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asacgood question00:00
asacbut in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/215728/comments/120 there is no tracker00:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 215728 in xulrunner-1.9 "[MASTER] Committing to urlclassifier3.sqlite causes excessive CPU usage and disk I/O" [High,Fix released]00:02
campdyeah00:03
campdI saw the performance degredation pre-patch, without tracker00:03
campdno doubt00:03
campd(I don't particularly suspect that tracker's the problem here, but yeah)00:04
asaccampd: in case its not clear, the comment refers to xul after the patch00:04
campdah, ok00:05
campdyeah, it wasn't :)00:05
asacwell ... i assume so :/00:05
=== Double_D is now known as Sergeant_Pony
JazzvaIf I need some program to be compat both with ff2 and 3, is it ok if it builds agains libxul-dev?01:05
JazzvaOr is it some other package?01:05
JazzvaWell, this one particularly says:01:07
JazzvaUnmet build dependencies: libxul-dev | firefox-dev | iceape-dev01:07
JazzvaCan I just remove libxul-dev, and replace firefox-dev with firefox-3.0-dev | firefox-2-dev?01:08
asacJazzva: good question01:08
asacwhich program is that?01:09
Jazzvagecko-mediaplayer01:09
JazzvaIf I install libxul-dev, it removes xulrunner-1.9-dev...01:09
asacyou can try libxul-dev or firefox-2-dev01:10
asacif it doesn't work on xul 1.9 we have to look closer01:10
JazzvaBut why woud libxul-dev remove xulrunner-1.9-dev, if it's not in libxul's Replaces/Conflicts01:12
asacwe conflict it from xulrunner-1.9-dev01:13
JazzvaAh...01:14
JazzvaI'll look more into that tommorow... Now, off to bed. Good night, all :)01:24
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
gnomefreakfta: ff3.0 rc1 is borked badly05:55
gnomefreakfta: asac ff3 rc1 doesnt start at all06:05
gnomefreakthis sucks i guess i change default browser now. let me know hwo to get term output when running firefox since 3 doesnt give any06:24
gnomefreakff4 doesnt start either06:25
devilsadvocateff4?06:26
gnomefreakff4 does start06:26
gnomefreakdevilsadvocate: ye06:26
gnomefreaks06:26
devilsadvocatehm06:26
gnomefreakdamn i hate to downgrade :(06:30
gnomefreakbrb gonna try a few things to get this to work06:34
gnomefreakit seems i had to restart Ubuntu to get 3.0rc1 to run06:42
gnomefreakwell i built firegpg installed the .deb now not sure how to enable it since its not in addons dialog and not in place it should be. if asac or fta Jazzva show up ping me please07:25
gnomefreakmy damn branches for firegpg have nothing in them maybe ill work on it big time tomorrow seeing as its 2:27am :(07:27
gnomefreakok dapper and feisty set up also next and last is sid i think or lenny or both but well see tomorrow07:54
gnomefreaknight07:54
asachmm08:41
ftagnomefreak, no problem with rc1 here. works like a charm09:13
ftaasac, my membership for ubuntu-bugcontrol is about to expire, no idea why. maybe they expect me a quota of bugs / day.. no idea. if that's it, i can't compete09:36
asacfta: he?09:42
asacfta: maybe you have been in there for a year or so?09:42
james_wfta: it's a timed expiry, you can request renewal.09:42
james_whey asac09:42
asacfta: yeah ... most likely you can click a link in mail and renew on your own ;)09:42
asachi james_w09:42
asacfta: if you cant let me know ... or ask pedro or bdmurray directly09:43
asacjames_w: are you the right person to talk about improved bug processing tools :)?09:47
asace.g. outside of launchpad ;)09:47
asacjtv: you think i could try an import or has the change been rolled-back?09:52
jtvasac: it's been rolled back (although I'm pretty sure that the error happened in the rollout, not in the actual code).09:54
jtvasac: you can start importing though: some will succeed, others will fail.09:55
jtvasac: and once the fix is deployed again, I can just mark the failed ones for re-import.09:55
james_wasac: what do you mean?09:55
asacjtv: ok ... so can i work around by removing the contributor lines manually for the few translations i need now?09:55
jtvasac: yes, that will do the trick as well.09:56
asacjtv: whats the idea now? do a properly staged roll-out to staging.... ?09:56
jtvasac: staging already has the fix.  It was the rollout to production that failed.09:57
asacjames_w: thought one of your expertises is on development tools for ubuntu ... wondered if bug management counts for that ;)09:58
james_wah, thekorn and bdmurray are the people to talk to, they wrote bughelper and the like.09:58
asacjtv: only em:contributor ... or also em:creator?09:59
asacjames_w: well ...  my idea goes far beyond bughelper ;)09:59
asacbut i get the point09:59
james_wasac: well we can chat about it next week, you never know what might happen.10:00
asachehe ;) ... yes, thats why i ask. i am thinking about who to talk to about the various things i10:00
jtvasac: only contributor.10:00
asacd like to get improved10:00
asacjtv: interesting ... https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/+imports ... de.xpi was renamed to midbrowser-de.po ?? while the zh-XX .xpis are still named the same way?10:15
jtvasac: did that happen just after your upload?10:17
asacjtv: yes10:28
asacfirst time i went to import queue it read "midbrowser-de.po"10:29
jtvasac: I see it...  Maybe there was still a failed entry in the queue that you overwrote.10:29
jtvAnd now it also has the slash?10:29
asacjtv: hmm. i didn't look for old entries right. i remember that i tried to import de for midbrowser a few days ago though10:30
asacbut i thought it finally failed10:30
jtvasac: failed entries will stay in the queue as such.10:30
asacanyway, the import failed ... ill strip off the contributor and try again10:30
jtvI'll force a rename in the meantime.10:30
asacok reuploaded.10:31
asacde.xpi (without empty <em:contributor>)10:31
* jtv crosses fingers.10:31
asacme too ;)10:32
asacnow de.xpi appears to be approved (zh-XX.xpi not yet)10:33
jtvasac: I think that approval was a side effect of my changing the name.10:37
asack ;)10:39
asacbug 22088610:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220886 in firefox "firefox tabs keep switching and application becomes unresponsive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22088610:39
asac \o/ down to 600 unread mails in my ffox 2 bug folder :)10:44
asacwell 700 ... but down from 2800 a few days ago ;)10:45
asaci think how many books i could have read :/10:45
asacjtv: good news. midbrowser de.xpi import succeeded. we have 8 untranslated strings only ;)11:11
asachttps://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/trunk/+pots/midbrowser/de/+translate?batch=10&show=untranslated11:11
jtvasac: nice!11:11
asacjtv: will the other be auto approved?11:11
asachttps://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/+imports11:11
jtvasac: should be, yes.  I can speed it up though... just a moment.11:11
asaclet me import all translations the mid team needs right now ;)11:13
asacjtv: what happens if i import es-ES.xpi + es-AR.xpi ? will both be included in export?11:16
asacstill a bit confused about the language merge ;)11:16
jtvasac: should be, but still a bit uncertain about that myself!11:17
asacjtv: better test that with pt ... as thats a locale mid dont need right now11:17
asac:)11:17
asacimporting that too then11:17
jtvasac: about the es-ES, just to be sure: you only have es-*.xpi, right?  No plain es.xpi?11:19
asacjtv: right11:20
asacsame as for zh-XX.xpi11:20
jtvasac: then I'll import es-ES as the regular es translation.11:20
asacok and es-AR? ignored?11:20
jtvasac: well, zh is a bit of a special case because there is no plain zh.11:20
jtvasac: should go in, though I'm not sure it's very useful.11:20
asacjtv: could you approve all that are now uploaded one more time?11:21
jtvasac: was already doing that11:21
asacwe will see what happens to pt-XX * i guess11:21
jtvasac: I've imported pt-PT as plain pt, but pt-BR as pt_BR (as per convention).11:23
asacjtv: is that auto mapped?11:23
asacor should i have uploaded it differently?11:23
jtvasac: not auto, unfortunately.11:23
asacok ... so the tools to sync translations should map that up front i guess11:24
asacjtv: but you only renamed the .xpi?11:24
jtvI did not rename the XPI, just set the language.11:24
jtvWe have separate language records for es and es_ES, etc.11:24
jtvFor auto-approval, it's definitely best to upload es.xpi rather than es-ES.xpi.11:25
asachmm ... will the chrome parser choke? i mean if you import it as es and in chrome.manifest there is es-ES ?11:26
asacjtv: ?11:26
jtvasac: right now, the language code from the manifest doesn't go anywhere.11:28
jtvasac: so it's still the one from the filename that determines what happens.11:28
asacjtv: ok interesting ... so you can not yet upload a .xpi with multiple translations11:29
jtvasac: not yet11:29
asac(not that i thought different )11:29
jtvasac: it's not hard to do, but it means bypassing the auto-approval altogether.11:30
jtvSo we'd need to re-engineer the approval code for that.11:30
asacjtv: ok. i think we should rather write tools to split .xpis11:47
asaci already have some code for that but needs a bit care before it becomes perfect11:47
jtvasac: that's great.11:48
jtvasac: I'm just off for lunch.  Back in an hour!11:48
asacephy broke with xul 1.9 rc112:25
asactoo bad :/12:25
asacjtv: ok ... not sure if this is bad news, but the xul 1.9 import finished 5 minutes ago and on launchpad page there are still almost no translated strings :(12:36
asacand i cannot update strings in de translation. get (Error ID: OOPS-864ED26)12:41
asacjtv: ^12:41
asac(Timeout error)12:42
Mirvasac: did you fix some printing-specific problem in the xulrunner/firefox locales for German near the release? bug 219655 still applies to Finnish (printing broken unless xulrunner fi disabled), but someone who had the same problem in German said it was fixed 2008-04-2313:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 219655 in xulrunner "Firefox (xulrunner) printing problem when using Finnish (fi) translation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21965513:56
Mirvasac: oh, sorry, you've just answered to the bug :)13:56
Mirvanswered it (the file does open correctly)13:58
asacMirv: can you paste it somewhere please?14:02
Mirvasac: actually since it was so short file, I pasted it there in the report14:03
asacvirhe käsiteltäessä ulkoista olioviittausta14:05
asacwhat does that translate to?14:05
asacMirv: ?14:05
jtvasac: (sorry, on phone)14:09
asacMirv: ok got the bug i think14:11
Mirvasac: error handling external object reference14:13
Mirvasac: and great, if you did. it does affect quite a lot of people, I just didn't try printing myself before14:15
asacMirv: do you know how to escape % in entity dtds?14:17
Mirvasac: deducting from the current -de translation probably &#037;14:19
asacright14:19
jtvasac: off the call now... I saw something about an outage, but don't know what it was.  Is it better now?14:24
asacjtv: the import apparently didn't happen for xulrunner-1.9. i reuploaded it now14:25
asacqueue appears to be crowded again14:25
asactranslating in launchpad website works again for midbrowser (that was the other issue i mentioned)14:26
Mirvasac: so it's probably in the conversion script again? just checking that the German translation in Rosetta seems to be #1%... though then again the xulrunner / firefox translations recently disappeared and are apparently making comeback now and eg. that specific string was touched by you 2 hours ago14:27
asacMirv: i attached the branch that has the fix now14:27
asacto the bug14:27
asacjtv: there are some translations not matched in fr import of midbrowser. https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/midbrowser/trunk/+pots/midbrowser/fr/+translate14:29
Mirvasac: ok, thanks. I now also tested manually that changing the % to &#037; in xulrunner-1.9-fi.jar fixes the problem14:29
asacright14:29
asacwe will get updated lang packs when RC1 is out. if that doesn't happen this week i will update them manually14:30
Mirvasac: sounds great14:30
MirvI put up manual fix instructions for those who can copy paste to terminal window.14:44
gnomefreakfta: i had to restart Ubuntu to get rc1 to even run but it works now not sure why that happened. this is hardy set up, i had an issue with alpine nad my Ubuntu passwords so i went back to hardy for a few days14:45
asacMirv: you can also provide the fixed .jar file with instructions where to copy them14:45
gnomefreak!info libxfont1 intrepid14:46
ubottulibxfont1 (source: libxfont): X11 font rasterisation library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.3.2-1 (intrepid), package size 210 kB, installed size 460 kB14:46
gnomefreakstill the borked version14:46
gnomefreakwell i got ok but he didnt seem like it was still being worked on :(14:48
gnomefreak!info iceape gutsy14:53
ubottuPackage iceape does not exist in gutsy14:53
gnomefreakasac: reading over bugs and your asking them to use apport. you might want to tell them how to turn it on since its off on stable release. Also last i heard turning it on doesnt work, i dont remeber instructions off hand but thats why i told them to get backtraces.15:09
jtvasac: sorry for yet more delays, still busy.  I see fewer than a dozen untranslated messages in that French translation... does that mean the problem is fixing itself?15:11
asacjtv: no ... some strings are not translated ... thats not correct15:13
asaci will ook closer after lunch (late yeah)15:14
jtvasac: end of my day is coming up, but feel free to email me if you want an answer tomorrow morning.15:15
myown76hi to all15:16
* asac lunch15:18
myown76I'm not able to acces to thunderbird profile15:18
myown76what should I do15:19
myown76_hi to all15:31
myown76_what should I do15:31
myown76_I'm not able to acces to thunderbird profile15:31
gnomefreakoh wtf15:35
gnomefreakmyown76_: how are you trying to access it?15:35
gnomefreakfta: when you get a sec let me know15:35
myown76_gnomefreak, i launch tb15:36
gnomefreakmyown76_: what version?15:36
myown76_gnomefreak, I select the profile and it ask to me for a new profile15:36
gnomefreakmyown76_: launch tb and what no settings are there?15:36
myown76_i'm using ubuntu15:36
myown76_the latest version15:36
gnomefreakmyown76_: latest version isnt helpfull15:37
gnomefreakwhat is the latest version that you have?15:37
myown76_wait a sec15:37
myown76_i serch for version number15:37
myown76_2.0.0.1415:37
gnomefreakfta: im updating tb for latest a2 snapshot and it isnt finding the tarball in tarballs15:37
gnomefreakmyown76_: and your mailboxes are not there when you launch it?15:38
myown76_gnomefreak, no it is not there, tb ask for me to create a new account15:38
myown76_the other profile works fine15:38
gnomefreakfta: used devscripts to build tarball15:38
myown76_the profile I use for work mail does'nt work15:39
gnomefreakmyown76_: what is the command that is being used to launch it?15:39
myown76_thunderbird %u15:40
gnomefreakmyown76_: thunderbird hasnt been updated in last week or so, so tb profile should never have changed. what did you do with profile? did you launch tb using -P?15:40
gnomefreakmyown76_: did you move it and than put it back?15:40
myown76_I've done anything :(15:40
gnomefreakis this profile from another pc?15:40
myown76_yesterday it was working and this afternoo it does'nt work15:41
gnomefreakor another partition?15:41
myown76_another partition15:41
gnomefreakmyown76_: you cant do that15:41
myown76_partition /dati fat3215:41
myown76_no?15:41
gnomefreakmyown76_: the profile is a series of letters/numbers they are differnet all the time15:41
gnomefreaklook at your profile name15:42
myown76_bat I use this mode from more than two year...15:42
myown76_i do15:42
gnomefreakmyown76_: well first cant support using fat32+ubuntu+tb15:42
myown76_bi4ds7jp.default is the name of the profile foldere15:43
myown76_bi4ds7jp.default is the name of the profile folder15:43
gnomefreakthere is something that is gonna prevent it from working. if you used iot for over a year and you changed something recently and it stopepd working its not tbs fauly15:43
myown76_what should I so?15:43
gnomefreakmyown76_: you need to start with clean profile15:43
gnomefreakmyown76_: try not to mix profiles15:43
myown76_I've a backup of a week ago, can I use it?15:43
gnomefreakmyown76_: yes should be fine unless you uninstalled and reinstalled tb15:44
myown76_so i have to lost all my emails?15:44
gnomefreakthan i would suggest you change the name to match the new profile and add the files into the profile15:44
gnomefreakmyown76_: if you still have your profile they are still there15:44
myown76_fine... i try15:44
myown76_nothing to do...15:46
myown76_I try to create a new profile choosing folder in wich I have the backp15:46
myown76_it does'nt work15:46
gnomefreakfta: it looks like i fixed tb build15:47
gnomefreakmyown76_: thats not what i said to try. i said try with a new profile than move your mail and friends from old profile into new profile DO NOT CHANGE THE NAME OF DIR you just want files insode the fhskfhds.default not the whole profile15:48
myown76_gnomefreak, ok15:49
gnomefreakbrb looking for lunch while this builds15:49
myown76_gnomefreak, nothing to do...16:03
shirishguys anybody knows when we on the LTS will get ff3-RC1? I know xulrunner got updated sometime back.16:14
asacshirish: we will get it as soon as its _out_ _and_ as soon as we finished our QA on it ;)16:48
armin76shirish: is it even released?16:48
armin76asac: the ssh bug is fun :P16:49
shirishasac: thanx,  I thought it got released, lemme check back16:49
asacits a moderate risky update ... so we might get the update a bit later than upstream releases it16:49
asacshirish: it has been tagged ... but they finish their QA now16:49
shirisharmin76: I know the final is not, but I know the RC got through sometime back16:49
asacwe started to do the same and finish the initial packaging16:49
shirishah ok16:49
asacshirish: RC isnt ... maybe RC of the RC :)16:50
shirish;)16:50
armin76http://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.0rc116:50
asacyeah ... no its in hand of buildd and QA team upstream16:50
asacprobably takes a week if all works out well16:50
shirishok cool16:51
=== elmargol_ is now known as elmargol
armin76asac: you know if sm-1.1.10 is going to happen or?17:14
asacarmin76: i wouldn't wait for it ;) ... just try to get it using ffox tags :)17:17
asacor mozilla tags17:17
armin76hrm, looks like tb3a1 got tagged17:20
Jazzvagnomefre1k: If you still have problems with firegpg, I'll be glad to help :)17:20
asacstill packaging it? or problems with the extension itself?17:25
asaclol17:26
asacfrom bug 19288817:26
asac"I've had a different bug... the back button stops working on ffox after17:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 192888 in pulseaudio "firefox crashes on flash contents when using libflashsupport" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19288817:26
asacthe flash plugin is installed.17:26
asac"17:26
asacanswer:17:26
asacPaul: If you have a different bug, please don't contribute to the noise17:26
asachere - file a seperate bug report for that problem.17:26
asac:)17:26
[reed]I'm pretty furious at Debian17:27
[reed]grr for modifying packages for no reason17:27
armin76[reed]: don't like the openssh bug? :P17:27
[reed]3 of my 6 ssh keys are affected!17:27
[reed]:/17:28
armin76bumb!17:28
Jazzvaasac: dunno if gnomefre1k is done... I noticed in the morning that he mentioned something last night, but I was in the hurry, so I didn't respond.17:28
armin76haha, gentoo is not affected, yay :P17:28
armin76http://www.xkcd.com/221/ <- debian, lolz17:34
Jazzva"Hey, something's wrong with your random() function... all I get is '1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 ...'"17:36
Jazzva"Seems pretty random to me..."17:36
Jazzva:)17:36
gnomefre1kJazzva: it builds the .deb you install the deb and you get nothing but i will look at it later if i get time. i pushed branch but it was empty so next spare few minutes i get ill work on that so you have a starting place :)17:37
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
JazzvaCheck if it installs in the proper place... Try supplying moz ID in debian/rules... Though, I think it was the problem when it didn't build at all.17:39
asacif its not detected at all its most likely that the install directory name doesn't match the extension id.17:40
asacor the min/max version dont match our firefox17:40
gnomefreaklet me see if branch is ok to grab17:42
gnomefreakwithout MOZ id enabled it fails to build with it enabled but leaving the xxxxxx.xxxxx the same it builds installs and nothing there17:44
gnomefreakwhy the fuck is my branch only contain .bzr17:44
Jazzvagnomefreak: What do you mean by "leaving the xxxx.xx"?17:44
gnomefreakJazzva: in the rules file17:44
Jazzvagnomefreak: Yep... Did you substitute it with moz id from install.rdf?17:45
gnomefreakMOZ_XPI_EMID := {xxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx}17:45
gnomefreakno but i can :)17:45
JazzvaOk :)... That should be the source of this problem :).17:46
gnomefreaki think you are right :)17:47
JazzvaSo, it installs? Great :)...17:47
gnomefreaknot sure yet17:47
gnomefreakits building so is tb3 and dpkg is running it might be a minute17:48
gnomefreakhot damn17:49
gnomefreakwell it says one new addon has been installed17:49
JazzvaFireGPG? :)17:50
gnomefreakyes but its not there17:50
gnomefreakno menus like it should have and not in addons dialog17:50
JazzvaHmm... Have you supplied the right moz id?17:51
gnomefreakyes17:52
JazzvaIs it FF3 compatible?17:52
JazzvamaxVersion in install.rdf and stuff..17:53
gnomefreakoh yeah my bzr is fucked up17:53
gnomefreakJazzva: yep17:53
gnomefreaki was running it on ff3.0b5 and max is 3.017:53
JazzvaYeah, even if it wasn't and installed correctly, it should be visible in add-ons17:54
gnomefreakdamnit let me try to work on branching it17:54
gnomefreakJazzva: .xpi works great .deb doesnt :(17:54
[reed]ugh17:54
Jazzvagnomefreak: Push it to the bzr :)... I'll take a look.17:54
gnomefreakJazzva: trying17:55
gnomefreaki have bzr issues17:55
gnomefreakit loves crashing17:55
Jazzvaheh...17:56
gnomefreaktrying to push again18:00
gnomefreakhere we go with the fucking i dont hav ea ssh key and i fucking do18:01
asacgnomefreak: maybe affected ssh keys were disabled in launchapd?18:02
gnomefreakasac: no me an d#bzr got it working last night and im looking to see how18:02
gnomefreakeverything is in there lets check LP18:03
gnomefreakmaybe because of the --no-plugins18:03
gnomefreakummmmmmm wtf is going on18:03
[reed]grr18:04
[reed]debian screwed up18:04
[reed]the packages are still wrong!18:04
Jazzvagnomefreak: Stupid suggestion... you did "bzr add ."?18:04
gnomefreakwhy was it removed18:04
gnomefreakJazzva: yes18:04
[reed]This was the brokenness they added back in 2006:18:04
[reed]http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-openssl/openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c?rev=141&view=diff&r1=141&r2=140&p1=openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c&p2=/openssl/trunk/rand/md_rand.c18:04
gnomefreakmy ssh key was removed from LP why?18:05
[reed]This was the fix 5 days ago:18:05
[reed]http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-openssl/openssl/trunk/crypto/rand/md_rand.c?rev=300&view=diff&r1=300&r2=299&p1=openssl/trunk/crypto/rand/md_rand.c&p2=/openssl/trunk/crypto/rand/md_rand.c18:05
[reed]I see a problem!18:05
gnomefreakgood new tb3 a2 is built18:05
[reed]asac: who's ubuntu's security people? pretty sure these packages are wrong18:06
gnomefreakJazzva: said it created one lset see if it has debian there18:06
gnomefreakJazzva: have to wait for scan18:07
gnomefreakasac: you make me wonder on how you knew to check that?18:07
gnomefreakit was there last night18:07
asac[reed]: keescook and jdstrand in -devel ... maybe cjwatson, but not sure his role in this update18:07
asac[reed]: i think topic is still ssh on -devel ... so maybe jump into that discussion ;)18:09
gnomefreakstill jsut the .bzr dir damn18:15
gnomefreakok key is fixed18:22
gnomefreakremoving reasons for crash18:28
gnomefreakstarting over since its not letting me push right18:29
JazzvaI'll be back in an hour, hour and a half...18:38
gnomefreakill be back later i think i got bzr fixed and ill start over to make sure everything is right18:39
gnomefreakwont take me long when i get around to starting18:39
gnomefreakbe back later alot of work still from me being gone18:39
mconnorasac: can you clarify what you're planning on doing to make a "free" firefox package?18:44
asacmconnor: i am not planning anything.18:45
* gnomefreak almost cried18:45
mconnorasac: well, your comments in the bug were confusing :)18:46
* gnomefreak grabs drinks sits backa nd watches this18:46
asacmconnor: huh? ah ... right. well, i received multiple requests by derivates. so i comment was more about if anyone really wants something he should join this channel ;)18:47
mconnorhehe18:47
mconnorasac: if they mod browser/branding/unofficial to say something other than Gran Paradiso, they're probably a-ok18:48
mconnorsince that doesn't use the exploding artwork (its what we use for alphas)18:48
mconnorI mean, they can call it GP too18:49
mconnorbut that's kinda confusing :)18:49
asacmconnor: right. but it requires discussion and work - maybe our package can help them in some way. anyway, my idea on this is: as long as nobody cares about this enough to actually work on it, this is a non-issue for me. Thus, the comment18:51
ftahi18:59
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[reed]asac / fta: mozilla bug 43337119:02
ubottuMozilla bug 433371 in Extension/Theme Manager "Ubuntu 8.04's firefox install breaks 3.0pre's addons" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43337119:02
fta12:05 < vlad> Source File:19:04
fta              file:///home/vladimir/firefox/components/nsExtensionManager.js19:04
ftait's not ours19:04
fta[reed], ^^19:04
[reed]yes, it's a Mozilla bug, but it affects only Ubuntu19:05
ftaoh19:06
[reed]because of ubufox19:06
fta(i'm not using ubufox, i don't like its default prefs)19:06
mconnorhmm19:12
mconnorasac: I might ask you to take that fix downstream if we don't do an RC219:12
mconnorand we'll sneak it into 3.0.119:12
ftafine for me19:16
asacmconnor: I can add that patch ... sure. but if i understand correctly, that change doesn't really cure us - as we are not affected in the first place19:16
gnomefreakfta: tb3 a2 builds fine i havent isntalled it yet but builds :)19:17
asacmconnor: its happens when the user tries to use his ubuntu profile with upstream builds19:18
ftagnomefreak, i've launched a big update of my ppa19:20
gnomefreakwhat do you mean? you pushed new packages for alot/everything or you are redoing your PPA19:20
ftai jsut mean it's not needed to do those snapshot upgrades manually, it's fully automatized on my side.19:21
gnomefreakfta: ah19:22
* gnomefreak working on bzr issues atm19:22
gnomefreaki finally got branches pushed but i have source files in the .ubuntu branch :(19:22
gnomefreakjames_w: oops didnt see you here19:26
james_whi gnomefreak19:26
james_wgnomefreak> when upstream changes we would rather not start with old upstream sources19:26
james_wcan you explain what you mean by that?19:26
gnomefreakasac: shoudl we keep extension source files and ubuntu files in same branch?19:27
james_wsorry, my dinner is ready, I'll be back shortly.19:28
gnomefreakjames_w: upstream updates thier code we grab the full changed code why use old code as well. example i grab bleh bleh bleh.ubuntu (it has source files as well) than i have old source files that needs to be merged with new ones19:28
gnomefreakjames_w: ok19:28
asacgnomefreak: do as in the tutorial: .upstream branch - unmodified upstream sources ... .ubuntu branch - branch based on .upstream + debian/ directory and eventual changes19:31
gnomefreakasac: yes i understand i screwed up one command and ended up with source+ubuntu together on the .ubuntu push and james_w thought that was a better idea19:31
mconnorasac: oh, hrm19:33
mconnorasac: I may have misread!19:33
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asacgnomefreak: the .ubuntu branch as upstream + debian files. but we need a .upstream branch too19:39
gnomefreakasac: i have upstream branch and fixing ubuntu branch atm19:41
james_wgnomefreak: yeah, but the merge will be trivial if you haven't modified upstream files in .ubuntu19:41
james_wdo you use a patch system in mozillateam?19:42
gnomefreaknot for extensions19:42
gnomefreakthey are too simple IMHO19:42
* gnomefreak willing to be it has something to do with install.rdf19:43
gnomefreaks/be/bet19:43
james_wyeah, so if anything is modified outside of debian/ in the .ubuntu branch then you get the full power of bzr when merging, which is an advantage in my opinion.19:44
asacjames_w: no we don't want to use a patch system if possible19:44
asacfor extensions19:44
asacthe changes should be simple enough to cope with19:44
james_whi asac19:45
james_wsure, that makes sense.19:45
james_wI would recommend having .ubuntu have the upstream sources as you suggest, but the alternative would be possible of course.19:46
asacjames_w: you worked a bit with loom right?19:47
james_wasac: a little, yes.19:47
asac(or whatever its called. the thing where you can maintain patches in topic branches ;))19:47
asacjames_w: is this suitable for distributed maintenance?19:48
asaci guess if they are rebased frequently its not that nice to share them19:48
james_wlooms aren't rebased, so that's not a problem.19:49
james_wit's not mature enough yet, but it is something to consider in a few months when it is.19:49
gnomefreakoh well it still has upstream in it fuck it its good enough IMHO just need to figure out why installing it fails to add it19:49
james_walso, we would need to hook it in to the package build process some how, which I don't think has been looked at yet, but should be straightforward.19:50
gnomefreakasac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.upstream  are the 2 branches19:50
armin76interesting19:50
armin76when built with xulrunner, the default prefs are located on $mozilladir/defaults/preferences, but without it they're on $mozilladir/defaults/pref19:51
armin76yay19:51
ftayes19:52
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gnomefreakfta: ff rc1 keeps telling me to restart it but restarting it doesnt change that it tells you to restart, this is why i had to restart Ubuntu im just seeing it again with the extension work19:57
ftahm, what is the reason ? lang-packs ?19:57
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gnomefreakme no no reason for lang packs to interfer19:59
gnomefreakim gonna guess and say its ubufox19:59
gnomefreaklets see if disabling it helps19:59
gnomefreaknope19:59
gnomefreaki guess im gonna reboot20:00
armin76fta: and why? :)20:00
armin76fta: ah, i see it...weird20:03
gnomefreaknope rebooting didnt help either still saying to restart firefox20:08
gnomefreakthis tells me its a bad bug20:08
asacany hint how to tell gpg --clearsign to use a certain key-ID?20:16
gnomefreakasac: put key before the file?20:17
gnomefreakgpg keyid --clearsign or gpg --clearsign keyid?20:17
gnomefreakbtw nice page http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b5/whatsnew/20:18
gnomefreakthat loads on official b5 firefox20:19
* gnomefreak wonders if its not the addons dialog that is borked20:20
gnomefreakasac: uploading screenshot of this restart bullshit20:22
gnomefreakasac: fta http://www.flickr.com/photos/26378196@N05/2490466870/20:22
gnomefreakthis is now with b5 firefox and xul20:22
ftagnomefreak, look for what is requesting the restart (click each addon)20:28
asacok it was --local-user20:28
asaci glanced at that several times, but the doc is just incomprehensible ;)20:28
gnomefreakfta: its better gmail 2 that needs the restart but reason is because im trying to uninstall it20:30
gnomefreakhow do you remove an extensiion without that dialog?20:31
gnomefreakill be back dpkg needs me to reboot20:33
gnomefreakfuck i even removed it from ~/.mozilla/firefox/extensions20:45
gnomefreakand its still not fucking gone20:45
* gnomefreak can only wonder if this is why firegpg wont install20:46
asacgnomefreak: remove it from extensions/ dir in profile + remove all files called extensions.* in profile20:49
asacthen start20:49
asacthat should do the trick and recreate your extensions cache20:49
gnomefreakah20:49
gnomefreakthanks20:49
gnomefreakasac: that did it thanks20:51
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gnomefreakwell the extension is installed ill look at it more tomorrow. or if i come back maybe than20:53
gnomefreakasac: daniel asked you to look at bug 22972021:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229720 in kazehakase "Please sync kazehakase 0.5.4-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22972021:11
gnomefreakok done with email. that bug you assigned me is marked as dup :) later everyone21:13
asacgnomefreak: can you dig up that patch?21:13
asacok21:13
gnomefreakwhat patch is it? i didnt even look21:14
gnomefreakmost likely i dont have it but ill look21:14
gnomefreakwould b enice if the bug said aanything about removing the patch21:16
gnomefreakasac: ok i have it21:17
gnomefreakasac: patch to review http://pastebin.mozilla.org/43046321:18
asacgnomefreak: thats the one dropeed?21:19
gnomefreakasac: imho i wouldnt drop it but i havent looked at upstream to see if they applied patch upstream21:19
gnomefreakasac: thats the name of it21:19
gnomefreakfrom daniels comment21:20
gnomefreakits the only patch kazehakase has21:20
ftaso it's still 1.8 based ? :(21:20
gnomefreakfta: dont know i think so21:20
gnomefreakfta: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kazehakase/+bug/22972021:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 229720 in kazehakase "Please sync kazehakase 0.5.4-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New]21:21
gnomefreakthats the bug we are talking about21:21
asacfta: is that your patch ^^ ?21:21
gnomefreakif it is where is his changelog entry21:22
gnomefreakthis looks like a sloppy merge imo21:22
asacgnomefreak: i think its fta's patch ... he can probably best comment on what its purpose was and if that purpose is still valid21:22
gnomefreakfrom the changelog fta never added the patch21:23
gnomefreakbig skip from .5.3-1 to 0.5.4-121:24
gnomefreakasac: i dont think he meant to drop it i think that the merge is sloppy and he left parts out including that patch21:24
gnomefreakbecause he didnt add it21:24
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11931/21:26
ftaso it's mine21:27
ftaiirc, it ftbfsed without it21:27
asacok ... thanks21:27
ftabut if it's fine without it now, feel free to drop it21:28
asacthats what i said ;)21:28
asac(now)21:29
ftahmm, lp dropped my ssh key21:30
gnomefreakfta: did to everyone21:31
gnomefreakfor the most part21:31
gnomefreakfta: in your email there is instrcutions21:31
ftaam i supposed to trust random links like http://linkpot.net/comfort/ ?21:32
ftano offense, i don't even want to click on something i don't know pretending to teach me how to generate a key21:33
gnomefreaki got ubuntu.com links21:33
asacfta: its basically, get the latest packages, then recreate your sshkey ;)21:34
asacand paste it to launchpad again21:34
gnomefreakfta: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-221:34
ftai've seen those advisories before, i'm well connected into security21:35
gnomefreakall the ssh packages are installable atm so auto regen wont work21:35
ftahow come i'm not affected by Mozilla Bug 433371 ?21:38
ubottuMozilla bug 433371 in Extension/Theme Manager "Ubuntu 8.04's firefox install breaks 3.0pre's addons" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43337121:38
asacfta: because you are using our package ;)21:38
ftai'm often tracking regressions using minefield21:38
ftathrough minefield-packager.mk21:39
asacthat patch isn't really for us ... it needs to be fixed upstream21:39
ftaeven last week, i've tracked regression in rikaichan that way21:39
ftai know our builds are not affected but debs produced by my minefield-packager.mk should21:40
gnomefreakim not seeing it in b5 either. just that one piece of shit extension21:41
ftavlc plugin is making ff3 rc1 crash21:46
asacyeah21:46
asacrespin?21:47
asacdoes it still build?21:47
ftathe rc1 i've made yesterday (ie without your patches from today.. still building here)21:48
asacdoes vlc work on b5?21:50
asaci remember some complains that it crashes in bugs21:51
ftamy isp has a webtv site calling explicitly the vlc plugin21:51
asachmm  bug Bug 230087 is a nice one21:55
asacreproducible here21:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 230087 in firefox "firefox3 crashes when viewing big PNG files" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23008721:55
asaci tried the libpng.org image21:55
ftaseems it's not vlc after all, but flash21:58
ftahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11936/21:58
asacbut triggered by vlc? sure?22:00
ftano, just vlc and flash on the same page22:00
ftacrashed 10 out of 10 times22:02
asachmm22:09
jimmy_asac: u got my email on the XDG patch?23:17
asacjimmy_: not yet. when send?23:17
jimmy_like last week23:18
jimmy_asac: let me check23:18
jimmy_last Wed23:18
jimmy_i sent it to asac@canonical.com23:19
JazzvaWhat do we do with extension merges from debian? Merge them? Or just prepare a new upload with new upstram version?23:19
Jazzva*upstream23:19
jimmy_asac: I’ve uploaded to patches for the XDG and urlbar direction on moblin.  I was going to leave the XDG hack inside old place, but I had to into uriloader as I can’t look up the environment variables used in XDG in javascript, so I had to do it in cpp. I also added a new property for the autocomplete popup result to switch the direction of the urlbar results if defined.  See the 2...23:21
jimmy_...commits below and let me know if you can integrate these into the xulrunner, thanks.23:21
jimmy_ 23:21
jimmy_http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=commitdiff;h=da8b14142a2611ad4ea8e0ac2ee3891e69084cb023:21
jimmy_ 23:21
jimmy_http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-browser.git;a=commitdiff;h=75c2117ddaff1b9b62cba42677b68507f459ebaa23:21
asacjimmy_: environment variables?23:24
asacjimmy_: i remember that you send me a patch, and i commented on it23:25
asaci never got anything else23:25
asacjimmy_: that xdg logic is already implemented23:26
asacyou can use the standard directory provider to retrive the proper locations23:26
jimmy_asac: u talking about the xdg_user_dir_lookup () function?23:28
jimmy_asac: it is not exposed externally and therefore I just copied it over23:29
asachttp://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpcom/io/nsDirectoryServiceDefs.h#18923:29
asacabout that ... thats what i posted when we first talked about it iirc23:29
asacyou can use that constant to lookup directories in the directoryprovider23:30
asacin javascript like: Components.classes["@mozilla.org/file/directory_service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIProperties).get("ProfD", Components.interfaces.nsIFile);23:32
jimmy_asac: how does directoryprovider work?23:32
asaclike above ;)23:32
asacthere should be plenty examples in the mozilla/ tree ... you can search for some of the keys23:33
asaclike when accessing the profile directory there are examples like. find -name \*.js | xargs grep ProfD23:33
asacif you use the xdg key all should be fine23:34
asacbut test if that key exists as its just unix23:34
asacjimmy_: javascript above ... for cpp examples try find -name \*.cpp | xargs grep USER_PROFILE_23:35
alperyilmazi'm using Ubuntu8.04, I just experienced a crash in system and when I turn the machine on, both Firefox and Thunderbird acted like they're just installed.. Firefox is fine now.. but Thunderbird cannot show my accounts.. which file do i need to fix?23:36
alperyilmazprofiles.ini contains the correct folder address for default profile23:37
asacalperyilmaz: sounds bad. did you do a thorough disc check?23:37
asacalperyilmaz: are those more or less fresh profiles or really old ones?23:38
jimmy_asac: ok, so do you think I should keep the code in uriloader/exthandler/nsExternalHelperAppService.cpp? or in toolkit/mozapps/downloads/src/nsHelperAppDlg.js.in?23:38
alperyilmazi did one more restart to see if fsck will start automatically, but it didn't23:38
alperyilmazasac: fresh profiles..23:38
alperyilmazthe ones i'm using daily23:38
asacjimmy_: like i said, i think the more high level place is more appropriate for this kind of logic.23:39
alperyilmazi had 3 email accounts and one newsgroup setup23:39
alperyilmazbut now thunderbird is asking to create new profile..23:39
asacjimmy_: so the .js file ... the downloaddir logic is already in ... its just a matter of special casing the mime-type case23:39
alperyilmaznew account.. sorry23:39
asacalperyilmaz: maybe your crashed profile is locked?23:40
jimmy_asac: ok, what about the urlbar direction patch?23:40
alperyilmazwhat is the name of the lock file..23:41
asacah i just wanted to ask what the other is about23:41
asaclet me look23:41
asacjimmy_: do we really need to change the .idl?23:43
jimmy_asac: isn't it where the actual attribute is defined?23:45
alperyilmazi have found .parentlock file, but it's 0 bytes23:46
asacjimmy_: you could add a property to the binding itself in .xml file23:48
Jazzvaalperyilmaz: In your profile?23:48
alperyilmazyes23:48
asacjimmy_: that would be less intrusive and less likely to cause regressions somewhere23:48
alperyilmazunder xxxxxxx.default folder23:48
JazzvaI'm not sure about mozilla lock files, but there's no need for them to contain anything. try removing it and see if it helps :)23:49
JazzvaI suppose ff/tb just checks if there is a file, and if there is, then someone else is using the profile23:49
asacalperyilmaz: try find $HOME/.mozilla |  grep lock23:49
asacaeh23:49
asacsorry23:49
asacalperyilmaz: try find $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird |  grep lock23:49
alperyilmazjazzva: i removed it but didn't help..23:50
alperyilmazasac: doing it now23:50
asacjimmy_: you could then use <autocomplete .... reverse-popup-direction="true" > ... in .xul23:51
asacor something like that23:51
asacwould that work?23:51
alperyilmazasac: the .parentlock file is there (although i just removed it)23:51
jimmy_asac: i am not sure, i never tried that route, i am not so good in xul at all23:52
jimmy_asac: is it easy for you to add in that property?23:53
asacjimmy_: ./toolkit/content/widgets/autocomplete.xml search for property23:53
asacthats how you add properties ... quite straight forward i think23:53
asaclike for property name="textValue" onget="return this.value;">23:55
asacif you don't want to use it from cpp you don't need to add idl attribute23:55
jimmy_asac: ok, let me take a look23:56
asacjimmy_: try something else. you can just use this.getAttribute(...) in the current autocomplete.xml23:56
asacinstead of if(aInput....)23:57
asacmaybe you can get the propery without even adding a real property23:57

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