kde4, why the taskbar looks ugly when i enable compiz or kwin effect?07:20
Dr_willisso i bookmarked it. - google for 'ubuntu dvd 101' and it finds it also.07:20
Dr_willisHow are you enbaling compiz under kde4 ?07:21
neville_I was meaning in the way that it can mount images with no archaic commands...07:21
mark__bloody brilliant it is.  Thank you again.  I have a tough time putting together a comprehensive list of reference material.  This is the sort of thing I'm going to need to know in a week or two and if I don't put it somewhere I'm going to scratch my head knowing I had a clue but not remember what it was.07:21
BluesKajwell, late for me ..still hammered ..pop a couple tylenol and it's  the sack...nite all07:22
neo__just like under gnome07:22
raketanother question, why does ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x doesn't respond sometimes?07:22
DaSkreechneo__: Hmm?07:22
neo__well.. How can i paste a screenshot?07:23
DaSkreechtinypic.com ?07:23
DaSkreechor imageshack07:23
Dr_williskde4 has its own composting window manager and fetures - using compiz under kde4 - would be... weird.07:24
Dr_willisThen again kde4 is very miuch a work in progress07:24
thechriswhat does anyone know about /dev/ram and the liveCD?07:26
neo__maybe i should be back to kde3..07:28
Dr_williskde4 is VERY much a work in progress.07:28
Dr_willisits not redy for mainstream ussage07:28
mark__agreed07:28
neo_http://i32.tinypic.com/9pvpmg.jpg  that's what it like..but agreed with what you said, I'm back to kde3.07:33
Lardarseamarok is mentioning that it can't find a "demux plugin"... which packages am i likely to be needing?07:38
aaroncampbellcan anyone real quick tell me what the owner of /home/.directory should be, and where it should be linked to?07:39
Lardarse /home should eb owned by root07:39
Lardarseand the permissions should be drwxrwxrwx07:39
Lardarseindivitual folders within it should be owned by the person who's hole folder it is07:40
DaSkreechLardarse: kubuntu-restriced-extras ?07:40
LardarseDaSkreech: this is on gutsy, not hardy07:41
aaroncampbellLardarse: I mean specifically the ".directory" hidden file in /home, it should be linked somewhere, and the link was lost during a driver recovery...I want to try to fix it07:41
DaSkreechI think it's the same07:41
Lardarseaaroncampbell: i'll look07:41
mark__lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-05-10 08:54 /home/.directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-home07:41
mark__that was my link.07:41
aaroncampbellthanks mark__07:41
mark__np07:41
aaroncampbellthanks Lardarse too07:41
Lardarseyeah, that07:42
Lardarsei can't paste as it's another computer07:42
LardarseDaSkreech: looks good, thanks07:43
AyabaraI'm looking for "the best" app to manage/edit my digital photos, and so far I think Digikam is the best I've seen. Anyone got other recommendations?07:51
DaSkreechDigikam07:52
DaSkreechoh wait07:52
DaSkreechummm07:52
DaSkreechumm07:52
DaSkreechF-spot?07:52
DaSkreechBut yeah digikam07:52
neville_Does anybody know if 9600GT graphics card is supported by 100.14.19 driver? I'd rather not use 169.xx if I can avoid it, since it seems to be sour version07:52
AyabaraDaSkreech: ok :-)07:52
thechrisDoes *buntu have a non-live-cd linux install option?07:53
DaSkreechthechris: Alternate07:53
neville_you'd be after alternative disk thechris07:53
DaSkreechOr ubuntuserver07:53
DaSkreechThey keep changing the name. Short answer is yes07:53
thechriswhat about if I don't want to use a CD/DVD for the install?07:54
DaSkreech!install07:54
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:54
thechrisyeah, doesn't work07:55
DaSkreechYou tried all the methods from all those links ?07:55
thechris(also, don't have windows)07:55
DaSkreechthechris: I suggest reading through those links :)07:56
thechrisi need to know either how to get the liveCD to create /dev/ram, or how to directly install from linux07:56
albertohi07:56
albertoGood morning07:56
spike_hi07:57
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digitalpsykois the 8.04 release of kde 4.0.4 stable enough to install?07:57
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: you expect it to crash before it even installs?07:58
DaSkreechThat's some lowered expectations :)07:58
thechrisDaSkreech: ok, well, which of them met my requirements?  i'm fairly sure none really do, but the "install from OS" one is the closest to be unsucessfully hacked into working.07:58
DaSkreechthechris: Read the last link ?07:58
digitalpsykolol sorry kind of a dumb question07:58
DaSkreechYou can install from USB or from the network07:58
digitalpsykois it a stable desktop environment?07:58
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: Yes.07:59
DaSkreechDoesn't have near the number of features yo uare used to07:59
DaSkreechbut it doesn't crash very much07:59
digitalpsykothanks man ive got the dvds torrenting right now07:59
digitalpsykoim actually not used to linux at all07:59
digitalpsykoim converting from windows07:59
DaSkreechthechris: the server CD doesn't work?07:59
digitalpsykoive tried installing sabayon07:59
thechrisDaSkreech: yeah, doens't work.  the "livecd" image can't create /dev/ram and fails07:59
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: Welcome :)08:00
digitalpsykobut i want somethi a bit more stable08:00
digitalpsyko:)08:00
DaSkreechthechris: Don't use the live CD08:00
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: LInux should have that at least08:00
thechrisDaSkreech: ok, the *cd image08:00
DaSkreechthechris: you tried the alternate CD and it didn't work?08:00
digitalpsykoi can do some stuff in linux just not much08:00
digitalpsykonot alot of the basics i need to know08:01
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: What?08:01
DaSkreechYou don't need to know the basics?08:01
digitalpsykoi do08:01
DaSkreechAh08:01
thechrisDaSkreech: hmm, i guess i can try that.  not expecting it to work, but might as well try.08:01
digitalpsykoi meant i dont know alot of the bsics i need too08:01
DaSkreechwell ask away08:01
DaSkreechthechris: I've never had it fail outside of a Bad CD08:02
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: When something causes you pain jump in here and let us know08:02
DaSkreechif it's KDE4 pain point there is  #kubuntu-kde4 as well08:02
thechrisnot really looking to burn a CD.08:02
digitalpsykoim getting the 3.5 version08:02
DaSkreechthechris: See that cuts out all chances of failure in my experience :)08:03
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: Neat :)08:03
digitalpsykoif i tell you my system specs can you tell me if it'll do ok for kubuntu?08:03
DaSkreechI can't imagine that it won't08:04
DaSkreech!paste | digitalpsyko Put them here08:04
ubottudigitalpsyko Put them here: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)08:04
digitalpsykook well theres really not 3 lines to it lol08:04
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: good habits are good habits08:05
DaSkreechhi sarah08:05
sarahhello !08:05
DaSkreechhow are you?08:05
sarahI'm fine thx08:05
digitalpsykoi have a 2.4 c2d,3gigs gskillddr2 800, 2 74gig WD Raptors, 1 WD1TB drive , and an Evga 8800gt 51208:06
DaSkreechgroovy08:06
thechrisDaSkreech: still, i'd like a way to just install without needing to hack things up to work.  It'll take a while to download though, so i can't immediately tell if this will work.  and while i'm fairly confident it will fail with the same /dev/ram error, I feel I must thank you for at least attempting to help.08:06
* DaSkreech laughs08:06
digitalpsykono good?08:06
DaSkreechthechris: are you booting from USB ?08:06
thechrisnope, from a 1G partiton on the HDD08:06
thechrisext3 partiton at that08:07
DaSkreechdigitalpsyko: I'm on a 1.2 Ghz T-Bird Athlon with 700 Megs of RAM08:07
digitalpsykosweet08:07
digitalpsyko i got antix mepis to run on an original thinkpad 770 233pentium,96mb,2mb graphic, 4gb hdd08:08
DaSkreechI've installed it on 700 Mhz PIII with 384 MB of RAM to upgrade it from win XP08:08
digitalpsyko:)08:08
digitalpsykoive been playing with distros for years08:08
digitalpsykokinda collect the live ones08:08
jasoonHow do install a new icon theme in Open Office?08:09
digitalpsykouseful for all sorts of stuff08:09
jasoonI have the crystal project icons08:09
jasoongoogle failing me :(08:09
vishahhi, is KDE 4.0.4 available in the repositories?08:09
DaSkreechYes08:10
DaSkreechvishah: http://www.kubuntu.org08:10
DaSkreechvishah: in topic as well08:10
vishahYes, I followed the instructions, but still It's the same version :(08:10
jasoonhave to choose it in logon screen I think?08:10
sivajiyes08:11
jasoondoesn't it install separately?08:11
jasoonsorry, bittergreen myself08:11
DaSkreechvishah: how do you know?08:11
jasoonprobably by the visuals daskreech08:11
vishahwell When I check the about dialog it doesnt show KDE 4.0.308:11
vishahplud the kickof menu is still the old one08:12
holyguyver_How do I install Jasper so that I can get webcam videos in Kopete?08:12
DaSkreechvishah: the menu doesn't change08:12
DaSkreechvishah: The about menu is a bug It will be fixed soon. Sorry08:12
DaSkreechholyguyver_: Compile it08:12
holyguyver_Where do I find the sourse for it?08:13
sivajii got my password irc passwd,  how to it ?08:13
DaSkreechholyguyver_: It's a license issue. trying to work it back to being good08:13
jasoonhave to compile it :P?08:13
jasoonme so lazy08:13
jasoonheh08:13
DaSkreech!register | sivaji08:13
ubottusivaji: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.08:13
jasoonI figured out how to install those icons08:13
holyguyver_DaSkreech the closest thing I found was a website talking about jpeg2000, is that the same thing?08:15
DaSkreechholyguyver_: that would be it08:16
holyguyver_Thanks08:16
jasoonKubuntu is so cool :o08:16
jasoonI would pay for this08:16
holyguyver_So DaSkreech what is the liscensing issue & what are they doing to fix that?08:16
navetzis there a way to unmake a makefile?08:17
DaSkreechthey can't link to libjasper anymore (you can just install libjasper in KDE3 and Yahoo works)08:17
DaSkreechholyguyver_: Oh I assume this is KDE4 right?08:17
holyguyver_no08:17
holyguyver_I am actually using xubuntu08:18
DaSkreechso once the jpeg-2000 guys update the license then we are good again08:18
holyguyver_gutsy08:18
DaSkreechholyguyver_: yes but did you install kopete or kopete-kde4 ?08:18
holyguyver_DaSkreech I am using Xubuntu Gutsy, & I installed regular Kopete08:18
navetzif I install something through a make file08:19
navetzcan I uninstall it?08:19
DaSkreechholyguyver_: Oh my apologies. Install libjasper and you will be ok08:19
jasoondid you look in aptget?08:19
DaSkreechnavetz: What are you installing?08:19
holyguyver_Alright thanks :D08:19
navetzDaSkreech: I installed a compiz 3d windows plugin08:19
navetzDaSkreech: but now its officially released and I would like to get rid of the one I installed08:20
LardarseDaSkreech: it worked (until something else killed X). thanks08:20
DaSkreechnavetz: Ah right. Well if you don't delete the directory with the sources you can CD in there and make uninstall08:20
navetzDaSkreech: thanks I'll try it08:20
navetzDaSkreech: I think it worke08:20
navetzd08:20
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DaSkreechnavetz: Course it did08:20
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jasoonIs there a gui way of copying to a folder in /?08:21
holyguyver_DaSkreech it said E: Couldn't find package libjasper08:21
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jasooncan someone tell me what the command for copy is?08:22
DaSkreech!info libjasper08:22
ubottuPackage libjasper does not exist in hardy08:22
jasoon!info copy08:22
ubottuPackage copy does not exist in hardy08:22
jasoonhaha08:23
holyguyver_well I am running Gutsy :p08:23
DaSkreech!info libjasper-runtime08:23
ubottulibjasper-runtime (source: jasper): Programs for manipulating JPEG-2000 files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.900.1-3 (hardy), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB08:23
jasoon!please help me08:23
ubottuFactoid please help me not found08:23
DaSkreech!info libjasper-runtime gutsy08:23
ubottulibjasper-runtime (source: jasper): Programs for manipulating JPEG-2000 files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.701.0-2ubuntu0.7.04 (gutsy), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB08:23
jasoon!info why not08:23
ubottuwhy (source: why): A software verification tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.04.dfsg-3 (hardy), package size 3689 kB, installed size 10280 kB08:23
jasoon!info alrighty then08:23
ubottuPackage alrighty does not exist in hardy08:23
DaSkreechjasoon: Please speak with the bot privately08:23
jasoonheh sorry08:23
holyguyver_Alright there the libjasper-runtime cammand worked :)08:24
holyguyver_It is installed, thanks DaSkreech :)08:26
DaSkreechrestart kopete08:26
holyguyver_I don't have to restart it, I haven't started it in over a week so it wasn't/isnt on :p08:26
holyguyver_I just need to start it up :p08:26
DaSkreechthere we go :)08:27
holyguyver_I am in xchat right now :p08:27
DaSkreechbooo08:27
DaSkreechkonversation08:27
DaSkreech:-)08:27
sacha_yaaay konversation! :D08:27
sacha_by the way, anyone know whats going on with konvo4?08:27
holyguyver_Well of course since this is the Kubuntu room :)08:28
DaSkreechholyguyver_: does Xchat-gnome work in xubuntu ?08:28
DaSkreechXchat is cool for scripting and little else08:28
holyguyver_Yes xchat works in xubuntu, that is how I am using it :p08:28
jasoonPretty please someone tell me how to copy with root priveledges?08:29
DaSkreechholyguyver_: No xchat-gnome08:29
DaSkreechjasoon: in the GUI?08:29
jasoonin anything?08:29
DaSkreechor just copy08:29
holyguyver_Konversation is nice but I am on a 1998 Gateway so most KDE apps are a bit heavy on this computer with its 4GB harddrive & 90Mbs of ram08:29
sacha_jasoon: sudo cp08:29
jasoonI just want to copy a folder08:29
jasoonthank you08:29
DaSkreechsudo cp here there08:29
DaSkreechcp -r for directory08:29
jasoonsudo copy /something.zip /home/whatever/08:30
DaSkreechholyguyver_: Yeah08:30
jasoonlike that?08:30
sacha_yes08:30
DaSkreechjasoon: no cp08:30
jasoonsorry that's what I meant08:30
jasoonthank you08:30
sacha_sudo cp ./something.zip /home/whatever/myfolder/08:30
jasoonty08:30
sacha_but you wont need sudo to copy to home directory lol08:30
jasoonjust e.g08:31
holyguyver_DaSkreech, but the good news is that I ordered a brand new HP today so soon I will be switching from Xubuntu to Kubuntu :)08:31
jasoonwhy does linux restrict end user via sudo?08:31
jasoonis there a way to logon as root?08:31
jasoonMy first using linux08:31
jasoon*first day08:32
holyguyver_DaSkreech :p I will be going from a 1998 to a 2008 :p08:32
jasoonquestions...questions08:32
sivajijasoon no08:32
sacha_jasoon: you dont want to login as root08:32
jasoonyes why not?08:32
sacha_jasoon: because then you can do anything without permission08:32
jasoonwhy am I restricting myself?08:32
sivajijasoon its diabled in ubuntu08:32
holyguyver_I have been told that I will like this new thing called USB08:32
jasoonPermission from who?08:32
sacha_you08:32
DaSkreechjasoon: in general yes08:32
DaSkreechjasoon: Ubuntu disables root login by default08:33
jasoonwhy do I need permission for sole user?08:33
JackWintercan anyone tell me where to find out which packaages were updated the last few days.  I did a full upgrade of a kubuntu 8.04 system, and at least 2 of the packages were uninstalled (wine (seperate depo) and amarok).  want to see what else is gone instead of being frustrated because someting isn't wroking ;)08:33
jasoonLol wall of text08:33
DaSkreechjasoon: because Linux asks no questions of root08:33
jasoonyes08:33
sacha_because one of your applications may be flawed. if you have root privileges, it can do anything to your system08:33
DaSkreechit will allow you to do the stupidest most destructive things without question or pause08:33
jasooni.e. a virus?08:33
sacha_if you say "i want to delete everything" and you are root. it wont question you. everything will be deleted08:34
DaSkreechJackWinter: check your dpkglogs08:34
jasoonok08:34
jasoonhow is this different from root user in windows saying delete everything?08:34
jasoonMY HANDS I KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!08:34
sacha_jasoon: if you accidently delete everything and you are the user, it wont let you because you didnt type in sudo or password08:34
DaSkreechjasoon: also if someone compromises your user he gets to mess with things in your home directory as root he has full access to the computer all users everyone on the network etc08:34
RameTux#join #blankon08:35
RameTuxsorry08:35
jasoonI see08:35
RameTux:D08:35
jasoonso really more of a concern when you have 1+ user08:35
sacha_jasoon: no, concern is same with 1 user08:35
jasoonhaha08:35
jasoonmeh, its funny :)08:35
sacha_a remote user could compromise you which is what daskreech was talking about08:35
jasoonah08:35
jasoonthat makes sense08:36
jasoonI'd figure if they were smart enough to compromise me, I'm pretty much screwed anyway08:36
jasoonhaha08:36
sacha_if you are root and someone gets on to your computer, they can do whatever they want.. if you are on windows and someone gets on to your computer, they can do whatever they want08:36
sacha_if you are a user on linux, they cant do much08:36
JackWinterDaSkreech: hehe where to i find the logs ?08:36
jasoonIndeed08:37
jasoonI understand08:37
jasoonok08:37
DaSkreechJackWinter: /var/logs08:37
jasoonsudo make me a sandwich08:37
DaSkreechjasoon: Well said :)08:37
jasoonhaha08:37
sacha_because no one on linux runs on root, people dont usually target linux08:38
DaSkreechsacha_: No one?08:38
jasoonjust one more obstacle eh?08:38
sacha_ok ive seen a few people in here as root lol08:38
jasoonACK08:38
jasoonMY ICONS08:38
jasoonthis was not a triumph!08:38
jasoongood news: I learned simple copy command08:39
jasoonbad news: icons=poof!08:39
jasoonhaha08:39
sacha_how?08:39
jasoonkind of has a nice minimalistic view I guess08:39
jasoonwell I got those crystal project icons08:39
jasoonfor open office too08:39
jasoonso I copied them over08:39
jasoonbooted up OO08:39
sacha_you copied the icons over?08:39
jasoonLet me see...08:39
jasoonyes08:39
sacha_you know in SystemSettings you can import an icon theme?08:40
jasoonyes08:40
sacha_you click import then click the theme and wahlah08:40
jasoonI just replaced the old crystal08:40
jasoonluckily backed up the old one08:40
jasoonbut what has science done?!08:40
sacha_science?08:40
jasoonI'm just being silly08:41
jasoonwent on forums08:43
jasoonThis happens when you change away from the default icon set for your desktop. You just need to get the other OOo icons, which are contained in the following packages:08:43
jasoonCode:08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-andromeda - Default symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-crystal - Crystal symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-default - Default symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-human - Human symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-industrial - Industrial symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-tango - Tango symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonopenoffice.org-style-hicontrast - Hicontrast symbol style for OpenOffice.org08:43
jasoonso just have to get those...08:43
sacha_:\ k08:44
jasoonheh08:44
jasoonbehold my massive wall of text08:45
digitalpsykolol08:45
sacha_whats wrong with koffice anyway? :P08:46
jasoonhaven't tried it08:47
jasoonbut I like openoffice08:47
LilSargeJoin my Chan. #LilSarge.com08:47
jasoonWonder how they compress the stuff on the cd so well08:47
jasoonamazing how much stuff they pack in 700mb08:47
sacha_it installs to about 3 gigs though08:48
jasoonthat's what I'm saying08:49
LilSargebest software is always the free stuff!08:49
jasoonhow'd they do that :)08:49
jasoonOnly 900 packages08:49
sacha_yeah08:49
jasoonIf I did a server install, could probably -200 packages08:49
jasoonbut I'm impressed with the default install08:50
LilSargewhat can i get rid of without hurting Kubuntu, to run normally?08:50
jasoonalmost everything seems useful08:50
sacha_theres much smaller distros08:50
sacha_fully featured with about 100-200MB08:50
jasoonNot ready for Arch+KDEmod just yet :)08:50
sacha_arch is going to be using more space since it's source code08:51
sacha_and kdemod is pretty bad really08:51
jasoonoh have you tried it?08:51
jasoonhow so?08:51
sacha_yeah08:51
sacha_kdemod doesnt get updated much and i dont like their changes08:51
jasoonI'm a complete newby08:51
jasoonit looked kind of cool from the screenshots08:52
LilSargeim about 3 months into linux08:52
sacha_if i want something bleeding edge i compile it from the svn or git08:52
jasoonI'm about 2 days :P08:52
jasoonUsed it for about a month back in 6.1008:52
JackWinterhere is the relevant portion of my dpkglogs.  anyone care to tell me what went wrong and why i lost progrs doing a full update ?  anything i should be aware of in order not to repeat ?08:52
jasoonlost progs? sh-t :o08:53
JackWinteropps ;) : http://pastebin.ca/101453408:54
LilSargei upgraded from 7.10 to the newest a few days ago and it messed up so i dled the new one and put on dvd and had a full reinstall :( lol08:54
sacha_yeah upgrades arent perfect08:55
sacha_and there's generally redundant stuff in there08:55
jasoon*note to self08:55
JackWinterLilSarge: i updated from 7.10 to 8.04 rc to 8.04 without a problem back when it came out08:55
sacha_ive upgraded fine before but a clean install is always that much better08:55
LilSargeJackWinter: Hmm i wonder what went wrong?08:55
jasoonlooks good doesn't it08:56
JackWinterI'm pretty sure i didn't do it myself, but i've managed to do rm -R in my home once so..;)08:56
jasoonlooks like everything installed08:56
JackWinterwell i lost at least wine and amarok08:57
LilSargeJackWinter: Did you try sudo apt-get install wine  ?08:57
jasoon2008-05-09 20:14:37 status installed amarok 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu108:57
jasoonbleh that sucks :(?08:58
JackWinterLilSarge: i did this from Adept, and i've added the winehq deb depos08:58
JackWinterjasoon: look further on, then they are removed..?08:58
LilSargeJackWinter: O ok08:58
jasoonI see08:59
jasoonWhy the heck did it do that?08:59
sacha_JackWinter: just reinstall them?08:59
JackWinterLilSarge: it was just a "fetch updates" "full update" "apply changes"08:59
LilSargeKonversation is a very nice program! I like how customizable it is. By far the best i'v seen08:59
jasoonbleh I'm getting sleepy08:59
jasoonbut I see it removed a lot of stuff09:00
jasoonat the end its a lot of remove the old stuff, replace with new stuff09:00
LilSargeJackWinter: Got you! Mine came installed and up to date :D09:00
jasoonbut there's a big chunk with remove this/that09:00
sacha_LilSarge: yeah but its looked like this for about 4 years09:01
JackWintersacha_: i did and will when i have figured out what more went missing.  just trying to find out what went wrong and if this is a bug to be reported...09:01
sacha_LilSarge: i want konversation 409:01
sacha_JackWinter: k09:01
LilSargeJackWinter: There is a Version 4?09:01
jasoongood idea Jack09:02
JackWinterLilSarge: i don't know ;)09:02
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sacha_LilSarge: well of course there has to be a qt4 port for KDE409:02
sacha_this version is ancient09:02
jasoonLilSarge: yeah, it's a cool app isnt it :)09:02
LilSargeyes i love it09:02
jasoonI like how everyone's name is colored09:03
LilSargelike i said the free stuff is always the better stuff :P09:03
jasoonmakes it easier to read09:03
JackWinteri have to agree with everyone.   Konversation is great.    Konqueror is kickbehind too..09:03
jasoonLittle thing I never considered in Windows09:03
jasoonkonqueror I'm really impressed with09:03
LilSargei want Linux security in windows lol09:03
jasoonI can't believe how fast it is09:03
LilSargeneed a mix of both09:03
jasoonjust the whole package is great09:04
sacha_JackWinter: have you tried Opera 9.5? it uses Qt09:04
jasoondolphin great09:04
jasoonk3b great09:04
JackWinternot to mention Kontact great aswell...09:04
jasoonopenoffice, kontact, kopete09:04
jasoonsexeh09:04
LilSargeI like the fact its working cool on my laptop09:04
jasoonsame09:04
LilSargei like Pidgen better tho09:04
sacha_k3b is an awesome burning app09:04
jasoonthe power manager is cool too09:04
jasoondynamic magic :)09:05
* JoshOvki switches to XP on desktop in winter to help heat the room09:05
jasoonhahaha09:05
LilSargeperformance :p09:05
sacha_akregator <-- this is my favourite app for RSS feeds09:05
jasoonhaha09:05
JoshOvkimorning all09:05
LilSargeMORNING YO09:05
jasoon1AM09:05
jasoonhere09:05
LilSargeoops caps09:05
LilSarge1:0509:05
jasoonI'm being bad linux user :P09:05
jasoongoing to boot into root and start rm -r09:06
jasoonhhaha09:06
jasoonoh crap! at 3:00AM09:06
LilSargenow i got Win XP,Vista and Kubuntu 8.04 :D09:06
sacha_jasoon: rm -rf /09:06
JackWinter!Adept09:06
jasoonhahaha09:06
ubottuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:06
jasoonty!09:06
jasoonred name=admin or something?09:06
JackWinteris there a channel for adept ?09:06
sacha_no, colour isnt anything to do with anything09:06
jasoonyes09:06
jasoon#sexy package manager09:07
sacha_this channel jackwinter09:07
jasoonyou have a nice blue name09:07
sacha_jasoon: you are red on mine09:07
jasoonmagical09:07
jasoonhaha09:07
sacha_i made an irc client before and i coloured names using a csum of the persons name09:07
LilSargeYou can change colors09:07
LilSargemake ppl any color and urself09:08
LilSarge:D09:08
JackWintersacha_: so what is your take on my problem.  something i should report or just chalk it up to the phase of the moon..?09:08
sacha_so everyone had unique names and always had that colour09:08
jasoonI want to be white09:08
LilSargeppl talk to me its Green09:08
sacha_JackWinter: bugs.launchpad.net09:08
jasoon<          >09:08
jasoonheh09:08
jasoon<            > WHY WONT ANYONE REPLY TO ME09:08
flaccid!bugs09:08
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots09:08
LilSargeSettings>Konfigure Konversation>Colors09:08
JoshOvki!caps | jasoon09:09
ubottujasoon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.09:09
jasoonlet's see09:09
jasoonhaha09:09
jasoonis my name white?09:09
sacha_no09:09
jasoonI can't see anything on mine09:09
JoshOvki:) no still red here09:09
sacha_you cant change your colour. its whatever our client wants it to be09:10
jasoonI see09:10
JoshOvkijasoon: you can only change the colours on your client09:10
jasoonWell, I'm going to switch back because this is kind of unsettling09:10
* JoshOvki wounders why its so busy for a sunday morning09:10
LilSargejasoon: How old are you bro09:11
jasoonIn human years?09:11
jasoonOr vampire years?09:11
JoshOvkinoth09:11
JoshOvki*both09:11
jasoonhuman=Over 900000000009:11
jasoon!!!!!!!!!!!!!109:11
ubottuFactoid 1 not found09:12
jasoonvampire=1409:12
jasoonAh I love internet09:12
jasoonI'm actually 2609:12
jasoonOR AM I?!09:12
LilSargejasoon: Um human years lol09:12
LilSargejasoon: Lol09:12
jasoonI feel about 2609:12
jasoonI'm really younger than that09:12
jasoonbut not much :)09:13
LilSargejasoon: i say 1409:13
jasoonhahaha09:13
LilSargejasoon: j/k09:13
jasoonsilly on internet=14 indeed :)09:13
LilSargejasoon: ok how about in real life and not on net??09:13
jasoonWell now can you really trust what I am saying?09:13
LilSargeI cant lol09:13
jasoonsudo get age09:13
LilSargei can asume09:13
LilSargelol09:14
jasoonyes I'm just getting a nonsense number here09:14
LilSargeima try that just forfun of it09:14
JoshOvkigents can we move this over to #kubuntu-offtopic please09:14
surgyhello09:14
surgyI have used kubuntu lots in the past and i am fixing to build a pc for my car that is going to have below average specs, can someone please give me the minimum system requirements for fluxbuntu?09:14
jasoonheh09:14
jasoonlike...09:14
LilSarge450mhz09:14
LilSarge256mb ram09:15
jasoonmaybe not even that high09:15
jasoonbut doesn't it have gnome dependencies?09:15
LilSarge5gb hd lol09:15
jasooncould probably go verrrry low with a server install of flux packages09:15
jasoonmaybe 100-300 mhz09:15
LilSargewow09:15
jasoonand 256mb ram=cheap :P09:15
LilSargethem slooowww pcs09:15
flaccidsurgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#head-2659cd6ecdcc610d675550bceabb5cbfb76541b809:16
jasoon450 mhz would give excellent performance I bet on flux09:16
flaccid64MB/4GB/300MHz09:16
JoshOvkisurgy: you may want to ask here #fluxbuntu09:16
LilSargethat will most likely work my friend09:16
flaccidxubuntu/low-spec: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#head-1e8a8a2a2221583a5ce5a57a242f72b62346981509:16
jasoonI used bbleans on windows for a spell, very efficient09:16
jasoon~8mb average mem usage for just the shell09:17
jasoonmaybe used 150mb for services including firefox09:17
surgyLilSarge well im going to install it on a 733mhz comp with 128 mb ram what do you think I can expect?09:17
flaccidit will go ok...09:17
jasoongood performance unless you install a ton of stuff09:18
jasoonyou can tweak services to run just what you need (not much on a car comp I'm thinking)09:18
JoshOvkisurgy: it will run fine. ive had XP machines in work run on that untill recently09:18
flaccidsure. just keep in mind by default no network services run in terms of listening servers09:18
LilSargehow do u disable services?09:19
jasoonI used kate and a guide09:19
jasoonbut I think kubuntu has services function in CP09:19
jasoonerr09:19
jasoon"system settings"09:19
flaccidyeah 'system services'09:19
LilSargeok thx09:20
flaccidkde3 has it not 4 but09:20
surgyjasoon yeah basicly just sound usb and video is all i will be using09:20
jasoonkate is awesome09:20
digitalpsykoim getting ready to install kubuntu 8.04 HH on a 2.4c2d,3gigs gskill ddr2 800, 2 WD74gig raptors, 1 WD 1TB, Evga 8800gt 512...it'll run good right?09:20
jasoonthe html editing with terminal editing just godly...09:20
jasoonYeah, that'll be cool surgy :)09:20
flacciddigitalpsyko: sure09:20
jasoonshould run well09:20
LilSargeLearn something new everyday!09:20
jasoonI'd get some more memory09:21
jasoonIt's dirt cheap these days, you know?09:21
LilSargenot regular DDR and DDR3 lmao09:21
jasoonwould help with overall performance09:21
digitalpsykoi have another 1 gig stick of gskill09:21
jasoonheh09:21
jasoondd3=retarded09:21
digitalpsykoddr2 = sweet09:21
digitalpsykoddr2= cheap09:21
flaccidcheck mem useage and see how close you get t using within 200mb free/start to use vm09:21
jasoonwell ddr3 is just useless for its cost09:21
LilSargewhy is DDR2 cheapper than DDR?09:21
jasoonthey act likes its all better than ddr2, but the performance diff. is negligible09:22
jasoonthey=critics et cet.09:22
digitalpsykodunno guess more and more ompanies are making it...just my guess09:22
flaccidthe newer stuff ends up being the mass manufactured and thus cheaper09:22
LilSargeall of my pc's have DDR in them all but one with sdRam lmao09:22
jasoonsupply and demand lil sarge :)09:22
LilSargeyea thats what i figured:D09:22
flaccidthen when its not made anymore its expensive09:23
LilSargejust pisses me off and makes me want to upgrade but but in a month there will be newer and better all the time so i just end up more pissed lol09:23
digitalpsykodoe compiz come installed on 8.04?09:23
jasoonheh09:23
LilSargeyes09:23
jasoonwell09:23
flaccidi wouldn't be annoyed considering how cheap it is to build a performance pc box these days09:23
LilSargeor something saying compiz in it lol09:23
jasoonon Kubuntu you have to click a button09:23
flaccid!compiz-fusion | digitalpsyko09:23
ubottudigitalpsyko: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:23
jasoonbut I think on Ubuntu it is09:23
jasoonI just installed it a few hours ago09:24
LilSargedamn are these bots are ppl they respond hella fast09:24
jasoonSeems pretty toned down from what I remember09:24
digitalpsykojasoon09:24
LilSargei installed yesterday09:24
digitalpsykoi might need some help ina few minutes after i get done installing09:24
digitalpsykoinstalling compiz09:24
jasoonKubuntu?09:24
jasoonor on Ubuntu?09:25
flacciddigitalpsyko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-1447dbabe59744a63cad770f4d2143fb45cb4aad :)09:25
digitalpsykoyeah kubuntu 8.04 hh 3.5.909:25
LilSargeout of all ubuntu kubuntu and edubutu and w/e else they have...which is better?09:25
digitalpsykoty flaccid i will bookmark the links09:25
JoshOvkiLilSarge: they are all different not better09:25
flaccidLilSarge: better ?09:25
LilSargeand i wonna try mobile ubuntu someday09:25
flaccidmost use the same repositories09:25
jasoonI chose Kubuntu to kickstart my linux experience because kde seems nice09:26
LilSargeidk just fast and no memory taking lol09:26
jasoonIt's really just preference and ease of use09:26
LilSargeand is there any games able to play cuz im having problems finding any09:26
flaccid!games | LilSarge09:26
ubottuLilSarge: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:26
LilSargeo ok09:26
flaccidi recommend wolf: et09:27
jasoon60% of this stuff enduser would prob. install anyway, so why not have cd do it09:27
jasoondiff. distros just speed up the process09:27
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flaccidmost stuff is pretty easy to install in post-installation these days09:28
JoshOvkiive used all sorts of distros but ive stuck with kubuntu longest so far09:28
LilSargeditto09:28
keldon85Hi, I'm having serious troubles with the latest install cd/dvd's for various distro's (while my previous ones work fine)09:28
JoshOvkiover the past 10ish years, when i started on mandrake09:28
LilSargeum i have tried Delta Force Black Hawk Down and v1 plays or atleast loads menu and when i upgrade so i can play online with friends....it doesnt even load menus09:29
LilSargeanyone know why?09:29
JoshOvkikeldon85: whats happening / going wrong?09:29
keldon85It's so bad that I can't even install in text mode ... with kubuntu it seems to be getting stuck in debcomfig.c : main09:29
keldon85it maps the kernel to 0x8000- [something] and then does not progress any further09:30
keldon85if I press ctrl+c it outputs: "/build ***/debconf.c:135 (main): Cannot initialize debconfig template database09:30
keldon85I'm also getting similar behaviour from Mandriva; I can't even run testcd!09:31
keldon85What's confusing is that I've never had any such trouble in the past and I have no idea where to start09:31
JoshOvkisounds like a memory problem to me09:31
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JoshOvkikeldon85: have you tryed running memtest?09:32
jasoonor maybe discs are in unrepair?09:32
keldon85Hmm; well I'll run a thorough test, but do you have any suggestions providing that is not the problem (I am currently running the kubuntu 7 live cd, and all distros from 2007 work)09:32
keldon85Yes, maybe my dvd is burning faulty disks!09:33
LilSargeit took me 3 burns to get my linux to install09:33
sacha_powertop rules09:33
LilSargereburn a cd09:33
LilSargei used a dvdrw 3x then it finally worked09:33
sacha_i went from 800 wakeups/second to 300 wakeups/second09:33
sacha_and battery life increased by about an hour09:34
JackWinterok, think i have my system back.  the update lost me the following: amarok, digikam, hp printdrivers, kaffeine, kamera, kipi, kmplayer, kooka and wine...  crazy ;)09:34
JoshOvkikalorin: i didnt realise you where currently running a live cd. thats also possible that your having bad luck with the dvds09:34
jasoonah good Jack09:35
jasoonhope it works like new again09:36
JackWinterguess i'll be more reluctant to do a full update ;)09:36
jasoonkeldon-->whoa betide the many who've done everything as they should only to find they have a bad disc09:36
jasoonI've done a huge amount of Windows OEM installs09:36
LilSargeman i'v done over 500 XP and Vista Installs lol09:37
jasoonAnd one little scratch can screw the whole unattended process up09:37
jasoonor a faulty sector et cet.09:37
TeslaTonyI just installed a plugin for firefox (it's a .jar file). After installing the sun java 5 and 6 packages, it's stopped working. What packages am I likely to need to reinstall to get it working again?09:37
jasoonJust my 2 cents :P09:37
jasoonmaybe reinstall java09:38
jasoonactually scratch that09:38
jasoonits a plugin09:38
jasoonhm, what plugin?09:38
keldon85yes, plus I've hardly used my DVD burner - I only ever use them to burn linux distros ... well I'm going to try some more so thanks for the help09:38
keldon85bye09:38
jasoong/l09:38
LilSargenp09:39
TeslaTonyIt assists with video downloads09:39
jasoondo your other plugins work?09:40
jasoonhave you tried installing adblock or a theme or the like?09:40
TeslaTonyAll the others work fine (as far as I can tell...don't have many)09:41
TeslaTonyThe only mod to the browser is the plugin09:41
jasoonis it compatible with firefox 3 beta 5?09:41
TeslaTonyI'd assume so. It was working fine before09:41
jasoonheh, double check09:42
jasoonI think I know the plugin your talking about, but can't remember its name or I'd check myself09:42
JackWintershould youtube work in konqueror ?09:42
jasoonyes09:42
jasoonif you're updated, its cool09:42
jasoonA prompt will come up and install it for you :)09:42
jasoonif you go to a site with flash that is09:43
misc--hello, I want to install kubuntu 8.04 but the installer always crashes when scanning disks. Is there another method to install rather than using ubiquity?09:44
JackWinteri have flashplugin-nonfree installed...09:44
jasoonyes, I'm listening to a song right now via youtube in konqueror09:45
jasoonworks great09:45
blekoshi, anybody having problems with vmware? i have applied the patch09:45
jasoonwhat kind of problems?09:46
jasoonubiquity?09:46
misc--yes09:46
JackWinterhmm, i had the feeling it was working before.  just myspace that would give me probs in konq.  it works in firefox.  so my system is still wonky..;(09:46
jasoonmaybe just have to reload the page09:47
jasoonwhat is ubiquity?09:47
misc--it always crashes on the page where it's scanning for disks. Have tried kernel options like noapic/noapci/nolpic/noapm but still crashes09:47
misc--it's the installer for ubuntu.09:47
jasoonsec, let me read09:47
jasoonhm09:47
jasoon!info ubiquity09:47
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.7 (hardy), package size 2340 kB, installed size 8340 kB09:47
misc--that's the one09:48
jasoonyes I forgot that's what it was called09:48
misc--aside from the using the alternative CD, I guess there is no other way but to use ubiquity for the installer :/09:48
misc--=)09:48
jasoonindeed09:48
jasoonwhat kind of comp?09:48
JackWinterjasoon: do you have konqueror-plugin-gnash installed ?09:48
jasoonlet me see09:49
misc--intel x86 core 209:49
yao_ziyua1can anyone do me a favor? i want to know some values09:49
yao_ziyua1the Crystal kwin style09:49
yao_ziyua1on the Background tab,09:49
jasoonmisc-->laptop?09:49
jasoonjack-->no09:50
JackWinterjasoon: thanks.09:50
yao_ziyua1the default color HTML values on the right of Simple Outline and Simple Inline09:50
yao_ziyua1then switch to the Inactive tab, get the default color HTML values too09:50
jasoongnash is the opensource flash plugin if I recall?09:50
yao_ziyua1i need them09:50
jasoonsimple outline09:50
jasoonone sec09:51
misc--jasoon: nope, desktop09:51
jasoonj/c misc--09:51
JackWinterok, got that working, needed to rescan plugins.09:52
jasoonprob. is it is not seeing your hard disks yes?09:52
jasoondoes gpart even load?09:52
jasoonyao_ziyua1: where to find these?09:53
yao_ziyua1jasoon: K Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations09:53
JackWinteri have a kubuntu 8.04 system with a rme multiface.  i've managed to install the firmware, and can load it with hdsploader.  however i doesn't load at system start.  the following are the relevant dmesg lines: http://pastebin.ca/101385909:53
jasoonk I'm there09:53
jasoonsimple color outline html values09:53
yao_ziyua1jasoon: you have to have kubuntu 8.0409:53
jasoonyes09:53
yao_ziyua1jasoon: choose Crystal, then go to the Background tab09:54
JackWinterthere must be something wrong with the distribution because this works on other dists...09:54
jasoonI'm there09:54
yao_ziyua1in it you will see two smaller tabs: Active and Inactive09:54
jasoonright09:54
yao_ziyua1first, in the Active tab, there are 2 color boxes09:54
yao_ziyua1click them09:54
jasoonyou want the color values?09:54
yao_ziyua1yes09:54
jasoonI'm using the inverted option right now09:54
jasoonshould I switch to dull glass?09:54
jasoondoes it matter?09:54
yao_ziyua1wait09:55
yao_ziyua1no09:55
jasoonActive HTML: #C4C3C309:55
jasoonInactive: #C4C3C309:55
yao_ziyua1the dull glass thing is specific to QtCurve, which is a Style, not a Window Decoration09:55
jasoonI gotcha09:55
yao_ziyua1jasoon: what about the second box?09:55
yao_ziyua1jasoon: there are 2 color boxes for Active, 2 for Inactive09:56
misc--jasoon: sorry, well according to the log it can see the hard disks yes09:56
jasoonthe blur outline yao?09:56
yao_ziyua1jasoon: in the Active tab, you should see two color boxes09:57
yao_ziyua1one on the left09:57
yao_ziyua1one on the right09:57
jasoonsorry, blur outline Active/Inactive: #E6E6E609:57
jasoonthose are the only 2 activated09:57
misc--I tried running in debug mode tailing logs etc but there's nothing there of interest. I guess I'll have to download the alternative cd09:57
jasoonmake sure your cd isn't scratched09:58
jasoonmight not be booting up gparted properly09:58
yao_ziyua1jasoon: do this: in the Active tab, choose Simple Outline and Simple Inline, and give me the 2 color values09:58
jasoonAh09:58
jasoonI only have simple outline09:58
yao_ziyua1what about simple inline?09:59
jasoon+no outline, sunken, raised09:59
yao_ziyua1jasoon: look rightward09:59
jasoonI see09:59
jasoonblur image setting09:59
yao_ziyua1yes09:59
jasoonsimple inline09:59
jasoonk, sec09:59
yao_ziyua1yes10:00
yao_ziyua1i need both color values10:00
jasoon#E6E6E610:00
jasoonfor active/inactive10:00
jasoonthat's simple inline10:00
yao_ziyua1what about outline?10:00
jasoonI gave those, see above10:00
yao_ziyua1then you seem to have a different environment from mine10:01
yao_ziyua1anyway i'm downloading the iso to get these back10:01
yao_ziyua1thanks all the same10:01
jasoonyup, g/l10:02
jasoonI'm shleepy10:02
jasoonoff to dreamland with me10:02
jasoonG'night everyone10:02
LilSargelata10:02
daniftodihello10:03
LilSargehi10:03
daniftodii am a problem10:03
Dr_willis:)10:04
daniftodii am internet CDAM10:04
daniftodii can use internet, konqueror not open a page10:05
daniftodifirewall problem?10:05
Dr_willisI recall similer issues with KDE and the proxy settings in KDE.10:05
Dr_willisnon-kde apps may not be affected.10:05
daniftodino solution?10:06
daniftodiif use Firefox this problem not apear?10:07
daniftodi(sorry for my english)10:07
Dr_willistry firefox and see, I  have seen others have this issue. But never had the problem myself.10:08
daniftodiok, i am go to internet cafe for download Firefox10:09
daniftodithanks10:09
daniftodimp3 playback?10:10
daniftodinot codec :(10:10
daniftodilink?10:10
Dr_willis!mp310:11
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:11
daniftodithanks10:14
daniftodia php editor and pascal?10:17
daniftodiAdope Photoshop for linux?10:17
daniftodi??10:19
Dr_willisphp is just text. - as for pascal - thers dozens of languages out for linux. I imagine thers some pascal compilers out.10:19
Dr_willisI use gimp to edit images, or try wine and photoshop if you MUST use photoshop10:19
daniftodipascal in wine worK?10:20
Dr_willispascal is a language. not a program.10:20
Dr_willis!find pascal10:20
ubottuFound: gpc, gpc-2.1-3.4, gpc-4.1, libhdate-pascal10:20
Dr_willis!info gpc10:20
ubottugpc (source: gcc-defaults (1.62ubuntu3)): The GNU Pascal compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:2.1-4.1.2-12ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB10:20
daniftodii am use a school a windows program10:20
daniftodiview erors red10:21
daniftodierors colored in red10:21
daniftodidreamvears in linux work?10:21
daniftodidreamveawers *10:22
Dr_willislinux is not windows. If you want to run windows apps in linux, you must use WINE or one of the wine variants10:23
Dr_willis!wine10:23
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.10:23
Dr_willis!appdb10:23
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org10:23
[Lightning]use FreePascal :)10:25
[Lightning]it's much more compattible than GPC10:25
[Lightning]it even supports Delphi syntax with Lazarus IDE10:26
marnewie heisst das programm, für die akku-überwachung bei kde 3.5 ?10:26
jussi01!de | marne10:26
ubottumarne: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:26
marnedamn, im sorry, i thought to be in ubuntu-DE10:27
marneok, in english ;), can someone say me  the name of the programm, which is showing the akku in kde310:27
marneoh it means battery...10:28
lupinskymarne:klaptop10:29
marnethanks lupinsky10:29
lupinskymarne:6.0610:30
marnei cant find klaptop10:30
marnei have hardy10:30
lupinskysorry but i still have 6.0610:31
marneah okay =)10:32
Y-Townanyone know why "knotify" is launched everytime I load "konversation" on ubuntu?10:32
Y-Townany ideas?10:36
jussi01Y-Town: yeah, it provides those lovely little popup in the taskbar when you get hilighted10:36
Y-Townjussi01: So I guess its good to have  :o)10:37
jussi01Y-Town: yeps :)10:37
Y-Townthanx bud  :o)10:37
ganastasiouhello everyone10:38
jussi01!hi | ganastasiou10:39
ubottuganastasiou: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:39
ganastasioui have a dsl connection on my laptop with usb modem connected.I made it work the usb modem and i have some questions about how to Share this connection to a desktop via lan10:40
jussi01!ics10:40
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php10:40
ganastasiou!ics10:41
ganastasiouwhat is this?10:41
ganastasioui have USB modem not modem router...10:42
JoshOvkiganastasiou: !ics is a command for the bot to give information about internet connection sharing10:42
ganastasiouok but the infos gave me are for routers not for usb modems10:42
Lardarseganastasiou: i ahev a usb modem as well... ubuntu sees it as a secodn network cad (eth1), yours may be the same10:42
Lardarsesecond network card*10:43
ganastasioui have a usb modem...not a moder router connected with usb10:43
JoshOvkiganastasiou: did you look at the link?10:43
ganastasiouthats sth else10:43
ganastasiouyes but only for network interfaces says10:44
Lardarseganastasiou: how does ubunu see your modem?10:44
Lardarseubuntu*10:44
ganastasioui have no idea if that helps u i do to connect pon "provider name"10:46
JoshOvkiganastasiou: if you read the content of the links given by ubottu (and jussi01) it will give you the information you need10:47
ganastasiouif i didnt make a mistake where is it talking about usb modem?what kind of interface is it?10:49
JoshOvkithe usb modem will show up as a network device. if you run  ifconfig  you will probly see   lo  ath0  and ppoa0   or something like that10:50
JoshOvkirun    ifconfig    in terminal10:50
ganastasioucomming back in 10 minutes to say my news10:51
ganastasiouthnx for your help ;)10:51
ganastasiou_back10:57
ganastasiou_ifconfig show ppp010:57
ganastasiou_can someone read with me the guide to make it work so i dont have a problem please?10:58
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JoshOvkiganastasiou_: its step by step, you cant really go wrong11:03
ganastasiou_im trying with firestarter first and then go by your way11:04
Dr_willisThis is a Dialup USB Modem eh?11:05
cosimociao a tutti11:06
ganastasiou_yeah11:06
ganastasiou_dr willis11:07
Dr_williswell step 1 would be getting it seen as a dial up modem. and dialing. :)11:08
Dr_willisthen actually dialing the isp. I guess11:08
Dr_willisIve not used a dialup modem in ages11:08
Dr_willis!dialup11:08
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up11:08
ganastasiou_i have made it work...now im talking to u im through this11:09
ganastasiou_yes but i had a problem with my router so till i buy a new one i should try this11:09
ganastasiou_and why not learn it also11:09
Dr_willissince you are on dialup, we have to talk S  l  o   w  l   y . :)11:09
ganastasiou_dialup modem DSL connection11:09
bleckhow can I get the current kernel config so I can compile my own using a template?11:10
Dr_willisHmm.. DSL was not the same as dialup last i looked.11:10
Dr_willisDSL used the same phone lines. but you dident actually Dial.11:10
Dr_willis!kernel11:11
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages11:11
LimCoreI do not have the monitor section in kde (kcontorl) how to get it (ubuntu)11:12
bleckaah yes, apt-get source linux-image-....11:13
bleckthanks11:13
digitalpsyko!nvidia11:15
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:15
daniftodiwhat install firefox?11:18
ganastasiou_I MADE IT WITH FIRESTARTER ITS THE BEST OPTION FOR THIS11:18
ganastasiou_THNX ALL SORRY FOR MY CAPS11:18
daniftodiwhat install a aplication?11:19
xbboyrewindxDaniftodi what are you on about?11:20
emilsedghdaniftodi: you want to install firefox? Menu->System->Adept Manager11:20
daniftodithanks11:20
giloapt-get install firefox11:20
AyabaraI managed to remove the top menu (file, settings..) in digikam. How do I put it back?11:21
giloon the console11:21
daniftodiinternet dial-up :( (apt-get install firefox )11:21
digitalpsykoi need to install drivers for an 8800gt 51211:21
giloit works anyway11:21
digitalpsykoon 8.04 hh11:21
gilojust take a little more time11:22
daniftodiin romanian ubuntu irc??11:22
giloum dois tres quatro11:22
xbboyrewindxYou know you can actually find your solutions online by googling11:22
digitalpsykoive looked friend11:23
digitalpsykolink me and i'll read till my eyes bleed11:23
digitalpsyko:)11:23
jussi01!envy11:23
ubottuenvyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.11:23
jussi01digitalpsyko: read UNSUPPORTED11:23
gilodont be a pain in the arsse xbboyrewindx11:23
xbboyrewindxgoogle like How to install drivers for an 8800gt 512 on kubuntu 8.04 or something like that11:24
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daniftodii am firefox, what install? (sory for my english)11:28
Dr_willis!info firefox11:28
ubottufirefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 63 kB, installed size 120 kB11:28
JoshOvki!ro11:29
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro11:29
AntonioMongaapt-get install firefox11:29
XanatosRjust curious, what does the livecd use as storage while its in use?11:30
daniftodiif i am firefox downloaded, i need to install only11:30
AntonioMongaapt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro11:30
jussi01XanatosR: a ram disk iirc11:30
AntonioMongado this in the console11:30
AntonioMongaa then11:30
AntonioMongaupdate-menus11:30
AntonioMongai also have a problem11:31
AntonioMongai managed to fuck my USB devices11:31
AntonioMongai cant mount them anymore11:31
XanatosRthanks jussi0111:32
jussi01!ohmy | AntonioMonga11:32
ubottuAntonioMonga: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:32
daniftodiunable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg) are you root?11:33
AntonioMongado this11:34
daniftodiin console, apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro11:34
AntonioMongasu -+11:34
AntonioMongasu -11:34
jussi01daniftodi: add sudo in front of the command11:34
AntonioMongasudo is stupid11:34
AntonioMongajust do11:34
jussi01AntonioMonga: please dont recomend that11:34
AntonioMongasu -11:34
AntonioMongafirst11:34
jussi01If you must have a root console, use sudo -i11:34
AntonioMongasorry jussi0111:35
Dr_willishttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/11:35
jussi01daniftodi: so do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro11:35
daniftodi:(, in romanian: nu pot gasi pachetul mozilla-firefox-local-ro-ro11:36
jussi01daniftodi: ok, do: sudo apt-get install firefox11:37
jussi01(we can worry about the language later)11:37
daniftodiPachetul firefox nu are nici un canditat la instalare11:38
jussi01daniftodi: hrm, do you have all the repos enabled (kmenu-system-adept-adept menu - manage repositories)11:39
AntonioMongajussi0111:39
AntonioMongacan you help me11:39
jussi01AntonioMonga: whats the issue?11:39
AntonioMongawhit the usb stuff11:40
AntonioMongai was trying to plug in my Aivx11:40
AntonioMongawhich is a tv box11:40
AntonioMongaan hard-disk11:40
AntonioMongain the core11:40
jussi01!enter | AntonioMonga11:40
ubottuAntonioMonga: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:40
AntonioMongaok11:41
AntonioMonga jussi0111:42
AntonioMonganow i cant mount the usb stick11:43
daniftodiMozilla Firefox English language/region package - instaled (in Adept Manager)11:43
daniftodirun?11:43
AntonioMongadaniftodi you can run now11:43
daniftodiwhat?11:44
AntonioMongarun11:44
AntonioMongaare you sure it's installed ?11:45
daniftodimozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb11:46
daniftodistatus: installed11:46
AntonioMongathen it should run11:46
daniftodihow start?11:46
AntonioMongathen it should run11:46
AntonioMongaaplications -> internet ->11:47
jussi01daniftodi: kmenu- internet - firefox ?11:47
AntonioMongayes11:47
daniftodino firefox in kmenu-internet-11:47
AntonioMongayou have a console open ?11:48
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daniftodiyes11:48
AntonioMongawrite in the console        update-menus11:50
daniftodii can open a webpage witch konqueror?11:50
AntonioMongayes11:50
AntonioMongait's stupid11:51
AntonioMongabut yes11:51
AntonioMongai mean konqueror11:51
AntonioMongai dont like konqueror11:51
daniftodiAn error occurred while loading http://www.orange.md/:11:51
ganastasiou_firefox ftw11:51
daniftodiCould not connect to host http://www.orange.md/.11:51
daniftodibash: update-menus: command not found11:52
AntonioMongawow11:52
AntonioMongai dont understand, i'm a newbie anyway11:52
daniftodimessenger and irc work, konqeror dot cand open webpage11:52
AntonioMongai probably shoudn't even be here giving advice11:53
AntonioMongadaniftodi11:53
AntonioMongatry to open11:53
AntonioMongawww.google.com11:53
scarygaryAnyone else having problems with kdm-kde4 since the 4.0.4 upgrade?11:54
jussi01scarygary: suggest you try in #kubuntu-kde411:54
PhilRodah, that sounds reasonable11:54
daniftodiAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/:11:54
daniftodiCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/.11:54
PhilRodoops, wrong channel11:55
scarygaryjussi: Great idea. =)11:55
daniftodionly icon is loaded11:55
AntonioMongahaha PhilRod you shit your pants11:55
daniftodionly google icon is loaded11:56
JoshOvki!language | AntonioMonga11:56
ubottuAntonioMonga: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:56
AntonioMongajust kiding11:57
AntonioMongarelax11:58
daniftodihelp me11:59
PhilRoddoes khotkeys work in gutsy for anyone else?12:01
xbboyrewindxBlah firefox is no good on ubuntu <_<;12:04
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daniftodiapt-get install opera work?12:05
digitalpsykodecent torrent client for kubuntu?12:11
AntonioMongafirefox is the best on ubuntu12:11
AntonioMongaazureus12:11
digitalpsykoazureus12:11
digitalpsykook12:11
digitalpsykothanks12:11
digitalpsykoim must say this new 8.04 is really nice12:12
digitalpsyko:)12:12
xbboyrewindxsorry but firefox is not the best on ubuntu lol12:12
daniftodifor install a aplication, drag&drop in adept manager ?12:12
xbboyrewindxit crashes a lot12:12
daniftodi!antoniomonga12:14
ubottuFactoid antoniomonga not found12:14
AntonioMonganever crashed whit me12:16
AntonioMongamaybe your not using 8.0412:17
xbboyrewindxUhm dude i am using 8.0412:17
eagle__hi all12:17
xbboyrewindxIt crashes with flash12:17
xbboyrewindxespecially on myspace profiles that haves a lot of flash videos on them12:18
AntonioMongaso12:20
AntonioMongawhat's better ?12:20
JoshOvki!better12:20
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:20
AntonioMongaeat my shorts bot12:21
ere4si!bot12:21
ubottuI am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)12:21
xbboyrewindxHmm i say opera but then again what the bot said lol12:21
daniftodi!opera12:22
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:22
AntonioMongaok12:24
AntonioMongait crashed now on a flash lolol12:24
|Dreams|whats the package for the make install etc12:24
xbboyrewindxrofl told you man12:24
xbboyrewindxa lot of people been having that problem on ubuntu with firefox using flash12:25
AntonioMongagona try something else12:25
AntonioMongathat's maybe ubuntu problem12:26
JoshOvkilooks like a flash problem to me12:26
xbboyrewindxhmm really?12:26
AntonioMonganot12:26
xbboyrewindxcuz i know on windows it's no problem12:26
AntonioMongaif it works on windows12:26
AntonioMongait should work here12:26
JoshOvkinot if your flash installed went screwed12:27
JoshOvkiAntonioMonga: just because things work on windows doesnt mean they work everywhere ;)12:27
AntonioMongaok12:27
xbboyrewindxwhat you mean my flash installed went screwed?12:27
xbboyrewindxit's fine12:28
xbboyrewindxit's just a firefox thing12:28
AntonioMongai just assume that windows is so basic12:28
AntonioMongathat if something works there should work anywhere12:28
AntonioMongaso basic or so stupid complex12:28
xbboyrewindxbut then agian put in mind that ubuntu is NOT windows lol12:28
JoshOvkihave you installed flashplugin-nonfree   ?12:29
xbboyrewindxuhm yes man12:29
xbboyrewindxof course i have lol12:29
xbboyrewindxLike i said it's a firefox thing12:29
xbboyrewindxIt has to do with firefox and ubuntu12:29
xbboyrewindxand probably the way firefox handles the flash plugin on ubuntu12:30
xbboyrewindxcuz on that opera beta version it works fine12:30
daniftodidownload firefox with apt-get install firefox :D12:30
JoshOvkixbboyrewindx: what version of FF are you using?12:30
AntonioMongaopera ?12:30
xbboyrewindxthe one that comes on 8.0412:30
xsachaadobe doesnt like us antonio :P12:31
xbboyrewindxFirefox 3 Beta 5 or something?12:31
xbboyrewindxtry it out yourself lol try flash on firefox12:31
JoshOvkixbboyrewindx: when you went to the site did it get you to install the package12:31
xbboyrewindxplay around youtube and watch firefox crash12:31
JoshOvkii have and it works perfectly fine12:31
xbboyrewindxno it doesn't12:31
JoshOvkiumm... yes it does12:31
xbboyrewindxcuz i already have flashplugin-nonfree12:31
Dr_willisi cant recall any flash issues either12:32
JoshOvkiyou just told me to try it out, and i already have tryed it out on my system and it works perfectly fine12:32
AntonioMongawhere's opera12:32
AntonioMonga?12:32
Dr_willis!opera12:32
ubottuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:32
xbboyrewindxwell that's weird12:32
xbboyrewindxbecause i know a heck of a lot of people experiencing the same problem12:32
xsachayeah opera uses Qt, runs perfect on amd64 and flash works fine on 32-bit and 64-bit version12:33
Dr_willisand its very hard to track down.12:33
xsachacant wait for their Qt4 version :)12:33
xbboyrewindxDo you guys even go to flash sites a lot on firefox?12:34
xbboyrewindxgo to a flash site on firefox...and just surf around then on the same tab try going to another webiste12:35
xbboyrewindxsee if it crashes on you12:35
JoshOvkixbboyrewindx: youtube and bbc iplasyer12:36
JoshOvki*bbc iplayer12:36
xbboyrewindxwhat about them?12:37
JoshOvkiboth heavy flash sites that i use with FF12:37
xbboyrewindxi see you might have one powerful computer then12:37
mike__hi Leute ^12:37
mike__ist wer da ?12:38
JoshOvkiits not that powerfull at all12:38
mike__hi12:38
mike__hmmm sorry, i new  -.-12:39
JoshOvki!hi | mike__12:39
ubottumike__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:39
xbboyrewindxWell idk about you but to a lot of people this is happening12:39
edgar_hola alguien sabe q paso con irc kubuntu-es12:40
mike__can someone here german ?12:40
sorriso2095salve12:40
sorriso2095italiy??'12:40
JoshOvki!german12:40
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:40
mike__THX ^12:41
xbboyrewindxand josh the other guy wants to know what happened to the spanish channel of irc12:41
mike__halli hallo an alle ^12:41
xbboyrewindxof kubuntu12:41
xbboyrewindxwell josh maybe one day you'll experience firefox crash on you...but who knows12:42
mike__ist hier jemand der deutsch kann ? oder bin ich immer noch im im falschen CH ?12:42
JoshOvkiits still there just quiet12:42
JoshOvkixbboyrewindx: maby i will, but its very unlikaly as its currently working, because if it does i have my debian desktop to fall backon12:43
xbboyrewindxWell guess it's all depends on your specs and your settings who knows12:43
mike__is someone here who knews to get woring a Pinnacle E330 USB tuner ?12:43
xbboyrewindxNot every person experiences the same things12:44
xbboyrewindxbut i know a lot of people that are experiencing it12:44
mike__hi to all ^ ^12:45
JoshOvkixbboyrewindx: i know not every one experiences the same thing, and i also know that some people have had problems with flash. but you where expecting everyone to be having the problem and not just some12:45
crazy_bushow to I get a software install link that works on normal ubuntu to open in adept e.g. this one http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php12:46
JackWinter!es | edgar_12:46
ubottuedgar_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.12:46
mike__wer da ?12:46
JackWinter!gr | mike__12:47
ubottumike__: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes12:47
xbboyrewindxwell i thought everyone would be experiencing the same problem12:47
JackWinter!de | mike__12:47
ubottumike__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:47
mike__sorry to all here !!!12:48
crazy_busnm found out how12:49
vishahI'm unable to upgrade to KDE 4.0.4 by following the instructions in kubuntu.org. "File Not Found" <-- Is this a joke?..heh12:52
daniftodinero for linux?12:53
JackWinterdaniftodi: k3b12:53
daniftodibrasero ??12:54
JackWinterdaniftodi: you are using kde no ?  brasero is normally used under gnome, and k3b under kde.  check it out, good program and integrated into your desktop...12:56
JackWinter!k3b | daniftodi12:56
ubottudaniftodi: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:56
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crazy_busThe default font for me in OOo in Liberation Serif.  yet ttf-liberation isn't installed.  Is this normal as ttf-liberation is in multiverse13:42
crazy_busah found the answer nm13:46
BabyTux#kubuntu-de13:47
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misc--hello, I want to replace kde on my kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4, is that possible? I did download kde 4 via apt but kde 3 is also installed. It looks like the kde 4 programs have been installed but if I right click on the task bar and select help -> about kde, it shows 3.5.9 still. Any ideas how to actually get it to load v4?13:58
sorriso2095salve13:59
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bibsthacannot for the life of me get the java applet working  :(14:07
bibsthawhat do i have to do to get applets working?14:09
nAgoHaKwhete can I download latest kubuntu kde4 ?14:32
sivaji!kde14:32
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.14:32
nAgoHaK!kubuntu14:33
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE14:33
flaccidmisc--: you select KDM 4 from the login screen dropdown before login14:39
misc--flaccid: oh right ok thanks, must have missed that14:41
misc--will try now.14:41
misc--flaccid: that's better.. geez, big difference14:45
ForsakenSoulhi can someone tell me what I can open a .chm file with14:51
ForsakenSoul?14:51
IppatsuManForsakenSoul: kchmviewer14:52
sivajiForsakenSoul .chm is a compiled webpage you need to install firefox addon for reading that14:52
emilsedghForsakenSoul: kchmviewer in kde3 or Okular in kde414:52
ForsakenSoulthanks14:53
Dr_willisor a chm viewer app.14:53
Jucato(if our okular is compiled with chm support)14:53
Jucatothat's what kchmviewer and okular are :)14:53
ForsakenSoulhey Dr_willis long time no see :D14:53
Dr_willisHowdy14:53
IppatsuManI don't think that Okular in KDE 4.0.3 in Kubuntu 8.04 already supports chm14:53
Dr_willisit is? Heck i could of talked to you yesterday for all i can rember these days.14:53
ForsakenSoulDr_willis well it was about 2 weeks aho :D14:54
ForsakenSoulago*14:54
JucatoIppatsuMan: if you install okular-extra-backends-kde4, it will have chm support14:55
IppatsuManJucato: I didn't knew that, thanks for the tip :)14:56
BluesKajHowdy all15:06
kristian_hi BluesKaj15:07
BluesKajHappy Mother's Day to any mothers here :)15:10
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cellociau15:13
yakuziare there people here with good knowledge of fstab? because i've a problem with auto mounting a fat32 partition on boot so i can use it as data partition, sometimes it's not mounted after boot, sometimes it is, but i don't have write rights, and sometimes it dismounts without i did something :s15:19
yakuzifstab look in kwrite:15:19
yakuzi# /etc/fstab: static file system information.15:19
yakuzi#15:19
yakuzi# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>15:19
yakuziproc /proc proc defaults 0 015:19
yakuzi# /dev/sda815:19
yakuziUUID=23dd2bcb-f81b-43c9-9fcc-ced7049a1112 / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 115:19
yakuzi# /dev/sda715:19
yakuziUUID=c48c2cd6-6526-4902-afdd-d0b7fe6c6408 /boot ext2 nouser,relatime,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 215:19
yakuzi# /dev/sda615:19
yakuziUUID=e2fea362-e42a-4962-8487-574b34c53531 none swap sw 0 015:19
yakuzi/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 015:19
yakuzi/dev/sda5 /media/data auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 015:19
daniftodiUnable to save bookmarks in /home/daniftodi/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.15:20
Dr_willisdaniftodi,  you ran the file manager as root. and now root owns the bookmark file15:20
crazy_busI downloaded the ubuntu alt cd to try and use as a software source to install ubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu.  However it still wants to download 239mb's.  How do I stop this?15:20
Dr_willisusing  root/sudo access delete that file.15:21
Jucatocrazy_bus: disable the online repositories and enable the cdrom repo15:21
Dr_williscrazy_bus,  theres a lot ofupdates to the packages on the cd. many are security  updates  You really MIGHT want to let it download them.15:21
crazy_busJucato: I tried that15:21
crazy_busDr_willis: this is on a computer that is offline for the moment15:22
Jucatoonce you've done that, it will say that it will "download" packages.. but in reality it will download it from the cd :)15:22
Dr_willisrember after altering the sources.list - you must rerun apt-get update.. right? even if its on the cd..15:22
Jucatouhuh15:22
crazy_busJucato: so it lies about how much it needs to download.  I see.  Testing now15:24
Jucatohm?15:24
Jucato239mb.. dunno if that's a lie..15:24
Dr_willisits downloading from the 'cd' :)15:24
Jucatoit's definitely not downloading the size of a full CD installer15:25
crazy_busin my mind copying from a cd is not downloading.  Internet is15:25
Dr_willisI love it when it says 'will download 500mb, after install 1 addationam mb of space will be used' - Why not just download that 1 mb then! :)15:25
Jucatocrazy_bus: in your mind. for APT. it's "downloading" from a repository source... which just happens to be offline on your CD15:25
crazy_busI wish it would tell you how much you have to download off the internet so I can schedule on my slow internet15:25
Jucatoit does. doesn't it?15:26
crazy_busJucato: yes, in a way.  But if that computer was on the internet I wouldn't know how much would be off the cd and how much as a download15:26
Lardarsewhat's the prefered way to stop X without restarting it straight away?15:27
Jucatocrazy_bus: um.. I thought the online repos were already disabled?15:27
JucatoLardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop15:27
Jucato(if you're using kdm... replace with gdm or xdm as necessary)15:28
Lardarseand start to restart it?15:28
Lardarseok15:28
Lardarsethanks15:28
JucatoLardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start15:28
Jucatoto simply restart, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart15:28
B|nTaRawhere can i get documention about Atheros wifi card ?15:29
crazy_busJucato: they are, but hypothetically speaking about another computer15:30
Jucatocrazy_bus: then disable it there too? just to be sure15:30
TheGentlemanwhy can't I play a music CD on Kubuntu Hardy ?  I mean a normal commercial music CD, not mp3.15:31
B|nTaRaand also where can i get documention about nvidia geforce 7000m , seem like kubuntu aint support it \15:31
crazy_busI know you can share updates over a network.  But can you share them over a usb stick?  Or do you have to manually download each file off packages.ubuntu.....15:31
Dr_williscrazy_bus,  thers several ways you can share them on a local network15:31
Dr_willisyou can install an apt-cache sort of service on one box.15:31
Dr_willisand point the others to it.  is one way to do it.15:32
JoshOvkiB|nTaRa: most atheros wifi cards are supported by madwifi15:32
JoshOvki!madwifi | B|nTaRa15:32
crazy_busDr_willis: I knew about that.  What I was asking was without a network15:32
ubottuB|nTaRa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:32
Dr_willisThers the apt-cd tools.15:32
Dr_willisbut i have never used those.  Beng with out a network in this day and age is like.. being without a.. err....   Hmm....15:33
yakuziproblem seems to be solved...(i added a folder  /media/data, maybe that did the trick) i hope it is solved..Even after next reboot15:33
Dr_willisI cant think of a good example horriable enough  :)15:33
Lardarseok... since that didn't do what i expected it to: is there any reason why gutsy would be able to automatically detect (and use) a video mode that hardy hasn't automatically detected?15:33
Dr_willishardy is using a minimal-auto-confioguring X  feature/method.  that often gets things wrong.15:34
LardarseDr_willis: hmm?15:34
Dr_willisgutsy detects stuff and makes a xorg.conf   hardy has a newer X that dont work the same way15:34
Dr_williscompare the xorg.conf file from gutsy, with one from hardy. The one in hardy is  missing a great many   entries.15:35
Lardarsethat might explain why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't do what i hoped it would15:35
ubuntu_Salut15:35
crazy_busso I can create a apt cd with dpkg-scanpackages and it will put every package I have installed into a file?15:35
Dr_willisLardarse,  You got it. that command dont really do much in hardy any more.15:35
ubuntu_anyone could help me15:35
Lardarse!ask | ubuntu_15:35
ubottuubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)15:35
ubuntu_ok, so amarok can't play mp315:36
Dr_willismine can.15:36
Dr_willis:)15:36
Lardarseubuntu_: i asked that question in here about 8 hours ago...15:36
ubuntu_i must download something but i don't know where (i'm a neewbie, i have installed kubuntu for a few minutes)15:36
Lardarselet me see if i can find the answer15:36
Dr_willisinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras package ?15:36
ubuntu_(i also realize that my keyboard dont do any point or others things -_-)15:37
LardarseDr_willis: yes, but there was a bot response, which is just outside of 1500 lines of scrollback15:37
Lardarse!restricted15:38
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:38
Lardarsegood guess :-)15:38
ubuntu_ok thanks15:38
ubuntu_i'm going to read that15:38
crazy_busthanks for everyones answers.  I have to go and I need to restart my login for a program I'm installing15:39
LardarseDr_willis: so how do i look into enabling the screen resolutions that i had ~ 6 hours ago?15:39
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ugahi there, is anybody having issues with usbfs? somehow I get errors like "[ 1293.741734] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" or  [  495.016077] scsi 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense not available.15:42
ugait used to work fine on this box in the past, so I wonder what happenned, either hal changes or kernel changes...15:42
ugasomething is very broken here15:42
ubuntu_where can i see quiclky which version of ubuntu i have ,15:42
TheGentlemanIf I insert a music CD in my PC running Kubuntu Hardy, the usual pop-up comes out offering several choices. I choose "Play with Amarock"  but nothing happens!!15:44
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Lardarseubuntu_: usually with uname, but i forget which option you need15:45
ugaLardarse: that will show the kernel build15:45
uga(uname -a)15:45
ugabut not the distribution he installed15:45
TheGentlemanso I went to see the properties from the  Audio CD icon on the desktop, and what i read really puzzles me:15:45
Lardarseuga: then i donm't know.. perhaps look for specific files?15:46
TheGentlemanThe "general" tab reports it mounted on /media  while Extended information reports it as /dev/scd015:47
ugaubuntu_: cat /etc/lsb-release15:47
ugaLardarse: ^^15:47
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Lardarseuga: noted15:48
techbwhi all15:48
Ghittsumgood morning15:48
TheGentlemanHow the hell do I play an AudioCD using Kubuntu Hardy?15:49
ugaarf, the issue is as old as shit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10204415:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 102044 in linux-source-2.6.20 "PS3: Kernel floods log and console with errors" [Medium,Confirmed]15:49
techbwwhen I want to change network settings, I go to system settings, network, and click administrate, but system does not bring up the administrative password box...what could be the cause for this?15:51
techbwat the moment I have to edit the network config files manually for the settings to be saved for bootup, but would like the GUI administration working.15:51
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biopodhi everyone15:54
biopodanyone from Denmark?15:54
techbwhi biopod15:54
TheGentlemanWhat do I need to play an AudioCD using Kubuntu hardy?  I'm not able to play it, while mp3 files are played as expected15:54
Lardarse!dk | biopod15:55
ubottubiopod: For at få support til Ubuntu på Dansk bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.15:55
LardarseTheGentleman: what's the error?15:55
siofwolvesTheGentleman, have you tried Amorak?15:55
techbwif you have an audio cd, make sure you have your audio cable pluged into you cd rom...that cable must also be pluged into your motherboard, or your sound card if you have pci sound card15:55
TheGentlemanof course i did... Amarok plays any mp3 or ogg file i have15:56
biopodactaully, i dont speak danish, just wanted to see if there was someone from Denmark to ask him something, but I'll go as there.15:56
TheGentlemanmy problem is that it seems that i can't mount an Audio CD15:56
Lardarsebiopod: i won't ask whast the last sentence (about english) was, then :-)15:57
TimSCan K3B split files over multiple disks? If I ask it to burn my music collection to DVDs, will it know to put the first 4.1 gig on one disk, then the next 4.1gig on a second disk?15:58
crazy_busI need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?15:59
TheGentlemanHow do I mount an Audio CD to play it ?16:02
techbwTheGentleman: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4588675 check this site out16:02
techbwmight help16:02
TheGentlemanthanks techbw16:03
jmichaelxis anyone else just experiencing random temporary freezes in hardy?16:03
sivajijmichaelx no16:04
techbwTheGentleman: no problem.16:06
daniftodi!ro16:07
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro16:07
theunixgeekIf I install the kde4 package in Ubuntu, will I get KDE 4.0.4 (the latest version)?16:08
Jucatotheunixgeek: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php16:09
theunixgeekJucato: thanks :)16:10
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theunixgeekthanks for the info :16:10
theunixgeek:)16:10
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daniftodi!ro16:17
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fideliohi. quick question for my printer.  Test page goes through.  But cannot print any doc16:31
JoshOvkifidelio: make sure that the program you are using is pointed to the printer and not to a pdf writer16:32
fideliojosh: I can see the preview and select the proper printer..but nothing happens16:33
JoshOvkifidelio: have you restarted since installing the printer16:33
fidelioyes16:34
JoshOvkifidelio: which program?16:34
lummnutzt hier jemand karamba mit liquid weather++?16:34
lummwie bekomm ich den °F in °C ?16:34
fideliojoh.: any text editor16:34
lummups wrong chan16:34
lumm:D16:34
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JoshOvkifidelio: which ones have you tried? and have you tryed a very basic file with like "test" written in it?16:37
fideliojosh. For example, office, gedit and yes...simple text tried.  Again, test page is perfect16:38
JoshOvkiso just one file isnt printing?16:40
JoshOvkifidelio: you can see if any errors happen when trying to print over commmand with      lp16:43
JoshOvkialso what printer is it?16:43
fideliojosh.  nothing get printed.16:43
fidelionot familiar with direct command..can you elaborate?16:43
fideliocanon PIXMA ip 6600d16:44
fideliocups find the printer and everythign seems to be setup correctly16:44
fideliojosh. I wonder where the docs I am tryingto print end  up.16:48
JoshOvkifidelio: very odd problem. i cant find any sort of relevent data about this problem16:48
JoshOvkiyeh i do to16:48
JoshOvkinot making duplicates in the folder the file is saved in does it?16:49
fidelioI serached the web extensively before joing this chat and i could not find anythign either16:49
JoshOvkifidelio: i found one thread that matches the problem but no one posted a solution16:50
sparr__how can i configure aptitude to function more like apt-get, in terms of which packages to add/remove?16:51
PhilRodfidelio: is /tmp full? I saw a similar problem when that happened on one system16:51
PhilRodfidelio: can you print using lpr on the command line? (lpr some_simple_text_file)16:53
JoshOvkisparr__: why not just use apt-get ?16:53
sivajiuse http://localhost:/631 for webased interface16:53
sivajisorry  http://localhost:63116:54
llutzsparr__: why would you like to castrate aptitude?16:54
sparr__llutz: because its trying to remove hundreds of packages16:54
sparr__JoshOvki: i want to try out aptitude for a while16:54
Simonftwhen trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found16:55
fideliophi: not sure how to see if /tmp is full16:56
fideliophil: will try with lpr16:57
llutzfidelio: "df -h /tmp"16:57
sparr__llutz: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install 14 packages and upgrade 104.  aptitude dist-upgrade wants to install 34, upgrade 112, and *uninstall* 221, and i really like some of those 22116:58
fideliotmp 61% used16:58
stuqmorning all16:59
Jucatosparr__: by default, aptitude will install (merely) recommended packages as if they were necessary. using -R will turn that off16:59
stuqis there some know difficulty with add a user in kubuntu hardy?16:59
llutzsparr__: first set "Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";" in ~/.aptitude/config16:59
stuqI'm using kuser.. and having all sorts of problems16:59
Jucatooh there :)16:59
sparr__fidelio: depending on the size of your /tmp you might be worried about 61%...  if its a 5GB tmp then a single dvd image to be burned could cause that.   next do "du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n"16:59
crazy_busI need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?16:59
Simonftwhen trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found16:59
stdinSimonft: you need http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc17:00
sparr__Jucato: -R does not affect the uninstall count.  it cuts out half the new installs, which i dont really care about.17:00
fideliophil: lpr works17:00
Simonftstdin: bash: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc: No such file or directory17:00
sparr__crazy_bus: there is a decent chance that your firefox profile is updated, and youll have to start over to use FF2 again17:00
sparr__afk hours17:01
stdinSimonft: it's a website, open it in a browser17:01
Jucatosparr__: oh I thought you were talking about installing (which was in your example). yeah aptitude tries to be "smart" in that way...17:01
Simonftstdin: i am an idiot, just relized that. :)17:01
crazy_bussparr__: I still have my profile.  I  just don't know which files to delete to reconstuct the menus17:02
fideliosparr. done it du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n...now what?17:03
llutzsparr__: http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude#comment-21017:03
Haemogoblinhey there17:03
Haemogoblinany of you dudes telll me how i installed a downloaded app in linux17:04
JoshOvkiHaemogoblin: depends what format the app is17:04
Haemogoblini've just downloaded zinf17:05
Haemogoblinfrom their website17:05
axelHaemogoblin: Which package version? Debs? RPMs? Source Code?17:06
basculeit is source, you would need to build it17:06
basculethere seems to be no debs or rpms there17:06
axelbascule: really? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5149417:07
BluesKajHaemogoblin, what's the app and file xtn ?17:07
Haemogoblinone second17:07
Haemogoblinsorry someone was phoned17:07
Haemogoblinlol17:07
Haemogoblinright17:08
Haemogoblinok17:08
Haemogoblinerm how do i determine what it is?17:08
basculedoes it finish tar.gz or .rpm17:08
axelHaemogoblin:  what's the character sequence after the last dot in the filename?17:09
Haemogoblingz17:09
Haemogoblinzinf-2.2.5.tar.gz17:09
basculeI guess you have you never compiled source code before17:10
axelHaemogoblin: Then the insallation rule of three should be a good idea.17:10
Haemogoblin??17:10
Haemogoblini've been using kubuntu for 3 days17:10
Haemogoblinjust learning17:10
Haemogoblinsorry :(17:10
basculedo you really *need* this articular app?17:11
JoshOvkiHaemogoblin: extract the documents like you would a .zip and read the INSTALL file17:11
Haemogoblini have17:11
basculethere are so many good players in kubuntu already17:11
axelHaemogoblin: That's OK. "So far no master fell from the skys."17:11
Haemogoblin:D17:11
Haemogoblinwell i heard zinf was a good player17:11
Haemogoblinlow on resources17:11
axelHaemogoblin: Did you already extract the archive?17:11
BluesKajHaemogoblin, in the terminal/konsole type, or copy and paste this,  tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz17:11
fideliosparr: what du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n does?17:11
Haemogoblinand the one that comes in kubuntu doesn't like some of my mp3's17:12
axelHaemogoblin: You mean Amarok?17:12
Haemogoblinyes17:12
PhilRodfidelio: ok - did you try the test page from localhost:631?17:12
axelHaemogoblin: Wait, I'm looking up a package name.17:13
Haemogoblinok17:13
PhilRod(fidelio: btw, hit tab to get my full nickname, then it'll highlight and I'll know you're talking to me)17:13
Haemogoblinthat command17:13
Haemogoblin tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz17:13
ubuntuhello. the live cd (which i am in right now) detects my video card as being 800x600, but it actually is 1024x768. how do I fix this? (is there an automated way to do this?)17:13
Haemogoblinwasn't found17:13
axelHaemogoblin: Now let's start.17:13
Haemogoblinokies17:14
Haemogoblinwoop!17:14
Haemogoblin:D17:14
axelHaemogoblin: at least I think that's the right package. As far as I know it is.17:14
damian__Hi:P17:14
axelHaemogoblin: start a console.17:14
Haemogoblindone17:14
Haemogoblin:D17:14
fidelioPhilRod: 631 test page works great17:15
axelHaemogoblin: then type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:15
axelHaemogoblin: It will install some programs like flash and as I think the support for MP3.17:16
PhilRodfidelio: ok, let's move up one step and try kprinter. Run "kprinter" from the run command dialog (Alt+F2)17:16
damian__Who LovE LinuX ????17:16
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PhilRoddamian__: certainly none of the people here, who are using their spare time to help other people with their linux problems17:17
bascule:)17:17
Haemogoblinok17:17
axelHaemogoblin: Did it work?17:18
Haemogoblini've got the restricted extra's installed17:18
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Haemogoblinwell17:18
Haemogoblini had the extra's installed already17:18
Haemogoblini can play mp3s17:18
Haemogoblinjust not all of them17:18
Haemogoblinthe stock player will skip some albums randomly17:18
Haemogoblinjust skipping each track17:19
axelHaemogoblin: What's the difference between the MP3s you can play and those you can't.17:19
Haemogoblini have no idea17:19
Haemogoblinthey are both mp3 format17:19
PhilRodfidelio: if you expand the options button there, you'll see a list of files to be printed, so add something simple there17:19
Haemogoblinthey worked in XP17:19
Haemogoblini was hoping using another player might solve the problem17:19
Haemogoblinis there such a thing as a codec bundle for linux?17:20
Haemogoblinto support mp2/3/4, xvid ect ect17:20
axelHaemogoblin: there are some packages that should fix that. Wait. I'll see wether I can figure out which.17:20
fidelioPhilRod: cannot open kprinter says "The location or file could not be found"17:22
axelHaemogoblin: Let's try "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg" on the command line.17:22
Haemogoblini'd REALLY be greatful if someone cud explain how i installed apps that i've downloaded..it's not exactly clear17:22
Haemogoblinlol17:22
fidelioPhilRod: i need to istalll kprinter17:23
PhilRodfidelio: that's weird. I thought it was installed as part of kdebase17:23
axelHaemogoblin: Did this package work?17:24
Haemogoblininstalling17:24
Haemogoblinerm17:24
PhilRodfidelio: just checking what package installs it17:24
HaemogoblinReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:24
* bascule suspects medibuntu as an answer17:25
axelHaemogoblin: strange.17:25
Haemogoblin:S17:25
Haemogoblinit is why i wanted to try another player17:25
Haemogoblini dont know how good the one that comes with linux is against others17:26
basculeamarok is superb IMO17:26
axelHaemogoblin: It is said that Amarok is one of the best music player.17:27
Haemogoblinook17:27
axelHaemogoblin: You got some problems with codecs, not with Amarok.17:27
JoshOvkixmms is a good small player17:27
Haemogoblinok17:27
basculetry medibuntu sources17:28
bascule!medibuntu17:28
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:28
PhilRodHaemogoblin: for the vast majority of apps, you'll want to install them using packages specially prepared for (k)ubuntu, which you can do using adept. Occasionally you'll need to install apps from outside the package repositories, and then all bets are off17:28
axelHaemogoblin: Do you speak German? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs#head-183b9d6088dd54ac5ce74ee1c92e28ddd2ac70a017:28
stuqanyone have advice on adding a newuser in hardy?  I'm using kuser and getting only partial results17:28
Haemogoblinerm nope sadly i dont17:28
Haemogoblinlol17:28
basculestuq: what is working17:28
PhilRodfidelio: looks like the package you need is kdeprint17:29
basculeand what isn't17:29
axelHaemogoblin: OK, then let's go through the packages.17:29
stuqbascule: I've added a user in kuser, matched groups to my own17:29
fidelioPhilRod: kprinter+file opens gedit.  I see the text but printer does not work17:29
libbenI just got myself a EEE pc 900, its not here right now. But i was wondering if i can install Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix) on it. and do i need to get myself a external reader for cds or can i install it from the linux version that comes wit it?17:29
Haemogoblinokies17:29
Haemogoblin:D17:29
stuqbascule: but on trying to log in, i'm getting complaints about kconfigstartup missing17:29
stuqand x will hang totally17:30
Haemogoblinhave to admit installing stuff without adept seems confusing17:30
stuqi'm rsync'17:30
fidelioPhilRod: correct -- I istalled kdeprint successfully17:30
Haemogoblini've not managed it yet17:30
stuqing my user dir to the new user17:30
stuqjust to catch anything i'm missing17:30
basculenot a good idea to copy it all17:30
PhilRodHaemogoblin: yes, you'll generally want to avoid it except in very special cases17:30
stuqbrand new install, so nothing extra there17:30
axelHaemogoblin: libxine1-bin, libxvidcore4, libxine1-plugins, ibquicktime117:30
PhilRodpackage management is your friend17:30
basculestuq: there are unique session id things that will cause conflicts acros users17:30
PhilRodfidelio: sorry, I didnt' quite understand - when does it open gedit?17:31
stuqbascule: hmm. ok17:31
stuqbascule: have you added a user on a hardy install yet?17:31
basculeare you just trying to change a user name? are you cloning an enviroment for a second user?17:31
Haemogoblinphilrod ?? i find them using adept yes?17:31
basculestuq: well I do things ols style a lot of the time17:31
basculeuseradd usermod and so on17:31
stuqbascule: my first need was just a new user, but when that didn't work i fell back to a cloning attempt17:32
basculejust what I know17:32
basculeok17:32
fidelioPhilRod: alt +f2, type kprinter , select file.  then gedit opens the text file17:32
PhilRodHaemogoblin: right - always try adept first.17:32
libbenanyone regarding my issue a bit up?17:32
stuqbascule: ols?  you mean cls?17:32
basculeold*17:32
stuqso, add user?17:32
basculewell not yet :)17:32
stuqi'm fine with command line, but i'm just more used to the freebsd way for this17:33
PhilRodfidelio: that's weird. Here it adds the file to the list of files in the bottom half of the dialog17:33
axelHaemogoblin: actually installing packages with the use of command line  is more efficient - at least in my opinion. And that's the key point: Opinions differ. ;)17:33
PhilRodaxel: ah, yes - I often prefer the command line too, but I think we *definitely* agree on the benefits of package management17:34
basculestuq: and the error was kconfigstartup?17:34
Xanatossigh wubi still wont work17:34
stuqwell, that was the most recent error i stopped with17:34
stuqkuser didn't want to make a shell at first17:35
basculeok17:35
stuqtook several attempts for it to accept /bin/bash17:35
stuqand no home dir was made17:35
basculeand copy skeleton was enabled17:35
stuqso i did that on cl17:35
stuqlooking..17:35
axelPhilRod: Isn't apt a package managenemt programm? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool17:35
rebeccaanyone else encountered complete system freezing with kubuntu 8.04 + firefox (2 or 3) + flash from restricted?17:36
basculestuq: I am looking at kuser now, on the first atb it has 2 tick boxes at the bottom17:36
PhilRodfidelio: just to check we're looking at the same thing, this is what I have here http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/stuff/kprinter.png17:36
basculeatb/tab17:36
stuqbascule: yes, copy skeleton enabled17:36
stuqit is by default17:36
stuqand i didn't change it17:36
basculeIt also has account disabled ticked for some reason17:36
stuqyes, noticed that, and enabled it17:36
Haemogoblinsoo how do i use the command line?17:37
basculeok17:37
PhilRodaxel: yes. I think one of us is confused. I'm just saying that package management, apt or anything else, is almost always better than installing from source or from random .debs from websites17:37
Haemogoblinto install those files17:37
Haemogoblin:S17:37
axelHaemogoblin: Did it work?17:37
axelPhilRod: fully ACK.17:37
basculestuq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto <-- try that17:38
Haemogoblinwell someone was saying i should use the command line17:38
Haemogoblini dont know how!17:38
Haemogoblini mean, i know where it is17:39
stuqbascule: I wonder if I just had a 'hiccup' in kuser... just trying to add another user, and I noticed that the UID wasn't automatically set in my first attempt17:39
basculeodd17:39
stuqthat was something I had to edit, which didn't seem right17:39
Haemogoblinbut i dont know the actual commands i have to insert17:39
stuqbascule: yes, thanks, have that faq already17:39
ubuntuhello. I was wondering why, when I use the vesa driver, the fonts are smaller than when using the nvidia driver...17:39
axelHaemogoblin: When I wrote use the command line I wanted to say that you open the console.17:39
stuqi'm just gonna do a do-over17:39
Haemogoblin:D17:40
Haemogoblinsoo how do i add those files using the command line?17:40
stuqbascule: thanks for the suggestions17:40
fidelioPhilRod: i tried again krpinter and managed to attach a file. I got this message:"17:40
fidelioThe file format text/plain is not directly supported by the current print system. You now have 3 options:17:40
fidelioKDE can attempt to convert this file automatically to a supported format. (Select Convert)17:40
fidelioYou can try to send the file to the printer without any conversion. (Select Keep)17:40
fidelioYou can cancel the printjob. (Select Cancel)17:40
fidelioDo you want KDE to attempt and convert this file to application/postscript?17:40
axelHaemogoblin: installing packages (from repositories) goes like this: sudo apt-get install <name of packages here separated with a space character>17:40
basculestuq: welcome, it is rather easy in the whole to add a user, seems the gui ways are perhaps a little lacking at sane defaults17:40
fidelioPhilRod: if i click on convert printer works17:41
stuqbascule: so, you are just using useradd?17:41
axelHaemogoblin: "sudo" executes the command as a super user (admin in the Windows world).17:41
basculeI do when I add users yes17:41
stuqk, i'll give that a try17:41
stuqthanks17:41
axelHaemogoblin: "apt-get" is the programm you use.17:41
PhilRodfidelio: not supporting text/plain sounds very weird. What does kprinter say for "print system curently used"?17:41
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Haemogoblinso...17:42
Haemogoblinah17:42
basculestuq: just pay attention the the groups, you could copy them from /etc/shadow and bear in mind it is the admin group that allows sudo access17:42
Haemogoblinsudu adept-get  libxine1-bin?17:42
axelHaemogoblin: "install" is the option you need to install packages. There are other ones like update, upgrade, clean, autoremove, ...17:42
basculestuq: when I say copy, I mean make them the same as the other user17:42
axelHaemogoblin: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin17:43
c-ronwhat is the process named that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4?17:43
stuqbascule: yes, thanks, i get it.  This is all slightly different in bsd, so I have to17:43
stuq'unlearn'17:43
fidelioPhilRod: CUPS17:43
axelHaemogoblin: sudo not sudu17:43
Haemogoblinlol17:43
axelHaemogoblin: apt-get not adept-get17:43
Haemogoblinsoffh17:43
Haemogoblinsorry17:43
Haemogoblinhehe17:43
axelHaemogoblin: the option install was missing.17:43
Haemogoblinsudo apt-get install  libxine1-bin17:44
Haemogoblinyes?17:44
axelHaemogoblin: No problem. Back in DOS days I had also trouble with the commands at first. ;)17:44
axelHaemogoblin: Yes.17:44
Haemogoblini'm actaully good with dos17:44
Haemogoblinwell used to be until bill gates killed it17:44
Haemogoblin:(17:44
axelHaemogoblin: Just other commands. ;)17:45
axelHaemogoblin: He also established it.17:45
c-ronhi, what is the name of the process that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4? i'm asking because i have no UI tho x loads17:46
Haemogoblinapparently  libxine1-bin, is already instealld17:46
basculec-ron: startkde17:46
axelHaemogoblin: a little hint: If you want to see some options, ect. of a command you can type: man <command>17:46
axelHaemogoblin: q exits the "reader".17:46
ugaguys, anybody knows how to enable boot logs?17:46
llutzuga enable it in /etc/default/bootlogd17:47
ugallutz: tried that. this is about silly already, I'm supposed to have /etc/default/bootlogd thing enabled, bootlogd is enabled as default service...17:47
ugaadn yet the boot log is empty17:48
Haemogoblinthanks for the tip17:48
axelHaemogoblin: to accellerate the package installation: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin libxvidcore4 libxine1-plugins ibquicktime117:48
axelHaemogoblin: Delete those packages you have already installed in the command I posted above.17:48
HaemogoblinReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-bin is already the newest version.E: Couldn't find package ibquicktime117:48
c-roni get the message "KDE seems to be already running on this display." when i run startkde. no panels are being displayed.17:48
axelHaemogoblin: This package is used to play quicktime-videos.17:49
Haemogoblinright soo looks like they are all installed17:49
llutzUGA "locate bootlogd"17:49
axelHaemogoblin:  libquicktime1 would be the right name. Sorry. My mistake.17:50
ugallutz: /etc/default/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd and /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd-single17:50
llutzuga: so no daemon present, install sysvinit17:51
Haemogoblinright17:51
axelHaemogoblin: Do the MP3s work?17:51
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Haemogoblinone second i'll test17:51
ugallutz: lol, I had tried apt-get ing bootlogd, but given I had not found it I thought it was part of some base system install. How on earth was there a service and not the daemon? thanks man =)17:52
Nemesis02good morning everyone :) got a bit of a library conflict with glib here, wondering if anyone could help.17:52
basculec-ron: well try killing X with ctrl+alt+bksp and do it again at the login-screen, NOTE: it will kill X straight away17:52
llutzuga: one of those ubuntu-things.... nobody knows17:52
ugallutz: btw, I thought now the startup wasn't really sysv517:53
Nemesis02I keep getting this error msg when i try to do ./configure on an application: http://nopaste.us/12617:53
llutzuga: i guess it is somewhat between sysV and...17:53
ugaheh17:53
ugaanyway, rebooting17:53
Haemogoblinnope it's doesnt work17:54
Nemesis02does anyone know howto fix that problem?17:54
Haemogoblinmaybe the files are currupt17:56
Haemogoblinjust wonder how i install zinf17:56
axelHaemogoblin: extract it,17:57
axelHae17:57
axelHaemogoblin: go to that directory (command line).17:57
llutzHaemogoblin: aptitude install zinf17:57
axelHaemogoblin: Hey Zinf is in the Kubuntu repositories.17:58
axelHaemogoblin: I did not know that.17:58
axelHaemogoblin: sudo apt-get install zinf17:58
llutzit should be 1st look before start compiling something17:58
Haemogoblinthe files are on my desktop if you can call it that17:59
Haemogoblinhow do i navigate to my desktop in the command line17:59
llutzcd ~/Desktop17:59
stuqbascule:no add user joy yet... I should mention that this is the 'kde4 remix' version of kubuntu hardy, so there may be some unresolved issues18:00
basculepossibly, i really wish I had a definitive answer for you18:00
stuqbascule: though you would think that adding a user was pretty basic to the functionality of a release18:00
stuqso, kstartupconfig4... i'm researching that18:00
basculethat is not one I know18:00
stuq  /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kstartupconfig418:01
basculeok18:01
stuqthat's what it needs, at this point18:01
basculeis it a shell script?18:01
stuqbinary file, not sure yet18:01
axelHaemogoblin: a little explaination of llutz's command: "cd ~" takes you to your home-directory, e.g. /home/Haemogoblin/18:01
Haemogoblinright18:02
stuqbascule: this might be a clue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66936018:03
stuqtrying that... have to reboot, for some reason, my install doesn't like 'logging out' either ;-(18:03
basculeso there is some kde 3/4 conflicts then18:03
fidelioPhilRod: I assume you ran out of ideas18:04
PhilRodfidelio: yeah, sorry. Got a bit distracted. Um, what were the apps where printing didn't work?18:04
fidelioPhilRod: gedit, office18:10
BluesKajHaemogoblin, you will nedd to add the medibuntu repositories,where you can then install these using adept :  libk3b2-mp3, libxine1-ffmpeg, and libdvdcss218:11
PhilRodhrm, perhaps they're not using cups. I'm not really familiar with how non-kde applications print stuff. You could see if they have a setting for what "print command" to use, and set that to "kprinter"18:11
Haemogoblinsoo where do i find that matey?18:11
Haemogoblini'm just struggling with installing zinf18:12
BluesKaj!medibuntu | Haemogoblin18:12
ubottuHaemogoblin: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:12
Haemogoblinfrom my desktio18:12
PhilRodfidelio: if that doesn't work, you could try asking in one of the applications' cahnnels18:12
axelHaemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu are you using? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04)?18:13
fidelioPhilRod: ok, thanks18:13
BluesKajHaemogoblin, oce you are athe medibuntu site use the "howto" .18:14
BluesKajonce18:14
Haemogoblinok thanks18:15
Haemogoblin:D18:15
thykoHaemogoblin: what you trying to do?18:15
heroicwisdomHi, i am haveing some troble installing a ralink wifi device in kubuntu 8.04. I have compiled the driver, but i do not think that linux is assiotatiing the driver to the device, can somebody help me with this?18:15
thykoheroicwisdom: use ndiswrapper18:15
Haemogoblini18:16
Haemogoblinwhy is it that i can't get into a dir called zinf-2.2.518:16
Haemogoblinwhen i type cd /zinf-2.2.518:16
thykoHaemogoblin: remove /18:16
llutzHaemogoblin: forget that, install zinf from repo: "sudo aptitude install zinf"18:16
llutzthyko: stop telling shit!18:16
thykollutz: blow me18:17
heroicwisdomi can not get the the windows driver, the winodws installer is not a cab, or zip file18:17
BluesKaj!ops | thyko18:17
ubottuthyko: Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!18:17
axelllutz: he means that the character "/" should be deleted.18:17
Haemogoblinthanks mate18:18
Haemogoblininstalling now18:18
Haemogoblini'd still like to know where i was going wrong18:18
BluesKajwe get jerks here with malicicous advice very rarely, but it does happen18:19
Haemogoblin:(18:20
BluesKajHaemogoblin, which distro are you running hardy 8.04 ?18:21
heinkel_111BluesKaj:  that does not really look like malicious advice18:21
basculeI think he was not saying remove the top-level dir, he was saying to not use the / in the command18:21
Haemogoblinthe one thats up on the site18:21
heinkel_111he did not mean the root directory18:21
BluesKajI thought at first he was telling him to remove /18:21
basculeit looks like it at a glompse18:22
basculeglimpse, but tied together it makes more sense18:22
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heinkel_111yes I agree it is possible to misunderstand, but I really doubt it was malicious18:22
heinkel_111just unfortunate and not cautious18:22
Haemogoblincrikey....the console is case sensitive??18:22
Haemogoblinthats something dos wasn't18:22
Haemogoblin:S18:22
basculeand he reacted badly rather than explaining what he was on about18:22
BluesKajso I panicked on the side of caution, besides his attitude sucked with thelanguage18:23
basculeyes18:23
axelHaemogoblin: It is case sensitive.18:23
basculeshould be easily sorted, all depends how he conducts himself in -ops really :)18:23
Haemogoblini noticed18:23
heroicwisdomcan somebody help me with installing my ralink driver? the driver name is ra2860sta.ko, does anybody have experince with this?18:23
Haemogoblini've managed to get in the dir on my desktop now18:23
Haemogoblin:)18:24
Haemogoblinwoop!18:24
BluesKajHaemogoblin, amarok is a great audioplayer by the way18:24
axelHaemogoblin: Ok. Then the next step.18:24
Haemogoblinwell i've installed it the other way now18:25
Haemogoblinbut at least i know how to do it..18:25
basculeheroicwisdom: have you modprobed it? does   lsmod | grep ra2860   show it in the kernel18:25
basculedid any of that make sense? :)18:26
axelBluesKaj: Some MP3s did not work. So Haemogoblin wants to install an other audio player that should solve the problem.18:26
Haemogoblinwhat is aptitude?18:26
axelHaemogoblin: You mean you installed the player with "sudo apt-get install ..."?18:26
axelHaemogoblin: Something like apt.18:27
Haemogoblinyes18:27
Haemogoblini used the get command18:27
axelHaemogoblin: Then there is no need to install it from source.18:27
heroicwisdombascule: I jsut ran that command and i see the driver with the feilds 501592 then 018:27
axelHaemogoblin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(program)18:27
Haemogoblinbut it's good to know how to install stuff off the net18:27
Haemogoblin:D18:28
axelHaemogoblin: Stop. It's a frontend for apt.18:28
axelHaemogoblin: Sorry. I was wrong.18:28
basculeheroicwisdom: ok, i will look a little a what it wants, 5 mins18:28
Haemogoblinright18:29
Haemogoblinlol18:29
heroicwisdombascule: ok thanks for the help18:29
axelHaemogoblin: Do the MP3s work with the recently installed player?18:30
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Haemogoblinone sec i'm going to check i'm reading up on those addons18:30
HaemogoblinMedibuntu18:30
Haemogoblinsoo18:31
Haemogoblinfirstly i run this line from the console18:32
Haemogoblinsudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list18:32
basculeheroicwisdom: looks like an ndiswrapper situation18:32
axelHaemogoblin: Not quite.18:33
axelYou must tell apt to look there for packages.18:33
heroicwisdombascule: i cant get a copy of the driver, the driver comes in a .exe format, and i have no way to extract it18:34
jussi01!info cabextract18:34
ubottucabextract (source: cabextract): a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (hardy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB18:34
basculethanks jussi0118:34
jussi01:)18:35
axelaxel: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.18:35
axelaxel: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager18:35
heroicwisdomi have tryed that, i still cant get anything.18:36
basculedo you have a link to the driver, I will have a go at extracting it here18:37
heroicwisdomlet me see hang on18:37
axelHaemogoblin: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.18:37
axelHaemogoblin: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager18:37
Haemogoblinloading adept18:37
basculeheroicwisdom: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page <-- you were using that?18:38
axelHaemogoblin: Then in the menue: Adept > "manage package repositories"18:38
heroicwisdomhttp://www.encore-usa.com/product_download.php?region=us&bid=318:38
Haemogoblinkk18:38
axelHaemogoblin: ?? kk ??18:38
basculeheroicwisdom: which model?18:39
heroicwisdomno i downloaded the linux driver from a link i saw on the ubuntu forums, the one on the encore website did compile nicely, and th eone on the forums was a bit more recent18:39
basculeok18:40
axelHaemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu do you use? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04?)18:40
Haemogoblini think thats it18:40
heroicwisdombaclue: im sorry i guess it didnt jump to it, its ENLWI-N18:40
heroicwisdomhttp://www.encore-usa.com/download/driver/ENLWI-N_ENPWI-N_Win_Driver.zip18:40
heroicwisdomthats the dicret link to the driver18:40
axelHaemogoblin: OK. Let's go further.18:41
Haemogoblinok i have the software sources open18:41
Haemogoblini have main, uni and multi checked18:42
axelHaemogoblin: Klick on the tab "Tird-Party Software".18:42
Haemogoblinright18:42
Haemogoblini'm there18:42
axelHaemogoblin: and than on the button "add".18:42
basculeheroicwisdom: OK, the linux module is currently in the kernel (lsmod) but iwconfig retirns 'no wireless extensions' ?18:43
Haemogoblinkk18:43
basculethat win driver is rather big, some total breakage 'helper' software bundled no doubt :)18:44
axelHaemogoblin: Then add the following string: deb http://de.packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free18:44
Haemogoblindone18:45
axelHaemogoblin: The string must be very precise.18:46
heroicwisdombascule: yea the win driver is bloted. iw config returns ra0 and some info but i get a warning it says "Warning: Driver for device ra0 has been compiled with an ancient version of Wireless extention, while this program support version 11 or later some things may be broken"18:46
Haemogoblinit's been added18:46
axelHaemogoblin: After Pressing OK. the package list should be reloaded.18:46
Haemogoblinit's on the list18:46
luisrohello18:46
Haemogoblinand ticked18:46
luisroplease somebody speak spanish?18:47
basculeheroicwisdom: well we are somewhere then, if it sees the card as valid for iwconfig18:47
bascule!es18:47
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:47
axelHaemogoblin: Close the window and reload the package list.18:48
Haemogoblinkk18:48
heroicwisdombascule: It would seem so. i followed the read me to install the driver, but at a point the readmes instuctions dont work anymore. the readme wants me to run the command /sbin/insmod rt2860sta.ko18:48
axelHaemogoblin: I made a mistake.18:48
Ayabara_what's a good jpeg quality level to set in digikam? The default of 75 gives so small files that I'm becoming paraniod18:49
heroicwisdombascule: when i run that command the promt returns a file not found erroc for rt2860.ko18:49
basculeheroicwisdom: it looks lke it is alread there, well it is or you would have no wireless extensions18:49
jussi01Ayabara_: I usually use 90, but thats just me18:49
heroicwisdombascule: well thats good news!18:49
basculeheroicwisdom: yeah, the insmod/modprobe only looks to certain dirs for modules18:49
Ayabara_jussi01, ok. I tried 100 as well, but then the file size increased after editing, and that also freaked me out :-)18:50
axelHaemogoblin: Undo the changes and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f18:50
basculein /lib/modules/<kernel-version>18:50
heroicwisdombascule: ok i see,  so it loaded the driver properly, but why cant i enable the device? the command lspic returns with a unknown device ralink 060118:51
heinkel_111does anyone else experience partial system freeze  with cache turned on in konqueror18:51
heinkel_111?18:51
axelHaemogoblin: Sorry for that. I took the package-repository-link from a german site. Sorry.18:51
Haemogoblinwhat??18:51
Haemogoblini'm confused18:51
axelHaemogoblin: Open the Adept manager again.18:52
basculeheroicwisdom: so now we are gonna try a iwconfig ra0 essid <your network name> key <your key>18:52
heroicwisdombascule: ok hang on...18:52
Haemogoblinits still open18:52
basculekey has to be hex or ascii though, not passphrase18:52
* heinkel_111 reboots to get out of yet another frozen konqeror problem18:52
pulaskihello, I upgraded from gutsy 7.10 to hh 8.4 yesterday in the online manner using adept.  Now the contents of ~/ appear on the Desktop and the contents of ~/Desktop no longer do.  Is this a new 'feature'?18:52
axelHaemogoblin: Menue: Adept > Manage repositories18:53
Haemogoblinwant me to remove that link we added18:53
axelHaemogoblin: yes.18:54
heroicwisdombascule: ok i got an error, "error for wireless request set essid (8b1a) set failed on device ra0; network is down18:54
Haemogoblinremovied18:54
axelHaemogoblin: I found that there is an "official" way of adding the repository, I did not know.18:54
dhinso, after seeing how much firefox 3 can't do, I want to go back to firefox-2, but for some reason a lot of the fonts look terrible in forefox 2, on sites where it looks fine in any other browser18:54
heroicwisdombascule: i jsut ran the command iwlist scanning and the device says interface does not support scaning18:54
axelHaemogoblin: It's described here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f18:55
dhinhow can I fix the fonts so that I can go back to using firebug, loading pictures normally, etc.?18:55
axelHaemogoblin: According to this open a Konsole.18:55
basculeheroicwisdom: is ok, will do that if not associated sometimes18:55
axelHaemogoblin: and "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"18:55
axelHaemogoblin: after that: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"18:56
axelHaemogoblin: Both commands without the " at the beginning and end.18:56
heroicwisdombascule: ok, also when i go to the knetwork manager, and try to enable the device, it turns on for a second and disables the device18:57
axelHaemogoblin: Did it work?18:58
Haemogoblinone sec18:58
basculeheroicwisdom: it may not work with the manager, some cards don't18:59
Nemesis02Quick question for everyone, could anyone help fix this problem "*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.6.6, but GLIB (2.16.3) was found!"  ?  Its popping up when i goto configure the src for an application.18:59
dhincan anyone help me deal with fonts in firefox-2? They look like crap when I go to certain pages, but when I go to the same page in other browsers (including firefox 3) it looks fine18:59
heroicwisdombascule: ok, so what next then?18:59
basculeI had an acx100 in a desktop, just used a little script18:59
basculeheroicwisdom: well if you know the essid and passphrase we can try iwconfic and dhclient19:00
basculeiwconfig*19:00
heroicwisdombascule: ok, i do know both of those, but i get an error when i run the command, am i missing soemthing? what is the excat syntax of the command?19:01
basculesudo iwconfig ra0 essid <essid goes here> key <hex of phrase goes here>19:02
dhinat this rate i think i'm just going to go back to gutsy19:02
basculeheroicwisdom: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/wpapsk.html converts passphrases to hes19:02
basculehex*19:02
Haemogoblinok done19:02
dhinif that's the only easy way to fix my problem and the other minor stuff i've had to deal with19:02
heroicwisdombascule: so do i keep the <> signs? i jsu tdid and i got this error. unexpected token newline19:02
dhinheroicwisdom: no, don't keep the <>19:03
heroicwisdombascule: ok i am using WPA2 so that link will convert it?19:03
Itakuhow do i use wireless internet on KDE4?19:03
Itakuoh wait19:03
Itakuwrong chan19:03
Haemogoblinso does that mean those addons are not in the system19:04
basculeheroicwisdom: hopefully, there will be other methods too19:04
heroicwisdomok hang on i am putting in the hex key19:05
HaemogoblinAxel?19:05
axelHaemogoblin: Yes.19:05
basculeheroicwisdom: that page looks a little broken to me :)19:05
Haemogoblincool19:05
Haemogoblini'll give the player a try19:06
basculehttp://www.corecoding.com/utilities/wep2hex.php :: better one19:06
Haemogoblindidn't we install zinf?19:07
Haemogoblini cant see it on my menu19:07
Haemogoblin:S19:07
axelHaemogoblin: The packages (those of medibuntu) are not included in the official repositories because of legal "uncertainties".19:07
Haemogoblinokies19:07
Haemogoblinthanks for helping me with em19:07
Haemogoblin:D19:07
axelHaemogoblin: I thought you installed it.19:07
Haemogoblini did too19:07
Haemogoblini can't see it19:07
Haemogoblinit's not in my multimedia section19:08
heroicwisdombascule: ok i just ran the command, and go t anetwork is down error19:08
draikI'm not sure what happened from 7.10 to 8.04, clicking on links in Konversation opens a new FF window with two tabs of the same link. I have FF open and it still opens a new window with two tabs of the same site. It doesn't use the opened FF and open a single tab. How do I fix this?19:08
draikIf I click on a link from Thunderbird, it doesn't do anything. It used to open a new tab in an opened FF.19:09
basculeheroicwisdom: darn19:09
axelHaemogoblin: I don't know where to find it. I have not heard of the player until you told about it.19:09
Haemogoblinlol19:09
heroicwisdombascule: han gon let me try the other link you gave me19:09
Haemogoblinok19:09
axelHaemogoblin: But just adding the repository will not help you to solve your problem.19:09
Haemogoblinoh19:10
ugalluq19:10
ugaarf19:10
heroicwisdombascule: ok it didnt work... :(19:10
axelHaemogoblin: Adding a repository just means to tell apt that there is a place to look for packages you can install. The right packages must still be installed.19:10
Haemogoblinright19:11
basculeheroicwisdom: try just on its own sudo iwconfig ra0 essid <your essid>19:11
basculethen iwconfig see if it is associated19:12
therionHi, i have a problem with gdebi-kde, pratically it doesn't install any packages... how to resolve this?19:12
thtgood evening anyone here who can answer me a question about madwifi and xubuntu ?19:12
Haemogoblinsoo what do you suggest19:12
axelHaemogoblin: Do you use the 32bit or 64bit version of kubuntu?19:13
heroicwisdomok that time i didnt get an error, but it still does not show up under the config19:13
ugatht: 1) don't ask to ask a question. just ask it 2) xubuntu != kubuntu 3) madwifi should be same on ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, so as far as you keep yourself off-xubuntu specifics...19:13
Haemogoblin3219:13
Haemogoblinintel19:13
axelHaemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs19:14
heroicwisdombascule: wait a break though! i ran the command iwlist scanning and i can see my router!19:14
Haemogoblininstalling now19:15
basculeheroicwisdom: awesomes!19:15
axelHaemogoblin: I found an other reason why you can't play MP3s.19:15
axelHaemogoblin: A brocken XINE-cashe.19:15
Haemogoblinoh?19:15
axelHaemogoblin: rm -f ~/.xine/catalog.cache19:15
axelHaemogoblin: That deletes the cashe.19:16
heroicwisdomlet me try the iwconfig command setup again, hang on19:16
ugas/cashe/cache19:16
heroicwisdombascule: no still geting an error19:16
thtuga: is it normal that i have to rmmod ath_pci, insmod ath_pci to be able to create a monitoring device ?19:16
basculeheroicwisdom: after the iwconfig you then need to run sudo dhclient ra019:16
Haemogoblindone19:16
axelHaemogoblin: After a restart of the affected programs the file is recreated and the problem should be vanished.19:17
axelHaemogoblin: what? removing or installing?19:17
axelHaemogoblin: ;)19:17
heroicwisdombacule: hang on let me try a reboot19:17
Haemogoblini did the last command19:17
ugatht: don't ask me, I'm no expert, but somebody else here sure knows19:17
draikHow do I shrink the password dots? They are no longer asterisks. They are black dots as big as the password field.19:17
axelHaemogoblin: Does it work now?19:17
* bascule wonders what'll happen to the modules, and trying to find them19:17
heroicwisdombascule: im hopeing for the best..19:18
basculeme too19:19
Haemogoblintesting now19:19
heroicwisdomok i jsut rebooted let me run those commands again19:19
theriongdebi-kde doesn't install any deb package and do always in crash... how i can resolve this problem?19:21
heroicwisdomit seems nothing new happened i cant get a connection19:23
heroicwisdombut i can now enable the device in the network manger19:23
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dotancohenAnybody know how to target the Firefox window in Compiz?19:24
dotancohenI need to prevent Firefox from stealing focus whenreading mail in Thunderbird and clicking links. I have this rule in my"Focus Prevention Windows" text field:title="Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5"$19:25
axelHaemogoblin: ping?19:25
basculeheroicwisdom: odd, but there may be a road ahead, not one I know though, sorry19:25
dotancohenThe spelling and capitalization are correct. However, this does not prevent focus. I have tried the rule without the quotes, that does not help. What am I doing wrong?19:25
basculeto me those iwconfig and dhclient worked for me on that acx10019:26
jasoonAnyone have some experience with Ark?19:26
heroicwisdombascule: hmmm never mind, the device only allows me to enable it when i set a static IP, this is strange19:26
basculesome19:26
jasoonI'd like to zip multiple folders19:27
basculedhclent not working on it? well that might be a router issue19:27
jasoonbut not the directory folder for these folders19:27
jasoonat a loss on how to do this...19:27
heroicwisdomi guess i will do some playing, let me know if you have other ideas19:27
basculeheroicwisdom: if it is on though .. \o/19:27
heroicwisdomDCHP is fine on the router, im on my laptop now, via DHCP19:27
jasoonI figured I would just selectthe files-->Compress19:27
jasoonbut it's making zips of the directory or something19:28
Itakuhow do i get wireless inernet working?19:30
jasoonwhat wireless card do you have?19:31
Itakuidk19:31
Itakuits a usb thing19:31
jasoonlspci19:31
jasoontype that in terminal19:31
jasoonlook for network controller19:32
basculejasoon: do you have the right-click compress options showing19:32
jasoonyes19:32
jasoonone sec, I'll do it again and tell you the files it makes19:32
basculeadd to archive ...19:32
jasoonbastctl.zip and a zip with a name ziUIlnnl19:33
jasoonbast is the name of one of the folders19:33
basculelooks like it has pulled that from /tmp/19:33
jasoonin this directory19:33
axelHaemogoblin: Hello?19:33
basculelost him .. :)19:33
Itakujasoon: where do i find it?19:34
jasoonterminal is in the kde menu-->system-->konsole19:34
jasoonkonsole is a terminal emulator19:34
Haemogoblini'm here19:34
Haemogoblinit's updating and taking aaages19:34
Itakujasoon: where do i find network controller?19:34
jasoondid you type lspci?19:34
basculejasoon: can you not just go into the dir ctrl+a riht-click add to .. blah19:34
Itakujasoon: yeah19:35
axelHaemogoblin: What's updating?19:35
jasoonno such luck19:35
jasoonItaku: scroll down19:35
jasoonif you are connected, it should see the network controller19:35
jasoonwhat kind is it?19:35
jasoonnetgear/linksys/airlink et cet?19:36
axelHaemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs? Does that take so long?19:36
jasoonconnected to the computer that is19:36
Itakuits linksys19:36
jasoonok, linksys generally work great with linux19:36
Itakuwell its not working19:36
jasoonwhen you lspci'd, did you see the word linksys anywhere?19:36
Itakuidk how to set it up19:36
HaemogoblinAlex19:37
Haemogoblinupdate complete19:37
Itakujasoon: i just plugged in a usb thing and it gets wireless internet19:37
Haemogoblini also found a reason for it not playing19:37
jasoonItaku: it's working?19:38
Haemogoblini went and checked the files in the dir19:38
Haemogoblinits not copied them properly19:38
Haemogoblinall of the tunes are 4k19:38
Haemogoblin:S19:38
axelHaemogoblin: That's a reason that can not be fixed with codecs, players or deletinc cashes. ;)19:39
Itakujasoon: i need to configure it19:39
jasoonok19:39
Itakuim just asking how to19:39
axelHaemogoblin: How did you copy the files?19:39
jasooncan it see your network?19:39
Itakumy network?19:39
jasoondo you know your ESSID (network name)?19:40
Itakuyes19:40
jasoonDo you have a router?19:40
jasoonor firewall?19:40
Itakuyeah19:40
jasoonIf so, it should be broadcasting your network's name19:40
Itakuhow do i set it up??????????19:40
Itakuput in the password19:40
Itakuscan for it19:40
Itakuenter the name19:40
Itakuthat19:40
jasoonyes19:40
jasoonyou have knetworkmanager yes?19:40
jasoonyou're on kubuntu?19:40
Itakuim on kubuntu19:41
Itakuand where would i find it?19:41
jasoonsystem tray19:41
jasoonbottom right19:41
jasoonit looks like a plug going into a jack19:41
jasoonjust right click that and click on your network-->set it up like Windows19:41
Itakuok yeah i got that19:41
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jasoonDo you have WEP or WPA?19:42
ItakuYEAH I DO19:42
Itaku-caps19:42
jasoonwhich?19:42
Itakuits WPA19:42
flotishtui always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?19:43
jasoonif you click your ESSID, should be pretty straightforward how to set it up19:43
axelHaemogoblin: Did you copy the files or ripped them from a CD?19:46
axelCU!19:48
basculeflotishtu: well add them into firestarter19:49
basculeipmasq? is that really needed as well as iptables19:50
flotishtu i always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?19:50
flotishtubascule sory19:50
maduserflotishtu: a script19:51
jasoonhm19:51
flotishtubascule what do you mean add them to firestarter?19:51
jasoonin an init script probably19:51
basculewell firestarter should allow custom rules really19:51
jasoonthat's what I have to do with ndiswrapper19:51
basculebut yeah, I would redo it myself19:51
flotishtubascule yes . i think ipmasq is needed to handle firestarter firewall. otherwise it dont let me nat.19:51
madusera script set to run apon start19:51
basculeok19:51
flotishtumaduser what kind of19:51
flotishtujasoon ic.19:51
jasoonbut init is for modules19:52
maduseryou could set it to run when the network is started or restared19:52
jasoonnot sure if it would work with that19:52
maduserhave it set to run constanly to cheack if the network is running19:52
flotishtumaduser jasoon but it also resets when ethernaet connection eth4 .. is reconnected.    it will undo itself at reconnection of eth4. even if i get it working for a reboot.19:52
daniftodifor view 3gp video?19:53
flotishtumaduser how.19:53
maduserdo you know scripting?19:55
flotishtuand dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq need someone human to configure it.19:55
flotishtupres yes no keys19:55
flotishtumaduser nope19:55
maduserflotishtu: I don't have time to write it19:56
jasoonsudo fix my damn network19:56
jasoonhahaha19:56
flotishtu/etc/network/ip-up.d/ or something like that, which is run whenever the interface goes up.19:57
jasoonquestion flotishu: where did you get that huge command from?19:57
X-Setiarhh19:58
jasoonah that's cool, I just noticed something19:59
jasoonin Amarok, as a song is playing19:59
X-SetiI hate to bust in like this but..19:59
jasoonthe icon fills up reflecting the timeline of the song19:59
jasoonthat's cool haha19:59
X-Setianyone here used wintv dvb (USB) t-nova ?19:59
jasoonI haven't20:00
X-Setiworks well on my other comp, ubuntu but not here, i was wondering how you could force kaffeine to think its just been installed for the codec checker would come back up20:01
jasoonso it's a codec problem?20:01
jasoonyou're talking about the adept batch?20:01
X-Setiim not sure, i know the device is being seen from the usb20:01
X-Setiand on my other comp, its being picked up by kaffeine..20:02
X-Setisame setup here, except i get dvb client show up in kaffeine instead?20:03
The_ManU_212hi20:03
slow-motionhi20:03
X-Setihello20:03
The_ManU_212on hardy gimp is in english, new installation all locales are utf8 de, someone can help to get gimp german?20:03
The_ManU_212thx20:03
secleinteerdoes anyone konw how i can get the flac kio slave for audio cd's? i'm running kubuntu gutsy with kde 3.5.920:05
jasoonit works on ubuntu x-seti?20:05
flotishtuany one else?20:06
jasoonsorry flotishtu, I don't know how you would script that20:06
jasoonperhaps something in rc.local20:07
jasoonI would ask on the forums20:07
flotishtujasoon hm is there a auto way to configure ipmasq?20:07
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X-Setiyeah wintv works well on one of my ubuntu boxes20:07
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jasoonI can't think of how flotishtu20:08
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flotishtuk20:08
X-Setii was kind of proud of the fact i could watch digital tv on my linux box for the first time20:08
jasoonyeah that's cool x-seti20:08
X-Setibut i cant seem to make it happen on here20:08
jasoonso did you already run the adept-batch to get the restricted codecs?20:08
jasoonfor avi/wmv and so on?20:09
X-Setiyep20:09
jramskovquestion: I can only copy a file from one konqueror or dolphin window to another by drag and drop - C&P doesn't work. Also if I mark some text in konqy (webbrowser) with the mouse, the marked text doesn't stay blue, but the text automatically gets copied into the clipboard and I can paste the text. How do I get this changed back?20:09
jasoonI don't know x-seti, that's strange20:10
X-Setiyep20:10
jasoonDo you watch the output in totem?20:10
jasoonon your working box?20:10
X-Setik@UKscifi-Events:~$ sudo lsusb20:11
X-Seti[sudo] password for k:20:11
X-SetiBus 003 Device 006: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc.20:11
X-SetiBus 003 Device 005: ID 05fe:1010 Chic Technology Corp.20:11
X-SetiBus 003 Device 004: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub20:11
X-Setii use kaffeine only, has more support20:11
jasoonso kaffeine on your ubuntu box too?20:11
X-Setithats what I see from here, so i know the device is being seen20:11
X-Setiyep20:11
jasoonyes you're right20:11
X-Setithe same config20:11
jasoonHave you tried reinstalling kaffeine?20:12
jasoonafter purging it?20:12
X-Setiyeah but i cant find the config file for it20:12
jasoonit's in the home directory isn't20:12
X-Setiits like to think so, but nothing in there is names .kaffeine if thats the folder its ment to be under20:13
jasoonI just checked and you're right20:13
jasoonI have to go, but maybe check on the forums20:13
X-Setik mate20:13
X-Setithanks20:13
jasoonLot of people with dvb issues20:13
jasoonsorry couldn't be more help, good luck :P20:14
X-Setigot a link20:14
X-Setithats ok :)20:14
jasoonGF here bro ;)20:14
jasoonpeace20:14
X-Setihehe k mate20:14
xomphey guys, trying to change my screen size so things aren't so freaking big lol. Currently I'm using 1400 x 1050 and my taskbar and such at the bottom are like an inch big lol20:25
xompnot too mention icons on the desktop are as big as half-dollars20:25
jussi01xomp: on kde3 or 4?20:26
xompjussi01, kde420:26
jussi01xomp: would you mind jumping over to #kubuntu-kde4 then? Thanks :)20:26
xompjussi01, I just got off the backtrack 3 cd that uses kde4 and noticed how nice things look compared to my kubuntu box and am trying to emulate it's look haha20:26
xompjussi01, kk, had no idea :)20:27
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TheGentlemanhow do I play an Audio CD on Kubuntu Hardy?  It seems it can't see it20:38
TheGentlemanI dunno if it worked or not with Gutsy before upgrading, as i think i never tryed playing one....20:41
melkartTheGentleman: i just tried on gutsy. works here20:43
basculewell it should just see it when you close the drawer20:43
melkartTheGentleman: although amarok took a long time to start20:43
basculeand offer to play/rip etcetera20:44
TheGentlemani think it should work... bt it doesn't in my case20:44
fidelioI still cannot get my printer to work.  Test works great thought. Any idea? Suggestions?20:44
TheGentlemanbascule  if i chooose to play it, Amarok starts and nothing happens20:45
heroicwisdomcan somebody tell me where to black list drivers?20:45
teknoprephow do i load compiz at boot time with KDE ?20:45
heroicwisdomor how to write a start up script20:46
basculeTheGentleman: hmm, I have seen such a thing, quite annoying, try kscd it is in kdemultimedia IIRC20:46
basculeit can be got alone it seems20:46
bascule!info kscd20:46
ubottukscd (source: kdemultimedia): audio CD player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 405 kB, installed size 900 kB20:46
TheGentlemanbascule: my concern is not to play that Audio CD... I can play it elsewhere.  But I cannot accept both amarok and vlc can't play an Audio CD!20:47
basculeseems odd to be fair20:48
basculeif you go into amarok ngage -> play audio cd what does it do?20:50
basculeengage*20:50
TheGentlemanis it right that the Audio CD gets mounted as /dev/scd0 ?20:50
basculeno audio cds are not mounted20:50
basculethey have no filesytem in that regard20:50
basculefor me amarok creates a list of tunes in the playlist, I then double click and off it goes, is it one of those multi-media cds with video or such on it20:51
TheGentlemanoh, now i can see the content of the CD in /media/scd0 using dolphin20:53
basculekio_parts I guess20:53
TheGentlemanbut if i select a file ans chose to play using amarok nothing happens20:54
basculeand in amrok it's self, engage -> play audio cd ?20:54
TheGentlemannothing20:54
TheGentlemannow i copied one of the wav files to my home and i can play it from there!20:55
basculeyeah20:56
TheGentlemanso, it is not a problem related to audio formats20:56
basculekonqueror offers a nice rip-as-you-drag feature too20:56
basculeno, I wish I knew, one of those things, as it has always worked for me I can't help :)20:57
TheGentlemani know, but I only want amarok or any other media player to play my audio cd!20:57
TheGentlemanshit! do I have to go back to windows to do such a simple thing as playing an Audio CD???????????????20:58
basculeif you goto amrok settings -> configure amarok engine what have you got set for cd defult device21:00
TheGentlemanlet me see...21:01
TheGentlemanit's /dev/cdrom21:02
basculeand if you say in a terminal ls -l /dev/cdrom  is it there?21:03
TheGentlemanno file or directory21:04
basculeah ha21:04
basculels -l /dev/scd021:04
TheGentlemanok, it is seen there!21:05
basculeso set the device to /dev/scd0 in amarok engine and see where we are21:05
TheGentlemannothing happens again......21:08
basculeyou applied it i guess21:08
TheGentleman i set amarok to /dev/scd0 and hit ok, then tried to play and nothing happened21:09
TheGentlemanso I closed amarok and opened it again and the value was again set to /dev/cdrom!21:09
dwidmann_laptopTheGentleman: try "kaffeine -d /dev/scd0"21:09
dwidmann_laptopTheGentleman: or "amarok --cdplay /dev/scd0"21:10
basculedidn't hit apply at a guess21:11
TheGentlemanamarok --cdplay /dev/scd021:11
basculeI just changed,and it is fine21:11
TheGentlemanafter issuing the command for kaffffeine i got the following message:21:12
TheGentlemanASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (376)21:12
TheGentlemanand of course it didn't play anything............21:12
heroicwisdomhey can someboyd help me set up duel head on my PC? i have a nvidia 8600 video card21:13
dwidmann_laptopheroicwisdom: it's dirt easy to do with the "nvidia-settings" application21:13
heroicwisdomwhere can i find that? do i have to install via the package handler?21:14
dwidmann_laptopheroicwisdom: I can't remember, I think so though (this is an unwelcome change in hardy, IMO)21:14
basculeit is part of nvidia binary driver21:15
heroicwisdomok i am installing some things right now, but when its finsihed i will look for it21:15
TheGentlemandwidmann_laptop, amarok says it can't create a io-slave   klauncher says protocol cdda unknown21:15
basculekdemultimedia21:15
jordanis there a way to restore my package versions the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.21:15
TheGentlemanand umbelievably amarok is now Playing it!!!!  a good minute later than i issued the command!!!21:16
bascule?21:16
heroicwisdomok i see it, im installing it now21:16
basculewell it is a littke slow to pick up21:16
dwidmann_laptopTheGentleman: hmmmmm21:17
_crash_cdda unknown?21:17
_crash_never seen that one21:17
dwidmann_laptopI've seen it, but forget how I resolved it ...21:17
basculeheroicwisdom: if you had the binary nvidia driver in already it should be there, there is a seperate package, but it will remove the driver, IIRC21:17
TheGentlemanis it normal taht amarok sends an error message and then begins to play with a good minute delay?21:18
basculefor nvidia-settingss that is21:18
heroicwisdomi jsut installed the nvida settings package, but it did not remove the driver21:18
basculeo21:18
heroicwisdomthe xconfig utilite was gunna though (but i did not install that)21:18
dwidmann_laptopTheGentleman: I wouldn't say that's normal at all, no.21:18
heroicwisdomim look at the settings util now, where can i control duel head?21:19
basculemaybe cause if the updated device descriptor ??21:19
dwidmann_laptopheroicwisdom: look at the displays tab I think it is ... something like that21:19
xomp!info purekde21:19
ubottuPackage purekde does not exist in hardy21:19
TheGentlemanunfortunately I can't tell how it used to be on gutsy... since i never tryed playing an Audo CD on it21:19
dwidmann_laptop!purekde | xomp21:19
ubottuxomp: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:19
_crash_I thought Kubuntu WAS purekde...21:20
heroicwisdomi dono, i saw nvida-xconfig, and i was gunna install that as well. but when i previewed the changes i saw it was gunna uninstall the driver, so i canceled that21:20
xompthanks21:20
basculeheroicwisdom: thanks for the clarity, I remebered something :)21:20
dwidmann_laptop_crash_: that page saves the poor souls who installed gnome first, and then found out how much better KDE is :)21:20
bascule:D21:20
xomphas anyone experienced issues with enabling desktop effects in kde4?21:20
jordanxomp: yes21:21
xompjordan, I'm getting nothing but black, no icons or taskbar etc. :(21:21
dwidmann_laptopxomp: which kinds of issues?21:21
heroicwisdombascule: no problem. now what is xinerama?21:21
bascule!xinerama21:21
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead21:21
xompI can see the menu if I click it's general location to logout and get back into gnome is all I can do now :(21:21
basculethe bot knows more than me :)21:22
heroicwisdomlol21:22
basculeI knew basically what it was21:22
dwidmann_laptopxomp: try changing the method it's using .... I forget where the setting is off hand, but I think if you go to kde4's system settings and go to desktop effects from there, it will let you change what it uses, ie: Xrender vs OpenGL, etc21:22
jordanxomp: hwen things like that happen, i move my .kde directory to a new name. that clears your user config21:22
heroicwisdomi see thanks for the info i dfo not want to use that, i like my two seprate displays.21:23
heroicwisdomwhats the command to restart the x server?21:23
jordanxomp: .kde4 dir, i mean21:23
xompjordan, lol I delted my .kde directory in terminal from gnome21:23
dwidmann_laptopheroicwisdom: just log out, go to restart x from the kdm menu, and log back in :)21:23
basculelog out, or ctrl+alt+bksp <-- kills it dead be warned21:23
heroicwisdomok ill be back!21:23
basculeas in no warning just stops and restarts X21:24
xompjordan, after killing my .kde4 directory, would logging in and out restart X or would I need to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to accomplish that?21:24
dwidmann_laptopbascule: and kills all X apps without saving, etc21:24
jordanxomp: i'd do a full ctrl+alt+bkspace21:24
xompjordan, ok, brb :D21:25
jordanxomp: good luck21:25
jordanis there a way to restore my package versions to the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.21:25
busfahrerExcuse me, I upgraded to Hardy and now my Firefox crashes all the time. Any hints?21:25
dwidmann_laptopJordan, yes, but it will take some work21:26
_crash_note to self: dont hit ctrl+alt+bkspc again21:26
dwidmann_laptopbusfahrer: it's a beta, how in the world it got into an Ubuntu Release is beyond me.21:26
jordandwidmann_laptop: more work than its worth on a week-old install?21:27
dwidmann_laptopjodan: no, not really, it's quite doable.21:27
jordandwidmann_laptop: cool. can you point me in the right direction?21:27
dwidmann_laptopjordan: in fact, I've done it recently21:28
jordandwidmann_laptop: sweet21:28
heroicwisdomyay it worked!21:29
xompbah, I think it's just busted beyond fixing guys :(21:32
heroicwisdomare thier any good multimonitor utilites for linux like ultramon for windows?21:32
xompI can't bring up system settings to remove the advanced effects setting cuz everything is black :(21:32
jordanxomp: can you log into kde4 as a different user?21:33
xompjordan, not sure, i only have this one account21:33
busfahrer`Excuse me, ever since upgrading to Hardy (KDE 3.5.9 version), whenever text scrolls in a window (for example in Konversation), or when I open Yakuake, it feels slow, sluggish, you know what I mean. Any idea what could be behind this?21:33
jordanxomp: i'd try creating another user and see if all is well with kde4 under the new user21:34
xompjordan, not a bad idea21:34
xompwow, not being able to create a user with appropriate capitalization is so frustrating...21:36
xompwant to creat a user named "Joshua"? Too bad, your stuck with all lower case!!21:36
busfahrer`anybody, please? :-(21:38
xompok, kde4 is fine under another user21:39
xompanyway to copy some things from this user account to my old one?21:39
BluesKajbusfahrer`, install htop and run it in the terminal to see what process is using up your resources21:41
xomppavel_, from ACS?21:41
busfahrer`BluesKaj: my CPU is happy idling away21:41
jordanxomp: yeah, you can as root. sudo cp ... ...21:42
dany89nb m21:42
jordanxomp: just be sure chown the files to the new user after you copy them21:42
dany89ciau21:42
xompjordan, sorry, should have been more specific lol. Anyway to move the files that will make kde4 work again onto my old account from this new account?21:42
jordanxomp: gotcha. im not sure which files kde stores your config in. i thought it would be .kde421:43
ugajordan: standard kde stores configs under wherever $KDEHOME points to21:44
ugaiirc kubuntu has modded it to default to .kde421:44
xompjordan, yeah, I'm stumped :S thinking about just reloading the whole OS, I've made so many changes in my learning process that I have more than likely snafu'd plenty of things hah21:44
xompI'm thinking of replaceing gnome on my kids edubuntu box to kde421:45
xompI think they would enjoy it much more, they seem bored with gnome.21:46
ugaxomp: I wanted to say games, but I installed some to a friend's kid last week, and I got very dissapointed21:47
ugagames now fail running fullscreen21:47
ugaunsupported video modes21:47
xompuga, you installed some games to a friend's kid? hehe21:47
ugaI had replaced their windows box for a linux kubuntu one21:48
ugaand obviously they "need" games =)21:48
xompah lol21:48
xompyeah i took windows xp off the kids pc and put edubuntu on it instead21:48
ugabut most known games nice for kids like supertux would fail running21:48
ugatuxracer worked, since it does not do fullscreen by default21:49
ZefirI am using Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04. I have a Geforce 8800 GTS 320 MB. It all started with Compiz-Fusion. I tried installing the Snow plugin, compiled it and all, after reboot my screen went black. Since then every time I try to configure my gfx card, black screen after reboot...21:58
ZefirThe only way I can fix it is go to recovery and use xfix. I miss my Compiz-Fusion effects dearly. I will be very grateful if someone helps me get them back. Just ask away if you need anymore info...21:59
BluesKaj!compiz | Zefir22:03
ubottuZefir: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:03
_crash_lol22:04
ZefirI think the problem has gone system-wide now, because every time I enable any graphics driver, well, no deal. Nevertheless, I shall try.22:05
_crash_Im still afraid to install linux on my desktop.22:05
_crash_Zefir: have you tried re-installing the gfx driver from scratch?22:05
ZefirSome time ago. You mean purge and reintall?22:06
_crash_yup22:06
_crash_nuke n pave will fix anything22:07
_crash_I hunger. I shall return later with more useless dribbel.22:07
ZefirWill try in a moment, thank you.22:08
BluesKajZefir, you may get more help in #compiz-fusion22:11
ZefirAs I've said, I think the problem has spread to my whole system. But I shall ask there.22:12
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basculesee if you can get the compiled plugin to remove cleanly22:13
basculethen do a remove and reinstall of all compiz stuff22:13
ZefirI think I'll reboot now, having purged and reinstalled the nvidia driver.22:14
basculealso try a new user account22:14
ZefirWell, there's this funny thing...22:14
ZefirI get a black screen when I log out.22:14
basculehmmm, breakage22:16
ZefirI'm a natural at breaking things, that is for sure.22:16
basculepart if free os, so much can change :)22:17
basculeof*22:17
ZefirSomeone should hire me for quality assurance, if I can't break it most people won't.22:17
basculewell, they like that in dev places22:17
ZefirYay for career options.22:17
basculegive it to Zefir for 2 days, he'll knacker it :)22:17
ZefirI'll reboot now. Cya in a few minutes.22:18
basculek22:19
ZefirWell, still got visual, but that's not surprising considering that I haven't turned the drivers on.22:21
ZefirI usually use System -> Hardware Drivers Manager, yay or nay? I think there are several ways to do this...22:22
wesley!adeptfix22:23
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:23
al3x4ndr3any repositore to get Qt 4.4 in Gutsy?22:26
norman_xhi out there. how can I switch of the kubuntu-picture during system start, and how can I let me show the startings texts in 1280x1024 resolution? I run Kubuntu 8.04 - and sorry for my bad english22:29
_crash_norman_x: thats actually a good question. Let me know if you get an answer on that one22:30
norman_x_crash_: yeah ;-) I heard about that with 8.04 grub cannot be modified more in that way, is that correct?22:31
devath0i think u can remove the splash screen pretty easy.. setting the res might be a bit more difficult22:31
_crash_devath0: Well, for instance the bootup on Backtrack 3 is nice and pretty. So there has to be a way to mod it22:32
ZefirWhat's the best way to enable/configure the nvidia_new drivers?22:32
devath0_crash_: for removing the kubuntu splash u can use "sudo apt-get remove ksplash" << -- but im unsure of how to change the boot res.22:34
_crash_devath0: Dont want to remove it so much as change it22:35
devath0ah22:35
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aleksandarhello people22:42
ZefirEnabling ANY graphics drivers just screws things up! Damn. Enabling nvidia drivers = black screen at next reboot.22:46
shaffycan someone tell me how i list the read/write/executable attributes of a file?  is there an option via "ls"?22:58
BonesolTeraDyne"ls -l" I believe22:59
ZefirSo, using EnvyNG gave me some interesting results in configuring my drivers.22:59
BonesolTeraDyneThat's a lowercase L, by the way22:59
ZefirI got to the splash screen and after that I saw the "you're using low graphics settings now" window (I think), but it was all in a weird position, like, upper-right corner of the window in the lower-left corner of my screen...23:00
shaffyBonesolTeraDyne: thanks.  that did it just fine.  much appreciated!23:04
xompcan someone please help me? I've enabled the 'advanced desktop effects' under kde4 and now since doing that I can't see anything, desktop, taskbar, panel w/e. I've deleted .kde and it didn't help.23:04
BonesolTeraDyneshaffy: Glad I could help23:05
shaffycan someone help me with this error ( http://pastebin.com/d2ad51016 )?  i've been trying to add the Wine to kubuntu's sources list, however, this appears to be happening.23:05
Dragnslcrxomp- #kubuntu-kde4 can probably help more23:06
xompDragnslcr, I've tried there and waited for 40 mins with no response.23:06
xompSeems nobody is around today, no matter where you go lol. Maddening for someone needing help :(23:07
sroyz...23:09
xompArgh, I've wasted literally months with ubuntu just trying to get elementary things working. The day linux doesn't break by doing basic functions is the day I return to it. For now I'm going back to Windows, it's never let me down with basic functionality before.23:10
basculeshaffy: try again, i can see it23:10
xompCheers and Happy Mothers Day to all you Mothers in here!23:10
basculethat was a straight 404 error, gone now23:11
shaffybascule: i still got the same error.23:11
shaffy http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list appears not to be present on the server23:12
basculeput it in a browser, you will see it23:12
basculeonly 2 lines23:12
chillaKShi23:13
chillaKShelp!23:13
chillaKShello?23:13
basculeshaffy: i get in browser and from wget23:13
BonesolTeraDynechillaKS: Just ask your question. If someone can help, they'll help23:13
shaffywhen you put the above address in your browser, you do not get a 404 error??23:14
basculenope23:14
BonesolTeraDyneshaffy: nor do I23:14
shaffyweird, now it works.23:14
chillaKSBonesolTeraDyne I did a massive Gutsy upgrade and b0rkd the Kernel23:14
shaffyweird, the file must have been absent?23:14
ugashaffy: or you got an incorrect dns resolution23:15
BonesolTeraDynechillaKS: How, exactly? Mind providing details?23:15
ugashaffy: or a cached response23:15
chillaKSI cannot boot without initrd....bak23:15
ugashaffy: or well, the server might have been buggy ;)23:15
BonesolTeraDynechillaKS: you mean the initrd prompt? are you using a dell?23:15
chillaKSI mean the boot kernel has .bak at the end??23:16
BonesolTeraDyneinitramfs*23:16
shaffyuga, BonesolTeraDyne and bascule thanks for the help.  it is appreciated.23:16
shaffy:)23:16
basculenp23:16
ugawow, I feel praised for not doing nothing23:16
ugas/nothing/anything23:16
BonesolTeraDynechillaKS: Has .bak at the end? I've never seen that happen before...23:16
chillaKSBonesolTeraDyne is not a dell, grub and the the files in boot dont match23:17
basculeuga: you bothered to check and answer, that is enough :)23:18
BonesolTeraDyneSadly, I'm not sure. I don't mess with grub all that much.23:18
basculeit must be looking for that initrd23:18
chillaKSBonesolTeraDyne and the recovery kernel has dpkg.bak23:19
shaffyi have a file, "WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" which is supposed to be an executable.  after performing chmod 755 on the file, and attempting to excute it in a terminal, i get the following error: "bash: WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl: command not found"   any ideas anyone?23:19
BonesolTeraDyneshaffy: did you try "./WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" ?23:20
shaffyBonesolTeraDyne:   thanks :)23:21
ZefirThis is so frustrating...23:22
chillaKSanyone?23:22
chillaKSthe updater is borken23:22
CorvixchillaKS: tried a sudo update-grub ?23:23
chillaKShow to fix a kernel issue?23:23
BonesolTeraDynechillaKS: since it's a kernel problem, you might want to try to get an aswer from #ubuntu.23:23
BonesolTeraDyneanswer*23:23
BonesolTeraDyneIt's worth a shot23:23
chillaKSBonesolTeraDyne why???!!23:23
chillaKSI am using kubuntu23:23
basculechillaKS: let's see a paste of /boot/grub/menu.lst23:23
ZefirAfter running EnvyNG and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg I managed to get to the Nvidia splash screen, and then the screen went all... Umm... Torn up? It was in stripes, nothing in it's right place, looked like a refresh problem...23:23
basculeand ls /boot23:23
BonesolTeraDyneThe kernel is used in both ubuntu and kubuntu. They're the same kernel23:24
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chillaKSbascule k brb23:24
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ZefirPerhaps I need another program to configure my monitor? But I can't find any...23:25
chillaKSdon't leave23:25
bascule?23:25
basculeZefir: nvidia-settings-manager23:25
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BonesolTeraDynebascule: he's probably gone to get the info for you.23:25
CorvixZefir: tried nvidia-settings23:25
basculeis it without manager now, I dunno :)23:26
ZefirYou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.23:26
basculehmm23:26
* Trevinyo è assente: Pero ora assente.23:26
ZefirI tried that a thousand times. Black screen.23:26
basculeenvy eh?23:26
ZefirUsing Hardware Drivers Manager = black screen after reboot.23:27
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ZefirUsing envy = the situation described above, splash screen, torn up view, but it's SOMETHING at least.23:27
basculetry #nvidia23:27
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ZefirOk.23:28
ZefirOnce, just once, I managed to get a WHITE screen and I saw my compiz-fusion effects (the windows burn up when I minimize them, sweet)...23:31
Itakuim using KDE5 and when i play a song no sound comes out23:32
ItakuKDE423:32
basculeamarok?23:33
Itakuyup23:33
basculetry changing outputs23:33
Itakuhow?23:33
basculesettings configure amarok engine23:33
Itakudoesnt work23:34
Itakuno sound on my comp works at all23:34
Itakunot just amarok23:34
basculeah23:34
basculekmix shows a card and the volumes are ok?23:34
Itakuwheres kmix?23:35
weswh-what's the syntax to remove something with apt?23:35
basculealt+f2 kmix <return>23:35
basculeaot-get remove <thing?23:35
basculeapt-get*23:35
Itakualt+f2 doesnt do anything23:35
bascule?23:35
Itakui typed kmix in terminal23:36
basculeok23:36
Itakuand a megaphone with lines show up23:36
basculehmm23:36
basculethis is kmix :)23:36
basculevolume sliders23:36
Itakuok23:36
weswh-so, apt-get* install <package>?23:37
Itakual of them are aat max23:37
sparr__aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages that apt-get doesnt.  how can i convince it not to?23:37
ZefirSo much for getting help on #nvidia, no response. *sigh*23:37
basculeweswh-: no, apt-get remove package_name to remove things23:37
Itakuall of the bars are at max23:37
basculeis the green light on on front?23:38
Itakugreen light on on front?23:38
ZefirShould be under the slider.23:39
Itakuthere are no green dots23:39
basculeat the top of the slider called front there is a green light23:39
basculeoh23:39
Itakutheres nothing under slider23:39
Itakuand theres check mark boxes23:39
ZefirOh, on top in outpot, under in input. Hm, weird that.23:39
ZefirCheck mark boxes? Huh.23:40
egorkwhere can I configure how the ntfs-3g partition is auto-mounted by app-launcher?23:40
Itakuim using nvidia btw23:40
basculenever used nvidia sound23:41
basculetry in a shell alsamixer23:41
Itakuk23:41
Itakuaah it worked23:42
Itakuthanks a million23:42
Itakuyou should be +o23:42
basculenp :)23:42
basculeheh, never!! :D23:42
basculepress escape to exit that23:42
basculeif you close the shell it tends to crash23:43
egork#kubuntu-kde423:44
bascule!ntfs23:45
egorknever mind that pleas, my question should be asked in that channel.23:45
ubottuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE23:45
bascule!ntfs =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/23:46
egorkactually my problem is not witht the driver itself, just where to tell kde or ubuntu to mount new ntfs partitions with utf823:48
Wesleylibqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui423:48
endafyhey i was wondering if kde 4 is worth the download23:48
endafyim on 3.5.923:48
endafylike full kde installed and everything23:48
Wesleyi wanna remove these packages but it wanna take whole kde4 with it how to remove only the packages i want to remove23:49
basculedepends if you wanna play with newness23:49
ugaendafy: I suggest you to wait till 4.1 is out if you want to use it on a daily basis23:49
endafywell yes but stability is a matter23:49
endafyo ok ty23:49
egorkKDE4 works for me... not perfect, but no reason to downgrade to KDE3 neither.23:49
basculeleave it then :)23:49
ugaendafy: kde 4.0 is for testing purposes only23:49
endafyahh23:49
ugaand coding23:49
endafylol23:49
endafyi used it once and didnt know how to use it23:50
endafythe whole icons as a widget confused me a bit23:50
basculeWesley: just put sudo apt-get remove in front of that list23:50
BluesKajkde3 is not a downgrade , it's mature desktop that works fine without silly eye candy widgets etc.23:50
bascule:)23:50
endafyi love kde323:50
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endafyi hope it only gets more stable23:50
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Wesleybascule i did it takes whole kde4 with it23:50
basculeoh23:51
ugaendafy: that'll be hard. kde 3.x has gone so many releases speeding it up and making it more stable23:51
ugaand 4.0 was written from scratch23:51
Wesleyah shit i pushed enter23:51
basculeWesley: well kde4 does need those :)23:51
ugait'll take some time reaching the same level of robustness23:51
endafyhow do i get the cool kde 4 menu in kde323:51
basculenow that I read them23:51
ugaendafy: arf, you don't. Just wait =)23:52
Wesleybascule i was trying to get Qt still on 4.323:52
basculewhat is it now?23:52
egorkbluesKaj :-) yesterday is not a downgrade too, but it is rock solid if you ask me :-)23:52
ugaendafy: and it's fugly anyway, white, not themed...23:52
bascule!info libqt4-core23:52
ubottulibqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core non-GUI functionality runtime library. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.4-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 1993 kB, installed size 5712 kB23:52
basculeit is 4.323:52
Wesleyin backport it is Qt 4.423:53
basculeoh23:53
endafywell so is the current menu the kickoff style menu is annoying i just wanted something like suse's menu23:53
basculeand you have upgraded to find it broken?23:53
Wesleytheres now may to not upgrade Qt 4.323:53
basculemaybe if you removed backports source and retry update .. ?23:54
basculejust a though, there are ways of forcing versions in apt IIRC23:54
Wesleyi backport there is kde4 upgrade23:54
basculeyeah23:54
Itakuon my keyboard i got three keys that control the volume but when i press it they dont work how do i make them work??23:55
BluesKajegork, kde4 wasn't stable on my pc , crashed & hung alot , and those crtooney widgets ,who needs them. Hence I dumped it :P23:55
yulprandhola23:55
egorkitaku have you tried keytouch application?23:55
BluesKajBBL , gotta set up the sprinklers23:56
endafyLoved kde for a while ever since 1.423:56
ugaItaku: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys23:56
WesleyBlueskaj dont mesh with garfield23:56
yulprandhola23:56
yulprandcomo puedo entrar al chat en español23:56
ugauhm... is there a kubuntu-es maybe?23:57
bascule!es23:57
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:57
ugayulprand: escribe /join #kubuntu-es23:57
yulprandumm i don`t know23:57
yulprandvaaya thanks23:57
yerethhi guys23:58
basculehello23:58
yerethI recently updated to 8.04 and have all kinds of problems23:58
yerethI fixed my nvidia stuff23:58
yerethbut now no sound23:58
endafywell watashi nihongo nishi neo ubuntu - jp?23:58
yerethalsaconf doesn't exist23:58
yerethalthough I do have alsa-utils installed23:58
yerethany thoughts?23:58
ZefirHow did you fix nvidia stuff, yereth?23:58
basculeyereth: I think alsaconf got dropped a while ago23:59
yerethappeared that grup didn't update properly, and was still loading the -14 kernel23:59
yerethbascule: any idea why my sound suddenly doesn't work?23:59
yerethor how I can reconfigure?23:59
endafywatashi nihongo, nishi neo ubuntu-jp?23:59

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