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gnomefre1ki dont see anything after i said brb00:00
gnomefre1kit looks like connection died00:01
fta<gnomefreak> no i can but still default shount interupt your work like that00:01
fta<fta> i won't change that in ff3, it's more for ubufox00:01
fta<fta> but it's usability, so people will never agree00:01
fta<fta> i prefer the tab to raise, but i don't want the window to raise or change desktop or the focus to be stolen00:01
fta<fta> it's all fine here. but i had to drop ubufox because of that00:01
fta* gnomefre1k (n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-24.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam00:01
ftadidn't get your brb00:01
gnomefre1keverytime you open ff in tab or window it steals focus, it should NEVER imho steal focus on tab00:02
gnomefre1kthe tab gets raised all the time that is good00:02
gnomefre1k18:52 <      gnomefreak > Lp is slow as crap atm00:02
gnomefre1k18:52 <      gnomefreak > or that option fucked with loading pages00:02
gnomefre1k18:53 <      gnomefreak > little better00:02
gnomefre1k18:54 <      gnomefreak > looks like perl is still screwed up in intrepid00:02
gnomefre1k18:55 <      gnomefreak > brb testing something with songbird (i think it knows  me too well :()00:02
gnomefre1kjust incase you missed it all00:02
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ftatry to disable ubufox and restart ff00:03
gnomefreakand songbird is fixed :)00:03
gnomefreakhow to disable it? the setting i changed worked fine00:03
ftain the add-ons ui00:04
gnomefreakoh yeah forgot it was an addon00:04
gnomefreakfirefox 3 in00:05
gnomefreakill be back im cooking dinner late00:09
alex_mayorgafta, does www.etn.com.mx loads on your FF3?02:22
[reed]we'll have a showstopper03:51
[reed]:)03:51
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gnomefreakthat site loads fine here in ff305:13
* gnomefreak looling for a good mozilla quote05:23
gnomefreakanyone know of a good guide to mutt (or a better text-based email) procmail, mutt, alpine anyothers that are easy to set up and easy to work, i would really see if its for me05:33
gnomefreakanyone here that remembers how to change your unix password from terminal?06:29
armin76hahaha11:30
armin76ubuntu users... :P11:30
Jazzvaasac: ping12:33
devilsadvocatewhy does ubuntu firefox 3 have different (and not in a good way) with the upstream one (comparing with win32 firefox beta5) when dealing with untrusted certificates?12:51
devilsadvocatei am not given an option to add an exception, and it just dies there asking em to contact the site administrator12:52
devilsadvocatehow do i add the exception, if i wanted to, or change the behaviour12:54
* devilsadvocate cant access his instiute email (MS exchange server) withough rebooting12:55
Jazzvadevilsadvocate: It works fine here. FF will present you a page with a link "Or you can add an exception...", when you click on it you will see a button "Add an exception", then you get certificate, and approve it.13:12
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Jazzvaasac: I'm thinking about submitting fix for teatime to Debian, so it can be synced back to intrepid. I'm reading about NMUs, but I'm confused. I shouldn't prepare NMU, but just a patch for buggy files, and submit it to Debian BTS, right?13:39
Jazzvaasac: Nevermind... I just submitted the patch. :)13:53
ftaJazzva, btw, i'm using it several times a day :)13:54
Jazzvafta: I'm glad it works for you :)13:54
JazzvaIt would be great if it gets accepted to Debian, so it can be synced back :)13:54
ftai wish it was possible to re-order the teas13:55
JazzvaWell, the upstream stopped teatime development14:01
JazzvaHmm... funny things happening. brb14:24
ftaJazzva, http://debaday.debian.net/2008/05/11/kteatime-small-tray-utility-which-reminds-you-of-steeping-tea/22:00
Jazzvafta: I noticed it today on packages.ubuntu.com, while searching for teatime...22:01
JazzvaGo for it, if it's better :)22:01
ftait's kde22:02
JazzvaI know ;)22:02
ftaand i'm not ;)22:02
JazzvaI still use Amarok only for wake-up playlists (it has some script for that)... and there's virtualbox ose22:02
JazzvaHaven't checked in a while if rhythmbox has a plugin for alarm clock :)22:03
asacsorry ... was at the beach ;)22:35
ftaasac, or anyone, could you have a look at taglib in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid and let me know what you think ?22:36
ftaasac, in germany ?22:37
asacyeah here in hamburg ;)22:37
ftaeh?22:38
asachttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=falkensteiner+ufer,+hamburg&sll=53.565038,9.77412&sspn=0.008347,0.018475&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=15&iwloc=addr22:39
asacthats where it is ;)22:39
ftait's a river :)22:39
asacyeah, but the sand is ok :)22:39
asacand its not that far from the sea :-D22:40
asacjust move to the left22:40
ftai have the same near my place but it's far from the sea22:40
asachttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=kiel&ie=UTF8&ll=54.334143,10.166473&spn=0.262231,0.591202&t=h&z=1122:40
asacthats the other city i live22:41
asacits directly at the sea ;)22:41
asacis 1.5 compatible with songbird?22:42
ftano22:42
asacare there any rdepends on taglib?22:42
asacother than songbird22:42
ftayes22:42
ftaapt-cache rdepends libtag1c2a | wc -l22:42
fta3822:42
asacso what does songbird need?22:43
ftastuff they implemented, m4a, id3, etc.22:43
asaci mean which version. maybe its obvious, but its not on that wiki page explicitly22:44
asac1.4?22:44
asacor do they have a patched version?22:44
ftathey provide patched in source taglib, and binaries22:44
asacdoesn't sound too promissing ;)22:47
asacdo they maintain patches in distinct fashion?22:47
asac(for taglib that is)22:47
asacgnomefreak gone?22:47
ftano, it's directly patched, and they have a merge script22:48
ftaand merge notes22:48
ftahttp://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/browser/trunk/dependencies/vendor/taglib/songbird_merge_notes.txt22:48
asacok. beautiful22:49
asacdo we know what they change?22:49
asacwhat size has the diff?22:49
ftai diffed it yesterday22:49
ftashows 49 files changed, 2356 insertions(+), 467 deletions(-)22:50
asacyou have the complete diffstate? so i see what files are touched?22:50
asacif not its ok. just wondering if its still comprehensible ;)22:51
asacor if every chance of cutting out patches for upstream submissin/review is hopeless22:51
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11514/22:51
asachmm could you see what those changes are about? just new tags?22:52
ftadiff is 138k22:52
asacdid you ignore whitespaces when diffing?22:55
ftahttp://pastebin.com/f4f818c9422:57
asachmm ... they add zillions of attribtes to some tags.23:02
asacdo those make sense for taglib in general?23:02
ftai think so23:03
ftathe problem is i don't know if they send that upstream or not23:03
asacok all the tag stuff should be submitted upstream i guess23:03
asacbut what is tfile.cpp and friends about?23:04
asacfor me it looks a bit like merge cruft that accumulated ;)23:04
asacbut maybe i just miss the feature added in such an intrusive fashion ;)23:04
asacwell ... appeasr to add localfile things23:05
asacdoesn't upstreawm support that. a bit strange imo23:05
asacfta: is there any active songbird upstreamer that we could ask to join this channel?23:09
ftano idea, i joined their channel yesterday only23:11
asacon freenode?23:11
ftamzo23:11
ftamoz23:11
asacok23:13
ftathey have a 32bit builder running gutsy23:19
asacbut they produce .tar.gz from that?23:20
ftayes23:31
ftathe 64bit linux builder is running FC823:32

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