| flaccid | is the doc team/ubuntu going to release any more books like official ubuntu book? | 06:35 |
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| nixternal | yes | 06:45 |
| nixternal | :) | 06:45 |
| nixternal | next month, or end of this month | 06:46 |
| flaccid | ah ok, what release does it cover. is this an updated official ubuntu book? | 06:46 |
| nixternal | 8.04 | 06:47 |
| nixternal | yes, updated official ubuntu book | 06:47 |
| nixternal | make sure you read the Edubuntu chapter, I just worked on that one for this release :) | 06:47 |
| nixternal | and the Kubuntu chapter is all jjesse's fault | 06:47 |
| flaccid | nice one nix | 06:47 |
| flaccid | i guess i'll have to wait for release. how much kde4 is covered if at all? | 06:48 |
| flaccid | ok cool.... is there a plan to update that book again for next release or something? i guess im saying its a bit premature for kde4 | 06:50 |
| nixternal | 1 whole chapter of KDE 4 | 06:52 |
| nixternal | ya, we will update again for either 8.10 or 9.04 | 06:52 |
| flaccid | cool, looks like i'll be competing unless someone else releases a book for us to compete with which is a good thing anyway | 06:53 |
| flaccid | mine *may* be the first kubuntu only/centric book out there | 06:54 |
| nixternal | oh man I am envious of that one! | 06:54 |
| nixternal | well now that you are doing it, I will not go for it then :) you just freed up my future a bit | 06:54 |
| flaccid | well as i mentioned to you recently, i offered it to the doc project in the past but you were happy with the 'topic-based system'.. | 06:55 |
| nixternal | oh ya....that's right | 06:56 |
| flaccid | :p | 06:56 |
| nixternal | ya, we are stuck with topic based for system documentation | 06:56 |
| nixternal | but it is needed for a printed document no doubt | 06:56 |
| flaccid | it was either do this book or one on web dev. this one seemed more appropriate | 06:56 |
| flaccid | not sure how you are stuck with it but ok :) | 06:57 |
| nixternal | and probably easier considering how much web dev is going to change again over the next couple of years with the new css and html crap that google is infecting | 06:57 |
| nixternal | flaccid: freedesktop.org :) | 06:57 |
| nixternal | that's how...we are working to share stuff back and forth with the other desktops now | 06:57 |
| flaccid | that prevents you from creating such a doc, i don't see how.. | 06:58 |
| nixternal | and seeing as system documentation is much better in a topic based setting, it only makes sense to extend it one to the Linux desktop as well | 06:58 |
| flaccid | but yeah in web dev, its a similar case - not really any/many recent books that are web standards, its pathetic | 06:58 |
| nixternal | it doesn't prevent us, we just don't have the people to maintain a printed a document like it | 06:58 |
| flaccid | yeah this is true - what we established before | 06:58 |
| flaccid | i mean i don't even know what 'topic based' means. everything is topic based, is it not? | 06:59 |
| nixternal | well, think of the windows help system or the apple help system | 06:59 |
| flaccid | which nobody uses :p | 06:59 |
| nixternal | actually, I use the windows one when I am on a windows box because I am lost | 07:00 |
| nixternal | and the Windows help system was the only thing that score higher than a 2 on the vista usability tests :) | 07:00 |
| flaccid | interesting, so vista help, actually helps you reckon? | 07:00 |
| nixternal | and it helps you wreck it :) | 07:01 |
| flaccid | my objection is always about how you have to know the topic to look for instead of being lead to it.. | 07:01 |
| nixternal | for instance, with the old kubuntu documentation, everything was in a single book, so the topics weren't broken down into pieces, making it harder to locate something | 07:03 |
| flaccid | well in my opinion its about a logical well-abstracted TOC | 07:03 |
| nixternal | with the topic based help that we switched to, everything is broken down into a topic, which you can/will eventually be able to do with the kio help slave is 'help://kubuntu/networking | 07:03 |
| flaccid | this is what i'm designing with my book | 07:03 |
| flaccid | hmm well i like to set a universe of discourse too | 07:04 |
| nixternal | oh well, I need to head to bed...I have AT&T knocking on my door in about 6 hours :) | 07:06 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 07:06 |
| flaccid | ok mate thanks for the chat again, has helped me understand where things are at | 07:06 |
| flaccid | gnight | 07:06 |
| mdke | morning ll | 08:20 |
| mdke | *all | 08:20 |
| ikonia | is it possible to insert an image into a wiki page, I can't see any topics that suggest it is | 13:54 |
| bimberi | ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide/Screenshots from "To upload an image:" | 14:18 |
| ikonia | ahh thank you | 14:29 |
| ikonia | screenshot was the keyword | 14:29 |
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| Syntux | any GUI replacement to the missing system -> preferences -> Hardware information ? this question been circulating around forums, mailing lists and launchpad answers | 22:53 |
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