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dholbachgood morning06:43
huatsmorning everyone08:58
emberhey13:08
pochulool: thanks for the Vinagre upload :)16:03
pochuseb128: could you please sync vinagre 2.23.2-1 from incoming.d.o?16:03
seb128pochu: I'm too lazy to do incoming syncing, will do that later when it's available on the mirrors, there is no hurry ;-)16:04
seb128pochu: you package 2.23 for debian already?16:05
pochuseb128: yup :)16:05
pochuseb128: but that's for experimental16:05
seb128good luck handling the bug load going with early unstable versions ;-)16:06
pochu.2 fixes a bug for which there's a request to get it into Hardy (and has a debdiff attached)16:06
pochuthe one somebody asked you about it because it introduces a couple of strings16:07
pochuheh, thanks, but it's in experimental so hopefully not many people uses it :)16:07
seb128the ctrl-alt-del menu item bug?16:10
pochuseb128: yup16:11
seb128pochu: did you work on an hardy update for this one?16:12
pochubug 19911616:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 199116 in vinagre "Can not send 'Ctrl+Alt+Del'" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19911616:12
pochuseb128: no, but someone else did and attached a debdiff to the report16:12
pochuseb128: BTW, 2.23.2 needs gtk-vnc 0.3.6 which needs to go though binary NEW16:13
seb128ok, good16:13
seb128ok16:13
seb128I'm still focusing on hardy but I'll start looking at the GNOME merges and updates after uds I think16:13
pochuslangasek asked in the bug report to fix it in Intrepid first, so with this sync we should be done16:13
pochuI was looking at pygobject FTBFS yesterday, and spent about 2 hours on it, and I finally realize it was still failing to build because of a bug in my shell...16:16
pochuI think I got the bug fixed, but couldn't check it16:16
pochuhas someone noticed that bash-completion doesn't work properly for some cases? I think that was related as the build failures where syntax issues16:17
pochuI even tried building Vinagre 0.5 and other things and they all failed16:17
pittiseb128: I've got a question: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/229866/comments/416:18
pochu'dpkg -L libgtk<tab>' completes to 'dpkg -L libgtk^[\[m^[\[K^[\[m^[\[K'16:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229866 in gdm "2.20.6 stable update" [Wishlist,Confirmed]16:18
pochuit could also be that I've messed up my .bashrc or something like that... I'll try with a new user and see if that's still happening16:19
pittiseb128: (added a further comment)16:19
seb128pitti: looking16:20
seb128pitti: the commit log on http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gdm?view=revision&revision=6167 has some details16:23
seb128pitti: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509141 comment #15 too16:24
ubottuGnome bug 509141 in general "GDM does not honor LC_DATE" [Normal,Unconfirmed]16:24
pittiseb128: right, I saw that; I mean the G_BROKEN_FILENAMES removal16:24
pittiah, that was the same commit16:25
pittiseb128: right, so they suggest that we set this in our distro specific Xsession.common?16:26
seb128pitti: G_BROKEN_FILENAMES is something to set when you don't use an utf-8 locale16:26
pittiseb128: which is not our default, but many people still have that (unfortunately)16:26
seb128well, I've rebooted with the new version16:26
seb128but this one should not be set on systems using an UTF-8 locale16:26
seb128I'm wondering if that was really set16:27
seb128do you have it defined?16:27
pittiseb128: would that be in /etc/gdm/Xsession ?16:27
loolseb128: The new vinagre versions don't seem that disruptive16:27
loolpochu: Could you comment on that ::1/localhost bug?  I tried reproducing it, but I couldn't with the latest vinagre16:28
pittiseb128: ok, grep -r G_BROKEN_FILE /etc doesn't deliver anything16:28
lool(I could connect to localhost and to ::1 just fine)16:28
seb128pitti: we install debian/Xsession16:28
pittiseb128: when you install the new .deb, do you actually get a 'installing new conffile' note?16:28
pittiseb128: aah16:28
seb128pitti: so the change doesn't make a difference for us16:29
pittiseb128: alright then, thank you!16:29
seb128pitti: thank *you* for being careful when checking uploads ;-)16:30
pochulool: I don't know anything about IPv6, but I asked jwendell (upstream of both vino and vinagre) and he told me that was a known issue and that it will be fixed in 2.2416:33
pochulool: wait, let me check it16:34
pochulool: reproduced here16:38
pochulool: in Hardy, BTW16:38
pochu(vinagre 0.5.1)16:38
pochulool: but that should be a vino bug16:44
ember_pochu do you have an example of a simple python package not using the default setup.py on install?17:00
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pochuember: decibel-audio-player uses a simple Makefile, and scribes uses autotools. Are any of them ok?17:02
emberwell this one just uses "python install.py" for installing17:05
pochuember: is install.py a distutils script?17:14
pochuif so, you can point to it in debian/rules (if using CDBS) with 'DEB_PYTHON_SETUP_CMD := install.py'17:15
pochu(https://perso.duckcorp.org/duck/cdbs-doc/cdbs-doc.xhtml)17:15
emberno, is just a .py to check modules and with os.system("cp") to install py17:16
pochuheh17:17
pochuyou can call it in the install rule17:17
emberhmm i'm gonna try packaging this one17:20
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mneptokwhat a wonderful day.17:44
seb128hey mneptok17:44
mneptokheya seb17:44
mneptokfor those with GNOME access and personal keys they no longer trust, please update your system, re-generate keys, and send mail to accounts@gnome.org with the subject "replace Debian/Ubuntu key"17:45
mneptokmy day is going to suck, but i'll try to stay on top of key change requests @gnome.org caused by this.17:46
* seb128 hugs mneptok ;-)17:46
pedro_niiice17:46
pedro_thanks mneptok :-)17:46
mneptokno promises, as i haven't talked to Zaid about watching GNOME.17:46
seb128mneptok: could you give an hint of what keys should not be trusted for those who are not security wizards there? ;-)17:47
mneptokbut then i can guess the sabdfl's wishes, i think.17:47
mneptokif you are 100% absolutely certain you generated your SSH key on a Dapper or prior Ubuntu installation, do nothing.17:47
mneptokotherwise, you'll want to replace all your SSH keys, wherever they live.17:48
mneptokthe updates today will check host-wide keys and re-generate them. expect hostkey change warnings from ~/.ssh/known_hosts17:49
mneptokbut the packages do nothing vis-a-vis personal keys. please re-generate and get those to GNOME first. ;)17:50
pochulool: I've tracked it down to GREP_OPTIONS="--color=always", with --color=auto (or without it) my shell works fine again. Seems to be Debian bug #41479818:05
ubottupochu: Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: timed out18:05
pochuhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=41479818:05
* pochu tries to build pygobject now18:05
ubottupochu: Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: timed out18:05
pochubah, I'm too stupid to be able to run autoreconf on pygobject19:15
pochuor pygobject is too b0rked19:16
* jdavies hugs poor pochu 19:18
pochu:-)19:18
pochuseb128: I guess we still want 61_dont_use_setwakeupfd.patch in pygobject? that's our last diff19:19
pochuThere's at least http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471528 and http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471559 making it hard to run autoreconf there19:20
ubottuGnome bug 471528 in general "m4 macros needed to rebuild configure aren't shipped with 2.13.x" [Minor,Unconfirmed]19:20
mneptokawalton__: check e-mail please19:36
awalton__mneptok, thanks for the quick response!19:37
mneptokeverybody visualize happy upstreams ...19:37
mneptokawalton__: give things 90m to populate19:41
awalton__no problem. just have to figure out everywhere else I was using that key.. terrible memory :-/19:42
seb128pochu: upstream fixed the issue I think, would be nice to get the fix rather19:55
pochunice19:55
* pochu hopes it doesn't touch autotools :)19:56
pochuseb128: do you know what commit or a bug# ? looking at http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/pygobject/trunk/?view=log the last commit mentioning that is 4 months old19:59
seb128pochu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48156919:59
ubottuGnome bug 481569 in gtk "Calling gobject.threads_init() causes a lot of wakeups" [Normal,Reopened]19:59
pochuah, right, thanks19:59
seb128pochu: looks like they didn't commit the change yet20:00
seb128so either backport those or still use the change20:00
pochuI'll try to latest patch20:00
pochus/to/the/20:00
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loolpochu: I have --color=auto21:32
sorenpython-gtk2-dev seems to be uninstallable on the intrepid buildd's. Is this known? There's no bug about it, but I'd be rather surprised if I was the first to hit it.22:19
soren..or is there perhaps something I need to change in my package? (build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14502657/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.virt-manager_0.5.4-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz )22:20
gesersoren: I've seen many packages FTBFS because of this, but didn't look deeper into this22:32
sorengeser: Ok, thanks.22:49
mneptokawalton__: back in the game?23:24
awalton__I should be, I need to check in a bit23:25
awalton__my internet's acting really flaky23:25
pochusoren: I'm looking into that. Guess I should file a bug report23:44
pochusoren: that's because libffi4 was removed. Rebuilding it against latest pygobject will make the libffi dependency to dissapear. But pygobject FTBFS. I'm working on that23:46
sorenpochu: Ah, great.23:46
pochuI hope to get it ready for upload by tomorrow...23:46
pochuIt's late here :)23:47
sorenYeah, same here :)23:47

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