[00:12] <kiko> MattCampbell, yes, though you can ask to have one registered (see /topic)
[03:46] <nickellery> is anyone aware of when Intrepid translations will be released?
[04:14] <thumper> nickellery: jtv might be able to tell you
[04:14] <thumper> jtv:  <nickellery> is anyone aware of when Intrepid translations will be released?
[04:14] <jtv> nickellery: you mean opened for translation?
[04:15] <jtv> won't be long, but quite busy right now!
[04:21] <nickellery> jtv: yea, that's what I mean, and thanks :)
[04:22] <jtv> nickellery: I promise we're getting better at it.  :-)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> mdke was it you that was/is incharge of mailing lists?
[08:25] <mdke> gnomefreak: not really but maybe I can help, what's the issue?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> mdke: i would like to remove one the team is obsolete for a while no need for it to still be around
[08:26] <mdke> gnomefreak: an Ubuntu mailing list?
[08:26] <gnomefreak> mdke: yes its ubuntu-effects team it is now -desktop team that handles compiz IIRC
[08:27] <mdke> gnomefreak: I don't see that list on lists.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <mdke> ah, you mean ubuntu-desktop-effects
[08:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop-effects is the full name of it 
[08:27] <mdke> gnomefreak: right. you need to send an email to mailman@lists.ubuntu.com to request the removal
[08:27] <gnomefreak> i have link
[08:28] <gnomefreak> mdke: thanks 
[08:28] <mdke> maybe you could suggest what can be done with the archives too, if you feel they can be deleted or not
[08:35] <gnomefreak> mdke: thanks
[08:35] <mdke> gnomefreak: no worries
[08:51] <ignas> hi
[09:02] <ignas> does every launchpad user have his own shared repository or are they project based?
[09:03] <jamesh> ignas: there is no shared repo support on bazaar.launchpad.net at present
[09:03] <ignas> ouch
[09:04] <jamesh> ignas: we are planning on making use of the "stacked branch" feature being developed for Bazaar though
[09:04] <jamesh> which should give similar benefits
[09:04] <ignas> so i should tell other developers that publishing their branches will take 40 minutes then :/
[09:05] <ignas> it's makes explaining how branching for every feature or bug is good :/
[09:05] <jamesh> in fact, it should be better since you can stack off a branch you have only read access to
[09:05] <ignas> i see
[09:05] <jamesh> whereas shared repos would force each developer to pay the 40 minute penalty once
[09:07] <ignas> so what are my options?
[09:07] <ignas> i just can't make them think "bzr is better"
[09:08] <ignas> if they have to wait 40 minutes for their first checkout, and then when they want to change something - they can't commit it direcly, so they make a branch, and after being done with a feature - they have to wait 40 minutes to publish it, so I could merge it to trunk...
[09:08] <Peng> I always push to my own server, where I do have a shared repo, and let Launchpad mirror it.
[09:10] <ignas> i guess they will have to manage their own shared repository as well...
[09:10] <thumper> ignas: stacking is coming soon(ish)
[09:10] <thumper> :-|
[09:10] <ignas> as most of the bzr features
[09:11] <jamesh> ignas: Peng's solution might be best in the short term
[09:13] <ignas> yes, i understand, i mean - as I am the person who is integrating things into the mainline and managing releases - bzr is an improvement, just that for other developers every bit of additional complexity (complexity that was not there with svn) makes them ask the question - why didn't we stay with svn
[09:16] <thumper> ignas: I understand, and I hear ya
[09:17] <thumper> ignas: you can trust me that we are working as fast as possible to make this happen quickly
[09:18] <jamesh> ignas: how do people usually provide changes to you for integration?
[09:19] <jamesh> ignas: if they have used patches in the past, you might want to tell them about "bzr send"
[09:20] <jamesh> for all the changes to Bazaar I've submitted in the last year I've not pushed the branches from my desktop/laptop
[09:20] <jamesh> just sent bundles to the mailing list
[09:21] <tan_> Is there a mailing list manager in launchpad? or something similar?
[09:22] <jamesh> tan_: https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/MailingLists
[09:24] <tan_> jamesh: thanks :) from what I gather, this is for the team communication, or can it be used as a public mailing list for a project?
[09:25]  * tan_ reads and find the answer ;-)
[09:28] <jamesh> tan_: you can create a team to represent the members of the list
[09:28] <jamesh> making it open membership if you want people to be able to join the list without permission
[09:29] <tan_> jamesh: thank you
[10:23] <luisbg> I just created a new branch and when I try to push with  bzr push -v lp:~luisbg/freemix/freemix-python
[10:23] <luisbg> I get
[10:23] <luisbg> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[10:24] <luisbg> any help?
[10:25] <wgrant> luisbg: bzr launchpad-login
[10:26] <wgrant> luisbg: You need to specify a username, or it will try to use http rather than bzr+ssh
[10:26] <luisbg> what is my userid
[10:26] <luisbg> my email?
[10:26] <wgrant> No, your username.
[10:26] <luisbg> luisbg
[10:26] <luisbg> cool
[10:26] <luisbg> it asked me for my ssh pass
[10:27] <wgrant> That's right.
[10:27] <luisbg> pushed!
[10:27] <luisbg> awesome
[10:27] <luisbg> thanks a million
[10:27] <Peng> luisbg: You could set up SSH keys so you don't have to specify a password.
[10:28] <luisbg> Peng, how?
[10:29] <wgrant> Peng: One cannot use Launchpad's bzr functionality without SSH keys.
[10:29] <Peng> wgrant: ...Good point.
[10:29] <Peng> Wait, really?
[10:29] <Peng> I dunno.
[10:29]  * Peng blinks.
[10:29]  * Peng shrugs.
[10:29] <Peng> luisbg: https://launchpad.net/~luisbg/+editsshkeys
[10:30] <luisbg> lol
[10:30] <luisbg> true
[10:31] <luisbg> no ssh no lp
[10:31] <luisbg> I just reinstalled this machine
[10:31] <luisbg> maybe its that
[10:31] <wgrant> Peng: Really.
[10:33] <luisbg> :)
[10:59] <alecwh> I'm the owner of a project @ launchpad, and I currently have a branch registered that automatically imports an external SVN repository into the Bazaar code section. We are no longer using the SVN repository, and we want to remove the SVN import branch from our project. The import branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpns/trunk, and the project: https://code.launchpad.net/phpns/. Who do I talk to about removing this? I'm unable to
[11:02] <Peng> alecwh: You got cut off after "I'm unable t".
[11:03] <alecwh> "﻿Who do I talk to about removing this? I'm unable to."
[11:03] <alecwh> Meaning I don't have sufficient permissions to delete the branch
[11:12] <gmb> alecwh: If you file a question at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad someone from the admin team will attend to it for you.
[11:13] <alecwh> gmb: thanks
[11:13] <gmb> np
[11:19] <Warddr> hello, what do I have to do with the following error:
[11:19] <Warddr> Unable to obtain lock lp--1221028404:///lock
[11:19] <Warddr> held by daan-is-here@bazaar.launchpad.net on host vostok [process #7916]
[11:19] <Warddr> locked 11 hours, 58 minutes ago
[11:19] <Warddr> Will continue to try until 11:22:17
[11:21] <Daniell> hey pretty people, here comes warddr with a cool question!
[11:21] <intellectronica> Warddr: did you already try `bzr break-lock` ?
[11:22] <intellectronica> Daniell: i'll take that as a compliment ;)
[11:22] <Daniell> just see it yourself ;)
[11:23] <Warddr> now I get this error:
[11:23] <Warddr> Unable to obtain lock lp--1221007924:///lock
[11:23] <Warddr> held by warddr@bazaar.launchpad.net on host vostok [process #30786]
[11:23] <Warddr> locked 9 seconds ago
[11:23] <Warddr> Will continue to try until 11:27:26
[11:23] <Daniell> me 2
[11:23] <Peng> Warddr: Repeat break-lock until it sticks.
[11:24] <Peng> Warddr: You are 100% sure that someone isn't actually using the branch right now, right?
[11:24] <Warddr> Daniell, you destroyed everything :P
[11:24] <Daniell> hmm:p
[11:24] <Daniell> me see:p
[11:24]  * gnomefreak gets that when i kill a commit or push
[11:25] <Daniell> why is lp so slow then?
[11:25] <intellectronica> Warddr: which version of bzr are you using, b.t.w?
[11:25] <Warddr> the latest version integrated in ubuntu 8.04
[11:25] <intellectronica> Daniell: what do you mean by 'slow'? is it exceptionally slow for you right now? which pages are slow?
[11:26] <Daniell> code browsing
[11:26] <intellectronica> Daniell: yes, i heard that code browsing is a bit slowy right now, and apparently it's being worked on
[11:26] <Daniell> ok
[11:26] <Warddr> I think now it's ok
[11:27] <intellectronica> Warddr: excellent!
[11:27] <Daniell> thank you pretty people:)
[11:27] <Warddr> I'm only still waiting for an e-mail to confirm my change
[11:28] <Romario> hey kiko
[11:29] <Romario> there is a open answer relating to my ppa, but i'd like to upload new packages, because there are several users waiting for the new release ;-)
[11:30] <Romario> or should i leave everything like it is now for your "investigation"?
[11:34] <Daniell> is there no command like launchpad-logout?
[11:38] <gmb> Daniell: In what context?
[11:44] <laga> launchpad is slow. </rant>
[11:45] <laga> it takes ages for me to go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/206156 and show the duplicates by clicking on that drop-down box on the left.
[11:45] <intellectronica> gmb: i think he meant the bzr launchpad plugin
[11:45] <intellectronica> but in the absence of a logout command he realised that self destruction is the only remaining option
[11:45] <intellectronica> anything, in the name of security!
[11:47] <emgent> are there some problem in LP ? seems very slow.
[11:49] <gmb> intellectronica: :)
[11:49] <laga> emgent: same here.
[11:49] <gmb> emgent: We are experiencing some issues with bazaar.launchpad.net atm.
[11:49] <gmb> Which might be slowing things down generally.
[11:50] <intellectronica> emgent, laga: code browsing is known to be slow right now. anything else?
[11:50] <laga> intellectronica: loading bug reports for me.
[11:50] <emgent> ok thanks :)
[11:50] <intellectronica> laga: url?
[11:50] <laga> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/206156
[11:51] <laga> it doesn't load completely so the drop down boxes on the left don't work properly. eg "duplicates". it's worked now after waiting a few minutes.
[11:51] <intellectronica> laga: works fine for me, loads in 1.084s
[11:52] <intellectronica> laga: can you please try reloading, and see whether the problem is persistent?
[11:52] <\sh> please, it's bankholiday in most parts of europe...don't break things on bankholidays ;)
[11:52] <gmb> intellectronica, laga: It's pretty slow for me too. Looks like it's slowing down when loading the attachment.
[11:52] <gmb> *s
[11:53] <gmb> launchpadlibrarian.net is pretty slow atm, I think.
[11:53] <laga> gmb: yeah, i also see that it's loading from launchpadlibrarian.
[11:53] <intellectronica> yeah, it does look like the librarian is to blame
[11:53] <gmb> Poor old libby...
[11:54] <laga> reloading is fast now, maybe it's cached. or fixed.
[12:36] <Warddr> how long does it take for a mailinglist to be accepted? We realy need one
[12:40] <jamesh> Warddr: it needs an admin to approve it.
[12:41] <Hobbsee> jamesh: who's in charge of hte mailing lists now?
[12:41] <jamesh> Hobbsee: in charge of the code or in charge of administrating things?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> jamesh: the latter
[12:44] <jamesh> I'm not sure.  I'd guess launchpad admins
[12:45] <jamesh> Hobbsee: yep.  The mailing list approval forms require admin access.
[12:45] <jamesh> not sure which ones are doing list approval though
[12:46] <Hobbsee> jamesh: right.  that may be why they aren't getting done, then.
[12:46] <jamesh> or they aren't doing it over the weekend
[12:46] <jamesh> Warddr: how long have you been waiting?
[12:47] <Warddr> jamesh, 2 days
[12:47] <jamesh> Warddr: if it hasn't been processed within 24 hours, I'd try emailing the launchpad-users list
[12:48] <Warddr> i'll do that, jamesh 
[12:55] <Hobbsee> jamesh: do you know if a launchpad admin would be able to remove a package, which has been marked as invalid, from a bug?  i'm sick of reading mail from this bug.
[12:56] <jamesh> you mean remove a task?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> er, yes, probably
[12:56]  * Hobbsee isn't fluent in all the launchpad terminology, at times.
[12:57] <jamesh> it'd probably require DB access to delete it
[12:57] <jamesh> you can't point it at a more appropriate package?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ooh, i wonder.
[12:57]  * Hobbsee wth?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> jamesh: oh, now there's a good idea!  i can clear the task, which puts it as 'Ubuntu', which will make it go to the ubuntu bugs list, which it's probably already on, so will spam no one.
[13:02] <jamesh> solutions that don't need admin intervention are preferred :)
[13:04] <Hobbsee> jamesh: indeed.  i just didn't think that could be done.
[13:04] <Hobbsee> jamesh: er, is there any wya i can check what the contact address for the bug supervisor of ubuntu is?
[13:06] <jamesh> Hobbsee: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu -> click on the link next to "Bug supervisor:"
[13:06] <jamesh> the email address is in the portlet
[13:06] <jamesh> (looks like the only thing still in a portlet for that page)
[13:07] <Hobbsee> jamesh: ah, good, so it is them.
[13:50] <kiko> cprov, ping?
[13:50] <cprov> kiko: pong
[13:52] <kiko> cprov, romario was having an interesting problem yesterday. he copied a package to another PPA, but when downloading it via apt, apt would complain of "mismatched size" (IIRC). 
[13:52] <kiko> cprov, have you heard of this happening before?
[13:52] <kiko> or have a clue why it mihgt?
[13:54] <cprov> kiko: archive indexes conflicting with the files, I guess, depends on whether or not he installed the package locally first.
[13:55] <cprov> kiko: obviously cause by a copy that should not be allowed (or to be precise, rebuilds in the same archive)
[13:56] <cprov> kiko: do you know the PPA url and package names involved, maybe I can still reproduce it.
[13:58] <Hobbsee> cprov: ~gscrot
[13:58] <kiko> cprov, if you can check channel logs for yesterday evening you'll find him chatting with Hobbsee and I
[13:58] <cprov> Hobbsee: I've removed several binaries rebuilds from that PPA yesterday.
[14:01] <cprov> Hobbsee: yep, the is still happen
[14:01] <Hobbsee> cprov: eparse: broken english.
[14:01] <cprov> the *problem* ...
[14:01] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[14:02] <cprov> broken phrase at *any* language ...
[14:02] <Hobbsee> haha
[14:05] <cprov> Hobbsee: well, it was just fixed with the new upload made in hardy.
[14:43] <joh> How does the PPA build system work?
[14:45] <cprov> joh: like the primary build system for ubuntu with some extra features (for instance, installing dependencies from the PPA domain). Could you be more specific ?
[14:45] <joh> cprov: I've uploaded my source package and wonder when binary packages will be built
[14:46] <kiko> heh
[14:49] <cprov> joh: once you've received a 'acceptance' email, it should build ASAP according the build-farm load
[14:49] <cprov> joh: is this your PPA https://edge.launchpad.net/~joh/+archive ?
[14:54] <joh> cprov: Yes
[14:54] <cprov> joh: if it is, something weird is happening, no builds for your sources.
[14:55] <joh> cprov: Exactly...
[14:57] <joh> cprov: So what could be wrong? How do I debug this?
[14:58] <joh> cprov: There are no build records at all under "View build records" either.
[15:00] <cprov> joh: I'm checking, builds were not created in upload time.
[15:00] <joh> cprov: Ok, thanks
[15:00] <cprov> joh: putz ... sorry, you are uploading to intrepid.
[15:01] <joh> cprov: Ah, so only hardy packages will be built?
[15:01] <cprov> joh: yes, intrepid is not supported for PPA yet. Also check https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/173866
[15:02] <cprov> joh: it would have avoided my embarrassment :(
[15:05] <joh> cprov: What embarrassment? :-)
[15:10] <cprov> joh: :)
[15:26] <kiko> cprov, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/32847 is the same problem, I suspect, right?
[15:28] <Warddr> hello, is it possible to send the mails when code is changed to a mailing list?
[15:29] <kiko> Warddr, I'm not sure! barry, can a mailing list be the contact address for a team?
[15:29] <barry> Warddr: yep
[15:30] <cprov> kiko: "build fine in intrepid ..." not really true. Other than that, It seems to be a packaging problem.
[15:30] <barry> Warddr: once your lp mailing list is active, just go to the team's +contactaddress page and you should see an option to set the ml as the contact address
[15:32] <Warddr> barry, ok, I'll do that
[16:28] <kiko> cprov, ah, it was this one: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/32757
[16:30] <cprov> kiko: yes, that's the mentioned issue. Let me answer it.
[16:32] <preetam> hello
[16:32] <preetam> anyone there
[16:32] <Hobbsee> no
[16:32] <kiko> thanks cprov 
[16:34] <preetam> hey i want to become translator for ubuntu can anyone guide me please
[16:36] <preetam> i have already contributed  in few applications 
[16:40] <joh> https://launchpad.net/~joh/+archive <-- why does intrepid still appear as a repos when it contains no packages?
[16:46] <joh> Also, where did my i386 build go? It's not in the list...
[16:46] <joh> (The binary deb that is)
[16:54] <kiko> cprov, note https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/30588 too
[17:14] <lorgan> launchpad
[17:14] <synic> mrevell: ping
[17:14] <mrevell> hey synic
[17:14] <lorgan> launchpad
[17:15] <synic> mrevell: Yeah, I can do the interview.  I just need to find a microphone...
[17:15] <mrevell> synic: Great, thanks. When would be a good time for you? Are you available tomorrow?
[17:16] <synic> mrevell: Yeah, the earlier the better.
[17:16] <mrevell> synic: No problem. What timezone are you in? Mountain?
[17:16] <synic> yeah
[17:17] <mrevell> synic: Give me a time that's good for you and I'm almost certainly able to shift my stuff to suit. The only time I have fixed is 15.00 - 15.20 UTC
[17:18] <synic> Let me get back to you.  I'll send you an email.  I have to borrow one of my coworkers mics
[18:00] <mrevell> synic: Okay, cool.
[20:00] <Daniell> who works on lp, I suggest a more in lp integrated code browsing
[20:01] <thumper> Daniell: this is an issue we are working on
[20:02] <Daniell> ok cool
[22:22] <ffm> Hey, is it possible to mark myself as the bug contact for a package in ubuntu?
[22:24] <kiko> ffm, yeah -- just subscribe to it.
[22:28] <ffm> kiko: Merci.
[23:25] <ogt> hey, problem with the face browser
[23:25] <ogt> not showing usernames anymore
[23:26] <ogt> anybody on this case?