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ScottK2Is somebody coordinating the libffi4 -> libffi5 transition?01:00
tmmoyerhas anyone worked with germinate and could tell me why when I list a metapackage as a seed it doesn't say I need the metapackage?02:14
tmmoyerdoes anyone know of an easy way to take a list of packages, and ensure that all dependecies are satisfied by some archive, specifically the archive that is present on the install CD.  what I am trying to do is starting from the server install cd for hardy, add a bunch of custom build packages to the cd, and ensure that I can install the system (including any packages on the CD) without a network connection02:19
pwnguini have an idea02:20
pwnguinpiuparts02:20
pwnguinjust make sure the piuparts chroot has identical packages to the server cd02:22
tmmoyerthat looks interesting, not sure it is exactly what I am looking for though.02:23
tmmoyeri think from looking around, I may have to come up with my own script to verify this, which while not hard is just time consuming to get correct.  I think I should be able to utilize things like apt-rdepends and such to retrieve all dependencies and also dpkg --info02:24
mgolischheya ppl02:54
DrivenMadHas anyone installed linux on a E-Vectra system( terminal box) ?? I keep getting blank screens04:31
DrivenMadI am trying to get ANY linux distro to run on these boxes to build a public wifi network :)04:32
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DrivenMadnot yet .. :) I am About to though :)05:17
dmbis it me, or is http://packages.ubuntu.com not working very well right now?05:23
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LaserJockdmb: perhaps not. The guy that runs it is looking for a new place to host it05:27
LaserJockperhaps his server went down for a bit05:27
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* jdong reads arnieboy's comments about mjg59 a few times... sure that he is misreading it repeatedly.07:35
pwnguinjdong: link?07:52
jdonghttp://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424&view=findpost&p=633107:53
jdongpwnguin: a bit disturbing.\07:53
pwnguinbut par for course07:54
Amaranthheh07:57
AmaranthI just read that07:57
* pwnguin suggests that mvo offer the next "design review" ;)07:59
pwnguinkinda reminds me of that guy who came in a few days ago accusing apt-rsync detractors as unforward thinking, selfish and unempathetic08:02
Hobbseejdong: sounds like good crack!08:05
Hobbseejdavies: right, so he still didn't learn :(08:06
Hobbseejdong: then again, do you really expect any better from a 'kill -9 dpkg'er?08:08
Auzyhey08:23
Hobbseehi08:29
Auzyquiet day?08:41
Hobbseeit's a sunday, so yes08:42
Hobbseeand launchpad had been down08:42
Auzyah08:42
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wgrantjdong: ... wow.09:08
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matty3269Hi all10:42
matty3269Please could somebody help me, I am looking for a system call or an API that I can use to get the model name of all the network cards inside a ubuntu box, does anybody know how i could do this?10:43
pwnguinlspci?10:47
pwnguinor perhaps lshw10:47
matty3269yeah I was thinking that. Although i would like to resolve it to an interface name so  I could get the IP address etc for it.10:49
pwnguinifconfig10:49
matty3269yeah but that doesnt give the manufacturer and model does it?10:51
pwnguinso glue them together10:52
pwnguinor perhaps lshal10:53
matty3269Yeah i looked at hal and was looking at the API for it, looked rather complicated, so I may just use a g_spawn_command_line_sync instead10:54
matty3269does anybody know how i can get started on developing applications for ubuntu?11:15
TheInfinitymatty3269: like every other development for linux11:17
bimberi!develop | matty326911:36
ubottumatty3269: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment11:36
matty3269bimberi, thanks11:38
bimberimatty3269: yw11:38
mathrickhi, it seems that packages.ubuntu.com is down11:39
bimberimathrick: #canonical-sysadmin might be a good place to report that11:42
mathrickok11:42
bimberimathrick: feel free to point at me if that's wrong :)11:42
mathrickok :)11:43
mathrickalso, what on earth happened to hal-device-manager in hardy?11:43
mathrickit disappeared completely, not even the package is there11:43
cody-somervilleGerminate is still writing to germinate-output/$DISTRO.hardy12:09
Keybukmathrick: it's called gnome-device-manager now12:56
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mjg59Anyone around with a laptop with a geforce 8000 or greater? (Not a Dell or Thinkpad)13:52
mathrickKeybuk: oh'14:17
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jerryhi, everyone! where could I get my first task ?15:12
cjwatsoncody-somerville: thanks, I'll fix that15:24
cody-somerville:)15:24
cjwatsoncody-somerville: just hadn't changed it since the archive wasn't in place yet when I was last poking at that stuff15:25
* cody-somerville nods.15:25
cjwatsonwill be fixed next crontab run15:25
cjwatson2 */4 * * *             update-germinate15:25
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ryanakcadoko: ping, mind if I attempt to merge john ?17:13
xhakermjg59: got a nvidia 8600 here.17:44
mjg59xhaker: What machine?17:50
andrew___Does anyone have any ideas how I could track down the cause of a weird issue with keyboard preferences being ignored?18:19
xhakermjg59: LG r50018:33
xhakermjg59: sorry for the delay, want me to try something? having problems?18:34
mjg59xhaker: Can you do acpidump and stick the output somewhere?18:34
pochuwhy isn't MoM being updated?19:00
LaserJockmaybe it got stuck19:01
juliuxhi doko19:02
* xhaker really needs to get notifications for irssi19:07
t4gxhaker: http://pthree.org/2007/03/21/irssi-gui-notify/19:09
xhakermjg59: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11465/19:11
xhakert4g: thanks for the link. I might try to setup that.19:14
mjg59xhaker: Ok, thanks for that19:15
t4gxhaker: np19:16
emgentheya people19:23
Keybukpochu: it's not MoM, it's the actual Ubuntu archive19:34
pochuKeybuk: I guess Colin or somebody is aware of it? :)19:37
pochuKeybuk: btw do you know when MoM will have comments support? It's being done, right?19:37
LaserJockpochu: I was told it just needed to get merged in19:44
Keybukpochu: elmo is aware of it20:00
KeybukLaserJock: it also needs a bunch of support on the machine like mod_python20:00
Keybukand a security audit since it's running from the DC20:00
KeybukI've been monumentally busy, so haven't had a chance yet20:00
Keybukit's on my things to do during relaxed hours at UDS20:00
LaserJockKeybuk: ah, makes sense20:02
Skiessiwhy libsamplerate hasn't been updated?21:18
SkiessiI mean I think it should21:20
norsettoSkiessi: its a merge21:21
slangasekok, so what's changed in g-p-m/hal in hardy-proposed, that my laptop now suspends to ram when idle only when the lid is /open/?22:34
Nafalloehrm...22:35
pwnguinheh22:35
ScottKslangasek: Nothing AFAICT (No gpm package and HAL seems unrelated).  It's seemed to me that suspend has gotten more problematic since release, but I'm not sure where to point.22:42
pwnguinScottK: i had a guy in #ubuntu-kernel git-bisect and he came up with a watchdog timer commit22:47
ScottKpwnguin: You mean for hal?22:47
pwnguinno =/22:48
ScottKOK.  'cause the hal change is a timer change.22:48
pwnguininteresting22:48
ScottKBut it's a change for CD ROM detection.  I can't see how that would affect suspend22:49
pwnguinunfortunately, I lent out my laptop, and it suffered from a suspend bug22:50
pwnguinfor ages. ive never been able to suspend it22:50

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