[00:01] <NickPresta> !wireless
[00:01] <NickPresta> Have you read the docs for installing the drivers?
[00:01] <heroicwisdom> yes it an open souce driver, and i have one some googling and checked the forums but i haave not gone too far
[00:03] <heroicwisdom> i have compiled the driver with the make command, and now im stuck, the readme get really hazy at this point
[00:04] <Flashy> will "kubuntu-kde4-desktop" work from Ubuntu HArdy to get me kubuntu 8.04?
[00:05] <genii> Flashy: apt-get install kde4
[00:05] <Flashy> and is that issue with ati card owners not shutting down properly been fixed?
[00:05] <genii> with sudo
[00:05] <jussi01> genii: no...
[00:05] <Flashy> thanks
[00:05] <jussi01> Flashy: kubuntu-kde4-desktop is correct
[00:05] <genii> jussi01: He needs kubuntu-desktop first?
[00:05] <genii> jussi01: Ah, OK
[00:05] <jussi01> :)
[00:06] <jussi01> Flashy: for further kde4 support, please use #kubuntu-kde4
[00:06] <Flashy> thanks :D
[00:06] <jussi01> :)
[00:08] <Flashy> sorry to be a pain... if I download the latest install CD can I use that as a source to install kde?
[00:08] <Flashy> my isp has a local mirror and the aussie ubuntu server has been slow of late
[00:10] <PovAddict> Flashy: you need the alternate CD
[00:10] <PovAddict> the install CD (live) won't work as a package source
[00:11] <Flashy> ok cool thanks :D
[00:12] <siofwolves> Flashy, what issue are you having with the ati card and shutting down?
[00:12] <uhriventis> Please read my post. I need help installing an ati driver
[00:12] <uhriventis> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3094354.0
[00:12] <epimeth> !paste > epimeth
[00:13] <Flashy> well I had ubuntu 8.04 and installed KDE (perhaps before the release of kubuntu 8.04) and my PC would not shut down, the screen would go black and stall in some kind of loop forever
[00:14] <siofwolves> Flashy, i had the same, found this thread. works great for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767216&highlight=logoff
[00:14] <Flashy> I read the forums and people suggested it was some process from the ati drivers not shutting down, others claimed the splash screens were the problem
[00:15] <Dragnslcr> Flashy- you should be able to use the DVD to upgrade as well
[00:15] <Flashy> I'm getting the alternate from my ISP now
[00:16] <psyco> hello, what kind of program would you recommend for ripping audio cd's??
[00:17] <PovAddict> psyco: no need for any
[00:17] <psyco> PovAddict: oh?
[00:18] <PovAddict> psyco: open a file manager
[00:19] <PovAddict> and type audiocd:/ on  the location
[00:19] <Jackault> Slight problem. I've installed kubuntu on my laptop and forgot the password.
[00:19] <keldon85> Hi, I'm curious about ATI Radeon X550 compatibility under the latest linux kernels as both Kubuntu 8.04 and Mandriva 2008 fail early during installation
[00:19] <Jackault> How can I reset it?
[00:20] <PovAddict> Jackault: when you boot it should have an option on the bootloader saying (recovery mode)
[00:20] <PovAddict> that will get you a root shell, you can change anyone's password there
[00:20] <PovAddict> (afaik)
[00:21] <psyco> PovAddict: err I want to rip it as an mp3...
[00:21] <Jackault> PovAddict: Alright, I'm in. It's given me root but I don't know the commands to actually change the users passwords. I think I ended up changing root's password
[00:21] <PovAddict> passwd <username>
[00:22] <PovAddict> psyco: I get a bunch of folders with ogg, mp3, etc
[00:22] <richard> I am trying to set up dual booting with 2 hard drives, I accessed menu.1st and added the line I was instrtucted to add, but I can't save my changes?
[00:22] <PovAddict> just move the .mp3 files somewhere else, and the the mp3 files will be actually created while copying
[00:23] <Jackault> thanks a lot PovAddict! that saved a lot of trouble
[00:23] <psyco> PovAddict: no mp3 folder on this disc. Also what if I want different bitrates?
[00:24] <PovAddict> psyco: then you don't have mp3 encoding programs - not sure what to install to make it work with audiocd:/
[00:24] <PovAddict> http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/05/032-konqueror/audiocd.png
[00:25] <PovAddict> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/audio-cd.html <- looks like you can set the bitrate
[00:25] <psyco> ahh i see.
[00:25] <psyco> Ty.
[00:26] <keldon85> I am considering using an older distro build as they work! I'm really confused as to what is causing this ...
[00:26] <psyco> wtf I have a mde control centre?
[00:26] <psyco> KDE*
[00:28] <psyco> How do I get to the LKDE control centre :S
[00:30] <richard> trying to set up dual boot (Xp & Kubuntu 2 seperate hard drives) i entered the lines in menu.1st, but can't save the changes? what did I not do?
[00:31] <Jackault> you need super user privileges to save changes. Try sudo nano "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[00:31] <Jackault> Okay, I'm in but now my wireless net isn't working
[00:32] <uhriventis> Where can I download older versions of Xserver?
[00:32] <richard> I used kdesudo kate, is nano different?
[00:32] <gkffjcs> is there a way I can force kde to handle mime types with the .extention insted of trying to guess at what's in the file, I have a bunch of annoying conflicts which I cannot solve, I really want to be able to say .whatever is with a particular app.
[00:33] <Jackault> gkffjcs: right click on a file with that extension, select 'properties' and then click on the little spanner to edit what program handles it.
[00:35] <gkffjcs> that doesn't work, for instance if I set .zip to open with ark then every file that contains zip formatting opens with ark no matter if it is actually a .zip file
[00:36] <gkffjcs> For instance .docx is a zip format, I want it to be opened by OOo, if I set it to open with OOo then kde will try and open all .zip files in OOo, which is retarded.
[00:37] <Jackault> Ah, I see. I have the same issue actually..
[00:42] <psyco> :S why does audiocd:/ not have mp3 for me.....
[00:43] <uhriventis> Does anyone know how to downgrade xorg from 7.3 to 7.1
[00:43] <IppatsuMan> psyco: you need to install the lame package
[00:43] <psyco> ahh lol ty
[00:43] <IppatsuMan> you're welcome
[00:43] <PovAddict> lame isn't really lame, it r0xx0rz :)
[00:44] <psyco> :P oh yes
[00:44] <PovAddict> there's another called toolame, for mp1 and mp2
[00:46] <psyco> epic woots got it
[00:46] <psyco> thanks guys!
[00:48] <LegoDaniel> Can anyone please help me with VirtualBox, please?
[00:49] <LegoDaniel> I get an error when I try to start the virtual machine I created.
[00:49] <neville_> You might want to ask in #vbox
[00:49] <LegoDaniel> I tried but no one will answer me.
[00:49] <neville_> hmm
[00:50] <LegoDaniel> Trying to get help in chatrooms is almost as much as a waste of time as this Linux stuff.
[00:50] <neville_> Lazy bums
[00:50] <neville_> Oh, well if that's your attitude
[00:50] <neville_> These people aren't payed to do this
[00:50] <LegoDaniel> People say how good it is suposed to be, but never say how annoying it is to use and configure.
[00:50] <neville_> Windows?
[00:51] <neville_> Have you ever seen that when you put it on freshly?
[00:51] <LegoDaniel> Kubuntu Linux, any Linux.
[00:51] <andyt> how about error kde mediamanager not running, I just browsed a cd a minute ago now error
[00:51] <neville_> It's a huger pain than any Linux installation
[00:51] <LegoDaniel> I don't have any problems with Windows 98/XP.
[00:52] <LegoDaniel> I will try again in vbox
[00:52] <andyt> can't even find the media manager
[00:52] <neville_> If this Linux stuff is a wste of time, why are you persisting?
[00:53] <LegoDaniel> Good question.
[00:53] <LegoDaniel> MAybe stubborn.  lol
[00:53] <LegoDaniel> This is the error I get:
[00:53] <LegoDaniel> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE).
[00:53] <andyt> hey what about me? I like linux
[00:53] <neville_> Head back to Windows then, since it needs no configuration.
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> LegoDaniel- did you try starting it with sudo?
[00:54] <neville_> No
[00:54] <LegoDaniel> Yeah.  Same error
[00:54] <neville_> Can't you see it tells him exactly what he needs to do?
[00:55] <LegoDaniel> I don't understand what it means or where to find what it needs.
[00:56] <andyt> does anyone know why I the above error
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> LegoDaniel- what does ls -al /dev/vboxdrv say?
[00:56] <andyt> I m not disn linux just anoob
[00:57] <LegoDaniel> crw-rw---- 1 root vboxusers 10, 62 2008-05-10 19:47 /dev/vboxdrv
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> LegoDaniel- I would think that running it with sudo would work. I guess you can try adding your user to the vboxusers group and see if that does it
[00:59] <LegoDaniel> Where do I find the vboxusers group?
[00:59] <LegoDaniel> The file vboxdrv cannot be loaded.
[00:59] <andyt> can anyone please tell me how to restart mediamanager?
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> LegoDaniel- System Settings -> User Management, add vboxusers to the list of secondary groups
[01:02] <andyt> can anyone please tell me how to restart mediamanager?
[01:08] <_crash_> awfully quiet in here
[01:09] <andyt> why do I get the error mediamanger is not running on the second time i look at files on a cd?
[01:11] <andyt> first look ok, 2nd look kde mediamanager is not running , can't even find my mediamanager
[01:12] <andyt> anyone?
[01:12] <andyt> please
[01:12] <_crash_> Id help if I could man
[01:12] <_crash_> sorry
[01:14] <andyt> thanx anyway crash, but out of 324 poeple sombodys got to know
[01:15] <andyt> isn't this a channel for kubuntu help?
[01:16] <genii> andyt: Yes it is. But the quality of help you receive depends on who may be present that could know a solution to your specific issue
[01:16] <SlimeyPete> not all of those 324 people will be watching the channel
[01:16] <SlimeyPete> a lot of us are in here 24/7 but aren't always watching
[01:16] <andyt> did not know that new to the irc thing
[01:17] <SlimeyPete> :)
[01:19] <andyt> so no one has had this error but me? Does anyone know how to restart mm w/o reboot?
[01:19] <andyt> rebooting on every data source is a real pain
[01:19] <nohelphere> IM TIRED OF ^THIS ERROR FROM DOLPHIN The desktop entry file
[01:19] <nohelphere> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[01:19] <nohelphere> has an invalid menu entry
[01:19] <nohelphere> addAsPodcast.
[01:20] <andyt> should i stop using dolphin?
[01:21] <andyt> I don't know what nohelp was saying
[01:21] <nohelphere> The desktop entry file
[01:21] <nohelphere> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[01:21] <nohelphere> has an invalid menu entry
[01:21] <nohelphere> addAsPodcast.
[01:22] <SlimeyPete> andyt: I don't think he's talking to you
[01:22] <andyt> oooo
[01:22] <andyt> ok known bug then?
[01:23] <nohelphere> The desktop entry file
[01:23] <nohelphere> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[01:23] <nohelphere> has an invalid menu entry
[01:23] <nohelphere> addAsPodcast.
[01:23] <nohelphere> is that a known bug?
[01:24] <nohelphere> i remove damarok
[01:24] <andyt> what
[01:26] <nohelphere> %s
[01:26] <nohelphere> err
[01:26] <nohelphere> an error from dolphin
[01:26] <_crash_> Previsouly, On Battlestar Galactica
[01:26] <andyt> scuse me im still a noob
[01:27] <Armagguedes> just get rid of Dolphin/D3lphin
[01:27] <Armagguedes> it's bollocks
[01:27] <Armagguedes> install Krusader instead
[01:27] <Armagguedes> (or use Konqueror)
[01:28] <andyt> ok so dolphin is the problem
[01:30] <andyt> thanx for the help
[01:32] <nohelphere> ill rmeov edolphin
[01:35] <andyt> i removed dolphin konqueor gives the same message ,mm not running do I need a reboot?
[01:35] <Walzmyn> I sure do wish I could stay connected.
[01:44] <iceolate> anyone know a proxy address? i cant use http at the moment... need to update a package or two
[01:45] <Walzmyn> iceolate, sorry, i don't
[01:46] <iceolate> walzmyn: cheers
[02:10] <pulaski> Hello, I just updated from gutsy 7.10 to hardy heron 8.4 and as sudo I moved a file from my Desktop to /etc/apt.  Unforunately I moved my Desktop directory to /etc/apt.  When I moved it back to ~/ it now shows all the contents of home.  When I ls ~/Desktop it displays all the files I orignially had there. When I check right click Configure Desktop there is no option I can turn off so it only displays the contents of ~/Desktop
[02:10] <pulaski> as before.  Does anyone have any ideas how I can fix my Desktop display to only show the contents of ~/Desktop?
[02:12] <Firefishe> gads pulaski..what a faux pas that was ;) hee
[02:12] <Firefishe> let me think
[02:12] <Firefishe> for a moment
[02:13] <edgar_> hi
[02:13] <Firefishe> hi edgar
[02:13] <pulaski> thanks Firefishe, it is a hassle.
[02:15] <Firefishe> let's see.
[02:15] <Firefishe> did you do this on CLI?
[02:15] <pulaski> no a in an xterm
[02:15] <Firefishe> Command Line Interface
[02:15] <Firefishe> ;)
[02:15] <Firefishe> I should've just said xterm
[02:16] <pulaski> no worries you know six of one ....
[02:16] <edgar_> alguien sabe q paso kubuntu-es
[02:16] <Firefishe> what directory were you in when you moved the file?
[02:16] <Firefishe> six of one...nope.
[02:16] <pulaski> I was in /etc/apt
[02:16] <Firefishe> so you did a:  cd /etc/apt
[02:17] <Firefishe> is that correct?
[02:19] <pulaski> I was in /etc/apt and wanted to type 'sudo mv ~/Destop default_hardy_sources.list .' but I it looks like I may have typed something else but that seems unlikely.
[02:19] <Firefishe> Firefishe used to have Debian on his snow skis, but the gtk+ bindings in /boot failed, and he had to reinstall, but it was all downhill from there.
[02:20] <Firefishe> sudo mv ~/Desktop/<filename> /etc/apt should've done the trick
[02:20] <Firefishe> if you forgot the trailing / you may have nixxed it
[02:21] <pulaski> hmmm
[02:21] <Firefishe> as in:   sudo mv ~/Desktop <filename> ...
[02:21] <Firefishe> it may have truncated the filename, and just moved the entire directory
[02:22] <Firefishe> Whereas:    sudo mv ~/Desktop/<filename> /etc/apt    would have worked
[02:22] <Firefishe> now, what to do to get you back
[02:22] <Firefishe> do you still have the xterm up?
[02:22] <pulaski> yes I was typing with abandon which is never a good idea as sudo.  Well its not exactly as I preferred but I suppose I can live with it.
[02:22] <pulaski> sure
[02:23] <pulaski> Oh wait not the original
[02:23] <Firefishe> can you scroll back through the command list, and /query me and paste it so I can look at it?
[02:23] <Firefishe> oh well
[02:23] <Firefishe> although
[02:23] <pulaski> I even rebooted to I can't check the history can I?
[02:23] <Firefishe> the buffer may be there
[02:23] <Firefishe> ouch
[02:23] <Firefishe> it may be there
[02:24] <Firefishe> I don't use xterms, though.  I prefer Konsole.
[02:24] <pulaski> yeah the buffer is still there.  Just as I reported above.
[02:25] <Firefishe> scroll up and through it..copy each and every command from the first time you moved, in the order of completion.  Then paste the entire thing into a text file, copy it, and you may /query me and paste it there.
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Hallo
[02:26] <DaSkreech> can someone help me sort out my sound dev files?
[02:26] <Haemogoblin> hello
[02:26] <DaSkreech> I have some sound issues I >think< can be traced to my dev folder
[02:26] <pulaski> oh I just noticed Firefishe I omitted the / between ~/Desktop and <filename> that was my original mistake.
[02:27] <Haemogoblin> Talking of sound, can one recommend a low resource mp3 player
[02:27] <Firefishe> pulaski: aha!  we know what the culprit was
[02:28] <Haemogoblin> Amarok seems to have trouble reading some of my mp3's
[02:28] <Firefishe> pulaski: go back slooooowly through and piece it together in your mind...what, pray tell, happened to the rest of the desktop?
[02:28] <pulaski> I'm looking at the history and I see nothing that I didn't do correctly.
[02:28]  * DaSkreech gently taps crimsun if he has some time
[02:28] <pulaski> except my original mistake.
[02:30] <pulaski> Firefishe, its only about twenty lines or so, I doubt it would serve any purpose.
[02:30] <Firefishe> pulaski: sometimes 20 lines can make a 30,000 piece of software work better ;)
[02:30] <Firefishe> I leave it up to you
[02:30] <Firefishe> 30,000 line that is
[02:30] <pulaski> Haemogoblin try xmm
[02:31] <pulaski> lol Firefishe
[02:32] <Firefishe> pulaski...go ahead and paste it, I may be able to see something missed.
[02:32] <Firefishe> just not here.../query me
[02:33] <pulaski> sure I'll paste it stand by please
[02:34]  * Firefishe stands by a large, papier mache' tux
[02:35] <pulaski> here you go Firefishe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11348/
[02:36] <Firefishe> k pulaski..let's take a lookiee
[02:39] <Firefishe> pulaski:  what's with the . at the end of the first line?
[02:39] <Firefishe> also, I see you don't use absolute pathnames
[02:40] <pulaski> . copies or moves to the current dir, sometimes I do sometimes not, mostly between ~/ or ~/Desktop only.
[02:41] <Firefishe> so you wanted to move /home/<yourname>/Desktop to .  ?
[02:42] <Firefishe> oh
[02:42] <Firefishe> nm
[02:42] <Firefishe> not seeing the prompt directory you are in, it's hard to visualize
[02:42] <Firefishe> I get it
[02:42] <pulaski> Firefishe: is was in /etc/apt and I wanted to move ~/Desktop/<filename> to /etc/apt
[02:42] <Firefishe> gotcha
[02:42] <Firefishe> got that now
[02:42] <Firefishe> *bonk*
[02:43] <pulaski> yes sorry I omitted that part
[02:43] <sarah> Does anyone here have Amarok?
[02:44] <sarah> I started mine once... it crashed... so I restarted... it crashed again... and now it won't start.
[02:44] <Firefishe> Amarok...*grumble*
[02:44] <sarah> Anyone?  Anyone at all?
[02:45] <Firefishe> sarah
[02:45] <Firefishe> That thing has crashed my system twice this week
[02:45] <sarah> You didn't really like it, Firefishe?  aaaah, that's a shame
[02:45] <Firefishe> Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty
[02:45] <sarah> it was so cool before it crashed
[02:45] <pulaski> Well Firefishe I've taken up do much of your time.  I appreciate your response.  I imagine I'll live with it or eventually find a solution.  I hope hardy heron works out well enough, I wouldn't like to have to downgrade back to gutsy.
[02:45] <Firefishe> I love it
[02:45]  * BonesolTeraDyne uses Exaile
[02:45] <Firefishe> pulaski: no time at all, I'm here until the cafe' closes at eleven central :) hee
[02:45] <Firefishe> no worries
[02:45] <Armagguedes> i use heavily Amarok
[02:45]  * DaSkreech has Neon
[02:45] <sarah> Mine's Hardy Heron... not 100% of the release number, I'm new to this Linux stuff
[02:45] <DaSkreech> does that count?
[02:45] <Armagguedes> on Hardy, fully updated
[02:45] <Armagguedes> no probs
[02:45] <DaSkreech> sarah: Welcome to Linux!!!
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Welcome to Kubuntu
[02:46] <Firefishe> Welcome :)))
[02:46] <Firefishe> indeed
[02:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> welcome
[02:46] <sarah> Neon's Amaroks' sister program, isn't it?  Like it's beta version or something?
[02:46] <Armagguedes> bemvinda =)
[02:46]  * Firefishe does a Boy Scout Round of Applause (claps his hands and moves them around in a circle)
[02:46] <sarah> aww, thanks... I like it more than Windows, I can say that much
[02:46] <Armagguedes> beta for the upcoming version 2
[02:46] <Firefishe> sarah:  my amarok experience was weird.
[02:47] <sarah> So yeah... no one's Amarok works quite right then?
[02:47] <Firefishe> I was playing an .ogg file from the NTFS/WinXP side of the drive.  The song got to a certain point, then the entire system started to stop...
[02:47] <DaSkreech> It's amarok snapshots of where it was last night
[02:47] <sarah> yeah, that sounds like me
[02:47] <sarah> I'm not sure if it just hates Porcupine Tree or what...
[02:48] <Firefishe> I had to do a CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to get to a console, and I saw some weird NTFS file error message that repeated, almost like the file system structure was corrupted
[02:48] <DaSkreech> I'll assume thats a band and not a tea plant
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Bye Sarah
[02:48] <Armagguedes> i would be an interesting tree
[02:48] <DaSkreech> Yeah :)
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Harvest time should be televised
[02:49] <pooli> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu 8.04 right now. I can mount other filesystems, however owner of all files on these filesystems is root (ext3). Is this a bug? Thanks
[02:49] <andyt> twisted roots?
[02:49] <sarah> So... Ctrl-Alt-Backspace goes to the log-in for me
[02:50] <sarah> :S  I'm not sure... I'm just going to try another media player, seems like there's a few dozen
[02:50] <Firefishe> DaSkreech:   What would cause amarok to do that, get to a certain portion of an .ogg song on the windows side (NTFS) whilst being played on amarok on the kubuntu side, then have that weird file access error?
[02:50] <sarah> any recommendations?
[02:50] <Firefishe> xmms
[02:50] <Firefishe> Rhythmbox
[02:50] <Armagguedes> some kubuntu's ago i had similar problems
[02:50] <Armagguedes> consistent crashes
[02:50] <Firefishe> really Armagguedes?
[02:50] <Armagguedes> all the time
[02:51] <Firefishe> with Amarok?
[02:51] <sarah> Ah, I already have Rhythmbox... never came to me to try it, LOL
[02:51] <Armagguedes> iirc it was amarok
[02:51] <sarah> Does Kaffiene work well?  It's also installed on here
[02:51] <Firefishe> Armagguedes: How does Kubuntu mount the win drive on dual boot systems, anyway?
[02:51] <DaSkreech> sarah: I'm almost sure Firefishe meant alt+ctrl+F1 (you use Alt+ctrl+F7) to get back to GUI
[02:51] <Armagguedes> reading off a 3rd partition (1st was xp/ntsf 2nd was kubuntu/ext3 and 3rd was share/ext3)
[02:52] <Armagguedes> pure reinstall solved it
[02:52] <DaSkreech> pooli: I don't think so you mounted them as root
[02:52] <pooli> When I mount it from Dolphin and try to enter to mount point it shows "Could not enter folder /media/disk". Permissions on mount points in media are set to root. I know I can change it, but I don't want to do big hacks, I hope there is another more intuitive way... (and I want to preserve permissions on my ext3 fs)
[02:52] <Armagguedes> and the CD was ok too
[02:52] <pooli> DaSkreech: no, i didn;t
[02:52] <Armagguedes> during install i used the manual partiitoner
[02:52] <pooli> DaSkreech: But permissions on these files and on mount point are set to root
[02:52] <Armagguedes> and just mounted the windows partition as /windows/ (so, under root- / )
[02:52] <DaSkreech> sarah: Yeah Kaffiene is more a video player but it does a decent job
[02:52] <Mr_Sonoma> I have a xp box set up to be the home for my printer, my wife's vista machine found the printer without issue but on Hardy when i go to System Settings > Printers > Add > Add Printer > SMB Shared Printer then hit the "scan" button to scan the network I only see the Hardy machine. But if i go to Remote Places from the "System Menu" I can see all 3 machines  (the xp box, vista box and this box) what am i doing wrong? tips on setting up a win
[02:52] <Mr_Sonoma> dows hosted printer using the graphical tool?
[02:52] <sarah> Ahhh, sweet, I've got my Porcupine Tree back... thanks ya'll!
[02:52] <Firefishe> DaSkreech: No, I meant backspace...I just wanted to kill the xserver and start over, but I couldn't get back to the GUI.  cmd-alt-f7 took me to where the gui used to be, but it had that weird error that repeated
[02:52] <Armagguedes> and just accessed stuff from there
[02:53] <sarah> I'll have to remember to use Konversation next time I need something I can't find
[02:53] <DaSkreech> sarah: For your info Alt+Ctrl+Backspace restarts the X server so it logs you out of the graphical interface and restarts it
[02:54] <DaSkreech> pooli: You don't have to force premissions change you can mount it with umask=0022 in the fstab
[02:54] <pooli> DaSkreech: Oh, ok... thank you. So do you think that this is bug ?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> Not a bug. Perhaps an oversight
[02:55]  * NeoCortex throws flasks at crashev 
[02:55]  * NeoCortex throws flasks at CrashBandicoot even
[02:55] <skooli> I have some issues with kubuntu: x-server is totally broken, only shows fancy colors. tried 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, live cds aswell as alternate cds with a full install, its the same every time. screen looks like this -> http://images.voric.com/files/IMG_0254_m0fp1.JPG
[02:56] <NeoCortex> pooli: Check if it's mentioned in the bugs database and add your vote to it
[02:56] <CrashBandicoot> ow
[02:56] <CrashBandicoot> what the hell
[02:56] <skooli> is anything like that known to have happened before?
[02:56] <CrashBandicoot> that was my dome man
[02:56] <pooli> NeoCortex: I already did it... currently no post
[02:56] <NeoCortex> pooli: Post one then
[02:56] <pooli> ok
[02:56] <NeoCortex> skooli: I'll assume you tried safe graphics mode ?
[02:58] <ubuntu> Hello
[02:58] <Firefishe> hello
[02:58] <pooli> NeoCortex: I remember that in 7.10 the owner was root and group was plugdev. Now group is set to root too.
[02:58] <CrashBandicoot> ubuntu: type /nick YourName
[02:58] <SuddenCorrupt> Sup
[02:58] <Firefishe> skooli:  I've had similar issues with certain displays
[02:58] <NeoCortex> pooli: Hmm that might be it...
[02:58] <skooli> uhm :x sort of not so much, but the default created xorg.conf is empty for the important parts (changing to a console works)
[02:58] <Firefishe> skooli: often it's adapter compatibility
[02:58] <skooli> will try that though
[02:58] <SuddenCorrupt> Anyone a hacker :O
[02:58] <Firefishe> what a q.
[02:58] <Firefishe> lol
[02:58] <skooli> how can i solve that, Firefishe?
[02:58] <NeoCortex> skooli: Yeah New X with no COnf file
[02:59] <CrashBandicoot> *cough cough*
[02:59] <SuddenCorrupt> lol
[02:59] <CrashBandicoot> Im ahcin
[02:59] <NeoCortex> SuddenCorrupt: Yes
[02:59] <SuddenCorrupt> Yeah
[02:59] <Firefishe> skooli...what version of x?  x.org or xfree86?
[02:59] <SuddenCorrupt> suddencorrupt@hotmail.com
[02:59] <SuddenCorrupt> Ye^^
[02:59] <SuddenCorrupt> Anyone who how I can get sound? I have an intel sound card, no sound on kubuntu
[02:59] <skooli> i dont know exactly, used the versions as mentioned above
[03:00] <Firefishe> skooli:  sorry, let me look up
[03:00] <NeoCortex> !sound
[03:00] <Kiry> suddencorrupt, I have the same problem once I updated my laptop to kubuntu 8.04
[03:00] <Firefishe> skooli:  can you use a console graphics setup tool?
[03:00] <Kiry> haven't been able to fix it since the update
[03:00] <skooli> i have a working shell, yes
[03:00] <NeoCortex> skooli: on the Live CD when it starts up choose safe graphics mode
[03:01] <Firefishe> skooli:  as in:   sudo apt-reconfigure x.org   (people, is this right or am I shooting blanks?
[03:01] <SuddenCorrupt> Hmm
[03:01] <DaSkreech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:01] <SuddenCorrupt> Its checked off
[03:01] <Firefishe> thanks DaSkreech..it's been so bloody long...time to get back to the console
[03:01] <DaSkreech> Firefishe: Alt+ctrl+BkSpc? :)
[03:02] <Firefishe> LOL
[03:02] <CrashBandicoot> my console broke
[03:02] <CrashBandicoot> so I have to use Konsole!
[03:02] <SuddenCorrupt> NeoCortex: suddencorrupt@hotmail.com add me ;)
[03:02] <Firefishe> DaSkreech:   I need to spend tomorrow RFMT'ing again
[03:02] <Firefishe> *duck*
[03:02] <skooli> what can i do if safemode works, NeoCortex?
[03:02] <CrashBandicoot> lol DaSkreech: IT'S A TRAP!
[03:03] <CrashBandicoot> DONT BE AN HERO!
[03:03] <Firefishe> An???  Gads, it's....The Determiner!
[03:03] <SuddenCorrupt> Anyone here a developer
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[03:03] <SuddenCorrupt> Cause kde rules
[03:03] <SuddenCorrupt> :)
[03:03] <DaSkreech> SuddenCorrupt: Please ask a support question or get to your point
[03:04] <SuddenCorrupt> I have no sound
[03:04] <Firefishe> skooli:  do what DaSkreech said:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from a console prompt, and reconfigure your card.
[03:04] <SuddenCorrupt> ok
[03:04] <skooli> okay
[03:04] <DaSkreech> !sound | SuddenCorrupt See if this helps
[03:04] <Firefishe> skooli:  I'd select something not too heavy, or just use fbdev
[03:04] <skooli> thanks for now, i'll be back (or hopefully not)
[03:05] <Firefishe> Framebuffer Device
[03:05] <Firefishe> just fyi
[03:05] <skooli> k
[03:06] <Firefishe> brb for a bit
[03:21] <adrock358> I have a question for you guys
[03:21] <flaccid> !ask
[03:22] <skooli> ok, following situation: i got hardy installed, booting the hardy live disc in graphic safe mode works. how can i proceed to get the installed version to work? i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org and tried several drivers, but the result was always the same (funny screen as beofre)
[03:22] <flaccid> :o
[03:22] <skooli> for what its worth, im new to this
[03:23] <adrock358> is there such a device that allows you to hook up an external power source to your laptop?  Something that allows you to plug a power cord INTO your laptop?  THrough pcmcia or usb or something other?
[03:23] <neville_> skooli sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then change your video driver to vesa with sudp dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:23] <adrock358> skooli.  what happened?  hardi isn't working for you?
[03:24] <skooli> posted a screenshot above what my screen shows, dont have the link right now
[03:24] <dennister> ok channel...this new cifs is giving me a real rash here...has anyone got it working so samba shares mount at boot?
[03:24] <skooli> i will try that, thanks neville_
[03:25] <dennister> nowhere can i find any idea as to what the error codes mean
[03:25] <neville_> I get the same problem with the nv driver on my 6600GT (or so it seems)
[03:27] <adrock358> lola
[03:28] <adrock358> bla bla bla
[03:28] <skooli> you are my superhero neville_
[03:28] <neville_> it worked?
[03:28] <skooli> beatufilly
[03:28] <skooli> yay
[03:28] <neville_> okay, so that means you just forgot to restart X
[03:29] <skooli> excuse me?
[03:29] <neville_> before, when it didn't work
[03:29] <skooli> yes?
[03:29] <skooli> booted several times, never worked
[03:30] <neville_> And when you tried different drivers, and still no dice
[03:30] <skooli> didnt try vesa
[03:30] <skooli> that list is quite long
[03:30] <dennister> has anyone got cifs to work at all?
[03:30] <neville_> yeah, tell me about it
[03:31] <neville_> but that's a good thing!!
[03:33] <skooli> next task: getting dual monitor to work
[03:34] <neville_> which video card?
[03:34] <skooli> 7900gtx
[03:34] <neville_> i think nvidia settings can help you set it up
[03:38] <DaSkreech> skooli: http://images.voric.com/files/IMG_0254_m0fp1.JPG
[03:38] <neville_> yeah, it's pretty, eh DaSkreech? :P
[03:38] <DaSkreech> neville_: that's skooli's monitor
[03:38] <DaSkreech> !twinview
[03:38] <neville_> i know, I saw it before
[03:39] <DaSkreech> !dualhead
[03:39] <jonj20> hey
[03:39] <DaSkreech> This is annoying
[03:39] <DaSkreech> I have sound but no sound card
[03:39] <edgar_> hi
[03:40] <jonj20> wats up
[03:40] <skooli> thats fixed now, DaSkreech
[03:40] <DaSkreech> hi jonj20 and edgar_
[03:40] <jonj20> hi
[03:40] <skooli> and currently im fiddling with the normal kde system settings to set up dual monitor
[03:40] <skooli> and it seems to be capable of doing all i want
[03:40] <skooli> right now at least
[03:46] <Firefishe> skooli: Ya get the monitor working?
[03:46] <Firefishe> I mean X?
[03:46] <skooli> yes
[03:46] <Firefishe> great! :)
[03:47] <Firefishe> what'd ya do?  the vesa t hing?
[03:47] <skooli> yes, dpkg-reconf and then vesa as driver
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Yay vesa
[03:48]  * Firefishe dreams of a linux gaming lappie
[03:48] <neville_> good work skooli, make a note of what you did too, for future reference
[03:48] <Firefishe> yep, skooli, good work that
[03:49] <DaSkreech> neville_: praise wisdom
[03:49] <DaSkreech> can't tell you how many times I fixed something and swore man that took me two weeks I'm sure to remember
[03:50] <Firefishe> Write It Down
[03:50] <Firefishe> ;)
[03:50] <DaSkreech> 3 years later when I finally do a reinstall and it breaks.
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Ummm Wait... didn't I do this already? DOh!!!
[03:50] <DaSkreech> That's the worse benefit of Linux. It works and does what you tell it to do
[03:50] <DaSkreech> WOrst
[03:50] <Firefishe> $ gedit ~/my_foolish_way_and_how_I_overcame_them.txt
[03:50] <Firefishe> ;)
[03:50] <Firefishe> ways
[03:51]  * Firefishe so wants to learn coding, shells scripting, even dreams of being a linux professional one day...*sigh*
[03:51] <Firefishe> shell
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Firefishe: Ha ha :) Cmon Let the hardware take *some* blame
[03:51] <DaSkreech> !bash
[03:52]  * Firefishe the 42 year old wannabe nerd ;0) LOL
[03:53] <DaSkreech> Firefishe: Sounds Good. Lets make a Movie!
[03:54] <Firefishe> heh
[03:54] <Firefishe> DIVX format DVD of course ;) hee
[03:54] <Firefishe> no regional coding
[03:55] <Firefishe> $9.99, we sell a billion or so.  who says open formats can't make you rich LOL
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Apple
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Wait they use h.264 don't they?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> ahmm
[03:56] <Firefishe> DaSkreech: I need to bone up on my open video formats.
[03:57]  * DaSkreech nods like he understands
[04:06] <jmichaelx> is anyone else just experiencing random temporary freezes in hardy?
[04:08] <Nyad> its football dude, not soccer
[04:17] <ganryumvp> i can't get video to work on my kubuntu 8.04 install. lspci lists it as a VIA S3 Unichrome but everytime i "startx" it fatal errors with "no screens found". video works on kubuntu live cd-boot though. no differences in xorg.conf between them. any ideas?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> Via has always caused problems. :() Odd that theres no diff in the xorgs'   Guess its an issue with the auto-configuring-X in hardy.
[04:24] <ganryumvp> yeah it's a strumpet of a card but i was hoping to make it work anyway :(
[04:27] <jason_> Hi. I have just installed my new kubuntu hardy and the restricted driver manager popped up and asked me If I want them, but I want to use the opensource drivers. are they automatically being used and how do they compare to the proprietary version?
[04:28] <Dr_willis> depends on the devices.
[04:30] <jason_> 8800GT
[04:31] <jason_> nvidia
[04:31] <pabloncho> wensa
[04:32] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: due to something?
[04:33] <DaSkreech> ganryumvp: Tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[04:34] <pabloncho> DaS
[04:34] <Dr_willis> for optimal 3d speeds and ussage you will want to use the nvidia restricted drivers
[04:34] <Dr_willis> but if you are just doing normal 'work' it proberly wont matter much
[04:34] <DaSkreech> ATI opensource stuff is getting up to snuff?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  Not that ive heard of.  They made a big deal about it. then dident seem to be much in the news about them lately
[04:36] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I have an annoyance
[04:36] <ganryumvp> how do you force X to auto-configure xorg.conf ? my xorg.conf has no real info in it other than Identifiers so maybe that's why my VIA Unichrome refuses to work?
[04:36] <_2> !reconfigure
[04:37] <_2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:37] <ganryumvp> _2: ty sir
[04:37] <_2> and X does not configure xorg.conf   dpkg does.
[04:37] <_2> welcome
[04:38] <_2> !dpkg
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I have sound but apparently no sound card :)
[04:38] <_2> hmm DaSkreech i have a sound card but no sound.   ;/
[04:41] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:41] <DaSkreech> _2: upgraded to Hardy ?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I bet its that Pulse Audio stuff! your sound is going to his computer!
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Hooray Network transparency :)
[04:41] <dwidmann_laptop> lol
[04:42] <_2> DaSkreech no.   just recovered from a total borked
[04:43] <DaSkreech> _2: Fresh install?
[04:43] <_2> Dr_willis hehhe
[04:43] <dwidmann_laptop> _2: so you've upgraded to an only partially borked install. That's at least somewhat of an improvement
[04:43] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Do you have a /dev/sequencer or a /dev/snd/seq ?
[04:43] <_2> DaSkreech ummm 3 years old..  fresh
[04:43] <DaSkreech> _2: ha ha :)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  Yes..I have both. :)
[04:44] <_2> dwidmann_laptop lol   no.  it was fine   then i pluged an M$ cd in and booted it....  it ate my hda thinking it was empty
[04:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> hardy upgrades make baby (insert deity or prophet of choice) cry.
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Ah Bloody...
[04:44] <DaSkreech> how do I get them?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> no idea on that.
[04:45] <dwidmann_laptop> _2: poor you
[04:45] <Dr_willis> This is on my laptop
[04:45]  * dwidmann_laptop inserts Linus Torvalds
[04:45] <_2> dwidmann_laptop i think not.    i recovered from partition/format to partitionless with only a very few files lost.
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Ok well most games (Haven't installed too many) mplayer and flash all play sound
[04:46]  * BonesolTeraDyne watches as Linux explodes
[04:46] <_2> actually i think i handeled it quite well.
[04:46] <DaSkreech> One game crashes saying no /dev/sequencer or dev/snd/seq found
[04:46] <DaSkreech> and nothing in KDE plays sound
[04:46] <Dr_willis> what game is this?
[04:46] <DaSkreech> allacrost
[04:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> Sounds like arts problems. I had that problem with Ut2K4, and had to kill "artsd" to make it work
[04:47] <_2> unfortunately, i'll be back.   ;/
[04:50] <DaSkreech> BonesolTeraDyne: Hmm
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Well another thing is that under sound in System Settings I have no hardware info at all
[04:51] <BonesolTeraDyne> O_o; That's never a good thing.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> BonesolTeraDyne: Esp when I've been listening to Music for months
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Just didn't occur to me that I have no other sounds
[04:53] <_2> and it looks like having restored linux made (hd1,0) unbootable
[04:54]  * _2 can't figure out why he is playing with partitions anyway....
[04:54] <BonesolTeraDyne> because it's fun?
[04:54] <_2> oh i found out what happened to the fs yestergo  when it misteriously crapped out.     "grub"
[04:55]  * BonesolTeraDyne bangs head against desk
[04:55] <_2> seems you can't have grub and an ext2fs on the same disk
[04:55] <BonesolTeraDyne> I just don't get iptables...
[04:55] <McRib> Is there any way to copy all the music files from my Amarok playlist into a new directory?  As in, copy the actual .MP3/.FLAC files to a new folder, leaving the originals alone?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> McRib: Eh?
[04:56] <_2> McRib know the base dir ?    you could use a find function
[04:56] <McRib> DaSkreech:  I have a playlist of some hundred files... I want to run mp3gain on them, but they're all organized in separate directories.  So I wanted to copy them all to a single directory without having to do each one manually.
[04:57] <_2> McRib example.   find /some/starting/point/ -iname *.mp3 -exec cp '{}' /new/path \;
[04:57] <McRib> _2: Unfortunately, my collection is over 2,000 songs strong.  All with the .mp3 extension.  Find wouldn't quite help me here.
[04:57] <_2> why not ?
[04:58] <McRib> _2: Because I would still need to enter each individual filename.
[04:58] <_2> no
[04:58] <McRib> _2: I have all the songs I want in my Amarok playlist already...
[04:58] <_2> you obviously don't understand what the example does.
[04:58] <_2> and you could feed the filenames from a file if you wanted.   but i'll hush.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> i wonder what format amarok saves the playlist in.
[04:59] <Dr_willis> thats the big issue.
[04:59] <_2> ascII isn't it ?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> McRib: The first thing would be to export the playlist to a file that can be read by a program
[04:59] <Dr_willis> I dont use it. so dont know. :)
[04:59] <McRib> _2: You're right, I don't... but I see the *mp3 and assume that would find every mp3 files under /starting/point, right?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's in the database but fairly certain you can export it as a file m3u or suck
[04:59] <DaSkreech> such
[05:00] <_2> McRib unless you feed in the file names from a list.file   as noted
[05:00] <_2> DaSkreech it is a database ?   i thought it was ascII text fiel
[05:01] <McRib> _2: I realize I'm annoying you with not understanding, but I don't know HOW to feed a list of filenames from a file.
[05:01] <_2> file
[05:01] <McRib> DaSkreech, Dr_willis: It does export to .m3u, but it's hardly just a list of files.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> _2: I'm certain you can get it as such but the current playlist is in the database isn't it? do they make a tmp.playlist file somewhere?
[05:03] <McRib> Hmm... actually, if a line starts with #, don't most linux apps ignore it?
[05:04] <_2> McRib lets assume you can make a text file with the name desired.  (export or copy/paste even)   cat list.file | while read q ;do find /base/dir/ -iname "*$q*" -exec cp '{}' /some/place \; ;done       <<<< note that the wildcarded "*$q*"  could be more specific.  "*$q.mp3"  for instance.      you need to know exactly what you want and then just find a way to do it.
[05:05] <DaSkreech> McRib: Wouldn't expect it to be
[05:05] <_2> McRib shell will consider #whatever as a comment   but not all config files follow that standard.
[05:06] <sirmike1970md> hi all what is a good dvd playing prog for k
[05:06] <DaSkreech> _2: $q.[mMfF][pPlL][3aA][cC]
[05:06] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:06] <McRib> _2: Well, the .m3u file that I was able to export to DOES list the full path to each file... every other line is commented out.
[05:06] <DaSkreech> sirmike1970md: I like kaffiene
[05:06] <sirmike1970md> ok thx
[05:07] <_2> McRib then find is not even needed .   cat file.m3u | read q ;do cp "$q" /some/path ;done
[05:07] <DaSkreech> sirmike1970md: feel free to try out others though VLC, mplayer etc
[05:08] <sirmike1970md> gotcha
[05:08] <_2> !vlc
[05:08] <McRib> _2: Okay, I'll try that then.  thank you
[05:08] <_2> McRib welcome
[05:09] <McRib> _2: Hey... sweet :P
[05:09] <McRib> err...nevermind
[05:10] <_2> !cli | McRib
[05:10] <McRib> Ah... yeah, it worked, but errored on each commented line.
[05:10] <McRib> ...but not problems.
[05:10] <_2> append 2>/dev/null   to stop that from happening
[05:11] <_2> a shell loop can have output redirrected as well as the inner proccesses that it calles can.
[05:13] <_2> example    for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;done      <<< that will redirect all output to stderr  but       for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;done 2>/dev/null     <<<< that will squelch all error reporting...
[05:14] <_2> 1#  for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;ls ;done >/dev/null       2# for q in 1 2 3 ;do echo $q >&2 ;ls ;done 2>/dev/null            <<<< maybe a better example?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> slightly
[05:15] <DaSkreech> If the person has a clue what >&2 is :)
[05:15] <DaSkreech> ubuntu has joined #kubuntu
[05:15] <DaSkreech> If only :-(
[05:17] <_2> i dont' know.   i think i like the first post on that better.   easier for me to follow, thinking in terms of ignorances
[05:18] <DaSkreech> the second is a better example but only if you already know what you are trying to demonstrate :)
[05:19] <_2> McRib FFR   grep -v '#' file.m3u | read q ;do cp "$q" /some/path ;done          <<<< that would ignore the commented lines.
[05:19] <Nyad> !MD5
[05:20] <DaSkreech> _2: sure you don't want ^# ?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> j trac
[05:20] <_2> DaSkreech no.  if there is a # anywhere in the line cp will fail    so, no.
[05:21] <_2> or give bezar results...
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Might that not be preferable ?
[05:21] <_2> lol   no.
[05:22] <DaSkreech> so you know this entire album which was named in a retarded manner didn't get the treatment all ther rest of my cherished music did ?
[05:22] <McRib> _2: Ah... very nice.  Thank you.
[05:23] <McRib> heh... should I be suspicious when mp3gain applied a change of -5 to ALL my files? ;)
[05:24] <_2> supose the line had comments example: /path/to/file.mp3 #some genera, some class  <<<<  then the cp command becomes    cp "/path/to/file.mp3 #some genera, some class " /new/location      <<<< which obviously will fail and spew error messages all over the screen.    can't have that happening.
[05:24] <_2> McRib heh  maybe...
[05:25] <DaSkreech> _2: Right but that's unlikely in a m3u and if the actual file/path had a # in it I would want to know
[05:25] <McRib> Oh well... thanks for you help, everyone.
[05:25] <DaSkreech> McRib: slightly less live recordings of german headbangers ball ?
[05:26]  * DaSkreech still would like to sort out his No soundcard but sound thingy
[05:26] <McRib> hmm... no.  It's all mellow music I'm going to be using at work for background music at a Mother's Day brunch ;)
[05:26] <_2> DaSkreech well like i first posted   .* ;done 2>/dev/null      and who care what errored, the user didn't see it... :)
[05:26] <DaSkreech> _2: erroring and failing are two different things
[05:27] <McRib> DaSkreech: Well, the cp didn't fail, it errored :P
[05:27] <_2> DaSkreech you say you have sound but no soundcard ?   does   lshw -C multimedia     list the card/chipset ?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> McRib: I know it would :)
[05:28] <DaSkreech> _2: Yep
[05:28] <DaSkreech> and mplayer/flash etc all have sound
[05:29] <DaSkreech> nothing in KDE4
[05:29] <DaSkreech> and at least one game freaks about there being no sound device
[05:29] <_2> ok.  then how did you come to the conclsion that you had "sound but no sound card"?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> with System Settings -> Sound listing my sound engines but no hardware to play them on
[05:30] <DaSkreech> _2: One or two apps complaining of such
[05:30] <_2> oh pfft system settings
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Yeah I'm not so worried by that :)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> and I guess I've gotten used to a fully silent KDE
[05:30] <_2> :)
[05:31] <DaSkreech> but so far everyone seems to have a /dev/sequencer and I don't
[05:31] <dwayne> How can i setup a printer that is on a network printserver. the printer is not listed in setup printers
[05:31] <DaSkreech> so I wanna know if that's a some quirk of my hardware or if there something that I can do about that
[05:31] <_2> umm i don't think i do.   only /dev/snd/sequencer
[05:31] <DaSkreech> i don't have that either
[05:31] <_2> you do have /dev/snd/  ?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Yes
[05:32] <DaSkreech> control* pcm* and timer
[05:32] <_2> isn't sequencer used for midi ?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Yep
[05:33] <_2> you have timidity   or what ever it's called   installed ?
[05:33] <cybergroup> any noes good music creator for ubuntu 8 64bit
[05:33] <DaSkreech> I do now
[05:33] <DaSkreech> cybergroup: try #mediubuntu
[05:34] <cybergroup> ok ill tryt
[05:34] <cybergroup> no one on that channel lmao
[05:34] <_2> DaSkreech ummm look on the page for setting up midi playback
[05:34] <_2> !midi
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !medibuntu
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[05:34] <DaSkreech> cybergroup: #ubuntustufio sorry
[05:35] <DaSkreech> cybergroup: #ubuuntstudio of course
[05:35] <cybergroup> i got that installed but it onely work whit ampliyer and equalizer hardware
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Oh good grief
[05:35] <DaSkreech> #ubuntustudio
[05:35] <cybergroup> yea i want it to work whit out it
[05:36] <McRib> Hmm... for some reason now Amarok is telling me it can't copy files to my MP3 player because the "file is not playable on the device."  What's this supposed to mean?  They've been playable before...
[05:37] <DaSkreech> * Starting TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation...
[05:37] <DaSkreech> open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
 heh... should I be suspicious when mp3gain applied a change of -5 to ALL my files? ;) <<<< could that have anything to do with it ???
[05:37] <cybergroup> i think there are asleep >.<
[05:38] <DaSkreech> well
[05:38] <DaSkreech> !patience
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Also try them again tomorrow earlier. Unless you need that stuff sorted out tonight
[05:38] <McRib> _2: Yep... the originals copied just fine.... go figure. :P
[05:38] <cybergroup> basacly ya lol
[05:39] <McRib> _2: No... I lied.  The originals failed with the same error.
[05:39] <cahuez> hello..!
[05:39] <cahuez> where can i find> http://kubuntu.org/packages/libdvdcss-amd64.deb ..
[05:40] <_2> DaSkreech sudo mknod /dev/snd/seq c 116 1
[05:40] <dwayne> I have a HP deskjet D2445. It is connected to a network print server. Is there a compatble builtin driver for it ?
[05:40] <McRib> Oh, I had to let Amarok know that .ogg files were supported (I hope they are ) :P
[05:40] <_2> DaSkreech sudo modprobe snd-rawmidi
[05:41] <DaSkreech> _2: after or first?
[05:41] <_2> one more.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> !dvd | cahuez
[05:41] <McRib> Amarok does, however, continue to corrupt the hell out of all the tags.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> !hp
[05:41] <_2> DaSkreech sudo modprobe snd-seq-device
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Oh :(
[05:42] <_2> DaSkreech you may only need one of those  but i don't know which one will pull in the others
[05:42] <_2> then test it.
[05:42] <cahuez> ubottu, can it be useful just to play dvd's as before..!?
[05:42] <cahuez> checking...
[05:44] <cahuez> libdvdread3 looks like already installed..!
[05:45] <cahuez> and i have added the medibuntu ones too..
[05:45] <inteliwasp> i just noticed that there is no xmms on 8.04... does anyone have a good replacement that is still lightweight?
[05:46] <DaSkreech> beep ?
[05:46] <_2> vlc ?
[05:46] <cybergroup> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:46] <cahuez> inteliwasp, try apt-get install audacious ..
[05:47] <_2> light weight ?
[05:47] <cahuez> yeap, i have already installed vlc..
[05:47] <cahuez> yeap..
[05:47] <_2> oh it's audacity i thinking of   nm
[05:47] <DaSkreech> _2: well it plays :)
[05:47] <draik> What app can I use to move from one image to the next? I GIMP'd the same image a bit differently and want to create a *.gif from the different images being transformed into the next.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> _2: Should I drop the mknod into a startup script?
[05:47] <_2> DaSkreech you can add the module names to /etc/modules   and it should be static
[05:48] <_2> DaSkreech shouldn't need it next time.
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:48] <cahuez> audacious is the one, and looks and works like xmms and winamp..
[05:48] <dwayne> I have the printer working, Well it printed the test page.
[05:49] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Gimp ?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> dwayne: Great! how did you get it working /
[05:51] <_2> i'm going to work on my boot issue...     it's really a pain trying to setup this thing like i want it.
[05:51] <draik> !nvidia
[05:55] <draik> Is there an app to do something like what I want?
[05:57] <dwayne> Today is the first time I have accesed the internet w/kubuntu. got the wireless lan card to work. kubuntu has been installed for a week. Its been 10 years since I messed w/linux. Looks like it has come a loneway. It looks really good.
[05:59] <DaSkreech> So it took you 10 years to get the card to work!!!
[06:02] <cybergroup> hum guess wanst much help hehe
[06:12] <_2> howto remap a drive in "/boot/grub/menu.lst" ?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Remap?
[06:14] <_2> yes.   from 0x81 to 0x80 bios address
[06:16] <_2> nm i think i found it.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> wotsit?
[06:17] <_2>    map (hd0) (hd1)
[06:17] <_2>    map (hd1) (hd0)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> of course
[06:17] <Giant_Speck> I have a question if no one minds.  I'm on Kubuntu, and I recently reinstalled Firefox 2 after uninstalling the Firefox 3b5 that Hardy installed.  And now, for some reason, the settings I chose under "GTK Styles and Fonts" don't apply to Firefox anymore.
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Compiz ?
[06:18] <Giant_Speck> I have it installed and running.  However, when I had 3b5, the effects still applied regardless of whether or not Compiz was running.
[06:18] <Daisuke_Ido> i do believe the ff3b5 that comes with hardy comes with ubufox.  you may want to check that out
[06:19] <Giant_Speck> Does ubufox work with FF2?
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Giant_Speck: and which effects are you referring to?  buttons and such on pages and forms?
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> it should
[06:19] <Giant_Speck> I remember uninstalling it when I uninstalled FF3.
[06:19] <Giant_Speck> Yes. Those effects.
[06:19] <Giant_Speck> Those specific effects.
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because ff2 does not support gtk+ themes for page elements
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> that's new in ff3
[06:20] <_2> works.
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> and a long overdue inclusion
[06:20] <dwayne> how do i set myself up with a nick, for irc?
[06:20] <Giant_Speck> Aha.  See, I didn't know that.  I actually forgot whether or not FF2 supports them or not.
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Giant_Speck: no worries :)
[06:20] <_2> !nick
[06:20] <Giant_Speck> But I won't use FF3 until they support all of my addons.
[06:20] <_2> !register | dwayne
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not FF3 though, its the authors of the addons :)
[06:20] <Giant_Speck> I realize that.
[06:21] <Giant_Speck> I just didn't word it correctly.
[06:21] <Giant_Speck> lol
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> and there's actually an addon that will disable version checking for other addons
[06:21] <Daisuke_Ido> most still work just fine
[06:21] <Giant_Speck> Do you happen to remember the name of it?
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly
[06:23] <_2> oh nice io errors
[06:23] <Dr_willis> 'nightly tester tools' extension for firefox
[06:24] <Giant_Speck> Okay, then.  I will try to reinstall Firefox 3 and use that.
[06:24] <Giant_Speck> Thanks.
[06:29] <WillMc> Hello all
[06:29] <Dr_willis> !hi
[06:30] <WillMc> Just switched from Gnome.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I just install both kde and gnome. :)
[06:30] <Giant_Speck> Me, too. :)
[06:30] <Giant_Speck> But I never log into gnome.
[06:31] <WillMc> I want to do that. I only have 10 gb
[06:31]  * DaSkreech laughs
[06:31] <Dr_willis> theres a few gnome apps,m and settings tools i perfer over the kde variants
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Ah I remember getting a 1Gb drive and thinking what the heck am I going to do with all this?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <Giant_Speck> Mine is running on a 40GB partition.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> thats more space then ALL the floppies i have! :)
[06:31] <Giant_Speck> The other 100GB is Windows.
[06:31] <WillMc> My first storebought dell had a gig.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I got 10gb of just Wallpapers!
[06:32] <Giant_Speck> >.>
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Ha ha :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Lots of Floppies for that :)
[06:32] <WillMc> My windows machine has 250..I can network into :-)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I should make a wallpaper of a Floppy that can't fit on a Floppy ^_^
[06:32] <Giant_Speck> Punch cards. lol
[06:32] <Giant_Speck> HAHA
[06:32] <Giant_Speck> I make my own wallpapers.
[06:33] <xanni> Can anyone help with a printer problem?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> WillMc: Before I call OT on myself was there something you wanted to know?
[06:33] <WillMc> Commodore 64 1541,1581
[06:33] <DaSkreech> xanni: ask away
[06:33] <Dr_willis> stack of floppies --> hard drive -> stack of cd's -> bigger hd --> stacks of DVD's --> BIGGER hd's ---> now im up to stacks of usb-hard-drives... next will be stacks of Fileservers
[06:33] <_2> i have one box with ubuntu linux + kde + gnome + blackbox + fluxbox + twm (desktop environments) installed and it only has 4g hdd
[06:33] <xanni> I just upgraded my PPC Mac Mini from Kubuntu 6.06 to 8.04 and now my Samsung ML-1710 only prints blank pages
[06:34] <WillMc> Do you have to congif kmail before it shows in the menu?
[06:34] <TeslaTony> !adept
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Blu-Ray :)
[06:34] <Giant_Speck> My latest wallpaper: http://www.mediagraphixhq.com/forums/uploads/U282-1210484022.png
[06:34] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  im still waiting for DVD-DL media to get reasonable.
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Never will
[06:34] <DaSkreech> MPAA made sure of that
[06:35] <_2> WillMc no
[06:35] <DaSkreech> xanni: nice jump what was the experience like?
[06:35] <xanni> The foomatic driver dies with an error "rip failed", the ghostscript driver prints blank pages, and Samsung's own Linux driver doesn't support PPC
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Heck - every time i go to the stores now - the DVD movie section is smaller and smaller. and the Blueray section is larget and larget.
[06:35] <xanni> Well, going from LTS to LTS.  Not a good experience - 8.04 is good on x86, loads of bugs on PPC.
[06:35] <WillMc> I installed it. But I can't see it unless I run it in a window.
[06:35] <Giant_Speck> I'm officially happy with FF3 now.
[06:36] <_2> WillMc kmenuedit
[06:36] <xanni> At least flash almost works now.
[06:36] <Giant_Speck> Daisuke_Ido: Thank you very much for helping me.
[06:36] <WillMc> Ok..Thanks
[06:36] <DaSkreech> xanni: Yeah I thought that would be interesting
[06:37] <_2> if i had an internet connection, i'd be tempted to upgrade
[06:38] <xanni> I always had to custom compile stuff for PPC anyway, but it was getting harder and harder with the old libraries in 6.06
[06:38] <xanni> So, any ideas to make the printer work?
[06:38] <_2> it worked with 6.6 ?
[06:38] <xanni> Yes, worked fine.
[06:39] <_2> file a bug for starters
[06:39] <xanni> Obviously.  Probably one against foomatic and one against ghostscript, since they have different symptoms.
[06:40] <xanni> Just hoping to be able to print since my partner has some legal documents that have to get printed tomorrow.
[06:40] <xanni> Might have to hook the printer to an x86 machine and use network printing I guess...
[06:40] <WillMc> Thats what I did for my laser printer.
[06:41] <WillMc> It made life a whole lot easer.
[06:42] <_2> well i'm went.     gooday you persons.
[06:42]  * DaSkreech waves
[06:43] <xanni> Is it worth trying to backport newer versions of the printer driver?
[06:43] <DaSkreech> If they work
[06:44] <xanni> Well, hard to know without trying I guess!
[06:46] <xanni> What's the easiest way to backport?
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> Giant_Speck: you're welcome
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> and now i'm off to bed
[06:51] <DaSkreech> xanni: A driver? #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[06:51] <xanni> Well, ghostscript and/or foomatic
[06:51] <xanni> Thanks, I'll try there.
[06:59] <hypernewbie> hey, does anyone know how to disable screen font smoother for specific window/apps in KDE?
[07:00] <hypernewbie> like i dont want font smoother for 1 application
[07:03] <Dr_willis> hypernewbie,  dont think thats doeable.
[07:05] <hypernewbie> Dr_willis: :'(
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i cant even imagine why yoiu want to do so.
[07:05] <DaSkreech> hypernewbie: Not even cause of it not being a check box. As A technical feat I can't think of how taht would be done
[07:06] <mark__> I've a question concerning dvd playback.  I have just installed kubuntu hardy (32-bit) and have added the medibuntu repos.  I've installed libdvdcss2 along with dvdbackup.  I've backed up a DVD and used DVDShrink to compess it to a single-density DVD.  I can play the DVD on my home DVD player and under windows, but when I attempt to play it with vlc or kaeffine I get a message stating I need to instal libdvdcss (which I've already
[07:06] <mark__> installed).  Am I missing something else?
[07:07] <mark__> I should add that I burned the backed up dvd (which I created as an ISO) to a single-density dvd via growisofs
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. why would a backed up dvd still have the  dcss entryption.
[07:07] <mark__> damn good question
[07:07] <mark__> what's more, why if it had the css would it play under windows and on my home dvd player?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> soubnds like vlc and kaffine are looking in the wrong places for the dcss stuff
[07:08] <Dr_willis> and not even trying
[07:08] <mark__> I can play back the raw files created from dvdbackup via vlc with no problem.  I haven't tried to mount the iso as a loopback device yet though
[07:08] <mark__> that's what I was thinking
[07:08] <mark__> a broken symlink then?
[07:08] <mark__> I've just gotten through reinstalling libdvdcss2 from synaptic and am goin to try playback again.
[07:10] <mark__> note: when Kaeffine indicates it can't playback the file it offer me an option to install the necessary lib which I selected.  The website I'm redirected generates a 404 however (http://kubuntu.org/packages/libdvdcss-i386.deb)...
[07:10] <Dr_willis> i normally just play the .iso straight from gmplayerm or whatever. I dont mount them via loop
[07:10] <Dr_willis> http://lifehacker.com/350015/enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-two-commands
[07:10] <Dr_willis> Try that site.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Its what i and others have follow3ed to get dvd playback going
[07:14] <BluesKaj>  VLC will play iso's without probs
[07:14] <DaSkreech> VLC plays everything!! Except this one stupid file I have
[07:15] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, what's the extn ?
[07:15] <mark__> how very odd... I've never needed to go through that before.  Note it worked, and I'm not dissatified, but it is curious that I've been able to get dvd playback to work in the past without having to so this.  Is this something new with Hardy?  this is a fresh install (not an upgrade) and the first one I've done and tried to get dvd playback working on.  I will have to check out my other systems...
[07:15] <DaSkreech> bluszcz: .mdf I think
[07:16] <Dr_willis> mdf can be a rather nonstandard  format. :)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: .mdf I think
[07:16] <DaSkreech> bluszcz: My apologies
[07:16] <Dr_willis> I belive the fuseiso tool might be able to mount them
[07:16] <mark__> oh, and vlc does playback the iso just fine, thanks
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Why would you have a video dvd in .mdf format?
[07:16] <DaSkreech> My Uncle :-(
[07:16] <mark__> I'd assumed I'd needed to mount the device loopback
[07:17] <BluesKaj> eeewwuue . mdf ..that's a rare  one ..seems that's a very old codec
[07:17] <Dr_willis> mdf is the format used by daemon tools and other virtual dvd/cd  tools under windows
[07:17] <Dr_willis> its pripalrly used for  CopyProtected game disks.
[07:17] <DaSkreech> That would probably explain why he has no issues
[07:18] <neville_> Hey yeah, you're right!! VLC can play iso images!!
[07:18] <neville_> I never had any idea...
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Every so often you see some in here asking about 'deamon tools' for linux. :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> neville_,  gmplayer can do it also.
[07:18] <raket> hey people, how do I install nfs servers?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !nfs
[07:18] <neville_> Dr_willis, as far as something like Daemon Tools, acetoneiso2 seems to be good at what it does
[07:19] <raket> nice, thanks
[07:19] <mark__> Dr_willis: how did you come up with the link I needed so quickly?  Did you just happen to have it handy, or do you have some clever way of storing and indexing such information?  Aside from a bookmark (in which case I imagine it's your brain I even, knowing that the bookmark even exists)...
[07:19] <Dr_willis> daemontools primary task is to fake out the copy protection. and emulate a dvd drive :) not  the creation of images.  Alcohol120% is normally used to make the .mdf disk images I recall.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> mark__,  which link?
[07:20] <mark__> Dr_willis: http://lifehacker.com/350015/enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-two-commands
[07:20] <BluesKaj> mark__, http://lindesk.com/2007/05/how-to-mount-isomdf-images-in-linux/
[07:20] <Dr_willis> I saw it on my live-bookmarks just this week.. for some ubuntu tutorial site.
[07:20] <neo__> I'm using kde4, why the taskbar looks ugly when i enable compiz or kwin effect?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> so i bookmarked it. - google for 'ubuntu dvd 101' and it finds it also.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> How are you enbaling compiz under kde4 ?
[07:21] <neville_> I was meaning in the way that it can mount images with no archaic commands...
[07:21] <mark__> bloody brilliant it is.  Thank you again.  I have a tough time putting together a comprehensive list of reference material.  This is the sort of thing I'm going to need to know in a week or two and if I don't put it somewhere I'm going to scratch my head knowing I had a clue but not remember what it was.
[07:22] <BluesKaj> well, late for me ..still hammered ..pop a couple tylenol and it's  the sack...nite all
[07:22] <neo__> just like under gnome
[07:22] <raket> another question, why does ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x doesn't respond sometimes?
[07:22] <DaSkreech> neo__: Hmm?
[07:23] <neo__> well.. How can i paste a screenshot?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> tinypic.com ?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> or imageshack
[07:24] <Dr_willis> kde4 has its own composting window manager and fetures - using compiz under kde4 - would be... weird.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Then again kde4 is very miuch a work in progress
[07:26] <thechris> what does anyone know about /dev/ram and the liveCD?
[07:28] <neo__> maybe i should be back to kde3..
[07:28] <Dr_willis> kde4 is VERY much a work in progress.
[07:28] <Dr_willis> its not redy for mainstream ussage
[07:28] <mark__> agreed
[07:33] <neo_> http://i32.tinypic.com/9pvpmg.jpg  that's what it like..but agreed with what you said, I'm back to kde3.
[07:38] <Lardarse> amarok is mentioning that it can't find a "demux plugin"... which packages am i likely to be needing?
[07:39] <aaroncampbell> can anyone real quick tell me what the owner of /home/.directory should be, and where it should be linked to?
[07:39] <Lardarse>  /home should eb owned by root
[07:39] <Lardarse> and the permissions should be drwxrwxrwx
[07:40] <Lardarse> indivitual folders within it should be owned by the person who's hole folder it is
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Lardarse: kubuntu-restriced-extras ?
[07:41] <Lardarse> DaSkreech: this is on gutsy, not hardy
[07:41] <aaroncampbell> Lardarse: I mean specifically the ".directory" hidden file in /home, it should be linked somewhere, and the link was lost during a driver recovery...I want to try to fix it
[07:41] <DaSkreech> I think it's the same
[07:41] <Lardarse> aaroncampbell: i'll look
[07:41] <mark__> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 2008-05-10 08:54 /home/.directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-home
[07:41] <mark__> that was my link.
[07:41] <aaroncampbell> thanks mark__
[07:41] <mark__> np
[07:41] <aaroncampbell> thanks Lardarse too
[07:42] <Lardarse> yeah, that
[07:42] <Lardarse> i can't paste as it's another computer
[07:43] <Lardarse> DaSkreech: looks good, thanks
[07:51] <Ayabara> I'm looking for "the best" app to manage/edit my digital photos, and so far I think Digikam is the best I've seen. Anyone got other recommendations?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Digikam
[07:52] <DaSkreech> oh wait
[07:52] <DaSkreech> ummm
[07:52] <DaSkreech> umm
[07:52] <DaSkreech> F-spot?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> But yeah digikam
[07:52] <neville_> Does anybody know if 9600GT graphics card is supported by 100.14.19 driver? I'd rather not use 169.xx if I can avoid it, since it seems to be sour version
[07:52] <Ayabara> DaSkreech: ok :-)
[07:53] <thechris> Does *buntu have a non-live-cd linux install option?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> thechris: Alternate
[07:53] <neville_> you'd be after alternative disk thechris
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Or ubuntuserver
[07:53] <DaSkreech> They keep changing the name. Short answer is yes
[07:54] <thechris> what about if I don't want to use a CD/DVD for the install?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !install
[07:55] <thechris> yeah, doesn't work
[07:55] <DaSkreech> You tried all the methods from all those links ?
[07:55] <thechris> (also, don't have windows)
[07:56] <DaSkreech> thechris: I suggest reading through those links :)
[07:56] <thechris> i need to know either how to get the liveCD to create /dev/ram, or how to directly install from linux
[07:56] <alberto> hi
[07:56] <alberto> Good morning
[07:57] <spike_> hi
[07:57] <digitalpsyko> is the 8.04 release of kde 4.0.4 stable enough to install?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: you expect it to crash before it even installs?
[07:58] <DaSkreech> That's some lowered expectations :)
[07:58] <thechris> DaSkreech: ok, well, which of them met my requirements?  i'm fairly sure none really do, but the "install from OS" one is the closest to be unsucessfully hacked into working.
[07:58] <DaSkreech> thechris: Read the last link ?
[07:58] <digitalpsyko> lol sorry kind of a dumb question
[07:58] <DaSkreech> You can install from USB or from the network
[07:58] <digitalpsyko> is it a stable desktop environment?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: Yes.
[07:59] <DaSkreech> Doesn't have near the number of features yo uare used to
[07:59] <DaSkreech> but it doesn't crash very much
[07:59] <digitalpsyko> thanks man ive got the dvds torrenting right now
[07:59] <digitalpsyko> im actually not used to linux at all
[07:59] <digitalpsyko> im converting from windows
[07:59] <DaSkreech> thechris: the server CD doesn't work?
[07:59] <digitalpsyko> ive tried installing sabayon
[07:59] <thechris> DaSkreech: yeah, doens't work.  the "livecd" image can't create /dev/ram and fails
[08:00] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: Welcome :)
[08:00] <digitalpsyko> but i want somethi a bit more stable
[08:00] <digitalpsyko> :)
[08:00] <DaSkreech> thechris: Don't use the live CD
[08:00] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: LInux should have that at least
[08:00] <thechris> DaSkreech: ok, the *cd image
[08:00] <DaSkreech> thechris: you tried the alternate CD and it didn't work?
[08:00] <digitalpsyko> i can do some stuff in linux just not much
[08:01] <digitalpsyko> not alot of the basics i need to know
[08:01] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: What?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> You don't need to know the basics?
[08:01] <digitalpsyko> i do
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Ah
[08:01] <thechris> DaSkreech: hmm, i guess i can try that.  not expecting it to work, but might as well try.
[08:01] <digitalpsyko> i meant i dont know alot of the bsics i need too
[08:01] <DaSkreech> well ask away
[08:02] <DaSkreech> thechris: I've never had it fail outside of a Bad CD
[08:02] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: When something causes you pain jump in here and let us know
[08:02] <DaSkreech> if it's KDE4 pain point there is  #kubuntu-kde4 as well
[08:02] <thechris> not really looking to burn a CD.
[08:02] <digitalpsyko> im getting the 3.5 version
[08:03] <DaSkreech> thechris: See that cuts out all chances of failure in my experience :)
[08:03] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: Neat :)
[08:03] <digitalpsyko> if i tell you my system specs can you tell me if it'll do ok for kubuntu?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> I can't imagine that it won't
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !paste | digitalpsyko Put them here
[08:04] <digitalpsyko> ok well theres really not 3 lines to it lol
[08:05] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: good habits are good habits
[08:05] <DaSkreech> hi sarah
[08:05] <sarah> hello !
[08:05] <DaSkreech> how are you?
[08:05] <sarah> I'm fine thx
[08:06] <digitalpsyko> i have a 2.4 c2d,3gigs gskillddr2 800, 2 74gig WD Raptors, 1 WD1TB drive , and an Evga 8800gt 512
[08:06] <DaSkreech> groovy
[08:06] <thechris> DaSkreech: still, i'd like a way to just install without needing to hack things up to work.  It'll take a while to download though, so i can't immediately tell if this will work.  and while i'm fairly confident it will fail with the same /dev/ram error, I feel I must thank you for at least attempting to help.
[08:06]  * DaSkreech laughs
[08:06] <digitalpsyko> no good?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> thechris: are you booting from USB ?
[08:06] <thechris> nope, from a 1G partiton on the HDD
[08:07] <thechris> ext3 partiton at that
[08:07] <DaSkreech> digitalpsyko: I'm on a 1.2 Ghz T-Bird Athlon with 700 Megs of RAM
[08:07] <digitalpsyko> sweet
[08:08] <digitalpsyko>  i got antix mepis to run on an original thinkpad 770 233pentium,96mb,2mb graphic, 4gb hdd
[08:08] <DaSkreech> I've installed it on 700 Mhz PIII with 384 MB of RAM to upgrade it from win XP
[08:08] <digitalpsyko> :)
[08:08] <digitalpsyko> ive been playing with distros for years
[08:08] <digitalpsyko> kinda collect the live ones
[08:09] <jasoon> How do install a new icon theme in Open Office?
[08:09] <digitalpsyko> useful for all sorts of stuff
[08:09] <jasoon> I have the crystal project icons
[08:09] <jasoon> google failing me :(
[08:09] <vishah> hi, is KDE 4.0.4 available in the repositories?
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:10] <DaSkreech> vishah: http://www.kubuntu.org
[08:10] <DaSkreech> vishah: in topic as well
[08:10] <vishah> Yes, I followed the instructions, but still It's the same version :(
[08:10] <jasoon> have to choose it in logon screen I think?
[08:11] <sivaji> yes
[08:11] <jasoon> doesn't it install separately?
[08:11] <jasoon> sorry, bittergreen myself
[08:11] <DaSkreech> vishah: how do you know?
[08:11] <jasoon> probably by the visuals daskreech
[08:11] <vishah> well When I check the about dialog it doesnt show KDE 4.0.3
[08:12] <vishah> plud the kickof menu is still the old one
[08:12] <holyguyver_> How do I install Jasper so that I can get webcam videos in Kopete?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> vishah: the menu doesn't change
[08:12] <DaSkreech> vishah: The about menu is a bug It will be fixed soon. Sorry
[08:12] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: Compile it
[08:13] <holyguyver_> Where do I find the sourse for it?
[08:13] <sivaji> i got my password irc passwd,  how to it ?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: It's a license issue. trying to work it back to being good
[08:13] <jasoon> have to compile it :P?
[08:13] <jasoon> me so lazy
[08:13] <jasoon> heh
[08:13] <DaSkreech> !register | sivaji
[08:13] <jasoon> I figured out how to install those icons
[08:15] <holyguyver_> DaSkreech the closest thing I found was a website talking about jpeg2000, is that the same thing?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: that would be it
[08:16] <holyguyver_> Thanks
[08:16] <jasoon> Kubuntu is so cool :o
[08:16] <jasoon> I would pay for this
[08:16] <holyguyver_> So DaSkreech what is the liscensing issue & what are they doing to fix that?
[08:17] <navetz> is there a way to unmake a makefile?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> they can't link to libjasper anymore (you can just install libjasper in KDE3 and Yahoo works)
[08:17] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: Oh I assume this is KDE4 right?
[08:17] <holyguyver_> no
[08:18] <holyguyver_> I am actually using xubuntu
[08:18] <DaSkreech> so once the jpeg-2000 guys update the license then we are good again
[08:18] <holyguyver_> gutsy
[08:18] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: yes but did you install kopete or kopete-kde4 ?
[08:18] <holyguyver_> DaSkreech I am using Xubuntu Gutsy, & I installed regular Kopete
[08:19] <navetz> if I install something through a make file
[08:19] <navetz> can I uninstall it?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: Oh my apologies. Install libjasper and you will be ok
[08:19] <jasoon> did you look in aptget?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> navetz: What are you installing?
[08:19] <holyguyver_> Alright thanks :D
[08:19] <navetz> DaSkreech: I installed a compiz 3d windows plugin
[08:20] <navetz> DaSkreech: but now its officially released and I would like to get rid of the one I installed
[08:20] <Lardarse> DaSkreech: it worked (until something else killed X). thanks
[08:20] <DaSkreech> navetz: Ah right. Well if you don't delete the directory with the sources you can CD in there and make uninstall
[08:20] <navetz> DaSkreech: thanks I'll try it
[08:20] <navetz> DaSkreech: I think it worke
[08:20] <navetz> d
[08:20] <DaSkreech> navetz: Course it did
[08:21] <jasoon> Is there a gui way of copying to a folder in /?
[08:21] <holyguyver_> DaSkreech it said E: Couldn't find package libjasper
[08:22] <jasoon> can someone tell me what the command for copy is?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !info libjasper
[08:22] <jasoon> !info copy
[08:23] <jasoon> haha
[08:23] <holyguyver_> well I am running Gutsy :p
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !info libjasper-runtime
[08:23] <jasoon> !please help me
[08:23] <DaSkreech> !info libjasper-runtime gutsy
[08:23] <jasoon> !info why not
[08:23] <jasoon> !info alrighty then
[08:23] <DaSkreech> jasoon: Please speak with the bot privately
[08:23] <jasoon> heh sorry
[08:24] <holyguyver_> Alright there the libjasper-runtime cammand worked :)
[08:26] <holyguyver_> It is installed, thanks DaSkreech :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> restart kopete
[08:26] <holyguyver_> I don't have to restart it, I haven't started it in over a week so it wasn't/isnt on :p
[08:26] <holyguyver_> I just need to start it up :p
[08:27] <DaSkreech> there we go :)
[08:27] <holyguyver_> I am in xchat right now :p
[08:27] <DaSkreech> booo
[08:27] <DaSkreech> konversation
[08:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:27] <sacha_> yaaay konversation! :D
[08:27] <sacha_> by the way, anyone know whats going on with konvo4?
[08:28] <holyguyver_> Well of course since this is the Kubuntu room :)
[08:28] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: does Xchat-gnome work in xubuntu ?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Xchat is cool for scripting and little else
[08:28] <holyguyver_> Yes xchat works in xubuntu, that is how I am using it :p
[08:29] <jasoon> Pretty please someone tell me how to copy with root priveledges?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: No xchat-gnome
[08:29] <DaSkreech> jasoon: in the GUI?
[08:29] <jasoon> in anything?
[08:29] <DaSkreech> or just copy
[08:29] <holyguyver_> Konversation is nice but I am on a 1998 Gateway so most KDE apps are a bit heavy on this computer with its 4GB harddrive & 90Mbs of ram
[08:29] <sacha_> jasoon: sudo cp
[08:29] <jasoon> I just want to copy a folder
[08:29] <jasoon> thank you
[08:29] <DaSkreech> sudo cp here there
[08:29] <DaSkreech> cp -r for directory
[08:30] <jasoon> sudo copy /something.zip /home/whatever/
[08:30] <DaSkreech> holyguyver_: Yeah
[08:30] <jasoon> like that?
[08:30] <sacha_> yes
[08:30] <DaSkreech> jasoon: no cp
[08:30] <jasoon> sorry that's what I meant
[08:30] <jasoon> thank you
[08:30] <sacha_> sudo cp ./something.zip /home/whatever/myfolder/
[08:30] <jasoon> ty
[08:30] <sacha_> but you wont need sudo to copy to home directory lol
[08:31] <jasoon> just e.g
[08:31] <holyguyver_> DaSkreech, but the good news is that I ordered a brand new HP today so soon I will be switching from Xubuntu to Kubuntu :)
[08:31] <jasoon> why does linux restrict end user via sudo?
[08:31] <jasoon> is there a way to logon as root?
[08:31] <jasoon> My first using linux
[08:32] <jasoon> *first day
[08:32] <holyguyver_> DaSkreech :p I will be going from a 1998 to a 2008 :p
[08:32] <jasoon> questions...questions
[08:32] <sivaji> jasoon no
[08:32] <sacha_> jasoon: you dont want to login as root
[08:32] <jasoon> yes why not?
[08:32] <sacha_> jasoon: because then you can do anything without permission
[08:32] <jasoon> why am I restricting myself?
[08:32] <sivaji> jasoon its diabled in ubuntu
[08:32] <holyguyver_> I have been told that I will like this new thing called USB
[08:32] <jasoon> Permission from who?
[08:32] <sacha_> you
[08:32] <DaSkreech> jasoon: in general yes
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jasoon: Ubuntu disables root login by default
[08:33] <jasoon> why do I need permission for sole user?
[08:33] <JackWinter> can anyone tell me where to find out which packaages were updated the last few days.  I did a full upgrade of a kubuntu 8.04 system, and at least 2 of the packages were uninstalled (wine (seperate depo) and amarok).  want to see what else is gone instead of being frustrated because someting isn't wroking ;)
[08:33] <jasoon> Lol wall of text
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jasoon: because Linux asks no questions of root
[08:33] <jasoon> yes
[08:33] <sacha_> because one of your applications may be flawed. if you have root privileges, it can do anything to your system
[08:33] <DaSkreech> it will allow you to do the stupidest most destructive things without question or pause
[08:33] <jasoon> i.e. a virus?
[08:34] <sacha_> if you say "i want to delete everything" and you are root. it wont question you. everything will be deleted
[08:34] <DaSkreech> JackWinter: check your dpkglogs
[08:34] <jasoon> ok
[08:34] <jasoon> how is this different from root user in windows saying delete everything?
[08:34] <jasoon> MY HANDS I KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO!
[08:34] <sacha_> jasoon: if you accidently delete everything and you are the user, it wont let you because you didnt type in sudo or password
[08:34] <DaSkreech> jasoon: also if someone compromises your user he gets to mess with things in your home directory as root he has full access to the computer all users everyone on the network etc
[08:35] <RameTux> #join #blankon
[08:35] <RameTux> sorry
[08:35] <jasoon> I see
[08:35] <RameTux> :D
[08:35] <jasoon> so really more of a concern when you have 1+ user
[08:35] <sacha_> jasoon: no, concern is same with 1 user
[08:35] <jasoon> haha
[08:35] <jasoon> meh, its funny :)
[08:35] <sacha_> a remote user could compromise you which is what daskreech was talking about
[08:35] <jasoon> ah
[08:36] <jasoon> that makes sense
[08:36] <jasoon> I'd figure if they were smart enough to compromise me, I'm pretty much screwed anyway
[08:36] <jasoon> haha
[08:36] <sacha_> if you are root and someone gets on to your computer, they can do whatever they want.. if you are on windows and someone gets on to your computer, they can do whatever they want
[08:36] <sacha_> if you are a user on linux, they cant do much
[08:36] <JackWinter> DaSkreech: hehe where to i find the logs ?
[08:37] <jasoon> Indeed
[08:37] <jasoon> I understand
[08:37] <jasoon> ok
[08:37] <DaSkreech> JackWinter: /var/logs
[08:37] <jasoon> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:37] <DaSkreech> jasoon: Well said :)
[08:37] <jasoon> haha
[08:38] <sacha_> because no one on linux runs on root, people dont usually target linux
[08:38] <DaSkreech> sacha_: No one?
[08:38] <jasoon> just one more obstacle eh?
[08:38] <sacha_> ok ive seen a few people in here as root lol
[08:38] <jasoon> ACK
[08:38] <jasoon> MY ICONS
[08:38] <jasoon> this was not a triumph!
[08:39] <jasoon> good news: I learned simple copy command
[08:39] <jasoon> bad news: icons=poof!
[08:39] <jasoon> haha
[08:39] <sacha_> how?
[08:39] <jasoon> kind of has a nice minimalistic view I guess
[08:39] <jasoon> well I got those crystal project icons
[08:39] <jasoon> for open office too
[08:39] <jasoon> so I copied them over
[08:39] <jasoon> booted up OO
[08:39] <sacha_> you copied the icons over?
[08:39] <jasoon> Let me see...
[08:39] <jasoon> yes
[08:40] <sacha_> you know in SystemSettings you can import an icon theme?
[08:40] <jasoon> yes
[08:40] <sacha_> you click import then click the theme and wahlah
[08:40] <jasoon> I just replaced the old crystal
[08:40] <jasoon> luckily backed up the old one
[08:40] <jasoon> but what has science done?!
[08:40] <sacha_> science?
[08:41] <jasoon> I'm just being silly
[08:43] <jasoon> went on forums
[08:43] <jasoon> This happens when you change away from the default icon set for your desktop. You just need to get the other OOo icons, which are contained in the following packages:
[08:43] <jasoon> Code:
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-andromeda - Default symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-crystal - Crystal symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-default - Default symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-human - Human symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-industrial - Industrial symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-tango - Tango symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> openoffice.org-style-hicontrast - Hicontrast symbol style for OpenOffice.org
[08:43] <jasoon> so just have to get those...
[08:44] <sacha_> :\ k
[08:44] <jasoon> heh
[08:45] <jasoon> behold my massive wall of text
[08:45] <digitalpsyko> lol
[08:46] <sacha_> whats wrong with koffice anyway? :P
[08:47] <jasoon> haven't tried it
[08:47] <jasoon> but I like openoffice
[08:47] <LilSarge> Join my Chan. #LilSarge.com
[08:47] <jasoon> Wonder how they compress the stuff on the cd so well
[08:47] <jasoon> amazing how much stuff they pack in 700mb
[08:48] <sacha_> it installs to about 3 gigs though
[08:49] <jasoon> that's what I'm saying
[08:49] <LilSarge> best software is always the free stuff!
[08:49] <jasoon> how'd they do that :)
[08:49] <jasoon> Only 900 packages
[08:49] <sacha_> yeah
[08:49] <jasoon> If I did a server install, could probably -200 packages
[08:50] <jasoon> but I'm impressed with the default install
[08:50] <LilSarge> what can i get rid of without hurting Kubuntu, to run normally?
[08:50] <jasoon> almost everything seems useful
[08:50] <sacha_> theres much smaller distros
[08:50] <sacha_> fully featured with about 100-200MB
[08:50] <jasoon> Not ready for Arch+KDEmod just yet :)
[08:51] <sacha_> arch is going to be using more space since it's source code
[08:51] <sacha_> and kdemod is pretty bad really
[08:51] <jasoon> oh have you tried it?
[08:51] <jasoon> how so?
[08:51] <sacha_> yeah
[08:51] <sacha_> kdemod doesnt get updated much and i dont like their changes
[08:51] <jasoon> I'm a complete newby
[08:52] <jasoon> it looked kind of cool from the screenshots
[08:52] <LilSarge> im about 3 months into linux
[08:52] <sacha_> if i want something bleeding edge i compile it from the svn or git
[08:52] <jasoon> I'm about 2 days :P
[08:52] <jasoon> Used it for about a month back in 6.10
[08:52] <JackWinter> here is the relevant portion of my dpkglogs.  anyone care to tell me what went wrong and why i lost progrs doing a full update ?  anything i should be aware of in order not to repeat ?
[08:53] <jasoon> lost progs? sh-t :o
[08:54] <JackWinter> opps ;) : http://pastebin.ca/1014534
[08:54] <LilSarge> i upgraded from 7.10 to the newest a few days ago and it messed up so i dled the new one and put on dvd and had a full reinstall :( lol
[08:55] <sacha_> yeah upgrades arent perfect
[08:55] <sacha_> and there's generally redundant stuff in there
[08:55] <jasoon> *note to self
[08:55] <JackWinter> LilSarge: i updated from 7.10 to 8.04 rc to 8.04 without a problem back when it came out
[08:55] <sacha_> ive upgraded fine before but a clean install is always that much better
[08:55] <LilSarge> JackWinter: Hmm i wonder what went wrong?
[08:56] <jasoon> looks good doesn't it
[08:56] <JackWinter> I'm pretty sure i didn't do it myself, but i've managed to do rm -R in my home once so..;)
[08:56] <jasoon> looks like everything installed
[08:57] <JackWinter> well i lost at least wine and amarok
[08:57] <LilSarge> JackWinter: Did you try sudo apt-get install wine  ?
[08:57] <jasoon> 2008-05-09 20:14:37 status installed amarok 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu3+medibuntu1
[08:58] <jasoon> bleh that sucks :(?
[08:58] <JackWinter> LilSarge: i did this from Adept, and i've added the winehq deb depos
[08:58] <JackWinter> jasoon: look further on, then they are removed..?
[08:58] <LilSarge> JackWinter: O ok
[08:59] <jasoon> I see
[08:59] <jasoon> Why the heck did it do that?
[08:59] <sacha_> JackWinter: just reinstall them?
[08:59] <JackWinter> LilSarge: it was just a "fetch updates" "full update" "apply changes"
[08:59] <LilSarge> Konversation is a very nice program! I like how customizable it is. By far the best i'v seen
[08:59] <jasoon> bleh I'm getting sleepy
[09:00] <jasoon> but I see it removed a lot of stuff
[09:00] <jasoon> at the end its a lot of remove the old stuff, replace with new stuff
[09:00] <LilSarge> JackWinter: Got you! Mine came installed and up to date :D
[09:00] <jasoon> but there's a big chunk with remove this/that
[09:01] <sacha_> LilSarge: yeah but its looked like this for about 4 years
[09:01] <JackWinter> sacha_: i did and will when i have figured out what more went missing.  just trying to find out what went wrong and if this is a bug to be reported...
[09:01] <sacha_> LilSarge: i want konversation 4
[09:01] <sacha_> JackWinter: k
[09:01] <LilSarge> JackWinter: There is a Version 4?
[09:02] <jasoon> good idea Jack
[09:02] <JackWinter> LilSarge: i don't know ;)
[09:02] <sacha_> LilSarge: well of course there has to be a qt4 port for KDE4
[09:02] <sacha_> this version is ancient
[09:02] <jasoon> LilSarge: yeah, it's a cool app isnt it :)
[09:02] <LilSarge> yes i love it
[09:03] <jasoon> I like how everyone's name is colored
[09:03] <LilSarge> like i said the free stuff is always the better stuff :P
[09:03] <jasoon> makes it easier to read
[09:03] <JackWinter> i have to agree with everyone.   Konversation is great.    Konqueror is kickbehind too..
[09:03] <jasoon> Little thing I never considered in Windows
[09:03] <jasoon> konqueror I'm really impressed with
[09:03] <LilSarge> i want Linux security in windows lol
[09:03] <jasoon> I can't believe how fast it is
[09:03] <LilSarge> need a mix of both
[09:04] <jasoon> just the whole package is great
[09:04] <sacha_> JackWinter: have you tried Opera 9.5? it uses Qt
[09:04] <jasoon> dolphin great
[09:04] <jasoon> k3b great
[09:04] <JackWinter> not to mention Kontact great aswell...
[09:04] <jasoon> openoffice, kontact, kopete
[09:04] <jasoon> sexeh
[09:04] <LilSarge> I like the fact its working cool on my laptop
[09:04] <jasoon> same
[09:04] <LilSarge> i like Pidgen better tho
[09:04] <sacha_> k3b is an awesome burning app
[09:04] <jasoon> the power manager is cool too
[09:05] <jasoon> dynamic magic :)
[09:05]  * JoshOvki switches to XP on desktop in winter to help heat the room
[09:05] <jasoon> hahaha
[09:05] <LilSarge> performance :p
[09:05] <sacha_> akregator <-- this is my favourite app for RSS feeds
[09:05] <jasoon> haha
[09:05] <JoshOvki> morning all
[09:05] <LilSarge> MORNING YO
[09:05] <jasoon> 1AM
[09:05] <jasoon> here
[09:05] <LilSarge> oops caps
[09:05] <LilSarge> 1:05
[09:05] <jasoon> I'm being bad linux user :P
[09:06] <jasoon> going to boot into root and start rm -r
[09:06] <jasoon> hhaha
[09:06] <jasoon> oh crap! at 3:00AM
[09:06] <LilSarge> now i got Win XP,Vista and Kubuntu 8.04 :D
[09:06] <sacha_> jasoon: rm -rf /
[09:06] <JackWinter> !Adept
[09:06] <jasoon> hahaha
[09:06] <jasoon> ty!
[09:06] <jasoon> red name=admin or something?
[09:06] <JackWinter> is there a channel for adept ?
[09:06] <sacha_> no, colour isnt anything to do with anything
[09:06] <jasoon> yes
[09:07] <jasoon> #sexy package manager
[09:07] <sacha_> this channel jackwinter
[09:07] <jasoon> you have a nice blue name
[09:07] <sacha_> jasoon: you are red on mine
[09:07] <jasoon> magical
[09:07] <jasoon> haha
[09:07] <sacha_> i made an irc client before and i coloured names using a csum of the persons name
[09:07] <LilSarge> You can change colors
[09:08] <LilSarge> make ppl any color and urself
[09:08] <LilSarge> :D
[09:08] <JackWinter> sacha_: so what is your take on my problem.  something i should report or just chalk it up to the phase of the moon..?
[09:08] <sacha_> so everyone had unique names and always had that colour
[09:08] <jasoon> I want to be white
[09:08] <LilSarge> ppl talk to me its Green
[09:08] <sacha_> JackWinter: bugs.launchpad.net
[09:08] <jasoon> <          >
[09:08] <jasoon> heh
[09:08] <jasoon> <            > WHY WONT ANYONE REPLY TO ME
[09:08] <flaccid> !bugs
[09:08] <LilSarge> Settings>Konfigure Konversation>Colors
[09:09] <JoshOvki> !caps | jasoon
[09:09] <jasoon> let's see
[09:09] <jasoon> haha
[09:09] <jasoon> is my name white?
[09:09] <sacha_> no
[09:09] <jasoon> I can't see anything on mine
[09:09] <JoshOvki> :) no still red here
[09:10] <sacha_> you cant change your colour. its whatever our client wants it to be
[09:10] <jasoon> I see
[09:10] <JoshOvki> jasoon: you can only change the colours on your client
[09:10] <jasoon> Well, I'm going to switch back because this is kind of unsettling
[09:10]  * JoshOvki wounders why its so busy for a sunday morning
[09:11] <LilSarge> jasoon: How old are you bro
[09:11] <jasoon> In human years?
[09:11] <jasoon> Or vampire years?
[09:11] <JoshOvki> noth
[09:11] <JoshOvki> *both
[09:11] <jasoon> human=Over 9000000000
[09:11] <jasoon> !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:12] <jasoon> vampire=14
[09:12] <jasoon> Ah I love internet
[09:12] <jasoon> I'm actually 26
[09:12] <jasoon> OR AM I?!
[09:12] <LilSarge> jasoon: Um human years lol
[09:12] <LilSarge> jasoon: Lol
[09:12] <jasoon> I feel about 26
[09:12] <jasoon> I'm really younger than that
[09:13] <jasoon> but not much :)
[09:13] <LilSarge> jasoon: i say 14
[09:13] <jasoon> hahaha
[09:13] <LilSarge> jasoon: j/k
[09:13] <jasoon> silly on internet=14 indeed :)
[09:13] <LilSarge> jasoon: ok how about in real life and not on net??
[09:13] <jasoon> Well now can you really trust what I am saying?
[09:13] <LilSarge> I cant lol
[09:13] <jasoon> sudo get age
[09:13] <LilSarge> i can asume
[09:14] <LilSarge> lol
[09:14] <jasoon> yes I'm just getting a nonsense number here
[09:14] <LilSarge> ima try that just forfun of it
[09:14] <JoshOvki> gents can we move this over to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[09:14] <surgy> hello
[09:14] <surgy> I have used kubuntu lots in the past and i am fixing to build a pc for my car that is going to have below average specs, can someone please give me the minimum system requirements for fluxbuntu?
[09:14] <jasoon> heh
[09:14] <jasoon> like...
[09:14] <LilSarge> 450mhz
[09:15] <LilSarge> 256mb ram
[09:15] <jasoon> maybe not even that high
[09:15] <jasoon> but doesn't it have gnome dependencies?
[09:15] <LilSarge> 5gb hd lol
[09:15] <jasoon> could probably go verrrry low with a server install of flux packages
[09:15] <jasoon> maybe 100-300 mhz
[09:15] <LilSarge> wow
[09:15] <jasoon> and 256mb ram=cheap :P
[09:15] <LilSarge> them slooowww pcs
[09:16] <flaccid> surgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#head-2659cd6ecdcc610d675550bceabb5cbfb76541b8
[09:16] <jasoon> 450 mhz would give excellent performance I bet on flux
[09:16] <flaccid> 64MB/4GB/300MHz
[09:16] <JoshOvki> surgy: you may want to ask here #fluxbuntu
[09:16] <LilSarge> that will most likely work my friend
[09:16] <flaccid> xubuntu/low-spec: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#head-1e8a8a2a2221583a5ce5a57a242f72b623469815
[09:16] <jasoon> I used bbleans on windows for a spell, very efficient
[09:17] <jasoon> ~8mb average mem usage for just the shell
[09:17] <jasoon> maybe used 150mb for services including firefox
[09:17] <surgy> LilSarge well im going to install it on a 733mhz comp with 128 mb ram what do you think I can expect?
[09:17] <flaccid> it will go ok...
[09:18] <jasoon> good performance unless you install a ton of stuff
[09:18] <jasoon> you can tweak services to run just what you need (not much on a car comp I'm thinking)
[09:18] <JoshOvki> surgy: it will run fine. ive had XP machines in work run on that untill recently
[09:18] <flaccid> sure. just keep in mind by default no network services run in terms of listening servers
[09:19] <LilSarge> how do u disable services?
[09:19] <jasoon> I used kate and a guide
[09:19] <jasoon> but I think kubuntu has services function in CP
[09:19] <jasoon> err
[09:19] <jasoon> "system settings"
[09:19] <flaccid> yeah 'system services'
[09:20] <LilSarge> ok thx
[09:20] <flaccid> kde3 has it not 4 but
[09:20] <surgy> jasoon yeah basicly just sound usb and video is all i will be using
[09:20] <jasoon> kate is awesome
[09:20] <digitalpsyko> im getting ready to install kubuntu 8.04 HH on a 2.4c2d,3gigs gskill ddr2 800, 2 WD74gig raptors, 1 WD 1TB, Evga 8800gt 512...it'll run good right?
[09:20] <jasoon> the html editing with terminal editing just godly...
[09:20] <jasoon> Yeah, that'll be cool surgy :)
[09:20] <flaccid> digitalpsyko: sure
[09:20] <jasoon> should run well
[09:20] <LilSarge> Learn something new everyday!
[09:21] <jasoon> I'd get some more memory
[09:21] <jasoon> It's dirt cheap these days, you know?
[09:21] <LilSarge> not regular DDR and DDR3 lmao
[09:21] <jasoon> would help with overall performance
[09:21] <digitalpsyko> i have another 1 gig stick of gskill
[09:21] <jasoon> heh
[09:21] <jasoon> dd3=retarded
[09:21] <digitalpsyko> ddr2 = sweet
[09:21] <digitalpsyko> ddr2= cheap
[09:21] <flaccid> check mem useage and see how close you get t using within 200mb free/start to use vm
[09:21] <jasoon> well ddr3 is just useless for its cost
[09:21] <LilSarge> why is DDR2 cheapper than DDR?
[09:22] <jasoon> they act likes its all better than ddr2, but the performance diff. is negligible
[09:22] <jasoon> they=critics et cet.
[09:22] <digitalpsyko> dunno guess more and more ompanies are making it...just my guess
[09:22] <flaccid> the newer stuff ends up being the mass manufactured and thus cheaper
[09:22] <LilSarge> all of my pc's have DDR in them all but one with sdRam lmao
[09:22] <jasoon> supply and demand lil sarge :)
[09:22] <LilSarge> yea thats what i figured:D
[09:23] <flaccid> then when its not made anymore its expensive
[09:23] <LilSarge> just pisses me off and makes me want to upgrade but but in a month there will be newer and better all the time so i just end up more pissed lol
[09:23] <digitalpsyko> doe compiz come installed on 8.04?
[09:23] <jasoon> heh
[09:23] <LilSarge> yes
[09:23] <jasoon> well
[09:23] <flaccid> i wouldn't be annoyed considering how cheap it is to build a performance pc box these days
[09:23] <LilSarge> or something saying compiz in it lol
[09:23] <jasoon> on Kubuntu you have to click a button
[09:23] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | digitalpsyko
[09:23] <jasoon> but I think on Ubuntu it is
[09:24] <jasoon> I just installed it a few hours ago
[09:24] <LilSarge> damn are these bots are ppl they respond hella fast
[09:24] <jasoon> Seems pretty toned down from what I remember
[09:24] <digitalpsyko> jasoon
[09:24] <LilSarge> i installed yesterday
[09:24] <digitalpsyko> i might need some help ina few minutes after i get done installing
[09:24] <digitalpsyko> installing compiz
[09:24] <jasoon> Kubuntu?
[09:25] <jasoon> or on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <flaccid> digitalpsyko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-1447dbabe59744a63cad770f4d2143fb45cb4aad :)
[09:25] <digitalpsyko> yeah kubuntu 8.04 hh 3.5.9
[09:25] <LilSarge> out of all ubuntu kubuntu and edubutu and w/e else they have...which is better?
[09:25] <digitalpsyko> ty flaccid i will bookmark the links
[09:25] <JoshOvki> LilSarge: they are all different not better
[09:25] <flaccid> LilSarge: better ?
[09:25] <LilSarge> and i wonna try mobile ubuntu someday
[09:25] <flaccid> most use the same repositories
[09:26] <jasoon> I chose Kubuntu to kickstart my linux experience because kde seems nice
[09:26] <LilSarge> idk just fast and no memory taking lol
[09:26] <jasoon> It's really just preference and ease of use
[09:26] <LilSarge> and is there any games able to play cuz im having problems finding any
[09:26] <flaccid> !games | LilSarge
[09:26] <LilSarge> o ok
[09:27] <flaccid> i recommend wolf: et
[09:27] <jasoon> 60% of this stuff enduser would prob. install anyway, so why not have cd do it
[09:27] <jasoon> diff. distros just speed up the process
[09:28] <flaccid> most stuff is pretty easy to install in post-installation these days
[09:28] <JoshOvki> ive used all sorts of distros but ive stuck with kubuntu longest so far
[09:28] <LilSarge> ditto
[09:28] <keldon85> Hi, I'm having serious troubles with the latest install cd/dvd's for various distro's (while my previous ones work fine)
[09:28] <JoshOvki> over the past 10ish years, when i started on mandrake
[09:29] <LilSarge> um i have tried Delta Force Black Hawk Down and v1 plays or atleast loads menu and when i upgrade so i can play online with friends....it doesnt even load menus
[09:29] <LilSarge> anyone know why?
[09:29] <JoshOvki> keldon85: whats happening / going wrong?
[09:29] <keldon85> It's so bad that I can't even install in text mode ... with kubuntu it seems to be getting stuck in debcomfig.c : main
[09:30] <keldon85> it maps the kernel to 0x8000- [something] and then does not progress any further
[09:30] <keldon85> if I press ctrl+c it outputs: "/build ***/debconf.c:135 (main): Cannot initialize debconfig template database
[09:31] <keldon85> I'm also getting similar behaviour from Mandriva; I can't even run testcd!
[09:31] <keldon85> What's confusing is that I've never had any such trouble in the past and I have no idea where to start
[09:31] <JoshOvki> sounds like a memory problem to me
[09:32] <JoshOvki> keldon85: have you tryed running memtest?
[09:32] <jasoon> or maybe discs are in unrepair?
[09:32] <keldon85> Hmm; well I'll run a thorough test, but do you have any suggestions providing that is not the problem (I am currently running the kubuntu 7 live cd, and all distros from 2007 work)
[09:33] <keldon85> Yes, maybe my dvd is burning faulty disks!
[09:33] <LilSarge> it took me 3 burns to get my linux to install
[09:33] <sacha_> powertop rules
[09:33] <LilSarge> reburn a cd
[09:33] <LilSarge> i used a dvdrw 3x then it finally worked
[09:33] <sacha_> i went from 800 wakeups/second to 300 wakeups/second
[09:34] <sacha_> and battery life increased by about an hour
[09:34] <JackWinter> ok, think i have my system back.  the update lost me the following: amarok, digikam, hp printdrivers, kaffeine, kamera, kipi, kmplayer, kooka and wine...  crazy ;)
[09:34] <JoshOvki> kalorin: i didnt realise you where currently running a live cd. thats also possible that your having bad luck with the dvds
[09:35] <jasoon> ah good Jack
[09:36] <jasoon> hope it works like new again
[09:36] <JackWinter> guess i'll be more reluctant to do a full update ;)
[09:36] <jasoon> keldon-->whoa betide the many who've done everything as they should only to find they have a bad disc
[09:36] <jasoon> I've done a huge amount of Windows OEM installs
[09:37] <LilSarge> man i'v done over 500 XP and Vista Installs lol
[09:37] <jasoon> And one little scratch can screw the whole unattended process up
[09:37] <jasoon> or a faulty sector et cet.
[09:37] <TeslaTony> I just installed a plugin for firefox (it's a .jar file). After installing the sun java 5 and 6 packages, it's stopped working. What packages am I likely to need to reinstall to get it working again?
[09:37] <jasoon> Just my 2 cents :P
[09:38] <jasoon> maybe reinstall java
[09:38] <jasoon> actually scratch that
[09:38] <jasoon> its a plugin
[09:38] <jasoon> hm, what plugin?
[09:38] <keldon85> yes, plus I've hardly used my DVD burner - I only ever use them to burn linux distros ... well I'm going to try some more so thanks for the help
[09:38] <keldon85> bye
[09:38] <jasoon> g/l
[09:39] <LilSarge> np
[09:39] <TeslaTony> It assists with video downloads
[09:40] <jasoon> do your other plugins work?
[09:40] <jasoon> have you tried installing adblock or a theme or the like?
[09:41] <TeslaTony> All the others work fine (as far as I can tell...don't have many)
[09:41] <TeslaTony> The only mod to the browser is the plugin
[09:41] <jasoon> is it compatible with firefox 3 beta 5?
[09:41] <TeslaTony> I'd assume so. It was working fine before
[09:42] <jasoon> heh, double check
[09:42] <jasoon> I think I know the plugin your talking about, but can't remember its name or I'd check myself
[09:42] <JackWinter> should youtube work in konqueror ?
[09:42] <jasoon> yes
[09:42] <jasoon> if you're updated, its cool
[09:42] <jasoon> A prompt will come up and install it for you :)
[09:43] <jasoon> if you go to a site with flash that is
[09:44] <misc--> hello, I want to install kubuntu 8.04 but the installer always crashes when scanning disks. Is there another method to install rather than using ubiquity?
[09:44] <JackWinter> i have flashplugin-nonfree installed...
[09:45] <jasoon> yes, I'm listening to a song right now via youtube in konqueror
[09:45] <jasoon> works great
[09:45] <blekos> hi, anybody having problems with vmware? i have applied the patch
[09:46] <jasoon> what kind of problems?
[09:46] <jasoon> ubiquity?
[09:46] <misc--> yes
[09:46] <JackWinter> hmm, i had the feeling it was working before.  just myspace that would give me probs in konq.  it works in firefox.  so my system is still wonky..;(
[09:47] <jasoon> maybe just have to reload the page
[09:47] <jasoon> what is ubiquity?
[09:47] <misc--> it always crashes on the page where it's scanning for disks. Have tried kernel options like noapic/noapci/nolpic/noapm but still crashes
[09:47] <misc--> it's the installer for ubuntu.
[09:47] <jasoon> sec, let me read
[09:47] <jasoon> hm
[09:47] <jasoon> !info ubiquity
[09:48] <misc--> that's the one
[09:48] <jasoon> yes I forgot that's what it was called
[09:48] <misc--> aside from the using the alternative CD, I guess there is no other way but to use ubiquity for the installer :/
[09:48] <misc--> =)
[09:48] <jasoon> indeed
[09:48] <jasoon> what kind of comp?
[09:48] <JackWinter> jasoon: do you have konqueror-plugin-gnash installed ?
[09:49] <jasoon> let me see
[09:49] <misc--> intel x86 core 2
[09:49] <yao_ziyua1> can anyone do me a favor? i want to know some values
[09:49] <yao_ziyua1> the Crystal kwin style
[09:49] <yao_ziyua1> on the Background tab,
[09:49] <jasoon> misc-->laptop?
[09:50] <jasoon> jack-->no
[09:50] <JackWinter> jasoon: thanks.
[09:50] <yao_ziyua1> the default color HTML values on the right of Simple Outline and Simple Inline
[09:50] <yao_ziyua1> then switch to the Inactive tab, get the default color HTML values too
[09:50] <jasoon> gnash is the opensource flash plugin if I recall?
[09:50] <yao_ziyua1> i need them
[09:50] <jasoon> simple outline
[09:51] <jasoon> one sec
[09:51] <misc--> jasoon: nope, desktop
[09:51] <jasoon> j/c misc--
[09:52] <JackWinter> ok, got that working, needed to rescan plugins.
[09:52] <jasoon> prob. is it is not seeing your hard disks yes?
[09:52] <jasoon> does gpart even load?
[09:53] <jasoon> yao_ziyua1: where to find these?
[09:53] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: K Menu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations
[09:53] <JackWinter> i have a kubuntu 8.04 system with a rme multiface.  i've managed to install the firmware, and can load it with hdsploader.  however i doesn't load at system start.  the following are the relevant dmesg lines: http://pastebin.ca/1013859
[09:53] <jasoon> k I'm there
[09:53] <jasoon> simple color outline html values
[09:53] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: you have to have kubuntu 8.04
[09:53] <jasoon> yes
[09:54] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: choose Crystal, then go to the Background tab
[09:54] <JackWinter> there must be something wrong with the distribution because this works on other dists...
[09:54] <jasoon> I'm there
[09:54] <yao_ziyua1> in it you will see two smaller tabs: Active and Inactive
[09:54] <jasoon> right
[09:54] <yao_ziyua1> first, in the Active tab, there are 2 color boxes
[09:54] <yao_ziyua1> click them
[09:54] <jasoon> you want the color values?
[09:54] <yao_ziyua1> yes
[09:54] <jasoon> I'm using the inverted option right now
[09:54] <jasoon> should I switch to dull glass?
[09:54] <jasoon> does it matter?
[09:55] <yao_ziyua1> wait
[09:55] <yao_ziyua1> no
[09:55] <jasoon> Active HTML: #C4C3C3
[09:55] <jasoon> Inactive: #C4C3C3
[09:55] <yao_ziyua1> the dull glass thing is specific to QtCurve, which is a Style, not a Window Decoration
[09:55] <jasoon> I gotcha
[09:55] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: what about the second box?
[09:56] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: there are 2 color boxes for Active, 2 for Inactive
[09:56] <misc--> jasoon: sorry, well according to the log it can see the hard disks yes
[09:56] <jasoon> the blur outline yao?
[09:57] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: in the Active tab, you should see two color boxes
[09:57] <yao_ziyua1> one on the left
[09:57] <yao_ziyua1> one on the right
[09:57] <jasoon> sorry, blur outline Active/Inactive: #E6E6E6
[09:57] <jasoon> those are the only 2 activated
[09:57] <misc--> I tried running in debug mode tailing logs etc but there's nothing there of interest. I guess I'll have to download the alternative cd
[09:58] <jasoon> make sure your cd isn't scratched
[09:58] <jasoon> might not be booting up gparted properly
[09:58] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: do this: in the Active tab, choose Simple Outline and Simple Inline, and give me the 2 color values
[09:58] <jasoon> Ah
[09:58] <jasoon> I only have simple outline
[09:59] <yao_ziyua1> what about simple inline?
[09:59] <jasoon> +no outline, sunken, raised
[09:59] <yao_ziyua1> jasoon: look rightward
[09:59] <jasoon> I see
[09:59] <jasoon> blur image setting
[09:59] <yao_ziyua1> yes
[09:59] <jasoon> simple inline
[09:59] <jasoon> k, sec
[10:00] <yao_ziyua1> yes
[10:00] <yao_ziyua1> i need both color values
[10:00] <jasoon> #E6E6E6
[10:00] <jasoon> for active/inactive
[10:00] <jasoon> that's simple inline
[10:00] <yao_ziyua1> what about outline?
[10:00] <jasoon> I gave those, see above
[10:01] <yao_ziyua1> then you seem to have a different environment from mine
[10:01] <yao_ziyua1> anyway i'm downloading the iso to get these back
[10:01] <yao_ziyua1> thanks all the same
[10:02] <jasoon> yup, g/l
[10:02] <jasoon> I'm shleepy
[10:02] <jasoon> off to dreamland with me
[10:02] <jasoon> G'night everyone
[10:02] <LilSarge> lata
[10:03] <daniftodi> hello
[10:03] <LilSarge> hi
[10:03] <daniftodi> i am a problem
[10:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:04] <daniftodi> i am internet CDAM
[10:05] <daniftodi> i can use internet, konqueror not open a page
[10:05] <daniftodi> firewall problem?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> I recall similer issues with KDE and the proxy settings in KDE.
[10:05] <Dr_willis> non-kde apps may not be affected.
[10:06] <daniftodi> no solution?
[10:07] <daniftodi> if use Firefox this problem not apear?
[10:07] <daniftodi> (sorry for my english)
[10:08] <Dr_willis> try firefox and see, I  have seen others have this issue. But never had the problem myself.
[10:09] <daniftodi> ok, i am go to internet cafe for download Firefox
[10:09] <daniftodi> thanks
[10:10] <daniftodi> mp3 playback?
[10:10] <daniftodi> not codec :(
[10:10] <daniftodi> link?
[10:11] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[10:14] <daniftodi> thanks
[10:17] <daniftodi> a php editor and pascal?
[10:17] <daniftodi> Adope Photoshop for linux?
[10:19] <daniftodi> ??
[10:19] <Dr_willis> php is just text. - as for pascal - thers dozens of languages out for linux. I imagine thers some pascal compilers out.
[10:19] <Dr_willis> I use gimp to edit images, or try wine and photoshop if you MUST use photoshop
[10:20] <daniftodi> pascal in wine worK?
[10:20] <Dr_willis> pascal is a language. not a program.
[10:20] <Dr_willis> !find pascal
[10:20] <Dr_willis> !info gpc
[10:20] <daniftodi> i am use a school a windows program
[10:21] <daniftodi> view erors red
[10:21] <daniftodi> erors colored in red
[10:21] <daniftodi> dreamvears in linux work?
[10:22] <daniftodi> dreamveawers *
[10:23] <Dr_willis> linux is not windows. If you want to run windows apps in linux, you must use WINE or one of the wine variants
[10:23] <Dr_willis> !wine
[10:23] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[10:25] <[Lightning]> use FreePascal :)
[10:25] <[Lightning]> it's much more compattible than GPC
[10:26] <[Lightning]> it even supports Delphi syntax with Lazarus IDE
[10:26] <marne> wie heisst das programm, für die akku-überwachung bei kde 3.5 ?
[10:26] <jussi01> !de | marne
[10:27] <marne> damn, im sorry, i thought to be in ubuntu-DE
[10:27] <marne> ok, in english ;), can someone say me  the name of the programm, which is showing the akku in kde3
[10:28] <marne> oh it means battery...
[10:29] <lupinsky> marne:klaptop
[10:29] <marne> thanks lupinsky
[10:30] <lupinsky> marne:6.06
[10:30] <marne> i cant find klaptop
[10:30] <marne> i have hardy
[10:31] <lupinsky> sorry but i still have 6.06
[10:32] <marne> ah okay =)
[10:32] <Y-Town> anyone know why "knotify" is launched everytime I load "konversation" on ubuntu?
[10:36] <Y-Town> any ideas?
[10:36] <jussi01> Y-Town: yeah, it provides those lovely little popup in the taskbar when you get hilighted
[10:37] <Y-Town> jussi01: So I guess its good to have  :o)
[10:37] <jussi01> Y-Town: yeps :)
[10:37] <Y-Town> thanx bud  :o)
[10:38] <ganastasiou> hello everyone
[10:39] <jussi01> !hi | ganastasiou
[10:40] <ganastasiou> i have a dsl connection on my laptop with usb modem connected.I made it work the usb modem and i have some questions about how to Share this connection to a desktop via lan
[10:40] <jussi01> !ics
[10:41] <ganastasiou> !ics
[10:41] <ganastasiou> what is this?
[10:42] <ganastasiou> i have USB modem not modem router...
[10:42] <JoshOvki> ganastasiou: !ics is a command for the bot to give information about internet connection sharing
[10:42] <ganastasiou> ok but the infos gave me are for routers not for usb modems
[10:42] <Lardarse> ganastasiou: i ahev a usb modem as well... ubuntu sees it as a secodn network cad (eth1), yours may be the same
[10:43] <Lardarse> second network card*
[10:43] <ganastasiou> i have a usb modem...not a moder router connected with usb
[10:43] <JoshOvki> ganastasiou: did you look at the link?
[10:43] <ganastasiou> thats sth else
[10:44] <ganastasiou> yes but only for network interfaces says
[10:44] <Lardarse> ganastasiou: how does ubunu see your modem?
[10:44] <Lardarse> ubuntu*
[10:46] <ganastasiou> i have no idea if that helps u i do to connect pon "provider name"
[10:47] <JoshOvki> ganastasiou: if you read the content of the links given by ubottu (and jussi01) it will give you the information you need
[10:49] <ganastasiou> if i didnt make a mistake where is it talking about usb modem?what kind of interface is it?
[10:50] <JoshOvki> the usb modem will show up as a network device. if you run  ifconfig  you will probly see   lo  ath0  and ppoa0   or something like that
[10:50] <JoshOvki> run    ifconfig    in terminal
[10:51] <ganastasiou> comming back in 10 minutes to say my news
[10:51] <ganastasiou> thnx for your help ;)
[10:57] <ganastasiou_> back
[10:57] <ganastasiou_> ifconfig show ppp0
[10:58] <ganastasiou_> can someone read with me the guide to make it work so i dont have a problem please?
[11:03] <JoshOvki> ganastasiou_: its step by step, you cant really go wrong
[11:04] <ganastasiou_> im trying with firestarter first and then go by your way
[11:05] <Dr_willis> This is a Dialup USB Modem eh?
[11:06] <cosimo> ciao a tutti
[11:06] <ganastasiou_> yeah
[11:07] <ganastasiou_> dr willis
[11:08] <Dr_willis> well step 1 would be getting it seen as a dial up modem. and dialing. :)
[11:08] <Dr_willis> then actually dialing the isp. I guess
[11:08] <Dr_willis> Ive not used a dialup modem in ages
[11:08] <Dr_willis> !dialup
[11:09] <ganastasiou_> i have made it work...now im talking to u im through this
[11:09] <ganastasiou_> yes but i had a problem with my router so till i buy a new one i should try this
[11:09] <ganastasiou_> and why not learn it also
[11:09] <Dr_willis> since you are on dialup, we have to talk S  l  o   w  l   y . :)
[11:09] <ganastasiou_> dialup modem DSL connection
[11:10] <bleck> how can I get the current kernel config so I can compile my own using a template?
[11:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. DSL was not the same as dialup last i looked.
[11:10] <Dr_willis> DSL used the same phone lines. but you dident actually Dial.
[11:11] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[11:12] <LimCore> I do not have the monitor section in kde (kcontorl) how to get it (ubuntu)
[11:13] <bleck> aah yes, apt-get source linux-image-....
[11:13] <bleck> thanks
[11:15] <digitalpsyko> !nvidia
[11:18] <daniftodi> what install firefox?
[11:18] <ganastasiou_> I MADE IT WITH FIRESTARTER ITS THE BEST OPTION FOR THIS
[11:18] <ganastasiou_> THNX ALL SORRY FOR MY CAPS
[11:19] <daniftodi> what install a aplication?
[11:20] <xbboyrewindx> Daniftodi what are you on about?
[11:20] <emilsedgh> daniftodi: you want to install firefox? Menu->System->Adept Manager
[11:20] <daniftodi> thanks
[11:20] <gilo> apt-get install firefox
[11:21] <Ayabara> I managed to remove the top menu (file, settings..) in digikam. How do I put it back?
[11:21] <gilo> on the console
[11:21] <daniftodi> internet dial-up :( (apt-get install firefox )
[11:21] <digitalpsyko> i need to install drivers for an 8800gt 512
[11:21] <gilo> it works anyway
[11:21] <digitalpsyko> on 8.04 hh
[11:22] <gilo> just take a little more time
[11:22] <daniftodi> in romanian ubuntu irc??
[11:22] <gilo> um dois tres quatro
[11:22] <xbboyrewindx> You know you can actually find your solutions online by googling
[11:23] <digitalpsyko> ive looked friend
[11:23] <digitalpsyko> link me and i'll read till my eyes bleed
[11:23] <digitalpsyko> :)
[11:23] <jussi01> !envy
[11:23] <jussi01> digitalpsyko: read UNSUPPORTED
[11:23] <gilo> dont be a pain in the arsse xbboyrewindx
[11:24] <xbboyrewindx> google like How to install drivers for an 8800gt 512 on kubuntu 8.04 or something like that
[11:28] <daniftodi> i am firefox, what install? (sory for my english)
[11:28] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[11:29] <JoshOvki> !ro
[11:29] <AntonioMonga> apt-get install firefox
[11:30] <XanatosR> just curious, what does the livecd use as storage while its in use?
[11:30] <daniftodi> if i am firefox downloaded, i need to install only
[11:30] <AntonioMonga> apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro
[11:30] <jussi01> XanatosR: a ram disk iirc
[11:30] <AntonioMonga> do this in the console
[11:30] <AntonioMonga> a then
[11:30] <AntonioMonga> update-menus
[11:31] <AntonioMonga> i also have a problem
[11:31] <AntonioMonga> i managed to fuck my USB devices
[11:31] <AntonioMonga> i cant mount them anymore
[11:32] <XanatosR> thanks jussi01
[11:32] <jussi01> !ohmy | AntonioMonga
[11:33] <daniftodi> unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg) are you root?
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> do this
[11:34] <daniftodi> in console, apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> su -+
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> su -
[11:34] <jussi01> daniftodi: add sudo in front of the command
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> sudo is stupid
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> just do
[11:34] <jussi01> AntonioMonga: please dont recomend that
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> su -
[11:34] <AntonioMonga> first
[11:34] <jussi01> If you must have a root console, use sudo -i
[11:35] <AntonioMonga> sorry jussi01
[11:35] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[11:35] <jussi01> daniftodi: so do: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox-locale-ro-ro
[11:36] <daniftodi> :(, in romanian: nu pot gasi pachetul mozilla-firefox-local-ro-ro
[11:37] <jussi01> daniftodi: ok, do: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:37] <jussi01> (we can worry about the language later)
[11:38] <daniftodi> Pachetul firefox nu are nici un canditat la instalare
[11:39] <jussi01> daniftodi: hrm, do you have all the repos enabled (kmenu-system-adept-adept menu - manage repositories)
[11:39] <AntonioMonga> jussi01
[11:39] <AntonioMonga> can you help me
[11:39] <jussi01> AntonioMonga: whats the issue?
[11:40] <AntonioMonga> whit the usb stuff
[11:40] <AntonioMonga> i was trying to plug in my Aivx
[11:40] <AntonioMonga> which is a tv box
[11:40] <AntonioMonga> an hard-disk
[11:40] <AntonioMonga> in the core
[11:40] <jussi01> !enter | AntonioMonga
[11:41] <AntonioMonga> ok
[11:42] <AntonioMonga>  jussi01
[11:43] <AntonioMonga> now i cant mount the usb stick
[11:43] <daniftodi> Mozilla Firefox English language/region package - instaled (in Adept Manager)
[11:43] <daniftodi> run?
[11:43] <AntonioMonga> daniftodi you can run now
[11:44] <daniftodi> what?
[11:44] <AntonioMonga> run
[11:45] <AntonioMonga> are you sure it's installed ?
[11:46] <daniftodi> mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb
[11:46] <daniftodi> status: installed
[11:46] <AntonioMonga> then it should run
[11:46] <daniftodi> how start?
[11:46] <AntonioMonga> then it should run
[11:47] <AntonioMonga> aplications -> internet ->
[11:47] <jussi01> daniftodi: kmenu- internet - firefox ?
[11:47] <AntonioMonga> yes
[11:47] <daniftodi> no firefox in kmenu-internet-
[11:48] <AntonioMonga> you have a console open ?
[11:48] <daniftodi> yes
[11:50] <AntonioMonga> write in the console        update-menus
[11:50] <daniftodi> i can open a webpage witch konqueror?
[11:50] <AntonioMonga> yes
[11:51] <AntonioMonga> it's stupid
[11:51] <AntonioMonga> but yes
[11:51] <AntonioMonga> i mean konqueror
[11:51] <AntonioMonga> i dont like konqueror
[11:51] <daniftodi> An error occurred while loading http://www.orange.md/:
[11:51] <ganastasiou_> firefox ftw
[11:51] <daniftodi> Could not connect to host http://www.orange.md/.
[11:52] <daniftodi> bash: update-menus: command not found
[11:52] <AntonioMonga> wow
[11:52] <AntonioMonga> i dont understand, i'm a newbie anyway
[11:52] <daniftodi> messenger and irc work, konqeror dot cand open webpage
[11:53] <AntonioMonga> i probably shoudn't even be here giving advice
[11:53] <AntonioMonga> daniftodi
[11:53] <AntonioMonga> try to open
[11:53] <AntonioMonga> www.google.com
[11:54] <scarygary> Anyone else having problems with kdm-kde4 since the 4.0.4 upgrade?
[11:54] <jussi01> scarygary: suggest you try in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:54] <PhilRod> ah, that sounds reasonable
[11:54] <daniftodi> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/:
[11:54] <daniftodi> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[11:55] <PhilRod> oops, wrong channel
[11:55] <scarygary> jussi: Great idea. =)
[11:55] <daniftodi> only icon is loaded
[11:55] <AntonioMonga> haha PhilRod you shit your pants
[11:56] <daniftodi> only google icon is loaded
[11:56] <JoshOvki> !language | AntonioMonga
[11:57] <AntonioMonga> just kiding
[11:58] <AntonioMonga> relax
[11:59] <daniftodi> help me
[12:01] <PhilRod> does khotkeys work in gutsy for anyone else?
[12:04] <xbboyrewindx> Blah firefox is no good on ubuntu <_<;
[12:05] <daniftodi> apt-get install opera work?
[12:11] <digitalpsyko> decent torrent client for kubuntu?
[12:11] <AntonioMonga> firefox is the best on ubuntu
[12:11] <AntonioMonga> azureus
[12:11] <digitalpsyko> azureus
[12:11] <digitalpsyko> ok
[12:11] <digitalpsyko> thanks
[12:12] <digitalpsyko> im must say this new 8.04 is really nice
[12:12] <digitalpsyko> :)
[12:12] <xbboyrewindx> sorry but firefox is not the best on ubuntu lol
[12:12] <daniftodi> for install a aplication, drag&drop in adept manager ?
[12:12] <xbboyrewindx> it crashes a lot
[12:14] <daniftodi> !antoniomonga
[12:16] <AntonioMonga> never crashed whit me
[12:17] <AntonioMonga> maybe your not using 8.04
[12:17] <xbboyrewindx> Uhm dude i am using 8.04
[12:17] <eagle__> hi all
[12:17] <xbboyrewindx> It crashes with flash
[12:18] <xbboyrewindx> especially on myspace profiles that haves a lot of flash videos on them
[12:20] <AntonioMonga> so
[12:20] <AntonioMonga> what's better ?
[12:20] <JoshOvki> !better
[12:21] <AntonioMonga> eat my shorts bot
[12:21] <ere4si> !bot
[12:21] <xbboyrewindx> Hmm i say opera but then again what the bot said lol
[12:22] <daniftodi> !opera
[12:24] <AntonioMonga> ok
[12:24] <AntonioMonga> it crashed now on a flash lolol
[12:24] <|Dreams|> whats the package for the make install etc
[12:24] <xbboyrewindx> rofl told you man
[12:25] <xbboyrewindx> a lot of people been having that problem on ubuntu with firefox using flash
[12:25] <AntonioMonga> gona try something else
[12:26] <AntonioMonga> that's maybe ubuntu problem
[12:26] <JoshOvki> looks like a flash problem to me
[12:26] <xbboyrewindx> hmm really?
[12:26] <AntonioMonga> not
[12:26] <xbboyrewindx> cuz i know on windows it's no problem
[12:26] <AntonioMonga> if it works on windows
[12:26] <AntonioMonga> it should work here
[12:27] <JoshOvki> not if your flash installed went screwed
[12:27] <JoshOvki> AntonioMonga: just because things work on windows doesnt mean they work everywhere ;)
[12:27] <AntonioMonga> ok
[12:27] <xbboyrewindx> what you mean my flash installed went screwed?
[12:28] <xbboyrewindx> it's fine
[12:28] <xbboyrewindx> it's just a firefox thing
[12:28] <AntonioMonga> i just assume that windows is so basic
[12:28] <AntonioMonga> that if something works there should work anywhere
[12:28] <AntonioMonga> so basic or so stupid complex
[12:28] <xbboyrewindx> but then agian put in mind that ubuntu is NOT windows lol
[12:29] <JoshOvki> have you installed flashplugin-nonfree   ?
[12:29] <xbboyrewindx> uhm yes man
[12:29] <xbboyrewindx> of course i have lol
[12:29] <xbboyrewindx> Like i said it's a firefox thing
[12:29] <xbboyrewindx> It has to do with firefox and ubuntu
[12:30] <xbboyrewindx> and probably the way firefox handles the flash plugin on ubuntu
[12:30] <xbboyrewindx> cuz on that opera beta version it works fine
[12:30] <daniftodi> download firefox with apt-get install firefox :D
[12:30] <JoshOvki> xbboyrewindx: what version of FF are you using?
[12:30] <AntonioMonga> opera ?
[12:30] <xbboyrewindx> the one that comes on 8.04
[12:31] <xsacha> adobe doesnt like us antonio :P
[12:31] <xbboyrewindx> Firefox 3 Beta 5 or something?
[12:31] <xbboyrewindx> try it out yourself lol try flash on firefox
[12:31] <JoshOvki> xbboyrewindx: when you went to the site did it get you to install the package
[12:31] <xbboyrewindx> play around youtube and watch firefox crash
[12:31] <JoshOvki> i have and it works perfectly fine
[12:31] <xbboyrewindx> no it doesn't
[12:31] <JoshOvki> umm... yes it does
[12:31] <xbboyrewindx> cuz i already have flashplugin-nonfree
[12:32] <Dr_willis> i cant recall any flash issues either
[12:32] <JoshOvki> you just told me to try it out, and i already have tryed it out on my system and it works perfectly fine
[12:32] <AntonioMonga> where's opera
[12:32] <AntonioMonga> ?
[12:32] <Dr_willis> !opera
[12:32] <xbboyrewindx> well that's weird
[12:32] <xbboyrewindx> because i know a heck of a lot of people experiencing the same problem
[12:33] <xsacha> yeah opera uses Qt, runs perfect on amd64 and flash works fine on 32-bit and 64-bit version
[12:33] <Dr_willis> and its very hard to track down.
[12:33] <xsacha> cant wait for their Qt4 version :)
[12:34] <xbboyrewindx> Do you guys even go to flash sites a lot on firefox?
[12:35] <xbboyrewindx> go to a flash site on firefox...and just surf around then on the same tab try going to another webiste
[12:35] <xbboyrewindx> see if it crashes on you
[12:36] <JoshOvki> xbboyrewindx: youtube and bbc iplasyer
[12:36] <JoshOvki> *bbc iplayer
[12:37] <xbboyrewindx> what about them?
[12:37] <JoshOvki> both heavy flash sites that i use with FF
[12:37] <xbboyrewindx> i see you might have one powerful computer then
[12:37] <mike__> hi Leute ^
[12:38] <mike__> ist wer da ?
[12:38] <JoshOvki> its not that powerfull at all
[12:38] <mike__> hi
[12:39] <mike__> hmmm sorry, i new  -.-
[12:39] <JoshOvki> !hi | mike__
[12:39] <xbboyrewindx> Well idk about you but to a lot of people this is happening
[12:40] <edgar_> hola alguien sabe q paso con irc kubuntu-es
[12:40] <mike__> can someone here german ?
[12:40] <sorriso2095> salve
[12:40] <sorriso2095> italiy??'
[12:40] <JoshOvki> !german
[12:41] <mike__> THX ^
[12:41] <xbboyrewindx> and josh the other guy wants to know what happened to the spanish channel of irc
[12:41] <mike__> halli hallo an alle ^
[12:41] <xbboyrewindx> of kubuntu
[12:42] <xbboyrewindx> well josh maybe one day you'll experience firefox crash on you...but who knows
[12:42] <mike__> ist hier jemand der deutsch kann ? oder bin ich immer noch im im falschen CH ?
[12:42] <JoshOvki> its still there just quiet
[12:43] <JoshOvki> xbboyrewindx: maby i will, but its very unlikaly as its currently working, because if it does i have my debian desktop to fall backon
[12:43] <xbboyrewindx> Well guess it's all depends on your specs and your settings who knows
[12:43] <mike__> is someone here who knews to get woring a Pinnacle E330 USB tuner ?
[12:44] <xbboyrewindx> Not every person experiences the same things
[12:44] <xbboyrewindx> but i know a lot of people that are experiencing it
[12:45] <mike__> hi to all ^ ^
[12:45] <JoshOvki> xbboyrewindx: i know not every one experiences the same thing, and i also know that some people have had problems with flash. but you where expecting everyone to be having the problem and not just some
[12:46] <crazy_bus> how to I get a software install link that works on normal ubuntu to open in adept e.g. this one http://mythbuntu.org/download/getmythbuntu.php
[12:46] <JackWinter> !es | edgar_
[12:46] <mike__> wer da ?
[12:47] <JackWinter> !gr | mike__
[12:47] <xbboyrewindx> well i thought everyone would be experiencing the same problem
[12:47] <JackWinter> !de | mike__
[12:48] <mike__> sorry to all here !!!
[12:49] <crazy_bus> nm found out how
[12:52] <vishah> I'm unable to upgrade to KDE 4.0.4 by following the instructions in kubuntu.org. "File Not Found" <-- Is this a joke?..heh
[12:53] <daniftodi> nero for linux?
[12:53] <JackWinter> daniftodi: k3b
[12:54] <daniftodi> brasero ??
[12:56] <JackWinter> daniftodi: you are using kde no ?  brasero is normally used under gnome, and k3b under kde.  check it out, good program and integrated into your desktop...
[12:56] <JackWinter> !k3b | daniftodi
[13:02]  * NibiruET is away: Gone away for now.
[13:04]  * NibiruET is away: Gone away for now.
[13:42] <crazy_bus> The default font for me in OOo in Liberation Serif.  yet ttf-liberation isn't installed.  Is this normal as ttf-liberation is in multiverse
[13:46] <crazy_bus> ah found the answer nm
[13:47] <BabyTux> #kubuntu-de
[13:58] <misc--> hello, I want to replace kde on my kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4, is that possible? I did download kde 4 via apt but kde 3 is also installed. It looks like the kde 4 programs have been installed but if I right click on the task bar and select help -> about kde, it shows 3.5.9 still. Any ideas how to actually get it to load v4?
[13:59] <sorriso2095> salve
[14:07] <bibstha> cannot for the life of me get the java applet working  :(
[14:09] <bibstha> what do i have to do to get applets working?
[14:32] <nAgoHaK> whete can I download latest kubuntu kde4 ?
[14:32] <sivaji> !kde
[14:33] <nAgoHaK> !kubuntu
[14:39] <flaccid> misc--: you select KDM 4 from the login screen dropdown before login
[14:41] <misc--> flaccid: oh right ok thanks, must have missed that
[14:41] <misc--> will try now.
[14:45] <misc--> flaccid: that's better.. geez, big difference
[14:51] <ForsakenSoul> hi can someone tell me what I can open a .chm file with
[14:51] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[14:52] <IppatsuMan> ForsakenSoul: kchmviewer
[14:52] <sivaji> ForsakenSoul .chm is a compiled webpage you need to install firefox addon for reading that
[14:52] <emilsedgh> ForsakenSoul: kchmviewer in kde3 or Okular in kde4
[14:53] <ForsakenSoul> thanks
[14:53] <Dr_willis> or a chm viewer app.
[14:53] <Jucato> (if our okular is compiled with chm support)
[14:53] <Jucato> that's what kchmviewer and okular are :)
[14:53] <ForsakenSoul> hey Dr_willis long time no see :D
[14:53] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[14:53] <IppatsuMan> I don't think that Okular in KDE 4.0.3 in Kubuntu 8.04 already supports chm
[14:53] <Dr_willis> it is? Heck i could of talked to you yesterday for all i can rember these days.
[14:54] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis well it was about 2 weeks aho :D
[14:54] <ForsakenSoul> ago*
[14:55] <Jucato> IppatsuMan: if you install okular-extra-backends-kde4, it will have chm support
[14:56] <IppatsuMan> Jucato: I didn't knew that, thanks for the tip :)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:07] <kristian_> hi BluesKaj
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Happy Mother's Day to any mothers here :)
[15:13] <cello> ciau
[15:19] <yakuzi> are there people here with good knowledge of fstab? because i've a problem with auto mounting a fat32 partition on boot so i can use it as data partition, sometimes it's not mounted after boot, sometimes it is, but i don't have write rights, and sometimes it dismounts without i did something :s
[15:19] <yakuzi> fstab look in kwrite:
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[15:19] <yakuzi> #
[15:19] <yakuzi> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[15:19] <yakuzi> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda8
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=23dd2bcb-f81b-43c9-9fcc-ced7049a1112 / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda7
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=c48c2cd6-6526-4902-afdd-d0b7fe6c6408 /boot ext2 nouser,relatime,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda6
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=e2fea362-e42a-4962-8487-574b34c53531 none swap sw 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> /dev/sda5 /media/data auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:20] <daniftodi> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/daniftodi/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[15:20] <Dr_willis> daniftodi,  you ran the file manager as root. and now root owns the bookmark file
[15:20] <crazy_bus> I downloaded the ubuntu alt cd to try and use as a software source to install ubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu.  However it still wants to download 239mb's.  How do I stop this?
[15:21] <Dr_willis> using  root/sudo access delete that file.
[15:21] <Jucato> crazy_bus: disable the online repositories and enable the cdrom repo
[15:21] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  theres a lot ofupdates to the packages on the cd. many are security  updates  You really MIGHT want to let it download them.
[15:21] <crazy_bus> Jucato: I tried that
[15:22] <crazy_bus> Dr_willis: this is on a computer that is offline for the moment
[15:22] <Jucato> once you've done that, it will say that it will "download" packages.. but in reality it will download it from the cd :)
[15:22] <Dr_willis> rember after altering the sources.list - you must rerun apt-get update.. right? even if its on the cd..
[15:22] <Jucato> uhuh
[15:24] <crazy_bus> Jucato: so it lies about how much it needs to download.  I see.  Testing now
[15:24] <Jucato> hm?
[15:24] <Jucato> 239mb.. dunno if that's a lie..
[15:24] <Dr_willis> its downloading from the 'cd' :)
[15:25] <Jucato> it's definitely not downloading the size of a full CD installer
[15:25] <crazy_bus> in my mind copying from a cd is not downloading.  Internet is
[15:25] <Dr_willis> I love it when it says 'will download 500mb, after install 1 addationam mb of space will be used' - Why not just download that 1 mb then! :)
[15:25] <Jucato> crazy_bus: in your mind. for APT. it's "downloading" from a repository source... which just happens to be offline on your CD
[15:25] <crazy_bus> I wish it would tell you how much you have to download off the internet so I can schedule on my slow internet
[15:26] <Jucato> it does. doesn't it?
[15:26] <crazy_bus> Jucato: yes, in a way.  But if that computer was on the internet I wouldn't know how much would be off the cd and how much as a download
[15:27] <Lardarse> what's the prefered way to stop X without restarting it straight away?
[15:27] <Jucato> crazy_bus: um.. I thought the online repos were already disabled?
[15:27] <Jucato> Lardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[15:28] <Jucato> (if you're using kdm... replace with gdm or xdm as necessary)
[15:28] <Lardarse> and start to restart it?
[15:28] <Lardarse> ok
[15:28] <Lardarse> thanks
[15:28] <Jucato> Lardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[15:28] <Jucato> to simply restart, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[15:29] <B|nTaRa> where can i get documention about Atheros wifi card ?
[15:30] <crazy_bus> Jucato: they are, but hypothetically speaking about another computer
[15:30] <Jucato> crazy_bus: then disable it there too? just to be sure
[15:31] <TheGentleman> why can't I play a music CD on Kubuntu Hardy ?  I mean a normal commercial music CD, not mp3.
[15:31] <B|nTaRa> and also where can i get documention about nvidia geforce 7000m , seem like kubuntu aint support it \
[15:31] <crazy_bus> I know you can share updates over a network.  But can you share them over a usb stick?  Or do you have to manually download each file off packages.ubuntu.....
[15:31] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  thers several ways you can share them on a local network
[15:31] <Dr_willis> you can install an apt-cache sort of service on one box.
[15:32] <Dr_willis> and point the others to it.  is one way to do it.
[15:32] <JoshOvki> B|nTaRa: most atheros wifi cards are supported by madwifi
[15:32] <JoshOvki> !madwifi | B|nTaRa
[15:32] <crazy_bus> Dr_willis: I knew about that.  What I was asking was without a network
[15:32] <Dr_willis> Thers the apt-cd tools.
[15:33] <Dr_willis> but i have never used those.  Beng with out a network in this day and age is like.. being without a.. err....   Hmm....
[15:33] <yakuzi> problem seems to be solved...(i added a folder  /media/data, maybe that did the trick) i hope it is solved..Even after next reboot
[15:33] <Dr_willis> I cant think of a good example horriable enough  :)
[15:33] <Lardarse> ok... since that didn't do what i expected it to: is there any reason why gutsy would be able to automatically detect (and use) a video mode that hardy hasn't automatically detected?
[15:34] <Dr_willis> hardy is using a minimal-auto-confioguring X  feature/method.  that often gets things wrong.
[15:34] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: hmm?
[15:34] <Dr_willis> gutsy detects stuff and makes a xorg.conf   hardy has a newer X that dont work the same way
[15:35] <Dr_willis> compare the xorg.conf file from gutsy, with one from hardy. The one in hardy is  missing a great many   entries.
[15:35] <Lardarse> that might explain why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't do what i hoped it would
[15:35] <ubuntu_> Salut
[15:35] <crazy_bus> so I can create a apt cd with dpkg-scanpackages and it will put every package I have installed into a file?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> Lardarse,  You got it. that command dont really do much in hardy any more.
[15:35] <ubuntu_> anyone could help me
[15:35] <Lardarse> !ask | ubuntu_
[15:36] <ubuntu_> ok, so amarok can't play mp3
[15:36] <Dr_willis> mine can.
[15:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:36] <Lardarse> ubuntu_: i asked that question in here about 8 hours ago...
[15:36] <ubuntu_> i must download something but i don't know where (i'm a neewbie, i have installed kubuntu for a few minutes)
[15:36] <Lardarse> let me see if i can find the answer
[15:36] <Dr_willis> install kubuntu-restricted-extras package ?
[15:37] <ubuntu_> (i also realize that my keyboard dont do any point or others things -_-)
[15:37] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: yes, but there was a bot response, which is just outside of 1500 lines of scrollback
[15:38] <Lardarse> !restricted
[15:38] <Lardarse> good guess :-)
[15:38] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[15:38] <ubuntu_> i'm going to read that
[15:39] <crazy_bus> thanks for everyones answers.  I have to go and I need to restart my login for a program I'm installing
[15:39] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: so how do i look into enabling the screen resolutions that i had ~ 6 hours ago?
[15:42] <uga> hi there, is anybody having issues with usbfs? somehow I get errors like "[ 1293.741734] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" or  [  495.016077] scsi 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense not available.
[15:42] <uga> it used to work fine on this box in the past, so I wonder what happenned, either hal changes or kernel changes...
[15:42] <uga> something is very broken here
[15:42] <ubuntu_> where can i see quiclky which version of ubuntu i have ,
[15:44] <TheGentleman> If I insert a music CD in my PC running Kubuntu Hardy, the usual pop-up comes out offering several choices. I choose "Play with Amarock"  but nothing happens!!
[15:45] <Lardarse> ubuntu_: usually with uname, but i forget which option you need
[15:45] <uga> Lardarse: that will show the kernel build
[15:45] <uga> (uname -a)
[15:45] <uga> but not the distribution he installed
[15:45] <TheGentleman> so I went to see the properties from the  Audio CD icon on the desktop, and what i read really puzzles me:
[15:46] <Lardarse> uga: then i donm't know.. perhaps look for specific files?
[15:47] <TheGentleman> The "general" tab reports it mounted on /media  while Extended information reports it as /dev/scd0
[15:47] <uga> ubuntu_: cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:47] <uga> Lardarse: ^^
[15:48] <Lardarse> uga: noted
[15:48] <techbw> hi all
[15:48] <Ghittsum> good morning
[15:49] <TheGentleman> How the hell do I play an AudioCD using Kubuntu Hardy?
[15:49] <uga> arf, the issue is as old as shit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/102044
[15:51] <techbw> when I want to change network settings, I go to system settings, network, and click administrate, but system does not bring up the administrative password box...what could be the cause for this?
[15:51] <techbw> at the moment I have to edit the network config files manually for the settings to be saved for bootup, but would like the GUI administration working.
[15:54] <biopod> hi everyone
[15:54] <biopod> anyone from Denmark?
[15:54] <techbw> hi biopod
[15:54] <TheGentleman> What do I need to play an AudioCD using Kubuntu hardy?  I'm not able to play it, while mp3 files are played as expected
[15:55] <Lardarse> !dk | biopod
[15:55] <Lardarse> TheGentleman: what's the error?
[15:55] <siofwolves> TheGentleman, have you tried Amorak?
[15:55] <techbw> if you have an audio cd, make sure you have your audio cable pluged into you cd rom...that cable must also be pluged into your motherboard, or your sound card if you have pci sound card
[15:56] <TheGentleman> of course i did... Amarok plays any mp3 or ogg file i have
[15:56] <biopod> actaully, i dont speak danish, just wanted to see if there was someone from Denmark to ask him something, but I'll go as there.
[15:56] <TheGentleman> my problem is that it seems that i can't mount an Audio CD
[15:57] <Lardarse> biopod: i won't ask whast the last sentence (about english) was, then :-)
[15:58] <TimS> Can K3B split files over multiple disks? If I ask it to burn my music collection to DVDs, will it know to put the first 4.1 gig on one disk, then the next 4.1gig on a second disk?
[15:59] <crazy_bus> I need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?
[16:02] <TheGentleman> How do I mount an Audio CD to play it ?
[16:02] <techbw> TheGentleman: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4588675 check this site out
[16:02] <techbw> might help
[16:03] <TheGentleman> thanks techbw
[16:03] <jmichaelx> is anyone else just experiencing random temporary freezes in hardy?
[16:04] <sivaji> jmichaelx no
[16:06] <techbw> TheGentleman: no problem.
[16:07] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:08] <theunixgeek> If I install the kde4 package in Ubuntu, will I get KDE 4.0.4 (the latest version)?
[16:09] <Jucato> theunixgeek: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php
[16:10] <theunixgeek> Jucato: thanks :)
[16:10] <theunixgeek> thanks for the info :
[16:10] <theunixgeek> :)
[16:17] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:18] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:18] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:31] <fidelio> hi. quick question for my printer.  Test page goes through.  But cannot print any doc
[16:32] <JoshOvki> fidelio: make sure that the program you are using is pointed to the printer and not to a pdf writer
[16:33] <fidelio> josh: I can see the preview and select the proper printer..but nothing happens
[16:33] <JoshOvki> fidelio: have you restarted since installing the printer
[16:34] <fidelio> yes
[16:34] <JoshOvki> fidelio: which program?
[16:34] <lumm> nutzt hier jemand karamba mit liquid weather++?
[16:34] <lumm> wie bekomm ich den °F in °C ?
[16:34] <fidelio> joh.: any text editor
[16:34] <lumm> ups wrong chan
[16:34] <lumm> :D
[16:37] <JoshOvki> fidelio: which ones have you tried? and have you tryed a very basic file with like "test" written in it?
[16:38] <fidelio> josh. For example, office, gedit and yes...simple text tried.  Again, test page is perfect
[16:40] <JoshOvki> so just one file isnt printing?
[16:43] <JoshOvki> fidelio: you can see if any errors happen when trying to print over commmand with      lp
[16:43] <JoshOvki> also what printer is it?
[16:43] <fidelio> josh.  nothing get printed.
[16:43] <fidelio> not familiar with direct command..can you elaborate?
[16:44] <fidelio> canon PIXMA ip 6600d
[16:44] <fidelio> cups find the printer and everythign seems to be setup correctly
[16:48] <fidelio> josh. I wonder where the docs I am tryingto print end  up.
[16:48] <JoshOvki> fidelio: very odd problem. i cant find any sort of relevent data about this problem
[16:48] <JoshOvki> yeh i do to
[16:49] <JoshOvki> not making duplicates in the folder the file is saved in does it?
[16:49] <fidelio> I serached the web extensively before joing this chat and i could not find anythign either
[16:50] <JoshOvki> fidelio: i found one thread that matches the problem but no one posted a solution
[16:51] <sparr__> how can i configure aptitude to function more like apt-get, in terms of which packages to add/remove?
[16:51] <PhilRod> fidelio: is /tmp full? I saw a similar problem when that happened on one system
[16:53] <PhilRod> fidelio: can you print using lpr on the command line? (lpr some_simple_text_file)
[16:53] <JoshOvki> sparr__: why not just use apt-get ?
[16:53] <sivaji> use http://localhost:/631 for webased interface
[16:54] <sivaji> sorry  http://localhost:631
[16:54] <llutz> sparr__: why would you like to castrate aptitude?
[16:54] <sparr__> llutz: because its trying to remove hundreds of packages
[16:54] <sparr__> JoshOvki: i want to try out aptitude for a while
[16:55] <Simonft> when trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found
[16:56] <fidelio> phi: not sure how to see if /tmp is full
[16:57] <fidelio> phil: will try with lpr
[16:57] <llutz> fidelio: "df -h /tmp"
[16:58] <sparr__> llutz: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install 14 packages and upgrade 104.  aptitude dist-upgrade wants to install 34, upgrade 112, and *uninstall* 221, and i really like some of those 221
[16:58] <fidelio> tmp 61% used
[16:59] <stuq> morning all
[16:59] <Jucato> sparr__: by default, aptitude will install (merely) recommended packages as if they were necessary. using -R will turn that off
[16:59] <stuq> is there some know difficulty with add a user in kubuntu hardy?
[16:59] <llutz> sparr__: first set "Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";" in ~/.aptitude/config
[16:59] <stuq> I'm using kuser.. and having all sorts of problems
[16:59] <Jucato> oh there :)
[16:59] <sparr__> fidelio: depending on the size of your /tmp you might be worried about 61%...  if its a 5GB tmp then a single dvd image to be burned could cause that.   next do "du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n"
[16:59] <crazy_bus> I need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?
[16:59] <Simonft> ﻿when trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found
[17:00] <stdin> Simonft: you need http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc
[17:00] <sparr__> Jucato: -R does not affect the uninstall count.  it cuts out half the new installs, which i dont really care about.
[17:00] <fidelio> phil: lpr works
[17:00] <Simonft> stdin: bash: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[17:00] <sparr__> crazy_bus: there is a decent chance that your firefox profile is updated, and youll have to start over to use FF2 again
[17:01] <sparr__> afk hours
[17:01] <stdin> Simonft: it's a website, open it in a browser
[17:01] <Jucato> sparr__: oh I thought you were talking about installing (which was in your example). yeah aptitude tries to be "smart" in that way...
[17:01] <Simonft> stdin: i am an idiot, just relized that. :)
[17:02] <crazy_bus> sparr__: I still have my profile.  I  just don't know which files to delete to reconstuct the menus
[17:03] <fidelio> sparr. done it du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n...now what?
[17:03] <llutz> sparr__: http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude#comment-210
[17:03] <Haemogoblin> hey there
[17:04] <Haemogoblin> any of you dudes telll me how i installed a downloaded app in linux
[17:04] <JoshOvki> Haemogoblin: depends what format the app is
[17:05] <Haemogoblin> i've just downloaded zinf
[17:05] <Haemogoblin> from their website
[17:06] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which package version? Debs? RPMs? Source Code?
[17:06] <bascule> it is source, you would need to build it
[17:06] <bascule> there seems to be no debs or rpms there
[17:07] <axel> bascule: really? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51494
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, what's the app and file xtn ?
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> one second
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> sorry someone was phoned
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> right
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> erm how do i determine what it is?
[17:08] <bascule> does it finish tar.gz or .rpm
[17:09] <axel> Haemogoblin:  what's the character sequence after the last dot in the filename?
[17:09] <Haemogoblin> gz
[17:09] <Haemogoblin> zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:10] <bascule> I guess you have you never compiled source code before
[17:10] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then the insallation rule of three should be a good idea.
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> ??
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> i've been using kubuntu for 3 days
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> just learning
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> sorry :(
[17:11] <bascule> do you really *need* this articular app?
[17:11] <JoshOvki> Haemogoblin: extract the documents like you would a .zip and read the INSTALL file
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> i have
[17:11] <bascule> there are so many good players in kubuntu already
[17:11] <axel> Haemogoblin: That's OK. "So far no master fell from the skys."
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> well i heard zinf was a good player
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> low on resources
[17:11] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did you already extract the archive?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, in the terminal/konsole type, or copy and paste this,  tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:11] <fidelio> sparr: what du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n does?
[17:12] <Haemogoblin> and the one that comes in kubuntu doesn't like some of my mp3's
[17:12] <axel> Haemogoblin: You mean Amarok?
[17:12] <Haemogoblin> yes
[17:12] <PhilRod> fidelio: ok - did you try the test page from localhost:631?
[17:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Wait, I'm looking up a package name.
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:13] <PhilRod> (fidelio: btw, hit tab to get my full nickname, then it'll highlight and I'll know you're talking to me)
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> that command
[17:13] <Haemogoblin>  tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:13] <ubuntu> hello. the live cd (which i am in right now) detects my video card as being 800x600, but it actually is 1024x768. how do I fix this? (is there an automated way to do this?)
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> wasn't found
[17:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Now let's start.
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> okies
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> woop!
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: at least I think that's the right package. As far as I know it is.
[17:14] <damian__> Hi:P
[17:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: start a console.
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> done
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:15] <fidelio> PhilRod: 631 test page works great
[17:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: then type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:16] <axel> Haemogoblin: It will install some programs like flash and as I think the support for MP3.
[17:16] <PhilRod> fidelio: ok, let's move up one step and try kprinter. Run "kprinter" from the run command dialog (Alt+F2)
[17:16] <damian__> Who LovE LinuX ????
[17:17] <PhilRod> damian__: certainly none of the people here, who are using their spare time to help other people with their linux problems
[17:17] <bascule> :)
[17:17] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:18] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i've got the restricted extra's installed
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> well
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i had the extra's installed already
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i can play mp3s
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> just not all of them
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> the stock player will skip some albums randomly
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> just skipping each track
[17:19] <axel> Haemogoblin: What's the difference between the MP3s you can play and those you can't.
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> i have no idea
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> they are both mp3 format
[17:19] <PhilRod> fidelio: if you expand the options button there, you'll see a list of files to be printed, so add something simple there
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> they worked in XP
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> i was hoping using another player might solve the problem
[17:20] <Haemogoblin> is there such a thing as a codec bundle for linux?
[17:20] <Haemogoblin> to support mp2/3/4, xvid ect ect
[17:20] <axel> Haemogoblin: there are some packages that should fix that. Wait. I'll see wether I can figure out which.
[17:22] <fidelio> PhilRod: cannot open kprinter says "The location or file could not be found"
[17:22] <axel> Haemogoblin: Let's try "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg" on the command line.
[17:22] <Haemogoblin> i'd REALLY be greatful if someone cud explain how i installed apps that i've downloaded..it's not exactly clear
[17:22] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:23] <fidelio> PhilRod: i need to istalll kprinter
[17:23] <PhilRod> fidelio: that's weird. I thought it was installed as part of kdebase
[17:24] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did this package work?
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> installing
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> erm
[17:24] <PhilRod> fidelio: just checking what package installs it
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:25]  * bascule suspects medibuntu as an answer
[17:25] <axel> Haemogoblin: strange.
[17:25] <Haemogoblin> :S
[17:25] <Haemogoblin> it is why i wanted to try another player
[17:26] <Haemogoblin> i dont know how good the one that comes with linux is against others
[17:26] <bascule> amarok is superb IMO
[17:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: It is said that Amarok is one of the best music player.
[17:27] <Haemogoblin> ook
[17:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: You got some problems with codecs, not with Amarok.
[17:27] <JoshOvki> xmms is a good small player
[17:27] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:28] <bascule> try medibuntu sources
[17:28] <bascule> !medibuntu
[17:28] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: for the vast majority of apps, you'll want to install them using packages specially prepared for (k)ubuntu, which you can do using adept. Occasionally you'll need to install apps from outside the package repositories, and then all bets are off
[17:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do you speak German? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs#head-183b9d6088dd54ac5ce74ee1c92e28ddd2ac70a0
[17:28] <stuq> anyone have advice on adding a newuser in hardy?  I'm using kuser and getting only partial results
[17:28] <Haemogoblin> erm nope sadly i dont
[17:28] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:28] <bascule> stuq: what is working
[17:29] <PhilRod> fidelio: looks like the package you need is kdeprint
[17:29] <bascule> and what isn't
[17:29] <axel> Haemogoblin: OK, then let's go through the packages.
[17:29] <stuq> bascule: I've added a user in kuser, matched groups to my own
[17:29] <fidelio> PhilRod: kprinter+file opens gedit.  I see the text but printer does not work
[17:29] <libben> I just got myself a EEE pc 900, its not here right now. But i was wondering if i can install Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix) on it. and do i need to get myself a external reader for cds or can i install it from the linux version that comes wit it?
[17:29] <Haemogoblin> okies
[17:29] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:29] <stuq> bascule: but on trying to log in, i'm getting complaints about kconfigstartup missing
[17:30] <stuq> and x will hang totally
[17:30] <Haemogoblin> have to admit installing stuff without adept seems confusing
[17:30] <stuq> i'm rsync'
[17:30] <fidelio> PhilRod: correct -- I istalled kdeprint successfully
[17:30] <Haemogoblin> i've not managed it yet
[17:30] <stuq> ing my user dir to the new user
[17:30] <stuq> just to catch anything i'm missing
[17:30] <bascule> not a good idea to copy it all
[17:30] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: yes, you'll generally want to avoid it except in very special cases
[17:30] <stuq> brand new install, so nothing extra there
[17:30] <axel> Haemogoblin: libxine1-bin, libxvidcore4, libxine1-plugins, ibquicktime1
[17:30] <PhilRod> package management is your friend
[17:30] <bascule> stuq: there are unique session id things that will cause conflicts acros users
[17:31] <PhilRod> fidelio: sorry, I didnt' quite understand - when does it open gedit?
[17:31] <stuq> bascule: hmm. ok
[17:31] <stuq> bascule: have you added a user on a hardy install yet?
[17:31] <bascule> are you just trying to change a user name? are you cloning an enviroment for a second user?
[17:31] <Haemogoblin> philrod ?? i find them using adept yes?
[17:31] <bascule> stuq: well I do things ols style a lot of the time
[17:31] <bascule> useradd usermod and so on
[17:32] <stuq> bascule: my first need was just a new user, but when that didn't work i fell back to a cloning attempt
[17:32] <bascule> just what I know
[17:32] <bascule> ok
[17:32] <fidelio> PhilRod: alt +f2, type kprinter , select file.  then gedit opens the text file
[17:32] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: right - always try adept first.
[17:32] <libben> anyone regarding my issue a bit up?
[17:32] <stuq> bascule: ols?  you mean cls?
[17:32] <bascule> old*
[17:32] <stuq> so, add user?
[17:32] <bascule> well not yet :)
[17:33] <stuq> i'm fine with command line, but i'm just more used to the freebsd way for this
[17:33] <PhilRod> fidelio: that's weird. Here it adds the file to the list of files in the bottom half of the dialog
[17:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: actually installing packages with the use of command line  is more efficient - at least in my opinion. And that's the key point: Opinions differ. ;)
[17:34] <PhilRod> axel: ah, yes - I often prefer the command line too, but I think we *definitely* agree on the benefits of package management
[17:34] <bascule> stuq: and the error was kconfigstartup?
[17:34] <Xanatos> sigh wubi still wont work
[17:34] <stuq> well, that was the most recent error i stopped with
[17:35] <stuq> kuser didn't want to make a shell at first
[17:35] <bascule> ok
[17:35] <stuq> took several attempts for it to accept /bin/bash
[17:35] <stuq> and no home dir was made
[17:35] <bascule> and copy skeleton was enabled
[17:35] <stuq> so i did that on cl
[17:35] <stuq> looking..
[17:35] <axel> PhilRod: Isn't apt a package managenemt programm? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool
[17:36] <rebecca> anyone else encountered complete system freezing with kubuntu 8.04 + firefox (2 or 3) + flash from restricted?
[17:36] <bascule> stuq: I am looking at kuser now, on the first atb it has 2 tick boxes at the bottom
[17:36] <PhilRod> fidelio: just to check we're looking at the same thing, this is what I have here http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/stuff/kprinter.png
[17:36] <bascule> atb/tab
[17:36] <stuq> bascule: yes, copy skeleton enabled
[17:36] <stuq> it is by default
[17:36] <stuq> and i didn't change it
[17:36] <bascule> It also has account disabled ticked for some reason
[17:36] <stuq> yes, noticed that, and enabled it
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> soo how do i use the command line?
[17:37] <bascule> ok
[17:37] <PhilRod> axel: yes. I think one of us is confused. I'm just saying that package management, apt or anything else, is almost always better than installing from source or from random .debs from websites
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> to install those files
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> :S
[17:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[17:37] <axel> PhilRod: fully ACK.
[17:38] <bascule> stuq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto <-- try that
[17:38] <Haemogoblin> well someone was saying i should use the command line
[17:38] <Haemogoblin> i dont know how!
[17:39] <Haemogoblin> i mean, i know where it is
[17:39] <stuq> bascule: I wonder if I just had a 'hiccup' in kuser... just trying to add another user, and I noticed that the UID wasn't automatically set in my first attempt
[17:39] <bascule> odd
[17:39] <stuq> that was something I had to edit, which didn't seem right
[17:39] <Haemogoblin> but i dont know the actual commands i have to insert
[17:39] <stuq> bascule: yes, thanks, have that faq already
[17:39] <ubuntu> hello. I was wondering why, when I use the vesa driver, the fonts are smaller than when using the nvidia driver...
[17:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: When I wrote use the command line I wanted to say that you open the console.
[17:39] <stuq> i'm just gonna do a do-over
[17:40] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:40] <Haemogoblin> soo how do i add those files using the command line?
[17:40] <stuq> bascule: thanks for the suggestions
[17:40] <fidelio> PhilRod: i tried again krpinter and managed to attach a file. I got this message:"
[17:40] <fidelio> The file format text/plain is not directly supported by the current print system. You now have 3 options:
[17:40] <fidelio> KDE can attempt to convert this file automatically to a supported format. (Select Convert)
[17:40] <fidelio> You can try to send the file to the printer without any conversion. (Select Keep)
[17:40] <fidelio> You can cancel the printjob. (Select Cancel)
[17:40] <fidelio> Do you want KDE to attempt and convert this file to application/postscript?
[17:40] <axel> Haemogoblin: installing packages (from repositories) goes like this: sudo apt-get install <name of packages here separated with a space character>
[17:40] <bascule> stuq: welcome, it is rather easy in the whole to add a user, seems the gui ways are perhaps a little lacking at sane defaults
[17:41] <fidelio> PhilRod: if i click on convert printer works
[17:41] <stuq> bascule: so, you are just using useradd?
[17:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: "sudo" executes the command as a super user (admin in the Windows world).
[17:41] <bascule> I do when I add users yes
[17:41] <stuq> k, i'll give that a try
[17:41] <stuq> thanks
[17:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: "apt-get" is the programm you use.
[17:41] <PhilRod> fidelio: not supporting text/plain sounds very weird. What does kprinter say for "print system curently used"?
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> so...
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> ah
[17:42] <bascule> stuq: just pay attention the the groups, you could copy them from /etc/shadow and bear in mind it is the admin group that allows sudo access
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> sudu adept-get  libxine1-bin?
[17:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: "install" is the option you need to install packages. There are other ones like update, upgrade, clean, autoremove, ...
[17:42] <bascule> stuq: when I say copy, I mean make them the same as the other user
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin
[17:43] <c-ron> what is the process named that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4?
[17:43] <stuq> bascule: yes, thanks, i get it.  This is all slightly different in bsd, so I have to
[17:43] <stuq> 'unlearn'
[17:43] <fidelio> PhilRod: CUPS
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo not sudu
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: apt-get not adept-get
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> soffh
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> sorry
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> hehe
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: the option install was missing.
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> sudo apt-get install  libxine1-bin
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> yes?
[17:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: No problem. Back in DOS days I had also trouble with the commands at first. ;)
[17:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: Yes.
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> i'm actaully good with dos
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> well used to be until bill gates killed it
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> :(
[17:45] <axel> Haemogoblin: Just other commands. ;)
[17:45] <axel> Haemogoblin: He also established it.
[17:46] <c-ron> hi, what is the name of the process that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4? i'm asking because i have no UI tho x loads
[17:46] <Haemogoblin> apparently  libxine1-bin, is already instealld
[17:46] <bascule> c-ron: startkde
[17:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: a little hint: If you want to see some options, ect. of a command you can type: man <command>
[17:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: q exits the "reader".
[17:46] <uga> guys, anybody knows how to enable boot logs?
[17:47] <llutz> uga enable it in /etc/default/bootlogd
[17:47] <uga> llutz: tried that. this is about silly already, I'm supposed to have /etc/default/bootlogd thing enabled, bootlogd is enabled as default service...
[17:48] <uga> adn yet the boot log is empty
[17:48] <Haemogoblin> thanks for the tip
[17:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: to accellerate the package installation: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin libxvidcore4 libxine1-plugins ibquicktime1
[17:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: Delete those packages you have already installed in the command I posted above.
[17:48] <Haemogoblin> Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-bin is already the newest version.E: Couldn't find package ibquicktime1
[17:48] <c-ron> i get the message "KDE seems to be already running on this display." when i run startkde. no panels are being displayed.
[17:49] <axel> Haemogoblin: This package is used to play quicktime-videos.
[17:49] <Haemogoblin> right soo looks like they are all installed
[17:49] <llutz> UGA "locate bootlogd"
[17:50] <axel> Haemogoblin:  libquicktime1 would be the right name. Sorry. My mistake.
[17:50] <uga> llutz: /etc/default/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd and /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd-single
[17:51] <llutz> uga: so no daemon present, install sysvinit
[17:51] <Haemogoblin> right
[17:51] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do the MP3s work?
[17:51] <Haemogoblin> one second i'll test
[17:52] <uga> llutz: lol, I had tried apt-get ing bootlogd, but given I had not found it I thought it was part of some base system install. How on earth was there a service and not the daemon? thanks man =)
[17:52] <Nemesis02> good morning everyone :) got a bit of a library conflict with glib here, wondering if anyone could help.
[17:52] <bascule> c-ron: well try killing X with ctrl+alt+bksp and do it again at the login-screen, NOTE: it will kill X straight away
[17:52] <llutz> uga: one of those ubuntu-things.... nobody knows
[17:53] <uga> llutz: btw, I thought now the startup wasn't really sysv5
[17:53] <Nemesis02> I keep getting this error msg when i try to do ./configure on an application: http://nopaste.us/126
[17:53] <llutz> uga: i guess it is somewhat between sysV and...
[17:53] <uga> heh
[17:53] <uga> anyway, rebooting
[17:54] <Haemogoblin> nope it's doesnt work
[17:54] <Nemesis02> does anyone know howto fix that problem?
[17:56] <Haemogoblin> maybe the files are currupt
[17:56] <Haemogoblin> just wonder how i install zinf
[17:57] <axel> Haemogoblin: extract it,
[17:57] <axel> Hae
[17:57] <axel> Haemogoblin: go to that directory (command line).
[17:57] <llutz> Haemogoblin: aptitude install zinf
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: Hey Zinf is in the Kubuntu repositories.
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: I did not know that.
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install zinf
[17:58] <llutz> it should be 1st look before start compiling something
[17:59] <Haemogoblin> the files are on my desktop if you can call it that
[17:59] <Haemogoblin> how do i navigate to my desktop in the command line
[17:59] <llutz> cd ~/Desktop
[18:00] <stuq> bascule:no add user joy yet... I should mention that this is the 'kde4 remix' version of kubuntu hardy, so there may be some unresolved issues
[18:00] <bascule> possibly, i really wish I had a definitive answer for you
[18:00] <stuq> bascule: though you would think that adding a user was pretty basic to the functionality of a release
[18:00] <stuq> so, kstartupconfig4... i'm researching that
[18:00] <bascule> that is not one I know
[18:01] <stuq>   /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kstartupconfig4
[18:01] <bascule> ok
[18:01] <stuq> that's what it needs, at this point
[18:01] <bascule> is it a shell script?
[18:01] <stuq> binary file, not sure yet
[18:01] <axel> Haemogoblin: a little explaination of llutz's command: "cd ~" takes you to your home-directory, e.g. /home/Haemogoblin/
[18:02] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:03] <stuq> bascule: this might be a clue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=669360
[18:03] <stuq> trying that... have to reboot, for some reason, my install doesn't like 'logging out' either ;-(
[18:03] <bascule> so there is some kde 3/4 conflicts then
[18:04] <fidelio> PhilRod: I assume you ran out of ideas
[18:04] <PhilRod> fidelio: yeah, sorry. Got a bit distracted. Um, what were the apps where printing didn't work?
[18:10] <fidelio> PhilRod: gedit, office
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, you will nedd to add the medibuntu repositories,where you can then install these using adept :  libk3b2-mp3, libxine1-ffmpeg, and libdvdcss2
[18:11] <PhilRod> hrm, perhaps they're not using cups. I'm not really familiar with how non-kde applications print stuff. You could see if they have a setting for what "print command" to use, and set that to "kprinter"
[18:11] <Haemogoblin> soo where do i find that matey?
[18:12] <Haemogoblin> i'm just struggling with installing zinf
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | Haemogoblin
[18:12] <Haemogoblin> from my desktio
[18:12] <PhilRod> fidelio: if that doesn't work, you could try asking in one of the applications' cahnnels
[18:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu are you using? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04)?
[18:13] <fidelio> PhilRod: ok, thanks
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, oce you are athe medibuntu site use the "howto" .
[18:14] <BluesKaj> once
[18:15] <Haemogoblin> ok thanks
[18:15] <Haemogoblin> :D
[18:15] <thyko> Haemogoblin: what you trying to do?
[18:15] <heroicwisdom> Hi, i am haveing some troble installing a ralink wifi device in kubuntu 8.04. I have compiled the driver, but i do not think that linux is assiotatiing the driver to the device, can somebody help me with this?
[18:15] <thyko> heroicwisdom: use ndiswrapper
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> i
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> why is it that i can't get into a dir called zinf-2.2.5
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> when i type cd /zinf-2.2.5
[18:16] <thyko> Haemogoblin: remove /
[18:16] <llutz> Haemogoblin: forget that, install zinf from repo: "sudo aptitude install zinf"
[18:16] <llutz> thyko: stop telling shit!
[18:17] <thyko> llutz: blow me
[18:17] <heroicwisdom> i can not get the the windows driver, the winodws installer is not a cab, or zip file
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !ops | thyko
[18:17] <axel> llutz: he means that the character "/" should be deleted.
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> thanks mate
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> installing now
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> i'd still like to know where i was going wrong
[18:19] <BluesKaj> we get jerks here with malicicous advice very rarely, but it does happen
[18:20] <Haemogoblin> :(
[18:21] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, which distro are you running hardy 8.04 ?
[18:21] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj:  that does not really look like malicious advice
[18:21] <bascule> I think he was not saying remove the top-level dir, he was saying to not use the / in the command
[18:21] <Haemogoblin> the one thats up on the site
[18:21] <heinkel_111> he did not mean the root directory
[18:21] <BluesKaj> I thought at first he was telling him to remove /
[18:22] <bascule> it looks like it at a glompse
[18:22] <bascule> glimpse, but tied together it makes more sense
[18:22] <heinkel_111> yes I agree it is possible to misunderstand, but I really doubt it was malicious
[18:22] <heinkel_111> just unfortunate and not cautious
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> crikey....the console is case sensitive??
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> thats something dos wasn't
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> :S
[18:22] <bascule> and he reacted badly rather than explaining what he was on about
[18:23] <BluesKaj> so I panicked on the side of caution, besides his attitude sucked with thelanguage
[18:23] <bascule> yes
[18:23] <axel> Haemogoblin: It is case sensitive.
[18:23] <bascule> should be easily sorted, all depends how he conducts himself in -ops really :)
[18:23] <Haemogoblin> i noticed
[18:23] <heroicwisdom> can somebody help me with installing my ralink driver? the driver name is ra2860sta.ko, does anybody have experince with this?
[18:23] <Haemogoblin> i've managed to get in the dir on my desktop now
[18:24] <Haemogoblin> :)
[18:24] <Haemogoblin> woop!
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, amarok is a great audioplayer by the way
[18:24] <axel> Haemogoblin: Ok. Then the next step.
[18:25] <Haemogoblin> well i've installed it the other way now
[18:25] <Haemogoblin> but at least i know how to do it..
[18:25] <bascule> heroicwisdom: have you modprobed it? does   lsmod | grep ra2860   show it in the kernel
[18:26] <bascule> did any of that make sense? :)
[18:26] <axel> BluesKaj: Some MP3s did not work. So Haemogoblin wants to install an other audio player that should solve the problem.
[18:26] <Haemogoblin> what is aptitude?
[18:26] <axel> Haemogoblin: You mean you installed the player with "sudo apt-get install ..."?
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: Something like apt.
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> yes
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> i used the get command
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then there is no need to install it from source.
[18:27] <heroicwisdom> bascule: I jsut ran that command and i see the driver with the feilds 501592 then 0
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(program)
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> but it's good to know how to install stuff off the net
[18:28] <Haemogoblin> :D
[18:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Stop. It's a frontend for apt.
[18:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Sorry. I was wrong.
[18:28] <bascule> heroicwisdom: ok, i will look a little a what it wants, 5 mins
[18:29] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:29] <Haemogoblin> lol
[18:29] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok thanks for the help
[18:30] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do the MP3s work with the recently installed player?
[18:30] <Haemogoblin> one sec i'm going to check i'm reading up on those addons
[18:30] <Haemogoblin> Medibuntu
[18:31] <Haemogoblin> soo
[18:32] <Haemogoblin> firstly i run this line from the console
[18:32] <Haemogoblin> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:32] <bascule> heroicwisdom: looks like an ndiswrapper situation
[18:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: Not quite.
[18:33] <axel> You must tell apt to look there for packages.
[18:34] <heroicwisdom> bascule: i cant get a copy of the driver, the driver comes in a .exe format, and i have no way to extract it
[18:34] <jussi01> !info cabextract
[18:34] <bascule> thanks jussi01
[18:35] <jussi01> :)
[18:35] <axel> axel: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.
[18:35] <axel> axel: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager
[18:36] <heroicwisdom> i have tryed that, i still cant get anything.
[18:37] <bascule> do you have a link to the driver, I will have a go at extracting it here
[18:37] <heroicwisdom> let me see hang on
[18:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.
[18:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager
[18:37] <Haemogoblin> loading adept
[18:38] <bascule> heroicwisdom: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page <-- you were using that?
[18:38] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then in the menue: Adept > "manage package repositories"
[18:38] <heroicwisdom> http://www.encore-usa.com/product_download.php?region=us&bid=3
[18:38] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:38] <axel> Haemogoblin: ?? kk ??
[18:39] <bascule> heroicwisdom: which model?
[18:39] <heroicwisdom> no i downloaded the linux driver from a link i saw on the ubuntu forums, the one on the encore website did compile nicely, and th eone on the forums was a bit more recent
[18:40] <bascule> ok
[18:40] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu do you use? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04?)
[18:40] <Haemogoblin> i think thats it
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> baclue: im sorry i guess it didnt jump to it, its ENLWI-N
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> http://www.encore-usa.com/download/driver/ENLWI-N_ENPWI-N_Win_Driver.zip
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> thats the dicret link to the driver
[18:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: OK. Let's go further.
[18:41] <Haemogoblin> ok i have the software sources open
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> i have main, uni and multi checked
[18:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: Klick on the tab "Tird-Party Software".
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> i'm there
[18:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: and than on the button "add".
[18:43] <bascule> heroicwisdom: OK, the linux module is currently in the kernel (lsmod) but iwconfig retirns 'no wireless extensions' ?
[18:43] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:44] <bascule> that win driver is rather big, some total breakage 'helper' software bundled no doubt :)
[18:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then add the following string: deb http://de.packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
[18:45] <Haemogoblin> done
[18:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: The string must be very precise.
[18:46] <heroicwisdom> bascule: yea the win driver is bloted. iw config returns ra0 and some info but i get a warning it says "Warning: Driver for device ra0 has been compiled with an ancient version of Wireless extention, while this program support version 11 or later some things may be broken"
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> it's been added
[18:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: After Pressing OK. the package list should be reloaded.
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> it's on the list
[18:46] <luisro> hello
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> and ticked
[18:47] <luisro> please somebody speak spanish?
[18:47] <bascule> heroicwisdom: well we are somewhere then, if it sees the card as valid for iwconfig
[18:47] <bascule> !es
[18:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: Close the window and reload the package list.
[18:48] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:48] <heroicwisdom> bascule: It would seem so. i followed the read me to install the driver, but at a point the readmes instuctions dont work anymore. the readme wants me to run the command /sbin/insmod rt2860sta.ko
[18:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: I made a mistake.
[18:49] <Ayabara_> what's a good jpeg quality level to set in digikam? The default of 75 gives so small files that I'm becoming paraniod
[18:49] <heroicwisdom> bascule: when i run that command the promt returns a file not found erroc for rt2860.ko
[18:49] <bascule> heroicwisdom: it looks lke it is alread there, well it is or you would have no wireless extensions
[18:49] <jussi01> Ayabara_: I usually use 90, but thats just me
[18:49] <heroicwisdom> bascule: well thats good news!
[18:49] <bascule> heroicwisdom: yeah, the insmod/modprobe only looks to certain dirs for modules
[18:50] <Ayabara_> jussi01, ok. I tried 100 as well, but then the file size increased after editing, and that also freaked me out :-)
[18:50] <axel> Haemogoblin: Undo the changes and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[18:50] <bascule> in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[18:51] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i see,  so it loaded the driver properly, but why cant i enable the device? the command lspic returns with a unknown device ralink 0601
[18:51] <heinkel_111> does anyone else experience partial system freeze  with cache turned on in konqueror
[18:51] <heinkel_111> ?
[18:51] <axel> Haemogoblin: Sorry for that. I took the package-repository-link from a german site. Sorry.
[18:51] <Haemogoblin> what??
[18:51] <Haemogoblin> i'm confused
[18:52] <axel> Haemogoblin: Open the Adept manager again.
[18:52] <bascule> heroicwisdom: so now we are gonna try a iwconfig ra0 essid <your network name> key <your key>
[18:52] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok hang on...
[18:52] <Haemogoblin> its still open
[18:52] <bascule> key has to be hex or ascii though, not passphrase
[18:52]  * heinkel_111 reboots to get out of yet another frozen konqeror problem
[18:52] <pulaski> hello, I upgraded from gutsy 7.10 to hh 8.4 yesterday in the online manner using adept.  Now the contents of ~/ appear on the Desktop and the contents of ~/Desktop no longer do.  Is this a new 'feature'?
[18:53] <axel> Haemogoblin: Menue: Adept > Manage repositories
[18:53] <Haemogoblin> want me to remove that link we added
[18:54] <axel> Haemogoblin: yes.
[18:54] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i got an error, "error for wireless request set essid (8b1a) set failed on device ra0; network is down
[18:54] <Haemogoblin> removied
[18:54] <axel> Haemogoblin: I found that there is an "official" way of adding the repository, I did not know.
[18:54] <dhin> so, after seeing how much firefox 3 can't do, I want to go back to firefox-2, but for some reason a lot of the fonts look terrible in forefox 2, on sites where it looks fine in any other browser
[18:54] <heroicwisdom> bascule: i jsut ran the command iwlist scanning and the device says interface does not support scaning
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: It's described here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[18:55] <dhin> how can I fix the fonts so that I can go back to using firebug, loading pictures normally, etc.?
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: According to this open a Konsole.
[18:55] <bascule> heroicwisdom: is ok, will do that if not associated sometimes
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: and "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[18:56] <axel> Haemogoblin: after that: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[18:56] <axel> Haemogoblin: Both commands without the " at the beginning and end.
[18:57] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, also when i go to the knetwork manager, and try to enable the device, it turns on for a second and disables the device
[18:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[18:58] <Haemogoblin> one sec
[18:59] <bascule> heroicwisdom: it may not work with the manager, some cards don't
[18:59] <Nemesis02> Quick question for everyone, could anyone help fix this problem "*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.6.6, but GLIB (2.16.3) was found!"  ?  Its popping up when i goto configure the src for an application.
[18:59] <dhin> can anyone help me deal with fonts in firefox-2? They look like crap when I go to certain pages, but when I go to the same page in other browsers (including firefox 3) it looks fine
[18:59] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, so what next then?
[18:59] <bascule> I had an acx100 in a desktop, just used a little script
[19:00] <bascule> heroicwisdom: well if you know the essid and passphrase we can try iwconfic and dhclient
[19:00] <bascule> iwconfig*
[19:01] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, i do know both of those, but i get an error when i run the command, am i missing soemthing? what is the excat syntax of the command?
[19:02] <bascule> sudo iwconfig ra0 essid <essid goes here> key <hex of phrase goes here>
[19:02] <dhin> at this rate i think i'm just going to go back to gutsy
[19:02] <bascule> heroicwisdom: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/wpapsk.html converts passphrases to hes
[19:02] <bascule> hex*
[19:02] <Haemogoblin> ok done
[19:02] <dhin> if that's the only easy way to fix my problem and the other minor stuff i've had to deal with
[19:02] <heroicwisdom> bascule: so do i keep the <> signs? i jsu tdid and i got this error. unexpected token newline
[19:03] <dhin> heroicwisdom: no, don't keep the <>
[19:03] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i am using WPA2 so that link will convert it?
[19:03] <Itaku> how do i use wireless internet on KDE4?
[19:03] <Itaku> oh wait
[19:03] <Itaku> wrong chan
[19:04] <Haemogoblin> so does that mean those addons are not in the system
[19:04] <bascule> heroicwisdom: hopefully, there will be other methods too
[19:05] <heroicwisdom> ok hang on i am putting in the hex key
[19:05] <Haemogoblin> Axel?
[19:05] <axel> Haemogoblin: Yes.
[19:05] <bascule> heroicwisdom: that page looks a little broken to me :)
[19:05] <Haemogoblin> cool
[19:06] <Haemogoblin> i'll give the player a try
[19:06] <bascule> http://www.corecoding.com/utilities/wep2hex.php :: better one
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> didn't we install zinf?
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i cant see it on my menu
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> :S
[19:07] <axel> Haemogoblin: The packages (those of medibuntu) are not included in the official repositories because of legal "uncertainties".
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> okies
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> thanks for helping me with em
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> :D
[19:07] <axel> Haemogoblin: I thought you installed it.
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i did too
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i can't see it
[19:08] <Haemogoblin> it's not in my multimedia section
[19:08] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i just ran the command, and go t anetwork is down error
[19:08] <draik> I'm not sure what happened from 7.10 to 8.04, clicking on links in Konversation opens a new FF window with two tabs of the same link. I have FF open and it still opens a new window with two tabs of the same site. It doesn't use the opened FF and open a single tab. How do I fix this?
[19:09] <draik> If I click on a link from Thunderbird, it doesn't do anything. It used to open a new tab in an opened FF.
[19:09] <bascule> heroicwisdom: darn
[19:09] <axel> Haemogoblin: I don't know where to find it. I have not heard of the player until you told about it.
[19:09] <Haemogoblin> lol
[19:09] <heroicwisdom> bascule: han gon let me try the other link you gave me
[19:09] <Haemogoblin> ok
[19:09] <axel> Haemogoblin: But just adding the repository will not help you to solve your problem.
[19:10] <Haemogoblin> oh
[19:10] <uga> lluq
[19:10] <uga> arf
[19:10] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok it didnt work... :(
[19:10] <axel> Haemogoblin: Adding a repository just means to tell apt that there is a place to look for packages you can install. The right packages must still be installed.
[19:11] <Haemogoblin> right
[19:11] <bascule> heroicwisdom: try just on its own sudo iwconfig ra0 essid <your essid>
[19:12] <bascule> then iwconfig see if it is associated
[19:12] <therion> Hi, i have a problem with gdebi-kde, pratically it doesn't install any packages... how to resolve this?
[19:12] <tht> good evening anyone here who can answer me a question about madwifi and xubuntu ?
[19:12] <Haemogoblin> soo what do you suggest
[19:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do you use the 32bit or 64bit version of kubuntu?
[19:13] <heroicwisdom> ok that time i didnt get an error, but it still does not show up under the config
[19:13] <uga> tht: 1) don't ask to ask a question. just ask it 2) xubuntu != kubuntu 3) madwifi should be same on ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, so as far as you keep yourself off-xubuntu specifics...
[19:13] <Haemogoblin> 32
[19:13] <Haemogoblin> intel
[19:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[19:14] <heroicwisdom> bascule: wait a break though! i ran the command iwlist scanning and i can see my router!
[19:15] <Haemogoblin> installing now
[19:15] <bascule> heroicwisdom: awesomes!
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: I found an other reason why you can't play MP3s.
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: A brocken XINE-cashe.
[19:15] <Haemogoblin> oh?
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: rm -f ~/.xine/catalog.cache
[19:16] <axel> Haemogoblin: That deletes the cashe.
[19:16] <heroicwisdom> let me try the iwconfig command setup again, hang on
[19:16] <uga> s/cashe/cache
[19:16] <heroicwisdom> bascule: no still geting an error
[19:16] <tht> uga: is it normal that i have to rmmod ath_pci, insmod ath_pci to be able to create a monitoring device ?
[19:16] <bascule> heroicwisdom: after the iwconfig you then need to run sudo dhclient ra0
[19:16] <Haemogoblin> done
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: After a restart of the affected programs the file is recreated and the problem should be vanished.
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: what? removing or installing?
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: ;)
[19:17] <heroicwisdom> bacule: hang on let me try a reboot
[19:17] <Haemogoblin> i did the last command
[19:17] <uga> tht: don't ask me, I'm no expert, but somebody else here sure knows
[19:17] <draik> How do I shrink the password dots? They are no longer asterisks. They are black dots as big as the password field.
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: Does it work now?
[19:17]  * bascule wonders what'll happen to the modules, and trying to find them
[19:18] <heroicwisdom> bascule: im hopeing for the best..
[19:19] <bascule> me too
[19:19] <Haemogoblin> testing now
[19:19] <heroicwisdom> ok i jsut rebooted let me run those commands again
[19:21] <therion> gdebi-kde doesn't install any deb package and do always in crash... how i can resolve this problem?
[19:23] <heroicwisdom> it seems nothing new happened i cant get a connection
[19:23] <heroicwisdom> but i can now enable the device in the network manger
[19:24] <dotancohen> Anybody know how to target the Firefox window in Compiz?
[19:25] <dotancohen> I need to prevent Firefox from stealing focus whenreading mail in Thunderbird and clicking links. I have this rule in my"Focus Prevention Windows" text field:title="Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5"$
[19:25] <axel> Haemogoblin: ping?
[19:25] <bascule> heroicwisdom: odd, but there may be a road ahead, not one I know though, sorry
[19:25] <dotancohen> The spelling and capitalization are correct. However, this does not prevent focus. I have tried the rule without the quotes, that does not help. What am I doing wrong?
[19:26] <bascule> to me those iwconfig and dhclient worked for me on that acx100
[19:26] <jasoon> Anyone have some experience with Ark?
[19:26] <heroicwisdom> bascule: hmmm never mind, the device only allows me to enable it when i set a static IP, this is strange
[19:26] <bascule> some
[19:27] <jasoon> I'd like to zip multiple folders
[19:27] <bascule> dhclent not working on it? well that might be a router issue
[19:27] <jasoon> but not the directory folder for these folders
[19:27] <jasoon> at a loss on how to do this...
[19:27] <heroicwisdom> i guess i will do some playing, let me know if you have other ideas
[19:27] <bascule> heroicwisdom: if it is on though .. \o/
[19:27] <heroicwisdom> DCHP is fine on the router, im on my laptop now, via DHCP
[19:27] <jasoon> I figured I would just selectthe files-->Compress
[19:28] <jasoon> but it's making zips of the directory or something
[19:30] <Itaku> how do i get wireless inernet working?
[19:31] <jasoon> what wireless card do you have?
[19:31] <Itaku> idk
[19:31] <Itaku> its a usb thing
[19:31] <jasoon> lspci
[19:31] <jasoon> type that in terminal
[19:32] <jasoon> look for network controller
[19:32] <bascule> jasoon: do you have the right-click compress options showing
[19:32] <jasoon> yes
[19:32] <jasoon> one sec, I'll do it again and tell you the files it makes
[19:32] <bascule> add to archive ...
[19:33] <jasoon> bastctl.zip and a zip with a name ziUIlnnl
[19:33] <jasoon> bast is the name of one of the folders
[19:33] <bascule> looks like it has pulled that from /tmp/
[19:33] <jasoon> in this directory
[19:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: Hello?
[19:33] <bascule> lost him .. :)
[19:34] <Itaku> jasoon: where do i find it?
[19:34] <jasoon> terminal is in the kde menu-->system-->konsole
[19:34] <jasoon> konsole is a terminal emulator
[19:34] <Haemogoblin> i'm here
[19:34] <Haemogoblin> it's updating and taking aaages
[19:34] <Itaku> jasoon: where do i find network controller?
[19:34] <jasoon> did you type lspci?
[19:34] <bascule> jasoon: can you not just go into the dir ctrl+a riht-click add to .. blah
[19:35] <Itaku> jasoon: yeah
[19:35] <axel> Haemogoblin: What's updating?
[19:35] <jasoon> no such luck
[19:35] <jasoon> Itaku: scroll down
[19:35] <jasoon> if you are connected, it should see the network controller
[19:35] <jasoon> what kind is it?
[19:36] <jasoon> netgear/linksys/airlink et cet?
[19:36] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs? Does that take so long?
[19:36] <jasoon> connected to the computer that is
[19:36] <Itaku> its linksys
[19:36] <jasoon> ok, linksys generally work great with linux
[19:36] <Itaku> well its not working
[19:36] <jasoon> when you lspci'd, did you see the word linksys anywhere?
[19:36] <Itaku> idk how to set it up
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> Alex
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> update complete
[19:37] <Itaku> jasoon: i just plugged in a usb thing and it gets wireless internet
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> i also found a reason for it not playing
[19:38] <jasoon> Itaku: it's working?
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> i went and checked the files in the dir
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> its not copied them properly
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> all of the tunes are 4k
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> :S
[19:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: That's a reason that can not be fixed with codecs, players or deletinc cashes. ;)
[19:39] <Itaku> jasoon: i need to configure it
[19:39] <jasoon> ok
[19:39] <Itaku> im just asking how to
[19:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: How did you copy the files?
[19:39] <jasoon> can it see your network?
[19:39] <Itaku> my network?
[19:40] <jasoon> do you know your ESSID (network name)?
[19:40] <Itaku> yes
[19:40] <jasoon> Do you have a router?
[19:40] <jasoon> or firewall?
[19:40] <Itaku> yeah
[19:40] <jasoon> If so, it should be broadcasting your network's name
[19:40] <Itaku> how do i set it up??????????
[19:40] <Itaku> put in the password
[19:40] <Itaku> scan for it
[19:40] <Itaku> enter the name
[19:40] <Itaku> that
[19:40] <jasoon> yes
[19:40] <jasoon> you have knetworkmanager yes?
[19:40] <jasoon> you're on kubuntu?
[19:41] <Itaku> im on kubuntu
[19:41] <Itaku> and where would i find it?
[19:41] <jasoon> system tray
[19:41] <jasoon> bottom right
[19:41] <jasoon> it looks like a plug going into a jack
[19:41] <jasoon> just right click that and click on your network-->set it up like Windows
[19:41] <Itaku> ok yeah i got that
[19:42] <jasoon> Do you have WEP or WPA?
[19:42] <Itaku> YEAH I DO
[19:42] <Itaku> -caps
[19:42] <jasoon> which?
[19:42] <Itaku> its WPA
[19:43] <flotishtu> i always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?
[19:43] <jasoon> if you click your ESSID, should be pretty straightforward how to set it up
[19:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did you copy the files or ripped them from a CD?
[19:48] <axel> CU!
[19:49] <bascule> flotishtu: well add them into firestarter
[19:50] <bascule> ipmasq? is that really needed as well as iptables
[19:50] <flotishtu>  i always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?
[19:50] <flotishtu> bascule sory
[19:51] <maduser> flotishtu: a script
[19:51] <jasoon> hm
[19:51] <flotishtu> bascule what do you mean add them to firestarter?
[19:51] <jasoon> in an init script probably
[19:51] <bascule> well firestarter should allow custom rules really
[19:51] <jasoon> that's what I have to do with ndiswrapper
[19:51] <bascule> but yeah, I would redo it myself
[19:51] <flotishtu> bascule yes . i think ipmasq is needed to handle firestarter firewall. otherwise it dont let me nat.
[19:51] <maduser> a script set to run apon start
[19:51] <bascule> ok
[19:51] <flotishtu> maduser what kind of
[19:51] <flotishtu> jasoon ic.
[19:52] <jasoon> but init is for modules
[19:52] <maduser> you could set it to run when the network is started or restared
[19:52] <jasoon> not sure if it would work with that
[19:52] <maduser> have it set to run constanly to cheack if the network is running
[19:52] <flotishtu> maduser jasoon but it also resets when ethernaet connection eth4 .. is reconnected.    it will undo itself at reconnection of eth4. even if i get it working for a reboot.
[19:53] <daniftodi> for view 3gp video?
[19:53] <flotishtu> maduser how.
[19:55] <maduser> do you know scripting?
[19:55] <flotishtu> and dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq need someone human to configure it.
[19:55] <flotishtu> pres yes no keys
[19:55] <flotishtu> maduser nope
[19:56] <maduser> flotishtu: I don't have time to write it
[19:56] <jasoon> sudo fix my damn network
[19:56] <jasoon> hahaha
[19:57] <flotishtu> /etc/network/ip-up.d/ or something like that, which is run whenever the interface goes up.
[19:57] <jasoon> question flotishu: where did you get that huge command from?
[19:58] <X-Seti> arhh
[19:59] <jasoon> ah that's cool, I just noticed something
[19:59] <jasoon> in Amarok, as a song is playing
[19:59] <X-Seti> I hate to bust in like this but..
[19:59] <jasoon> the icon fills up reflecting the timeline of the song
[19:59] <jasoon> that's cool haha
[19:59] <X-Seti> anyone here used wintv dvb (USB) t-nova ?
[20:00] <jasoon> I haven't
[20:01] <X-Seti> works well on my other comp, ubuntu but not here, i was wondering how you could force kaffeine to think its just been installed for the codec checker would come back up
[20:01] <jasoon> so it's a codec problem?
[20:01] <jasoon> you're talking about the adept batch?
[20:01] <X-Seti> im not sure, i know the device is being seen from the usb
[20:02] <X-Seti> and on my other comp, its being picked up by kaffeine..
[20:03] <X-Seti> same setup here, except i get dvb client show up in kaffeine instead?
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> hi
[20:03] <slow-motion> hi
[20:03] <X-Seti> hello
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> on hardy gimp is in english, new installation all locales are utf8 de, someone can help to get gimp german?
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> thx
[20:05] <secleinteer> does anyone konw how i can get the flac kio slave for audio cd's? i'm running kubuntu gutsy with kde 3.5.9
[20:05] <jasoon> it works on ubuntu x-seti?
[20:06] <flotishtu> any one else?
[20:06] <jasoon> sorry flotishtu, I don't know how you would script that
[20:07] <jasoon> perhaps something in rc.local
[20:07] <jasoon> I would ask on the forums
[20:07] <flotishtu> jasoon hm is there a auto way to configure ipmasq?
[20:07] <X-Seti> yeah wintv works well on one of my ubuntu boxes
[20:08] <jasoon> I can't think of how flotishtu
[20:08] <flotishtu> k
[20:08] <X-Seti> i was kind of proud of the fact i could watch digital tv on my linux box for the first time
[20:08] <jasoon> yeah that's cool x-seti
[20:08] <X-Seti> but i cant seem to make it happen on here
[20:08] <jasoon> so did you already run the adept-batch to get the restricted codecs?
[20:09] <jasoon> for avi/wmv and so on?
[20:09] <X-Seti> yep
[20:09] <jramskov> question: I can only copy a file from one konqueror or dolphin window to another by drag and drop - C&P doesn't work. Also if I mark some text in konqy (webbrowser) with the mouse, the marked text doesn't stay blue, but the text automatically gets copied into the clipboard and I can paste the text. How do I get this changed back?
[20:10] <jasoon> I don't know x-seti, that's strange
[20:10] <X-Seti> yep
[20:10] <jasoon> Do you watch the output in totem?
[20:10] <jasoon> on your working box?
[20:11] <X-Seti> k@UKscifi-Events:~$ sudo lsusb
[20:11] <X-Seti> [sudo] password for k:
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 006: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 05fe:1010 Chic Technology Corp.
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub
[20:11] <X-Seti> i use kaffeine only, has more support
[20:11] <jasoon> so kaffeine on your ubuntu box too?
[20:11] <X-Seti> thats what I see from here, so i know the device is being seen
[20:11] <X-Seti> yep
[20:11] <jasoon> yes you're right
[20:11] <X-Seti> the same config
[20:12] <jasoon> Have you tried reinstalling kaffeine?
[20:12] <jasoon> after purging it?
[20:12] <X-Seti> yeah but i cant find the config file for it
[20:12] <jasoon> it's in the home directory isn't
[20:13] <X-Seti> its like to think so, but nothing in there is names .kaffeine if thats the folder its ment to be under
[20:13] <jasoon> I just checked and you're right
[20:13] <jasoon> I have to go, but maybe check on the forums
[20:13] <X-Seti> k mate
[20:13] <X-Seti> thanks
[20:13] <jasoon> Lot of people with dvb issues
[20:14] <jasoon> sorry couldn't be more help, good luck :P
[20:14] <X-Seti> got a link
[20:14] <X-Seti> thats ok :)
[20:14] <jasoon> GF here bro ;)
[20:14] <jasoon> peace
[20:14] <X-Seti> hehe k mate
[20:25] <xomp> hey guys, trying to change my screen size so things aren't so freaking big lol. Currently I'm using 1400 x 1050 and my taskbar and such at the bottom are like an inch big lol
[20:25] <xomp> not too mention icons on the desktop are as big as half-dollars
[20:26] <jussi01> xomp: on kde3 or 4?
[20:26] <xomp> jussi01, kde4
[20:26] <jussi01> xomp: would you mind jumping over to #kubuntu-kde4 then? Thanks :)
[20:26] <xomp> jussi01, I just got off the backtrack 3 cd that uses kde4 and noticed how nice things look compared to my kubuntu box and am trying to emulate it's look haha
[20:27] <xomp> jussi01, kk, had no idea :)
[20:38] <TheGentleman> how do I play an Audio CD on Kubuntu Hardy?  It seems it can't see it
[20:41] <TheGentleman> I dunno if it worked or not with Gutsy before upgrading, as i think i never tryed playing one....
[20:43] <melkart> TheGentleman: i just tried on gutsy. works here
[20:43] <bascule> well it should just see it when you close the drawer
[20:43] <melkart> TheGentleman: although amarok took a long time to start
[20:44] <bascule> and offer to play/rip etcetera
[20:44] <TheGentleman> i think it should work... bt it doesn't in my case
[20:44] <fidelio> I still cannot get my printer to work.  Test works great thought. Any idea? Suggestions?
[20:45] <TheGentleman> bascule  if i chooose to play it, Amarok starts and nothing happens
[20:45] <heroicwisdom> can somebody tell me where to black list drivers?
[20:45] <teknoprep> how do i load compiz at boot time with KDE ?
[20:46] <heroicwisdom> or how to write a start up script
[20:46] <bascule> TheGentleman: hmm, I have seen such a thing, quite annoying, try kscd it is in kdemultimedia IIRC
[20:46] <bascule> it can be got alone it seems
[20:46] <bascule> !info kscd
[20:47] <TheGentleman> bascule: my concern is not to play that Audio CD... I can play it elsewhere.  But I cannot accept both amarok and vlc can't play an Audio CD!
[20:48] <bascule> seems odd to be fair
[20:50] <bascule> if you go into amarok ngage -> play audio cd what does it do?
[20:50] <bascule> engage*
[20:50] <TheGentleman> is it right that the Audio CD gets mounted as /dev/scd0 ?
[20:50] <bascule> no audio cds are not mounted
[20:50] <bascule> they have no filesytem in that regard
[20:51] <bascule> for me amarok creates a list of tunes in the playlist, I then double click and off it goes, is it one of those multi-media cds with video or such on it
[20:53] <TheGentleman> oh, now i can see the content of the CD in /media/scd0 using dolphin
[20:53] <bascule> kio_parts I guess
[20:54] <TheGentleman> but if i select a file ans chose to play using amarok nothing happens
[20:54] <bascule> and in amrok it's self, engage -> play audio cd ?
[20:54] <TheGentleman> nothing
[20:55] <TheGentleman> now i copied one of the wav files to my home and i can play it from there!
[20:56] <bascule> yeah
[20:56] <TheGentleman> so, it is not a problem related to audio formats
[20:56] <bascule> konqueror offers a nice rip-as-you-drag feature too
[20:57] <bascule> no, I wish I knew, one of those things, as it has always worked for me I can't help :)
[20:57] <TheGentleman> i know, but I only want amarok or any other media player to play my audio cd!
[20:58] <TheGentleman> shit! do I have to go back to windows to do such a simple thing as playing an Audio CD???????????????
[21:00] <bascule> if you goto amrok settings -> configure amarok engine what have you got set for cd defult device
[21:01] <TheGentleman> let me see...
[21:02] <TheGentleman> it's /dev/cdrom
[21:03] <bascule> and if you say in a terminal ls -l /dev/cdrom  is it there?
[21:04] <TheGentleman> no file or directory
[21:04] <bascule> ah ha
[21:04] <bascule> ls -l /dev/scd0
[21:05] <TheGentleman> ok, it is seen there!
[21:05] <bascule> so set the device to /dev/scd0 in amarok engine and see where we are
[21:08] <TheGentleman> nothing happens again......
[21:08] <bascule> you applied it i guess
[21:09] <TheGentleman>  i set amarok to /dev/scd0 and hit ok, then tried to play and nothing happened
[21:09] <TheGentleman> so I closed amarok and opened it again and the value was again set to /dev/cdrom!
[21:09] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: try "kaffeine -d /dev/scd0"
[21:10] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: or "amarok --cdplay /dev/scd0"
[21:11] <bascule> didn't hit apply at a guess
[21:11] <TheGentleman> amarok --cdplay /dev/scd0
[21:11] <bascule> I just changed,and it is fine
[21:12] <TheGentleman> after issuing the command for kaffffeine i got the following message:
[21:12] <TheGentleman> ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (376)
[21:12] <TheGentleman> and of course it didn't play anything............
[21:13] <heroicwisdom> hey can someboyd help me set up duel head on my PC? i have a nvidia 8600 video card
[21:13] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: it's dirt easy to do with the "nvidia-settings" application
[21:14] <heroicwisdom> where can i find that? do i have to install via the package handler?
[21:14] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: I can't remember, I think so though (this is an unwelcome change in hardy, IMO)
[21:15] <bascule> it is part of nvidia binary driver
[21:15] <heroicwisdom> ok i am installing some things right now, but when its finsihed i will look for it
[21:15] <TheGentleman> dwidmann_laptop, amarok says it can't create a io-slave   klauncher says protocol cdda unknown
[21:15] <bascule> kdemultimedia
[21:15] <jordan> is there a way to restore my package versions the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.
[21:16] <TheGentleman> and umbelievably amarok is now Playing it!!!!  a good minute later than i issued the command!!!
[21:16] <bascule> ?
[21:16] <heroicwisdom> ok i see it, im installing it now
[21:16] <bascule> well it is a littke slow to pick up
[21:17] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: hmmmmm
[21:17] <_crash_> cdda unknown?
[21:17] <_crash_> never seen that one
[21:17] <dwidmann_laptop> I've seen it, but forget how I resolved it ...
[21:17] <bascule> heroicwisdom: if you had the binary nvidia driver in already it should be there, there is a seperate package, but it will remove the driver, IIRC
[21:18] <TheGentleman> is it normal taht amarok sends an error message and then begins to play with a good minute delay?
[21:18] <bascule> for nvidia-settingss that is
[21:18] <heroicwisdom> i jsut installed the nvida settings package, but it did not remove the driver
[21:18] <bascule> o
[21:18] <heroicwisdom> the xconfig utilite was gunna though (but i did not install that)
[21:18] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: I wouldn't say that's normal at all, no.
[21:19] <heroicwisdom> im look at the settings util now, where can i control duel head?
[21:19] <bascule> maybe cause if the updated device descriptor ??
[21:19] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: look at the displays tab I think it is ... something like that
[21:19] <xomp> !info purekde
[21:19] <TheGentleman> unfortunately I can't tell how it used to be on gutsy... since i never tryed playing an Audo CD on it
[21:19] <dwidmann_laptop> !purekde | xomp
[21:20] <_crash_> I thought Kubuntu WAS purekde...
[21:20] <heroicwisdom> i dono, i saw nvida-xconfig, and i was gunna install that as well. but when i previewed the changes i saw it was gunna uninstall the driver, so i canceled that
[21:20] <xomp> thanks
[21:20] <bascule> heroicwisdom: thanks for the clarity, I remebered something :)
[21:20] <dwidmann_laptop> _crash_: that page saves the poor souls who installed gnome first, and then found out how much better KDE is :)
[21:20] <bascule> :D
[21:20] <xomp> has anyone experienced issues with enabling desktop effects in kde4?
[21:21] <jordan> xomp: yes
[21:21] <xomp> jordan, I'm getting nothing but black, no icons or taskbar etc. :(
[21:21] <dwidmann_laptop> xomp: which kinds of issues?
[21:21] <heroicwisdom> bascule: no problem. now what is xinerama?
[21:21] <bascule> !xinerama
[21:21] <xomp> I can see the menu if I click it's general location to logout and get back into gnome is all I can do now :(
[21:22] <bascule> the bot knows more than me :)
[21:22] <heroicwisdom> lol
[21:22] <bascule> I knew basically what it was
[21:22] <dwidmann_laptop> xomp: try changing the method it's using .... I forget where the setting is off hand, but I think if you go to kde4's system settings and go to desktop effects from there, it will let you change what it uses, ie: Xrender vs OpenGL, etc
[21:22] <jordan> xomp: hwen things like that happen, i move my .kde directory to a new name. that clears your user config
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> i see thanks for the info i dfo not want to use that, i like my two seprate displays.
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> whats the command to restart the x server?
[21:23] <jordan> xomp: .kde4 dir, i mean
[21:23] <xomp> jordan, lol I delted my .kde directory in terminal from gnome
[21:23] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: just log out, go to restart x from the kdm menu, and log back in :)
[21:23] <bascule> log out, or ctrl+alt+bksp <-- kills it dead be warned
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> ok ill be back!
[21:24] <bascule> as in no warning just stops and restarts X
[21:24] <xomp> jordan, after killing my .kde4 directory, would logging in and out restart X or would I need to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to accomplish that?
[21:24] <dwidmann_laptop> bascule: and kills all X apps without saving, etc
[21:24] <jordan> xomp: i'd do a full ctrl+alt+bkspace
[21:25] <xomp> jordan, ok, brb :D
[21:25] <jordan> xomp: good luck
[21:25] <jordan> is there a way to restore my package versions to the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.
[21:25] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I upgraded to Hardy and now my Firefox crashes all the time. Any hints?
[21:26] <dwidmann_laptop> Jordan, yes, but it will take some work
[21:26] <_crash_> note to self: dont hit ctrl+alt+bkspc again
[21:26] <dwidmann_laptop> busfahrer: it's a beta, how in the world it got into an Ubuntu Release is beyond me.
[21:27] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: more work than its worth on a week-old install?
[21:27] <dwidmann_laptop> jodan: no, not really, it's quite doable.
[21:27] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: cool. can you point me in the right direction?
[21:28] <dwidmann_laptop> jordan: in fact, I've done it recently
[21:28] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: sweet
[21:29] <heroicwisdom> yay it worked!
[21:32] <xomp> bah, I think it's just busted beyond fixing guys :(
[21:32] <heroicwisdom> are thier any good multimonitor utilites for linux like ultramon for windows?
[21:32] <xomp> I can't bring up system settings to remove the advanced effects setting cuz everything is black :(
[21:33] <jordan> xomp: can you log into kde4 as a different user?
[21:33] <xomp> jordan, not sure, i only have this one account
[21:33] <busfahrer`> Excuse me, ever since upgrading to Hardy (KDE 3.5.9 version), whenever text scrolls in a window (for example in Konversation), or when I open Yakuake, it feels slow, sluggish, you know what I mean. Any idea what could be behind this?
[21:34] <jordan> xomp: i'd try creating another user and see if all is well with kde4 under the new user
[21:34] <xomp> jordan, not a bad idea
[21:36] <xomp> wow, not being able to create a user with appropriate capitalization is so frustrating...
[21:36] <xomp> want to creat a user named "Joshua"? Too bad, your stuck with all lower case!!
[21:38] <busfahrer`> anybody, please? :-(
[21:39] <xomp> ok, kde4 is fine under another user
[21:39] <xomp> anyway to copy some things from this user account to my old one?
[21:41] <BluesKaj> busfahrer`, install htop and run it in the terminal to see what process is using up your resources
[21:41] <xomp> pavel_, from ACS?
[21:41] <busfahrer`> BluesKaj: my CPU is happy idling away
[21:42] <jordan> xomp: yeah, you can as root. sudo cp ... ...
[21:42] <dany89> nb m
[21:42] <jordan> xomp: just be sure chown the files to the new user after you copy them
[21:42] <dany89> ciau
[21:42] <xomp> jordan, sorry, should have been more specific lol. Anyway to move the files that will make kde4 work again onto my old account from this new account?
[21:43] <jordan> xomp: gotcha. im not sure which files kde stores your config in. i thought it would be .kde4
[21:44] <uga> jordan: standard kde stores configs under wherever $KDEHOME points to
[21:44] <uga> iirc kubuntu has modded it to default to .kde4
[21:44] <xomp> jordan, yeah, I'm stumped :S thinking about just reloading the whole OS, I've made so many changes in my learning process that I have more than likely snafu'd plenty of things hah
[21:45] <xomp> I'm thinking of replaceing gnome on my kids edubuntu box to kde4
[21:46] <xomp> I think they would enjoy it much more, they seem bored with gnome.
[21:47] <uga> xomp: I wanted to say games, but I installed some to a friend's kid last week, and I got very dissapointed
[21:47] <uga> games now fail running fullscreen
[21:47] <uga> unsupported video modes
[21:47] <xomp> uga, you installed some games to a friend's kid? hehe
[21:48] <uga> I had replaced their windows box for a linux kubuntu one
[21:48] <uga> and obviously they "need" games =)
[21:48] <xomp> ah lol
[21:48] <xomp> yeah i took windows xp off the kids pc and put edubuntu on it instead
[21:48] <uga> but most known games nice for kids like supertux would fail running
[21:49] <uga> tuxracer worked, since it does not do fullscreen by default
[21:58] <Zefir> I am using Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04. I have a Geforce 8800 GTS 320 MB. It all started with Compiz-Fusion. I tried installing the Snow plugin, compiled it and all, after reboot my screen went black. Since then every time I try to configure my gfx card, black screen after reboot...
[21:59] <Zefir> The only way I can fix it is go to recovery and use xfix. I miss my Compiz-Fusion effects dearly. I will be very grateful if someone helps me get them back. Just ask away if you need anymore info...
[22:03] <BluesKaj> !compiz | Zefir
[22:04] <_crash_> lol
[22:05] <Zefir> I think the problem has gone system-wide now, because every time I enable any graphics driver, well, no deal. Nevertheless, I shall try.
[22:05] <_crash_> Im still afraid to install linux on my desktop.
[22:05] <_crash_> Zefir: have you tried re-installing the gfx driver from scratch?
[22:06] <Zefir> Some time ago. You mean purge and reintall?
[22:06] <_crash_> yup
[22:07] <_crash_> nuke n pave will fix anything
[22:07] <_crash_> I hunger. I shall return later with more useless dribbel.
[22:08] <Zefir> Will try in a moment, thank you.
[22:11] <BluesKaj> Zefir, you may get more help in #compiz-fusion
[22:12] <Zefir> As I've said, I think the problem has spread to my whole system. But I shall ask there.
[22:13] <bascule> see if you can get the compiled plugin to remove cleanly
[22:13] <bascule> then do a remove and reinstall of all compiz stuff
[22:14] <Zefir> I think I'll reboot now, having purged and reinstalled the nvidia driver.
[22:14] <bascule> also try a new user account
[22:14] <Zefir> Well, there's this funny thing...
[22:14] <Zefir> I get a black screen when I log out.
[22:16] <bascule> hmmm, breakage
[22:16] <Zefir> I'm a natural at breaking things, that is for sure.
[22:17] <bascule> part if free os, so much can change :)
[22:17] <bascule> of*
[22:17] <Zefir> Someone should hire me for quality assurance, if I can't break it most people won't.
[22:17] <bascule> well, they like that in dev places
[22:17] <Zefir> Yay for career options.
[22:17] <bascule> give it to Zefir for 2 days, he'll knacker it :)
[22:18] <Zefir> I'll reboot now. Cya in a few minutes.
[22:19] <bascule> k
[22:21] <Zefir> Well, still got visual, but that's not surprising considering that I haven't turned the drivers on.
[22:22] <Zefir> I usually use System -> Hardware Drivers Manager, yay or nay? I think there are several ways to do this...
[22:23] <wesley> !adeptfix
[22:26] <al3x4ndr3> any repositore to get Qt 4.4 in Gutsy?
[22:29] <norman_x> hi out there. how can I switch of the kubuntu-picture during system start, and how can I let me show the startings texts in 1280x1024 resolution? I run Kubuntu 8.04 - and sorry for my bad english
[22:30] <_crash_> norman_x: thats actually a good question. Let me know if you get an answer on that one
[22:31] <norman_x> _crash_: yeah ;-) I heard about that with 8.04 grub cannot be modified more in that way, is that correct?
[22:31] <devath0> i think u can remove the splash screen pretty easy.. setting the res might be a bit more difficult
[22:32] <_crash_> devath0: Well, for instance the bootup on Backtrack 3 is nice and pretty. So there has to be a way to mod it
[22:32] <Zefir> What's the best way to enable/configure the nvidia_new drivers?
[22:34] <devath0> _crash_: for removing the kubuntu splash u can use "sudo apt-get remove ksplash" << -- but im unsure of how to change the boot res.
[22:35] <_crash_> devath0: Dont want to remove it so much as change it
[22:35] <devath0> ah
[22:42] <aleksandar> hello people
[22:46] <Zefir> Enabling ANY graphics drivers just screws things up! Damn. Enabling nvidia drivers = black screen at next reboot.
[22:58] <shaffy> can someone tell me how i list the read/write/executable attributes of a file?  is there an option via "ls"?
[22:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> "ls -l" I believe
[22:59] <Zefir> So, using EnvyNG gave me some interesting results in configuring my drivers.
[22:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> That's a lowercase L, by the way
[23:00] <Zefir> I got to the splash screen and after that I saw the "you're using low graphics settings now" window (I think), but it was all in a weird position, like, upper-right corner of the window in the lower-left corner of my screen...
[23:04] <shaffy> BonesolTeraDyne: thanks.  that did it just fine.  much appreciated!
[23:04] <xomp> can someone please help me? I've enabled the 'advanced desktop effects' under kde4 and now since doing that I can't see anything, desktop, taskbar, panel w/e. I've deleted .kde and it didn't help.
[23:05] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: Glad I could help
[23:05] <shaffy> can someone help me with this error ( http://pastebin.com/d2ad51016 )?  i've been trying to add the Wine to kubuntu's sources list, however, this appears to be happening.
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> xomp- #kubuntu-kde4 can probably help more
[23:06] <xomp> Dragnslcr, I've tried there and waited for 40 mins with no response.
[23:07] <xomp> Seems nobody is around today, no matter where you go lol. Maddening for someone needing help :(
[23:09] <sroyz> ...
[23:10] <xomp> Argh, I've wasted literally months with ubuntu just trying to get elementary things working. The day linux doesn't break by doing basic functions is the day I return to it. For now I'm going back to Windows, it's never let me down with basic functionality before.
[23:10] <bascule> shaffy: try again, i can see it
[23:10] <xomp> Cheers and Happy Mothers Day to all you Mothers in here!
[23:11] <bascule> that was a straight 404 error, gone now
[23:11] <shaffy> bascule: i still got the same error.
[23:12] <shaffy>  http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list appears not to be present on the server
[23:12] <bascule> put it in a browser, you will see it
[23:12] <bascule> only 2 lines
[23:13] <chillaKS> hi
[23:13] <chillaKS> help!
[23:13] <chillaKS> hello?
[23:13] <bascule> shaffy: i get in browser and from wget
[23:13] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: Just ask your question. If someone can help, they'll help
[23:14] <shaffy> when you put the above address in your browser, you do not get a 404 error??
[23:14] <bascule> nope
[23:14] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: nor do I
[23:14] <shaffy> weird, now it works.
[23:14] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne I did a massive Gutsy upgrade and b0rkd the Kernel
[23:14] <shaffy> weird, the file must have been absent?
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or you got an incorrect dns resolution
[23:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: How, exactly? Mind providing details?
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or a cached response
[23:15] <chillaKS> I cannot boot without initrd....bak
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or well, the server might have been buggy ;)
[23:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: you mean the initrd prompt? are you using a dell?
[23:16] <chillaKS> I mean the boot kernel has .bak at the end??
[23:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> initramfs*
[23:16] <shaffy> uga, BonesolTeraDyne and bascule thanks for the help.  it is appreciated.
[23:16] <shaffy> :)
[23:16] <bascule> np
[23:16] <uga> wow, I feel praised for not doing nothing
[23:16] <uga> s/nothing/anything
[23:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: Has .bak at the end? I've never seen that happen before...
[23:17] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne is not a dell, grub and the the files in boot dont match
[23:18] <bascule> uga: you bothered to check and answer, that is enough :)
[23:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> Sadly, I'm not sure. I don't mess with grub all that much.
[23:18] <bascule> it must be looking for that initrd
[23:19] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne and the recovery kernel has dpkg.bak
[23:19] <shaffy> i have a file, "WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" which is supposed to be an executable.  after performing chmod 755 on the file, and attempting to excute it in a terminal, i get the following error: "bash: WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl: command not found"   any ideas anyone?
[23:20] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: did you try "./WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" ?
[23:21] <shaffy> BonesolTeraDyne:   thanks :)
[23:22] <Zefir> This is so frustrating...
[23:22] <chillaKS> anyone?
[23:22] <chillaKS> the updater is borken
[23:23] <Corvix> chillaKS: tried a sudo update-grub ?
[23:23] <chillaKS> how to fix a kernel issue?
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: since it's a kernel problem, you might want to try to get an aswer from #ubuntu.
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> answer*
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> It's worth a shot
[23:23] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne why???!!
[23:23] <chillaKS> I am using kubuntu
[23:23] <bascule> chillaKS: let's see a paste of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:23] <Zefir> After running EnvyNG and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg I managed to get to the Nvidia splash screen, and then the screen went all... Umm... Torn up? It was in stripes, nothing in it's right place, looked like a refresh problem...
[23:23] <bascule> and ls /boot
[23:24] <BonesolTeraDyne> The kernel is used in both ubuntu and kubuntu. They're the same kernel
[23:24] <chillaKS> bascule k brb
[23:25] <Zefir> Perhaps I need another program to configure my monitor? But I can't find any...
[23:25] <chillaKS> don't leave
[23:25] <bascule> ?
[23:25] <bascule> Zefir: nvidia-settings-manager
[23:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> bascule: he's probably gone to get the info for you.
[23:25] <Corvix> Zefir: tried nvidia-settings
[23:26] <bascule> is it without manager now, I dunno :)
[23:26] <Zefir> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[23:26] <bascule> hmm
[23:26]  * Trevinyo è assente: Pero ora assente.
[23:26] <Zefir> I tried that a thousand times. Black screen.
[23:26] <bascule> envy eh?
[23:27] <Zefir> Using Hardware Drivers Manager = black screen after reboot.
[23:27] <Zefir> Using envy = the situation described above, splash screen, torn up view, but it's SOMETHING at least.
[23:27] <bascule> try #nvidia
[23:28] <Zefir> Ok.
[23:31] <Zefir> Once, just once, I managed to get a WHITE screen and I saw my compiz-fusion effects (the windows burn up when I minimize them, sweet)...
[23:32] <Itaku> im using KDE5 and when i play a song no sound comes out
[23:32] <Itaku> KDE4
[23:33] <bascule> amarok?
[23:33] <Itaku> yup
[23:33] <bascule> try changing outputs
[23:33] <Itaku> how?
[23:33] <bascule> settings configure amarok engine
[23:34] <Itaku> doesnt work
[23:34] <Itaku> no sound on my comp works at all
[23:34] <Itaku> not just amarok
[23:34] <bascule> ah
[23:34] <bascule> kmix shows a card and the volumes are ok?
[23:35] <Itaku> wheres kmix?
[23:35] <weswh-> what's the syntax to remove something with apt?
[23:35] <bascule> alt+f2 kmix <return>
[23:35] <bascule> aot-get remove <thing?
[23:35] <bascule> apt-get*
[23:35] <Itaku> alt+f2 doesnt do anything
[23:35] <bascule> ?
[23:36] <Itaku> i typed kmix in terminal
[23:36] <bascule> ok
[23:36] <Itaku> and a megaphone with lines show up
[23:36] <bascule> hmm
[23:36] <bascule> this is kmix :)
[23:36] <bascule> volume sliders
[23:36] <Itaku> ok
[23:37] <weswh-> so, apt-get* install <package>?
[23:37] <Itaku> al of them are aat max
[23:37] <sparr__> aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages that apt-get doesnt.  how can i convince it not to?
[23:37] <Zefir> So much for getting help on #nvidia, no response. *sigh*
[23:37] <bascule> weswh-: no, apt-get remove package_name to remove things
[23:37] <Itaku> all of the bars are at max
[23:38] <bascule> is the green light on on front?
[23:38] <Itaku> green light on on front?
[23:39] <Zefir> Should be under the slider.
[23:39] <Itaku> there are no green dots
[23:39] <bascule> at the top of the slider called front there is a green light
[23:39] <bascule> oh
[23:39] <Itaku> theres nothing under slider
[23:39] <Itaku> and theres check mark boxes
[23:39] <Zefir> Oh, on top in outpot, under in input. Hm, weird that.
[23:40] <Zefir> Check mark boxes? Huh.
[23:40] <egork> where can I configure how the ntfs-3g partition is auto-mounted by app-launcher?
[23:40] <Itaku> im using nvidia btw
[23:41] <bascule> never used nvidia sound
[23:41] <bascule> try in a shell alsamixer
[23:41] <Itaku> k
[23:42] <Itaku> aah it worked
[23:42] <Itaku> thanks a million
[23:42] <Itaku> you should be +o
[23:42] <bascule> np :)
[23:42] <bascule> heh, never!! :D
[23:42] <bascule> press escape to exit that
[23:43] <bascule> if you close the shell it tends to crash
[23:44] <egork> #kubuntu-kde4
[23:45] <bascule> !ntfs
[23:45] <egork> never mind that pleas, my question should be asked in that channel.
[23:46] <bascule> !ntfs =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[23:48] <egork> actually my problem is not witht the driver itself, just where to tell kde or ubuntu to mount new ntfs partitions with utf8
[23:48] <Wesley> libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4
[23:48] <endafy> hey i was wondering if kde 4 is worth the download
[23:48] <endafy> im on 3.5.9
[23:48] <endafy> like full kde installed and everything
[23:49] <Wesley> i wanna remove these packages but it wanna take whole kde4 with it how to remove only the packages i want to remove
[23:49] <bascule> depends if you wanna play with newness
[23:49] <uga> endafy: I suggest you to wait till 4.1 is out if you want to use it on a daily basis
[23:49] <endafy> well yes but stability is a matter
[23:49] <endafy> o ok ty
[23:49] <egork> KDE4 works for me... not perfect, but no reason to downgrade to KDE3 neither.
[23:49] <bascule> leave it then :)
[23:49] <uga> endafy: kde 4.0 is for testing purposes only
[23:49] <endafy> ahh
[23:49] <uga> and coding
[23:49] <endafy> lol
[23:50] <endafy> i used it once and didnt know how to use it
[23:50] <endafy> the whole icons as a widget confused me a bit
[23:50] <bascule> Wesley: just put sudo apt-get remove in front of that list
[23:50] <BluesKaj> kde3 is not a downgrade , it's mature desktop that works fine without silly eye candy widgets etc.
[23:50] <bascule> :)
[23:50] <endafy> i love kde3
[23:50] <endafy> i hope it only gets more stable
[23:50] <Wesley> bascule i did it takes whole kde4 with it
[23:51] <bascule> oh
[23:51] <uga> endafy: that'll be hard. kde 3.x has gone so many releases speeding it up and making it more stable
[23:51] <uga> and 4.0 was written from scratch
[23:51] <Wesley> ah shit i pushed enter
[23:51] <bascule> Wesley: well kde4 does need those :)
[23:51] <uga> it'll take some time reaching the same level of robustness
[23:51] <endafy> how do i get the cool kde 4 menu in kde3
[23:51] <bascule> now that I read them
[23:52] <uga> endafy: arf, you don't. Just wait =)
[23:52] <Wesley> bascule i was trying to get Qt still on 4.3
[23:52] <bascule> what is it now?
[23:52] <egork> bluesKaj :-) yesterday is not a downgrade too, but it is rock solid if you ask me :-)
[23:52] <uga> endafy: and it's fugly anyway, white, not themed...
[23:52] <bascule> !info libqt4-core
[23:52] <bascule> it is 4.3
[23:53] <Wesley> in backport it is Qt 4.4
[23:53] <bascule> oh
[23:53] <endafy> well so is the current menu the kickoff style menu is annoying i just wanted something like suse's menu
[23:53] <bascule> and you have upgraded to find it broken?
[23:53] <Wesley> theres now may to not upgrade Qt 4.3
[23:54] <bascule> maybe if you removed backports source and retry update .. ?
[23:54] <bascule> just a though, there are ways of forcing versions in apt IIRC
[23:54] <Wesley> i backport there is kde4 upgrade
[23:54] <bascule> yeah
[23:55] <Itaku> on my keyboard i got three keys that control the volume but when i press it they dont work how do i make them work??
[23:55] <BluesKaj> egork, kde4 wasn't stable on my pc , crashed & hung alot , and those crtooney widgets ,who needs them. Hence I dumped it :P
[23:55] <yulprand> hola
[23:55] <egork> itaku have you tried keytouch application?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta set up the sprinklers
[23:56] <endafy> Loved kde for a while ever since 1.4
[23:56] <uga> Itaku: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[23:56] <Wesley> Blueskaj dont mesh with garfield
[23:56] <yulprand> hola
[23:56] <yulprand> como puedo entrar al chat en español
[23:57] <uga> uhm... is there a kubuntu-es maybe?
[23:57] <bascule> !es
[23:57] <uga> yulprand: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[23:57] <yulprand> umm i don`t know
[23:57] <yulprand> vaaya thanks
[23:58] <yereth> hi guys
[23:58] <bascule> hello
[23:58] <yereth> I recently updated to 8.04 and have all kinds of problems
[23:58] <yereth> I fixed my nvidia stuff
[23:58] <yereth> but now no sound
[23:58] <endafy> well watashi nihongo nishi neo ubuntu - jp?
[23:58] <yereth> alsaconf doesn't exist
[23:58] <yereth> although I do have alsa-utils installed
[23:58] <yereth> any thoughts?
[23:58] <Zefir> How did you fix nvidia stuff, yereth?
[23:59] <bascule> yereth: I think alsaconf got dropped a while ago
[23:59] <yereth> appeared that grup didn't update properly, and was still loading the -14 kernel
[23:59] <yereth> bascule: any idea why my sound suddenly doesn't work?
[23:59] <yereth> or how I can reconfigure?
[23:59] <endafy> watashi nihongo, nishi neo ubuntu-jp?