[01:00] <ScottK2> Is somebody coordinating the libffi4 -> libffi5 transition?
[02:14] <tmmoyer> has anyone worked with germinate and could tell me why when I list a metapackage as a seed it doesn't say I need the metapackage?
[02:19] <tmmoyer> does anyone know of an easy way to take a list of packages, and ensure that all dependecies are satisfied by some archive, specifically the archive that is present on the install CD.  what I am trying to do is starting from the server install cd for hardy, add a bunch of custom build packages to the cd, and ensure that I can install the system (including any packages on the CD) without a network connection
[02:20] <pwnguin> i have an idea
[02:20] <pwnguin> piuparts
[02:22] <pwnguin> just make sure the piuparts chroot has identical packages to the server cd
[02:23] <tmmoyer> that looks interesting, not sure it is exactly what I am looking for though.
[02:24] <tmmoyer> i think from looking around, I may have to come up with my own script to verify this, which while not hard is just time consuming to get correct.  I think I should be able to utilize things like apt-rdepends and such to retrieve all dependencies and also dpkg --info
[02:54] <mgolisch> heya ppl
[04:31] <DrivenMad> Has anyone installed linux on a E-Vectra system( terminal box) ?? I keep getting blank screens
[04:32] <DrivenMad> I am trying to get ANY linux distro to run on these boxes to build a public wifi network :)
[05:17] <DrivenMad> not yet .. :) I am About to though :)
[05:23] <dmb> is it me, or is http://packages.ubuntu.com not working very well right now?
[05:27] <LaserJock> dmb: perhaps not. The guy that runs it is looking for a new place to host it
[05:27] <LaserJock> perhaps his server went down for a bit
[07:35]  * jdong reads arnieboy's comments about mjg59 a few times... sure that he is misreading it repeatedly.
[07:52] <pwnguin> jdong: link?
[07:53] <jdong> http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424&view=findpost&p=6331
[07:53] <jdong> pwnguin: a bit disturbing.\
[07:54] <pwnguin> but par for course
[07:57] <Amaranth> heh
[07:57] <Amaranth> I just read that
[07:59]  * pwnguin suggests that mvo offer the next "design review" ;)
[08:02] <pwnguin> kinda reminds me of that guy who came in a few days ago accusing apt-rsync detractors as unforward thinking, selfish and unempathetic
[08:05] <Hobbsee> jdong: sounds like good crack!
[08:06] <Hobbsee> jdavies: right, so he still didn't learn :(
[08:08] <Hobbsee> jdong: then again, do you really expect any better from a 'kill -9 dpkg'er?
[08:23] <Auzy> hey
[08:29] <Hobbsee> hi
[08:41] <Auzy> quiet day?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> it's a sunday, so yes
[08:42] <Hobbsee> and launchpad had been down
[08:42] <Auzy> ah
[09:08] <wgrant> jdong: ... wow.
[10:42] <matty3269> Hi all
[10:43] <matty3269> Please could somebody help me, I am looking for a system call or an API that I can use to get the model name of all the network cards inside a ubuntu box, does anybody know how i could do this?
[10:47] <pwnguin> lspci?
[10:47] <pwnguin> or perhaps lshw
[10:49] <matty3269> yeah I was thinking that. Although i would like to resolve it to an interface name so  I could get the IP address etc for it.
[10:49] <pwnguin> ifconfig
[10:51] <matty3269> yeah but that doesnt give the manufacturer and model does it?
[10:52] <pwnguin> so glue them together
[10:53] <pwnguin> or perhaps lshal
[10:54] <matty3269> Yeah i looked at hal and was looking at the API for it, looked rather complicated, so I may just use a g_spawn_command_line_sync instead
[11:15] <matty3269> does anybody know how i can get started on developing applications for ubuntu?
[11:17] <TheInfinity> matty3269: like every other development for linux
[11:36] <bimberi> !develop | matty3269
[11:38] <matty3269> bimberi, thanks
[11:38] <bimberi> matty3269: yw
[11:39] <mathrick> hi, it seems that packages.ubuntu.com is down
[11:42] <bimberi> mathrick: #canonical-sysadmin might be a good place to report that
[11:42] <mathrick> ok
[11:42] <bimberi> mathrick: feel free to point at me if that's wrong :)
[11:43] <mathrick> ok :)
[11:43] <mathrick> also, what on earth happened to hal-device-manager in hardy?
[11:43] <mathrick> it disappeared completely, not even the package is there
[12:09] <cody-somerville> Germinate is still writing to germinate-output/$DISTRO.hardy
[12:56] <Keybuk> mathrick: it's called gnome-device-manager now
[13:52] <mjg59> Anyone around with a laptop with a geforce 8000 or greater? (Not a Dell or Thinkpad)
[14:17] <mathrick> Keybuk: oh'
[15:12] <jerry> hi, everyone! where could I get my first task ?
[15:24] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: thanks, I'll fix that
[15:24] <cody-somerville> :)
[15:25] <cjwatson> cody-somerville: just hadn't changed it since the archive wasn't in place yet when I was last poking at that stuff
[15:25]  * cody-somerville nods.
[15:25] <cjwatson> will be fixed next crontab run
[15:25] <cjwatson> 2 */4 * * *             update-germinate
[17:13] <ryanakca> doko: ping, mind if I attempt to merge john ?
[17:44] <xhaker> mjg59: got a nvidia 8600 here.
[17:50] <mjg59> xhaker: What machine?
[18:19] <andrew___> Does anyone have any ideas how I could track down the cause of a weird issue with keyboard preferences being ignored?
[18:33] <xhaker> mjg59: LG r500
[18:34] <xhaker> mjg59: sorry for the delay, want me to try something? having problems?
[18:34] <mjg59> xhaker: Can you do acpidump and stick the output somewhere?
[19:00] <pochu> why isn't MoM being updated?
[19:01] <LaserJock> maybe it got stuck
[19:02] <juliux> hi doko
[19:07]  * xhaker really needs to get notifications for irssi
[19:09] <t4g> xhaker: http://pthree.org/2007/03/21/irssi-gui-notify/
[19:11] <xhaker> mjg59: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11465/
[19:14] <xhaker> t4g: thanks for the link. I might try to setup that.
[19:15] <mjg59> xhaker: Ok, thanks for that
[19:16] <t4g> xhaker: np
[19:23] <emgent> heya people
[19:34] <Keybuk> pochu: it's not MoM, it's the actual Ubuntu archive
[19:37] <pochu> Keybuk: I guess Colin or somebody is aware of it? :)
[19:37] <pochu> Keybuk: btw do you know when MoM will have comments support? It's being done, right?
[19:44] <LaserJock> pochu: I was told it just needed to get merged in
[20:00] <Keybuk> pochu: elmo is aware of it
[20:00] <Keybuk> LaserJock: it also needs a bunch of support on the machine like mod_python
[20:00] <Keybuk> and a security audit since it's running from the DC
[20:00] <Keybuk> I've been monumentally busy, so haven't had a chance yet
[20:00] <Keybuk> it's on my things to do during relaxed hours at UDS
[20:02] <LaserJock> Keybuk: ah, makes sense
[21:18] <Skiessi> why libsamplerate hasn't been updated?
[21:20] <Skiessi> I mean I think it should
[21:21] <norsetto> Skiessi: its a merge
[22:34] <slangasek> ok, so what's changed in g-p-m/hal in hardy-proposed, that my laptop now suspends to ram when idle only when the lid is /open/?
[22:35] <Nafallo> ehrm...
[22:35] <pwnguin> heh
[22:42] <ScottK> slangasek: Nothing AFAICT (No gpm package and HAL seems unrelated).  It's seemed to me that suspend has gotten more problematic since release, but I'm not sure where to point.
[22:47] <pwnguin> ScottK: i had a guy in #ubuntu-kernel git-bisect and he came up with a watchdog timer commit
[22:47] <ScottK> pwnguin: You mean for hal?
[22:48] <pwnguin> no =/
[22:48] <ScottK> OK.  'cause the hal change is a timer change.
[22:48] <pwnguin> interesting
[22:49] <ScottK> But it's a change for CD ROM detection.  I can't see how that would affect suspend
[22:50] <pwnguin> unfortunately, I lent out my laptop, and it suffered from a suspend bug
[22:50] <pwnguin> for ages. ive never been able to suspend it