[00:03] Just out of curiosity, did the updates released a day or two ago cause xorg to stop working? [00:03] for anyone other than me? === Double_D is now known as Sergeant_Pony === ajmorris|AFK is now known as ajmorris === blackwaltz is now known as dwidmann_laptop === ajmorris is now known as ajmorris|AFK [03:47] where can i find out the new features being added to intrepid? [04:00] no one alive? [04:00] Bodsda: Oh, people alive. It's just that those haven't been decided yet. [04:01] hey RAOF -- lol,.,.ok cheers [04:02] Hmm, something I'm pondering doing over summer: hacking together pavucontrol and pavumeter into one control-and-monitor applet. [04:02] er, application. [04:02] DanaG: Oooh, please. [04:02] And then hook it up to the gnome-volume-control applet! [04:02] I currently don [04:02] I currently don't know any GTK programming... but hey, I'll try to teach myself. [04:03] Pygtk is pretty awesome; gtk# isn't bad, either. [04:03] Don't bother touching C, it's crap at UI :) [04:04] Hmm, I currrently know just C and Java... I'll have to learn something else there, then. [04:04] Oh, well if you're _comfortable_ in C, that's OK. [04:04] I haven [04:04] ARGH, /me curses at the enter key [04:04] It's just not a particularly appropriate language for UIs :) [04:04] I haven't done any UI stuff in C yet, anyway. [04:05] GTK is both complicated and simple, but it's nice in that you basically just hook everything up to a callback and call gtk.main() [04:05] Ahem. gtk_main() [04:06] I'd probably just be merging the two apps from existing code -- and then adding things like per-app volume meters. That would be nifty. [04:06] It's not so painful as Win32 and it's message-parsing-loop. [04:07] I was also considering the option of a Windows PulseAudio driver for my future Senior Project, but that may be a bit too ambitious... considering I haven't done any Windows programming stuff since I entered Cal Poly -- and then before that was VB6... ugh. [04:07] And I don't know if a virtual sound card driver could even separate apps from each other. [04:08] DanaG: You mean a virtual driver, so it goes app -> pulse-shim -> pulseaudio server -> real audio driver? [04:08] Yeah. I'd want to do the same thing libpcm-pulse.so does in Linux. [04:08] You obviously can get per-app streams on Vista, but who knows on XP. [04:09] I'd actually target at Vista, frankly. It probably has more support infrastructure. [04:09] You're aware that the pulseaudio server is ported to windows and osx, right? [04:09] Good luck getting it signed, though.... that's why I don't buy any DRMed stuff. [04:09] Yeah, but playback-only server isn't what I'm after. [04:10] The ideal thing would be to have the same capabilities on both platforms. [04:10] That reminds me... PulseAudio needs a better way to say, "Use this sound card in surround.... use that other card in stereo." [04:10] Yeah. Oh, crap, yes. No signed drivers for you! [04:10] So audio/video degredation, can't work on x86-64... [04:11] Ubuntu Hardy is now my primary OS. There are a few very major reasons, besides the open-source philosophy: [04:12] Font rendering -- Linux is awesome, Cleartype is painful (subjectively). Audio -- PulseAudio, 'nuff said. And no Creative drivers. Touchpad: all sorts of nifty features there. [04:13] I think Valve's "Source" games are approximately my last must-have Windows app. === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [04:14] Many of which run in Wine, and did you see the 'maybe Valve is porting Steam+Source to linux' rumours? [04:14] But yeah, a Wintendo is still necessary for PC gaming. [04:15] The only app I use that uses EAX effects as a key part: Uru. That game has amazing audio -- but not much replay value. Too bad the "Host OpenAL" thingy doesn't work in Wine. [04:16] I hope "Intrepid" will have something as definitive as the Heron for Hardy -- and hopefully, something that will let me stop thinking of CARS. [04:20] * RAOF hasn't seen that. [04:20] I hope someone does an awesome mountain goat. [04:20] Or possibly we just have a photo of that guy :) [04:20] gross [04:20] BHSPitLappy: Dirty. Go away. [04:20] :P [04:20] What? What did I say? [04:21] I was talking about Vista! [04:21] Oh. I thought you were talking about mountain goats. [04:21] So did I. [04:22] I can't believe they went with "Ibex". I thought for sure 7.10 was going to be Gutsy Goatse. [04:22] DanaG: Wasn't Uru that "we've done awesome real acoustic physics" thing? [04:22] It's still just EAX (preset reverb parameters, but with smooth transitions between zones.) [04:22] Me too. Iguanas are much cooler than goats. [04:23] Call me back when we do what Aureal did: simulate real physics with a low-poly secondary model. [04:23] Hmm, what Windows-only apps do I use? .......................... umm ........................... uhh .................... ... Oh, Steam. That's about it. [04:23] I suppose SUSE has already taken the Iguana/Chameleon mascot, though. [04:23] Oh, and a BIOS updater. [04:23] Heh. I finally managed to update my bios. [04:24] WinPhlash? [04:24] heh: Forty Phlashes for Phyou. [04:24] Hey, it's fun spelling things like that. [04:26] Another odd thing: if PulseAudio dies, it fails to grab the surround51:1 device the next time -- it says it's busy. [04:26] I have to remove the card, unload the module (udev rule to the rescue!), and then reinsert the card. [04:26] DanaG, Steam works in wine though [04:27] BHSPitLappy: But not all the games do. [04:27] Portal does :D [04:27] But HL2 with a 128MB GeForce Go 7600 is a bit unpleasant. [04:27] Slower than under Vista, even windowed with DWM active. [04:27] Full screen in Vista..... whee, let's page out the desktop! [04:53] Oh yeah, one random question: I used to be able to ctrl-alt-± to switch resolutions; what happened to that feature? I haven't seen it since I last used SuSE 9.3, or somewhere around then (could've been 10.1.). [04:53] Wine likes trampling on my screen resolution. [06:07] hello [06:09] I wonder if anyone can answer a short question regarding the linux kernel on Ubuntu... [06:10] "I want to download the latest kernel.org kernel and run it on my ubuntu install" [06:10] will that screw everything up? [06:10] I've had bad experience with distros before [06:10] not with Slackware [06:10] but with distros like suse [06:10] ... [06:11] #ubuntu+1 is for Intrepid; try the regular #ubuntu [06:11] Intrepid is quite a while away right now. [06:11] DanaG, sorry... just the ubuntu channel people seem never have heard of downloading the vanilla kernel [06:12] they all use apt-get [06:12] Aah. [06:12] !kernel [06:12] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [06:12] The make-kpkg method is what I did when I compiled my own kernels; I haven't lately had a need to do so. [06:13] ubottu, it's fun and nice to trim down the kernel, and I feel better knowing it's the kernel.org one [06:13] hroi: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:13] hehe [06:14] wow intelligent bot!! [06:15] thanks DanaG i'll look at that, before on slackware I just downloaded the source, and essentially: make menuconfig and make [06:15] always worked great [06:16] Using kpkg makes it far easier to maintain. [06:16] except if some driver became incompatible... [06:16] ok [06:16] best I'll try to get into how that works [06:17] ok I c. this is an autmated script from debian... sounds nice. [06:19] Oh, and if you want to pass -j to it, export a "CONCURRENCY_LEVEL" variable. [06:25] ok [06:27] exit [06:27] Like, export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 [09:26] anyone here can help me turn my intel wifi card 4965 abgn On? [09:26] it is on kill switch on [09:48] good morning all === acuster is now known as watch-CIA-53 === Lamego_ is now known as joaopinto === chand is now known as chand[aw] === ajmorris is now known as ajmorris|AFK === chand[aw] is now known as chand [13:52] can I get some attention on: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32865 [13:53] I would love to know of a way to make may intel 4965 kill switch turn off... any tips are welcome [13:57] BUGabundo_work: if this is for the hardy release then its really not the right place to ask in here [13:59] ok [13:59] sorry scizzo- [13:59] redirecting to #ubuntu [13:59] BUGabundo_work: the best place to ask if it is hardy related is in #ubuntu [14:00] BUGabundo_work: this channel will be fore the ibex development. [14:00] I know [14:00] but more devs are here [14:00] so I guessed I could get better suppot in here [14:01] but again: sorry for the noise [14:01] AFAIK there aren't more devs in here compared to #ubuntu....but I can be wrong [14:01] humm not sure [14:02] but you know how frustant it is to not having a wifi card, do to a soft button.... [14:02] grrrrrr === Spec[x] is now known as Spec [14:22] hi, everyone, why I can't move mysqld datadir to difference directory? [14:22] I had changed the configuration /etc/mysql/my.cnf [14:22] and had told mysql use the /home/mysql as his datadir, [14:22] I had changed the permission. [14:22] but mysql can't be started, [14:23] but when I move the datadir to original place, it can work. [14:23] and the log said: audit(1210684735.229:48): type=1503 operation="inode_create" requested_mask="w::" denied_mask="w::" name="/home/mysql /ghw.lower-test" pid=11223 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" namespace="default [14:23] why? [14:23] anyone can help me? [14:23] thanks [14:25] ？ [14:28] Mikeg, your question related to Ubuntu Interpid ? the regular ubuntu support channel is #Ubuntu :) [14:30] thanks. [14:30] seem to I had know this question. because nobody can help me in ubuntu. [14:30] #ubuntu. [14:30] so I asked it here. but now, I seem to had find out what i will to do. [14:31] /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.msyqld [14:31] edit this file. [14:31] Mikeg: This isnt an extension of #ubuntu, this channel is only for Intrepid questions. [14:31] ok [14:31] thanks === hwilde_ is now known as hwilde === blackwaltz is now known as dwidmann_laptop [15:52] is ubuntu suffering from this also? http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2008/msg00152.html [15:53] oh fixes already uploaded [15:53] nvm then ==) [16:04] can someone help with ssh [16:05] I can't get it to work [16:06] from the client side? Roshan [16:06] I am usin putty [16:07] and I am getting server refuse our key [16:07] is ssh-server started on the host? [16:07] yea [16:07] I use putty-keygen to gen a key [16:07] can you connect to it frmo the localhost? [16:08] and import it into .ssh/authorized_keys [16:09] from local host i am getting authenticity can't be establish [16:09] hummm [16:10] Host key verification failed [16:10] rename the key file [16:10] Roshan: this is on intrepid ? [16:10] I guess it is corrupt [16:10] hmm [16:10] let me gen one locally and see [16:10] Roshan: what version of ubuntu and what ssh version is it using [16:10] ikonia: I'm guessing its hardy [16:10] BUGabundo_work: then why is it being discussed in here ? [16:11] I can't see the ssh package in the intrepid packages [16:11] hence why I'm asking [16:12] hardy [16:12] 8.04 [16:13] srry [16:17] hi [16:21] hi [16:21] hi === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker`` [17:33] hey guys where can i dowload ibex to start helping with debugging and if i can developing [17:33] you can't download it afaik [17:33] eagles0513875: did you read the topic? [17:33] just change sources.list [17:34] !sourceomatic [17:34] source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages. [17:34] rsk: i used to use sourceomatic but its been taken down [17:36] humm === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [17:50] how do i change my sources list [17:51] eagles0513875: edit /etc/apt/sources.list [17:51] lore20: that i know but what in there do i need to change [17:52] eagles0513875: i think that's the first indication you have no business running intrepid [17:52] eagles0513875: If you are having to ask these questions, you may not have enough experience to run a pre-alpha version [17:52] i wanna help out by reporting bugs [17:53] umm [17:53] and also if i can i would like to start learning how to fix more bugs [17:53] eagles0513875: It may be better to start doing that later in the development cycle [17:53] ok then what needs to be done right now then more programming then anything [17:54] you reading some ubuntu/debian FAQs and howtos [17:54] ok [18:09] I was wondering if, in Intrepid, if it would be possible to have the Windows key be the key by default? I don't know if this is my computer (in which case I'll file a bug report) or if it is the default behaviour. I had to go to Keyboard settings to change it. [18:14] i wondered why #ubuntu was so quiet... I was on oftc. der [18:15] anon111: did you try to change it in: System > Windows? [18:17] System > Preferences > Windows that is.. [18:25] Sorry if I was unclear. In Compiz, some of the defaults involve the "Super" key. When I pressed the "Windows logo" key on my keyboard, it didn't work. I had to go to System > Preferences > Keyboard to activate it. === khamael_ is now known as Khamael === fdd-0 is now known as fdd === amblin_ is now known as amblin === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === crd1b is now known as crdlb === ktogias_ is now known as ktogias [22:03] anybody know when libxfont1 will be fixed ? [22:11] ??? [22:16] anybody here ? [22:16] not really [22:16] thats what I though! [22:27] hey can anyone help me with my horrible sound quality problem in ubuntu [23:07] hello. [23:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4952014#post4952014 [23:09] hello? [23:09] keep in mind that there are people present who don't have access to that URL [23:09] oh? [23:10] can they just copy and paste? [23:10] i.e., don't just post a URL and assume everyone can navigate to it. Summarising the real issue is highly recommended. [23:10] okay. [23:10] it'll be long. [23:10] (and no, I mean that ubuntuforums.org is blocked for some people) [23:10] oh? [23:10] okay [23:11] can I do pastebin then? [23:11] absolutely [23:11] k [23:11] jhb1608: I don't think 5.10 is supported anymore either.... [23:11] I have 5.10 [23:11] oh? [23:12] I can't update ubuntu without internet [23:12] it is why. [23:12] I'll wait on cable internet then [23:12] jhb1608: or you can order 8.04 CDs from shipit [23:12] tried it [23:12] it won't let me change the address [23:12] I move a lot [23:12] 3 times [23:12] jhb1608: heh [23:12] now it will be 4 [23:13] jhb1608: anyways support for this would be in #ubuntu, not #ubuntu+1 [23:13] I asked [23:13] and they don't respond [23:14] I'll wait for few days then. === marko_ is now known as marko-_- [23:43] will someone help me... I uninstalled alsamixer and reinstalled it and now it says I don't have a soundcard