| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| Wubi_Nubi | hi | 00:38 |
|---|---|---|
| PriceChild | Hey there Wubi_Nubi | 00:39 |
| Wubi_Nubi | can anyone please guide me to the right place to ask this question. Wubi creates a file on ntfs disk, which it then reads as a file system. This file exists on ntfs partition. Does wubi/ubuntu in that boot setup go through some sort of ntfs kernel driver? | 00:39 |
| Wubi_Nubi | wouldn't that make it slow, since you have another driver layer in the middle? | 00:39 |
| Wubi_Nubi | where can I ask this question, #ubuntu main channel is too fast | 00:39 |
| Wubi_Nubi | I can't read anything :( | 00:39 |
| Wubi_Nubi | PriceChild hi to you | 00:42 |
| Wubi_Nubi | you seem active atm, could you please advise | 00:42 |
| Seeker` | Wubi_Nubi: #ubuntu is the official support channel | 00:43 |
| Wubi_Nubi | i asked there many times but no answer, and its too busy and fast and its very hard for me to read | 00:44 |
| Wubi_Nubi | is there a wubi/ubuntu developers channel that I can ask in | 00:44 |
| Wubi_Nubi | a smaller channel? | 00:44 |
| PriceChild | Wubi_Nubi: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php | 00:48 |
| nalioth | Wubi_Nubi: /msg chanserv list *wubi* | 00:48 |
| PriceChild | Wubi_Nubi: I believe that will answer your question. | 00:48 |
| Wubi_Nubi | PriceChild I read it, and the forums and the wiki, and I was unable to find the answer | 00:49 |
| Wubi_Nubi | thank you very much, nalioth oh you can msg too | 00:49 |
| Wubi_Nubi | oh wow | 00:49 |
| PriceChild | Wubi_Nubi: there is a "What is the performance?" heading | 00:49 |
| Wubi_Nubi | PriceChild it must have escaped me | 00:49 |
| PriceChild | basically says "yes, there's a performance hit, and make sure to keep defragmented" | 00:49 |
| Wubi_Nubi | thanks buddy | 00:50 |
| Wubi_Nubi | have a good night fellas | 00:50 |
| Wubi_Nubi | bye bye :) | 00:50 |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| elkbuntu | i think the floodbots might not be doing the mibbit unbanning properly | 05:33 |
| gnomefreak | anyone knwo fo a good mutt or procmail guide? | 05:44 |
| gnomefreak | !info gotmail | 05:51 |
| ubottu | gotmail (source: gotmail): utility to download email from a Hotmail or MSN account. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-1 (hardy), package size 38 kB, installed size 124 kB | 05:51 |
| bazhang | nice part message from Flip2405 | 06:31 |
| elkbuntu | bazhang, you are allowed to paste them to here to save us having to find the needle in the haystack | 06:35 |
| bazhang | okay elkbuntu it is very graphic though | 06:36 |
| gnomefreak | Bad: new password is too simple << when the hell did this happen :( | 06:36 |
| elkbuntu | gnomefreak, with what? | 06:36 |
| gnomefreak | passwd | 06:37 |
| elkbuntu | ... | 06:37 |
| elkbuntu | that's not going to go well | 06:37 |
| gnomefreak | i was playing in alpine and changed password ( i thought was my email password) now i cant make my system password anymore it keeps telling me that | 06:38 |
| elkbuntu | mind you, i scare people with my passwords | 06:38 |
| bazhang | * Flip2405 has quit ("Kage is a fucking retard im outtie") | 06:38 |
| bazhang | elkbuntu, see above | 06:39 |
| elkbuntu | i see. was cage someone else in the channel? | 06:39 |
| elkbuntu | err, kage | 06:39 |
| bazhang | not that I saw | 06:39 |
| elkbuntu | might have been from another channel | 06:39 |
| elkbuntu | hmm...not likely | 06:41 |
| elkbuntu | you could banforward them here to warn them, but without the bantracker, nobody would be able to check it | 06:42 |
| bazhang | will mention to him next time he is in channel-->catalzye for an hour or two ;] | 06:43 |
| elkbuntu | im glad you have such a good memory | 06:45 |
| bazhang | not too good with the chanzerv.py commands though :( | 06:45 |
| Tm_T | hi kids | 06:45 |
| bazhang | tried to combine op and mute in one command | 06:46 |
| bazhang | hi Tm_T :) | 06:46 |
| DrDerek | just wanting to say, you guys might wanna stop by offtopic. | 07:41 |
| theLichKing | yes? | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: ? | 07:44 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, yes? | 07:44 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: was that you? | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | theLichKing: who sent you here? | 07:45 |
| bazhang | elkbunt-u Hobbsee | 07:45 |
| theLichKing | elkbuntu | 07:45 |
| elkbuntu | what the hell were you doing? | 07:45 |
| elkbuntu | Hobbsee, i sent him here because he was flooding -offtopic | 07:46 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 07:46 |
| theLichKing | offtopic was quite anyway | 07:46 |
| theLichKing | quiet | 07:46 |
| elkbuntu | that's no excuse | 07:46 |
| theLichKing | you need to chill out | 07:46 |
| theLichKing | it wasn't just me drawing with text | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | theLichKing: you need to listen to her, methinks. | 07:48 |
| elkbuntu | theLichKing, you were the one who did it repeatedly | 07:48 |
| elkbuntu | please do not do it again. | 07:48 |
| theLichKing | yeah.. what's the point.. it's pointless to argue with an op.. s/he's always right.. i'm wrong | 07:48 |
| theLichKing | peace out | 07:48 |
| mneptok | the man is always laying the smack down. | 07:51 |
| Hobbsee | if xtreme_great shows up again, can someone read him the riot act? (about asking in single channels only, and actually bothering to read what he gets as an answer) | 08:07 |
| Madpilot | Hobbsee, which channels? | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | Madpilot: i saw him do it in -devel again earlier. | 08:10 |
| mneptok | http://theinternetisterrible.com/wp-content/things/figure.PNG | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | Madpilot: he's done it elsewhere, but unsure where (others commented) | 08:10 |
| Amaranth | mneptok: hahahahahahahahaha | 08:10 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, he was in #ubuntu yesterday and behaved--should I mute him next time and send him here? | 08:10 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: either way, i nuked him from -devel. | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: ubuntu is the correct place to ask | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: depends if he asks the same questions over and over again | 08:11 |
| bazhang | okay Hobbsee thanks | 08:11 |
| * ompaul looks on mneptok on my Sunday morning, now I am askered | 08:12 | |
| ompaul | so askered I can't spell scared | 08:12 |
| * ompaul wonders :) | 08:12 | |
| ompaul | mneptok, what exactly were you looking for when you found that, on second thoughts I don't want to know ;-) | 08:13 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, he did like twice then when getting somewhat of an answer piped down | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: hmmm. | 08:14 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, of course om-paul was around so no telling :) | 08:14 |
| * ompaul looks on | 08:15 | |
| ompaul | bazhang, how? | 08:16 |
| ompaul | who even? | 08:16 |
| bazhang | oops | 08:16 |
| * ompaul recompiles internal spellchecker | 08:16 | |
| bazhang | xtremely_grating or some such name ompaul | 08:16 |
| * ompaul goes for the scroll back of yesterday to read | 08:16 | |
| bazhang | xtreme_great is the correct spelling iirc | 08:17 |
| ompaul | yeap | 08:18 |
| Hobbsee | ompaul: the i_can't_read_topics_or_they_don't_apply_to_me user. | 08:18 |
| mneptok | ompaul: just my usual staurday might google image search for "male dumpster 'no collar'" | 08:18 |
| ompaul | hahaha | 08:18 |
| mneptok | *saturday night | 08:18 |
| * mneptok turns up the lighting | 08:19 | |
| * ompaul hands mneptok a cup of tea | 08:19 | |
| ompaul | Hobbsee, that kind of a user - yeap | 08:19 |
| mneptok | please no. saturday night, mate. | 08:19 |
| * ompaul hands mneptok another cup of tea with whiskey in it | 08:19 | |
| mneptok | ompaul: had dinner tonight at a nice new Ethiopian place above one of Montreal's best Irish pubs | 08:20 |
| ompaul | that is what they call a surprise | 08:20 |
| mneptok | gotta love north america | 08:20 |
| ompaul | mneptok, you live there ;-) | 08:20 |
| mneptok | please don't make the whole continet take the fall ... | 08:21 |
| ompaul | mneptok, I am stuck in "(this space is intentionally left blank) Dublin" | 08:21 |
| ompaul | started in b and ended in n | 08:21 |
| ompaul | refers to what happens if you cut yourself you are .... | 08:21 |
| mneptok | oh, i fallah | 08:22 |
| * ompaul thinks lets do crosswords with ompaul --- "the picture beside the word anger in the dictionary, clue Ubuntu developer's irc nick" ;-) | 08:23 | |
| Amaranth | angry dpl! | 08:23 |
| mneptok | ok, naptime | 08:23 |
| ompaul | mneptok, nap well | 08:23 |
| ompaul | Amaranth, na they just think they are angry | 08:24 |
| Amaranth | no, _the_ angry dpl | 08:24 |
| * ompaul sets ian on Amaranth | 08:25 | |
| ompaul | and not the first one | 08:26 |
| ompaul | he protect me from you ;-( | 08:26 |
| ompaul | ahh | 08:26 |
| ompaul | :-) | 08:26 |
| Amaranth | ian is cool | 08:26 |
| Amaranth | i met him when he was supposed to be our firefox maintainer | 08:26 |
| ompaul | after a side discussion it was discovered we both were talking about the same people | 08:30 |
| ompaul | strange :) | 08:30 |
| Myrtti | elkbuntu: without the bantracker ;-) | 09:44 |
| Myrtti | ? | 09:44 |
| * jussi01 wakes up | 09:46 | |
| ompaul | Myrtti, asus_tek is the cause of a the last few bans in -ot | 09:47 |
| ompaul | it was only a matter of time | 09:47 |
| Myrtti | ompaul: jolly good | 09:47 |
| * jussi01 wants to confirm that everyone knows we have a bantracker? | 09:48 | |
| Myrtti | YOU PEEPS WE HAZ A BANTRACKEH | 09:49 |
| jussi01 | hahah | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | !ops ^ | 09:49 |
| ubottu | Factoid ops ^ not found | 09:49 |
| * jrib knows now. Thanks jussi01 | 09:49 | |
| jussi01 | just the normal @btlogin will do it | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | !ops | EVERYONE, WE HAS BANTRACKER | 09:50 |
| ubottu | EVERYONE, WE HAS BANTRACKER: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01! | 09:50 |
| ubottu | Myrtti called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (EVERYONE, WE HAS BANTRACKER) | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | there we go | 09:50 |
| jussi01 | haha | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | :-> | 09:50 |
| tonyyarusso | @login | 09:50 |
| ompaul | hehehe | 09:50 |
| ubottu | tonyyarusso: The operation succeeded. | 09:50 |
| tonyyarusso | @btlogin | 09:50 |
| ompaul | @btlogin | 09:50 |
| jussi01 | dont kill it! | 09:50 |
| tonyyarusso | my god, and it actually LOADS! | 09:50 |
| ompaul | we has lovely | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | jussi01: WE LURVZ YOO | 09:50 |
| * ompaul breaths air not fire | 09:51 | |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: you love stdin also :) | 09:52 |
| Myrtti | /me smooches stdin with pb'n'jam smelly kisses on the cheak | 09:53 |
| elkbuntu | when did we get bantracker? | 10:04 |
| elkbuntu | @btlogin | 10:04 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: bout a week back. | 10:05 |
| ompaul | jussi01, you could have told us :) | 10:05 |
| ompaul | but you kep it a sekret | 10:05 |
| ompaul | awwww | 10:05 |
| jussi01 | ompaul: I did... you just didnt listen... | 10:06 |
| jussi01 | :) | 10:06 |
| ompaul | doh! | 10:07 |
| elkbuntu | jussi01, some of us have been too busy to grep the logs each night for the word | 10:10 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: yeah, I know, but I still have to give ompaul crap ;) | 10:10 |
| elkbuntu | indeed | 10:10 |
| ompaul | jussi01, and for this I thank you :P | 10:11 |
| * ompaul chuckles | 10:11 | |
| jussi01 | :D | 10:11 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, zyx386 said: ubottu, your wiki is empty :) | 11:00 |
| zyx386 | who is unixtime on hardy? | 11:01 |
| elkbuntu | jussi01, btw... !botabuse needs fixing | 11:02 |
| jussi01 | !botabuse | 11:03 |
| ubottu | Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. | 11:03 |
| elkbuntu | unless you've coded self-referencing in | 11:03 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: do @login and change whatever you feel needs changing. | 11:03 |
| jussi01 | :) | 11:03 |
| elkbuntu | meh :Þ | 11:03 |
| elkbuntu | i wasnt sure if you'd dealt with the self-referencing issue on a code level yet? | 11:04 |
| jussi01 | no | 11:05 |
| zyx386 | can every one tell me, why the unixtime format is removed under hardy??? | 11:05 |
| jussi01 | zyx386: please see the channel you are in? | 11:06 |
| zyx386 | the #ubuntu send me to her | 11:07 |
| jussi01 | !botabuse =~ s/ ubotu Bot/ ubottu Bot/ | 11:07 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that jussi01 | 11:07 |
| jussi01 | !botabuse | 11:07 |
| ubottu | Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. | 11:07 |
| jussi01 | elkbuntu: ^ | 11:08 |
| elkbuntu | :) | 11:08 |
| jussi01 | zyx386: when you join #ubuntu it automatically sent you here? | 11:08 |
| jussi01 | ubottu: join #ubuntu-bots | 11:09 |
| ubottu | jussi01: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:09 |
| zyx386 | no, i ask about Unixtimeformat | 11:09 |
| zyx386 | Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail | 11:09 |
| zyx386 | that is mesagge from bot in #ubuntu | 11:10 |
| jussi01 | zyx386: if you ask ubottu about something, then it tells you that, because we edit the factoids here, as you just saw. | 11:10 |
| jussi01 | please return to #ubuntu and ask your question there. | 11:11 |
| zyx386 | also, add unixtime format in boot :) | 11:11 |
| zyx386 | ok | 11:11 |
| zyx386 | thanx | 11:11 |
| jussi01 | !idle | zyx386 | 11:12 |
| ubottu | zyx386: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 11:12 |
| zyx386 | ok thanx | 11:13 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh, so macow is to blame. | 13:16 |
| * Hobbsee just discovered where some of the torrenters came from | 13:16 | |
| elkbuntu | hmm? | 13:17 |
| elkbuntu | what torrenters? | 13:17 |
| * Hobbsee was looking at referrers, for the torrents. | 13:17 | |
| Hobbsee | er, s/for the torrents/ | 13:17 |
| Hobbsee | found that macow directed them at the /tmp/*.torrents | 13:17 |
| elkbuntu | ah | 13:18 |
| PriceChild | btw, unixtime is not removed from hardy, just the gui option to select it is. You can get it back using gconf | 13:30 |
| Seeker` | sneaky | 13:31 |
| elkbuntu | i'd assume that's a generic gnome change then | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | ? | 13:33 |
| PriceChild | pardon? | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | unixtime hardy gconf | 13:34 |
| PriceChild | right click the clock and press preferences, you only get 12/24 in hardy. | 13:34 |
| elkbuntu | right. and is this an ubuntu specific change, or a gnome change? | 13:34 |
| PriceChild | oh sorry | 13:34 |
| PriceChild | no idea | 13:34 |
| PriceChild | i assume gnome | 13:35 |
| Seeker` | can someone run iftop and see if they have a connection to *.canonical.com (in my case, europium.canonical.com) | 13:35 |
| Myrtti | checking | 13:36 |
| PriceChild | nope.. | 13:37 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: leave it running for a min or so and keep and eye on it? | 13:37 |
| PriceChild | yes | 13:37 |
| PriceChild | I think its ntp Seeker` | 13:40 |
| Seeker` | hmm | 13:40 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`: dig ntp.ubuntu.com | 13:41 |
| PriceChild | Seeker`: dig europium.canonical.com | 13:41 |
| PriceChild | Both go to 91.189.94.4 | 13:41 |
| Seeker` | I dont have ntp enabled :/ | 13:41 |
| PriceChild | I guess it just likes to be called by the latter. | 13:41 |
| Seeker` | I have ntp enabled on my ipcop box, but that uses pool.ntp.org | 13:42 |
| elkbuntu | you're probably not going to find the answer from the people here | 13:43 |
| jdavies | Seeker`: what's iftop? | 13:43 |
| Seeker` | jdavies: try running it and see :) | 13:44 |
| Seeker` | It shows current connections | 13:44 |
| jdavies | Seeker`: command not found | 13:44 |
| jdavies | Seeker`: Ah, I use: "lsof +M -i" for that | 13:45 |
| Seeker` | hmm, its my mythtvbox that is connecting to that canonical.com address | 13:48 |
| jdavies | Seeker`: do that command and see what's doing it^ | 13:50 |
| Seeker` | found it - my mythtv computer was set to use the wrong ntp server :/ | 13:51 |
| Seeker` | if anyone hasn't discovered it - "terminator" is a great idea | 13:52 |
| * PriceChild eyes Nick Ali's 3rd link on planet | 13:54 | |
| elkbuntu | in a good way? | 13:55 |
| * elkbuntu suspects probably not | 13:56 | |
| elkbuntu | rofl | 13:56 |
| PriceChild | I'm sure your jaw will drop | 13:56 |
| PriceChild | its even better if you read the context | 13:57 |
| elkbuntu | i read the thread earlier | 13:57 |
| elkbuntu | just about wet myself laughing at arnie's comments about Matthew. | 13:58 |
| PriceChild | !tmi | elkbuntu | 13:58 |
| ubottu | elkbuntu: Um thanks... We *really* did not need to know that... | 13:58 |
| elkbuntu | :Þ | 13:58 |
| PriceChild | your own factoid used against you, the irony! | 13:58 |
| elkbuntu | heh | 13:58 |
| elkbuntu | if i'd been a bad op and used the p word, you probably would not have responded that way, the irony! | 14:00 |
| * Seeker` was only vaguely aware of Automatix | 14:01 | |
| elkbuntu | Seeker`, keep it that way | 14:01 |
| Seeker` | Well, if it is no longer in development, there isn't much point in learning more | 14:01 |
| Seeker` | I find the claims that they made ubuntu as popular as it is dubious at best | 14:02 |
| elkbuntu | rightly so. | 14:02 |
| PriceChild | we did | 14:02 |
| === profoX_ is now known as profoX` | ||
| * PriceChild grins | 14:03 | |
| elkbuntu | we did what? | 14:03 |
| wgrant | Damn that beginner mjg59. | 14:09 |
| wgrant | Such a noob. | 14:09 |
| elkbuntu | indeed | 14:10 |
| elkbuntu | he's loving this whole saga, i'll guarantee it. | 14:10 |
| wgrant | Hah. | 14:10 |
| Seeker` | elkbuntu: why? | 14:12 |
| elkbuntu | Seeker`, because. | 14:13 |
| elkbuntu | (by he, i mean mjg59) | 14:13 |
| wgrant | arnie is so sane. | 14:13 |
| wgrant | I suppose we have to be nice to him. | 14:14 |
| * ompaul hands wgrant the word disorientated to use in some future sentence | 14:17 | |
| elkbuntu | haha | 14:18 |
| wgrant | ompaul: Hm? | 14:18 |
| * jdavies notices mjg59 having activity in -devel | 14:19 | |
| elkbuntu | wgrant, im not entirely convinced anyone of consequence know would hang us for speaking ill of him. | 14:19 |
| PriceChild | jdavies: erm... that's not unusual? | 14:19 |
| wgrant | elkbuntu: Right. | 14:19 |
| jdavies | PriceChild: nop | 14:19 |
| Myrtti | be nice to arnieboy | 14:20 |
| Myrtti | you can bash Automatix and it's design all you want, anyway ;-) | 14:20 |
| Myrtti | judge a man by his actions ;-) | 14:21 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, we are. | 14:21 |
| bazhang | a user was repeatedly using the enter key and warned many times--currently muted; but no response--best to unmute now? | 14:59 |
| bazhang | started with 'I cannot install ubuntu' to where is bash scripting and lots more | 15:02 |
| ompaul | bazhang, if they disrupt then you /cs kb $user | 15:03 |
| ompaul | bazhang, give the mute a minute to work | 15:03 |
| ompaul | then do that | 15:03 |
| bazhang | ompaul, he seemed to be $non_offense equivalent of t-rolling | 15:03 |
| bazhang | okay thanks ompaul he quit finally | 15:04 |
| Amaranth | @btlogin | 16:14 |
| bazhang | that was bad | 16:14 |
| bazhang | svchost a minute ago | 16:15 |
| Pici | yes | 16:16 |
| bazhang | seemed like immediate kb was warranted | 16:16 |
| Amaranth | Should the bantracker include FloodBot? | 16:17 |
| ompaul | Amaranth, if it catchs us it should catch the floodbot | 16:18 |
| Amaranth | It does now, I'm saying maybe it shouldn't | 16:18 |
| Pici | Yes, it should pick up floodbot bans | 16:19 |
| ompaul | Amaranth, if someone says I am banned I want to know why | 16:27 |
| ompaul | I should not have to search the bans and the tracker to work it out | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | but floodbot doesn't really ban | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | it mutes flooders and forwards exploit victims | 16:28 |
| Pici | And bans exploiters | 16:28 |
| stdin | it bans if you /notice the channel | 16:28 |
| ompaul | one place for results (echo data_normalisation > Amaranth) | 16:28 |
| Pici | And mutes are concidered bans. | 16:28 |
| Amaranth | i thought exploiters got k-lined | 16:29 |
| Pici | Plus, if person X keeps getting muted by the floodbot, wouldnt you like to know that? | 16:29 |
| ompaul | they do but that can lag | 16:29 |
| ompaul | auto kline is not always the way | 16:29 |
| ompaul | Amaranth, I guess this one you lose ;-) | 16:30 |
| ompaul | here have a cup of tea | 16:30 |
| Pici | The other day a netsplit caused chanserv to reinstate a floodbot mute, I had to scour my logs for the reason. | 16:31 |
| Pici | s/the other day/before ubottu/ | 16:31 |
| nalioth | anyone see this? http://www.linux.com/feature/134683 | 16:33 |
| Pici | nalioth: Neat | 16:34 |
| Pici | bazhang: Whats dongery? | 16:34 |
| bazhang | Pici, a foulness | 16:34 |
| Pici | :/ | 16:35 |
| Pici | Maybe we should do a 'behind the scenes' of irc for one of the ubuntu newsletters, after we get the bots back up and running. | 16:35 |
| jrib | was a decision ever made on when the next irc council meeting would be? | 16:40 |
| Seeker` | @btlogin | 17:21 |
| ubottu | BluesKaj called the ops in #kubuntu (thyko) | 18:17 |
| jussi01 | Hello thyko | 18:18 |
| jussi01 | thyko: Do you realise why you are here? | 18:18 |
| thyko | you have got to be kidding | 18:19 |
| Myrtti | funny | 18:22 |
| nalioth | we are really banning far far far too much | 18:22 |
| nalioth | on first offenses | 18:23 |
| nalioth | catalyse first | 18:23 |
| nalioth | if the behaviour continues, /remove is available ( with more catalyzation ) | 18:24 |
| Myrtti | nalioth: I agree | 18:24 |
| nalioth | and so forth up the ladder of responses | 18:24 |
| nalioth | i have seen what appears to be "automated" kickbans just because someone uses !ops {NICK} | 18:24 |
| Myrtti | that was my main gripe a while back | 18:25 |
| nalioth | i gripe about this often | 18:25 |
| * Seeker` doesn't like the word catalyze | 18:25 | |
| nalioth | Seeker`: than use whatever synonym you prefer | 18:26 |
| Seeker` | I think something like mediate sounds better | 18:26 |
| nalioth | we are all Ubunteros, and acting like any other efnet thug just isn't cool | 18:26 |
| Myrtti | is it just me, or has the conversational quality of -ot passersby lowerd recently? | 18:31 |
| Seeker` | Myrtti: I dont ever remember it being particularly high quality | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | because I get this feeling that I'm dealing with jerks and dense people with no idea whatsoever about netiquette there | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | Seeker`: even still, quality has gone south like duck in winter | 18:33 |
| Mez | Myrtti, I dont know about that - I've always thuoght it was scraping the bottom of the barrel | 18:55 |
| Myrtti | no, there has really been good moments | 18:56 |
| Myrtti | but I note that I've had to complain to the users more about !language, !offtopic and also (*snifffff* smells funny here...) advise them to behave better | 18:58 |
| Myrtti | I'm getting troll wibes at u | 19:01 |
| Pici | me? | 19:01 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, it is not you | 19:01 |
| Myrtti | Now I remember what smells funny | 19:16 |
| Myrtti | I put the oven on for making a pizza | 19:16 |
| jrib | I've never seen a /remove or /kick work better than just a final warning | 19:38 |
| ompaul | jrib, cut that out :P | 19:43 |
| Mez | jrib, Ive seen it stop people and work well | 19:50 |
| Myrtti | !pong | 19:51 |
| ubottu | pong is an old atari game. It's fun! | 19:51 |
| jrib | Mez: key word is "better" | 19:52 |
| Mez | jrib, it either works or it doesnt. Whats the harm in trying it to start | 19:52 |
| Mez | other than lazyness? | 19:52 |
| jrib | it's an unnecessary display of power | 19:53 |
| nalioth | jrib: which is why we should catalyze first | 19:53 |
| jrib | "hey, I've warned you that the rule in this channel is X. You haven't stopped. If you continue, I will have to ban you from the channel. Please stop now." works better imo | 19:53 |
| Myrtti | I'm starting to think busta5000 in u is trolling | 19:54 |
| ompaul | jrib, really nice way to say that | 20:00 |
| ompaul | "hey, I've informed you that the rule in this channel is X. You haven't stopped. If you continue, I will have to ban you from the channel. Please stop now." | 20:01 |
| ompaul | it takes it down a notch | 20:01 |
| Myrtti | /me makes an alias for that | 20:01 |
| ompaul | jrib, to not labour it you might make it shorter and more generic | 20:02 |
| ompaul | "hey, I've informed you that you were infringing channel rules. You haven't stopped. If you continue, I will have to ban you from the channel. Please stop now." | 20:03 |
| Myrtti | "hey, I've informed you that your previous behaviour isn't excepted and is against the rules. | 20:03 |
| jrib | ompaul: yes, I prefer "informed" as well, thanks | 20:03 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, na don't like excepted accepted might be better | 20:03 |
| Myrtti | informed sounds a bit stuck up | 20:03 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, much less grief than warned | 20:04 |
| Myrtti | "I've told you" | 20:04 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* | 20:04 |
| Myrtti | I wish my brain chemistry was in balance | 20:04 |
| ompaul | Myrtti, you had that up your sleeve hadn't you :) | 20:04 |
| Myrtti | I feel like falling all the time now | 20:04 |
| Myrtti | I should probably just go lie down on floor | 20:05 |
| Myrtti | boot time --> | 20:05 |
| ompaul | most interesting to see the klines - someone wasting a lot of time and staff doing good work | 20:20 |
| ubottu | Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (Kifer) | 21:37 |
| Mez | thats cause the staff always do a good job | 21:38 |
| ompaul | lovely people | 21:39 |
| Myrtti | [23:37] <+FloodBot1> Kifer sent 1.5 messages while muted | 21:41 |
| Myrtti | HUHHHH?!!1 | 21:41 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 21:41 |
| Myrtti | 1.5 ? How can someone send 1.5 messages? | 21:41 |
| Myrtti | *blink* | 21:41 |
| ompaul | half a repeat? | 21:41 |
| jussi01 | umm, im off to bed, but emmet in #u ? | 21:44 |
| jussi01 | [23:44:34] -*- emmet makes sweet love to a goat behind the ostrich barn on a full moon | 21:44 |
| ompaul | ldsdsds, check your ident | 21:46 |
| vorian | (and Real Name) | 21:47 |
| ldsdsds | give 1 bnc pls | 21:47 |
| ldsdsds | ? | 21:47 |
| ompaul | ldsdsds, you are in #ubuntu-ops | 21:48 |
| ldsdsds | INVITERS ---> OUT <--- ompaul ! | 21:48 |
| ubottu | mc44 called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 21:48 |
| ldsdsds | INVITERS ---> OUT <--- ubottu ! | 21:48 |
| ubottu | xtfusion called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 21:48 |
| ldsdsds | INVITERS ---> OUT <--- ubottu ! | 21:48 |
| Amaranth | wtf was that? | 21:49 |
| ompaul | can you read it? | 21:49 |
| ompaul | someone being a smart alec for about 3 seconds | 21:49 |
| Amaranth | I just banned emmet from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic | 21:49 |
| ompaul | k | 21:50 |
| ompaul | I had "an incident" with asus_tek eariler trying to ban evade | 21:50 |
| ompaul | whoever it is it just dropped into #ubuntu-classroom and called my nick I told them to come here | 21:51 |
| ASUS-tek | am here ompaul | 21:51 |
| ompaul | ehh so why call me in -classroom? | 21:52 |
| ASUS-tek | because i am banned in ubuntu-offtopic | 21:53 |
| ASUS-tek | plz unband me | 21:53 |
| ompaul | not for a while yet | 21:53 |
| ompaul | firstly I want you to read this | 21:53 |
| ompaul | !guidelines | 21:53 |
| ubottu | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 21:53 |
| ASUS-tek | ok how manay days i will have to wit for that | 21:53 |
| ASUS-tek | wait * | 21:53 |
| ompaul | and then we will have a chat and the result of that determines the duration | 21:53 |
| ASUS-tek | humm.. let me see | 21:54 |
| ompaul | and then if it goes bad we check it again | 21:54 |
| ompaul | a bit later etc | 21:54 |
| ASUS-tek | ?? | 21:54 |
| ompaul | there is an expected standard of behaviour | 21:54 |
| ompaul | when that line is crossed we are forced to remove people | 21:54 |
| ompaul | when that happens and they ban evade several times | 21:55 |
| ompaul | well it just builds a whole lot of grief | 21:55 |
| ASUS-tek | humm.. ok | 21:55 |
| ASUS-tek | what u wnat me to do now | 21:55 |
| ompaul | read the guidelines | 21:55 |
| ompaul | !codeofconduct | 21:56 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 21:56 |
| ompaul | that too | 21:56 |
| ASUS-tek | u all are very stric i guess | 21:56 |
| ASUS-tek | strict * | 21:56 |
| ompaul | no they are just very civil | 21:56 |
| ASUS-tek | ya sure .. | 21:57 |
| ompaul | they demand we be civil to you, and you also are civil to us | 21:57 |
| ASUS-tek | what is SABDFL | 21:58 |
| ompaul | the project leader | 21:58 |
| ompaul | Mark Shuttleworth | 21:58 |
| ASUS-tek | humm.. ok | 21:58 |
| ASUS-tek | and who are u by the way | 21:58 |
| ompaul | just a community member | 21:59 |
| ASUS-tek | what is this https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1 | 21:59 |
| ompaul | read it | 21:59 |
| ASUS-tek | humm.. | 22:00 |
| ASUS-tek | ok | 22:01 |
| ASUS-tek | plz unband me now | 22:01 |
| ompaul | we kind of take the behaviour of ourselves and others seriously - you can have fun but not be abusive | 22:01 |
| ASUS-tek | okey dear plz do the need full | 22:02 |
| ompaul | so I would like you to come back and get unbanned about this time tomorrow | 22:02 |
| ASUS-tek | am feeling very slepy now its all ready 1.30 AM | 22:02 |
| ASUS-tek | okey thx | 22:02 |
| ompaul | all the better for you to come back tomorrow | 22:03 |
| ASUS-tek | okey by the way what do u do | 22:03 |
| ASUS-tek | like developer promoter | 22:03 |
| ompaul | no | 22:03 |
| ompaul | just another user | 22:04 |
| ASUS-tek | then ?? like here very few of use have internet connection and those who have interent conenction they have limited bandwith or limit connection like there are lots of updatds of ubuntu what do u say about that | 22:05 |
| ompaul | that we can talk about tomorrow | 22:06 |
| ASUS-tek | like compardeed to others distros like can u all ocme up with some thing which is very stable with less updates like what we have for pclinuxos or puppylinux they release the new version only when its very stable | 22:06 |
| ASUS-tek | i wont be in the mode u just here it and then use it or do the needfull when u fee its the best time | 22:06 |
| ompaul | ASUS-tek, you are not here for a conversation | 22:06 |
| ASUS-tek | okey an off bye | 22:07 |
| Seeker` | Who runs the bot that logs to ubuntu-eu.org | 23:22 |
| ompaul | * [locobot_5] (n=UbuntuLo@eshu.ubuntu-eu.org): Logging server. See http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free | 23:23 |
| ompaul | no idea | 23:23 |
| ompaul | does the log page say? | 23:23 |
| Seeker` | not that I can see | 23:24 |
| Mez | admin@ubuntu-eu.org | 23:25 |
| ubottu | In #kubuntu, bascule said: !ntfs =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/ | 23:46 |
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