| livingdaylight | so, when i attach an external usb hard drive and play either audio or video xubuntu crashes | 00:26 |
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| livingdaylight | also my clock is completely wrong despite having set it to the right time zone | 00:27 |
| livingdaylight | anyone know anything about either problem | 00:30 |
| portokaosol | does anyone know how can I see what hardware drivers I am using, or how can I access some sort of a devices manager in Xubuntu? | 00:50 |
| bill | portokaosol: what is the issue you're having - there isn't anything like that in xubuntu | 01:01 |
| portokaosol | I am trying to see what drivers are assigned to my graphics card | 01:02 |
| portokaosol | since I think that there's no drivers for it | 01:03 |
| bill | portokaosol: what is the graphics card? | 01:04 |
| portokaosol | ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 IGP | 01:05 |
| bill | !ati | portokaosol | 01:05 |
| ubottu | portokaosol: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:05 |
| portokaosol | so basically, Restricted Driver Manager? | 01:07 |
| bill | portokaosol: yep | 01:07 |
| portokaosol | I've already tried it | 01:08 |
| portokaosol | nothing | 01:08 |
| portokaosol | I am thinking about trying a newer driver, a hope taht's it's backwards compatible | 01:08 |
| portokaosol | hey bill, I have another question for you | 01:12 |
| portokaosol | I managed to install another keyboard layout, but how do I rotate the languages? | 01:12 |
| bill | portokaosol: look at this page about your card - and sorry but I never change keyboard layouts so I don't know about that | 01:15 |
| bill | http://www.rage3d.com/Board/showthread.php?t=33905792 | 01:15 |
| portokaosol | ok thx | 01:17 |
| portokaosol | bill, my renderiing is: NO | 01:19 |
| portokaosol | I'm gonna try to enable it | 01:20 |
| bill | portokaosol: I'll be right back | 01:24 |
| portokaosol | so bill | 01:39 |
| bill | portokaosol: does lsmod | grep radeon show anything | 01:40 |
| portokaosol | is that LSMOD | 01:41 |
| portokaosol | no, it won't return anything | 01:41 |
| bill | portokaosol: don't worry it won't - I have the ati rage card here using the r128 driver and it doesn't show | 01:42 |
| portokaosol | ok | 01:42 |
| bill | portokaosol: render = yes yet? | 01:42 |
| portokaosol | no | 01:42 |
| portokaosol | I also did | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | apt-get build-dep libdrm mesa | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` git-core libxmu-dev x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | cd /usr/src | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | cd /usr/src/drm/linux-core | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | make DRM_MODULES="mach64" | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | cp /usr/src/drm/linux-core/*.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/char/drm/ | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | depmod -ae | 01:43 |
| portokaosol | (sorry for the paste, but I doubt that anyone will mind) | 01:43 |
| bill | k | 01:43 |
| bill | portokaosol: I just did - sudo modprobe radeon - then changed the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to r128 and restarted x | 01:45 |
| portokaosol | hold on, let me log in from that machine | 01:46 |
| raket2 | now | 01:47 |
| raket2 | here's what I got from that command | 01:47 |
| raket2 | FATAL: Error inserting radeon (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) | 01:47 |
| === raket2 is now known as portokaosol2 | ||
| portokaosol2 | bill: perhaps you would want to see what dmesg spits out? | 01:50 |
| bill | portokaosol: dmesg | tail should do | 01:50 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800426] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_core_ioremap | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800430] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_ioremap | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800520] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_mmap | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800543] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_mmap | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800669] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800673] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800763] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800768] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800843] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_release | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | [ 533.800847] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_release | 01:51 |
| portokaosol2 | in meantime, I'll write a letter to ati, and see what can I do | 01:52 |
| bill | portokaosol: doesn't look good that - see if ati sends a reply :) | 01:53 |
| portokaosol | I am trying a newer driver | 01:54 |
| portokaosol | (for a newer card) | 01:55 |
| bill | k | 01:55 |
| portokaosol | it would be awesome if it works | 01:55 |
| portokaosol | If there's anyone alive, how can I make 2 xubuntu machines network? | 02:19 |
| japherwocky | you could use the internet | 02:48 |
| japherwocky | or sshd | 02:48 |
| japherwocky | or samba?! | 02:49 |
| === platyhelminth is now known as Bill-Gates | ||
| portokaosol | japherwocky: sorry I didn't see you | 03:14 |
| portokaosol | isn't samba only for windows? | 03:14 |
| portokaosol | btw, brb | 03:14 |
| Bill-Gates | http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=googlevsmssu8.png | 03:31 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| gNewPower | A neighbor of mine is using Windoze XP. He forgot his admin password. I tried re-setting it with a Ubuntu live-CD using the "chntpw" application only to find out that it was not more in the Ubuntu repos. What application in the latest version of Ubuntu can I use to reset this WXP password? | 04:00 |
| CHR | use BackTrack Live CD | 04:18 |
| CHR | hah, seriously though, I don't know | 04:18 |
| === mariobro is now known as tawd | ||
| raket | hello everyone! I succesfully managed to create samba shares on both of my Xubuntu machines, now I only need to know how can I access them | 05:02 |
| raket | so could somebody help me, please? | 05:02 |
| aldrick | hello! how do i open a file as root? i need to edit a text document... | 05:40 |
| aldrick | hello! how do i open a file as root? i need to edit a text document... | 05:42 |
| Odd-rationale | !sudo | aldrick | 05:42 |
| ubottu | aldrick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. | 05:42 |
| Odd-rationale | aldrick: try "gksudo mousepad /file" | 05:43 |
| aldrick | thank you ill try it now | 05:44 |
| aldrick | you kick ass dude thanks!!! i thought i was going to have to reinstall xubuntu | 05:47 |
| Odd-rationale | aldrick: lol, it is simple... | 05:48 |
| japherwocky | is there a terminal program that will display more colors? | 06:24 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| Standarsh | hi room | 07:10 |
| * Standarsh looks around for people | 07:11 | |
| uda_ | hey, i know this sounds quite stupid, but where is the volume control in xubuntu 8.04? | 07:11 |
| Standarsh | you uda_ | 07:12 |
| Standarsh | I'm not on my xubuntu system now but I think it is under system | 07:12 |
| Standarsh | What I did was added the volume to the top panel for easy access | 07:13 |
| uda_ | cant find it :/ | 07:14 |
| Standarsh | alright, one sec | 07:18 |
| Standarsh | I'll go to my other computer | 07:18 |
| Standarsh | seeing as I have something I want to fix with it anyway | 07:18 |
| Standarsh | k? | 07:18 |
| uda_ | yeah cheers | 07:19 |
| xStandarshy | waza | 07:23 |
| xStandarshy | hmm | 07:29 |
| xStandarshy | I'm trying to remember how I originally found it | 07:29 |
| xStandarshy | anyway | 07:29 |
| xStandarshy | I'll tell you how I do it now | 07:29 |
| xStandarshy | right click the top bar and select 'add new item' | 07:30 |
| xStandarshy | then go down to volume control | 07:30 |
| aldrick | hello! how can i find out what my current window manager is? i try to manage window settings and i get this pop up " These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)" | 07:32 |
| xStandarshy | if you are using xubuntu, you should be on xfce | 07:33 |
| aldrick | but how come i get that pop up? also none of my windows have borders | 07:33 |
| aldrick | anyone? | 07:34 |
| aldrick | can anyone please throw some ideas as to why this would be happening? | 07:36 |
| xStandarshy | hhmm | 07:42 |
| xStandarshy | what are you tryin gto runÉ | 07:42 |
| xStandarshy | hi room | 08:07 |
| xStandarshy | is there any way to compine bne panelsÉ | 08:07 |
| AimLXJ | Hello I need help, apparantly my video card is not being detected. | 08:50 |
| Agnostic | ;) | 09:09 |
| gnyffel | Is there any reason the release notes for Xubuntu 8.04 seem to list PulseAudio, while my fresh install does in fact not run a PulseAudio server? | 09:11 |
| livingdaylight | AimLXJ: help is not available here | 09:23 |
| holyguyver_ | what terminal cammand can I use to clean out my temp internet files & temp files? | 12:01 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: not sure why you'd want to do it in the terminal, but removing stuff inside /tmp and anyhing in home/.tmp might help. Also depending upon "what internet files" you want to delete, every program might use a diferent location. | 12:04 |
| GryzorX | other than that, clear your browser cache and you should be fine. | 12:04 |
| holyguyver_ | Thank you, yes firefox & konqueror was both telling me that I had no more room for files in tmp | 12:05 |
| holyguyver_ | If you remember I am the one on the 4GB harddrive | 12:06 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX I cannot find the tmp folder in my home, & when I typed in /home/jack/tmp & home/jack/.tmp thunar would not take me anywhere. | 12:09 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: oh yeah, I remember you :) | 12:11 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: try sudo rm /tmp | 12:12 |
| GryzorX | sorry | 12:12 |
| GryzorX | sudo rm /tmp/* | 12:12 |
| GryzorX | what's the size of your swapfile? | 12:12 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX : rm: cannot remove `/tmp': Is a directory & rm: cannot remove `/tmp/': Is a directory | 12:13 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: use the second ->> sudo rm /tmp/* | 12:17 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX : rm: cannot remove `/tmp/gconfd-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/kde-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/keyring-0P1Zja': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/ksocket-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/orbit-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/ssh-NCoeAk5150': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/Tracker-jack.5242': Is a directory | 12:18 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: rm -rf /tmp/* | 12:20 |
| GryzorX | (append sudo) | 12:20 |
| holyguyver_ | it did not write out any response to that request | 12:21 |
| holyguyver_ | jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf /tmp/* (next line)jack@jack-desktop:~$ | 12:21 |
| GryzorX | that means that it did it. | 12:21 |
| GryzorX | issue a df -h | 12:21 |
| GryzorX | to see your remaining space | 12:22 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX Filesystem Size 4.3G Used 4.1G Avail 1.2M Use% 100% Mounted on/dev/sda2 | 12:24 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: you've ran out of disk space | 12:27 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX that is what I said | 12:27 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: i'd suggest that you remove stuff | 12:28 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX There is nothing to remove besides tmp & xubuntu itself | 12:28 |
| GryzorX | packages.. remove packages | 12:28 |
| GryzorX | remove games | 12:28 |
| GryzorX | remove open office if you don't use it | 12:29 |
| GryzorX | remove remove | 12:29 |
| GryzorX | leave only bare bones :) | 12:29 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX The only ones on are the preinstalled ones, there is no games, & I do use openoffice | 12:29 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX something tells me that it did not delete tmp because as I said it gave no output for your last cammand for it. | 12:30 |
| holyguyver_ | & yes I have already tried apt-get autoremove & autoclean | 12:30 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX the only thing I can think of is deleting my pidgin logs might clear up space. | 12:32 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: unix commands tend not to output anything if everything goes ok. | 12:32 |
| GryzorX | particularly the rm command does not say anything unless there is an error (as you've seen before). | 12:33 |
| GryzorX | if you perform ls /tmp | 12:33 |
| GryzorX | you'll see that most stuff is gone. | 12:33 |
| GryzorX | on the other hand, the "preinstalled ones" may be too much for your slow and old hard drive. You might want to use synaptic or a simlar tool to see what you have and remove from there. | 12:34 |
| holyguyver_ | Yap you are right, only 2 things remain | 12:34 |
| GryzorX | xubuntu comes with Abiword, if you don't want it, you might want to take that out too. | 12:34 |
| GryzorX | I mean, a plain Ubuntu install can go up to 2gb of stuff | 12:34 |
| GryzorX | mine, uses 4.3GB and I dont have too much stuff here. | 12:35 |
| GryzorX | also issue a reboot to make sure that the swap and stuff like that gets cleaned. | 12:35 |
| holyguyver_ | So you are suggesting that I find even small apps like using xpdf instead of evince & stuff like that? & yes you are right I do have abiword. | 12:35 |
| GryzorX | yes, find duplicated apps and remove the one you don't use | 12:35 |
| GryzorX | you have limited hardware, you need to adapt to what you have. | 12:35 |
| GryzorX | use either firefox or epiphany... | 12:36 |
| GryzorX | remove everything that you don't use. | 12:36 |
| holyguyver_ | Is it safe to remove something like tomboynotes? | 12:37 |
| GryzorX | it should | 12:37 |
| GryzorX | issue | 12:37 |
| GryzorX | the command and see what is going to remove | 12:38 |
| GryzorX | if you see something you use.. then don.t :) | 12:38 |
| GryzorX | ubuntu comes with games | 12:38 |
| GryzorX | you may want to remove them | 12:38 |
| holyguyver_ | All I can say is that I am happy that in a few days I will be getting that brand new HP with the 320GB harddrive :p | 12:38 |
| GryzorX | :) | 12:39 |
| GryzorX | gratz | 12:39 |
| holyguyver_ | As I said I already removed games a long time ago | 12:39 |
| holyguyver_ | Hey you are in luck, you are the only person who has ever seen the terminal evadance to prive that I am on a 4GB harddrive :p | 12:40 |
| holyguyver_ | prove* | 12:40 |
| GryzorX | Got a screen shot :) | 12:40 |
| holyguyver_ | A screenshot of what? | 12:40 |
| GryzorX | you saying that ;) | 12:40 |
| holyguyver_ | honostly I don't think I will be using Gimp or OO.o in the next 3 days :p | 12:42 |
| holyguyver_ | I mean for the next 3 days, so forth I can delete those until I get the new system | 12:43 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX what do you think? | 12:44 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: definitely. | 12:45 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: remove all non-essential stuff | 12:46 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: and leave only the things you use. | 12:46 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: you can always add them later if you need. | 12:46 |
| holyguyver_ | GryzorX I do use gimp * OO.o but as said I don't think I will need to use them for the next 3 days & after that I will have a much larger hardrive on a brand new machine :) | 12:47 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: then do your cleaning job :) | 12:48 |
| holyguyver_ | remooving OO.o impress calc & math cleared up 27m | 12:50 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: keep going :) | 12:51 |
| GryzorX | holyguyver_: I gotta go. Will be back later. Good luck with that. | 12:52 |
| holyguyver_ | Thank you | 12:53 |
| GryzorX | you're welcome. | 12:53 |
| suriro | Is system beep related to sound card / alsa? | 13:37 |
| suriro | this notebook produces all sorts of sounds but the system beep. I see pcspkr module loaded in lsmod output. | 13:38 |
| suriro | basically, I expect to hear a beep when I echo $'\a' in terminal/console. But no sound... | 13:41 |
| === danielm_ is now known as danielm | ||
| zoredache | !opera | 16:56 |
| ubottu | opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser | 16:56 |
| === saphil_ is now known as saphil | ||
| Don_Miguel | cody-somerville: brief PM please ? | 17:33 |
| Don_Miguel | !paste | 17:34 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) | 17:34 |
| cody-somerville | Don_Miguel, ho ahead | 17:39 |
| cody-somerville | *go | 17:40 |
| === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.org | ||
| === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | ||
| japherwocky | is there a way to move windows onto another desktop? | 19:30 |
| === platyhelminth is now known as Bill-Gates | ||
| Ben_Cs | hello | 19:57 |
| asizemore | hey | 20:05 |
| asizemore | how do I get the mount utility? | 20:05 |
| japherwocky | maybe sudo apt-get install mount | 20:06 |
| japherwocky | that seems like something that comes with the system though | 20:06 |
| asizemore | well, I meant launch some kind of gui thingy | 20:07 |
| asizemore | I haven't had to deal with mounts in forever | 20:07 |
| asizemore | actually, I'll bbl | 20:09 |
| d0xda | hello | 20:21 |
| d0xda | there's a problem with the xubuntu 8.04 while installing through windows 2000 professional | 20:22 |
| TheSheep | !bugs | 20:24 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 20:24 |
| d0xda | okay the details is like this before i try to file the report | 20:25 |
| d0xda | when installing, it says that its copying the image to the hard drive | 20:25 |
| d0xda | when it finishes it says that make sure no other programs are using the drive (cd-rom) | 20:26 |
| d0xda | however, there are very few programs running which are not related to the drive except wubi.exe | 20:26 |
| japherwocky | so you're saying that all the programs are using the drive?! | 20:27 |
| d0xda | no | 20:27 |
| d0xda | i meant none | 20:27 |
| d0xda | EXCEPT wubi.exe of course | 20:27 |
| TheSheep | it somehow misdetects that | 20:27 |
| d0xda | in what way? | 20:27 |
| TheSheep | do you have an explorer window with the drive open perchance? | 20:27 |
| d0xda | nope | 20:27 |
| TheSheep | that would also qualify as an application using the drive | 20:27 |
| d0xda | no antivirus programs also | 20:27 |
| d0xda | yes | 20:28 |
| d0xda | but its closed also | 20:28 |
| d0xda | tried more than 3 times and i'm out of luck | 20:28 |
| d0xda | surprisingly i installed ubuntu it worked | 20:28 |
| d0xda | there's no such error | 20:28 |
| slow-motion | hi | 20:28 |
| d0xda | only xubuntu's giving this error | 20:28 |
| d0xda | :| | 20:28 |
| d0xda | hi | 20:28 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: you could install the console-only version of ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop on it, it would be the same as installing from xubuntu cd | 20:29 |
| d0xda | has anyone of you encountered this error before? | 20:29 |
| TheSheep | no windows here, so I never used wubi | 20:30 |
| d0xda | er.... it would be harder unfortunately. i would much prefer to use wubi because of its simplicity | 20:30 |
| d0xda | with wubi, i am able to access those two OS'es easily | 20:31 |
| TheSheep | I meant installing the ubuntu command line with wubi, and then adding xubuntu to it | 20:31 |
| TheSheep | you can also install xubuntu to an ubuntu install | 20:31 |
| d0xda | okay | 20:32 |
| d0xda | i got what you mean there | 20:32 |
| d0xda | =( however, even my ubuntu passed that wubi installation | 20:33 |
| d0xda | it can't even boot up | 20:33 |
| d0xda | there's an error | 20:33 |
| d0xda | if i am not mistaken the error code is 15 | 20:33 |
| d0xda | cannot find the file | 20:33 |
| d0xda | i couldn't even boot up ubuntu successfully | 20:34 |
| d0xda | =( | 20:34 |
| d0xda | it haven't even pass the GUI | 20:34 |
| TheSheep | ah, I know this one | 20:36 |
| TheSheep | grub error 15 | 20:36 |
| d0xda | yes | 20:36 |
| d0xda | error 15 | 20:36 |
| TheSheep | it means you have a large disk in a fairly old computer, and that computer cannot boot if the file from which it boots is not near the beginning of the disk | 20:36 |
| japherwocky | nice | 20:37 |
| d0xda | okay and how to solve this? | 20:37 |
| TheSheep | you usually work around it by making a small partition for the /boot directory near the beginning of the disk | 20:37 |
| d0xda | basically the partition that i installed this ubuntu is only approximately 10GB | 20:37 |
| d0xda | TheSheep: er...... can elaborate on your previous sentence? | 20:38 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: but it's not the first one on the disk, right? | 20:38 |
| d0xda | yes | 20:38 |
| d0xda | its not the 1st | 20:38 |
| TheSheep | there is a lot of information and workarounds when you google for 'grub error 15' | 20:38 |
| d0xda | why does this happen? doesn't xubuntu supports large hard disks? | 20:39 |
| d0xda | by the fact its system requirements aren't that low to be in consideration with | 20:40 |
| TheSheep | no, wait,scratch what I said, it was grub error 8 | 20:40 |
| japherwocky | aww :( | 20:40 |
| d0xda | :S | 20:40 |
| d0xda | :-/ | 20:40 |
| TheSheep | the problem was that when the booting happens, there is no ubuntu loaded yet, the computer is in control of its BIOS, and older BIOSes didn't support large disks | 20:41 |
| TheSheep | but yours is something else -- for some reason the kernel files seems to be missing, or at least grub can't find them to start your system | 20:41 |
| d0xda | yes | 20:42 |
| d0xda | its that problem | 20:42 |
| d0xda | hold on i verify the error again | 20:42 |
| d0xda | Error 15 --- File not found | 20:43 |
| d0xda | when its saying | 20:43 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: I found this on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497138 | 20:43 |
| d0xda | okay | 20:44 |
| d0xda | i'll try to low format it first | 20:44 |
| TheSheep | nah | 20:45 |
| TheSheep | that was a bad advice, imho | 20:45 |
| d0xda | oh | 20:45 |
| TheSheep | the next one was good though | 20:45 |
| d0xda | okay | 20:45 |
| TheSheep | the one with menu.lst | 20:45 |
| === |hfsdo| is now known as hfsdo | ||
| TheSheep | (type xfce4-terminal instead of 'konsole') | 20:46 |
| d0xda | okay i'll try the last solution | 20:46 |
| TheSheep | and it's /usr/share, not /usr/sare | 20:46 |
| d0xda | okay so should i go to the terminal now? from grub | 20:47 |
| TheSheep | no, you need to boot a livecd | 20:47 |
| TheSheep | then you can access the disk on which your ubuntu is installed and put the menu.lst into /boot/grub/menu.lst | 20:48 |
| d0xda | ok i've booted from the live-cd | 20:49 |
| d0xda | should i start ubuntu from the cd? | 20:49 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: yes | 20:50 |
| d0xda | ok | 20:51 |
| d0xda | ok now i open the terminal | 20:54 |
| d0xda | then | 20:54 |
| d0xda | i type xfce-4-terminal? | 20:55 |
| d0xda | *xfce4-terminal | 20:55 |
| TheSheep | no | 20:56 |
| TheSheep | that just opens the terminal :) | 20:56 |
| d0xda | oh.... | 20:57 |
| TheSheep | do you see your disk with xubuntu installed in the file manager? | 20:57 |
| d0xda | yes | 20:57 |
| d0xda | i see my ubuntu installation folder | 20:58 |
| d0xda | in the partition (drive) that i've installed | 20:58 |
| d0xda | but i don't see a "boot" folder in there | 20:58 |
| TheSheep | ok, there should be a boot directory there | 20:58 |
| TheSheep | and a grub directory in it | 20:58 |
| d0xda | in the ubuntu folder? | 20:59 |
| d0xda | the boot directory and grub directory should be in where? | 20:59 |
| TheSheep | no,on that partition | 20:59 |
| d0xda | the root partition? | 20:59 |
| d0xda | of that drive? | 20:59 |
| TheSheep | yes | 20:59 |
| TheSheep | yes | 20:59 |
| d0xda | nope i can't see it | 21:00 |
| TheSheep | the one where you installed xubuntu | 21:00 |
| TheSheep | not the cd drive | 21:00 |
| d0xda | yes | 21:00 |
| d0xda | not the cd drive | 21:00 |
| d0xda | its the hard disk partition | 21:00 |
| TheSheep | you have directories like bin, lib, usr, var in it, right? | 21:01 |
| d0xda | nope | 21:03 |
| d0xda | i only see 3 files/folders in that partition | 21:03 |
| d0xda | ubuntu - folder | 21:03 |
| d0xda | wubildr - file | 21:03 |
| d0xda | wubildr.mbr - file | 21:03 |
| d0xda | that's all | 21:03 |
| d0xda | those directories you mentioned are all in the File System only | 21:04 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: ah, so it's all inside that file | 21:08 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: sorrym I don't know how to get into it | 21:08 |
| d0xda | never mind | 21:09 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685356 | 21:10 |
| d0xda | oh | 21:10 |
| d0xda | er | 21:13 |
| d0xda | actually i am not very familiar with linux | 21:13 |
| d0xda | anyway i've tried this way | 21:13 |
| d0xda | by entering sudo cp /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst /boot/grub | 21:14 |
| TheSheep | no, it won't work if you installed with wubi | 21:14 |
| TheSheep | that was for a regular install | 21:15 |
| d0xda | oh i see | 21:15 |
| d0xda | did u look at the last post in the forum you showed me? | 21:15 |
| TheSheep | this latter forum post is for wubu though | 21:15 |
| TheSheep | yes | 21:15 |
| d0xda | wubu? | 21:15 |
| TheSheep | they write that it might be coused by old config file for wubi | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | wubi | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 21:16 |
| d0xda | no problem | 21:16 |
| d0xda | er but my case is a clean install | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | I suppose xubuntu has the older version :/ | 21:16 |
| d0xda | would it be the same problem? | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | it could be | 21:16 |
| TheSheep | you could trying searching the forums some more, but that's definitely a bug to be reported | 21:17 |
| d0xda | should i try this ATM? | 21:17 |
| d0xda | sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst | 21:17 |
| TheSheep | the developers might contact you with a workaround after you report the bug too | 21:17 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: you don;'t have access to the /boot directory, because it's inside one of these wubi files | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | d0xda: packed | 21:18 |
| d0xda | okay | 21:18 |
| d0xda | got that | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | you would need to actually have this system runningto get inside it | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | or maybe there are some tools to access it from outaside | 21:18 |
| d0xda | to get inside what? | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | outside | 21:18 |
| TheSheep | the files that actually contain your installation | 21:19 |
| d0xda | oh | 21:19 |
| TheSheep | they are like a cd image | 21:19 |
| d0xda | okay | 21:19 |
| d0xda | when these bugs are fixed, will they come out another revised version? | 21:19 |
| d0xda | like 8.05 or something? | 21:19 |
| TheSheep | no, critical bugs will be fixed in 8.04 directly (and internet updates), non-critical ones will wait for 8.10 | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | (the version number is the release date) | 21:21 |
| d0xda | oh okay | 21:21 |
| TheSheep | 8.05 is may 2008 | 21:21 |
| d0xda | you mean there is really a 8.05 version coming out? | 21:22 |
| TheSheep | no | 21:22 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 21:22 |
| TheSheep | 8.04 is April 2008 | 21:23 |
| d0xda | oh | 21:23 |
| TheSheep | that's what I meant :) | 21:23 |
| TheSheep | there is a release every 6 months | 21:23 |
| d0xda | okay | 21:23 |
| d0xda | can you give me the link to report bugs to the technical support so that they can help me as you said before? =) | 21:24 |
| TheSheep | !bugs | 21:51 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 21:51 |
| TheSheep | argh | 21:51 |
| TheSheep | he left | 21:51 |
| slow-motion | n8 | 22:01 |
| gotisch | Hey i have a problem with hipo the ipod manager when i start it it keeps crashing with the error message: unable to open the session message bus. : Argument can not be null see paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11740/ any ideas? | 22:51 |
| PsynoKhi0 | hey | 23:39 |
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