[00:00] i dont see anything after i said brb [00:01] it looks like connection died [00:01] no i can but still default shount interupt your work like that [00:01] i won't change that in ff3, it's more for ubufox [00:01] but it's usability, so people will never agree [00:01] i prefer the tab to raise, but i don't want the window to raise or change desktop or the focus to be stolen [00:01] it's all fine here. but i had to drop ubufox because of that [00:01] * gnomefre1k (n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-24.rmo.bellsouth.net) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [00:01] didn't get your brb [00:02] everytime you open ff in tab or window it steals focus, it should NEVER imho steal focus on tab [00:02] the tab gets raised all the time that is good [00:02] 18:52 < gnomefreak > Lp is slow as crap atm [00:02] 18:52 < gnomefreak > or that option fucked with loading pages [00:02] 18:53 < gnomefreak > little better [00:02] 18:54 < gnomefreak > looks like perl is still screwed up in intrepid [00:02] 18:55 < gnomefreak > brb testing something with songbird (i think it knows me too well :() [00:02] just incase you missed it all === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [00:03] try to disable ubufox and restart ff [00:03] and songbird is fixed :) [00:03] how to disable it? the setting i changed worked fine [00:04] in the add-ons ui [00:04] oh yeah forgot it was an addon [00:05] firefox 3 in [00:09] ill be back im cooking dinner late [02:22] fta, does www.etn.com.mx loads on your FF3? [03:51] <[reed]> we'll have a showstopper [03:51] <[reed]> :) === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [05:13] that site loads fine here in ff3 [05:23] * gnomefreak looling for a good mozilla quote [05:33] anyone know of a good guide to mutt (or a better text-based email) procmail, mutt, alpine anyothers that are easy to set up and easy to work, i would really see if its for me [06:29] anyone here that remembers how to change your unix password from terminal? [11:30] hahaha [11:30] ubuntu users... :P [12:33] asac: ping [12:51] why does ubuntu firefox 3 have different (and not in a good way) with the upstream one (comparing with win32 firefox beta5) when dealing with untrusted certificates? [12:52] i am not given an option to add an exception, and it just dies there asking em to contact the site administrator [12:54] how do i add the exception, if i wanted to, or change the behaviour [12:55] * devilsadvocate cant access his instiute email (MS exchange server) withough rebooting [13:12] devilsadvocate: It works fine here. FF will present you a page with a link "Or you can add an exception...", when you click on it you will see a button "Add an exception", then you get certificate, and approve it. === asac_ is now known as asac [13:39] asac: I'm thinking about submitting fix for teatime to Debian, so it can be synced back to intrepid. I'm reading about NMUs, but I'm confused. I shouldn't prepare NMU, but just a patch for buggy files, and submit it to Debian BTS, right? [13:53] asac: Nevermind... I just submitted the patch. :) [13:54] Jazzva, btw, i'm using it several times a day :) [13:54] fta: I'm glad it works for you :) [13:54] It would be great if it gets accepted to Debian, so it can be synced back :) [13:55] i wish it was possible to re-order the teas [14:01] Well, the upstream stopped teatime development [14:24] Hmm... funny things happening. brb [22:00] Jazzva, http://debaday.debian.net/2008/05/11/kteatime-small-tray-utility-which-reminds-you-of-steeping-tea/ [22:01] fta: I noticed it today on packages.ubuntu.com, while searching for teatime... [22:01] Go for it, if it's better :) [22:02] it's kde [22:02] I know ;) [22:02] and i'm not ;) [22:02] I still use Amarok only for wake-up playlists (it has some script for that)... and there's virtualbox ose [22:03] Haven't checked in a while if rhythmbox has a plugin for alarm clock :) [22:35] sorry ... was at the beach ;) [22:36] asac, or anyone, could you have a look at taglib in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid and let me know what you think ? [22:37] asac, in germany ? [22:37] yeah here in hamburg ;) [22:38] eh? [22:39] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=falkensteiner+ufer,+hamburg&sll=53.565038,9.77412&sspn=0.008347,0.018475&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=15&iwloc=addr [22:39] thats where it is ;) [22:39] it's a river :) [22:39] yeah, but the sand is ok :) [22:40] and its not that far from the sea :-D [22:40] just move to the left [22:40] i have the same near my place but it's far from the sea [22:40] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=kiel&ie=UTF8&ll=54.334143,10.166473&spn=0.262231,0.591202&t=h&z=11 [22:41] thats the other city i live [22:41] its directly at the sea ;) [22:42] is 1.5 compatible with songbird? [22:42] no [22:42] are there any rdepends on taglib? [22:42] other than songbird [22:42] yes [22:42] apt-cache rdepends libtag1c2a | wc -l [22:42] 38 [22:43] so what does songbird need? [22:43] stuff they implemented, m4a, id3, etc. [22:44] i mean which version. maybe its obvious, but its not on that wiki page explicitly [22:44] 1.4? [22:44] or do they have a patched version? [22:44] they provide patched in source taglib, and binaries [22:47] doesn't sound too promissing ;) [22:47] do they maintain patches in distinct fashion? [22:47] (for taglib that is) [22:47] gnomefreak gone? [22:48] no, it's directly patched, and they have a merge script [22:48] and merge notes [22:48] http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/browser/trunk/dependencies/vendor/taglib/songbird_merge_notes.txt [22:49] ok. beautiful [22:49] do we know what they change? [22:49] what size has the diff? [22:49] i diffed it yesterday [22:50] shows 49 files changed, 2356 insertions(+), 467 deletions(-) [22:50] you have the complete diffstate? so i see what files are touched? [22:51] if not its ok. just wondering if its still comprehensible ;) [22:51] or if every chance of cutting out patches for upstream submissin/review is hopeless [22:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11514/ [22:52] hmm could you see what those changes are about? just new tags? [22:52] diff is 138k [22:55] did you ignore whitespaces when diffing? [22:57] http://pastebin.com/f4f818c94 [23:02] hmm ... they add zillions of attribtes to some tags. [23:02] do those make sense for taglib in general? [23:03] i think so [23:03] the problem is i don't know if they send that upstream or not [23:03] ok all the tag stuff should be submitted upstream i guess [23:04] but what is tfile.cpp and friends about? [23:04] for me it looks a bit like merge cruft that accumulated ;) [23:04] but maybe i just miss the feature added in such an intrusive fashion ;) [23:05] well ... appeasr to add localfile things [23:05] doesn't upstreawm support that. a bit strange imo [23:09] fta: is there any active songbird upstreamer that we could ask to join this channel? [23:11] no idea, i joined their channel yesterday only [23:11] on freenode? [23:11] mzo [23:11] moz [23:13] ok [23:19] they have a 32bit builder running gutsy [23:20] but they produce .tar.gz from that? [23:31] yes [23:32] the 64bit linux builder is running FC8