[00:43] <fta> bug 184276
[03:10] <gnomefreak> good night everyone/anyone here ;)
[07:23] <gnomefreak> asac: fyi i asked for a merge of my ff2 branch that has the desktop file fix to you branch since i couldnt find mozillateam branch
[08:20] <gnomefreak> why cant they make this easier :(
[11:02] <gnomefreak> asac: you here yet?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> doesnt look like im getting the autosync from LP on firegpg
[14:02] <fta> http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2008/05/12/bzr-commit-author/
[14:17] <jtv> asac: hi, Herb tells me he's working on that XPI import fix right now.
[15:29] <fta> [reed], cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag FIREFOX_3_0RC1_BUILD1  ???
[15:29] <fta> gnomefre1k, i've patched pastebinit to support both paste.ubuntu.com and pastebin.mozilla.org
[15:30] <[reed]> hmm
[15:31] <fta> [reed], any idea ?
[15:31] <fta> [reed], same with cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag FIREFOX_3_0RC1_RELEASE
[15:32] <[reed]> case sensitive
[15:32] <[reed]> :(
[15:32] <fta> ?
[15:32] <[reed]> FIREFOX_3_0rc1_BUILD1
[15:32] <[reed]> try that
[15:32] <fta> yep
[15:33] <fta> [reed], http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox_3.0rc1:BuildNotes  needs to be fixed then
[15:33] <[reed]> it's a wiki, fix it yourself :p
[15:34] <fta> i need a login
[15:34] <[reed]> register! :P
[15:35] <[reed]> lol @ mozilla bug 417243
[15:35] <[reed]> if you want a good laugh, read it :)
[16:55] <asac> [reed]: http://www.ekuriren.se/hermes/article/EK-20050124-06_1.html ... if you hold the mouse on the dotted line below Eskilstuna-Kuriren  ... it will go made and flicker. is that a known/fixed bug?
[16:55] <asac> Bug 229501
[16:56] <[reed]> fixed a long time ago
[16:56] <[reed]> don't know the bug # off the top of my head
[16:56] <[reed]> it was fixed just after b5 was tagged
[16:56] <[reed]> if that helps
[16:57] <asac> ok thanks
[18:01] <asac> jtv: ok cool ... on applying the cherry-pick? or even importing translations?
[18:03] <jtv> asac: the cherry-pick, but a crisis just developed on that front.  :-(
[19:06] <armin76> fta: asac: you guys have the update function on xul 1.9?
[19:06] <fta> ?
[19:06] <fta> update function ?
[19:07] <armin76> http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/update/
[19:09] <fta> no, we don't
[19:10] <fta> we also disable the "check for updates" as we want our users to use debs, not binaries from upstream
[19:13] <fta> armin76, do you see logs like those when you run ff3 in a term ? ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
[19:13] <fta> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
[19:14] <fta> I can't find what is printing that
[19:18] <Jazzva> asac: ping
[19:19] <armin76> fta: nope, sorry
[20:03] <fta> The error was 'BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection)'.
[20:03] <fta>   (Details: serial 85097207 error_code 14 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
[20:05] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11716/
[20:41] <gnomefreak> fta: what is the arg for pastebinit to go to one or other?
[20:42] <gnomefreak> sorry my sleep patern is all screwed up
[20:42] <gnomefreak> pattern
[20:43] <fta> you can do a ~/.pastebinit.xml
[20:43] <gnomefreak> asac: are you an op in #ubuntu-moble by chance?
[20:44] <gnomefreak> so instead of pastebinit file i run ~/.pastebinit.xml file
[20:44] <fta> here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11726/
[20:44] <fta> no
[20:46] <fta> it's changing the default, just run pastebinit as usual
[20:47] <Jazzva> asac: there? :)
[20:47] <gnomefreak> what version is the newest?
[20:47] <fta> my ppa
[20:47] <gnomefreak> 0.9-0ubuntu1+fta1~hardy?
[20:47] <fta> i've posted my patch upstream
[20:47] <fta> yes
[20:47] <fta> next intrepid version will have it
[20:55] <gnomefreak> ok
[20:56] <asac> Jazzva: yes
[20:56] <gnomefreak> looking at your paste
[20:56] <gnomefreak> asac: btw nevermind your not there are only 3
[20:56] <gnomefreak> oh so i make ~/.pastebinit.xml and that what it uses when i run pastebinit file
[20:57] <Jazzva> asac: norsetto was thinking of moving gecko-mediaplayer plugin to mozilla-extensions-dev, but he is not sure if that's ok because gecko-mediaplayer goes hand in hand with gnome-mplayer.
[20:58] <Jazzva> asac: Anyway, I'll be going off in few minutes for an hour. Gotta prepare for the lab practice tomorrow. And I need some simulator which runs only in windows, and wine is unable to start it... Sometimes I don't like my school.
[20:59] <Jazzva> I think norsetto is in #ubuntu-motu now, you can discuss that issue with him :). I'll be back later...
[20:59] <asac> Jazzva: ok. i am not sure about extensions-dev
[20:59] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt
[20:59] <asac> that is a team about extensions, while plugins are somewhat different
[21:00] <Jazzva> asac: That's what was going through my mind today... It's just not xpi :).
[21:00] <asac> if someone wants to maintain it in the yard of extensions-dev team i am fine with it
[21:00] <asac> but imo plugins should be maintained elsewhere
[21:00] <asac> mozillateam or even MOTU
[21:01] <gnomefreak> fta: in the version above mozilla hasnt been added
[21:01] <gnomefreak> Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (http://pastebin.mozilla.org/)
[21:02] <fta> remove the trailling /
[21:02] <Jazzva> asac: Ok...
[21:02] <gnomefreak> i didnt add it
[21:02] <gnomefreak> maybe i did :(
[21:03] <gnomefreak> fta: ah thanks i didnt see the /
[21:04] <fta> Sorry, an unexpected condition has occurred which is preventing Google Reader from fulfilling the request.
[21:04] <fta> hmm
[21:07] <gnomefreak> fta: thats not that abnormal try it with ff2
[21:08] <fta> 1st time i see that
[21:08] <fta> and it's with prism
[21:08] <fta> but it's back
[21:10]  * gnomefreak cant seem to get a working chroot for any version
[21:10] <fta> no problem here
[21:14] <gnomefreak> i kept getting weird dpkg errors when i would upgrade or install packages
[21:14] <gnomefreak> something about apt-utils isnt installed <but it is>
[21:15] <gnomefreak> its a debconf error
[21:25] <gnomefreak> anyone else having issues with intrepid main binary 386 repos?
[21:26] <gnomefreak> eh maybe its de mirror
[22:05] <gnomefreak> whats a good easy to use texted based email?
[22:09] <asac> gnomefreak: mutt
[22:12] <gnomefreak> i cant find a worth a shit guide for mutt
[22:13] <gnomefreak> they give me commands and keys but no set up instructions
[22:16] <asac> what do you want?
[22:16] <asac> what kind of mail access?
[22:16] <asac> imap?
[22:17] <gnomefreak> asac: how to set up `/.muttrc to use emails ect... or is it in the ~/.muttrc dir?
[22:18] <gnomefreak> can anyone reproduce bug 197781  i have a feeling its a local issue memory or going too damn fast
[22:18] <fta> gnomefreak, zless /usr/share/doc/mutt/examples/sample.muttrc.gz
[22:18] <fta> and zless /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz
[22:18] <gnomefreak> thanks :)
[22:18] <gnomefreak> i was wondering how to open them
[22:21] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks for comment on bug 228988 he is gonna be pissed
[22:22] <Leftmost> asac, I think I fixed the java-package problem I was having, though it seems like a little bit of a hack. Should I up a patch to LP?
[22:34] <asac> Leftmost: paste it first, i can give it a quick pre-review ;)
[22:34] <asac> use paste.ubuntu.com for instance
[22:34] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah, leave this bug to me. i have to deal with that mess ;)
[22:34] <gnomefreak> good :)
[22:35] <asac> point is i can hardy understand what he wants ;)
[22:35] <Leftmost> asac, alright. Can do.
[22:35] <asac> gnomefreak: .muttrc
[22:35] <asac> in your home
[22:35] <asac> there are zillions of example configs available
[22:36] <asac> imap for instance :)
[22:37] <asac> Leftmost: awesome
[22:39] <Leftmost> May take a bit. Sorry for the drawn-out time. Doing this at work, though, so it's whenever I have a chance to screw with it.
[22:40] <gnomefreak> hacked patch for a hack language cant be too bad :)
[22:41] <asac> Leftmost: thats fine
[22:41] <gnomefreak> asac: yeah but gzip never really opened them to read so zless was the new part
[22:41] <asac> gnomefreak: what are you talking about?
[22:41] <asac> i lack some context ;)
[22:42] <gnomefreak> asac: the mutt dics are .gz but without unpacking i didnt know zless would let you read them
[22:45] <fta> gnomefreak, zless file = gzip -dc file.gz | less
[22:45] <gnomefreak> lol /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz has everything but email address
[22:45] <gnomefreak> oh
[22:45] <gnomefreak> so same thing only nicer
[22:47] <fta> my_hdr From: foo bar <foo.bar@zozo.com>
[22:47] <fta> that's how you specify a From
[22:48] <gnomefreak> fta: i mean a to. like if i wanted to set up my personal email for mutt
[22:48] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak at ubuntu dot com for example
[22:49] <gnomefreak> its not anywhere in those files
[22:49] <fta> eh?
[22:49] <gnomefreak> for mutt to grab mail from my email it needs to know my email
[22:49] <fta> you want to put your email in the To: ?
[22:50] <fta> "grab mail from my email" ? pop ? imap ? spool ?
[22:50] <gnomefreak> fta: mutt needs to know where to get the mail from
[22:50] <gnomefreak> yes
[22:51] <fta> file:///usr/share/doc/mutt/html/optionalfeatures.html#pop
[22:51] <gnomefreak> mutt would need my config for it as in login name pop.bleh.com
[22:53] <gnomefreak> ah pop[s]://[username[:password]@]server[:port]/[path]
[22:54] <fta> http://mutt.blackfish.org.uk/
[22:56] <fta> i use local spool, because i run sendmail, procmail, greylist, spamassassin, clamav, and much more ;)
[23:01] <Jazzva> asac: would you like me to tell to norsetto about gecko-mediaplayer and mozilla-extensions-dev, or will you do it? :)
[23:04] <asac> Jazzva: feel free to tell him ;)
[23:05] <asac> mozillateam would be a peer if we decide to put this into MOTU realm
[23:05] <Jazzva> I think this one is already in MOTU-Media
[23:05] <asac> MOTU media? is that an active team? is that a developer team at all?
[23:06] <Jazzva> Huh... and here I thought it's active :).
[23:06] <Jazzva> There were some activities before in MOTU-P2P and similar, so I thought this one is active too
[23:07] <asac> well ... motu P2P is dead i guess
[23:07] <asac> well ... at least -torrent channel is empty ;)
[23:07] <Jazzva> oh...
[23:08] <Jazzva> asac: Anyway... Isn't gecko-mediaplayer already in MOTU realm? It's in the universe :)
[23:09] <asac> yeah
[23:09] <asac> thats why we don't need to put it into mozilla-extensions-dev
[23:09] <asac> ;)
[23:10] <asac> i think if he refers to "put it in mozilla-extensions-dev" ... he refers where the bzr branch will be hosted
[23:17] <fta> if you put the branch into mozilla-extensions-dev, it would be difficult for the mass update to differentiate that from regular ext
[23:18] <fta> well, not difficult, just more work
[23:18] <asac> right
[23:18] <Jazzva> Another security risk is that any member can play with it
[23:18] <asac> anyway, i think we need some kind of meta branch in mozillateam realm to maintain which packages are auto updated and where
[23:18] <asac> fta: ^^ ?
[23:19] <fta> yes, that was my point when i said the wiki as a source was not goof
[23:19] <fta> good
[23:19] <asac> Jazzva: well ... imo the most security risks come from upstream sources
[23:20] <asac> the packaging is quite well reviewable :)
[23:20] <gnomefreak> firegpg wont be autosync if i get time ill finish it up tomorrow and push to bzr and ppa
[23:21] <Jazzva> I meant on someone deleting branches, or similar... Then again, that can happen to any branch right now :).
[23:22] <Jazzva> (though, there is none for now, iirc)
[23:22] <asac> so how do i tell bug reporters that their language is not good enough to process their bugs?
[23:22] <asac> in a polite, but forceful fashion at best :)
[23:23] <Jazzva> I'm sorry, but could you explain what exactly happened?
[23:23] <asac> like bug 229472
[23:23] <Jazzva> Or, could you rephrase it
[23:24] <asac> Jazzva: well ... that will trigger more incomprehensible content
[23:24] <asac> i want to tell him ... go away, invalid ;)
[23:24] <Jazzva> Bad :)...
[23:24] <Jazzva> But, we all know the feeling...
[23:25] <Jazzva> Hmm... Maybe to point him/her to some "How to report a bug?" wiki page...
[23:27] <asac> i think i just say "invalid"
[23:27] <Jazzva> I tried to be polite ;)...
[23:27] <asac> and ignore follow up rants ;)
[23:27] <Jazzva> damn...
[23:28] <Jazzva> I left a comment already :)
[23:28] <Jazzva> Oh, well... if he leaves a meaningful comment, we can reopen it
[23:29] <asac> darn ... launchpad-bug-python is again broken :( ... xpath expression error
[23:53] <[reed]> campd: ping
[23:53] <campd> yo
[23:53] <[reed]> need you to look at a bug
[23:53] <campd> shoot
[23:53] <[reed]> Bug 229745
[23:53] <campd> but I'm not sure how useful I'll be :)
[23:53] <[reed]> see that
[23:55] <campd> ok so yeah
[23:55] <campd> basically, we still have to sync out the db file
[23:58] <campd> I was on an admittedly halfway decent machine when I tested
[23:58] <campd> (macbook pro first gen)
[23:58] <campd> (which has since died a sad death)
[23:58] <campd> but I didn't notice anything performance-degrading on commit;
[23:59] <campd> BUT
[23:59] <campd> a) could be a better machine than normal
[23:59] <campd> b) I had tracker disabled.
[23:59] <campd> is tracker smart enough to avoid dotfiles?