[00:26] so, when i attach an external usb hard drive and play either audio or video xubuntu crashes [00:27] also my clock is completely wrong despite having set it to the right time zone [00:30] anyone know anything about either problem [00:50] does anyone know how can I see what hardware drivers I am using, or how can I access some sort of a devices manager in Xubuntu? [01:01] portokaosol: what is the issue you're having - there isn't anything like that in xubuntu [01:02] I am trying to see what drivers are assigned to my graphics card [01:03] since I think that there's no drivers for it [01:04] portokaosol: what is the graphics card? [01:05] ATI Mobility Radeon 7000 IGP [01:05] !ati | portokaosol [01:05] portokaosol: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:07] so basically, Restricted Driver Manager? [01:07] portokaosol: yep [01:08] I've already tried it [01:08] nothing [01:08] I am thinking about trying a newer driver, a hope taht's it's backwards compatible [01:12] hey bill, I have another question for you [01:12] I managed to install another keyboard layout, but how do I rotate the languages? [01:15] portokaosol: look at this page about your card - and sorry but I never change keyboard layouts so I don't know about that [01:15] http://www.rage3d.com/Board/showthread.php?t=33905792 [01:17] ok thx [01:19] bill, my renderiing is: NO [01:20] I'm gonna try to enable it [01:24] portokaosol: I'll be right back [01:39] so bill [01:40] portokaosol: does lsmod | grep radeon show anything [01:41] is that LSMOD [01:41] no, it won't return anything [01:42] portokaosol: don't worry it won't - I have the ati rage card here using the r128 driver and it doesn't show [01:42] ok [01:42] portokaosol: render = yes yet? [01:42] no [01:43] I also did [01:43] apt-get build-dep libdrm mesa [01:43] apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` git-core libxmu-dev x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev [01:43] cd /usr/src [01:43] git clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm [01:43] cd /usr/src/drm/linux-core [01:43] make DRM_MODULES="mach64" [01:43] cp /usr/src/drm/linux-core/*.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/char/drm/ [01:43] depmod -ae [01:43] (sorry for the paste, but I doubt that anyone will mind) [01:43] k [01:45] portokaosol: I just did - sudo modprobe radeon - then changed the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to r128 and restarted x [01:46] hold on, let me log in from that machine [01:47] now [01:47] here's what I got from that command [01:47] FATAL: Error inserting radeon (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) === raket2 is now known as portokaosol2 [01:50] bill: perhaps you would want to see what dmesg spits out? [01:50] portokaosol: dmesg | tail should do [01:51] [ 533.800426] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_core_ioremap [01:51] [ 533.800430] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_ioremap [01:51] [ 533.800520] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_mmap [01:51] [ 533.800543] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_mmap [01:51] [ 533.800669] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup [01:51] [ 533.800673] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup [01:51] [ 533.800763] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers [01:51] [ 533.800768] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_core_reclaim_buffers [01:51] [ 533.800843] radeon: disagrees about version of symbol drm_release [01:51] [ 533.800847] radeon: Unknown symbol drm_release [01:52] in meantime, I'll write a letter to ati, and see what can I do [01:53] portokaosol: doesn't look good that - see if ati sends a reply :) [01:54] I am trying a newer driver [01:55] (for a newer card) [01:55] k [01:55] it would be awesome if it works [02:19] If there's anyone alive, how can I make 2 xubuntu machines network? [02:48] you could use the internet [02:48] or sshd [02:49] or samba?! === platyhelminth is now known as Bill-Gates [03:14] japherwocky: sorry I didn't see you [03:14] isn't samba only for windows? [03:14] btw, brb [03:31] http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=googlevsmssu8.png === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [04:00] A neighbor of mine is using Windoze XP. He forgot his admin password. I tried re-setting it with a Ubuntu live-CD using the "chntpw" application only to find out that it was not more in the Ubuntu repos. What application in the latest version of Ubuntu can I use to reset this WXP password? [04:18] use BackTrack Live CD [04:18] hah, seriously though, I don't know === mariobro is now known as tawd [05:02] hello everyone! I succesfully managed to create samba shares on both of my Xubuntu machines, now I only need to know how can I access them [05:02] so could somebody help me, please? [05:40] hello! how do i open a file as root? i need to edit a text document... [05:42] hello! how do i open a file as root? i need to edit a text document... [05:42] !sudo | aldrick [05:42] aldrick: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. [05:43] aldrick: try "gksudo mousepad /file" [05:44] thank you ill try it now [05:47] you kick ass dude thanks!!! i thought i was going to have to reinstall xubuntu [05:48] aldrick: lol, it is simple... [06:24] is there a terminal program that will display more colors? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [07:10] hi room [07:11] * Standarsh looks around for people [07:11] hey, i know this sounds quite stupid, but where is the volume control in xubuntu 8.04? [07:12] you uda_ [07:12] I'm not on my xubuntu system now but I think it is under system [07:13] What I did was added the volume to the top panel for easy access [07:14] cant find it :/ [07:18] alright, one sec [07:18] I'll go to my other computer [07:18] seeing as I have something I want to fix with it anyway [07:18] k? [07:19] yeah cheers [07:23] waza [07:29] hmm [07:29] I'm trying to remember how I originally found it [07:29] anyway [07:29] I'll tell you how I do it now [07:30] right click the top bar and select 'add new item' [07:30] then go down to volume control [07:32] hello! how can i find out what my current window manager is? i try to manage window settings and i get this pop up " These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)" [07:33] if you are using xubuntu, you should be on xfce [07:33] but how come i get that pop up? also none of my windows have borders [07:34] anyone? [07:36] can anyone please throw some ideas as to why this would be happening? [07:42] hhmm [07:42] what are you tryin gto runÉ [08:07] hi room [08:07] is there any way to compine bne panelsÉ [08:50] Hello I need help, apparantly my video card is not being detected. [09:09] ;) [09:11] Is there any reason the release notes for Xubuntu 8.04 seem to list PulseAudio, while my fresh install does in fact not run a PulseAudio server? [09:23] AimLXJ: help is not available here [12:01] what terminal cammand can I use to clean out my temp internet files & temp files? [12:04] holyguyver_: not sure why you'd want to do it in the terminal, but removing stuff inside /tmp and anyhing in home/.tmp might help. Also depending upon "what internet files" you want to delete, every program might use a diferent location. [12:04] other than that, clear your browser cache and you should be fine. [12:05] Thank you, yes firefox & konqueror was both telling me that I had no more room for files in tmp [12:06] If you remember I am the one on the 4GB harddrive [12:09] GryzorX I cannot find the tmp folder in my home, & when I typed in /home/jack/tmp & home/jack/.tmp thunar would not take me anywhere. [12:11] holyguyver_: oh yeah, I remember you :) [12:12] holyguyver_: try sudo rm /tmp [12:12] sorry [12:12] sudo rm /tmp/* [12:12] what's the size of your swapfile? [12:13] GryzorX : rm: cannot remove `/tmp': Is a directory & rm: cannot remove `/tmp/': Is a directory [12:17] holyguyver_: use the second ->> sudo rm /tmp/* [12:18] GryzorX : rm: cannot remove `/tmp/gconfd-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/kde-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/keyring-0P1Zja': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/ksocket-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/orbit-jack': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/ssh-NCoeAk5150': Is a directory rm: cannot remove `/tmp/Tracker-jack.5242': Is a directory [12:20] holyguyver_: rm -rf /tmp/* [12:20] (append sudo) [12:21] it did not write out any response to that request [12:21] jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf /tmp/* (next line)jack@jack-desktop:~$ [12:21] that means that it did it. [12:21] issue a df -h [12:22] to see your remaining space [12:24] GryzorX Filesystem Size 4.3G Used 4.1G Avail 1.2M Use% 100% Mounted on/dev/sda2 [12:27] holyguyver_: you've ran out of disk space [12:27] GryzorX that is what I said [12:28] holyguyver_: i'd suggest that you remove stuff [12:28] GryzorX There is nothing to remove besides tmp & xubuntu itself [12:28] packages.. remove packages [12:28] remove games [12:29] remove open office if you don't use it [12:29] remove remove [12:29] leave only bare bones :) [12:29] GryzorX The only ones on are the preinstalled ones, there is no games, & I do use openoffice [12:30] GryzorX something tells me that it did not delete tmp because as I said it gave no output for your last cammand for it. [12:30] & yes I have already tried apt-get autoremove & autoclean [12:32] GryzorX the only thing I can think of is deleting my pidgin logs might clear up space. [12:32] holyguyver_: unix commands tend not to output anything if everything goes ok. [12:33] particularly the rm command does not say anything unless there is an error (as you've seen before). [12:33] if you perform ls /tmp [12:33] you'll see that most stuff is gone. [12:34] on the other hand, the "preinstalled ones" may be too much for your slow and old hard drive. You might want to use synaptic or a simlar tool to see what you have and remove from there. [12:34] Yap you are right, only 2 things remain [12:34] xubuntu comes with Abiword, if you don't want it, you might want to take that out too. [12:34] I mean, a plain Ubuntu install can go up to 2gb of stuff [12:35] mine, uses 4.3GB and I dont have too much stuff here. [12:35] also issue a reboot to make sure that the swap and stuff like that gets cleaned. [12:35] So you are suggesting that I find even small apps like using xpdf instead of evince & stuff like that? & yes you are right I do have abiword. [12:35] yes, find duplicated apps and remove the one you don't use [12:35] you have limited hardware, you need to adapt to what you have. [12:36] use either firefox or epiphany... [12:36] remove everything that you don't use. [12:37] Is it safe to remove something like tomboynotes? [12:37] it should [12:37] issue [12:38] the command and see what is going to remove [12:38] if you see something you use.. then don.t :) [12:38] ubuntu comes with games [12:38] you may want to remove them [12:38] All I can say is that I am happy that in a few days I will be getting that brand new HP with the 320GB harddrive :p [12:39] :) [12:39] gratz [12:39] As I said I already removed games a long time ago [12:40] Hey you are in luck, you are the only person who has ever seen the terminal evadance to prive that I am on a 4GB harddrive :p [12:40] prove* [12:40] Got a screen shot :) [12:40] A screenshot of what? [12:40] you saying that ;) [12:42] honostly I don't think I will be using Gimp or OO.o in the next 3 days :p [12:43] I mean for the next 3 days, so forth I can delete those until I get the new system [12:44] GryzorX what do you think? [12:45] holyguyver_: definitely. [12:46] holyguyver_: remove all non-essential stuff [12:46] holyguyver_: and leave only the things you use. [12:46] holyguyver_: you can always add them later if you need. [12:47] GryzorX I do use gimp * OO.o but as said I don't think I will need to use them for the next 3 days & after that I will have a much larger hardrive on a brand new machine :) [12:48] holyguyver_: then do your cleaning job :) [12:50] remooving OO.o impress calc & math cleared up 27m [12:51] holyguyver_: keep going :) [12:52] holyguyver_: I gotta go. Will be back later. Good luck with that. [12:53] Thank you [12:53] you're welcome. [13:37] Is system beep related to sound card / alsa? [13:38] this notebook produces all sorts of sounds but the system beep. I see pcspkr module loaded in lsmod output. [13:41] basically, I expect to hear a beep when I echo $'\a' in terminal/console. But no sound... === danielm_ is now known as danielm [16:56] !opera [16:56] opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser === saphil_ is now known as saphil [17:33] cody-somerville: brief PM please ? [17:34] !paste [17:34] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [17:39] Don_Miguel, ho ahead [17:40] *go === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.org === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com [19:30] is there a way to move windows onto another desktop? === platyhelminth is now known as Bill-Gates [19:57] hello [20:05] hey [20:05] how do I get the mount utility? [20:06] maybe sudo apt-get install mount [20:06] that seems like something that comes with the system though [20:07] well, I meant launch some kind of gui thingy [20:07] I haven't had to deal with mounts in forever [20:09] actually, I'll bbl [20:21] hello [20:22] there's a problem with the xubuntu 8.04 while installing through windows 2000 professional [20:24] !bugs [20:24] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [20:25] okay the details is like this before i try to file the report [20:25] when installing, it says that its copying the image to the hard drive [20:26] when it finishes it says that make sure no other programs are using the drive (cd-rom) [20:26] however, there are very few programs running which are not related to the drive except wubi.exe [20:27] so you're saying that all the programs are using the drive?! [20:27] no [20:27] i meant none [20:27] EXCEPT wubi.exe of course [20:27] it somehow misdetects that [20:27] in what way? [20:27] do you have an explorer window with the drive open perchance? [20:27] nope [20:27] that would also qualify as an application using the drive [20:27] no antivirus programs also [20:28] yes [20:28] but its closed also [20:28] tried more than 3 times and i'm out of luck [20:28] surprisingly i installed ubuntu it worked [20:28] there's no such error [20:28] hi [20:28] only xubuntu's giving this error [20:28] :| [20:28] hi [20:29] d0xda: you could install the console-only version of ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop on it, it would be the same as installing from xubuntu cd [20:29] has anyone of you encountered this error before? [20:30] no windows here, so I never used wubi [20:30] er.... it would be harder unfortunately. i would much prefer to use wubi because of its simplicity [20:31] with wubi, i am able to access those two OS'es easily [20:31] I meant installing the ubuntu command line with wubi, and then adding xubuntu to it [20:31] you can also install xubuntu to an ubuntu install [20:32] okay [20:32] i got what you mean there [20:33] =( however, even my ubuntu passed that wubi installation [20:33] it can't even boot up [20:33] there's an error [20:33] if i am not mistaken the error code is 15 [20:33] cannot find the file [20:34] i couldn't even boot up ubuntu successfully [20:34] =( [20:34] it haven't even pass the GUI [20:36] ah, I know this one [20:36] grub error 15 [20:36] yes [20:36] error 15 [20:36] it means you have a large disk in a fairly old computer, and that computer cannot boot if the file from which it boots is not near the beginning of the disk [20:37] nice [20:37] okay and how to solve this? [20:37] you usually work around it by making a small partition for the /boot directory near the beginning of the disk [20:37] basically the partition that i installed this ubuntu is only approximately 10GB [20:38] TheSheep: er...... can elaborate on your previous sentence? [20:38] d0xda: but it's not the first one on the disk, right? [20:38] yes [20:38] its not the 1st [20:38] there is a lot of information and workarounds when you google for 'grub error 15' [20:39] why does this happen? doesn't xubuntu supports large hard disks? [20:40] by the fact its system requirements aren't that low to be in consideration with [20:40] no, wait,scratch what I said, it was grub error 8 [20:40] aww :( [20:40] :S [20:40] :-/ [20:41] the problem was that when the booting happens, there is no ubuntu loaded yet, the computer is in control of its BIOS, and older BIOSes didn't support large disks [20:41] but yours is something else -- for some reason the kernel files seems to be missing, or at least grub can't find them to start your system [20:42] yes [20:42] its that problem [20:42] hold on i verify the error again [20:43] Error 15 --- File not found [20:43] when its saying [20:43] d0xda: I found this on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497138 [20:44] okay [20:44] i'll try to low format it first [20:45] nah [20:45] that was a bad advice, imho [20:45] oh [20:45] the next one was good though [20:45] okay [20:45] the one with menu.lst === |hfsdo| is now known as hfsdo [20:46] (type xfce4-terminal instead of 'konsole') [20:46] okay i'll try the last solution [20:46] and it's /usr/share, not /usr/sare [20:47] okay so should i go to the terminal now? from grub [20:47] no, you need to boot a livecd [20:48] then you can access the disk on which your ubuntu is installed and put the menu.lst into /boot/grub/menu.lst [20:49] ok i've booted from the live-cd [20:49] should i start ubuntu from the cd? [20:50] d0xda: yes [20:51] ok [20:54] ok now i open the terminal [20:54] then [20:55] i type xfce-4-terminal? [20:55] *xfce4-terminal [20:56] no [20:56] that just opens the terminal :) [20:57] oh.... [20:57] do you see your disk with xubuntu installed in the file manager? [20:57] yes [20:58] i see my ubuntu installation folder [20:58] in the partition (drive) that i've installed [20:58] but i don't see a "boot" folder in there [20:58] ok, there should be a boot directory there [20:58] and a grub directory in it [20:59] in the ubuntu folder? [20:59] the boot directory and grub directory should be in where? [20:59] no,on that partition [20:59] the root partition? [20:59] of that drive? [20:59] yes [20:59] yes [21:00] nope i can't see it [21:00] the one where you installed xubuntu [21:00] not the cd drive [21:00] yes [21:00] not the cd drive [21:00] its the hard disk partition [21:01] you have directories like bin, lib, usr, var in it, right? [21:03] nope [21:03] i only see 3 files/folders in that partition [21:03] ubuntu - folder [21:03] wubildr - file [21:03] wubildr.mbr - file [21:03] that's all [21:04] those directories you mentioned are all in the File System only [21:08] d0xda: ah, so it's all inside that file [21:08] d0xda: sorrym I don't know how to get into it [21:09] never mind [21:10] d0xda: found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685356 [21:10] oh [21:13] er [21:13] actually i am not very familiar with linux [21:13] anyway i've tried this way [21:14] by entering sudo cp /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst /boot/grub [21:14] no, it won't work if you installed with wubi [21:15] that was for a regular install [21:15] oh i see [21:15] did u look at the last post in the forum you showed me? [21:15] this latter forum post is for wubu though [21:15] yes [21:15] wubu? [21:16] they write that it might be coused by old config file for wubi [21:16] wubi [21:16] sorry [21:16] no problem [21:16] er but my case is a clean install [21:16] I suppose xubuntu has the older version :/ [21:16] would it be the same problem? [21:16] it could be [21:17] you could trying searching the forums some more, but that's definitely a bug to be reported [21:17] should i try this ATM? [21:17] sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst [21:17] the developers might contact you with a workaround after you report the bug too [21:18] d0xda: you don;'t have access to the /boot directory, because it's inside one of these wubi files [21:18] d0xda: packed [21:18] okay [21:18] got that [21:18] you would need to actually have this system runningto get inside it [21:18] or maybe there are some tools to access it from outaside [21:18] to get inside what? [21:18] outside [21:19] the files that actually contain your installation [21:19] oh [21:19] they are like a cd image [21:19] okay [21:19] when these bugs are fixed, will they come out another revised version? [21:19] like 8.05 or something? [21:21] no, critical bugs will be fixed in 8.04 directly (and internet updates), non-critical ones will wait for 8.10 [21:21] (the version number is the release date) [21:21] oh okay [21:21] 8.05 is may 2008 [21:22] you mean there is really a 8.05 version coming out? [21:22] no [21:22] sorry [21:23] 8.04 is April 2008 [21:23] oh [21:23] that's what I meant :) [21:23] there is a release every 6 months [21:23] okay [21:24] can you give me the link to report bugs to the technical support so that they can help me as you said before? =) [21:51] !bugs [21:51] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [21:51]